From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 00:09:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3327D1065679 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 00:09:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thoellri@adobe.com) Received: from exprod6og106.obsmtp.com (exprod6og106.obsmtp.com [64.18.1.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C748FC1D for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 00:09:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thoellri@adobe.com) Received: from source ([192.150.11.134]) by exprod6ob106.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:09:17 PDT Received: from inner-relay-3.eur.adobe.com ([192.150.8.236]) by outbound-smtp-1.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id m58061G3015237 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 17:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apacmail.pac.adobe.com (apacmail.pac.adobe.com [130.248.36.99]) by inner-relay-3.eur.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m5809DqJ028665 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 17:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from namail2.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.192.64]) by apacmail.pac.adobe.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:09:13 +0900 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 17:09:08 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Flashplugin Thread-Index: AcjI8hNtG+paB7gcTui+7GTHT7pchQABN1FA References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net><11167f520806071333r7d51192at3bdcc5e63cb6766@mail.gmail.com><20080608000350.00006173@westmark> From: "Tobias Hoellrich" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2008 00:09:13.0100 (UTC) FILETIME=[E1D15CC0:01C8C8FB] Subject: RE: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 00:09:18 -0000 [Disclaimer: I work for Adobe Systems. I have nothing to do with the Flash Player. I'm a grunt who works on other stuff. This is my personal opinion as a long-time FreeBSD user and I'm not making any statements for Adobe.] > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jona Joachim > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 4:58 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Flashplugin >=20 > Flash is a big pain IMO. > The Flash question has been asked *a lot* of times on this list. > The answer usually boils down to "use www/nspluginwrapper" or "use > linux-firefox". Both "solutions" are far from optimal. > My solution is to simply ignore Flash content. It makes your=20 > "online experience" > much more enjoyable. This is my personal choice of course. I'm afraid that's the age-old question of demand. If there was enough demand out there, I'm sure that any software manufacturer would consider FreeBSD a platform that needs to be supported.=20 Providing support for the Flash Player on FreeBSD is not a one-shot thing. You don't have some summer intern create a port of the current version of the player, release it and then be done with it. If a platform is officially supported it means dedication of a lot of resources: engineering and especially testing. Once a platform is adopted it needs to be rev'ed whenever the other platforms are updated, otherwise you end up again in a situation where a certain application that requires new Flash Player features does not work for you. This all means time and money. Adobe as any other public company has to justify its actions to its shareholders. If anybody scrutinizes the books and sees a substantial amount of engineering and QA resources being dedicated to a platform that has very little desktop market penetration and because of that some other important high-reach features were dropped, I'm sure that public company would have to answer some questions about it.=20 Since the last discussion I actually contacted the Flash Player team and asked what it would take to get an official port for Flash Player on FreeBSD. I was asked to provide numbers that would indicate how many *desktop* FreeBSD systems are out there and how many of them are used on a *regular* basis. So, if anybody on this list can provide those answers, I'd be more than happy to do my part and relay the answers back to those people who can actually influence decisions in this area. Again, I'm not speaking for Adobe, I'm just offering to help as much as I can as a happy FreeBSD user (well, if it wasn't for http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D123735 on 8.0-CURRENT).=20 > I think it is rather reducing when you have to beg unkind=20 > vendors to eventually > consider that you exist. > I don't think proprietary binary formats have their place on=20 > the web. The WWW is > an information exchange platform, why would you want to=20 > diffuse information > around the globe when you know that a lot of people will not=20 > be able to decipher > it? It's a bit arrogant I think. That's simply wrong. The Flash format byte-code is *not* proprietary. If you want to, you can go ahead and create your own Flash Player. The specifications for the format are freely available at: http://www.adobe.com/openscreenproject/developers/ And Gnash (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/), which was started before the spec was available, will certainly benefit from this.=20 And to address a previous message: if your bank requires you to use the Flash Player to make a transaction, then you will need to get in touch with your bank and not blame it on the non-existence of the Flash Player on your platform. A disabled person with a text-only browser or a screen-reader will certainly have the same issues.=20 My offer stands: if anybody can provide the numbers above, I'm going to forward them to the right people and work things from my end.=20 Don't beat me up, I'm for the support - even if I'm not using FreeBSD as a desktop OS.=20 Thanks and happy weekend - Tobias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 17:45:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD0D1065672 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 17:45:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234CA8FC0A for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 17:45:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so397672ana.13 for ; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 10:45:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=4563F1pstus2mpP1sXzmdWKLCNNqP5PXslJIFAggTYA=; b=iKxfTH+UDC6eJaljNWwfFGdNwFQkHcrt6JtEPERsqgAlTNobgHbwfQQ4vDihPwVHRs XU5Jg4kHIb4H+qEC8UsQCWdy9JuIg/I1BeGse0+h7fO7Nihc8kS7iodjgaGg4qT54wRq vL/RgSHmDzU0bshmas5hIxHZHISLeL8odgSms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Si0+sL6yml7pI6Dd+SXIyAV3uKU3eWUgzmrZJ0NdmhHxdIiRNNRj1Q9M+Fe4kYzFfn 27zYCXCduSwWEXmH6OGLQkXKGvsquR6jG/p/OL1Omuj6bjnbM/JGCjwURcqr7ufWJx3y vc8vxhdMzi33EtTwzmKuklowQtY+61L+33dPA= Received: by 10.100.109.13 with SMTP id h13mr585924anc.55.1212859246836; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 10:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.202.14 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 10:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 12:20:46 -0500 From: luizbcampos To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 00:44:13 +0000 Cc: Subject: password X GDM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:45:37 -0000 After I had installed FreeBSD-7.0-R and enabled "gdm" in /etc/rc.conf, the system freezes when I try to enter gnome interface through GDM. When I type my blank password, the script fails to go on From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 00:59:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD5B1065671 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 00:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitche@kitchetech.com) Received: from rt06.vds2000.com (s6.n225.vds2000.com [64.6.225.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD238FC1C for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 00:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitche@kitchetech.com) Received: from pool-72-65-6-48.bflony.east.verizon.net ([72.65.6.48]:53681 helo=localhost) by rt06.vds2000.com with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K5976-0001Z6-DU; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:50:28 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 20:59:17 -0400 From: Matthew Donovan To: luizbcampos Message-ID: <20080608005917.GA73984@njord.Belkin> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rt06.vds2000.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kitchetech.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: password X GDM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 00:59:27 -0000 --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 12:20:46PM -0500, luizbcampos wrote: > After I had installed FreeBSD-7.0-R and enabled "gdm" in > /etc/rc.conf, the system freezes when I try to enter gnome interface > through GDM. When I type my blank password, the script fails to go on I believe gdm/kdm/xdm hates blank passwords just as the system hates it=20 =20 --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhLLuUACgkQCyI5DJQdxQ/tRACcC2mhqBXYmlItkHId193YmGM7 ohUAoIA+y47UsbPMmwV89nN72q72X9QB =t/0W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 02:21:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D86D1065676 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 02:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8068FC0C for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 02:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m582GYui006842; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:16:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m582GYTd006841; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:16:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:16:34 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Dick Hoogendijk Message-ID: <20080608021633.GA6799@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> <11167f520806071333r7d51192at3bdcc5e63cb6766@mail.gmail.com> <20080608000350.00006173@westmark> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080608000350.00006173@westmark> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 02:21:30 -0000 On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 12:03:50AM +0200, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:33:26 -0500 > "Sam Fourman Jr." wrote: > > > use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9 > > plugin > > People choosing FreeBSD shouldn't be "forced" to run windowish > solution. The OS is not supported. That's a major problem in these > modern times, although lots of fbsd people tend to say it is not. > That's not everyday's live however. FreeBSD does not make the web. OK. So get busy anc contribute a flash9 plugin that works in FreeBSD. See if you can get the necessary information out of Adobe. ////jerry > > -- > Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D > ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 02:30:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9432C106566C for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 02:30:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek.graham@att.net) Received: from smtp108.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp108.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62F788FC12 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 02:30:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek.graham@att.net) Received: (qmail 41186 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2008 02:30:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mulder) (derek.graham@att.net@68.75.174.209 with plain) by smtp108.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jun 2008 02:30:58 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: brrhwvUVM1kWUiP5Zf70KxW87yl1Zl7bnqH_3kMpCCuP1t8Y6xY8D529XAD5tStdLPyKN_fRqNJsJB8nC9.4E9sLPLmUIhSU3lvMkU2UcU0gzbclex1uzLOx_EzGhCVkdEPVBiK7pO41_A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 From: Derek Graham Organization: D and M Computers, Inc. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 21:30:37 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> <200806071547.56717.derek.graham@att.net> <200806080946.44026.agh@tpg.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200806080946.44026.agh@tpg.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806072130.37565.derek.graham@att.net> Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 02:30:59 -0000 on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Alastair Hogge Alastair Hogge wrote: > On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:47:56 Derek Graham wrote: > > on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Sam Fourman Jr. "Sam > > Fourman > > > > Jr." wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Derek Graham wrote: > > > > on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Sam Fourman Jr. "Sam > > > > Fourman > > > > > > > > Jr." wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Derek Graham > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hey all, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried using swfdec-plugin to do flash, but it doesnt seem > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > work > > > > > > > > > > too > > > > > > well at least with firefox. > > > > > > One ... I prefer being able to select what flash loads > > > > > > automaticly and Two ... I like to be able to see the flash video > > > > > > but all it does is freeze > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't seem to get linux-flashplugin7 anymore due to the > > > > > > restricted status. > > > > > > Flashplugin9 locks up also, which we all know already. I have > > > > > > heard > > > > > > > > gnash > > > > > > > > > > doesnt do much better... Anyone have a solution that works > > > > > > halfway? > > > > > > > > > > > > Derek > > > > > > > > > > use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows > > > > > Flash 9 plugin > > > > > > > > > > Sam Fourman Jr. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > yeah i got that installed but its a pain to run wine ver of firefox > > > > for flash > > > > stuff and native firefox for normal usage. Do you recommend using > > > > wine firefox for normal use? > > > > > > > > I don't know, not really I have never been able to get the fonts to > > > > look > > > > > > right in wine firefox > > > > > > Sam Fourman Jr. > > > > I was just going to ask you about that, it all looks like crud with the > > fonts not right, anyone know how to setup the fonts for wine? > > Search for winetricks, it's a shell script that can download and install > MS-Windows fonts(amoung other things) for you. > > Also PC-BSD has a PBI for installing MS-Windows fonts for wine, maybe check > that out? > > > Sincerely, > > Derek A. Graham > > -Alastair > > > President > > D and M Computers, Inc. > > Exceeding your expectations everyday! > > http://www.dandmcomputers.co.cc/ > > (847) 305-1954 ext 101 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" can you install PBI's on FreeBSD? thought they were only for PC-BSD Sincerely, Derek A. Graham President D and M Computers, Inc. Exceeding your expectations everyday! http://www.dandmcomputers.co.cc/ (847) 305-1954 ext 101 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 02:39:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D4A106564A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 02:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek.graham@att.net) Received: from smtp119.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com (smtp119.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.96.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E52258FC18 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 02:39:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek.graham@att.net) Received: (qmail 38779 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2008 02:39:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mulder) (derek.graham@att.net@68.75.174.209 with plain) by smtp119.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jun 2008 02:39:10 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: LePtlQEVM1nCS8v82F3lAgeYthxKqXA2OUHdBrnjGX9kL8kRpHDYz6f0FWugl91RBNNYKXzEZxT6.ywohUjgDaPT.SI2X38LhK.a9f4wIadfGNJ5L3moJW19jljeAfzOS1CP01w8PNZP0A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 From: Derek Graham Organization: D and M Computers, Inc. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 21:38:49 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> <20080608000350.00006173@westmark> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806072138.49698.derek.graham@att.net> Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 02:39:12 -0000 on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Jona Joachim Jona Joachim wrote: > On 2008-06-07, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > > On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:33:26 -0500 > > > > "Sam Fourman Jr." wrote: > >> use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9 > >> plugin > > > > People choosing FreeBSD shouldn't be "forced" to run windowish > > solution. The OS is not supported. That's a major problem in these > > modern times, although lots of fbsd people tend to say it is not. > > That's not everyday's live however. FreeBSD does not make the web. > > Flash is a big pain IMO. > The Flash question has been asked *a lot* of times on this list. > The answer usually boils down to "use www/nspluginwrapper" or "use > linux-firefox". Both "solutions" are far from optimal. > My solution is to simply ignore Flash content. It makes your "online > experience" much more enjoyable. This is my personal choice of course. > I think it is rather reducing when you have to beg unkind vendors to > eventually consider that you exist. > I don't think proprietary binary formats have their place on the web. The > WWW is an information exchange platform, why would you want to diffuse > information around the globe when you know that a lot of people will not be > able to decipher it? It's a bit arrogant I think. > > Jona Yeah I understand where you are going with that, but at the same time every interface is flash, java, or silverlight. Fortunately my current banking choice greendot doesnt use flash, but there are alot of web apps that require it to work and require using the latest version. There is where we need flash. We need these companies to realise that if majority of the websites on the planet use it, then they need to support every operating system with the means of accessing the web via a current maintained gui browser. Java, Flash, Silverlight and all applications that are used heavily in todays websites need to be made standardly ready and available to Windows, Macintosh, Unix(including linux and freebsd and all 'nix os) I do not want to have to use wine to get to a important secure login for a bank or similar site when I am running something better then windows My $0.02 Sincerely, Derek A. Graham President D and M Computers, Inc. Exceeding your expectations everyday! http://www.dandmcomputers.co.cc/ (847) 305-1954 ext 101 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 02:44:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC411065675 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 02:44:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek.graham@att.net) Received: from smtp116.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com (smtp116.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.96.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 70E108FC13 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 02:44:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek.graham@att.net) Received: (qmail 36229 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2008 02:44:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mulder) (derek.graham@att.net@68.75.174.209 with plain) by smtp116.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jun 2008 02:44:13 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: FTy8vIQVM1n2bvnr3dVec3ZoBBL6Ep63RLxgkKta7vMpS16zPgKT9dFys6ReyhWQVDo0rbb9WU3tww8r5zzTWXP6yGDaIBqDPQT9AiY42MDnf6oUicFUDWL_DityQBg7mPRzhNumPOvM_Q-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 From: Derek Graham Organization: D and M Computers, Inc. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 21:43:51 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806072143.52051.derek.graham@att.net> Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 02:44:14 -0000 on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Tobias Hoellrich "Tobias Hoellrich" wrote: > [Disclaimer: I work for Adobe Systems. I have nothing to do with the > Flash Player. I'm a grunt who works on other stuff. This is my personal > opinion as a long-time FreeBSD user and I'm not making any statements > for Adobe.] > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jona Joachim > > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 4:58 PM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Flashplugin > > > > Flash is a big pain IMO. > > The Flash question has been asked *a lot* of times on this list. > > The answer usually boils down to "use www/nspluginwrapper" or "use > > linux-firefox". Both "solutions" are far from optimal. > > My solution is to simply ignore Flash content. It makes your > > "online experience" > > much more enjoyable. This is my personal choice of course. > > I'm afraid that's the age-old question of demand. If there was enough > demand out there, I'm sure that any software manufacturer would consider > FreeBSD a platform that needs to be supported. > Providing support for the Flash Player on FreeBSD is not a one-shot > thing. You don't have some summer intern create a port of the current > version of the player, release it and then be done with it. If a > platform is officially supported it means dedication of a lot of > resources: engineering and especially testing. Once a platform is > adopted it needs to be rev'ed whenever the other platforms are updated, > otherwise you end up again in a situation where a certain application > that requires new Flash Player features does not work for you. This all > means time and money. Adobe as any other public company has to justify > its actions to its shareholders. If anybody scrutinizes the books and > sees a substantial amount of engineering and QA resources being > dedicated to a platform that has very little desktop market penetration > and because of that some other important high-reach features were > dropped, I'm sure that public company would have to answer some > questions about it. > > Since the last discussion I actually contacted the Flash Player team and > asked what it would take to get an official port for Flash Player on > FreeBSD. I was asked to provide numbers that would indicate how many > *desktop* FreeBSD systems are out there and how many of them are used on > a *regular* basis. So, if anybody on this list can provide those > answers, I'd be more than happy to do my part and relay the answers back > to those people who can actually influence decisions in this area. > Again, I'm not speaking for Adobe, I'm just offering to help as much as > I can as a happy FreeBSD user (well, if it wasn't for > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=123735 on 8.0-CURRENT). > > > I think it is rather reducing when you have to beg unkind > > vendors to eventually > > consider that you exist. > > I don't think proprietary binary formats have their place on > > the web. The WWW is > > an information exchange platform, why would you want to > > diffuse information > > around the globe when you know that a lot of people will not > > be able to decipher > > it? It's a bit arrogant I think. > > That's simply wrong. The Flash format byte-code is *not* proprietary. If > you want to, you can go ahead and create your own Flash Player. The > specifications for the format are freely available at: > http://www.adobe.com/openscreenproject/developers/ > > And Gnash (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/), which was started before > the spec was available, will certainly benefit from this. > > And to address a previous message: if your bank requires you to use the > Flash Player to make a transaction, then you will need to get in touch > with your bank and not blame it on the non-existence of the Flash Player > on your platform. A disabled person with a text-only browser or a > screen-reader will certainly have the same issues. > > My offer stands: if anybody can provide the numbers above, I'm going to > forward them to the right people and work things from my end. > > Don't beat me up, I'm for the support - even if I'm not using FreeBSD as > a desktop OS. > > Thanks and happy weekend - Tobias > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" FreeBSD is my one and only desktop, I run a small business and do not tend to like to switch back and forth from os's mainly cause i use sql-ledger and it is my main server to keep up with my bookkeeping. My wifes pc was using pc-bsd but lack of flash made her goto kubuntu Sincerely, Derek A. Graham President D and M Computers, Inc. Exceeding your expectations everyday! http://www.dandmcomputers.co.cc/ (847) 305-1954 ext 101 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 04:10:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282CE106567A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 04:10:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1060D8FC15 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 04:10:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F25A50A28 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 05:10:05 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kxEdRExtuswc for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 05:10:03 +0100 (BST) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DFC3B50A0A; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 05:10:02 +0100 (BST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20080608041002.DFC3B50A0A@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 05:10:02 +0100 (BST) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2008-05-18 - 2008-06-07 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:10:12 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 04:48:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2D61065675 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 04:48:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from camiloreyes82@yahoo.com) Received: from web63905.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web63905.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.97.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C139D8FC0C for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 04:48:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from camiloreyes82@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 51482 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jun 2008 04:48:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=EsgPZ4uoC86+qRNWAj3bvRPf4tpu2S2Xhhqce/HPqJd18XXsMYB8LjCKpnJUe22qQWOSewYQk/trgVzzodmU5XeaHTY0AE+x64VMF33ZmyZT4LsBdBBPhjuq5uw+Qo15HlrRsbG0QvYfbxsYmG2kkVKXN7wipide5ilTF2naVlk=; Received: from [98.201.109.92] by web63905.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:48:04 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 21:48:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Camilo Reyes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <590647.50656.qm@web63905.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:48:06 -0000 Well, there is a site that does BSD usage statistics (they recently=A0did= =A0a=0Apost on this list). I recommend people use their script to raise the= stats.=0Ahttp://www.bsdstats.org/=0A=A0Camilo=0A"Bono Vince Malum"=0A=0A= =0A> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 17:09:08 -0700=0A> From: "Tobias Hoellrich" =0A>= Subject: RE: Flashplugin=0A> To: =0A> Message-ID:=0A> =A0=A0=A0 =0A> Conte= nt-Type: text/plain;=A0=A0=A0 charset=3D"us-ascii"=0A> =0A> My offer stands= : if anybody can provide the numbers above, I'm going to=0A> forward them t= o the right people and work things from my end. =0A> =0A> Don't beat me up,= I'm for the support - even if I'm not using FreeBSD as=0A> a desktop OS. = =0A> =0A> Thanks and happy weekend - Tobias=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 05:09:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28181065678 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 05:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB588FC15 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 05:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5855YDo058003; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:05:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.5.5 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m5855YDo058003 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1212901535; bh=Gp2QVlqIqbRyQG Xh0wCdcBT4yHzVIkJbHLx5uwhR0pY=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<484B6897.8070508@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sun,=2 008=20Jun=202008=2006:05:27=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080503)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Tobias=20Hoellrich=20|CC:=20freebsd-qu estions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Flashplugin|References:=20<200 806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net><11167f520806071333r7d51192at3 bdcc5e63cb6766@mail.gmail.com><20080608000350.00006173@westmark>=09 =20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-V ersion:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp -sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A= 20boundary=3D"------------enig91D3698641112D64A9473392"; b=oF7Yee35 JBpW2i5LrK6jGBz3fJONLLBYl/INh7pbrRDuL0mWfW4LdyQEu+bNG1y+ESBoou5nsq2 MkumHEbsXIGUdxSSatuKUcp1BryZ9H+ES8kJx6EMamUMZZsg1otBH4LPKd0SW3DOeOV F7gCRSwsBvmbrXJZS79JxMfy0e0JA= Message-ID: <484B6897.8070508@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:05:27 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080503) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tobias Hoellrich References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net><11167f520806071333r7d51192at3bdcc5e63cb6766@mail.gmail.com><20080608000350.00006173@westmark> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig91D3698641112D64A9473392" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:05:35 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93, clamav-milter version 0.93 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 05:09:29 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig91D3698641112D64A9473392 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tobias Hoellrich wrote: > Since the last discussion I actually contacted the Flash Player team an= d > asked what it would take to get an official port for Flash Player on > FreeBSD. I was asked to provide numbers that would indicate how many > *desktop* FreeBSD systems are out there and how many of them are used o= n > a *regular* basis. So, if anybody on this list can provide those > answers, I'd be more than happy to do my part and relay the answers bac= k > to those people who can actually influence decisions in this area. > Again, I'm not speaking for Adobe, I'm just offering to help as much as= > I can as a happy FreeBSD user (well, if it wasn't for > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D123735 on 8.0-CURRENT).=20 Well, if you consider PC-BSD as FreeBSD -- which it is for programmatic purposes, then at least 15,000 users are prepared to voluntarily self-report themselves as such. PC-BSD by it's nature implies desktop usage. Note that PC-BSD invites users to register with BSD Stats at install time. Other BSD variants require the user to have heard about and then gone and installed the reporting software, so the uptake is a lower proportion of the user base. Regular usage is a hard one. BSD stats requires a monthly report from each server, so the figures they have don't include any significant amount of historical cruft. Reports are also generated when the system reboots, but as far as I know, the BSD Stats project hasn't analysed its data to extract any information about how often people reboot their systems. http://www.bsdstats.org/ Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig91D3698641112D64A9473392 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkhLaJ4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIy+WQCgitUmGoYjhYSR5jE9urlKryQ0 kqgAn0JAQcgIkDBVDgpCrKkji8elTgvm =etUu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig91D3698641112D64A9473392-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 05:10:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE04106564A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 05:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD738FC15 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 05:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5856pXZ058281; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:06:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.5.5 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m5856pXZ058281 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1212901612; bh=Wpcnzn32g847l5 rGbAivrDgMTQ5xaXJgv0QimHIG9BA=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<484B68EB.8040106@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sun,=2 008=20Jun=202008=2006:06:51=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080503)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Tobias=20Hoellrich=20|CC:=20freebsd-qu estions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Flashplugin|References:=20<200 806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net><11167f520806071333r7d51192at3 bdcc5e63cb6766@mail.gmail.com><20080608000350.00006173@westmark>=09 =20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-V ersion:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp -sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A= 20boundary=3D"------------enigF9DE87BBE9F90C3D0147256A"; b=1B6qlKos HpaBDretAkvADDVKLzyv/QGSUzUwdae/XB+YpATCaRNjP/1MFVBLF29yReDf3oCRFPk TmpE/tjuZUBrxIDAYhq+Uzgs9yV3mymAXRjHRx/2yC8YJ7LpqvyOrUU+iLOzSur1X+8 Jw4N+6tRICOqbGzONNRXqWt0qD9Jc= Message-ID: <484B68EB.8040106@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:06:51 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080503) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tobias Hoellrich References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net><11167f520806071333r7d51192at3bdcc5e63cb6766@mail.gmail.com><20080608000350.00006173@westmark> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF9DE87BBE9F90C3D0147256A" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:06:52 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93, clamav-milter version 0.93 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 05:10:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF9DE87BBE9F90C3D0147256A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tobias Hoellrich wrote: > Since the last discussion I actually contacted the Flash Player team an= d > asked what it would take to get an official port for Flash Player on > FreeBSD. I was asked to provide numbers that would indicate how many > *desktop* FreeBSD systems are out there and how many of them are used o= n > a *regular* basis. So, if anybody on this list can provide those > answers, I'd be more than happy to do my part and relay the answers bac= k > to those people who can actually influence decisions in this area. > Again, I'm not speaking for Adobe, I'm just offering to help as much as= > I can as a happy FreeBSD user (well, if it wasn't for > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D123735 on 8.0-CURRENT).=20 Well, if you consider PC-BSD as FreeBSD -- which it is for programmatic purposes, then at least 15,000 users are prepared to voluntarily self-report themselves as such. PC-BSD by it's nature implies desktop usage. Note that PC-BSD invites users to register with BSD Stats at install time. Other BSD variants require the user to have heard about and then gone and installed the reporting software, so the uptake is a lower proportion of the user base. Regular usage is a hard one. BSD stats requires a monthly report from each server, so the figures they have don't include any significant amount of historical cruft. Reports are also generated when the system reboots, but as far as I know, the BSD Stats project hasn't analysed its data to extract any information about how often people reboot their systems. http://www.bsdstats.org/ Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigF9DE87BBE9F90C3D0147256A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkhLaOsACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwacQCeOyPhArpCXMwytkXOhhlCT6mL fMwAnjRozo7nrJFeE9R3I08KA89KOEH0 =8hqs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF9DE87BBE9F90C3D0147256A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 05:12:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C40106567F for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 05:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01078FC13 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 05:12:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5858lcu058798; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:08:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.5.5 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m5858lcu058798 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1212901727; bh=8EB/+dEi9dWQvS Gq7IUDoMpjg956khZohHTKkBoa66A=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<484B695B.9030503@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sun,=2 008=20Jun=202008=2006:08:43=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080503)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Tobias=20Hoellrich=20|CC:=20freebsd-qu estions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Flashplugin|References:=20<200 806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net><11167f520806071333r7d51192at3 bdcc5e63cb6766@mail.gmail.com><20080608000350.00006173@westmark>=09 =20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-V ersion:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp -sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A= 20boundary=3D"------------enigD4FD6D0711B199535EF7DF1F"; b=KNUcSus/ kwtCBBC+E1lxmDUH+4gm+87Gm6iUY6bHbZGr1lhR+db1myjxGA+0mquxqjnjQFT2/fm v8QRvQRpyUuwmLdXSWt13ao0iY1EsPpQ0iHJ/JKYxeCTcH53K8hfbK1+B0k6cz7gSPg d1uF6ihx8dDF2zS1qyYw94kdNtx9o= Message-ID: <484B695B.9030503@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:08:43 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080503) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tobias Hoellrich References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net><11167f520806071333r7d51192at3bdcc5e63cb6766@mail.gmail.com><20080608000350.00006173@westmark> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD4FD6D0711B199535EF7DF1F" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:08:47 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93, clamav-milter version 0.93 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 05:12:40 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD4FD6D0711B199535EF7DF1F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tobias Hoellrich wrote: > Since the last discussion I actually contacted the Flash Player team an= d > asked what it would take to get an official port for Flash Player on > FreeBSD. I was asked to provide numbers that would indicate how many > *desktop* FreeBSD systems are out there and how many of them are used o= n > a *regular* basis. So, if anybody on this list can provide those > answers, I'd be more than happy to do my part and relay the answers bac= k > to those people who can actually influence decisions in this area. > Again, I'm not speaking for Adobe, I'm just offering to help as much as= > I can as a happy FreeBSD user (well, if it wasn't for > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D123735 on 8.0-CURRENT).=20 Well, if you consider PC-BSD as FreeBSD -- which it is for programmatic purposes, then at least 15,000 users are prepared to voluntarily self-report themselves as such. PC-BSD by it's nature implies desktop usage. Note that PC-BSD invites users to register with BSD Stats at install time. Other BSD variants require the user to have heard about and then gone and installed the reporting software, so the uptake is a lower proportion of the user base. Regular usage is a hard one. BSD stats requires a monthly report from each server, so the figures they have don't include any significant amount of historical cruft. Reports are also generated when the system reboots, but as far as I know, the BSD Stats project hasn't analysed its data to extract any information about how often people reboot their systems. http://www.bsdstats.org/ Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigD4FD6D0711B199535EF7DF1F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkhLaV4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyFqACdFW2CGpvOm/6fHjwWY22kolOd F24Anjc9TJHAxQfPWuSHM1KaPrldrk4S =9Ymv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD4FD6D0711B199535EF7DF1F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 06:02:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8798A1065672 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:02:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from netuno.levier.com.br (netuno.levier.com.br [201.47.3.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C788FC0A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:01:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from levier.com.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netuno.levier.com.br (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m57A11HX046289; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 03:01:58 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (levier.com.br) Received: from [201.3.78.72] (authenticated as lenzi) by levier.com.br (MessageWall 1.0.8) with SMTP; 8 Jun 2008 06:01:57 -0000 From: sergio lenzi To: Matthew Seaman , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <484B695B.9030503@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> <11167f520806071333r7d51192at3bdcc5e63cb6766@mail.gmail.com> <20080608000350.00006173@westmark> <484B695B.9030503@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:01:36 -0300 Message-Id: <1212904896.21888.10.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:02:00 -0000 Well... Here I am in a project of notebooks for schools machines with 13" 120gb of disk turion 64... All of them running FreeBSD 7.0 it is about 7000 notebooks in the first year... With a total of 35000 notebooks in 3 years... and counting... may be a total of 100,000 notebooks in 5 years... Because of special taxes applied in the notebooks, the user must use FreeBSD or Linux. If the user formats the computer and install other non open source OS, the user must pay the taxes difference to the project... a value of about US$200. and will not be able to access the university data. Well.. about the flashplugin... it is a problem... for sure... they work with flashplugin 7.... The wireless is a problem too, for that we choose intel or atheros chip... Tell the flashplugin team about... please Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 06:17:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 788BD1065677 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:17:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek.graham@att.net) Received: from smtp120.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com (smtp120.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.96.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3BBB18FC15 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:17:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek.graham@att.net) Received: (qmail 32780 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2008 06:17:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mulder) (derek.graham@att.net@68.75.174.209 with plain) by smtp120.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jun 2008 06:17:24 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ZPLdvCcVM1npSNthbOrKELw4YI8Q.l3FOCR519bsEohl9_KO5PUvwOjIHYc1EgA4tsXXIJibn6lYk5zBC0tbGTbT1w2xAWyhJllSrDDVw9YMXvr9RPMTQKN4M6At4fq05Mwm_dQWQGwtpQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 From: Derek Graham Organization: D and M Computers, Inc. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 01:17:02 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> <484B695B.9030503@infracaninophile.co.uk> <1212904896.21888.10.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1212904896.21888.10.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806080117.03053.derek.graham@att.net> Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:17:25 -0000 on Sunday 08 June 2008Sunday 08 June 2008 sergio lenzi sergio lenzi wrote: > Well... > > Here I am in a project of notebooks for schools > machines with 13" 120gb of disk turion 64... > All of them running FreeBSD 7.0 it is about 7000 notebooks > in the first year... > > With a total of 35000 notebooks in 3 years... and counting... > may be a total of 100,000 notebooks in 5 years... > > Because of special taxes applied in the notebooks, > the user must use FreeBSD or Linux. If the user formats > the computer and install other non open source OS, > the user must pay the taxes difference to the project... > a value of about US$200. and will not be able to access > the university data. > > Well.. about the flashplugin... it is a problem... for sure... > they work with flashplugin 7.... > > The wireless is a problem too, for that we choose intel or atheros > chip... > > Tell the flashplugin team about... please > > Sergio > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Adobe, There are some numbers, 7,000 now and 30,000 in 3 yrs from one school 14,692 pcbsd 6,320 reported freebsd about almost 30,000 bsd desktops reported, im sure there are alot of people who do not report their stats, but id imagine we got alot more then 30,000 bsd desktop users. Theyd probably use an intern to do most of the work, and we all know interns are unpaid, they earn knowledge and experience. Throw their butts on coding a BSD Flashplayer version. I am sure if you throw in a few pizzas everyday, some trashy sluts, and a lot of caffiene they could work them around the clock and have something working in a couple months. Motivate them with food, girls and hope :) Sincerely, Derek A. Graham President D and M Computers, Inc. Exceeding your expectations everyday! http://www.dandmcomputers.co.cc/ (847) 305-1954 ext 101 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 06:20:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6A0106567A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:20:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E6F8FC15 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:20:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so851123ywe.13 for ; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:20:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=nGyVUPWrFbcfXzlTKRwN2L7OK9ojoio0XNvKxkaQsNo=; b=NLXk7LPdzDESScI0uUj49mbslYu8cWiOylfsJYmvrT3VYjpjlAyu0ftLYPi0Xvf36T OiQcZidQ3Drn4UMhSNS60X9S73joZRrDk+N4vkwxPc+GTPaq7fhxFZcXLEpDxWuD3PSL njnoAGcLlRN2J4OKJjQZ0vtTbtHALv5Uc2MBA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ZdvMeHDu3OZm1k9DukmQY/z/S13FgyqLGHVsNl/2z/hIkIR4dP/XMH8wSj6/om3ojv lXH/iR8VnwQoRq0XLh2vNje3Ufs0imo/gnHjP6zJyfndB7ttALaL8dXD9CO0EO94+qu/ H7C5fcWXfQjqG53yZ3IUBvJyDBqpm9cwqnVgM= Received: by 10.150.12.3 with SMTP id 3mr3688717ybl.15.1212906025349; Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.219.9 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 23:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <991123400806072320h3e64b39vae2bc351b0a1fecf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:20:25 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: "Duane Hill" In-Reply-To: <20080607170645.3ac211e7@home.dubuque.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48499CCD.2010708@m2.seamanpaper.com> <991123400806062332r70a7b34co5c93ad14fdacb79f@mail.gmail.com> <484A8D73.8040803@yahoo.com> <20080607170645.3ac211e7@home.dubuque.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vmware timekeeping X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:20:26 -0000 On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Duane Hill wrote: > On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:30:27 -0400 > Peter Thoenen confabulated: > >> > I run FreeBSD 7.0 inside VMware Workstation-6.0.4 (ACE Edition) and >> > I don't have to setup anything. The time is the always same as the >> > host >> >> How long do you keep it up though Odhiambo and how intensive are you >> using your native OS? I have a similar setup and while it sync's on >> boot, I routinely lose 15 minutes a day (I keep it up 24x7). I think >> it is not so much a bug in VMware as opposed to the host OS running >> slower than it thinks (e.g. maybe a second of OS time is really >> 1.000001 seconds of real time adding up over long periods) if the >> native OS is under moderate to heavy use. > > I'm running FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE within Vmware v6.0.4 build 93057 with > the host OS being XP-Home-SP2. I also have two jails running within the > FreeBSD VM. > > I have within /boot/loader.conf: > kern.hz="50" Oh, this explains why I never has issues with time. I always have kern.hz="100" in loader.conf and I run ntpdate on startup. Sorry if I mislead others. -- EB White - "Genius is more often found in a cracked pot than in a whole one." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 07:20:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66532106567F for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 07:20:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18FA68FC13 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 07:20:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so854775ywe.13 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 00:20:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=wOTBfYWNY42dDpAEUCQdeQ7ZzISlEbUxbJ5NM/wY2BQ=; b=Z9wf23D18D/JU+NfLOcWBVNrwCnmcVWKPn3y7qaVGGw3QJcUUw/YDoi+3QqF6D3V5J iNIOPYTStiqn6x12zi4qYCxqpODSuq6m1qEng7x2LN9rslBM010F3TQ4fnc60nWPaetF RG1rmPL2c+30PG3Yzu1HeSDKDrgjlDeKrvyMQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=cEXWa1c+18KaKX8RPCOe8YqbBpZUCDyNYKWHrrR2TVJESw2U5YOC1m7FPMsgs7qNPs 19tMwsC4e06aSm0zCvBqQ0hXIkSHn38hEjYRE+Twg0zLKudNLZUknDnEG3ToHOoMIEDH Tu0KTUUzuYoxdU8kHLCVICEv7sCw3nUKyY4Gw= Received: by 10.150.52.2 with SMTP id z2mr3740985ybz.48.1212909636222; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 00:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 103-120-245-190.fibertel.com.ar ( [190.245.120.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm7917924ywp.3.2008.06.08.00.20.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Jun 2008 00:20:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 04:20:31 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> <20080608000350.00006173@westmark> <20080608021633.GA6799@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20080608021633.GA6799@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806080420.31427.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 07:20:37 -0000 On Saturday 07 June 2008 23:16:34 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 12:03:50AM +0200, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > > On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:33:26 -0500 > > > > "Sam Fourman Jr." wrote: > > > use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9 > > > plugin > > > > People choosing FreeBSD shouldn't be "forced" to run windowish > > solution. The OS is not supported. That's a major problem in these > > modern times, although lots of fbsd people tend to say it is not. > > That's not everyday's live however. FreeBSD does not make the web. > > OK. So get busy anc contribute a flash9 plugin that works in FreeBSD. > See if you can get the necessary information out of Adobe. > > ////jerry I don't know to what extent this might come in handy .. but in case anyone wants to pick up that gauntlet, you can find quite a lot to start with in here : http://www.adobe.com/devnet/swf/ http://www.adobe.com/devnet/swf/pdf/swf_file_format_spec_v9.pdf http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flv/ http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flv/pdf/video_file_format_spec_v9.pdf http://www.adobe.com/openscreenproject/ Blessings -- Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 07:52:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0961065676 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 07:52:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57003.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57003.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DFFD58FC16 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 07:52:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 83954 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jun 2008 07:51:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=GpKbKWezKCk6iJzI+6jvlisHcvWogpzKqrZL0rXtl6T/JMKDdPrQmhtUUxSDml6vAnyoDssaLQQh47R4hwK8uHC4GJ/zKqJ/p47K161kqh7Gw63pxcNQT6u2cZeqR/SRaXrHXdfETpPTPOjEgHfUpZ+uYzcEjkw37QxIBS3SA0o=; Received: from [165.21.155.114] by web57003.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 00:51:57 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 00:51:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <782244.83844.qm@web57003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Subject: How to do regression on libc? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: unga888@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 07:52:02 -0000 Hi all How to do regression on libc to verify the correctness? Kind regards Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 09:28:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007D61065674 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57009.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57009.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.113]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D8508FC0A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 70678 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jun 2008 09:28:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Kr7nqBkQceEJI/SqoRAVIz0aeuWPAwi3eG/qJ1G+LUqkPKVrhZ5UwtpEY3NEHaGZQaCBHsmbEnOJFKR+qMZNFLDVD32pVdXnemU2A0lSqd1ILmx9cj2dXX6NMxRypxmDJsSFesiwlvHGXglHxONQtLA+nz1Y/Rh1hwR290UYvUA=; Received: from [165.21.155.112] by web57009.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 02:28:09 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 02:28:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <839604.70009.qm@web57009.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Subject: What consists FreeBSD Libc? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: unga888@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 09:28:11 -0000 Hi all What consists FreeBSD Libc (/lib/libc.so.7)? Is it only /usr/src/lib/libc/* ? I have compiled /usr/src/lib/libc/*, the resulting libc.so.7 is about 65,000 bytes smaller. Kind regards Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 09:34:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5AB106566B for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E118FC13 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2074874rvf.43 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 02:34:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=biJNQccy9aEQv0wF71vO5WYTk5L+3Xa+KhvJ7pRqKP4=; b=Fku9mPtboJGTc4PwpDybe37aDcD2yGfWyofMUJL8nioVLUpU6VlfrToP7X00hDHBJn Aag3ewTmJT2j66pd81ls5EZaON+O5TDzLZOzi9GdNp2IBANHynVmSXlwJtm/M/bwhMWC H6ntz/tcb3Dvi/ja3OhMO4BT/n6GFXIuBySa0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=tcHnDjGil5oC2JZ3L1r5xiCW/7iK5RI/hGX99eCv4+XsCXjf9UjM526VuMflfZjxsm VWaSf3kljVnd/9/GnjULX63mynYF6QtooXFNsO8fWFEzkZ4U8jYLkqpBUw6R+3cW13DM wOmoH9icgCU63gFdXO+xYtDK+l1JNBTRbGP7s= Received: by 10.140.200.16 with SMTP id x16mr1285616rvf.120.1212917657608; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 02:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.186.2 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 02:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <11167f520806080234u2b9e29b0l13c513d783ccadaa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 04:34:17 -0500 From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: "Gonzalo Nemmi" In-Reply-To: <200806080420.31427.gnemmi@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> <20080608000350.00006173@westmark> <20080608021633.GA6799@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <200806080420.31427.gnemmi@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 09:34:18 -0000 for what it is worth, between 3 companies that I do consulting for, there are about 250 workstations that currently use, Windows ME, or Windows 2000.Flash and Microsoft Outlook remain the only 2 reasons we can not use PC-BSD. Wine is making some GREAT Progress, and very shortly if not already, Outlook will run in wine, and the lack of a current flash player will remain the only thing standing in the way of 250 more PC-BSD stations. Sam Fourman Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 09:39:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCB91065675 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@superhero.nl) Received: from superhero.nl (wolverine.superhero.nl [77.73.16.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92BEF8FC24 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:39:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@superhero.nl) Received: (qmail 68348 invoked by uid 80); 8 Jun 2008 09:39:28 -0000 Received: from 82.95.198.17 (SquirrelMail authenticated user gelsemap) by webmail.superhero.nl with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:39:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <49343.82.95.198.17.1212917968.squirrel@webmail.superhero.nl> In-Reply-To: <484B1088.6030905@queldor.net> References: <56297.82.95.198.17.1212870050.squirrel@webmail.superhero.nl> <484B1088.6030905@queldor.net> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:39:28 +0200 (CEST) From: "Gelsema, P \(Patrick\) - FreeBSD" To: "Michael Toth" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFE setting manually to 1000baseT and half duplex X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 09:39:31 -0000 On Sun, June 8, 2008 00:49, Michael Toth wrote: > Hi, > You should be doing > # ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media 1000baseTX <--- note the 'X' > > Thanks, tried this but same error. hulk# ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media 1000baseTX ifconfig: SIOCSIFMEDIA (media): Device not configured hulk$ man nfe The nfe driver supports the following media types: autoselect Enable autoselection of the media type and options. 10baseT/UTP Set 10Mbps operation. 100baseTX Set 100Mbps (Fast Ethernet) operation. 1000baseT Set 1000Mbps (Gigabit Ethernet) operation (recent models only). The nfe driver supports the following media options: half-duplex Force half duplex operation. full-duplex Force full duplex operation. Also for some strange reason I lost a couple of ip aliases and my default route whilst trying to change the media and mediaopt. I start to wonder if the combination 1000baseT and half duplex is possible. However setting the NIC manually to 1000baseT doesnt work either. IF set to autoselect it does negotiate to 1000baseT as I can see on the switch. Thanks Patrick > > > Gelsema, P (Patrick) - FreeBSD wrote: >> Hi List, >> >> I am using the nfe driver on Freebsd 7.0R and I am unable to change the >> NIC driver manually to 1000baseT with half-duplex. I believe I am not >> getting the max out of my network connection and want to see if changing >> the duplex will help. >> >> hulk# ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media 100baseTX >> hulk# ifconfig nfe0 >> nfe0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu >> 1500 >> options=8 >> ether 00:18:f3:9f:f1:b4 >> inet6 fe80::218:f3ff:fe9f:f1b4%nfe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 >> inet 10.202.77.113 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255 >> inet 10.202.77.114 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255 >> inet 10.202.77.76 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255 >> inet 192.168.0.10 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 >> inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 >> inet 10.202.77.110 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 10.255.255.255 >> media: Ethernet 100baseTX (1000baseTX ) >> status: active >> >> Why between () the 1000baseTX? Is that the actual speed? The maximum >> speed? >> >> hulk# ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media 1000baseT >> ifconfig: SIOCSIFMEDIA (media): Device not configured >> >> man nfe says this is possible. >> >> hulk# ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media autoselect >> hulk# ifconfig nfe0 >> nfe0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu >> 1500 >> options=8 >> ether 00:18:f3:9f:f1:b4 >> inet6 fe80::218:f3ff:fe9f:f1b4%nfe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 >> inet 10.202.77.114 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255 >> inet 10.202.77.76 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255 >> inet 192.168.0.10 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 >> inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 >> inet 10.202.77.110 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 10.255.255.255 >> media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) >> status: active >> >> hulk# ifconfig nfe0 mediaopt half-duplex >> No errors but cant see if it works. >> >> Question is, why cant I just do the following; >> hulk# ifconfig nfe0 media 1000baseT mediaopt half-duplex >> >> pciconf -lv >> nfe0@pci0:0:7:0: class=0x068000 card=0x82341043 chip=0x03ef10de >> rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 >> vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' >> device = 'MCP61 Ethernet' >> class = bridge >> >> hulk# uname -a >> FreeBSD hulk.superhero.nl 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #1: Sun Feb 24 >> 14:37:26 CET 2008 >> admin@hulk.superhero.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC >> amd64 >> hulk# >> >> Thanks and regards, >> >> Patrick >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 09:47:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CB31065683 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:47:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA0D8FC18 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:47:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417C5FD067 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:47:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD44FD061 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:47:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484BAA9A.9050304@webrz.net> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:47:06 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Core tuning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 09:47:08 -0000 Can I force manual load balancing on my dual core processor? Or is this entirely handled by FreeBSD itself? Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 09:55:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46761065674 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B768FC18; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:55:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <484BACA8.8070906@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:55:52 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jos Chrispijn References: <484BAA9A.9050304@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <484BAA9A.9050304@webrz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Core tuning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 09:55:54 -0000 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Can I force manual load balancing on my dual core processor? Or is this > entirely handled by FreeBSD itself? > Jos That's the job of the scheduler. If you are running -current there is the cpuset utility that allows you to bind processes to subsets of CPUs. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 09:56:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C1F10656AE for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35ECB8FC0C for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:50340 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K5HdX-00051x-4W for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:56:31 +0200 Received: (qmail 57282 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2008 11:56:28 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 8 Jun 2008 11:56:28 +0200 Received: (qmail 34304 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Jun 2008 11:56:28 +0200 Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:56:28 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: "Gelsema, P \(Patrick\) - FreeBSD" Message-ID: <20080608095628.GA34267@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <56297.82.95.198.17.1212870050.squirrel@webmail.superhero.nl> <484B1088.6030905@queldor.net> <49343.82.95.198.17.1212917968.squirrel@webmail.superhero.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49343.82.95.198.17.1212917968.squirrel@webmail.superhero.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1K5HdX-00051x-4W. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1K5HdX-00051x-4W c6eaab79b935dd8b7b9243c40cce4d38 Cc: Michael Toth , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFE setting manually to 1000baseT and half duplex X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 09:56:32 -0000 On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 11:39:28AM +0200, Gelsema, P (Patrick) - FreeBSD wrote: > On Sun, June 8, 2008 00:49, Michael Toth wrote: > > Hi, > > You should be doing > > # ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media 1000baseTX <--- note the 'X' > > > > > > Thanks, tried this but same error. > > hulk# ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media 1000baseTX > ifconfig: SIOCSIFMEDIA (media): Device not configured > > hulk$ man nfe > The nfe driver supports the following media types: > > autoselect Enable autoselection of the media type and options. > > 10baseT/UTP Set 10Mbps operation. > > 100baseTX Set 100Mbps (Fast Ethernet) operation. > > 1000baseT Set 1000Mbps (Gigabit Ethernet) operation (recent models > only). > > The nfe driver supports the following media options: > > half-duplex Force half duplex operation. > > full-duplex Force full duplex operation. > > Also for some strange reason I lost a couple of ip aliases and my default > route whilst trying to change the media and mediaopt. > > I start to wonder if the combination 1000baseT and half duplex is > possible. However setting the NIC manually to 1000baseT doesnt work > either. IF set to autoselect it does negotiate to 1000baseT as I can see > on the switch. If you try to force the NIC to use full-/half-duplex, then you will need to force the other end of the connection (i.e. the switch) to the same setting (most cheap switches do not provide any way of forcing this.) Having one end set to auto-negotiation, while the other is forced to a specific setting will usually not work very well. (IIRC a switch or NIC that is set to auto-negotiate, but where the negotiation fails (possibly because the other end is not set to auto-negotiate) will usually revert to 10Mbps/half-duplex, i.e. the original, slowest, Ethernet speed.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 10:33:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC209106566C for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 10:33:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56438FC1A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 10:33:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58ATKdN024513; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:29:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.5.5 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m58ATKdN024513 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1212920967; bh=majxSFjFSHWOnp WAXVCnJdsWXzTOknaoV7iBpt+3R0I=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<484BB47A.5050404@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sun,=2 008=20Jun=202008=2011:29:14=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080607)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Erik=20Trulsson=20|CC:=20"Gelsema, =20P=20\(Patrick\)=20-=20FreeBSD"=20,=20=0D=0 A=20Michael=20Toth=20,=0D=0A=20freebsd-q uestions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20NFE=20setting=20manually=20to =201000baseT=20and=20half=20duplex|References:=20<56297.82.95.198.1 7.1212870050.squirrel@webmail.superhero.nl>=09<484B1088.6030905@que ldor.net>=09<49343.82.95.198.17.1212917968.squirrel@webmail.superhe ro.nl>=20<20080608095628.GA34267@owl.midgard.homeip.net>|In-Reply-T o:=20<20080608095628.GA34267@owl.midgard.homeip.net>|X-Enigmail-Ver sion:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-s ha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20 boundary=3D"------------enigE2F79AE540E1C200B2371BB7"; b=MkJi+2cEzg YgMFdaVHJc43RuFO8rxwGUlEuwNqsj1uZPvd1gxebjYPlhZExcfC8wreES6T0Y1DL9p JfLYOvcNM7v6J2bVieQsxUeCogUMVWebiz3vT2g4oqus+OIp2JxYNLJ3HRtrLCl2tfC 0UEA8ZWogYQF9ogWq1LRMmlvtDo= Message-ID: <484BB47A.5050404@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:29:14 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Trulsson References: <56297.82.95.198.17.1212870050.squirrel@webmail.superhero.nl> <484B1088.6030905@queldor.net> <49343.82.95.198.17.1212917968.squirrel@webmail.superhero.nl> <20080608095628.GA34267@owl.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20080608095628.GA34267@owl.midgard.homeip.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE2F79AE540E1C200B2371BB7" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:29:27 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93, clamav-milter version 0.93 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Michael Toth , "Gelsema, P \(Patrick\) - FreeBSD" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFE setting manually to 1000baseT and half duplex X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 10:33:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE2F79AE540E1C200B2371BB7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Erik Trulsson wrote: > (IIRC a switch or NIC that is set to auto-negotiate, but where the > negotiation fails (possibly because the other end is not set to > auto-negotiate) will usually revert to 10Mbps/half-duplex, i.e. the > original, slowest, Ethernet speed.) 100Mb half-duplex is the default setting in this sort of mismatch. It will 'sort of' work, but you'll find performance is terrible and there will be significant amounts of packet loss. Note too that 1Gb speeds require both sides to be set to autonegotiate -- it's part of the standard for supporting those speeds, so that in the event of transmission difficulties the connection can be gracefully degraded rather than just ceasing to work at all. There's a lot of received wisdom around that wiring down connection speeds is a good idea. That may have been the case 5 or more years ago, when there were certainly some combinations of NIC / network switch manufacturer that just wouldn't negotiate correctly, but now that=20 1Gb/s capability is pretty much standard such incompatibilities are rare. Nowadays, for best results, auto-negotiate. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigE2F79AE540E1C200B2371BB7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkhLtIAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwLxACcDfyBNivjfLAPecO3tKSDIT4Q l7AAnjM2jTmu5vfK2cMs3e/lAZkHyroZ =+5EW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE2F79AE540E1C200B2371BB7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 10:37:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE2C1065675 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 10:37:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312C88FC21; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 10:37:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <484BB669.7080502@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:37:29 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: unga888@yahoo.com References: <839604.70009.qm@web57009.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <839604.70009.qm@web57009.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What consists FreeBSD Libc? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 10:37:30 -0000 Unga wrote: > Hi all > > What consists FreeBSD Libc (/lib/libc.so.7)? Is it only /usr/src/lib/libc/* ? Yes. > I have compiled /usr/src/lib/libc/*, the resulting libc.so.7 is about 65,000 bytes smaller. Than what? It will change depending on your CFLAGS. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 10:43:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 362B51065671 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 10:43:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A7E8FC0A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 10:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB127FD067; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:43:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F4BFD061; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:43:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484BB7E5.8030805@webrz.net> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:43:49 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484BAA9A.9050304@webrz.net> <484BACA8.8070906@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <484BACA8.8070906@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Cc: Subject: Re: Core tuning [Solved] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 10:43:50 -0000 Kris, > That's the job of the scheduler. If you are running -current there is > the cpuset utility that allows you to bind processes to subsets of CPUs. I see; thanks for sharing From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 11:02:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E121106566C for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:02:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1CD38FC1A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:02:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 7670472; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 07:02:02 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 7670470; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 07:01:56 -0400 Message-ID: <484BBC23.90505@radel.com> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 07:01:55 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gelsema, P \(Patrick\) - FreeBSD" , freebsd questions References: <56297.82.95.198.17.1212870050.squirrel@webmail.superhero.nl> In-Reply-To: <56297.82.95.198.17.1212870050.squirrel@webmail.superhero.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010708040000010707090009" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: Subject: Re: NFE setting manually to 1000baseT and half duplex X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:02:03 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010708040000010707090009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gelsema, P (Patrick) - FreeBSD wrote: > Hi List, > > I am using the nfe driver on Freebsd 7.0R and I am unable to change > the NIC driver manually to 1000baseT with half-duplex. I believe I am > not getting the max out of my network connection and want to see if > changing the duplex will help. Even if you do have hardware that supports half-duplex gigabit ethernet on both ends, the need to do carrier extension for any frame shorter than 512 bytes so that CSMA/CD actually works on a reasonable sized cable, does horrible things to your throughput if you've got lots of small frames. (In other words, at gigabit speeds, frames smaller than 512 bytes zip down the wire so quickly that you can no longer reliably detect collisions, so the frames all get padded.) I'm having trouble wrapping my head around any circumstances other than horribly, horribly broken hardware or software where half-duplex would increase your performance over full-duplex. That said, most (an imprecise way saying "every time I've looked this has been the case, but I generally no longer bother looking") gigabit ethernet hardware I've ever touched has been incapable of doing half-duplex when it's being used at gigabit speeds. The specs for doing it exist more for theoretical completeness than out of practical utility. See, for example http://www.intel.com/network/connectivity/resources/doc_library/white_papers/solutions/copper_guide/gig_over_copper.htm for a discussion on this and related topics. My suggestion would be to let both sides auto-detect if they're both capable of gigabit ethernet. --Jon Radel --------------ms010708040000010707090009 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJMTCC AvMwggJcoAMCAQICEG2TkfF/93Sx9LCftry1D3YwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA4MDMyNDE2NTkyMVoX DTA5MDMyNDE2NTkyMVowXjEOMAwGA1UEBBMFUmFkZWwxEzARBgNVBCoTCkpvbiBUaG9tYXMx GTAXBgNVBAMTEEpvbiBUaG9tYXMgUmFkZWwxHDAaBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWDWpvbkByYWRlbC5j b20wggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDPdCxQufreHHDAI9YN2axx87Rf 0TK1PYFMlJHi4y1ebdAMPqR6M44bz+3m8YnKn1bmIf7dWyisWyAIQYCOhW/2r66o4MdF9qJ9 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uc1RdaChjmJyIeg/yEmT1L96d6RexANpeRZ/AcVBkZQgz91bkQAAAAAAAA== --------------ms010708040000010707090009-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 11:20:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B3A1065670 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B4B8FC1C for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:20:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58BK6JD051584; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:20:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m58BK134051581; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:20:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:20:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Unga In-Reply-To: <839604.70009.qm@web57009.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080608131942.S51563@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <839604.70009.qm@web57009.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What consists FreeBSD Libc? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:20:24 -0000 with the same compiler options and same compiler as used with binary distribution? On Sun, 8 Jun 2008, Unga wrote: > Hi all > > What consists FreeBSD Libc (/lib/libc.so.7)? Is it only /usr/src/lib/libc/* ? > > I have compiled /usr/src/lib/libc/*, the resulting libc.so.7 is about 65,000 bytes smaller. > > Kind regards > Unga > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 11:20:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E2B1065670 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:20:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200748FC28 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:20:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58BKZtE051592; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:20:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m58BKWe7051589; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:20:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:20:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jona Joachim In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080608132024.J51563@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <560f92640806061458k7b413e9du49c84c252b424fcb@mail.gmail.com> <200806062217.m56MHgKV019665@vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: massive ports update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:20:50 -0000 > > That's not uncommon. For example when you go from one major FreeBSD version to > another you have to rebuild everything most of the time because of ABI changes. or install misc/compat6x :) > Of course you could also wait for the building cluster to catch up and do a > binary upgrade (-P in portupgrade). > > Jona > > -- > Pond-erosa Puff wouldn't take no guff > Water oughta be clean and free > So he fought the fight and he set things right > With his OpenBSD > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 12:05:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4F11065674 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:05:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0868FC1E for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:05:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id 869FD16B4B0; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:36:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.85]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1AC3016B56C; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:36:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:32:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:32:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: "Sam Fourman Jr." In-Reply-To: <11167f520806071333r7d51192at3bdcc5e63cb6766@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080608062921.A45721@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> <11167f520806071333r7d51192at3bdcc5e63cb6766@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.9 required=10.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,OACYS_SINGLE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Derek Graham , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:05:55 -0000 On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9 > plugin That worked like a charm, but Adobe Reader 8.12 not only crashes the browser, but also wine and X. So now I have wine firefox which can handle Flash 9, but crashes on pdfs and linux-firefox which handles pdfs, but crashes on Flash. This seems somehow suboptimal. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 12:10:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F671065675 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:10:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94108FC1F for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58CA2TS060525; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:10:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m58C9wQ6060522; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:10:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:09:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jon Radel In-Reply-To: <484BBC23.90505@radel.com> Message-ID: <20080608140911.S40202@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <56297.82.95.198.17.1212870050.squirrel@webmail.superhero.nl> <484BBC23.90505@radel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "Gelsema, P \(Patrick\) - FreeBSD" , freebsd questions Subject: Re: NFE setting manually to 1000baseT and half duplex X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:10:10 -0000 > Even if you do have hardware that supports half-duplex gigabit ethernet > on both ends, the need to do carrier extension for any frame shorter > than 512 bytes so that CSMA/CD actually works on a reasonable sized > cable, does horrible things to your throughput if you've got lots of > small frames. (In other words, at gigabit speeds, frames smaller than > 512 bytes zip down the wire so quickly that you can no longer reliably > detect collisions, so the frames all get padded.) I'm having trouble wrapping > my head around any circumstances other than horribly, horribly broken > hardware or software where half-duplex would increase your performance over > full-duplex. actually there are no gigabit devices incapable of full-duplex. > ethernet hardware I've ever touched has been incapable of doing > half-duplex when it's being used at gigabit speeds. The specs for doing > it exist more for theoretical completeness than out of practical > utility. See, for example > > http://www.intel.com/network/connectivity/resources/doc_library/white_papers/solutions/copper_guide/gig_over_copper.htm at 10Gbit/s specs dropped half-duplex and collision detection at all. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 12:59:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAF21065674 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:59:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from raq5.nitrex.net (raq5.nitrex.net [213.165.227.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912478FC25 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:59:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.10.140] (gate.zenatode.org.uk [213.165.225.167]) by raq5.nitrex.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m58CxGsE018669 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:59:21 +0100 Message-ID: <484BD7A3.8090308@onetel.com> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:59:15 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080528) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: losing directory entries? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:59:23 -0000 Hi, does anyone know what is going on here? this is an external usb 250gb hard disk mounted on /mnt using ntfs-3g. The hard disk is less than a year old and not heavily used. I've only just started using it as an external drive, it was installed in a computer until then. %mount /dev/ad4s1a on / (ufs, local) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/ad4s1e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad4s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad4s1d on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/fuse1 on /mnt (fusefs, local, synchronous) %pwd /mnt/Documents and Settings/Administrator %ls Application data Local Settings My Documents %ls .. Administrator %ls . Application data Local Settings My Documents %pwd /mnt/Documents and Settings/Administrator %du -sh . 5.2G . %pwd /mnt/Documents and Settings/Administrator %find . > ~/anyold.textfile find: .: No such file or directory %pwd pwd: .: No such file or directory %ls ls: .: No such file or directory The actions leading up to this are quite random, usually using find and du do the trick immediately but not always, and one time just doing pwd and ls a couple of times did it. If I cd to /mnt then everything appears again. %uname -a FreeBSD eco 7.0-STABLE FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #4: Tue May 27 14:44:58 BST 2008 root@eco:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 %kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 16 0xc0400000 94181c kernel 2 1 0xc0d42000 14324 snd_hda.ko 3 2 0xc0d57000 4a5cc sound.ko 4 1 0xc0da2000 80dc6c nvidia.ko 5 2 0xc15b0000 28678 linux.ko 6 1 0xc15d9000 4d20 atapicam.ko 7 1 0xc15de000 6a2c4 acpi.ko 8 1 0xc4bb0000 e000 fuse.ko %pkg_info -Ix ntfs fusefs-ntfs-1.2506 Mount NTFS partitions (read/write) and disk images ntfsprogs-1.13.1_5 Utilities and library to manipulate NTFS partitions % I did a recent chkdsk in windows on the disk and it did some repairs - cross-linked files I think. I have a log of what it found. Thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 13:14:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF99A1065677 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:14:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.10.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5739C8FC16 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:14:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (midgard.nagual.nl [192.168.11.32]) by nagual.nl (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/yanta) with ESMTP id m58DFRwu018248 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:15:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 192.168.11.31 (SquirrelMail authenticated user dick) by nagual.nl with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:15:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <39310.192.168.11.31.1212930927.squirrel@nagual.nl> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:15:27 +0200 (CEST) From: "dick hoogendijk" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 192.168.11.35 Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:14:59 -0000 On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:16:34 -0400 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 12:03:50AM +0200, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > > > On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:33:26 -0500 > > "Sam Fourman Jr." wrote: > > > > > use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9 plugin > > > > People choosing FreeBSD shouldn't be "forced" to run windowish solution. The OS is not supported. That's a major problem in these modern times, although lots of fbsd people tend to say it is not. That's not everyday's live however. FreeBSD does not make the web. > > OK. So get busy anc contribute a flash9 plugin that works in > FreeBSD. See if you can get the necessary information out of Adobe. As Tobias Hoelrich stated: That's simply wrong. The Flash format byte-code is *not* proprietary. If you want to, you can go ahead and create your own Flash Player. The specifications for the format are freely available at: http://www.adobe.com/openscreenproject/developers/ So, the infromation -is- there. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ http://nagual.nl/ | SunOS 10u5 05/08 ++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 13:19:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781371065680 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:19:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A10D8FC1F for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:19:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m58DEVIq008830; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:14:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m58DEUnU008829; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:14:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:14:30 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: sergio lenzi Message-ID: <20080608131430.GA8787@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> <11167f520806071333r7d51192at3bdcc5e63cb6766@mail.gmail.com> <20080608000350.00006173@westmark> <484B695B.9030503@infracaninophile.co.uk> <1212904896.21888.10.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1212904896.21888.10.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:19:28 -0000 On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:01:36AM -0300, sergio lenzi wrote: > Well... > > Here I am in a project of notebooks for schools > machines with 13" 120gb of disk turion 64... > All of them running FreeBSD 7.0 it is about 7000 notebooks > in the first year... > > With a total of 35000 notebooks in 3 years... and counting... > may be a total of 100,000 notebooks in 5 years... Sounds like you should also install the BSD Stats utility on those machines so they will report their existence to the stats. It would significantly update the numbers. ////jerry > > Because of special taxes applied in the notebooks, > the user must use FreeBSD or Linux. If the user formats > the computer and install other non open source OS, > the user must pay the taxes difference to the project... > a value of about US$200. and will not be able to access > the university data. > > Well.. about the flashplugin... it is a problem... for sure... > they work with flashplugin 7.... > > The wireless is a problem too, for that we choose intel or atheros > chip... > > Tell the flashplugin team about... please > > Sergio > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 13:29:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F99F1065672 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:29:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hagge1983@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49DD8FC0A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:29:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hagge1983@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1590485wfg.7 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:29:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=NuLc5HSCCGoqKO7SIwd8m+LejDgtEMMXFiWMyBjM7+w=; b=mpsbKpKeocItV1E4Ygd38JlBng+bI6RUNUp+zP7l4VLB1Es7ZbXDiWGLX2nldVFQyN NqllYnIl3Ib9klYFLwLG5m9MF0BX5NmiIGHF0OmUWRtPwJY3h2hdK0VUbiXa2EfJ2bF0 XrcaKq4JA0J4NkvIqn+DUEW7uKvQoWvL9pM0E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=vnHzRRiab0HyCkl7TCYoogCJmC7v4ToEItiPVQwjktid/6bgrJ8/JmCtOLvUrCjFHC TL5oWbjcYe6243I6ZR9dRNTdqmbQUhzUbEwJgVBevZ7uA5CNsdnI2fGUyRu0pmap5ZNJ clz7lWVTEuG5L2BzaNh0EFKsPPMEaZiPZNeVA= Received: by 10.142.147.18 with SMTP id u18mr926315wfd.343.1212930279664; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.169.6 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:04:39 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_H=E4ggstr=F6m?=" Sender: hagge1983@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: bb48efc26811bca1 Subject: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:29:03 -0000 Hello list! I plan to install a web server for production use and ZFS looks very interesting, especially since it has built-in support for RAID and checksum. The hardware is already purchased, a 1U-casis with a PhemonX4 9550 CPU, 4GB ECC RAM @ 800MHz and 2x500GB SATA disks and I am about to select the operating system to use. The choice is probably between "Debian 4.0r3", "FreeBSD 7.0" and "OpenSolaris 2008.05". All of them have their pros and cons. I think Debian / Linux, almost falls off because it lacks support for native ZFS and I have not found any alternative filesystem that offer checksums on the fly. My main question is: How is the support for ZFS on FreeBSD? Is it sufficiently stable and fast enough to be used in production yet? If not, is there any alternative filesystem that offers checksums on the fly or other similar technology to reduce the risk of a corrupt filesystem that at the same time plays well with software RAID (RAID-1 in particular)? Thanks in advance! Anders From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 13:36:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B414106564A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rabe@uugrn.org) Received: from mail.uugrn.org (mail.uugrn.org [195.49.138.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F598FC14 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:36:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rabe@uugrn.org) Received: from rabe.uugrn.org (root@rabe.uugrn.org [195.49.138.102]) by mail.uugrn.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m58DaVVs084975 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:36:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rabe@uugrn.org) Received: from daemon.ma.sigsys.de (rabe@rabe.uugrn.org [195.49.138.102]) by rabe.uugrn.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m58DaUEK084971 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:36:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rabe@uugrn.org) Received: from daemon.ma.sigsys.de (localhost.ma.sigsys.de [127.0.0.1]) by daemon.ma.sigsys.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58Dat69096630 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:36:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rabe@uugrn.org) Received: (from rabe@localhost) by daemon.ma.sigsys.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m58DatPg096629 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:36:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rabe@uugrn.org) X-Authentication-Warning: daemon.ma.sigsys.de: rabe set sender to rabe@uugrn.org using -f Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:36:55 +0200 From: Raphael Becker To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080608133654.GC54922@ma.sigsys.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9Ek0hoCL9XbhcSqy" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Which SATA controller for DVDRAM? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:36:43 -0000 --9Ek0hoCL9XbhcSqy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi *, which SATA controller is supported for SATA-DVDRAM (or just any other=20 optical drive)? Promise controllers doesn't seem to work with FreeBSD. Regards Raphael Becker --=20 Raphael Becker http://rabe.uugrn.org/ GnuPG: E7B2 1D66 3AF2 EDC7 9828 6D7A 9CDA 3E7B 10CA 9F2D =2E........|.........|.........|.........|.........|.........|.........|.. --9Ek0hoCL9XbhcSqy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFIS+B2nNo+exDKny0RAhHpAKC/Htk9tTdv3tD6frklPO0slbD4YwCghXtU w+DOPpKo4sLHAotwdYCOnp8= =TkYS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9Ek0hoCL9XbhcSqy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 13:37:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B05E1065700 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:37:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from raq5.nitrex.net (raq5.nitrex.net [213.165.227.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C448FC1B for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:37:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.10.140] (gate.zenatode.org.uk [213.165.225.167]) by raq5.nitrex.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m58DbBFt021603 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:37:13 +0100 Message-ID: <484BE086.7080301@onetel.com> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:37:10 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080528) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> <11167f520806071333r7d51192at3bdcc5e63cb6766@mail.gmail.com> <20080608000350.00006173@westmark> <484B695B.9030503@infracaninophile.co.uk> <1212904896.21888.10.camel@localhost> <20080608131430.GA8787@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20080608131430.GA8787@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: sergio lenzi , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:37:16 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:01:36AM -0300, sergio lenzi wrote: > >> Well... >> >> Here I am in a project of notebooks for schools >> machines with 13" 120gb of disk turion 64... >> All of them running FreeBSD 7.0 it is about 7000 notebooks >> in the first year... >> >> With a total of 35000 notebooks in 3 years... and counting... >> may be a total of 100,000 notebooks in 5 years... > > Sounds like you should also install the BSD Stats utility on those > machines so they will report their existence to the stats. It would > significantly update the numbers. > > ////jerry > What is the project? An article about it would be great for FreeBSD news... Chris > > >> Because of special taxes applied in the notebooks, >> the user must use FreeBSD or Linux. If the user formats >> the computer and install other non open source OS, >> the user must pay the taxes difference to the project... >> a value of about US$200. and will not be able to access >> the university data. >> >> Well.. about the flashplugin... it is a problem... for sure... >> they work with flashplugin 7.... >> >> The wireless is a problem too, for that we choose intel or atheros >> chip... >> >> Tell the flashplugin team about... please >> >> Sergio >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 13:49:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7341F1065676 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:49:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303618FC17 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:49:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6388FD06B for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:49:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86196FD061 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:49:44 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484BE376.9050301@webrz.net> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:49:42 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Make buildworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:49:43 -0000 Can someone tell me the difference between 'make -j2 buildworld' and 'make -j4 buildworld' ? Thanks, Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 13:50:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF1C1065679 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:50:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rabe@uugrn.org) Received: from mail.uugrn.org (mail.uugrn.org [195.49.138.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716598FC13 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:50:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rabe@uugrn.org) Received: from rabe.uugrn.org (root@rabe.uugrn.org [195.49.138.102]) by mail.uugrn.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m58DNtmu084167; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:24:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rabe@uugrn.org) Received: from daemon.ma.sigsys.de (rabe@rabe.uugrn.org [195.49.138.102]) by rabe.uugrn.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m58DNthC084163; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:23:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rabe@uugrn.org) Received: from daemon.ma.sigsys.de (localhost.ma.sigsys.de [127.0.0.1]) by daemon.ma.sigsys.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58DOJhP096455; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:24:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rabe@uugrn.org) Received: (from rabe@localhost) by daemon.ma.sigsys.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m58DOJWR096454; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:24:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rabe@uugrn.org) X-Authentication-Warning: daemon.ma.sigsys.de: rabe set sender to rabe@uugrn.org using -f Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:24:19 +0200 From: Raphael Becker To: Edward Sutton Message-ID: <20080608132418.GB54922@ma.sigsys.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Promise SATA300 TX2plus with LG GGW-H20L burner on 7.0 causes endless timeouts. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:50:11 -0000 --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Edward, same here (RELEASE 6.3): atapci0: port 0xd800-0xd87f,0xd400-0x= d4ff mem 0xdfeff000-0xdfefffff,0xdfec00 00-0xdfedffff irq 19 at device 3.0 = on pci2 [...] atapci1: port 0xc400-0xc43f,0xc000-0x= c00f,0xbc00-0xbc7f mem 0xdfefd000-0xdfefdfff,0xdfe40000-0xdfe5ffff irq 22 a= t device 14.0 on pci2 [...] ad0: 78533MB at ata0-master UDMA100 ad2: 286168MB at ata1-master UDMA100 GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1f is label/HOMEcrypt. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad2s1 is ufs/DATA. acd0: timeout waiting to issue command acd0: error issuing ATA PACKET command acd0: timeout waiting to issue command acd0: error issuing ATA PACKET command acd0: timeout waiting to issue command acd0: error issuing ATA PACKET command acd0: CDROM at ata5-master SATA150 acd0: timeout waiting to issue command acd0: error issuing ATA PACKET command acd0: timeout waiting to issue command acd0: error issuing ATA PACKET command [... lot more ...] acd0: timeout waiting to issue command acd0: error issuing ATA PACKET command ad12: 286188MB at ata6-master SATA150 ad14: 476940MB at ata7-master SATA150 [...] The DVDRAM doesn't work on both Promise-Controllers (onboard and the 300TX4 PCI), also tested with 7-STBLE snapshot and 8-CURRENT snapshot live CDs. It's running perfect with a recent Knoppix DVD so it's not a hardware bug. See http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Dkern/122291 for more details on this. Regards Raphael Becker On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 12:03:00AM -0700, Edward Sutton wrote: >=20 > This is a collection of information to my troubles. I am hoping to find= out what mailing list is most appropriate before I started posting kernel = dump backtraces and asking what other details to post. What other details m= ay be relevant to gather would also be helpful. Are there safe ways to cras= h a system to gather details without further filesystem corruption? > My motherboard is about six years old so it has no SATA ports for the d= rive; My old Promise SATA150 TX4 was loaded with four hard drives; it appea= rs to not support optical drives so I recently purchased the Promise SATA30= 0 TX2plus to have a card giving what I need on this old computer and hopefu= lly an IDE port on my next computer (if the board I buy in a year comes wit= h a PCI slot for it). I thought Promise cards receive good FreeBSD support = and was readily available at a local retailer.=20 > Upon booting, I get the following 2 errors after a long pause: >=20 > acd0: timeout waiting to issue command > acd0: error issuing ATA PACKET command --=20 Raphael Becker http://rabe.uugrn.org/ GnuPG: E7B2 1D66 3AF2 EDC7 9828 6D7A 9CDA 3E7B 10CA 9F2D =2E........|.........|.........|.........|.........|.........|.........|.. --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFIS92CnNo+exDKny0RAnOKAKCCU4QSuSLGS4+q3PB0mw4wZNcPvgCgzpnt pdZQx42WIfiJrFG+Dfzt1b8= =8pDa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lEGEL1/lMxI0MVQ2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 13:52:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD33010656AE for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:52:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57009.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57009.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.113]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EFA08FC25 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:52:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 33757 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jun 2008 13:52:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=obK7AgHGQQAT3OCin3yp9raA5pnehi2/rORXIOOCrnuupyxj7DfTNpytw8K2PzZawqwCnjhlCMwb2t7+w6RdvrZzgVojznJOTnIiha4cg1IYqD4dP/bfaNwQ96RD/OOnMJi9GioOf1weim74d+zOIE4fnN/yDxZFk2vNoTg3j44=; Received: from [165.21.155.75] by web57009.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:52:40 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:52:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <484BB669.7080502@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <520110.33662.qm@web57009.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What consists FreeBSD Libc? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: unga888@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:52:42 -0000 --- On Sun, 6/8/08, Kris Kennaway wrote: > From: Kris Kennaway > Subject: Re: What consists FreeBSD Libc? > To: unga888@yahoo.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 6:37 PM > Unga wrote: > > Hi all > > > > What consists FreeBSD Libc (/lib/libc.so.7)? Is it > only /usr/src/lib/libc/* ? > > Yes. > > > I have compiled /usr/src/lib/libc/*, the resulting > libc.so.7 is about 65,000 bytes smaller. > > Than what? It will change depending on your CFLAGS. > Thanks Kris & Wojciech for replies. Its great to get it confirmed that FreeBSD Libc is only /usr/src/lib/libc/* as I presumed. I have compiled and installed the FreeBSD Libc into a temp directory. The size of /tmp/libc.so.7 is about 65,000 bytes smaller than /lib/libc.so.7. The /lib/libc.so.7 is dated May 25, 2008. I did not touch CFLAGS or anything other than DESTDIR. But I really forgot, the gcc version is different. The /lib/libc.so.7 is by gcc 4.2.1, but the /tmp/libc.so.7 is by gcc 4.3.0. May be the code generation of the latest gcc may be better. I think the size difference may not be an issue as the libc is get it compiled and installed without any error. The GNU glibc has a "make check", but there is no make check target for FreeBSD libc. How do you guys test it? Is the /usr/src/tools/regression/ any help for that? Regards Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 14:28:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BA910656C1 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:28:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from bene1.itea.ntnu.no (bene1.itea.ntnu.no [IPv6:2001:700:300:3::56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88ABB8FC1C for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein.h@lvor.halvorsen.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bene1.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5584416C7A1 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:28:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by bene1.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP id ADD5716C6C4 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:27:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 66315 invoked by uid 88); 8 Jun 2008 16:27:50 +0200 Received: from maren.math.ntnu.no (HELO weld.ej2.thelosingend.net) (129.241.211.48) by maren.thelosingend.net (qpsmtpd/0.31.1) with ESMTP; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:27:50 +0200 Message-ID: <484BEC67.2040500@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:27:51 +0200 From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080315) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: id=9198BB40; url=mailto:pgpkey@svein.halvorsen.cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at bene1.itea.ntnu.no Cc: Subject: Help with default route X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:28:06 -0000 Hi! I usually use the wired network at home, in which everything gets configured automatically as soon as I attach the cable to my network card. However, when using the wireless network, I need to run # route add default -iface ipw0 This will give me a route to the gateway (10.0.0.1), and I can ping the gateway, as well as other machines on our local network. But if I try to connect to anything outside of 10/24, I get a "no route to host" error. If I manually add a route, with # route add x.y.z.t 10.0.0.1 I can connect to that host. If I change my default route to anything but "-iface ipw0" I cannot connect to the gateway (10.0.0.1). I cannot keep adding routes to all hosts I need to connect to. I've solved the problem for web usage, by running a proxy on another machine on the local network (that's reachable) What am I doing wrong? I don't think I have a thorough understanding of network routes. Svein Halvor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 14:36:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA111065670 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:36:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay07.ispgateway.de (smtprelay07.ispgateway.de [80.67.29.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352138FC17 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:36:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from [217.50.139.218] (helo=localhost) by smtprelay07.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K5LpN-0000eP-K4; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:25:02 +0200 Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:24:56 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: "Anders =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E4ggstr=F6m?=" Message-ID: <20080608162456.1c4949bc@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2008-08-18.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/AG4Y2cHj54yExEx.RPFMluv"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Df-Sender: 775067 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:36:29 -0000 --Sig_/AG4Y2cHj54yExEx.RPFMluv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Anders H=E4ggstr=F6m" wrote: > I plan to install a web server for production use and ZFS looks very > interesting, especially since it has built-in support for RAID and > checksum. >=20 > The hardware is already purchased, a 1U-casis with a PhemonX4 9550 > CPU, 4GB ECC RAM @ 800MHz and 2x500GB SATA disks and I am about to > select the operating system to use. >=20 > The choice is probably between "Debian 4.0r3", "FreeBSD 7.0" and > "OpenSolaris 2008.05". All of them have their pros and cons. Just in case you assume that ZFS on OpenSolaris 2008.05 would be superior to ZFS on FreeBSD, this hasn't been my experience. On a system with an Athlon 1700+ and only 512 MB of RAM, receiving snapshots on OpenSolaris renders the GUI pretty much useless. On FreeBSD ZFS operations can cause delays as well, but it's significantly better than on OpenSolaris, even though FreeBSD's ZFS pool lies on a geli-encrypted gmirror while OpenSolaris uses the disk directly. Note that the system is below Sun's recommended specifications for ZFS, though. Things may look differently on more powerful systems. > I think Debian / Linux, almost falls off because it lacks support for > native ZFS and I have not found any alternative filesystem that offer > checksums on the fly. >=20 > My main question is: How is the support for ZFS on FreeBSD? Is it > sufficiently stable and fast enough to be used in production yet? It probably depends on your workload, you'll find several complaints in the archives. It works fine for me, but I haven't tried it on web servers yet. If I were to install a web server today, though, I'd definitely go with ZFS (on FreeBSD). > If not, is there any alternative filesystem that offers checksums on > the fly or other similar technology to reduce the risk of a corrupt > filesystem that at the same time plays well with software RAID (RAID-1 > in particular)? You can use geli(8) for checksumming, it can be combined with gmirror but unless with ZFS, you don't get automatic "self-healing". Fabian --Sig_/AG4Y2cHj54yExEx.RPFMluv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhL67gACgkQBYqIVf93VJ2w7ACfQKLcgCWfoTM4YJ8TKlCFfQ4T 8G0An3NnuY08XbyNC+t/pPSopMlJJtrh =sdYp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/AG4Y2cHj54yExEx.RPFMluv-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 15:06:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BF7106567C for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:06:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601FF8FC15 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:06:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1615391wfg.7 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 08:06:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=CgqnOeF9kBOiggC3uxRgdoIzQntcLSvA1U6I2jOabpo=; b=kasrmDXcnWXHz2ucNAH3YLINckacBIe75ILYPqWY4msbzkemHhHHfawgJzErVxjo/c Uye4Ia+jsY0MJWQc+KJ6lpXYYCuc32dJN+Zb3uPql7wtPemZwNkSbSIOqmyuLkbP9tUr ABJD5BevBHS0zeRnqZ2c0W8qnWKMGdTjex1Sg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=a/EX6c2bpnCC1Q4K5T1xEhRIreZeDUMYkcN0DKMnUS9epdEguQe2Y86Tv//STNbEcJ G+nm2LnMJbHu6e8WssAhk+RWqj079sIkST9a7RyA1ppzDOqHiw+jQTXpbmbkYMZhUprY HI/bCRs2unSM1mcQDJGqYdIBYizoWycdGc+GA= Received: by 10.143.29.17 with SMTP id g17mr969215wfj.239.1212936113994; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 07:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.140.17 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 07:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <82f916c90806080741n70af2fbew7bb1aaa410847a60@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:41:53 +0100 From: "Kemian Dang" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [OT]Change font for aterm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:06:26 -0000 Dear All, I used to use Bitstream Vera Sans Mono in Gnome-terminal, by change the configure in the menu. Now I am using aterm, but I also want to use that font. I can see it by fc-list: [3:39pm:kemian] ~> fc-list | grep "Sans Mono" Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Oblique Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold Oblique Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman I add entry in .Xresources: Aterm*font: xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman But run the aterm give me: aterm: can't load font "xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman" Could anyone give me a clue on how to change the font of aterm? -- Best wishes, Kemian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 15:12:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1091065688 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:12:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from netuno.levier.com.br (netuno.levier.com.br [201.47.3.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9065E8FC2C for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from levier.com.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netuno.levier.com.br (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m58A11kS082679 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:12:25 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (levier.com.br) Received: from [201.41.171.136] (authenticated as lenzi) by levier.com.br (MessageWall 1.0.8) with SMTP; 8 Jun 2008 15:12:25 -0000 From: sergio lenzi To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <484BE086.7080301@onetel.com> References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> <11167f520806071333r7d51192at3bdcc5e63cb6766@mail.gmail.com> <20080608000350.00006173@westmark> <484B695B.9030503@infracaninophile.co.uk> <1212904896.21888.10.camel@localhost> <20080608131430.GA8787@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <484BE086.7080301@onetel.com> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:12:03 -0300 Message-Id: <1212937923.38677.62.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: The Freebsd notebook project... was Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:12:28 -0000 Em Dom, 2008-06-08 às 14:37 +0100, Chris Whitehouse escreveu: > Jerry McAllister wrote: ==================================== The idea behind the FreebSD nobebook project is rather simple: Here in my country a person must (or should) pay a lot of taxes to the govern... for every notebook sold, there is about 70% of taxes plus about 6% month of fincancial costs... so a "small notebook" sells for about U$1400. in this $1400 there are almost $800 of taxes... without count the financial costs of about 6%/month (at best) . But not everything is lost... the govern invest much money in education, and health... (I know that a lot of money is lost... but it does not count, lost is lost)... For educacional pourposes, the taxes are very low (about 10%)... so a good notebook sells for US800. (final cost).. the notbook is turion 64 (preferable not dual core)... 120gb hd wireless 13"... without operating system.. and bought in chunks of 1000. Because they will use open source, and the operating system must be built from ground zero within the university... serialized, with a software key code that is able to trace the machine... (there is no debian, mandriva, gentoo....,microsoft) no comercial brand should apply... finance with the State bank in 36 months it will cost about US$20/month with insurance... The student sign a contract that will take care of the machine and if tampered (other no open source OS installed)... all the taxes should be payed by him... The notbooks runs Gnome 2.22 and with wireless in the campus, everybody can access the multimedia files stored in the FreBSD servers (about 20T)... Using a modified divx codec, the media is protected from being seen or used by non authorized persons (ok I know that the protection is not hard) but is enough for dayly used (all media is marked with a water mark (thanks mencoder team...)). The Evolution (email client...) is linked with the open exchange server and ldap... so a person can email and receive information form the university staff and others using the ldap servers... Telephony is done using Ekiga (low rates apply to PSTN)... and if you have fast internet connection, the builtin camera can be used for video on Ekiga... Gatekeepers (using gnugk) links directly to the PSTN, ekiga talks h323.. so no problem with it too. For office is used openoffice 3.0 (now beta).. Media is produced or convertd using ffmpeg mplayer... can be seen on the standard gnome media player, using libxine backend... it just works.... Hope will start installing the servers till end of this month... Ok... and the users that already have the vista boxes??? (about 2%) No problem... for a small $$$$ they can install a program that identifyes the notebook to the servers. About the media... well they can always convert the media... (some more cost is involved...) no virus protection is installed in the network. so windows users are advised to not link their computers at any point of the network (use at own risk signs are all around...) Included in the project, there is $$$$ for training the users to use gnome... (well in fact... make the users forget words and methods. (excell, outlook, word, anti-virus, codec, media player...)) Why not KDE???? too powerfull.. excelent, consumes more resources, must get an written permission for QT (the lawers said...). Too complicated for the users.... the users just want to ckick and go... That is the project... it was 2 years of negotiation... of course "THEY" tried to do the same... but after 2 years... the project specification remains the same... Another good candidate is Arch Linux... but have some problems with the media play... (totem xine zoom does not work, and the openoffice in native language have some problems, kernel version and internals change too soon... the kernel schedule does not compare to FreeBSD7_ULE... so sometimes the media play "chokes" at heavy load... but is a good candidade)... With the $$$$ earn in the project... some of them will be inject in FreeBSD to make some things work (flash player, buggy bios...). Must have $$$ to teach people to program in gnome/gtk... this will generate JOBS.. if one in 100 produce something in some time we will have a "new softwre company"... The first buyer??? the govern... The ideia is to theach the children for no need to punish the men... Thanks for reading.... Sergio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 15:30:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480C9106568D for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:30:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.10.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8EF8FC28 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:30:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from westmark (westmark.nagual.nl [192.168.11.22]) by nagual.nl (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/yanta) with ESMTP id m58FV7sp018669 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:31:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:30:24 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080608173024.00005cfa@westmark> In-Reply-To: <20080608162456.1c4949bc@fabiankeil.de> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608162456.1c4949bc@fabiankeil.de> Organization: de nagual X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-pc-solaris2.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 192.168.11.35 Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:30:39 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:24:56 +0200 Fabian Keil wrote: > On a system with an Athlon 1700+ and only 512 MB of RAM, > receiving snapshots on OpenSolaris renders the GUI pretty > much useless. > Note that the system is below Sun's recommended specifications > for ZFS, though. Things may look differently on more powerful > systems. The -bare- minimum for OpenSolaris is 512MB. That's not only for ZFS. In my experience ZFS on solaris is rock solid. OpenSolaris is not yet ready for production servers though i.m.h.o. nor is nevada_b90 with the ability to boot off ZFS root. Production servers need to be well (no thoroughly) tested ;-) The best stable (production) server with ZFS is solaris-10u5 If you want to boot off ZFS, S10u6 will support that. But these versions too need lots of ram. I think fbsd has a lighter footprint. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 15:39:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7310F10656BF for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: from mail.phantombsd.org (mail.phantombsd.org [74.94.69.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E1D8FC13 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from casey@phantombsd.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.phantombsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E596211A0003 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 08:39:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.399 tagged_above=-10 required=4 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.phantombsd.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.phantombsd.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9WnUtoAZQUXc for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 08:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.phantombsd.org (tomcat.phantombsd.org [192.168.1.2]) by mail.phantombsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D6A11A0002 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 08:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 08:39:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Casey Scott To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <7855895.01212939550725.JavaMail.root@tomcat.phantombsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [192.168.1.6] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.5_GA_2201.RHEL5 (ZimbraWebClient - FF2.0 (Win)/5.0.5_GA_2201.RHEL5) Subject: irq storm detected on internal NIC since 7.0 upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:39:14 -0000 The servers internal NIC is a Intel 1000 Gigabit card, using the em0 driver. I never had an issue with it w/ the 5.x or 6x series or freebsd, so I suspect a buggy driver in 7.0 /var/log/messages contains spams of these messages: kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq19:"; throttling interrupt source Anyone else experiencing this issue? Casey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 15:46:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF34106566B for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:46:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-142.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-142.bluehost.com [67.222.38.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D79748FC17 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:46:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 20371 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jun 2008 15:46:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 8 Jun 2008 15:46:03 -0000 Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K5N5m-00050M-Qg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 09:46:03 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:41:46 -0600 Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:41:46 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080608154146.GA3547@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <17709547.post@talk.nabble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <17709547.post@talk.nabble.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} DomainKey-Status: no signature Subject: Re: wireless help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:46:05 -0000 --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 07:38:38AM -0700, erpa1119 wrote: >=20 > I am completely new to linux and need help with wireless connectivity.=20 > I have installed freebsd 6.3-RELEASE=20 Technically, FreeBSD is not Linux. The Unix family tree looks something like the following (greatly simplified): Bell Labs Unix | ---------------- | | BSD Unix SysV Unix | | | | FreeBSD Solaris Linux Linux is way over to the right by itself because it doesn't really have any "genetic" relation to the others. FreeBSD doesn't share any original "genetic" material with the SysV line, either, but that's basically because it "evolved" to that point -- whereas Linux was created from scratch to emulate (mostly SysV) Unix functionality. There's a lot in common between most Linux distributions and most FreeBSD installs, but that's in large part because of the plethora of open source applications that can be installed on both, and because the two are both tied to a sort of Unix "tradition" of OS design. It's not so much because of any actual family relation, per se. Sorry if this seems somewhat off the topic of what you're asking. I'm just trying to be informative. A better way to phrase your original sentence would have been something like "I am completely new to Unix-like systems and need help with wireless connectivity." >=20 > I have a toshiba satellite 1005-s157 with a dlink gs630 pcmcia card=20 > and a linksys wr54g wireless router.=20 > ifconfig shows status: associated but I cannot ping anything other=20 > than the static IP address that I gave to the wireless card.=20 >=20 > The card is known working, the AP is known working.=20 > I do not have DHCP running on the AP and simply assign IP's to all of=20 > my boxes when I first bring them online.=20 >=20 > topology:=20 > wall-->bellsouth router-->linksys AP=20 > linksys has a static IP of 192.168.1.3=20 > bellsouth router has a static IP of 192.168.1.254=20 >=20 > I have added a default route by running the following.=20 > route add default 192.168.1.254=20 Is the Linksys access point a router? Is it running NAT? Your FreeBSD system might effectively be tucked away in a subnet, which could possibly account for (some of?) your problems. >=20 > I also ran this=20 > ifconfig ath0 ssid "MYAPNAMEHERE" wepmode on weptxkey "MYPASSPHRASE"=20 >=20 > ifconfig ath0 list scan shows the AP that I am trying to connect=20 > through and shows CAPS of EP only.=20 >=20 > The Question is:=20 > How am I associated with the AP but cannot ping anything other than=20 > localhost, 127.0.0.1 and the static IP address that I gave the card?=20 Does this mean you can't ping the Linksys access point? Is the access point configured to ignore pings? >=20 > All pings except to localhost or 127 or my static ip result in a host=20 > down message=20 >=20 > contents of /etc/resolv.conf=20 >=20 >=20 > search .=20 > nameserver 205.xxx.xxx.xxx=20 > nameserver 205.xxx.xxx.xxx=20 > nameserver 205.xxx.xxx.xxx You probably don't need three copies of the same line -- or are those three different IP addresses that you've Xed out? Is the period after "search" what's actually in the file, or did you elide some of the contents of that line? Sorry if I'm not as useful as I should be -- I still haven't fully woken up, and may miss something obvious. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Paul Graham: "SUVs are gross because they're the solution to a gross problem. (How to make minivans look more masculine.)" --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhL/boACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWzywCgrpkRzAaoWeTHh9FA4FoH4hLg RV8AoO/fwNAPMoctgV63qhCEtkC2RPhW =V6ZK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 15:53:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A9B106567F for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:53:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029DE8FC1A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:53:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K5NCr-0003dB-8O; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:53:21 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m58FrKqv007875; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:53:20 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 60E9FFCA4AF; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:53:15 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:53:15 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Kemian Dang Message-ID: <20080608155315.GA91631@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Kemian Dang , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <82f916c90806080741n70af2fbew7bb1aaa410847a60@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <82f916c90806080741n70af2fbew7bb1aaa410847a60@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:53:20 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT]Change font for aterm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:53:26 -0000 On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:41:53PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote: > > Dear All, > > I used to use Bitstream Vera Sans Mono in Gnome-terminal, by change > the configure in the menu. > Now I am using aterm, but I also want to use that font. > > I can see it by fc-list: > > [3:39pm:kemian] ~> fc-list | grep "Sans Mono" > Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold > Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Oblique > Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold Oblique > Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman > > I add entry in .Xresources: > > Aterm*font: xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman Use: Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream\ vera\ sans\ mono-medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15 in ~/.Xdefaults (all on one line). Then: $ xrdb -load The size of the font can be varied by changing the 16 in that line. $ xlsfonts | less gives you the names of the fonts you can use. > > But run the aterm give me: > > aterm: can't load font "xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman" > > Could anyone give me a clue on how to change the font of aterm? > > -- > Best wishes, > Kemian Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 16:01:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57074106567F for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17098FC19 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:01:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 7670999; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:01:32 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 7670997; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:01:18 -0400 Message-ID: <484C024D.9070001@radel.com> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:01:17 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <56297.82.95.198.17.1212870050.squirrel@webmail.superhero.nl> <484BBC23.90505@radel.com> <20080608140911.S40202@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080608140911.S40202@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms060706020702050301020109" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: "Gelsema, P \(Patrick\) - FreeBSD" , freebsd questions Subject: Re: NFE setting manually to 1000baseT and half duplex X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:01:33 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms060706020702050301020109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> Even if you do have hardware that supports half-duplex gigabit ethernet >> on both ends, the need to do carrier extension for any frame shorter >> than 512 bytes so that CSMA/CD actually works on a reasonable sized >> cable, does horrible things to your throughput if you've got lots of >> small frames. (In other words, at gigabit speeds, frames smaller than >> 512 bytes zip down the wire so quickly that you can no longer reliably >> detect collisions, so the frames all get padded.) I'm having trouble >> wrapping my head around any circumstances other than horribly, >> horribly broken hardware or software where half-duplex would increase >> your performance over full-duplex. > > actually there are no gigabit devices incapable of full-duplex. I would certainly hope so; I can't see much of a market for gigabit ethernet devices that can't do full-duplex. (I'm a touch confused, however, by your phrasing that as if you're rebutting something I wrote.) --Jon Radel --------------ms060706020702050301020109 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJMTCC AvMwggJcoAMCAQICEG2TkfF/93Sx9LCftry1D3YwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA4MDMyNDE2NTkyMVoX DTA5MDMyNDE2NTkyMVowXjEOMAwGA1UEBBMFUmFkZWwxEzARBgNVBCoTCkpvbiBUaG9tYXMx GTAXBgNVBAMTEEpvbiBUaG9tYXMgUmFkZWwxHDAaBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWDWpvbkByYWRlbC5j b20wggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDPdCxQufreHHDAI9YN2axx87Rf 0TK1PYFMlJHi4y1ebdAMPqR6M44bz+3m8YnKn1bmIf7dWyisWyAIQYCOhW/2r66o4MdF9qJ9 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(fe2.corp.adobe.com [10.8.192.72]) by inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id m58G20I0021875 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from namail2.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.192.64]) by fe2.corp.adobe.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:02:00 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:01:58 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <484BE376.9050301@webrz.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Make buildworld Thread-Index: AcjJbqlltu+JHC1OQe2wzNCx2ip7HAAEjQYQ References: <484BE376.9050301@webrz.net> From: "Tobias Hoellrich" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2008 16:02:00.0776 (UTC) FILETIME=[FC687480:01C8C980] Subject: RE: Make buildworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:02:08 -0000 $ man make ... -j max_jobs Specify the maximum number of jobs that make may have running at any one time. Turns compatibility mode off, unless the -B flag is also specified.=20 HTH - Tobias > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jos=20 > Chrispijn > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:50 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Make buildworld >=20 > Can someone tell me the difference between 'make -j2 buildworld' and=20 > 'make -j4 buildworld' ? >=20 > Thanks, > Jos > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 16:20:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252971065676 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:20:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C922C8FC15 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3CFFD067; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:20:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7CAFD061; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:20:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484C06B8.80504@webrz.net> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:20:08 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Schiz0 , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8d23ec860806050915k2acd6b4byd9382260dbc96235@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8d23ec860806050915k2acd6b4byd9382260dbc96235@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Cc: Subject: Re: Upgrading Kernel on a Remote Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:20:09 -0000 Schiz0 wrote: > The host is installing 6.3-RELEASE. I'd like to upgrade to > 7.0-RELEASE, as well as compile in some kernel options for various > things. What's the best way to do this on a remote system, minimizing > compiling a bad kernel and causing it not to boot? I wouldn't have > access to single user mode or anything. > Just have a look to this URL; I allready read that this works flawless: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-freebsd-server-upgrades/ Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 16:41:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE791065674 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:41:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10268FC19 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2151780rvf.43 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 09:41:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Or0xQ+HFNH8IKNvu2rvkCTMEIrth/b4wYDsMbjP3VcA=; b=CP2izIT9oafrA5V4w9g3VMc66p/DUztmKWRlQZtWwdifYfFZcuuaQGv0c6D96OXprF p1DMAcG+y00k1YKp+d5qVNWHLati7FeyPpEl+alY3nyJOq7blEg5cVitLnMqiwaWVST6 LfOdpVxdmO02HHDjeYLOTx3HIIahq/rkVusjI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=sDxSpItzGdq3GOabOoTKugangCV/moCt4UYsmQFSbrnkWLGdATIDUs3TIER5BFbQiW JJGUtLF7rVNtK5M1ls8pGdNmCVX3rsfFv72nPhmtm8NklheqW15S31qiA5UY0pECoinE AGqJQ65HeZ5EJ5gNnhDJQG/E9G6YPf9cp3gfo= Received: by 10.140.141.15 with SMTP id o15mr1461542rvd.219.1212943276736; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 09:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.186.2 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <11167f520806080941p129478fcja5069da164e437c6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:41:16 -0500 From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: "Lars Eighner" In-Reply-To: <20080608062921.A45721@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> <11167f520806071333r7d51192at3bdcc5e63cb6766@mail.gmail.com> <20080608062921.A45721@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Derek Graham , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:41:17 -0000 > That worked like a charm, but Adobe Reader 8.12 not only crashes the > browser, but also wine and X. So now I have wine firefox which can handle > Flash 9, but crashes on pdfs and linux-firefox which handles pdfs, but > crashes on Flash. > What version of wine are you using? I believe they fixed that in wine recently Sam Fourman Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 17:06:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D5E106566B for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D922B8FC14 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1649048wfg.7 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 10:06:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=e5KclEl+Wz1DaKyly12iX5/FOQvomOpZ0JjFdHSKMuk=; b=FzLVh+N3LeSFN7uWAT5ClK2/gSRCIuxWrXclos0gA9onfzfARG6WwtepSkCl5oXTsq AE0ae4O04ZfWchXW/d1pmbZYNq8RSKS7DDlTg8wKEGyUwUtb/f9HsP4P2lVfDKBUgsgn /+g9v1bIr8MrEwusLqB9elII7lzmO5cApjIA4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=omhz92XDPqpcQwxxxV2oQ/SfDw2qiZspw64y9vjH6cej1naowRc3moadzoVJEiBE4H CZuEbCU9CuCcmwpjTECcFqjddJ83DUU/UGOAmONhZR+dHzfkiw7SSoDJt9C7GSuARAUy FRj/w0yIVxEm+1Kka1fPMEJRGFcdhFn0sauO0= Received: by 10.142.162.5 with SMTP id k5mr1023261wfe.145.1212944798625; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 10:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.140.17 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 10:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <82f916c90806081006s6d16e8f6ve1557a2acd41c670@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:06:38 +0100 From: "Kemian Dang" To: "Frank Shute" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080608155315.GA91631@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <82f916c90806080741n70af2fbew7bb1aaa410847a60@mail.gmail.com> <20080608155315.GA91631@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Cc: Subject: Re: [OT]Change font for aterm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:06:39 -0000 2008/6/8 Frank Shute : > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:41:53PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote: >> >> Dear All, >> >> I used to use Bitstream Vera Sans Mono in Gnome-terminal, by change >> the configure in the menu. >> Now I am using aterm, but I also want to use that font. >> >> I can see it by fc-list: >> >> [3:39pm:kemian] ~> fc-list | grep "Sans Mono" >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Oblique >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold Oblique >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman >> >> I add entry in .Xresources: >> >> Aterm*font: xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman > > Use: > > Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream\ vera\ sans\ mono-medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15 > > in ~/.Xdefaults (all on one line). > aterm still complain can not find this font. > Then: > > $ xrdb -load This command did not give any output, it held there and nothing happened. I have to Ctrl+C to stop it. > > The size of the font can be varied by changing the 16 in that line. > > $ xlsfonts | less This did not give the output of "bitstream vera sans mono". > > gives you the names of the fonts you can use. > >> >> But run the aterm give me: >> >> aterm: can't load font "xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman" >> >> Could anyone give me a clue on how to change the font of aterm? >> >> -- >> Best wishes, >> Kemian > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > So, any ideas. -- Best wishes, Kemian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 17:52:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0093106566B for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:52:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E3A8FC18 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K5P3m-0000xQ-8A; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:52:06 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m58Hq5PY001742; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:52:05 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8565BFCA4AF; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:52:00 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:52:00 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Kemian Dang Message-ID: <20080608175200.GB91631@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Kemian Dang , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <82f916c90806080741n70af2fbew7bb1aaa410847a60@mail.gmail.com> <20080608155315.GA91631@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <82f916c90806081006s6d16e8f6ve1557a2acd41c670@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <82f916c90806081006s6d16e8f6ve1557a2acd41c670@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:52:06 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT]Change font for aterm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:52:08 -0000 On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 06:06:38PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote: > > 2008/6/8 Frank Shute : > > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:41:53PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote: > >> > >> Dear All, > >> > >> I used to use Bitstream Vera Sans Mono in Gnome-terminal, by change > >> the configure in the menu. > >> Now I am using aterm, but I also want to use that font. > >> > >> I can see it by fc-list: > >> > >> [3:39pm:kemian] ~> fc-list | grep "Sans Mono" > >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold > >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Oblique > >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold Oblique > >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman > >> > >> I add entry in .Xresources: > >> > >> Aterm*font: xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman > > > > Use: > > > > Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream\ vera\ sans\ mono-medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15 > > > > in ~/.Xdefaults (all on one line). > > > > aterm still complain can not find this font. > > > Then: > > > > $ xrdb -load Sorry. should have been: $ xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults > > This command did not give any output, it held there and nothing happened. > I have to Ctrl+C to stop it. > > > > > The size of the font can be varied by changing the 16 in that line. > > > > $ xlsfonts | less > > This did not give the output of "bitstream vera sans mono". Does the dir /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/ exist? If not you have to install: x11-fonts/bitstream-vera and follow the instructions to change your xorg.conf and then restart X. If it exists, you have to add the dir to xorg.conf like so: FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/" under the "Files" section. Restart X. X should read ~/.Xdefaults on start up & your font will be used for aterm. xlsfonts should also now list the bitstream vera fonts. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 18:01:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DC01065673 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:01:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hagge1983@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74768FC15 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:01:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hagge1983@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1663596wfg.7 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:01:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=MtqlWlbiDjkXYtlQBHrfDPI5RNBZamKycT27xsD0qdo=; b=PT3u02Y3FJSNDeZ0nvBvlFkHKoP9iBTtvK5jLa/vJY56M04ZcYH23vp7hEh9Oo+uc7 xQkaulWSsRelp6z74NprcFiiFie7nD6S4dYax67VcnEmPJmnvs02bgSdXcRnZHpy2pMa fje8iW3kKtidWPy2n8VoK4LqbVrFTn8HrOqVA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=o/G3gl3rj6fT8bOqf84bh43TAoT1VK5eRmIm6ixOL1THtJZYr46XUPY0bJaK5OHvUP o9mUNWp3x1VbkDeotho9ikE3jkoMfY5lmqd34o4tNh8eVJGlWGq+pc+Pg3Daty5Jivhp vohT3pxUWTmtH7YA85Pytr/A3bpBf69CscB4A= Received: by 10.142.135.16 with SMTP id i16mr1039844wfd.144.1212948089364; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.169.6 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1a5a68400806081101n4c97746doc7e12e0914728902@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:01:29 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_H=E4ggstr=F6m?=" Sender: hagge1983@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1a5a68400806081100y212bff67u6762e430f0218d36@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608162456.1c4949bc@fabiankeil.de> <20080608173024.00005cfa@westmark> <1a5a68400806081100y212bff67u6762e430f0218d36@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: c468eb73822082d4 Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:01:30 -0000 Thanks for the quick answers! 2008/6/8 Fabian Keil : > Just in case you assume that ZFS on OpenSolaris 2008.05 > would be superior to ZFS on FreeBSD, this hasn't been my > experience. Yes, I assumed that because Sun can implement and optimize ZFS to fit OpenSolaris, while we run the risk with FreeBSD to implement bugs while we implement ZFS. 2008/6/8 Dick Hoogendijk : > The best stable (production) server with ZFS is solaris-10u5 > If you want to boot off ZFS, S10u6 will support that. > > But these versions too need lots of ram. I think fbsd has a lighter > footprint. As you might have read, I have quite a lot of RAM available on this server (4GB), but ofcource I want the operating system to take as little as possible so that I have as much RAM as possible over for the server processes to work with (mostly web-server and mysql-server). According to a page I have found it says that some basic (FreeBSD-specific) functions are not ready, how does that affect ZFS in general? http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFS Regards Anders From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 18:11:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA691065673 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brennanma@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B108C8FC18 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brennanma@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so448995ana.13 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:11:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=nKo30l/d8lMu4XG/iaMCWmcxik8ESPdEema/rAbhgrk=; b=Srs2hRrq5XSleDGb6fj2PcAE8UQeenkDXsszQZ+dhXpkcDd2NmJg/dtjw8gfC90PxB abQlPadMSpr0mK3cFnFD4mVyyU3/Av8Ym4eZHUnpnxKeXrwzJVnua6ba7uxbBrrx7NMm KrVnPKgqStsF/9+38Xjk/HxI6/KfIF2MFjDIs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=WG0HjDNren8nQMXdhxB+OFaUfB/LTrT8IR6eFiJBFJa9fUAE4wv0XgURpIM6skvicd HA93ftxixnDptMNJRM/gGlVs+KYXa4Z+ce1SJOwhzhZ4zZofHJbTWdc3dwHxz1o9Tzwl v8AvEUKltvFhLfAM7lG4MvQYT2YeLulkeC/k4= Received: by 10.100.33.13 with SMTP id g13mr2536680ang.96.1212948674721; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.142.17 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1c01b5070806081111u41251f7et9063008775ae1676@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:11:14 -0400 From: "Matt Brennan" To: "Svein Halvor Halvorsen" In-Reply-To: <484BEC67.2040500@lvor.halvorsen.cc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <484BEC67.2040500@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Help with default route X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:11:16 -0000 Well, I can't be sure without seeing your entire routing table, but I would bet you need to do something more like this: route add -net 10.0.0.0/24 -iface ipw0 route add default 10.0.0.1 (or maybe route add default gw 10.0.0.1) If that doesn't work try giving us the output from your routing table (netstat -rn). -Matt On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > Hi! > > I usually use the wired network at home, in which everything gets > configured automatically as soon as I attach the cable to my network > card. > > However, when using the wireless network, I need to run > > # route add default -iface ipw0 > > This will give me a route to the gateway (10.0.0.1), and I can ping > the gateway, as well as other machines on our local network. But if > I try to connect to anything outside of 10/24, I get a "no route to > host" error. If I manually add a route, with > > # route add x.y.z.t 10.0.0.1 > > I can connect to that host. If I change my default route to anything > but "-iface ipw0" I cannot connect to the gateway (10.0.0.1). I > cannot keep adding routes to all hosts I need to connect to. > > I've solved the problem for web usage, by running a proxy on another > machine on the local network (that's reachable) > > > What am I doing wrong? > I don't think I have a thorough understanding of network routes. > > > Svein Halvor > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 18:56:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6421065680 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:56:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.78.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6252C8FC1A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:56:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8389028459; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:56:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 5E7381CC27; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:56:52 -0400 (EDT) To: Georgi Tyuliev References: <48497315.5020804@bas.bg> <20080607031531.GA84969@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:56:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20080607031531.GA84969@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> (Frank Shute's message of "Sat\, 7 Jun 2008 04\:15\:31 +0100") Message-ID: <44hcc37o23.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: change the file date and time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:56:58 -0000 Frank Shute writes: > If you're lucky, the jpg's will contain exif info which if the > phone's time & date is set will tell you when the picture was taken > amongst other things. > > This is more reliable than depending on file date. > > Here's a quick & dirty perl script (called picinfo) that I used to get > this data (modify at your will): I would recommend graphics/jhead. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 19:11:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1A51065670 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 19:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A678FC12 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 19:10:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so917206ywe.13 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:10:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Psnh4qD9J02e0Z4LiCfWwlgI1ddB0uRzsK7hwdolmlw=; b=EzY7yVDbl0/wJncuTKJhL7kKiaD2su9aDQQLefMcfOVsvKjl0rg4cJDxkYJ9A4D8qO mB8gK34Bgb5JFQW8CyH+YviW5M65fyH8ccrBbE2lu7R56U6y9egRPtsyd25iu2kfJda4 KZy6WRjUYtubb8rTP4cnOp3FVX3kYbAS6V1og= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=e33s7tkw1v78L9kSKsBy233KifG1FrRmBW9aMQQJpxkBoH8pr7PQevS+9Z5D7ICWZ5 BS8YMCEFvTtbVYtB2UJZqAY7b1gHV1zwO73d82suczj1GtUSAmijFUVcoqzIKScSByhb A4rj/E41iXpeue0dceeCz4ITOgV4+CWIxRaVM= Received: by 10.151.113.5 with SMTP id q5mr4740454ybm.120.1212952259059; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.155.3 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <14989d6e0806081210r6fec5a14y6473a26ba28a91f3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:10:59 +0200 From: "Christian Walther" To: "Fabian Keil" In-Reply-To: <20080608162456.1c4949bc@fabiankeil.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608162456.1c4949bc@fabiankeil.de> Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_H=E4ggstr=F6m?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:11:00 -0000 2008/6/8 Fabian Keil : > "Anders H=E4ggstr=F6m" wrote: > [...] > Just in case you assume that ZFS on OpenSolaris 2008.05 > would be superior to ZFS on FreeBSD, this hasn't been my > experience. > > On a system with an Athlon 1700+ and only 512 MB of RAM, > receiving snapshots on OpenSolaris renders the GUI pretty > much useless. > > On FreeBSD ZFS operations can cause delays as well, but it's > significantly better than on OpenSolaris, even though FreeBSD's > ZFS pool lies on a geli-encrypted gmirror while OpenSolaris uses > the disk directly. > This hasn't anything to do with ZFS but on the different configuration of the clockrate. FreeBSD uses 1000 ticks, while it's 500 on Solaris. This means that FreeBSD can switch to different tasks twice as fast than Solaris. For a server a high tick rate isn't necessary, so it doesn't matter really. And Solaris still is a server OS. If you're running a desktop it makes quite a difference, of course. Interesstingly enough PC BSD configures kern.clockrate to 2000. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:02:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6319E106567A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:02:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FEC08FC17 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58K1a88009804; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:01:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m58K1Nan009801; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:01:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:01:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_H=E4ggstr=F6m?= In-Reply-To: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080608215648.Q9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:02:06 -0000 > The choice is probably between "Debian 4.0r3", "FreeBSD 7.0" and > "OpenSolaris 2008.05". All of them have their pros and cons. > could you tell any pros for opensolaris? > I think Debian / Linux, almost falls off because it lacks support for > native ZFS and I have not found any alternative filesystem that offer > checksums on the fly. agree > > My main question is: How is the support for ZFS on FreeBSD? Is it while i don't use it, it works rather as in manual. no crashes if configured right. > sufficiently stable and fast enough to be used in production yet? that's just my opinion about ZFS that it isn't very useful at all. it's just memory and CPU eater. > If not, is there any alternative filesystem that offers checksums on > the fly or other similar technology to reduce the risk of a corrupt > filesystem that at the same time plays well with software RAID (RAID-1 > in particular)? while i use RAID-1 for a long time be it linux or netbsd or freebsd, there is no need for checksumming. there are sector's checksums on disks, checked on every read. in SATA protocol there is error checking during transmission too. there is already well done things in hardware to do disk transfers without CPU overhead, but ZFS introduces overhead and advertises it as feature. quick advice - gmirror this 2 drives and then use UFS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:02:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF57106566C for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:02:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from catalin@starcomms.com) Received: from webmail.starcomms.com (starcomms.com [41.205.191.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A18BC8FC25 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:02:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from catalin@starcomms.com) Received: from (mars.starcomms.local [172.16.2.31]) by webmail.starcomms.com with smtp id 53c5_b0d3784a_3590_11dd_a173_001143cecab4; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:25:44 +0100 Received: from STA-HQ-S001.starcomms.local ([172.16.2.28]) by webmail.starcomms.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:31:10 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-cr-puzzleid: {5E6A582D-0123-4616-942C-C03716A9FC71} MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:31:11 +0100 Message-ID: <3A0AA7018522134597ED63B3B794C92A0213C690@STA-HQ-S001.starcomms.local> x-cr-hashedpuzzle: CIL2 CXxU DMG8 DYJH EGki EpY7 Eqd3 FKTV GH/E GfaL HLV2 HdfB HjVW IrO6 JsTY JtU/; 1; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {5E6A582D-0123-4616-942C-C03716A9FC71}; YwBhAHQAYQBsAGkAbgBAAHMAdABhAHIAYwBvAG0AbQBzAC4AYwBvAG0A; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:25:10 GMT; awBlAHIAbgBlAGwAIABjAHIAYQBzAGgAIABjAG8AcgBlAGQAdQBtAHAAIABoAGUAbABwAA== X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: kernel crash coredump help Thread-Index: AcjJnV3OnhF0O6C7SCuPdBjv+MGMug== From: "Catalin Miclaus" To: "FreeBSD-Questions" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2008 19:31:10.0718 (UTC) FILETIME=[34C1A1E0:01C8C99E] Subject: kernel crash coredump help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:02:46 -0000 Hi, We install a new server Dell 2950 with FreeBSD 7.0 and we've got some issues with same. Hardware: Dell 2950 Intel(R) Xeon(R) Dual CPU Quad-Core E5335 @ 2.00GHz (1995.01-MHz K8-class CPU) with 4079 MB RAM and 2 x 250GB SATA HDD. Normal server install using developer, all sources without games. Upgrade to 7.0-p1#, then recompile kernel with GENERIC + device pf device pfsync device pflog device carp options HZ=3D1000 options DEVICE_POLLING Server is running as secondary PF firewall with CARP/PFSYNC/IFSTATED. Additional services running on the server are bind, net-snmp and ssh. We have additional 7 servers running similar services with 6.2 and 7.0 FreeBSD all running fine. Later same day the server crashed. The traffic was on MASTER CARP server when crash happen, server was not under load, CPU was 0% and memory 10% from NMS reports.=20 We were able to got a crash dump: [root@fw2 FW]# kgdb kernel.debug /var/crash/vmcore.0 [GDB will not be able to debug user-mode threads: /usr/lib/libthread_db.so: Undefined symbol "ps_pglobal_lookup"] GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd". Unread portion of the kernel message buffer: <7>arp_rtrequest: bad gateway 196.3.61.14 (!AF_LINK) Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid =3D 0; apic id =3D 00 fault virtual address =3D 0xda040020 fault code =3D supervisor read data, page not present instruction pointer =3D 0x8:0xffffffff80666070 stack pointer =3D 0x10:0xffffffffac3e0650 frame pointer =3D 0x10:0xffffff00cfb42820 code segment =3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b =3D DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 processor eflags =3D interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0 current process =3D 19 (swi1: net) trap number =3D 12 panic: page fault cpuid =3D 0 Uptime: 2h10m11s Physical memory: 4079 MB Dumping 425 MB: 410 394 378 362 346 330 314 298 282 266 250 234 218 202 186 170 154 138 122 106 90 74 58 42 26 10 #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:194 194 __asm __volatile("movq %%gs:0,%0" : "=3Dr" (td)); (kgdb) list *0xffffffff80666070 0xffffffff80666070 is in uma_zfree_internal (uma_int.h:368). 363 int hval; 364 365 hval =3D UMA_HASH(hash, data); 366 367 SLIST_FOREACH(slab, &hash->uh_slab_hash[hval], us_hlink) { 368 if ((u_int8_t *)slab->us_data =3D=3D data) 369 return (slab); 370 } 371 return (NULL); 372 } (kgdb) backtrace #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:194 #1 0x0000000000000004 in ?? () #2 0xffffffff80497ea9 in boot (howto=3D260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:409 #3 0xffffffff804982ad in panic (fmt=3D0x104
) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:563 #4 0xffffffff8071ad64 in trap_fatal (frame=3D0xffffff00010e0340, eva=3D18446742974215697512) at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:724 #5 0xffffffff8071b135 in trap_pfault (frame=3D0xffffffffac3e05a0, usermode=3D0) at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:641 #6 0xffffffff8071ba78 in trap (frame=3D0xffffffffac3e05a0) at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:410 #7 0xffffffff807016de in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S:169 #8 0xffffffff80666070 in uma_zfree_internal (zone=3D0xffffff00cfb42820, item=3D0xffffff0003b2e000, udata=3D0x0, skip=3DVariable "skip" is not available.) at uma_int.h:367 #9 0xffffffff8066909b in uma_zfree_arg (zone=3D0xffffff00cfb42820, item=3D0xffffff0003b2e000, udata=3D0x0) at = /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:2405 #10 0xffffffff80665fe4 in uma_zfree_internal (zone=3D0xffffff00cfb429c0, item=3D0xffffff0003a86600, udata=3D0x0, skip=3DVariable "skip" is not available.) at /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:2434 #11 0xffffffff80666bba in bucket_drain (zone=3D0xffffff00cfb429c0, bucket=3D0xffffff0003a94830) at /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:595 #12 0xffffffff80666cab in bucket_cache_drain (zone=3D0xffffff00cfb429c0) at /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:662 #13 0xffffffff8066996b in zone_drain (zone=3D0xffffff00cfb429c0) at /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:710 #14 0xffffffff801b7f95 in pfsync_get_mbuf (sc=3D0xffffff0003573400, action=3D2 '\002', sp=3D0xffffff0003573570) at mbuf.h:529 #15 0xffffffff801b8208 in pfsync_pack_state (action=3DVariable "action" = is not available.) at /usr/src/sys/contrib/pf/net/if_pfsync.c:1512 #16 0xffffffff801ce863 in pf_test (dir=3D1, ifp=3D0xffffff000128d800, m0=3D0xffffffffac3e0a00, eh=3DVariable "eh" is not available.) at /usr/src/sys/contrib/pf/net/pf.c:6955 #17 0xffffffff801d360a in pf_check_in (arg=3DVariable "arg" is not available.) at /usr/src/sys/contrib/pf/net/pf_ioctl.c:3533 #18 0xffffffff80539561 in pfil_run_hooks (ph=3DVariable "ph" is not available.) at /usr/src/sys/net/pfil.c:78 #19 0xffffffff80574e2b in ip_input (m=3D0xffffff0036190500) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_input.c:417 #20 0xffffffff8052dee1 in ether_demux (ifp=3D0xffffff000128d800, m=3D0xffffff0036190500) at /usr/src/sys/net/if_ethersubr.c:834 #21 0xffffffff8052e181 in ether_input (ifp=3D0xffffff000128d800, m=3D0xffffff0036190500) at /usr/src/sys/net/if_ethersubr.c:692 #22 0xffffffff802d77ac in em_rxeof (adapter=3D0xffffff000122f000, count=3D119) at /usr/src/sys/dev/em/if_em.c:4542 #23 0xffffffff802d84d7 in em_poll (ifp=3D0xffffff000128d800, = cmd=3DVariable "cmd" is not available.) at /usr/src/sys/dev/em/if_em.c:1433 #24 0xffffffff8048dd8d in netisr_poll () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_poll.c:432 #25 0xffffffff80537e8a in swi_net (dummy=3DVariable "dummy" is not available.) at /usr/src/sys/net/netisr.c:254 #26 0xffffffff8047b5a0 in ithread_loop (arg=3D0xffffff00010d9b80) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_intr.c:1036 #27 0xffffffff80478673 in fork_exit (callout=3D0xffffffff8047b430 , arg=3D0xffffff00010d9b80, frame=3D0xffffffffac3e0c80) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_fork.c:781 #28 0xffffffff80701aae in fork_trampoline () at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S:415 #29 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #30 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #31 0x0000000000000001 in ?? () #32 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #33 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #34 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #35 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #36 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #37 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #38 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #39 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #40 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #41 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #42 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #43 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #44 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #45 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #46 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #47 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #48 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #49 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #50 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #51 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #52 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #53 0x0000000000c9c000 in ?? () #54 0xffffff00010e0340 in ?? () #55 0x0000000000000001 in ?? () #56 0xffffff00010f3468 in ?? () #57 0xffffff00010e0680 in ?? () #58 0xffffff00010e0340 in ?? () #59 0xffffffffac3e0b58 in ?? () #60 0xffffff00010e0340 in ?? () #61 0xffffffff804b5b69 in sched_switch (td=3D0xffffff00010d9b80, newtd=3D0xffffffff8047b430, flags=3D0) at = /usr/src/sys/kern/sched_4bsd.c:905 #62 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #63 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #64 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #65 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #66 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #67 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #68 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #69 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #70 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #71 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #72 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #73 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #74 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #75 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #76 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #77 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #78 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #79 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #80 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #81 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #82 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #83 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #84 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #85 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #86 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #87 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #88 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #89 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #90 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #91 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #92 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #93 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #94 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #95 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #96 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #97 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #98 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #99 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #100 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #101 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #102 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #103 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #104 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #105 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #106 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #107 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #108 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #109 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #110 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #111 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #112 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #113 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #114 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #115 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #116 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #117 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #118 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #119 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #120 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #121 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #122 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #123 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #124 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #125 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #126 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #127 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #128 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #129 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #130 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #131 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #132 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #133 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () Cannot access memory at address 0xffffffffac3e1000 (kgdb) Appreciate your help in identifying if this is a hardware failure or we just step on a bug. Best Regards Catalin Miclaus Network/Security ISP-Data Starcomms Ltd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:06:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369C51065672 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A958FC13 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58K5NxN009836; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:05:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m58K58Zw009832; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:05:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:05:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Fabian Keil In-Reply-To: <20080608162456.1c4949bc@fabiankeil.de> Message-ID: <20080608220207.C9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608162456.1c4949bc@fabiankeil.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Anders =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E4ggstr=F6m?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:06:40 -0000 > On a system with an Athlon 1700+ and only 512 MB of RAM, > receiving snapshots on OpenSolaris renders the GUI pretty > much useless. looks like very bad CPU and I/O scheduling on Solaris. maybe that's their 32-64 hardware threads capable chip is advertised so much? :) > > On FreeBSD ZFS operations can cause delays as well, but it's > significantly better than on OpenSolaris, even though FreeBSD's > ZFS pool lies on a geli-encrypted gmirror while OpenSolaris uses > the disk directly. there is quite big difference with geli. it is CPU eater and produces delays noticable on machines that like P3 or less. but at least - it does something useful unlike these ZFS checksumming and other things. > Note that the system is below Sun's recommended specifications > for ZFS, though. Things may look differently on more powerful > systems. but comparision probably the same, or difference less noticable on stronger systems. > > You can use geli(8) for checksumming, it can be combined with gmirror > but unless with ZFS, you don't get automatic "self-healing". whatever it means ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:09:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3771065675 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:09:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467058FC0A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:09:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58K8Bm4009860; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:08:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m58K8BUS009857; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:08:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:08:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Fabian Keil In-Reply-To: <20080608162456.1c4949bc@fabiankeil.de> Message-ID: <20080608220603.L9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608162456.1c4949bc@fabiankeil.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Anders =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E4ggstr=F6m?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:09:19 -0000 > On a system with an Athlon 1700+ and only 512 MB of RAM, > receiving snapshots on OpenSolaris renders the GUI pretty > much useless. > > On FreeBSD ZFS operations can cause delays as well, but it's > significantly better than on OpenSolaris, even though FreeBSD's > ZFS pool lies on a geli-encrypted gmirror while OpenSolaris uses > the disk directly. anyway something get changed between FreeBSD 6 and 7. as i changed this on quite loaded server from 6.3 to 7 - general throughput increased well. tasks are done much faster. on on my laptop it's the same, but interactive delays was much lower on 6.3 is it possible to turn "old mode" on FreeBSD 7. on my laptop interactive performance is more important. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:09:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9B01065690 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33EF8FC14 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:09:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58K8xPY009867; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:08:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m58K8xTi009864; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:08:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:08:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_H=E4ggstr=F6m?= In-Reply-To: <1a5a68400806081101n4c97746doc7e12e0914728902@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080608220836.T9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608162456.1c4949bc@fabiankeil.de> <20080608173024.00005cfa@westmark> <1a5a68400806081100y212bff67u6762e430f0218d36@mail.gmail.com> <1a5a68400806081101n4c97746doc7e12e0914728902@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:09:31 -0000 > As you might have read, I have quite a lot of RAM available on this > server (4GB), but ofcource I want the operating system to take as > little as possible so that I have as much RAM as possible over for the > server processes to work with (mostly web-server and mysql-server). ZFS is memory and CPU eater. prepare that very few will be left for actual work ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:10:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4671065675 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:10:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4F48FC15 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58K9gFC009892; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:09:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m58K9X89009884; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:09:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:09:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Christian Walther In-Reply-To: <14989d6e0806081210r6fec5a14y6473a26ba28a91f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080608220920.M9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608162456.1c4949bc@fabiankeil.de> <14989d6e0806081210r6fec5a14y6473a26ba28a91f3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_H=E4ggstr=F6m?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:10:41 -0000 > If you're running a desktop it makes quite a difference, of course. > Interesstingly enough PC BSD configures kern.clockrate to 2000. human can't notice delays below 10ms. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:10:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B49D1065706 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DC78FC12 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B0BFD070 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:10:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67931FD05E for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:10:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484C3CC4.7050107@webrz.net> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:10:44 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Grep Guru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:10:45 -0000 I tried to make a grep script on find a string in all files on path ./ and down. It does anything exept searching in files and reporting them. Is there a Grep Guru who can hint me out? Thanks, -- Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:12:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F6F1065677 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:12:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B848FC0A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2AF68610B21; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:12:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id HPwi+NZ336r5; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id A370D6800E985; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:12:56 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080608201256.GA28987@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484C3CC4.7050107@webrz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <484C3CC4.7050107@webrz.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Subject: Re: Grep Guru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:12:58 -0000 On Sun, Jun 08, 2008, Jos Chrispijn wrote: >I tried to make a grep script on find a string in all files on path ./ >and down. It does anything exept searching in files and reporting them. >Is there a Grep Guru who can hint me out? Thanks, I expect you need something like: find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep pattern Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 We maintain that the very foundation of our way of life is what we call free enterprise, said Cash McCall, "but when one of our citizens show enough free enterprise to pile up a little of that profit, we do our best to make him feel that he ought to be ashamed of himself." -- Cameron Hawley From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:13:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0276E1065671 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:13:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jack@jarasoft.net) Received: from zeus.jarasoft.nl (zeus.jarasoft.nl [72.36.229.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFFED8FC22 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:13:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jack@jarasoft.net) Received: from zeus.jarasoft.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.jarasoft.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3A739B64 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:02:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from www.jarasoft.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.jarasoft.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9227739890 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:02:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 82.95.230.43 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jack) by www.jarasoft.nl with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:02:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:02:02 +0200 (CEST) From: "Jack Raats" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: mergemaster problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jack@jarasoft.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:13:46 -0000 after upgrade 6.3 to 7.0 mergemaster didn't do the job properly After a normal reboot I get a lot of Warnings like /etc/rc: WARNING: $variable_enable is not set properly - see rc.conf(5) HOw to solve this problem??? Thanks Jack From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:15:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97F1106564A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FCB8FC2C for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:15:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58KFoTw009992; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:15:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m58KFocr009989; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:15:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:15:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jos Chrispijn In-Reply-To: <484C3CC4.7050107@webrz.net> Message-ID: <20080608221328.U9955@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484C3CC4.7050107@webrz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Grep Guru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:15:56 -0000 > I tried to make a grep script on find a string in all files on path ./ and > down. It does anything exept searching in files and reporting them. > Is there a Grep Guru who can hint me out? Thanks, find . -type f -print0|xargs -0 grep anyway it's nothing about being Grep Guru, or Find Guru but it's really worth to be Man Guru :) man find man xargs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:17:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82481065675 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:17:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4868FC1A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:17:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id D8F3916B5B5; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:17:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.90]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D4DB316B5A9; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:17:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:14:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:14:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: "Sam Fourman Jr." In-Reply-To: <11167f520806080941p129478fcja5069da164e437c6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080608151355.O47971@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> <11167f520806071333r7d51192at3bdcc5e63cb6766@mail.gmail.com> <20080608062921.A45721@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <11167f520806080941p129478fcja5069da164e437c6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.4 required=10.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,OACYS_SINGLE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02 version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Derek Graham , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:17:34 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jun 2008, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: >> That worked like a charm, but Adobe Reader 8.12 not only crashes the >> browser, but also wine and X. So now I have wine firefox which can handle >> Flash 9, but crashes on pdfs and linux-firefox which handles pdfs, but >> crashes on Flash. >> > > What version of wine are you using? I believe they fixed that in wine > recently The current port which is 1.0-rc3 according to the (port) Makefile. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:18:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F7B106564A; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF148FC19; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:18:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58KIO9U010016; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:18:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m58KIGKA010009; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:18:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:18:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Unga In-Reply-To: <520110.33662.qm@web57009.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080608221622.R9955@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <520110.33662.qm@web57009.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: What consists FreeBSD Libc? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:18:48 -0000 > Its great to get it confirmed that FreeBSD Libc is only /usr/src/lib/libc/* as I presumed. > > I have compiled and installed the FreeBSD Libc into a temp directory. The size of /tmp/libc.so.7 is about 65,000 bytes smaller than /lib/libc.so.7. > > The /lib/libc.so.7 is dated May 25, 2008. I did not touch CFLAGS or anything other than DESTDIR. But I really forgot, the gcc version is different. The /lib/libc.so.7 is by gcc 4.2.1, but the /tmp/libc.so.7 is by gcc 4.3.0. May be the code generation of the latest gcc may be better. indeed it is better. while difference between gcc 3.* and 4.* is HUGE in respect of code size. after i upgraded to FreeBSD 7 from 6.3 (so gcc got upgraded to 4.*) i recompiled bash. same version, >20% smaller! finally gcc turned to rule "small code=fast code", always true on processors with at least 1 level of cache, not mentioning 2 or 3 cache levels :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:20:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED1B1065681 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:20:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EB78FC12 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:20:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from Macintosh-96.local (nat-service4.juniper.net [66.129.225.151]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58KKtiI064022 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:20:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <484C3F1C.30108@enabled.com> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:20:44 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: stunnel: warning: can't get client address: Bad file descriptor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:20:55 -0000 Just upgraded stunnel and getting the following error message in the /var/log/messages file. any clues? ---- snip --- Jun 8 13:17:04 stunnel: warning: can't get client address: Bad file descriptor Jun 8 13:17:34 last message repeated 530400 times Jun 8 13:18:00 last message repeated 488687 times ---- snip --- --- configuration ------- # cat /usr/local/etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf # Sample stunnel configuration file # Copyright by Michal Trojnara 2002 # Comment it out on Win32 cert = /usr/local/etc/stunnel/mail.pem chroot = /var/run/stunnel #chroot = /var/run # PID is created inside chroot jail pid = /stunnel.pid setuid = stunnel setgid = stunnel # grep stunnel /etc/rc.conf stunnel_enable="YES" # cat /usr/local/etc/rc.d/stunnel #!/bin/sh # # $FreeBSD: ports/security/stunnel/files/stunnel.in,v 1.9 2008/01/26 14:18:12 roam Exp $ # # PROVIDE: stunnel # REQUIRE: NETWORKING SERVERS # BEFORE: DAEMON # KEYWORD: shutdown # # Add some of the following variables to /etc/rc.conf to configure stunnel: # stunnel_enable (bool): Set to "NO" by default. # Set it to "YES" to enable stunnel. # stunnel_config (str): Default "/usr/local/etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf" # Set it to the full path to the config file # that stunnel will use during the automated # start-up. # stunnel_pidfile (str): Default "/usr/local/var/stunnel/stunnel.pid" # Set it to the value of 'pid' in # the stunnel.conf file. # . /etc/rc.subr name="stunnel" rcvar=`set_rcvar` load_rc_config $name : ${stunnel_enable="NO"} : ${stunnel_config="/usr/local/etc/stunnel/${name}.conf"} : ${stunnel_pidfile="/var/run/stunnel/${name}.pid"} command="/usr/local/bin/stunnel" command_args=${stunnel_config} pidfile=${stunnel_pidfile} required_files="${stunnel_config}" run_rc_command "$1" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:23:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962C61065676 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:23:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from urandomdev@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1758E8FC16 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:23:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from urandomdev@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1532598fgb.35 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:23:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type; bh=Pb2zPYBeh4bzUzl4dk4jR6dLw0I3Akplx/aq5zFrWYs=; b=cKsUJVJx1+oaOEwLOwkMjpNMoOU2ytDuVqPEkR7thIFfKf8/hEvcpuXkRdKfkfWEIW /UsHxYninIV6n4rQLW8KXZH8BreoYspLz28t4gZ0WhtsVHtTLb55JajqUiKJNMR3brjl 3sWh9G8OUsvtMJjA8GuRgCAzTkynKHc253FiY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=x+Y9XhEzoy0eo3MnPR/RLZe8vWC0RTg8mNLDvy/avyCzCjnZ7i7qEnb/5bRPNPftFz tMNvzAswPEpWxpS5KBLnr5nAAcLJ2daU4sQbjEdtr+wFGCI2A1606INKdW1DeR3sarzO 13U1uQFGDBN+6dLfgnIqCd4FNc1brKV7hK5Ws= Received: by 10.86.99.9 with SMTP id w9mr3329781fgb.70.1212956604989; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.111.114? ( [84.75.166.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm10514914fge.3.2008.06.08.13.23.23 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <484C3FB7.4080208@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:23:19 +0200 From: Simon Jolle sjolle User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484C3CC4.7050107@webrz.net> <20080608201256.GA28987@ayn.mi.celestial.com> In-Reply-To: <20080608201256.GA28987@ayn.mi.celestial.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF6BF07FD332E182CA1403C88" Subject: Re: Grep Guru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:23:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF6BF07FD332E182CA1403C88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/08/2008 10:12 PM, Bill Campbell wrote: > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008, Jos Chrispijn wrote: >> I tried to make a grep script on find a string in all files on path ./= =20 >> and down. It does anything exept searching in files and reporting them= =2E >> Is there a Grep Guru who can hint me out? Thanks, >=20 > I expect you need something like: >=20 > find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep pattern Or install the GNU grep (from the man) -R, -r, --recursive Read all files under each directory, recursively; this is equivalent to the -d recurse option. > Bill cheers Simon --------------enigF6BF07FD332E182CA1403C88 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFITD+3EMN/lNE/wrwRAlLuAJ4phQWJXI/qioR3AdfwKQSIwA1xjwCeIk6/ 6Becq3RjtPx7z4vh3TDtmEI= =M3HT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF6BF07FD332E182CA1403C88-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:26:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB481065679 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:26:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81E88FC14 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:26:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58KQj1c013574; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:26:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.5.5 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m58KQj1c013574 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1212956812; bh=S6cO95VgmU34B1 NUqkBc/TyZXrvkvWkA7jepxuth6U8=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<484C4076.3040804@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sun,=2 008=20Jun=202008=2021:26:30=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080607)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Simon=20Jolle=20sjolle=20|CC:=20free bsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Grep=20Guru|References:= 20<484C3CC4.7050107@webrz.net>=09<20080608201256.GA28987@ayn.mi.cel estial.com>=20<484C3FB7.4080208@gmail.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<484C3FB7 .4080208@gmail.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20mu ltipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"appl ication/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig2279F 8F9ECFE6F32EB2E7DA1"; b=iyYomPwd+4+D9bqufLmkzoeKONrYXwp4nwkiOtC8vue jBrJA4BZRJbTQK3brtqFZpUCCU1QbTNSDpFjEQOnfrL89+HpENb+XUIMGrNYZMG/hX1 bgzAbpEU0GkWq3tl2XSg99Q+mSj9lnsMYUNCGidVsDEExJuEJX0UGph9+16ug= Message-ID: <484C4076.3040804@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:26:30 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Jolle sjolle References: <484C3CC4.7050107@webrz.net> <20080608201256.GA28987@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <484C3FB7.4080208@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <484C3FB7.4080208@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2279F8F9ECFE6F32EB2E7DA1" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:26:52 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93, clamav-milter version 0.93 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Grep Guru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:26:58 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2279F8F9ECFE6F32EB2E7DA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: > On 06/08/2008 10:12 PM, Bill Campbell wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 08, 2008, Jos Chrispijn wrote: >>> I tried to make a grep script on find a string in all files on path .= /=20 >>> and down. It does anything exept searching in files and reporting the= m. >>> Is there a Grep Guru who can hint me out? Thanks, >> I expect you need something like: >> >> find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep pattern >=20 > Or install the GNU grep (from the man) >=20 > -R, -r, --recursive > Read all files under each directory, recursively; this is > equivalent to the -d recurse option. The system supplied grep(1) /is/ gnu grep: happy-idiot-talk:~:% grep --version=20 grep (GNU grep) 2.5.1-FreeBSD Copyright 1988, 1992-1999, 2000, 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO= warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOS= E. grep -r works just fine. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig2279F8F9ECFE6F32EB2E7DA1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkhMQIUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIz8gwCfdKxOe8/kJ5Ou+krQ3fNQtN8P QIcAn2ySZKQl7yKbrkUOH24UPoM+BEdw =3sGY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2279F8F9ECFE6F32EB2E7DA1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:29:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E70F106567A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:29:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay07.ispgateway.de (smtprelay07.ispgateway.de [80.67.29.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66828FC1D for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from [217.50.139.218] (helo=localhost) by smtprelay07.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K5RVn-0002K5-9S; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:29:11 +0200 Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:28:52 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: "Christian Walther" Message-ID: <20080608222852.5810cd38@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: <14989d6e0806081210r6fec5a14y6473a26ba28a91f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608162456.1c4949bc@fabiankeil.de> <14989d6e0806081210r6fec5a14y6473a26ba28a91f3@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2008-08-18.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/C_iSRS1fqtsz5=cceS6DvtC"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Df-Sender: 775067 Cc: Anders =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E4ggstr=F6m?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:29:14 -0000 --Sig_/C_iSRS1fqtsz5=cceS6DvtC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Christian Walther" wrote: > 2008/6/8 Fabian Keil : > > "Anders H=E4ggstr=F6m" wrote: > > > [...] > > Just in case you assume that ZFS on OpenSolaris 2008.05 > > would be superior to ZFS on FreeBSD, this hasn't been my > > experience. > > > > On a system with an Athlon 1700+ and only 512 MB of RAM, > > receiving snapshots on OpenSolaris renders the GUI pretty > > much useless. > > > > On FreeBSD ZFS operations can cause delays as well, but it's > > significantly better than on OpenSolaris, even though FreeBSD's > > ZFS pool lies on a geli-encrypted gmirror while OpenSolaris uses > > the disk directly. > > > This hasn't anything to do with ZFS but on the different configuration > of the clockrate. FreeBSD uses 1000 ticks, while it's 500 on Solaris. With OpenSolaris 2008.05 the GUI becomes unresponsive for multiple-seconds on my system, and it's not clear to me how the clock rate difference would explain that. Fabian --Sig_/C_iSRS1fqtsz5=cceS6DvtC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhMQQQACgkQBYqIVf93VJ2TWACfUu7DnU+m7sYTfKf55BMdaDZj rIgAoISapsLMh1kvDLCGo/6XZ0m8eyIN =GeCW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/C_iSRS1fqtsz5=cceS6DvtC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:30:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8071065675 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:30:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DC58FC1A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:30:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from Macintosh-96.local (nat-service4.juniper.net [66.129.225.151]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58KUqL4064540 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:30:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <484C4172.1020207@enabled.com> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:30:42 -0700 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: stunnel: warning: can't get client address: Bad file descriptor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:30:53 -0000 Just upgraded stunnel and getting the following error message in the /var/log/messages file. It appears that when I restart stunnel it complains "Error binding pop3s to 0.0.0.0:995 and bind: Address already in use (48)". therefore the 995 port never becomes available during the restart. Why is that happening? She the stunel logs below. any clues? ---- snip --- Jun 8 13:17:04 stunnel: warning: can't get client address: Bad file descriptor Jun 8 13:17:34 last message repeated 530400 times Jun 8 13:18:00 last message repeated 488687 times ---- snip --- ---- here is the stunnel.log ----- n# tail -n 50 -f /var/log/stunnel.log Jun 8 00:00:00 typhoon newsyslog[72831]: logfile turned over 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Snagged 64 random bytes from /root/.rnd 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Wrote 1024 new random bytes to /root/.rnd 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: RAND_status claims sufficient entropy for the PRNG 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: PRNG seeded successfully 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Certificate: /usr/local/etc/stunnel/mail.pem 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Certificate loaded 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Key file: /usr/local/etc/stunnel/mail.pem 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Private key loaded 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: SSL context initialized for service pop3s 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG5[21238:134664192]: stunnel 4.25 on i386-unknown-freebsd6.2 with OpenSSL 0.9.8h 28 May 2008 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG5[21238:134664192]: Threading:PTHREAD SSL:ENGINE Sockets:POLL,IPv6 Auth:LIBWRAP 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG6[21238:134664192]: file ulimit = 11095 (can be changed with 'ulimit -n') 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG6[21238:134664192]: poll() used - no FD_SETSIZE limit for file descriptors 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG5[21238:134664192]: 5417 clients allowed 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: FD 5 in non-blocking mode 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: FD 6 in non-blocking mode 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: FD 7 in non-blocking mode 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: SO_REUSEADDR option set on accept socket 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG3[21238:134664192]: Error binding pop3s to 0.0.0.0:995 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG3[21238:134664192]: bind: Address already in use (48) --- configuration ------- # cat /usr/local/etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf # Sample stunnel configuration file # Copyright by Michal Trojnara 2002 # Comment it out on Win32 cert = /usr/local/etc/stunnel/mail.pem chroot = /var/run/stunnel #chroot = /var/run # PID is created inside chroot jail pid = /stunnel.pid setuid = stunnel setgid = stunnel # grep stunnel /etc/rc.conf stunnel_enable="YES" # cat /usr/local/etc/rc.d/stunnel #!/bin/sh # # $FreeBSD: ports/security/stunnel/files/stunnel.in,v 1.9 2008/01/26 14:18:12 roam Exp $ # # PROVIDE: stunnel # REQUIRE: NETWORKING SERVERS # BEFORE: DAEMON # KEYWORD: shutdown # # Add some of the following variables to /etc/rc.conf to configure stunnel: # stunnel_enable (bool): Set to "NO" by default. # Set it to "YES" to enable stunnel. # stunnel_config (str): Default "/usr/local/etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf" # Set it to the full path to the config file # that stunnel will use during the automated # start-up. # stunnel_pidfile (str): Default "/usr/local/var/stunnel/stunnel.pid" # Set it to the value of 'pid' in # the stunnel.conf file. # . /etc/rc.subr name="stunnel" rcvar=`set_rcvar` load_rc_config $name : ${stunnel_enable="NO"} : ${stunnel_config="/usr/local/etc/stunnel/${name}.conf"} : ${stunnel_pidfile="/var/run/stunnel/${name}.pid"} command="/usr/local/bin/stunnel" command_args=${stunnel_config} pidfile=${stunnel_pidfile} required_files="${stunnel_config}" run_rc_command "$1" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:33:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A265D106566B for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [207.115.11.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2BB8FC13 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from [10.5.21.122] (adsl-1-197-246.bna.bellsouth.net[65.1.197.246]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with ESMTP id <20080608203351H0100baulje>; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:33:52 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.1.197.246] Message-ID: <484C422D.3080309@datapipe.com> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:33:49 -0500 From: Paul Procacci User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jos Chrispijn References: <484C3CC4.7050107@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <484C3CC4.7050107@webrz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Grep Guru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:33:52 -0000 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > I tried to make a grep script on find a string in all files on path ./ > and down. It does anything exept searching in files and reporting them. > Is there a Grep Guru who can hint me out? Thanks, > > -- Jos > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" You want it to report the files in which the string was found? grep -rl ~Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:34:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0701065677 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:34:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E138FC1A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:34:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K5Ras-0000Iw-0A; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:34:26 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m58KYPGD003973; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:34:25 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 69245FCA4AF; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:34:20 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:34:20 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Simon Jolle sjolle Message-ID: <20080608203420.GA92357@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Simon Jolle sjolle , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484C3CC4.7050107@webrz.net> <20080608201256.GA28987@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <484C3FB7.4080208@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <484C3FB7.4080208@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:34:25 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Grep Guru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:34:27 -0000 On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:23:19PM +0200, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: > > On 06/08/2008 10:12 PM, Bill Campbell wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > >> I tried to make a grep script on find a string in all files on path ./ > >> and down. It does anything exept searching in files and reporting them. > >> Is there a Grep Guru who can hint me out? Thanks, > > > > I expect you need something like: > > > > find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep pattern > > Or install the GNU grep (from the man) > > -R, -r, --recursive > Read all files under each directory, recursively; this is > equivalent to the -d recurse option. > What's gained from GNU grep? FreeBSD grep, automatically recurses in to each subdir unless given the -maxdepth option. Looks like FreeBSD grep wins (one less argument needed) ;) > > Bill > > cheers > Simon > > Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:38:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BDC1065676 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from mail.stovebolt.com (mail.stovebolt.com [66.221.101.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23868FC0C for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:38:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (cpe-24-175-90-48.tx.res.rr.com [24.175.90.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.stovebolt.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B7A4311438F for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:18:56 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:19:00 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20080608201256.GA28987@ayn.mi.celestial.com> References: <484C3CC4.7050107@webrz.net> <20080608201256.GA28987@ayn.mi.celestial.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) X-Munged-Reply-To: To reply - figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========736AC78838BAB6BF9972==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Grep Guru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:38:16 -0000 --==========736AC78838BAB6BF9972========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On June 8, 2008 1:12:56 PM -0700 Bill Campbell =20 wrote: > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008, Jos Chrispijn wrote: >> I tried to make a grep script on find a string in all files on path ./ >> and down. It does anything exept searching in files and reporting them. >> Is there a Grep Guru who can hint me out? Thanks, > > I expect you need something like: > > find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep pattern > Or just grep -r string path Paul Schmehl If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. --==========736AC78838BAB6BF9972==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:38:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6110A106566C for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:38:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129BB8FC2C for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:38:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K5RfF-0000iy-BP; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:38:57 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m58KcvHd007387; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:38:57 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D6C43FCA4AF; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:38:51 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:38:51 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Simon Jolle sjolle , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080608203851.GB92357@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Simon Jolle sjolle , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484C3CC4.7050107@webrz.net> <20080608201256.GA28987@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <484C3FB7.4080208@gmail.com> <20080608203420.GA92357@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080608203420.GA92357@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:38:57 +0100 (BST) Cc: Subject: Re: Grep Guru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:38:58 -0000 On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 09:34:20PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:23:19PM +0200, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: > > > > On 06/08/2008 10:12 PM, Bill Campbell wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > > >> I tried to make a grep script on find a string in all files on path ./ > > >> and down. It does anything exept searching in files and reporting them. > > >> Is there a Grep Guru who can hint me out? Thanks, > > > > > > I expect you need something like: > > > > > > find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep pattern > > > > Or install the GNU grep (from the man) > > > > -R, -r, --recursive > > Read all files under each directory, recursively; this is > > equivalent to the -d recurse option. > > > > What's gained from GNU grep? FreeBSD grep, automatically recurses in > to each subdir unless given the -maxdepth option. > > Looks like FreeBSD grep wins (one less argument needed) ;) Sorry, got confused between grep and xargs! > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:42:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA024106567D for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:42:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mail.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [212.204.60.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2B68FC19 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:42:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kamikaze@bsdforen.de) Received: from mobileKamikaze.norad (unknown [92.116.64.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BA88A016C; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:42:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484C442F.5040007@bsdforen.de> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:42:23 +0200 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jack@jarasoft.net References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mergemaster problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:42:38 -0000 Jack Raats wrote: > after upgrade 6.3 to 7.0 mergemaster didn't do the job properly > After a normal reboot I get a lot of Warnings like > /etc/rc: WARNING: $variable_enable is not set properly - see rc.conf(5) > > HOw to solve this problem??? > > Thanks > > Jack Rerun mergemaster. When it asks you to [i]nstall the new /etc/defaults/rc.conf, [m]erge it or leave it for later. Choose i. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:56:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D88B1065670 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:56:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.10.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38628FC19 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from westmark (westmark.nagual.nl [192.168.11.22]) by nagual.nl (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/yanta) with ESMTP id m58KuVpb020016 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:56:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:55:46 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080608225546.00002a20@westmark> In-Reply-To: <20080608220836.T9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608162456.1c4949bc@fabiankeil.de> <20080608173024.00005cfa@westmark> <1a5a68400806081100y212bff67u6762e430f0218d36@mail.gmail.com> <1a5a68400806081101n4c97746doc7e12e0914728902@mail.gmail.com> <20080608220836.T9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: de nagual X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-pc-solaris2.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 192.168.11.35 Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:56:13 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:08:59 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > As you might have read, I have quite a lot of RAM available on this > > server (4GB), but ofcource I want the operating system to take as > > little as possible so that I have as much RAM as possible over for > > the server processes to work with (mostly web-server and > > mysql-server). > > ZFS is memory and CPU eater. prepare that very few will be left for > actual work ;) Bollocks. It consumes memory. The more seperate filesystems, the more memory. But don't execurate. For a webserver on zfs 4GB is more than enough. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 20:58:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6118106564A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:58:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.10.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5BA8FC12 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:58:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from westmark (westmark.nagual.nl [192.168.11.22]) by nagual.nl (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/yanta) with ESMTP id m58Kx1Qt020034 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:59:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:58:16 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080608225816.00002997@westmark> In-Reply-To: <20080608220207.C9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608162456.1c4949bc@fabiankeil.de> <20080608220207.C9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: de nagual X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-pc-solaris2.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 192.168.11.35 Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:58:31 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:05:08 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > On a system with an Athlon 1700+ and only 512 MB of RAM, > > receiving snapshots on OpenSolaris renders the GUI pretty > > much useless. > > looks like very bad CPU and I/O scheduling on Solaris. > maybe that's their 32-64 hardware threads capable chip is advertised > so much? :) Don't write about things you don't know. *Maybe's* don't help. You don't have to like solaris but don't troll about it, please. Both systems have their pro's and cons. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 21:01:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D0B106566B for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:01:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from urandomdev@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C20048FC20 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:01:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from urandomdev@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1543498fgb.35 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:01:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type; bh=fHhJWAwgsHBaniYXiwfbH4b9yZdO2/8ZUkas6va2Cd8=; b=RXntUrVLA8GwHMa7oWRXB/3w8j/NPckel94RnZWhjgfdZcigYVoyoBAv80yFq/HfGs ravfLpmnMe6OyfApJL3RzTrpFePftEN0Xd/+mJWYjEMaJ/hJMupww4UzOyDc9hxp6Vbd 8mm2Gbm/0tm4R6ZW7ygA0yLYxX0JJm0sz4aU4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=okV8fA8RV+msTqfGEZ3Bv6t+Wfy1Fqfj/9XbHEhHLW301yeAsDxhtkve4GZvT0yDGa RvNFcwBr1q4jFBjoo2A/9cvH5hX6i8VzEnL/4Dtwecr9N8sdiSZeS7cnFiNJgAphb0jL utcEt6gTo5xJAwSINdGR54Tu8yKWmEAauXO74= Received: by 10.86.65.11 with SMTP id n11mr3406671fga.35.1212958879379; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.111.114? ( [84.75.166.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm9947988fge.5.2008.06.08.14.01.17 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <484C489C.7070908@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:01:16 +0200 From: Simon Jolle sjolle User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <484C3CC4.7050107@webrz.net> <20080608201256.GA28987@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <484C3FB7.4080208@gmail.com> <484C4076.3040804@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <484C4076.3040804@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4535433BF44A382878505419" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Grep Guru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:01:21 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig4535433BF44A382878505419 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/08/2008 10:26 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > The system supplied grep(1) /is/ gnu grep: >=20 > happy-idiot-talk:~:% grep --version grep (GNU grep) 2.5.1-FreeBSD [...] Sorry you are right. I didn't had any FreeBSD box around. > Cheers, > Matthew cheers Simon --------------enig4535433BF44A382878505419 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFITEicEMN/lNE/wrwRAkNVAJ4xZVVe//eqKSkgilPRIeqdfk9kBwCfc2xx YwYiz1cR5Z/3OeW8j3oN1IY= =LLNW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig4535433BF44A382878505419-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 21:01:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CEF10656AF for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.10.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F27A8FC16 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from westmark (westmark.nagual.nl [192.168.11.22]) by nagual.nl (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/yanta) with ESMTP id m58L2GPT020045 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:02:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:01:31 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080608230131.00003da7@westmark> In-Reply-To: <20080608215648.Q9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608215648.Q9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: de nagual X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-pc-solaris2.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 192.168.11.35 Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:01:53 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:01:23 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > while i don't use it, it works rather as in manual. no crashes if > configured right. > that's just my opinion about ZFS that it isn't very useful at all. > it's just memory and CPU eater. Your entitled to your opinion, but please try to base it on some facts. ZFS is herre to stay. You better get used to it. at least you could try to work with it before you make up an opinion. Have you -any- idea at all what this FS is capable off? -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 21:57:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144C21065677 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfeustel@mindspring.com) Received: from QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8CA58FC19 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:57:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dfeustel@mindspring.com) Received: from OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bXWW1Z0040Fqzac5806A00; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:41:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([69.245.196.200]) by OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bZhT1Z00J4KuD453U00000; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:41:28 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=0MEbs0GFkjIA:10 a=lZAATZFBIwNetN577ZgA:9 a=rTa0R9LB-RwY-_eCE48A:7 a=_04woCak9AKW1WtRhc7uvuyYXMUA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 To: questions@freebsd.org From: dfeustel@mindspring.com Message-Id: <20080608215728.B8CA58FC19@mx1.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Subject: Playing back motion jpeg saved by firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:57:29 -0000 I just discovered that firefox can save motion video in addition to displaying it. But I don't know how to play back the saved video.cgi file. Mplayer complains about missing configuration data. Does anyone know how to play back the file saved by firefox? Is there some other mailing list to which I should post this question? Thanks, Dave Feustel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 22:07:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47888106567E for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:07:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA038FC12 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:07:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58M76gL058944; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:07:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m58M6vso058930; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:06:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:06:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Fabian Keil In-Reply-To: <20080608222852.5810cd38@fabiankeil.de> Message-ID: <20080609000619.K58929@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608162456.1c4949bc@fabiankeil.de> <14989d6e0806081210r6fec5a14y6473a26ba28a91f3@mail.gmail.com> <20080608222852.5810cd38@fabiankeil.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Anders =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E4ggstr=F6m?= , Christian Walther , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:07:39 -0000 >> This hasn't anything to do with ZFS but on the different configuration >> of the clockrate. FreeBSD uses 1000 ticks, while it's 500 on Solaris. > > With OpenSolaris 2008.05 the GUI becomes unresponsive for > multiple-seconds on my system, and it's not clear to me > how the clock rate difference would explain that. no. it's just because of scheduling and I/O algorithms used in solaris. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 22:08:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44851106564A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957368FC18 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58M8RVV058961; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:08:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m58M8Rs0058958; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:08:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:08:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Dick Hoogendijk In-Reply-To: <20080608225546.00002a20@westmark> Message-ID: <20080609000716.H58929@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608162456.1c4949bc@fabiankeil.de> <20080608173024.00005cfa@westmark> <1a5a68400806081100y212bff67u6762e430f0218d36@mail.gmail.com> <1a5a68400806081101n4c97746doc7e12e0914728902@mail.gmail.com> <20080608220836.T9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608225546.00002a20@westmark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:08:48 -0000 >> ZFS is memory and CPU eater. prepare that very few will be left for >> actual work ;) > > Bollocks. > It consumes memory. The more seperate filesystems, the more memory. But > don't execurate. For a webserver on zfs 4GB is more than enough. still enough for UFS with softupdates - which is REALLY fast. you may set kern.maxvnodes much higher to speed it up even more. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 22:09:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D0E106568C for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:09:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CFC8FC1E for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58M9V3E058992; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:09:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m58M9VYn058989; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:09:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:09:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Dick Hoogendijk In-Reply-To: <20080608230131.00003da7@westmark> Message-ID: <20080609000836.Q58929@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608215648.Q9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608230131.00003da7@westmark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:09:57 -0000 >> configured right. > >> that's just my opinion about ZFS that it isn't very useful at all. >> it's just memory and CPU eater. > > Your entitled to your opinion, but please try to base it on some facts. > ZFS is herre to stay. You better get used to it. at least you could try AFAIK there are no plans to FORCE using ZFS instead of UFS in FreeBSD. or there are? if so - fine time to check something else. > to work with it before you make up an opinion. Have you -any- idea at yes i am. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 22:18:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C961065674 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:18:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0308FC14 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58MIWqT059067; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:18:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m58MIWR5059064; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:18:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:18:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Dick Hoogendijk In-Reply-To: <20080608230131.00003da7@westmark> Message-ID: <20080609001010.G59013@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608215648.Q9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608230131.00003da7@westmark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:18:57 -0000 > ZFS is herre to stay. You better get used to it. at least you could try > to work with it before you make up an opinion. Have you -any- idea at > all what this FS is capable off? if you like - quick summary 1) ZFS "turns random writes into sequential writes" as they say. yes that's true. they just forgot to say that it then turns sequential reads into random reads. simple for anyone that still can use his/her brain. 2) ZFS RAID-z turns your X drives to single drive performance both on read and write. every normal RAID-5 implementation will give you random read speed of X-1 times single drive speed, while slow random write speeds (but still at least half of single drive). but this is advertised as a feature 3) a CPU,cache and memory bandwidth hogging "feature" of checksumming all blocks. thing that are already done in disk hardware. fortunately you can turn this off 4) write anywhere style of writing, just with large buffers it could get large blocks to be written at once if only large continous space are found. quite good (but not that much better than UFS) as long as your drive is mostly empty. 5) incredibly high memory consumption. very high CPU consumption compared to UFS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 22:30:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7B51065676 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:30:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from entwistle.sonicboom.org (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AADC8FC18 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:30:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.sonicboom.org [127.0.0.1]) by entwistle.sonicboom.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58MU5b4055511 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:30:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Message-ID: <484C5D6C.9020401@brianwhalen.net> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:30:04 -0700 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484BE376.9050301@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <484BE376.9050301@webrz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Make buildworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:30:06 -0000 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Can someone tell me the difference between 'make -j2 buildworld' and > 'make -j4 buildworld' ? > > Thanks, > Jos > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" fyi, the below is from /usr/src/UPDATING: COMMON ITEMS: General Notes ------------- Avoid using make -j when upgrading. From time to time in the past there have been problems using -j with buildworld and/or installworld. This is especially true when upgrading between "distant" versions (eg one that cross a major release boundary or several minor releases, or when several months have passed on the -current branch). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 22:50:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE56106566B for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:50:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rabe@uugrn.org) Received: from mail.uugrn.org (mail.uugrn.org [195.49.138.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A2B8FC16 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:50:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rabe@uugrn.org) Received: from rabe.uugrn.org (root@rabe.uugrn.org [195.49.138.102]) by mail.uugrn.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m58Mo0Xe029467; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:50:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rabe@uugrn.org) Received: from daemon.ma.sigsys.de (rabe@rabe.uugrn.org [195.49.138.102]) by rabe.uugrn.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m58MnxUd029458; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:49:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rabe@uugrn.org) Received: from daemon.ma.sigsys.de (localhost.ma.sigsys.de [127.0.0.1]) by daemon.ma.sigsys.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58MoNIa005035; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:50:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rabe@uugrn.org) Received: (from rabe@localhost) by daemon.ma.sigsys.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m58MoNiT005034; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:50:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rabe@uugrn.org) X-Authentication-Warning: daemon.ma.sigsys.de: rabe set sender to rabe@uugrn.org using -f Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:50:23 +0200 From: Raphael Becker To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080608225023.GD54922@ma.sigsys.de> References: <484C3CC4.7050107@webrz.net> <20080608221328.U9955@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8nsIa27JVQLqB7/C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080608221328.U9955@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Jos Chrispijn , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Grep Guru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:50:12 -0000 --8nsIa27JVQLqB7/C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:15:50PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > find . -type f -print0|xargs -0 grep There's no more need for find | xargs Try:=20 find . -type -f -exec grep {} \+ -exec foo {} \+ behaves like xargs foo =20 -exec foo {} \; exec foo for every file Regards Raphael --=20 Raphael Becker http://rabe.uugrn.org/ GnuPG: E7B2 1D66 3AF2 EDC7 9828 6D7A 9CDA 3E7B 10CA 9F2D =2E........|.........|.........|.........|.........|.........|.........|.. --8nsIa27JVQLqB7/C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFITGIvnNo+exDKny0RAlyUAJ9QFGu+YDDMeSOzwulu2ny56EInbACgvFWF YQjIJFILN3Raxpp57qf5YVM= =15Pr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8nsIa27JVQLqB7/C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 23:07:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA061065671 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1DA8FC19 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:07:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3EB568610B54; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:07:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id DkYOu+2lqD9f; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id C1E556800E985; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:07:12 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080608230712.GA24307@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484C3CC4.7050107@webrz.net> <20080608221328.U9955@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608225023.GD54922@ma.sigsys.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080608225023.GD54922@ma.sigsys.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Subject: Re: Grep Guru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:07:16 -0000 On Mon, Jun 09, 2008, Raphael Becker wrote: >On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:15:50PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> find . -type f -print0|xargs -0 grep > >There's no more need for find | xargs > >Try: > >find . -type -f -exec grep {} \+ > >-exec foo {} \+ behaves like xargs foo >-exec foo {} \; exec foo for every file The issue here is that grep execs grep for each file found while xargs batches the files. This is of particular importance if one wants to see the file names in the output. In relation to this, if one wants to be sure that grep always generates the file name, insure that it always gets at least two files as arguments: find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep pattern /dev/null FWIW, I have learned about gnu-grep's -r option reading this thread, which I had not noticed previously. I guess that just goes to show that old habits die hard :-). Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 Good luck to all you optimists out there who think Microsoft can deliver 35 million lines of quality code on which you can operate your business. -- John C. Dvorak From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 23:14:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085B01065673 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:14:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5608FC0A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:14:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2CD31130D3; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 19:14:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:14:07 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: cZg3FZCykNLGmjmokhIikdFg0d6IMTvsQpN3JAAzpo0g 1212966847 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3D7B011A9C; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 19:14:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Raphael Becker In-Reply-To: <20080608225023.GD54922@ma.sigsys.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:14:06 -0500 References: <484C3CC4.7050107@webrz.net> <20080608221328.U9955@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608225023.GD54922@ma.sigsys.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: FreeBSD List Subject: Re: Grep Guru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:14:09 -0000 On Jun 8, 2008, at 5:50 PM, Raphael Becker wrote: > find . -type -f -exec grep {} \+ > > -exec foo {} \+ behaves like xargs foo > -exec foo {} \; exec foo for every file Way cool! I hadn't known that about find(1). Cheers, -j From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 23:16:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43124106566B for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86C38FC0A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:16:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K5U89-0001QF-C1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:16:57 +0000 Received: from 89-172-34-160.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([89.172.34.160]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:16:57 +0000 Received: from ivoras by 89-172-34-160.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:16:57 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 01:16:39 +0200 Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608215648.Q9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608230131.00003da7@westmark> <20080609001010.G59013@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig37BC1F8E279DA9A9F22E6182" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89-172-34-160.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) In-Reply-To: <20080609001010.G59013@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:16:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig37BC1F8E279DA9A9F22E6182 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wojciech Puchar wrote: > 2) ZFS RAID-z turns your X drives to single drive performance both on=20 > read and write. every normal RAID-5 implementation will give you random= =20 > read speed of X-1 times single drive speed, while slow random write=20 > speeds (but still at least half of single drive). but this is advertise= d=20 > as a feature Is this because of checksum verification (the need to read all=20 components) or something else? Any documentation/references? --------------enig37BC1F8E279DA9A9F22E6182 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFITGhdldnAQVacBcgRAoYZAKDtf0wMEWTffKMLzLXTzC1VGv8mlQCgj1CY u/EJF/aujs5Y0rOOuTFdYA4= =7HX/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig37BC1F8E279DA9A9F22E6182-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 23:33:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D609106566B for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:33:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE908FC19 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:33:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m58NXG1A080425 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:33:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) id m58NXGQY080422; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:33:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:33:15 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Ivan Voras Message-ID: <20080608233315.GA33530@dan.emsphone.com> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608215648.Q9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608230131.00003da7@westmark> <20080609001010.G59013@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:33:17 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 09), Ivan Voras said: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > 2) ZFS RAID-z turns your X drives to single drive performance both > > on read and write. every normal RAID-5 implementation will give you > > random read speed of X-1 times single drive speed, while slow > > random write speeds (but still at least half of single drive). but > > this is advertised as a feature > > Is this because of checksum verification (the need to read all > components) or something else? Any documentation/references? RAID-Z stores a single checksum over the whole stripe, instead of checksumming each disks's section separately, so it has to read from all disks to validate the stripe. Only random reads are penalized, though. http://blogs.sun.com/roch/entry/when_to_and_not_to -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 23:34:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52143106567F for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:34:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hsmtkk@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46388FC13 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:34:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hsmtkk@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so518918tid.3 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:34:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; 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Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.13.7 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3b47caa90806081725kee1bfdegb7c097acc12519df@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 19:25:43 -0500 From: Novembre To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: mplayer plug-in not playing some streams X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:25:44 -0000 Hi, I have installed mplayer-0.99.10_14 and mplayerplug-in-3.45 using packages on my 7.0-RELEASE machine which runs Firefox 2.0.0.12. I am not able to see *some* online content, though, and I couldn't find any pattern. For example, going to http://www.davidgilmour.com/dvd.htm , I can see the Windows Media streams (both low and high resolution versions), but QuickTime and Real Player streams are not played at all --- a new tab opens in Firefox, and I see "Getting playlist..." and "Connecting to server..." messages, but then it says "Stopped" and that's it! But, if I go to http://www.satriani.com/podcast/Satchafunkilus/ and click on any of the podcasts (they are in .m4v which, if I'm not mistaken, is just a container for QuickTime .mov videos), mplayerplug-in plays them flawlessly. Another example for QuickTime is http://www.vai.com/SightsSounds/video_vault/index.html where all the videos can be played perfectly. As for Real Player, I see watch BBC Persian website's videos in Windows Media (e.g. this one about Euro2008 games http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/meta/dps/2008/06/bb/080606_op-euro2008_16x9_bb.asx), but if I choose Real Player as my format, I can only hear the sound and no video is played! 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Add newsletter@eyeofdubai.com to your address book and *@eyeofdubai.com to your white list filters to ensure that you receive all future newsletters in your Inbox.=20 Please do not send me any e-mail messages in the future =20 =20 153181 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 02:11:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC62106567E for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 02:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8943A8FC14 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 02:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@telenix.org) Received: (qmail 25479 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2008 02:11:03 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (HELO april.telenix.org) (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 9 Jun 2008 02:11:02 -0000 Message-ID: <484C8F15.6050208@telenix.org> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:01:57 -0400 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian References: <484BE376.9050301@webrz.net> <484C5D6C.9020401@brianwhalen.net> In-Reply-To: <484C5D6C.9020401@brianwhalen.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Make buildworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:11:03 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Brian wrote: > Jos Chrispijn wrote: >> Can someone tell me the difference between 'make -j2 buildworld' and >> 'make -j4 buildworld' ? >> >> Thanks, >> Jos >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > fyi, the below is from /usr/src/UPDATING: > > COMMON ITEMS: > > General Notes > ------------- > Avoid using make -j when upgrading. From time to time in the > past there have been problems using -j with buildworld and/or > installworld. This is especially true when upgrading between > "distant" versions (eg one that cross a major release boundary > or several minor releases, or when several months have passed > on the -current branch). I really don't think that's a fault of make(1), it's a fault of the Makefiles, which have to be written very carefully so that having multiple parallel processes going might screw up building. Yes, it has done that in the past, but it's an occaisonal thing, not a regular thing, because there's a good number of folks who build there kernels with something like -j4. I often do. One just has to be really awake when you hit a problem, or when reporting a build error... rebuild without the -jN. I did some testing, at least for me, I get the most improvements when the number of cores or processors equals the -j number. You can make it higher, even double it, withoout hurting things, but 95% of the improvements come from matching the number of processes to the number of available CPUs (and that' by my own testing, not theory). Still, if you aren't willing to do your won troubleshooting, best to avoid using - -j anything. It's very easy to screw up. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFITI8Uz62J6PPcoOkRAvc0AKCihT7rT4VrDI/6ve1BXfWjXwrsHgCdE4qr F1uwEvIAQt8qNrQADQZbkvI= =g9B0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 02:34:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FE01065678 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 02:34:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from letter2steve@yahoo.com) Received: from web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B65548FC15 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 02:34:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from letter2steve@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 66373 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jun 2008 02:07:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=fT6nUd8Ph5p1yUtYD+yT3+n7EcY9/NjbGe2vboj/c6jRvnKNNIMrs+ix5wWG6rNA2evvNT18+5bmkXWBG0nDY+hoOWhcZ3606Udm6kcdLugs63c3xIrxSGr81IjkrQIqjJ/Q8nEFFqbm2J5Z0fhBycMe4WMCthPpWWLdiYlZ+K0=; Received: from [99.229.214.164] by web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:07:28 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 19:07:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Quinn To: Schiz0 In-Reply-To: <8d23ec860806031204l34bee56k80ced31851516526@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <632387.64535.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting up a VPN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: letter2steve@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:34:10 -0000 --- On Tue, 6/3/08, Schiz0 wrote: > Hey, > > I'm looking for information on how to setup a Virtual > Private Network > on a FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE system .... Hi I've recently implemented OpenVPN under FreeBSD For our team, it's been rock solid I found the OpenVPN docs were excellent for Windohs/Linux but were lacking a little for BSD I can send you my personal BSD related notes if you like Take care Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 02:46:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68521065682 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 02:46:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6ED18FC13 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 02:46:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2280138rvf.43 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:46:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; bh=9bhXkBag04+5dQq2RpnEuBJnI5CcIox0HoHbYYCQHTE=; b=I/ppHrqbcDiK53xhBFM8yv0GXAn9fdIYQ3+/EQ4Zz5Ta6SdlHAvfDLMAmt6Qbi3nH9 9a2+rFlh3pfB+/HncNIA7rSTvp+V5JWMGXVzhV14/Pz+FEbL3SZytr5anbMQ6wJ+zQnL 3EGHTkgcrnaa4FiT6lol7sZBSyee/l6ZJRA1Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=w4uz9+jl0MJlFrqjI5TcAYoOT5KO0HquBGI7epvibL++8uBuKXKthQRk5wpQPNVlZz +e8bRZw0NnTXW7apSE+L1EENEDGiY5bq0MKVzxcsTyeqjzxEMDk/hsclGZnoidqvRCjf 3UimARiEfH7vjt0r2igl9jd6Bl8ddmTtuXG2I= Received: by 10.140.132.8 with SMTP id f8mr1713261rvd.206.1212977968017; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sniper ( [71.221.172.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g31sm12904922rvb.2.2008.06.08.19.19.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:19:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Falanga To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:19:04 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806082019.04350.af300wsm@gmail.com> Subject: Networking issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:46:30 -0000 Hello, I have, for some time, been able to ssh into my father's FreeBSD machine in the Road Runner network in Central New York. Last night, I tried so that I could fix a problem for him and ssh timed out. No problem I thought, his modem has a different IP than the one I have in my /etc/hosts file, but this turned to not be the case. Well, after some digging, I did a traceroute to his IP address. The packets went all over the place, from San Jose, to Colorado, back to San Jose, to Colorado then to Ohio, then to Denver, then to San Jose, then to Ohio, etc. (you get the idea). Eventually, traceroute was just lost and confused and I hit ctrl-c. Thinking the problem would work itself out, I decided to wait and try again tonight however, I'm having the same problem tonight. Obviously, though, I can use my Internet connection (after all, the e-mail . . .), but why can't I get to his IP address. For kicks and grins tonight, I logged onto my DSL modem and looked at it's routing table. I found some interesting information. First, my DSL modems IP is 71.221.172.38, however, the default route appears to be 67.41.38.201. Obviously, I've got to cross at least one network to get to this default route in the first place. I'm assuming this is the default route because it appears in the routing table as such: dest netmask gateway 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 67.41.38.201 Now, here's the output of traceroute (with name resolution turned off): [/usr/home/andy] -> traceroute -n 67.41.38.201 traceroute to 67.41.38.201 (67.41.38.201), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 * * * 2 67.41.38.201 40.303 ms * 39.421 ms Why on earth would there be delays on the first hop when not using name resolution? Ok, now my machines setup: my DSL modem is the router (as you all knew). It also acts as a DHCP server but my FreeBSD machine is setup as static IP. The local, private, IP network is 192.168.0.0/24 with the DSL modem as 192.168.0.1 and my box is statically assigned 192.168.0.10. Any thoughts as what might be wrong on my end before I start bugging my ISP? Thanks, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 03:04:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C638106567D for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 03:04:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E34F8FC1B for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 03:04:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so974268ywe.13 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:04:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=jFrEW7Yfg1H+3/8uXJZYQxy5XdQ5iSqA8FqcHtKMch8=; b=kFZGMfZB+m/XVSwM181uNaFyKSr289VqB8wpxEF/kh0GeMDYO4YEC5tHg4zCD1PuU0 qQFsx9zBecSpBAZOu/gyPM9Rmi9pECXP+VTm14yQuvtU1mN2JCIyujfR0g3F21RNRarY h3l8tVrzlWlcdsPVeuf8JeA0nsTp/jyEqLAxU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; b=Rvixga39Pn40gjYWmwW6J5hGzpHXLZrpR3Taa3lAJ8+u0ekbxow7HKJ4xuLQMEVWgE KttnwtNx9zgvqQ1WYBWdXU0qoqghmquRgoL+IH9T+RmgBn8M2kKvp7//DG3Zgh1Pkrtq ErczA1+65NWesTPQOVCVioUy6xzip6hesegUg= Received: by 10.151.100.21 with SMTP id c21mr5394079ybm.168.1212980661134; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 103-120-245-190.fibertel.com.ar ( [190.245.120.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm8982340ywl.4.2008.06.08.20.04.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:04:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, letter2steve@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:04:14 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <632387.64535.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <632387.64535.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806090004.14239.gnemmi@gmail.com> Cc: Schiz0 Subject: Re: Setting up a VPN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:04:22 -0000 On Sunday 08 June 2008 23:07:28 Steve Quinn wrote: > --- On Tue, 6/3/08, Schiz0 wrote: > > Hey, > > > > I'm looking for information on how to setup a Virtual > > Private Network > > on a FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE system .... > > Hi > > I've recently implemented OpenVPN under FreeBSD > For our team, it's been rock solid > > I found the OpenVPN docs were excellent for Windohs/Linux but were lacking > a little for BSD > > I can send you my personal BSD related notes if you like > > Take care > > Steve Please _do_ send them to this list or throw a pointer at where they are at ! I'm sure more people than you can think of will find them usefull. I, for once, could really use them :) Thanks in advanced -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 03:22:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BD0106567A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 03:22:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52898FC0A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 03:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so474298ana.13 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:22:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=YqsBbQ9/Weccp5DLQzKnBXBm4LQMmK662YL1PMpJTEo=; b=Mlj1EyAnl5uXh0wmOg/iuXzeDfmfvc9Fp+mO0cI7tgo2zl7eHDlqyXQgJUyoYO84yG yD5otrsZoVo97TPPXiq3Whm5ThitBWa40SD31oieafumz/eLrQXMV8BB7GCN9AIt2h62 0NMkEcwBQUnX8sSDH3DXOfbLqeI+HqsZssogg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=AWeWsBiYiH72FFkccqwy28Ocyj+liUFEUlES/MhUBLqBEsfNP8pOIy4imCjbRfbkiO 0v7DBp6F+d4/ZQb1wdCdMadYFn5TI8BcFwQJw0Z2jcVNCJzV4XcrR7ZDua/KWHkjRjVe wPg3Rt/VIq63jzic1vXYjRcuoA/tzHFk48SkA= Received: by 10.101.1.12 with SMTP id d12mr2871794ani.31.1212981744199; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.13.7 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3b47caa90806082022g65e88d97q3fa3d99d3b790ddc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:22:24 -0500 From: Novembre To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:22:25 -0000 Hi, Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not subscribed to the list and does not receive them in his mailbox? From time to time, I see posts which I can actually answer and contribute to, but since I'm not subscribed to the lists, even if I post an answer to the person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this? Thanks :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 03:37:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA5D106564A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 03:37:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwm-freebsd-questions@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA9E8FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 03:37:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwm-freebsd-questions@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Jun 2008 23:08:38 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id JZU30840; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:07:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-209-180.c3-0.bkl-ubr2.sbo-bkl.ma.static.cable.rcn.com (HELO sentinelchicken.net) ([207.172.209.180]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Jun 2008 23:07:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 72795 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2008 03:06:42 -0000 Received: from aeryn.skepsi.net (HELO crichton.skepsi.net) (10.0.0.101) by aeryn.skepsi.net with SMTP; 9 Jun 2008 03:06:42 -0000 Received: (nullmailer pid 72792 invoked by uid 1000); Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:06:42 -0000 Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:06:42 -0400 From: Jason Morgan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080609030642.GA61635@sentinelchicken.net> References: <632387.64535.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200806090004.14239.gnemmi@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200806090004.14239.gnemmi@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090201.484C9E79.01A6,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2007-10-30 19:00:17, dmn=5.4.3/2008-02-01 X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: Setting up a VPN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:37:26 -0000 On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 12:04:14AM -0300, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > On Sunday 08 June 2008 23:07:28 Steve Quinn wrote: > > --- On Tue, 6/3/08, Schiz0 wrote: > > > Hey, > > > > > > I'm looking for information on how to setup a Virtual > > > Private Network > > > on a FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE system .... > > > > Hi > > > > I've recently implemented OpenVPN under FreeBSD > > For our team, it's been rock solid > > > > I found the OpenVPN docs were excellent for Windohs/Linux but were lacking > > a little for BSD > > > > I can send you my personal BSD related notes if you like > > > > Take care > > > > Steve > > Please _do_ send them to this list or throw a pointer at where they are at ! > I'm sure more people than you can think of will find them usefull. > I, for once, could really use them :) > > Thanks in advanced > -- > Blessings > Gonzalo Nemmi I second this request. I am getting ready to implement a VPN for a small company and any extra documentation I can get would be greatly appreciated. Regards, ~Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 03:49:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45AE01065688 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 03:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edt1023@ms17.hinet.net) Received: from msr31.hinet.net (msr31.hinet.net [168.95.4.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107C68FC13 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 03:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edt1023@ms17.hinet.net) Received: from ms17.hinet.net (61-223-180-206.dynamic.hinet.net [61.223.180.206]) by msr31.hinet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA13821; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:32:27 +0800 (CST) Received: by ms17.hinet.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:33:09 +0800 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:33:09 +0800 From: "Edward G.J. Lee" To: Yuri Message-ID: <20080609033309.GA12403@lgj.amnesia.net> References: <48498735.6030800@rawbw.com> <81a9e3840806070109g5605ca5ag52382cf100b454e6@mail.gmail.com> <484A4FDC.80308@rawbw.com> <81a9e3840806070228q440af610g94cec5599752048c@mail.gmail.com> <484A578A.5040008@rawbw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <484A578A.5040008@rawbw.com> Organization: GNU/Linux/*BSD Dreamer Club User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Input method doesn't work with QT applications. Anyone able to type Chinese into QT apps? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:49:19 -0000 On Sat, Jun 07, 2008, Yuri wrote: > Hi Jyun-Yi, > > With these environment variables prompt window pops up from QT apps but > editboxes don't get selected word. > Also all GTK applications begin to speak Chinese. How about, unset LC_ALL unset LANG export LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.UTF-8 Edward From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 04:04:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713FE1065689 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 04:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnichols430@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EDB8FC1C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 04:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnichols430@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so981410ywe.13 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:04:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jJvABCvuCwFaXBTCKl94dQaWUcxG0cz44Vg81e61VLo=; b=jnyrZCPGm6BeWXGD2H62xxgbYOLrIlKyFoKRSZOvsT62SAsFtXSKY6Ps0j6VJ8rojn OPxrJzJo40I4K8t1Aj0ic4b9fWRnGpcMGBV+G/SL+WwOLmwKx4zWXqB1S4dLgDrJDneC rNUJau42IZ36OocdXcajouAz4wD+ttsAFPzgk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Uj3MzHANEvld4nsAxoHD0M0XocqAv1/PSy5B9vKq9DOVp9Jt6zH0A8L7vByhaw4DBG wkRuybqbnXchEsw3ysfdqC1TKW54/2WPlJ2QvqdNVB0JQDHjuxPPhYVPeWJ5dghVYB6J oBabFFW9/RtyRj5iFYGZwU6G5sJuwix1SOp/w= Received: by 10.150.191.15 with SMTP id o15mr5477718ybf.54.1212982834007; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:40:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.0.100? ( [24.248.197.140]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f75sm12879852pye.2.2008.06.08.20.40.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <484CA625.8020602@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:40:21 -0500 From: Ryan Nichols User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD on a CompactFlash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:04:41 -0000 What im trying to figure out is the best way to install the OS on a compact flash, put it as read only, then install a 2nd HDD to store the mysql data,etc. What is the best way to do this? Thanks. Ryan Nichols From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 04:08:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391F5106566B for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 04:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@icionline.ca) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA228FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 04:08:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@icionline.ca) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1830655wfg.7 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.174.18 with SMTP id w18mr1215273wfe.202.1212982817986; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.47.20 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7039ada60806082040s36afc2c8n4698402ac5d4ff29@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:40:17 -0600 From: James To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Whine when EHCI controller enabled in BIOS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:08:31 -0000 I have a high pitched whine coming from my motherboard when the EHCI USB 2.0 controller is enabled in the BIOS. The whine only starts once FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE is halfway through booting. The whine also goes away when I plugin a USB drive in with EHCI controller enabled (usb keyboard and mouse being already plugged in). Is this a hardware problem, or could it possibly be software related??? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 04:16:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0FD106566B for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 04:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwm-freebsd-questions@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5A78FC28 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 04:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwm-freebsd-questions@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Jun 2008 00:16:16 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id JZU35512; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-209-180.c3-0.bkl-ubr2.sbo-bkl.ma.static.cable.rcn.com (HELO sentinelchicken.net) ([207.172.209.180]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Jun 2008 00:16:01 -0400 Received: (qmail 74012 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2008 04:15:15 -0000 Received: from aeryn.skepsi.net (HELO crichton.skepsi.net) (10.0.0.101) by aeryn.skepsi.net with SMTP; 9 Jun 2008 04:15:15 -0000 Received: (nullmailer pid 74009 invoked by uid 1000); Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:15:15 -0000 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:15:15 -0400 From: Jason Morgan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080609041515.GB61635@sentinelchicken.net> References: <7039ada60806082040s36afc2c8n4698402ac5d4ff29@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7039ada60806082040s36afc2c8n4698402ac5d4ff29@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A09020A.484CAE8F.01DD,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2007-10-30 19:00:17, dmn=5.4.3/2008-02-01 X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: Whine when EHCI controller enabled in BIOS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:16:16 -0000 On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 09:40:17PM -0600, James wrote: > I have a high pitched whine coming from my motherboard when the EHCI > USB 2.0 controller is enabled in the BIOS. The whine only starts once > FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE is halfway through booting. > > The whine also goes away when I plugin a USB drive in with EHCI > controller enabled (usb keyboard and mouse being already plugged in). > > Is this a hardware problem, or could it possibly be software related??? I can't imagine this is a software issue. Sounds strange. Have you tried to see if it isn't a fan issue? We have some Dell GX280s with a bad batch of motherboards at my university---under specific conditions (e.g., using certain video cards) the system fan will spin up 'til the system sounds like it's about to take off. Good luck, ~Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 04:34:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653E21065677 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 04:34:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mo_kh118@yahoo.com) Received: from web90608.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web90608.mail.mud.yahoo.com [216.252.100.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DB4A8FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 04:34:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mo_kh118@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 4624 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jun 2008 04:34:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=xp5EbbHnh1BiwYhTn5ZfzXw6QLQurHVWlo6PtAaLvNorKzdWN/HQ9NIsXx++jD26zYjZSVoRKXbhq9IkhTS3b+QcV9Lwyqb3z4k6jRzbFaw36piVu7psND1KWXSWMars6rW6b3YibwlD/v32KCncBV4AagXfsSuSg8aqA5fnloI=; Received: from [78.38.255.30] by web90608.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:34:57 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.41 YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:34:57 -0700 (PDT) From: mohammad khatibi To: CZUCZY Gergely , freebsd question MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <482799.4165.qm@web90608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: PXE booting 7.0-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:34:58 -0000 Hi =0Atry using this lines in your /usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf instead of you= rs :=0Asubnet=A0[your subnet IP] netmask=A0[your netmask] {=0A=A0 range [st= art range] [finish range];=0A=A0 next-server [your PXE server IP];=0A=A0 fi= lename "pxeboot";=0A=A0 option root-path "[your Root server IP (if you moun= t your server root its obvious that your server IP)]:/";=0A}=0A=0Aand you s= hould make change in your /etc/inetd.conf and comment out this line :=0Atft= p=A0=A0 dgram=A0=A0 udp wait=A0=A0=A0 root=A0=A0=A0 /usr/libexec/tftpd=A0 t= ftpd -l -s /tftpboot/=0Aplace your pxeboot and loader in /tftpboot/ and reb= oot your system =0Ait should solve your problem =0Abut if you want to use t= ftp instead of nfs you should make your pxeboot and loader using tftp enabl= e to do this you can read this article :=0Ahttp://www.ultradesic.com/index.= php?section=3D72=0Abut there is a mistake in this article : =0Aafter you ma= ke new files are place here :=0Apxeboot : /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/px= eldr/=0Aloader : /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/=0Aand you should ex= port / and all its directory for successful loading . for more information = you can read this article too.=0Ahttp://www.ultradesic.com/?section=3D144= =0AI hope you make it =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: CZUCZY Gergely= =0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Friday, = June 6, 2008 1:17:08 PM=0ASubject: PXE booting 7.0-R=0A=0AHello,=0A=0AI'm t= rying to PXE boot 7.0-RELEASE, but it stops at a time.=0A=0AAt boot I see t= he following on the screen:=0ABIOS drive C: is disk0=0ABIOS drive D: is dis= k1=0A=0APXE version 2.1, real mode entry point @9188:0106=0ABIOS 517kB/3406= 144kB available memory=0A=0AFreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1=0A(= toor@myplace, date)=0Apxe_open: server addr: 10.0.0.1=0Apxe_open: serve pat= h: /wwwbladebsd/=0Apxe_open: gateway ip: 10.0.0.1=0AConsoles: internal vide= o/keybaord=0ABIOS drive C: is disk0=0ABIOS drive D: is diskl=0ABIOS 517kB/3= 406144kB available memory=0A=0AFreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1= =0A(toor@myplace, date)=0ACan't work out which disk we are booting from.=0A= Guessed BIOS device 0xffffffff not found by probes, defaulting to disk0=0A= =0Acan't loader 'kernel'=0A=0AType '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for m= ore detailed help.=0AOK lsdev=0Acd devices:=0Adisk devices:=0Adisk0: BIOS d= rive C:=0Adisk1: BIOS drive D:=0Apxe devices:=0A=0Aon the server I see t se= rving pxeboot via tftp, and mounting the root via NFS:=0AJun=A0 6 11:38:22 = nfs dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1=0AJun=A0 6 11:38:22= nfs dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 10.0.0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1=0AJun=A0 6= 11:38:24 nfs dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 10.0.0.32 (10.0.0.1) from 00:30:48:8d:= 00:36 via eth1=0AJun=A0 6 11:38:24 nfs dhcpd: DHCPACK on 10.0.0.32 to 00:30= :48:8d:00:36 via eth1=0AJun=A0 6 11:38:24 nfs atftpd[2221]: Serving /bsd/px= eboot to 10.0.0.32:2070=0AJun=A0 6 11:38:24 nfs atftpd[2222]: Serving /bsd/= pxeboot to 10.0.0.32:2071=0AJun=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from = 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1=0AJun=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 10.0= .0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1=0AJun=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd: DHCPREQU= EST for 10.0.0.32 (10.0.0.1) from 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1=0AJun=A0 6 11:= 38:25 nfs dhcpd: DHCPACK on 10.0.0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1=0AJun= =A0 6 11:38:25 nfs mountd[2120]: authenticated mount request from 10.0.0.32= :1023 for /wwwbladebsd (/wwwbladebsd) (around 30-40 from these NFS mount me= ssages in the log).=0A=0AThe NFS server is a linux box right now.=0A=0AThe = dhcpd.conf:=0Ahost blade1 {=0A=A0 hardware ethernet 00:30:48:8d:00:36;=0A= =A0 fixed-address 10.0.0.32;=0A=A0 server-name "10.0.0.1";=0A=A0 filename "= /bsd/pxeboot";=0A=A0 next-server 10.0.0.1;=0A=A0 option root-path "/wwwblad= ebsd/";=0A}=0A=0Ai'm using "atftpd" with /tftpboot as root directory. /tftp= boot/bsd/ is a=0Asymlink to the root system's /boot .=0A=0AI've NFS-exporte= d /wwwbladebsd/, and that seems to work.=0A=0AThe question is, why loader i= s unable to load the kernel?=0AHow could I force the loader to use tftp ins= tead of NFS?=0A=0AOr using any other solutions, how can I make this box boo= t?=0AIf I've left out outsomething from here, please tell me, I will post i= t.=0A=0AThanks in advance.=0A=0A=0A-- =0ASincerely,=0A=0AGergely CZUCZY=0AH= armless Digital Bt=0Amailto: gergely.czuczy@harmless.hu=0ATel: +36-30-97029= 63=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 04:45:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC69B106566B for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 04:45:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1AD8FC17 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 04:45:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (ip224.carlyle.sfo.ygnition.net [24.219.144.224]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m594jR95097549; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <484CB566.6050404@rawbw.com> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:45:26 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Edward G.J. Lee" References: <48498735.6030800@rawbw.com> <81a9e3840806070109g5605ca5ag52382cf100b454e6@mail.gmail.com> <484A4FDC.80308@rawbw.com> <81a9e3840806070228q440af610g94cec5599752048c@mail.gmail.com> <484A578A.5040008@rawbw.com> <20080609033309.GA12403@lgj.amnesia.net> In-Reply-To: <20080609033309.GA12403@lgj.amnesia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Input method doesn't work with QT applications. Anyone able to type Chinese into QT apps? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:45:27 -0000 Edward G.J. Lee wrote: > > unset LC_ALL > unset LANG > export LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.UTF-8 > Thank you Edward, Now gcin menu is shown from QT app and all apps still speak English. But the problem is that selected Chinese character doesn't appear in the editbox in QT applications. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 05:14:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24781065673 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 05:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edt1023@ms17.hinet.net) Received: from msr18.hinet.net (msr18.hinet.net [168.95.4.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308928FC1A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 05:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edt1023@ms17.hinet.net) Received: from ms17.hinet.net (61-223-68-29.dynamic.hinet.net [61.223.68.29]) by msr18.hinet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA02806; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:12:56 +0800 (CST) Received: by ms17.hinet.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:13:39 +0800 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:13:39 +0800 From: "Edward G.J. Lee" To: Yuri Message-ID: <20080609051339.GA17338@lgj.amnesia.net> References: <48498735.6030800@rawbw.com> <81a9e3840806070109g5605ca5ag52382cf100b454e6@mail.gmail.com> <484A4FDC.80308@rawbw.com> <81a9e3840806070228q440af610g94cec5599752048c@mail.gmail.com> <484A578A.5040008@rawbw.com> <20080609033309.GA12403@lgj.amnesia.net> <484CB566.6050404@rawbw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <484CB566.6050404@rawbw.com> Organization: GNU/Linux/*BSD Dreamer Club User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Input method doesn't work with QT applications. Anyone able to type Chinese into QT apps? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:14:15 -0000 On Sun, Jun 08, 2008, Yuri wrote: > Edward G.J. Lee wrote: > > > > unset LC_ALL > > unset LANG > > export LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.UTF-8 > > > > Thank you Edward, > > Now gcin menu is shown from QT app and all apps still speak English. > But the problem is that selected Chinese character doesn't appear in the > editbox in QT applications. Your qt app and gcin must start via zh_TW.UTF-8 environment. We don't have qt immodule in gcin ports yet. Edward ps. You need XIM when you use qt app. In ~/.bash_profile, export QT_IM_MODULE=xim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 05:35:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979081065679 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 05:35:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7488FC1B for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 05:35:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so990207ywe.13 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:35:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=i5qRNmOfFrwMubLwFh3phTo9cACVJHcOG91o2DTj/Hs=; b=WRAtkcyGHifEZr+crJ1JtG56Ylbn9PxToQf5XTKVhs1D+zjKR7F4GR96/xDAZVBxx0 nk33x2VuBoo2/SEar5FXFc1CMS8fn8KCy9oa9BVSyW6mSbHEUHBDQUzNcRv4WVNLmix1 DkIbZCUq8i31t/diGJgtvKH5Q1TzcCwYtsjGE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:references; b=ReeNCOCL9LYAMd3oOmOpGhYaiLyuR0tv0/q7gZKluuFx8x9OX/zXJsTlnfhXaV5vcd jNAS1xeT9eN6kMGZ4irhnSUoFlsQ3YP3ZEH9b69NLfhJ7ESbsGRs7POfxbgGTqyl1JkI XgGns2wh0TBmmK4KwyZyyFw+j+jl4qPCrsAcE= Received: by 10.151.108.13 with SMTP id k13mr5638646ybm.84.1212989703611; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.140.14 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8cb6106e0806082235h7b9b0926uee377330133a89d6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 01:35:03 -0400 From: "Josh Carroll" To: "Chuck Robey" In-Reply-To: <484C8F15.6050208@telenix.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <484BE376.9050301@webrz.net> <484C5D6C.9020401@brianwhalen.net> <484C8F15.6050208@telenix.org> Cc: Brian , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Make buildworld X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh.carroll@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:35:04 -0000 > I did some testing, at least for me, I get the most improvements when the number > of cores or processors equals the -j number. You can make it higher, even > double it, withoout hurting things, but 95% of the improvements come from > matching the number of processes to the number of available CPUs (and that' by > my own testing, not theory). I've found that on my Q6600 (quad core) system, the optimal is 8 though the improvements after 5 were minimal. It depends if the jobs are I/O bound or not and the scheduler. Although even with ffmpeg, the optimal number of threads with this quad core system is 8. On my previous system with a dual-core chip with the same hardware, the "magic number" was 4 (again, 2x the number of cores). This was with the ULE scheduler, I'm not sure if the same holds true for the 4BSD scheduler or not. And as you said, it's important to use make without -j if the build fails before reporting bugs, since there are no guarantees that world will build properly with multiple jobs. Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 05:44:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2501065670 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 05:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C448FC12 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 05:44:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-435559b8.dyn.optonline.net [67.85.89.184]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0K2600KWQLA4RJP0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 01:44:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m595iSD5094901 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 01:44:28 -0400 Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 01:44:28 -0400 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <484CC33C.30708@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) Subject: OT: forcing thunderbird to download old gmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:44:30 -0000 I just switched machines and want to force thunderbird to download everything in my "All Mail" folder on gmail.... I tried unreading and/or moving it to my inbox and tb still only dl'ed stuff that was newer then the last time I downloaded last... any ideas? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 05:54:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D34A106567E for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 05:54:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mo_kh118@yahoo.com) Received: from web90602.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web90602.mail.mud.yahoo.com [216.252.100.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DCA0D8FC15 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 05:54:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mo_kh118@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 49223 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jun 2008 05:54:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=HcXBiuTkA793xwLOdAVgsYmEisnDAj+2DiiZuyVgzizQunYeV2FdChtjY0UhUaZxQ7eGpMoTPGhFMEkiBtgYM1qkY63G5Aj8sZboM6UUNpG/tmeUvLU8i9hXbseoSptUxc9uD6fcPBXYu3cNVxop9MP4DtjEHYumvvAR9wjqzfg=; Received: from [78.38.255.30] by web90602.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:54:18 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.41 YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:54:18 -0700 (PDT) From: mohammad khatibi To: CZUCZY Gergely , freebsd question MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <677961.48472.qm@web90602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: PXE booting 7.0-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:54:25 -0000 hi again=0Ayou said you use freebsd 7.0 so I told you to do these in freebs= d ( that you install dhcp on it!!! to the end I call it pxeserver) not on y= our Linux Server(and to the end I call your server that you want to boot fr= om and mount its / FileServer)!!!=0Ayour dhcpd.conf is :=0A> host blade1 {= =0A> =A0 hardware ethernet 00:30:48:8d:00:36;=0A> =A0 fixed-address 10.0.0.= 32;=0A> =A0 server-name "10.0.0.1";=0AI dont use it and nothing happend=0A>= =A0 filename "/bsd/pxeboot";=0Ayou should=A0place pxeboot where you specif= y as root-path and write here "pxeboot"=0A> =A0 next-server 10.0.0.1;=0A> = =A0 option root-path "/wwwbladebsd/";=0Ayou should specify your root-path a= s follow : [FileServer IP]:/=0AI use "/" because I couldn`t use any path an= d admonish you not to try anywhere else because it doesn`t work!!!=0A> }=0A= after these you should edit inetd in your pxeserver (freebsd) =0Aand you sh= ould make your pxeboot again if you want to use tftp that briefly explain i= n that article =0Aplease do=A0above steps exactly and=A0I hope you make it = !!!=0Athese are my 3 months of working on freebsd for pxeboot=0A=0A=0A-----= Original Message ----=0AFrom: CZUCZY Gergely = =0ATo: mohammad khatibi =0ACc: CZUCZY Gergely =0ASent: Monday, June 9, 2008 8:56:47 AM=0ASubject: Re: PXE boo= ting 7.0-R=0A=0AOn Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:34:57 -0700 (PDT)=0Amohammad khatibi = wrote:=0A=0A> Hi =0A> try using this lines in your /us= r/local/etc/dhcpd.conf instead of=0A> yours : subnet=A0[your subnet IP] net= mask=A0[your netmask] {=0A> =A0 range [start range] [finish range];=0A> =A0= next-server [your PXE server IP];=0A> =A0 filename "pxeboot";=0A> =A0 opti= on root-path "[your Root server IP (if you mount your server=0A> root its o= bvious that your server IP)]:/"; }=0AYes, I was exactly using these options= .=0A=0A> =0A> and you should make change in your /etc/inetd.conf and commen= t out=0A> this line : tftp=A0=A0 dgram=A0=A0 udp wait=A0=A0=A0 root=A0=A0= =A0 /usr/libexec/tftpd=0A> tftpd -l -s /tftpboot/ place your pxeboot and lo= ader in /tftpboot/=0A> and reboot your system it should solve your problem = =0ASorry, but you've failed here.=0A1) I stated the NFS(also tftp) server i= s Linux, and I'm not using it=0Afrom inetd.=0A2) I wasn't asking how are _y= ou_ doing it, the question was, what's=0Awrong with my setup. (After I know= what's wrong I can fix it myself,=0Athanks)=0A3) I've read articles, manua= ls, etc. I have a problem with it, it's not=0Aworking as it's supposed to.= =0A=0AAnyways, thanks for your efforts.=0A=0A> but if you want to use tftp = instead of nfs you should make your=0A> pxeboot and loader using tftp enabl= e to do this you can read this=0A> article : http://www.ultradesic.com/inde= x.php?section=3D72 but there is=0A> a mistake in this article : after you m= ake new files are place here :=0A> pxeboot : /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386= /pxeldr/=0A> loader : /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/=0A> and you sh= ould export / and all its directory for successful=0A> loading . for more i= nformation you can read this article too.=0A> http://www.ultradesic.com/?se= ction=3D144 I hope you make it =0A> ----- Original Message ----=0A> From: C= ZUCZY Gergely =0A> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org= =0A> Sent: Friday, June 6, 2008 1:17:08 PM=0A> Subject: PXE booting 7.0-R= =0A> =0A> Hello,=0A> =0A> I'm trying to PXE boot 7.0-RELEASE, but it stops = at a time.=0A> =0A> At boot I see the following on the screen:=0A> BIOS dri= ve C: is disk0=0A> BIOS drive D: is disk1=0A> =0A> PXE version 2.1, real mo= de entry point @9188:0106=0A> BIOS 517kB/3406144kB available memory=0A> =0A= > FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1=0A> (toor@myplace, date)=0A> = pxe_open: server addr: 10.0.0.1=0A> pxe_open: serve path: /wwwbladebsd/=0A>= pxe_open: gateway ip: 10.0.0.1=0A> Consoles: internal video/keybaord=0A> B= IOS drive C: is disk0=0A> BIOS drive D: is diskl=0A> BIOS 517kB/3406144kB a= vailable memory=0A> =0A> FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1=0A> (t= oor@myplace, date)=0A> Can't work out which disk we are booting from.=0A> G= uessed BIOS device 0xffffffff not found by probes, defaulting to=0A> disk0= =0A> =0A> can't loader 'kernel'=0A> =0A> Type '?' for a list of commands, '= help' for more detailed help.=0A> OK lsdev=0A> cd devices:=0A> disk devices= :=0A> disk0: BIOS drive C:=0A> disk1: BIOS drive D:=0A> pxe devices:=0A> = =0A> on the server I see t serving pxeboot via tftp, and mounting the root= =0A> via NFS: Jun=A0 6 11:38:22 nfs dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from=0A> 00:30:48:8= d:00:36 via eth1 Jun=A0 6 11:38:22 nfs dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on=0A> 10.0.0.32 to= 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1 Jun=A0 6 11:38:24 nfs dhcpd:=0A> DHCPREQUEST fo= r 10.0.0.32 (10.0.0.1) from 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1=0A> Jun=A0 6 11:38:2= 4 nfs dhcpd: DHCPACK on 10.0.0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:00:36=0A> via eth1 Jun=A0 = 6 11:38:24 nfs atftpd[2221]: Serving /bsd/pxeboot to=0A> 10.0.0.32:2070 Jun= =A0 6 11:38:24 nfs atftpd[2222]: Serving /bsd/pxeboot=0A> to 10.0.0.32:2071= Jun=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from=0A> 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via e= th1 Jun=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on=0A> 10.0.0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:= 00:36 via eth1 Jun=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd:=0A> DHCPREQUEST for 10.0.0.32 (= 10.0.0.1) from 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1=0A> Jun=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd: = DHCPACK on 10.0.0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:00:36=0A> via eth1 Jun=A0 6 11:38:25 nf= s mountd[2120]: authenticated mount=0A> request from 10.0.0.32:1023 for /ww= wbladebsd (/wwwbladebsd) (around=0A> 30-40 from these NFS mount messages in= the log).=0A> =0A> The NFS server is a linux box right now.=0A> =0A> The d= hcpd.conf:=0A> host blade1 {=0A> =A0 hardware ethernet 00:30:48:8d:00:36;= =0A> =A0 fixed-address 10.0.0.32;=0A> =A0 server-name "10.0.0.1";=0A> =A0 f= ilename "/bsd/pxeboot";=0A> =A0 next-server 10.0.0.1;=0A> =A0 option root-p= ath "/wwwbladebsd/";=0A> }=0A> =0A> i'm using "atftpd" with /tftpboot as ro= ot directory. /tftpboot/bsd/=0A> is a symlink to the root system's /boot .= =0A> =0A> I've NFS-exported /wwwbladebsd/, and that seems to work.=0A> =0A>= The question is, why loader is unable to load the kernel?=0A> How could I = force the loader to use tftp instead of NFS?=0A> =0A> Or using any other so= lutions, how can I make this box boot?=0A> If I've left out outsomething fr= om here, please tell me, I will post=0A> it.=0A> =0A> Thanks in advance.=0A= > =0A> =0A=0A=0A-- =0A=0ASincerely,=0A=0AGergely CZUCZY,=0AHarmless Digital= =0Amailto: gergely.czuczy@harmless.hu=0A=0ALegacy software is software that= works.=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 06:39:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061EA1065683 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 06:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from letter2steve@yahoo.com) Received: from web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FE8A8FC2F for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 06:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from letter2steve@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 75419 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jun 2008 06:39:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=ZFBUd7gT/xaGyUQORagDP76l0AEDBqG91/eCh5uevF/z2CWEJ3YEOZjCY+Q0A/B+2A5/FLbxG5Mu3NLQJin+2i0635YhF9oKNbsnqHpF/ZTOv0wwDkeJ1MZdV1Z5XLnraZDIefdN0h+ADuAO2mRR3ZaUuPfso5WNE73dQ8Aqc70=; Received: from [99.229.214.164] by web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:39:06 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:39:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Quinn To: Gonzalo Nemmi In-Reply-To: <200806090004.14239.gnemmi@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <788677.75096.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting up a VPN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: letter2steve@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 06:39:09 -0000 --- On Sun, 6/8/08, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > Please _do_ send them to this list or throw a pointer at > where they are at ! > I'm sure more people than you can think of will find > them usefull. > I, for once, could really use them :) > Hi Gonzalo, all I knew I should have done that in the first place, sorry :-) They were embarrassingly messy so I resisted I just fixed them up a bit I hope they can be of help See OpenVPN from http://www.isgsp.net/freebsd/index.html Take care Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 06:50:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4A31065670 for ; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've tried also specifing the IP for root-path, but as it seems, the hosts defaults to server-name or next-server (these are the same for me), so it's= not neccessery to specify the IP in root-path. Also the fileserver and the dhcp server are the same. You should have seen = this in the included config I gave. Furthermore, meanwhile we've noticed that loader fails to get the pxe varia= bles when the onboard raid is enabled, and it notices the PXE environment when t= he disks are not included in any RAID setups. Quite strange. On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:54:18 -0700 (PDT) mohammad khatibi wrote: > hi again > you said you use freebsd 7.0 so I told you to do these in freebsd ( that = you > install dhcp on it!!! to the end I call it pxeserver) not on your Linux > Server(and to the end I call your server that you want to boot from and m= ount > its / FileServer)!!! your dhcpd.conf is : > > host blade1 { > > =C2=A0 hardware ethernet 00:30:48:8d:00:36; > > =C2=A0 fixed-address 10.0.0.32; > > =C2=A0 server-name "10.0.0.1"; > I dont use it and nothing happend > > =C2=A0 filename "/bsd/pxeboot"; > you should=C2=A0place pxeboot where you specify as root-path and write he= re > "pxeboot" > > =C2=A0 next-server 10.0.0.1; > > =C2=A0 option root-path "/wwwbladebsd/"; > you should specify your root-path as follow : [FileServer IP]:/ > I use "/" because I couldn`t use any path and admonish you not to try > anywhere else because it doesn`t work!!! > > } > after these you should edit inetd in your pxeserver (freebsd)=20 > and you should make your pxeboot again if you want to use tftp that brief= ly > explain in that article please do=C2=A0above steps exactly and=C2=A0I hop= e you make > it !!! these are my 3 months of working on freebsd for pxeboot >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message ---- > From: CZUCZY Gergely > To: mohammad khatibi > Cc: CZUCZY Gergely > Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 8:56:47 AM > Subject: Re: PXE booting 7.0-R >=20 > On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:34:57 -0700 (PDT) > mohammad khatibi wrote: >=20 > > Hi=20 > > try using this lines in your /usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf instead of > > yours : subnet=C2=A0[your subnet IP] netmask=C2=A0[your netmask] { > > =C2=A0 range [start range] [finish range]; > > =C2=A0 next-server [your PXE server IP]; > > =C2=A0 filename "pxeboot"; > > =C2=A0 option root-path "[your Root server IP (if you mount your server > > root its obvious that your server IP)]:/"; } > Yes, I was exactly using these options. >=20 > >=20 > > and you should make change in your /etc/inetd.conf and comment out > > this line : tftp=C2=A0=C2=A0 dgram=C2=A0=C2=A0 udp wait=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 root=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 /usr/libexec/tftpd > > tftpd -l -s /tftpboot/ place your pxeboot and loader in /tftpboot/ > > and reboot your system it should solve your problem=20 > Sorry, but you've failed here. > 1) I stated the NFS(also tftp) server is Linux, and I'm not using it > from inetd. > 2) I wasn't asking how are _you_ doing it, the question was, what's > wrong with my setup. (After I know what's wrong I can fix it myself, > thanks) > 3) I've read articles, manuals, etc. I have a problem with it, it's not > working as it's supposed to. >=20 > Anyways, thanks for your efforts. >=20 > > but if you want to use tftp instead of nfs you should make your > > pxeboot and loader using tftp enable to do this you can read this > > article : http://www.ultradesic.com/index.php?section=3D72 but there is > > a mistake in this article : after you make new files are place here : > > pxeboot : /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/pxeldr/ > > loader : /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/ > > and you should export / and all its directory for successful > > loading . for more information you can read this article too. > > http://www.ultradesic.com/?section=3D144 I hope you make it=20 > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: CZUCZY Gergely > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Sent: Friday, June 6, 2008 1:17:08 PM > > Subject: PXE booting 7.0-R > >=20 > > Hello, > >=20 > > I'm trying to PXE boot 7.0-RELEASE, but it stops at a time. > >=20 > > At boot I see the following on the screen: > > BIOS drive C: is disk0 > > BIOS drive D: is disk1 > >=20 > > PXE version 2.1, real mode entry point @9188:0106 > > BIOS 517kB/3406144kB available memory > >=20 > > FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 > > (toor@myplace, date) > > pxe_open: server addr: 10.0.0.1 > > pxe_open: serve path: /wwwbladebsd/ > > pxe_open: gateway ip: 10.0.0.1 > > Consoles: internal video/keybaord > > BIOS drive C: is disk0 > > BIOS drive D: is diskl > > BIOS 517kB/3406144kB available memory > >=20 > > FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 > > (toor@myplace, date) > > Can't work out which disk we are booting from. > > Guessed BIOS device 0xffffffff not found by probes, defaulting to > > disk0 > >=20 > > can't loader 'kernel' > >=20 > > Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. > > OK lsdev > > cd devices: > > disk devices: > > disk0: BIOS drive C: > > disk1: BIOS drive D: > > pxe devices: > >=20 > > on the server I see t serving pxeboot via tftp, and mounting the root > > via NFS: Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:22 nfs dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from > > 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1 Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:22 nfs dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on > > 10.0.0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1 Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:24 nfs dhcpd: > > DHCPREQUEST for 10.0.0.32 (10.0.0.1) from 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1 > > Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:24 nfs dhcpd: DHCPACK on 10.0.0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:00:= 36 > > via eth1 Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:24 nfs atftpd[2221]: Serving /bsd/pxeboot to > > 10.0.0.32:2070 Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:24 nfs atftpd[2222]: Serving /bsd/pxeb= oot > > to 10.0.0.32:2071 Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from > > 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1 Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on > > 10.0.0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1 Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd: > > DHCPREQUEST for 10.0.0.32 (10.0.0.1) from 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1 > > Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd: DHCPACK on 10.0.0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:00:= 36 > > via eth1 Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs mountd[2120]: authenticated mount > > request from 10.0.0.32:1023 for /wwwbladebsd (/wwwbladebsd) (around > > 30-40 from these NFS mount messages in the log). > >=20 > > The NFS server is a linux box right now. > >=20 > > The dhcpd.conf: > > host blade1 { > > =C2=A0 hardware ethernet 00:30:48:8d:00:36; > > =C2=A0 fixed-address 10.0.0.32; > > =C2=A0 server-name "10.0.0.1"; > > =C2=A0 filename "/bsd/pxeboot"; > > =C2=A0 next-server 10.0.0.1; > > =C2=A0 option root-path "/wwwbladebsd/"; > > } > >=20 > > i'm using "atftpd" with /tftpboot as root directory. /tftpboot/bsd/ > > is a symlink to the root system's /boot . > >=20 > > I've NFS-exported /wwwbladebsd/, and that seems to work. > >=20 > > The question is, why loader is unable to load the kernel? > > How could I force the loader to use tftp instead of NFS? > >=20 > > Or using any other solutions, how can I make this box boot? > > If I've left out outsomething from here, please tell me, I will post > > it. > >=20 > > Thanks in advance. > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 --=20 =C3=9Cdv=C3=B6lettel, Czuczy Gergely Harmless Digital Bt mailto: gergely.czuczy@harmless.hu Tel: +36-30-9702963 --Sig_/MwODA8el9_EB=fXx79URFLO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFITNLEzrC0WyuMkpsRAnxVAJ0Re+dzKX4LHzWQHWGJnr9UgYv3HwCfeMmx BOQd1aJAWDlaxtCvEhSc8Ec= =mTKE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/MwODA8el9_EB=fXx79URFLO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 07:30:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FE4106566B for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:30:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD208FC18 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:30:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m597UOei027309; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:30:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m597UNLJ027297; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:30:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:30:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Steve Quinn In-Reply-To: <632387.64535.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080609092947.T27092@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <632387.64535.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Schiz0 , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting up a VPN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:30:32 -0000 > > I've recently implemented OpenVPN under FreeBSD > For our team, it's been rock solid > > I found the OpenVPN docs were excellent for Windohs/Linux but were lacking a little for BSD > while i don't know openvpn i use mpd (for windows interoperability) and vtun (for unix only) both works excellent. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 07:43:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39EB1065683; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:43:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A688FC2A; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:43:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m597hKnr034515; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:43:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m597hAbh034020; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:43:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:43:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ivan Voras In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080609093120.U27092@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608215648.Q9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608230131.00003da7@westmark> <20080609001010.G59013@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:43:43 -0000 > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> 2) ZFS RAID-z turns your X drives to single drive performance both on read >> and write. every normal RAID-5 implementation will give you random read >> speed of X-1 times single drive speed, while slow random write speeds (but >> still at least half of single drive). but this is advertised as a feature > > Is this because of checksum verification (the need to read all components) or nothing to checksum. sit down for a while and think. you have say 100 MB file linearly placed on position A on disk. and your program requests 100kB writes to possitions like 200kB*(between 0 and 499) randomly. ZFS will cache all it then blow all this as 50MB linear write" at position B on disk. then after some time (data not in cache) you like to read file linearly. what you get: read 100kB from position B, seek to position A to read 100kB, then to position B reading 100kB, then to position A etc. etc. LOTS of seeking. while reads are more common than writes on most cases ZFS make things worse. of course i told about good case where ZFS could find large continous space. if your drive is well filled it's unlikely. with UFS disk is divided for cylinder groups. so too - it's unlikely you will find large continuous space BUT there are very likely you will find large chunk of fragments withing same cylinder group which requires much shorter head movement. while really big blocks are forcibly splitted to different cylinder group, as having long seek every few megabytes isn't a problem. that's what UFS does for 20 years. the major improvement then was soft updates, now it is really fast even with small files. i just skipped talking about memory and CPU usage, because there is nothing to talk much. it's just make ZFS crap and nothing else. Today most people's problem are TOO FAST CPU and TOO MUCH MEMORY.Sun found the solution, just like windows. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 07:45:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC0F1065683 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2D78FC38 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:45:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m597jEQ6034838; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:45:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m597j9ZD034827; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:45:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:45:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ryan Nichols In-Reply-To: <484CA625.8020602@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080609094435.I27092@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484CA625.8020602@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on a CompactFlash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:45:31 -0000 > What im trying to figure out is the best way to install the OS on a compact > flash, put it as read only, then install a 2nd HDD to store the mysql > data,etc. What is the best way to do this? you have to use tmpfs for /tmp, /var/tmp, /var/run and probably /var/log. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 07:45:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EE51065670; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C848FC2D; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:45:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m597iL39034733; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:44:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m597iJvj034730; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:44:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:44:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Dan Nelson In-Reply-To: <20080608233315.GA33530@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: <20080609094333.H27092@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608215648.Q9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608230131.00003da7@westmark> <20080609001010.G59013@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608233315.GA33530@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Ivan Voras , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:45:47 -0000 >>> random write speeds (but still at least half of single drive). but >>> this is advertised as a feature >> >> Is this because of checksum verification (the need to read all >> components) or something else? Any documentation/references? > > RAID-Z stores a single checksum over the whole stripe, instead of > checksumming each disks's section separately, so it has to read from > all disks to validate the stripe. Only random reads are penalized, > though. random reads are most common read on unix, unless you process linearly huge files, but that's fast on UFS too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 08:42:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D9E106567A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9438FC13 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:42:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1009004ywe.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 01:42:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=UzSNgAk56L8ChmsJqZkfcNYh/BRPiTA1ehgfSHiEMKg=; b=GE1KZtGOOls2t2JdE14EET1+km9YEVudsKj1N+W5jCRpDGquoY95GgFAm/AyIMClqk pwNWNyUqyE1EkEHERElzv805wtPGtqqEpq2KGXODyIfV53y8Gq23isVXgSt1HQY/mtOY lsKzoOzvx7m0r1ZNqDm1qDmLDil+6Ox9mrJbY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=tA2r6E8swcHBekoorN+4WNfRlbPBq8N1zmpBwAuph7H2GZG1TbV3QbQLyd+UPWQ07o DPHWqHT94ARnwbJl9ABsbZnffbajrpaxsGuY7Y3Eaib2a7lmsaTsABjcjcJHDLL23H3H KQDqw8YaigF3zpicES07B1k/tOXkoHoo6Dn58= Received: by 10.150.156.20 with SMTP id d20mr5917646ybe.57.1213000937339; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 01:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.219.9 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 01:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <991123400806090142g663a99b0rf04243d934d36e3c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:42:17 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: Novembre In-Reply-To: <3b47caa90806082022g65e88d97q3fa3d99d3b790ddc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3b47caa90806082022g65e88d97q3fa3d99d3b790ddc@mail.gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:42:24 -0000 On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Novembre wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not > subscribed to the list and does not receive them in his mailbox? From time > to time, I see posts which I can actually answer and contribute to, but > since I'm not subscribed to the lists, even if I post an answer to the > person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with > other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this? > How do you receive them if you are not subscribed to the list? Some magic? What stops you from subscribing?:-) -- George Burns - "You can't help getting older, but you don't have to get old." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 08:49:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E191065679 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:49:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DFEC8FC32 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:49:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K5d41-0004wE-2g for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 01:49:17 -0700 Message-ID: <17728757.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 01:49:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Adamsonh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4849F2EF.8050807@enabled.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: adamson@polycastle.3322.org References: <4849F2EF.8050807@enabled.com> Subject: Re: stunnel not running? (check /var/run/stunnel/stunnel.pid) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:49:18 -0000 noahwallach wrote: > > Okay I am not understanding something with stunnel. it appears that > stunnel cant start because it cant create a pid file. It happens every > time I upgrade it. > > # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/stunnel restart > stunnel not running? (check /var/run/stunnel/stunnel.pid). > Starting stunnel. > # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/stunnel restart > stunnel not running? (check /var/run/stunnel/stunnel.pid). > Starting stunnel. > # > > Anybody help me understand things here. so here is the relevent output > which I can provide some clues. > > > # ls -ld /var/run/stunnel/ > drwxrwxr-x 2 stunnel stunnel 512 Jun 5 14:28 /var/run/stunnel/ > # cat /usr/local/etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf > # Sample stunnel configuration file > # Copyright by Michal Trojnara 2002 > > # Comment it out on Win32 > cert = /usr/local/etc/stunnel/mail.pem > chroot = /var/run/stunnel > #chroot = /var/run > # PID is created inside chroot jail > pid = /stunnel.pid > setuid = stunnel > setgid = stunnel > # grep stunnel /etc/rc.conf > stunnel_enable="YES" > # cat /usr/local/etc/rc.d/stunnel > #!/bin/sh > # > # $FreeBSD: ports/security/stunnel/files/stunnel.in,v 1.9 2008/01/26 > 14:18:12 roam Exp $ > # > > # PROVIDE: stunnel > # REQUIRE: NETWORKING SERVERS > # BEFORE: DAEMON > # KEYWORD: shutdown > > # > # Add some of the following variables to /etc/rc.conf to configure > stunnel: > # stunnel_enable (bool): Set to "NO" by default. > # Set it to "YES" to enable stunnel. > # stunnel_config (str): Default > "/usr/local/etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf" > # Set it to the full path to the config file > # that stunnel will use during the automated > # start-up. > # stunnel_pidfile (str): Default > "/usr/local/var/stunnel/stunnel.pid" > # Set it to the value of 'pid' in > # the stunnel.conf file. > # > > . /etc/rc.subr > > name="stunnel" > rcvar=`set_rcvar` > > load_rc_config $name > > : ${stunnel_enable="NO"} > : ${stunnel_config="/usr/local/etc/stunnel/${name}.conf"} > : ${stunnel_pidfile="/var/run/stunnel/${name}.pid"} > > command="/usr/local/bin/stunnel" > command_args=${stunnel_config} > pidfile=${stunnel_pidfile} > > required_files="${stunnel_config}" > > run_rc_command "$1" > > > > ------ > > any ideas? > > Cheers, > > Noah > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > ps auxw |grep stunnel sockstat -4 |grep stunnel clear anything stunnel before restart. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/stunnel-not-running--%28check--var-run-stunnel-stunnel.pid%29-tp17704688p17728757.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 08:58:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B641065670 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:58:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3D28FC13 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:58:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K5dDH-0005By-Ua for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 01:58:51 -0700 Message-ID: <17728870.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 01:58:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Adamsonh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8d23ec860806031204l34bee56k80ced31851516526@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: adamson@polycastle.3322.org References: <8d23ec860806031204l34bee56k80ced31851516526@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Setting up a VPN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:58:52 -0000 try sslexplorer, http://n3ncy.com/UNIX/FreeBSD/SSLExplorer.htm Schiz0 wrote: > > Hey, > > I'm looking for information on how to setup a Virtual Private Network > on a FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE system. The only VPNs that I've worked with > previously is Hamachi on windows and linux, so I have no experience in > OpenVPN or IPSec. > > The purpose of this VPN is to restrict certain things to only > administrators. For example, phpmyadmin and vsFTPd. I'd prefer not to > have these things listen on the public interface. > > I read the Handbook entry on IPSec/VPNs: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ipsec.html > > However, that entry only has examples for how to connect one network > to another network via FreeBSD gateways. I don't want a setup like > this; I just want the freebsd system, my windows XP system, and a few > other windows XP systems to be on a VPN together. > > Can anyone link me to how-tos or any references on how to do this? > Also, any suggestions on which software to use (OpenVPN, IPSec, etc) > would be appreciated. > > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Setting-up-a-VPN-tp17631631p17728870.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 09:05:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72208106564A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D688FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K5dJR-0005aI-88 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:05:13 -0700 Message-ID: <17728956.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 02:05:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Adamsonh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <484C4172.1020207@enabled.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: adamson@polycastle.3322.org References: <484C4172.1020207@enabled.com> Subject: Re: stunnel: warning: can't get client address: Bad file descriptor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:05:14 -0000 hi, stunnel 4.25 does not kill all stunnel instances after issuing "stop"; you have to kill all old stunnel jobs before restarting it. noahwallach wrote: > > Just upgraded stunnel and getting the following error message in the > /var/log/messages file. It appears that when I restart stunnel it > complains "Error binding pop3s to 0.0.0.0:995 and bind: Address already > in use (48)". therefore the 995 port never becomes available during the > restart. Why is that happening? She the stunel logs below. > > any clues? > > ---- snip --- > > Jun 8 13:17:04 stunnel: warning: can't get client address: Bad file > descriptor > Jun 8 13:17:34 last message repeated 530400 times > Jun 8 13:18:00 last message repeated 488687 times > > ---- snip --- > > > ---- here is the stunnel.log ----- > > n# tail -n 50 -f /var/log/stunnel.log > Jun 8 00:00:00 typhoon newsyslog[72831]: logfile turned over > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Snagged 64 random bytes from > /root/.rnd > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Wrote 1024 new random bytes > to /root/.rnd > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: RAND_status claims sufficient > entropy for the PRNG > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: PRNG seeded successfully > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Certificate: > /usr/local/etc/stunnel/mail.pem > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Certificate loaded > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Key file: > /usr/local/etc/stunnel/mail.pem > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Private key loaded > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: SSL context initialized for > service pop3s > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG5[21238:134664192]: stunnel 4.25 on > i386-unknown-freebsd6.2 with OpenSSL 0.9.8h 28 May 2008 > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG5[21238:134664192]: Threading:PTHREAD SSL:ENGINE > Sockets:POLL,IPv6 Auth:LIBWRAP > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG6[21238:134664192]: file ulimit = 11095 (can be > changed with 'ulimit -n') > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG6[21238:134664192]: poll() used - no FD_SETSIZE > limit for file descriptors > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG5[21238:134664192]: 5417 clients allowed > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: FD 5 in non-blocking mode > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: FD 6 in non-blocking mode > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: FD 7 in non-blocking mode > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: SO_REUSEADDR option set on > accept socket > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG3[21238:134664192]: Error binding pop3s to > 0.0.0.0:995 > 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG3[21238:134664192]: bind: Address already in use > (48) > > > --- configuration ------- > > # cat /usr/local/etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf > # Sample stunnel configuration file > # Copyright by Michal Trojnara 2002 > > # Comment it out on Win32 > cert = /usr/local/etc/stunnel/mail.pem > chroot = /var/run/stunnel > #chroot = /var/run > # PID is created inside chroot jail > pid = /stunnel.pid > setuid = stunnel > setgid = stunnel > # grep stunnel /etc/rc.conf > stunnel_enable="YES" > # cat /usr/local/etc/rc.d/stunnel > #!/bin/sh > # > # $FreeBSD: ports/security/stunnel/files/stunnel.in,v 1.9 2008/01/26 > 14:18:12 roam Exp $ > # > > # PROVIDE: stunnel > # REQUIRE: NETWORKING SERVERS > # BEFORE: DAEMON > # KEYWORD: shutdown > > # > # Add some of the following variables to /etc/rc.conf to configure > stunnel: > # stunnel_enable (bool): Set to "NO" by default. > # Set it to "YES" to enable stunnel. > # stunnel_config (str): Default > "/usr/local/etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf" > # Set it to the full path to the config file > # that stunnel will use during the automated > # start-up. > # stunnel_pidfile (str): Default > "/usr/local/var/stunnel/stunnel.pid" > # Set it to the value of 'pid' in > # the stunnel.conf file. > # > > . /etc/rc.subr > > name="stunnel" > rcvar=`set_rcvar` > > load_rc_config $name > > : ${stunnel_enable="NO"} > : ${stunnel_config="/usr/local/etc/stunnel/${name}.conf"} > : ${stunnel_pidfile="/var/run/stunnel/${name}.pid"} > > command="/usr/local/bin/stunnel" > command_args=${stunnel_config} > pidfile=${stunnel_pidfile} > > required_files="${stunnel_config}" > > run_rc_command "$1" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/stunnel%3A-warning%3A-can%27t-get-client-address%3A-Bad-file-descriptor-tp17722812p17728956.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 09:12:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4CE1065678 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:12:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75D68FC17 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5CD3507E; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:12:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:12:00 +0200 From: cpghost To: James Message-ID: <20080609111200.75197d59@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <7039ada60806082040s36afc2c8n4698402ac5d4ff29@mail.gmail.com> References: <7039ada60806082040s36afc2c8n4698402ac5d4ff29@mail.gmail.com> Organization: Cordula's Web X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Whine when EHCI controller enabled in BIOS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:12:05 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:40:17 -0600 James wrote: > I have a high pitched whine coming from my motherboard when the EHCI > USB 2.0 controller is enabled in the BIOS. The whine only starts once > FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE is halfway through booting. > > The whine also goes away when I plugin a USB drive in with EHCI > controller enabled (usb keyboard and mouse being already plugged in). > > Is this a hardware problem, or could it possibly be software > related??? Hard to tell. I've had whining EPIA-boards when run at 1000 Hz, and after switching kern.hz to 100 Hz in /boot/loader.conf, the high-pitched whine stopped entirely. It also stopped when I slightly deviated from the 1000 Hz (to, say, 900 Hz or 1100 Hz), so there was obviously some hardware component on the boards oscillating like mad at this very frequency. I'm no specialist and it may be an urban legend, but from what I gathered, some coils could exhibit the behavior of generating those high-pitched whines when exposed to certain frequencies. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 09:45:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4A2106567D for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:45:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (gwdu60.gwdg.de [134.76.8.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507798FC28 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:45:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.14.2/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m599KIul082895 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:20:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from localhost (kheuer2@localhost) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.14.2/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id m599KIwG082892 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:20:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) X-Authentication-Warning: gwdu60.gwdg.de: kheuer2 owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:20:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Konrad Heuer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080609111729.A79925@gwdu60.gwdg.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: FreeBSD and NFSv4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:45:39 -0000 Hello everyone, are there any experiences with FreeBSD being an NFSv4 client out there? And furthermore, is there any further development of NFSv4 functionality within FreeBSD to come closer to RFC 3530? Thanks for any reply and best regards Konrad Heuer GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, kheuer2@gwdg.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 10:12:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A38D106566B for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:12:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: from uranos.boku.ac.at (uranos.boku.ac.at [141.244.180.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AAA8FC23 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: by uranos.boku.ac.at (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 712983381C2; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:52:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on uranos.boku.ac.at X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.4 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uranos.boku.ac.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135AB3381C6 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:52:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from uranos.boku.ac.at ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (uranos.boku.ac.at [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13246-01-7 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:52:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [141.244.63.108] (unknown [141.244.63.108]) by uranos.boku.ac.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADFB338220 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:49:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484CFC61.3090504@verysmall.org> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:48:17 +0200 From: Iv Ray User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484CFC22.9050107@verysmall.org> In-Reply-To: <484CFC22.9050107@verysmall.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: powered by ZID at uranos.boku.ac.at Subject: Re: csup freezes on updating src to upgrade 6.2 to 6.3 or 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:12:38 -0000 Iv Ray wrote: > Windows VISTA BUSINESS 64-bit guest (core duo 3 GHz, 4 GB RAM) ^^^^^ host From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 10:12:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5141065671 for ; 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Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:50:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484CFC9B.4000701@verysmall.org> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:49:15 +0200 From: Iv Ray User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484CFC22.9050107@verysmall.org> In-Reply-To: <484CFC22.9050107@verysmall.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: powered by ZID at uranos.boku.ac.at Subject: Re: csup freezes on updating src to upgrade 6.2 to 6.3 or 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:12:38 -0000 Iv Ray wrote: > After restarting the 6.2 host ^^^^ guest From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 10:12:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D8B106564A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:12:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: from uranos.boku.ac.at (uranos.boku.ac.at [141.244.180.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689578FC15 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:12:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: by uranos.boku.ac.at (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DFDAA3381BD; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:51:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on uranos.boku.ac.at X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.4 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uranos.boku.ac.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A4F3381F6 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:51:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from uranos.boku.ac.at ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (uranos.boku.ac.at [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14021-01-2 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:51:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [141.244.63.108] (unknown [141.244.63.108]) by uranos.boku.ac.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FAF3381B8 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:48:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484CFC22.9050107@verysmall.org> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:47:14 +0200 From: Iv Ray User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: powered by ZID at uranos.boku.ac.at Subject: csup freezes on updating src to upgrade 6.2 to 6.3 or 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:12:39 -0000 Hello all, I have the following configuration - FreeBSD 6.2 (minimal install) Running in VMware 6.x Windows VISTA BUSINESS 64-bit guest (core duo 3 GHz, 4 GB RAM) supfile-stable is edited just with the domain (cvs.at) and the version (6_3 or 7_0). csup with this supfile runs for some time, then the virtual machine freezes and the host shows 100% CPU use. After restarting the 6.2 host 2-3 times and csup again, eventually csup completes. Could somebody advice me what might be going wrong? Thank you, Iv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 10:20:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52B0106567B for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:20:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: from uranos.boku.ac.at (uranos.boku.ac.at [141.244.180.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A728FC13 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:20:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: by uranos.boku.ac.at (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DC6F233812F; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:20:19 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on uranos.boku.ac.at X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.4 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uranos.boku.ac.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ECC43381BA for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:20:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from uranos.boku.ac.at ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (uranos.boku.ac.at [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18983-01-7 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:20:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [141.244.63.108] (unknown [141.244.63.108]) by uranos.boku.ac.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029153381DA for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:19:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484D0340.5050603@verysmall.org> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:17:36 +0200 From: Iv Ray User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484CFC22.9050107@verysmall.org> In-Reply-To: <484CFC22.9050107@verysmall.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: powered by ZID at uranos.boku.ac.at Subject: Re: csup freezes on updating src to upgrade 6.2 to 6.3 or 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:20:22 -0000 Just did some tests and found out the same - csup freezes when the Free memory ends (the virtual machine has 512 MB RAM). Is this a known issue, and is there a workaround? Thank you, Iv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 11:00:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2298D1065677 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:00:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-unix@embarqmail.com) Received: from mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com [208.47.184.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8BF8FC12 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:00:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-unix@embarqmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1213008048; h=From:Subject:Date:To:Mime-Version:Content-Type; bh=9rrEpW3aXBhedg06cAWCd5sw+uQ=; b=PPyG7xSsSi/KDPjMvA0Dd47MQkn5AEpocNs8MgQI0VtHfNCC2e7fCcscosIvnKLv n8VGblC3veKZr1FORWjvcKj7kVIVb7ENN7KKdGdeDqBD5WaLIy7CxZBb9LOVwHja; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=NECecxYrsG0A:10 a=H5TQDsX4cnMA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=9mA9YG0FYO_jkvp9bKgA:9 a=jrSsNCaDwg78LUyV79MA:7 a=Bsy89xh351Wdfrj9Imz-_WlLhssA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=rpratt1950@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [74.4.72.185] ([74.4.72.185:54369] helo=kt.weeeble.com) by mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.1.28 r(22594)) with ESMTPA id 42/EF-08696-0B80D484; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 06:40:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 06:40:47 -0400 From: Randy Pratt To: Novembre Message-Id: <20080609064047.b74f4b95.bsd-unix@embarqmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3b47caa90806082022g65e88d97q3fa3d99d3b790ddc@mail.gmail.com> References: <3b47caa90806082022g65e88d97q3fa3d99d3b790ddc@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:00:50 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:22:24 -0500 Novembre wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not > subscribed to the list and does not receive them in his mailbox? From time > to time, I see posts which I can actually answer and contribute to, but > since I'm not subscribed to the lists, even if I post an answer to the > person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with > other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this? If you are reading the mailing lists via the FreeBSD website (http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-questions.html) you can use the "Raw E-Mail" link of a posting to fetch a copy and incorporate it into your mail client. Two common mail formats are pine mail (one file per folder), and MH mail (one file per message). I use Sylpheed which uses MH mail format so its quite easy. I created a folder called "Mail/web-list" and fetch the mail directly to it. The trick is to use the next numerical message number, in this example "114": cd ~/Mail/web-list fetch -R -o 114 'http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=422834+0+current/freebsd-questions+raw' It is then possible to just use Sylpheed normally and click on "Reply to All". The mail will be properly threaded for the mailing lists. I've not used the "one file per folder" type of mail client in a very long time but I would think that just appending the new mail to the end would suffice. You will need to investigate how your particular mail client operates and what format it uses, but what you want to do is possible. I would recommend backing up your mail before experimenting and using the test mailing list (freebsd-test@freebsd.org). HTH, Randy -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 11:59:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D491065673 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from mail46.e.nsc.no (mail46.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C7E8FC21 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from [62.16.185.247] (062016185247.customer.alfanett.no [62.16.185.247]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail46.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m59Bx3WF012825; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:59:03 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <484D1B1C.9020909@next.online.no> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:59:24 +0200 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080229) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Novembre , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3b47caa90806082022g65e88d97q3fa3d99d3b790ddc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3b47caa90806082022g65e88d97q3fa3d99d3b790ddc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:59:06 -0000 Novembre wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not > subscribed to the list and does not receive them in his mailbox? From time > to time, I see posts which I can actually answer and contribute to, but > since I'm not subscribed to the lists, even if I post an answer to the > person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with > other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this? Besides what Randy wrote, several mailing lists are mirrored to newsgroups. I subscribe to muc.lists.freebsd.questions, even though I am subscribed to the list. (I prefer not to receive all that stuff as e-mail.) When answering a post, I have to edit the addresses, but my answer is then threaded properly. -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 12:07:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20251065674; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nejc@skoberne.net) Received: from delusion.skoberne.net (lk.84.20.249.154.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net [84.20.249.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13938FC13; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:07:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nejc@skoberne.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by delusion.skoberne.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD44B878; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:59:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from delusion.skoberne.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (delusion.skoberne.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 88946-01; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:59:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.15.2] (simian.skoberne.local [192.168.15.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: nejkopejko@skoberne.net) by delusion.skoberne.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03B7B823; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:59:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484D1B2F.7020805@skoberne.net> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:59:43 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TmVqYyDFoGtvYmVybmU=?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions References: <3b93bd110805111607p29f5ff4etf78386e880f8a9d4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard Cc: Ivan Voras Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7 on Windows 2008 (Hyper-V) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:07:41 -0000 Hello, I am also (very) interested in running FreeBSD under HyperV since HyperV will liberate itself from Windows Server soon after the final release (it will not depend on an preliminary Windows Server installation but will be "standalone" and practically free of charge, which makes it (for me) a very interesting solution). >> Im trying to set up a FreeBSD VM under Hyper-V but i the instalation >> do not start. i try x86 and x64 boot disk only (for a net install). >> The error i got is "cant load kernel". >> >> Im a novice on FreeBSD but i have set up a few small server with it. Any idea? > > You didn't say which version of FreeBSD you are trying. > > Please try a snapshot of 8-CURRENT (from > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/) to see if anything > changes. There have been improvements to the boot loader recently. I've heard that it works (at least boots) with 8-CURRENT. Are there plans to include support for FreeBSD 7.x branch too? That would be really cool. Yes, I know, patches are welcome. Thanks, Nejc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 12:12:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCAA9106568D for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WX=50118bc6@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F71B8FC22 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WX=50118bc6@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89D3163DFB for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E13223E4C3 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:56:13 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080609125613.247b15bb@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <200806082019.04350.af300wsm@gmail.com> References: <200806082019.04350.af300wsm@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Networking issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:12:27 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:19:04 -0600 Andrew Falanga wrote: > Hello, > > I have, for some time, been able to ssh into my father's FreeBSD > machine in the Road Runner network in Central New York. Last night, > I tried so that I could fix a problem for him and ssh timed out. No > problem I thought, his modem has a different IP than the one I have > in my /etc/hosts file, but this turned to not be the case. > > Well, after some digging, I did a traceroute to his IP address. The > packets went all over the place, from San Jose, to Colorado, back to > San Jose, to Colorado then to Ohio, then to Denver, then to San Jose, > then to Ohio, etc. (you get the idea). This is not necessarily wrong, I used to have a dialup account where connections within the UK would go often go to London, then go round a tour of Western Europe, and then come back through London. Although there probably is a fault in your case since you can't connect. > First, my DSL modems IP is 71.221.172.38, however, the default route > appears to be 67.41.38.201. I think Point-to-Point links just work like that, with arbitrary addresses on either end of the link. My address and gateway have only the first byte in common. > [/usr/home/andy] > -> traceroute -n 67.41.38.201 > traceroute to 67.41.38.201 (67.41.38.201), 64 hops max, 52 byte > packets 1 * * * > 2 67.41.38.201 40.303 ms * 39.421 ms > > Why on earth would there be delays on the first hop when not using > name resolution? I don't see what name resolution has to do with the delay, the 39ms is the round-trip time to the gateway at the ISP. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 12:45:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE461065670 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:45:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7588FC15 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so597075tid.3 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:45:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=WUZc79ZiDm6s2W6YMIBlWmjEKcBjqzj+EIcY9LX3KtY=; b=buo8cuzkc2ddKHjWxeGbkB4JpChvVuTme5A+EImTfwIzjFQ035Rzf3faPrThmIXKfZ mu+rFL7JFRtTDuFC42By6NgGhhSPVOJVgB/B7ZuOdd+M1smowtmEOXIDbt+pDqB52E6H M8oRQme1TQGKTWl7kKV5RXhMTwXTB67glQBdc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=mVJ2+PmlE35GWBYS684iihKthCAIhyxIlHhrgKTwpXtrA1gs1vU9+EJGCitkXdWCL8 ycA1NdZTdCSWz18AGpxRm1KelUa6Wb5Jy2DHYVx3ohBnDMkrunC89rDu0B9Wd/ZpijYh vMfCrtlTBf/bJQunSXULy8Wz1Jbd5Z9nS5lu0= Received: by 10.110.68.10 with SMTP id q10mr791236tia.37.1213015520674; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.110.61.7 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 05:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5635aa0d0806090545g5f26576aic00c6d621183d809@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:45:20 +0700 From: "Outback Dingo" To: "=?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Nejc_=8Akoberne?=" In-Reply-To: <484D1B2F.7020805@skoberne.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3b93bd110805111607p29f5ff4etf78386e880f8a9d4@mail.gmail.com> <484D1B2F.7020805@skoberne.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: User Questions , Ivan Voras Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7 on Windows 2008 (Hyper-V) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:45:22 -0000 Ok heres the best solution, Im not even a big linux fan but install Ubuntu Server KVM, then install windows and FreeBSD 6, 7 or 8 Linux KVM just works, ive had 0 issues with FreeBSD under KVM with bridged networking. On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Nejc =8Akoberne wrote: > Hello, > > I am also (very) interested in running FreeBSD under HyperV since HyperV > will > liberate itself from Windows Server soon after the final release (it will > not depend > on an preliminary Windows Server installation but will be "standalone" an= d > practically free of charge, which makes it (for me) a very interesting > solution). > > > Im trying to set up a FreeBSD VM under Hyper-V but i the instalation >>> do not start. i try x86 and x64 boot disk only (for a net install). >>> The error i got is "cant load kernel". >>> >>> Im a novice on FreeBSD but i have set up a few small server with it. An= y >>> idea? >>> >> >> You didn't say which version of FreeBSD you are trying. >> >> Please try a snapshot of 8-CURRENT (from >> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/) to see if anything >> changes. There have been improvements to the boot loader recently. >> > > I've heard that it works (at least boots) with 8-CURRENT. Are there plans > to > include support for FreeBSD 7.x branch too? That would be really cool. Ye= s, > I > know, patches are welcome. > > Thanks, > Nejc > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 12:54:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834D0106567C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:54:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CD98FC14 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:54:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-0000133400000330-0d-484d283b6f59 Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:55:23 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:53:08 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20080609041515.GB61635@sentinelchicken.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Whine when EHCI controller enabled in BIOS Thread-Index: AcjJ54ibF3QwaA/HS+6LjmtupmUC7AAR708g References: <7039ada60806082040s36afc2c8n4698402ac5d4ff29@mail.gmail.com> <20080609041515.GB61635@sentinelchicken.net> From: "Bob McConnell" To: "Jason Morgan" , X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: Subject: RE: Whine when EHCI controller enabled in BIOS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:54:27 -0000 On Behalf Of Jason Morgan > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 09:40:17PM -0600, James wrote: >> I have a high pitched whine coming from my motherboard when the EHCI >> USB 2.0 controller is enabled in the BIOS. The whine only starts once >> FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE is halfway through booting. >>=20 >> The whine also goes away when I plugin a USB drive in with EHCI >> controller enabled (usb keyboard and mouse being already plugged in). >>=20 >> Is this a hardware problem, or could it possibly be software related??? >=20 > I can't imagine this is a software issue. Sounds strange. Have you > tried to see if it isn't a fan issue? We have some Dell GX280s with a > bad batch of motherboards at my university---under specific conditions > (e.g., using certain video cards) the system fan will spin up 'til the > system sounds like it's about to take off. One of the device probes during startup could be sending what appears to be a full speed command to the fan controller. Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 12:55:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EF11065678 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:55:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A19848FC30 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:55:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 78029 invoked by uid 89); 9 Jun 2008 12:55:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 9 Jun 2008 12:55:37 -0000 Message-ID: <484D2837.80703@ibctech.ca> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:55:19 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: erpa1119 References: <17709547.post@talk.nabble.com> <484AA20B.2070500@ibctech.ca> <17709899.post@talk.nabble.com> <484AAB41.9060605@ibctech.ca> <17710294.post@talk.nabble.com> <17710677.post@talk.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <17710677.post@talk.nabble.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wireless help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:55:15 -0000 > ifconfig This looks ok. Mind you, I'm not all that up on wireless, so I don't know if that could be part of your issue. > arp > ? (192.168.1.3) at (incomplete) on ath0 [ethernet] > ? (192.168.1.254) at (incomplete) on ath0 [ethernet] This is generally telling you that you have recently attempted to communicate to the IP's, and address resolution is in progress (and in your case, most likely will timeout). The rest of your message is irrelevant at this point, since you can't even resolve the layer 2 addresses on the local link. I'd have to say at this point that either there is a problem with the wireless config on the FreeBSD machine, or there is a firewall on the machine blocking your traffic. Does the linksys show you as connected? If you enable DHCP on the linksys, does it register a client lease for the box? If you cable yourself directly to the Linksys (as opposed to wireless) with the same IP configuration, does it work then? Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 13:29:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1711065670 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C4D8FC16 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:29:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K5hRA-0000tC-G2; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:29:33 +0100 Received: from mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.184.33]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1K5hR9-000265-LE; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:29:27 +0100 Received: from mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m59DTRjU021003; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:29:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m59DTQbA020989; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:29:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:29:26 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20080609132926.GA18121@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Kris Kennaway , Tobias Hoellrich , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080605132106.GA51988@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> <20080605135015.GA52233@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> <4847F31B.7090404@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4847F31B.7090404@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: Tobias Hoellrich , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: size of executable - g95 vs gfortran42 - shared libs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:29:35 -0000 On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 04:07:23PM +0200, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >g95.out: > > libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5 (0x280c5000) > > libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x280db000) > > ^-- this one doesn't link to a dynamic fortran library, so it is > presumably statically linked, explaining the size. Look into how the > file was constructed (e.g. the command used to link the binary). > Kris, many thanks. I have confirmed this with Andy Vaught (g95 main developer). -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 13:31:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DA210656A8 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:31:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10E38FC2A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:31:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so516648ana.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 06:31:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=woKWz1qoToiY9+Fj0SN8GpAPdA7T2VG0QYfYNOh9bJE=; b=cjGkPznzJV8dNtH3+xfe8udJMJp1GN+DEv3+YQt6dzet8kHsD7P4teKNT2BeyCOJwr pu3uSfNgK02RpD6yYXjeGrWsTm4ayNmdcAspagWKQWLRtzvkSTjgxHlt8GNww948Ks9X dF5LuElyaIV3PRF/H768G3Lfi5zY34GepMtZ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=iVrOqWvMLhFIMNLrIbUzSaSfeDYB92qDeKkkYcxdofa5Ye5/1ACZ+NEVGjQUiUUVTL xQofQ7+k64zzlmKyoDn22kvLLAsD0pZhr877qwaPHKuh9Dj0N3xoEVjhSwD37AehrkwP ygmFp6qTq/LaxbaQnHvr+wl/dWeNgKZ/SPyBk= Received: by 10.100.31.3 with SMTP id e3mr3595727ane.64.1213018261922; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 06:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.164.19 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 06:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35f70db10806090631g7e2d5b95ya18c4437b0d9bdd5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:31:01 +0200 From: "Ross Cameron" Sender: abalour@gmail.com To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" In-Reply-To: <484CC33C.30708@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <484CC33C.30708@gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3b9b9037e2469bae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: forcing thunderbird to download old gmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:31:03 -0000 In the Gmail web interface: Settings -=> Forwarding and POP/IMAP -=> Enable POP for all mail This isn't a Thunderbird issue. On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > I just switched machines and want to force thunderbird to download > everything in my "All Mail" folder on gmail.... I tried unreading and/or > moving it to my inbox and tb still only dl'ed stuff that was newer then the > last time I downloaded last... any ideas? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 13:38:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9420E10656CB for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:38:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: from uranos.boku.ac.at (uranos.boku.ac.at [141.244.180.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F85A8FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:38:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: by uranos.boku.ac.at (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DE06433812B; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:38:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on uranos.boku.ac.at X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.4 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uranos.boku.ac.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE337338133 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:38:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from uranos.boku.ac.at ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (uranos.boku.ac.at [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13303-05 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:38:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [141.244.63.108] (unknown [141.244.63.108]) by uranos.boku.ac.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021BB33812C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:38:52 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484D320A.3090905@verysmall.org> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:37:14 +0200 From: Iv Ray User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: powered by ZID at uranos.boku.ac.at Subject: is it possible to install FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:38:59 -0000 Hello everybody, I am trying to build a VMware twin of an existing production server running FreeBSD 6.2. I have a 6.2 boot only ISO. The installation from FTP works well, but I have some strange issues - (i. e. csup when pulling the 6.3 sources freezes the OS and completes after two restarts, make buildworld crashes, etc.). I normally I move with the RELEASE versions and I have never had such problems the last 2-4 years. Could it be that I am doing something wrong, or simply versions outside of RELEASE are to be treated differently? Thank you, Iv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 13:41:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDCD1065670 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:41:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberto.nunnari@supsi.ch) Received: from ti-edu.ch (posta.ti-edu.ch [195.176.176.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A808FC13 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberto.nunnari@supsi.ch) X-Virus-Scanned: by cgpav Received: from [193.5.152.27] (HELO [127.0.0.1]) by ti-edu.ch (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTP id 26549551; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:41:20 +0200 Message-ID: <484D3344.6050402@supsi.ch> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:42:28 +0200 From: Roberto Nunnari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Outback Dingo References: <3b93bd110805111607p29f5ff4etf78386e880f8a9d4@mail.gmail.com> <484D1B2F.7020805@skoberne.net> <5635aa0d0806090545g5f26576aic00c6d621183d809@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5635aa0d0806090545g5f26576aic00c6d621183d809@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Ivan Voras , User Questions , =?windows-1252?Q?Nejc_=8Akoberne?= Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7 on Windows 2008 (Hyper-V) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:41:24 -0000 Same here. -- Robi Outback Dingo wrote: > Ok heres the best solution, Im not even a big linux fan but install Ubuntu > Server KVM, > then install windows and FreeBSD 6, 7 or 8 Linux KVM just works, ive had 0 > issues > with FreeBSD under KVM with bridged networking. > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Nejc Škoberne wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I am also (very) interested in running FreeBSD under HyperV since HyperV >> will >> liberate itself from Windows Server soon after the final release (it will >> not depend >> on an preliminary Windows Server installation but will be "standalone" and >> practically free of charge, which makes it (for me) a very interesting >> solution). >> >> >> Im trying to set up a FreeBSD VM under Hyper-V but i the instalation >>>> do not start. i try x86 and x64 boot disk only (for a net install). >>>> The error i got is "cant load kernel". >>>> >>>> Im a novice on FreeBSD but i have set up a few small server with it. Any >>>> idea? >>>> >>> You didn't say which version of FreeBSD you are trying. >>> >>> Please try a snapshot of 8-CURRENT (from >>> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/) to see if anything >>> changes. There have been improvements to the boot loader recently. >>> >> I've heard that it works (at least boots) with 8-CURRENT. Are there plans >> to >> include support for FreeBSD 7.x branch too? That would be really cool. Yes, >> I >> know, patches are welcome. >> >> Thanks, >> Nejc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 14:01:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD13810656B7 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827EB8FC15 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so519940ana.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:01:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=zx+QcBVy5/ENa+mH/qSN5rgIoXRFKZ/5QJYTa/tKgpI=; b=b2Lie6xhmaoHuneG9liKmqCe1hB/qNvCWia+l1ambB0Xw9HA1EyfooQ8lreEEzChUR NvEZSuf/DDnnR+YKDNPhEw2CrAN0tbzZ6PVdOKtRvbCKzUxcbmQqqO8AC53Ajl+rL9n0 zQW0dxuNcxR47hgDkKBU0VOHjwCEhm28TDEMg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=CZZ733FZmGejlpNXQmU5GDhaeOCOhaB/ZSCRela0lfTC99SO2cBIAGNbDbUeQdDbc8 HAXj6c9TAE32QrvMch7EWxa/o18/EPQHi80ln48tAqS/7oC5cjnNqT0QQnqKlasg2uE8 VZAoJwFWrij3bI0tBvZ2MhXAm9hz3c//gzsj4= Received: by 10.100.201.16 with SMTP id y16mr2408723anf.90.1213018434039; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 06:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.164.19 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 06:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35f70db10806090633u653ea4a6n9c7e7613d5368f52@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:33:54 +0200 From: "Ross Cameron" Sender: abalour@gmail.com To: dfeustel@mindspring.com In-Reply-To: <20080608215728.B8CA58FC19@mx1.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080608215728.B8CA58FC19@mx1.freebsd.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a46543c1847a9637 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Playing back motion jpeg saved by firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:01:03 -0000 video.cgi is not the video you were watching it is a partial code segment from the web server you were browsing. there is no such video encapsulation type as a .cgi file, they are common gateway interface scripts/executables. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 11:57 PM, wrote: > I just discovered that firefox can save motion video > in addition to displaying it. But I don't know how > to play back the saved video.cgi file. Mplayer > complains about missing configuration data. > > Does anyone know how to play back the file saved > by firefox? > > Is there some other mailing list to which I should > post this question? > > Thanks, > Dave Feustel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 14:07:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CC81065676 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwm-freebsd-questions@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FC58FC19 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:07:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwm-freebsd-questions@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Jun 2008 10:07:13 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id JZU86823; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:07:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-209-180.c3-0.bkl-ubr2.sbo-bkl.ma.static.cable.rcn.com (HELO sentinelchicken.net) ([207.172.209.180]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Jun 2008 10:07:06 -0400 Received: (qmail 83741 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2008 14:06:21 -0000 Received: from aeryn.skepsi.net (HELO crichton.skepsi.net) (10.0.0.101) by aeryn.skepsi.net with SMTP; 9 Jun 2008 14:06:21 -0000 Received: (nullmailer pid 83738 invoked by uid 1000); Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:06:21 -0000 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:06:21 -0400 From: Jason Morgan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080609140621.GA83699@sentinelchicken.net> References: <200806090004.14239.gnemmi@gmail.com> <788677.75096.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <788677.75096.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090208.484D3910.022E,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2007-10-30 19:00:17, dmn=5.4.3/2008-02-01 X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: Setting up a VPN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:07:15 -0000 On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 11:39:06PM -0700, Steve Quinn wrote: > --- On Sun, 6/8/08, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > > > Please _do_ send them to this list or throw a pointer at > > where they are at ! > > I'm sure more people than you can think of will find > > them usefull. > > I, for once, could really use them :) > > > > Hi Gonzalo, all > > I knew I should have done that in the first place, sorry :-) > They were embarrassingly messy so I resisted > > I just fixed them up a bit > I hope they can be of help > > See OpenVPN from http://www.isgsp.net/freebsd/index.html > > Take care > > Steve Excellent, Steve. Thanks a lot. Cheers, ~Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 14:09:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408F810656B9 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from urandomdev@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A2E8FC2B for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from urandomdev@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2018380wfg.7 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:09:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=OpdksjEqavoZNEse8UY6OdR6o7F18733NNrt/Zfwt3s=; b=Y9FXVsm0jYEDHW+nSlwhHeaSXnsEQ1DYhFZvjgpeejtyamGBoYIGBOK3IOP7NkRjmo aI/z46Yxh/K60YtNNJKKkbCrPwCbfNthXs2pbYFXIlyZ4w0fAHoJFeoiXpM8uX6UK969 HKDevLr0UdEj+nht6SxD+VKa8aRtgMons0u4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=fDisB3jByhMEy0b+wtWTvDfHLz9LlIPrepQ+DAMy/fS4yTqMMxjKM2dXkee75Uxkoh ubUqOmMc4MJCTZuYnQW7+yKDtsLbW8MXdAwOo5AZ2lymQLOMRNnljWd0vvsL6nojxxIe zi3XrdhSy/mGJwRbXbiJijUwFP1GPmuPP4jAA= Received: by 10.142.126.17 with SMTP id y17mr1461184wfc.170.1213020549810; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.148.4 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <648d054e0806090709l68f8948cmd168985f9ac2a379@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:09:09 +0200 From: "Simon Jolle" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: FreeBSD way of installing old version from ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:09:10 -0000 Hi FreeBSD users Currently in /usr/ports/sysutils/syslog-ng there is version syslog-ng 1.6.12. I need version syslog-ng 1.6.5 (the same as in production environment) to test configuration changes. Is there an archive of the ports tree? Whats the FreeBSD way to install this old version integrated in the rest of the system? cheers Simon -- XMPP: sjolle@swissjabber.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 14:18:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD96C106564A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:18:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: from uranos.boku.ac.at (uranos.boku.ac.at [141.244.180.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 892E08FC19 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:18:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: by uranos.boku.ac.at (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A7405338134; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:18:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on uranos.boku.ac.at X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.4 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uranos.boku.ac.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B4633812C; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:17:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from uranos.boku.ac.at ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (uranos.boku.ac.at [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17993-04; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:17:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [141.244.63.108] (unknown [141.244.63.108]) by uranos.boku.ac.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110C6338125; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:17:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484D3B33.3010004@verysmall.org> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:16:19 +0200 From: Iv Ray User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Jolle References: <648d054e0806090709l68f8948cmd168985f9ac2a379@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <648d054e0806090709l68f8948cmd168985f9ac2a379@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: powered by ZID at uranos.boku.ac.at Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD way of installing old version from ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:18:01 -0000 Simon Jolle wrote: > What is the FreeBSD way to > install this old version integrated in the rest of the system? If 1.6.12 was already installed, I would use portdowngrade. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 14:23:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8871065672 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:23:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71198FC21 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:23:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5A498EBC08; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:22:44 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: "Simon Jolle" Message-Id: <20080609102244.b36133b0.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <648d054e0806090709l68f8948cmd168985f9ac2a379@mail.gmail.com> References: <648d054e0806090709l68f8948cmd168985f9ac2a379@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD way of installing old version from ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:23:26 -0000 In response to "Simon Jolle" : > Hi FreeBSD users > > Currently in /usr/ports/sysutils/syslog-ng there is version syslog-ng > 1.6.12. I need version syslog-ng 1.6.5 (the same as in production > environment) to test configuration changes. > > Is there an archive of the ports tree? Whats the FreeBSD way to > install this old version integrated in the rest of the system? Looks through the CVS logs (you can use the web interface or Dan's freshports: http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/syslog-ng/) Find the date of the version you want, then configure your supfile to grab the ports tree from that date. Something like: date=2004.08.28.10.00.00 should get what you want. When cvsup is done running, you'll be able to run make install from the syslog-ng directory to install that version ... assuming that distfile is still readily available. If it's not, you'll have to do some web searches until you find it manually. Some projects are really good about keeping old distfiles around, other are not. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 14:25:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BBC91065674 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:25:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FE08FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:25:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl116-224.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.235.224]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-4) with ESMTP id m59EOuaH024851 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:25:03 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m59EOt5U063346 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:24:55 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m59EOsvd063345; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:24:55 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484C3CC4.7050107@webrz.net> <20080608221328.U9955@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608225023.GD54922@ma.sigsys.de> <20080608230712.GA24307@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:24:54 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20080608230712.GA24307@ayn.mi.celestial.com> (Bill Campbell's message of "Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:07:12 -0700") Message-ID: <87od6an0sp.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m59EOuaH024851 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.744, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.66, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Grep Guru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:25:12 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:07:12 -0700, Bill Campbell wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2008, Raphael Becker wrote: >>On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:15:50PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> find . -type f -print0|xargs -0 grep >> >>There's no more need for find | xargs >> >>Try: >> >>find . -type -f -exec grep {} \+ >> >>-exec foo {} \+ behaves like xargs foo >>-exec foo {} \; exec foo for every file > > The issue here is that grep execs grep for each file found while > xargs batches the files. The \+ trick behaves like xargs, so this shouldn't be an issue :) > This is of particular importance if one wants to see the file > names in the output. You can ensure the same even if xargs picks up a single file to grep with xargs -0 grep pattern /dev/null This will cost an open() / read() pair for each batch of files, but it ensures that grep will always see at least two file names, and it should print the filename of any matching files. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 14:25:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F121065670 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stevan_tiefert@yahoo.de) Received: from n2.bullet.mail.re3.yahoo.com (n2.bullet.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.237.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C9CE08FC0A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stevan_tiefert@yahoo.de) Received: from [68.142.237.90] by n2.bullet.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2008 06:04:48 -0000 Received: from [66.196.97.133] by t6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2008 14:12:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp106.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2008 14:12:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 743892.67185.bm@omp106.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 89655 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jun 2008 14:12:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.de; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=yOmgzNEjxX7atB6e6O6WBK8wKQe7m8Ng/1NaQkHQfYrLwnnzKh01iYuafv14emy6iLSCT/LaLmq0S4dZ7KaJES5ZJgDgd/BQ1/xM19jh+pNPpdbVkIpeKJu4hVcjeDuyTIl1W/Vn5dCBMpUeooi+dXUzdhx5LIxS9tLbGdhCgA8=; X-YMail-OSG: 3YfjBZcVM1nnymDi4_UKQ_mhLufOJi1zdfSf6wQKId9CIpSQVxYQX2lMxQxVbqgyRD.KMy4h9EanmGheviSOKhQQDt8dJxuy.Edr2uEfJOr.hiPlLNmVmhKLm80- Received: from [88.134.242.148] by web23308.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:12:16 CEST Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:12:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Stevan Tiefert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <861614.89640.qm@web23308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Subject: Not possible to install KDE 3.5.8 and Apache 2.2 together? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:25:52 -0000 Hello, when I want to install www/apache22 then following error appears: beastie# make install clean ===> Installing for apache-2.2.8 ===> apache-2.2.8 conflicts with installed package(s): apr-db42-1.2.8_2 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22. beastie# pkg_delete apr-db42-1.2.8_2 pkg_delete: package 'apr-db42-1.2.8_2' is required by these other packages and may not be deinstalled: kde-3.5.8 kdesdk-3.5.8 kdevelop-3.5.0 kdewebdev-3.5.8,2 subversion-1.4.4_1 beastie# The question: Is it possible to keep them both running, or have I to delete really KDE? 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Dem pfiffigeren Posteingang. http://de.overview.mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 14:28:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509D71065671 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:28:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B7B8FC15 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl116-224.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.235.224]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-4) with ESMTP id m59ESSkU025012 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:28:35 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m59ESSa0063366; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:28:28 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m59ESRxF063365; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:28:27 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Simon Jolle sjolle References: <484C3CC4.7050107@webrz.net> <20080608201256.GA28987@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <484C3FB7.4080208@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:28:27 +0300 In-Reply-To: <484C3FB7.4080208@gmail.com> (Simon Jolle's message of "Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:23:19 +0200") Message-ID: <87k5gyn0ms.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m59ESSkU025012 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.745, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.65, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Grep Guru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:28:41 -0000 On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:23:19 +0200, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: > On 06/08/2008 10:12 PM, Bill Campbell wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 08, 2008, Jos Chrispijn wrote: >>> I tried to make a grep script on find a string in all files on path >>> ./ and down. It does anything exept searching in files and reporting >>> them. Is there a Grep Guru who can hint me out? Thanks, >> >> I expect you need something like: >> >> find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep pattern > > Or install the GNU grep (from the man) > > -R, -r, --recursive > Read all files under each directory, recursively; this is > equivalent to the -d recurse option. /usr/bin/grep *is* GNU grep in FreeBSD: % keramida@kobe:/home/keramida$ grep --version % grep (GNU grep) 2.5.1-FreeBSD % % Copyright 1988, 1992-1999, 2000, 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc. % This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO % warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. % % keramida@kobe:/home/keramida$ AFAIK, Gabor Kovesdan is working on replacing grep(1) with a BSD-licensed implementation, but he also tries to keep UI compatibility as much as possible. So I guess the -r/-R option should work in that version too once it hits the tree. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 14:33:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F761065670 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:33:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067FA8FC20 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:33:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K5iQh-00051W-VO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:33:09 +0100 Received: from mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.184.33]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1K5iQf-0004Xu-Rv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:33:02 +0100 Received: from mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m59EX1gt037537 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:33:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m59EX1QH037536 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:33:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:33:01 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080609143300.GA37436@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Subject: prevent overwriting custom make options in ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:33:10 -0000 I use ports/lang/gcc42. I set WITHOUT_JAVA=yes in the Makefile. However, with each tree update this option is overwritten, so I have to edit the Makefile each time I update the port. What is the best way to preserve my custom setting, add an environment variable? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 14:40:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410C91065670 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rahulone@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B588FC17 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:40:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rahulone@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id p76so1010216pyb.10 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:40:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=PF8XrdAuImZFb+VHenL3N9DF0o8cpR/6tKCPiN2Unmg=; b=w4gvygEHDR3cC4G1U0jnvzgmZ55R9Q0sAfsb4G6+ei4uutgifnqtdrP24jJ8r7LaNh HwJygubv8pmjx4kGR9jyPWnEysDAKndbPUYDSq+WC/mR3+IRfigSyL1z4k8NXJH+86+U HVDdNw63JQ88AAfL2iVYXXQIDVFWUedB9JakU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=gpmBR8zz8pBcwt7hVyZOPYckliel2f8uKmbfvc54mY0Ft3p7Y/ftDT1ySc3wwxzz9W NJXSHTYJO6aPyUbCJo3frEEN3W/Vg9OtID6PKEmi2ygAttL0ZOfDPu0KRKZRwM86wst2 dVihOzdDZK8fsUJJ8fhSIS+ISYEcI/jysKBi8= Received: by 10.114.209.1 with SMTP id h1mr3351058wag.36.1213020809824; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.32.18 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4804a6670806090713s235a0dddveb93799b2b6f8e4b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:13:29 -0400 From: Rahul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Memory Limits X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:40:16 -0000 Hello, I'm new to FreeBSD and really attracted to it because of the performance and stability it provides. So I am looking to develop a high performance system that may need to process over 100K UDP messages per second and be able to store information quickly. I couldn't find much documentation on the memory limits in FreeBSD, especially per-process limits in both 32-bit and 64-bit versions. Could you please point me to where I can find such information along with other performance tuning tips and characteristics of the OS to keep in mind? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 14:59:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A9D106564A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:59:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from moe.cs.uoguelph.ca (moe.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.94.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E7D8FC17 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:59:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from batman.cs.uoguelph.ca (batman.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.93.48]) by moe.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m59EhJCH032459 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:43:19 -0400 Received: from blizzard.lan (p-dynamic-border5-89.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca [67.43.141.89]) (authenticated bits=0) by batman.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m59Eh0xK022321 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:43:01 -0400 Message-Id: <4AF0C677-6628-49A6-BDD8-F5620CBF05F1@sentex.net> From: Andrew Berry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-537-639678828; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:43:16 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) X-Spam-Scanner: SpamAssassin 3.000004 (http://www.spamassassin.org/) on batman.cs.uoguelph.ca X-Spam-Score: hits=0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Tests: FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Status: Suspected X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 131.104.94.198 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 172.17.94.85 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Openvpn on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:59:49 -0000 --Apple-Mail-537-639678828 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I recently upgraded a machine from FreeBSD 6.3 to 7.0. Everything is working fine except for the OpenVPN server. I had it set up with a bridge configuration, but now even with a basic tunnel I can't get successful ping across the VPN. I can make a connection from both Linux and OS X but neither can actually use the tunnel. Are there any changes in 7 which might affect this? Anyone else using OpenVPN on 7.0? Thanks, --Andrew --Apple-Mail-537-639678828-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 15:21:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55541065673 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.78.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B6C8FC19 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:21:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id B7D3028473; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:21:19 -0400 (EDT) To: unga888@yahoo.com References: <782244.83844.qm@web57003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:21:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: <782244.83844.qm@web57003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> (Unga's message of "Sun\, 8 Jun 2008 00\:51\:57 -0700 \(PDT\)") Message-ID: <44hcc23a8g.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to do regression on libc? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:21:20 -0000 Unga writes: > How to do regression on libc to verify the correctness? There are conformance test suites out there. The decent ones all seem to cost money, but you might want to look at the "Open POSIX" project. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 15:22:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF43F1065679 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:22:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47728FC19 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:22:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m59FHmoh013760; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:17:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m59FHmva013759; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:17:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:17:48 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Tobias Hoellrich Message-ID: <20080609151748.GA13657@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:22:57 -0000 On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 05:09:08PM -0700, Tobias Hoellrich wrote: > [Disclaimer: I work for Adobe Systems. I have nothing to do with the > Flash Player. I'm a grunt who works on other stuff. This is my personal > opinion as a long-time FreeBSD user and I'm not making any statements > for Adobe.] > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jona Joachim > > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 4:58 PM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Flashplugin > > > > Flash is a big pain IMO. > > The Flash question has been asked *a lot* of times on this list. > > The answer usually boils down to "use www/nspluginwrapper" or "use > > linux-firefox". Both "solutions" are far from optimal. > > My solution is to simply ignore Flash content. It makes your > > "online experience" > > much more enjoyable. This is my personal choice of course. > > ... > > That's simply wrong. The Flash format byte-code is *not* proprietary. If > you want to, you can go ahead and create your own Flash Player. The > specifications for the format are freely available at: > http://www.adobe.com/openscreenproject/developers/ This is encouraging. Is that info really enough to create a player such as Flash 9? I hope some folks will take a good shot at it. It is really beyond me. > > And Gnash (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/), which was started before > the spec was available, will certainly benefit from this. > > And to address a previous message: if your bank requires you to use the > Flash Player to make a transaction, then you will need to get in touch > with your bank and not blame it on the non-existence of the Flash Player > on your platform. A disabled person with a text-only browser or a > screen-reader will certainly have the same issues. Companies who insist on their front pages and their functional things such as sales using flash or some other gimmick are inflicted with persons who are more interested in supplanting their egos than making the online product work for the company. But, if the web page has all its business in normal html and only uses flash and other such stuff as extra attraction and advertising then, no problem. A little eye candy on the side is not the issue. It is when the essentials are all blocked and made non-functional by the eye candy that the company and/or web designer is way off base. > > My offer stands: if anybody can provide the numbers above, I'm going to > forward them to the right people and work things from my end. The numbers come out each month (BSD Stats), but unfortunately they really represent only a fraction of the actual number of BSD systems in use. They also do not distinguish between server and desktop use -- which is sometimes impossible anyway since many systems, such as the one I am typing on right now, are used for both. ////jerry > > Don't beat me up, I'm for the support - even if I'm not using FreeBSD as > a desktop OS. > > Thanks and happy weekend - Tobias > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 15:28:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5AC106564A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:28:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9638FC21 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:28:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-0000134c00000330-c9-484d4c661b8b Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:29:41 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:27:08 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20080609111200.75197d59@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Whine when EHCI controller enabled in BIOS Thread-Index: AcjKENPl38bEAmcITyWts3uTBD/UUAAMq4wg References: <7039ada60806082040s36afc2c8n4698402ac5d4ff29@mail.gmail.com> <20080609111200.75197d59@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> From: "Bob McConnell" To: "cpghost" , "James" X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Whine when EHCI controller enabled in BIOS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:28:47 -0000 On Behalf Of cpghost > On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:40:17 -0600 > James wrote: >=20 >> I have a high pitched whine coming from my motherboard when the EHCI >> USB 2.0 controller is enabled in the BIOS. The whine only starts once >> FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE is halfway through booting. >>=20 >> The whine also goes away when I plugin a USB drive in with EHCI >> controller enabled (usb keyboard and mouse being already plugged in). >>=20 >> Is this a hardware problem, or could it possibly be software >> related??? > > Hard to tell. I've had whining EPIA-boards when run at 1000 Hz, > and after switching kern.hz to 100 Hz in /boot/loader.conf, the > high-pitched whine stopped entirely. It also stopped when I > slightly deviated from the 1000 Hz (to, say, 900 Hz or 1100 Hz), > so there was obviously some hardware component on the boards > oscillating like mad at this very frequency. >=20 > I'm no specialist and it may be an urban legend, but from > what I gathered, some coils could exhibit the behavior of > generating those high-pitched whines when exposed to certain > frequencies. >=20 > -cpghost. No legends here. The horizontal sweep frequency for televisions in the US is 17,500 Hz. Many people could hear that whistle from cheap flyback transformers. Other devices would buzz, hum or rattle when they resonated with EM fields. Occasionally they can be heard by humans, more frequently they can be heard by their pets. As I have gotten older, I don't notice it as much. Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 15:34:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F841065671 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff@m2.seamanpaper.com) Received: from buster.seamanpaper.com (buster.seamanpaper.com [67.158.116.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492FF8FC1B for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff@m2.seamanpaper.com) Received: (qmail 13936 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2008 11:34:10 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO junco.intranet.seamanpaper.com) (192.168.10.133) by buster.seamanpaper.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 2008 11:34:10 -0400 Received: (qmail 51810 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jun 2008 15:35:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.10.80?) (192.168.10.80) by 192.168.10.133 with SMTP; 9 Jun 2008 15:35:29 -0000 Message-ID: <484D4D72.7070108@m2.seamanpaper.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:34:10 -0400 From: Jeff Dickens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <48499CCD.2010708@m2.seamanpaper.com> <200806062048.m56Kmhtl071591@mail.icsmx.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090805020304010900090307" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: vmware timekeeping X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jeff@seamanpaper.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:34:11 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090805020304010900090307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sean Cavanaugh wrote: > ---------------------------------------- > >> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:48:46 -0500 >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> From: jbiquez@icsmx.com >> Subject: Re: vmware timekeeping >> >> At 03:23 p.m. 06/06/2008, you wrote: >> >>> I'm running FreeBSD 6.3-release as a guest on VMware ESX 3.0.2. My >>> problem is that the clock keeps *gaining* time. I have the >>> "timesync" option turned on in ESX's .vmx file, and I have >>> "hint.apic.0.disabled=1" in my FreeBSD guest's /boot/loader.conf. >>> >>> I used to have "kern.hz=100" in loader.conf, but that caused the >>> guest to gain time even faster. >>> >>> Does anyone have a good recipe for decent timekeeping in this config? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> Hello all. >> >> Here is something similar. Running 6.2 stable... but the clock lose >> around 6 hours each day >> >> JB >> >> > > > The only good way of keeping time pretty set is to set up an NTP sync on the image to go off at decently constant rate (once every 3 hours or so). the vmware-tools will not synchronize the system clock. > The tools do attempt to improve timekeeping if you put tools.syncTime = "TRUE" in the guest's .vmx file. However, the tools will only move the time forward. It is attempting to compensate for "lost ticks". Without using syncTime the guest's clock can run slow, depending on the host's overall load. With syncTime on, my Linux guest machines stay synchronized perfectly. Well, they're within one second anyway, which is fine for my application. The recipe for this success was to turn on syncTime, and use the following linux boot options: clock=pit nosmp noapic nolapic However, I have not been able to achieve the same success with FreeBSD. The clock doesn't lose time, but it gains time, very slowly. It's probably load dependent, but it's around 10 seconds a day. What's the FreeBSD equivalent of "clock=pit" ? Meaning to use the PIT and not the APIC. In general, but also in this application in particular, one does not one time to move backwards. The Dovcot IMAP server immediately exits if it detects that time went backwards. In order to use NTP, you'd probably have to turn off syncTime, which probably does a better job anyway except for the gaining time problem. I haven't tried actually running ntpd instead of a periodic sync, as this is not recommended by VMware's timekeeping white paper: http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vmware_timekeeping.pdf. My last-ditch strategy will be to start monkeying with the knobs for syncTime, like these: timeTracker.catchupPercentage timeTracker.catchupIfBehindByUsec timeTracker.giveupIfBehindByUsec But I'd rather fix it the same way I have with Linux. > I heard of someone trying to change the clock in BSD to only use the hardware clock as VMWare can reset that but never heard anything beyond that. > > -Sean_______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --------------090805020304010900090307-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 15:36:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C072106566C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:36:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff@m2.seamanpaper.com) Received: from buster.seamanpaper.com (buster.seamanpaper.com [67.158.116.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA5E8FC13 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff@m2.seamanpaper.com) Received: (qmail 14099 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2008 11:36:36 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO junco.intranet.seamanpaper.com) (192.168.10.133) by buster.seamanpaper.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 2008 11:36:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 51833 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jun 2008 15:37:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.10.80?) (192.168.10.80) by 192.168.10.133 with SMTP; 9 Jun 2008 15:37:55 -0000 Message-ID: <484D4E04.1000100@m2.seamanpaper.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:36:36 -0400 From: Jeff Dickens User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <48499CCD.2010708@m2.seamanpaper.com> <20080607060451.GA28805@laverenz.de> In-Reply-To: <20080607060451.GA28805@laverenz.de> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080207010209070300000700" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: vmware timekeeping X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jeff@seamanpaper.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:36:37 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080207010209070300000700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Uwe Laverenz wrote: > On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 04:23:41PM -0400, Jeff Dickens wrote: > > >> option turned on in ESX's .vmx file, and I have "hint.apic.0.disabled=1" >> in my FreeBSD guest's /boot/loader.conf. >> > > This shouldn't be necessary in FreeBSD >= 6.2. > > hmm. >> I used to have "kern.hz=100" in loader.conf, but that caused the guest >> to gain time even faster. >> > > "100" is ok, I'm using this value on all virtual machines. > > >> Does anyone have a good recipe for decent timekeeping in this config? >> > > Is it possible to upgrade your ESX from 3.0.2 to 3.5x? If not, there is > another setting on the ESX side that helps with timing problems (FreeBSD > or Linux guests): change "Advanced Settings/Misc/Misc.Timer/MinHardPeriod" > from 400 to 100 (this is default on ESX 3.5x). > > Unfortunately IBM has not certified my hardware (xSeries 226) with ESX 3.5, and the installation just hangs, so I'm stuck on 3.0.2 for now. Thanks, I will try that suggestion. > Uwe > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --------------080207010209070300000700-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 15:37:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C521065670 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:37:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from huudaud@yahoo.com) Received: from n72.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (n72.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [98.136.44.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1077D8FC1D for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:37:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from huudaud@yahoo.com) Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n72.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2008 15:24:13 -0000 Received: from [69.147.65.165] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2008 15:24:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp500.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jun 2008 15:24:13 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 541057.74179.bm@omp500.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 3664 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jun 2008 15:24:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=itTLKdhVCfFN5VT7jbh3f+o4J50JSoi06FisgRiBsanQ9HtZwAvFoKfJd9d4RbaTazUymAAbId6KDAdhKrofYA5g8ydDI4PAymNKHKyXvvHqO44AKkz5VMBzTJX0r02F+KqzTi+wFaFG0xnSfZJMnulATR+VYci5pBnQRJa2eS4=; Received: from [212.247.71.59] by web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:24:13 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:24:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Huu Daud To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <347326.3314.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Installing freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:37:09 -0000 Hello, Greetings, Iam new to this forum and to the Unix.My interest is to install and configure freeBSD on my desktop computer.I have downloaded the iso for i386. and burn on the CD and DVD.My problem is when I boot from the CD or DVD ,it didnt send me to the screen for selection options as it is shown on the web.Instead, it sends me to the A drive prompt(DOS).Is it possible to install from the DOS?.How then. Thank you for your help huu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 15:42:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B661065673 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:42:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bcook@poughkeepsieschools.org) Received: from mail.poughkeepsieschools.org (mail.poughkeepsieschools.org [64.72.66.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA60F8FC16 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:42:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bcook@poughkeepsieschools.org) Received: from [10.20.0.10] (port=59325 helo=mbookpro.tcentral.lan) by mail.poughkeepsieschools.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (BSD WebSolutions, Inc.) (envelope-from ) id 1K5jD4-000Ind-NA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (authenticated as bcook@poughkeepsieschools.org); Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:23:02 -0400 X-BSD-Virus-Check: ClamAV 0.93/7409 on mail.poughkeepsieschools.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:23:02 -0400 Message-Id: <228F7E24-AFA2-4BD6-91B6-D610380C789A@poughkeepsieschools.org> From: B. Cook To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:23:02 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Subject: gmirror and resizing partitions.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:42:15 -0000 Hello all, I have a FreeBSD 7 machine that I am running gmirror on (ad4 and ad6). there is an /exports and /home that need to be resized. (right now they each are about 55G and /home needed to have been 100G and exports 10G) what do I need to do to fix this. I am assuming break the mirror, fdisk the /exports and /home then remake them, and then rebuild the mirror.. right? What do I need to do with as little impact on the running server as possible.. as many services are already configured on this box and it's running :P (of course.. ) Thanks in advance, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 15:45:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DB1106567F for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:45:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9183A8FC16 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id BAA21181; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:44:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:44:36 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Bill Campbell In-Reply-To: <20080608231711.053E310656E1@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Jos Chrispijn , Wojciech Puchar , Raphael Becker , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Grep Guru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:45:41 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:07:12 -0700 Bill Campbell wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2008, Raphael Becker wrote: > >On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:15:50PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> find . -type f -print0|xargs -0 grep > > > >There's no more need for find | xargs > > > >Try: > > > >find . -type -f -exec grep {} \+ > > > >-exec foo {} \+ behaves like xargs foo > >-exec foo {} \; exec foo for every file Thanks for this kick; I'd missed or misunderstood using {} \+ > The issue here is that grep execs grep for each file found while > xargs batches the files. If find(1) is to be believed, so does -exec utility [argument ...] {} + > This is of particular importance if one wants to see the file > names in the output. In relation to this, if one wants to be > sure that grep always generates the file name, insure that it > always gets at least two files as arguments: > > find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep pattern /dev/null Another good clue. Many ways to do anything; I've often used such as: % find /sys/ -name "*.[chm]" -exec egrep -Hi 'CPUFREQ_[GS]ET' {} \; which has grep print the filenames, rather than using -print with find, but I've just now run the above find, then using \+ instead, twice each, and am pleased to learn that the latter method runs ~4 times faster in real time and is even lighter on the system: % time find /sys/ -name "*.[chm]" -exec grep -Hi 'CPUFREQ_[GS]ET' {} \; /sys/kern/kern_cpu.c:static int cpufreq_settings_sysctl(SYSCTL_HANDLER_ARGS); [.. etc ..] 20.524u 46.205s 4:03.91 27.3% 79+201k 5698+0io 0pf+0w % time find /sys/ -name "*.[chm]" -exec grep -Hi 'CPUFREQ_[GS]ET' {} \+ 1.756u 3.058s 1:07.51 7.1% 81+290k 7148+0io 13pf+0w % time find /sys/ -name "*.[chm]" -exec grep -Hi 'CPUFREQ_[GS]ET' {} \; 21.742u 44.382s 3:57.99 27.7% 79+200k 7144+0io 0pf+0w % time find /sys/ -name "*.[chm]" -exec grep -Hi 'CPUFREQ_[GS]ET' {} \+ 1.651u 3.134s 0:58.39 8.1% 75+267k 7149+0io 10pf+0w (Ignore sloth; poor 300MHz Celeron already busy dumping /usr over nfs :) > FWIW, I have learned about gnu-grep's -r option reading this > thread, which I had not noticed previously. I guess that just > goes to show that old habits die hard :-). When you're on a good thing :) but always plenty new tricks to learn. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 15:46:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33D91065677 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:46:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: from uranos.boku.ac.at (uranos.boku.ac.at [141.244.180.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A354E8FC1B for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:46:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pobox@verysmall.org) Received: by uranos.boku.ac.at (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A3BFC338114; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:46:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on uranos.boku.ac.at X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.4 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uranos.boku.ac.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044DB33811C; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:46:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from uranos.boku.ac.at ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (uranos.boku.ac.at [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29190-03; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:46:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [141.244.63.108] (unknown [141.244.63.108]) by uranos.boku.ac.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13669338114; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:46:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484D4FF9.7080001@verysmall.org> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:44:57 +0200 From: Iv Ray User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Huu Daud References: <347326.3314.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <347326.3314.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: powered by ZID at uranos.boku.ac.at Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:46:46 -0000 Huu Daud wrote: > Hello, > Greetings, > Iam new to this forum and to the Unix.My interest is to install and configure freeBSD on my desktop computer.I have downloaded the iso for i386. > and burn on the CD and DVD.My problem is when I boot from the CD or DVD ,it didnt send me to the screen for selection options as it is shown on the web.Instead, it sends me to the A drive prompt(DOS).Is it possible to install from the DOS?.How then. > Thank you for your help > huu Did you burn the ISO on the CD/DVD as a file, or did you instruct the burning program to use it as a disk image? Iv From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 16:03:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFFB1065671 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4E28FC1C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:03:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m59G2tMi015137; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:02:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C2388BA8E; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:02:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:02:54 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080609160254.GA30437@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20080609143300.GA37436@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080609143300.GA37436@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Anton Shterenlikht Subject: Re: prevent overwriting custom make options in ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:03:04 -0000 --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 03:33:01PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I use ports/lang/gcc42. > I set WITHOUT_JAVA=3Dyes in the Makefile. > However, with each tree update this option is > overwritten, so I have to edit the Makefile > each time I update the port. >=20 > What is the best way to preserve my custom setting, > add an environment variable? Add the following to your /etc/make.conf: =2Eif ${.CURDIR:M*/lang/gcc*} WITHOUT_JAVA=3Dyes =2Eendif What this means is: if the current build directory (.CURDIR) matches=20 (M) the pattern */lang/gcc*, set WITHOUT_JAVA=3Dyes. See the VARIABLE ASSIGNMENTS section in the make(1) manual page for details.=20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhNVC4ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVEpQCdFnpnsUQ4FNFQ4KNSyzJV89Z0 ltsAn3vQU9I0+LrDF74arLkt1QTCVu1A =c552 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 16:05:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E63A1065673 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:05:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A03A8FC1C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m59G5OsS002758; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:05:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D68E6BA8E; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:05:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:05:23 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Huu Daud Message-ID: <20080609160523.GB30437@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <347326.3314.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aM3YZ0Iwxop3KEKx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <347326.3314.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:05:26 -0000 --aM3YZ0Iwxop3KEKx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 08:24:13AM -0700, Huu Daud wrote: > Hello, > Greetings, > Iam new to this forum and to the Unix.My interest is to install and > configure freeBSD on my desktop computer.I have downloaded the iso for > i386. and burn on the CD and DVD.My problem is when I boot from the CD or > DVD ,it didnt send me to the screen for selection options as it is > shown on the web.Instead, it sends me to the A drive prompt(DOS).Is it > possible to install from the DOS?.How then.=20 Also check the boot sequence in the BIOS setup. It should try to boot =66rom CD first. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --aM3YZ0Iwxop3KEKx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhNVMMACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUHigCgiLvsJxrch4tYgmQbuBgIr1aY Tb8AniJmKwa6bxw92tdltHTQzOWafdDv =ZDJy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aM3YZ0Iwxop3KEKx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 16:05:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967681065674 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E5B8FC17 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:05:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m59G5gwA048054 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:05:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m59G5gb0048051 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:05:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:05:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080609180519.M47638@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: does this work with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:05:49 -0000 http://www.sataport.com/ i mean port multipliers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 16:08:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4144D106566C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:08:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lreid@cs.okstate.edu) Received: from a.cs.okstate.edu (a.cs.okstate.edu [139.78.113.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2639C8FC1A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lreid@cs.okstate.edu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a.cs.okstate.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5180154C2E; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:08:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <484D5581.9080608@cs.okstate.edu> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:08:33 -0500 From: Reid Linnemann User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070926) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "B. Cook" References: <228F7E24-AFA2-4BD6-91B6-D610380C789A@poughkeepsieschools.org> In-Reply-To: <228F7E24-AFA2-4BD6-91B6-D610380C789A@poughkeepsieschools.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror and resizing partitions.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:08:36 -0000 Written by B. Cook on 06/09/08 10:23>> > Hello all, > > I have a FreeBSD 7 machine that I am running gmirror on (ad4 and ad6). > > there is an /exports and /home that need to be resized. > > (right now they each are about 55G and /home needed to have been 100G > and exports 10G) > > what do I need to do to fix this. > > I am assuming break the mirror, fdisk the /exports and /home then remake > them, and then rebuild the mirror.. > > right? > > What do I need to do with as little impact on the running server as > possible.. as many services are already configured on this box and it's > running :P > > (of course.. ) > > Thanks in advance, > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" What I would do is break the mirror, then resize the partitions and newfs them on one disk. Then dump|restore the data from the other disk to your new partitions, and recreate the mirror with the newly resized disk and insert the other disk into that mirror. That disk should then rebuild with the new partitioning. Of course, you can only do this while the mirror is unused. So you're going to have to have some degree of downtime on those filesystems. You can minimize the downtime by killing the mirror and remounting the filesystems direct from one disk while you work on repartitioning the other. You may want to mount read-only, however, as the dump|restore may take a significant amount of time and you wouldn't want to lose any data that may be written to the other disk while you're busy copying from it. When you've built the new mirror with the repartitioned disk and dump|restored to it (don't forget the -L option on dump), remount the partitions from the new mirror and then insert the second disk. That's what I'd do, anyhow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 16:12:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63588106567C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626178FC14 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m59GCMBk051852; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:12:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m59GCMFQ051849; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:12:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:12:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "B. Cook" In-Reply-To: <228F7E24-AFA2-4BD6-91B6-D610380C789A@poughkeepsieschools.org> Message-ID: <20080609181202.V51848@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <228F7E24-AFA2-4BD6-91B6-D610380C789A@poughkeepsieschools.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror and resizing partitions.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:12:27 -0000 > > there is an /exports and /home that need to be resized. > > (right now they each are about 55G and /home needed to have been 100G and > exports 10G) more exact info please. gmirror status mount or cat /etc/fstab From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 16:19:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961BB1065676 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6384B8FC25 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m59GEM6x014079; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:14:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m59GEM0N014078; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:14:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:14:22 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Huu Daud Message-ID: <20080609161422.GF13657@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <347326.3314.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <347326.3314.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:19:22 -0000 On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 08:24:13AM -0700, Huu Daud wrote: > Hello, > Greetings, > Iam new to this forum and to the Unix. My interest is to install and > configure freeBSD on my desktop computer.I have downloaded the iso for i386. > and burn on the CD and DVD.My problem is when I boot from the CD or DVD , > it didnt send me to the screen for selection options as it is shown on the > web. Instead, it sends me to the A drive prompt(DOS).Is it possible to > install from the DOS?.How then. I am having a little trouble picturing what you got. It doesn't sound like something I have seen when booting from a CD. First, is there something in your floppy drive? If so, take it out. Second, your BIOS boot sequence should be: Floppy, CD, hard disk If it doesn't happen to have the CD in the BIOS sequence, then put it there. When you start to boot from the CD, then just let it continue. It might put up a boot menu, but you should be able to just wait and take the default. Past that, there should be no other prompt or menu after that besides install selection stuff. ////jerry > Thank you for your help > huu > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 16:24:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3BF106566C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:24:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E1B8FC16 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:24:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from prawn.unsane.co.uk (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m59GNSUB058022 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:23:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <484D5938.7000406@unsane.co.uk> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:24:24 +0100 From: Vince Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080514) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20080609180519.M47638@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080609180519.M47638@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: does this work with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:24:35 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > http://www.sataport.com/ > > i mean port multipliers > http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/freebsd-current/2008/4/11/1402054 So the answer is there is support in -CURRENT but is still in its early stages. Vince > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 16:33:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E21F71065674 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:33:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bcook@poughkeepsieschools.org) Received: from mail.poughkeepsieschools.org (mail.poughkeepsieschools.org [64.72.66.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E908FC2B for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:33:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bcook@poughkeepsieschools.org) Received: from [10.20.0.10] (port=59596 helo=mbookpro.tcentral.lan) by mail.poughkeepsieschools.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (BSD WebSolutions, Inc.) (envelope-from ) id 1K5kJc-000OzL-PB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (authenticated as bcook@poughkeepsieschools.org); Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:33:52 -0400 X-BSD-Virus-Check: ClamAV 0.93/7412 on mail.poughkeepsieschools.org; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:33:52 -0400 Message-Id: From: "B. Cook" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080609181202.V51848@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:33:52 -0400 References: <228F7E24-AFA2-4BD6-91B6-D610380C789A@poughkeepsieschools.org> <20080609181202.V51848@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Subject: Re: gmirror and resizing partitions.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:33:54 -0000 On Jun 9, 2008, at 12:12 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> there is an /exports and /home that need to be resized. >> >> (right now they each are about 55G and /home needed to have been >> 100G and exports 10G) > > more exact info please. > > gmirror status > mount or cat /etc/fstab Name Status Components mirror/gm0 COMPLETE ad4 ad6 # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/mirror/gm0s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/mirror/gm0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/mirror/gm0s1h /exports ufs rw 2 2 /dev/mirror/gm0s1g /home ufs rw 2 2 /dev/mirror/gm0s1d /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/mirror/gm0s1e /usr/local ufs rw 2 2 /dev/mirror/gm0s1f /var ufs rw 2 2 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 #/dev/da0s1 /mnt/root ufs ro 0 0 #/dev/da0s1b none swap sw 0 0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 16:53:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1EC1065670 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gunnut@2ainfo.it) Received: from MTA128A.interbusiness.it (MTA128A.interbusiness.it [85.33.2.128]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 724378FC15 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gunnut@2ainfo.it) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnkBAJf4TEhYNNo5/2dsb2JhbAAIq3o Received: from host57-218-static.52-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it (HELO [192.168.1.2]) ([88.52.218.57]) by ibs01.interbusiness.it with ESMTP; 09 Jun 2008 18:34:13 +0200 Message-ID: <484D5B74.6070300@2ainfo.it> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:33:56 +0200 From: Filippo Moretti User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <347326.3314.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20080609161422.GF13657@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20080609161422.GF13657@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Installing freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:53:17 -0000 Jerry McAllister ha scritto: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 08:24:13AM -0700, Huu Daud wrote: > > >> Hello, >> Greetings, >> Iam new to this forum and to the Unix. My interest is to install and >> configure freeBSD on my desktop computer.I have downloaded the iso for i386. >> and burn on the CD and DVD.My problem is when I boot from the CD or DVD , >> it didnt send me to the screen for selection options as it is shown on the >> web. Instead, it sends me to the A drive prompt(DOS).Is it possible to >> install from the DOS?.How then. >> I got the same problem,very likely you have burned the iso file on a window machine.I gave up. If you have a floppy drive make the boot floppy as explained on the handbook ,and then install via ftp. sincerely Filippo > > I am having a little trouble picturing what you got. It doesn't sound > like something I have seen when booting from a CD. > > First, is there something in your floppy drive? If so, take it out. > > Second, your BIOS boot sequence should be: Floppy, CD, hard disk > If it doesn't happen to have the CD in the BIOS sequence, then > put it there. > > When you start to boot from the CD, then just let it continue. > It might put up a boot menu, but you should be able to just wait > and take the default. > > Past that, there should be no other prompt or menu after that > besides install selection stuff. > > ////jerry > > > >> Thank you for your help >> huu >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 17:00:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5155106567C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:00:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [65.124.230.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6DE8FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:00:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8474927E46D; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:00:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8210E27E46A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:00:56 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:00:56 +0000 (UTC) From: D Hill X-X-Sender: d.hill@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <484D5B74.6070300@2ainfo.it> Message-ID: References: <347326.3314.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20080609161422.GF13657@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <484D5B74.6070300@2ainfo.it> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (BSF 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Installing freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:00:57 -0000 On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 at 18:33 +0200, gunnut@2ainfo.it confabulated: > Jerry McAllister ha scritto: >> On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 08:24:13AM -0700, Huu Daud wrote: >> >> >>> Hello, >>> Greetings, >>> Iam new to this forum and to the Unix. My interest is to install and >>> configure freeBSD on my desktop computer.I have downloaded the iso for >>> i386. >>> and burn on the CD and DVD.My problem is when I boot from the CD or DVD , >>> it didnt send me to the screen for selection options as it is shown on the >>> web. Instead, it sends me to the A drive prompt(DOS).Is it possible to >>> install from the DOS?.How then. >>> > > I got the same problem,very likely you have burned the iso file on a window > machine. Likely you have burned the iso file on a windows machine? I use both Roxio and Nero and have NEVER had any issues. Both will automatically set up correctly to burn the contents of the ISO just by double-clicking on the ISO image. >I gave up. > If you have a floppy drive make the boot floppy as explained on the handbook > ,and then install > via ftp. > sincerely > Filippo >> >> I am having a little trouble picturing what you got. It doesn't sound like >> something I have seen when booting from a CD. >> >> First, is there something in your floppy drive? If so, take it out. >> >> Second, your BIOS boot sequence should be: Floppy, CD, hard disk >> If it doesn't happen to have the CD in the BIOS sequence, then >> put it there. >> >> When you start to boot from the CD, then just let it continue. It might put >> up a boot menu, but you should be able to just wait >> and take the default. >> >> Past that, there should be no other prompt or menu after that >> besides install selection stuff. >> >> ////jerry >> >> >> >>> Thank you for your help >>> huu >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 17:10:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF17106567E for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:10:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scain@exgenesis.com) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EF78FC1B for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scain@exgenesis.com) Received: from [192.168.13.10] (ppp-70-251-6-131.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [70.251.6.131]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKpCa-1K5ksd2m1Z-0004MF; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:10:06 -0400 From: Shelby Cain To: D Hill In-Reply-To: References: <347326.3314.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20080609161422.GF13657@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <484D5B74.6070300@2ainfo.it> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-hgsjctsOTd4L8nBlsEgV" Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:10:01 -0500 Message-Id: <1213031401.8360.1.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+AuwU5GyC3u+gaz0z6PO0YWp7uv2H4PzeG4u1 iDu1768BCnNhIQ7b7O2v6Poqca04tLVkfQubVGk+cj8Md+3Yb6 cCSMhTHy6pYkdWMCU/DyLb+IddgaFHp Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:10:08 -0000 --=-hgsjctsOTd4L8nBlsEgV Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 17:00 +0000, D Hill wrote: > Likely you have burned the iso file on a windows machine? I use both Roxi= o=20 > and Nero and have NEVER had any issues. Both will automatically set up=20 > correctly to burn the contents of the ISO just by double-clicking on the=20 > ISO image. As will free Windows utilities like ImgBurn http://www.imgburn.com/ Regards, Shelby Cain --=-hgsjctsOTd4L8nBlsEgV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBITWPoFioAnfS4MHQRAmsoAJ4zf6Mx5Hlx4p/S0VKiVzEVUM0ZIQCfVN3l SnCJGV2uOM+ODbv+TEdSQck= =SV0M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-hgsjctsOTd4L8nBlsEgV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 17:25:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9AA106564A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:25:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rambiusparkisanius@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A28F8FC1D for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:25:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rambiusparkisanius@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so1126375wra.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:25:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=L1HMqvGjy2iEQrMnMvr5TdXKDIMPxJlyBKfBFSaozpQ=; b=iHotzUGZBvsWM188FZDJ9HcBAAjOSVmHkLc12JN0mjkRkbEzCw1ZQgVb/1+ni+97me SbwAw1bakqyBsPcBnHvbjQKm2k7CHVQc2BqjQtuxDuL5lNaaEJiCBSihKEujoRImI88f WVw0FoOaIjvms9vDUpmX3GjUwkQEUBaKfLDuM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=JfYc0xWUA/ZtdcdUP61qAwUNGwvrrY6oCGFo4E5SROd7d2hVmiXvw1zXmqQytNkYoU VPdQmDNORYjDhhth0opLDUZUP5ZUEsDOFo0Tgsuqj8fpeD6oZ1z6shKHCbNweTsfjJ+a SvBWLW7cx+TVS8U3qHwLVDjRQZH8J1vh+yIR0= Received: by 10.90.92.14 with SMTP id p14mr3879048agb.28.1213032357409; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.99.11 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <89ce7f740806091025ueecbf56lb88aa51763dcdc39@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:25:57 -0400 From: "Ivan \"Rambius\" Ivanov" To: "Andrew Falanga" In-Reply-To: <200806082019.04350.af300wsm@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200806082019.04350.af300wsm@gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Networking issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:25:58 -0000 Hello, On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Andrew Falanga wrote: > Hello, > > I have, for some time, been able to ssh into my father's FreeBSD machine in > the Road Runner network in Central New York. Last night, I tried so that I > could fix a problem for him and ssh timed out. No problem I thought, his > modem has a different IP than the one I have in my /etc/hosts file, but this > turned to not be the case. This may be off-topic, but... I am using cable internet Time Warner/Road Runner/Earthlink in New York. However, I have a wireless router behind the cable modem and the router is registered with dyndns.org. When I registered with them, I chose a dns name from them for the router and every time my IP changes the router sends a request and their database is updated with the new IP - this is roughly how they work. So I can access machines in my home network usind a DNS name instead of an IP address. You and your dad may find this setup useful. Regards Rambius Tangra Mega Rock: http://www.radiotangra.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 17:34:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B4E1065670 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:34:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8511E8FC23 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:34:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m59HTZDD014310; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:29:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m59HTYpc014309; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:29:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:29:34 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Filippo Moretti Message-ID: <20080609172934.GA14292@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <347326.3314.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20080609161422.GF13657@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <484D5B74.6070300@2ainfo.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <484D5B74.6070300@2ainfo.it> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:34:42 -0000 On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 06:33:56PM +0200, Filippo Moretti wrote: > Jerry McAllister ha scritto: > >On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 08:24:13AM -0700, Huu Daud wrote: > > > > > >>Hello, > >>Greetings, > >>Iam new to this forum and to the Unix. My interest is to install and > >>configure freeBSD on my desktop computer.I have downloaded the iso for > >>i386. > >>and burn on the CD and DVD.My problem is when I boot from the CD or DVD , > >>it didnt send me to the screen for selection options as it is shown on > >>the web. Instead, it sends me to the A drive prompt(DOS).Is it possible > >>to install from the DOS?.How then. > >> > I got the same problem,very likely you have burned the iso file on a > window machine.I gave up. > If you have a floppy drive make the boot floppy as explained on the > handbook ,and then install > via ftp. > sincerely > Filippo If the problem is burning on an MS machine, then you have to make sure that the system is not trying to make an ISO out of the file before it burns it. The file is already an ISO and needs to be burned just as it is without any type of conversion. You'll have to check the options for the utility that you are using to burn the CD. ////jerry > > > >I am having a little trouble picturing what you got. It doesn't sound > >like something I have seen when booting from a CD. > > > >First, is there something in your floppy drive? If so, take it out. > > > >Second, your BIOS boot sequence should be: Floppy, CD, hard disk > >If it doesn't happen to have the CD in the BIOS sequence, then > >put it there. > > > >When you start to boot from the CD, then just let it continue. > >It might put up a boot menu, but you should be able to just wait > >and take the default. > > > >Past that, there should be no other prompt or menu after that > >besides install selection stuff. > > > >////jerry > > > > > > > >>Thank you for your help > >>huu > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 17:36:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787E4106567E for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:36:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: from web53408.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web53408.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.37.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 08A278FC15 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:36:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 60528 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jun 2008 17:09:52 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=2aJ857eImxq9RfN/cA6SM7DsxsRBHu3dRGisenCWQs5dtVY9P2ffYlSnplKN7UxD7hMojyABvgzkKkDcn+cc1+i6SWmh32qa9sv0uMIPHQU4Yw4IH7u36hvCV/osam3xW5Ould0hz3cDP0HEu5tjKj8Vx2dr3Eq7NnSYaTjNURU=; X-YMail-OSG: bgZQZOwVM1nYKnOywvYPX7Jg1ZoYW0SluJWsJiwI4bA9I4iiUx33qyLcuOHzJbygdLCFLc1YBvgWhr3QvEakeVusZtZBF5XbQep9Ww-- Received: from [12.182.77.130] by web53408.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:09:52 PDT Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:09:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <239027.58459.qm@web53408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: libcdio upgrade problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:36:33 -0000 Hi, Im trying to upgrade some ports, and have a problem with libcdio. At least i think i do. When i try to upgrade, say, Nautilus (or a buncha other things), it dies in the end with a "libcdio-0.78.2_2 is already installed. You may wish to make deinstall" etc. message. But i did go to /usr/ports/sysytils/libcdio and make deinstall and make reinstall, and this was successful. I sync'd the ports collection again, but no luck. Nothing in UPDATING about this. Thanks! Jen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 18:00:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E4310656C7 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 289578FC1C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 16333 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2008 17:33:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.128.66) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 9 Jun 2008 17:33:55 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A325C1705E; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:33:52 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:33:52 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080609173352.GA50427@ozzmosis.com> References: <347326.3314.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20080609161422.GF13657@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <484D5B74.6070300@2ainfo.it> <1213031401.8360.1.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1213031401.8360.1.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: Installing freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:00:37 -0000 On Mon 2008-06-09 12:10:01 UTC-0500, Shelby Cain (scain@exgenesis.com) wrote: > On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 17:00 +0000, D Hill wrote: > > > Likely you have burned the iso file on a windows machine? I use both > > Roxio and Nero and have NEVER had any issues. Both will automatically > > set up correctly to burn the contents of the ISO just by > > double-clicking on the ISO image. > > As will free Windows utilities like ImgBurn http://www.imgburn.com/ Another free alternative which I've used in the past is BurnAtOnce. http://www.burnatonce.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 18:58:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D73106566C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:58:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hagge1983@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C399F8FC1C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:58:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hagge1983@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2110939wfg.7 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:58:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=A63i278F1SaoxzcCvCrpzAvfxzQ3lUIXjyryqd3ygEE=; b=HvYSCFVirR17wAnngw4fzyG82Z6pouLsF6GzrhGPYorbcvWkuPrYtIvCZ336kmURHn yc0TKhg8ZGLuONVVSZXiFZPZLlInDjmC/uc9La14qFHR0b/rgDOR5LQt7TXbQ8dz+Coy weGmtvcmEsUorB+Yb8MG/OZTkbUTQ3BABKpd4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=EUJ60gH35DVsW22szePley5vlR2PIkpA/DUeEn/kzbn/6amh8ooD0ixLxFe1HIPiHn XN67w4LTquAZFF9F+Yu9taSVDBuaKWF5VWCUPps2/ibSmY8DdYXJ2V4yuqWnJAUcpp3i 6T9hpaFYTTKH1tB4soKeCRKmNuIYJhXCxotTM= Received: by 10.142.229.5 with SMTP id b5mr1594331wfh.280.1213037890387; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.169.6 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 11:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1a5a68400806091158n17397a14k66d85e30ac3e1a46@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:58:10 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_H=E4ggstr=F6m?=" Sender: hagge1983@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080609094333.H27092@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608215648.Q9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608230131.00003da7@westmark> <20080609001010.G59013@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608233315.GA33530@dan.emsphone.com> <20080609094333.H27092@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 694d20e58475f71e Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:58:11 -0000 Thank you all for discussing this with me. I really like to here your opinions. I wont answer to all of your posts, because half of them is off-topic, but still interesting to read. I haven't heard/read about any huge CPU consumptions from ZFS, not yet at least. If you have links to benchmarks and comparisons with other fses (UFS2 in particular) it would be grate! For the memory I've read that ZFS use up to approximately 700MB of ram for caching, which is quite much, but not too much compared to my 4GB that is available. However there doesn't seem to be an upper limit for ZFS, which I think is very bad. 2008/6/8 Wojciech Puchar : >> The choice is probably between "Debian 4.0r3", "FreeBSD 7.0" and >> "OpenSolaris 2008.05". All of them have their pros and cons. >> > > could you tell any pros for opensolaris? OpenSolaris 2008.05 didn't boot on my hardware, so it's out of this project anyway. The live-cd hangs on "device detect". One of the pros for OpenSolaris I've noticed is the support for a virtual host and at the same time able to use ZFS, but that doesn't matter anymore because I can not boot it and ZFS will probably eat my memory if I can set an upper limit. >> I think Debian / Linux, almost falls off because it lacks support for >> native ZFS and I have not found any alternative filesystem that offer >> checksums on the fly. > > agree I have now found a filesystem for linux that do checksum on the fly, btrfs. But it is still very experimental, so I wont try it for this project. http://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/ // Anders From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 19:08:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6821065681 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:08:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252298FC34 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:08:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl116-224.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.235.224]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-4) with ESMTP id m59J7fM1015057 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:07:49 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m59J7eDf066867; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:07:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m59J7XUf066827; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:07:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Ian Smith References: Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:07:31 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Ian Smith's message of "Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:44:36 +1000 (EST)") Message-ID: <87y75efmvg.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m59J7fM1015057 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.746, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.65, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:15:34 +0000 Cc: Jos Chrispijn , Wojciech Puchar , Bill Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Raphael Becker Subject: Re: Grep Guru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:08:19 -0000 On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:44:36 +1000 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: >On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:07:12 -0700 Bill Campbell wrote: >>On Mon, Jun 09, 2008, Raphael Becker wrote: >>>On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:15:50PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>>> find . -type f -print0|xargs -0 grep >>> >>> There's no more need for find | xargs >>> >>> Try: >>> >>> find . -type -f -exec grep {} \+ >>> >>> -exec foo {} \+ behaves like xargs foo >>> -exec foo {} \; exec foo for every file > > Thanks for this kick; I'd missed or misunderstood using {} \+ > >> The issue here is that grep execs grep for each file found while >> xargs batches the files. > > If find(1) is to be believed, so does -exec utility [argument ...] {} + Yes, sure. I think Bill was just being extra-conservative[1] and he explicitly chose to quote `+' with a backslash to avoid spurious interpreration by the shell. I also type `\+' out of habbit most of the time. [1] BSD users tend to be this way, but that's a good thing, right? :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 19:43:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D45F10656AA for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:43:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.10.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBD78FC22 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:43:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from westmark (westmark.nagual.nl [192.168.11.22]) by nagual.nl (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/yanta) with ESMTP id m59JhSMU024046 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:43:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:42:41 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080609214241.00007ea1@westmark> In-Reply-To: <1a5a68400806091158n17397a14k66d85e30ac3e1a46@mail.gmail.com> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608215648.Q9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608230131.00003da7@westmark> <20080609001010.G59013@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608233315.GA33530@dan.emsphone.com> <20080609094333.H27092@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1a5a68400806091158n17397a14k66d85e30ac3e1a46@mail.gmail.com> Organization: de nagual X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-pc-solaris2.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 192.168.11.35 Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:43:13 -0000 On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:58:10 +0200 "Anders H=C3=A4ggstr=C3=B6m" wrote: > For the memory I've read that ZFS use up to approximately 700MB of ram > for caching, which is quite much, but not too much compared to my 4GB > that is available. However there doesn't seem to be an upper limit for > ZFS, which I think is very bad. This limit can be tuned. At least on solaris. Also, ZFS definitely prefers a 64 bit kernel. --=20 Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 19:45:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EBC1065679 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:45:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767F18FC23 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:45:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52EF3FD05E; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:45:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E3FFD05C; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:45:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484D8867.5040802@webrz.net> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:45:43 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Huu Daud References: <347326.3314.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <347326.3314.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:45:45 -0000 Huu Daud wrote: > Iam new to this forum and to the Unix.My interest is to install and configure freeBSD on my desktop computer.I have downloaded the iso for i386. > and burn on the CD and DVD.My problem is when I boot from the CD or DVD ,it didnt send me to the screen for selection options as it is shown on the web.Instead, it sends me to the A drive prompt(DOS).Is it possible to install from the DOS?.How then > Just start up Nero Express; then you will get a window in which you can choose 'Disc Image or Saved Project'. When you click on that option, you can choose the location of the .iso file. Did you ftp the .iso file? Then first try thru _http_ and process the above. That you burn your iso on a Windows machine has nothing to do with the problem. -- Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 19:48:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1742B106566B for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@icionline.ca) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE86D8FC15 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@icionline.ca) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2128417wfg.7 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.221.19 with SMTP id t19mr1618560wfg.235.1213040932588; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.47.20 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7039ada60806091248i270da99et3bed1f7d83d4c387@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:48:52 -0600 From: James To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <7039ada60806082040s36afc2c8n4698402ac5d4ff29@mail.gmail.com> <20080609111200.75197d59@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> Subject: Re: Whine when EHCI controller enabled in BIOS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:48:53 -0000 On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Bob McConnell wrote: > On Behalf Of cpghost >> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:40:17 -0600 >> James wrote: >> >>> I have a high pitched whine coming from my motherboard when the EHCI >>> USB 2.0 controller is enabled in the BIOS. The whine only starts > once >>> FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE is halfway through booting. >>> >>> The whine also goes away when I plugin a USB drive in with EHCI >>> controller enabled (usb keyboard and mouse being already plugged in). >>> >>> Is this a hardware problem, or could it possibly be software >>> related??? >> >> Hard to tell. I've had whining EPIA-boards when run at 1000 Hz, >> and after switching kern.hz to 100 Hz in /boot/loader.conf, the >> high-pitched whine stopped entirely. It also stopped when I >> slightly deviated from the 1000 Hz (to, say, 900 Hz or 1100 Hz), >> so there was obviously some hardware component on the boards >> oscillating like mad at this very frequency. >> >> I'm no specialist and it may be an urban legend, but from >> what I gathered, some coils could exhibit the behavior of >> generating those high-pitched whines when exposed to certain >> frequencies. >> >> -cpghost. > > No legends here. The horizontal sweep frequency for televisions in the > US is 17,500 Hz. Many people could hear that whistle from cheap flyback > transformers. Other devices would buzz, hum or rattle when they > resonated with EM fields. Occasionally they can be heard by humans, more > frequently they can be heard by their pets. As I have gotten older, I > don't notice it as much. > > Bob McConnell > I think I'm going to just have to try another motherboard unfortunately. The one I'm having problems with is an Asus M2A-VM, which I thought would be good quality. I wonder Gigabyte's all-solid capacitors would make a difference? http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/NewTech/2006_motherboard_newtech/article_08_ultra_durable2.htm The thing that really bugs me is that it's only there if I don't have certain USB devices plugged in. If I plug in an Apple keyboard and mouse for example (which has usb ports on the keyboard), the noise goes away. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 19:49:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D54106568B for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nejc@skoberne.net) Received: from delusion.skoberne.net (lk.84.20.249.154.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net [84.20.249.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFAE88FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:49:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nejc@skoberne.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by delusion.skoberne.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38191B9F5; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:49:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from delusion.skoberne.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (delusion.skoberne.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 44999-04; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:49:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.15.2] (simian.skoberne.local [192.168.15.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: nejkopejko@skoberne.net) by delusion.skoberne.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5049CB9EC; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:49:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484D895A.4050300@skoberne.net> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:49:46 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Nejc_=A9koberne?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Berry References: <4AF0C677-6628-49A6-BDD8-F5620CBF05F1@sentex.net> In-Reply-To: <4AF0C677-6628-49A6-BDD8-F5620CBF05F1@sentex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Openvpn on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:49:51 -0000 Hey, > I recently upgraded a machine from FreeBSD 6.3 to 7.0. Everything is > working fine except for the OpenVPN server. I had it set up with a > bridge configuration, but now even with a basic tunnel I can't get > successful ping across the VPN. I can make a connection from both Linux > and OS X but neither can actually use the tunnel. Are there any changes > in 7 which might affect this? Anyone else using OpenVPN on 7.0? I do. I don't use bridging, though. Do you have a good reason to use it? Have you tried to tcpdump the interfaces? How did you configure the bridge? We would certainly need more information to try to help you out. Bye, Nejc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 20:49:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D286C106567D for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933388FC1C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m59KnwfJ041913; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:49:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m59KnvvA041910; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:49:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:49:57 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Bill Moran In-Reply-To: <20080609102244.b36133b0.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Message-ID: References: <648d054e0806090709l68f8948cmd168985f9ac2a379@mail.gmail.com> <20080609102244.b36133b0.wmoran@potentialtech.com> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (BSF 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:49:58 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Simon Jolle , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD way of installing old version from ports tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:49:59 -0000 On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to "Simon Jolle" : >> >> Currently in /usr/ports/sysutils/syslog-ng there is version syslog-ng >> 1.6.12. I need version syslog-ng 1.6.5 (the same as in production >> environment) to test configuration changes. >> >> Is there an archive of the ports tree? Whats the FreeBSD way to >> install this old version integrated in the rest of the system? > > Looks through the CVS logs (you can use the web interface or Dan's > freshports: http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/syslog-ng/) > > Find the date of the version you want, then configure your supfile > to grab the ports tree from that date. Something like: > date=2004.08.28.10.00.00 > should get what you want. When cvsup is done running, you'll be > able to run make install from the syslog-ng directory to install > that version That's pretty much what /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portdowngrade does, with a little bit of user interface on it. > ... assuming that distfile is still readily available. If it's not, > you'll have to do some web searches until you find it manually. Some > projects are really good about keeping old distfiles around, other are > not. And there could be dependency and version issues. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 20:50:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF87F1065676 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hagge1983@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975048FC1E for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hagge1983@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1159460ywe.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:50:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=ktcslcB6Ly40TXAYSozE2w+y3lCjAj9/PLuL4ksgXAw=; b=a7mL6pTvxiHPk9RbbFQtLUruQxWf4hwNug6dSVFXSXLU9fv4jemxj0G6pQeslYvMIh EPVfv0GZ9Ji9Q/Qc8BTbgHZjFgZjO5nq5j14kf/lg8l3YD0mpfiszPKjsTXDylQzdlJb VVHPnXXejeZK0Vpw1w2Hzlpry88xv3OwCUpSk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=mBnZB0bCrG8v/XmGaDuM9/q6eGpLd82XswtgV9D0IRRXkSA9RSiNQtJ6yLdr4O8QF5 ABB/W9c9Yx499Mg2idl/KMoo6sNypInUw2liE57j9NpM9ewvzEJs6yt2jtAA4EHpbJy1 nTDqhQgJCfagDM8H1RR+Ul2a8fKPmnDAQhzDg= Received: by 10.142.229.5 with SMTP id b5mr1638905wfh.310.1213044629032; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.169.6 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1a5a68400806091350r23f9cc98i2b22387e0d757214@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:50:28 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_H=E4ggstr=F6m?=" Sender: hagge1983@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080609214241.00007ea1@westmark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608215648.Q9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608230131.00003da7@westmark> <20080609001010.G59013@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608233315.GA33530@dan.emsphone.com> <20080609094333.H27092@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1a5a68400806091158n17397a14k66d85e30ac3e1a46@mail.gmail.com> <20080609214241.00007ea1@westmark> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5ec8161a01c72256 Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:50:40 -0000 2008/6/9 Dick Hoogendijk : > On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:58:10 +0200 > "Anders H=E4ggstr=F6m" wrote: > >> For the memory I've read that ZFS use up to approximately 700MB of ram >> for caching, which is quite much, but not too much compared to my 4GB >> that is available. However there doesn't seem to be an upper limit for >> ZFS, which I think is very bad. > > This limit can be tuned. At least on solaris. > Also, ZFS definitely prefers a 64 bit kernel. That's good to know, thanks! Do you have any reference/link that describes how to manage that? It's good to know for the future. I always run my server on amd64-software, as far as I can, because I see better performance and I do not have the trouble with 4GB memory limit. Thanks for the info! > > -- > Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D > ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 20:56:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960E61065674 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F26E8FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2152075wfg.7 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:56:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=Hfo2ftt9yzEwS+qdt50fUR7yQDstB771sIjrEpzDo48=; b=SRMk6LwnT6Ap3YC1zep11gXZ2UhiUHvaMIdKJWFErRnR8nvcA3NYw+9WMPUZM+U7K+ KKe3DiEhYoJ0iCJ4/jjm0ooDfUhR3Dbyc3VKDP2FlDd3gjR+mkGABIWDprfUey1S8Khp Ci8GZJPdtXLJ/shFFMXG8V0S7Nhg75e12ANoo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=SxL8niCu0uA4xLQ0+IW240ufQyEqM3iR2TFxJ31mL2hhDyUKCCWZxiZXbKR9JSyPHj tBy/dcQ3T3oVIX2D14PfgTfPd8CtVIKqzTbQHqZ+bOJ/cpjlzpeW3E1Nl2LAVJBJo3DZ 3zjE28pmH7zU16TXwyqfGi6TowICrasQtMF+E= Received: by 10.142.187.8 with SMTP id k8mr1646163wff.290.1213044994151; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.217.10 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:56:34 -0400 From: "Tsu-Fan Cheng" To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: portmaster argument question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:56:34 -0000 Hi, just noticed that I need to update a whole bunch of ports due to gettext issue, I am used to portmaster and henceforth exec portmaster -uBdr gettext\* -x avifile to server this need. however, the update is interrupted and needed to restart, I noticed an option (-R) to allow skipping ports already up to date. so it becomes portmaster -uBdRr gettext\* -x avifile, but i noticed that portmaster still recompile/reinstall gettext and everything that needs it. how can I get this done right?? thank you!! TFC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 21:12:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A601065670 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1738FC18 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m59L7QAK015671; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:07:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m59L7P4M015670; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:07:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:07:25 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Jos Chrispijn Message-ID: <20080609210725.GA15645@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <347326.3314.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <484D8867.5040802@webrz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <484D8867.5040802@webrz.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Huu Daud , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing freeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:12:27 -0000 On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 09:45:43PM +0200, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > Huu Daud wrote: > >Iam new to this forum and to the Unix.My interest is to install and > >configure freeBSD on my desktop computer.I have downloaded the iso for > >i386. > >and burn on the CD and DVD.My problem is when I boot from the CD or DVD > >,it didnt send me to the screen for selection options as it is shown on > >the web.Instead, it sends me to the A drive prompt(DOS).Is it possible to > >install from the DOS?.How then > > > Just start up Nero Express; then you will get a window in which you can > choose 'Disc Image or Saved Project'. > When you click on that option, you can choose the location of the .iso file. > > Did you ftp the .iso file? Then first try thru _http_ and process the above. > > That you burn your iso on a Windows machine has nothing to do with the > problem. Other than that some of the Win burners default to, or seem to encourage selecting, the wrong options. But, you're right, the CD easily be burned on a Win machine with many different pieces of software. ////jerry > > -- Jos > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 21:31:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356C41065670 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:31:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25C08FC12 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:31:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m59LVQlk002905 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:31:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:31:21 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080609213118.GA21965@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: what ype of app? port of "*free*"-service app? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:31:26 -0000 People, This is a bit hard to figure out how to phrase, so please bear with me. I want to put-back a BBS/forum type app somewhere on my site so that members of my writing group can continue to help me with their suggestions and edits of my Jottings project. Some people are taking a break for the summer, &c. I've had PHPBB up a few times, and lost it as many times for different reasons. It takes about an hour to set up one of these ``forum'' applications; I don't know about the others. Does anyone have a best-win/solution as to which port/package to use? Or would it be just as good to go with a canned (javascript or other) app? Again: the nutshell is to allow my fellow writers to comment-on, edit, suggest, critique, flame, whatever, my jotting meditation. [for now, the URL would not be published.] tia, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 21:31:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B745106567F for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:31:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39ECF8FC1B for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:31:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m59LVcuN041100; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:31:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m59LVbKK041094; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:31:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:31:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_H=E4ggstr=F6m?= In-Reply-To: <1a5a68400806091158n17397a14k66d85e30ac3e1a46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080609232736.X39884@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608215648.Q9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608230131.00003da7@westmark> <20080609001010.G59013@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608233315.GA33530@dan.emsphone.com> <20080609094333.H27092@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1a5a68400806091158n17397a14k66d85e30ac3e1a46@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:31:46 -0000 > I haven't heard/read about any huge CPU consumptions from ZFS, not yet as i already said. most people today have problems as they have too fast CPU and too much RAM ;) they don't see high CPU load on quad core machine with 16GB RAM having not big load :) > For the memory I've read that ZFS use up to approximately 700MB of ram UFS use what's unused. works on 16MB and 16GB. > project anyway. The live-cd hangs on "device detect". > One of the pros for OpenSolaris I've noticed is the support for a > virtual host man jail while maybe not with resource control like on solaris, but i use it with success. it's really excellent. but use nullfs with it to be able to share binaries. > I have now found a filesystem for linux that do checksum on the fly, > btrfs. but why you need it?! all PATA/SATA drives do checksumming on every read. in hardware, no CPU load. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 21:33:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12CC1065670 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:33:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09248FC20 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m59LXavJ041282; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:33:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m59LXaEr041278; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:33:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:33:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_H=E4ggstr=F6m?= In-Reply-To: <1a5a68400806091350r23f9cc98i2b22387e0d757214@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080609233159.P39884@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608215648.Q9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608230131.00003da7@westmark> <20080609001010.G59013@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608233315.GA33530@dan.emsphone.com> <20080609094333.H27092@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1a5a68400806091158n17397a14k66d85e30ac3e1a46@mail.gmail.com> <20080609214241.00007ea1@westmark> <1a5a68400806091350r23f9cc98i2b22387e0d757214@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:33:42 -0000 >> This limit can be tuned. At least on solaris. >> Also, ZFS definitely prefers a 64 bit kernel. > > That's good to know, thanks! Do you have any reference/link that > describes how to manage that? It's good to know for the future. when i tested it i was able to run it on 256MB machine stable after reading about tuning. but sorry i don't remember what options it were exactly. > > I always run my server on amd64-software, as far as I can, because I me too, while not having 4GB anywhere. it just runs faster From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 21:37:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26D21065674 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:37:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adam@baylessfamily.org) Received: from bayless.fiber.net (bayless.fiber.net [209.90.120.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E618FC17 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:37:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adam@baylessfamily.org) Received: from [10.1.102.220] (host-220.fbp.ore.fiber.net [216.83.157.220]) (authenticated bits=0) by bayless.fiber.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m59L9iZE033212 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:09:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from adam@baylessfamily.org) Message-ID: <484D9C13.9090607@baylessfamily.org> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:09:39 -0600 From: Adam Bayless User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Free BSD Questions list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Troubleshooting a 3Ware 9550SX under 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:37:59 -0000 I've recently noticed slow performance on a machine that runs amanda and stores backups for our network on a RAID-5. It was running 6.2. I upgraded to 6.3 just today, so it is completely up to date on the 6 branch. Here's hopefully most of the relevant info: 6.3-STABLE FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE #0: Mon Jun 9 12:57:40 MDT 2008 me@machine:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 da0 at twa0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 100.000MB/s transfers da0: 2145735MB (4394465280 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 273542C) hw.twa0.driver_version: 3.60.04.003 Unit UnitType Status %Cmpl Stripe Size(GB) Cache AVerify IgnECC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ u0 RAID-5 OK - 64K 2095.44 OFF OFF OFF Port Status Unit Size Blocks Serial --------------------------------------------------------------- p0 OK u0 698.63 GB 1465149168 3QD0TAVV p1 NOT-PRESENT - - - - p2 NOT-PRESENT - - - - p3 NOT-PRESENT - - - - p4 OK u0 698.63 GB 1465149168 3QD0SYE3 p5 NOT-PRESENT - - - - p6 NOT-PRESENT - - - - p7 NOT-PRESENT - - - - p8 OK u0 698.63 GB 1465149168 3QD0SE36 p9 OK u0 698.63 GB 1465149168 3QD0THRB p10 NOT-PRESENT - - - - p11 NOT-PRESENT - - - - Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a 4058062 96518 3636900 3% / devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev /dev/da0s2d 1914817666 1647878588 113753666 94% /backup /dev/da0s1d 4058062 3344 3730074 0% /tmp /dev/da0s1f 171626538 7978766 149917650 5% /usr /dev/da0s1e 25385516 124322 23230354 1% /var I'm getting performance like this (no other processes were running at this time): dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile 165760+0 records in 165759+0 records out 84868608 bytes transferred in 25.028232 secs (3390915 bytes/sec) I think I ought to be able to get more than 3.2MB/sec out of this card, right? The machine is about a year old and I am pretty sure it wasn't anywhere near this slow at the beginning, though I don't have any numbers from that time to back up that opinion. What else can I try to get more info or resolve the issue? I've looked online for others complaining of slowness and most of the chatter about twa on freebsd seems to be about the driver having been missing from certain install discs back in the day. No one else seems to be having speed issues. Thanks!! -adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 21:54:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9C91065673 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795408FC16 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay13.apple.com (relay13.apple.com [17.128.113.29]) by mail-out3.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DC22E9938E; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay13.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay13.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 416D528083; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:54:47 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 1180711d-ae39cbb000000ed7-18-484da6a6c60f Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.227.140.124]) by relay13.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id B688D28050; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:54:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Chuck Swiger To: Adam Bayless In-Reply-To: <484D9C13.9090607@baylessfamily.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:54:46 -0700 References: <484D9C13.9090607@baylessfamily.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Troubleshooting a 3Ware 9550SX under 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:54:47 -0000 On Jun 9, 2008, at 2:09 PM, Adam Bayless wrote: [ ... ] > Unit UnitType Status %Cmpl Stripe Size(GB) Cache > AVerify IgnECC > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > u0 RAID-5 OK - 64K 2095.44 OFF > OFF OFF Caching is off; that will kill performance especially for small transactions. If you've got battery backup for this system, consider enabling the onboard cache...? -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 22:03:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27FA106564A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:03:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.10.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3852B8FC19 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:03:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from westmark (westmark.nagual.nl [192.168.11.22]) by nagual.nl (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/yanta) with ESMTP id m59M3dns024326 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:03:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:02:50 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080610000250.00005874@westmark> In-Reply-To: <20080609232736.X39884@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608215648.Q9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608230131.00003da7@westmark> <20080609001010.G59013@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608233315.GA33530@dan.emsphone.com> <20080609094333.H27092@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1a5a68400806091158n17397a14k66d85e30ac3e1a46@mail.gmail.com> <20080609232736.X39884@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: de nagual X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-pc-solaris2.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 192.168.11.35 Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:03:13 -0000 On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:31:35 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > UFS use what's unused. works on 16MB and 16GB. It's difficult to tell about consumed memory in ZFS vs UFS since UFS can be quite agressive at caching as well. -(although this caching is often hidden by system tools and reported as "unused" memory)- > > project anyway. The live-cd hangs on "device detect". > > One of the pros for OpenSolaris I've noticed is the support for a > > virtual host > > man jail Jails are just slightly comparable to solaris zones. It's much more then resource control! They're really like independent machines with almost no memory footprint. It's quite common to run different zones for a mailserver, webserver and i.e. users. Sparse zones use little space, because lots of code is shared. It's all very tunable. Running 40 sparse zones is hardly noticable. Try that with 40 jails;-) > > I have now found a filesystem for linux that do checksum on the fly, > > btrfs. > > but why you need it?! all PATA/SATA drives do checksumming on every > read. in hardware, no CPU load. Because the ZFS checksumming makes the FS selfhealing. Chance for errors are almost nill. No fsck. Yes, it consumes memory, but memory is cheap, very cheap! CPU load is hardly noticable. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 22:09:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317E8106568A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:09:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adam@baylessfamily.org) Received: from bayless.fiber.net (bayless.fiber.net [209.90.120.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BC28FC0C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adam@baylessfamily.org) Received: from [10.1.102.220] (host-220.fbp.ore.fiber.net [216.83.157.220]) (authenticated bits=0) by bayless.fiber.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m59M9QrZ034348; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:09:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from adam@baylessfamily.org) Message-ID: <484DAA11.1070909@baylessfamily.org> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:09:21 -0600 From: Adam Bayless User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <484D9C13.9090607@baylessfamily.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Troubleshooting a 3Ware 9550SX under 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:09:27 -0000 > > Caching is off; that will kill performance especially for small > transactions. If you've got battery backup for this system, consider > enabling the onboard cache...? > Chuck, that made an immediate and huge difference: # tw_cli set cache c0 u0 on # dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile 5649235+0 records in 5649234+0 records out 2892407808 bytes transferred in 40.800142 secs (70892102 bytes/sec) I had no idea having the cache on would be such a night and day difference. I'm off to order the battery backup card. Thanks!!! -adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 22:11:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1EB106567C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22768FC1C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay12.apple.com (relay12.apple.com [17.128.113.53]) by mail-out3.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00BE2E99C09; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay12.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay12.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 8B0FA464002; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:11:17 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807135-a91babb000000d04-15-484daa859e81 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.227.140.124]) by relay12.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 6D21D420005; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <740A26DF-8B8A-4FC7-A019-21EC12C38DDE@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Adam Bayless In-Reply-To: <484DAA11.1070909@baylessfamily.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:11:17 -0700 References: <484D9C13.9090607@baylessfamily.org> <484DAA11.1070909@baylessfamily.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Troubleshooting a 3Ware 9550SX under 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:11:18 -0000 On Jun 9, 2008, at 3:09 PM, Adam Bayless wrote: >> Caching is off; that will kill performance especially for small >> transactions. If you've got battery backup for this system, >> consider enabling the onboard cache...? > > Chuck, that made an immediate and huge difference: > > # tw_cli set cache c0 u0 on > # dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile > 5649235+0 records in > 5649234+0 records out > 2892407808 bytes transferred in 40.800142 secs (70892102 bytes/sec) > > I had no idea having the cache on would be such a night and day > difference. > > I'm off to order the battery backup card. > > Thanks!!! Excellent! I'm glad that resolved your performance issue, and you're most welcome.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 22:14:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6042510656AF for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:14:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE928FC28 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:14:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m59MDqC2050941; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:13:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m59MDqxc050938; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:13:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:13:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Adam Bayless In-Reply-To: <484D9C13.9090607@baylessfamily.org> Message-ID: <20080610001335.E50875@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484D9C13.9090607@baylessfamily.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Troubleshooting a 3Ware 9550SX under 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:14:06 -0000 > dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile > 165760+0 records in > 165759+0 records out > 84868608 bytes transferred in 25.028232 secs (3390915 bytes/sec) > I think I ought to be able to get more than 3.2MB/sec out of this card, with default 512 bytes blocks - not much more From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 22:15:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7141D1065677 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:15:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitche@kitchetech.com) Received: from rt06.vds2000.com (s6.n225.vds2000.com [64.6.225.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448288FC1B for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitche@kitchetech.com) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56148 helo=kitchetech.com) by rt06.vds2000.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K5pUh-00082Y-4C; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:05:39 -0400 Received: from 72.65.6.48 ([72.65.6.48]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user kitche@kitchetech.com) by kitchetech.com with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:05:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1175.72.65.6.48.1213049139.squirrel@kitchetech.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:05:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kitche" To: "Tsu-Fan Cheng" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - rt06.vds2000.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kitchetech.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: portmaster argument question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:15:01 -0000 > Hi, > just noticed that I need to update a whole bunch of ports due to > gettext issue, I am used to portmaster and henceforth exec portmaster > -uBdr gettext\* -x avifile to server this need. however, the update is > interrupted and needed to restart, I noticed an option (-R) to allow > skipping ports already up to date. so it becomes portmaster -uBdRr > gettext\* -x avifile, but i noticed that portmaster still > recompile/reinstall gettext and everything that needs it. how can I > get this done right?? thank you!! > > TFC > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Yes I would like to know this as well to make sure I m doing it correctly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 22:17:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC391065686 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004038FC0A for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m59MHS7K051379; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:17:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m59MHR0D051376; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:17:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:17:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Dick Hoogendijk In-Reply-To: <20080610000250.00005874@westmark> Message-ID: <20080610001509.M50875@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608215648.Q9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608230131.00003da7@westmark> <20080609001010.G59013@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608233315.GA33530@dan.emsphone.com> <20080609094333.H27092@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1a5a68400806091158n17397a14k66d85e30ac3e1a46@mail.gmail.com> <20080609232736.X39884@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080610000250.00005874@westmark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:17:32 -0000 > Running 40 sparse zones is hardly noticable. > Try that with 40 jails;-) you probably don't have your jails configured right. my 1GB pentium 4 machine runs 20 jails, and it is hardly noticable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 9 23:10:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF58106566C for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:10:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C7D8FC16 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:10:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CDF51C002; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:10:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [10.4.16.222]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088AAF3862; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:10:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.kotnet.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m59NACXU009774; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:10:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Tijl Coosemans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Anton Shterenlikht Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:10:10 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080609143300.GA37436@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20080609143300.GA37436@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806100110.12056.tijl@ulyssis.org> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-Spam-Status: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-50, required 5, autolearn=disabled, KUL_SMTPS -50.00) X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: tijl@ulyssis.org Cc: Subject: Re: prevent overwriting custom make options in ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:10:20 -0000 On Monday 09 June 2008 16:33:01 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I use ports/lang/gcc42. > I set WITHOUT_JAVA=yes in the Makefile. > However, with each tree update this option is > overwritten, so I have to edit the Makefile > each time I update the port. > > What is the best way to preserve my custom setting, > add an environment variable? I use port-mgmt/portconf for that. It allows to set port options in /usr/local/etc/ports.conf like: lang/gcc42: WITHOUT_JAVA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 01:59:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36B2106566C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:59:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854618FC13 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:59:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5A1xckc051533; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:59:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:59:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Bob McConnell In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080609212335.M52086@tripel.monochrome.org> References: <7039ada60806082040s36afc2c8n4698402ac5d4ff29@mail.gmail.com> <20080609111200.75197d59@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: James , cpghost , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Whine when EHCI controller enabled in BIOS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:59:49 -0000 On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, Bob McConnell wrote: > On Behalf Of cpghost >> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:40:17 -0600 >> James wrote: >> >>> I have a high pitched whine coming from my motherboard when the EHCI >>> USB 2.0 controller is enabled in the BIOS. The whine only starts > once >>> FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE is halfway through booting. >>> >>> The whine also goes away when I plugin a USB drive in with EHCI >>> controller enabled (usb keyboard and mouse being already plugged in). >>> >>> Is this a hardware problem, or could it possibly be software >>> related??? >> >> Hard to tell. I've had whining EPIA-boards when run at 1000 Hz, >> and after switching kern.hz to 100 Hz in /boot/loader.conf, the >> high-pitched whine stopped entirely. It also stopped when I >> slightly deviated from the 1000 Hz (to, say, 900 Hz or 1100 Hz), >> so there was obviously some hardware component on the boards >> oscillating like mad at this very frequency. >> >> I'm no specialist and it may be an urban legend, but from >> what I gathered, some coils could exhibit the behavior of >> generating those high-pitched whines when exposed to certain >> frequencies. >> >> -cpghost. > > No legends here. The horizontal sweep frequency for televisions in the > US is 17,500 Hz. It was 15,750 for original NTSC (black and white RS170), and changed to 15,734 when color (RS170A) came in in the 1950s. The vertical scan (field) rate also changed from 60 Hz to 59.94. These numbers were chosen because they are relatively easily derived from the newfangled color subcarrier of 3.579545 MHz, yet close enough to the old values that old pre-color TV sets could still lock to the new color signals. > Many people could hear that whistle from cheap flyback transformers. > Other devices would buzz, hum or rattle when they resonated with EM > fields. Occasionally they can be heard by humans, more frequently they > can be heard by their pets. As I have gotten older, I don't notice it > as much. The joke used to go, "Why did they pick that frequency?" "Well, the crusty old engineers just cranked it up until they couldn't hear the flyback anymore". I can still hear it, but then I'm still [just] on the candy-coated side of 50. I guess this is getting a little OT here... but by way of a half-assed response to the OP's question, I think Bob is on the right track - seems like an electromechanical resonance of some sort. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 02:12:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BA4106567E for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:12:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakeevans@ircds.com) Received: from awww.jeah.net (awww.jeah.net [208.98.20.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47D78FC1E for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:12:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakeevans@ircds.com) Received: from awww.jeah.net (localhost.jeah.net [127.0.0.1]) by awww.jeah.net (8.13.8/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m5A1vCli023884 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:57:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jakeevans@ircds.com) Received: from localhost (jakeevans@localhost) by awww.jeah.net (8.13.8/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5A1vClN023881 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:57:12 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: awww.jeah.net: jakeevans owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:57:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Jake Evans X-X-Sender: jakeevans@awww.jeah.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080609205426.N23640@awww.jeah.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on awww.jeah.net Subject: no reverse DNS causing connectivity problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:12:46 -0000 [Please cc in replies, not currently subscribed. Thank you.] I have a quick question that I can't seem to find an answer to via Google so far. I've had a few people complain that when they telnet/ssh/ftp/web to our server, it's slow... I've traced the problem to them having no reverse on their IPs. So basically their connection kinda hangs while the system waits to timeout on looking up their IP's reverse. >From what I can tell, I should be able to just set "options timeout:n" and "options attempts:n" in resolv.conf.. BUT it seems FBSD's install doesn't allow you to do this. Does anyone know a workaround to this? I thought maybe of changing it directly in resolv.h but then I'd have to rebuild world I think..? Is there perhaps a sysctl solution? Thank you so much for your time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 02:24:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E148106566B for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:24:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464DA8FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:24:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5A2NmW4069715; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:23:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080609212259.025c03e0@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:23:36 -0500 To: Jake Evans , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <20080609205426.N23640@awww.jeah.net> References: <20080609205426.N23640@awww.jeah.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/6806/Wed Apr 16 15:50:16 2008 on betty.computinginnovations.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: m5A2NmW4069715 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: no reverse DNS causing connectivity problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:24:01 -0000 At 08:57 PM 6/9/2008, Jake Evans wrote: >[Please cc in replies, not currently subscribed. Thank you.] > >I have a quick question that I can't seem to find an answer to via Google >so far. > >I've had a few people complain that when they telnet/ssh/ftp/web to our >server, it's slow... I've traced the problem to them having no reverse on >their IPs. > >So basically their connection kinda hangs while the system waits to >timeout on looking up their IP's reverse. > > From what I can tell, I should be able to just set "options timeout:n" > and "options attempts:n" in resolv.conf.. BUT it seems FBSD's install > doesn't allow you to do this. > >Does anyone know a workaround to this? I thought maybe of changing it >directly in resolv.h but then I'd have to rebuild world I think..? Is >there perhaps a sysctl solution? > >Thank you so much for your time. set UseDNS to no in /etc/sshd_config -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 03:32:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7931065673 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:32:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8CF8FC1B for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:32:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmcBAL5xTUiWZWdv/2dsb2JhbAAIsCw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,615,1204464600"; d="scan'208";a="132955063" Received: from ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.1.128]) ([150.101.103.111]) by ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2008 12:47:16 +0930 From: Wayne Sierke To: Bob McConnell In-Reply-To: References: <7039ada60806082040s36afc2c8n4698402ac5d4ff29@mail.gmail.com> <20080609111200.75197d59@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:47:13 +0930 Message-Id: <1213067833.95829.14.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: James , cpghost , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Whine when EHCI controller enabled in BIOS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:32:32 -0000 On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:27 -0400, Bob McConnell wrote: > On Behalf Of cpghost > > On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:40:17 -0600 > > James wrote: > > I'm no specialist and it may be an urban legend, but from > > what I gathered, some coils could exhibit the behavior of > > generating those high-pitched whines when exposed to certain > > frequencies. > > > > -cpghost. > > No legends here. The horizontal sweep frequency for televisions in the > US is 17,500 Hz. Many people could hear that whistle from cheap flyback > transformers. Other devices would buzz, hum or rattle when they > resonated with EM fields. Occasionally they can be heard by humans, more > frequently they can be heard by their pets. As I have gotten older, I > don't notice it as much. > Indeed. About 20 years ago our company produced a data logger for a local gas utility. At one point our bright, young design engineer replaced a linear voltage regulator with a switch-mode design - quite novel at the time. Only thing was, the hand-wound inductor coils inevitably emitted a hissing noise, not entirely unlike the sound of escaping gas! Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 03:45:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C794F106564A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from moe.cs.uoguelph.ca (moe.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.94.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1448FC17 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from robin.cs.uoguelph.ca (robin.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.93.49]) by moe.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5A3jEsr015526 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:45:15 -0400 Received: from blizzard.lan (p201xjl1ll.dsl2.sentex.ca [64.7.159.203]) (authenticated bits=0) by robin.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m5A3imch018386 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:45:13 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200806100345.m5A3imch018386@robin.cs.uoguelph.ca> Resent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Andrew Berry To: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Nejc_=8Akoberne?= In-Reply-To: <484D895A.4050300@skoberne.net> Resent-From: Andrew Berry References: <4AF0C677-6628-49A6-BDD8-F5620CBF05F1@sentex.net> <484D895A.4050300@skoberne.net> Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-786-686596122; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:45:13 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:44:48 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) X-Spam-Scanner: SpamAssassin 3.000004 (http://www.spamassassin.org/) on robin.cs.uoguelph.ca X-Spam-Score: hits=1.8 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Tests: FORGED_RCVD_HELO, J_CHICKENPOX_23, J_CHICKENPOX_63, J_CHICKENPOX_82, SPF_PASS X-Spam-Status: Suspected X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 131.104.94.198 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 172.17.94.86 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Openvpn on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:45:16 -0000 --Apple-Mail-786-686596122 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 9-Jun-08, at 3:49 PM, Nejc =8Akoberne wrote: > I do. I don't use bridging, though. Do you have a good reason to use =20= > it? I was using it because I could then assign my laptop the same IP =20 easily through my router (a separate device with DHCP) and also have =20 hostnames pushed through DHCP. But I imagine in my case I could do the =20= same thing with a tunnel. > Have you tried to tcpdump the interfaces? Yes, I did: 'tcpdump -i tun0'. Nothing shows up on the server, but on =20= the client (OS X) I can see the pings being sent. > How did you configure the bridge? Here is my current config: It's no longer doing bridging though. openvpn.conf: port 1194 proto tcp dev tun ca ca.crt cert server.crt dh dh1024.pem server 10.8.0.0 255.255.255.0 ifconfig-pool-persist ipp.txt keepalive 10 120 comp-lzo persist-key persist-tun status openvpn-status.log verb 3 And on my client: tls-client dev tun ca ca.crt cert client1.crt key client1.key remote my-remote-host proto tcp-client port 1194 comp-lzo ping 15 ping-restart 45 ping-timer-rem persist-tun persist-key verb 3 I then ifconfig'ed the tun0 interface to be 10.8.0.2 =3D> 10.8.0.1. Thanks! --Andrew --Apple-Mail-786-686596122-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 03:50:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8228106567C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from aeryn.cs.uoguelph.ca (aeryn.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.20.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D868FC19 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from batman.cs.uoguelph.ca (batman.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.93.48]) by aeryn.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5A3onRU004619; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:50:50 -0400 Received: from blizzard.lan (p201xjl1ll.dsl2.sentex.ca [64.7.159.203]) (authenticated bits=0) by batman.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m5A3oSL3023397 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:50:28 -0400 Message-Id: <34B68233-263C-4C09-A904-13728B605B2B@sentex.net> From: Andrew Berry To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20080609213118.GA21965@thought.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-787-686927588; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:50:45 -0400 References: <20080609213118.GA21965@thought.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) X-Spam-Scanner: SpamAssassin 3.000004 (http://www.spamassassin.org/) on batman.cs.uoguelph.ca X-Spam-Score: hits=0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Tests: FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Status: Suspected X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 131.104.20.161 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 172.17.94.85 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: what ype of app? port of "*free*"-service app? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:50:52 -0000 --Apple-Mail-787-686927588 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 9-Jun-08, at 5:31 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > This is a bit hard to figure out how to phrase, so please bear > with me. I want to put-back a BBS/forum type app somewhere on my > site so that members of my writing group can continue to help me > with their suggestions and edits of my Jottings project. Some > people are taking a break for the summer, &c. It sounds like you might want a Wiki of some kind. Mediawiki and MoinMoin are both good, and if you're dealing with source code take a look at Trac. phpBB is pretty decent, but I haven't used it in a while. Most CMS's also include forums of some kind. I'm partial to Drupal, but there's a good selection of choices at http://www.opensourcecms.com/ , and many of the popular ones will be in the ports tree. --Andrew --Apple-Mail-787-686927588-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 04:02:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630EC106567F for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:02:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57010.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57010.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E5CC78FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 62176 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2008 04:02:52 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=iNTJy9A7zlO70xkPMvv91DwgNj+mTr9nJpH/H/Gpo0lKpM4ELGm6w95kGnP9ygO37bKXgydXGMMp/c+z5S+Y+j/T5Na/rRMFIEsR+9FA5G3ChHLDq0ApxJxbUJn4ywl5YWy8DREfvws+28gL8Md6pZo4L+pE0TkePvtZN5K8Yyk=; Received: from [165.21.155.115] by web57010.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:02:52 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:02:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <912936.61808.qm@web57010.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Source directory of libm.so? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: unga888@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:02:54 -0000 Hi all Where is the source directory of /lib/libm.so.x in /usr/src/? grep -lr LIB=m /usr/src/ does not show any result. Kind regards Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 04:05:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC911065670 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B730A8FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:05:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so596684ana.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:04:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=3sstaBJn0PqMNS2JpDOlZlsmaJX63s6oG5HlR3wlkfk=; b=enyWRaWfqFgby/5fqk2YKTEJdpfSlFfm/V/ThUWAbJKr7SDrcsiFO/5yii1a0d77Ep oaADusU5L5UHkwb63W45UiGde5gtiA8u1NHJDYHsoV28L3HLpo3Gx5NLG68DKaq28xPc Dx8mFPnB3Vblx8vgxB1nYnbI1770UzcEvSA+M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=HrhllwHXalP/yrsjh7xmQjQmnaX64g8SBQxVYmXBfCRzo4USv76Ix8zb9V9JdxL1By ngAkFk2+Mp+wQeqZNVp7YKtof6h51BjyhNNV2qhQT4lKknPw3eOWChyJeG+4dZqwigqo fQ6nWZiO/c9kS40E0XdZV79kAD13UzVB0Bn00= Received: by 10.100.33.13 with SMTP id g13mr4722786ang.96.1213070699742; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.13.7 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3b47caa90806092104p1842d20fpffdd8dc59787a19e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:04:59 -0500 From: Novembre To: "Odhiambo Washington" In-Reply-To: <991123400806090142g663a99b0rf04243d934d36e3c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3b47caa90806082022g65e88d97q3fa3d99d3b790ddc@mail.gmail.com> <991123400806090142g663a99b0rf04243d934d36e3c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:05:01 -0000 On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:42 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Novembre wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not > > subscribed to the list and does not receive them in his mailbox? From > time > > to time, I see posts which I can actually answer and contribute to, but > > since I'm not subscribed to the lists, even if I post an answer to the > > person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with > > other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this? > > > > How do you receive them if you are not subscribed to the list? Some magic? > What stops you from subscribing?:-) > > > -- > George Burns - "You can't help getting older, but you don't have to get > old." > Nothing stops me from subscribing to any list, just that I don't like to get too many emails in my mailbox. In fact, I am subscribed to two of the lists (x11 and current), but I chose not to get the emails. And I use my web browser to read the messages, e.g. http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-questions.html . From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 04:08:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E911065671 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93D18FC1D for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:08:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40631111BD0; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:08:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:08:45 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: Z5upst6rTKzakbz9qZs1r9+P1pyXIvrqr4BcCi5uM9fI 1213070924 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C0FD5D09E; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:08:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9145C6E6-4C2F-4DA3-B953-4A91DC4C476B@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Jake Evans In-Reply-To: <20080609205426.N23640@awww.jeah.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:08:43 -0500 References: <20080609205426.N23640@awww.jeah.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no reverse DNS causing connectivity problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:08:46 -0000 [mailed and posted] On Jun 9, 2008, at 8:57 PM, Jake Evans wrote: > I've had a few people complain that when they telnet/ssh/ftp/web to > our server, it's slow... I've traced the problem to them having no > reverse on their IPs. You should configure your servers to not do the reverse lookup. Not resolving is certainly the default for Apache. For sshd, set UseDNS to "no" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. As for telnet and ftp, I don't know where that might be configured. Of course I don't know your needs and situation, but some people might consider it a reasonable policy to disallow ssh and telnet (and certainly mail) from hosts that don't have proper PTR records. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 04:10:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37B8106567A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481A18FC12 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so597047ana.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:10:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=325IC2RiY8Rj8nxWMdEr1/sFwu+/wV2JfUb/aT+RiKU=; b=QjWC6/z+IYbzlL+WIHUBFuAjQmGOY6ze7ST72bWuFMw8GPM+k22YKOX2MpMrTjYEnY qs/aeg53JYfnlQqqUEk440A92YN9tIAwl9Gqw3ztv+WXbLbLfHmaogDogTmrydFhUCw4 VzCKWiPR8R2E2a/aeFD/57zEhaXqL/LMaZVNs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=UXIcF92mCXE8MicAILtF7hHB+Ltj8YQJY6CvIwZ/t3l5NvhqpjCYPpgLC5QFFP0UlP glvT0DkhR8u+0QmAryNbLbh1svH5F0DoPI+rT9Ci4sh3jy9L8Fhy7+dwicQ5xAbFKl2N iKHdiTKkEOpNta8CTXnnfD+d28b+Rr2ir1N6A= Received: by 10.100.31.3 with SMTP id e3mr4759342ane.21.1213071025507; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.13.7 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3b47caa90806092110o4f409778u29aa15be92c0959e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:10:25 -0500 From: Novembre To: "Randy Pratt" In-Reply-To: <20080609064047.b74f4b95.bsd-unix@embarqmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3b47caa90806082022g65e88d97q3fa3d99d3b790ddc@mail.gmail.com> <20080609064047.b74f4b95.bsd-unix@embarqmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:10:26 -0000 On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Randy Pratt wrote: > On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:22:24 -0500 > Novembre wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not > > subscribed to the list and does not receive them in his mailbox? From > time > > to time, I see posts which I can actually answer and contribute to, but > > since I'm not subscribed to the lists, even if I post an answer to the > > person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with > > other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this? > > If you are reading the mailing lists via the FreeBSD website > (http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-questions.html) > you can use the "Raw E-Mail" link of a posting to fetch a > copy and incorporate it into your mail client. > > Two common mail formats are pine mail (one file per folder), > and MH mail (one file per message). I use Sylpheed which uses > MH mail format so its quite easy. I created a folder called > "Mail/web-list" and fetch the mail directly to it. The trick > is to use the next numerical message number, in this example > "114": > > cd ~/Mail/web-list > fetch -R -o 114 ' > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=422834+0+current/freebsd-questions+raw > ' > > It is then possible to just use Sylpheed normally and click > on "Reply to All". The mail will be properly threaded for > the mailing lists. > > I've not used the "one file per folder" type of mail client > in a very long time but I would think that just appending > the new mail to the end would suffice. > > You will need to investigate how your particular mail client > operates and what format it uses, but what you want to do > is possible. I would recommend backing up your mail before > experimenting and using the test mailing list > (freebsd-test@freebsd.org). > > HTH, > > Randy > -- > The problem is that I don't use any mail client, but the old fashion way of using a web browser to log into my account and read my emails. That's why I asked this question in the first place. Call me paranoid, but I just feel more comfortable that way! So to be more specific, how can I answer to a post from a mailing list from within my, e.g., GMail or Yahoo! mailboxes? Is there any way to use the Raw E-Mail output to send an email from within GMail to the OP and the list so that it's threaded properly as well? I will remember your instructions whenever I started using a mail client. Maybe I should do it anyway --- how is Claw Mail? Thanks a lot :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 04:20:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3732B1065671 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:20:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866C08FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:20:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl116-224.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.235.224]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-4) with ESMTP id m5A4JNsC018841 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:19:29 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5A4JMlr003781 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:19:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m5A4JMX9003780; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:19:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <912936.61808.qm@web57010.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:19:21 +0300 In-Reply-To: <912936.61808.qm@web57010.mail.re3.yahoo.com> (Unga's message of "Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:02:52 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87abht6hx2.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m5A4JNsC018841 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.748, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.65, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Source directory of libm.so? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:20:40 -0000 On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:02:52 -0700 (PDT), Unga wrote: > Hi all > Where is the source directory of /lib/libm.so.x in /usr/src/? > > grep -lr LIB=m /usr/src/ does not show any result. Try using a few spaces or TABs around '=' :) The directory you want is `/usr/src/lib/msun'. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 04:47:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495061065677 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:47:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: from mail5out.barnet.com.au (mail5.barnet.com.au [202.83.178.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014738FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:47:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: by mail5out.barnet.com.au (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6D2EB2218B94; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:30:32 +1000 (EST) X-Viruscan-Id: <484E03680000B6736BDC71@BarNet> Received: from mail5auth.barnet.com.au (mail5.barnet.com.au [202.83.178.78]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail5auth.barnet.com.au", Issuer "*.barnet.com.au" (verified OK)) by mail5.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C168321B3916; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:30:31 +1000 (EST) Received: from k7.mavetju (k7.mavetju.org [10.251.1.18]) by mail5auth.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455FE2218ADF; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:30:31 +1000 (EST) Received: by k7.mavetju (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ACC3081D; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:30:30 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:30:30 +1000 From: Edwin Groothuis To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080610043030.GA23335@k7.mavetju> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080604110955.H12910@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Wojciech Puchar Subject: Re: IPv6 jails for FreeBSD (6.* preferably) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:47:19 -0000 > well it applied almost clean to FreeBSD 6.3! > > almost means i have to skip 2 patches to sctp_* files, as sctp doesn't > exist in FreeBSD 6.*, everything else patched > > we will see after compiling. Did it work? Did it work? Did it work? (Or is the absence of a giant WOOOHOOO! the indicator that it didn't work at all?) Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.mavetju.org edwin@mavetju.org | Weblog: http://www.mavetju.org/weblog/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 05:04:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4581065674 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:04:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC218FC18 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5A54jvN013228; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:04:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:04:39 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Andrew Berry Message-ID: <20080610050439.GB32707@thought.org> References: <20080609213118.GA21965@thought.org> <34B68233-263C-4C09-A904-13728B605B2B@sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <34B68233-263C-4C09-A904-13728B605B2B@sentex.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: what ype of app? port of "*free*"-service app? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:04:45 -0000 On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 11:50:45PM -0400, Andrew Berry wrote: > On 9-Jun-08, at 5:31 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > This is a bit hard to figure out how to phrase, so please bear > > with me. I want to put-back a BBS/forum type app somewhere on my > > site so that members of my writing group can continue to help me > > with their suggestions and edits of my Jottings project. Some > > people are taking a break for the summer, &c. > > It sounds like you might want a Wiki of some kind. Mediawiki and > MoinMoin are both good, and if you're dealing with source code take a > look at Trac. > > phpBB is pretty decent, but I haven't used it in a while. Most CMS's > also include forums of some kind. I'm partial to Drupal, but there's a > good selection of choices at http://www.opensourcecms.com/ , and many > of the popular ones will be in the ports tree. > > --Andrew hey, a kwik thankyew, andrew.... more tomorrow, ii dont know WHY i've been this tired in recent weeks, but i am. gary ps: What a wealth of software; it boggles my mind..... have just checked with my group. .... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 05:24:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2C31065671 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57013.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57013.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39BC28FC12 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 95641 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2008 05:24:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=AqjIkAODWsTP4lbmyGOw5bMhpumDb23I7iLpaa4cIP/vg6w6BvKPfDud69sr0R7bTY3KzDrRyVrn8a60rV3IrruaLtTV7TR/Yoj1sUeV589MCnAOKF4idIN77A2Rpotm7rAteBLRzfM0OcRrxdvj+h6TJ51P8eTcPK+nZEGjZTI=; Received: from [165.21.155.111] by web57013.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:24:01 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:24:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <87abht6hx2.fsf@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <407215.95455.qm@web57013.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Source directory of libm.so? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: unga888@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:24:02 -0000 --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > From: Giorgos Keramidas > Subject: Re: Source directory of libm.so? > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 12:19 PM > On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:02:52 -0700 (PDT), Unga > wrote: > > Hi all > > Where is the source directory of /lib/libm.so.x in > /usr/src/? > > > > grep -lr LIB=m /usr/src/ does not show any result. > > Try using a few spaces or TABs around '=' :) > > The directory you want is `/usr/src/lib/msun'. > OK :) thanks for the reply. Btw, is it a mistake a tab before the m in the Makefile or is it intentional? /usr/src/lib/msun/Makefile LIB= m Regards Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 06:41:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FEE21065675 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BE98FC33 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:41:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5A6fVqg065833; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:41:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5A6fSKg065782; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:41:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:41:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Edwin Groothuis In-Reply-To: <20080610043030.GA23335@k7.mavetju> Message-ID: <20080610084102.I64956@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080610043030.GA23335@k7.mavetju> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPv6 jails for FreeBSD (6.* preferably) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:41:37 -0000 >> exist in FreeBSD 6.*, everything else patched >> >> we will see after compiling. > > Did it work? Did it work? Did it work? > > (Or is the absence of a giant WOOOHOOO! the indicator that it didn't > work at all?) unfortunately not with 6.*, i was unable to complete patching by hand. but it works in 7.* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 07:02:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C041065676 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:02:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nejc@skoberne.net) Received: from delusion.skoberne.net (lk.84.20.249.154.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net [84.20.249.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4A18FC29 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:02:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nejc@skoberne.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by delusion.skoberne.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6957DB8D7; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:02:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from delusion.skoberne.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (delusion.skoberne.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25815-06; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:02:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.15.2] (simian.skoberne.local [192.168.15.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: nejkopejko@skoberne.net) by delusion.skoberne.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9201BB8B4; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:02:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484E26FD.4080605@skoberne.net> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:02:21 +0200 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Nejc_=8Akoberne?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Berry References: <4AF0C677-6628-49A6-BDD8-F5620CBF05F1@sentex.net> <484D895A.4050300@skoberne.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Openvpn on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:02:26 -0000 Hey, > I was using it because I could then assign my laptop the same IP easily > through my router (a separate device with DHCP) and also have hostnames > pushed through DHCP. But I imagine in my case I could do the same thing > with a tunnel. Actually I don't think you can do the same thing with a tunnel. You have to use a different IP addresses for the tunnel itself. Have you read the OpenVPN manual? > Yes, I did: 'tcpdump -i tun0'. Nothing shows up on the server, but on > the client (OS X) I can see the pings being sent. This means that there is a problem with the OpenVPN connection. Can you show the tail of your logs on both sides? > proto tcp Why are you using TCP anyway? Bye, Nejc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 07:32:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083B61065747 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhaneshkk@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s29.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s29.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C588FC16 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:32:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhaneshkk@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY127-W43 ([65.55.132.78]) by bay0-omc1-s29.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:20:12 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [203.129.255.188] From: dhaneshk k To: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:20:12 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9145C6E6-4C2F-4DA3-B953-4A91DC4C476B@goldmark.org> References: <20080609205426.N23640@awww.jeah.net> <9145C6E6-4C2F-4DA3-B953-4A91DC4C476B@goldmark.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2008 07:20:12.0547 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C135530:01C8CACA] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Adding a second disk to increase the space for /var on first dislk : 4 questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:32:18 -0000 people : I am facing a issue , in my FreeBSD server box the /var= (85 % now) directory is going to full , no space left in this disk any= more . But I have another disk in my box which is of 140 GB fresh disk , this I h= ave to add so I gone through=20 the FreeBSD hand book of adding a new disk . According to docs I sliced and partitioned the second disk , one doubt : here I created 10GB bsd partition in the second disk , I have to assign o assign this for /var (in my first disk /var is going = to full)=20 Q1 ) so in /etc/fstab , the mount point what I have to specify ? =20 /var itself or I need to create a directory (mkdir /myspace )=20 and add it as the mount point in /etc/fstab ? like this=20 /dev/da1s1e /myspace ufs rw 2 2 OR=20 /dev/da1s1e /var ufs rw 2 2 =20 which one is correct ? and after this editing of /etc/fstab and restarting of the machine . Q 2 ) my serverbox how it will continue to use the newly added space ?= for this I have to do any thing=20 some one told me that I have to copy all the contents of the /var of first= disk to this newly added space=20 is it right ? how to do that=20 Q3 ) dd /dev/da0s1d /dev/da1s1/e right ? (to copy the content= from /var (/dev/da0s1d) of the first disk to the newly added space= for var on the second disk (/dev/da1s1e )=20 Q4 ) Is it needed to install all the applications which already installed = in the /var of the first disk to the newly=20 added space on the second disk?=20 please give your tips and advice to achieve what I am trying to do. Man= y of you may have done this=20 before please help with your comments=20 Thanks in advance for all of you=20 Dhanesh _________________________________________________________________ No Harvard, No Oxford. We are here. Find out !! http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=3D500= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 07:50:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899EC1065674 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466008FC24 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [213.142.183.219] (helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K5ycA-00081q-4p; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:49:58 +0200 Message-ID: <484E3219.8020208@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:49:45 +0200 From: Pietro Cerutti Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: unga888@yahoo.com References: <407215.95455.qm@web57013.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <407215.95455.qm@web57013.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://gahr.ch/pgp/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - FreeBSD.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Source directory of libm.so? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:50:01 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Unga wrote: | --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: | |> From: Giorgos Keramidas |> Subject: Re: Source directory of libm.so? |> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org |> Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 12:19 PM |> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:02:52 -0700 (PDT), Unga |> wrote: |>> Hi all |>> Where is the source directory of /lib/libm.so.x in |> /usr/src/? |>> grep -lr LIB=m /usr/src/ does not show any result. |> Try using a few spaces or TABs around '=' :) |> |> The directory you want is `/usr/src/lib/msun'. |> | | OK :) thanks for the reply. | | Btw, is it a mistake a tab before the m in the Makefile or is it intentional? It's quite usual in Makefiles to put tabs after the variable name in assignment. | | /usr/src/lib/msun/Makefile | LIB= m | | Regards | Unga | | | | _______________________________________________ | freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list | http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions | To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" - -- Pietro Cerutti gahr@FreeBSD.org PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEAREKAAYFAkhOMhgACgkQwMJqmJVx945g4wCgheyhHG7RvvQcFdVDxGr3WfNc efQAnR6RAt1qaFJJFzdDASevBopXF+S+ =yKfE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 07:52:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01858106566B for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CEBF8FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4367213.home.otenet.gr [79.130.19.93]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m5A7qfUr016133; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:52:41 +0300 Message-ID: <484E32C9.5060709@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:52:41 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dhaneshk k References: <20080609205426.N23640@awww.jeah.net> <9145C6E6-4C2F-4DA3-B953-4A91DC4C476B@goldmark.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adding a second disk to increase the space for /var on first dislk : 4 questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:52:44 -0000 dhaneshk k wrote: > > people : I am facing a issue , in my FreeBSD server box the /var (85 % now) directory is going to full , no space left in this disk anymore . > > But I have another disk in my box which is of 140 GB fresh disk , this I have to add so I gone through > the FreeBSD hand book of adding a new disk . > > > According to docs I sliced and partitioned the second disk , > > one doubt : here I created 10GB bsd partition in the second disk , > > I have to assign o assign this for /var (in my first disk /var is going to full) > > > Q1 ) so in /etc/fstab , the mount point what I have to specify ? > > /var itself or I need to create a directory (mkdir /myspace ) > > and add it as the mount point in /etc/fstab ? like this > > > /dev/da1s1e /myspace ufs rw 2 2 > > > OR > > /dev/da1s1e /var ufs rw 2 2 > > > > which one is correct ? > > > > and after this editing of /etc/fstab and restarting of the machine . > > > Q 2 ) my serverbox how it will continue to use the newly added space ? for this I have to do any thing > > > some one told me that I have to copy all the contents of the /var of first disk to this newly added space > > is it right ? > > how to do that > > > Q3 ) dd /dev/da0s1d /dev/da1s1/e right ? (to copy the content from /var (/dev/da0s1d) of the first disk to the newly added space for var on the second disk (/dev/da1s1e ) > > > > Q4 ) Is it needed to install all the applications which already installed in the /var of the first disk to the newly > > added space on the second disk? > > > > > please give your tips and advice to achieve what I am trying to do. Many of you may have done this > > before please help with your comments > > > > > Thanks in advance for all of you > Dhanesh > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > No Harvard, No Oxford. We are here. Find out !! > http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=500_______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > You will have to do something like the following: - Mount the new partition to a temporary mount point (like /mnt) i.e.: mount /dev/da1s1e /mnt - Copy all the contents from /var to /mnt. Since /var is in use in a running system, the results maybe less than optimal. I suggest you switch to single user mode for doing this: shutdown now Use something like the following to transfer the files and permissions: tar cfC - /var . | tar xpfC - /mnt (thank you M.W. Lucas!) Now, unmount /var and /mnt and mount your new var: umount /var /mnt mount -o rw /dev/da1s1e /var Edit /etc/fstab and update it for the new disk: /dev/da1s1e /var ufs rw 2 2 either exit to multi user mode or reboot. Of course, check that the files were actually copied to their right places first! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 08:54:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079EC106566B for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:54:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE668FC15 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:54:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5A8sfCZ021939; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:54:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5A8scml021909; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:54:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:54:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "B. Cook" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080610104830.O18194@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <228F7E24-AFA2-4BD6-91B6-D610380C789A@poughkeepsieschools.org> <20080609181202.V51848@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror and resizing partitions.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:54:46 -0000 >> >> more exact info please. >> >> gmirror status >> mount or cat /etc/fstab > now much better - i know that you mirrored whole drives and then partitioned. are whole mirror labeled? if yes - what partition you have to trim down? if now - where are place (give me bsdlabel gm0s1 output) as you have 2 drives it's quite easy: it would be like that: gmirror remove gm0 ad6 gmirror forget ad6 gmirror clear /dev/ad6 gmirror label -b round-robin -s 1048576 m0 /dev/ad6 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ that's options i use, use what you think it's good for you. now - you have 2 degraded mirrors. old - gm0, new - m0 now partition m0 as you like. then - get the system down to single user, unmount everything except /, make / read-only then: with partition that are same sized use dd if=/dev/oldpartition of=/dev/newpartition bs=1m others - use newfs and tar|tar to copy files after all done, mount new root partition somewhere read write, and fix etc/fstab at the end - don't forget to bsdlabel -B then reboot from ad6. after successful boot: gmirror stop gm0 gmirror clear ad4 gmirror insert m0 ad4 to get all new things mirrored. PS. my advice. make one big partition+swap instead of so many. you won't have such problems again > > > > Name Status Components > mirror/gm0 COMPLETE ad4 > ad6 > > > # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# > /dev/mirror/gm0s1b none swap sw 0 0 > /dev/mirror/gm0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 > /dev/mirror/gm0s1h /exports ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/mirror/gm0s1g /home ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/mirror/gm0s1d /usr ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/mirror/gm0s1e /usr/local ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/mirror/gm0s1f /var ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > #/dev/da0s1 /mnt/root ufs ro 0 0 > #/dev/da0s1b none swap sw 0 0 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 09:57:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA71106567D for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C91C8FC1D for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [213.142.183.219] (helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K60bO-0000yh-Rr; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:57:18 +0200 Message-ID: <484E4FF3.7020903@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:57:07 +0200 From: Pietro Cerutti Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rahul References: <4804a6670806090713s235a0dddveb93799b2b6f8e4b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4804a6670806090713s235a0dddveb93799b2b6f8e4b@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://gahr.ch/pgp/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - FreeBSD.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory Limits X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:57:23 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Rahul wrote: | Hello, | | I'm new to FreeBSD and really attracted to it because of the | performance and stability it provides. So I am looking to develop a | high performance system that may need to process over 100K UDP | messages per second and be able to store information quickly. I | couldn't find much documentation on the memory limits in FreeBSD, | especially per-process limits in both 32-bit and 64-bit versions. | Could you please point me to where I can find such information along | with other performance tuning tips and characteristics of the OS to | keep in mind? The first ones coming to my mind are getrlimit(2) + relatives and tuning(7)... Hope this helps, have fun :) - -- Pietro Cerutti gahr@FreeBSD.org PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEAREKAAYFAkhOT/IACgkQwMJqmJVx944ctwCgt66ZyOstY6TNEY7PyJmrtQe+ gs8An1RTiZ0lYoORBNhbhl7umn/VvoTV =ZuJr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 10:02:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EF4106566B for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:02:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255668FC18 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:02:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [213.142.183.219] (helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K60gS-0001tI-SJ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:02:32 +0200 Message-ID: <484E512D.90309@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:02:21 +0200 From: Pietro Cerutti Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stevan Tiefert References: <861614.89640.qm@web23308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <861614.89640.qm@web23308.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://gahr.ch/pgp/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - FreeBSD.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Not possible to install KDE 3.5.8 and Apache 2.2 together? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:02:37 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Stevan Tiefert wrote: | Hello, | | when I want to install www/apache22 then following | error appears: | | beastie# make install clean | ===> Installing for apache-2.2.8 | | ===> apache-2.2.8 conflicts with installed | package(s): | apr-db42-1.2.8_2 Please configure apache to use the APR version coming from ports. You can do that by making $ make config in www/apache22 and selecting the first option (APR_FROM_PORTS) - -- Pietro Cerutti gahr@FreeBSD.org PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEAREKAAYFAkhOUSwACgkQwMJqmJVx944V9ACgvm+XzdCNArCDWs5RUXXZE64J X3wAoK9iLHidFIEF+np3Rsb5DsWzdDnw =B7c2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 11:08:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57071065677 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:08:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anhnmncb@sina.com) Received: from smtp.sina.com.cn (smtp.sina.com.cn [202.108.3.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A960F8FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:08:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anhnmncb@sina.com) Received: from localhost (unknown [221.6.39.130]) by smtp.sina.com.cn (SINAMAIL) with ESMTP id 5E1071709A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:46:04 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:37:56 +0800 From: anhnmncb To: freebsd-ml Message-ID: <20080610103756.GA13862@gentoo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Subject: bad file descriptor when mounting an ext2fs. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:08:46 -0000 Hi, list, Recently, I encounter a very annoying issue, when I try to mount an ext2fs filesystem in laptop disk, after mounted it without any errors, I can't access it, ls /mnt/da0s3 says "bad file descriptor". In that disk, also has msdos and ufs fs, but they work well. I tried reformat whole disk, and fsck.ext2 -f that ext2fs slice, nothing works at all. But my a local disk has ext2fs too, it can be mounted and used well, don't know why? -- Reguards, anhnmncb. PGP key: 44A31344 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 11:34:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E7B106566C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B0E8FC17 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:34:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so626760ana.13 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:34:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=mh/ecZiz2TzOZrgaf8CHcMahnpXgKLHbot2Pq/Gp/9M=; b=ki8L17nteKyNBmNca4moCWxZwuS4lwq/qYba2f0iNtV/Nu6uHhUMrM/ieykOJzayIl r8ZvZ76r+ULRcJqBucJ9/oeULJ5/w24tvk83XDsgWX7YXJdMkFhy+182dZgtv5F27CTR GYMMheEBTIqrqstRNfYl1l4C+GoG6/DiBSQs4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=TtQpJWFLdDAHtkZjOsw/0iHOKAunF7QVa0/x5GJdSN3c3YhTISKFZiwPck1iCGdkrp MeODIaJYtCOx58zegamCYljuSA8qA1/7M29upwDN2qAP6UpZWBeNrCKC3uFW3DxNBF9D ZJPmTyMjyeqHbJKcKqU81bibzlq8zphVJmmts= Received: by 10.100.137.11 with SMTP id k11mr5258450and.25.1213097652162; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:34:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 103-120-245-190.fibertel.com.ar ( [190.245.120.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm11943207ywc.8.2008.06.10.04.34.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:34:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:34:06 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <20080610103756.GA13862@gentoo> In-Reply-To: <20080610103756.GA13862@gentoo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806100834.06557.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: bad file descriptor when mounting an ext2fs. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:34:15 -0000 On Tuesday 10 June 2008 07:37:56 anhnmncb wrote: > Hi, list, > Recently, I encounter a very annoying issue, when I try to > mount an ext2fs filesystem in laptop disk, after mounted it without > any errors, I can't access it, ls /mnt/da0s3 says "bad file > descriptor". In that disk, also has msdos and ufs fs, but they > work well. > I tried reformat whole disk, and fsck.ext2 -f that ext2fs > slice, nothing works at all. > But my a local disk has ext2fs too, it can be mounted and used > well, don't know why? The same thing happens in here too .. The same question It has also been posted in this list on Friday 09 May 2008 14:40:06 by Isaac Mushinsky and me, but nobody answered ... On FreeBSD 7.0 i386 and Linux i386 in here, I get either get a 'Bad file descriptor' for directory /linux' or $ mount -t etx2fs /dev/ad0s7 /linux $ ls /linux No such file or directory I've got all of my music, pdfs, pictures and on a ext3 and I only need to mount it in order to get FreeBSD's Amarok access to my music collection. If somebody has solution or a pointer to a solution or whatever may help on this matter, I would greatly appreciate his/hers reply :) Blessings -- Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 12:09:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7151065671 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:09:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3E78FC25 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:09:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-0000133400000330-47-484e6f125307 Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:09:54 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:08:11 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20080609213118.GA21965@thought.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: what ype of app? port of "*free*"-service app? Thread-Index: AcjKeEv7MZBAnMt1SkWGVuwwFpexHwAeZp4g References: <20080609213118.GA21965@thought.org> From: "Bob McConnell" To: "Gary Kline" , "FreeBSD Mailing List" X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: Subject: RE: what ype of app? port of "*free*"-service app? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:09:07 -0000 On Behalf Of Gary Kline: >=20 > This is a bit hard to figure out how to phrase, so please bear > with me. I want to put-back a BBS/forum type app somewhere on my > site so that members of my writing group can continue to help me > with their suggestions and edits of my Jottings project. Some=20 > people are taking a break for the summer, &c. >=20 > I've had PHPBB up a few times, and lost it as many times for > different reasons. It takes about an hour to set up one of these > ``forum'' applications; I don't know about the others. =20 >=20 > Does anyone have a best-win/solution as to which port/package to > use? Or would it be just as good to go with a canned > (javascript or other) app? >=20 > Again: the nutshell is to allow my fellow writers to comment-on, > edit, suggest, critique, flame, whatever, my jotting meditation. > [for now, the URL would not be published.] Have you looked at any wiki software? I have Dokuwiki running on an Apache server here at the office as an idea and collaboration incubator. There were over 1100 pages created on it the first year. It's all written in PHP and was quite simple to set up. You can get it at . Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 12:10:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF95B10656C7 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:10:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B59A8FC23 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:10:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 29540 invoked by uid 89); 10 Jun 2008 12:11:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 10 Jun 2008 12:11:13 -0000 Message-ID: <484E6FBF.1030704@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:12:47 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20080610043030.GA23335@k7.mavetju> <20080610084102.I64956@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080610084102.I64956@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Edwin Groothuis , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPv6 jails for FreeBSD (6.* preferably) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:10:44 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> exist in FreeBSD 6.*, everything else patched >>> >>> we will see after compiling. >> >> Did it work? Did it work? Did it work? >> >> (Or is the absence of a giant WOOOHOOO! the indicator that it didn't >> work at all?) > > unfortunately not with 6.*, i was unable to complete patching by hand. > > but it works in 7.* WOHOOOO!!! ;) (....running off to try it) This is a HUGE step in aiding with implementing/debugging software that needs to be patched for IPv6 conformance (for me anyway). Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 12:56:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E067E106567A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stevan_tiefert@yahoo.de) Received: from n9.bullet.re3.yahoo.com (n9.bullet.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.237.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79D4A8FC1E for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stevan_tiefert@yahoo.de) Received: from [68.142.237.88] by n9.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2008 12:43:56 -0000 Received: from [66.196.97.146] by t4.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2008 12:43:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp204.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2008 12:43:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 775989.42449.bm@omp204.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 75052 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2008 12:43:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.de; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=2fqvemBrl9OCJeHyKPruv+Uue0spFwDZnlCME1KI6HzbY03PQdEW0eAvxaXTeEyUHbtq1Q5psBmDlM8o2PICUhhg/3eJEL4iBNJrL5dxYGpiaO6o/E9TWSvr7D4kcTpErQNYm38t+64GgEuBV+ZIB9GK4mMcAV1/3qEO2HGG+F4=; X-YMail-OSG: H3UvtNsVM1mhJVVmuR1pHH9.XdiEb7.x0m4Q.BkrMR0bKt6ocLEI6Wj_awkUyz4Zk3QPUay4IngJWJmrUySP1ZI2_NEETd9Y74W6kaLIZCxL_dQGNhICLMnULvw- Received: from [88.134.59.204] by web23307.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:43:55 CEST Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:43:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Stevan Tiefert To: Pietro Cerutti In-Reply-To: <484E512D.90309@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <839937.74657.qm@web23307.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Not possible to install KDE 3.5.8 and Apache 2.2 together? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:56:46 -0000 Thanks, it works! With regards Stevan Tiefert __________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail. Dem pfiffigeren Posteingang. http://de.overview.mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 13:28:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DF21065674 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:28:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhaneshkk@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s24.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s24.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83ED68FC2A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:28:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhaneshkk@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY127-W33 ([65.55.132.68]) by bay0-omc3-s24.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:15:24 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [203.129.255.188] From: dhaneshk k To: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:15:24 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <484E32C9.5060709@otenet.gr> References: <20080609205426.N23640@awww.jeah.net> <9145C6E6-4C2F-4DA3-B953-4A91DC4C476B@goldmark.org> <484E32C9.5060709@otenet.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2008 13:15:24.0951 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B421A70:01C8CAFC] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Manolis Kiagias Subject: Adding a second disk to increase the space for /var on first dislk : but umount /var failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:28:06 -0000 I followed as per the directions up to this=20 =20 > Now, unmount /var and /mnt and mount your new var: >=20 > umount /var /mnt > mount -o rw /dev/da1s1e /var >=20 > Edit /etc/fstab and update it for the new disk: >=20 > /dev/da1s1e /var ufs rw 2 2 I am able to umount /mnt but not /var=20 [root@storm ~]# umount /var/ umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy [root@storm ~]# umount /mnt/ [root@storm ~]# umount /var/ umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy [root@storm ~]# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad7s1a 496M 329M 127M 72% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/ad7s1e 496M 5.4M 451M 1% /tmp /dev/ad7s1f 44G 38G 2.9G 93% /usr /dev/ad7s1d 1.4G 221M 1.1G 16% /var devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /var/named/dev [root@storm ~]# umount /dev/ad7s1 ad7s1 ad7s1a ad7s1b ad7s1c ad7s1d ad7s1e ad7s1f =20 [root@storm ~]# umount /dev/ad7s1d=20 umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy [root@storm ~]# umouny /var/=20 bash: umouny: command not found [root@storm ~]# umouny /var=20 bash: umouny: command not found [root@storm ~]# umount /var umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy [root@storm ~]# pwd /root [root@storm ~]# umount /var umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy [root@storm ~]#=20 getting an error Error org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PermissionDeniedByPolic= y. Details hal-storage-fixed -mount refused uid 0 How to fix this an= d umount /var =20 Any hints most welcome :=20 Thanks in advance=20 Dhanesh > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:52:41 +0300 > From: sonicy@otenet.gr > To: dhaneshkk@hotmail.com > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Adding a second disk to increase the space for /var on first= dislk : 4 questions >=20 >=20 >=20 > dhaneshk k wrote: > > > > people : I am facing a issue , in my FreeBSD server box the = /var (85 % now) directory is going to full , no space left in this disk= anymore . > > > > But I have another disk in my box which is of 140 GB fresh disk , this= I have to add so I gone through=20 > > the FreeBSD hand book of adding a new disk . > > > > > > According to docs I sliced and partitioned the second disk , > > > > one doubt : here I created 10GB bsd partition in the second disk = , > > > > I have to assign o assign this for /var (in my first disk /var is go= ing to full)=20 > > > > > > Q1 ) so in /etc/fstab , the mount point what I have to specify = ? =20 > > > > /var itself or I need to create a directory (mkdir /myspace )=20 > > > > and add it as the mount point in /etc/fstab ? like this=20 > > > > > > /dev/da1s1e /myspace ufs rw 2 2 > > > > > > OR=20 > > > > /dev/da1s1e /var ufs rw 2 2 =20 > > > > > > > > which one is correct ? > > > > > > > > and after this editing of /etc/fstab and restarting of the machine . > > > > > > Q 2 ) my serverbox how it will continue to use the newly added spa= ce ? for this I have to do any thing=20 > > > > > > some one told me that I have to copy all the contents of the /var of f= irst disk to this newly added space=20 > > > > is it right ? > > > > how to do that=20 > > > > > > Q3 ) dd /dev/da0s1d /dev/da1s1/e right ? (to copy the con= tent from /var (/dev/da0s1d) of the first disk to the newly added s= pace for var on the second disk (/dev/da1s1e )=20 > > > > > > > > Q4 ) Is it needed to install all the applications which already instal= led in the /var of the first disk to the newly=20 > > > > added space on the second disk?=20 > > > > > > > > > > please give your tips and advice to achieve what I am trying to do. = Many of you may have done this=20 > > > > before please help with your comments=20 > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for all of you=20 > > Dhanesh > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > No Harvard, No Oxford. We are here. Find out !! > > http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=3D500___________________________= ____________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" > > > > > > > > =20 >=20 > You will have to do something like the following: >=20 > - Mount the new partition to a temporary mount point (like /mnt) i.e.: >=20 > mount /dev/da1s1e /mnt >=20 > - Copy all the contents from /var to /mnt. Since /var is in use in a=20 > running system, the results maybe less than optimal. I suggest you=20 > switch to single user mode for doing this: >=20 > shutdown now >=20 > Use something like the following to transfer the files and permissions: >=20 > tar cfC - /var . | tar xpfC - /mnt >=20 > (thank you M.W. Lucas!) >=20 > Now, unmount /var and /mnt and mount your new var: >=20 > umount /var /mnt > mount -o rw /dev/da1s1e /var >=20 > Edit /etc/fstab and update it for the new disk: >=20 > /dev/da1s1e /var ufs rw 2 2 >=20 > either exit to multi user mode or reboot. Of course, check that the=20 > files were actually copied to their right places first! >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" _________________________________________________________________ 2000 Placements last year. Are You next ? Find out http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=3D499= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 13:52:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75981065679 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:52:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.78.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1958FC23 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:52:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 981AE28473; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:52:57 -0400 (EDT) To: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" References: <239027.58459.qm@web53408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:52:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: <239027.58459.qm@web53408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> (Jennifer Nussbaum's message of "Mon\, 9 Jun 2008 10\:09\:52 -0700 \(PDT\)") Message-ID: <44skvlcs7a.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libcdio upgrade problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:52:58 -0000 "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" writes: > Im trying to upgrade some ports, and have a problem with libcdio. At least i > think i do. > > When i try to upgrade, say, Nautilus (or a buncha other things), it dies in the > end with a "libcdio-0.78.2_2 is already installed. You may wish to make deinstall" > etc. message. > > But i did go to /usr/ports/sysytils/libcdio and make deinstall and make reinstall, > and this was successful. I sync'd the ports collection again, but no luck. Nothing > in UPDATING about this. Sounds like the dependencies are confused. pkgdb(1) may help with that. If not, the brute force approach would be to remove the affected ports all the way back to (and including) libcdio, and build them over. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 14:10:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02E61065674 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:10:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: from web53409.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web53409.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.37.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A2F688FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:10:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 70745 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2008 14:10:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=abxCle+Swt8BpQ54RjZ1Gf7FbrKgcKvcyweAUB12ZBEo9SUFpcXjuv+qnck5gOv/soSIq1kfMrKKLoGmcqnk778UgUzNT2KF1UnEPXDZpbtLLMMqC/+iq9up5limDPFdrQTozrqyFzGsonoYaSxPIQewNFknmBULSRdr0pg3nJE=; X-YMail-OSG: G7RTKZAVM1mz0Jsob.JE3bqsxbAHj5DEr4zUPNjgDsKRrcdRfbJC_oV5DeEJmzE05zV1i2O4iWlvY4NeTWq8D_ez_AuqJhDo.kBgmw-- Received: from [12.182.77.130] by web53409.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:10:28 PDT Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:10:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44skvlcs7a.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <641252.69897.qm@web53409.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: libcdio upgrade problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:10:30 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" writes: > Im trying to upgrade some ports, and have a problem with libcdio. At least i > think i do. > > When i try to upgrade, say, Nautilus (or a buncha other things), it dies in the > end with a "libcdio-0.78.2_2 is already installed. You may wish to make deinstall" > etc. message. > > But i did go to /usr/ports/sysytils/libcdio and make deinstall and make reinstall, > and this was successful. I sync'd the ports collection again, but no luck. Nothing > in UPDATING about this. Sounds like the dependencies are confused. pkgdb(1) may help with that. If not, the brute force approach would be to remove the affected ports all the way back to (and including) libcdio, and build them over. I havent been able to figure out how to fix things with pkgdb. And i have tried, over and over, to remove the affected ports and build them from scratch but it hasnt been working. So i went to libcdio and did a make deinstall, deleted the work files, and did a make install clean, and it installed fine. Then i tried to build gvfs, also by doing a make install clean, and it died in the same way--telling me to make deinstall and make reinstall of libcdio. Ive tried this several times with no luck. If theres an even more brute force way id like to know what it is so i can do that. This is preventing a lot of other upgrades to GNOME, which i need. Thanks! Jen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 14:12:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5F4106567A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30E028FC23 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so222458yxl.13 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:12:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=4rOslnp8/+vA2nTaCPMTRnQnO+TnIHkv/IJdN6wQ2Ws=; b=pBh88wBPfx13GRt9zE/6a65rU4SKtZvL9LaYsSSjVheS2eQ1/BHOtPkt8PqVxPS7eN mU7voyp8FSnzTSlWusQfAgQnh6UsfcjIk/zehcP6/7GyAUL5RjEdG5LvnxQ0gwgu01RF 7z9Xn0d3bwoz0e4CTZVZELnLfGPw6RW4TvEWI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=XrOVCTJjbzAfrcM4cWHYDX4l8DVcIc3aQP8yJ8LNKic4YJHROgU/y1bwIBhWCJE/xt P9bLSXazVoknhDs49YPa0KTLjMVbo/PxVY3O+6mAS0hVBVwwaen9XLcE7lMw5Rij2J3C mf/GSZSiaJ/LOJUqDWz5xhqhtwoXsJy3PtkmU= Received: by 10.142.213.10 with SMTP id l10mr2068974wfg.287.1213107155598; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.217.10 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:12:35 -0400 From: "Tsu-Fan Cheng" To: Kitche In-Reply-To: <1175.72.65.6.48.1213049139.squirrel@kitchetech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1175.72.65.6.48.1213049139.squirrel@kitchetech.com> Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: portmaster argument question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:12:37 -0000 Hi all, now I am taking a step back, instead of letting portmaster decides which to upgrade, I use the option "-i" to interactively update the ports. and I found out that "-uBdir" is different from "-u -B -d -i -r", the latter one is the right way. I dont know how to use "-R" option, since I have tried "-R -r" but portmaster still upgrade every single port, With "-i" option, portmaster still re-upgrade gettext, but at least it's moving to new ports that have not been upgraded. this is just my two cents... thanks! TFC On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Kitche wrote: >> Hi, >> just noticed that I need to update a whole bunch of ports due to >> gettext issue, I am used to portmaster and henceforth exec portmaster >> -uBdr gettext\* -x avifile to server this need. however, the update is >> interrupted and needed to restart, I noticed an option (-R) to allow >> skipping ports already up to date. so it becomes portmaster -uBdRr >> gettext\* -x avifile, but i noticed that portmaster still >> recompile/reinstall gettext and everything that needs it. how can I >> get this done right?? thank you!! >> >> TFC >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > Yes I would like to know this as well to make sure I m doing it correctly. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 14:14:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DF6106566B for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3348FC13 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [213.142.183.219] (helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K64by-00084J-4u; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:14:10 +0200 Message-ID: <484E8C28.1060703@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:14:00 +0200 From: Pietro Cerutti Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" References: <641252.69897.qm@web53409.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <641252.69897.qm@web53409.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://gahr.ch/pgp/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - FreeBSD.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libcdio upgrade problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:14:17 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: | | Lowell Gilbert wrote: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" writes: | |> Im trying to upgrade some ports, and have a problem with libcdio. At least i |> think i do. |> |> When i try to upgrade, say, Nautilus (or a buncha other things), it dies in the |> end with a "libcdio-0.78.2_2 is already installed. You may wish to make deinstall" |> etc. message. |> |> But i did go to /usr/ports/sysytils/libcdio and make deinstall and make reinstall, |> and this was successful. I sync'd the ports collection again, but no luck. Nothing |> in UPDATING about this. | | Sounds like the dependencies are confused. pkgdb(1) may help with | that. If not, the brute force approach would be to remove the | affected ports all the way back to (and including) libcdio, and build | them over. | I havent been able to figure out how to fix things with pkgdb. And i have tried, over and over, to remove the affected ports and build them from scratch but it hasnt been working. | | So i went to libcdio and did a make deinstall, deleted the work files, and did a make install clean, and it installed fine. Then i tried to build gvfs, also by doing a make install clean, and it died in the same way--telling me to make deinstall and make reinstall of libcdio. | | Ive tried this several times with no luck. If theres an even more brute force way id like to know what it is so i can do that. This is preventing a lot of other upgrades to GNOME, which i need. Not to point out the obvious, but you're sure your port tree is up-to-date? | | Thanks! | | Jen | | | _______________________________________________ | freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list | http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions | To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" - -- Pietro Cerutti gahr@FreeBSD.org PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEAREKAAYFAkhOjCcACgkQwMJqmJVx944niQCeMNdtOQOfePqCiys0RFK1xg20 nnMAnRpHOqMO4BiSTpO+KY5ZBuRPT1Ok =nNAK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 14:20:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524A31065672 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:20:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: from web53411.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web53411.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.39.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 037BC8FC1A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:20:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 87990 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2008 14:20:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=M7KSCuhVPyAZstxiOUrekih5dUFEF4haTo/8Ox1wi3GdRh6b4fPRiEUIihYygt48KuBh0IG0+wRpI5TSNhSktWrvX9Dq8JARD1gMVUJwlTMByen9rt7z1vp9A2PN2q4mMj6Zmfa1EjnGvPjnEWLDIr7JXgzTShL0LJUcQip/DDk=; X-YMail-OSG: vCDm2IwVM1m27dTnSSOwxKn619BDW7lrHZKqYNe3C3NdMSXTAELCQs2FROiAfeJi9sdDaNZHkrOq Received: from [12.182.77.130] by web53411.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:20:31 PDT Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:20:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" To: Pietro Cerutti In-Reply-To: <484E8C28.1060703@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <93089.87867.qm@web53411.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libcdio upgrade problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:20:33 -0000 Pietro Cerutti wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: | | Lowell Gilbert wrote: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" writes: | |> Im trying to upgrade some ports, and have a problem with libcdio. At least i |> think i do. |> |> When i try to upgrade, say, Nautilus (or a buncha other things), it dies in the |> end with a "libcdio-0.78.2_2 is already installed. You may wish to make deinstall" |> etc. message. |> |> But i did go to /usr/ports/sysytils/libcdio and make deinstall and make reinstall, |> and this was successful. I sync'd the ports collection again, but no luck. Nothing |> in UPDATING about this. | | Sounds like the dependencies are confused. pkgdb(1) may help with | that. If not, the brute force approach would be to remove the | affected ports all the way back to (and including) libcdio, and build | them over. | I havent been able to figure out how to fix things with pkgdb. And i have tried, over and over, to remove the affected ports and build them from scratch but it hasnt been working. | | So i went to libcdio and did a make deinstall, deleted the work files, and did a make install clean, and it installed fine. Then i tried to build gvfs, also by doing a make install clean, and it died in the same way--telling me to make deinstall and make reinstall of libcdio. | | Ive tried this several times with no luck. If theres an even more brute force way id like to know what it is so i can do that. This is preventing a lot of other upgrades to GNOME, which i need. Not to point out the obvious, but you're sure your port tree is up-to-date? Yes as i said in my first post i resynced ports before this, and just did it again to make sure. No changes to this port or any of the others involved. Jen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 14:33:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E87E10657C6 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:33:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from IwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za) Received: from a.mail.ru.ac.za (a.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECEA18FC1D for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:33:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from IwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za) Received: from iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.249]:52615) by a.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1K64v0-0003pC-Cb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:33:50 +0200 Received: from iwr61.iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.161]) by iwr.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1K64v0-0002DH-BS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:33:50 +0200 From: "DA Forsyth" Organization: IWR To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:33:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <484EACEB.7169.43FE1258@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: a.mail.ru.ac.za (146.231.129.33) Subject: xRAID disks.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:33:56 -0000 Hiya I've had this for a while now and have done many searches for info but have not yet come up with the right question, hence have not got the answer. My main server has an Adaptec IDE raid card. A couple of years ago I took disks that had been a mirror pair on that card out of the server and put them into my test server, not as a raid pair since the test server has no raid hardware. During boot I see this ad0: 19092MB at ata0-master UDMA66 ad1: 76319MB at ata0-slave UDMA66 ad2: 76319MB at ata1-master UDMA66 ad3: 19092MB at ata1-slave UDMA66 ar0: 76319MB status: BROKEN ar0: disk0 DOWN no device found for this subdisk ar0: disk1 DOWN no device found for this subdisk The pair of ex-RAID disks are ad1 and ad2 and obviously are no longer a raid pair, yet 'something' is telling the ar() driver to try and pair them and failing because there is no raid hardware in that box. Now I am reconfiguring that machine a bit and would like to fix this, both on these existing drives and on the 320MB drive I have just removed from a RAID1 pair and will be putting into the box instead of ad3 (the other 320GB from the pair is in a USB enclosure for other purposes and has not shown any signs of knowing it was in a raid pair) I suspect the raidinfo is stored on the disk somewhere and a suitable 'dd' command can erase it. but where and how? thanks for your help -- DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 14:41:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4B61065674 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ggroth@gregs-garage.com) Received: from mail.gregs-garage.com (h-64-105-8-34.chcgilgm.covad.net [64.105.8.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40108FC1E for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:40:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ggroth@gregs-garage.com) Received: from [10.1.70.50] (209-252-69-66.ip.mcleodusa.net [209.252.69.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.gregs-garage.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5AETC90042642; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:29:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ggroth@gregs-garage.com) Message-ID: <484E8FCD.1020609@gregs-garage.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:29:33 -0500 From: Greg Groth User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" References: <239027.58459.qm@web53408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <239027.58459.qm@web53408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on mail.gregs-garage.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libcdio upgrade problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:41:00 -0000 Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: > Hi, > > Im trying to upgrade some ports, and have a problem with libcdio. At least i > think i do. > > When i try to upgrade, say, Nautilus (or a buncha other things), it dies in the > end with a "libcdio-0.78.2_2 is already installed. You may wish to make deinstall" > etc. message. > > But i did go to /usr/ports/sysytils/libcdio and make deinstall and make reinstall, > and this was successful. I sync'd the ports collection again, but no luck. Nothing > in UPDATING about this. > > Thanks! > > Jen > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I've run into similar experiences with other ports, and what I have done to get it to work is to deinstall the complaining port (in this instance libcdio), and let the original port install it as a dependency instead of doing a "make reinstall". Best regards, Greg Groth From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 14:55:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03921065676 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:55:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7660B8FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:55:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4367213.home.otenet.gr [79.130.19.93]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m5AEtRUT021044; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:55:27 +0300 Message-ID: <484E95DF.9040208@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:55:27 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dhaneshk k References: <20080609205426.N23640@awww.jeah.net> <9145C6E6-4C2F-4DA3-B953-4A91DC4C476B@goldmark.org> <484E32C9.5060709@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Adding a second disk to increase the space for /var on first dislk : but umount /var failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:55:30 -0000 dhaneshk k wrote: > > I followed as per the directions up to this > > >> Now, unmount /var and /mnt and mount your new var: >> >> umount /var /mnt >> mount -o rw /dev/da1s1e /var >> >> Edit /etc/fstab and update it for the new disk: >> >> /dev/da1s1e /var ufs rw 2 2 >> > > > I am able to umount /mnt but not /var > > > > [root@storm ~]# umount /var/ > umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy > [root@storm ~]# umount /mnt/ > [root@storm ~]# umount /var/ > umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy > [root@storm ~]# df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad7s1a 496M 329M 127M 72% / > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > /dev/ad7s1e 496M 5.4M 451M 1% /tmp > /dev/ad7s1f 44G 38G 2.9G 93% /usr > /dev/ad7s1d 1.4G 221M 1.1G 16% /var > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /var/named/dev > [root@storm ~]# umount /dev/ad7s1 > ad7s1 ad7s1a ad7s1b ad7s1c ad7s1d ad7s1e ad7s1f > [root@storm ~]# umount /dev/ad7s1d > umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy > [root@storm ~]# umouny /var/ > bash: umouny: command not found > [root@storm ~]# umouny /var > bash: umouny: command not found > [root@storm ~]# umount /var > umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy > [root@storm ~]# pwd > /root > [root@storm ~]# umount /var > umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy > [root@storm ~]# > > > > getting an error Error org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PermissionDeniedByPolicy. > > Details hal-storage-fixed -mount refused uid 0 How to fix this and umount /var > > > > > Notice I have asked you to switch to single user mode before copying or unmounting var. But from your prompt, I understand you are still running full multiuser, and of course, /var will not unmount then. Remount /usr and issue the command: shutdown now to switch to single user mode. You need console access for this, do not attempt it remotely (unless you have a serial console) ! Then continue from the point you copy the data using the tar command. If you have already copied data from /var to the new partition, this may well be stale since /var was in use. You may wish to newfs the new partition again in this case. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 14:56:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199CF106566C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:56:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147858FC29 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5AEu7NC068323; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:56:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5AEu7KA068320; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:56:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:56:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: DA Forsyth In-Reply-To: <484EACEB.7169.43FE1258@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> Message-ID: <20080610165435.M68290@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484EACEB.7169.43FE1258@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xRAID disks.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:56:14 -0000 > > The pair of ex-RAID disks are ad1 and ad2 and obviously are no longer > a raid pair, yet 'something' is telling the ar() driver to try and > pair them and failing because there is no raid hardware in that box. there are no "raid hardware" on most devices. it's just marketing hype. actually there is not much need to have it for RAID-0/1/10 where there is almostnothing to process. > purposes and has not shown any signs of knowing it was in a raid > pair) > > I suspect the raidinfo is stored on the disk somewhere and a suitable > 'dd' command can erase it. but where and how? erase the whole drive. and next time don't use "hardware" RAID anymore. use gmirror and gstripe to have PORTABLE RAID. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 14:59:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A31106564A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93318FC1E for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:59:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:59924 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K65Jp-0003me-5j for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:59:29 +0200 Received: (qmail 76312 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2008 16:59:26 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2008 16:59:26 +0200 Received: (qmail 67035 invoked by uid 1001); 10 Jun 2008 16:59:26 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:59:26 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: DA Forsyth Message-ID: <20080610145926.GA66984@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <484EACEB.7169.43FE1258@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <484EACEB.7169.43FE1258@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1K65Jp-0003me-5j. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1K65Jp-0003me-5j c2e079f9f194f79cf7467cbb76813882 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xRAID disks.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:59:31 -0000 On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:33:47PM +0200, DA Forsyth wrote: > Hiya > > I've had this for a while now and have done many searches for info > but have not yet come up with the right question, hence have not got > the answer. > > My main server has an Adaptec IDE raid card. A couple of years ago I > took disks that had been a mirror pair on that card out of the server > and put them into my test server, not as a raid pair since the test > server has no raid hardware. > > During boot I see this > ad0: 19092MB at ata0-master UDMA66 > ad1: 76319MB at ata0-slave UDMA66 > ad2: 76319MB at ata1-master UDMA66 > ad3: 19092MB at ata1-slave UDMA66 > ar0: 76319MB status: BROKEN > ar0: disk0 DOWN no device found for this subdisk > ar0: disk1 DOWN no device found for this subdisk > > The pair of ex-RAID disks are ad1 and ad2 and obviously are no longer > a raid pair, yet 'something' is telling the ar() driver to try and > pair them and failing because there is no raid hardware in that box. > > Now I am reconfiguring that machine a bit and would like to fix this, > both on these existing drives and on the 320MB drive I have just > removed from a RAID1 pair and will be putting into the box instead of > ad3 (the other 320GB from the pair is in a USB enclosure for other > purposes and has not shown any signs of knowing it was in a raid > pair) > > I suspect the raidinfo is stored on the disk somewhere and a suitable > 'dd' command can erase it. but where and how? That kind of information is usually stored last on the disk (where it is least likely to be overwritten by filesystems, partitioning info, or boot loaders), so if you overwrite the last couple of KBs on those disks you will probably be fine. (If you want to be certain you can always use 'dd' to nuke all the information on the disk. That will take longer time, but you get the extra advantage of testing all the blocks on the disk so that they work correctly.) For the first you could do something like: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1 bs=1m skip=76318 which should overwrite the last MB of ad1 with zeros. To erase all of the disk: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1 bs=1m -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 15:05:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1C11065679 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:05:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9D28FC19 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:05:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:62448 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K65Pm-0007LO-8n for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:05:39 +0200 Received: (qmail 76398 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2008 17:05:36 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2008 17:05:36 +0200 Received: (qmail 67100 invoked by uid 1001); 10 Jun 2008 17:05:36 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:05:36 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080610150536.GA67056@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <484EACEB.7169.43FE1258@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> <20080610165435.M68290@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080610165435.M68290@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1K65Pm-0007LO-8n. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1K65Pm-0007LO-8n c749beae0d56439fc788e229534e164d Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, DA Forsyth Subject: Re: xRAID disks.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:05:40 -0000 On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:56:07PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > The pair of ex-RAID disks are ad1 and ad2 and obviously are no longer > > a raid pair, yet 'something' is telling the ar() driver to try and > > pair them and failing because there is no raid hardware in that box. > > there are no "raid hardware" on most devices. it's just marketing hype. Most (cheap) RAID controllers do almost everything in software. Some do have hardware support. > actually there is not much need to have it for RAID-0/1/10 where there is > almostnothing to process. For mirrors it can actually be a big win with hardware support. If you use software RAID then you will have to perform each write twice (once to each disk), while with hardware support for RAID you only need to transfer the data once. If the controller resides on a PCI-bus together with several other devices (which is not uncommon) then the reduced bandwidth usage can be very useful. (And for RAID you will need at least some support on the controller if you want to be able to boot from a striped volume.) > > > purposes and has not shown any signs of knowing it was in a raid > > pair) > > > > I suspect the raidinfo is stored on the disk somewhere and a suitable > > 'dd' command can erase it. but where and how? > erase the whole drive. > > and next time don't use "hardware" RAID anymore. use gmirror and gstripe > to have PORTABLE RAID. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 15:09:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85DB106564A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:09:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A22C8FC17 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:09:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4367213.home.otenet.gr [79.130.19.93]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m5AF9PmT024199; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:09:26 +0300 Message-ID: <484E9925.2050507@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:09:25 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Trulsson References: <484EACEB.7169.43FE1258@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> <20080610145926.GA66984@owl.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20080610145926.GA66984@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, DA Forsyth Subject: Re: xRAID disks.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:09:29 -0000 Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:33:47PM +0200, DA Forsyth wrote: > >> Hiya >> >> I've had this for a while now and have done many searches for info >> but have not yet come up with the right question, hence have not got >> the answer. >> >> My main server has an Adaptec IDE raid card. A couple of years ago I >> took disks that had been a mirror pair on that card out of the server >> and put them into my test server, not as a raid pair since the test >> server has no raid hardware. >> >> During boot I see this >> ad0: 19092MB at ata0-master UDMA66 >> ad1: 76319MB at ata0-slave UDMA66 >> ad2: 76319MB at ata1-master UDMA66 >> ad3: 19092MB at ata1-slave UDMA66 >> ar0: 76319MB status: BROKEN >> ar0: disk0 DOWN no device found for this subdisk >> ar0: disk1 DOWN no device found for this subdisk >> >> The pair of ex-RAID disks are ad1 and ad2 and obviously are no longer >> a raid pair, yet 'something' is telling the ar() driver to try and >> pair them and failing because there is no raid hardware in that box. >> >> Now I am reconfiguring that machine a bit and would like to fix this, >> both on these existing drives and on the 320MB drive I have just >> removed from a RAID1 pair and will be putting into the box instead of >> ad3 (the other 320GB from the pair is in a USB enclosure for other >> purposes and has not shown any signs of knowing it was in a raid >> pair) >> >> I suspect the raidinfo is stored on the disk somewhere and a suitable >> 'dd' command can erase it. but where and how? >> > > That kind of information is usually stored last on the disk (where it is > least likely to be overwritten by filesystems, partitioning info, or boot > loaders), so if you overwrite the last couple of KBs on those disks you will > probably be fine. > (If you want to be certain you can always use 'dd' to nuke all the > information on the disk. That will take longer time, but you get the extra > advantage of testing all the blocks on the disk so that they work > correctly.) > > For the first you could do something like: > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1 bs=1m skip=76318 > which should overwrite the last MB of ad1 with zeros. > > To erase all of the disk: > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1 bs=1m > > > I recently removed one pair of disks from a windows "hardware :)" RAID controller, and upon inserting it into a newly built FreeBSD system, it was immediately detected by the ar driver, and messages started coming in, like in your case. Although I ended up removing the ar device from the kernel (I was going to use gmirror), I found out that there is possibly another way to make the disks forget about their previous RAID-life: atacontrol delete ar0 Have a look at man atacontrol. I have not tried it, but it is probably worth a try. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 15:13:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD061065673 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21068FC17 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5AFDVIT076166; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:13:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5AFDVVH076163; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:13:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:13:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Erik Trulsson In-Reply-To: <20080610150536.GA67056@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Message-ID: <20080610171129.K75322@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484EACEB.7169.43FE1258@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> <20080610165435.M68290@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080610150536.GA67056@owl.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, DA Forsyth Subject: Re: xRAID disks.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:13:36 -0000 x> hardware support. > >> actually there is not much need to have it for RAID-0/1/10 where there is >> almostnothing to process. > > For mirrors it can actually be a big win with hardware support. > If you use software RAID then you will have to perform each write twice > (once to each disk), in parallel > while with hardware support for RAID you only need > to transfer the data once. which saves at most 100MB/s bandwidth - compare this to 5-10GB/s in modern machines. If the controller resides on a PCI-bus together > with several other devices (which is not uncommon) then the reduced > bandwidth usage can be very useful. true. but not if it's builtin in chipset or on PCI express. there are really not worth price. unless you need RAID-5. but with todays disk prices it's better to just use RAID-1+0 and bigger drives. with software RAID you are not forced to operate on whole disks. usually not everything has to be mirrored. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 15:15:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCC21065677 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:15:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94AB88FC27 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5AFEtNt076573; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:14:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5AFEtNY076570; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:14:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:14:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Manolis Kiagias In-Reply-To: <484E9925.2050507@otenet.gr> Message-ID: <20080610171352.T75322@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484EACEB.7169.43FE1258@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> <20080610145926.GA66984@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <484E9925.2050507@otenet.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, DA Forsyth Subject: Re: xRAID disks.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:15:01 -0000 > > I recently removed one pair of disks from a windows "hardware :)" RAID > controller, and upon inserting it into a newly built FreeBSD system, it was > immediately detected by the ar driver, and messages started coming in, like is there actually any difference in ar and gmirror/gstripe except that ar is simpler, takes only whole drives and use "hardware RAID ;)" compatible headers ? > make the disks forget about their previous RAID-life: > > atacontrol delete ar0 > > Have a look at man atacontrol. I have not tried it, but it is probably worth > a try. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 15:17:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04919106566B for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:17:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from galileo.cs.uoguelph.ca (galileo.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.94.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CCF8FC28 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:17:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from batman.cs.uoguelph.ca (batman.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.93.48]) by galileo.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5AFHU4L014964; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:17:32 -0400 Received: from blizzard.lan (p201xjl1ll.dsl2.sentex.ca [64.7.159.203]) (authenticated bits=0) by batman.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m5AFH9Za004698 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:17:10 -0400 Message-Id: From: Andrew Berry To: Novembre In-Reply-To: <3b47caa90806092110o4f409778u29aa15be92c0959e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-117-728128490; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:17:25 -0400 References: <3b47caa90806082022g65e88d97q3fa3d99d3b790ddc@mail.gmail.com> <20080609064047.b74f4b95.bsd-unix@embarqmail.com> <3b47caa90806092110o4f409778u29aa15be92c0959e@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) X-Spam-Scanner: SpamAssassin 3.002003 (http://www.spamassassin.org/) on galileo X-Spam-Score: hits=1.0 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Tests: SPF_SOFTFAIL X-Spam-Status: Suspected X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 131.104.94.215 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 172.17.94.85 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Randy Pratt , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:17:36 -0000 --Apple-Mail-117-728128490 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 10-Jun-08, at 12:10 AM, Novembre wrote: > So to be more specific, how can I answer to a post from a mailing > list from > within my, e.g., GMail or Yahoo! mailboxes? You might be able to use telnet to open a connection to Google's SMTP servers, and paste the entire message, headers included, into the transmission. You'd have to know how to manually use SMTP and hope that Google accepts email from your machine. You could also look into writing a script in (Perl or Python would be good) to allow you to do it yourself, so you would have control over most of the headers. --Andrew --Apple-Mail-117-728128490-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 15:18:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7948D1065672 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA688FC2A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:18:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5AFIP4Y077409 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:18:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5AFIPSA077406 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:18:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:18:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080610171600.R76827@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:18:30 -0000 i'm getting lots of things like this in logs: Jun 10 17:13:50 wojtek named[909]: client 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:241#60282: query (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/MX/IN' denied Jun 10 17:13:52 wojtek named[909]: client 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:265#60123: query (cache) 'dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl/A/IN' denied Jun 10 17:13:52 wojtek named[909]: client 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:265#60123: query (cache) 'dns.tensor.gdynia.pl/A/IN' denied Jun 10 17:13:52 wojtek named[909]: client 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:265#60123: query (cache) 'dns.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied Jun 10 17:13:52 wojtek named[909]: client 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:265#60123: query (cache) 'dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied Jun 10 17:13:53 wojtek named[909]: client 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:265#60123: query (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/MX/IN' denied Jun 10 17:14:08 wojtek named[909]: client 2a01:170:102f::2#53539: query (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied Jun 10 17:14:12 wojtek named[909]: client 2001:648:2000:de::220#49152: query (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied Jun 10 17:14:13 wojtek named[909]: client 2001:6b0:b:2::10#63014: query (cache) 'dns.tensor.gdynia.pl/A/IN' denied Jun 10 17:14:13 wojtek named[909]: client 2001:6b0:b:2::10#63014: query (cache) 'dns.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied Jun 10 17:14:13 wojtek named[909]: client 2001:6b0:b:2::10#63014: query (cache) 'dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl/A/IN' denied Jun 10 17:14:13 wojtek named[909]: client 2001:6b0:b:2::10#63014: query (cache) 'dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied Jun 10 17:14:22 wojtek named[909]: client 2001:470:1f08:251::2#46902: query (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied Jun 10 17:14:22 wojtek named[909]: client 2001:418:c01::5#53208: query (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied Jun 10 17:14:32 wojtek named[909]: client 2001:4830:167d:5237::3:1#59882: query (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied Jun 10 17:14:32 wojtek named[909]: client 2001:4830:167d:5237::3:1#59882: query (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/ANY/IN' denied my computer is NOT set up as DNS server for any domain. why they are asking? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 15:21:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B81F1065679 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-24.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-24.bluehost.com [69.89.21.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE96E8FC18 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 2104 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jun 2008 15:21:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2008 15:21:08 -0000 Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K65el-00019o-NN for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:21:07 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:16:43 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:16:43 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20080610151643.GA66787@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} DomainKey-Status: no signature Subject: wireless drops connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:21:10 -0000 --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've gone from using CAT5 to 802.11g for my laptop's network connectivity while I'm at home. Unfortunately, since I've done so, my connection drops from time to time, and I usually don't notice for a while. The period between drops does not seem to be constant, however, as I lost my connection at some point yesterday without noticing, but when I did notice I reestablished contact, then lost my connection again a few minutes later. The connection has not dropped again since then, however. I'm using an Intel 2200BG adapter (Centrino chipset) with WPA encryption and the wpa_supplicant connection manager. My wpa_supplicant.conf: ctrl_interface=3D/var/run/wpa_supplicant ctrl_interface_group=3Dwheel # netwerk network=3D{ ssid=3D"netwerk" psk=3D"ssdpbwqaougj6hr9" } (PSK changed to protect the guilty) When the connection drops, I get the following in /var/log/messages: Jun 9 23:14:21 hostname kernel: iwi0: link state changed to DOWN Jun 9 23:14:28 hostname kernel: iwi0: scan stuck Jun 9 23:14:34 hostname kernel: iwi0: could not allocate firmware DMA memory (watch the line wrap) In case it isn't obvious, "iwi0" is my wireless interface. All /va/log/dmesg seems to show is this: iwi0: link state changed to DOWN iwi0: scan stuck Any ideas on where to go from here would be appreciated. Is this a driver bug, or am I doing something wrong? Another (effectively identical) laptop running Debian does not have this problem. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Bill McKibben: "The laws of Congress and the laws of physics have grown increasingly divergent, and the laws of physics are not likely to yield." --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhOmtsACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW8/wCgnwKS6tegExK8azeBXmHfarJT OFwAoNzsb4cOfTNfG/2271cCHPZHX6ie =k6ny -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 15:24:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67A01065689 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195888FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:24:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4367213.home.otenet.gr [79.130.19.93]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m5AFOqnQ024810; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:24:52 +0300 Message-ID: <484E9CC4.8000904@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:24:52 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <484EACEB.7169.43FE1258@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> <20080610145926.GA66984@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <484E9925.2050507@otenet.gr> <20080610171352.T75322@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080610171352.T75322@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, DA Forsyth Subject: Re: xRAID disks.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:24:54 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> I recently removed one pair of disks from a windows "hardware :)" >> RAID controller, and upon inserting it into a newly built FreeBSD >> system, it was immediately detected by the ar driver, and messages >> started coming in, like > > is there actually any difference in ar and gmirror/gstripe except that > ar is simpler, takes only whole drives and use "hardware RAID ;)" > compatible headers ? > >> make the disks forget about their previous RAID-life: >> >> atacontrol delete ar0 >> >> Have a look at man atacontrol. I have not tried it, but it is >> probably worth a try. > > I've used gmirror on several occasions, and it works well for me. I have never used ar, but as I understand this is limited to ata disks (hence ar=atapi raid). The geom framework probably provides a lot more features and is not limited the way ar is. I would not mind using ar in this particular system, but I moved disks one by one, erasing the first one (ar was still complaining about the other one missing after I erased it) and when I later added the second one, I got a kernel panic. Mind you, the ar "signature" or whatever was written in a windows system and may not have been exactly compatible. I removed ar from the kernel and continued with my usual gmirror stuff (which works flawlessly) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 15:27:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7B11065679 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-113.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-113.bluehost.com [69.89.24.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E0CFC8FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 31151 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jun 2008 15:27:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2008 15:27:04 -0000 Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K65kW-0002dN-Jr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:27:04 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:22:40 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:22:40 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20080610152240.GB66787@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} DomainKey-Status: no signature Subject: firewall high-load performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:27:07 -0000 --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My preferred firewall these days, for general use, is pf. I seem to recall someone who has used it in high-load scenarios that it can kinda choke at high loads, though I don't recall whether that was due to pf itself or the fact he was running it on OpenBSD. Until now, this has not been a concern for me. I may be getting involved in a commercial project in the near future that could very well involve handling very large numbers of connections dealing with potentially high bandwidth demands, however. The circumstances would require some QOS, and I'm thinking of using pf/ALTQ for this project, but I don't want to discover after we're well underway that large numbers of connections would cause problems. Should I consider ipfw or ipfilter instead, or are my concerns with relation to pf's ability to handle extremely high loads of legitimate traffic unfounded? --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] H. L. Mencken: "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard." --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhOnEAACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW9lACg82CuQXZNSpGZQPXLAzR/l2N3 ZRIAn3Wq+jTIxP1Gz0hSlHYA1seOpfmM =j00r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 15:29:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBA71065679 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:29:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 418CE8FC13 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:29:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 37322 invoked by uid 89); 10 Jun 2008 15:30:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 10 Jun 2008 15:30:16 -0000 Message-ID: <484E9E65.4070101@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:31:49 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20080610171600.R76827@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080610171600.R76827@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:29:46 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > i'm getting lots of things like this in logs: > > Jun 10 17:13:50 wojtek named[909]: client > 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:241#60282: query (cache) > 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/MX/IN' denied Post: # ifconfig -a # netstat -na | grep 53 Looks like named may be listening publicly on IPv6, but then refusing the requests. Is dns.tensor.gdynia.pl the same box as wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl? Did you make any addressing changes around the time you started noticing this? Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 15:32:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FD31065680 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:32:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thoellri@adobe.com) Received: from exprod6og113.obsmtp.com (exprod6og113.obsmtp.com [64.18.1.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA178FC1E for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thoellri@adobe.com) Received: from source ([192.150.8.22]) by exprod6ob113.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:32:38 PDT Received: from inner-relay-3.eur.adobe.com (inner-relay-3b [10.128.4.236]) by outbound-smtp-2.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id m5AFWaE0009121; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe2.corp.adobe.com (fe2.corp.adobe.com [10.8.192.72]) by inner-relay-3.eur.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m5AFWFqj017203; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from namail2.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.192.64]) by fe2.corp.adobe.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:32:17 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:32:15 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Adding a second disk to increase the space for /var on first dislk : but umount /var failed Thread-Index: AcjK/esrrwTxMggDSoCu5+3sQtWusgABh0Rw References: <20080609205426.N23640@awww.jeah.net><9145C6E6-4C2F-4DA3-B953-4A91DC4C476B@goldmark.org><484E32C9.5060709@otenet.gr> From: "Tobias Hoellrich" To: "dhaneshk k" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2008 15:32:17.0965 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A9895D0:01C8CB0F] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Adding a second disk to increase the space for /var on first dislk : but umount /var failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:32:42 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of dhaneshk k > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:15 AM > To: questions@freebsd.org > Cc: Manolis Kiagias > Subject: Adding a second disk to increase the space for /var=20 > on first dislk : but umount /var failed >=20 > I am able to umount /mnt but not /var=20 >=20 > [root@storm ~]# umount /var/ > umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy > [root@storm ~]# umount /mnt/ > [root@storm ~]# umount /var/ > umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy > [root@storm ~]# df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad7s1a 496M 329M 127M 72% / > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > /dev/ad7s1e 496M 5.4M 451M 1% /tmp > /dev/ad7s1f 44G 38G 2.9G 93% /usr > /dev/ad7s1d 1.4G 221M 1.1G 16% /var > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /var/named/dev > [root@storm ~]# umount /dev/ad7s1 > ad7s1 ad7s1a ad7s1b ad7s1c ad7s1d ad7s1e ad7s1f =20 > [root@storm ~]# umount /dev/ad7s1d=20 > umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy > [root@storm ~]# umouny /var/=20 > bash: umouny: command not found > [root@storm ~]# umouny /var=20 > bash: umouny: command not found > [root@storm ~]# umount /var > umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy > [root@storm ~]# pwd > /root > [root@storm ~]# umount /var > umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy > [root@storm ~]#=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > getting an error Error=20 > org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PermissionDeniedByPolicy. >=20 > Details hal-storage-fixed -mount refused uid 0 How=20 > to fix this and umount /var > =20 >=20 > Any hints most welcome :=20 Did you switch to single user-mode (shutdown now) before trying to umount /var? If you did, there may be some other process still using files/dirs in "/var". If you have lsof installed (/usr/ports/sysutils/lsof), you can identify (as root) which process still using stuff in /var: santafe# lsof +D /var/ COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME dhclient 321 _dhcp cwd VDIR 0,100 512 14578696 /var/empty dhclient 321 _dhcp rtd VDIR 0,100 512 14578696 /var/empty dhclient 321 _dhcp jld VDIR 0,100 512 14578696 /var/empty dhclient 321 _dhcp 6w VREG 0,100 1007 14582324 /var/db/dhclient.leases.msk0 devd 537 root 4u unix 0xc6a78188 0t0 /var/run/devd.pipe devd 537 root 5w VREG 0,100 3 14580313 /var/run/devd.pid syslogd 603 root 3w VREG 0,100 3 14580315 /var/run/syslog.pid syslogd 603 root 4u unix 0xc6a84310 0t0 /var/run/log syslogd 603 root 5u unix 0xc6a84188 0t0 /var/run/logpriv ... Stop the processes (dhclient, devd, syslogd, etc.) that still use /var and then try to umount it again. Hope this helps - Tobias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 15:38:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4206C106564A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:38:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083A68FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:38:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-0000135c00000330-29-484ea03340db Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:39:31 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:37:48 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Problems opening mail on this list Thread-Index: AcjLD+/lkQEPbkYYRC67JDL4By8YWw== From: "Bob McConnell" To: X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:38:46 -0000 I have gotten several messages on this list from an Andrew Barry which Lookout cannot open. The error message is "Can't open this item. Your Digital ID name can not be found by the underlying security system." Can anyone tell me what is causing this? Thank you, Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 15:41:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D316106564A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberto.nunnari@supsi.ch) Received: from ti-edu.ch (posta.ti-edu.ch [195.176.176.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176F28FC17 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberto.nunnari@supsi.ch) Received: from [193.5.152.27] (HELO [127.0.0.1]) by ti-edu.ch (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTP id 26571728 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:41:31 +0200 Message-ID: <484EA0D3.5060004@supsi.ch> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:42:11 +0200 From: Roberto Nunnari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: how to check status of ida disks? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:41:34 -0000 Hello. I'm running FreeBSD 6.1 on an old compac server. The server has a SCSI controller (if I'm not wrong is the Compaq SMART 3200 Controller) that at times I'd like to check if the status is still ok or somehow degraded. The OS is accessing it using the ida driver. Do anybody know how to achive it? Thank you in advance. -- Robi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 15:50:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1FE1065672 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:50:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from galileo.cs.uoguelph.ca (galileo.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.94.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B768FC16 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:50:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from robin.cs.uoguelph.ca (robin.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.93.49]) by galileo.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5AFo2SF026093; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:50:02 -0400 Received: from blizzard.lan (p201xjl1ll.dsl2.sentex.ca [64.7.159.203]) (authenticated bits=0) by robin.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m5AFnveQ023462 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:49:57 -0400 Message-Id: From: Andrew Berry To: "Bob McConnell" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:49:58 -0400 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) X-Spam-Scanner: SpamAssassin 3.002003 (http://www.spamassassin.org/) on galileo X-Spam-Score: hits=1.0 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Tests: SPF_SOFTFAIL X-Spam-Status: Suspected X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 131.104.94.215 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 172.17.94.86 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:50:05 -0000 On 10-Jun-08, at 11:37 AM, Bob McConnell wrote: > I have gotten several messages on this list from an Andrew Barry which > Lookout cannot open. The error message is "Can't open this item. Your > Digital ID name can not be found by the underlying security system." > Can > anyone tell me what is causing this? I typically sign my messages with S/Mime: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/MIME It means that not only can my message be verified by nearly every client, but messages can be easily encrypted to me as well (since the public key is included in the signature). Usually this works fine with Mailman and other mailing lists; the worst I've seen is that Sourceforge will mangle the text adding their advertisement, invalidating the signature. Other software tends to add footers as a separate MIME part. Looking in the source of one of my previous messages, I see that the following header is set, but that the corresponding signature attachment has been stripped: Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-117-728128490; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Perhaps your mail client is picking up on this header and misinterpreting it? What mail client are you using? --Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 15:51:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412461065679 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0159F8FC1C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 7676994; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:51:48 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 7676991; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:51:30 -0400 Message-ID: <484EA302.4070104@radel.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:51:30 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20080610171600.R76827@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080610171600.R76827@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms060701090906090309080407" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:51:49 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms060701090906090309080407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wojciech Puchar wrote: > Jun 10 17:14:32 wojtek named[909]: client > 2001:4830:167d:5237::3:1#59882: query (cache) > 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied > Jun 10 17:14:32 wojtek named[909]: client > 2001:4830:167d:5237::3:1#59882: query (cache) > 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/ANY/IN' denied > > > > my computer is NOT set up as DNS server for any domain. > > why they are asking? Because your computer is reachable on either dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1 or dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10732 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:1::2 and that pesky set of parent zone DNS servers insists on handing those addresses out in NS records? Aha, found the matching log entries on my side: Jun 10 15:14:33 billow named[581]: client 192.168.43.18#45589: query: wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl IN AAAA + Jun 10 15:14:33 billow named[581]: client 192.168.43.19#1873: query: wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl IN ANY + Jun 10 15:14:34 billow named[581]: unexpected RCODE (REFUSED) resolving 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN': 2001:4070:101:2::1#53 Jun 10 15:14:34 billow named[581]: unexpected RCODE (REFUSED) resolving 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/ANY/IN': 2001:4070:101:2::1#53 Hmmm...different IP address. Hmmm..... Hey, what about you look at what bilbo.nask.org.pl. is returning when asked for your nameservers: ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN NS dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN NS dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN NS dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN A 213.192.74.1 dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1 dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN A 83.18.148.142 dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1 dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN A 83.12.228.78 dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:2::1 Inconsistent from some of your other parents. 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owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 15:53:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642201065675 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from camiloreyes82@yahoo.com) Received: from web63909.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web63909.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.97.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04CD88FC1D for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:53:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from camiloreyes82@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 77525 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2008 15:53:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Yckk8fvIw5sJKoon41n2VzttW8Y97ye9rs5TPoKi3uI8tZ+yLAESp/+S2/FoN5ZeXxLjVrC0N0HHEInqz8nlEQteINqbsdUk3U0oggd+pK0FKbHdaS9FrSVZEXGGufiADlMX57dCkO7SJWbZUOg2O5B34FwWlpQtS900Lx8aL+s=; Received: from [146.23.68.23] by web63909.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:53:03 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:53:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Camilo Reyes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <171569.77462.qm@web63909.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Subject: Java Dilemma X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: camiloreyes82@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:53:05 -0000 I am running a FreeBSD 7.0 system and I'm having the hardest time trying to get java to work (I'm sure this has been brought up before - but a google search did not reveal anything). My problem is that I can't find the JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.0 that it mentions on the build (/usr/ports/java/diablo-jre15). I've looked on the Java Sun website, and they don't have the correct version, it seems they have a newer one. Would this still work?? Thanks, Camilo "Bono Vince Malum" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 15:57:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06C7106564A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:57:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WY=b076fa3a@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4F68FC15 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:57:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WY=b076fa3a@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71886163F5A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F4523E49C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:49:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:49:55 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080610164955.65127852@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:57:29 -0000 On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:37:48 -0400 "Bob McConnell" wrote: > I have gotten several messages on this list from an Andrew Barry which > Lookout cannot open. I don't see any posts with that name in this list. Could they be spam? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 16:00:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA621065677 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WY=b076fa3a@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB38A8FC1F for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:00:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WY=b076fa3a@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468BB163F66 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:45:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E3523E49C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:44:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:44:56 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080610164456.6a7e2f15@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: portmaster argument question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:00:29 -0000 On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:56:34 -0400 "Tsu-Fan Cheng" wrote: > Hi, > just noticed that I need to update a whole bunch of ports due to > gettext issue, I am used to portmaster and henceforth exec portmaster > -uBdr gettext\* -x avifile to server this need. however, the update is > interrupted and needed to restart, I noticed an option (-R) to allow > skipping ports already up to date. AFAIK all the ports that depend on gettext were version-bumped, so it's not essential to force the upgrade. In other words you can just update those ports that are still out-of-date -just like any other update. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 16:01:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC2610656A9 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:01:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43AB8FC2B for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5AG1Epf045295; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:01:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.5.5 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m5AG1Epf045295 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1213113676; bh=LbieTZQMkHEAzh T9HBn4zy2dCH/M1e8ZCYRFZCjurgo=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<484EA545.8090305@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Tue,=2 010=20Jun=202008=2017:01:09=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080607)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Erik=20Trulsson=20|CC:=20DA=20Fors yth=20,=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subje ct:=20Re:=20xRAID=20disks....|References:=20<484EACEB.7169.43FE1258 @iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za>=20<20080610145926.GA66984@owl.midgard.homeip .net>|In-Reply-To:=20<20080610145926.GA66984@owl.midgard.homeip.net >|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B= 20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signat ure"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig2F5E6D9DD44A75508FE0B68 8"; b=a/4TctgI5p/kCDAHhY/BKS8OQr/haaUryF5Y4t7WCtBlDesZfIg5xZcve6PMX Kp1tFV2cmznHihj0SclamvlQqWVDoTVXGJPCWLY9qewtZnQ9pXUpdsvaofBnuGRK5Z/ 9mHh726D47fxl6IYsnbpZlkRNamAc2DQGdTXzQFzr8U= Message-ID: <484EA545.8090305@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:01:09 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Trulsson References: <484EACEB.7169.43FE1258@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> <20080610145926.GA66984@owl.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20080610145926.GA66984@owl.midgard.homeip.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2F5E6D9DD44A75508FE0B688" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:01:16 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93, clamav-milter version 0.93 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, DA Forsyth Subject: Re: xRAID disks.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:01:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2F5E6D9DD44A75508FE0B688 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:33:47PM +0200, DA Forsyth wrote: >> Hiya >> >> I've had this for a while now and have done many searches for info=20 >> but have not yet come up with the right question, hence have not got=20 >> the answer. >> >> My main server has an Adaptec IDE raid card. A couple of years ago I = >> took disks that had been a mirror pair on that card out of the server = >> and put them into my test server, not as a raid pair since the test=20 >> server has no raid hardware. >> >> During boot I see this >> ad0: 19092MB at ata0-master UDMA66 >> ad1: 76319MB at ata0-slave UDMA66 >> ad2: 76319MB at ata1-master UDMA66 >> ad3: 19092MB at ata1-slave UDMA66 >> ar0: 76319MB status: BROKEN >> ar0: disk0 DOWN no device found for this subdisk >> ar0: disk1 DOWN no device found for this subdisk >> >> The pair of ex-RAID disks are ad1 and ad2 and obviously are no longer = >> a raid pair, yet 'something' is telling the ar() driver to try and=20 >> pair them and failing because there is no raid hardware in that box. >> >> Now I am reconfiguring that machine a bit and would like to fix this, = >> both on these existing drives and on the 320MB drive I have just=20 >> removed from a RAID1 pair and will be putting into the box instead of = >> ad3 (the other 320GB from the pair is in a USB enclosure for other=20 >> purposes and has not shown any signs of knowing it was in a raid=20 >> pair) >> >> I suspect the raidinfo is stored on the disk somewhere and a suitable = >> 'dd' command can erase it. but where and how? >=20 > That kind of information is usually stored last on the disk (where it i= s > least likely to be overwritten by filesystems, partitioning info, or bo= ot > loaders), so if you overwrite the last couple of KBs on those disks you= will > probably be fine. > (If you want to be certain you can always use 'dd' to nuke all the > information on the disk. That will take longer time, but you get the e= xtra > advantage of testing all the blocks on the disk so that they work > correctly.) >=20 > For the first you could do something like: > dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/ad1 bs=3D1m skip=3D76318 > which should overwrite the last MB of ad1 with zeros. >=20 > To erase all of the disk: > dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/ad1 bs=3D1m It's rather easier and quite a lot less risky to simply do: # atacontrol delete ar0 Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig2F5E6D9DD44A75508FE0B688 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkhOpUoACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwOrgCeKqFF6s+kzxbB7P647qtZTLRX gu0An2Vpf73o214FzVEW+FHELYskIJqj =0DM7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2F5E6D9DD44A75508FE0B688-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 16:03:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8791065681 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:03:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650DF8FC1F for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4367213.home.otenet.gr [79.130.19.93]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m5AG3aPt024806; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:03:36 +0300 Message-ID: <484EA5D8.90107@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:03:36 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: camiloreyes82@yahoo.com References: <171569.77462.qm@web63909.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <171569.77462.qm@web63909.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java Dilemma X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:03:39 -0000 Camilo Reyes wrote: > I am running a FreeBSD 7.0 system and I'm having the hardest time trying > to get java to work (I'm sure this has been brought up before - but a > google search did not reveal anything). My problem is that I can't find > the JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.0 that it mentions on the > build (/usr/ports/java/diablo-jre15). I've looked on the Java Sun website, > and they don't have the correct version, it seems they have a newer one. > Would this still work?? > > Thanks, > > Camilo > "Bono Vince Malum" > > > I've installed the diablo-jre15 port two days ago (on the 8th). I downloaded this: tzupdater-1_3_5-2008b.zip And the version of the port is: diablo-jre-1.5.0.07.01_10 Have you used csup/portsnap to update your ports tree? You might be trying to compile an older version. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 16:20:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB681065676 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:20:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F408E8FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5AGK4A5046112 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:20:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.5.5 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m5AGK4A5046112 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1213114805; bh=MrzgnbaQPqPQck 2Ov5oHyCVnziOKUG3yqp6ZWAkHy20=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<484EA9AE.2010407@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Tue,=2 010=20Jun=202008=2017:19:58=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080607)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20FreeBSD=20Questions=20|Subj ect:=20Re:=20firewall=20high-load=20performance|References:=20<2008 0610152240.GB66787@kokopelli.hydra>|In-Reply-To:=20<20080610152240. GB66787@kokopelli.hydra>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type: =20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D "application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig 76D3F74FD8E44934FDAC281D"; b=KxCn3RFUYae2noV02Ndj+LqHiN3Z/iHqxykaga xEKt8ed950UJE91fVAdGktODvW5SvstzGHXwzU9rtNt2o30rNjnpxea0cYA3FmXf52J Pz7lRF0Y6T6lVw1khYil4zIiFWcthoaSIqcsMIxtzoG1ILo03qURxYRE6K0jb9AX+U= Message-ID: <484EA9AE.2010407@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:19:58 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20080610152240.GB66787@kokopelli.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20080610152240.GB66787@kokopelli.hydra> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig76D3F74FD8E44934FDAC281D" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:20:05 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93, clamav-milter version 0.93 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: firewall high-load performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:20:14 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig76D3F74FD8E44934FDAC281D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chad Perrin wrote: > My preferred firewall these days, for general use, is pf. I seem to > recall someone who has used it in high-load scenarios that it can kinda= > choke at high loads, though I don't recall whether that was due to pf > itself or the fact he was running it on OpenBSD. Until now, this has n= ot > been a concern for me. >=20 > I may be getting involved in a commercial project in the near future th= at > could very well involve handling very large numbers of connections > dealing with potentially high bandwidth demands, however. The > circumstances would require some QOS, and I'm thinking of using pf/ALTQ= > for this project, but I don't want to discover after we're well underwa= y > that large numbers of connections would cause problems. Should I > consider ipfw or ipfilter instead, or are my concerns with relation to > pf's ability to handle extremely high loads of legitimate traffic > unfounded? >=20 pf will perform very well. I don't know if anyone has benchmarked it against ipfw, but I suspect that any difference in performance is pretty minimal. If you're just doing packet filtering and using a fairly run of= the mill modern machine, you should be able to keep up with Gb wire speed= without problems. If performance is a limiting factor, then review your rule sets carefully= : arranging things so that the most popular traffic types are handled as=20 early as possible, knowing when to use tables vs. use address-list macros= =20 and judicious use of quick rules can make quite a difference. Also, /stateful/ rules are generally faster than stateless once you've go= t beyond the initial packet that establishes the state. Looking stuff up in the state table is quicker and takes place earlier in the processing=20 sequence than traversing the rulesets. High load may or may not be a problem depending on your traffic patterns.= I've seen pf firewalls suffer by running out of state-table space in situations where there are a lot of fairly short-lived but low volume network connections. The default is 10,000 states. If your firewall=20 machine is dedicated to running pf and it has hundreds of MB if not GB o= f=20 RAM, then upping the size of some of those parameters by an order of=20 magnitude is feasible, and works well. On the whole I'd go with pf every time simply based on how much more manageable it is compared to ipfw -- you have to try, hard, to lock yourself out when reloading a new pf ruleset. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig76D3F74FD8E44934FDAC281D Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkhOqbQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzPCACePEfyjY41uvNPaPHzkVMFevjd 6dAAnjC9WD+jvwUS8zLMLtV7pbMZlZM1 =du7a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig76D3F74FD8E44934FDAC281D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 16:21:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5C01065671 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:21:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=040081bc4@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454728FC1C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:21:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=040081bc4@tx.rr.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,618,1204524000"; d="scan'208";a="1304174" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2008 10:52:41 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EEDB623DEA; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:52:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:52:40 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: Bob McConnell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <01D2CBEB172529C12E1294D1@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:21:34 -0000 --On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:37:48 -0400 Bob McConnell wrote: > I have gotten several messages on this list from an Andrew Barry which > Lookout cannot open. The error message is "Can't open this item. Your > Digital ID name can not be found by the underlying security system." Can > anyone tell me what is causing this? > Apparently Outlook thinks the message is encrypted, and it can't find your private key to decrypt it. Considering the tons of problems we have with encryption here, I'm not surprised. -- Paul Schmehl As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 16:49:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383551065676 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:49:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberto.nunnari@supsi.ch) Received: from ti-edu.ch (posta.ti-edu.ch [195.176.176.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EC38FC24 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberto.nunnari@supsi.ch) X-Virus-Scanned: by cgpav Received: from [193.5.152.27] (HELO [127.0.0.1]) by ti-edu.ch (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTP id 26572747 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:48:57 +0200 Message-ID: <484EB0A0.6080604@supsi.ch> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:49:36 +0200 From: Roberto Nunnari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484EA0D3.5060004@supsi.ch> In-Reply-To: <484EA0D3.5060004@supsi.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: how to check status of ida disks? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:49:00 -0000 Sorry.. I meant *RAID* SCSI controller.. and the raid I'd like to check is RAID 1. -- Robi Roberto Nunnari wrote: > Hello. > > I'm running FreeBSD 6.1 on an old compac server. > > The server has a SCSI controller (if I'm not wrong is > the Compaq SMART 3200 Controller) that at times I'd like > to check if the status is still ok or somehow degraded. > > The OS is accessing it using the ida driver. > > Do anybody know how to achive it? > > Thank you in advance. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 17:01:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42AC5106566C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D178FC1A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-0000133800000330-1c-484eb3840305 Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:01:56 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:00:13 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Problems opening mail on this list Thread-Index: AcjLEY+UVQ21hjoHREaHi3Cu1SRK2QACPFWA References: From: "Bob McConnell" To: "Andrew Berry" X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:01:11 -0000 Andrew, I have Outlook/Office 2003 SP3 with an Exchange server. Unfortunately, that means I do not have access to the raw messages, nor can I look at the full set of footers. Someone suggested your signature may be getting mangled by the listserve. Another reply said they have never seen any of your messages, so their SPAM filter appears to be blocking you. Bob McConnell -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Berry [mailto:andrewberry@sentex.net]=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:50 AM To: Bob McConnell Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems opening mail on this list On 10-Jun-08, at 11:37 AM, Bob McConnell wrote: > I have gotten several messages on this list from an Andrew Barry which > Lookout cannot open. The error message is "Can't open this item. Your > Digital ID name can not be found by the underlying security system." =20 > Can > anyone tell me what is causing this? I typically sign my messages with S/Mime: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/MIME It means that not only can my message be verified by nearly every =20 client, but messages can be easily encrypted to me as well (since the =20 public key is included in the signature). Usually this works fine with =20 Mailman and other mailing lists; the worst I've seen is that =20 Sourceforge will mangle the text adding their advertisement, =20 invalidating the signature. Other software tends to add footers as a =20 separate MIME part. Looking in the source of one of my previous messages, I see that the =20 following header is set, but that the corresponding signature =20 attachment has been stripped: Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=3DApple-Mail-117-728128490; =20 micalg=3Dsha1; protocol=3D"application/pkcs7-signature" Perhaps your mail client is picking up on this header and =20 misinterpreting it? What mail client are you using? --Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 17:07:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B09E106564A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:07:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=040081bc4@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D988FC23 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:07:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=040081bc4@tx.rr.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,618,1204524000"; d="scan'208";a="1318105" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2008 12:07:54 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 37FE123DDF for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:07:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:07:54 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <8DFCF30B986212E9F5E6DE8E@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: RE: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:07:55 -0000 --On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 13:00:13 -0400 Bob McConnell wrote: > Andrew, > > I have Outlook/Office 2003 SP3 with an Exchange server. Unfortunately, > that means I do not have access to the raw messages, nor can I look at > the full set of footers. Someone suggested your signature may be getting > mangled by the listserve. Another reply said they have never seen any of > your messages, so their SPAM filter appears to be blocking you. > The message that Andrew sent in response to you did not have a digital signature on it. I don't know if that means it was stripped by the list software or he didn't sign the message. Andrew, maybe you could send a signed message, state in the body that it was signed, and then I can look at the headers and tell you what's going on. -- Paul Schmehl As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 17:46:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62AA106567A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:46:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from mtumishi.cyberleo.net (mtumishi.cyberleo.net [69.72.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B298FC19 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:46:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from [172.16.44.14] (adsl-75-4-152-133.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net [75.4.152.133]) by mtumishi.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8865B11AB5; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:30:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <484EBA3A.40002@cyberleo.net> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:30:34 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080520) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dfeustel@mindspring.com References: <20080608215728.B8CA58FC19@mx1.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20080608215728.B8CA58FC19@mx1.freebsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Playing back motion jpeg saved by firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:46:19 -0000 dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote: > I just discovered that firefox can save motion video > in addition to displaying it. But I don't know how > to play back the saved video.cgi file. Mplayer > complains about missing configuration data. > > Does anyone know how to play back the file saved > by firefox? In this instance, firefox is simply saving the stream of data from the server, and giving it a name that matches the last path component in the URL (in this case, video.cgi). The format of the file is not likely to be understood by anything other than firefox (at least, as I've found), as it is most likely a multipart/mime-encoded file containing a sequence of images, like from an internet-enabled webcam. Your best bet, if this is the case, is to use a mime parser to extract each of the individual pictures from the file, then use a proper video encoder to glue them together with the appropriate metadata to allow video players to understand them. Mplayer's mencoder can do so, and can even encode to MJPEG, for little to no loss in quality; although you may have issues choosing a proper framerate, as mime-based image streaming isn't always stable. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 17:51:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD2C106564A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:51:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-114.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-114.bluehost.com [69.89.24.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D16B8FC19 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:51:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 3822 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jun 2008 17:51:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2008 17:51:33 -0000 Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K680L-0004KB-2w for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:51:33 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:47:08 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:47:08 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20080610174708.GB75976@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RASg3xLB4tUQ4RcS" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} DomainKey-Status: no signature Subject: viewing vCalendar files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:51:35 -0000 --RASg3xLB4tUQ4RcS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been sent a vCalendar file via email. I use mutt as my mail user agent, and am not terribly interested in switching to mail/claws-mail just so I can read this vCalendar file (generated in MS Outlook). Is there some command line tool that will create a readable text file from this, a Mutt extension that can handle it, or anything along those lines, in Ports? What are my options, besides just deleting all the vCalendar markup cruft by hand (or writing a script to do it for me)? --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Anne McClintock, University of Wisconsin: "The decisions that really matter are made outside the democratic process." --RASg3xLB4tUQ4RcS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhOvhwACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWM3ACeMi5nrC+I4aqb0vHAklYviBhU 3tgAnRmAyBQvX8DvsLZlIa7yg3nMVv5X =JcZF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RASg3xLB4tUQ4RcS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 18:51:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A064106568F for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:51:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.10.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDB08FC15 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:51:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from westmark (westmark.nagual.nl [192.168.11.22]) by nagual.nl (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/yanta) with ESMTP id m5AIpHNl027820; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:51:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:50:28 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080610205028.00007518@westmark> In-Reply-To: <20080610002605.F53038@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608215648.Q9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608230131.00003da7@westmark> <20080609001010.G59013@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608233315.GA33530@dan.emsphone.com> <20080609094333.H27092@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1a5a68400806091158n17397a14k66d85e30ac3e1a46@mail.gmail.com> <20080609232736.X39884@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080610000250.00005874@westmark> <20080610002605.F53038@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: de nagual X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-pc-solaris2.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 192.168.11.35 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:51:06 -0000 On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:29:01 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Because the ZFS checksumming makes the FS selfhealing. Chance for > > selfhealing WHAT?! > > could you please instead of repeating sun marketing text like all > others tell something clearer? Do your own homework, please. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 19:35:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE074106566B for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:35:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841578FC17 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:35:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (ip224.carlyle.sfo.ygnition.net [24.219.144.224]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m5AJZAbS033798 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <484ED76D.2030809@rawbw.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:35:09 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to make flash plugin work in linux-firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:35:13 -0000 I have linux-firefox-2.0.0.14 installed. I also downloaded install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz from Adobe site, unpacked and placed libflashplayer.so into: /usr/local/lib/linux-firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so But firefox (/usr/local/bin/linux-firefox) doesn't pick it up and flash sites don't work. How to make Flash plugin work? I recall on Linux it's enough to just drop libflashplayer.so into plugins directory somewhere under lib and it works. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 19:36:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FBB1065677 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from letter2steve@yahoo.com) Received: from web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67FC58FC17 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from letter2steve@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 57679 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2008 19:36:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=HQQ/9kdnhl5yja1n9V8YjxVu+IE7xrLKyLhRKM8AyelAeye9zmixAsHFAWgkdBlETtdcVQd8ISWkBYCDEfRLfe32BfB/Ccdu0vmU07I9Xb9l+12Uapvk3Pk2WJV2xhwPskXw4Aw4galpc61DMU76MzHZzZTx8nqwkx+d3eo1uvY=; Received: from [199.243.104.196] by web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:36:20 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Quinn To: Andrew Berry , =?utf-8?B?TmVqYyDFoGtvYmVybmU=?= In-Reply-To: <484E26FD.4080605@skoberne.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <464288.57641.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Openvpn on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: letter2steve@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:36:21 -0000 --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Nejc =C5=A0koberne wrote: =20 > Actually I don't think you can do the same thing with a > tunnel. You have > to use a different IP addresses for the tunnel itself. Have > you read the > OpenVPN manual? >=20 > > Yes, I did: 'tcpdump -i tun0'. Nothing shows > up on the server, but on=20 > > the client (OS X) I can see the pings being sent. >=20 > This means that there is a problem with the OpenVPN > connection. Can you show > the tail of your logs on both sides? >=20 > > proto tcp >=20 > Why are you using TCP anyway? >=20 > Bye, > Nejc Hi Andrew, Nejc, All I just built my first FreeBSD 7.0 machine to test OpenVPN on it It was a nice way to review/fix my OpenVPN page I forgot to stress how important the sysctl setting is for net.inet.ip.forw= arding The default is disabled (0) and I to could not connect beyond the OpenVPN s= erver=20 I'm editing the page now to include something like this Make sure IP Forwarding is enabled Check it with sysctl -a |grep net.inet.ip.f Set it with sysctl inet.inet.ip.forwarding=3D1 or Alternatively set it by adding this to /etc/sysctl.conf net.inet.ip.forwarding=3D1 I hope this helps Take care Steve=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 19:37:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20ECA1065671 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1648FC1F for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:60621 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K69f5-0003Pf-4j for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:37:43 +0200 Received: (qmail 78118 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2008 21:37:42 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2008 21:37:42 +0200 Received: (qmail 68366 invoked by uid 1001); 10 Jun 2008 21:37:42 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:37:42 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080610193742.GA68256@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <484EACEB.7169.43FE1258@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> <20080610165435.M68290@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080610150536.GA67056@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20080610171129.K75322@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080610171129.K75322@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1K69f5-0003Pf-4j. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1K69f5-0003Pf-4j 12c942c1021e2d60028976b022ba9fdf Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, DA Forsyth Subject: Re: xRAID disks.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:37:46 -0000 On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 05:13:31PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > x> hardware support. > > > >> actually there is not much need to have it for RAID-0/1/10 where there is > >> almostnothing to process. > > > > For mirrors it can actually be a big win with hardware support. > > If you use software RAID then you will have to perform each write twice > > (once to each disk), > in parallel > > while with hardware support for RAID you only need > > to transfer the data once. > > which saves at most 100MB/s bandwidth - compare this to 5-10GB/s in modern > machines. You do not normally have that much bandwidth even in a modern machine. Typical bandwidth for the northbridge/southbridge connection is 1-2 GB/s for most machines sold today. (For example just about all machines with a recent Intel desktop chipset. The connection between north- and south-bridge on those is equivalent to a PCI-E x4 connection (which provides 1GB/s in each direction.)) And that is for modern machines. Older ones have even less bandwidth available. > > If the controller resides on a PCI-bus together > > with several other devices (which is not uncommon) then the reduced > > bandwidth usage can be very useful. > > true. but not if it's builtin in chipset or on PCI express. PCI-E controller cards are still fairly uncommon, and many of them require a x4 or x8 slot, while most motherboards only have x1 slots (apart from the x16 slot intended for a graphics card.) (And PCI-express is still fairly new, so there are lots of computers in use that do not have any PCI-E slots at all.) If you go back just a few years you will find that chipset itself provides only two IDE-channels and nothing more. Any other devices reside on a single PCI-bus (which provides a total bandwidth of 133MB/s.) > > > there are really not worth price. unless you need RAID-5. > > but with todays disk prices it's better to just use RAID-1+0 and bigger > drives. That depends on what your goals are, and what constraints you operate under. RAID 10 is nice, but it requires more disks then RAID5. Extra disks create extra noise and require more power and generate more heat and (most importantly) require extra space. There are a limited amount of space available in most computer cases, which might not be able to accomodate the extra disks needed for RAID10. > > with software RAID you are not forced to operate on whole disks. usually > not everything has to be mirrored. If you have reason to use mirroring at all, then I would say that just about everything should be mirrored. (RAID is in no way a substitute for backups. The main reason for using RAID is either performance (which is often better served by several independent disks anyway) or to minimise downtime. If some parts of your disks are not mirrored then you be able to avoid that downtime anyway.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 20:01:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E551065673 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:01:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-130.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-130.bluehost.com [67.222.38.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 47FDF8FC13 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:01:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 19176 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jun 2008 20:01:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2008 20:01:38 -0000 Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K6A2E-0000iJ-0V for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:01:38 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:57:13 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:57:13 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20080610195713.GA78068@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20080610151643.GA66787@kokopelli.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080610151643.GA66787@kokopelli.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} DomainKey-Status: no signature Subject: Re: wireless drops connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:01:41 -0000 --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:16:43AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > I've gone from using CAT5 to 802.11g for my laptop's network connectivity > while I'm at home. Unfortunately, since I've done so, my connection > drops from time to time, and I usually don't notice for a while. The > period between drops does not seem to be constant, however, as I lost my > connection at some point yesterday without noticing, but when I did > notice I reestablished contact, then lost my connection again a few > minutes later. The connection has not dropped again since then, however. Well, it dropped a few more times today -- but I seem to have found a problem (with the help of ##FreeBSD on irc) that is related: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D102760 It seems the mystery has been solved. Now I just have to get the fixed driver. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Albert Camus: "An intellectual is someone whose mind watches itself." --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhO3JkACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWV7QCfWsxSIJDc73lJJc3fpOHYdaXZ KD0AniIUK34iX5JQf5JPCY/CHhZf9Ii5 =BFVw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 20:02:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8AC81065676 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:02:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734588FC1A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:02:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AED15C26; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:05:57 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <484EDDCF.6090401@hdk5.net> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:02:23 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <972994690801011020u60ed0a0et6d8356cdb1f6f974@mail.gmail.com> <20080102141419.GB61289@sandvine.com> <20080521143210.GA70289@rebelion.Sisis.de> <4834516F.1010002@otenet.gr> <20080523092901.GA8878@rebelion.Sisis.de> <483699DE.6080907@otenet.gr> <20080527141644.GA9912@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080530123452.GA9637@rebelion.Sisis.de> <483FF881.5060504@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <483FF881.5060504@otenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Matthias Apitz , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Asus eee (was Re: G4 Quicksilver as Web Server?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:02:24 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Matthias Apitz wrote: >> El día Tuesday, May 27, 2008 a las 04:16:44PM +0200, Matthias Apitz >> escribió: >> >> >>> El día Friday, May 23, 2008 a las 01:18:06PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias >>> escribió: >>> >>> >>>> Yes, I am already planning to upgrade :) >>>> At this time, it is not available in Greece (though I have spotted a >>>> few on ebay). >>>> Even more important than the 20Gb SSD is the 9 inch display with a >>>> resolution of 1024x600. >>>> 800x480 is really small for anything more other than taking notes. >>>> >>>> >> >> Maybe you know this page, Manolis: >> >> http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/05/04/eeeusercom-eeepc-900-in-depth-review/ >> >> it has a detailed technical report about all items of which the 900 20GB >> model is made of; >> > > Ah, nice! Thanks for the link. It will be a good read. >> a dealer in CH will get next week the original US version: >> http://www.stegcomputer.ch/details.asp?prodid=asu-e900-w >> > > There are a few sold on ebay. I believe this model will also appear in > Greek eshops soon. >> take care, there is an issue about the battery having only 4400 mAh >> (because of some fire in an ASUS supplier) while the original model have >> had a 5800 mAh battery; >> >> matthias >> > > I will wait then. I prefer to get a model with a larger battery. The one > I have now, lasts more or less 2 - 2.30 hours and I believe it has the > same 4400mAh battery. The larger screen and SSD will probably make this > even less on the 900. Unlike larger laptops, I really like to work the > eee on battery only. In fact having to carry only this small laptop > instead of all the usual accessories is a big plus to me. > > On a side note, I am thinking of writing a complete article about > installing FreeBSD 7.0 on the eeepc, including customizations and > optimizations, different installations methods, with links to download > ready-built customized kernels etc. Don't know whether it will have any > real audience though ;) Most people run some Linux distro on it or even > (gasp) Windows... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Aloha, I would be interested in a how to for FreeBSD on the Asus eee -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 20:11:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102F51065672 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 872FC8FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4367213.home.otenet.gr [79.130.19.93]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m5AKBE46019276; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:11:14 +0300 Message-ID: <484EDFE2.2040508@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:11:14 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Al Plant References: <972994690801011020u60ed0a0et6d8356cdb1f6f974@mail.gmail.com> <20080102141419.GB61289@sandvine.com> <20080521143210.GA70289@rebelion.Sisis.de> <4834516F.1010002@otenet.gr> <20080523092901.GA8878@rebelion.Sisis.de> <483699DE.6080907@otenet.gr> <20080527141644.GA9912@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20080530123452.GA9637@rebelion.Sisis.de> <483FF881.5060504@otenet.gr> <484EDDCF.6090401@hdk5.net> In-Reply-To: <484EDDCF.6090401@hdk5.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Asus eee (was Re: G4 Quicksilver as Web Server?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:11:17 -0000 Al Plant wrote: > Manolis Kiagias wrote: >> Matthias Apitz wrote: >>> El día Tuesday, May 27, 2008 a las 04:16:44PM +0200, Matthias Apitz >>> escribió: >>> >>> >>>> El día Friday, May 23, 2008 a las 01:18:06PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias >>>> escribió: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Yes, I am already planning to upgrade :) >>>>> At this time, it is not available in Greece (though I have spotted >>>>> a few on ebay). >>>>> Even more important than the 20Gb SSD is the 9 inch display with a >>>>> resolution of 1024x600. >>>>> 800x480 is really small for anything more other than taking notes. >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> Maybe you know this page, Manolis: >>> >>> http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/05/04/eeeusercom-eeepc-900-in-depth-review/ >>> >>> it has a detailed technical report about all items of which the 900 >>> 20GB >>> model is made of; >>> >> >> Ah, nice! Thanks for the link. It will be a good read. >>> a dealer in CH will get next week the original US version: >>> http://www.stegcomputer.ch/details.asp?prodid=asu-e900-w >>> >> >> There are a few sold on ebay. I believe this model will also appear >> in Greek eshops soon. >>> take care, there is an issue about the battery having only 4400 mAh >>> (because of some fire in an ASUS supplier) while the original model >>> have >>> had a 5800 mAh battery; >>> >>> matthias >>> >> >> I will wait then. I prefer to get a model with a larger battery. The >> one I have now, lasts more or less 2 - 2.30 hours and I believe it >> has the same 4400mAh battery. The larger screen and SSD will >> probably make this even less on the 900. Unlike larger laptops, I >> really like to work the eee on battery only. In fact having to carry >> only this small laptop instead of all the usual accessories is a big >> plus to me. >> >> On a side note, I am thinking of writing a complete article about >> installing FreeBSD 7.0 on the eeepc, including customizations and >> optimizations, different installations methods, with links to >> download ready-built customized kernels etc. Don't know whether it >> will have any real audience though ;) Most people run some Linux >> distro on it or even (gasp) Windows... >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > Aloha, > > > I would be interested in a how to for FreeBSD on the Asus eee > OK, I am already set to write this. My time is kind of limited until the end of June, but I'll try to start on this ASAP. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 20:21:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95381065682 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:21:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca (ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.94.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737E48FC21 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:21:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from batman.cs.uoguelph.ca (batman.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.93.48]) by ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5AKLvOr014550 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:21:58 -0400 Received: from wblizzard.lan (p201xjl1ll.dsl2.sentex.ca [64.7.159.203]) (authenticated bits=0) by batman.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m5AKLKkb025639 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:21:40 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200806102021.m5AKLKkb025639@batman.cs.uoguelph.ca> Resent-To: FreeBSD Questions From: Andrew Berry To: Paul Schmehl In-Reply-To: <8DFCF30B986212E9F5E6DE8E@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Resent-From: Andrew Berry References: <8DFCF30B986212E9F5E6DE8E@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Message-Id: <80301E14-F80C-4707-B754-5D0986989DA9@sentex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:21:57 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:21:36 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) X-Spam-Scanner: SpamAssassin 3.000004 (http://www.spamassassin.org/) on batman.cs.uoguelph.ca X-Spam-Score: hits=0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Tests: FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Status: Suspected X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 131.104.94.206 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 172.17.94.85 Cc: Subject: Re: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:21:59 -0000 On 10-Jun-08, at 1:07 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > The message that Andrew sent in response to you did not have a > digital signature on it. I don't know if that means it was stripped > by the list software or he didn't sign the message. I disabled signing when sending that message, just so my response could be read. I'll send a message in a second with signing enabled. I've never noticed anyone having problems with digital signatures in other mailing lists I'm on, but it's possible that no one has bothered to say anything. --Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 20:22:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63201065763 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from aeryn.cs.uoguelph.ca (aeryn.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.20.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3FA8FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:22:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from batman.cs.uoguelph.ca (batman.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.93.48]) by aeryn.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5AKMq0o023681; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:22:52 -0400 Received: from wblizzard.lan (p201xjl1ll.dsl2.sentex.ca [64.7.159.203]) (authenticated bits=0) by batman.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m5AKLKkc025639 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:22:34 -0400 Message-Id: <4DE3D88D-9D42-4FEA-9330-4A3D27DF8B6A@sentex.net> From: Andrew Berry To: RW In-Reply-To: <20080610164955.65127852@gumby.homeunix.com.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:22:51 -0400 References: <20080610164955.65127852@gumby.homeunix.com.> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) X-Spam-Scanner: SpamAssassin 3.000004 (http://www.spamassassin.org/) on batman.cs.uoguelph.ca X-Spam-Score: hits=0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Tests: FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Status: Suspected X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 131.104.20.161 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 172.17.94.85 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:22:57 -0000 On 10-Jun-08, at 11:49 AM, RW wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:37:48 -0400 > "Bob McConnell" wrote: > >> I have gotten several messages on this list from an Andrew Barry >> which >> Lookout cannot open. > > I don't see any posts with that name in this list. Could they be spam? Typo on my last name :) --Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 20:23:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63364106566B for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from moe.cs.uoguelph.ca (moe.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.94.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181A68FC30 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from batman.cs.uoguelph.ca (batman.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.93.48]) by moe.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5AKNXfG012679; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:23:33 -0400 Received: from wblizzard.lan (p201xjl1ll.dsl2.sentex.ca [64.7.159.203]) (authenticated bits=0) by batman.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m5AKLKkd025639 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:23:15 -0400 Message-Id: From: Andrew Berry To: Paul Schmehl In-Reply-To: <8DFCF30B986212E9F5E6DE8E@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-746495031; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:23:32 -0400 References: <8DFCF30B986212E9F5E6DE8E@utd65257.utdallas.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) X-Spam-Scanner: SpamAssassin 3.000004 (http://www.spamassassin.org/) on batman.cs.uoguelph.ca X-Spam-Score: hits=0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Tests: FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Status: Suspected X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 131.104.94.198 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 172.17.94.85 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:23:35 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-746495031 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 10-Jun-08, at 1:07 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > Andrew, maybe you could send a signed message, state in the body > that it was signed, and then I can look at the headers and tell you > what's going on. Here is a message which has been signed. --Andrew --Apple-Mail-1-746495031-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 20:27:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F87E1065674 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from mailhub.cs.uoguelph.ca (mailhub.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.94.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0227A8FC26 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:27:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from batman.cs.uoguelph.ca (batman.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.93.48]) by mailhub.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5AKRmlM006441; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:27:48 -0400 Received: from wblizzard.lan (p201xjl1ll.dsl2.sentex.ca [64.7.159.203]) (authenticated bits=0) by batman.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m5AKRT4c026735 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:27:30 -0400 Message-Id: From: Andrew Berry To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20080610174708.GB75976@kokopelli.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:27:46 -0400 References: <20080610174708.GB75976@kokopelli.hydra> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) X-Spam-Scanner: SpamAssassin 3.000004 (http://www.spamassassin.org/) on batman.cs.uoguelph.ca X-Spam-Score: hits=0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Tests: FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Status: Suspected X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 131.104.94.205 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 172.17.94.85 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: viewing vCalendar files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:27:51 -0000 On 10-Jun-08, at 1:47 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > I've been sent a vCalendar file via email. I use mutt as my mail user > agent, and am not terribly interested in switching to mail/claws-mail > just so I can read this vCalendar file (generated in MS Outlook). > > Is there some command line tool that will create a readable text file > from this, a Mutt extension that can handle it, or anything along > those > lines, in Ports? What are my options, besides just deleting all the > vCalendar markup cruft by hand (or writing a script to do it for me)? If you just need to read it, then open it up in a text editor. vCalendar / iCalendar markup is pretty simple. Virtually any calendaring app should be able to read the file, including Mozilla Sunbird, Evolution, Kontact, and so on. There are also web calendars such as Webcalendar in ports, or you could just use Google Calendar. If the sender is expecting a vCal file back to confirm / deny the appointment, then you'll need to make sure that you send back a valid file. --Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 20:30:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A751B1065685 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from mail13.tpgi.com.au (smtp-out13.tpgi.com.au [220.244.226.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1138FC27 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) X-TPG-Antivirus: Passed Received: from BLACKTHORN.maydias.com (123-243-239-97.static.tpgi.com.au [123.243.239.97]) by mail13.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5AKCdjO026723 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:12:52 +1000 Message-Id: <200806102012.m5AKCdjO026723@mail13.tpg.com.au> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:12:38 +1000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Warren Liddell Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-5ABA39FF Subject: ohci_add_done PANIC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:30:02 -0000 I have seen many posts and articles floating around that deals with this issue, so id like to know how to get around it, without the need to disable legacy support? amt my only work around is disabling legacy support, unplugging ALL USB devices then FreeBSD not only installs without causing a panic as well as runs, but it detects all the USB devices AFTER boot has been done, how ever X dosent seem to want to recognise it. There other issues, however with having to swap from 1 comp to another running from FreeBSD, i have no ability to paste dmesg or anything like that. ports & world are upto date as of 2 days ago .. however i am unable to configure the kernel, so its using factory defaults that came with 6.3-RELEASE a few mnths ago .. issues with that are related to various options not beign able to determine size. I understand a lot of this is vague, but more information can be provided if needs be. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1494 - Release Date: 10/06/2008 7:22 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 20:35:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107E31065674 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=040081bc4@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32408FC12 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=040081bc4@tx.rr.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,619,1204524000"; d="scan'208";a="1349430" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2008 15:34:58 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DA5D023DE3; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:34:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:34:59 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: Andrew Berry , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <72CBB8D6BA493D195318D0D2@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: References: <8DFCF30B986212E9F5E6DE8E@utd65257.utdallas.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:35:00 -0000 --On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 16:23:32 -0400 Andrew Berry wrote: > On 10-Jun-08, at 1:07 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > >> Andrew, maybe you could send a signed message, state in the body >> that it was signed, and then I can look at the headers and tell you >> what's going on. > > Here is a message which has been signed. > There's no sig attached, so it's getting stripped off somewhere. This line in the headers looks to be the culprit: X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 That will strip all attachments, including S/MIME. -- Paul Schmehl As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 20:42:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD891065676 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:42:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from camiloreyes82@yahoo.com) Received: from web63908.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web63908.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.97.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0A3A8FC1B for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:42:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from camiloreyes82@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 46762 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2008 20:42:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=GFenE9f38etIPTQLlsnH7DLpMH1vz6gIo9OKXVWXFiWd0LHd1P2H36vT1fYpc9uDugnuPQQ2MkDsbBvtB55RCT2C1m8TU/7ZM3KHu4oJilpvoRub6/liNxJ/V86fzaHiI+DxmDkjYZxwphoCaHs/O8+c6TazQF/2sgTgJYYH6bM=; Received: from [146.23.68.23] by web63908.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:42:11 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:42:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Camilo Reyes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080610155738.2CDC810656BC@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <805731.44174.qm@web63908.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 219, Issue 6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: camiloreyes82@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:42:13 -0000 The easiest way to deal with this is to disable IPv6 on your kernel. There is a good guide here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html. Simply comment out the 'options INET6' line from your config file. Also, you could give more information on what application is generating those logs. For example, what services are you running? Is this setup as a server? And things of that sort. Camilo "Bono Vince Malum" > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:18:25 +0200 (CEST) > From: Wojciech Puchar > > Subject: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: > <20080610171600.R76827@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > i'm getting lots of things like this in logs: > > Jun 10 17:13:50 wojtek named[909]: client > 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:241#60282: query (cache) > 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/MX/IN' denied > Jun 10 17:13:52 wojtek named[909]: client > 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:265#60123: query (cache) > 'dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl/A/IN' denied > Jun 10 17:13:52 wojtek named[909]: client > 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:265#60123: query (cache) > 'dns.tensor.gdynia.pl/A/IN' denied > Jun 10 17:13:52 wojtek named[909]: client > 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:265#60123: query (cache) > 'dns.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied > Jun 10 17:13:52 wojtek named[909]: client > 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:265#60123: query (cache) > 'dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied > Jun 10 17:13:53 wojtek named[909]: client > 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:265#60123: query (cache) > 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/MX/IN' denied > Jun 10 17:14:08 wojtek named[909]: client > 2a01:170:102f::2#53539: query > (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied > Jun 10 17:14:12 wojtek named[909]: client > 2001:648:2000:de::220#49152: > query (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' > denied > Jun 10 17:14:13 wojtek named[909]: client > 2001:6b0:b:2::10#63014: query > (cache) 'dns.tensor.gdynia.pl/A/IN' denied > Jun 10 17:14:13 wojtek named[909]: client > 2001:6b0:b:2::10#63014: query > (cache) 'dns.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied > Jun 10 17:14:13 wojtek named[909]: client > 2001:6b0:b:2::10#63014: query > (cache) 'dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl/A/IN' denied > Jun 10 17:14:13 wojtek named[909]: client > 2001:6b0:b:2::10#63014: query > (cache) 'dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied > Jun 10 17:14:22 wojtek named[909]: client > 2001:470:1f08:251::2#46902: > query (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' > denied > Jun 10 17:14:22 wojtek named[909]: client > 2001:418:c01::5#53208: query > (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied > Jun 10 17:14:32 wojtek named[909]: client > 2001:4830:167d:5237::3:1#59882: > query (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' > denied > Jun 10 17:14:32 wojtek named[909]: client > 2001:4830:167d:5237::3:1#59882: > query (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/ANY/IN' > denied > > > > my computer is NOT set up as DNS server for any domain. > > why they are asking? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 21:07:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B4C106567A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7258FC20 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3339601rvf.43 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:07:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=BB9HXmYzxW07fyMTmZo0FUm7Kk/i7yMjKTjsGmUbk2o=; b=xThZkXe+TS+/8UzdhXPimaQEYDDyqrNFwJ8R+v5aCAJSL5lryE+KzhCgh2FukNiwV5 I7wL8S4MYI0fmqEbcLgMQX/585Ib/tWuMi/gGTpVWCUstiC8Fwm0KH+KrOEvDuTslY7q Y2L4nPqoCliivPQf3Sf934CcCD5ZRweRZLobo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=L8QMl9daWDAX6sEpDqiJystMv3zbkcmPvJHSBB9K3CNJNwyuBAplBNA8yagnWOc+sS JVn6Y3kPt2HhmETwLHjeCd4Nbo/Cw6XfICZWoTLU0a8Q52Dpm24llSMW1Y6xf2UPpJcD Iwaaq+4S3wvW5eP5m4MTvx63TveqIbqduZRaI= Received: by 10.140.201.15 with SMTP id y15mr3382389rvf.33.1213132055494; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.186.2 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <11167f520806101407o7511b89eyf9dbc50d00231975@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:07:35 -0500 From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: dhclient and dhcpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:07:36 -0000 quick question I can't seem to figure out I have a FreeBSD 7 computer and I am having trouble with dhclient here is my setup Ethernet cable directly from fxp0 to a DSL Modem(that serves 192.168.0.x via DHCP) A wireless card(ral0) in hostap mode it has a static ip of 192.168.1.1. I have dhcpd running and configured to listen on ral0 interface. it is supposed to had out DHCP(192.168.1.x) to wifi clients. fxp0 needs to use dhclient to obtain a IP from the DSL modem the problem is, if I run dhclient fxp0, I get a reply from the ral0 dhcpd server. how do I tell fxp0 to forget about ral0 and listen for the DSL modem's dhcp server ? isn't there some quick dhclient.conf setting? Sam Fourman Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 21:11:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC2F1065685 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thoellri@adobe.com) Received: from exprod6og103.obsmtp.com (exprod6og103.obsmtp.com [64.18.1.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AB08FC13 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thoellri@adobe.com) Received: from source ([192.150.11.134]) by exprod6ob103.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:11:14 PDT Received: from inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com ([153.32.1.51]) by outbound-smtp-1.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id m5AL7uG3009123; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fe2.corp.adobe.com (fe2.corp.adobe.com [10.8.192.72]) by inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id m5ALBDI0005819; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from namail2.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.192.64]) by fe2.corp.adobe.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:11:13 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:11:12 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <11167f520806101407o7511b89eyf9dbc50d00231975@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: dhclient and dhcpd Thread-Index: AcjLPhKXisNq22HeRNOVk02mM2q82wAAFhuA References: <11167f520806101407o7511b89eyf9dbc50d00231975@mail.gmail.com> From: "Tobias Hoellrich" To: "Sam Fourman Jr." X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2008 21:11:13.0639 (UTC) FILETIME=[839A2F70:01C8CB3E] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: dhclient and dhcpd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:11:15 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Sam=20 > Fourman Jr. > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:08 PM > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: dhclient and dhcpd >=20 > quick question I can't seem to figure out > I have a FreeBSD 7 computer and I am having trouble with dhclient >=20 > here is my setup >=20 > Ethernet cable directly from fxp0 to a DSL Modem(that serves=20 > 192.168.0.x via > DHCP) > A wireless card(ral0) in hostap mode it has a static ip of=20 > 192.168.1.1. I > have dhcpd running and configured to listen on ral0 interface. it is > supposed to had out DHCP(192.168.1.x) to wifi clients. >=20 > fxp0 needs to use dhclient to obtain a IP from the DSL modem > the problem is, if I run dhclient fxp0, I get a reply from=20 > the ral0 dhcpd > server. > how do I tell fxp0 to forget about ral0 and listen for the=20 > DSL modem's dhcp > server ? >=20 > isn't there some quick dhclient.conf setting? man dhclient.conf suggests you should use: reject 192.168.1.1; Hope this helps Tobias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 21:37:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91EC1065683 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:37:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-131.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-131.bluehost.com [67.222.39.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC1F78FC18 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:37:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 13048 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jun 2008 21:37:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2008 21:37:11 -0000 Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K6BWh-0004YJ-D3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:37:11 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:32:45 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:32:45 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080610213245.GB79442@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8DFCF30B986212E9F5E6DE8E@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <72CBB8D6BA493D195318D0D2@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H1spWtNR+x+ondvy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <72CBB8D6BA493D195318D0D2@utd65257.utdallas.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} DomainKey-Status: no signature Subject: Re: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:37:13 -0000 --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 03:34:59PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 16:23:32 -0400 Andrew Berry=20 > wrote: >=20 > >On 10-Jun-08, at 1:07 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > > > >>Andrew, maybe you could send a signed message, state in the body > >>that it was signed, and then I can look at the headers and tell you > >>what's going on. > > > >Here is a message which has been signed. > > >=20 > There's no sig attached, so it's getting stripped off somewhere. > This line in the headers looks to be the culprit: > X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 >=20 > That will strip all attachments, including S/MIME. My PGP signatures seem to come through just fine, however. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Anonymous: "Eat your crow early, while it's young and tender. Don't wait until it's old and tough." --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhO8v0ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUsHgCdFyU53yJyfarKnCMFFyIg3Abm PrcAnAqls4v/J25LcSw+eAS+solaVshi =o21p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 21:40:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3A01065674 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:40:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-116.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-116.bluehost.com [69.89.22.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D66A8FC16 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:40:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 17906 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jun 2008 21:40:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2008 21:40:08 -0000 Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K6BZX-0005By-JE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:40:08 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:35:41 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:35:41 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20080610213541.GC79442@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20080610174708.GB75976@kokopelli.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/Uq4LBwYP4y1W6pO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} DomainKey-Status: no signature Subject: Re: viewing vCalendar files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:40:15 -0000 --/Uq4LBwYP4y1W6pO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:27:46PM -0400, Andrew Berry wrote: > On 10-Jun-08, at 1:47 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: >=20 > >I've been sent a vCalendar file via email. I use mutt as my mail user > >agent, and am not terribly interested in switching to mail/claws-mail > >just so I can read this vCalendar file (generated in MS Outlook). > > > >Is there some command line tool that will create a readable text file > >from this, a Mutt extension that can handle it, or anything along =20 > >those > >lines, in Ports? What are my options, besides just deleting all the > >vCalendar markup cruft by hand (or writing a script to do it for me)? >=20 > If you just need to read it, then open it up in a text editor. =20 > vCalendar / iCalendar markup is pretty simple. Virtually any =20 > calendaring app should be able to read the file, including Mozilla =20 > Sunbird, Evolution, Kontact, and so on. There are also web calendars =20 > such as Webcalendar in ports, or you could just use Google Calendar. >=20 > If the sender is expecting a vCal file back to confirm / deny the =20 > appointment, then you'll need to make sure that you send back a valid =20 > file. I find the way it's formatted difficult to parse, particularly when it's a relatively long and complex file. I just finished using Perl to create a (better formatted) plain text version of the file -- and that worked for this one instance. It seems odd to me that there isn't a widely distributed console-based program that can be used to clean up vCalendar files, though. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Philip Machanick: "caution: if you write code like this, immediately after you are fired the person assigned to maintaining your code after you leave will resign" --/Uq4LBwYP4y1W6pO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhO860ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXoAgCffoS17y5SEMj0MK/FNfg6bW+J kG4AoNvHaa1ulMdiap1MSx+rg8U++UMj =Sr3m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/Uq4LBwYP4y1W6pO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 21:41:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740CC1065674 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cracauer@koef.zs64.net) Received: from koef.zs64.net (koef.zs64.net [212.12.50.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD9D8FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cracauer@koef.zs64.net) Received: from koef.zs64.net (koef.zs64.net [212.12.50.230]) by koef.zs64.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m5ALFpmw079551 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:15:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cracauer@koef.zs64.net) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by koef.zs64.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m5ALFpRU079550 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:15:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cracauer) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:15:51 -0400 From: Martin Cracauer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080610211551.GA79421@cons.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Remind me which filesystems exactly can be background fscked? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:41:47 -0000 I'll have to repartition my 6.3 notebook anyway. Can you remind me which filesystems I can have background fsck on? My current single filesystem install checks it in foreground. If I have a separate /boot, would / be background fscked? Or is the root filesystem always foreground checked? Thanks Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer/ FreeBSD - where you want to go, today. http://www.freebsd.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 21:52:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6156D1065681 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2314D8FC16 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [213.142.183.219] (helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K6BlZ-0000tn-O6; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:52:33 +0200 Message-ID: <484EF79B.5080603@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:52:27 +0200 From: Pietro Cerutti Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080610) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Cracauer References: <20080610211551.GA79421@cons.org> In-Reply-To: <20080610211551.GA79421@cons.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://gahr.ch/pgp/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - FreeBSD.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remind me which filesystems exactly can be background fscked? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:52:44 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Martin Cracauer wrote: | I'll have to repartition my 6.3 notebook anyway. Can you remind me | which filesystems I can have background fsck on? My current single | filesystem install checks it in foreground. | | If I have a separate /boot, would / be background fscked? | | Or is the root filesystem always foreground checked? AFAIK, UFS supports background checks as long as the fstab entries don't include the async option. | | Thanks | Martin - -- Pietro Cerutti gahr@FreeBSD.org PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEAREKAAYFAkhO95oACgkQwMJqmJVx944NIgCgq5YbyF9PmhQqVfLf7LqpKaT2 lUMAn0DKKhRZvAD15vs8vf2nCj3scg7X =bcAh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 21:55:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDFB1065676 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:55:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cracauer@koef.zs64.net) Received: from koef.zs64.net (koef.zs64.net [212.12.50.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0A08FC12 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:55:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cracauer@koef.zs64.net) Received: from koef.zs64.net (koef.zs64.net [212.12.50.230]) by koef.zs64.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m5ALtoYC086462; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:55:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cracauer@koef.zs64.net) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by koef.zs64.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m5ALtoNi086461; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:55:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cracauer) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:55:50 -0400 From: Martin Cracauer To: Pietro Cerutti Message-ID: <20080610215550.GA86219@cons.org> References: <20080610211551.GA79421@cons.org> <484EF79B.5080603@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <484EF79B.5080603@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Martin Cracauer , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Remind me which filesystems exactly can be background fscked? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:55:52 -0000 Pietro Cerutti wrote on Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:52:27PM +0200: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > Martin Cracauer wrote: > | I'll have to repartition my 6.3 notebook anyway. Can you remind me > | which filesystems I can have background fsck on? My current single > | filesystem install checks it in foreground. > | > | If I have a separate /boot, would / be background fscked? > | > | Or is the root filesystem always foreground checked? > > AFAIK, UFS supports background checks as long as the fstab entries don't > include the async option. I certainly don't get background fsck as-is, never. Maybe there's something wrong with this fstab line? /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 That's the only filesystem in that machine. Thanks Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer/ FreeBSD - where you want to go, today. http://www.freebsd.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 21:56:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9403A106566B for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:56:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lreid@cs.okstate.edu) Received: from a.cs.okstate.edu (a.cs.okstate.edu [139.78.113.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC8C8FC1B for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:56:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lreid@cs.okstate.edu) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a.cs.okstate.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A31154C30; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:56:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <484EF892.3060603@cs.okstate.edu> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:56:34 -0500 From: Reid Linnemann User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070926) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pietro Cerutti References: <20080610211551.GA79421@cons.org> <484EF79B.5080603@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <484EF79B.5080603@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remind me which filesystems exactly can be background fscked? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:56:37 -0000 Written by Pietro Cerutti on 06/10/08 16:52>> > Martin Cracauer wrote: > | I'll have to repartition my 6.3 notebook anyway. Can you remind me > | which filesystems I can have background fsck on? My current single > | filesystem install checks it in foreground. > | > | If I have a separate /boot, would / be background fscked? > | > | Or is the root filesystem always foreground checked? > > AFAIK, UFS supports background checks as long as the fstab entries don't > include the async option. > fsck_ffs(8): To be eligible for background cleaning it must have been running with soft updates, not have been marked as needing a foreground check, and be mounted and writable when the background check is to be done. If these conditions are met, then fsck_ffs exits with a zero exit status. Otherwise it exits with a non-zero exit status. If the file system is clean, it will exit with a non- zero exit status so that the clean status of the file system can be verified and reported during the foreground checks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 22:02:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC6D106567A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-149.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-149.bluehost.com [67.222.38.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 477E88FC1D for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 26130 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jun 2008 22:02:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 2008 22:02:55 -0000 Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K6Bva-0001Ps-V5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:02:55 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:58:29 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:58:29 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080610215829.GA79531@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} DomainKey-Status: no signature Subject: re: firewall high-load performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:02:57 -0000 --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matthew Seaman wrote: > pf will perform very well. I don't know if anyone has benchmarked it > against ipfw, but I suspect that any difference in performance is pretty > minimal. If you're just doing packet filtering and using a fairly run of > the mill modern machine, you should be able to keep up with Gb wire speed > without problems. Actually, I tracked down the guy who had originally given a poor review of pf performance, and it turns out that the missing part of his review was related to use of dummynet for bandwidth management. Since I'm not planning to use dummynet for bandwidth management, that's not really a factor we need to consider. It looks like, at this point, pf is a good choice. >=20 > If performance is a limiting factor, then review your rule sets > carefully: > arranging things so that the most popular traffic types are handled as=20 > early as possible, knowing when to use tables vs. use address-list macros= =20 > and judicious use of quick rules can make quite a difference. >=20 > Also, /stateful/ rules are generally faster than stateless once you've > got > beyond the initial packet that establishes the state. Looking stuff up > in the state table is quicker and takes place earlier in the processing= =20 > sequence than traversing the rulesets. >=20 > High load may or may not be a problem depending on your traffic patterns. > I've seen pf firewalls suffer by running out of state-table space in > situations where there are a lot of fairly short-lived but low volume > network connections. The default is 10,000 states. If your firewall=20 > machine is dedicated to running pf and it has hundreds of MB if not GB > of=20 > RAM, then upping the size of some of those parameters by an order of=20 > magnitude is feasible, and works well. Thanks for the further elaboration. I'll keep all this in mind as I investigate the suitability of pf for this project. >=20 > On the whole I'd go with pf every time simply based on how much more > manageable it is compared to ipfw -- you have to try, hard, to lock > yourself out when reloading a new pf ruleset. Just one more reason pf is my favorite firewall. Thanks for the informative reply. By the way, apologies if this doesn't thread properly. I never got any messages from this thread in my inbox, and had to copy everything from the archive: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-June/176542.html For some reason, mutt doesn't seem to want me to alter headers to make it thread properly, and keeps throwing away my edits. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Dr. Ron Paul: "Liberty has meaning only if we still believe in it when terrible things happen and a false government security blanket beckons." --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhO+QUACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXanwCg1ejpiSTiN6znMPrqSrAwitTT LUYAnR0CHpDnCZJ1hZxL3BXWxA7JqesH =4qoR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 22:05:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C805D1065670 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F518FC1A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m5ALxxYY020934; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:59:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m5ALxxX4020933; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:59:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:59:59 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Martin Cracauer Message-ID: <20080610215959.GA20851@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20080610211551.GA79421@cons.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080610211551.GA79421@cons.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remind me which filesystems exactly can be background fscked? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:05:06 -0000 On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 05:15:51PM -0400, Martin Cracauer wrote: > I'll have to repartition my 6.3 notebook anyway. Can you remind me > which filesystems I can have background fsck on? My current single > filesystem install checks it in foreground. Pretty much anything but / (rot). ////jerry > > If I have a separate /boot, would / be background fscked? > > Or is the root filesystem always foreground checked? > > Thanks > Martin > -- > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer/ > FreeBSD - where you want to go, today. http://www.freebsd.org/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 22:06:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4D81065676 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5DA8FC1E for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5AM65qe013055; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:06:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5AM64Pp013052; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:06:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:06:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Steve Bertrand In-Reply-To: <484E9E65.4070101@ibctech.ca> Message-ID: <20080611000451.A13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080610171600.R76827@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484E9E65.4070101@ibctech.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:06:13 -0000 >> 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:241#60282: query (cache) >> 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/MX/IN' denied > > Post: > > # ifconfig -a > # netstat -na | grep 53 > > Looks like named may be listening publicly on IPv6, but then refusing the > requests. > yes it does. but allows requests only for limited set of addresses. > Is dns.tensor.gdynia.pl the same box as wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl? Did you make no it is NOT. that's why i'm asking! [wojtek@wojtek ~]$ host dns.tensor.gdynia.pl dns.tensor.gdynia.pl has address 213.192.74.1 dns.tensor.gdynia.pl has IPv6 address 2001:4070:101::1 [wojtek@wojtek ~]$ host dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl has address 83.12.228.78 dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl has IPv6 address 2001:4070:101:1::2 [wojtek@wojtek ~]$ host wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl has IPv6 address 2001:4070:101:2::1 wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl mail is handled by 20 tensor.gdynia.pl. wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl mail is handled by 0 wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 22:06:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C646D10656D1 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:06:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93B98FC28 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:06:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5AM6Uv9013062; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:06:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5AM6UMb013059; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:06:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:06:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jon Radel In-Reply-To: <484EA302.4070104@radel.com> Message-ID: <20080611000612.H13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080610171600.R76827@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484EA302.4070104@radel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:06:35 -0000 >> why they are asking? > > Because your computer is reachable on either > > dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1 > > or > > dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10732 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:1::2 no it is not! that's why i'm asking. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 22:07:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10EE106567A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D578FC1C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:07:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5AM7DF2013078; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:07:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5AM7D40013075; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:07:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:07:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Dick Hoogendijk In-Reply-To: <20080610205028.00007518@westmark> Message-ID: <20080611000654.W13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <20080608215648.Q9779@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608230131.00003da7@westmark> <20080609001010.G59013@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080608233315.GA33530@dan.emsphone.com> <20080609094333.H27092@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1a5a68400806091158n17397a14k66d85e30ac3e1a46@mail.gmail.com> <20080609232736.X39884@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080610000250.00005874@westmark> <20080610002605.F53038@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080610205028.00007518@westmark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:07:16 -0000 > >>> Because the ZFS checksumming makes the FS selfhealing. Chance for >> >> selfhealing WHAT?! >> >> could you please instead of repeating sun marketing text like all >> others tell something clearer? > > Do your own homework, please. > i actually did. instead of repeating marketing blah blah. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 22:10:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7EF106566B for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:10:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0404C8FC13 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 7678093; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:10:18 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 7678091; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:10:06 -0400 Message-ID: <484EFBBE.8030502@radel.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:10:06 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20080610171600.R76827@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484EA302.4070104@radel.com> <20080611000612.H13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080611000612.H13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms050105030105080307040707" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:10:19 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050105030105080307040707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>> why they are asking? >> >> Because your computer is reachable on either >> >> dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1 >> >> or >> >> dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10732 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:1::2 > > > no it is not! that's why i'm asking. Oh, for heaven's sake. We all know you like to shoot off your mouth. Now go back to my mail and read it ALL THE WAY THROUGH BEFORE YOU ANSWER AGAIN. 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freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41EF1065676 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:10:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF37C8FC15 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:10:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5AMAV1K013115; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:10:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5AMATSf013112; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:10:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:10:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Erik Trulsson In-Reply-To: <20080610193742.GA68256@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Message-ID: <20080611000741.P13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484EACEB.7169.43FE1258@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> <20080610165435.M68290@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080610150536.GA67056@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20080610171129.K75322@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080610193742.GA68256@owl.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, DA Forsyth Subject: Re: xRAID disks.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:10:34 -0000 > You do not normally have that much bandwidth even in a modern machine. > Typical bandwidth for the northbridge/southbridge connection is 1-2 GB/s > for most machines sold today. (For example just about all machines with > a recent Intel desktop chipset. The connection between north- and south-bridge > on those is equivalent to a PCI-E x4 connection (which provides 1GB/s in each > direction.)) as long as it's not saturated it's not a problem. >>> with several other devices (which is not uncommon) then the reduced >>> bandwidth usage can be very useful. >> >> true. but not if it's builtin in chipset or on PCI express. > > PCI-E controller cards are still fairly uncommon, and many of them but integrated in chipset - common. > require a x4 or x8 slot, while most motherboards only have x1 slots > (apart from the x16 slot intended for a graphics card.) this slot is usable for anything. i always take some old PCI card for free for servers. as they don't need graphics anyway. on my 8-disk server i could get 95MB/s from EACH of 8 drives in parallel, still having minimal system load. it isn't anything expensive, quite cheap gigabyte motherboard with core2 duo and 2GB RAM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 22:12:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F38106567A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:12:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41CC8FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:11:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5AMBsuc013140; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:11:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5AMBs6s013137; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:11:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:11:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Martin Cracauer In-Reply-To: <20080610211551.GA79421@cons.org> Message-ID: <20080611001043.N13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080610211551.GA79421@cons.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remind me which filesystems exactly can be background fscked? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:12:01 -0000 > I'll have to repartition my 6.3 notebook anyway. Can you remind me anything except / can be. actually - i turn background_fsck off. it's better to check filesystems at start and be sure system runs clean. unless you have crashes everyday ;( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 22:14:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270231065671 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:14:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4448FC12 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5AMEFbw013171; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:14:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5AMEFuQ013168; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:14:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:14:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20080610152240.GB66787@kokopelli.hydra> Message-ID: <20080611001227.K13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080610152240.GB66787@kokopelli.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: firewall high-load performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:14:23 -0000 > My preferred firewall these days, for general use, is pf. I seem to > recall someone who has used it in high-load scenarios that it can kinda > choke at high loads, though I don't recall whether that was due to pf > itself or the fact he was running it on OpenBSD. Until now, this has not > been a concern for me. it would be good to check out ipfw. at least it's IMHO much cleaner and easier to make rules i need, but it is fast. but please check, i don't have any side-to-side comparision. of course it depends how you rules are complicated and how good/bad you will define them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 22:16:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E451065672 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6314C8FC12 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5AMGseW016227; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:16:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5AMGsZs016218; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:16:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:16:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jon Radel In-Reply-To: <484EFBBE.8030502@radel.com> Message-ID: <20080611001613.Y13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080610171600.R76827@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484EA302.4070104@radel.com> <20080611000612.H13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484EFBBE.8030502@radel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:16:59 -0000 >>> >>> dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1 >>> >>> or >>> >>> dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10732 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:1::2 >> >> >> no it is not! that's why i'm asking. > > Oh, for heaven's sake. We all know you like to shoot off your mouth. Now go > back to my mail and read it ALL THE WAY THROUGH BEFORE YOU ANSWER AGAIN. > Jeez. > so maybe you should explain clearer because i do read what you write. my computer isn't 2001:4070:101::1 nor 2001:4070:101:1::2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 22:28:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BDB1065670 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:28:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC298FC19 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:28:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5AMScS5021906; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:28:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5AMSb8d021903; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:28:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:28:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20080610215829.GA79531@kokopelli.hydra> Message-ID: <20080611002739.L21896@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080610215829.GA79531@kokopelli.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: re: firewall high-load performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:28:46 -0000 > > Actually, I tracked down the guy who had originally given a poor review > of pf performance, and it turns out that the missing part of his review > was related to use of dummynet for bandwidth management. Since I'm not > planning to use dummynet for bandwidth management, that's not really a > factor we need to consider. It looks like, at this point, pf is a good > choice. is there a way to check on running system how much CPU time is used to perform firewalling/traffic manager - be it pf or ipfw? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 22:35:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3083106564A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:35:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=040081bc4@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725DC8FC19 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:35:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=040081bc4@tx.rr.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,619,1204524000"; d="scan'208";a="1668389" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2008 17:35:04 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C611D23DE3 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:35:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:35:05 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20080610213245.GB79442@kokopelli.hydra> References: <8DFCF30B986212E9F5E6DE8E@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <72CBB8D6BA493D195318D0D2@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20080610213245.GB79442@kokopelli.hydra> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:35:05 -0000 --On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 15:32:45 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 03:34:59PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> --On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 16:23:32 -0400 Andrew Berry >> wrote: >> >> > On 10-Jun-08, at 1:07 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> > >> >> Andrew, maybe you could send a signed message, state in the body >> >> that it was signed, and then I can look at the headers and tell you >> >> what's going on. >> > >> > Here is a message which has been signed. >> > >> >> There's no sig attached, so it's getting stripped off somewhere. >> This line in the headers looks to be the culprit: >> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 >> >> That will strip all attachments, including S/MIME. > > My PGP signatures seem to come through just fine, however. Yes it did. And it appears that this is the reason: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H1spWtNR+x+ondvy" Content-Disposition: inline Andrew's is like this: Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-746495031; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:23:32 -0400 References: <8DFCF30B986212E9F5E6DE8E@utd65257.utdallas.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) X-Spam-Scanner: SpamAssassin 3.000004 (http://www.spamassassin.org/) on batman.cs.uoguelph.ca X-Spam-Score: hits=0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Tests: FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Status: Suspected X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 131.104.94.198 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 172.17.94.85 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Notice that his was processed through MIMEDefang twice and then Content Filtered by Mailman. Also, his content type is protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" whereas yours is "application/pgp-signature". There's also no Content-Disposition: line in Andrew's email headers, so it's possible that absence of that line makes a difference as well. By default, it appears that Mailman does not do content filtering. It also has pass rules (if filtering is enabled) for multipart/mixed, multipart/alternative and text/plain. So, it's possible that MIMEDefang is the culprit instead. -- Paul Schmehl As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 22:35:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FE5106566C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70118FC22 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:35:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5AMZFka022711; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:35:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5AMZE9h022696; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:35:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:35:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <484EA9AE.2010407@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: <20080611003049.Y21896@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080610152240.GB66787@kokopelli.hydra> <484EA9AE.2010407@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: firewall high-load performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:35:18 -0000 > High load may or may not be a problem depending on your traffic patterns. > I've seen pf firewalls suffer by running out of state-table space in > situations where there are a lot of fairly short-lived but low volume > network connections. The default is 10,000 states. If your firewall machine is this state-table a hash table or something similar. if so - making it much bigger than CPU cache may actually slow down things because DRAM access latency is huge on modern machines. > On the whole I'd go with pf every time simply based on how much more > manageable it is compared to ipfw -- you have to try, hard, to lock > yourself out when reloading a new pf ruleset. i already learned well locking myself after making mistake in ipfw rules now i run screen and do something like that cd /etc cp firewall firewall.old cp firewall firewall.new firewall.new cp firewall.new firewall;/etc/rc.d/ipfw restart;sleep 100;cp firewall.old firewall;/etc/rc.d/ipfw restart then i have 100 seconds to quickly test new rules, at least to make sure i'm not locked. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 22:37:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD211065673 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=040081bc4@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 449288FC0C for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=040081bc4@tx.rr.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,619,1204524000"; d="scan'208";a="1376582" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 10 Jun 2008 17:37:00 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 387A323DE3 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:37:00 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:37:00 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20080610213245.GB79442@kokopelli.hydra> References: <8DFCF30B986212E9F5E6DE8E@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <72CBB8D6BA493D195318D0D2@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <20080610213245.GB79442@kokopelli.hydra> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========877462B74957D9119362==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:37:01 -0000 --==========877462B74957D9119362========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 15:32:45 -0600 Chad Perrin =20 wrote: > > My PGP signatures seem to come through just fine, however. Here's a test of my sig. --=20 Paul Schmehl As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. --==========877462B74957D9119362==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 22:39:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0041D1065683 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:39:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thoellri@adobe.com) Received: from exprod6og115.obsmtp.com (exprod6og115.obsmtp.com [64.18.1.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 432BA8FC0A for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:39:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thoellri@adobe.com) Received: from source ([192.150.8.22]) by exprod6ob115.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:04:50 PDT Received: from inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com ([153.32.1.51]) by outbound-smtp-2.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id m5AEHKE0026652; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apacmail.pac.adobe.com (apacmail.pac.adobe.com [130.248.36.99]) by inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id m5AEHJI0012464; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from namail2.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.192.64]) by apacmail.pac.adobe.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:17:19 +0900 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:17:14 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Adding a second disk to increase the space for /var on first dislk : but umount /var failed Thread-Index: AcjK/esrrwTxMggDSoCu5+3sQtWusgABh0Rw References: <20080609205426.N23640@awww.jeah.net><9145C6E6-4C2F-4DA3-B953-4A91DC4C476B@goldmark.org><484E32C9.5060709@otenet.gr> From: "Tobias Hoellrich" To: "dhaneshk k" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2008 14:17:19.0169 (UTC) FILETIME=[B11ACB10:01C8CB04] Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Adding a second disk to increase the space for /var on first dislk : but umount /var failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:39:48 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of dhaneshk k > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:15 AM > To: questions@freebsd.org > Cc: Manolis Kiagias > Subject: Adding a second disk to increase the space for /var=20 > on first dislk : but umount /var failed >=20 > I am able to umount /mnt but not /var=20 >=20 > [root@storm ~]# umount /var/ > umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy > [root@storm ~]# umount /mnt/ > [root@storm ~]# umount /var/ > umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy > [root@storm ~]# df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad7s1a 496M 329M 127M 72% / > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > /dev/ad7s1e 496M 5.4M 451M 1% /tmp > /dev/ad7s1f 44G 38G 2.9G 93% /usr > /dev/ad7s1d 1.4G 221M 1.1G 16% /var > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /var/named/dev > [root@storm ~]# umount /dev/ad7s1 > ad7s1 ad7s1a ad7s1b ad7s1c ad7s1d ad7s1e ad7s1f =20 > [root@storm ~]# umount /dev/ad7s1d=20 > umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy > [root@storm ~]# umouny /var/=20 > bash: umouny: command not found > [root@storm ~]# umouny /var=20 > bash: umouny: command not found > [root@storm ~]# umount /var > umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy > [root@storm ~]# pwd > /root > [root@storm ~]# umount /var > umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy > [root@storm ~]#=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > getting an error Error=20 > org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PermissionDeniedByPolicy. >=20 > Details hal-storage-fixed -mount refused uid 0 How=20 > to fix this and umount /var > =20 >=20 > Any hints most welcome :=20 Did you switch to single user-mode (shutdown now) before trying to umount /var? If you did, there may be some other process still using files/dirs in "/var". If you have lsof installed (/usr/ports/sysutils/lsof), you can identify (as root) which process still using stuff in /var: santafe# lsof +D /var/ COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME dhclient 321 _dhcp cwd VDIR 0,100 512 14578696 /var/empty dhclient 321 _dhcp rtd VDIR 0,100 512 14578696 /var/empty dhclient 321 _dhcp jld VDIR 0,100 512 14578696 /var/empty dhclient 321 _dhcp 6w VREG 0,100 1007 14582324 /var/db/dhclient.leases.msk0 devd 537 root 4u unix 0xc6a78188 0t0 /var/run/devd.pipe devd 537 root 5w VREG 0,100 3 14580313 /var/run/devd.pid syslogd 603 root 3w VREG 0,100 3 14580315 /var/run/syslog.pid syslogd 603 root 4u unix 0xc6a84310 0t0 /var/run/log syslogd 603 root 5u unix 0xc6a84188 0t0 /var/run/logpriv ... Stop the processes (dhclient, devd, syslogd, etc.) that still use /var and then try to umount it again. Hope this helps - Tobias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 22:43:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDC51065678 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 800958FC21 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 54576 invoked by uid 89); 10 Jun 2008 22:44:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 10 Jun 2008 22:44:21 -0000 Message-ID: <484F0421.5030403@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:45:53 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20080610171600.R76827@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484EA302.4070104@radel.com> <20080611000612.H13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484EFBBE.8030502@radel.com> <20080611001613.Y13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080611001613.Y13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jon Radel Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:43:49 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>>> >>>> dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1 >>>> >>>> or >>>> >>>> dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10732 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:1::2 >>> >>> >>> no it is not! that's why i'm asking. >> >> Oh, for heaven's sake. We all know you like to shoot off your mouth. >> Now go back to my mail and read it ALL THE WAY THROUGH BEFORE YOU >> ANSWER AGAIN. Jeez. >> > so maybe you should explain clearer because i do read what you write. > > my computer isn't 2001:4070:101::1 nor 2001:4070:101:1::2 Do a netstat -na | grep 53. This will help. Something is wrong with your setup if you are seeing undesirable results. A couple of questions... are you using ONLY /64 prefixes? Whether they do or not, do: 2001:4070:101:1:: and 2001:4070:101:2:: ...share a common physical local link? What flags of Neighbor Discovery are enabled on the devices on this link, and what on-link prefixes do you see (ndp -i interface, ndp -p)? This: Jun 10 17:13:50 wojtek named[909]: client 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:241#60282: query (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/MX/IN' denied ...is someone within the 'Iowa Communications Network' trying to find an MX for what appears to be your workstation/mail server, by targeting your workstation directly for the DNS lookup. I don't have time to go research it myself right now, but do you use a registrar that provides IPv6 glue? What does your zone file state for NS servers? Do you have a rogue NS server on your network that was for development that got left on, and could be supplying incorrect results? It is very difficult to identify where this is broken if you don't respond with suggested output. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 22:46:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2A6106567E for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:46:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 479708FC1D for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:46:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 54717 invoked by uid 89); 10 Jun 2008 22:47:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 10 Jun 2008 22:47:14 -0000 Message-ID: <484F04CE.9030109@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:48:46 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jon Radel References: <20080610171600.R76827@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484EA302.4070104@radel.com> In-Reply-To: <484EA302.4070104@radel.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:46:42 -0000 Jon Radel wrote: > dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:2::1 ^^^^^^^^ Sorry Jon, I completely missed that the first time through ;) Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 23:01:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A5F1065671 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:01:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A994D8FC14 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:01:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 7678252; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:01:48 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 7678250; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:01:33 -0400 Message-ID: <484F07CD.5090300@radel.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:01:33 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20080610171600.R76827@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484EA302.4070104@radel.com> <20080611000612.H13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484EFBBE.8030502@radel.com> <20080611001613.Y13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080611001613.Y13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070608070604010202080306" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:01:49 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070608070604010202080306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>>> >>>> dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1 >>>> >>>> or >>>> >>>> dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10732 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:1::2 >>> >>> >>> no it is not! that's why i'm asking. >> >> Oh, for heaven's sake. We all know you like to shoot off your mouth. >> Now go back to my mail and read it ALL THE WAY THROUGH BEFORE YOU >> ANSWER AGAIN. Jeez. >> > so maybe you should explain clearer because i do read what you write. > > my computer isn't 2001:4070:101::1 nor 2001:4070:101:1::2 Understood; I already answered that question in the negative in my original e-mail in the part you trimmed out. Your computer is at 2001:4070:101:2::1, just like I said. As a bonus I told you which parent to your DNS zone is handing out a glue record for which nameserver with that address in it. Get in touch with the people who run that nameserver and ask them, pretty please, to make the delegation records for your zone look just like the records at the other parent nameservers. Really, go read my entire original message. All the way to the end. Actually look at all the IP addresses. Particularly the one from my log messages which I remark on with a "Hmmm...different IP address." Also realize, please, given your track record of telling people that what they're saying on this list is "nonsense" and "just marketing hype" and on and on, it really is rather strange for you to expect somebody to answer your beginner-level questions in nice, easy, beginner-level steps. Mind, I have no problem with your asking the question. Lord knows that I come up with some dumb questions of my own sometimes. But you do set yourself up as the all knowing expert on just about everything, so don't be surprised if people expect you to have some clue about what you're doing and capable of figuring out what dig output with the bad records in it means. Nameservers are hitting an address of yours. Therefore something is probably handing out your address. Somebody (that would be me) has looked up the address in question and even looked up the nameserver which is handing out that address in a glue record. All you do is get petulant about how the answer to what turns out to be a rhetorical question is, "no." D'oh; which I certainly hope translates properly. --Jon Radel --------------ms070608070604010202080306 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJMTCC AvMwggJcoAMCAQICEG2TkfF/93Sx9LCftry1D3YwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA4MDMyNDE2NTkyMVoX DTA5MDMyNDE2NTkyMVowXjEOMAwGA1UEBBMFUmFkZWwxEzARBgNVBCoTCkpvbiBUaG9tYXMx GTAXBgNVBAMTEEpvbiBUaG9tYXMgUmFkZWwxHDAaBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWDWpvbkByYWRlbC5j b20wggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDPdCxQufreHHDAI9YN2axx87Rf 0TK1PYFMlJHi4y1ebdAMPqR6M44bz+3m8YnKn1bmIf7dWyisWyAIQYCOhW/2r66o4MdF9qJ9 z5uhMy+28zaJP/Glg64C3WPM0VfveCgvu+ApEyf2JDbjc/hUomw8KpppgOcn1wX6PZGbhHVv 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owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 00:19:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36841065672 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935BD8FC14 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5B0Jdfn009504; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:19:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:19:32 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Bob McConnell Message-ID: <20080611001932.GB32511@thought.org> References: <20080609213118.GA21965@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: what ype of app? port of "*free*"-service app? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:19:43 -0000 On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 08:08:11AM -0400, Bob McConnell wrote: > On Behalf Of Gary Kline: > > > > This is a bit hard to figure out how to phrase, so please bear > > with me. I want to put-back a BBS/forum type app somewhere on my > > site so that members of my writing group can continue to help me > > with their suggestions and edits of my Jottings project. Some > > people are taking a break for the summer, &c. > > > > I've had PHPBB up a few times, and lost it as many times for > > different reasons. It takes about an hour to set up one of these > > ``forum'' applications; I don't know about the others. > > > > Does anyone have a best-win/solution as to which port/package to > > use? Or would it be just as good to go with a canned > > (javascript or other) app? > > > > Again: the nutshell is to allow my fellow writers to comment-on, > > edit, suggest, critique, flame, whatever, my jotting meditation. > > [for now, the URL would not be published.] > > Have you looked at any wiki software? I have Dokuwiki running on an > Apache server here at the office as an idea and collaboration incubator. > There were over 1100 pages created on it the first year. It's all > written in PHP and was quite simple to set up. You can get it at > . > > Bob McConnell thanks for the url, bob. i'll pull it up next time i use a gui mailer. wiki would let us edit things. IIRC. but it may be over-kill too. i checked out what was, i believe, "plone" last week. i don't remember seeing plone on the opencma list. (still chewing it over with my fellow writers. unfortunately, none is a techno-geek.) i believe you that dokuwiki was easy to set up. how easy is/was it to *use*, tho? ---I'm following the gimp tutorial, but still cannot get anything to work. so if there are docs for this wiki software, they've got to be fairly well tested. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 00:26:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBC4106567C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A366D8FC14 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 45549 invoked by uid 89); 11 Jun 2008 00:27:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 11 Jun 2008 00:27:21 -0000 Message-ID: <484F1C45.1050406@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:28:53 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20080610171600.R76827@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484EA302.4070104@radel.com> <20080611000612.H13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484EFBBE.8030502@radel.com> <20080611001613.Y13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080611001613.Y13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jon Radel Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:26:50 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> no it is not! that's why i'm asking. >> >> Oh, for heaven's sake. We all know you like to shoot off your mouth. >> Now go back to my mail and read it ALL THE WAY THROUGH BEFORE YOU >> ANSWER AGAIN. Jeez. >> > so maybe you should explain clearer because i do read what you write. In summary, what he means is this: You have a (perhaps legacy) DNS server running as dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl (RRs snipped for brevity): pearl# dig aaaa dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 21682 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:2::1 ...which appears to be the same IP address as your workstation. pearl# dig AAAA wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl. 4732 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:2::1 ...however, any attempt to gather information from dns3. simply fails, due to your administrative policy (named not allowing outside networks). I'm willing to bet that you will see attempts from 2607:f118::b6 (or ::b7) in your workstation logs as rejected for AAAA lookups. I don't see any reference to dns3. in the WHOIS, so perhaps it has been removed recently. Any provider who still has this dns3 server listed as a possible authoritative name server may round-robin to it and produce the logs on your workstation you are witnessing. It is very possible that this server is still listed as a NS for the domain and I just didn't look hard enough for it. FYI (IMHO), this type of question would be better suited for freebsd-net@. You would likely have far more eyes on your question over there by people who focus primarily on this sort of thing. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 00:35:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541BC1065675 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.grant@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA5F8FC1E for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.grant@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3442824rvf.43 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:35:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=jceH1arkun8b5JgGvzl1f3RorOgj7frfRST4PRgF7lg=; b=jr5R51RFMwO/+DdJtBe8cSRhCtGLq0L2sXVulAvTMHzTndk3o8Btz4luYTw8nNxM0w rn/BoGdeb9JMolQBzeTjn4P4fKXBra1w7zB31jWISVcfUN/GESJ+AlJnzqU5cny0wFwi MbJErmmCt0u1kILB1Yh7FerJi/R57kTasHOkg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=rsMnXm1EKWaKUrPA8CMab4fRnB2crL0RfSbDKVnGQJVH84xgdLhFU2y+Vvtkj9HNtt 628f2Xell8CtopkTwn2s5LSqOTnv2DmT/W7S2GxuawHHxjyjbswcN9NjoybQ6C+tItp+ A2k/QrH5KBQsWrNQTwbhNrYQ2Yu1UWtvjrUoM= Received: by 10.142.239.13 with SMTP id m13mr2315427wfh.218.1213142812351; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.11.8 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <62b856460806101706y6852c7e5k1922a3b39e628cb1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:06:52 +0200 From: "Michael Grant" Sender: michael.grant@gmail.com To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6ddbb0ef0e6b65af Subject: system needing fsck at reboot, manual intervention necessary X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:35:02 -0000 One of my freebsd 6.3 boxes is crashing and when it reboots, it comes up in single user mode. Unfortunately, it's a remote box and I don't have access to a history of the console and there's nothing in /var/log/messages. I think it's a hardware problem, or at least it seems to be. It's as if it's a bad power supply. Anyway, what I'd like to know, where is the fsck that is done at reboot such that I can modify it to do an fsck -y? Some people will argue this is dangerous, but I'm not sure what else one would do. The goal is to make it reboot without intervention. Michael Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 02:51:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D381065671 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:51:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WZ=e8b8e417@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8628FC13 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WZ=e8b8e417@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48281643FE for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:39:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803DB23E4AE for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:39:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:39:44 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080611033944.052cb2f4@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <62b856460806101706y6852c7e5k1922a3b39e628cb1@mail.gmail.com> References: <62b856460806101706y6852c7e5k1922a3b39e628cb1@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: system needing fsck at reboot, manual intervention necessary X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:51:29 -0000 On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:06:52 +0200 "Michael Grant" wrote: > > Anyway, what I'd like to know, where is the fsck that is done at > reboot such that I can modify it to do an fsck -y? Some people will > argue this is dangerous, but I'm not sure what else one would do. The > goal is to make it reboot without intervention. > Set fsck_y_enable=yes in rc.conf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 02:54:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9E61065679 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:54:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WZ=e8b8e417@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B616C8FC22 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:54:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WZ=e8b8e417@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFFB8163DFB for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B421023E4B4 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:38:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:38:07 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080611033807.1552e75c@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20080610215959.GA20851@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20080610211551.GA79421@cons.org> <20080610215959.GA20851@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Remind me which filesystems exactly can be background fscked? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:54:28 -0000 On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:59:59 -0400 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 05:15:51PM -0400, Martin Cracauer wrote: > > > I'll have to repartition my 6.3 notebook anyway. Can you remind me > > which filesystems I can have background fsck on? My current single > > filesystem install checks it in foreground. > > Pretty much anything but / (rot). I think it's just a matter of turning-on soft-updates for the root partition, which is sensible anyway if it's large. AFAIK soft-updates are off by default for / because there's no benefit in the standard install, and because snapshots can cause problems with installworld on very small partitions. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 05:05:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756CC1065676 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378948FC0C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so724928ana.13 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:05:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=I4QzeGtZ26QrL0SiJHmdriLIyMKHCQ6Kv7VIbaPXS+Q=; b=bEFROU1Y0dxYsNWM6G+9IfXsNzaF8gWMS3yL4OZif70H5B676IEZk8j4t0AbgrukOp vsOpsA4yZ3iSE/dw8jBXCR8f8/ZrwVci1+GLOaekYhEC/EK+gQ1JgL9OfsKzsIhAmC5E B0ktlgu6ElnHQJatMU+jOD2b8T8vxspCWQbqU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=XyeA6Bkg2XzAoI/ZiarHaomXKlr4n443Q1viKX8/bsKCrMcP0nzE/0ThKQIzwKTH0i AtfTYhiEe95c3+vaR5UJDqeYC1gx75PEmh5vDstrYMokvC8zV0kbfYwiGuxoMRjU/JXG ZMnCHJrXKGXeM5l11/ap/BkgSa7ln2A/RDMz4= Received: by 10.100.41.4 with SMTP id o4mr6694584ano.136.1213160746231; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.13.7 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3b47caa90806102205n6ce07e67k9504ca15f9b84f7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:05:46 -0500 From: Novembre To: "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <3b47caa90806081725kee1bfdegb7c097acc12519df@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3b47caa90806081725kee1bfdegb7c097acc12519df@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: mplayer plug-in not playing some streams X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:05:47 -0000 On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Novembre wrote: > > Hi, > > I have installed mplayer-0.99.10_14 and mplayerplug-in-3.45 using packages > on my 7.0-RELEASE machine which runs Firefox 2.0.0.12. I am not able to > see *some* online content, though, and I couldn't find any pattern. > For example, going to http://www.davidgilmour.com/dvd.htm , I can see the > Windows Media streams (both low and high resolution versions), but QuickTime > and Real Player streams are not played at all --- a new tab opens in > Firefox, and I see "Getting playlist..." and "Connecting to server..." > messages, but then it says "Stopped" and that's it! > But, if I go to http://www.satriani.com/podcast/Satchafunkilus/ and click > on any of the podcasts (they are in .m4v which, if I'm not mistaken, is just > a container for QuickTime .mov videos), mplayerplug-in plays them > flawlessly. Another example for QuickTime is > http://www.vai.com/SightsSounds/video_vault/index.html where all the > videos can be played perfectly. > As for Real Player, I see watch BBC Persian website's videos in Windows > Media (e.g. this one about Euro2008 games > http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/meta/dps/2008/06/bb/080606_op-euro2008_16x9_bb.asx), but if I choose Real Player as my format, I can only hear the sound and > no video is played! > > I would appreciate any help :) > > Thanks a lot > > anybody? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 05:09:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71031065672 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD708FC13 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so725136ana.13 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:09:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=UrE8ETs9eBx0VqMIHm1U1Cfuh4lzYsuPT2FCjDIlipQ=; b=GAG/TjBBBshLx7nfSU6pKeBu27pflC+QSgRI1SUokMUnBO+3Exg5oPgG6gq9JLtdA0 YJ5aORAoY6+UFjZ46u8xvJBCxS0LZe5ZL6KWtQsvIRCo2ayiAFbaTw2tk7FKSTwmSbJG DYbYtVNfg98k0q1H4nNeKVSFyXB4wZF04Z2h0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=n+AA94fkfZdQmv8wEFygbTswCYpSY5f8UrrbkXhdimmzmiu3QKcYvbXt+hDJaeS/mU SWlWuD0c/KKMX7ryWOk+2oVtWHLUN12hUiGVhkmx/ps456ajrA+vgZ/9pOWYf7TbjGNG +KkMeM+ShMoOJ4ZpavzPPXKtvnP9iI7GXsn7c= Received: by 10.100.210.9 with SMTP id i9mr394375ang.133.1213160973864; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.13.7 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3b47caa90806102209w5161d96cjdd41d55f0315429c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:09:33 -0500 From: Novembre To: "FreeBSD Questions" , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: how to determine the date a port is installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:09:34 -0000 Hi all, Two questions: 1) Is it possible to determine the date a port/package is installed? 2) How can I delete all the ports/packages installed after a certain date? Thanks a lot :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 05:15:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB551065672 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:15:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E3378FC15 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:15:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Jun 2008 04:48:49 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO bobcat.edu) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 11 Jun 2008 06:48:49 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+LRcw9hDOLGVjre6Lp+aRDHIiI7sM1mSG+xKLhJV eJ7nYa897GG1iz Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:55:19 +0200 From: herbert langhans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20080611065519.05ca0584.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200806072130.37565.derek.graham@att.net> References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> <200806071547.56717.derek.graham@att.net> <200806080946.44026.agh@tpg.com.au> <200806072130.37565.derek.graham@att.net> Organization: private X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:15:32 -0000 There are some instructions how you can get the Flashplayer running. Not perfect, but it will do in many cases. http://freebsd.langhans.com.pl/af/index.html Cheers herbs -- ******* Herbert Langhans, Warschau ******* Sprachtraining Langhans ******* http://www.langhans.com.pl ******* herbert.raimund@gmx.net ******* NIP 526-229-61-51 ******* Regon 014911759 ******* Tel. 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 05:41:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7411065673; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46778FC15; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 95B451CC060; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:41:25 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Novembre Message-ID: <20080611054125.GA15965@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <3b47caa90806102209w5161d96cjdd41d55f0315429c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3b47caa90806102209w5161d96cjdd41d55f0315429c@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to determine the date a port is installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:41:25 -0000 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:09:33AM -0500, Novembre wrote: > Two questions: > 1) Is it possible to determine the date a port/package is installed? ls -ld /var/db/pkg/, use the mtime of the directory. > 2) How can I delete all the ports/packages installed after a certain date? Use a combination of find with the -mtime flag, and pkg_delete. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 05:52:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C836106564A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:52:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38CD8FC1C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5B5qfEq072898; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:52:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.5.5 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m5B5qfEq072898 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1213163563; bh=ztfKf8K3k/6oQT 2l7xWxf+y5pmhjdVtbowA/j0tvsrs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<484F6823.8060800@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Wed,=2 011=20Jun=202008=2006:52:35=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080607)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20camiloreyes82@yahoo.com|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.or g|Subject:=20Re:=20freebsd-questions=20Digest,=20Vol=20219,=20Issue =206|References:=20<805731.44174.qm@web63908.mail.re1.yahoo.com>|In -Reply-To:=20<805731.44174.qm@web63908.mail.re1.yahoo.com>|X-Enigma il-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3 Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D =0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigF5FC74704E741BF172331F1C"; b=Vp4z T+D6TFGmm0RH8cPfn4GdH2SD3E2pKkqMacweNwrU8cjHiNB+ITSLl2lvCkYjkcq9WHQ 4xyg3pihzySRzyckjiNlRBpRLTg/G8dP+GVxyajMueJ/EcXwOz4km71VQVXJwg63ttV nQyd3kBFPFfVCOv1PfqJUW9r7GpXetpBY= Message-ID: <484F6823.8060800@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:52:35 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: camiloreyes82@yahoo.com References: <805731.44174.qm@web63908.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <805731.44174.qm@web63908.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF5FC74704E741BF172331F1C" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:52:43 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93, clamav-milter version 0.93 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 219, Issue 6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:52:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF5FC74704E741BF172331F1C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Camilo Reyes wrote: > The easiest way to deal with this is to disable IPv6 on your kernel. > There is a good guide here: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-= building.html. >=20 > Simply comment out the 'options INET6' line from your config file. Also= , > you could give more information on what application is generating those= > logs. For example, what services are you running? Is this setup as a > server? And things of that sort. Uh, in this case, no it won't. A DNS server can contain and serve IPv6 RR types even if it has absolutely no IPv6 connectivity itself. What the log file shows are attempts to look up A and AAAA records. It happens that the machine being queried and the machine doing the querying could connect via IPv6, but that wasn't what the OP was complaining about. Honestly, this unthinking reflex advice to "turn off IPv6" is getting really tired, and it is not helpful. IPv6 is a fact of life. IPv4 address space is rapidly running out -- there's about 3 years worth to go. See this report, for instance: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/huston-ipv4.pdf If you aren't IPv6 ready and capable real soon now, then you're going to find it increasingly hard to cope on the Internet. On the other hand:= remember the Y2K feeding frenzy at the end of the 90's? There's going to be a similar scramble to switch to IPv6 and people with the requisite skills are going to be in demand... Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigF5FC74704E741BF172331F1C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkhPaCkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyNHACeKFdza1+RSNryU4APU0TOkBni WQ8AnAnVkB8fA/N9jNBKYrkhlbGM1bFB =8i+S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF5FC74704E741BF172331F1C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 06:00:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27963106566C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darylXYZ@ci.com.au) Received: from mippet.ci.com.au (mippet.ci.com.au [192.65.182.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA93D8FC13 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darylXYZ@ci.com.au) Received: from mippet.ci.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mippet.ci.com.au (8.14.3/8.14.2/CE070809/cml) with ESMTP id m5B5eZeQ068286 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:40:35 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from darylXYZ@ci.com.AU) Received: (from daryl@localhost) by mippet.ci.com.au (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) id m5B5eZsS068283; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:40:35 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from darylXYZ@ci.com.AU) X-Authentication-Warning: mippet.ci.com.au: daryl set sender to darylXYZ@ci.com.AU using -f Sender: daryl@ci.com.AU To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Daryl Sayers Date: 11 Jun 2008 15:40:35 +1000 Message-ID: Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 192.65.182.30 Cc: Subject: Synchronizing packages on several machines from a repository X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:00:37 -0000 I have one main server and several slave machines. All machines are running FreeBSD 7.0. I have done a csup to my server and have done a 'portsupgrade -ap' to build and install my current selection of ports on the server. This proceedure also creates the packages in /usr/ports/packages/All. I would now like to sync my other machines using the packages found on this server. Each slave machine has a skeleton of the ports tree. Reading the portinstall doco I thought I could do something like: # setenv PKG_SITES "http://myhost/packages/" # portupgrade -avPP ---> Session started at: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:35:31 +0000 ** None has been installed or upgraded. ---> Session ended at: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:35:41 +0000 (consumed 00:00:10) I can see that there are packages out of date but I am not sure how to tell the ports/packages environment what to do. Do I need to do a csup on all my slave machines. If so they may be out of sync with the master that I may have processed a week before (for testing). What is the correct proceedure for keeping packages in sync with a master repository without the need to rebuild each port on each machine. Note: I am able to do a 'portinstall -PPR packagename' on a slave machine to retrieve a new package so I know that the PKG_SITES is correct and working. -- Daryl Sayers To reply please remove the XYZ from the email address. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 06:17:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344EA1065673 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8F98FC28 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:17:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id QAA23493; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:17:28 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:17:27 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Andrew Berry In-Reply-To: <20080610215645.D4B8F10656B9@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Paul Schmehl , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:17:49 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 219, Issue 7 At Message: 20 On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:23:32 -0400 Andrew Berry wrote: [..] > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On 10-Jun-08, at 1:07 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > > > Andrew, maybe you could send a signed message, state in the body > > that it was signed, and then I can look at the headers and tell you > > what's going on. > > Here is a message which has been signed. > > --Andrew > > ------------------------------ Note that I'm replying to a digest message so a) threading is screwed and b) I don't see full headers of individual messages, but this shows that your message hit the digest without attachment, and others report no attachment seen in list mail either, as this reply by Paul shows: > > Here is a message which has been signed. > > > > There's no sig attached, so it's getting stripped off somewhere. > This line in the headers looks to be the culprit: > X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 > > That will strip all attachments, including S/MIME. However, what normally happens to attachments to questions@, at least to digests, is that they get stripped with a note pointing to the original attachment, as this subsequent message from Chad illustrates: > Message: 27 > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:32:45 -0600 > From: Chad Perrin > Subject: Re: Problems opening mail on this list > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <20080610213245.GB79442@kokopelli.hydra> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Note Content-type: possibly modified from original? .. > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 03:34:59PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > > --On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 16:23:32 -0400 Andrew Berry > > wrote: > > > > >On 10-Jun-08, at 1:07 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > > > > > >>Andrew, maybe you could send a signed message, state in the body > > >>that it was signed, and then I can look at the headers and tell you > > >>what's going on. > > > > > >Here is a message which has been signed. > > > > > > > There's no sig attached, so it's getting stripped off somewhere. > > This line in the headers looks to be the culprit: > > X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 > > > > That will strip all attachments, including S/MIME. > > My PGP signatures seem to come through just fine, however. > > -- > Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] > Anonymous: "Eat your crow early, while it's young and tender. Don't wait > until it's old and tough." > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 195 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/attachments/20080610/f86dad22/attachment-0001.pgp > > ------------------------------ So Andrew, there's something different about your particular S/MIME attachments I guess. Another illustration from an earlier digest: : Message: 29 : Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:51:30 -0400 : From: Jon Radel : Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests : To: Wojciech Puchar : Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : Message-ID: <484EA302.4070104@radel.com> : Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" : : Wojciech Puchar wrote: [.. content elided ..] : --Jon Radel : : -------------- next part -------------- : A non-text attachment was scrubbed... : Name: smime.p7s : Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature : Size: 3283 bytes : Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature : Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/attachments/20080610/cc6da5da/smime-0001.bin Dunno if that helps, but your Mac gadget seems to work differently .. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 06:19:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA02106566C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A248FC2A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2391688fgb.35 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:19:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=xj9VzMS1PctczGHthNMkKITZ8xhcwbZUnxw2fPdazrI=; b=hlQePWyOiLQdZ7sxTkCvYfp+UhY2OY4u5PSGgY06Z3SH2Bj4Anx+XHrjV0J2zkoer1 Rt69qZmYMJcypEVo9BQhaNeX3wMDvtnYHBHAU9Lsa0m1GCLaL9JO0nKx+4/zjiEgMtGV TdiJGoZLL6btdwu3ixxLjLZZGrzZORRQhtGAQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=mKHWzLKvn0Ak7soUv6RLmxSUnczlKZiyC5KjR1YEddqI2ORbJLgPmGNEbB9g7iGUs1 3wMRY97epxgs/BS/rVsBC672xeG//PLDburFI4mHNlIVxx3YlFeEqOqXw29g1gkXTgR3 NuEPPJ+gwkdklE3ZDNqy8xTEMS3L57PaIvq9Q= Received: by 10.86.89.1 with SMTP id m1mr6644753fgb.45.1213163544138; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.26.8 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7d6fde3d0806102252m7c329be9nb715213558684157@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:52:24 -0700 From: "Garrett Cooper" To: Novembre In-Reply-To: <3b47caa90806102209w5161d96cjdd41d55f0315429c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3b47caa90806102209w5161d96cjdd41d55f0315429c@mail.gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to determine the date a port is installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:19:13 -0000 On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Novembre wrote: > Hi all, > > Two questions: > 1) Is it possible to determine the date a port/package is installed? > 2) How can I delete all the ports/packages installed after a certain date? > > Thanks a lot :) 1. Please don't cross-post. 2. ls -lt /var/db/pkg/*/+DESC piped to whatever language you want to analyze the dates will provide you the result you want, _unless_ either you modified the file(s) Cheers, -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 06:43:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3FB106564A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:43:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from to.my.trociny@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8345F8FC0C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:43:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from to.my.trociny@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2399164fgb.35 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:43:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:to:cc:subject:references :organization:from:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=YLDKk4gaLVeyQmAFaEoDqj3PF2SQYPeJknuOjkzCIoE=; b=J6fDKjyUMor7XzedG35OUHyIWsqllpminvfvVj7aBBV/WumnDEuwt/QK3pKGc6mQLq nWPbMNnJaiTfckwlgsbT1DtoqF7fzqAMixMS5NjbGKuSk+7oCqMTeCgyXAA6X5hHMRZ8 w8Ud4uMgH+u0nLoPuk8SHOXps2/dx6hqkWIsE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=to:cc:subject:references:organization:from:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=SeyQvL2XlNf1wLn6epwv/8S6y+f24aUvJcU0yv8YS21NXTPzLRkE53Ji+szQl3EOYd ZDFY64TVaYyLX9ENVvDZhFiktwgZRfGtSp5QZ4ZakahLSfT+5i8T93tPI1GKny3qdan6 RGhLuFYhHnbGNBVkbLPkDQf1C8QagAxu1Z6iI= Received: by 10.86.78.4 with SMTP id a4mr6695218fgb.14.1213164855083; Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ( [80.85.90.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm14558092fge.5.2008.06.10.23.14.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:14:14 -0700 (PDT) To: "Chris Haulmark" References: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC2211C094C8@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> Organization: TOA Ukraine From: Mikolaj Golub Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:14:12 +0300 In-Reply-To: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC2211C094C8@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> (Chris Haulmark's message of "Thu\, 5 Jun 2008 12\:17\:33 -0400") Message-ID: <813ankcxcb.fsf@zhuzha.ua1> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Example uses of bsnmp-ucd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:43:36 -0000 On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:17:33 -0400 Chris Haulmark wrote: CH> Hello, CH> I have discovered that bsnmp-ucd provides the ability to monitor FreeBSD CH> by gathering memory, load average, cpu usage and other system CH> statistics. CH> I wonder if anyone else have any examples of how they graph those CH> statistics? CH> I am currently using cacti and it seems difficult for me to create a CH> template to gather those gathered data. I am looking for help. If you have bsnmpd configured to load bsnmp-ucd module, you can use 'ucd/net SNMP Host' template in cacti to monitor la, memory and cpu statistics. Graph templates are: ucd/net - CPU Usage ucd/net - Load Average ucd/net - Memory Usage -- Mikolaj Golub From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 07:20:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925341065670 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:20:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lc-words.com) Received: from relay.lc-words.com (relay.lc-words.com [62.121.130.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7F38FC20 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:20:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from z.szalbot@lc-words.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4E2C9445 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:19:30 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=lc-words.com; s=mainlcwords; t=1213168770; bh=prHuq7j2vEoxrF8ZRIJyEE80FCBwJOb6RQd +wrAaS04=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ldooGIpPH2F78S3G0R+PuLYK ryaRYDsY1nx6RNLcK3Of2HsPJApQ9OjrQWi5dM2HVfNn8+BsNGaTvtzfpi9fmM6LxKK LeLRIk43BufupGVPSjYN+tguJIwYq8jF0JRUSY2IJNuT64w4q+TYwQzAhFUMaYcB5iu o/5LUb8mrmLpA= Received: from relay.lc-words.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay.lc-words.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03279-09 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:19:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (aejl211.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [79.186.245.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: z.szalbot@lc-words.com) by relay.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B6043C942F for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:19:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:20:30 +0200 From: Zbigniew Szalbot User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard Subject: generating random passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: z.szalbot@lc-words.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:20:35 -0000 Hello, Excuse me my ignorance. Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would allow me to generate random passwords without actually creating any accounts or modifying existing ones? I am looking for something to allow me to generate a random string of characters. I know I can randomly hit the keyboard but if anything like that exists, many thanks for your advice. :) Best regards, -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 07:27:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84E71065672 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:27:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710948FC23 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:27:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m5B7RWxa002062; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:27:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jon Radel" , "Wojciech Puchar" Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:28:35 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <484F07CD.5090300@radel.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:27:35 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jon Radel > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:02 PM > To: Wojciech Puchar > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests > > > Nameservers are hitting an address of yours. Therefore something is > probably handing out your address. Somebody (that would be me) has > looked up the address in question and even looked up the nameserver > which is handing out that address in a glue record. A simple problem EASILY solved. Why bother the owner of the misconfigured nameserver? Instead, simply insert a wildcard record to your namesever that hands out the IP number of the nastiest porno site you can find to any DNS query. After a few days the owners of the misconfigured nameservers or clients will go hunting for whatever is poisoning their cache. Problem solved. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 07:31:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EC86106566B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:31:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 2101 invoked by uid 1000); 11 Jun 2008 07:31:08 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:31:08 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20080611073108.GA1184@straylight.m.ringlet.net> References: <3b47caa90806102209w5161d96cjdd41d55f0315429c@mail.gmail.com> <20080611054125.GA15965@eos.sc1.parodius.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080611054125.GA15965@eos.sc1.parodius.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Novembre , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: how to determine the date a port is installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:31:33 -0000 --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:41:25PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:09:33AM -0500, Novembre wrote: > > Two questions: > > 1) Is it possible to determine the date a port/package is installed? >=20 > ls -ld /var/db/pkg/, use the mtime of the directory. >=20 > > 2) How can I delete all the ports/packages installed after a certain da= te? >=20 > Use a combination of find with the -mtime flag, and pkg_delete. Not really. This is a bit dangerous. The dangerous part is "the mtime of the directory". It would be much better to use the mtime of the +CONTENTS file, since it never changes *after* the package has been installed. It is possible, though not certain, that the mtime of the directory may change if another package is installed later which depends on this one - pkg_add(1) then updates some files, most notably +REQUIRED_BY, to reflect the new dependency, so that pkg_delete(1) may warn you later if you try to delete something that other packages depend on. Of course, the part with "the mtime of the directory may change" depends a bit on the filesystem used, but I find it easier to just rely on the +CONTENTS file that I'm sure should never change - unless I edit it by hand, but then all bets are off :) Novembre, you might want to try something like: # Change the working directory for easier path handling cd /var/db/pkg # Create a temporary file with the modification time set to the date # that you want to examine (in this case, May 15, 2008, 11:00am) touch -t 200805151100 /tmp/stamp # Find all +CONTENTS files that have a modification time later than that # of the "stamp" file find . -type f -name '+CONTENTS' -mnewer /tmp/stamp # Extend the previous command - get only the second component of the # file path, which is the name of the package directory, which coincides # with the name of the package :) find . -type f -name '+CONTENTS' -mnewer /tmp/stamp | cut -d/ -f2 That should give you a list; you may redirect it to a file or, if you are feeling really adventurous, just pipe it to | xargs pkg_delete :) G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@cnsys.bg roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 I had to translate this sentence into English because I could not read the = original Sanskrit. --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhPfzwACgkQ7Ri2jRYZRVMl+ACdEaNgbcX+I7dXzvzC+TF0oMKv PXYAn2RL+6gSYnou4Yy94cDVqvMNkewa =rHlJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 07:49:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E421065676 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baptiste.grenier@healthgrid.org) Received: from r12149.ovh.net (rps1895.ovh.net [91.121.199.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA13D8FC18 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baptiste.grenier@healthgrid.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [193.48.91.205]) by r12149.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D14361BF; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:49:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:49:39 +0200 From: Baptiste Grenier To: Zbigniew Szalbot Message-ID: <20080611074939.GA14634@healthgrid.org> References: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> Organization: HealthGrid.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: generating random passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Baptiste Grenier List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:49:58 -0000 --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 11/06/08 =E0 09:22, Zbigniew Szalbot t=E9l=E9scripta : > Hello, Hello, > Excuse me my ignorance. Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would allow = =20 > me to generate random passwords without actually creating any accounts = =20 > or modifying existing ones? I am looking for something to allow me to =20 > generate a random string of characters. I know I can randomly hit the =20 > keyboard but if anything like that exists, many thanks for your advice.= =20 > :) apg[1] could do the trick, it could generate different kind of passwords, eiher pronounceable or unpronounceable. % apg -a1 -m64 jVMH8f]~[nZ\Bs2"a-b*,gYPIL=3Du9_&zt~+:OXg$jDE{JnRx % apg -a0 -m8 DykavWabjo eyHeefVoc Agdeikkeo ivEncig1 ipfevDyod MywranEn1 Ref: [1] - http://www.freshports.org/security/apg/ > > Best regards, Regards, Baptiste --=20 Baptiste Grenier | PGP: 0x069112E2 HealthGrid SysAdmin http://healthgrid.org/ --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhPg44ACgkQLLKEaQaREuISFgCdFVj+3q42DfBBJnTtsmCNAEFu GIgAoKoHqSFATW44H02akFIJeAvgzzWp =RJ8E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 07:59:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A1B106566B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:59:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from wmail.teledomenet.gr (wmail.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0192D8FC20 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:58:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: by wmail.teledomenet.gr (Postfix, from userid 1002) id CD1601C80F4; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:58:58 +0300 (EEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on wmail.teledomenet.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.7-deb Received: from iris.teledomenet.local (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by wmail.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01B51C80F5; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:58:48 +0300 (EEST) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, z.szalbot@lc-words.com Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:56:42 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> In-Reply-To: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> X-NCC-RegID: gr.telehouse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806111056.42848.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: Subject: Re: generating random passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:59:00 -0000 On Wednesday 11 June 2008 10:20:30 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Excuse me my ignorance. Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would allow > me to generate random passwords without actually creating any accounts > or modifying existing ones? I am looking for something to allow me to > generate a random string of characters. I know I can randomly hit the > keyboard but if anything like that exists, many thanks for your advice. > :) That's a common problem I have, and most of the times I was on relying on BASH's $RANDOM. Just thought of this: sed -n 's/[^a-zA-Z0-9~`!@#$%^&*()_+=-|\]//g; /^\(.\{10\}\).*/{ s//\1/p; q; }; b' /dev/urandom HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 08:22:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A19106567A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:22:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nejc@skoberne.net) Received: from delusion.skoberne.net (lk.84.20.249.154.dc.cable.static.lj-kabel.net [84.20.249.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002388FC15 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:22:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nejc@skoberne.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by delusion.skoberne.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F19B826; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:13:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from delusion.skoberne.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (delusion.skoberne.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03725-10; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:13:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.15.2] (simian.skoberne.local [192.168.15.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: nejkopejko@skoberne.net) by delusion.skoberne.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0971B823; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:13:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484F892C.50900@skoberne.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:13:32 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Nejc_=A9koberne?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: letter2steve@yahoo.com References: <464288.57641.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <464288.57641.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Andrew Berry Subject: Re: Openvpn on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:22:41 -0000 Hey, > Set it with > sysctl inet.inet.ip.forwarding=1 > or > Alternatively set it by adding this to /etc/sysctl.conf > net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 I guess "more proper" way of doing this is adding: gateway_enable="YES" into /etc/rc.conf? I don't have any sysctl custom configuration in my sysctl.conf and OpenVPN still works (I have gateway_enable in my rc.conf, of course). Bye, Nejc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 08:24:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23DE1065686 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:24:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90AD8FC0A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:24:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id SAA27516; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:23:53 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:23:52 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20080611061921.1CE6C10656BD@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firewall high-load performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:24:20 -0000 Woj, another of the few joys of -digests: two birds with one stone: > is there a way to check on running system how much CPU time is used to > perform firewalling/traffic manager - be it pf or ipfw? Sure, compare ping times / traffic throughput with firewall turned off and on? I recall that a FreeBSD 2.2.6 P166 with about 1000 ipfw rules added up to ~2ms to ping times through - on a local 10Mbps network :) On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:35:14 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote: (quoting Matthew Seaman) > > High load may or may not be a problem depending on your traffic patterns. > > I've seen pf firewalls suffer by running out of state-table space in > > situations where there are a lot of fairly short-lived but low volume > > network connections. The default is 10,000 states. If your firewall machine > > is this state-table a hash table or something similar. if so - making it > much bigger than CPU cache may actually slow down things because DRAM > access latency is huge on modern machines. There was some discussion of the efficiency of ipfw stateful rules in recent weeks, over on -net IIRC. As someone else mentioned, that's the place to be if you're interested in net stuff, and are prepared to sit back and read some real expertise before saying too much for a while :) ipfw hashes src.ip ^ dst.ip ^ src.port ^ dst.port for connections in a default of 256 buckets, which is very fast when there are no collisions; duplicates however are added to a linked list, which gets slow if large, such as for raw IP or ICMP where 'port' numbers = 0. I'm not sure what stateful rules really mean in those contexts anyway, but there was talk of increasing both the (default) no. of buckets and maximum stetes kept, the memory penalty being pretty insignificant on today's hardware. I tend to doubt that processor caching is an issue one way or the other. > > On the whole I'd go with pf every time simply based on how much more > > manageable it is compared to ipfw -- you have to try, hard, to lock > > yourself out when reloading a new pf ruleset. > > i already learned well locking myself after making mistake in ipfw rules > > now i run screen and do something like that > > cd /etc > cp firewall firewall.old > cp firewall firewall.new > firewall.new > cp firewall.new firewall;/etc/rc.d/ipfw restart;sleep 100;cp firewall.old firewall;/etc/rc.d/ipfw restart > > then i have 100 seconds to quickly test new rules, at least to make sure > i'm not locked. Yeah that'll work, as suggested in the manual's example. I also wouldn't mind seeing some proper empirical comparisons between ipfw and pf. Many of the reasons sometimes offered to prefer pf have been addressed in ipfw more recently (like in-kernel NAT for 7.x) and development of both is always ongoing, so it's still largely personal preference. I've been using ipfw for just over 10 years and am fairly familiar with it, and there are plenty of options I've not yet tried. Anyone reading the handbook these days would think ipfw was deprecated, and one day I hope to do a number on the ipfw section there; it contains out and out factual errors, some misconceptions and poor examples, still the author does declare his familiarity is otherwise, ipf as I recall. BTW I'm not dissing pf in any way, I've just never tried it. ipfw plus dummynet has done everything well that I've needed to do so far, mostly on networks smaller even than yours :) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 08:26:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713E8106567D for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:26:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A7B8FC17 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5B8Ql9M058283; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:26:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5B8QkW2058279; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:26:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:26:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Steve Bertrand In-Reply-To: <484F1C45.1050406@ibctech.ca> Message-ID: <20080611101951.V58163@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080610171600.R76827@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484EA302.4070104@radel.com> <20080611000612.H13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484EFBBE.8030502@radel.com> <20080611001613.Y13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484F1C45.1050406@ibctech.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jon Radel Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:26:54 -0000 > > pearl# dig aaaa dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl > dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 21682 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:2::1 that's funny because i have in my domain: dns3 A 213.192.74.1 dns3 AAAA 2001:4070:101::1 not :2::1 tried my secondary dns - the same. tried dig aaaa dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl from other server in poland - the same! any idea where this :2::1 can be kept. nowhere on my machines for sure. i did grep 2001:4070:101:2::1 /etc/namedb/*/* on both my primary and secondary dns - found only one position that defines wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl nothing more. asked polish telecom DNS to look how it look from outside, got this dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1 which is OK. as you get :2::1 - any idea why? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 08:28:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92BF21065676 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:28:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFE98FC13 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:28:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5B8Stgj058304; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:28:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5B8Sr0K058301; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:28:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:28:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080611102817.Q58163@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jon Radel Subject: RE: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:28:59 -0000 > can find to any DNS query. > > After a few days the owners of the misconfigured nameservers > or clients will go hunting for whatever is poisoning their cache. > > Problem solved. > > Ted > > when i will be sure it is not my fault i would do this ;) but now i actually don't know where is a problem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 08:31:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6017E1065678 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:31:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA6C8FC13 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:31:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5B8VDcq058343; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:31:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5B8VDUt058340; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:31:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:31:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ian Smith In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080611103029.X58163@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: firewall high-load performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:31:18 -0000 > > is there a way to check on running system how much CPU time is used to > > perform firewalling/traffic manager - be it pf or ipfw? > > Sure, compare ping times / traffic throughput with firewall turned off > and on? this will not measure CPU load but delays. delays are unnoticable and doesn't look like a problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 08:37:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97920106567C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:37:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1765B8FC19 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:37:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5B8bNL9058433; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:37:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5B8bMSv058429; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:37:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:37:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: RW In-Reply-To: <20080611033807.1552e75c@gumby.homeunix.com.> Message-ID: <20080611103634.J58163@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080610211551.GA79421@cons.org> <20080610215959.GA20851@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080611033807.1552e75c@gumby.homeunix.com.> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remind me which filesystems exactly can be background fscked? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:37:28 -0000 >> Pretty much anything but / (rot). > > > I think it's just a matter of turning-on soft-updates for the root > partition, which is sensible anyway if it's large. root partition is always checked foreground. i would be possible to check it background after modifying /etc/rc.d/* scripts From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 08:39:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65504106564A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C3E8FC27 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:39:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5B8dKeI058470; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:39:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5B8dKnj058467; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:39:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:39:20 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Steve Bertrand In-Reply-To: <484F0421.5030403@ibctech.ca> Message-ID: <20080611103753.E58163@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080610171600.R76827@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484EA302.4070104@radel.com> <20080611000612.H13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484EFBBE.8030502@radel.com> <20080611001613.Y13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484F0421.5030403@ibctech.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jon Radel Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:39:25 -0000 > > Do a netstat -na | grep 53. This will help. Something is wrong with your > setup if you are seeing undesirable results. all OK, on port 53 my named is listening. it is used as cache-only DNS for my computer and few others. yes i can just block out accesses from outside 2001:4070:101:2::/64 but i would like to know why they are asking at all! > > A couple of questions... are you using ONLY /64 prefixes? Whether they do or yes i do. 2001:4070:101::/64 and 2001:4070:101:2::/64 are different subnets From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 08:49:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF965106567E for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:49:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AF08FC2B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:49:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5B8nfZ1058830; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:49:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5B8nepd058827; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:49:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:49:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Michael Grant In-Reply-To: <62b856460806101706y6852c7e5k1922a3b39e628cb1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080611104928.I58823@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <62b856460806101706y6852c7e5k1922a3b39e628cb1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: system needing fsck at reboot, manual intervention necessary X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:49:47 -0000 fsck_y_enable="YES" On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, Michael Grant wrote: > One of my freebsd 6.3 boxes is crashing and when it reboots, it comes > up in single user mode. Unfortunately, it's a remote box and I don't > have access to a history of the console and there's nothing in > /var/log/messages. I think it's a hardware problem, or at least it > seems to be. It's as if it's a bad power supply. > > Anyway, what I'd like to know, where is the fsck that is done at > reboot such that I can modify it to do an fsck -y? Some people will > argue this is dangerous, but I'm not sure what else one would do. The > goal is to make it reboot without intervention. > > Michael Grant > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 09:08:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9D61065676 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from i.tanusheff@procreditbank.bg) Received: from mail.procreditbank.bg (mail.procreditbank.bg [193.26.216.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CBEE58FC27 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:08:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from i.tanusheff@procreditbank.bg) Received: (qmail 14263 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2008 12:25:29 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO domino.procreditbank.bg) (10.0.0.15) by 192.168.1.3 with SMTP; 11 Jun 2008 12:25:29 +0300 In-Reply-To: To: Daryl Sayers MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0.2 September 26, 2006 From: Ivailo Tanusheff Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:09:34 +0300 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on DOMINO/BULGARIA/PROCREDITBANK(Release 7.0.2FP2|May 14, 2007) at 11.06.2008 12:08:49, Serialize complete at 11.06.2008 12:08:49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Synchronizing packages on several machines from a repository X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:08:54 -0000 Hi, You must cvsup your ports tree before you execute the portupgrade. This way you make your system aware of the need of update. In your case I asume it would be better to make your main server a cvs replica of the ports tree and use it for internal synchronization. Regards, Ivailo Tanusheff Daryl Sayers Sent by: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 11.06.2008 09:01 To freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG cc Subject Synchronizing packages on several machines from a repository I have one main server and several slave machines. All machines are running FreeBSD 7.0. I have done a csup to my server and have done a 'portsupgrade -ap' to build and install my current selection of ports on the server. This proceedure also creates the packages in /usr/ports/packages/All. I would now like to sync my other machines using the packages found on this server. Each slave machine has a skeleton of the ports tree. Reading the portinstall doco I thought I could do something like: # setenv PKG_SITES "http://myhost/packages/" # portupgrade -avPP ---> Session started at: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:35:31 +0000 ** None has been installed or upgraded. ---> Session ended at: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:35:41 +0000 (consumed 00:00:10) I can see that there are packages out of date but I am not sure how to tell the ports/packages environment what to do. Do I need to do a csup on all my slave machines. If so they may be out of sync with the master that I may have processed a week before (for testing). What is the correct proceedure for keeping packages in sync with a master repository without the need to rebuild each port on each machine. Note: I am able to do a 'portinstall -PPR packagename' on a slave machine to retrieve a new package so I know that the PKG_SITES is correct and working. -- Daryl Sayers To reply please remove the XYZ from the email address. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 09:13:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8573D106568F for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:13:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from i.tanusheff@procreditbank.bg) Received: from mail.procreditbank.bg (mail.procreditbank.bg [193.26.216.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CAF378FC16 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from i.tanusheff@procreditbank.bg) Received: (qmail 14553 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2008 12:30:29 +0300 Received: from unknown (HELO domino.procreditbank.bg) (10.0.0.15) by 192.168.1.3 with SMTP; 11 Jun 2008 12:30:29 +0300 In-Reply-To: <62b856460806101706y6852c7e5k1922a3b39e628cb1@mail.gmail.com> To: "Michael Grant" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0.2 September 26, 2006 From: Ivailo Tanusheff Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:14:34 +0300 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on DOMINO/BULGARIA/PROCREDITBANK(Release 7.0.2FP2|May 14, 2007) at 11.06.2008 12:13:50, Serialize complete at 11.06.2008 12:13:50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system needing fsck at reboot, manual intervention necessary X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:13:53 -0000 Hi, You may put fsck_y_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf file. The other option is to modify /etc/rc.d/fsck which is not so good approach. Regards, Ivailo Tanusheff "Michael Grant" Sent by: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 11.06.2008 03:41 To "FreeBSD Questions" cc Subject system needing fsck at reboot, manual intervention necessary One of my freebsd 6.3 boxes is crashing and when it reboots, it comes up in single user mode. Unfortunately, it's a remote box and I don't have access to a history of the console and there's nothing in /var/log/messages. I think it's a hardware problem, or at least it seems to be. It's as if it's a bad power supply. Anyway, what I'd like to know, where is the fsck that is done at reboot such that I can modify it to do an fsck -y? Some people will argue this is dangerous, but I'm not sure what else one would do. The goal is to make it reboot without intervention. Michael Grant _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 09:20:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492B71065676 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:20:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D305F8FC18 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:20:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K6MV0-0002Dd-JX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:20:10 +0000 Received: from 195.184.197.130 ([195.184.197.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:20:10 +0000 Received: from c.kworr by 195.184.197.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:20:10 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:19:57 +0300 Lines: 72 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.184.197.130 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; ru-RU; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080521 SeaMonkey/1.1.9 Sender: news Subject: hesiod in RELENG_7 not working or poorly documented X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:20:14 -0000 Hi all. I'm trying to setup a hesiod/kerberos based domain. Kerberos works just fine but as for hesiod I can't understand what I need to do to make it work. Originally I have created a sample zone 'ns.local': $TTL 86400 ; 1 day @ IN SOA server.local. hostmaster.server.local. ( 2008061101 3600 900 2419200 3600 ) ; Serial Refresh Retry Expire Minimum IN NS server.local. IN MX 0 server.local. test.passwd TXT "test:*:2001:2001::0:0:Test user:/home/test:/bin/tcsh" 2001.uid CNAME test.passwd test.group TXT "test:*:2001:" 2001.gid CNAME test.group And used this configuration file: rhs = local lhs = hs classes = IN The hesinfo works with no problems: # hesinfo test passwd test:*:2001:2001::0:0:Test user:/home/test:/bin/tcsh However finger stands that user test is uknown: I'm using the following nsswitch.conf: # # nsswitch.conf(5) - name service switch configuration file # $FreeBSD: src/etc/nsswitch.conf,v 1.1 2006/05/03 15:14:47 ume Exp $ # group: compat group_compat: dns hosts: files dns networks: files passwd: compat passwd_compat: dns shells: files services: compat services_compat: dns protocols: files rpc: files And I do have the +::::... lines in /etc/passwd and /etc/group. I've tried to debug the cause of the error and it reveals that hesinfo and finger makes different lookups: hesinfo: client 127.0.0.1#62846: view internal: query: test.passwd.hs.tandem.local IN TXT + finger: client 127.0.0.1#51278: view internal: query: passwd-0.passwd.hs.tandem.local IN TXT + I've searched the net for 'passwd-0' cause and tried to make something for this to work, but all my efforts were futile. Can anyone help me with hesiod configuration? Just a little sample of your working zone would be enough. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 09:28:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BEA1065688 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:28:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from hawk.thalamus.net (hawk.thalamus.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5728FC0A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:28:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72401EE901 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:08:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at thalamus.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.253 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.253 tagged_above=-999 required=4.2 tests=[AWL=-0.916, HELO_LH_HOME=3.169] Received: from hawk.thalamus.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hawk.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hxDDKyk2fy8W for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:08:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lesbsdpc.homenet.home (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3B01EE8EE for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:08:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <484F960D.90500@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:08:29 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080610) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problem updating nvidia driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:28:07 -0000 The update of nvidia-driver-169.12 fails on my system. ( 7.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD) ---------------------------------------- estanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissin g-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -ff ormat-extensions -c nvidia_subr.c nvidia_subr.c:654: error: conflicting types for 'nv_os_agp_init' nv-freebsd.h:406: error: previous declaration of 'nv_os_agp_init' was here nvidia_subr.c:739: error: conflicting types for 'nv_os_agp_teardown' nv-freebsd.h:407: error: previous declaration of 'nv_os_agp_teardown' was here *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/work/NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-173.14.05/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/work/NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-173.14.05. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver. ===>>> make failed for x11/nvidia-driver ===>>> Aborting update ===>>> Update for nvidia-driver-169.12 failed ===>>> Aborting update ----------------------------------------------- Any ideas? Thanks Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 09:38:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B072C106564A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:38:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B227F8FC17 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:38:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5B9cY0B059318; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:38:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5B9cYEX059315; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:38:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:38:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Zbigniew Szalbot In-Reply-To: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> Message-ID: <20080611113814.K59279@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: generating random passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:38:40 -0000 > > Excuse me my ignorance. Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would allow me to > generate random passwords without actually creating any accounts or modifying example: [wojtek@wojtek ~]$ cat bin/genpwd #!/bin/sh dd if=/dev/urandom bs=8 count=1 2>/dev/null |hexdump|cut -b 9-12,14-17,19-22,24-27 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 10:24:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD4C106566B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:24:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hsu@wlansystems.com) Received: from mail.bbnetworks.net (mail.bbnetworks.net [212.16.96.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914258FC18 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:24:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hsu@wlansystems.com) Received: from hsu.bbnetworks.net (hsu.bbnetworks.net [212.16.96.38]) by mail.bbnetworks.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m5B9q6Ut089965; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:52:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from hsu@wlansystems.com) Message-ID: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:54:07 +0300 From: Heikki Suonsivu User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080423) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050601090702080004060505" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mail.bbnetworks.net [212.16.96.5]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:52:07 +0300 (EEST) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD-like linux distro? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:24:59 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050601090702080004060505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need to get something to run on x86 computers which do not contain math in hardware, and FreeBSD dropped non-math cpus long time ago. NetBSD did the same, so Linux seems to be the only possibility. So, the question: What is the linux distro which is closest to FreeBSD in terms of installation and use. A linux with basic userland and ports(-like) system, and quick and easy install like FreeBSD ? Heikki Suonsivu --------------050601090702080004060505-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 11:05:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA11106566C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:05:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761AA8FC19 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4367213.home.otenet.gr [79.130.19.93]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m5BB5Ck6004519; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:05:12 +0300 Message-ID: <484FB168.1070900@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:05:12 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Heikki Suonsivu References: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> In-Reply-To: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:05:16 -0000 Heikki Suonsivu wrote: > I need to get something to run on x86 computers which do not contain > math in hardware, and FreeBSD dropped non-math cpus long time ago. > NetBSD did the same, so Linux seems to be the only possibility. > > So, the question: > > What is the linux distro which is closest to FreeBSD in terms of > installation and use. A linux with basic userland and ports(-like) > system, and quick and easy install like FreeBSD ? > > Heikki Suonsivu > I don't think you will have much luck installing any modern linux distro on ancient hardware. In your case, I would consider running an older version of FreeBSD, like e.g. 4.11. This will work without a math co-processor. You can see the hardware notes here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/hardware-i386.html Download from ftp-archive, here: ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/4.11 See also this very interesting post on minimum memory requirements for each FreeBSD version: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2006-August/011029.html I have a 4.11 installed successfully on a 386 with 20Mb RAM. You could also go with a Linux version specifically for old PCs, but better have a look at distrowatch.com for these. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 11:34:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4D3106566B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:34:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WZ=e8b8e417@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234908FC22 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:34:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WZ=e8b8e417@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DBA23E409 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:34:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:34:50 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080611123450.6a01e462@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20080611103634.J58163@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080610211551.GA79421@cons.org> <20080610215959.GA20851@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080611033807.1552e75c@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20080611103634.J58163@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Remind me which filesystems exactly can be background fscked? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:34:55 -0000 On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:37:22 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> Pretty much anything but / (rot). > > > > > > I think it's just a matter of turning-on soft-updates for the root > > partition, which is sensible anyway if it's large. > > root partition is always checked foreground. i would be possible to > check it background after modifying /etc/rc.d/* scripts > There is no explicit fsck for the root partition. If you have background-checking enabled there is a single call to "fsck -p -F" that does foreground checking on filesystems in fstab that aren't eligible for background-checking. AFAIK the sole reason that root is foreground checked is that sysinstall doesn't set soft-updates on it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 11:38:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA724106564A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:38:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bastill@adam.com.au) Received: from mistral.mail.adnap.net.au (mistral.mail.adnap.net.au [203.6.132.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F8F8FC22 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:38:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bastill@adam.com.au) Received: from 219-90-149-65.ip.adam.com.au ([219.90.149.65] helo=bra-amd64.local) by mistral.mail.adnap.net.au with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1K6NOh-0006oe-8S; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:47:43 +0930 From: Brian Astill To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:42:27 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <1213141399.6749.19.camel@steve-laptop> <359a3c580806101950o63360bc7l454dbff436437039@mail.gmail.com> <200806102135.47624.mgb-ubuntu@yosemite.net> In-Reply-To: <200806102135.47624.mgb-ubuntu@yosemite.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806111942.28491.bastill@adam.com.au> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Similar Experience/Forget Hardy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bastill@adam.com.au List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:38:59 -0000 On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:05:47 pm Mike Bird wrote: > All we need is stable unadulterated versions of most packages, > a real binary package manager (sorry Gentoo and Slackware), and > a recent kernel and graphics support. =A0Compared to Ubuntu that > would be a lot more value for a lot less effort. =A0If anyone > knows of a distro like this I really want to hear about it. Mike Bird for President! Yeh!=20 I guess that imaginary distro is exactly what I want. (thinks .... ) Would v7 of FreeBSD qualify? =2D-=20 Regards, Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 11:39:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6961065682 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:39:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B5B8FC0A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:39:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so761153ana.13 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:39:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=cLzSb8CUAJfjhQZ9bw2RC21TJkregtqGgq+XMN9qFcE=; b=um+pSlugqnqA7eUTOyAGvpeXenBjBdrqYq8arMBQ78tuiZ3mgKlSYuenG9zHqj3eyJ ZbI2Nr2fssTN2PdLuPHxy4sXcYBW6wh/RWgnxaELrC63rHSrtBUqDpe+YG8yfJdUby0b xZrrknaNsN301PxPBK1Kh4LEET5v1FNdOzJ/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=r1LJB4bP05J6NzNImY3/ZnqqAbJHqBUOW7vRDXbZKCp4qgRBwkka/zUf9lW77y7HFj scIzERUle2NCKNCh5FRtsgIMfgD+oJsJ193oErPHX2MpcwyMO6FsgrIJscQOcFNyAOeY uq9DvpRsgzskn7VR8fOjo0VY6iFjPCPd9RYro= Received: by 10.100.110.16 with SMTP id i16mr7376929anc.101.1213184361154; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.254.5 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <82f916c90806110439vf4c6d7bj25370e8af135484b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:39:21 +0100 From: "Kemian Dang" To: "Frank Shute" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080608175200.GB91631@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <82f916c90806080741n70af2fbew7bb1aaa410847a60@mail.gmail.com> <20080608155315.GA91631@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <82f916c90806081006s6d16e8f6ve1557a2acd41c670@mail.gmail.com> <20080608175200.GB91631@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Cc: Subject: Re: [OT]Change font for aterm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:39:23 -0000 2008/6/8 Frank Shute : > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 06:06:38PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote: >> >> 2008/6/8 Frank Shute : >> > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:41:53PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote: >> >> >> >> Dear All, >> >> >> >> I used to use Bitstream Vera Sans Mono in Gnome-terminal, by change >> >> the configure in the menu. >> >> Now I am using aterm, but I also want to use that font. >> >> >> >> I can see it by fc-list: >> >> >> >> [3:39pm:kemian] ~> fc-list | grep "Sans Mono" >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Oblique >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold Oblique >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman >> >> >> >> I add entry in .Xresources: >> >> >> >> Aterm*font: xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman >> > >> > Use: >> > >> > Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream\ vera\ sans\ mono-medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15 >> > >> > in ~/.Xdefaults (all on one line). >> > >> >> aterm still complain can not find this font. >> >> > Then: >> > >> > $ xrdb -load > > Sorry. should have been: > > $ xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults > >> >> This command did not give any output, it held there and nothing happened. >> I have to Ctrl+C to stop it. >> >> > >> > The size of the font can be varied by changing the 16 in that line. >> > >> > $ xlsfonts | less >> >> This did not give the output of "bitstream vera sans mono". > > Does the dir /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/ exist? > > If not you have to install: x11-fonts/bitstream-vera and follow the > instructions to change your xorg.conf and then restart X. > > If it exists, you have to add the dir to xorg.conf like so: > > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/" > > under the "Files" section. Restart X. > > X should read ~/.Xdefaults on start up & your font will be used for > aterm. > > xlsfonts should also now list the bitstream vera fonts. > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > Thanks a lot, it works. There is no font path in the xorg.conf, and after I add them in, it comes out. Another thing is, it did not recognize the "\ " to space, the " " will work. The font line I am using is: Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1 Though the font seems a little bigger than I suppose, anyway, it works. Sorry for replying later due to lot of work these days. -- Best wishes, Kemian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 11:40:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD0E106567E for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from hrimail.hri.res.in (hrimail.hri.res.in [210.212.50.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DDF98FC15 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raghu@mri.ernet.in) Received: from ipc2.mri.ernet.in (unknown [192.168.3.2]) by hrimail.hri.res.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2161797E57; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:17:22 +0530 (IST) Received: from ipc2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ipc2 (Postfix) with SMTP id 36C7A1DF26; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:10:44 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (riemann.mri.ernet.in [192.168.3.122]) by ipc2.mri.ernet.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id E42451D900; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:10:43 +0530 (IST) Received: from riemann.mri.ernet.in (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m5BBZMfw058952; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:05:22 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu@riemann.mri.ernet.in) Received: (from raghu@localhost) by riemann.mri.ernet.in (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m5BBZ3fA058951; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:05:03 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from raghu) From: "N. Raghavendra" To: z.szalbot@lc-words.com In-Reply-To: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> (Zbigniew Szalbot's message of "Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:20:30 +0200") References: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> X-Organization: Harish-Chandra Research Institute (HRI) X-Address: Chhatnag Road, Jhusi, Allahabad 211 019, India X-URL: http://www.mri.ernet.in/ and http://www.retrotexts.net/ X-Phone: +91 (532) 2667 509, 2667 318, 2667 578, 2567 746, 2567 747 X-Fax: +91 (532) 2667 576, 2567 748, 2567 444, 2568 036 X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0x03618806 X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: C75D D0AF 457E 7454 BEC2 37AD C6E1 0407 0361 8806 X-OpenPGP-Public-Key-Available-At: http://www.keyserver.net/ Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:05:03 +0530 Message-ID: <8663sgdx20.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: generating random passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "N. Raghavendra" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:40:53 -0000 At 2008-06-11T09:20:30+02:00, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would allow me to generate random > passwords without actually creating any accounts or modifying > existing ones? I am looking for something to allow me to generate a > random string of characters. One way is to use the rand(1) command which comes with the base system as a part of OpenSSL: [riemann:/usr/home/raghu]% openssl rand -base64 6 1olqAkXG [riemann:/usr/home/raghu]% openssl rand -base64 9 gO/9nTp5/SYa [riemann:/usr/home/raghu]% openssl rand -base64 6 ib9SrIe2 Base64 encoding transforms every group of 3 octets to 4 encoded characters, so `openssl rand -base64 3N' produces a string with 4N encoded characters. In case it is relevant, the generated strings are made up of the 62 US-ASCII alphanumerical characters, `+', and `/'. HTH, Raghavendra. -- N. Raghavendra | http://www.retrotexts.net/ Harish-Chandra Research Institute | http://www.mri.ernet.in/ See message headers for contact and OpenPGP information. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 12:04:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C391065688 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:04:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WZ=e8b8e417@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B6C8FC15 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:04:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WZ=e8b8e417@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A9E23E4AE for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:04:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:04:39 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080611130439.506cae8f@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20080611073108.GA1184@straylight.m.ringlet.net> References: <3b47caa90806102209w5161d96cjdd41d55f0315429c@mail.gmail.com> <20080611054125.GA15965@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <20080611073108.GA1184@straylight.m.ringlet.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: how to determine the date a port is installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:04:43 -0000 On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:31:08 +0300 Peter Pentchev wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:41:25PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:09:33AM -0500, Novembre wrote: > > > Two questions: > > > 1) Is it possible to determine the date a port/package is > > > installed? > > > > ls -ld /var/db/pkg/, use the mtime of the directory. > > > > > 2) How can I delete all the ports/packages installed after a > > > certain date? > > > > Use a combination of find with the -mtime flag, and pkg_delete. > > Not really. This is a bit dangerous. > > The dangerous part is "the mtime of the directory". It would be much > better to use the mtime of the file, since it never changes > *after* the package has been installed. +CONTENTS can change if you use a tool like portmaster or portupgrade If you have portupgrade installed, pkg_glob can list packages installed before a specific date, so presumably pkg_deinstall can delete them directly since it support package globs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 12:06:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14CF1065674 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:06:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jlm@seaholm.caamora.com.au) Received: from seaholm.caamora.com.au (seaholm.caamora.com.au [203.7.226.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3449A8FC13 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:06:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jlm@seaholm.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jlm@localhost) by seaholm.caamora.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id m5BBajB12447; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:36:45 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <20080611213645.07247@caamora.com.au> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:36:45 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: freebsd questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Subject: sendmail: stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:06:38 -0000 greetings all, firstly, i am not subscribed, please cc: responces, appreciated. i have been using freebsd v2.2.5-release (as my domains mx host on a 486dx33 .. that was upgraded after 20 years running with 6 years on v2.2.5 to a p5-133 mhz into which i moved teh whole scsi harddisk ssubsystem (card and drives) ther it ran v 2.2.5-r faultlessly untill last january when i cleaned of teh hard drives reformated averything and installed freebsd v6.2-release !! than after a few weeks of settling down and setting up every thing worked well, as expected, then the sendmail nightmares started ... basically the system could not send mail anywhere !!! cutting long story short, it was basically my having to relearn teh whole universe .. there were more differences than i had planned for and it was an uphill battle relearning essentially everything i had learned about freebsd over th previous ten years. about 3 weeks ago things started to make sence, herebouts, slowly it is clearing up, as i started to understand sendmail and getting teh configurations right .. most of teh poorly configured hosts i've now cleaned up and are working properly, but, one ... i have now got one left and like teh linux chappie who i found on google who had a similar "out of teh blue experience" like mine, (about 2003) one day sendmail worked then teh veyr next it was defereing everytingh .. just like here. this chappie had replaced his nic, i've not done angthiny like that hppen here, the machine is the machine and no hardware has been changed ?? i donot understand what is going on here .. i've included all teh differnt bits in teh maillog file here is teh /var/log/maillog exerpt Jun 9 00:00:00 reality newsyslog[15991]: logfile turned 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12:17:07 reality sendmail[1280]: m592H7UK001280: to=jlm@caamora.com.au, ctladdr=jlm (1001/1001), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30483, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address this last entry was the resutl of teh post test after adding 'SMART_HOST' 'mail.caamora.com.au' in teh freebsd.mc/sendmail.mc and a 'make install' to cover all bases. i treied to restart teh mailqueue ... no luck .. grrr and then an entry into the mailertable . esmpt:mail.caamora.com.au again did the make whatever thingie and ... tried to post, again this defered post business .. can't asign .. there is something going on here that i donot understand .. some enlightenment would be appreciated, please. the few bits i found in yahoosearch engine, google resfuses me access still but yahoo i can use. i looked uo the error message and turned up this one endrt refereing to teh linux incedent, i have a copy of bat book ed 1 it just says it exists, same for smart_host mail_hub macros. is there some way to fix this short of upgrading and mvoing to postfix ?? i don't have teh needed stuff to do that just yet (me and hardware issues) it looks like i've missed somethings but i don't know enough about freebsd v6.x to know even where to start to look for this one .. aside from this i have another v6.2 host that also was doing the same thing but after i copied a working set of sendmail configs and restarted sendmail it work properly except teh it dosent forward the "charlie root" mail from teh maintenece events (at 2 am. 3 am and 4 am from teh /etc/cron events) the mail itesm just sit in teh /var/mail/root folder it has taken me just under 6 mnths to get this far, i've come to teh end of my rope and am seriously thinking of going back to freebsd v2.2.5 .. regards/appreciations/much graciousnessess jonathan -- ================================================================ powered by .. 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QNX, OS9 and freeBSD -- http://caamora com au/operating system ==== === appropriate solution in an inappropriate world === ==== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 12:08:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411591065681 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BBA8FC13 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BC8fLw060096; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:08:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5BC8e9j060093; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:08:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:08:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Heikki Suonsivu In-Reply-To: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> Message-ID: <20080611140827.M60086@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:08:48 -0000 > I need to get something to run on x86 computers which do not contain math in > hardware, and FreeBSD dropped non-math cpus long time ago. NetBSD did the > same, so Linux seems to be the only possibility.> > So, the question: > > What is the linux distro which is closest to FreeBSD in terms of installation > and use. A linux with basic userland and ports(-like) system, and quick and > easy install like FreeBSD ? run FreeBSD 4.* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 12:10:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189361065685 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:10:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5188FC25 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:10:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BCAEGl060143; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:10:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5BCADto060140; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:10:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:10:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Manolis Kiagias In-Reply-To: <484FB168.1070900@otenet.gr> Message-ID: <20080611140955.N60086@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> <484FB168.1070900@otenet.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Heikki Suonsivu , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:10:19 -0000 > See also this very interesting post on minimum memory requirements for each > FreeBSD version: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2006-August/011029.html > > I have a 4.11 installed successfully on a 386 with 20Mb RAM. > NetBSD 1.5 runs for sure and runs fast on 486SX and 8MB RAM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 12:29:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1104910656D2 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:29:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB8D8FC2A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:29:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-00000cd0000003dc-23-484fc56a510c Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:30:34 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:28:29 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Problems opening mail on this list Thread-Index: AcjLSlBVESab9rzdQtC8T6yzET7huwAdDRog References: <8DFCF30B986212E9F5E6DE8E@utd65257.utdallas.edu><72CBB8D6BA493D195318D0D2@utd65257.utdallas.edu><20080610213245.GB79442@kokopelli.hydra> From: "Bob McConnell" To: "Paul Schmehl" , X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: Subject: RE: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:29:26 -0000 Paul, The message you sent right after this one produced the same error in Outlook as Andrew's. Bob McConnell -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Paul Schmehl Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:35 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems opening mail on this list --On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 15:32:45 -0600 Chad Perrin =20 wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 03:34:59PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> --On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 16:23:32 -0400 Andrew Berry >> wrote: >> >> > On 10-Jun-08, at 1:07 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> > >> >> Andrew, maybe you could send a signed message, state in the body >> >> that it was signed, and then I can look at the headers and tell you >> >> what's going on. >> > >> > Here is a message which has been signed. >> > >> >> There's no sig attached, so it's getting stripped off somewhere. >> This line in the headers looks to be the culprit: >> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 >> >> That will strip all attachments, including S/MIME. > > My PGP signatures seem to come through just fine, however. Yes it did. And it appears that this is the reason: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=3Dpgp-sha1; protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"; boundary=3D"H1spWtNR+x+ondvy" Content-Disposition: inline Andrew's is like this: Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=3DApple-Mail-1-746495031; micalg=3Dsha1; protocol=3D"application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:23:32 -0400 References: <8DFCF30B986212E9F5E6DE8E@utd65257.utdallas.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) X-Spam-Scanner: SpamAssassin 3.000004 (http://www.spamassassin.org/) on batman.cs.uoguelph.ca X-Spam-Score: hits=3D0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Tests: FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Status: Suspected X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 131.104.94.198 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 172.17.94.85 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Notice that his was processed through MIMEDefang twice and then Content=20 Filtered by Mailman. Also, his content type is=20 protocol=3D"application/pkcs7-signature" whereas yours is=20 "application/pgp-signature". There's also no Content-Disposition: line in Andrew's email headers, so it's=20 possible that absence of that line makes a difference as well. By default, it appears that Mailman does not do content filtering. It also has=20 pass rules (if filtering is enabled) for multipart/mixed, multipart/alternative=20 and text/plain. So, it's possible that MIMEDefang is the culprit instead. --=20 Paul Schmehl As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 12:32:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E701065680 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15768FC1B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:32:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BCWr96061323; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:32:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5BCWrCx061320; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:32:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:32:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: RW In-Reply-To: <20080611123450.6a01e462@gumby.homeunix.com.> Message-ID: <20080611143120.F61291@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080610211551.GA79421@cons.org> <20080610215959.GA20851@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20080611033807.1552e75c@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20080611103634.J58163@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080611123450.6a01e462@gumby.homeunix.com.> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remind me which filesystems exactly can be background fscked? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:32:59 -0000 >> check it background after modifying /etc/rc.d/* scripts >> > > There is no explicit fsck for the root partition. If you have > background-checking enabled there is a single call to "fsck -p -F" that > does foreground checking on filesystems in fstab that aren't eligible > for background-checking. AFAIK the sole reason that root is foreground > checked is that sysinstall doesn't set soft-updates on it. you are right. sorry but i was sure my / partition on my laptop have soft updates set, while it doesn't. and this is the only place i have background_fsck set to yes sorry for messing up From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 12:39:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42F81065677 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:39:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6B78FC1B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:39:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6Pc6-0006JQ-Gw; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:39:42 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m5BCdeZU003332; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:39:40 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 045D6FCABB1; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:39:10 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:39:09 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Kemian Dang Message-ID: <20080611123909.GA1538@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Kemian Dang , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <82f916c90806080741n70af2fbew7bb1aaa410847a60@mail.gmail.com> <20080608155315.GA91631@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <82f916c90806081006s6d16e8f6ve1557a2acd41c670@mail.gmail.com> <20080608175200.GB91631@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <82f916c90806110439vf4c6d7bj25370e8af135484b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <82f916c90806110439vf4c6d7bj25370e8af135484b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:39:41 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT]Change font for aterm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:39:47 -0000 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:39:21PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote: > > 2008/6/8 Frank Shute : > > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 06:06:38PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote: > >> > >> 2008/6/8 Frank Shute : > >> > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:41:53PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Dear All, > >> >> > >> >> I used to use Bitstream Vera Sans Mono in Gnome-terminal, by change > >> >> the configure in the menu. > >> >> Now I am using aterm, but I also want to use that font. > >> >> > >> >> I can see it by fc-list: > >> >> > >> >> [3:39pm:kemian] ~> fc-list | grep "Sans Mono" > >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold > >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Oblique > >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold Oblique > >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman > >> >> > >> >> I add entry in .Xresources: > >> >> > >> >> Aterm*font: xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman > >> > > >> > Use: > >> > > >> > Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream\ vera\ sans\ mono-medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15 > >> > > >> > in ~/.Xdefaults (all on one line). > >> > > >> > >> aterm still complain can not find this font. > >> > >> > Then: > >> > > >> > $ xrdb -load > > > > Sorry. should have been: > > > > $ xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults > > > >> > >> This command did not give any output, it held there and nothing happened. > >> I have to Ctrl+C to stop it. > >> > >> > > >> > The size of the font can be varied by changing the 16 in that line. > >> > > >> > $ xlsfonts | less > >> > >> This did not give the output of "bitstream vera sans mono". > > > > Does the dir /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/ exist? > > > > If not you have to install: x11-fonts/bitstream-vera and follow the > > instructions to change your xorg.conf and then restart X. > > > > If it exists, you have to add the dir to xorg.conf like so: > > > > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/" > > > > under the "Files" section. Restart X. > > > > X should read ~/.Xdefaults on start up & your font will be used for > > aterm. > > > > xlsfonts should also now list the bitstream vera fonts. > > > > Regards, > > Thanks a lot, it works. > There is no font path in the xorg.conf, and after I add them in, it comes out. > Another thing is, it did not recognize the "\ " to space, the " " will work. > The font line I am using is: > Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream vera sans > mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1 > > Though the font seems a little bigger than I suppose, anyway, it works. Hi Kemian, I'm glad you got it working. To change the size of the font, you want to change the the first 0 in the line to the font size you require in pixels. E.g: I use: -bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15 for a 16px font. I like it big! You can test it beforehand by using xfd (in ports if not already installed) i.e: $ xfd -fn "-bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono\ -medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15" Use iso8859-15 if you want € (the euro) in your character set. > > Sorry for replying later due to lot of work these days. > No worries. I assumed you'd got it to work. > -- > Best wishes, > Kemian Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 12:54:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D8B1065674 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:54:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WZ=e8b8e417@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1378FC2D for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:54:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WZ=e8b8e417@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13CF123E3FA for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:54:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:54:09 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080611135409.34f22e5d@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <3b47caa90806102205n6ce07e67k9504ca15f9b84f7@mail.gmail.com> References: <3b47caa90806081725kee1bfdegb7c097acc12519df@mail.gmail.com> <3b47caa90806102205n6ce07e67k9504ca15f9b84f7@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mplayer plug-in not playing some streams X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:54:13 -0000 On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:05:46 -0500 Novembre wrote: > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Novembre wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > I have installed mplayer-0.99.10_14 and mplayerplug-in-3.45 using > > packages on my 7.0-RELEASE machine which runs Firefox 2.0.0.12. I > > am not able to see *some* online content, though, and I couldn't > > find any pattern. For example, going to I find the mplayer plugin to be pretty unreliable - it sounds like it's improved at lot by your description. I've had a lot more success with konquerer and kmplayer with the xine backend. There's also a firefox plugin provided by gxine which may be worth a try, although it's never been as good as kmplayer in my experience. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 13:04:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB8D106568D for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from florent.thoumie@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58EF8FC13 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from florent.thoumie@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j4so2307266wah.3 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:04:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=iKeJYlQDRUndHP7nhjNALWhYCawF9JQWhpefEXpWCsg=; b=kAYFU+HFVJhzgVgvHQ6YVYw3rws7Sok/wygWpxVfWm1w4tzzfDKVCZKSBb/W57eUaX sm3C3zONfb0eVCGMFFpGxx/cjEFbZgBWD8rs6o3VT4LywOWonzl5JVERnwyOJljxOiHt s0pKvyDpIfMKur56qfvZMGKK5tjtKqBs20qvY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=MKqd8xdQKlmsmtWXe2/QSx17wVBKexQJpB3Q4ifL9hoIhX7gYMmemHhBSxWh4vT7WH /ngpyLCTo+xz3IkVS1yHKxnmC3Fbjf8ahiTg8lks9vVmxljAwJdXcgpI1aCogkg33Rin miE99zrlAh8vOc1T6k1dMLl7WzCkwUUo1CRKA= Received: by 10.114.120.1 with SMTP id s1mr6457818wac.31.1213188019355; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.60.15 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:40:19 +0100 From: "Florent Thoumie" Sender: florent.thoumie@gmail.com To: "Peter Pentchev" In-Reply-To: <20080611073108.GA1184@straylight.m.ringlet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3b47caa90806102209w5161d96cjdd41d55f0315429c@mail.gmail.com> <20080611054125.GA15965@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <20080611073108.GA1184@straylight.m.ringlet.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 67b3c318132ab3b8 Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , Novembre , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: how to determine the date a port is installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:04:54 -0000 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Peter Pentchev wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:41:25PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:09:33AM -0500, Novembre wrote: >> > Two questions: >> > 1) Is it possible to determine the date a port/package is installed? >> >> ls -ld /var/db/pkg/, use the mtime of the directory. >> >> > 2) How can I delete all the ports/packages installed after a certain date? >> >> Use a combination of find with the -mtime flag, and pkg_delete. > > Not really. This is a bit dangerous. > > The dangerous part is "the mtime of the directory". It would be much > better to use the mtime of the +CONTENTS file, since it never changes > *after* the package has been installed. It actually does if you're using portupgrade (and probably portmaster), see the @pkgdep entries. Use +DESC, +COMMENT or +MTREE_DIRS instead. -- Florent Thoumie flz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD Committer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 13:13:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC91A1065670 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberto.nunnari@supsi.ch) Received: from ti-edu.ch (posta.ti-edu.ch [195.176.176.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5960B8FC14 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:13:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberto.nunnari@supsi.ch) X-Virus-Scanned: by cgpav Received: from [193.5.152.27] (HELO [127.0.0.1]) by ti-edu.ch (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTP id 26588760 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:13:04 +0200 Message-ID: <484FCFA8.2000302@supsi.ch> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:14:16 +0200 From: Roberto Nunnari User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484EA0D3.5060004@supsi.ch> In-Reply-To: <484EA0D3.5060004@supsi.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: how to check status of ida disks? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:13:07 -0000 Anybody on this, please? -- Robi Roberto Nunnari wrote: > Hello. > > I'm running FreeBSD 6.1 on an old compac server. > > The server has a RAID SCSI controller (if I'm not wrong is > the Compaq SMART 3200 Controller) that at times I'd like > to check if the status is still ok or somehow degraded. > > The OS is accessing it using the ida driver. > > Do anybody know how to achive it? > > Thank you in advance. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 13:15:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41447106567F for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:15:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C098FC29 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:15:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 7679884; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:15:34 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 7679882; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:15:29 -0400 Message-ID: <484FCFEF.5000109@radel.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:15:27 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070301000405040904060900" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:15:35 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070301000405040904060900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jon Radel >> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:02 PM >> To: Wojciech Puchar >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests >> > >> Nameservers are hitting an address of yours. Therefore something is >> probably handing out your address. Somebody (that would be me) has >> looked up the address in question and even looked up the nameserver >> which is handing out that address in a glue record. > > A simple problem EASILY solved. > > Why bother the owner of the misconfigured nameserver? > > Instead, simply insert a wildcard record to your namesever > that hands out the IP number of the nastiest porno site you > can find to any DNS query. > > After a few days the owners of the misconfigured nameservers > or clients will go hunting for whatever is poisoning their cache. > > Problem solved. > > Ted Silly me, I've always believed that people setup nameservers because they want their resources to be found. Having one the parents of your zone point to a random machine of yours, which you then use to serve crap records, strikes me as somewhat counterproductive. And I really fail to see why whomever runs the parent zone would even notice. So I rather suspect that the log messages which so traumatize Wojciech would continue. 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( [202.127.19.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm17577178wfc.3.2008.06.11.05.57.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:57:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:50:36 +0800 From: "fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:22:32 -0000 Hi all, I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows: T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), Bluetooth, Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c Li-Ion, My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. My questions are: 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW, wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important. 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary compatibility stable enough for work ? Thanks a lot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 13:33:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC42106566B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65BD8FC18 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:33:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BDXenA023483; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:33:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5BDXchB023468; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:33:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:33:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Manolis Kiagias In-Reply-To: <484FB168.1070900@otenet.gr> Message-ID: <20080611150528.D18715@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> <484FB168.1070900@otenet.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Heikki Suonsivu , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:33:45 -0000 > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2006-August/011029.html now i made my tests with FreeBSD 7. no installer, my semi-custom kernel i use everywhere on x86 (everything moduled, all needed things in loader.conf). i used qemu results: 16MB RAM - boots without problems, no swapping at all 12MB - boots without problems, little bit swapping 10MB - boots without problems, more swapping, hanged after booting multiuser, before displaying login. probably out of kernel memory for consoles 10MB again - after turning of all consoles but the first, boots fine, somehow usable, but for routers should be OK. then i made REALLY custom kernel. minimal but enough for a router. was able to get down to 9MB. so - on 12MB 486DX, FreeBSD 7 is useful system for routing, firewalling, small nameserver, general control etc. with 16MB - swap is barely touched. 486DX machines with 8-16MB RAM and small (like 100-500MB) disks are for free here, ISA network cards too. good to know they can run newest FreeBSD release! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 13:34:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24CBC1065672 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:34:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: from web53412.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web53412.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.39.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C24DA8FC31 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:34:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bg271828@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 31658 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jun 2008 13:34:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=IShWDcl+4uUDQYFe0dJPZcfjhNIH/LPy4XpfJ8a9N6KGMaDWHa7r20sYO04ZezF2A1YQKGk65/mTH4gtDY+SHjCyAR+RFF8p7RUdC3dVbqZjNd/RH02RDVAjxN2HKMbBfVAMCP56ekMVQyIooCdBv/opvk0Y98T96+t2Q90iZk0=; X-YMail-OSG: iStFdZIVM1lQUpy8uLcGvFRnzWEK2nWVcto0ZmlX1k0U6wFZeSXDrLpSMPBWAp4cnZxsp4vwy7XU7s0rdVGo28.d81a2cBew8D._AQ-- Received: from [12.182.77.130] by web53412.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:34:22 PDT Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:34:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <809273.29370.qm@web53412.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: libcdio upgrade problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:34:24 -0000 >Im trying to upgrade some ports, and have a problem with libcdio. At least i >think i do. > >When i try to upgrade, say, Nautilus (or a buncha other things), it dies in >the >end with a "libcdio-0.78.2_2 is already installed. You may wish to make >deinstall" >etc. message. > >But i did go to /usr/ports/sysytils/libcdio and make deinstall and make >reinstall, >and this was successful. I sync'd the ports collection again, but no luck. >Nothing >in UPDATING about this. > >Thanks! I've run into similar experiences with other ports, and what I have done to get it to work is to deinstall the complaining port (in this instance libcdio), and let the original port install it as a dependency instead of doing a "make reinstall". -------------- Im afraid this didnt work either--whether libcdio is installed or not (and installing it seems to work fine), any other port that requires it tells me that it is installed and need to be make deinstalled and make reinstalled. Yet this doesnt work. Is there any other brute-force way to get around this? This is getting difficult. Thanks again, everyone. Jen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 13:48:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A697F1065670 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:48:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from entwistle.sonicboom.org (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1038FC1A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:48:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from [192.168.15.113] (cele.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.172]) by entwistle.sonicboom.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BDmVRC099691; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:48:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Message-ID: <484FD7AA.10505@brianwhalen.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:48:26 -0700 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> <484FB168.1070900@otenet.gr> <20080611150528.D18715@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080611150528.D18715@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Heikki Suonsivu , Manolis Kiagias , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:48:33 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2006-August/011029.html > > now i made my tests with FreeBSD 7. no installer, my semi-custom > kernel i use everywhere on x86 (everything moduled, all needed things > in loader.conf). > > i used qemu > > results: > > 16MB RAM - boots without problems, no swapping at all > 12MB - boots without problems, little bit swapping > 10MB - boots without problems, more swapping, hanged after booting > multiuser, before displaying login. probably out of kernel memory for > consoles > 10MB again - after turning of all consoles but the first, boots fine, > somehow usable, but for routers should be OK. > > > then i made REALLY custom kernel. minimal but enough for a router. > > was able to get down to 9MB. > > > so - on 12MB 486DX, FreeBSD 7 is useful system for routing, > firewalling, small nameserver, general control etc. > > with 16MB - swap is barely touched. > > 486DX machines with 8-16MB RAM and small (like 100-500MB) disks are > for free here, ISA network cards too. > > good to know they can run newest FreeBSD release! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" To the OP, if you go ahead with trying to use this 486 or older hw, consider the effort of maintaining the system. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 13:49:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20606106568E for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:49:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10388FC21 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:49:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 7679963; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:49:49 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 7679961; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:49:38 -0400 Message-ID: <484FD7F2.7090308@radel.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:49:38 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20080610171600.R76827@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484EA302.4070104@radel.com> <20080611000612.H13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484EFBBE.8030502@radel.com> <20080611001613.Y13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484F1C45.1050406@ibctech.ca> <20080611101951.V58163@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080611101951.V58163@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070908040006050907070205" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: Steve Bertrand , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:49:50 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070908040006050907070205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> >> pearl# dig aaaa dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl >> dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 21682 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:2::1 > > that's funny because i have in my domain: > > dns3 A 213.192.74.1 > dns3 AAAA 2001:4070:101::1 > > not :2::1 > > > tried my secondary dns - the same. > > > tried dig aaaa dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl from other server in poland - the > same! > > any idea where this :2::1 can be kept. nowhere on my machines for sure. > > i did grep 2001:4070:101:2::1 /etc/namedb/*/* on both my primary and > secondary dns - found only one position that defines > wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl > > nothing more. > > > asked polish telecom DNS to look how it look from outside, got this > dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1 > > which is OK. > > > as you get :2::1 - any idea why? Sure thing. I know exactly why. I keep telling you why. You keep ignoring me. Frankly, I'm beginning to suspect that you're only pretending that you know how DNS works. You might want to research it a bit. Run this: $ dig @bilbo.nask.org.pl tensor.gdynia.pl ns ; <<>> DiG 9.4.2 <<>> @bilbo.nask.org.pl tensor.gdynia.pl ns ; (1 server found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 45423 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 6 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;tensor.gdynia.pl. IN NS ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN NS dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN NS dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN NS dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN A 213.192.74.1 dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1 dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN A 83.18.148.142 dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1 dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN A 83.12.228.78 dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:2::1 ;; Query time: 233 msec ;; SERVER: 195.187.245.51#53(195.187.245.51) ;; WHEN: Wed Jun 11 13:21:48 2008 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 222 over and over until you catch on to what it means. Once you understand that, then run this: $ dig @f-dns.pl. tensor.gdynia.pl ns ; <<>> DiG 9.4.2 <<>> @f-dns.pl. tensor.gdynia.pl ns ; (2 servers found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 13848 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;tensor.gdynia.pl. IN NS ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: gdynia.pl. 86400 IN NS dns2.task.gda.pl. gdynia.pl. 86400 IN NS bilbo.nask.org.pl. gdynia.pl. 86400 IN NS ns-pl.tpnet.pl. gdynia.pl. 86400 IN NS kirdan.warman.nask.pl. gdynia.pl. 86400 IN NS dns.task.gda.pl. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: dns.task.gda.pl. 86400 IN A 153.19.250.100 dns2.task.gda.pl. 86400 IN A 212.77.97.222 ;; Query time: 131 msec ;; SERVER: 2001:1a68:0:10::189#53(2001:1a68:0:10::189) ;; WHEN: Wed Jun 11 13:30:16 2008 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 200 over and over until you realize why this means that the results of the first command actually matter. Or you could skip a step and run: $ dig @b-dns.pl. tensor.gdynia.pl ns ; <<>> DiG 9.4.2 <<>> @b-dns.pl. tensor.gdynia.pl ns ; (1 server found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10267 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 6 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;tensor.gdynia.pl. IN NS ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN NS dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN NS dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN NS dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN A 213.192.74.1 dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1 dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN A 83.18.148.142 dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1 dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN A 83.12.228.78 dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:2::1 ;; Query time: 138 msec ;; SERVER: 80.50.50.10#53(80.50.50.10) ;; WHEN: Wed Jun 11 13:32:09 2008 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 222 Basically, according to the root servers, pl has 8 nameservers, a-dns.pl through h-dns.pl. They give different answers when asked about gdynia.pl and tensor.gdynia.pl a: returns set of 5, including bilbo.nask.org.pl, which then returns the dreaded address b: returns set of 5 for gdynia.pl, BUT WHEN ASKED ABOUT TENSOR.GDYNIA.PL returns your 3 nameservers, with the dreaded address in glue (unlike all the other pl TLD servers) c: like a d: like a e: like a f: like a g: like a h: like a but less additional information So, obviously, not all paths lead to the bad address, but there are plenty that do. Is this your fault? I haven't the foggiest. I would suggest you go and talk to your parents about why they're making you so unhappy. :-) --Jon Radel --------------ms070908040006050907070205 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJMTCC AvMwggJcoAMCAQICEG2TkfF/93Sx9LCftry1D3YwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA4MDMyNDE2NTkyMVoX DTA5MDMyNDE2NTkyMVowXjEOMAwGA1UEBBMFUmFkZWwxEzARBgNVBCoTCkpvbiBUaG9tYXMx GTAXBgNVBAMTEEpvbiBUaG9tYXMgUmFkZWwxHDAaBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWDWpvbkByYWRlbC5j b20wggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDPdCxQufreHHDAI9YN2axx87Rf 0TK1PYFMlJHi4y1ebdAMPqR6M44bz+3m8YnKn1bmIf7dWyisWyAIQYCOhW/2r66o4MdF9qJ9 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:51:09 -0000 Also Slackware has a rather Unix-like concept. The versions until 11 (if I remember right) still run on the 2.4 kernel and have an option to install without X11 and KDE and such. I still use it on a slow server, it is easy to understand when you come from BSD-land. Cheers herbs On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:54:07PM +0300, Heikki Suonsivu wrote: > I need to get something to run on x86 computers which do not contain > math in hardware, and FreeBSD dropped non-math cpus long time ago. > NetBSD did the same, so Linux seems to be the only possibility. > > So, the question: > > What is the linux distro which is closest to FreeBSD in terms of > installation and use. A linux with basic userland and ports(-like) > system, and quick and easy install like FreeBSD ? > > Heikki Suonsivu > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- ******* Herbert Langhans, Warschau ******* Sprachtraining Langhans ******* http://www.langhans.com.pl ******* herbert at langhans.com.pl ******* NIP 526-229-61-51 ******* Regon 014911759 ******* Tel. 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 14:04:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8DF1065677 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:04:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hsu@wlansystems.com) Received: from mail.bbnetworks.net (mail.bbnetworks.net [212.16.96.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EDC8FC12 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hsu@wlansystems.com) Received: from hsu.bbnetworks.net (hsu.bbnetworks.net [212.16.96.38]) by mail.bbnetworks.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m5BE4mB3096078; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:04:48 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from hsu@wlansystems.com) Message-ID: <484FDBF9.7010700@wlansystems.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:06:49 +0300 From: Heikki Suonsivu User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080423) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> <484FB168.1070900@otenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <484FB168.1070900@otenet.gr> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050907060500010608070800" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mail.bbnetworks.net [212.16.96.5]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:04:48 +0300 (EEST) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:04:57 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050907060500010608070800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oops, sorry, I was not specific enough: FreeBSD 4 or older NetBSD are no go: The computer I am doing this is not old, it is otherwise brand new, but it uses an embedded cpu, a 486 clone as SoC without math. See www.compactpc.com.tw, eBOX 2300SX. It is very low cost, runs on about 3W of power with CF card as mass memory, 128M, 3 USB2, serials, sound, etc, it has VESA form factor so you can attach it behind many LCD displays, etc. They have beefier models, but this one is cheapest and uses least power, latter of which is the more critical requirement for us. We would like to use it for certain control applications. Linux works, has been tested, but requires patches (turn math emulation on, add support for built-in ethernet, bug workaround). The problem with is that while FreeBSD 4 seemed to boot on it, it did not recognize any peripherals as they are new. Old OS's are not really what we want, this is not one-off but volume product, it will be internet-connected so we need bugfixes and we need support for latest chipsets on 802.11 cards etc. There is another similar CPU, even slower and less power consuming, I do not remember the part number, I think it was about 100 MHz 486 without math as well. This was some manufacturer of microcontrollers. Heikki Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Heikki Suonsivu wrote: >> I need to get something to run on x86 computers which do not contain >> math in hardware, and FreeBSD dropped non-math cpus long time ago. >> NetBSD did the same, so Linux seems to be the only possibility. >> >> So, the question: >> >> What is the linux distro which is closest to FreeBSD in terms of >> installation and use. A linux with basic userland and ports(-like) >> system, and quick and easy install like FreeBSD ? >> >> Heikki Suonsivu >> > > I don't think you will have much luck installing any modern linux distro > on ancient hardware. In your case, I would consider running an older > version of FreeBSD, like e.g. 4.11. This will work without a math > co-processor. You can see the hardware notes here: > > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/hardware-i386.html > > Download from ftp-archive, here: > > ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/4.11 > > > See also this very interesting post on minimum memory requirements for > each FreeBSD version: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2006-August/011029.html > > I have a 4.11 installed successfully on a 386 with 20Mb RAM. > > You could also go with a Linux version specifically for old PCs, but > better have a look at distrowatch.com for these. > > > --------------050907060500010608070800-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 14:11:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6BB106567E for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6038FC21 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id AAA06769; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:10:27 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:10:25 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <87y75efmvg.fsf@kobe.laptop> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Bill Campbell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Raphael Becker Subject: Re: Grep Guru X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:11:03 -0000 On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:44:36 +1000 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > >On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:07:12 -0700 Bill Campbell wrote: > >>On Mon, Jun 09, 2008, Raphael Becker wrote: > >>>On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:15:50PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>>> find . -type f -print0|xargs -0 grep > >>> > >>> There's no more need for find | xargs > >>> > >>> Try: > >>> > >>> find . -type -f -exec grep {} \+ > >>> > >>> -exec foo {} \+ behaves like xargs foo > >>> -exec foo {} \; exec foo for every file > > > > Thanks for this kick; I'd missed or misunderstood using {} \+ > > > >> The issue here is that grep execs grep for each file found while > >> xargs batches the files. > > > > If find(1) is to be believed, so does -exec utility [argument ...] {} + > > Yes, sure. I think Bill was just being extra-conservative[1] and he > explicitly chose to quote `+' with a backslash to avoid spurious > interpreration by the shell. I also type `\+' out of habbit most > of the time. It doesn't hurt. My tests used \+ too, though after seeing yours I tried with just '+' which works in tcsh anyway, unlike unescaped ';' (It was Raphael actually, though I was replying to Bill's) > [1] BSD users tend to be this way, but that's a good thing, right? :) Right! Of course for balance we have a 'left!' of out-there developers, forever pushing envelopes, generating need for updates .. but we'd best leave the stability vs progress politics to its playground on stable@ :) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 14:14:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7FA1065672 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:14:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB34D8FC20 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:14:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 7680025; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:14:04 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 7680029; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:13:47 -0400 Message-ID: <484FDD9B.5050706@radel.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:13:47 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: camiloreyes82@yahoo.com References: <805731.44174.qm@web63908.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <805731.44174.qm@web63908.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040806080100060607070300" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests Was: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 219, Issue 6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:14:05 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040806080100060607070300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Camilo Reyes wrote: > The easiest way to deal with this is to disable IPv6 on your kernel. > There is a good guide here: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html. > > Simply comment out the 'options INET6' line from your config file. Also, > you could give more information on what application is generating those > logs. For example, what services are you running? Is this setup as a > server? And things of that sort. Disabling things so the log messages stop and you can pretend all the brokenness has magically gone away is indeed the easiest solution sometimes. It's rarely a good one, particularly for the long term. Anyway, the OP actually uses IPv6 on his network, so this is pretty much akin to suggesting that he turn off his computer to keep people from bothering it. The log messages are from his DNS server; he uses it for resolving and some local stuff; the log entries are the result of queries from random machines being rejected; random machines are doing that since at least one of his parent nameservers is handing out the IPv6 address of his server against his wishes; eventually he'll realize this is actually the case; and maybe he'll be able to convince whomever runs the parent nameserver(s) to update the records for his zone. 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owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 14:21:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B463106564A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:21:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA17C8FC12 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:21:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-00000fb0000003dc-87-484fdfca3b1c Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:23:06 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:21:04 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20080611001932.GB32511@thought.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: what ype of app? port of "*free*"-service app? Thread-Index: AcjLWLzy6kzOZuAxQ0OTRFq6Q0kWDwAcwRKw References: <20080609213118.GA21965@thought.org> <20080611001932.GB32511@thought.org> From: "Bob McConnell" To: "Gary Kline" X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: RE: what ype of app? port of "*free*"-service app? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:21:59 -0000 From: Gary Kline > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 08:08:11AM -0400, Bob McConnell wrote: > > On Behalf Of Gary Kline: > > >=20 > > > This is a bit hard to figure out how to phrase, so please bear > > > with me. I want to put-back a BBS/forum type app somewhere on my > > > site so that members of my writing group can continue to help me > > > with their suggestions and edits of my Jottings project. Some=20 > > > people are taking a break for the summer, &c. > > >=20 > > > I've had PHPBB up a few times, and lost it as many times for > > > different reasons. It takes about an hour to set up one of these > > > ``forum'' applications; I don't know about the others. =20 > > >=20 > > > Does anyone have a best-win/solution as to which port/package to > > > use? Or would it be just as good to go with a canned > > > (javascript or other) app? > > >=20 > > > Again: the nutshell is to allow my fellow writers to comment-on, > > > edit, suggest, critique, flame, whatever, my jotting meditation. > > > [for now, the URL would not be published.] > >=20 > > Have you looked at any wiki software? I have Dokuwiki running on an > > Apache server here at the office as an idea and collaboration incubator. > > There were over 1100 pages created on it the first year. It's all > > written in PHP and was quite simple to set up. You can get it at > > . > >=20 > > Bob McConnell >=20 > thanks for the url, bob. i'll pull it up next time i use a=20 > gui mailer. wiki would let us edit things. IIRC. but it may > be over-kill too. >=20 > i checked out what was, i believe, "plone" last week. i don't > remember seeing plone on the opencma list. =20 >=20 > (still chewing it over with my fellow writers. unfortunately, > none is a techno-geek.) i believe you that dokuwiki was easy > to set up. how easy is/was it to *use*, tho? ---I'm following > the gimp tutorial, but still cannot get anything to work. =20 > so if there are docs for this wiki software, they've got to be=20 > fairly well tested. There is an active group of folks using and maintaining Dokuwiki. That link goes to their wiki where they are using it for documentation. Access control is flexible, but optional. There was a new release in the past month or so which included support for a WYSIWYG editor plug-in. Without that, you do need to learn a few specific markup conventions, but they were never very difficult. You can edit everything from your browser. Footnotes, line-through deletion and other editing conventions are supported. But the best part is the change tracking that is built in. You can trace each and every change if you need to. Good luck, Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 14:29:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24202106566B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:29:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidfeustel@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CAB8FC12 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:29:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidfeustel@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cawt1Z00Y0xGWP8570K400; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:13:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([69.245.196.200]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ceDU1Z00E4KuD453YeDUQm; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:13:29 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Szju7n10RucA:10 a=GS1m_jJRkNIA:10 a=cXkRJKgiAAAA:8 a=-ZOOKKkFERHyW0s01McA:9 a=Xxl_ikynEJP92tlmF28A:7 a=tJwEaK_sv56GDBm_WxRfzx2PMG8A:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 From: dfeustel@mindspring.com To: "fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com" In-Reply-To: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> Message-Id: <20080611142930.C4CAB8FC12@mx1.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:29:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:29:31 -0000 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:50:36PM +0800, fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com wrote: > Hi all, > > I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows: > > T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB nVIDIA > Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), Bluetooth, Modem, > 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c Li-Ion, > > My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm > from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling > and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I > am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or > another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. > > My questions are: > 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW, > wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important. > > 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary > Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial > softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary > compatibility stable enough for work ? > > Thanks a lot. If FreeBSD runs on your new T61, you can install the Maxima port as a free alternative to MATLAB and Mathematica. Maxima does symbolic math and handles tensors. You can run Maxima code that proves that Einstein's theory of relativity has a far-reaching logical inconsistancy in it because the theory assumes torsion = 0 and curvature is nonzero. Non-zero curvature implies torsion also is non-zero. See the code in paper 93 at http://www.aias.us/index.php?goto=showPageByTitle&pageTitle=Unified_Field_Theory_papers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 14:40:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB011065677 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:40:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0A18FC14 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:38:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BEcpme025714; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:38:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5BEbhM7025705; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:37:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:37:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jon Radel In-Reply-To: <484FD7F2.7090308@radel.com> Message-ID: <20080611163520.W25691@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080610171600.R76827@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484EA302.4070104@radel.com> <20080611000612.H13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484EFBBE.8030502@radel.com> <20080611001613.Y13017@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484F1C45.1050406@ibctech.ca> <20080611101951.V58163@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484FD7F2.7090308@radel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Steve Bertrand , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:40:04 -0000 > $ dig @bilbo.nask.org.pl tensor.gdynia.pl ns so something is broken with my registrar. as other dns'es reports only 2 nameservers. host -t ns tensor.gdynia.pl dns.task.gda.pl reports 2 of them, and dns.task.gda.pl is main dns for gdynia.pl thank you for finally explaining things From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 14:44:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A482106566B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:44:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E238FC14 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:44:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BEhtQF025750; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:43:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5BEhrId025747; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:43:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:43:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Brian In-Reply-To: <484FD7AA.10505@brianwhalen.net> Message-ID: <20080611164259.Q25711@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> <484FB168.1070900@otenet.gr> <20080611150528.D18715@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484FD7AA.10505@brianwhalen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Heikki Suonsivu , Manolis Kiagias , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:44:05 -0000 > To the OP, if you go ahead with trying to use this 486 or older hw, consider > the effort of maintaining the system. maintaning? while running netbsd 1.5, my routers don't need any maintaining. they just works. what maintaining? just make your config so logs won't fill the disk. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 14:45:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD50F106567D for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543748FC20 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:45:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6Ra3-0006q8-IT; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:45:43 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m5BEjfa3019181; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:45:43 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 183F9FCABAF; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:45:14 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:45:14 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Brian Astill Message-ID: <20080611144514.GB1538@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Brian Astill , "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1213141399.6749.19.camel@steve-laptop> <359a3c580806101950o63360bc7l454dbff436437039@mail.gmail.com> <200806102135.47624.mgb-ubuntu@yosemite.net> <200806111942.28491.bastill@adam.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200806111942.28491.bastill@adam.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:45:43 +0100 (BST) Cc: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Similar Experience/Forget Hardy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:45:47 -0000 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 07:42:27PM +0930, Brian Astill wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:05:47 pm Mike Bird wrote: > > > > All we need is stable unadulterated versions of most packages, > > a real binary package manager (sorry Gentoo and Slackware), and > > a recent kernel and graphics support.  Compared to Ubuntu that > > would be a lot more value for a lot less effort.  If anyone > > knows of a distro like this I really want to hear about it. > > Mike Bird for President! Yeh! > I guess that imaginary distro is exactly what I want. > (thinks .... ) Would v7 of FreeBSD qualify? Well it's got a recent kernel, it's got Xorg 7.3 and it's got binary package management but it hasn't got Adobe Flash ATM. An Ubuntu user would be better pointed at PC-BSD or DesktopBSD. They aim at ease of use: http://www.pcbsd.org/ http://www.desktopbsd.net/ IIRC they use the 6.3 kernel (which is currently supported & pretty much as recent as 7.0) and they use KDE rather than Gnome. They also have support forums aimed at new users, the FreeBSD mailing lists tend to be more technical. I can't comment as to how good either is as I've used neither but they've had positive write-ups. I use FreeBSD 7.0 on my workstation & 6.3 on my server so I know the underlying system is sound. > -- > Regards, > Brian HTH. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 14:47:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB2A106567E for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:47:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4232A8FC1A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BElDrO025787; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:47:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5BElBfc025784; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:47:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:47:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com" In-Reply-To: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080611164612.T25711@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:47:18 -0000 > tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or another > linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. > > My questions are: > 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW, > wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important. not sure about display card. but everything else should be OK. it's IBM/Lenovo :) > 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary > Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial > softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary > compatibility stable enough for work ? works at least for acrobat reader completely. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 15:14:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF341065673 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:14:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3787F8FC19 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:14:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6S1T-0000Ld-VC; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:14:03 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m5BFE240028806; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:14:02 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B3495FCABAF; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:13:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:13:34 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Heikki Suonsivu Message-ID: <20080611151334.GC1538@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Heikki Suonsivu , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> <484FB168.1070900@otenet.gr> <484FDBF9.7010700@wlansystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <484FDBF9.7010700@wlansystems.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:14:02 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:14:05 -0000 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 05:06:49PM +0300, Heikki Suonsivu wrote: > > Oops, sorry, I was not specific enough: > > FreeBSD 4 or older NetBSD are no go: > > The computer I am doing this is not old, it is otherwise brand new, but > it uses an embedded cpu, a 486 clone as SoC without math. See > www.compactpc.com.tw, eBOX 2300SX. It is very low cost, runs on about > 3W of power with CF card as mass memory, 128M, 3 USB2, serials, sound, > etc, it has VESA form factor so you can attach it behind many LCD > displays, etc. They have beefier models, but this one is cheapest and > uses least power, latter of which is the more critical requirement for us. > > We would like to use it for certain control applications. Linux works, > has been tested, but requires patches (turn math emulation on, add > support for built-in ethernet, bug workaround). I don't know if this machine is going to be sited on an insecure network or not. If it is, then you'll probably be using ssh. Without a math co-proc to do the crypto, it will be horrendous. I don't even know if ssh would work with an architecture without a maths unit. If it can't work with ssh, then you might be restricting your market. I think you are punishing yourself unneccesarily by going with a processor without maths. You restrict the software (both OS & application) you can run. > > The problem with is that while FreeBSD 4 seemed to boot on it, it did > not recognize any peripherals as they are new. Old OS's are not really > what we want, this is not one-off but volume product, it will be > internet-connected so we need bugfixes and we need support for latest > chipsets on 802.11 cards etc. > > There is another similar CPU, even slower and less power consuming, I do > not remember the part number, I think it was about 100 MHz 486 without > math as well. This was some manufacturer of microcontrollers. Can't you find a manufacturer that makes something similar with a DX instead? Or can you email this company and ask them how much it would cost to run off X units with a 486DX rather than SX? > > Heikki -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 15:22:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBAA1065678 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:22:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5197B8FC1F for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:22:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1K6S9w-0001tw-64 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:22:52 +0100 Received: from mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.184.33]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1K6S9v-0003IB-Ng for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:22:47 +0100 Received: from mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BFMlnE024423 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:22:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m5BFMluQ024422 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:22:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:22:47 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080611152247.GA24393@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080609143300.GA37436@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080609143300.GA37436@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Subject: Re: prevent overwriting custom make options in ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:22:53 -0000 On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 03:33:01PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I use ports/lang/gcc42. > I set WITHOUT_JAVA=yes in the Makefile. > However, with each tree update this option is > overwritten, so I have to edit the Makefile > each time I update the port. > > What is the best way to preserve my custom setting, > add an environment variable? Roland, Tijl, many thanks Somehow I missed you answers in the mailing list, only now picked them on google groups. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 15:28:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028EE106564A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:28:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from entwistle.sonicboom.org (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D668FC1C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:28:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cele.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.172]) by entwistle.sonicboom.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BFSSgW001010 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:28:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Message-ID: <484FEF3F.8080007@brianwhalen.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:29:03 -0700 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> <484FB168.1070900@otenet.gr> <20080611150528.D18715@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484FD7AA.10505@brianwhalen.net> <20080611164259.Q25711@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080611164259.Q25711@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:28:37 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> To the OP, if you go ahead with trying to use this 486 or older hw, >> consider the effort of maintaining the system. > > maintaning? while running netbsd 1.5, my routers don't need any > maintaining. they just works. what maintaining? just make your config > so logs won't fill the disk. security patches, port updates? Any OS will probably require at least some of this. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 15:35:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B79106567F for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:35:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548558FC12 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:35:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m5BFZ3o1005897; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:35:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jon Radel" Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:36:05 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <484FCFEF.5000109@radel.com> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:35:05 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Radel [mailto:jon@radel.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 6:15 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Wojciech Puchar; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests > > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jon Radel > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:02 PM > >> To: Wojciech Puchar > >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests > >> > > > >> Nameservers are hitting an address of yours. Therefore something is > >> probably handing out your address. Somebody (that would be me) has > >> looked up the address in question and even looked up the nameserver > >> which is handing out that address in a glue record. > > > > A simple problem EASILY solved. > > > > Why bother the owner of the misconfigured nameserver? > > > > Instead, simply insert a wildcard record to your namesever > > that hands out the IP number of the nastiest porno site you > > can find to any DNS query. > > > > After a few days the owners of the misconfigured nameservers > > or clients will go hunting for whatever is poisoning their cache. > > > > Problem solved. > > > > Ted > > Silly me, I've always believed that people setup nameservers because > they want their resources to be found. Having one the parents of your > zone point to a random machine of yours, It seemed that the OP's claim was that he had NOT asked the parents of his domain to point any nameserving to his machine. It used to be that people would at times use random nameservers on the Internet that they discovered, rather than using their own ISP's nameserver. The advent of IP-based filtering for BIND which allows you to specify only non-recursive queries to be answered from IP blocks that are not your own, pretty much put a stop to that. But for whatever reason, sometimes you can't employ IP-based filtering, and you have to setup a nameserver to answer recursive queries from anyone, even though you may still only want the world to be making non-recursive queries to it. The suggestion to use wildcards to issue bogus responses is the general suggestion to "convince" goofballs on the Internet that happen to come across your recursive-query-responding nameserver that you do not want them to use to make recursive queries, to go elsewhere. Obviously if you intentionally are listing your nameserver in a parent zone, and you employ this trick, you will need to setup a new nameserver on a different IP and change the parent zone. I figured though, that anyone who knew what they were doing would have grasped that concept, however. > which you then use to serve > crap records, strikes me as somewhat counterproductive. And I really > fail to see why whomever runs the parent zone would even notice. The OP claimed that he was getting an excessive number of DNS requests, implying that his parent was redirecting a lot of queries to him that he wasn't supposed to get. If his parent is doing that because they misconfigured their own nameserver, then anyone depending on their nameserver will get crap records back, and likely complain. I think the issue is that you are assuming his parent zone admins are doing the Correct Thing when they have configured their own nameservers. The OP was insistent that his parent zone admins were doing the Wrong Thing when they configured their own nameservers. Thus, my suggestion is essentially telling the OP that if he is so insistent that his parents are screwed up, then he can put his money where his mouth is and wildcard a porno site. As we saw by his response to my suggestion, when the OP was challenged to do this, he rapidly backwatered. Since backwatering he no longer can claim (at least on this list) that his parent admins are idiots, and thus I assume is now open to examining his own config a bit more closely. (which is what you were telling him to do all along) Sometimes if you want the horse to drink, you have to let them run in the opposite direction of the pond. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 15:38:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22274106568B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A50C8FC39 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:38:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BFcE4A029673; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:38:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5BFcDJS029666; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:38:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:38:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Brian In-Reply-To: <484FEF3F.8080007@brianwhalen.net> Message-ID: <20080611173602.W28688@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> <484FB168.1070900@otenet.gr> <20080611150528.D18715@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484FD7AA.10505@brianwhalen.net> <20080611164259.Q25711@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484FEF3F.8080007@brianwhalen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:38:27 -0000 >> maintaning? while running netbsd 1.5, my routers don't need any >> maintaining. they just works. what maintaining? just make your config so >> logs won't fill the disk. > security patches, port updates? Any OS will probably require at least some > of this. for router - not much :) there are for sure some security flawed programs on them, but what's a problem. every IP except some listed numbers are just blocked, dns server is cache-only with queries disabled from outside (and by netbsd's ipf to make sure), no outside-reachable services are running. that's about security :) about patches - why to patch fully WORKING thing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 15:39:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A1F106564A; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:39:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jack@jarasoft.net) Received: from raats.xs4all.nl (raats.xs4all.nl [82.95.230.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3818FC1C; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:39:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jack@jarasoft.net) Received: from raats.xs4all.nl (localhost.jarasoft.net [127.0.0.1]) by raats.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB3F16A566; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:28:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jara3 (unknown [192.168.1.101]) by raats.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4856C16A477; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:28:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <087EAA726CFA4573BF9B39E69A5F3AE8@jarasoft.net> From: "Jack Raats" To: "freebsd-stable" , Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:28:26 +0200 Organization: JaRaSoft, Steenbergen, Nederland MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 X-Signed-With-GnuPG: GPGrelay Version 0.959 (Win32) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: Subject: FreeBSD 7 and Apache 1.3.41 PROBLEM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jack Raats List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:39:20 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On a server I was running FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE together with = apache 1.3.41 without any problem. After upgrading FreeBSD to FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE using a source = upgrade, compiling, and a full recompile of all the ports = apache refuses to start, or starts and exits with a .core dump. In httpd-error.log [Wed Jun 11 17:01:04 2008] [info] mod_unique_id: using ip addr = 10.10.10.10 [Wed Jun 11 17:01:05 2008] [info] (2)No such file or directory:= make_sock: for port 80, setsockopt: (SO_ACCEPTFILTER) [Wed Jun 11 17:01:05 2008] [warn] pid file /var/run/httpd.pid = overwritten -- Unclean shutdown of previous Apache run? After hashing out #LoadModule unique_id_module libexec/apache/mod_unique_id.so #AddModule mod_unique_id.c Apache starts normally Can anyone explain this? Jack -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.959 iD8DBQFIT+8bPh5RwW/NzC4RAn9aAKCVKIvHFmFzpeaveqvHYbXjIRrhuACg0vxr f5f3FDGYigHPRaqGz+ZkDok=3D =3DTZvG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 15:55:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5FB1065675 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:55:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from camiloreyes82@yahoo.com) Received: from web63912.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web63912.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.97.127]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C6E138FC23 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from camiloreyes82@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 89237 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jun 2008 15:55:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=zHOikbwNkfgNS+zNXZWWqr31pVNLl6TODRgBH68375+1q+OsecIJEoCIIfAD/e+P8wJP/vPqieTMRiRiWjpPqAYZVt9HQ56bgcwVMk1IHRuRbQM6nWTYKi/xNXWKRRJqUGPef7V+6xbKj/5sBHhnHu6YvAKGhtDoR/540RrXoX4=; Received: from [146.23.68.23] by web63912.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:55:49 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:55:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Camilo Reyes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080611144010.B114710656E7@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <683720.84493.qm@web63912.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Cc: jon@radel.com Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests Was: Re: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: camiloreyes82@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:55:51 -0000 Nothing impersonal; just trying to help. I'm a big advocate of getting rid of things you don't need to keep things simple. Sorry that wasn't the answer you were looking for... Camilo "Bono Vince Malum" > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:13:47 -0400 > From: Jon Radel > Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests Was: Re: > freebsd-questions > Digest, Vol 219, Issue 6 > To: camiloreyes82@yahoo.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <484FDD9B.5050706@radel.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Camilo Reyes wrote: > > The easiest way to deal with this is to disable IPv6 > on your kernel. > > There is a good guide here: > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html. > > > > Simply comment out the 'options INET6' line > from your config file. Also, > > you could give more information on what application is > generating those > > logs. For example, what services are you running? Is > this setup as a > > server? And things of that sort. > > Disabling things so the log messages stop and you can > pretend all the > brokenness has magically gone away is indeed the easiest > solution > sometimes. It's rarely a good one, particularly for > the long term. > Anyway, the OP actually uses IPv6 on his network, so this > is pretty much > akin to suggesting that he turn off his computer to keep > people from > bothering it. > > The log messages are from his DNS server; he uses it for > resolving and > some local stuff; the log entries are the result of queries > from random > machines being rejected; random machines are doing that > since at least > one of his parent nameservers is handing out the IPv6 > address of his > server against his wishes; eventually he'll realize > this is actually the > case; and maybe he'll be able to convince whomever runs > the parent > nameserver(s) to update the records for his zone. (Just to > cover the > rest of your questions. :-) > > --Jon Radel > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: smime.p7s > Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature > Size: 3283 bytes > Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature > Url : > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/attachments/20080611/86e3c1cf/smime-0001.bin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 16:04:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446B31065672 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22A88FC1A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:04:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 7680332; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:04:04 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 7680329; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:03:54 -0400 Message-ID: <484FF76A.6080501@radel.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:03:54 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms090401000806000604030500" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:04:05 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090401000806000604030500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jon Radel [mailto:jon@radel.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 6:15 AM >> To: Ted Mittelstaedt >> Cc: Wojciech Puchar; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests >> >> >> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jon Radel >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:02 PM >>>> To: Wojciech Puchar >>>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>> Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests >>>> >>>> Nameservers are hitting an address of yours. Therefore something is >>>> probably handing out your address. Somebody (that would be me) has >>>> looked up the address in question and even looked up the nameserver >>>> which is handing out that address in a glue record. >>> A simple problem EASILY solved. >>> >>> Why bother the owner of the misconfigured nameserver? >>> >>> Instead, simply insert a wildcard record to your namesever >>> that hands out the IP number of the nastiest porno site you >>> can find to any DNS query. >>> >>> After a few days the owners of the misconfigured nameservers >>> or clients will go hunting for whatever is poisoning their cache. >>> >>> Problem solved. >>> >>> Ted >> Silly me, I've always believed that people setup nameservers because >> they want their resources to be found. Having one the parents of your >> zone point to a random machine of yours, > > It seemed that the OP's claim was that he had NOT asked the > parents of his domain to point any nameserving to his machine. Yes. And I pointed out that he was WRONG, including in the message you responded to. I went so far as to send dig output showing the glue record that was causing his grief. > > It used to be that people would at times use random nameservers > on the Internet that they discovered, rather than using their > own ISP's nameserver. The advent of IP-based filtering for > BIND which allows you to specify only non-recursive queries to > be answered from IP blocks that are not your own, pretty much put > a stop to that. But for whatever reason, sometimes you can't > employ IP-based filtering, and you have to setup a nameserver > to answer recursive queries from anyone, even though you may > still only want the world to be making non-recursive queries > to it. True, but quite beside the point. Anyway, those pesky people would quickly leave a server that denied all their requests alone, and if you'd actually read what the OP posted, you'd have noticed the "denied" at the end of every line from his logs that he found so disturbing. > > The suggestion to use wildcards to issue bogus responses is > the general suggestion to "convince" goofballs on the Internet > that happen to come across your recursive-query-responding > nameserver that you do not want them to use to make recursive > queries, to go elsewhere. > Understood, true, but quite beside the point. > Obviously if you intentionally are listing your nameserver in > a parent zone, and you employ this trick, you will need to > setup a new nameserver on a different IP and change the parent > zone. > > I figured though, that anyone who knew what they were doing > would have grasped that concept, however. > You'd think, wouldn't you? >> which you then use to serve >> crap records, strikes me as somewhat counterproductive. And I really >> fail to see why whomever runs the parent zone would even notice. > > The OP claimed that he was getting an excessive number of > DNS requests, implying that his parent was redirecting a lot > of queries to him that he wasn't supposed to get. If his > parent is doing that because they misconfigured their own nameserver, > then anyone depending on their nameserver will get crap records > back, and likely complain. > He made no such claim at any time (at least in any e-mail that reached me privately or via the list). He was confused as to why random machines where hitting his closed nameserver at all. Do you honestly think lots of people are going to gang up on whomever runs his parent zone when they stop getting mail from the OP? Those that noticed would probably sigh a little sigh of relief that they'd no longer have to see the OP and me fussing at each other. > I think the issue is that you are assuming his parent zone > admins are doing the Correct Thing when they have configured > their own nameservers. The OP was insistent that his parent > zone admins were doing the Wrong Thing when they configured > their own nameservers. Thus, my suggestion is essentially telling > the OP that if he is so insistent that his parents are screwed > up, then he can put his money where his mouth is and wildcard > a porno site. Wow. You really have problems with reading comprehension, don't you? You have that more or less backwards. > > As we saw by his response to my suggestion, when the OP was > challenged to do this, he rapidly backwatered. Since backwatering > he no longer can claim (at least on this list) that his parent > admins are idiots, and thus I assume is now open to examining > his own config a bit more closely. (which is what you were > telling him to do all along) No, I was pointing him to the parent which was handing out the glue record with the address he kept claiming couldn't possibly be being made public by anybody. I have no reason to suspect a problem with his configs and never said or hinted at such a thing in any way. > > Sometimes if you want the horse to drink, you have to let them > run in the opposite direction of the pond. Giggle. OK, folks, I promise, given that this has sunk well into chat territory, I'm done responding on the list on this topic. I was sucked in originally by the OP posting my DNS server's IP address in a query, and it appears that the OP has finally taken the time to grasp the answer I kept giving him, so I'm going to move on. 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owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 16:14:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2401065670 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7338FC19 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5BGEbho056097; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:14:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BA7FDBA8F; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:14:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:14:36 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Zbigniew Szalbot Message-ID: <20080611161436.GA9276@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: generating random passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:14:39 -0000 --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 09:20:30AM +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hello, >=20 > Excuse me my ignorance. Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would allow=20 > me to generate random passwords without actually creating any accounts=20 > or modifying existing ones? I am looking for something to allow me to=20 > generate a random string of characters. I know I can randomly hit the=20 > keyboard but if anything like that exists, many thanks for your advice. :) Using FreeBSD's random device: tcsh syntax: ( dd if=3D/dev/random bs=3D6 count=3D1 | openssl base64 > /dev/tty ) > & /d= ev/null sh syntax: dd if=3D/dev/random bs=3D6 count=3D1 2>/dev/null| openssl base64 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhP+ewACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVuzgCgq2FbUCl9h+r9YgfbLATCWUoZ /aIAn2MDW/U2r9jf1OyHNgYUt2tIdRH/ =xmTx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 16:32:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F95C106564A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:32:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EE08FC1C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:32:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [213.142.183.219] (helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K6TFY-0004aP-Ow; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:32:40 +0200 Message-ID: <484FFE1C.9000704@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:32:28 +0200 From: Pietro Cerutti Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080610) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> <20080611164612.T25711@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080611164612.T25711@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://gahr.ch/pgp/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - FreeBSD.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: "fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:32:51 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Wojciech Puchar wrote: |> tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or |> another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. |> |> My questions are: |> 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, |> CDRW/DVDRW, wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most |> important. | | not sure about display card. but everything else should be OK. it's | IBM/Lenovo :) nVIDIA drivers should support it: http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_100.14.09.html | |> 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux |> Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many |> commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux |> binary compatibility stable enough for work ? Linux emulation is stable enough, I would say. I've used it to run Mathematica 5 in the past (see handbook). - -- Pietro Cerutti gahr@FreeBSD.org PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEAREKAAYFAkhP/hsACgkQwMJqmJVx944oCQCfQN+mHM2k7RbGnQ45HW8qs/U+ 9aQAoN9vDKMqI8DoZAG3tJaJ0YefjX6b =x7TD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 16:35:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BC11065677 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0788FC0A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:35:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854B66854F1C0; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:35:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id DnLbpifeAwVX; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 6910A6800E985; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:35:15 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080611163515.GA8032@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> <20080611161436.GA9276@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080611161436.GA9276@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Subject: Re: generating random passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:35:18 -0000 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008, Roland Smith wrote: >On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 09:20:30AM +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Excuse me my ignorance. Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would allow >> me to generate random passwords without actually creating any accounts >> or modifying existing ones? I am looking for something to allow me to >> generate a random string of characters. I know I can randomly hit the >> keyboard but if anything like that exists, many thanks for your advice. :) > >Using FreeBSD's random device: >tcsh syntax: >( dd if=/dev/random bs=6 count=1 | openssl base64 > /dev/tty ) > & /dev/null > >sh syntax: >dd if=/dev/random bs=6 count=1 2>/dev/null| openssl base64 I much prefer apg which can generate more-or-less pronounceable passwords which it is possible to remember (at least after typing them a few times :-). One of the biggest problems with random passwords is that they end up written on yellow-stickies on the monitor or under the keyboard. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 With Congress, every time they make a joke it's a law; and every time they make a law it's a joke. -- Will Rogers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 16:36:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD28106567F for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:36:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817B88FC0A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:36:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m5BGaO3A062522; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:36:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m5BGaOa3062521; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:36:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:36:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200806111636.m5BGaOa3062521@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, The Ghost In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:36:25 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: very strange reaction of the md disks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, The Ghost List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:36:27 -0000 Hello, I don't know why nobody else has given the correct answer to this (it's should actually be a FAQ). So I'll try to give an answer. The Ghost wrote: > Hello, > > Maybe I just don't understand something, but anyway, it looks really odd. > > I have a machine with 2 Gb RAM with a clean newly-installed > FREEBSD-7.0-RELEASE. I make two 300-MB mdconfig disks and populate > them, and when the first one was already full and the second one is > only half-full, I get a kernel panic "not enough memory". Use "-t swap" with mdconfig(8), not "-t malloc". > [...] > I was very surprised to see that one gigabyte of my > memory suddenly became used up. FreeBSD uses all memory for caching, as far as possible. Free memory is wasted memory. > A friend of mine told me that such a panic is really a thing to write > a bugreport on it, No. It is clearly documented in the mdconfig(8) manpage: "If the -o reserve option is not set, creating and filling a large malloc-backed memory disk is a very easy way to panic a system." As I said above, you probably don't want a malloc-backed memory disk (which means it consumes non-pagable kernel memory), but a swap-backed disk (which is cached in regular RAM and backed by swap). If you're absolutely sure you want kernel-malloc for your memory disk, you need to increase the kmem limit (see "sysctl vm | grep kmem"). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "To this day, many C programmers believe that 'strong typing' just means pounding extra hard on the keyboard." -- Peter van der Linden From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 16:37:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72035106566C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:37:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2839C8FC19 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:37:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [213.142.183.219] (helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K6TJq-0005FX-0O; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:37:06 +0200 Message-ID: <484FFF25.2070402@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:36:53 +0200 From: Pietro Cerutti Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080610) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> <20080611164612.T25711@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <484FFE1C.9000704@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <484FFE1C.9000704@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://gahr.ch/pgp/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - FreeBSD.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: "fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:37:13 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Pietro Cerutti wrote: | Wojciech Puchar wrote: | |> tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or | |> another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. | |> | |> My questions are: | |> 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, | |> CDRW/DVDRW, wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most | |> important. | | | | not sure about display card. but everything else should be OK. it's | | IBM/Lenovo :) | | nVIDIA drivers should support it: | | http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_100.14.09.html err, this is the most up to date :) http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_173.14.05.html | | | | |> 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux | |> Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many | |> commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux | |> binary compatibility stable enough for work ? | | Linux emulation is stable enough, I would say. I've used it to run | Mathematica 5 in the past (see handbook). | | _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" - -- Pietro Cerutti gahr@FreeBSD.org PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEAREKAAYFAkhP/yQACgkQwMJqmJVx947A5gCfQ79JCQT/Ms/NhUi5J7zsi/dd XKYAni1WDmassbnMg5H+Vj9xZPn87Dug =0Vzp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 16:37:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA1F1065681 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F338FC39 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78485352E6; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:37:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:37:40 +0200 From: cpghost To: dfeustel@mindspring.com Message-ID: <20080611183740.2dbf4315@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <20080611142930.C4CAB8FC12@mx1.freebsd.org> References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> <20080611142930.C4CAB8FC12@mx1.freebsd.org> Organization: Cordula's Web X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:37:44 -0000 On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:29:30 +0000 (UTC) dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:50:36PM +0800, fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com wrote: > > > > My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. > > I'm from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some > > googling and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to > > try FreeBSD. I am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just > > install FreeBSD or another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my > > notebook. > > > > If FreeBSD runs on your new T61, you can install the Maxima port as a > free alternative to MATLAB and Mathematica. Maxima does symbolic math > and handles tensors. You can run Maxima code that proves that > Einstein's theory of relativity has a far-reaching logical > inconsistancy in it because the theory assumes torsion = 0 and > curvature is nonzero. Non-zero curvature implies torsion also is > non-zero. See the code in paper 93 at > http://www.aias.us/index.php?goto=showPageByTitle&pageTitle=Unified_Field_Theory_papers Maxima is great! The following may also be quite useful: http://www.scipy.org/ http://code.google.com/p/sympy/ http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/ If you prefer an integrated environment, try: http://sagemath.org/ -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 16:55:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6671065675 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:55:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0106E8FC1E for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BGsvoS056228; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:54:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5BGsvcS056225; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:54:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:54:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Bill Campbell In-Reply-To: <20080611163515.GA8032@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Message-ID: <20080611185400.Y49857@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> <20080611161436.GA9276@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20080611163515.GA8032@ayn.mi.celestial.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: generating random passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:55:44 -0000 > > One of the biggest problems with random passwords is that they > end up written on yellow-stickies on the monitor or under the > keyboard. there is no cure for that in FreeBSD. you need some non-computer hardware to stop that behaviour ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 17:00:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9836B1065671 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:00:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4928FC12 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m5BGxxIC063928; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:59:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m5BGxwiv063927; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:59:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:59:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200806111659.m5BGxwiv063927@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stevefranks@ieee.org In-Reply-To: <447id4rlof.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:59:59 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: intrusion? find is thrashing my disk every time I boot. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:00:01 -0000 Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "Steve Franks" writes: > > I'm really no security expert. I don't leave the system up 24/7, and > > I'm on a US DSL connection with a bunch of windows boxes. > > > > Seems to be a recent phenomena, I've started experiencing disk > > thrashing I can hear across the room. ps and top report cvslockd has > > been responsible for the thrashing (which usually occurs at a specific > > time of day (~1 am MST)), but now, find is doing the thrashing at boot > > every time (within the last week at least). Needless to say, I > > haven't changed the system in any way during that week. On windows, > > I'd just assume this to be normal behavior, but on FreeBSD, it's got > > me worried... > > > > I presume the security section of the manual has a good into to > > detecting intruders, but first I'm interested if there is a legitimate > > reason for find to be torturing my disk. I don't run much on my > > system - apache, cvs, portsnap, ssh, that's about it. > > That's not really so little. I would tend to doubt it's a security > issue, but tracking it down is still a good idea. You should be able > to see what user is running the find, using ps(1), and that might give > a clue to what the purpose is (but probably not; it'll probably turn > out to be root). This script might be useful for that purpose: http://www.secnetix.de/olli/scripts/pidtrace Given the process ID of the "find" process on the command line, it will print its parent processes all the way up to init(8). That way you can easily find out if the "find" was started by a cron job, by an rc.d script, or something else. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd (On the statement print "42 monkeys" + "1 snake":) By the way, both perl and Python get this wrong. Perl gives 43 and Python gives "42 monkeys1 snake", when the answer is clearly "41 monkeys and 1 fat snake". -- Jim Fulton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 17:04:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996281065689 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:04:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D99A38FC36 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:04:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert.raimund@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Jun 2008 17:04:30 -0000 Received: from host-194126238033.net-serwis.pl (EHLO bobcat.edu) [194.126.238.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp050) with SMTP; 11 Jun 2008 19:04:30 +0200 X-Authenticated: #18511094 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/eLcgflSjeSQGylL0F9MN1oxm3BsPLBINwIz6e1G vSRmzAXJOeEYRz Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:10:57 +0200 From: herbert langhans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20080611191057.b91e25a7.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> Organization: private X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:04:32 -0000 The linux progs run very well, what I can tell with my modest amount of programs using this mode. BSD uses a seperate directory what contains all linux-bins and it integrates well. Also the speed is like a normal Linux distro. Maybe it is a good idea to get an old 20GB harddisk, change it and give it a try while leaving your old HD with your current installation intact? Cheers herbs > 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary > Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial > softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary > compatibility stable enough for work ? > > Thanks a lot. > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- ******* Herbert Langhans, Warschau ******* Sprachtraining Langhans ******* http://www.langhans.com.pl ******* herbert at langhans.com.pl ******* NIP 526-229-61-51 ******* Regon 014911759 ******* Tel. 603 341 441 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 17:07:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BFF106564A; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2108FC12; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:07:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BH6u7O060947; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:06:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5BH6tF9060944; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:06:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:06:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jack Raats In-Reply-To: <087EAA726CFA4573BF9B39E69A5F3AE8@jarasoft.net> Message-ID: <20080611190609.H60134@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <087EAA726CFA4573BF9B39E69A5F3AE8@jarasoft.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7 and Apache 1.3.41 PROBLEM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:07:16 -0000 > In httpd-error.log > [Wed Jun 11 17:01:04 2008] [info] mod_unique_id: using ip addr 10.10.10.10 > [Wed Jun 11 17:01:05 2008] [info] (2)No such file or directory: make_sock: for port 80, setsockopt: (SO_ACCEPTFILTER) > [Wed Jun 11 17:01:05 2008] [warn] pid file /var/run/httpd.pid overwritten -- Unclean shutdown of previous Apache run? > > After hashing out > #LoadModule unique_id_module libexec/apache/mod_unique_id.so > #AddModule mod_unique_id.c > > Apache starts normally > > Can anyone explain this? are you sure you use the same apache version as with 6.*? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 17:09:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3661065675 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:09:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3828FC1C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:09:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m5BH9g12064403; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:09:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m5BH9g7K064402; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:09:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:09:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200806111709.m5BH9g7K064402@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, parish@magichamster.com In-Reply-To: <20080604232434.GA5456@osiris.chen.org.nz> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:09:42 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Effects of CPUTYPE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, parish@magichamster.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:09:44 -0000 Jonathan Chen wrote: > Mark Ovens wrote: > > Trying to identify why I should be having all these problems I've been > > looking for anything that may be specific to my machine. One thing I've > > come up with is the fact that I have CPUTYPE?=athlon-mp in > > /etc/make.conf on both 6.3 and 7.0. > > In my personal opinion, the small gain you get is more than > overwhelmed by the big pain you get from setting CPUTYPE. I'm setting CPUTYPE on all of my machines for many years, without the slightest problems. No pain at all. They're all kinds of different processors, c3-2 (VIA), athlon64, and so on. In some cases the difference is very noticable. Having said that, it's certainly worth trying whether your problems are gone when you compile without that setting. Do you have any other unusual settings, such as non-standard CFLAGS or anything? BTW, I once was bitten by a similar problem, when building software failed in strange ways, it turned out I had a bad variable in my environment that was picked up by some build scripts. Maybe it's worth a try to run your ports builds with a clean environment ("env -"), or try to install binary packages instead of building ports yourself, in order to narrow down where the problem is. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "Python tricks" is a tough one, cuz the language is so clean. E.g., C makes an art of confusing pointers with arrays and strings, which leads to lotsa neat pointer tricks; APL mistakes everything for an array, leading to neat one-liners; and Perl confuses everything period, making each line a joyous adventure . -- Tim Peters From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 17:12:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5D51065675 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:12:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F01D8FC2B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:12:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BHCPhm040829; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:12:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.0.137] (p188ds3inxs.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca [67.43.135.189]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BHCOdW085478; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:12:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4850076B.2010804@sentex.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:12:11 -0400 From: Andrew Berry User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/7040/Mon May 5 21:52:15 2008 clamav-milter version 0.93 on clamscanner2 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 205.211.164.50 Cc: Paul Schmehl , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:12:29 -0000 Ian Smith wrote: > However, what normally happens to attachments to questions@, at least to > digests, is that they get stripped with a note pointing to the original > attachment, as this subsequent message from Chad illustrates: > Which makes sense - attachments don't clog up the list, and people can download them if they want. What I think is happening is that the attachment is being stripped, and Outlook is looking for it since it can be inferred that it exists from the MIME type. Of course, the error should be that the message can't be authenticated (That's what Mail does, and it's just a line, not a modal dialog), and have nothing to do with the recipient needing a certificate. But I think it's more general, as a PGP signature (which is no different from any other attachment) also caused Bob the error. I wonder if *any* scrubbed attachment will cause a problem? I just had to set up another system as my macbook's network card has died, so I'll send a signed message with Thunderbird in a minute to see if it also causes the error. Bob, if it still causes an error, you should seriously look at changing to a mail client which won't cause you these problems, since you can't control what users on mailing lists send you :). --Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 17:13:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7697D1065684 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6038FC18 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BHDt3U041104; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:13:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.0.137] 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Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Static NAT and PAT on FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:17:13 -0000 I have continued to experiment and am still running into the same issues. Anyone? -Matt On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Matt Brennan wrote: > Hi All, > > I am running FreeBSD 6.2-release. I have been running PAT via natd > and ipfw for some time now and it runs great. However, I continue to > try and employ static NAT on this router, and as soon as I do so all > other clients lose routing. My natd.conf is as below: > > unregistered_only > use_sockets > log_ipfw_denied > redirect_address 10.100.1.2 66.92.79.20 > alias_address 66.92.79.89 > > Whenever I run with this configuration all clients except the > static'ed one lose routing out of the building. I have tried switching > the order of the alias_address and redirect_address. > > Any help is appreciated. > > -Matt > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 17:30:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39474106567B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:30:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38F78FC1B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:30:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BGsnr4036307; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:54:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.0.137] (p188ds3inxs.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca [67.43.135.189]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BGsmKv064514; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:54:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4850034B.607@sentex.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:54:35 -0400 From: Andrew Berry User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?windows-1252?Q?Nejc_=8Akoberne?= References: <4AF0C677-6628-49A6-BDD8-F5620CBF05F1@sentex.net> <484D895A.4050300@skoberne.net> <484E26FD.4080605@skoberne.net> In-Reply-To: <484E26FD.4080605@skoberne.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/7040/Mon May 5 21:52:15 2008 clamav-milter version 0.93 on clamscanner1 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 205.211.164.50 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Openvpn on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:30:14 -0000 On 10-Jun-08, at 3:02 AM, Nejc Škoberne wrote: > Actually I don't think you can do the same thing with a tunnel. You have > to use a different IP addresses for the tunnel itself. Have you read the > OpenVPN manual? Yes, I should have been clearer: With a tunnel, I can still push routes and DNS, as long as I'm willing to sacrifice the same IP address. >> Yes, I did: 'tcpdump -i tun0'. Nothing shows up on the server, but on >> the client (OS X) I can see the pings being sent. > This means that there is a problem with the OpenVPN connection. Can > you show > the tail of your logs on both sides? Here's what I found: Wed Jun 11 12:49:46 2008 client1/192.168.0.1:53237 MULTI: Learn: 10.8.0.6 -> client1/192.168.0.1:53237 Wed Jun 11 12:49:46 2008 client1/192.168.0.1:53237 MULTI: primary virtual IP for client1/192.168.0.1:53237: 10.8.0.6 This was interesting since that IP wasn't being set by the client. I'd been manually setting it to 10.8.0.2, which caused this: Wed Jun 11 12:50:04 2008 client1/192.168.0.1:53237 MULTI: bad source address from client [10.8.0.2], packet dropped Wed Jun 11 12:50:05 2008 client1/192.168.0.1:53237 MULTI: bad source address from client [10.8.0.2], packet dropped Wed Jun 11 12:50:06 2008 client1/192.168.0.1:53237 MULTI: bad source address from client [10.8.0.2], packet dropped Wed Jun 11 12:50:07 2008 client1/192.168.0.1:53237 MULTI: bad source address from client [10.8.0.2], packet dropped Changing it to 10.8.0.6 allowed the VPN to work over the tunnel. I could access the VPN server on .1. Bridging still doesn't work - and I don't see any traffic over the interface either. Unfortunately, my laptop's network card just kicked the dust so it's going in for servicing. I might test it out using the Windows client on my desktop, but since it's inside the network all ready I imagine it would be much harder to test. >> proto tcp > > Why are you using TCP anyway? I'd been having problems with UDP and QoS a long time ago. I just hadn't bothered to change it since it was working. Thanks, --Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 17:33:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C521065682 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938778FC21 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BHXDLJ045880; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:33:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.0.137] (p188ds3inxs.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca [67.43.135.189]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BHXCow011581; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:33:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Message-ID: <48500C4B.3060703@sentex.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:32:59 -0400 From: Andrew Berry User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Heikki Suonsivu References: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> <484FB168.1070900@otenet.gr> <484FDBF9.7010700@wlansystems.com> In-Reply-To: <484FDBF9.7010700@wlansystems.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/7040/Mon May 5 21:52:15 2008 clamav-milter version 0.93 on clamscanner1 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 205.211.164.50 Cc: Manolis Kiagias , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:33:36 -0000 Heikki Suonsivu wrote: > The computer I am doing this is not old, it is otherwise brand new, > but it uses an embedded cpu, a 486 clone as SoC without math. See > www.compactpc.com.tw, eBOX 2300SX. It is very low cost, runs on about > 3W of power with CF card as mass memory, 128M, 3 USB2, serials, sound, > etc, it has VESA form factor so you can attach it behind many LCD > displays, etc. They have beefier models, but this one is cheapest and > uses least power, latter of which is the more critical requirement for > us. That's a neat system. Are there any retailers in North America which sell them individually? --Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 17:34:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E1401065676 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:34:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roam@ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 74299 invoked by uid 1000); 11 Jun 2008 17:33:58 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:33:57 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: Novembre Message-ID: <20080611173357.GB70741@straylight.m.ringlet.net> References: <3b47caa90806102209w5161d96cjdd41d55f0315429c@mail.gmail.com> <20080611054125.GA15965@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <20080611073108.GA1184@straylight.m.ringlet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="K8nIJk4ghYZn606h" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to determine the date a port is installed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:34:15 -0000 --K8nIJk4ghYZn606h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 01:40:19PM +0100, Florent Thoumie wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:41:25PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:09:33AM -0500, Novembre wrote: > >> > Two questions: > >> > 1) Is it possible to determine the date a port/package is installed? > >> > >> ls -ld /var/db/pkg/, use the mtime of the directory. > >> > >> > 2) How can I delete all the ports/packages installed after a certain= date? > >> > >> Use a combination of find with the -mtime flag, and pkg_delete. > > > > Not really. This is a bit dangerous. > > > > The dangerous part is "the mtime of the directory". It would be much > > better to use the mtime of the +CONTENTS file, since it never changes > > *after* the package has been installed. >=20 > It actually does if you're using portupgrade (and probably > portmaster), see the @pkgdep entries. >=20 > Use +DESC, +COMMENT or +MTREE_DIRS instead. Yep. Sorry. Any of those would be a better candidate. I'd simply forgotten about port management tools modifying the dependencies in-place. G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@cnsys.bg roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 Thit sentence is not self-referential because "thit" is not a word. --K8nIJk4ghYZn606h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhQDIUACgkQ7Ri2jRYZRVNGdgCdE8yb+RweUdUC1LIQlm5wKugQ bboAn0wbO/4xz4QVEfJp1Ldxov1TywY8 =DQ0b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --K8nIJk4ghYZn606h-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 17:44:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF1D106567F for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:44:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADA88FC1D for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:44:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BHi3MC067736; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:44:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080611123741.0341e498@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:43:42 -0500 To: jonathan michaels , freebsd questions From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <20080611213645.07247@caamora.com.au> References: <20080611213645.07247@caamora.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/6806/Wed Apr 16 15:50:16 2008 on betty.computinginnovations.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: m5BHi3MC067736 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: sendmail: stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:44:37 -0000 At 06:36 AM 6/11/2008, jonathan michaels wrote: >greetings all, > >firstly, i am not subscribed, please cc: responces, appreciated. > >i have been using freebsd v2.2.5-release (as my domains mx host >on a 486dx33 .. that was upgraded after 20 years running with 6 >years on v2.2.5 to a p5-133 mhz into which i moved teh whole scsi >harddisk ssubsystem (card and drives) ther it ran v 2.2.5-r >faultlessly untill last january when i cleaned of teh hard >drives reformated averything and installed freebsd v6.2-release >!! > >than after a few weeks of settling down and setting up every >thing worked well, as expected, then the sendmail nightmares >started ... basically the system could not send mail anywhere >!!! > >cutting long story short, it was basically my having to relearn >teh whole universe .. there were more differences than i had >planned for and it was an uphill battle relearning essentially >everything i had learned about freebsd over th previous ten >years. > >about 3 weeks ago things started to make sence, herebouts, >slowly it is clearing up, as i started to understand sendmail >and getting teh configurations right .. most of teh poorly >configured hosts i've now cleaned up and are working properly, >but, one ... > >i have now got one left and like teh linux chappie who i found >on google who had a similar "out of teh blue experience" like >mine, (about 2003) one day sendmail worked then teh veyr next it was >defereing everytingh .. just like here. this chappie had >replaced his nic, i've not done angthiny like that hppen here, >the machine is the machine and no hardware has been changed ?? > >i donot understand what is going on here .. i've included all >teh differnt bits in teh maillog file > >here is teh /var/log/maillog exerpt > >Jun 9 00:00:00 reality newsyslog[15991]: logfile turned over > >Jun 9 03:01:05 reality sendmail[16485]: grew WorkList for >/var/spool/clientmqueue to 2000 >Jun 9 03:06:36 reality sendmail[17417]: m58H6aGk017417: from=root, >size=12938, class=0, nrcpts=1, >msgid=<200806081706.m58H6aGk017417@reality.caamora.com.au>, >relay=root@localhost >Jun 9 03:06:36 reality sendmail[17417]: m58H6aGk017417: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=42938, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't >assign requested address >Jun 9 03:06:40 reality sendmail[17475]: m58H6dJG017475: from=root, >size=137243, class=0, nrcpts=1, >msgid=<200806081706.m58H6dJG017475@reality.caamora.com.au>, >relay=root@localhost >Jun 9 03:06:40 reality sendmail[17475]: m58H6dJG017475: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=167243, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't >assign requested address > >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: grew WorkList for >/var/spool/clientmqueue to 2000 >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m58H6aGk017417: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:13, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=132938, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't >assign requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m58H6dJG017475: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:10, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=257243, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m57LAP8l013868: to=root, >delay=19:56:24, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3644350, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m57LAP8m013868: to=root, >delay=19:56:24, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3768123, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m57H6qfr013304: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=23:59:57, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=4542984, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m57H6u1Q013363: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=23:59:53, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=4666757, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m56MMWd3009824: to=root, >delay=1+18:44:17, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=7861512, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m56LMVd3009703: to=root, >delay=1+19:44:17, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=8054226, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m56LMVd4009703: to=root, >delay=1+19:44:17, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=8177393, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m56ILDAU009315: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=1+22:45:36, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=8670146, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m56H6f3Y009045: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+00:00:08, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=8952860, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m56H6jhg009104: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+00:00:04, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=9076027, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m564qJd3006478: to=jlm, >delay=2+12:14:30, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=11111854, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m560pgSA005674: >to=jlm@caamora.com.au, ctladdr=jlm (1001/1001), delay=2+16:15:07, >xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=11920494, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, >stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m55LAINO005198: to=root, >delay=2+19:56:31, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=12571102, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m55LAINP005198: to=root, >delay=2+19:56:31, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=12676645, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m55H6mA6004634: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=3+00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=13469736, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m55H6rEw004692: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+23:59:56, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=13575279, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m550I5vr000621: to=postmaster, >delay=3+16:48:27, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=16413061, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m550I5tA000621: to=postmaster, >delay=3+16:48:34, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=16414081, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m550I5Bx000621: to=postmaster, >delay=3+16:47:51, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=16414249, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m550I54R000621: to=postmaster, >delay=3+16:48:08, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=16414653, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m550I5uH000621: to=postmaster, >delay=3+16:48:31, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=16414849, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m550I52r000621: to=postmaster, >delay=3+16:48:13, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=16416465, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address > >lots trimmmmmmed > >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: grew WorkList for >/var/spool/clientmqueue to 2000 >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m58H6aGk017417: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=03:04:07, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=762938, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't >assign requested address >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m58H6dJG017475: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=03:04:04, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=887243, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m57LAP8l013868: to=root, >delay=23:00:18, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=4274350, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m57LAP8m013868: to=root, >delay=23:00:18, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=4398123, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m57H6qfr013304: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=1+03:03:51, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=5172984, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m57H6u1Q013363: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=1+03:03:47, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=5296757, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m56MMWd3009824: to=root, >delay=1+21:48:11, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=8491512, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m56LMVd3009703: to=root, >delay=1+22:48:11, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=8684226, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m56LMVd4009703: to=root, >delay=1+22:48:11, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=8807393, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m56ILDAU009315: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+01:49:30, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=9300146, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m56H6f3Y009045: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+03:04:02, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=9582860, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m56H6jhg009104: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+03:03:58, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=9706027, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m564qJd3006478: to=jlm, >delay=2+15:18:24, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=11741854, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m560pgSA005674: >to=jlm@caamora.com.au, ctladdr=jlm (1001/1001), delay=2+19:19:01, >xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=12550494, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, >stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m55LAINO005198: to=root, >delay=2+23:00:25, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=13201102, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m55LAINP005198: to=root, >delay=2+23:00:25, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=13306645, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m55H6mA6004634: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=3+03:03:55, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=14099736, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m55H6rEw004692: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=3+03:03:50, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=14205279, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m550I5vr000621: >to=postmaster, delay=3+19:52:21, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=17043061, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address > >some 5 mb repetative log entries removed .. > >Jun 9 09:42:35 reality sm-msp-queue[622]: m550I50f000621: to=postmaster, >delay=3+23:24:05, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=17806561, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 09:42:35 reality sm-msp-queue[622]: m550I5vJ000621: to=postmaster, >delay=3+23:24:14, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=17807047, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 09:42:35 reality sm-msp-queue[622]: m550I5tL000621: to=postmaster, >delay=3+23:24:19, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=17807590, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: grew WorkList for >/var/spool/clientmqueue to 2000 >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m58LAi8l017980: to=root, >delay=03:01:40, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=584304, >relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m58LAi8m017980: to=root, >delay=03:01:40, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=708609, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m58H6aGk017417: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=07:05:48, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=1482938, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m58H6dJG017475: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=07:05:45, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=1607243, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m57LAP8l013868: to=root, >delay=1+03:01:59, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=4994350, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m57LAP8m013868: to=root, >delay=1+03:01:59, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=5118123, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m57H6qfr013304: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=1+07:05:32, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=5892984, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m57H6u1Q013363: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=1+07:05:28, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=6016757, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m56MMWd3009824: to=root, >delay=2+01:49:52, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=9211512, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m56LMVd3009703: to=root, >delay=2+02:49:52, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=9404226, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m56LMVd4009703: to=root, >delay=2+02:49:52, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=9527393, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m56ILDAU009315: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+05:51:11, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=10020146, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m56H6f3Y009045: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+07:05:43, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=10302860, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m56H6jhg009104: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+07:05:39, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=10426027, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m564qJd3006478: to=jlm, >delay=2+19:20:05, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=12461854, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m560pgSA005674: >to=jlm@caamora.com.au, ctladdr=jlm (1001/1001), delay=2+23:20:42, >xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=13270494, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, >stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m55LAINO005198: to=root, >delay=3+03:02:06, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=13921102, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m55LAINP005198: to=root, >delay=3+03:02:06, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=14026645, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m55H6mA6004634: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=3+07:05:36, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=14819736, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m55H6rEw004692: to=root, >ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=3+07:05:31, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, >pri=14925279, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign >requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m550I5vr000621: to=postmaster, >delay=3+23:54:02, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=17763061, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m550I5tA000621: to=postmaster, >delay=3+23:54:09, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=17764081, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m550I5Bx000621: to=postmaster, >delay=3+23:53:26, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=17764249, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 12:10:52 reality sm-msp-queue[1245]: m550I53u000621: to=postmaster, >delay=4+01:52:13, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=18346025, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 12:10:52 reality sm-msp-queue[1245]: m550I5tK000621: to=postmaster, >delay=4+01:52:36, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=18346379, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 12:10:52 reality sm-msp-queue[1245]: m550I50f000621: to=postmaster, >delay=4+01:52:22, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=18346561, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 12:10:52 reality sm-msp-queue[1245]: m550I5vJ000621: to=postmaster, >delay=4+01:52:31, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=18347047, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address >Jun 9 12:10:52 reality sm-msp-queue[1245]: m550I5tL000621: to=postmaster, >delay=4+01:52:36, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=18347590, >relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address > >Jun 9 12:17:07 reality sendmail[1280]: m592H7UK001280: from=jlm, >size=483, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<20080609021707.GA1262@caamora.com.au>, >relay=jlm@localhost >Jun 9 12:17:07 reality sendmail[1280]: m592H7UK001280: >to=jlm@caamora.com.au, ctladdr=jlm (1001/1001), delay=00:00:00, >xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30483, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], >dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address > >this last entry was the resutl of teh post test after adding > >'SMART_HOST' 'mail.caamora.com.au' >in teh freebsd.mc/sendmail.mc and a 'make install' to cover all >bases. > >i treied to restart teh mailqueue ... no luck .. grrr > > and then an entry into the mailertable > >. esmpt:mail.caamora.com.au > >again did the make whatever thingie and ... tried to post, >again this defered post business .. can't asign .. > >there is something going on here that i donot understand .. >some enlightenment would be appreciated, please. > >the few bits i found in yahoosearch engine, google resfuses me >access still but yahoo i can use. i looked uo the error message >and turned up this one endrt refereing to teh linux incedent, i >have a copy of bat book ed 1 it just says it exists, same for >smart_host mail_hub macros. > >is there some way to fix this short of upgrading and mvoing to >postfix ?? i don't have teh needed stuff to do that just yet >(me and hardware issues) > >it looks like i've missed somethings but i don't know enough >about freebsd v6.x to know even where to start to look for this >one .. aside from this i have another v6.2 host that also was >doing the same thing but after i copied a working set of >sendmail configs and restarted sendmail it work properly except >teh it dosent forward the "charlie root" mail from teh >maintenece events (at 2 am. 3 am and 4 am from teh /etc/cron >events) the mail itesm just sit in teh /var/mail/root folder > >it has taken me just under 6 mnths to get this far, i've come >to teh end of my rope and am seriously thinking of going back >to freebsd v2.2.5 .. > >regards/appreciations/much graciousnessess > >jonathan You need to have in /etc/mail/mailertable: .caamora.com.au esmpt:mail.caamora.com.au and rebuild mailertable.db In /etc/mail/domaintable: mail.caamora.com.au and rebuild domaintable.db in /etc/mail/local-host-names: caamora.com.au and double check your MX record and /etc/hosts Once that is all done, execute: /etc/rc.sendmail stop wait until all instances die then: /etc/rc.sendmail start -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 17:57:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B9010656D8 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D94D8FC16 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m5BHvZsL066361; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:57:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m5BHvZXI066360; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:57:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:57:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200806111757.m5BHvZXI066360@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20080609001010.G59013@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:57:36 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:57:38 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > 3) a CPU,cache and memory bandwidth hogging "feature" of checksumming all > blocks. thing that are already done in disk hardware. fortunately you can > turn this off Obviously you have been lucky to never be a victim of silent disk corruption (or you just haven't noticed). There are other people who didn't have that much luck, including me. ZFS' checksumming and self-healing is a blessing. If you don't know how it works and call it marketing blah, then I suggest you read up on it a bit. And by the way, it doesn't take any significant amount of CPU power on hardware that is not ancient. I agree that ZFS is not suitable to run on ancient hardware. It isn't designed for that. You're free to use UFS, of course, and keep suffering from its shortcomings. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "Python is an experiment in how much freedom programmers need. Too much freedom and nobody can read another's code; too little and expressiveness is endangered." -- Guido van Rossum From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 17:59:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309981065671 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:59:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=041eb2bf1@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF53B8FC1C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:59:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=041eb2bf1@tx.rr.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,625,1204524000"; d="scan'208";a="1441678" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 11 Jun 2008 12:48:24 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D8DAD23DEA; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:48:23 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:48:23 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: Andrew Berry , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <97CE833EB0375901B7CB9D96@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <485007C6.1030808@sentex.net> References: <01D2CBEB172529C12E1294D1@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <485007C6.1030808@sentex.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:59:20 -0000 --On Wednesday, June 11, 2008 13:13:42 -0400 Andrew Berry wrote: > Here is a message signed with Thunderbird 2 on Windows (ugh...). > And it came through fine. From: Andrew Berry User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <01D2CBEB172529C12E1294D1@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <01D2CBEB172529C12E1294D1@utd65257.utdallas.edu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms060103070502080704070506" -- Paul Schmehl As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 18:03:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03F910656A9 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:03:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve.lake@raiden.net) Received: from dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net (dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net [69.51.138.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453388FC16 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:03:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve.lake@raiden.net) Received: from works.raiden.net (works [192.168.0.3]) by dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net (8.13.1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m5BI4KKe071884 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:04:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from steve.lake@raiden.net) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20080611141050.00c44e58@192.168.0.30> X-Sender: megosdog@192.168.0.30 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:16:29 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Steve Lake Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Question about torrents via console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:03:24 -0000 Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents before via the graphical interface before, but I want to setup a way to download isos and various FOSS apps via bittorrent, but I want to do it via the console so I can start a torrent in screen and then walk away, allowing my server to finish the work without having to leave my main workstation running to do the work like I normally do. I'm using bittornado right now, and if there's a way to do this, I'd love to know how. Steven Lake Owner/Technical Writer Raiden's Realm www.raiden.net Bringing Linux and BSD to the World From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 18:06:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64161065672 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@casasponti.net) Received: from ns2.bafirst.com (72-12-2-19.static.networktel.net [72.12.2.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0DB8FC16 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@casasponti.net) Received: from casasponti.net ([201.155.7.3]) by ns2.bafirst.com with esmtp; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:06:30 -0500 id 000D4C39.48501428.0000C926 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by casasponti.net with local; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:32:52 -0500 id 00130C8C.484D3F14.00000D80 Received: from dsl-189-190-8-164.prod-infinitum.com.mx (dsl-189-190-8-164.prod-infinitum.com.mx [189.190.8.164]) by intranet.casasponti.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:32:52 -0500 Message-ID: <20080609093252.18002oqz6alefiw4@intranet.casasponti.net> Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:32:52 -0500 From: eculp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> In-Reply-To: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (5.0-cvs) X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080430 Firefox/2.0.0.14 X-IMP-Server: 201.155.7.3 X-Originating-IP: 189.190.8.164 X-Originating-User: eculp@casasponti.net Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:06:41 -0000 Quoting "Derek Graham" : > Hey all, > > I have tried using swfdec-plugin to do flash, but it doesnt seem to work too > well at least with firefox. > One ... I prefer being able to select what flash loads automaticly and > Two ... I like to be able to see the flash video but all it does is freeze > > I can't seem to get linux-flashplugin7 anymore due to the restricted status. > Flashplugin9 locks up also, which we all know already. I have heard gnash > doesnt do much better... Anyone have a solution that works halfway? I've got a question. A friend has been loaning me his old laptop at work that runs Ubuntu and flash runs fine. I have not been able to make it fail, yet at least. Could there be a clue in Ubuntu somewhare? I'm actually thinking of running it under kqemu, if there isn't too much overhead, on my amd64 laptop until this gets sorted out. If anyone has flash9 working dependably under freebsd, please let us know how. Thanks, ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 18:07:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D05F106568D for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:07:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norman.maurer@googlemail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065F78FC27 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norman.maurer@googlemail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2612640fgb.35 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=8Q7qTcvBa21ToI7x8ekjBq6WICdM1PmXzpJgPQpQIhw=; b=IobJOF8PBYx60lG2OlLuxmlmox4Qp4R2OIBjC2y1lf2yhTn3e6BCKquM9yDu2EfsoO BIgNBxB8paYl+Mmgo8amggwp7MaGjggLa2GwvRwFwmpPZyvb2BqRziIfBlPMTaMMnakx 4VgP3swuXuy4j14BDTSyN6QSJZZj5mRyHlVZk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Df9mklmexy7VEGVZoar4lNZP+cKg1dGg3u15T7cIXiMyOyNHHxD+hwiHX9hCZrANf4 Z/Phr9l1i7mqM+Da9fB+b/NnoP47vsOut89Tm6q+4G+90D8/AQ/999iLQo14+NrnwiTI 0PxJHBzsg/Jn7TL1TpxSUFFMfA3XabR5Bd+NE= Received: by 10.86.9.8 with SMTP id 8mr683489fgi.22.1213207646764; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.97.12 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <75bda7a00806111107k6f63f4bexbbb841a841171cc5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:07:26 +0200 From: "Norman Maurer" Sender: norman.maurer@googlemail.com To: "Steve Lake" In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20080611141050.00c44e58@192.168.0.30> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5.2.0.9.2.20080611141050.00c44e58@192.168.0.30> X-Google-Sender-Auth: c33730ab47b9f5ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about torrents via console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:07:28 -0000 rtorrent should work for you.... bye Norman 2008/6/11 Steve Lake : > Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents before > via the graphical interface before, but I want to setup a way to download > isos and various FOSS apps via bittorrent, but I want to do it via the > console so I can start a torrent in screen and then walk away, allowing my > server to finish the work without having to leave my main workstation > running to do the work like I normally do. I'm using bittornado right now, > and if there's a way to do this, I'd love to know how. > > > Steven Lake > Owner/Technical Writer > Raiden's Realm > www.raiden.net > Bringing Linux and BSD to the World > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 18:08:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE6E1065678 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A3A8FC0A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1613829ywe.13 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:08:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=FeqGS2oAXxgBcr3Ne7W+WFWLD6dRtFDWbTQ5DYKvIks=; b=s7+zWSSoMPu+CPG1mmQPAEfiuZEFpKFDr/zMXQmWS7QoyISeJ8M2k+ymNWFRrOo8vr UMa4BZN7tJYgmy1xXbVfT4lelu5gveVxuB201MyXHxsh9OwEEHmTV4ZhU8lWvgImnEER zGEOOK42+ZjCTzCbQFDjEwAN3ZJBidSqvAyeQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=IMXODQmIKFeBd3f/uuMMuaIO+eduUmusd0k64WzfaSvDT7qahUh02y/rZhAjgKgbWN Vr+G3sNla0JDALli1MbemNnTD3iuDWM2z2EJs320Os5IbHFrU7Ae/r0nvwnWU3Tl0ZDe NhiO4NAoAj2oPQ+ofXMBx9BlcTYHj6hz4zSBI= Received: by 10.114.148.2 with SMTP id v2mr151447wad.202.1213207693237; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.255.7 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8d23ec860806111108u7f2d7ce2yfd09da746d8e9d15@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:08:13 -0400 From: Schiz0 To: "Steve Lake" In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20080611141050.00c44e58@192.168.0.30> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <5.2.0.9.2.20080611141050.00c44e58@192.168.0.30> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about torrents via console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:08:16 -0000 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Steve Lake wrote: > Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents before via > the graphical interface before, but I want to setup a way to download isos > and various FOSS apps via bittorrent, but I want to do it via the console so > I can start a torrent in screen and then walk away, allowing my server to > finish the work without having to leave my main workstation running to do > the work like I normally do. I'm using bittornado right now, and if there's > a way to do this, I'd love to know how. > Look into rTorrent. It's excellent. It's CLI, and runs perfect inside a screen session. It supports encryption, prioritization, and all other major features of any good client. http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 18:15:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1A81065672 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:15:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430588FC0A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:15:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m5BIFe3f067195; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:15:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m5BIFewD067194; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:15:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:15:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200806111815.m5BIFewD067194@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, novembre@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <3b47caa90806092110o4f409778u29aa15be92c0959e@mail.gmail.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:15:41 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, novembre@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:15:43 -0000 Hello, Novembre wrote: > The problem is that I don't use any mail client, but the old fashion way of > using a web browser to log into my account and read my emails. That's why I > asked this question in the first place. Call me paranoid, but I just feel > more comfortable that way! > So to be more specific, how can I answer to a post from a mailing list from > within my, e.g., GMail or Yahoo! mailboxes? Is there any way to use the Raw > E-Mail output to send an email from within GMail to the OP and the list so > that it's threaded properly as well? You need to take the "Message-ID" header of the message that you're replying to, and put it into the "In-Reply-To" header of your response. That's what a standard mail client does when you reply to a message. The "In-Reply-To" header is used by clients and webmailers to identify the thread and the order of messages within that thread. I've never used Gmail or Yahoo, so I don't know if they provide a way to manually set the "In-Reply-To" header. If they don't you're out of luck, I'm afraid. By the way, I'm in a similar situation: I'm not subscribed to the lists, but I read them with a news client via an NNTP gateway. That gateway is one-way, i.e. I cannot post follow-ups to the news groups. Instead I use the reply-by- mail function of the news client. This works well, because the NNTP gateway sets the "Reply-To" back to the list's mail address (unless there already was a Reply-To header in the original mail, which is kept), and I configured my news client to copy the Message-ID into an In-Reply-To header, so it works as expected. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd I suggested holding a "Python Object Oriented Programming Seminar", but the acronym was unpopular. -- Joseph Strout From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 18:16:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3071F10656AA for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:16:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@casasponti.net) Received: from ns2.bafirst.com (72-12-2-19.static.networktel.net [72.12.2.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B546C8FC1A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:16:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@casasponti.net) Received: from casasponti.net ([201.155.7.3]) by ns2.bafirst.com with esmtp; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:06:30 -0500 id 000D4CB6.48501428.0000C927 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by casasponti.net with local; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:41:12 -0500 id 00130C7C.484FC7E8.00000360 Received: from dsl-189-190-8-164.prod-infinitum.com.mx (dsl-189-190-8-164.prod-infinitum.com.mx [189.190.8.164]) by intranet.casasponti.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:41:12 -0500 Message-ID: <20080611074112.56364valv0xpkow0@intranet.casasponti.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:41:12 -0500 From: eculp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> <200806071547.56717.derek.graham@att.net> <200806080946.44026.agh@tpg.com.au> <200806072130.37565.derek.graham@att.net> <20080611065519.05ca0584.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20080611065519.05ca0584.herbert.raimund@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (5.0-cvs) X-Remote-Browser: Opera/9.27 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) X-IMP-Server: 201.155.7.3 X-Originating-IP: 189.190.8.164 X-Originating-User: eculp@casasponti.net Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:16:52 -0000 Quoting "herbert langhans" : > There are some instructions how you can get the Flashplayer running. =20 > Not perfect, but it will do in many cases. > http://freebsd.langhans.com.pl/af/index.html Excellent howto Herb. My problem is that it seems that firefox-devel =20 doesn't work with amd64 but being stubborn, I'm forcing a compile just =20 to be sure. If it doesn't work on my laptop amd64 I will find a i386 =20 to test on. Thanks for you work and documentation Have a great day, ed > > Cheers > herbs > > -- > ******* Herbert Langhans, Warschau > ******* Sprachtraining Langhans > ******* http://www.langhans.com.pl > ******* herbert.raimund@gmx.net > ******* NIP 526-229-61-51 > ******* Regon 014911759 > ******* Tel. 603 341 441 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 18:20:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5583D1065676 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:20:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488698FC1A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:20:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2616585fgb.35 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:20:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=AUHPf30FnBTJVKWtwkV0p0jY0odR/8jAcRvGzqKe9WE=; b=IFjDBy1ijhhYH48z/hAfOcTqNgT0hb3IvZ0J6yjcgnaxPtzr7fQ8Djtd1Yh8DT4Be0 asOC8s+BxVVat24MqgRxEKaiIIjJUnh6mdu7zK4bkqSYJc42b3+Ekb00xMFAfhEbLKF3 m3cozX0UgDfS0/91ALINHk2oK2yNmBlxdbi64= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=VzANxBLw8G53kEm6TVwBmIsbiAwbrYEgtfpzzPor5dkajuRhNR4e+I7sStqxsNk/Hr 7Z3VAlZji1F3+LKZaXO2D7KFlald/8SBIi6XoSOD/Ia0WhNgyHb124FtSsjWmbi3Z+6A cdLR2P7jSpw6f2OEAgLLCJiPWZO0zj7O1xx3I= Received: by 10.86.94.11 with SMTP id r11mr749561fgb.0.1213208443927; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.76.17 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <560f92640806111120l375f8964ref72cf9b049fae98@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:20:43 -0700 From: "Nerius Landys" To: Schiz0 In-Reply-To: <8d23ec860806111108u7f2d7ce2yfd09da746d8e9d15@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5.2.0.9.2.20080611141050.00c44e58@192.168.0.30> <8d23ec860806111108u7f2d7ce2yfd09da746d8e9d15@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Steve Lake , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about torrents via console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:20:46 -0000 F1 (vote yes) to rtorrent. I have rtorrents running permanently on my servers, seeding torrent files. I use screen, just like you suggest. On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Schiz0 wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Steve Lake wrote: > > Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents before > via > > the graphical interface before, but I want to setup a way to download > isos > > and various FOSS apps via bittorrent, but I want to do it via the console > so > > I can start a torrent in screen and then walk away, allowing my server to > > finish the work without having to leave my main workstation running to do > > the work like I normally do. I'm using bittornado right now, and if > there's > > a way to do this, I'd love to know how. > > > > Look into rTorrent. It's excellent. It's CLI, and runs perfect inside > a screen session. It supports encryption, prioritization, and all > other major features of any good client. > > http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 18:28:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DBF41065678 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hsu@wlansystems.com) Received: from mail.bbnetworks.net (mail.bbnetworks.net [212.16.96.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0628FC26 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hsu@wlansystems.com) Received: from hsu.bbnetworks.net (hsu.bbnetworks.net [212.16.96.38]) by mail.bbnetworks.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m5BISF2W002353; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:28:15 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from hsu@wlansystems.com) Message-ID: <485019B9.7060502@wlansystems.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:30:17 +0300 From: Heikki Suonsivu User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080423) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Heikki Suonsivu , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> <484FB168.1070900@otenet.gr> <484FDBF9.7010700@wlansystems.com> <20080611151334.GC1538@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20080611151334.GC1538@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060203050605090706090204" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mail.bbnetworks.net [212.16.96.5]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:28:16 +0300 (EEST) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:28:23 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060203050605090706090204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frank Shute wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 05:06:49PM +0300, Heikki Suonsivu wrote: >> Oops, sorry, I was not specific enough: >> >> FreeBSD 4 or older NetBSD are no go: >> >> The computer I am doing this is not old, it is otherwise brand new, but >> it uses an embedded cpu, a 486 clone as SoC without math. See >> www.compactpc.com.tw, eBOX 2300SX. It is very low cost, runs on about >> 3W of power with CF card as mass memory, 128M, 3 USB2, serials, sound, >> etc, it has VESA form factor so you can attach it behind many LCD >> displays, etc. They have beefier models, but this one is cheapest and >> uses least power, latter of which is the more critical requirement for us. >> >> We would like to use it for certain control applications. Linux works, >> has been tested, but requires patches (turn math emulation on, add >> support for built-in ethernet, bug workaround). > > I don't know if this machine is going to be sited on an insecure > network or not. If it is, then you'll probably be using ssh. Without > a math co-proc to do the crypto, it will be horrendous. I don't even > know if ssh would work with an architecture without a maths unit. You apparently do not use the source :), go and grep double and float from some of the most common programs you use (games, scientific stuff and crappy UI code excused). > If it can't work with ssh, then you might be restricting your market. ssh does not use any floating point for any crypto algorithm. Oh, openssh does use doubles, it prints some ratios in some places, such as how many percent of something has been transferred. It seems to be stirring random numbers as floating point non-exactness does is not a bother there, but that is not used past session init. There is no human-noticeable effect on normal ssh use. I was one of the first guinea pigs for original ssh. We did have plenty of non-math cpus back then, and I did run ssh on non-fpu hardware until two years ago. We did run backups and configuration tasks over ssh on number of non-fpu computers acting as routers and other servers those days. Today's games might be different, but that is not what we do on these embedded computers... > I think you are punishing yourself unneccesarily by going with a > processor without maths. You restrict the software (both OS & > application) you can run. Applications cannot tell the difference between math emulation and hardware from anything else than performance, so there is no code difference in application layer, and kernel does not do fp at all, other than trapping fpu instructions and emulating them on non-fpu hardware. Kernel itself does not do fp math. I do not quite understand where this fear of non-fpu came from, as it made no practical difference just few years ago for anything but scientists in labs and intensive cad/graphics work. In particular I do not understand why people have an idea that everything uses floating point. Very few programs do heavy math processing, most common use is to double divide two longs to print out some statistics when program ends. >> The problem with is that while FreeBSD 4 seemed to boot on it, it did >> not recognize any peripherals as they are new. Old OS's are not really >> what we want, this is not one-off but volume product, it will be >> internet-connected so we need bugfixes and we need support for latest >> chipsets on 802.11 cards etc. >> >> There is another similar CPU, even slower and less power consuming, I do >> not remember the part number, I think it was about 100 MHz 486 without >> math as well. This was some manufacturer of microcontrollers. > > Can't you find a manufacturer that makes something similar with a DX > instead? Or can you email this company and ask them how much it would > cost to run off X units with a 486DX rather than SX? This is not 486, it is System-on-Chip thing. There are couple of very cheap SoCs, which do not have math, but performance is otherwise adequate for most applications. They are much faster than 486SX, by 5-10 times factor, so they are becoming popular on embedded devices. >> Heikki --------------060203050605090706090204-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 18:28:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB8D1065672 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:28:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A085C8FC14 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:28:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BISkdE073098; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:28:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5BISkM7073095; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:28:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:28:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, parish@magichamster.com In-Reply-To: <200806111709.m5BH9g7K064402@lurza.secnetix.de> Message-ID: <20080611202826.C73093@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200806111709.m5BH9g7K064402@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: Effects of CPUTYPE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:28:52 -0000 > > In my personal opinion, the small gain you get is more than > > overwhelmed by the big pain you get from setting CPUTYPE. > > I'm setting CPUTYPE on all of my machines for many years, > without the slightest problems. No pain at all. They're > all kinds of different processors, c3-2 (VIA), athlon64, > and so on. In some cases the difference is very noticable. exactly like me. i set it everywhere, no problems. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 18:34:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04E3106566C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:34:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651898FC22 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:34:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m5BIYlj5068098; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:34:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m5BIYlu1068097; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:34:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:34:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200806111834.m5BIYlu1068097@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, kheuer2@gwdg.de In-Reply-To: <20080609111729.A79925@gwdu60.gwdg.de> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:34:48 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD and NFSv4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, kheuer2@gwdg.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:34:50 -0000 Konrad Heuer wrote: > are there any experiences with FreeBSD being an NFSv4 client out there? > > And furthermore, is there any further development of NFSv4 functionality > within FreeBSD to come closer to RFC 3530? As far as I know (not 100% sure, though), the NFSv4 client is under active development. You might have better luck getting a useful answer on the -fs and/or -hackers lists. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd > Can the denizens of this group enlighten me about what the > advantages of Python are, versus Perl ? "python" is more likely to pass unharmed through your spelling checker than "perl". -- An unknown poster and Fredrik Lundh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 18:34:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA2D1065680 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:34:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chess@chessgriffin.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DBB8FC0C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:34:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chess@chessgriffin.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3883193rvf.43 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.191.14 with SMTP id o14mr114683rvf.247.1213207708237; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.40? ( [24.199.214.83]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i39sm688913wxd.22.2008.06.11.11.08.25 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4850148F.80202@chessgriffin.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:08:15 -0400 From: Chess Griffin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Lake References: <5.2.0.9.2.20080611141050.00c44e58@192.168.0.30> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20080611141050.00c44e58@192.168.0.30> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFAB2D2C85608D011F01B3640" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about torrents via console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:34:57 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFAB2D2C85608D011F01B3640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve Lake wrote: > Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents=20 > before via the graphical interface before, but I want to setup a way to= =20 > download isos and various FOSS apps via bittorrent, but I want to do it= =20 > via the console so I can start a torrent in screen and then walk away, = > allowing my server to finish the work without having to leave my main=20 > workstation running to do the work like I normally do. I'm using=20 > bittornado right now, and if there's a way to do this, I'd love to know= =20 > how. >=20 >=20 I have used net-p2p/ctorrent and net-p2p/rtorrent in the past and they=20 have worked well. Both are console bittorrent clients. I am sure there = are many others. --=20 Chess Griffin GPG Key: 0x0C7558C3 http://www.chessgriffin.com --------------enigFAB2D2C85608D011F01B3640 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIUBSSKzd9mAx1WMMRAjSPAJ9MopddFq8Wn2FGz5iWMvD+zUBDHACfelPs AQwkmD3EXHfgVnv3RCFBoyU= =mjfh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFAB2D2C85608D011F01B3640-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 18:35:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6F21065680 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543178FC26 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:35:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BIZ8MD073154 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:35:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5BIZ8Xm073151 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:35:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:35:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200806111757.m5BHvZXI066360@lurza.secnetix.de> Message-ID: <20080611202926.X73093@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200806111757.m5BHvZXI066360@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:35:15 -0000 > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > 3) a CPU,cache and memory bandwidth hogging "feature" of checksumming all > > blocks. thing that are already done in disk hardware. fortunately you can > > turn this off > > Obviously you have been lucky to never be a victim of > silent disk corruption (or you just haven't noticed). what you mean. that disk wrote the data wrong and doesn't detect it on read? i would mean broken disk processor, it's memory etc. possible - as much as broken main processor, main memory, some of chips on motherboard etc. - which will make ZFS calculate checksum wrong on write, or even calculate checksum right of wrong data generated by badly operating programs. given the complexity of motherboard+CPU etc. to complexity of disk hardware, i don't think "silent disk failure" happens often. i think all your cases wasn't disk, but general hardware problems. ZFS may help detect it, or it may not. if it helped for you. even without ZFS it WOULD cause problems with programs like random crashes. personally i often got disk failing the way that it was unable to read or write giving an error, but never things like that. > You're free to use UFS, of course, and keep suffering > from its shortcomings. i have to start suffering at first.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 18:37:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB45B1065676 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:37:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [64.7.153.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1FA8FC26 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:37:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1c.sentex.ca [64.7.153.10]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BIbCar093802; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:37:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.0.137] (p188ds3inxs.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca [67.43.135.189]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BIbCZe090361; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:37:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Message-ID: <48501B4B.1040805@sentex.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:36:59 -0400 From: Andrew Berry User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Lake References: <5.2.0.9.2.20080611141050.00c44e58@192.168.0.30> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20080611141050.00c44e58@192.168.0.30> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/7040/Mon May 5 21:52:15 2008 clamav-milter version 0.93 on clamscanner3 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 64.7.153.18 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about torrents via console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:37:15 -0000 Steve Lake wrote: > Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents > before via the graphical interface before, but I want to setup a way > to download isos and various FOSS apps via bittorrent, but I want to > do it via the console so I can start a torrent in screen and then walk > away, allowing my server to finish the work without having to leave my > main workstation running to do the work like I normally do. I'm using > bittornado right now, and if there's a way to do this, I'd love to > know how. At least on Debian, the bittornado port includes the curses interface. It was called 'btdownload.curses' I think. It's possible it is all ready installed or is available via ports. Another possibility is to run a GUI client in a VNC session. I do this with Azureus and am quite pleased with it. --Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 18:42:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F61106564A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@casasponti.net) Received: from ns2.bafirst.com (72-12-2-19.static.networktel.net [72.12.2.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAD08FC19 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:42:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@casasponti.net) Received: from casasponti.net ([201.155.7.3]) by ns2.bafirst.com with esmtp; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:32:25 -0500 id 000D4C39.48501A39.0000C98A Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by casasponti.net with local; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:32:20 -0500 id 00130C7C.48501A34.00000C67 Received: from dsl-189-190-8-164.prod-infinitum.com.mx (dsl-189-190-8-164.prod-infinitum.com.mx [189.190.8.164]) by intranet.casasponti.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:32:20 -0500 Message-ID: <20080611133220.198644ite5u5r778@intranet.casasponti.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:32:20 -0500 From: eculp To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (5.0-cvs) X-Remote-Browser: Opera/9.27 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) X-IMP-Server: 201.155.7.3 X-Originating-IP: 189.190.8.164 X-Originating-User: eculp@casasponti.net Cc: Subject: reboot after panic : page fault for two consecutive days now with FreeBSD stable 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:42:44 -0000 This is on a relatively new Dell dualcore with 4G of ram running up to =20 date stable. I'm not on site so I have no idea what might be =20 provoking these crashes. In fact in many years of running FreeBSD =20 I've not seen something just happen like this. It is a =20 simi-production machine that cvsups daily and builds and installs a =20 new world and kernel. Ports are updated about once a week and haven't =20 seen any issues previously. It has been running 24/7 since new, about =20 8 months. 3 files were generated info, bounds and vmcore. The info file follows: Dump header from device /dev/mfid0s1b Architecture: i386 Architecture Version: 2 Dump Length: 341225472B (325 MB) Blocksize: 512 Dumptime: Wed Jun 11 12:34:24 2008 Hostname: casasponti.net Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump Version String: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #258: Tue Jun 10 05:54:42 CDT 2008 root@casasponti.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO Panic String: page fault Dump Parity: 2395754794 Bounds: 2 Dump Status: good the vmcore is about 300M so I'm not attaching it;) I could put it on =20 line at a moments notice. I think that what I need is probably a =20 crash course on debugging a crash and I really don't know where to =20 start since after over 10 years with freebsd I've never needed it. =20 Any help, suggestions, etc. would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 18:46:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F107106566C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:46:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@casasponti.net) Received: from ns2.bafirst.com (72-12-2-19.static.networktel.net [72.12.2.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09AE8FC0C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:46:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@casasponti.net) Received: from casasponti.net ([201.155.7.3]) by ns2.bafirst.com with esmtp; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:46:44 -0500 id 000D4CB6.48501D94.0000C9CA Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by casasponti.net with local; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:46:38 -0500 id 00130C7C.48501D8E.00000DFE Received: from dsl-189-190-8-164.prod-infinitum.com.mx (dsl-189-190-8-164.prod-infinitum.com.mx [189.190.8.164]) by intranet.casasponti.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:46:38 -0500 Message-ID: <20080611134638.17855qkovcmssi04@intranet.casasponti.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:46:38 -0500 From: eculp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080611133220.198644ite5u5r778@intranet.casasponti.net> In-Reply-To: <20080611133220.198644ite5u5r778@intranet.casasponti.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (5.0-cvs) X-Remote-Browser: Opera/9.27 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) X-IMP-Server: 201.155.7.3 X-Originating-IP: 189.190.8.164 X-Originating-User: eculp@casasponti.net Subject: Re: reboot after panic : page fault for two consecutive days now with FreeBSD stable 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:46:51 -0000 Quoting eculp : > This is on a relatively new Dell dualcore with 4G of ram running up =20 > to date stable. I'm not on site so I have no idea what might be =20 > provoking these crashes. In fact in many years of running FreeBSD =20 > I've not seen something just happen like this. It is a =20 > simi-production machine that cvsups daily and builds and installs a =20 > new world and kernel. Ports are updated about once a week and =20 > haven't seen any issues previously. It has been running 24/7 since =20 > new, about 8 months. > > 3 files were generated info, bounds and vmcore. The info file follows: > > Dump header from device /dev/mfid0s1b > Architecture: i386 > Architecture Version: 2 > Dump Length: 341225472B (325 MB) > Blocksize: 512 > Dumptime: Wed Jun 11 12:34:24 2008 > Hostname: casasponti.net > Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump > Version String: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #258: Tue Jun 10 05:54:42 CDT 2008 > root@casasponti.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO > Panic String: page fault > Dump Parity: 2395754794 > Bounds: 2 > Dump Status: good > > the vmcore is about 300M so I'm not attaching it;) I could put it on =20 > line at a moments notice. I think that what I need is probably a =20 > crash course on debugging a crash and I really don't know where to =20 > start since after over 10 years with freebsd I've never needed it. =20 > Any help, suggestions, etc. would be greatly appreciated. Forgot I did try to debug but got nowhere: /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO # kgdb kernel.debug /var/crash/vmcore.2 GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions= . Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd"... Cannot access memory at address 0x0 (kgdb) Ignorance, I'm sure. > > Thanks, > > ed > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 18:53:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADA11065672 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:53:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7588FC1C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:53:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m5BIrche069153; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:53:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m5BIrbWa069152; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:53:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:53:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200806111853.m5BIrbWa069152@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Paul Schmehl , andrewberry@sentex.net, perrin@apotheon.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:53:39 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Paul Schmehl , andrewberry@sentex.net, perrin@apotheon.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:53:43 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > [...] > By default, it appears that Mailman does not do content filtering. It also has > pass rules (if filtering is enabled) for multipart/mixed, multipart/alternative > and text/plain. So, it's possible that MIMEDefang is the culprit instead. It's documented in the FreeBSD Handbook: http://freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAILFILTERING Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Perl is worse than Python because people wanted it worse. -- Larry Wall From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 18:54:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E319106566B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [64.7.153.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1FE8FC12 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smtp2.sentex.ca (smtp2c.sentex.ca [64.7.153.30]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BIsCEh097751; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:54:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.0.137] (p188ds3inxs.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca [67.43.135.189]) by smtp2.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BIsA7X097190; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:54:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Message-ID: <48501F44.3010606@sentex.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:53:56 -0400 From: Andrew Berry User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: z.szalbot@lc-words.com References: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> In-Reply-To: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/7040/Mon May 5 21:52:15 2008 clamav-milter version 0.93 on clamscanner3 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 64.7.153.18 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: generating random passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:54:15 -0000 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hello, > > Excuse me my ignorance. Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would allow > me to generate random passwords without actually creating any accounts > or modifying existing ones? I am looking for something to allow me to > generate a random string of characters. I know I can randomly hit the > keyboard but if anything like that exists, many thanks for your > advice. :) > > Best regards, I've used pwgen from ports. It sounds similar to the other suggestions. --Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 18:58:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA4B1065671 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:58:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC198FC24; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:58:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4850203A.5080805@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:58:02 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eculp References: <20080611133220.198644ite5u5r778@intranet.casasponti.net> In-Reply-To: <20080611133220.198644ite5u5r778@intranet.casasponti.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reboot after panic : page fault for two consecutive days now with FreeBSD stable 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:58:03 -0000 eculp wrote: > This is on a relatively new Dell dualcore with 4G of ram running up to > date stable. I'm not on site so I have no idea what might be provoking > these crashes. In fact in many years of running FreeBSD I've not seen > something just happen like this. It is a simi-production machine that > cvsups daily and builds and installs a new world and kernel. Ports are > updated about once a week and haven't seen any issues previously. It > has been running 24/7 since new, about 8 months. > > 3 files were generated info, bounds and vmcore. The info file follows: > > Dump header from device /dev/mfid0s1b > Architecture: i386 > Architecture Version: 2 > Dump Length: 341225472B (325 MB) > Blocksize: 512 > Dumptime: Wed Jun 11 12:34:24 2008 > Hostname: casasponti.net > Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump > Version String: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #258: Tue Jun 10 05:54:42 CDT 2008 > root@casasponti.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO > Panic String: page fault > Dump Parity: 2395754794 > Bounds: 2 > Dump Status: good > > the vmcore is about 300M so I'm not attaching it;) I could put it on > line at a moments notice. I think that what I need is probably a crash > course on debugging a crash and I really don't know where to start since > after over 10 years with freebsd I've never needed it. Any help, > suggestions, etc. would be greatly appreciated. See the developers' handbook chapter on kernel debugging. However, panics that "suddenly" start happening frequently on a system that has been stable for a while with no OS or workload changes made, are usually due to the hardware starting to fail. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 19:03:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5210106566B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [64.7.153.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68AE28FC13 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smtp2.sentex.ca (smtp2c.sentex.ca [64.7.153.30]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BJ2upe099902; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:02:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.0.137] (p188ds3inxs.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca [67.43.135.189]) by smtp2.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BJ2uFS024028; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:02:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Message-ID: <48502154.2090202@sentex.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:02:44 -0400 From: Andrew Berry User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Paul Schmehl , andrewberry@sentex.net, perrin@apotheon.com References: <200806111853.m5BIrbWa069152@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200806111853.m5BIrbWa069152@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms080902040009080404060200" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/7040/Mon May 5 21:52:15 2008 clamav-milter version 0.93 on clamscanner2 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 64.7.153.18 Cc: Subject: Re: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:03:00 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080902040009080404060200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oliver Fromme wrote: > Paul Schmehl wrote: > > [...] > > By default, it appears that Mailman does not do content filtering. It also has > > pass rules (if filtering is enabled) for multipart/mixed, multipart/alternative > > and text/plain. So, it's possible that MIMEDefang is the culprit instead. > > It's documented in the FreeBSD Handbook: > > http://freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAILFILTERING > > Best regards > Oliver Good find - it looks like Mail is using application/pkcs7-signature, while Thunderbird is using , application/x-pkcs7-signature, which is allowed. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/MIME#Caveats, either is an acceptable mime type. 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b=SpYYDrtP+A2U1frH77ixwFUlKzzNpicEcKZQelb5bmB0waHfTgzuGUXrhGLi5YL9j7 PFsvIMh1rqLw4lRCzzkq1TFwjXJhjqUa+fKElcfuGxG50D2XXSBYLU3CaLeT88rykWaE GCbsW8R+uxbbllhHTMgKvXnlklco2IygKLt3s= Received: by 10.141.23.7 with SMTP id a7mr256550rvj.58.1213211499244; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 103-120-245-190.fibertel.com.ar ( [190.245.120.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm221492ywf.9.2008.06.11.12.11.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:11:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:11:34 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <5.2.0.9.2.20080611141050.00c44e58@192.168.0.30> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20080611141050.00c44e58@192.168.0.30> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806111611.34234.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Question about torrents via console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:11:39 -0000 On Wednesday 11 June 2008 15:16:29 Steve Lake wrote: > Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents before > via the graphical interface before, but I want to setup a way to download > isos and various FOSS apps via bittorrent, but I want to do it via the > console so I can start a torrent in screen and then walk away, allowing my > server to finish the work without having to leave my main workstation > running to do the work like I normally do. I'm using bittornado right now, > and if there's a way to do this, I'd love to know how. > > > Steven Lake > Owner/Technical Writer > Raiden's Realm > www.raiden.net > Bringing Linux and BSD to the World > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" rtorrent will cover all your needs and more .. excellent c++ CLI torrent client. once you use it, there's no going back .. guaranteed Blessings -- Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 19:23:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EB31065681 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:23:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@casasponti.net) Received: from ns2.bafirst.com (72-12-2-19.static.networktel.net [72.12.2.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F898FC17 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:23:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@casasponti.net) Received: from casasponti.net ([201.155.7.3]) by ns2.bafirst.com with esmtp; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:23:00 -0500 id 000D4CB6.48502615.0000CA62 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by casasponti.net with local; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:22:55 -0500 id 00130C7C.4850260F.0000A26D Received: from dsl-189-190-8-164.prod-infinitum.com.mx (dsl-189-190-8-164.prod-infinitum.com.mx [189.190.8.164]) by intranet.casasponti.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:22:55 -0500 Message-ID: <20080611142255.15431txbrywv1csg@intranet.casasponti.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:22:55 -0500 From: eculp To: "Kris Kennaway" References: <20080611133220.198644ite5u5r778@intranet.casasponti.net> <4850203A.5080805@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4850203A.5080805@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (5.0-cvs) X-Remote-Browser: Opera/9.27 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) X-IMP-Server: 201.155.7.3 X-Originating-IP: 189.190.8.164 X-Originating-User: eculp@casasponti.net Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reboot after panic : page fault for two consecutive days now with FreeBSD stable 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:23:07 -0000 Quoting "Kris Kennaway" : > eculp wrote: >> This is on a relatively new Dell dualcore with 4G of ram running up =20 >> to date stable. I'm not on site so I have no idea what might be =20 >> provoking these crashes. In fact in many years of running FreeBSD =20 >> I've not seen something just happen like this. It is a =20 >> simi-production machine that cvsups daily and builds and installs a =20 >> new world and kernel. Ports are updated about once a week and =20 >> haven't seen any issues previously. It has been running 24/7 since =20 >> new, about 8 months. >> >> 3 files were generated info, bounds and vmcore. The info file follows: >> >> Dump header from device /dev/mfid0s1b >> Architecture: i386 >> Architecture Version: 2 >> Dump Length: 341225472B (325 MB) >> Blocksize: 512 >> Dumptime: Wed Jun 11 12:34:24 2008 >> Hostname: casasponti.net >> Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump >> Version String: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #258: Tue Jun 10 05:54:42 CDT 2008 >> root@casasponti.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO >> Panic String: page fault >> Dump Parity: 2395754794 >> Bounds: 2 >> Dump Status: good >> >> the vmcore is about 300M so I'm not attaching it;) I could put it =20 >> on line at a moments notice. I think that what I need is probably =20 >> a crash course on debugging a crash and I really don't know where =20 >> to start since after over 10 years with freebsd I've never needed =20 >> it. Any help, suggestions, etc. would be greatly appreciated. > > See the developers' handbook chapter on kernel debugging. Thanks Kris. I did that and I'm assuming that since debugging was not =20 enabled in my kernel I got: /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO # kgdb kernel.debug /var/crash/vmcore.2 GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions= . Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd"... Cannot access memory at address 0x0 (kgdb) I assume it will only work with the new kernel because the =20 kernel.debug only got to Cannot access memory at address 0x4b55. =20 Which means I have to wait for another crash. I have already compiled a new kernelwith debuging and will reboot =20 tonight to install the kernel and hopefully will never need to test it. Thanks for your help, ed > > However, panics that "suddenly" start happening frequently on a =20 > system that has been stable for a while with no OS or workload =20 > changes made, are usually due to the hardware starting to fail. > > Kris > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 19:26:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30157106567D; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:26:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from neu.net (neu.net [199.237.239.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BA58FC71; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from neu.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neu.net (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m5BJQaga081010; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:26:36 GMT Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by neu.net (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id m5BJQapM081007; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:26:36 GMT Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:26:36 +0000 (GMT) From: AN To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/7435/Wed Jun 11 12:09:34 2008 on neu.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: mounting WD external USB disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:26:38 -0000 I'm trying to mount a WD "My Book" external usb hard drive, and am having a problem. My system: uname -a FreeBSD opteron.foo.bar 7.0-STABLE FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #2: Wed Jun 11 21:20:59 IDT 2008 root@opteron.foo.bar:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 camcontrol devlist at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,cd0) at scbus4 target 0 lun 0 (da0,pass1) Gnome 2.22.1 from /var/log/messages: Jun 11 21:59:34 opteron kernel: umass0: on uhub4 Jun 11 21:59:34 opteron root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x1058 product 0x1100 bus uhub4 Jun 11 21:59:34 opteron kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Jun 11 21:59:34 opteron kernel: da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device Jun 11 21:59:34 opteron kernel: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers Jun 11 21:59:34 opteron kernel: da0: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 60801C) Jun 11 21:59:34 opteron kernel: GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1 is msdosfs/My Book. Jun 11 21:59:35 opteron kernel: pid 807 (hald), uid 560: exited on signal 11 Jun 11 22:02:01 opteron kernel: GEOM_LABEL: Label msdosfs/My Book removed. I tried a few different commands: mount -t msdos /dev/da0 /mnt/ mount: Using "-t msdosfs", since "-t msdos" is deprecated. mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0: : Invalid argument [root@opteron ~]# mount_msdosfs /dev/da0 /mnt/ mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0: : Invalid argument [root@opteron ~]# mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Disk too big, try '-o large' mount option: Invalid argument [root@opteron ~]# mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1a /mnt/ mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1a: : No such file or directory [root@opteron ~]# mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1c /mnt/ mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1c: : No such file or directory [root@opteron ~]# mount_msdosfs -o large /dev/da0s1c /mnt/ mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1c: : No such file or directory [root@opteron ~]# mount_msdosfs -o large /dev/da0 /mnt/ mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0: : Invalid argument Any help is appreciated, the exact command would be really helpful. TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 19:28:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1EE6106568A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:28:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93EA18FC24 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:28:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Jun 2008 15:28:08 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id OTG26253; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:28:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Jun 2008 15:28:04 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <18512.10051.598388.567975@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:28:03 -0400 To: eculp In-Reply-To: <20080609093252.18002oqz6alefiw4@intranet.casasponti.net> References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> <20080609093252.18002oqz6alefiw4@intranet.casasponti.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:28:10 -0000 eculp writes: > I've got a question. A friend has been loaning me his old laptop > at work that runs Ubuntu and flash runs fine. I have not been > able to make it fail, yet at least. Could there be a clue in > Ubuntu somewhare? I'm actually thinking of running it under > kqemu, if there isn't too much overhead, on my amd64 laptop until > this gets sorted out. =09The "Flashplugin"s in the ports collection are the Linux versions, which require both a) an interface between the plugin and the browser and b) the Linux emulation layer. =09My last information about Flash9, gleaned from various FreeBSD mailing lists: the problem is thought to be _somewhere_ between the plugin and the emulation layer. This is roughly equivalent to saying there is a mouse somewhere in . =09The current set of permanent pest control experts (the Linux emulation crew) has considered the matter and decided this is not worth the time. As of the time I heard about it, this was in part because a) Flash9 had tangible problems under Linux and b) even if they knew what was broken in the plugin the track record of Adobe being willing to fix it was poor. (Volunteers for a special mission should apply on the emulation@ list.) =09Don't get me wrong - I'd love to have a working Flash even under emulation. But after _years_ of having hopes raised and dashed I'm pretty much waiting for Flash10 which is supposed to have an open spec API (ABI??). =09=09=09=09Robert Huff . From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 19:29:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D581065676 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ABB48FC1A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AC1FD061 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:29:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5CDFD05C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:29:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4850277C.209@webrz.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:29:00 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> <20080611161436.GA9276@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20080611163515.GA8032@ayn.mi.celestial.com> In-Reply-To: <20080611163515.GA8032@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: Re: generating random passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:29:01 -0000 Bill Campbell wrote: > I much prefer apg which can generate more-or-less pronounceable > passwords which it is possible to remember (at least after typing > them a few times :-). > This is not supposed to be an offense to any author of a password generator, but: Never, but never trust any random password generator. You do not know the author, you do not know the algoritm it uses and in worst case scenarion you do not know if there is a millisecond traffic to somewhere that is recording the generated password. > One of the biggest problems with random passwords is that they > end up written on yellow-stickies on the monitor or under the > keyboard. > You don't need a generated password for that; it is common behaviour for people that aren't involved in any responsibility whatsoever. Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 19:29:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6591065673 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E0C8FC12 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m5BJTATv070814; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:29:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m5BJTAPY070813; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:29:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:29:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200806111929.m5BJTAPY070813@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20080611202926.X73093@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:29:11 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:29:13 -0000 [attribution fixed] Wojciech Puchar wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > 3) a CPU,cache and memory bandwidth hogging "feature" of checksumming all > > > blocks. thing that are already done in disk hardware. fortunately you can > > > turn this off > > > > Obviously you have been lucky to never be a victim of > > silent disk corruption (or you just haven't noticed). > > what you mean. that disk wrote the data wrong and doesn't detect it on > read? i would mean broken disk processor, it's memory etc. Correct. It does happen. > possible - as much as broken main processor, main memory, some of chips on > motherboard etc. - A broken processor usually results in random crashes, not silent data corruption. Broken memory will be noticed if it supports ECC, otherwise it will also result in crashes, most probably. > which will make ZFS calculate checksum wrong on write, Even if that happens (without crashes or other things that you'll notice immediately), the error will be detected by ZFS and fixed ("healed") if possible, i.e. when running with redundancy and at least one copy has a good checksum. (GELI can only detect, but not fix. ZFS can fix it, too. I assume in theory it would be possible to make geli co- operate with gmirror so it could fix bad blocks, too, but that's just theory. ZFS is reality.) > or even calculate checksum right of wrong data generated by badly > operating programs. What do you mean, wrong data generated by programs? If a program generates wrong output, there's nothing any file system could do about that. That's not the file system's job at all. The file systems job is to ensure the integrity of data written to the disk, and ZFS does exactly that. > given the complexity of motherboard+CPU etc. to complexity of disk > hardware, i don't think "silent disk failure" happens often. Fortunately it doesn't happen often, but it does happen. And when it happens, you are in really serious trouble. You usually notice it when it's too late and the last good backup media was already recycled. > i think all your cases wasn't disk, but general hardware problems. In my case it was a disk with media surface errors, and the disk failed to report the error properly to the OS. Instead it just returned bad data. > ZFS may help detect it, or it may not. if it helped for you. Please stop spreading FUD. There is no "may or may not". If a disk returns bad data, ZFS _will_ detect it. Silent corruption _cannot_ happen with ZFS, except if you disable the checksumming feature intentionally. > even without ZFS it WOULD cause problems with programs like random > crashes. Please elaborate what the problem is, if you think there is one. > personally i often got disk failing the way that it was unable to read or > write giving an error, but never things like that. As I said: You were lucky. > > You're free to use UFS, of course, and keep suffering > > from its shortcomings. > > i have to start suffering at first.... Many people suffer without knowing. :-) I do suffer from UFS' shortcomings on many machines on which I can't use ZFS (or other file systems) for various reasons. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd With Perl you can manipulate text, interact with programs, talk over networks, drive Web pages, perform arbitrary precision arithmetic, and write programs that look like Snoopy swearing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 19:32:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F331C1065678; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:32:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E1F8FC1A; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:32:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BJWT1t031109; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:32:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5BJWOC2031101; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:32:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:32:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: AN In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080611213214.G31099@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting WD external USB disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:32:56 -0000 > [root@opteron ~]# mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ > mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Disk too big, try '-o large' mount option: Invalid > argument try it From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 19:38:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A852C1065677 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:38:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F748FC16 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:38:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m5BJcGJL071306; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:38:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m5BJcGtH071300; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:38:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:38:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200806111938.m5BJcGtH071300@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, andrewberry@sentex.net, nejc@skoberne.net In-Reply-To: <4850034B.607@sentex.net> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:38:16 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: Openvpn on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, andrewberry@sentex.net, nejc@skoberne.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:38:18 -0000 Andrew Berry wrote: > Nejc ?koberne wrote: > > > > Why are you using TCP anyway? > > I'd been having problems with UDP and QoS a long time ago. I just hadn't > bothered to change it since it was working. Note that using TCP on top of TCP can cause certain problems, especially when packets are lost. There's a good explanation on this page: http://sites.inka.de/sites/bigred/devel/tcp-tcp.html The short story is: If any packets are lost, the resend-algorithms of the two TCP layers will start to interfere with each other, because both have their own timeouts and will start retransmitting packets at their respective levels. This is bad, because it leads to a snowball effect. If you can guarantee that there will be zero packet loss, then TCP is fine. Otherwise I recommend to run the VPN on UDP. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was the last time you needed one?" -- Tom Cargil, C++ Journal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 19:41:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E2A106564A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5298FC17 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:41:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BJewj3062454 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:40:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5BJewxk062451 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:40:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:40:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200806111929.m5BJTAPY070813@lurza.secnetix.de> Message-ID: <20080611213343.D31099@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200806111929.m5BJTAPY070813@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:41:04 -0000 > A broken processor usually results in random crashes, not > silent data corruption. result in both in my practice. with broken companion chips (chipset) it's silent data corruption is common, while crashes can be under specific cases. that's from what i've got. > > or even calculate checksum right of wrong data generated by badly > > operating programs. > > What do you mean, wrong data generated by programs? If wrong data generated by program because of hardware problem. > You usually notice it when it's too late and the last > good backup media was already recycled. not that bad, but of course - i make backups. > > i think all your cases wasn't disk, but general hardware problems. > > In my case it was a disk with media surface errors, and > the disk failed to report the error properly to the OS. > Instead it just returned bad data. so i am just happy to never having it, while normal disk failures are quite common.. > > > ZFS may help detect it, or it may not. if it helped for you. > > Please stop spreading FUD. There is no "may or may not". > If a disk returns bad data, ZFS _will_ detect it. please read more carefully. i didn't say it. i just say that "disk returning bad data" is very rare case, lots of other - more frequent - hardware problems will not be detected. if you like to give lots of CPU power and disk bandwidth for calculation of checksums on each read/write - then OK. if you think you are secured this way - then OK. i just say it doesn't make lot of protection against bad hardware, not worth the expense. i probably shouldn't type that point as it can be turned off in ZFS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 19:43:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA11A1065679 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:43:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [206.29.77.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB768FC15 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:43:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED395DCD7D for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:42:57 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H3WReyMqcV8C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:42:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from janus.daycos.com (janus.daycos.com [10.45.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 71E9C5DCD79 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:42:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:42:50 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <200806051508.29424.kirk@strauser.com> In-Reply-To: <200806051508.29424.kirk@strauser.com> X-Face: T+/_{qmjgbosI0J/e83I~w[&VF'w)!((xEpj///^bA/6?jHHS?nq+T8_+`nh"WnEWCWG, \}]Y2$)) =?utf-8?q?vLVz4ACChrEcb=7DCO=5EtYmMG=5C=0A=09ts=2Em=3F=5B7=5B6OwE*dAJ*9f+m?= =?utf-8?q?X=2E7R32qeN=5EDJ=5C?=(k@evW?IRQCy.^ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806111442.50935.kirk@strauser.com> Subject: Re: Poor read() performance, and I can't profile it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:43:29 -0000 On Thursday 05 June 2008, Kirk Strauser wrote: > I was testing the same software on my desktop PC when I noticed that it > ran *much* faster, and found that it was spending only about 1% as much > time in the kernel on Linux as it was on FreeBSD. I'm almost ready to give up on this. I've gone as far as completely rewriting the original C++ program into straightforward C, and still the performance is terrible on FreeBSD versus Linux. On Linux: $ time ./cdbf /tmp/invoice.dbf >/dev/null ./cdbf /tmp/invoice.dbf > /dev/null 42.65s user 20.09s system 71% cpu 1:28.15 total On FreeBSD: Also note that on the FreeBSD machine, I have enough RAM that to buffer the entire file, and in practice gstat shows that the drives are idle for subsequent runs after the first one. Right now my code looks a lot like: for(recordnum = 0; recordnum < recordcount; recordnum++) { buf = malloc(recordlength); fread(buf, recordlength, 1, dbffile); /* Do stuff with buf */ memoblock = getmemoblock(buf); /* Skip to the requested block if we're not already there */ if(memoblock != currentmemofileblock) { currentmemofileblock = memoblock; fseek(memofile, currentmemofileblock * memoblocksize, SEEK_SET); } memohead = malloc(memoblocksize); fread(memohead, memoblocksize, 1, memofile); currentmemofileblock++; /* Do stuff with memohead */ free(memohead); free(buf); } ...where recordlength == 13 in this one case. Given that the whole file is buffered in RAM, the small reads shouldn't make a difference, should they? I've played with setvbuf() and it shaves off a few percent of runtime, but nothing to write home about. Now, memofile gets quite a lot of seeks. Again, that shouldn't make too much of a difference if it's already buffered in RAM, should it? setvbuf() on that file that gets lots of random access actually made performance worse. What else can I do to make my code run as well on FreeBSD as it does on a much wimpier Linux machine? I'm almost to the point of throwing in the towel and making a Linux server to do nothing more than run this one program if I can't FreeBSD's performance more on parity, and I honestly never thought I'd be considering that. I'll gladly give shell access with my code and sample data files if anyone is interested in testing it. -- Kirk Strauser From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 19:47:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470BC1065670 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:47:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151A68FC0C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8CF114B00; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:47:04 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: Jc79dfZCQzIKgBllowJQ6O0hFWS+TTLtfV+9CwtZS+Zp 1213213624 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DFE992BB44; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:47:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <85FE1FA5-D917-43D8-B959-C70A00A41A7A@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: freebsd@celestial.com In-Reply-To: <20080611163515.GA8032@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:47:03 -0500 References: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> <20080611161436.GA9276@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20080611163515.GA8032@ayn.mi.celestial.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: generating random passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:47:05 -0000 On Jun 11, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Bill Campbell wrote: > One of the biggest problems with random passwords is that they > end up written on yellow-stickies on the monitor or under the > keyboard. I'm going to take this opportunity to preach. Everyone should be using a good password management system. Otherwise people will use either weak passwords or will use passwords which are predictable from other passwords. (That is using the same password or variants of the same password for many separate realms.) I don't run FreeBSD on desktops so I haven't looked at the various tools available. On OS X, I use 1password which makes excellent use of the OS X Keychain system, and has terrific webbrowser integration. I'm fairly sure that the Apple Keychain libraries have been or can be ported to FreeBSD, but it might require GnuStep. On Window's I recommend Password Safe. In ports, sysutils/pwsafe provides a CLI utility that can manage Password Safe data. And security/gorilla provides a tcl/tk GUI for pwsafe. I've used both on OS X, and the work fine, but I much prefer 1password in that environment. I've never looked at things like kwallet or other Unixish password management systems. But once again, I recommend that everyone use a proper password management system. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 19:47:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4B61065687 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:47:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [206.29.77.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E56F8FC0A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:47:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22285DCD64 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:46:50 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HpcfDPtevvbT for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:46:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from janus.daycos.com (janus.daycos.com [10.45.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 61A0D5DE3A6 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:46:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:46:44 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <200806051508.29424.kirk@strauser.com> <200806111442.50935.kirk@strauser.com> In-Reply-To: <200806111442.50935.kirk@strauser.com> X-Face: T+/_{qmjgbosI0J/e83I~w[&VF'w)!((xEpj///^bA/6?jHHS?nq+T8_+`nh"WnEWCWG, \}]Y2$)) =?utf-8?q?vLVz4ACChrEcb=7DCO=5EtYmMG=5C=0A=09ts=2Em=3F=5B7=5B6OwE*dAJ*9f+m?= =?utf-8?q?X=2E7R32qeN=5EDJ=5C?=(k@evW?IRQCy.^ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806111446.45234.kirk@strauser.com> Subject: Re: Poor read() performance, and I can't profile it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:47:21 -0000 On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Linux: > > $ time ./cdbf /tmp/invoice.dbf >/dev/null > ./cdbf /tmp/invoice.dbf > /dev/null 42.65s user 20.09s system 71% cpu > 1:28.15 total > > On FreeBSD: Oops! I left that out: $ time /tmp/cdbf /var/tmp/invoice.dbf >/dev/null /tmp/cdbf /var/tmp/invoice.dbf > /dev/null 59.15s user 11.93s system 36% cpu 3:14.53 total Again, Linux is on a boring Dell workstation, FreeBSD is on a far faster Dell server 15K RPM SCSI drives (even if they don't come into play once the data files are buffered). -- Kirk Strauser From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 19:48:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811371065680 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@casasponti.net) Received: from ns2.bafirst.com (72-12-2-19.static.networktel.net [72.12.2.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F858FC12 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@casasponti.net) Received: from casasponti.net ([201.155.7.3]) by ns2.bafirst.com with esmtp; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:48:45 -0500 id 000D4CB6.48502C1E.0000CAF3 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by casasponti.net with local; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:48:36 -0500 id 00130E1F.48502C14.0000A3DF Received: from dsl-189-190-8-164.prod-infinitum.com.mx (dsl-189-190-8-164.prod-infinitum.com.mx [189.190.8.164]) by intranet.casasponti.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:48:36 -0500 Message-ID: <20080611144836.12986xjl8ihhjckc@intranet.casasponti.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:48:36 -0500 From: eculp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net> <20080609093252.18002oqz6alefiw4@intranet.casasponti.net> <18512.10051.598388.567975@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <18512.10051.598388.567975@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (5.0-cvs) X-Remote-Browser: Opera/9.27 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) X-IMP-Server: 201.155.7.3 X-Originating-IP: 189.190.8.164 X-Originating-User: eculp@casasponti.net Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:48:52 -0000 Quoting "Robert Huff" : > > eculp writes: > >> I've got a question. A friend has been loaning me his old laptop >> at work that runs Ubuntu and flash runs fine. I have not been >> able to make it fail, yet at least. Could there be a clue in >> Ubuntu somewhare? I'm actually thinking of running it under >> kqemu, if there isn't too much overhead, on my amd64 laptop until >> this gets sorted out. > > =09The "Flashplugin"s in the ports collection are the Linux > versions, which require both a) an interface between the plugin and > the browser and b) the Linux emulation layer. > =09My last information about Flash9, gleaned from various FreeBSD > mailing lists: the problem is thought to be _somewhere_ between the > plugin and the emulation layer. This is roughly equivalent to > saying there is a mouse somewhere in . > =09The current set of permanent pest control experts (the Linux > emulation crew) has considered the matter and decided this is not > worth the time. As of the time I heard about it, this was in part > because a) Flash9 had tangible problems under Linux and b) even if > they knew what was broken in the plugin the track record of Adobe > being willing to fix it was poor. (Volunteers for a special mission > should apply on the emulation@ list.) > =09Don't get me wrong - I'd love to have a working Flash > even under emulation. But after _years_ of having hopes raised and > dashed I'm pretty much waiting for Flash10 which is supposed to have > an open spec API (ABI??). Great information, Robert. Thanks. ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 19:53:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A47A1065700 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:53:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B198FC3B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:53:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-00000d18000003dc-89-48502d982d1a Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:55:03 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:53:07 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <485007C6.1030808@sentex.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Problems opening mail on this list Thread-Index: AcjL5oSfjCWcSt3CREm/5VdlLriaEAAFb2jg References: <01D2CBEB172529C12E1294D1@utd65257.utdallas.edu> <485007C6.1030808@sentex.net> From: "Bob McConnell" To: "Andrew Berry" X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Problems opening mail on this list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:53:59 -0000 From: Andrew Berry >=20 > Here is a message signed with Thunderbird 2 on Windows (ugh...). >=20 > --Andrew Andrew, I received that with no problem. There is also a button in the corner I have never seen before that reveals the signature on this message is Valid and Trusted. In response to your earlier message, I do not have control over which mail agent I use. That is dictated by the company's IT group. It may soon be further downgraded to Office 2007, if the rumors I hear are correct. Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 19:54:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64C711065673 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:54:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB2A8FC16 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:54:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id A4E37472896 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:54:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.MEIWay.com [127.0.0.1]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 43FB6386853 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:54:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) X-AV-Checked: Wed Jun 11 21:54:14 2008 virusgate.meiway.com Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB49A38690D for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:54:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from TX2.Go2France.com [66.90.247.9] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id AC108B2F01FA; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:48:32 +0200 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:53:44 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad In-Reply-To: <340a29540802191437m557b8e02w91fb96b3b4fe7aa8@mail.gmail.co m> References: <200802161041.08346.af300wsm@gmail.com> <7daacbbe0802171214t129d2945l8c035c15c242f95e@mail.gmail.com> <340a29540802191437m557b8e02w91fb96b3b4fe7aa8@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20080611214815.SM01608@TX2.Go2France.com> Subject: Re: IPv4 loopback address is missing, why? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:54:12 -0000 /etc/hosts : ::1 localhost.mydomain.tld localhost 127.0.0.1 localhost.mydomain.tld localhost /etc/defaults/rc.conf : ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" # default loopback device configuration. ... but ifconfig always shows no inet: lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 so we added to /etc/rc.conf : ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" ... still not inet4 loopback if (so commented it out). no errors in /var/log/messages, dmesg -a shows no error, ... other than services failing to grab ports on 127.0.0.1 thanks Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 19:56:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28591065684 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:56:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8D88FC24 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:56:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6WQq-0002To-JH; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:56:32 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m5BJuVYB030202; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:56:32 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3F8E6FCABAF; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:56:04 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:56:04 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Heikki Suonsivu Message-ID: <20080611195604.GA2881@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Heikki Suonsivu , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> <484FB168.1070900@otenet.gr> <484FDBF9.7010700@wlansystems.com> <20080611151334.GC1538@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <485019B9.7060502@wlansystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <485019B9.7060502@wlansystems.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:56:32 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:56:37 -0000 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 09:30:17PM +0300, Heikki Suonsivu wrote: > > Frank Shute wrote: > >On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 05:06:49PM +0300, Heikki Suonsivu wrote: > >>Oops, sorry, I was not specific enough: > >> > >>FreeBSD 4 or older NetBSD are no go: > >> > >>The computer I am doing this is not old, it is otherwise brand new, but > >>it uses an embedded cpu, a 486 clone as SoC without math. See > >>www.compactpc.com.tw, eBOX 2300SX. It is very low cost, runs on about > >>3W of power with CF card as mass memory, 128M, 3 USB2, serials, sound, > >>etc, it has VESA form factor so you can attach it behind many LCD > >>displays, etc. They have beefier models, but this one is cheapest and > >>uses least power, latter of which is the more critical requirement for us. > >> > >>We would like to use it for certain control applications. Linux works, > >>has been tested, but requires patches (turn math emulation on, add > >>support for built-in ethernet, bug workaround). > > > >I don't know if this machine is going to be sited on an insecure > >network or not. If it is, then you'll probably be using ssh. Without > >a math co-proc to do the crypto, it will be horrendous. I don't even > >know if ssh would work with an architecture without a maths unit. > > You apparently do not use the source :), go and grep double and float > from some of the most common programs you use (games, scientific stuff > and crappy UI code excused). No, I don't use the source :) I kind of assumed "It must do a lot with numbers, so it will run like a dog without a co-processor". > > > If it can't work with ssh, then you might be restricting your market. > > ssh does not use any floating point for any crypto algorithm. Oh, > openssh does use doubles, it prints some ratios in some places, such as > how many percent of something has been transferred. It seems to be > stirring random numbers as floating point non-exactness does is not a > bother there, but that is not used past session init. There is no > human-noticeable effect on normal ssh use. It was explained to me (off-list) that co-processors work on floats not ints. > > I was one of the first guinea pigs for original ssh. We did have plenty > of non-math cpus back then, and I did run ssh on non-fpu hardware until > two years ago. We did run backups and configuration tasks over ssh on > number of non-fpu computers acting as routers and other servers those > days. Today's games might be different, but that is not what we do on > these embedded computers... I didn't think you'd be having the odd game of Quake on one of your boxes. But think of it as an added feature! :) > > >I think you are punishing yourself unneccesarily by going with a > >processor without maths. You restrict the software (both OS & > >application) you can run. > > Applications cannot tell the difference between math emulation and > hardware from anything else than performance, so there is no code > difference in application layer, and kernel does not do fp at all, other > than trapping fpu instructions and emulating them on non-fpu hardware. > Kernel itself does not do fp math. > > I do not quite understand where this fear of non-fpu came from, as it > made no practical difference just few years ago for anything but > scientists in labs and intensive cad/graphics work. In particular I do > not understand why people have an idea that everything uses floating > point. Very few programs do heavy math processing, most common use is > to double divide two longs to print out some statistics when program ends. I used to do a lot of CAD and buying a machine without a co-processor was considered madness. That's where my prejudice comes from. > > >>The problem with is that while FreeBSD 4 seemed to boot on it, it did > >>not recognize any peripherals as they are new. Old OS's are not really > >>what we want, this is not one-off but volume product, it will be > >>internet-connected so we need bugfixes and we need support for latest > >>chipsets on 802.11 cards etc. > >> > >>There is another similar CPU, even slower and less power consuming, I do > >>not remember the part number, I think it was about 100 MHz 486 without > >>math as well. This was some manufacturer of microcontrollers. > > > >Can't you find a manufacturer that makes something similar with a DX > >instead? Or can you email this company and ask them how much it would > >cost to run off X units with a 486DX rather than SX? > > This is not 486, it is System-on-Chip thing. There are couple of very > cheap SoCs, which do not have math, but performance is otherwise > adequate for most applications. They are much faster than 486SX, by > 5-10 times factor, so they are becoming popular on embedded devices. I was referring to the 100MHz 486 you looked at. I'd still get an fpu so you can install a largely unpatched OS of your choice even if the fpu is redundant beyond installing the OS. I guess you looked at the Soekris stuff and discounted it. Shame, because a lot of folks find them useful with *BSD. > > >>Heikki > Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 20:03:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DF51065731 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D72E8FC21 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 8A7DD4728A3 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:03:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.MEIWay.com [127.0.0.1]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A1C9386902 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:03:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) X-AV-Checked: Wed Jun 11 22:03:53 2008 virusgate.meiway.com Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0B238684F for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:03:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from TX2.Go2France.com [66.90.247.9] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id AE538C5D01FA; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:58:11 +0200 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:03:13 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <200806112158843.SM01608@TX2.Go2France.com> Subject: Re: IPv4 loopback address is missing, why? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:03:50 -0000 and we can do this, too: ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 up then ifconfig shows: lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 thanks Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 20:05:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE931065674 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:05:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from mail.irbisnet.ru (mail.irbisnet.ru [194.186.18.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBF68FC12 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:05:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([85.172.11.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.irbisnet.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BK5RKj066075; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:05:35 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Message-ID: <48502FFD.3040900@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:05:17 +0400 From: Yuri Pankov User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Len Conrad References: <200802161041.08346.af300wsm@gmail.com> <7daacbbe0802171214t129d2945l8c035c15c242f95e@mail.gmail.com> <340a29540802191437m557b8e02w91fb96b3b4fe7aa8@mail.gmail.com> <20080611214815.SM01608@TX2.Go2France.com> In-Reply-To: <20080611214815.SM01608@TX2.Go2France.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPv4 loopback address is missing, why? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:05:38 -0000 Len Conrad wrote: > > /etc/hosts : > > ::1 localhost.mydomain.tld localhost > 127.0.0.1 localhost.mydomain.tld localhost > > > /etc/defaults/rc.conf : > > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" # default loopback device configuration. > > ... but ifconfig always shows no inet: > > lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > > > so we added to /etc/rc.conf : > > ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" > > ... still not inet4 loopback if (so commented it out). > > no errors in /var/log/messages, > dmesg -a shows no error, > ... other than services failing to grab ports on 127.0.0.1 > > > thanks > Len Do you have network_interfaces set to something different than "auto" in /etc/rc.conf? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 20:30:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262641065673 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:30:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hamilton@pobox.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93AE8FC25 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:30:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hamilton@pobox.com) Received: from pvr.pobox.com ([72.135.242.46]) by hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20080611200729.CYP17903.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@pvr.pobox.com>; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:07:29 +0000 Received: from mail.nethamilton.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pvr.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78CCA2C0D5; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:09:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 10.168.2.101 (SquirrelMail authenticated user hamilton) by mail.nethamilton.net with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:09:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <52774.10.168.2.101.1213214962.squirrel@mail.nethamilton.net> In-Reply-To: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> References: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:09:22 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jon Hamilton" To: "Heikki Suonsivu" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:30:19 -0000 On Wed, June 11, 2008 04:54, Heikki Suonsivu wrote: > I need to get something to run on x86 computers which do not contain > math in hardware, and FreeBSD dropped non-math cpus long time ago. NetBSD > did the same, so Linux seems to be the only possibility. > > So, the question: > > > What is the linux distro which is closest to FreeBSD in terms of > installation and use. A linux with basic userland and ports(-like) system, > and quick and easy install like FreeBSD ? Heikki, Gentoo (http://www.gentoo.org) is a pretty easy install and is the most closely aligned Linux distribution I've seen to the "build it from source" mentality. It's gotten fancier over the years but still has at its core the notion of building blocks and doesn't push binary package distribution the way most seem to these days. Whether it'll install on an FPU-less system I don't know. Might be worth a look. Please do report back with what you ultimately find works; this is a source of interest for me and I'm sure others. -- Jon Hamilton hamilton@pobox.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 20:37:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95324106567C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CDD8FC23 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:37:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1651287ywe.13 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:37:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:organization:to:subject :date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=w+1jdXb830B0QAOPHWhSjlpXjHaN4delQW5Nl0KQz1E=; b=vY9Ag96hw0URcT/b6gf8vQQ1iq7rwaFYLkiNMCQT7mTA19OouENqHZm8p7axGKhYAW Tpg4cIhBeqq3BVVnx/7a9cjZpZFg7ftCp3XodfEpOVwTXuyr5UvVYZAXNDJcCZPgCyIt kfuMPMUmrWoFP0UrXNcZ2+mwSukyQpvBAOTcQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=ZD3l4p9sMkgL0UZJcDnQ6Y1NmkPGwTCdvARzSvenzsneGVFvSEMpHd1URjraC5xTAt zlzo6mK7okrXb8Mmt+clWRnb/xRmSlGiXFZS23Vy43Hm0S+MQANd55mMrMRv3l7ZxS/2 I0HtwrkT3PFx71y3r//lGg2DV+qe9hTN1cbSA= Received: by 10.151.13.7 with SMTP id q7mr906878ybi.39.1213216276102; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?0.0.0.0? ( [196.34.241.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y45sm444292pyg.9.2008.06.11.13.31.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:31:15 -0700 (PDT) From: David Naylor Organization: Private To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:25:32 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1379916.VEKuhq0alM"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200806112225.36221.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Subject: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:37:45 -0000 --nextPart1379916.VEKuhq0alM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi All, Today I read an article describing how my government had lost ZAR200 000 00= 0=20 from fraud. This is just under $25 000 000. The article credited this los= s=20 largely due to the use of spyware. =20 My question is how secure is FreeBSD (including KDE, GNOME and XFCE) to=20 attacks, including cracking and spyware. In addition, is there anyway to=20 prevent a user from executing a program that is not owned by root (i.e. any= =20 program installed by the user), this would prevent spyware being installed= =20 (assuming root has been properly locked down) and subsequently run. =20 If anyone, in addition, has answers for Linux and *BSD it would be great to= =20 know as well. =20 Best Regards David --nextPart1379916.VEKuhq0alM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBIUDTAUaaFgP9pFrIRAiIcAJwOmkiXr6lRSB8O9T2CVJdh9Jdk+ACfYPgE kbniC4AeBls4POtZoRsLdHU= =nT4c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1379916.VEKuhq0alM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 20:39:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D506106568F for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:39:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122F18FC0C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:39:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 8760D4728A6; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:39:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.MEIWay.com [127.0.0.1]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B71538682E; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:39:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) X-AV-Checked: Wed Jun 11 22:39:37 2008 virusgate.meiway.com Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DEF386853; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:39:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from TX2.Go2France.com [66.90.247.9] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id A6B18FB001FA; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:33:53 +0200 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:39:01 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad In-Reply-To: <48502FFD.3040900@gmail.com> References: <200802161041.08346.af300wsm@gmail.com> <7daacbbe0802171214t129d2945l8c035c15c242f95e@mail.gmail.com> <340a29540802191437m557b8e02w91fb96b3b4fe7aa8@mail.gmail.com> <20080611214815.SM01608@TX2.Go2France.com> <48502FFD.3040900@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <200806112233359.SM01608@TX2.Go2France.com> Cc: bob_mcgregor Subject: Re: IPv4 loopback address is missing, why? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:39:34 -0000 >>/etc/hosts : >>::1 localhost.mydomain.tld localhost >>127.0.0.1 localhost.mydomain.tld localhost >> >>/etc/defaults/rc.conf : >>ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" # default loopback device configuration. >>... but ifconfig always shows no inet: >>lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 >> inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 >> inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 >> >>so we added to /etc/rc.conf : >>ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" >>... still not inet4 loopback if (so commented it out). >>no errors in /var/log/messages, >>dmesg -a shows no error, >>... other than services failing to grab ports on 127.0.0.1 >> >>thanks >>Len > >Do you have network_interfaces set to something different than >"auto" in /etc/rc.conf? I read this thread but missed that some pkg_add added network_interfaces in rc.conf, and left out "lo" thanks, Yuri Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 20:50:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7431065763 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:50:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from surferdamon@verizon.net) Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (vms046pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCAE8FC17 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:50:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from surferdamon@verizon.net) Received: from presario1.com ([70.104.148.131]) by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0K2B00KT5GK0EVY4@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:50:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:50:24 -0700 From: Damon Blom To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <48503A90.6020607@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080502) Cc: Subject: Unable to install freebsd on HP Proliant ML30 server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:50:42 -0000 CPU: Intel (R) Xeon (TM) cpu 2.40 gz (2399.93 mhz, 686-class cpu) Features = Logical CPU's per core:2 real memory 2047mb avail memory 1992mb MPTable : FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System detected: 2 cpu's cpu0 (BSP):APIC ID:0 cpu1(AP):APICID:6 acd0:CDROM at ata0-master UDMA33 da1: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986B31065678 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:55:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7178FC0A for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:55:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1655676ywe.13 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:55:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:organization:to:subject :date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=w+1jdXb830B0QAOPHWhSjlpXjHaN4delQW5Nl0KQz1E=; b=DU8J/rc0QNoGtMk5xhyjDmvpPq0JSBza8eqi2Yp/rFXbvaAq7+ZEDIzk5eMdwZk++h X8UcAIyK9QYf41J2GLEBFArKSK86nCE9YOfBlfigTlBnutk2psIgp0SaRf2x1DHcc0Kr lEoCBUFQ8fnLi7qmPVMMzLaqjx117xiDWuYYI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=ZD3l4p9sMkgL0UZJcDnQ6Y1NmkPGwTCdvARzSvenzsneGVFvSEMpHd1URjraC5xTAt zlzo6mK7okrXb8Mmt+clWRnb/xRmSlGiXFZS23Vy43Hm0S+MQANd55mMrMRv3l7ZxS/2 I0HtwrkT3PFx71y3r//lGg2DV+qe9hTN1cbSA= Received: by 10.150.49.2 with SMTP id w2mr902210ybw.27.1213215967795; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:26:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?0.0.0.0? ( [196.34.241.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f51sm427080pyh.36.2008.06.11.13.25.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:26:06 -0700 (PDT) From: David Naylor Organization: Private To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:25:32 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1379916.VEKuhq0alM"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200806112225.36221.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Subject: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:55:14 -0000 --nextPart1379916.VEKuhq0alM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi All, Today I read an article describing how my government had lost ZAR200 000 00= 0=20 from fraud. This is just under $25 000 000. The article credited this los= s=20 largely due to the use of spyware. =20 My question is how secure is FreeBSD (including KDE, GNOME and XFCE) to=20 attacks, including cracking and spyware. In addition, is there anyway to=20 prevent a user from executing a program that is not owned by root (i.e. any= =20 program installed by the user), this would prevent spyware being installed= =20 (assuming root has been properly locked down) and subsequently run. =20 If anyone, in addition, has answers for Linux and *BSD it would be great to= =20 know as well. =20 Best Regards David --nextPart1379916.VEKuhq0alM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBIUDTAUaaFgP9pFrIRAiIcAJwOmkiXr6lRSB8O9T2CVJdh9Jdk+ACfYPgE kbniC4AeBls4POtZoRsLdHU= =nT4c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1379916.VEKuhq0alM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 21:11:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A3F106567D for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B76D8FC13 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:11:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BLB9b2013276; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:11:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5BLB8xk013273; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:11:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:11:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: David Naylor In-Reply-To: <200806112225.36221.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080611231016.I13270@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200806112225.36221.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:11:16 -0000 > from fraud. This is just under $25 000 000. The article credited this loss > largely due to the use of spyware. > > My question is how secure is FreeBSD (including KDE, GNOME and XFCE) to do not include that programs to FreeBSD. they are not it's part. it's just few of thousand programs that can run under FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 21:12:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C3F106568F for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:12:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E478FC16 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:12:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FC251C005; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:12:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [10.4.16.222]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740CAF3863; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:12:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.kotnet.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5BLCFjb008753; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:12:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Tijl Coosemans To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Heikki Suonsivu Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:12:13 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> In-Reply-To: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806112312.14938.tijl@ulyssis.org> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-Spam-Status: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-50, required 5, autolearn=disabled, KUL_SMTPS -50.00) X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: tijl@ulyssis.org Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:12:24 -0000 On Wednesday 11 June 2008 11:54:07 Heikki Suonsivu wrote: > I need to get something to run on x86 computers which do not > contain math in hardware, and FreeBSD dropped non-math cpus long > time ago. NetBSD did the same, so Linux seems to be the only > possibility. This is the commit that removed it: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2003-July/007431.html It's probably not that difficult to reintroduce. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 21:23:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E609F1065673 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:23:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5F68FC14 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:23:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m5BLILej025923; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:18:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m5BLIL55025922; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:18:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:18:21 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: "fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com" Message-ID: <20080611211821.GB25793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:23:29 -0000 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:50:36PM +0800, fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com wrote: > Hi all, > > I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows: > > T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB nVIDIA > Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), Bluetooth, Modem, > 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c Li-Ion, > > My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm > from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling > and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I > am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or > another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. > > My questions are: > 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW, > wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important. > > 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary > Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial > softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary > compatibility stable enough for work ? It should run FreeBSD just fine. Check the hardware compatibility lists to check for specific peripherals. The Linux compatibility layer worked well. Should be no problem. ////jerry > > Thanks a lot. > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 21:28:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5951065673 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (a-sasl-quonix.sasl.smtp.pobox.com [208.72.237.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D49A8FC18 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LukeD@pobox.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a-sasl-quonix.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6DA1108; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:28:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lukas.is-a-geek.org (pool-71-113-98-220.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.113.98.220]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-sasl-quonix.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 464261107; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:28:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:28:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Dean X-X-Sender: lukas@border.lukas.is-a-geek.org To: Steve Lake In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20080611141050.00c44e58@192.168.0.30> Message-ID: <20080611142417.V39530@border.lukas.is-a-geek.org> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20080611141050.00c44e58@192.168.0.30> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 50F87F14-37FD-11DD-B63F-B8BFEAD4C077-96347044!a-sasl-quonix.pobox.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about torrents via console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Luke Dean List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:28:23 -0000 > Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents before via > the graphical interface before, but I want to setup a way to download isos > and various FOSS apps via bittorrent, but I want to do it via the console so > I can start a torrent in screen and then walk away, allowing my server to > finish the work without having to leave my main workstation running to do the > work like I normally do. I'm using bittornado right now, and if there's a > way to do this, I'd love to know how. I run bittornado's btlaunchmany.py script through screen (sysutils/screen) for the very reason you describe. It's been working great for years. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 21:47:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D941065674 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:47:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5B48FC19 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:47:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5BLlh2M056061; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:47:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 506F1BA8C; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:47:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:47:43 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: David Naylor Message-ID: <20080611214743.GA18371@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <200806112225.36221.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200806112225.36221.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:47:45 -0000 --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25:32PM +0200, David Naylor wrote: > Hi All, >=20 > Today I read an article describing how my government had lost ZAR200 000 = 000=20 > from fraud. This is just under $25 000 000. The article credited this l= oss=20 > largely due to the use of spyware. =20 >=20 > My question is how secure is FreeBSD (including KDE, GNOME and XFCE) to= =20 > attacks, including cracking and spyware.=20 That is a very broad question without a simple answer. It depends among other things on the purpose of the machine and the knowledge of the administrator.=20 E.g, if you are creating a workstation that doesn't run externally accessible servers you could configure the firewall to block all incoming new connection requests. That will go a long way toward safeguarding the machine against network attacks. There is no way to safeguard a machine that an attacker has physical access to; he could e.g. steal the harddisk and read your data at his leisure (unless it is encrypted on-disk, e.g. with geli(8)). Also, no OS can defend against social engineering attacks.=20 I would not worry overly much about spyware. Most if not all of those are windows binaries. Also, unix mail clients as a rule do not execute scripts embedded in mail messages. > In addition, is there anyway to=20 > prevent a user from executing a program that is not owned by root (i.e. a= ny=20 > program installed by the user), this would prevent spyware being installe= d=20 > (assuming root has been properly locked down) and subsequently run. =20 You could mount /home and other partitions where users have write access like /tmp with the noexec option. Note that that wouldn't block the executi= on of scripts, just binaries. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhQR/8ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXgwQCdFqXH7olIT3IOsWOAfmO9V+bX Ei8AoItCOmn8zMPQlCK+xkTSTxandpKl =VveH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 22:03:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DAE91065671 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [64.81.218.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58A18FC1F for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 38023 invoked by uid 1008); 11 Jun 2008 23:05:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kalins-macbook-pro.local) (kalin@el.net@68.173.244.62) by mail.el.net with ESMTPA; 11 Jun 2008 23:05:56 -0000 Message-ID: <48504BCD.9000106@el.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:03:57 -0400 From: kalin m User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4844293F.7020507@el.net> <484438B1.5020202@unsane.co.uk> <484441D8.8050207@el.net> <48445F45.70604@unsane.co.uk> <48448134.9080808@el.net> <20080609085828.GA27082@dt1.in-muc.ciao.com> In-Reply-To: <20080609085828.GA27082@dt1.in-muc.ciao.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: mfi freebsd7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:03:59 -0000 in case somebody gets stuck as i was - here are detailed instruction and the CORRECT ORDER in which the needed kernel modules HAVE to be loaded in order for the megacli to work properly... big thanks to Christoph Schug.... Christoph Schug wrote: > On Mon, Jun 02, 2008, kalin m wrote: > > >> thanks Vince... i didnt wanted to install the linux base because a lot of >> kids will be running some 'cool' boards or blogs that probably have cool >> linux holes too. but just for the hell of it and for he purpose to get to >> the controller i did. it took a while to find the >> Linux_MegaCli_1.01.09.zip. it's not on the freebsd site and not on the LSI >> site (anymore) either.. anyway after a lot of rpm downloads and patching >> and variable changing and fs mountings i get this: >> >> # /usr/local/sbin/megacli -adpCount >> ERROR:Could not detect controller. >> >> Controller Count: 0. >> > > From my experience there are some pitfalls when using the > sysutils/linux-megacli port. First of all you need the mfi_linux.ko > kernel module loaded. Moreover, this module has to be loaded _before_ > the Linux ABI stuff (linux.ko, linprocfs.ko, linsysfs.ko). So starting > with a pretty sane list of loaded kernel modules ... > > | # kldstat > | Id Refs Address Size Name > | 1 3 0xffffffff80100000 6eeea8 kernel > | 2 1 0xffffffff807ef000 14d0 accf_http.ko > | 3 1 0xffffffffb449f000 1fce nullfs.ko > | # kldload mfi_linux.ko > | # kldload linprocfs.ko linsysfs.ko > | # kldstat > | Id Refs Address Size Name > | 1 15 0xffffffff80100000 6eeea8 kernel > | 2 1 0xffffffff807ef000 14d0 accf_http.ko > | 3 1 0xffffffffb449f000 1fce nullfs.ko > | 7 1 0xffffffffb44a1000 3af mfi_linux.ko > | 8 3 0xffffffffb44a2000 18a6a linux.ko > | 9 1 0xffffffffb44bb000 350c linprocfs.ko > | 10 1 0xffffffffb469a000 9d3 linsysfs.ko > | # mount -t linprocfs linproc /compat/linux/proc > | # mount -t linsysfs linsys /compat/linux/sys > | # cat /compat/linux/sys/class/scsi_host/host*/proc_name > | megaraid_sas > | megaraid_sas > > In case you haven't loaded mfi_linux.ko before the other Linux ABI > stuff, you will see '(null)' entries here instead of 'megaraid_sas'. > Furthermore, the compat.linux.osrelease sysctl should be set to 2.6.12. > > | # sysctl -w compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.12 > | compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 -> 2.6.12 > > If everything is fine, you should be able to query your RAID controller: > > | # megacli -LDInfo -LALL -aALL | grep ^State: > | State: Optimal > | State: Optimal > > This has been tested on a Dell PowerEdge 2970 with both an PERC5/i and > PERC5/e controller running FreeBSD 7.0/amd64. > > | # pciconf -lv | grep ^mfi > | mfi0@pci0:8:14:0: class=0x010400 card=0x1f031028 chip=0x00151028 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 > | mfi1@pci0:15:14:0: class=0x010400 card=0x1f011028 chip=0x00151028 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 > > -cs > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 22:46:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374AA1065681 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:46:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WZ=e8b8e417@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096128FC13 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:46:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+WZ=e8b8e417@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1FA23E54E for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:46:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:46:54 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080611234654.11cfb96a@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20080611141050.00c44e58@192.168.0.30> References: <5.2.0.9.2.20080611141050.00c44e58@192.168.0.30> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Question about torrents via console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:46:58 -0000 On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:16:29 -0400 Steve Lake wrote: > Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents > before via the graphical interface before, but I want to setup a way > to download isos and various FOSS apps via bittorrent, but I want to > do it via the console so I can start a torrent in screen and then > walk away, allowing my server to finish the work without having to > leave my main workstation running to do the work like I normally do. You might also consider mldonkey, which does the the file sharing via a daemon (mlnet) which you can connect to via various methods, including telnet, a web interface, and several GUI applications. It's primarily an ed2k client and its BT support isn't very sophisticated, but it does have the advantage that the daemon will start from rc.d and run in the background without any manual intervention. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 22:54:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90447106566C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:54:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374EA8FC1B for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:54:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so829876ana.13 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.41.15 with SMTP id o15mr735709ano.48.1213224885653; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio ( [67.189.233.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm554864wrs.22.2008.06.11.15.54.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:54:30 -0400 From: Gerard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080611185430.7e95058e@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q X-Operating-System: FreeBSD-6.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/WU7a8K7fsAoSat9lwHwzs.V"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Perl 5.10.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:54:53 -0000 --Sig_/WU7a8K7fsAoSat9lwHwzs.V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just before FBSD-7 was released, I asked if Perl 5.10.0 would be included in the new version. I was informed that it would not be; however, it would be released shortly after FBSD-7 was released. Well, FBSD-7 has been out for a while now; however, I still do not see the updated version of Perl. Is there any specific reason that it has not been released? --=20 Gerard gerard@seibercom.net Genius is the talent of a person who is dead. --Sig_/WU7a8K7fsAoSat9lwHwzs.V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhQV64ACgkQ6DWTaTcTwMmLCgCgq549GfmCMTTpGGbux12Daauk 8gEAoJwPhcwVV0BKJOlh8x04ZfFvmqxR =gHru -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/WU7a8K7fsAoSat9lwHwzs.V-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 21:03:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857591065671 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:03:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidfeustel@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D88F8FC1C for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:03:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidfeustel@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by QMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cbT51Z00U0cQ2SLA10Yt00; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:47:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([69.245.196.200]) by OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cknB1Z00B4KuD458WknCKK; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:47:13 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=IbiW8lfIFwt9GK970O0A:9 a=CChghbCJtJg_cf5QwVbkHbV4E1kA:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 From: YANSWBVCG To: David Naylor In-Reply-To: <200806112225.36221.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Message-Id: <20080611210313.6D88F8FC1C@mx1.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:03:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:13:26 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:03:13 -0000 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25:32PM +0200, David Naylor wrote: > Hi All, > > Today I read an article describing how my government had lost ZAR200 000 000 > from fraud. This is just under $25 000 000. The article credited this loss > largely due to the use of spyware. > > My question is how secure is FreeBSD (including KDE, GNOME and XFCE) to > attacks, including cracking and spyware. In addition, is there anyway to > prevent a user from executing a program that is not owned by root (i.e. any > program installed by the user), this would prevent spyware being installed > (assuming root has been properly locked down) and subsequently run. > > If anyone, in addition, has answers for Linux and *BSD it would be great to > know as well. > > Best Regards > > David It is my understanding that since 1995 all computers must have a hardware back door that permits undetectable access by the government to the computer. This capability can be implemented using System Monitor(Maintenance) Mode which is built into all x86 computers now. It would appear that, if you are connected to the internet, the government has access to your computer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 23:53:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01E21065676 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5338FC18 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A8911496F; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:53:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:53:20 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: JqElTTiDRFosknYeQKpG/MVlHqwnk1gWqnVm4qx55XqG 1213228399 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 92832235FB; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:53:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <81D4CA85-1FE1-48BD-9089-F90B2674B2E2@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: YANSWBVCG In-Reply-To: <20080611210313.6D88F8FC1C@mx1.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:53:18 -0500 References: <20080611210313.6D88F8FC1C@mx1.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: David Naylor , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:53:21 -0000 [mailed and posted] On Jun 11, 2008, at 4:03 PM, YANSWBVCG wrote: > It is my understanding that since 1995 all computers must have a > hardware back door that permits undetectable access by the > government to > the computer. This capability can be implemented using System > Monitor(Maintenance) Mode which is built into all x86 computers now. > It > would appear that, if you are connected to the internet, the > government > has access to your computer. This is not the place to get into this debate, but I think that someone should state for the record that the vast majority of security experts would disagree with you. However, I fully acknowledge that if the National Security Agency or GCHQ or the like wanted to break into any one of my systems, I'm sure that they could. But the question wasn't about making a system that could withstand something like the NSA but instead about defending against run of the mill spyware. Switching from Windows to FreeBSD would obviously improve matters for that kind of attack, but the real answers to the original question require an understanding of the nature of the threats and the nature of the counter measures far beyond what was evident in the question. After all, most spyware is installed with the users' consent (though the user may not know that it is sypware.) For just about everyone, I recommend pretty much anything written by Bruce Schneier. As as start there is his very brief "How to think about security" essay: http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0204.html#1 -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 23:54:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6186D1065674 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:54:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pcloches@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6328FC19 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:54:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pcloches@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so4036726rvf.43 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:54:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Y+n4AIS34QOaqz5Fyj/a75I7DWf84dZqvRMyHt6d5io=; b=rghP/pldIYchk30aJ3//WD0i1blp18Aq4irREPMw8tGaQgsW2UShJZKCGE+MkNMZGR mSJF1BO3InKE8rsUNr6xV7ALrBybjIuS4ayQWlRUqj2MZONRqHFvPgf3oQAXYUsO+SI9 LNRt7EsMf3MXaFmQzCSxvVNObBUmhOn0smgB8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=l7tVhzZL72UrR9jV47hySVhvAua8UmlgWh++v2SHdCwUh6X9tIvCk5VTozQEgnZliP ZVRb8tWv5xII57hIS74Dhv4SYOQGTOBeJrlGZ8iBlvLaQX22SZLuvaeLrNvnalRh36cc D/Qvvqcoa5HtSMamH0QpRHpjIikuYb4BeJVKo= Received: by 10.114.12.10 with SMTP id 10mr667278wal.190.1213228451192; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.194.8 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <34394a3a0806111654y20f56a18s18927bda716e3b6a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:54:06 -0700 From: "Patrick C" To: "kalin m" In-Reply-To: <48504BCD.9000106@el.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4844293F.7020507@el.net> <484438B1.5020202@unsane.co.uk> <484441D8.8050207@el.net> <48445F45.70604@unsane.co.uk> <48448134.9080808@el.net> <20080609085828.GA27082@dt1.in-muc.ciao.com> <48504BCD.9000106@el.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mfi freebsd7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:54:12 -0000 Great info, Kalin. I have several boxes with LSI controllers, the PERC 5i works wonderfully with FreeBSD (though the Dell 6850 sucks), and I have a couple boxes with Supermicro boards with built-in LSI MegaRaid, however it's done in software. This means that the mfi controller works fine as individual disks, but will not support any RAID levels in FreeBSD. You're probably almost as well off using gmirror anyway. I've started using 3ware cards again after a bit of a hiatus and they work great, and the FreeBSD support is good. My next experiment is going to be some HighPoint cards. I'm not sure at this point I wold trust them with my important data, but what's cool is they are very inexpensive cards, show up in computer stores like Fry's, and seem to have pretty decent FreeBSD support for their size. I'm going to try an 8-port in my desktop (I use it for some pretty serious MySQL work at times) soon... IMHO if the cards are decent it'd be nice to reward them for their efforts by putting some money their way. -Patrick 2008/6/11 kalin m : > > in case somebody gets stuck as i was - here are detailed instruction and the > CORRECT ORDER in which the needed kernel modules HAVE to be loaded in order > for the megacli to work properly... > > big thanks to Christoph Schug.... > > > > Christoph Schug wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jun 02, 2008, kalin m wrote: >> >> >>> >>> thanks Vince... i didnt wanted to install the linux base because a lot >>> of kids will be running some 'cool' boards or blogs that probably have cool >>> linux holes too. but just for the hell of it and for he purpose to get to >>> the controller i did. it took a while to find the Linux_MegaCli_1.01.09.zip. >>> it's not on the freebsd site and not on the LSI site (anymore) either.. >>> anyway after a lot of rpm downloads and patching and variable changing and >>> fs mountings i get this: >>> >>> # /usr/local/sbin/megacli -adpCount >>> ERROR:Could not detect controller. >>> >>> Controller Count: 0. >>> >> >> From my experience there are some pitfalls when using the >> sysutils/linux-megacli port. First of all you need the mfi_linux.ko >> kernel module loaded. Moreover, this module has to be loaded _before_ >> the Linux ABI stuff (linux.ko, linprocfs.ko, linsysfs.ko). So starting >> with a pretty sane list of loaded kernel modules ... >> >> | # kldstat | Id Refs Address Size Name >> | 1 3 0xffffffff80100000 6eeea8 kernel >> | 2 1 0xffffffff807ef000 14d0 accf_http.ko >> | 3 1 0xffffffffb449f000 1fce nullfs.ko >> | # kldload mfi_linux.ko >> | # kldload linprocfs.ko linsysfs.ko >> | # kldstat | Id Refs Address Size Name >> | 1 15 0xffffffff80100000 6eeea8 kernel >> | 2 1 0xffffffff807ef000 14d0 accf_http.ko >> | 3 1 0xffffffffb449f000 1fce nullfs.ko >> | 7 1 0xffffffffb44a1000 3af mfi_linux.ko >> | 8 3 0xffffffffb44a2000 18a6a linux.ko >> | 9 1 0xffffffffb44bb000 350c linprocfs.ko >> | 10 1 0xffffffffb469a000 9d3 linsysfs.ko >> | # mount -t linprocfs linproc /compat/linux/proc >> | # mount -t linsysfs linsys /compat/linux/sys >> | # cat /compat/linux/sys/class/scsi_host/host*/proc_name >> | megaraid_sas >> | megaraid_sas >> >> In case you haven't loaded mfi_linux.ko before the other Linux ABI >> stuff, you will see '(null)' entries here instead of 'megaraid_sas'. >> Furthermore, the compat.linux.osrelease sysctl should be set to 2.6.12. >> >> | # sysctl -w compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.12 >> | compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 -> 2.6.12 >> >> If everything is fine, you should be able to query your RAID controller: >> >> | # megacli -LDInfo -LALL -aALL | grep ^State: >> | State: Optimal >> | State: Optimal >> >> This has been tested on a Dell PowerEdge 2970 with both an PERC5/i and >> PERC5/e controller running FreeBSD 7.0/amd64. >> >> | # pciconf -lv | grep ^mfi >> | mfi0@pci0:8:14:0: class=0x010400 card=0x1f031028 chip=0x00151028 >> rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 >> | mfi1@pci0:15:14:0: class=0x010400 card=0x1f011028 chip=0x00151028 >> rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 >> >> -cs >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 00:17:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DF41065675 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidfeustel@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B718FC1B for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:17:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidfeustel@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ck6J1Z01G0EPchoA909V00; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:17:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([69.245.196.200]) by OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id coGr1Z00U4KuD458MoGsJn; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:16:53 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hrUF0U46AAAA:8 a=69Ac5t1axnzlAdG_NdsA:9 a=WKZGEHlefl9i_50gaejBtR8IpksA:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 From: dfeustel@mindspring.com To: Jeffrey Goldberg In-Reply-To: <81D4CA85-1FE1-48BD-9089-F90B2674B2E2@goldmark.org> Message-Id: <20080612001713.D1B718FC1B@mx1.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Naylor , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:17:14 -0000 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 06:53:18PM -0500, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > [mailed and posted] > > On Jun 11, 2008, at 4:03 PM, YANSWBVCG wrote: > >> It is my understanding that since 1995 all computers must have a >> hardware back door that permits undetectable access by the government to >> the computer. This capability can be implemented using System >> Monitor(Maintenance) Mode which is built into all x86 computers now. It >> would appear that, if you are connected to the internet, the government >> has access to your computer. > > This is not the place to get into this debate, but I think that someone > should state for the record that the vast majority of security experts > would disagree with you. A relatively new security threat known as 'The Blue Pill', based upon hardware, is a class of virtual rootkits that can silently take over Intel and AMD systems. A good site to visit to learn about these virtual rootkits is http://invisiblethings.org/index.html. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 00:45:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1347D1065678 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:45:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57BB8FC19 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:45:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457BF115366; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:45:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:45:53 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: UNKUYTCA5wMXD44LTzV8i3spHrur6AhgymkXxNzRJROo 1213231552 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B7A132BBFA; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:45:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: dfeustel@mindspring.com In-Reply-To: <20080612001713.D1B718FC1B@mx1.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:45:51 -0500 References: <20080612001713.D1B718FC1B@mx1.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: FreeBSD List Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:45:54 -0000 On Jun 11, 2008, at 7:17 PM, dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote: > A relatively new security threat known as 'The Blue Pill', based upon > hardware, is a class of virtual rootkits that can silently take over > Intel and AMD systems. A good site to visit to learn about these > virtual > rootkits is http://invisiblethings.org/index.html. That is simple (in concept) yet absolutely brilliant! I'm sure that people much smarter that I am have thought about these things more carefully than I have, but I'm not convinced that a blue pill would be completely undetectable. First it should consume memory. A very complete test of memory through a modified memtest should be able to detect whether system reported memory is accurate. Secondly, a blue pill would need to be reinserted after a hard reboot. Therefore a look at the boot process (of a non-live system) should be able to see whether there is something that reinserts the blue pill. But even if detection is possible these ways, a Blue Pill would be extremely difficult to detect once inserted, and so the focus would have to be entirely on prevention. Again, these are just my first thoughts after looking at this very briefly. The people who come up with this stuff and do proper analysis are both smarter and more knowledgeable than I am. Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 00:47:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF6D106566C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:47:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [64.7.153.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C918FC1D for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:47:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smtp2.sentex.ca (smtp2c.sentex.ca [64.7.153.30]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5C0ksVl064030; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:46:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.0.137] (p188ds3inxs.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca [67.43.135.189]) by smtp2.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5C0krPm037654; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:46:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Message-ID: <485071FD.8020504@sentex.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:46:53 -0400 From: Andrew Berry User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeffrey Goldberg References: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> <20080611161436.GA9276@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20080611163515.GA8032@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <85FE1FA5-D917-43D8-B959-C70A00A41A7A@goldmark.org> In-Reply-To: <85FE1FA5-D917-43D8-B959-C70A00A41A7A@goldmark.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040502080303000007030105" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/7040/Mon May 5 21:52:15 2008 clamav-milter version 0.93 on clamscanner4 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 64.7.153.18 Cc: freebsd@celestial.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: generating random passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:47:04 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040502080303000007030105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > I don't run FreeBSD on desktops so I haven't looked at the various tools > available. On OS X, I use 1password which makes excellent use of the OS > X Keychain system, and has terrific webbrowser integration. I'm fairly > sure that the Apple Keychain libraries have been or can be ported to > FreeBSD, but it might require GnuStep. Any idea what the name of the project for the Security framework is? I can't seem to find anything on Google. I'd love to be able to access keychains from OS X on other platforms, without resorting to dumping everything to plaintext. --Andrew --------------ms040502080303000007030105 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIMjjCC BkMwggUroAMCAQICEQC38LypwNnyJwW+s72BPxr8MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMIGuMQswCQYD VQQGEwJVUzELMAkGA1UECBMCVVQxFzAVBgNVBAcTDlNhbHQgTGFrZSBDaXR5MR4wHAYDVQQK ExVUaGUgVVNFUlRSVVNUIE5ldHdvcmsxITAfBgNVBAsTGGh0dHA6Ly93d3cudXNlcnRydXN0 LmNvbTE2MDQGA1UEAxMtVVROLVVTRVJGaXJzdC1DbGllbnQgQXV0aGVudGljYXRpb24gYW5k IEVtYWlsMB4XDTA3MTEwMjAwMDAwMFoXDTA4MTEwMTIzNTk1OVowgd4xNTAzBgNVBAsTLENv bW9kbyBUcnVzdCBOZXR3b3JrIC0gUEVSU09OQSBOT1QgVkFMSURBVEVEMUYwRAYDVQQLEz1U ZXJtcyBhbmQgQ29uZGl0aW9ucyBvZiB1c2U6IGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuY29tb2RvLm5ldC9yZXBv 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aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3728C8FC0C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:03:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5C13DEM027981 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:03:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:03:07 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080612010303.GA81167@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: need mysql help setting passwd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:03:12 -0000 the question is: how do I set the root password on mysql? this is a first step in getting phpbb3 up. i have other CMS tools installed on aristotle, m jail where my webserver runs. this failed: mysqladmin -u root password mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)' according to my logs it has been about 5 years since i did this last. advice please! gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 01:08:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDEA106567D for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidfeustel@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046618FC13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:08:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidfeustel@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by QMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cfw31Z00m0QuhwU520Sb00; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:08:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([69.245.196.200]) by OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cp8P1Z00D4KuD453Np8P0d; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:08:24 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hrUF0U46AAAA:8 a=IJm1Sf8CAAAA:8 a=KHwgtJr-qfkjBYa76ZYA:9 a=ZgY2xh9C7MyvimLlrPEA:7 a=sbNtxCtIhwcU3oEXwuA295RkCuUA:4 a=OS7PZEPQ3MUA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 From: dfeustel@mindspring.com To: Jeffrey Goldberg In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20080612010828.046618FC13@mx1.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: FreeBSD List Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:08:28 -0000 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 07:45:51PM -0500, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > On Jun 11, 2008, at 7:17 PM, dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote: > >> A relatively new security threat known as 'The Blue Pill', based upon >> hardware, is a class of virtual rootkits that can silently take over >> Intel and AMD systems. A good site to visit to learn about these virtual >> rootkits is http://invisiblethings.org/index.html. > > That is simple (in concept) yet absolutely brilliant! I'm sure that people > much smarter that I am have thought about these things more carefully than > I have, but I'm not convinced that a blue pill would be completely > undetectable. Check out also http://bluepillproject.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 01:08:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333A91065682 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB058FC2A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECE83535C; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:08:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:08:51 +0200 From: cpghost To: Jeffrey Goldberg Message-ID: <20080612030851.032afa26@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20080612001713.D1B718FC1B@mx1.freebsd.org> Organization: Cordula's Web X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD List , dfeustel@mindspring.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:08:56 -0000 On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:45:51 -0500 Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > On Jun 11, 2008, at 7:17 PM, dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote: > > > A relatively new security threat known as 'The Blue Pill', based > > upon hardware, is a class of virtual rootkits that can silently > > take over Intel and AMD systems. A good site to visit to learn > > about these virtual > > rootkits is http://invisiblethings.org/index.html. > > That is simple (in concept) yet absolutely brilliant! I'm sure that > people much smarter that I am have thought about these things more > carefully than I have, but I'm not convinced that a blue pill would > be completely undetectable. > > First it should consume memory. A very complete test of memory > through a modified memtest should be able to detect whether system > reported memory is accurate. What if memtest already runs within the virtualization box? How can it determine what the "right" amount of memory is supposed to be? And if the virtualizer hot-patched memtest instructions, either on loading it or dynamically while it runs, it could make it report whatever it liked. > Secondly, a blue pill would need to be reinserted after a hard > reboot. Therefore a look at the boot process (of a non-live system) > should be able to see whether there is something that reinserts the > blue pill. Yes, but you've got to have a very close look at it, as it won't necessarily appear on the screen -- being caught as well by the virtualizer. And Joanna also has a paper about fooling hardware capture cards into reporting bogus data on her site, so you won't even be able to detect that RAM contains something else upon boot than those hardware capture cards are supposedly reporting. If all this is as she's described, it is truly brilliant from a technical POV... and a very worrying thought as well. > But even if detection is possible these ways, a Blue Pill would be > extremely difficult to detect once inserted, and so the focus would > have to be entirely on prevention. > > Again, these are just my first thoughts after looking at this very > briefly. The people who come up with this stuff and do proper > analysis are both smarter and more knowledgeable than I am. > > Cheers, > > -j -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 01:19:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCFC1065679 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from bulwark.hamla.org (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AD28FC24 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:19:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (bulwark [69.55.228.210]) by bulwark.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D40A1CDC2; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:19:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at bulwark.hamla.org Received: from bulwark.hamla.org ([69.55.228.210]) by localhost (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id UoPHvocU6I1Y; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:19:26 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20080612011925.GA634@shepherd> Mail-Followup-To: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20080612010303.GA81167@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080612010303.GA81167@thought.org> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: need mysql help setting passwd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:19:38 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > the question is: how do I set the root password on mysql? this is a > first step in getting phpbb3 up. i have other CMS tools installed > on aristotle, m jail where my webserver runs. > > this failed: > > > mysqladmin -u root password > mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed > error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)' Start here: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/access-denied.html -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 01:33:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8BC1065677 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+W2=45d47531@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D362F8FC14 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:33:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+W2=45d47531@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97B9163D94 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:18:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1390323E3EF for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:18:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:17:59 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080612021759.35dc0838@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <48501F44.3010606@sentex.net> References: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> <48501F44.3010606@sentex.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: generating random passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:33:45 -0000 On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:53:56 -0400 Andrew Berry wrote: > Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Excuse me my ignorance. Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would > > allow me to generate random passwords without actually creating any > > accounts or modifying existing ones? I am looking for something to > > allow me to generate a random string of characters. I know I can > > randomly hit the keyboard but if anything like that exists, many > > thanks for your advice. :) > > > > Best regards, > I've used pwgen from ports. It sounds similar to the other > suggestions. There are actually two versions of this in ports: sysutils/pwgen and sysutils/pwgen2. The latter is an independent rewrite rather than a version 2, and seems to be much more secure. The problem with pwgen is that its PRNG is very weakly seeded, making it vulnerable to simple brute-force attacks. As most of the entropy comes from the time (in *integer* seconds), it's particularly weak if an attacker knows roughly when the password was generated. An attacker with local access may even be able to compute the passwords directly. pwgen2 gets random numbers directly from /dev/random, which is how it should be. IMO pwgen should be removed from the ports tree, or failing that should be patched to use arc4random(), which is self-seeding. I don't really see the point in keeping it though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 01:17:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047591065675 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkjp@charter.net) Received: from mail.cluebytwelve.org (clueby12.org [198.186.190.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC3F8FC14 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:17:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkjp@charter.net) Received: from localdomain.local (68-186-133-111.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com [68.186.133.111]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cluebytwelve.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A8C1B5CA for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:54:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: by localdomain.local (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E5CD3B880; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:54:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:54:53 -0500 From: "J. Porter Clark" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080612005453.GA26319@auricle.charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: http://www.angelfire.com/ego/porterclark/ User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (FreeBSD) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:42:51 +0000 Subject: Nanobsd on a CD-ROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:17:37 -0000 Is it possible to build a CD-ROM with a bootable NanoBSD on it? If so, how? -- J. Porter Clark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 01:44:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2FB106566C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:44:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjgonzale@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E83E8FC13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:44:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rjgonzale@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1707670ywe.13 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:44:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gpS0KK5lP2Fd7GYCTZZm5pCfUxiigkMlpweHfQfYkg0=; b=XJ1sghFrVOMx50T7dPluo5ZWpIXOggRO5DbwA72BdecI3jaPS+g1T5ue9VV1f4h32I cSy8wWu4NHptVL8lBC/YGDV5IjO7lHEUs3fofSA4pGpVpD9IAJSCQZ5vpLl1l3QDDLph eVN/Xfhv1q8bXbEjBamqEx78bPBZR9ObMjgyc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dOlV9d5UY65tNLrvdHBQfFYbp19Psfkx3uNBZko0LyCqAseghZmtEVWfdW4+fBnDf8 CaO+hEPbWm8gpoRCBonsA+AE+jZwKqo4nZivlOfJKyaUKvq8nBjJ39MVDMSwhVeqNCx8 QFiI2MGJ1hImjFY4e6YMYiLYQLERRQxYRmW60= Received: by 10.150.198.20 with SMTP id v20mr1275508ybf.151.1213233459183; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? ( [190.18.168.30]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm652752ywp.3.2008.06.11.18.17.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4850792C.7050200@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:17:32 -0300 From: Rodrigo Gonzalez User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20080612010303.GA81167@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20080612010303.GA81167@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: need mysql help setting passwd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:44:38 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > this failed: > > > mysqladmin -u root password > mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed > error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)' > > > according to my logs it has been about 5 years since i did this last. > > advice please! > > gary > > > Your mysql server already has a password for user root. 2 options 1 - mysqladmin -u root -p password Of course I think you dont know current password or you wouldnt be asking....so second option Read http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html#resetting-permissions-unix with that steps you will reset root password Best regards Rodrigo Gonzalez From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 01:51:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B631065674 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01E68FC14 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E5E11554C; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:51:18 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: PXP9aNMKdLDyjknFH7t/angP+SxFB3QTDC3+RwpWdyOR 1213235477 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A292F130DA; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:51:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <81EBB0C0-AC7A-42EE-A128-BA70ADCC336B@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: cpghost In-Reply-To: <20080612030851.032afa26@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:51:16 -0500 References: <20080612001713.D1B718FC1B@mx1.freebsd.org> <20080612030851.032afa26@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: FreeBSD List , dfeustel@mindspring.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:51:19 -0000 On Jun 11, 2008, at 8:08 PM, cpghost wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:45:51 -0500 > Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: >> First it should consume memory. A very complete test of memory >> through a modified memtest should be able to detect whether system >> reported memory is accurate. > What if memtest already runs within the virtualization box? How can it > determine what the "right" amount of memory is supposed to be? I was assuming that that would be known by the operator. > And if > the virtualizer hot-patched memtest instructions, either on loading it > or dynamically while it runs, it could make it report whatever it > liked. Of course. >> Secondly, a blue pill would need to be reinserted after a hard >> reboot. Therefore a look at the boot process (of a non-live system) >> should be able to see whether there is something that reinserts the >> blue pill. > Yes, but you've got to have a very close look at it, as it won't > necessarily appear on the screen -- being caught as well by the > virtualizer. And Joanna also has a paper about fooling hardware > capture cards into reporting bogus data on her site, so you won't > even be able to detect that RAM contains something else upon boot > than those hardware capture cards are supposedly reporting. Yes. I've now read through some of Rutowska's slides (following the link provided by dfeustel in another post in this thread). > If all this is as she's described, it is truly brilliant from a > technical POV... and a very worrying thought as well. Yes it is worrying. The next time I reboot the one server I've got with an SVM capable processor I'm going to disconnect the power (to make sure that I'm getting a real reboot instead of a spoofed one) and then on reboot I will disable SVM in the BIOS. But mostly I'm just in admiration of people who can think of things this clever (even if they are very scary and dangerous things). Thank y'all for a very enlightening discussion. -j From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 01:52:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E701065686 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:52:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978228FC1E for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:52:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6bz5-0003eP-3J; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:52:15 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m5C1qEo5008438; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:52:14 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BA912FCABAF; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:51:46 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:51:46 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Andrew Berry Message-ID: <20080612015146.GA3875@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Andrew Berry , z.szalbot@lc-words.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> <48501F44.3010606@sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48501F44.3010606@sentex.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:52:14 +0100 (BST) Cc: z.szalbot@lc-words.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: generating random passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:52:20 -0000 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 02:53:56PM -0400, Andrew Berry wrote: > > Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >Excuse me my ignorance. Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would allow > >me to generate random passwords without actually creating any accounts > >or modifying existing ones? I am looking for something to allow me to > >generate a random string of characters. I know I can randomly hit the > >keyboard but if anything like that exists, many thanks for your > >advice. :) > > > >Best regards, > > I've used pwgen from ports. It sounds similar to the other suggestions. > I like sysutils/pwgen too. In it's default state it will give a screenful of semi-pronounceable passwords from which you pick one. It can also be used in a shell script to generate single passwords. Having the password semi-pronounceable avoids the sticky-note problem to a large extent as they're easy to learn. Can also generate gibberish, if that's your choice. Widely tunable. For password containment i.e all my online passwords, I use a shell script with gpg and a strong password. So in theory, I only have to remember my user login and the password for gpg. In practice, I remember a few more that I use regularly. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 02:02:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD34106566B for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4FD8FC0C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:02:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D255114F77; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:02:34 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: US2LzNbci4XdR7p1COxXGYFtNhoUVg7LCGlGvRC3RXj+ 1213236154 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0EF88130DA; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:02:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <30F0C10C-B7A3-4710-B64E-C5E96502CB34@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Andrew Berry In-Reply-To: <485071FD.8020504@sentex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:02:31 -0500 References: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> <20080611161436.GA9276@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20080611163515.GA8032@ayn.mi.celestial.com> <85FE1FA5-D917-43D8-B959-C70A00A41A7A@goldmark.org> <485071FD.8020504@sentex.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: FreeBSD List Subject: Re: generating random passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:02:35 -0000 On Jun 11, 2008, at 7:46 PM, Andrew Berry wrote: > Any idea what the name of the project for the Security framework is? > I can't seem to find anything on Google. I'd love to be able to > access keychains from OS X on other platforms, without resorting to > dumping everything to plaintext. This looks like a good place to start. http://developer.apple.com/opensource/security/index.html I, too, would like my OS X Keychains to be portable. Cheers, -j From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 02:05:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA04106567E for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:05:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidfeustel@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DD08FC14 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:05:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidfeustel@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cftj1Z00S0QuhwU570RT00; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:05:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([69.245.196.200]) by OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cq5t1Z00M4KuD453Nq5tgK; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:05:54 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=LH20ZSsilgtKXbwzrYIA:9 a=V0lz2HFBxEotia8MA4AA:7 a=9zd6Ya_0x4SozwHy1BQrKl3iM9oA:4 a=uzNOzFAVD0cA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 From: dfeustel@mindspring.com To: Jeffrey Goldberg In-Reply-To: <81EBB0C0-AC7A-42EE-A128-BA70ADCC336B@goldmark.org> Message-Id: <20080612020555.56DD08FC14@mx1.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:05:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cpghost , FreeBSD List Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:05:56 -0000 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:51:16PM -0500, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > On Jun 11, 2008, at 8:08 PM, cpghost wrote: > >> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:45:51 -0500 >> Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > >>> First it should consume memory. A very complete test of memory >>> through a modified memtest should be able to detect whether system >>> reported memory is accurate. > >> What if memtest already runs within the virtualization box? How can it >> determine what the "right" amount of memory is supposed to be? > > I was assuming that that would be known by the operator. > >> And if >> the virtualizer hot-patched memtest instructions, either on loading it >> or dynamically while it runs, it could make it report whatever it >> liked. > > Of course. > >>> Secondly, a blue pill would need to be reinserted after a hard >>> reboot. Therefore a look at the boot process (of a non-live system) >>> should be able to see whether there is something that reinserts the >>> blue pill. > >> Yes, but you've got to have a very close look at it, as it won't >> necessarily appear on the screen -- being caught as well by the >> virtualizer. And Joanna also has a paper about fooling hardware >> capture cards into reporting bogus data on her site, so you won't >> even be able to detect that RAM contains something else upon boot >> than those hardware capture cards are supposedly reporting. > > Yes. I've now read through some of Rutowska's slides (following the link > provided by dfeustel in another post in this thread). > >> If all this is as she's described, it is truly brilliant from a >> technical POV... and a very worrying thought as well. > > Yes it is worrying. The next time I reboot the one server I've got with an > SVM capable processor I'm going to disconnect the power (to make sure that > I'm getting a real reboot instead of a spoofed one) and then on reboot I > will disable SVM in the BIOS. How do you know that the bios has not been reflashed by a virus, trojan, or rootkit? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 02:12:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D12106564A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:12:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwynstra@nyc.rr.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4808FC19 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:12:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwynstra@nyc.rr.com) Received: from [74.73.126.126] by hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20080612021239.JZHP17903.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@[74.73.126.126]> for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:12:39 +0000 Message-ID: <485085F9.3010209@nyc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:12:09 -0400 From: John Wynstra User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080415) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: two monitors, two displays, one PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:12:40 -0000 In the last 4 months I bought a new monitor to replace the one that clunked out in me. I am currently using it with an old PS2 type keyboard and mouse attached to a creaky old desktop that will eventually be replaced. Likely I will want to replace it with a laptop with wifi and a lot more memory and hard drive so that I can take it with me. Can I still use the old monitor as a second display? Can this be done? Is it done? What are the issues? -- -- Real name: John L Wynstra -- Apartment 9G 43-10 Kissena Blvd Flushing, N.Y. 11355 -- (347) 813-0910 [cell] (718) 939-9785 [land] -- jwynstra@nyc.rr.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 02:17:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0A0106566B for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A898FC0C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:17:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6cN9-0004fT-GZ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:17:07 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m5C2H7Kl023191; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:17:07 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 71218FCABAF; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:16:39 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:16:39 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: RW Message-ID: <20080612021639.GB3875@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484F7CBE.5060401@lc-words.com> <48501F44.3010606@sentex.net> <20080612021759.35dc0838@gumby.homeunix.com.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080612021759.35dc0838@gumby.homeunix.com.> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:17:07 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: generating random passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:17:12 -0000 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 02:17:59AM +0100, RW wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:53:56 -0400 > Andrew Berry wrote: > > > Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Excuse me my ignorance. Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would > > > allow me to generate random passwords without actually creating any > > > accounts or modifying existing ones? I am looking for something to > > > allow me to generate a random string of characters. I know I can > > > randomly hit the keyboard but if anything like that exists, many > > > thanks for your advice. :) > > > > > > Best regards, > > I've used pwgen from ports. It sounds similar to the other > > suggestions. > > There are actually two versions of this in ports: sysutils/pwgen and > sysutils/pwgen2. The latter is an independent rewrite rather than a > version 2, and seems to be much more secure. > > The problem with pwgen is that its PRNG is very weakly seeded, making > it vulnerable to simple brute-force attacks. As most of the entropy > comes from the time (in *integer* seconds), it's particularly weak if an > attacker knows roughly when the password was generated. An attacker with > local access may even be able to compute the passwords directly. Thanks for the heads-up. > > pwgen2 gets random numbers directly from /dev/random, which is how > it should be. > > IMO pwgen should be removed from the ports tree, or failing that should > be patched to use arc4random(), which is self-seeding. I don't really > see the point in keeping it though. It would be nice if it could be patched and a portaudit warning issued for it so users could update. The patching would be beyond me unfortunately...or fortunately, as I would likely make it *really* insecure ;) Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 02:31:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8E41065675 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from bulwark.hamla.org (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7A38FC12 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (bulwark [69.55.228.210]) by bulwark.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF131CCA7; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:31:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at bulwark.hamla.org Received: from bulwark.hamla.org ([69.55.228.210]) by localhost (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id SVZ9V5w2OFya; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:31:13 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: John Wynstra Message-ID: <20080612023112.GB634@shepherd> Mail-Followup-To: John Wynstra , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <485085F9.3010209@nyc.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <485085F9.3010209@nyc.rr.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: two monitors, two displays, one PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:31:20 -0000 John Wynstra wrote: > In the last 4 months I bought a new monitor to replace the one that clunked > out in me. I am currently using it with an old PS2 type keyboard and mouse > attached to a creaky old desktop that will eventually be replaced. Likely > I will want to replace it with a laptop with wifi and a lot more memory and > hard drive so that I can take it with me. Can I still use the old monitor > as a second display? Yes. > Can this be done? Is it done? What are the issues? You can search for FreeBSD + dual monitors on google and find some examples + usual pitfalls. -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 02:41:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B25F1065676 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495008FC14 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:41:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4760A115698; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:41:05 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: eDD95g3ot0b2RGE9WZ7WY7r4UNp6xMMgen2ti4/TvLLX 1213238464 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A2FB6113E1; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <899F962D-68BA-48B3-9193-A3CD7DA8F129@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: dfeustel@mindspring.com In-Reply-To: <20080612020555.56DD08FC14@mx1.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:41:03 -0500 References: <20080612020555.56DD08FC14@mx1.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: cpghost , FreeBSD List Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:41:06 -0000 On Jun 11, 2008, at 9:05 PM, dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:51:16PM -0500, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: >> The next time I reboot the one server I've got with an >> SVM capable processor I'm going to disconnect the power (to make >> sure that >> I'm getting a real reboot instead of a spoofed one) and then on >> reboot I >> will disable SVM in the BIOS. > > How do you know that the bios has not been reflashed by a virus, > trojan, > or rootkit? Arrrrghh!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 02:56:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0AA106566C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3818FC19 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m5C2uExF010383; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:56:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jos Chrispijn" , Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:57:22 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <4850277C.209@webrz.net> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: RE: generating random passwords X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:56:16 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jos Chrispijn > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 12:29 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: generating random passwords > > > Bill Campbell wrote: > > I much prefer apg which can generate more-or-less pronounceable > > passwords which it is possible to remember (at least after typing > > them a few times :-). > > > This is not supposed to be an offense to any author of a password > generator, but: > Never, but never trust any random password generator. You do not know > the author, you do not know the algoritm it uses and in worst case > scenarion you do not know if there is a millisecond traffic to somewhere > that is recording the generated password. This issue is very easily solved with open source code, as you can simply read the code before running it. That is one of the reasons that most crypto implementations that people trust to actually keep things private are open source. > > One of the biggest problems with random passwords is that they > > end up written on yellow-stickies on the monitor or under the > > keyboard. > > > You don't need a generated password for that; it is common behaviour for > people that aren't involved in any responsibility whatsoever. > Such as people who don't read the source for any password generator before running it? Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 03:01:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259E01065674 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:01:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from camiloreyes82@yahoo.com) Received: from web63907.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web63907.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.97.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C5358FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:01:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from camiloreyes82@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 80861 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jun 2008 03:01:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=4aLsaGvXB6Kl6pxN1ByCkkbcoYkINoYBOwZN99Mv1KHK3x11hSgqRvdpGpOuifzUfPHOj0k2+t1ZDxPTFpaXqhwpRgzRs/+9srUH0JVKtBeQ6PYzjrg1twGOTyhyoQrXcvQkgNPcZ1imVsUXn62Yl1RMvRc3yUbNkewBzynfAtQ=; Received: from [98.201.109.92] by web63907.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:01:05 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:01:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Camilo Reyes To: Manolis Kiagias MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <836792.79335.qm@web63907.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java Dilemma X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: camiloreyes82@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:01:07 -0000 Unfortunately after updating my portsnap; it did not work. Here is the error I get: $ firefox INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: SendRequest: Read of ack failed: 0 System error?:: Unknown error: 0 $ firefox INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: SendRequest: Read of ack failed: 0 System error?:: Unknown error: 0 It's interesting to note that you don't have to download the tzupdater tool from Java (which requires you to create an account with their site). In order to avoid getting that file just edit the Makefile prior to running make. This may be necesarry for java to work, but it gave me the same error with and without that TZ package. Anyway, which firefox version are your running? I'm using firefox 2.0.0.12. --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > From: Manolis Kiagias > Subject: Re: Java Dilemma > To: camiloreyes82@yahoo.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 11:03 AM > Camilo Reyes wrote: > > I am running a FreeBSD 7.0 system and I'm having > the hardest time trying > > to get java to work (I'm sure this has been > brought up before - but a > > google search did not reveal anything). My problem is > that I can't find > > the JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.0 that it > mentions on the > > build (/usr/ports/java/diablo-jre15). I've looked > on the Java Sun website, > > and they don't have the correct version, it seems > they have a newer one. > > Would this still work?? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Camilo > > "Bono Vince Malum" > > > > > > > > I've installed the diablo-jre15 port two days ago (on > the 8th). I > downloaded this: > > tzupdater-1_3_5-2008b.zip > > And the version of the port is: > > diablo-jre-1.5.0.07.01_10 > > Have you used csup/portsnap to update your ports tree? You > might be > trying to compile an older version. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 03:03:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75CE21065674 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:03:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from surferdamon@verizon.net) Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net (vms044pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D7C8FC1F for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:03:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from surferdamon@verizon.net) Received: from presario1.com ([70.104.148.131]) by vms044.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0K2B00KR4XUEAWH1@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:03:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:03:50 -0700 From: Damon Blom In-reply-to: <57d710000806111513s2e571988se3b778b290e23859@mail.gmail.com> To: pete wright , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <48509216.6040907@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <48503A90.6020607@verizon.net> <57d710000806111513s2e571988se3b778b290e23859@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080502) Cc: Subject: Re: Unable to install freebsd on HP Proliant ML30 server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:03:51 -0000 pete wright wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Damon Blom wrote: > > >> DEBUG generating /etc/fstab file >> g-vfs-done():acd0[READ (offset=32768,length=2048)] error=5 >> error mounting /dev/acd0 on /dist >> input-output error (5) >> unable to initialize selected media >> > > looks like you may be running into a problem with your cd-rom. have > you tried to install via NFS, HTTP or FTP? You should be able to > select this via sysinstall. > > -pete > > Hi Thank's. I thought so too but had same results when I used usb cdrom. I had no problem installing kubuntu, I'll try another installation media. Thank's From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 03:20:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FF6106564A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5D98FC1A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0915CDB; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:20:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z9n6SIQomBSL; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.152.145.250] (72-165-115-225.dia.static.qwest.net [72.165.115.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DE29C5C1A; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:20:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: From: Chuck Swiger To: Kirk Strauser In-Reply-To: <200806111442.50935.kirk@strauser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:20:12 -0700 References: <200806051508.29424.kirk@strauser.com> <200806111442.50935.kirk@strauser.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Poor read() performance, and I can't profile it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:20:19 -0000 On Jun 11, 2008, at 12:42 PM, Kirk Strauser wrote: > I'm almost ready to give up on this. I've gone as far as completely > rewriting the > original C++ program into straightforward C, and still the > performance is terrible on > FreeBSD versus Linux. On Linux, GNU libc buffers file data much more extensively than FreeBSD's libc does. It means that doing things like reading a dozen bytes or so at a time is not intolerably slow on the former system, but that doesn't mean that it's a great idea either. If your data files are small enough to fit into 2GB of address space, try using mmap() and then treat the file(s) as an array of records or memoblocks or whatever, and let the VM system deal with paging in the parts of the file you need. Otherwise, don't fread() 1 record at a time, read in at least a (VM page / sizeof(record)) number of records at a time into a bigger buffer, and then process that in RAM rather than trying to fseek in little increments. (This is the opposite of calling setvbuf() to set the I/O buffer to, say, 13 bytes...) Also, if you're malloc'ing and freeing buf & memohead with every iteration of the loop, you're just thrashing the malloc system; instead, allocate your buffers once before the loop, and reuse them (zeroize or copy new data over the previous results) instead. Regards, -- -Chuck > Also note that on the FreeBSD machine, I have enough RAM that to > buffer the entire > file, and in practice gstat shows that the drives are idle for > subsequent runs after > the first one. > > Right now my code looks a lot like: > > for(recordnum = 0; recordnum < recordcount; recordnum++) { > buf = malloc(recordlength); > fread(buf, recordlength, 1, dbffile); > > /* Do stuff with buf */ > > memoblock = getmemoblock(buf); > /* Skip to the requested block if we're not already there */ > if(memoblock != currentmemofileblock) { > currentmemofileblock = memoblock; > fseek(memofile, currentmemofileblock * memoblocksize, SEEK_SET); > } > memohead = malloc(memoblocksize); > fread(memohead, memoblocksize, 1, memofile); > currentmemofileblock++; > > /* Do stuff with memohead */ > > free(memohead); > free(buf); > } > > ...where recordlength == 13 in this one case. Given that the whole > file is buffered in > RAM, the small reads shouldn't make a difference, should they? I've > played with > setvbuf() and it shaves off a few percent of runtime, but nothing to > write home about. > > Now, memofile gets quite a lot of seeks. Again, that shouldn't make > too much of a > difference if it's already buffered in RAM, should it? setvbuf() on > that file that > gets lots of random access actually made performance worse. > > What else can I do to make my code run as well on FreeBSD as it does > on a much wimpier > Linux machine? I'm almost to the point of throwing in the towel and > making a Linux > server to do nothing more than run this one program if I can't > FreeBSD's performance > more on parity, and I honestly never thought I'd be considering that. > > I'll gladly give shell access with my code and sample data files if > anyone is > interested in testing it. > -- > Kirk Strauser > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 04:16:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCD91065682 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Fraser@mail.frase.id.au) Received: from mail.frase.id.au (203-219-142-174.static.tpgi.com.au [203.219.142.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1FC8FC18 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:16:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Fraser@mail.frase.id.au) Received: from mail.frase.id.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frase.id.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5C4G4Vw027466 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:16:04 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from Fraser@mail.frase.id.au) Received: (from Fraser@localhost) by mail.frase.id.au (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m5C4G3KC027465 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:16:03 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from Fraser) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:16:03 +1000 From: Fraser Tweedale To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080612041602.GB20722@bacardi> References: <484F960D.90500@eskk.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jho1yZJdad60DJr+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <484F960D.90500@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: Problem updating nvidia driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:16:06 -0000 --jho1yZJdad60DJr+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:08:29AM +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote: > The update of nvidia-driver-169.12 fails on my system. > ( 7.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD) > ---------------------------------------- > estanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes=20 > -Wmissin > g-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef=20 > -Wno-pointer-sign -ff > ormat-extensions -c nvidia_subr.c > nvidia_subr.c:654: error: conflicting types for 'nv_os_agp_init' > nv-freebsd.h:406: error: previous declaration of 'nv_os_agp_init' was here > nvidia_subr.c:739: error: conflicting types for 'nv_os_agp_teardown' > nv-freebsd.h:407: error: previous declaration of 'nv_os_agp_teardown'=20 > was here > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/work/NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-173.14.05/sr= c. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/work/NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-173.14.05. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver. >=20 > =3D=3D=3D>>> make failed for x11/nvidia-driver > =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update >=20 > =3D=3D=3D>>> Update for nvidia-driver-169.12 failed > =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update > ----------------------------------------------- >=20 > Any ideas? >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Leslie FWIW I had major issues with 173.14.05 (X.org crash to syscons at random and usually immediately when using GLX stuff) and reverted to 169.12 which is running once again without issue. Anyhow, I remember experiencing issues like what you're mentioning though it's a while ago so my memory is hazy. IIRC, it comes from conflicts between the Mesa and Nvidia libraries, and there was some voodoo that seemed to help (though I'm not sure if it's still used), which was to set `USE_NVIDIA_GL=3Dyes' in /etc/make.conf. There may also be some library rebuilding needed once that make variable has been set (libGL and friends). Disclaimer: the above advice is based on a hazy memory of dealing with similar issues and may be totally inaccurate and/or snake oil. frase --jho1yZJdad60DJr+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhQowAACgkQPw/2FZbemTUwOgCdEUi3GyNc7I3tDg7wPXcfHjW1 4xkAoKQtoAqTMdF7/J4h0EWJtih9Z5zf =/AE0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jho1yZJdad60DJr+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 04:33:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E916D1065675 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:33:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-127.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-127.bluehost.com [67.222.38.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B568E8FC17 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:33:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 27225 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jun 2008 04:33:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 12 Jun 2008 04:33:37 -0000 Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K6eVF-00034f-Hc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:33:37 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:29:14 -0600 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:29:14 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080612042914.GA5759@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5.2.0.9.2.20080611141050.00c44e58@192.168.0.30> <8d23ec860806111108u7f2d7ce2yfd09da746d8e9d15@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UugvWAfsgieZRqgk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8d23ec860806111108u7f2d7ce2yfd09da746d8e9d15@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} DomainKey-Status: no signature Subject: Re: Question about torrents via console X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:33:40 -0000 --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 02:08:13PM -0400, Schiz0 wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Steve Lake wrote: > > Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents befor= e via > > the graphical interface before, but I want to setup a way to download i= sos > > and various FOSS apps via bittorrent, but I want to do it via the conso= le so > > I can start a torrent in screen and then walk away, allowing my server = to > > finish the work without having to leave my main workstation running to = do > > the work like I normally do. I'm using bittornado right now, and if th= ere's > > a way to do this, I'd love to know how. > > >=20 > Look into rTorrent. It's excellent. It's CLI, and runs perfect inside > a screen session. It supports encryption, prioritization, and all > other major features of any good client. I just started using rTorrent recently, and discovered that it's pretty much exactly what I want from a CLI/console BitTorrent client so far. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Marvin Minsky: "It's just incredible that a trillion-synapse computer could actually spend Saturday afternoon watching a football game." --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhQphoACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWmWACgsm2PZ42MzpMFR7d2oeEH6MmB SEcAoOow0m/68IQtFVDTWGo7k+moar8H =yZN1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 04:36:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFAB21065673 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:36:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632838FC12 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:36:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5C4aVbe061691; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:36:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:36:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:36:24 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080612043624.GA87224@thought.org> References: <20080612010303.GA81167@thought.org> <20080612011925.GA634@shepherd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080612011925.GA634@shepherd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Rodrigo Gonzalez Subject: Re: need mysql help setting passwd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:36:33 -0000 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 09:19:26PM -0400, Sahil Tandon wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > > the question is: how do I set the root password on mysql? this is a > > first step in getting phpbb3 up. i have other CMS tools installed > > on aristotle, m jail where my webserver runs. > > > > this failed: > > > > > > mysqladmin -u root password > > mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed > > error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)' > > Start here: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/access-denied.html > Well, gentlemen, I may finally have a clue! The guy who set up my networking stuff and whatever database ports there are did not install mysql50-server. Just the -client side. This fellow is the salt-of-the-earth type, ETC, but evidently didn't get into phpbb or whatever I've been trying to do. The -server side is building on my serious antique Kayak now. My thanks to both you guys; the dev.mysql.com site is chock full of info and should give me a boost when I try again. gary > -- > Sahil Tandon -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 05:26:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C0A1065677 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from entwistle.sonicboom.org (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E228FC0C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.sonicboom.org [127.0.0.1]) by entwistle.sonicboom.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5C5Qa5M009202 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:26:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Message-ID: <4850B389.1040601@brianwhalen.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:26:33 -0700 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> <484FB168.1070900@otenet.gr> <484FDBF9.7010700@wlansystems.com> <48500C4B.3060703@sentex.net> In-Reply-To: <48500C4B.3060703@sentex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:26:37 -0000 Andrew Berry wrote: > Heikki Suonsivu wrote: >> The computer I am doing this is not old, it is otherwise brand new, >> but it uses an embedded cpu, a 486 clone as SoC without math. See >> www.compactpc.com.tw, eBOX 2300SX. It is very low cost, runs on >> about 3W of power with CF card as mass memory, 128M, 3 USB2, serials, >> sound, etc, it has VESA form factor so you can attach it behind many >> LCD displays, etc. They have beefier models, but this one is cheapest >> and uses least power, latter of which is the more critical >> requirement for us. > That's a neat system. Are there any retailers in North America which > sell them individually? > > --Andrew > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" A lot of peeps use Soekris type boards, that may be an option as well. http://www.soekris.com/products.htm. Even the lowest model has these specs, including floating pint capability. http://www.amd.com/epd/processors/4.32bitcont/14.lan5xxfam/24.lansc520/index.html Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 06:00:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230DA1065681 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:00:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [65.124.230.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACAD8FC12 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4E61227E429; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:00:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C38427E428 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:00:30 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:00:30 +0000 (UTC) From: D Hill X-X-Sender: d.hill@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (BSF 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: saslauthd exited on signal 11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:00:31 -0000 I have two server installs of FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE. One is running AMD64 and the other is running i386. The one running AMD64 is getting an error at SMTP time of: 535 5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure Once this happens, the saslauthd thread that took the connection causes this line to be written in ../messages: Jun 12 05:51:01 smtpgate kernel: pid 37374 (saslauthd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) I've looked for the core dump but can't find it anywhere. Both servers are running identical versions of: smtpgate# pkg_info |grep cyrus cyrus-sasl-2.1.22_1 RFC 2222 SASL (Simple Authentication and Security Layer) cyrus-sasl-saslauthd-2.1.22 SASL authentication server for cyrus-sasl2 Does anyone know if there is an issue with cyrus sasl and/or cyrus saslauthd on AMD64? Or is there anything special needed to be done? -d From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 06:07:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA1F106567E for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:07:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AC28FC13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:07:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6fxn-0001ir-NO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:07:11 -0700 Message-ID: <17793141.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:07:11 -0700 (PDT) From: _sickfile To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200605232100.17286.beech@alaskaparadise.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: valtiparmak@gmail.com References: <200605232100.17286.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:07:13 -0000 Beech Rintoul wrote: > > On Tuesday 23 May 2006 20:44, Afrose Fathima wrote: >> Hi, >> I am trying to install FreeBSD 6.1 on a DELL box.I have dowloaded the >> 6.1-Release ISO images from >> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/r...ISO-IMAGES/6.1/>/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/6.1/> . >> Its gives us the ISO's for three CD's bootonly,disc1,disc2.But when we >> try >> to install starting with the bootonly disc it misses out on a few screens >> and also gives messages regarding unavailability of a few packages etc. >> Also it does not ask for the insertion of the other CDs at any point of >> the >> installation. >> >> Request for some help as soon as possible. > > The "boot only" is just that with a few tools. If you're installing, you > want > to start with disc1. The FreeBSD Handbook is your friend. > > Beech > I had the same problem installing 6.2 release. This is mentioned only once in the section 2.13.1 of the handbook. I think that many beginers tend to go step-by-step on the installation and when learning something new and this notion should be pointed out somewhat earlier in chapter 2. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/FreeBSD-Installation-tp4535482p17793141.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 06:30:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33998106566B for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:30:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hsu@wlansystems.com) Received: from mail.bbnetworks.net (mail.bbnetworks.net [212.16.96.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA448FC13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:30:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hsu@wlansystems.com) Received: from [212.16.96.72] (dyn72.olari.suonsivu.net [212.16.96.72]) by mail.bbnetworks.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m5C6Us9X019000; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:30:54 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from hsu@wlansystems.com) Message-ID: <4850C29A.7030604@wlansystems.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:30:50 +0300 From: Heikki Suonsivu Organization: Wireless LAN Systems Ltd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Heikki Suonsivu , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484FA0BF.9000402@wlansystems.com> <484FB168.1070900@otenet.gr> <484FDBF9.7010700@wlansystems.com> <20080611151334.GC1538@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <485019B9.7060502@wlansystems.com> <20080611195604.GA2881@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20080611195604.GA2881@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mail.bbnetworks.net [212.16.96.5]); Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:30:54 +0300 (EEST) Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:30:58 -0000 Frank Shute wrote: > I didn't think you'd be having the odd game of Quake on one of your > boxes. But think of it as an added feature! :) Oh, doom does not require fp, its integer only and on 100MHz Pentium it was very smooth! I did couple of hour-long doom sessions on one of our FreeBSD routers while waiting for a bug to regenerate itself in one of our pops some time around 1996 :) > I was referring to the 100MHz 486 you looked at. > > I'd still get an fpu so you can install a largely unpatched OS of your > choice even if the fpu is redundant beyond installing the OS. > > I guess you looked at the Soekris stuff and discounted it. Shame, > because a lot of folks find them useful with *BSD. The last I checked Soekris boards were using more power. We use similar boards from pcengines.ch for wireless routers. This application I am working on needs a computer with VGA and sound interfaces. >>>> Heikki > > Regards, > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 07:25:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57BD81065671 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:25:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za) Received: from c.mail.ru.ac.za (c.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8248FC13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za) Received: from iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.249]:54637) by c.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1K6hBe-000CFY-ON for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:25:34 +0200 Received: from iwr61.iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.161]) by iwr.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1K6hBe-0000Aj-OC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:25:34 +0200 From: "DA Forsyth" Organization: IWR To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:25:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4850EB8B.12487.4CC2C0F4@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20080610145926.GA66984@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <484EACEB.7169.43FE1258@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za>, <20080610145926.GA66984@owl.midgard.homeip.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: c.mail.ru.ac.za (146.231.129.35) Subject: Re: xRAID disks.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:25:37 -0000 On 10 Jun 2008 , Erik Trulsson entreated about "Re: xRAID disks....": > > I suspect the raidinfo is stored on the disk somewhere and a suitable > > 'dd' command can erase it. but where and how? > > That kind of information is usually stored last on the disk (where it is > least likely to be overwritten by filesystems, partitioning info, or boot > loaders), so if you overwrite the last couple of KBs on those disks you will > probably be fine. > (If you want to be certain you can always use 'dd' to nuke all the > information on the disk. That will take longer time, but you get the extra > advantage of testing all the blocks on the disk so that they work > correctly.) > > For the first you could do something like: > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1 bs=1m skip=76318 > which should overwrite the last MB of ad1 with zeros. I tried to overwrite just the last sector, but though dd reported success (and took ages, seems it has to do a read for every skipped sector) the data was still there when I used dd to display it. I have just done a search for sector editing software but I cannot find anything in ports. Starting to think of writing some C... how hard can it be just to seek to a given sector and scribble zeros on it? so then I did this (overwrite last megabyte)and that did in fact zero the last megabyte, taking away the raid info AND all the partition info. not exactly what I wanted but I was going to repartition anyway. but I now have another disk with data and raid info on it and will need a way to nondestructively remove the raid info there. I did try the suggestion of 'atacontrol' but it did nothing, I also tried 'gmirror clear' but that gives an error message, maybe I should first create a gmirror then clear it. or maybe try the 'forget' command.... hmmm, thinking now the gmirror create/remove route will probably work. let me try it on a blankish disk and see.... -- DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 07:30:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BBD106568C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:30:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za) Received: from f.mail.ru.ac.za (f.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E63E8FC1A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:30:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za) Received: from iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.249]:61306) by f.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1K6hGU-000ASd-55 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:30:34 +0200 Received: from iwr61.iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.161]) by iwr.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1K6hGU-0000EC-59 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:30:34 +0200 From: "DA Forsyth" Organization: IWR To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:30:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4850ECB7.17075.4CC752B2@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20080610150536.GA67056@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <484EACEB.7169.43FE1258@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za>, <20080610165435.M68290@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>, <20080610150536.GA67056@owl.midgard.homeip.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: f.mail.ru.ac.za (146.231.129.38) Subject: Re: xRAID disks.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:30:40 -0000 On 10 Jun 2008 , Erik Trulsson entreated about "Re: xRAID disks....": > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:56:07PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > > > The pair of ex-RAID disks are ad1 and ad2 and obviously are no longer > > > a raid pair, yet 'something' is telling the ar() driver to try and > > > pair them and failing because there is no raid hardware in that box. > > > > there are no "raid hardware" on most devices. it's just marketing hype. > > Most (cheap) RAID controllers do almost everything in software. Some do have > hardware support. this was not a cheap card, it is an Adaptec 2400A. 4 disks. It can do RAID5 too but I never tried that, having needed 2 mirror pairs instead. the new motherboard is an Intel D965 with 6 SATA sockets, 4 of which are now supporting the new RAID5 array (4x400Gb disks). whether is is the RAID hardware or just because it is SATA2, it is damn fast compared to IDE. pleased so far. oh, not booting off this, it is just data (and the old IDE mirror disks must now work in the non RAID backup server) -- DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 07:32:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2B61065679 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B382F8FC14 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:32:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5C7WVX3002301; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:32:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5C7WTtt002298; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:32:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:32:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080612093142.N2278@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:32:37 -0000 >> >> Nameservers are hitting an address of yours. Therefore something is >> probably handing out your address. Somebody (that would be me) has >> looked up the address in question and even looked up the nameserver >> which is handing out that address in a glue record. > > A simple problem EASILY solved. thank all for help. i asked the registrar (gdynia.pl) to fix a problem with one of their DNS keeping very old data with dns3 still in place. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 07:36:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19CB1065674 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBD58FC14 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:36:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5C7Zxio002329; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:35:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5C7ZvEO002326; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:35:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:35:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: John Wynstra In-Reply-To: <485085F9.3010209@nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: <20080612093310.U2278@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <485085F9.3010209@nyc.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: two monitors, two displays, one PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:36:04 -0000 > In the last 4 months I bought a new monitor to replace the one that clunked > out in me. I am currently using it with an old PS2 type keyboard and mouse > attached to a creaky old desktop that will eventually be replaced. Likely I > will want to replace it with a laptop with wifi and a lot more memory and > hard drive so that I can take it with me. Can I still use the old monitor as > a second display? > > Can this be done? Is it done? What are the issues? > Xorg support 2 monitors. be default you will simply get two X displays (:0.0 and :0.1), first default, and use second by DISPLAY=:0.1 program or you may use Xinerama in X11 that creates one virtual display from two. if you have 2 monitors, two keyboards and two mice, you may use it as 2-use system with patched X11, i made a patch but a long time ago, it will not work ouf of the box with new Xorg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 07:38:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF1D1065688 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:38:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA098FC1C; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:38:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5C7cFCw002350; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:38:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5C7cEp3002347; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:38:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:38:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: YANSWBVCG In-Reply-To: <20080611210313.6D88F8FC1C@mx1.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20080612093739.J2278@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080611210313.6D88F8FC1C@mx1.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: David Naylor , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:38:20 -0000 >> >> David > > It is my understanding that since 1995 all computers must have a > hardware back door that permits undetectable access by the government to > the computer. This capability can be implemented using System > Monitor(Maintenance) Mode which is built into all x86 computers now. It > would appear that, if you are connected to the internet, the government > has access to your computer. if it were true, this "system maintenance mode" would have to access your network card in parallel with main OS without making conflicts From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 07:40:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86252106567F for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:40:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torben.jakobsen@dk.ibm.com) Received: from mtagate3.uk.ibm.com (mtagate3.uk.ibm.com [195.212.29.136]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E028FC19 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:40:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torben.jakobsen@dk.ibm.com) Received: from d06nrmr1407.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06nrmr1407.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.149.38.185]) by mtagate3.uk.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5C7GH8d165624 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:16:17 GMT Received: from d06av02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06av02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.149.37.228]) by d06nrmr1407.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v9.0) with ESMTP id m5C7GHQ81126424 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:16:17 +0100 Received: from d06av02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d06av02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.13.3) with ESMTP id m5C7GHsI032658 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:16:17 +0100 Received: from d06ml724.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (d06ml724.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com [9.149.38.85]) by d06av02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m5C7GHal032653 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:16:17 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20080611202826.C73093@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200806111709.m5BH9g7K064402@lurza.secnetix.de> <20080611202826.C73093@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Disclaimed: 7294 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.0.1 HF105 April 10, 2008 Message-ID: From: Torben Jakobsen Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:16:15 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D06ML724/06/M/IBM(Release 7.0.2FP2HF322 | September 26, 2007) at 12/06/2008 09:16:17, Serialize complete at 12/06/2008 09:16:17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Effects of CPUTYPE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:40:29 -0000 > [image removed]=20 >=20 > Re: Effects of CPUTYPE >=20 > Wojciech Puchar=20 >=20 > to: >=20 > freebsd-questions, parish >=20 > 2008-06-11 20:31 >=20 > Sent by: >=20 > owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >=20 > > > In my personal opinion, the small gain you get is more than > > > overwhelmed by the big pain you get from setting CPUTYPE. > > > > I'm setting CPUTYPE on all of my machines for many years, > > without the slightest problems. No pain at all. They're > > all kinds of different processors, c3-2 (VIA), athlon64, > > and so on. In some cases the difference is very noticable. >=20 > exactly like me. i set it everywhere, no problems. >=20 > =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I had the opposite problem: I could not build the world/kernel until I set = CPUTYPE to "c3-2" (or "c3"). It was a brand new VIA EDEN-EX 1.5GHz with no = other things installed but a copy of the 7.0-RELEASE-p1 source. (I did not = have compile problems when I installed the 6.2 on a similar machine) I set CPUTYPE in /etc/make.conf. I think it is only used by the gcc=20 compiler so it will probably only make a difference if you compile ports=20 or from source. Compiling the kernel/world with CPUTYPE=3Dc3-2 I think I see an improved=20 boot time. I do not know of other gains as the server idles most of the=20 time so I do not really care as long as it is stable. I never did try to=20 time the kernel and world builds. :-) Torben Medmindre andet er angivet ovenfor: / Unless Otherwise Stated Above: IBM Danmark A/S Nym=F8llevej 91 2800 Kongens Lyngby, Danmark CVR nr.: 65305216=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 08:14:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DEB1065679 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F118FC21 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id m5C8E40x077678 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:14:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id m5C8E442077677; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA18099; Thu, 12 Jun 08 01:03:37 PDT Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:03:00 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: dfeustel@mindspring.com, jeffrey@goldmark.org Message-Id: <4850d834.VvRLmDrvgD3J8RVH%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20080612020555.56DD08FC14@mx1.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20080612020555.56DD08FC14@mx1.freebsd.org> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: cpghost@cordula.ws, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:14:15 -0000 > How do you know that the bios has not been reflashed by a virus, > trojan, or rootkit? For that matter, how do you know that the *original* bios was free of "interesting non-essentials"? It's been a few years since bios were delivered in socketed ROMs/EPROMs (readable by a standalone device, independently of their own operation) or since sources were typically published :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 08:22:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3546106567F for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:22:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za) Received: from c.mail.ru.ac.za (c.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403B88FC12 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:22:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za) Received: from iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.249]:56948) by c.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1K6i4h-000EFM-01 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:22:27 +0200 Received: from iwr61.iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.161]) by iwr.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1K6i4h-0001Mr-0L for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:22:27 +0200 From: "DA Forsyth" Organization: IWR To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:22:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4850F8E1.11972.4CF6D470@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <4850EB8B.12487.4CC2C0F4@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> References: <484EACEB.7169.43FE1258@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za>, <20080610145926.GA66984@owl.midgard.homeip.net>, <4850EB8B.12487.4CC2C0F4@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: c.mail.ru.ac.za (146.231.129.35) Subject: Re: xRAID disks.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:22:28 -0000 On 12 Jun 2008 , DA Forsyth entreated about "Re: xRAID disks....": > hmmm, thinking now the gmirror create/remove route will probably > work. let me try it on a blankish disk and see.... this appears to be the answer to the question: how to stop ar recognizing a disk that used to be on a raid controller doing a 'gmirror label gm0 /dev/ad1' filled the last sector with data, and 'gmirror clear /dev/ad1' reset it all to zero now to try it on the big disk with data on it... YES: it works, and the data slice is still there, and the commands happen a lot faster than a dd with a skip parameter sidenote: to see the last sector use sysinstall's fdisk to see the data for the disk. you'll see something like Disk name: ad3 FDISK Geometry: 38913 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 625137345 sectors Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 63 625137282 625137344 ad3s1 8 freebsd 165 625137345 5103 625142447 - 12 unused 0 ^^^^^^^^^ you want that number in a dd commmand like this dd if=/dev/ad3 skip=625142447 | hd -v Thanks to all for the pointers -- DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 08:47:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E0B1065678 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:47:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164D28FC13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:47:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3350952wfg.7 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:47:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MwgY3F1MkSx/jlW4oVofwUxgpa8G6hC1xO578bNEtu4=; b=u5kVtnIM0ah1PGTSuok8/mmiyiZ87+FBXrY8YGeiaxC9KE8UfwmabjAl98hx3O9lbW oCsa+7qfsJobHnyVQSJF3LyEI5ZznifSXyb6fR+2q60NnaexSszJpTQdDNCQ98h0fVyC RfDbx3xcNpErRBG4VFGZQWdYF8xbajXMjIngU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HOmrEXjuWNY73irMSjAivdhTXZqMmCyltQmph9f5VkcC5tFSMiLs+q9GkjIX7X93I9 7LQzFPNIwyuC9WkuplcLcPL5b49479mV42OLO33tQAAzcudfzO/BfHD8p41Bj33o0iC+ N722GX9idPeQt3haxQiYcXyJh0o2uIZYPRbAk= Received: by 10.142.218.6 with SMTP id q6mr375830wfg.164.1213260433707; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?202.127.19.74? ( [202.127.19.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm1906547wfg.13.2008.06.12.01.47.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:40:36 +0800 From: "fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> <20080611211821.GB25793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20080611211821.GB25793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:47:14 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:50:36PM +0800, fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows: >> >> T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB nVIDIA >> Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), Bluetooth, Modem, >> 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c Li-Ion, >> >> My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm >> from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling >> and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I >> am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or >> another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. >> >> My questions are: >> 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW, >> wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important. >> >> 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary >> Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial >> softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary >> compatibility stable enough for work ? > > It should run FreeBSD just fine. Check the hardware compatibility > lists to check for specific peripherals. > > The Linux compatibility layer worked well. Should be no problem. > > ////jerry > >> Thanks a lot. Thank you guys. I will try to install FreeBSD on a second hard disk to have a test. Is FreeBSD going to enhance himself on the desktop ? It seems that FreeBSD focuses mainly on server, while Linux has improved a lot in the past a few years both on server and desktop. But I'm still eager to try FreeBSD on my notebook :P From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 09:01:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877801065674 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB9E8FC19 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id m5C91Mhu082475 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:01:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id m5C91MmX082474; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA18277; Thu, 12 Jun 08 01:56:19 PDT Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:55:43 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl, daf@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4850e48f.OySiv66mGU2z+ZMS%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20080611210313.6D88F8FC1C@mx1.freebsd.org> <20080612093739.J2278@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080612093739.J2278@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: naylor.b.david@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:01:24 -0000 > > It is my understanding that since 1995 all computers must have > > a hardware back door that permits undetectable access by the > > government to the computer. This capability can be implemented > > using System Monitor(Maintenance) Mode which is built into all > > x86 computers now. It would appear that, if you are connected > > to the internet, the government has access to your computer. > > if it were true, this "system maintenance mode" would have to > access your network card in parallel with main OS without making > conflicts A near-trivial exercise in virtualization, provided it knows what kind of card is in use and what addresses it occupies, which is rather easy if the "card" is in fact built onto the mainboard. Of course, it is also trivial to defeat it by using an add-in card instead of the one on the mainboard, esp. a card whose design did not exist when the bios was written. Cycles consumed by SMM might also explain why some PCs' clocks seem to run slower than real time ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 09:03:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BE41065681 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valerio.daelli@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556C98FC21 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valerio.daelli@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3356483wfg.7 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:03:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=2ij9zJqcgTGonGrJ6WYytxKWBtahdMzjEvSDO2z0p/4=; b=OCoFOKBpnzDrJQJL9Sx/RztiAOxx+8kdFB8XZOF9zMo2OTGqI8MJTNJG+EOWUFGAgG l+VBqdrTHFqt0M6CSHkPIr6bzWP4hyszD85soYqnJEYJd00wCwJ2Gwtf6DCap+Lr4RRm JJnzh2NER5axQitJDzUMCdoHXIQRak806dFSw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=emmzEBPCX2rG/3C3yCuU7mYO73oOHH7L6zrn0AbMh8lwElJOAuGrWX2GsX9gmr0ATc RPo/2Dm9kBG+vGWUOsDwedivd+v4nDWrzdfsAtr+DKaiXwwpiVmGOUo4zllOMUkq8H+I DfwxkiNdEcxZfswTYSI3zLMkD+r8QmokRsASs= Received: by 10.142.232.20 with SMTP id e20mr387008wfh.134.1213261415960; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.48.7 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <27dbfc8c0806120203n51d66bc7ub944bc97215d29b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:03:35 +0200 From: "Valerio Daelli" To: "fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com" In-Reply-To: <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> <20080611211821.GB25793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:03:36 -0000 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:40 AM, fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com wrote: > Jerry McAllister wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:50:36PM +0800, fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows: >>> >>> T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB >>> nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), Bluetooth, >>> Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c Li-Ion, >>> >>> My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm >>> from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling and >>> comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I am >>> tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or another >>> linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. >>> >>> My questions are: >>> 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW, >>> wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important. >>> >>> 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux >>> Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial >>> softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary >>> compatibility stable enough for work ? >> >> It should run FreeBSD just fine. Check the hardware compatibility >> lists to check for specific peripherals. >> >> The Linux compatibility layer worked well. Should be no problem. >> >> ////jerry >> >>> Thanks a lot. > > Thank you guys. > > I will try to install FreeBSD on a second hard disk to have a test. > > Is FreeBSD going to enhance himself on the desktop ? It seems that FreeBSD > focuses mainly on server, while Linux has improved a lot in the past a few > years both on server and desktop. But I'm still eager to try FreeBSD on my > notebook :P > I am able to compile world and kernel and the temperature of the cores is never higher than 67. I find it stable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 09:05:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1C11065675 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@lightflowinterrupted.com) Received: from mc.neutelligent.com (mc.neutelligent.com [66.230.204.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5195F8FC23 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@lightflowinterrupted.com) Received: from reaper (host86-168-193-217.range86-168.btcentralplus.com [86.168.193.217]) by mc.neutelligent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5742841D; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:41:31 -0400 (EDT) From: <1@movesmountains.com> Sender: "Mark" To: "'eculp'" Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:38:56 +0100 Message-ID: <007a01c8cc67$c16aaa30$f001a8c0@asgard.movesmountains.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20080611142255.15431txbrywv1csg@intranet.casasponti.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Thread-Index: AcjL+J3Pilv3qSlkSnCCOWaYuR9GrAAbsDhg Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: reboot after panic : page fault for two consecutive days nowwith FreeBSD stable 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:05:50 -0000 I had a similar problem when I tried to use kgdb to diagnose a page fault. I found that it worked fine on another vmcore from the next crash - without any knowledge of the subject, I assume that sometimes when FreeBSD crashed it was unable to write a correct vmcore? Anyway, try it again with other vmcores; I did not specifically enable debugging in the kernel but still got a sensible trace. Yours, Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of eculp > Sent: 11 June 2008 20:23 > To: Kris Kennaway > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: reboot after panic : page fault for two > consecutive days nowwith FreeBSD stable 7.0 > > Quoting "Kris Kennaway" : > > > eculp wrote: > >> This is on a relatively new Dell dualcore with 4G of ram > running up > >> to date stable. I'm not on site so I have no idea what might be > >> provoking these crashes. In fact in many years of running > FreeBSD > >> I've not seen something just happen like this. It is a > >> simi-production machine that cvsups daily and builds and > installs a > >> new world and kernel. Ports are updated about once a week and > >> haven't seen any issues previously. It has been running > 24/7 since > >> new, about 8 months. > >> > >> 3 files were generated info, bounds and vmcore. The info > file follows: > >> > >> Dump header from device /dev/mfid0s1b > >> Architecture: i386 > >> Architecture Version: 2 > >> Dump Length: 341225472B (325 MB) > >> Blocksize: 512 > >> Dumptime: Wed Jun 11 12:34:24 2008 > >> Hostname: casasponti.net > >> Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump > >> Version String: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #258: Tue Jun 10 > 05:54:42 CDT 2008 > >> root@casasponti.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO > >> Panic String: page fault > >> Dump Parity: 2395754794 > >> Bounds: 2 > >> Dump Status: good > >> > >> the vmcore is about 300M so I'm not attaching it;) I could put it > >> on line at a moments notice. I think that what I need is > probably > >> a crash course on debugging a crash and I really don't know where > >> to start since after over 10 years with freebsd I've never needed > >> it. Any help, suggestions, etc. would be greatly appreciated. > > > > See the developers' handbook chapter on kernel debugging. > > Thanks Kris. I did that and I'm assuming that since > debugging was not > enabled in my kernel I got: > > /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO # kgdb kernel.debug > /var/crash/vmcore.2 > GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] > Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public > License, and you are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under > certain conditions. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show > warranty" for details. > This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd"... > Cannot access memory at address 0x0 > (kgdb) > > I assume it will only work with the new kernel because the > kernel.debug only got to Cannot access memory at address 0x4b55. > Which means I have to wait for another crash. > > I have already compiled a new kernelwith debuging and will reboot > tonight to install the kernel and hopefully will never need > to test it. > > Thanks for your help, > > ed > > > > > However, panics that "suddenly" start happening frequently on a > > system that has been stable for a while with no OS or workload > > changes made, are usually due to the hardware starting to fail. > > > > Kris > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 09:38:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6671065679 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:38:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C0A8FC20 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:38:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5C9cDW7004406; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:38:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5C9cCRb004403; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:38:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:38:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com" In-Reply-To: <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080612113725.J4402@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> <20080611211821.GB25793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:38:18 -0000 > Is FreeBSD going to enhance himself on the desktop ? It seems that FreeBSD i don't understand your question. FreeBSD can run any unix program, be in "server program" or "desktop program" whatever "desktop" means for you. there is nothing to be enhanced. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 10:35:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4A11065676 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel_k_eriksson@telia.com) Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2623D8FC14 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel_k_eriksson@telia.com) Received: from royal64.emp.zapto.org (195.198.193.168) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.129) id 4843FAEB001E4CEC; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:35:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7235.2 Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:35:22 +0200 Message-ID: <4F9C9299A10AE74E89EA580D14AA10A61A193E@royal64.emp.zapto.org> In-Reply-To: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? thread-index: AcjJa9dACWlErCAcSr2DoF9i6VgJqwC/pKjQ References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> From: "Daniel Eriksson" To: Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Anders_H=E4ggstr=F6m?= Subject: RE: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:35:25 -0000 Anders H=E4ggstr=F6m wrote: > I plan to install a web server for production use and ZFS looks very > interesting, especially since it has built-in support for RAID and > checksum. ZFS is very nice, but slightly over-hyped imho. However, some of the = hype is warranted and for some use cases ZFS is a much better fit than = UFS. Despite what Wojciech Puchar says, ZFS checksumming can be very useful. = I recently had two drives in a hardware RAID-5 array (8 x 1 TB on a = Highpoint RocketRAID 2340) develop unreadable sectors seemingly at the = same time. I'm not sure what caused it but the end result was a = broken/unavailable array. To make a long story short I managed to get = the drives to remap the bad sectors and bring the array back online. = Since I had ZFS on the array I didn't have to wait for fsck to run = (takes a very long time on a 7 TB array and requires a LOT of memory to = even work), and after the pool had been scrubbed I had a list of files = with bad checksums that I could restore from backup. With UFS I would = have had silent data corruption. Beware, there have been reports of mmap not working properly together = with ZFS. I'm not sure if this is still a problem and if it would affect = a typical web server. It does not seem to affect any of my fileservers = (exporting NFS). /Daniel Eriksson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 10:41:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CA21065674 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidfeustel@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D828FC16 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidfeustel@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cyZ61Z0010cQ2SLA200b00; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:41:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([69.245.196.200]) by OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cyhu1Z0034KuD458WyhuVk; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:41:56 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=K_fBZbE0AAAA:8 a=XawnbSxmx-Z5lsRdxS4A:9 a=qG2GjjjwQO2r4bvvWE4lPsXSCR4A:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 From: dfeustel@mindspring.com To: perryh@pluto.rain.com In-Reply-To: <4850d834.VvRLmDrvgD3J8RVH%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Message-Id: <20080612104157.51D828FC16@mx1.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:41:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cpghost@cordula.ws, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jeffrey@goldmark.org, dfeustel@mindspring.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:41:57 -0000 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 01:03:00AM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > How do you know that the bios has not been reflashed by a virus, > > trojan, or rootkit? > > For that matter, how do you know that the *original* bios was free > of "interesting non-essentials"? It's been a few years since bios > were delivered in socketed ROMs/EPROMs (readable by a standalone > device, independently of their own operation) or since sources were > typically published :) Check out http://www.gensw.com and the book _BIOS Disassembly Ninjutsu Uncovered_. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 10:56:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28AA10656B3 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AAE98FC19 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:55:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3394398wfg.7 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:55:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=tUeyi8J9To/e6IvGt+uZ2TF0zOhabFHBB7Q3u48oXRQ=; b=PlugYbmEjPqwOzk8ZJKSQDiJEWpiOsHSs1cE5uxcQRSMI0/P1vuZRcXjKtyD6xLkDK cWh11dhFN83zYCCOkmrhFdzYT4ApZxqCn2SWS9tYKvXND4dgG32gga9sMy9jx+L6P/WV p4xsFxagS/Jc2MZNUsqNeCtM4arD5gRcRLMpc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=CJ0XxwjIedMz96pnQtym8HUTjW2zg1XfW1I9L1A4o7Vw8Be0QZ4poZrmsqDaBJb/l2 L08GCupDbV2wC2292+zJVB2Sp3amRruuGambPus0PDplgxpQSjrCZsmAdJfIKgulQIiJ 6+avJUZaPiP0ziqHKmchKkps2ZkZjmM9cNLLM= Received: by 10.142.229.4 with SMTP id b4mr430334wfh.143.1213268155149; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.217.10 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:55:55 -0400 From: "Tsu-Fan Cheng" To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: linux_sys_futex: unknown op 128 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:56:00 -0000 hi all, i have this weird log in my /var/log/messages, it keeps showing Jun 12 06:53:36 kernel: linux_sys_futex: unknown op Jun 12 06:53:36 kernel: 128 Jun 12 06:53:36 kernel: linux_sys_futex: unknown op 128 and it seems to have something to do with my flash plugin, as I kill npviewer, this message goes away, does anyone know why?? thanks !! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 11:07:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E9C106564A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:07:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7448FC13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:07:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6ke8-0002no-FO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:07:12 -0700 Message-ID: <17797413.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:07:12 -0700 (PDT) From: tholoko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <382a6af20803130110s7dc1bd34o83c53730dcb542a5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Nabble-From: tholoko@gmail.com References: <382a6af20803130110s7dc1bd34o83c53730dcb542a5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: dell wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:07:13 -0000 I didn't find nothing about this card on web!!! Is there any generic driver? What's the chipset? Maybe Intel? THanks! Philippe Schottey wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I just bought a dell inspiron 1525. > Included is a Dell=E2=84=A2 Wireless 1395 802.11b/g Mini-Card - Europe > Can this card be used on FreeBSD? > Is there a specific procedure to follow? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Philippe Schottey > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 >=20 --=20 View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/dell-wireless-tp1602348= 5p17797413.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 09:07:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A071065672 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:07:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from margelatto@yahoo.com) Received: from n54.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (n54.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [98.136.44.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 494C68FC21 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:07:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from margelatto@yahoo.com) Received: from [216.252.122.216] by n54.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jun 2008 08:55:38 -0000 Received: from [69.147.65.155] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jun 2008 08:55:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jun 2008 08:55:38 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 63422.14677.bm@omp403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 62260 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jun 2008 08:55:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=xbSMKCunsryPy+uNIYLo7TR1nJ3ywTDSHI8pEDFmW8bspi2TYQ9Bra+FyjnvH0v52uet3P2KoTJ15PVyTE7zZkgZVOhbvuzthIr5x6vu8l0EdFfrdxnLRBm7AAGZTKHICu7nokQ/L5s3RK+tPdQySeKvsCWjbBCmuLPVZoEMigU=; Received: from [92.114.221.191] by web45811.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:55:37 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:55:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Telpiz Sorin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <948245.61083.qm@web45811.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:25:39 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: margelatto@yahoo.com Subject: Installing FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:07:59 -0000 =A0tried several times to install 7.0-RELEASE x amd64 on=A0my friend's=A0ma= chine that is eqiupped with hard drive manufactured by Samsung. The hard dr= ive (master) appears to have SATA interface, nonetheless SYSINSTALL regogni= zes it as ad04!=0ABesides, SYSINSTALL complains about the disk's geometry= =A0. The text console works very slowly, though the machine=A0(ASUS motherb= oard) has 2 Gigs of RAM and=A0a=A0good GeForce video board. For comparison,= my old IBM machine ( PentiumII , 128Mb RAM , 16Mb video memory ) runs Free= BSD much more faster. Could you help us fix the=A0trouble?=0ABest regards = and much thanks.=0Asorin at margelatto@yahoo.com=A0=A0=A0=A0=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 09:08:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A66106567C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:08:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from margelatto@yahoo.com) Received: from n26.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (n26.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C626D8FC1A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:08:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from margelatto@yahoo.com) Received: from [68.142.200.224] by n26.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jun 2008 08:55:33 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.216] by t5.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jun 2008 08:55:38 -0000 Received: from [69.147.65.154] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jun 2008 08:55:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp402.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jun 2008 08:55:38 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 62342.49614.bm@omp402.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 62260 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jun 2008 08:55:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=xbSMKCunsryPy+uNIYLo7TR1nJ3ywTDSHI8pEDFmW8bspi2TYQ9Bra+FyjnvH0v52uet3P2KoTJ15PVyTE7zZkgZVOhbvuzthIr5x6vu8l0EdFfrdxnLRBm7AAGZTKHICu7nokQ/L5s3RK+tPdQySeKvsCWjbBCmuLPVZoEMigU=; Received: from [92.114.221.191] by web45811.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:55:37 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/975.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:55:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Telpiz Sorin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <948245.61083.qm@web45811.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:26:05 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: margelatto@yahoo.com Subject: Installing FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:08:21 -0000 =A0tried several times to install 7.0-RELEASE x amd64 on=A0my friend's=A0ma= chine that is eqiupped with hard drive manufactured by Samsung. The hard dr= ive (master) appears to have SATA interface, nonetheless SYSINSTALL regogni= zes it as ad04!=0ABesides, SYSINSTALL complains about the disk's geometry= =A0. The text console works very slowly, though the machine=A0(ASUS motherb= oard) has 2 Gigs of RAM and=A0a=A0good GeForce video board. For comparison,= my old IBM machine ( PentiumII , 128Mb RAM , 16Mb video memory ) runs Free= BSD much more faster. Could you help us fix the=A0trouble?=0ABest regards = and much thanks.=0Asorin at margelatto@yahoo.com=A0=A0=A0=A0=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 11:37:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F453106566B for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:37:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D7C8FC0C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:37:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5CBb8DK005818; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:37:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5CBb7QJ005815; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:37:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:37:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Daniel Eriksson In-Reply-To: <4F9C9299A10AE74E89EA580D14AA10A61A193E@royal64.emp.zapto.org> Message-ID: <20080612132527.K5722@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <4F9C9299A10AE74E89EA580D14AA10A61A193E@royal64.emp.zapto.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Anders_H=E4ggstr=F6m?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:37:17 -0000 > > ZFS is very nice, but slightly over-hyped imho. not slightly and not only over-hyped. it's definitely far from being for storage as "VM is for memory". for example you can't select per file (or at least - per pseudo-filesystem) if you want no protection, mirrored or raidz. you must have disks dedicated for raidz, disks dedicated for mirrored storage and disks dedicated for unprotected storage. it's inflexible and not much usable. actually - much less usable than "legacy" gmirror/gstripe/gconcat+bsdlabel. one of my systems have 8 disks. 80% of data doesn't need any protection, it's just a need for a lot of space, other 20 needs to be mirrored. this 80% of data is used in high bandwidth/low seeks style (only big files). i simply partitioned every disk on 2 partitions, every first is used to make gmirror+gstripe device, every second is used to make gconcat device, and i have what i need WITH BALANCED LOAD. with ZFS i would have to make first 2 drives as mirror, another 6 for unprotected storage, having LOTS of seeks on first 2 drives and very little seeks on other 6 drives. the system would be unable to support the load. to say more: zfs set copies could be usable to selectively mirror given data while not mirroring other (using unprotected storage for ZFS). but it's broken. it writes N copies under write, but don't remake copies in case of failure! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 11:38:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39071065686 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E227F8FC0C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:38:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5CBcHpI005831; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:38:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5CBcGpc005828; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:38:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:38:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Telpiz Sorin In-Reply-To: <948245.61083.qm@web45811.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080612133731.V5722@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <948245.61083.qm@web45811.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1626729238-1400335514-1213270696=:5722" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:38:23 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --1626729238-1400335514-1213270696=:5722 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT >  tried several times to install 7.0-RELEASE x amd64 on my friend's machine that is eqiupped with hard drive manufactured by Samsung. The hard drive (master) appears to have SATA interface, > nonetheless SYSINSTALL regognizes it as ad04! what do you expect to be recognized as? it's OK > The text console works very slowly, for this i have no idea. --1626729238-1400335514-1213270696=:5722-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 11:49:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2BC1065672 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:49:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aline@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [204.13.164.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47178FC17 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:49:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aline@riseup.net) Received: from tern.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "ipsCA CLASEA1 Certification Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB4C570B39 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: aline@tern.riseup.net) with ESMTP id 4372514C096 From: Aline de Freitas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:30:45 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806120830.48560.aline@riseup.net> Subject: Re: linux_sys_futex: unknown op 128 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:49:16 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Em Thursday 12 June 2008 07:55:55 Tsu-Fan Cheng escreveu: > hi all, > i have this weird log in my /var/log/messages, it keeps showing > > Jun 12 06:53:36 kernel: linux_sys_futex: unknown op > Jun 12 06:53:36 kernel: 128 > Jun 12 06:53:36 kernel: linux_sys_futex: unknown op 128 > > and it seems to have something to do with my flash plugin, as I kill > npviewer, this message goes away, does anyone know why?? thanks !! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" You may be running linux_base-f8 with 7.0-RELEASE, isn't it? linux_base-f8 uses some futex functions present only in STABLE. To get rid of it you could update to 7-STABLE, or, as I do, just copy linux_futex.c and linux_futex.h from CURRENT or STABLE into sys/compat/linux and rebuild your kernel, while keep using 7.0-RELEASE. - -- Aline de Freitas - Chave pública: ID DE632016 / keys.indymedia.org gpg --keyserver keys.indymedia.org --recv-keys DE632016 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhRCOgACgkQhLRvs95jIBb/9ACeL1s+OZcl8S0FE+esZdBJi7OA ZFIAmgKUaN0VsW4XIze8AV5x/xrmS7Tt =Ivf3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 12:35:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331971065682 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAAF8FC12 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5CCZ9YN006158; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:35:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5CCZ6Zc006154; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:35:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:35:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: dfeustel@mindspring.com In-Reply-To: <20080612104157.51D828FC16@mx1.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20080612143443.G6133@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080612104157.51D828FC16@mx1.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: cpghost@cordula.ws, perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jeffrey@goldmark.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:35:25 -0000 >> of "interesting non-essentials"? It's been a few years since bios >> were delivered in socketed ROMs/EPROMs (readable by a standalone >> device, independently of their own operation) or since sources were >> typically published :) now they are standard devices too, just not socketed, you may unsolder and check ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 12:56:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CB9106566C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:56:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from blubaustin@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FB58FC1C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:56:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from blubaustin@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so897649ana.13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:56:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=0/Ldhh0RoVXH5yQGKxr2AE5r+Y8qc3fQdDhSPeqyHzE=; b=lDnonGUeo2uZp6gTJS54urPfiPB67qmmr8r6nt7DZadYipYQOq/n84YHW85kYeBzbD cFva+fsDHPcE6TPrrnIFlEQIolKjvDsJ9eACd5G4yQQhHP58DNsIib5lUDvha539Cv7Y DSNafzqiXjXse1Q5VJKp4vEKp+LyUKp5Ps3EM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=bxRUcX//Umsw1WrjUL+vDkRMGLeEhJoVr7jt8fSfUyh7+RVtw1BNbNvNST3HjicjYc rKxO4uHqOxbk1Tf84s7Ybp6g5+wp3lMVVB4h4nLD0LmDa0cexwKDkAtV8DUq1Dr70+KZ wIFL/hkD8z9yu5kaCylDpQ+/dFtuH7OCkZjf4= Received: by 10.100.141.5 with SMTP id o5mr1975004and.33.1213273839973; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.231.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <166e19420806120530o30255dd1vc5fff8e40498b94d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:30:39 -0400 From: "Austin Evans" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: How X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:56:25 -0000 I had a question concerning how to, suggest a feature in freebsd. But I did not know who to email, I am very new to this open-source feel, and was just wondering who, or where I post a suggestion. ~Austin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 12:59:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A63106567C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC828FC16 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:59:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3436133wfg.7 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:59:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=vsD/Vl7qfV5oqpHnbHTqLNSPzjmF5mDc4KapoJ1dxAU=; b=DxS8qakBZ/5s6DhoSRUEyDzI6fwiIivT0MMIZKdVmqnfM3L0GOHxhDJVbXFPgDeQAY nav86faP2DUXBbZodJM1OjfhSjXg2dHZw/QLNSO18eDlHF8IdAgFd2qtDNEN24hmg0EY fIMCQ+tGJEwYnVu3hmzMI/fuYvfHeV90fMx+U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=auFS6Ub6li5CEVzPaAL2amOJCeTc0KYbl7n/84FqNxuzW47P2oWHjMJ9HEy5A5R2X2 alw5VJ7NobuZIuihF7MRUyNAB6RT6CRNKX2zsDnpni9mzcXtZUn4T0ethXEsvsRcBrnj j4s+U6+rgH2ZLDnuNHyZYta0lMoOcCFa2XkPY= Received: by 10.142.158.3 with SMTP id g3mr469392wfe.347.1213275553594; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.217.10 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:59:13 -0400 From: "Tsu-Fan Cheng" To: "Aline de Freitas" In-Reply-To: <200806120830.48560.aline@riseup.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200806120830.48560.aline@riseup.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux_sys_futex: unknown op 128 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:59:15 -0000 i c, will do that, thank you!! TFC On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Aline de Freitas wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Em Thursday 12 June 2008 07:55:55 Tsu-Fan Cheng escreveu: >> hi all, >> i have this weird log in my /var/log/messages, it keeps showing >> >> Jun 12 06:53:36 kernel: linux_sys_futex: unknown op >> Jun 12 06:53:36 kernel: 128 >> Jun 12 06:53:36 kernel: linux_sys_futex: unknown op 128 >> >> and it seems to have something to do with my flash plugin, as I kill >> npviewer, this message goes away, does anyone know why?? thanks !! >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > You may be running linux_base-f8 with 7.0-RELEASE, isn't it? > > linux_base-f8 uses some futex functions present only in STABLE. To get ri= d of > it you could update to 7-STABLE, or, as I do, just copy linux_futex.c and > linux_futex.h from CURRENT or STABLE into sys/compat/linux and rebuild yo= ur > kernel, while keep using 7.0-RELEASE. > > - -- > Aline de Freitas - Chave p=FAblica: ID DE632016 / keys.indymedia.org > gpg --keyserver keys.indymedia.org --recv-keys DE632016 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkhRCOgACgkQhLRvs95jIBb/9ACeL1s+OZcl8S0FE+esZdBJi7OA > ZFIAmgKUaN0VsW4XIze8AV5x/xrmS7Tt > =3DIvf3 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 13:19:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93801065672 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:19:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7EA8FC1B for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:19:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so360597yxl.13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:19:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:organization:to:subject :date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=2qAKRoWJW9ZM1ZVSqxfLr2AWPJ/FRUazwr2iltdwuns=; b=gaDW9qZrXuQFfVSGoCbibEVL1fprlP8byd6oTxIQ/imM+7PhozyDhvryqthcjZs+IS eoCbpnaFkzJG3Uo/FIQHg8Dohmp59ZLGHoF6AG83HiUC3WP+JmC8iWmmulOqN1akNOkH yJVXVP5TRANQjBIIh8/28lIk9o4Ky3GIZg8PM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=cMhmpzJOzRMCqebco+WYoDfSnSPOqSnUIgutXtWms4+7HYPaZPUmzcoQfTd65H4Wws /S7t+4QB3ZsAC7m8ErjwT7oNgfAOHdjisIqVaZqGBvFZDRxOnqmO/OIhEcwGyuB657Kl 6Xln/RxIi89B73kehmGvi+fbGXU8RbYbegsjI= Received: by 10.150.137.8 with SMTP id k8mr2363380ybd.87.1213276776462; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?0.0.0.0? ( [196.34.241.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a22sm2518755pye.6.2008.06.12.06.19.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:19:35 -0700 (PDT) From: David Naylor Organization: Private To: Roland Smith Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:19:06 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200806112225.36221.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> <20080611214743.GA18371@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20080611214743.GA18371@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1260918.VHSsbj4oUg"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200806121519.12820.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:19:37 -0000 --nextPart1260918.VHSsbj4oUg Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 11 June 2008 23:47:43 you wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25:32PM +0200, David Naylor wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Today I read an article describing how my government had lost ZAR200 000 > > 000 from fraud. This is just under $25 000 000. The article credited > > this loss largely due to the use of spyware. > > > > My question is how secure is FreeBSD (including KDE, GNOME and XFCE) to > > attacks, including cracking and spyware. > > That is a very broad question without a simple answer. It depends among > other things on the purpose of the machine and the knowledge of the > administrator. > > E.g, if you are creating a workstation that doesn't run externally > accessible servers you could configure the firewall to block all > incoming new connection requests. That will go a long way toward > safeguarding the machine against network attacks. > > There is no way to safeguard a machine that an attacker has physical > access to; he could e.g. steal the harddisk and read your data at his > leisure (unless it is encrypted on-disk, e.g. with geli(8)). Also, no OS > can defend against social engineering attacks. > > I would not worry overly much about spyware. Most if not all of those > are windows binaries. Also, unix mail clients as a rule do not execute > scripts embedded in mail messages. I think this argument is rather mute, just because there are no programs=20 exploiting security vulnerabilities does not been there are not=20 vulnerabilities, and a determined cracker would create his own program. Th= at=20 said I hope there are, actually, no vulnerabilities. =20 [Security through obscurity is just an illusion] > > In addition, is there anyway to > > prevent a user from executing a program that is not owned by root (i.e. > > any program installed by the user), this would prevent spyware being > > installed (assuming root has been properly locked down) and subsequently > > run. > > You could mount /home and other partitions where users have write access > like /tmp with the noexec option. Note that that wouldn't block the > execution of scripts, just binaries. Excellent idea, that would work just fine :-). I think /var/tmp should be= =20 added to the list. =20 If a script is run using #!/bin/sh would that then be executable with noexe= c=20 (i.e. running "./example.sh" instead of "sh ./example.sh) Thank you to everyone who has replied, it was been informative. =20 Regards David --nextPart1260918.VHSsbj4oUg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBIUSJQUaaFgP9pFrIRAovKAJwN0vTkqQ8mrZQ80SRy+ZvXhj+80gCeK4hp QKiJdPEiSPGGSDws3prkB74= =hPZJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1260918.VHSsbj4oUg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 13:34:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9AD106566B for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za) Received: from a.mail.ru.ac.za (a.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3188FC1D for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za) Received: from iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.249]:49386) by a.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1K6mwK-0003lB-H5; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:34:08 +0200 Received: from iwr61.iwr.ru.ac.za ([146.231.64.161]) by iwr.ru.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1K6mwK-000FmS-ER; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:34:08 +0200 From: "DA Forsyth" Organization: IWR To: Telpiz Sorin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:34:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <485141F9.31659.4E14366C@iwrtech.iwr.ru.ac.za> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <948245.61083.qm@web45811.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <948245.61083.qm@web45811.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: a.mail.ru.ac.za (146.231.129.33) Cc: Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: iwrTech@iwr.ru.ac.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:34:12 -0000 On 12 Jun 2008 , Telpiz Sorin entreated about "Installing FreeBSD": > =A0tried several times to install 7.0-RELEASE x amd64 on=A0my > friend's=A0machine that is eqiupped with hard drive manufactured by > Samsung. The hard drive (master) appears to have SATA interface, > nonetheless SYSINSTALL regognizes it as ad04! Besides, SYSINSTALL > complains about the disk's geometry=A0. The text console works very > slowly, though the machine=A0(ASUS motherboard) has 2 Gigs of RAM > and=A0a=A0good GeForce video board. For comparison, my old IBM machine ( > PentiumII , 128Mb RAM , 16Mb video memory ) runs Free BSD much more > faster. Could you help us fix the=A0trouble? Best regards and much > thanks. sorin at margelatto@yahoo.com=A0=A0=A0=A0 I had this with my Linux box at home. The solution is to change the CMOS setting for the drive mode to 'enhanced' (on my motherboard at any rate). If you use the compatibility mode then the chipset maps the SATA drives to the 'IDE' space and speed will be limited to somewhere around PIO4 (-: in my experience, sysinstall ALWAYS complains about geometry and I always just leave it and it always just works. YMMV -- DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 13:38:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F8B1065677 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:38:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDEB88FC12 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Jun 2008 09:38:34 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id KAC24058; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:38:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Jun 2008 09:38:30 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18513.9942.20838.525714@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:38:30 -0400 To: "Austin Evans" In-Reply-To: <166e19420806120530o30255dd1vc5fff8e40498b94d@mail.gmail.com> References: <166e19420806120530o30255dd1vc5fff8e40498b94d@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: How X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:38:35 -0000 Austin Evans writes: > I had a question concerning how to, suggest a feature in > freebsd. But I did not know who to email, I am very new to this > open-source feel, and was just wondering who, or where I post a > suggestion. One possibility: 1) Propose it here. Perhaps it's already been done and hiding under another name; perhaps someone is currently working on it; perhaps there are good reasons why it's never going to happen. 2) Once it's passed through the crucible, write it up as a PR - "http://www.freebsd.org/support/bugreports.html", probably as a Miscellaneous Non-Critical Change-Request. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 13:43:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 269AC106566B for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:43:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6818FC15 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:43:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so4320510rvf.43 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:43:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=dYmQZ2PP+8wlYQoYSNSAa9nBOsUzfkx+IJAcp8+1n58=; b=FnY2D9gj7KK2pM4jc4ShoOkRUhUfDlrNQ0mF8zB2IYBvrLGW66rd4ToJobwh4ENqjN Ryhy7X3Y6qV6SA7eOvNgBFc70PSLT4ouNH1v7APnMBHElwy5p5jKxUCFmGbB3JzC2QlA t1gRxfJBv7NQPWqPVjfnn3TDIXrTrXUhlnhhg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=uZeHKnyCbx8HnnaTqKTBiWIPQrpuVlDbT1jUwljy1Tx2ST5/75KwG4rZL/JRxDw2oF fT2cIttVKdyXvTlwIsrtYYy7V4ZChmgSvIZVcL26yX/3CqFGSo2EmucWTcF8mMirgqdU qAzbwEDCmdXhq0N4hTKk2f1M/f+BBszXmqYJI= Received: by 10.140.157.1 with SMTP id f1mr840152rve.220.1213278230680; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 103-120-245-190.fibertel.com.ar ( [190.245.120.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm1536621ywl.4.2008.06.12.06.43.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:43:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:43:44 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <382a6af20803130110s7dc1bd34o83c53730dcb542a5@mail.gmail.com> <17797413.post@talk.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <17797413.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806121043.45041.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: dell wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:43:51 -0000 On Thursday 12 June 2008 08:07:12 tholoko wrote: > I didn't find nothing about this card on web!!! > > Is there any generic driver? What's the chipset? Maybe Intel? > > THanks! > > Philippe Schottey wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I just bought a dell inspiron 1525. > > Included is a Dell=E2=84=A2 Wireless 1395 802.11b/g Mini-Card - Europe > > Can this card be used on FreeBSD? > > Is there a specific procedure to follow? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Philippe Schottey Nope .. not an intel .. those cards pack a sad, sad, sad, Broadcom BCM4328= =20 chipset ... More info in here. http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Tech/Wireless/Truemobile_ndiswrapper Just in case .. the best way to google up this kind of stuff is via=20 www.google.com/linux or www.google.com/bsd .. using a search criteria like= :=20 inspiron 1525 lspci or so ..=20 Blessings =2D-=20 Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 13:45:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF5F106568C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:45:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577C18FC1A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id XAA15395; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:45:04 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:45:02 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Matt Brennan In-Reply-To: <20080611174446.A45C4106574D@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Static NAT and PAT on FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:45:14 -0000 On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:17:11 -0400 Matt Brennan wrote: > I have continued to experiment and am still running into the same issues. > Anyone? > > -Matt > > On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Matt Brennan wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > I am running FreeBSD 6.2-release. I have been running PAT via natd > > and ipfw for some time now and it runs great. However, I continue to > > try and employ static NAT on this router, and as soon as I do so all > > other clients lose routing. My natd.conf is as below: > > > > unregistered_only > > use_sockets > > log_ipfw_denied > > redirect_address 10.100.1.2 66.92.79.20 > > alias_address 66.92.79.89 > > > > Whenever I run with this configuration all clients except the > > static'ed one lose routing out of the building. I have tried switching > > the order of the alias_address and redirect_address. > > > > Any help is appreciated. > > > > -Matt On rereading natd(8) and my natd.conf I wondered if you mightn't need: target_address 255.255.255.255 # unmapped go to alias_address but expect you'd get a more useful response to this over on freebsd-net@ cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 14:02:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E52106564A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmettee@pchotshots.com) Received: from mail.agoron.net (mail.agoron.net [38.119.227.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7276A8FC1F for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bmettee@pchotshots.com) Received: (qmail 21877 invoked by uid 89); 12 Jun 2008 13:35:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dev2.pchotshots.com) (12.172.123.228) by mail.agoron.net with SMTP; 12 Jun 2008 13:35:32 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20080612091523.0362dee8@mail.agoron.net> X-Sender: bmettee@pchotshots.com@mail.agoron.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:35:39 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Brad Mettee Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: new hardware - compatible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:02:19 -0000 Hi all, I'm new to FreeBSD and don't have a lot of time to go digging through archives/info to find answers, so excuse this if it's a "noob" question. It's an emergency server build, and needs to be solid and fast. Will FreeBSD have any problems running on the following hardware? Which would be better FreeBSD 6.3 or 7? Intel Quad Core Extreme 3Ghz, LGA775 Asus P5K-E Motherboard (P35 chipset, Onboard LAN) 4G Kingston DDR 2 RAM (PC2 6400) Seagate 500G, SATA 2, 7200RPM GeForce 7200GS 128MB 32-bit GDDR2 PCI-E x16 Video Card (basically a cheap vid card) Samsung SATA CD-ROM Thanks in advance. (I've been building/running x86 boxes since DOS 3.3, just haven't had need of *nix environment yet, so I'm not total noob) Brad Mettee PC HotShots, Inc. Baltimore, MD (410) 426-7617 -> Let us bring out the *Power* of your PCs. <- -> Custom Business Software Solutions since 1991 <- visit http://www.pchotshots.com for information about our company. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 14:10:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8FC1065681 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanislav@corp.n9.ru) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973F18FC17 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanislav@corp.n9.ru) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1810690ywe.13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.125.159.1 with SMTP id l1mr79752mko.139.1213278336023; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.199.4 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <319048390806120645p6dd2e2e3n983c13b793ccdf6b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:45:36 +0400 From: Stanislav To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <319048390806120643n2033cfd1m795eaaf414c9f15c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <319048390806120643n2033cfd1m795eaaf414c9f15c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Fwd: twe0 interrupt storm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:10:51 -0000 Hi, I have problem on FreeBSD 6.2, 7.0 with 3ware 8006-2LP RAID-1 controller: Model 8006-2LP Serial # L018501C7271467 Firmware FE8S 1.05.00.068 Driver 1.50.01.002 BIOS BE7X 1.08.00.048 Monitor ME7X 1.01.00.040 Memory Installed 512 kB # of Ports 2 # of Drives 2 # of Units 1 Jun 11 21:38:00 gans kernel: twe0: <3ware Storage Controller. Driver version 1.50.01.002> port 0xe800-0xe80f mem 0xfebffc00-0xfebffc0f,0xfe000000-0xfe7fffff irq 20 at device 2.0 on pci3 Jun 11 21:38:00 gans kernel: twe0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Jun 11 21:38:00 gans kernel: twe0: [ITHREAD] Jun 11 21:38:00 gans kernel: twe0: 2 ports, Firmware FE8S 1.05.00.068, BIOS BE7X 1.08.00.048 /var/log/messages Jun 10 14:51:36 gans kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq21:"; throttling interrupt source Jun 10 14:52:07 gans last message repeated 31 times Jun 10 14:54:08 gans last message repeated 121 times Jun 10 15:04:09 gans last message repeated 598 times Jun 10 15:14:10 gans last message repeated 599 times Jun 10 15:24:11 gans last message repeated 600 times Jun 10 15:34:12 gans last message repeated 598 times Jun 10 15:44:13 gans last message repeated 598 times Jun 10 15:54:14 gans last message repeated 600 times Jun 10 16:04:15 gans last message repeated 600 times Jun 10 16:14:16 gans last message repeated 599 times Jun 10 16:24:17 gans last message repeated 598 times [root@gans /home/sg]# vmstat -w 5 procs memory page disk faults cpu r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr tw0 in sy cs us sy id 8 3 0 5389M 220M 1410 23 5 3 809 1762 0 11200 1377 3451 26 15 59 7 5 0 5505M 139M 16909 188 1 0 11025 0 81 565387 182791 30440 68 18 14 1 6 0 5468M 158M 19244 35 1 0 19469 0 42 563246 217685 7941 75 22 3 6 3 0 5276M 235M 23078 7 1 0 27426 0 135 555198 118844 73807 33 20 47 0 0 0 5177M 283M 9636 3 1 0 20972 0 108 564052 144113 6643 29 14 57 5 0 0 5176M 284M 8968 7 0 0 8607 0 22 567849 143837 6767 27 12 60 9 1 0 5199M 268M 14417 0 0 0 25905 0 31 567551 249480 6951 48 22 29 1 3 0 5341M 201M 8095 16 25 0 5087 0 112 565233 63826 6777 28 8 63 1 4 0 5356M 184M 30195 11 2 0 38720 0 95 560968 137901 52156 71 22 7 1 3 0 5266M 225M 13461 2 1 0 15518 0 46 564340 101664 9105 33 13 54 [root@gans /home/sg]# vmstat -i interrupt total rate irq1: atkbd0 4 0 irq16: ohci0 1 0 irq17: ohci1 ohci3 1 0 irq18: ohci2 ohci4 1 0 irq21: twe0 38629583391 101980 cpu0: timer 757587412 1999 cpu1: timer 757587403 1999 Total 40144758213 105980 I have recompiled kernel to 6.2-STABLE, 7.0-RELEASE, 7.0-RELEASE-p1, 7.0-STABLE but error persists. System work good for some time (few days) and than vmstat -i irq20; rate increases from 60-90 to 100000+ and than system hangs. After reboot system work good for some time. I have replaced sever, moved disks to another server with same hardware (and controller), and error persists. Kind Regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 14:15:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E811065672 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:15:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pascal@clermont.cc) Received: from mail.clermont.cc (clermont.cc [69.70.120.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8B38FC12 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:15:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pascal@clermont.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.clermont.cc (Postfix) with ESMTP id D695A1CC38; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:08:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.clermont.cc ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.clermont.cc [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26581-04; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:08:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dwarf.clermont.cc (dwarf.clermont.cc [192.168.100.10]) (Authenticated sender: pascal@clermont.cc) by mail.clermont.cc (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 904101CC2E; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:08:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4850F508.4000406@clermont.cc> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:06:00 +0000 From: Pascal S Clermont User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080606) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Mettee References: <4.3.2.7.2.20080612091523.0362dee8@mail.agoron.net> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20080612091523.0362dee8@mail.agoron.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new hardware - compatible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:15:23 -0000 Brad Mettee wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm new to FreeBSD and don't have a lot of time to go digging through > archives/info to find answers, so excuse this if it's a "noob" > question. It's an emergency server build, and needs to be solid and fast. > > Will FreeBSD have any problems running on the following hardware? > Which would be better FreeBSD 6.3 or 7? > > Intel Quad Core Extreme 3Ghz, LGA775 > Asus P5K-E Motherboard (P35 chipset, Onboard LAN) > 4G Kingston DDR 2 RAM (PC2 6400) > Seagate 500G, SATA 2, 7200RPM > GeForce 7200GS 128MB 32-bit GDDR2 PCI-E x16 Video Card (basically a > cheap vid card) > Samsung SATA CD-ROM > All these components will work. I have not tested the Geforce 7200, but I doubt that it will give you any problems. Pascal Clermont > Thanks in advance. > > (I've been building/running x86 boxes since DOS 3.3, just haven't had > need of *nix environment yet, so I'm not total noob) > > Brad Mettee > PC HotShots, Inc. > Baltimore, MD > (410) 426-7617 > > -> Let us bring out the *Power* of your PCs. <- > -> Custom Business Software Solutions since 1991 <- > > visit http://www.pchotshots.com for information about our company. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 14:16:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0531065673 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:16:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simonychang@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038F48FC13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:16:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simonychang@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so368579yxl.13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:16:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=WpYvy2OlsbhPXOvaFjgO40TLE6sZ1kry1CsVE2/00TM=; b=h9ineC9AmGKbjdXFk0z9z9qu9DqmsZ41EtAQgM1j0jwoAfais56ZeX0vx3tMcekBAP w/Rml+ebu47L6h5HfTxnbdL/7bzJR97rfRbpi8LXza7Av9CeenulUSy0azEyeTOiz5I5 EfPwlMe7uKSodtEgbZSb+oCB+G48b0x3DGt+E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=PNLE2TD+fxTA+fzbHCsC8o53gLRKhy01lTnz+fsZVpkDx9YZkArlJeonSOKvZ0V8Xb 5wufX/kYjUBg7ImlY6Sb7Nr26ZjvwHwrmUaMy0W5qKmy2wdQiDsXU7JmjaP+LADVvZ0/ vWaPedslbTeXrHOw8fUBLp/4ZJT2Z18RNRqjo= Received: by 10.150.177.20 with SMTP id z20mr2350927ybe.214.1213278549641; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.38.17 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8efc42630806120649y4c59b53dvf4f70965d5aa1a2b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:49:09 -0400 From: "Simon Chang" To: "Austin Evans" In-Reply-To: <166e19420806120530o30255dd1vc5fff8e40498b94d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <166e19420806120530o30255dd1vc5fff8e40498b94d@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:16:29 -0000 > I had a question concerning how to, suggest a feature in freebsd. But I did > not know who to email, I am very new to this open-source feel, and was just > wondering who, or where I post a suggestion. You have the right mailing list, so go ahead with your question/comment. Just know that if you are suggesting a feature in FreeBSD and are not a programmer yourself, a lot will depend on how involved the feature is and whether you can get someone to work on it. At least in this circumstance, "if you want a lot you have to give a lot". SC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 14:34:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A1F106571D for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:34:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex.w474@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2122.google.com (yx-out-2122.google.com [74.125.44.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1668FC1C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:34:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex.w474@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 35so1182643yxh.13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:34:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.152.17 with SMTP id z17mr52951ybd.25.1213280666102; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:24:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20080604083159.cbaafd2c.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-IP: 82.207.118.178 References: <20080604142004.15d83a57@nogrod.nicoelro.net> <20080604083159.cbaafd2c.wmoran@potentialtech.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080404 Firefox/2.0.0.14,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) X-HTTP-Via: 1.1 btr.unisquad.com:6128 (squid/2.5.STABLE14) Message-ID: From: AlexW474 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: use a specific php.ini for php cli X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:34:46 -0000 On Jun 4, 3:31 pm, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Nicolas Letellier : > > > Hello. > > > I would like to know if it is possible to have anotherphp.ini forphp > > command line? I have aphp.ini with many restrictions (open_basedir, > > disabled functions, etc...) used byapache(and mod_php). > > > I would like to user anotherphp.ini file forphpcommand line (I don't > > want to have disabled functions or safe_mode for command linephp). > > > I use php5 in the port tree. > >From 'manphp': > > --php-ini path|file > -c path|file Look forphp.ini file in the directory path or use the > specified file You can use this instruction: http://www.witsuite.com/support/knowledge-base/manual-installation/install-php.php#configure-php-to-use-in-command-prompt It clearly shows how to use different php.ini for Apache PHP and PHP CLI. You can even create a few bat files with different environment. Regards, Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 14:40:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77591065680 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:40:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC798FC1F for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:40:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [213.142.183.219] (helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K6nyQ-0001W8-9E; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:40:22 +0200 Message-ID: <48513559.3000306@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:40:25 +0200 From: Pietro Cerutti Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080610) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Porter Clark" References: <20080612005453.GA26319@auricle.charter.net> In-Reply-To: <20080612005453.GA26319@auricle.charter.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://gahr.ch/pgp/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - FreeBSD.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nanobsd on a CD-ROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:40:30 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 J. Porter Clark wrote: | Is it possible to build a CD-ROM with a bootable NanoBSD on it? | If so, how? | Yes, Section 2.2 of http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/nanobsd/index.html - -- Pietro Cerutti gahr@FreeBSD.org PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEAREKAAYFAkhRNVgACgkQwMJqmJVx9464GACffZgUQfMvugbKkIqSwifTcZRY wssAn21f0/DRX+ooPdHRvDNWHcA+AXVb =JElR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 14:57:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E55106566B for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:57:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B82D8FC18 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:57:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3477354wfg.7 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:57:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iulmiDEdhGRSSEvlasg8RPTBpx7nyc8kV+/k82mrFlA=; b=SvPOUKnOVQbnJQ65OrBaIygXuO4MSCm23GrWNjz7diwEf8BbczLfJw4e+rLR1Ro7XG IvyCmhix0QzkFSZneTR+XYf+8jiBEB6s8pqkH2ncPb0RcCnK8bJbjOXS/JvDJXlCKr0g cj1oK4oWr7XahLr5BH/SrvIHidsnKmAkFjH9E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sK4ySlYOzSxHqwaUoXfspVGLmmAYE+1Ej32guLQ/DWtLQvqK2VdvYBNdy4oFVfusAd SN5H+U6uhIgnimfgITIbBmmlwlMeDKUgl6B55I+kgUZFgOUCBSE9f13DS2S5uppGwLb5 SFmeJjf9aJZpq2GGxJ/U2vqBGbtnbq/dsL1No= Received: by 10.142.199.16 with SMTP id w16mr548636wff.268.1213282672328; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?202.127.19.74? ( [202.127.19.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 27sm2820501wff.7.2008.06.12.07.57.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <485137E3.9010803@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:51:15 +0800 From: "fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> <20080611211821.GB25793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> <20080612113725.J4402@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080612113725.J4402@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:57:53 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Is FreeBSD going to enhance himself on the desktop ? It seems that >> FreeBSD > > i don't understand your question. FreeBSD can run any unix program, be > in "server program" or "desktop program" whatever "desktop" means for you. > > there is nothing to be enhanced. > For example, I think the installation and local language support(I need to read and input Chinese frequently) of ubuntu may be better than FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 15:11:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BDD5106566C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:11:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8C88FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:11:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m5CF6bPO029656; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:06:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m5CF6asm029655; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:06:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:06:36 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: "fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com" Message-ID: <20080612150636.GB29540@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> <20080611211821.GB25793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:11:47 -0000 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 04:40:36PM +0800, fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com wrote: > Jerry McAllister wrote: > >On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:50:36PM +0800, fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com wrote: > > > >>Hi all, > >> > >>I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows: > >> > >>T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB > >>nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), > >>Bluetooth, Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c > >>Li-Ion, > >> > >>My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm > >>from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling > >>and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I > >>am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or > >>another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. > >> > >>My questions are: > >>1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW, > >>wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important. > >> > >>2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux > >>Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many > >>commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux > >>binary compatibility stable enough for work ? > > > >It should run FreeBSD just fine. Check the hardware compatibility > >lists to check for specific peripherals. > > > >The Linux compatibility layer worked well. Should be no problem. > > > >////jerry > > > >>Thanks a lot. > > Thank you guys. > > I will try to install FreeBSD on a second hard disk to have a test. > > Is FreeBSD going to enhance himself on the desktop ? It seems that FreeBSD > focuses mainly on server, while Linux has improved a lot in the past a few > years both on server and desktop. But I'm still eager to try FreeBSD on my > notebook :P What FreeBSD focuses on is being an Operating System - a foundation platform for what you want to run. There are plenty of desktop utilities that you can easily install to get the environment you wish. But, FreeBSD does not decide for you which to use. For example, I prefer a fairly simple desktop without a lot of extra garbage in my way. So, I just use Afterstep. Some people seem to need the security blanket feeling of all that extra junk. KDE and Gnome are a couple of desktops lots of people use. Whichever you want, they are in the ports system for easy install. Learn to use the ports system. It makes FreeBSD very powerful as a desktop as well as a server. ////jerry > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 15:20:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E037D106567A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F09C8FC17 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K6obO-0001EB-2T; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:20:38 +0100 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id m5CFKbC1018191; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:20:37 +0100 Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1476DFCABAF; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:20:10 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:20:10 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: David Naylor Message-ID: <20080612152010.GA7182@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: David Naylor , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200806112225.36221.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200806112225.36221.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:20:37 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:20:43 -0000 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25:32PM +0200, David Naylor wrote: > > Hi All, > > Today I read an article describing how my government had lost ZAR200 000 000 > from fraud. This is just under $25 000 000. The article credited this loss > largely due to the use of spyware. > > My question is how secure is FreeBSD (including KDE, GNOME and XFCE) to > attacks, including cracking and spyware. In addition, is there anyway to > prevent a user from executing a program that is not owned by root (i.e. any > program installed by the user), this would prevent spyware being installed > (assuming root has been properly locked down) and subsequently run. > > If anyone, in addition, has answers for Linux and *BSD it would be great to > know as well. You might want to have a look at using a restricted shell for users. I know bash & pdksh have a restricted mode. A quick look at the manpages for sh & csh suggests they don't. Bash and pdksh are in ports. Can't tell you which is best as I haven't used either in restricted mode. > > Best Regards > > David Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 15:33:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6D8106567C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.10.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465708FC18 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:33:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from [192.168.11.22] (westmark.nagual.nl [192.168.11.22]) by nagual.nl (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/yanta) with ESMTP id m5CFYM7W006085 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:34:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Dick Hoogendijk To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <20080612132527.K5722@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <4F9C9299A10AE74E89EA580D14AA10A61A193E@royal64.emp.zapto.org> <20080612132527.K5722@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: de nagual Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:33:30 +0200 Message-Id: <1213284810.879.7.camel@westmark> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 192.168.11.35 Subject: RE: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:33:48 -0000 On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 13:37 +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > for example you can't select per file (or at least - per > pseudo-filesystem) if you want no protection, mirrored or raidz. Isn't it a pity that the fbsd implementation of ZFS lacks such a feature. Your anti stories of ZFS often show these aspects. Almost none of your comments on zfs are valid in Solaris. But hey, what the heck, use what you want. I don't write for SUN, I use ZFS on all systems and it never disappointed me. It's blazingly fast, very flexible, configurable. Stripes, mirrors, it's all so easy. It will be even better in time. Conclusion: Wojciech Puchar is against zfs. so what. I belong to the pro's fwiw. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 15:36:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C977B1065673 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:36:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkjp@charter.net) Received: from mail.cluebytwelve.org (clueby12.org [198.186.190.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79698FC13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:36:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkjp@charter.net) Received: from localdomain.local (68-186-133-111.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com [68.186.133.111]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cluebytwelve.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B42E1B5CA for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:36:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: by localdomain.local (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C587AB882; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:36:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:36:14 -0500 From: "J. Porter Clark" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080612153614.GA32605@auricle.charter.net> References: <20080612005453.GA26319@auricle.charter.net> <48513559.3000306@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48513559.3000306@FreeBSD.org> Organization: http://www.angelfire.com/ego/porterclark/ User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: Nanobsd on a CD-ROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:36:18 -0000 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 04:40:25PM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > > J. Porter Clark wrote: > | Is it possible to build a CD-ROM with a bootable NanoBSD on it? > | If so, how? > > Yes, Section 2.2 of > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/nanobsd/index.html Well, no, because I can't do this: # dd if=_.disk.full of=/dev/acd0 bs=64k If I do this: % cdrecord -v -immed driveropts=burnfree dev=1,0,0 -data _.disk.full then try to boot the machine from the CD-R, I get a "-" cursor for a second or two, then it switches over to the hard disks to boot from. Okay, it's possible I messed up the compilation options or something. Is the cdrecord command above the correct procedure to use to build a bootable nanobsd CD-R? -- J. Porter Clark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 15:43:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6FFD106564A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:43:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from runner.otenet.gr (runner.otenet.gr [195.170.0.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABA88FC19 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:43:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [83.235.67.30]) by runner.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m5CFevAD023405 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:43:32 +0300 Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4370416.home.otenet.gr [79.130.31.224]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m5CEHLGj002992; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:17:22 +0300 Message-ID: <48512FF5.60709@otenet.gr> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:17:25 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Mettee References: <4.3.2.7.2.20080612091523.0362dee8@mail.agoron.net> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20080612091523.0362dee8@mail.agoron.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new hardware - compatible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:43:36 -0000 Brad Mettee wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm new to FreeBSD and don't have a lot of time to go digging through > archives/info to find answers, so excuse this if it's a "noob" > question. It's an emergency server build, and needs to be solid and fast. > > Will FreeBSD have any problems running on the following hardware? > Which would be better FreeBSD 6.3 or 7? > > Intel Quad Core Extreme 3Ghz, LGA775 > Asus P5K-E Motherboard (P35 chipset, Onboard LAN) > 4G Kingston DDR 2 RAM (PC2 6400) > Seagate 500G, SATA 2, 7200RPM > GeForce 7200GS 128MB 32-bit GDDR2 PCI-E x16 Video Card (basically a > cheap vid card) > Samsung SATA CD-ROM > > Thanks in advance. > > (I've been building/running x86 boxes since DOS 3.3, just haven't had > need of *nix environment yet, so I'm not total noob) > > If you are a total "noob" as you put it, you will have to put considerable amounts of time into this, understanding basic UNIX / FreeBSD concepts and such. May I suggest you start reading the handbook right away: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook Concerning the compatibility of your hardware, read the release notes: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/hardware.html (I suggest you go with FreeBSD 7 unless there is any specific reason not to) The specs seem ok to me. The graphics card is unimportant for a server (nvidia cards work OK in general) and according to the specs you have a Marvel LAN supported by the msk(4) driver. It should work fine. To use your 4Gb RAM efficiently, go with the 64bit version of FreeBSD (known as "amd64") From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 15:52:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2EC106564A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:52:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joey@mingrone.org) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63388FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:52:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joey@mingrone.org) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so391348yxl.13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.11.6 with SMTP id 6mr2557258ybk.11.1213284486464; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.78.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:28:06 -0300 From: "Joey Mingrone" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: sound card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:52:25 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to determine what sound card a notebook has. There are three relevant dmesg lines below, but looking at freebsd's hardware notes, I can't tell whether I should use the snd_ich(4) driver for an Intel ICH4 card, the snd_hda(4) driver for an 82801 card or a sigmatel card. Any suggestions? %cat /var/run/dmesg.boot| grep pcm pcm0: port 0xee00-0xeeff,0xe000-0xe03f mem 0xffaff800-0xffaff9ff,0xffaff400-0xffaff4ff irq 4 at device 31.5 on pci0 pcm0: [ITHREAD] pcm0: Thanks, Joey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 16:13:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83771065677 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from camiloreyes82@yahoo.com) Received: from web63906.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web63906.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.97.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51B978FC0C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from camiloreyes82@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 35041 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jun 2008 16:13:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=FoL4DrE2WlpG4kVYTuTiK8jPeb9CRbvjxATKCJ7X+ybgTY097l/heuyF287qXYjSpRgjGeM2IXGggyqq/maJj4vXVejeOOMT7o2a/ixCYJtwkfUCN9I983901Man8vUIsttavmLpluyRF3VXQFEwlhgMz2QrvC54SYIyFLH5EbM=; Received: from [146.23.68.23] by web63906.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:13:50 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:13:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Camilo Reyes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080612120018.C56161065771@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <204633.35034.qm@web63906.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: dell wireless X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: camiloreyes82@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:13:52 -0000 Do a lookup on what pciconf -lv says...then do a search on Google to find the chipset driver. "Bono Vince Malum" ------------ -Camilo > I didn't find nothing about this card on web!!! > > Is there any generic driver? What's the chipset? Maybe > Intel? > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 16:26:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106241065676 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:26:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joey@mingrone.org) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35668FC22 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:26:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joey@mingrone.org) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so397343yxl.13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.108.5 with SMTP id k5mr1959433ybm.124.1213286505513; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.78.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:01:45 -0300 From: "Joey Mingrone" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: determining sound card device from /var/run/dmesg.boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:26:33 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to determine what sound card a notebook has. There are three relevant dmesg lines below, but looking at freebsd's hardware notes, I can't tell whether I should use the snd_ich(4) driver for an Intel ICH4 card, the snd_hda(4) driver for an 82801 card or a sigmatel card. Any suggestions? %cat /var/run/dmesg.boot| grep pcm pcm0: port 0xee00-0xeeff,0xe000-0xe03f mem 0xffaff800-0xffaff9ff,0xffaff400-0xffaff4ff irq 4 at device 31.5 on pci0 pcm0: [ITHREAD] pcm0: Thanks, Joey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 16:26:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77BC106566B for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EBA8FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5CGQ1p4012461; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:26:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5CGQ1we012458; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:26:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:26:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Dick Hoogendijk In-Reply-To: <1213284810.879.7.camel@westmark> Message-ID: <20080612182533.O12433@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <1a5a68400806080604ped08ce8p120fc21107e7de81@mail.gmail.com> <4F9C9299A10AE74E89EA580D14AA10A61A193E@royal64.emp.zapto.org> <20080612132527.K5722@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1213284810.879.7.camel@westmark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: RE: FreeBSD + ZFS on a production server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:26:50 -0000 >> pseudo-filesystem) if you want no protection, mirrored or raidz. > > Isn't it a pity that the fbsd implementation of ZFS lacks such a > feature. Your anti stories of ZFS often show these aspects. > Almost none of your comments on zfs are valid in Solaris. AFAIK on solaris set copies= and what i told before is the same. am i wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 16:31:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540B11065671 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:31:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from streambag@streambag.se) Received: from mail6.wasadata.com (mail6.wasadata.com [85.8.31.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7568FC1A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:31:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from streambag@streambag.se) Received: from localhost (85.8.10.19.static.se.wasadata.net [85.8.10.19]) by mail6.wasadata.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C153E79; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:30:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:06:58 +0200 From: Robert Andersson To: Brad Mettee Message-ID: <20080612180658.3275b4e3@streambag.se> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20080612091523.0362dee8@mail.agoron.net> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20080612091523.0362dee8@mail.agoron.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new hardware - compatible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:31:02 -0000 On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:35:39 -0400 Brad Mettee wrote: > Intel Quad Core Extreme 3Ghz, LGA775 > Asus P5K-E Motherboard (P35 chipset, Onboard LAN) > 4G Kingston DDR 2 RAM (PC2 6400) > Seagate 500G, SATA 2, 7200RPM > GeForce 7200GS 128MB 32-bit GDDR2 PCI-E x16 Video Card (basically a > cheap vid card) > Samsung SATA CD-ROM One important note may be that you will probably want to use the 64-bit version of FreeBSD (called AMD64) to use all that RAM. However, as far as I know, the proprietary nvidia drivers will not work in 64-bit mode. Since you don't seem to be aiming at massive graphics performance, perhaps the open source drivers will suffice? / Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 16:32:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7094106567E for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E58598FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:32:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 31996 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2008 16:04:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.162.21) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 12 Jun 2008 16:04:16 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EC81C17073; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:04:14 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:04:14 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: Joey Mingrone Message-ID: <20080612160414.GA33794@ozzmosis.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sound card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:32:20 -0000 On Thu 2008-06-12 12:28:06 UTC-0300, Joey Mingrone (joey@mingrone.org) wrote: > I'm trying to determine what sound card a notebook has. There are > three relevant dmesg lines below, but looking at freebsd's hardware > notes, I can't tell whether I should use the snd_ich(4) driver for an > Intel ICH4 card, the snd_hda(4) driver for an 82801 card or a sigmatel > card. Any suggestions? I think the idea is to look at /dev/sndstat: DING! ozzmosis@blizzard [~]cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0xd800, 0xdc40 irq 10 bufsz 16384 kld snd_ich (1p/1r/1v channels duplex default) 2:00 ozzmosis@blizzard [~]grep snd_ich /boot/loader.conf snd_ich_load="YES" > %cat /var/run/dmesg.boot| grep pcm > pcm0: port 0xee00-0xeeff,0xe000-0xe03f mem > 0xffaff800-0xffaff9ff,0xffaff400-0xffaff4ff irq 4 at device 31.5 on > pci0 > pcm0: [ITHREAD] > pcm0: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 16:43:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6600B1065676 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8DDA8FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:43:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDF9114E18; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:43:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:43:42 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: 7U3PDe4rqZI3TiVNVbxomcooR7dX3PVRapTCpy2Rv+Zt 1213289021 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9CB04102AF; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:43:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <62860DF8-423D-48B3-9757-CC3D24732CF0@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: David Naylor In-Reply-To: <200806121519.12820.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:43:40 -0500 References: <200806112225.36221.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> <20080611214743.GA18371@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <200806121519.12820.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:43:48 -0000 On Jun 12, 2008, at 8:19 AM, David Naylor wrote: > I think this argument is rather mute, just because there are no > programs > exploiting security vulnerabilities does not been there are not > vulnerabilities, But it is far from moot if you are interested in the actual threat against your system. In a sense, using a less popular OS is a form of "security by obscurity" which is not to be heavily relied on, but still it does make a real, practical, difference in the case that you described. > and a determined cracker would create his own program. You have not articulated what you are trying to defend against. Do you anticipate determined crackers going after your particular system and what resources will such attackers have? We can't talk about a system being "secure" in general, but the question needs to be framed in terms of "secure against what". > That said I hope there are, actually, no vulnerabilities. That is demanding too much. What you need to hope for is a combination of "no known unpatched vulnerabilities at the moment" and more importantly "procedures and practices to keep things that way". As Bruce Schneier likes to say, "Security is not a product but a process". The vast majority of actual system compromises involve failure of system administrators to keep systems patched and follow good security practices. One reason that I switched from Linux to FreeBSD is that I find it much easier to maintain FreeBSD, particularly in terms of security updates. I have been responsible for Linux machines that did get rooted because I was having problems keeping them up-to-date for a variety of reasons. > [Security through obscurity is just an illusion] In your post you mentioned concern about spyware. It is not an illusion that FreeBSD has not been targeted by spyware writers while Windows has. Even if some of that is the consequence of security by obscurity, it is no illusion. Of course we need to understand that those security benefits from obscurity are fragile, but we shouldn't dismiss it entirely. Again, what sorts of benefits such things may add (or subtract) depends on the nature of the attacker. Cheers, -j From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 16:54:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E780106567D for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cpanel03.rubas-s03.net (cpanel03.rubas-s03.net [195.182.222.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52EF8FC19 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gahr@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [213.142.183.219] (helo=gahrtop.localhost) by cpanel03.rubas-s03.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K6q4P-0000R9-MY; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:54:41 +0200 Message-ID: <485154D5.3060707@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:54:45 +0200 From: Pietro Cerutti Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080610) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Porter Clark" References: <20080612005453.GA26319@auricle.charter.net> <48513559.3000306@FreeBSD.org> <20080612153614.GA32605@auricle.charter.net> In-Reply-To: <20080612153614.GA32605@auricle.charter.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 OpenPGP: id=9571F78E; url=http://gahr.ch/pgp/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cpanel03.rubas-s03.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - FreeBSD.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nanobsd on a CD-ROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:54:50 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 J. Porter Clark wrote: | On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 04:40:25PM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote: |> J. Porter Clark wrote: |> | Is it possible to build a CD-ROM with a bootable NanoBSD on it? |> | If so, how? |> |> Yes, Section 2.2 of |> |> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/nanobsd/index.html | | Well, no, because I can't do this: | | # dd if=_.disk.full of=/dev/acd0 bs=64k | | If I do this: | | % cdrecord -v -immed driveropts=burnfree dev=1,0,0 -data _.disk.full Try with burncd | burncd -f /dev/acd0 data _.disk.full fixate | | then try to boot the machine from the CD-R, I get a "-" cursor | for a second or two, then it switches over to the hard disks to | boot from. | | Okay, it's possible I messed up the compilation options or | something. Is the cdrecord command above the correct procedure | to use to build a bootable nanobsd CD-R? | - -- Pietro Cerutti gahr@FreeBSD.org PGP Public Key: http://gahr.ch/pgp -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEAREKAAYFAkhRVNQACgkQwMJqmJVx945fSwCg0AmvDiM+ygiTun1hbqAY4n2d DtAAn0avabwFvirbzBwMF2lfn1/CTnng =RZKx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 16:57:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F3631065676 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:57:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl [213.51.146.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23FFA8FC12 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:57:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [213.51.146.188] (port=42440 helo=smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K6pJD-0004z7-Uf; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:05:55 +0200 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([84.25.65.88]:4925 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K6pJC-0001rH-T9; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:05:55 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1358039885; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:05:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48514961.5020402@boosten.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:05:53 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joey Mingrone References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080612-0, 06/12/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sound card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:57:28 -0000 Joey Mingrone wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to determine what sound card a notebook has. There are > three relevant dmesg lines below, but looking at freebsd's hardware > notes, I can't tell whether I should use the snd_ich(4) driver for an > Intel ICH4 card, the snd_hda(4) driver for an 82801 card or a sigmatel > card. Any suggestions? > > > %cat /var/run/dmesg.boot| grep pcm > pcm0: port 0xee00-0xeeff,0xe000-0xe03f mem > 0xffaff800-0xffaff9ff,0xffaff400-0xffaff4ff irq 4 at device 31.5 on > pci0 > pcm0: [ITHREAD] > pcm0: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html Especially: If you are not sure which driver to use, you may try to load the snd_driver module: # kldload snd_driver This is a metadriver loading the most common device drivers at once. This speeds up the search for the correct driver. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 17:08:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF8F1065671 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F095E8FC17 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so403474yxl.13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=RUc7ddov+O7SWJhxuzdWTIclHgis77vwyLgqEluJxwI=; b=ChkSCoq5+Po36EuGuTfjGIyv0i4MIcYrufgCp3AMzqP7p6JgqaeS1KANRI9zpxNeqb nB+hX3cet1AJ/L5EAFGFjlfu9N6HxdFRsiUIA/L7Djqe0JE1gPWNfwBHL9wEIMFLOks7 KPGwD1MCQqWL79T2WwpirPFET5KmPGG0qjldc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:references; b=mTAYFXiehktBGQ4eo7YaugOZuDBVsuwSf34W7rsxKxTOHk+F4qmLy76jXLHO5Os+HX cokOZsjq/mNB7Bq/yK8cc2Pdt6Tuz6Uyyg1Fg9P1NAdmdT1DKaUrUZUv3HAY1o9fmzMj DEy2Y+3uu1NZa1/LN2hz6eC6e/sUZI648IHcM= Received: by 10.150.197.8 with SMTP id u8mr2708176ybf.181.1213290526140; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.140.14 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8cb6106e0806121008m62acbf46vcded040dd37bee74@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:08:46 -0400 From: "Josh Carroll" To: "Brad Mettee" In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20080612091523.0362dee8@mail.agoron.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4.3.2.7.2.20080612091523.0362dee8@mail.agoron.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new hardware - compatible? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh.carroll@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:08:47 -0000 > Intel Quad Core Extreme 3Ghz, LGA775 > Asus P5K-E Motherboard (P35 chipset, Onboard LAN) I have the same motherboard, and it runs great on 7.0-RELEASE (amd64). I do not, however, use the onboard ethernet controller. I use a pair of em cards, so I can't speak to the Marvell Gigabit chipset and whether it works or not. The onboard ethernet on the Asus P5B is an re, and works fine in 7-STABLE. I also recently put a SATA DVD-RW into this box, which works well with atapicam (for cdrecord/growisofs), but it doesn't work with burncd. Not a huge deal, but just an FYI. Here is my dmesg and pciconf -l -v output. Note that the ICH9 controller shows up as "Intel AHCI controller", but it works great (full performance). Thanks, Josh dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Mar 25 22:23:29 EDT 2008 root@pflog.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PFLOG Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (3204.04-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6fb Stepping = 11 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0xe3bd AMD Features=0x20100800 AMD Features2=0x1 Cores per package: 4 usable memory = 4286599168 (4088 MB) avail memory = 4125327360 (3934 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard netsmb_dev: loaded acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, cff00000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 cpu0: on acpi0 ACPI Warning (tbutils-0243): Incorrect checksum in table [OEMB] - 8C, should be 84 [20070320] coretemp0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 coretemp1: on cpu1 cpu2: on acpi0 coretemp2: on cpu2 cpu3: on acpi0 coretemp3: on cpu3 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 vgapci0: mem 0xfd000000-0xfdffffff,0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0xfc000000-0xfcffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 uhci0: port 0xc800-0xc81f irq 16 at device 26.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xc880-0xc89f irq 21 at device 26.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci1: [ITHREAD] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: on usb1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xcc00-0xcc1f irq 18 at device 26.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci2: [ITHREAD] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: on usb2 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xfbfffc00-0xfbffffff irq 18 at device 26.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci0: [ITHREAD] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: on usb3 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pcib2: irq 17 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib2 pcib3: irq 17 at device 28.4 on pci0 pci2: on pcib3 atapci0: port 0xdc00-0xdc07,0xd880-0xd883,0xd800-0xd807,0xd480-0xd483,0xd400-0xd40f mem 0xfeafe000-0xfeafffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 atapci0: [ITHREAD] atapci0: AHCI called from vendor specific driver atapci0: AHCI Version 01.00 controller with 2 ports detected ata2: on atapci0 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci0 ata3: [ITHREAD] ata4: on atapci0 ata4: [ITHREAD] uhci3: port 0xc080-0xc09f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci3: [ITHREAD] usb4: on uhci3 usb4: USB revision 1.0 uhub4: on usb4 uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci4: port 0xc400-0xc41f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci4: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci4: [ITHREAD] usb5: on uhci4 usb5: USB revision 1.0 uhub5: on usb5 uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci5: port 0xc480-0xc49f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci5: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci5: [ITHREAD] usb6: on uhci5 usb6: USB revision 1.0 uhub6: on usb6 uhub6: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci1: mem 0xfbfff800-0xfbfffbff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci1: [ITHREAD] usb7: EHCI version 1.0 usb7: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb4 usb5 usb6 usb7: on ehci1 usb7: USB revision 2.0 uhub7: on usb7 uhub7: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pcib4: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 em0: port 0xec00-0xec3f mem 0xfebe0000-0xfebfffff,0xfebc0000-0xfebdffff irq 17 at device 1.0 on pci4 em0: Ethernet address: 00:0e:0c:6c:b9:16 em0: [FILTER] em1: port 0xe880-0xe8bf mem 0xfeb80000-0xfeb9ffff,0xfeb60000-0xfeb7ffff irq 18 at device 2.0 on pci4 em1: Ethernet address: 00:0e:0c:6c:b9:0a em1: [FILTER] fwohci0: mem 0xfeb3f000-0xfeb3ffff irq 19 at device 3.0 on pci4 fwohci0: [FILTER] fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 8. fwohci0: EUI64 00:11:d8:00:01:87:6f:c6 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: BUS reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci1: port 0xbc00-0xbc07,0xb880-0xb883,0xb800-0xb807,0xb480-0xb483,0xb400-0xb41f mem 0xfbffe800-0xfbffefff irq 22 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci1: [ITHREAD] atapci1: AHCI Version 01.20 controller with 6 ports detected ata5: on atapci1 ata5: [ITHREAD] ata6: on atapci1 ata6: [ITHREAD] ata7: on atapci1 ata7: [ITHREAD] ata8: on atapci1 ata8: [ITHREAD] ata9: on atapci1 ata9: [ITHREAD] ata10: on atapci1 ata10: [ITHREAD] pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) acpi_button0: on acpi0 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FILTER] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] orm0: at iomem 0xcf000-0xcffff,0xd0000-0xd0fff,0xd1000-0xd3fff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ugen0: on uhub5 ums0: on uhub6 ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) ad10: 476940MB at ata5-master SATA300 ad12: 476940MB at ata6-master SATA300 ad14: 381553MB at ata7-master SATA150 acd0: DVDR at ata9-master SATA150 GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad12s1 is label/video. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad14s1 is label/backup. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad10s1a is label/slash. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad10s1b is label/swap. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad10s1d is label/tmp. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad10s1e is label/var. acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00 acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! cd0 at ata7 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 3.300MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray closed Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/label/slash pciconf: hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x82951043 chip=0x29c08086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '(Bearlake) Processor to I/O Controller' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI pcib1@pci0:0:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x82951043 chip=0x29c18086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '(Bearlake) PCIe Root Port' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI uhci0@pci0:0:26:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29378086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci1@pci0:0:26:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29388086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci2@pci0:0:26:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29398086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB ehci0@pci0:0:26:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x82771043 chip=0x293c8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB pcib2@pci0:0:28:0: class=0x060400 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29408086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) PCIe Root Port 1' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib3@pci0:0:28:4: class=0x060400 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29488086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) PCIe Root Port 5' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI uhci3@pci0:0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29348086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci4@pci0:0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29358086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci5@pci0:0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29368086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB Universal Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB ehci1@pci0:0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x82771043 chip=0x293a8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB pcib4@pci0:0:30:0: class=0x060401 card=0x82771043 chip=0x244e8086 rev=0x92 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801 Family (ICH2/3/4/4/5/5/6/7/8/9,63xxESB) Hub Interface to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI isab0@pci0:0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29168086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IR (ICH9R) LPC Interface Controller' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA atapci1@pci0:0:31:2: class=0x010601 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29228086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) 6 port SATA AHCI Controller' class = mass storage none0@pci0:0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29308086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus vgapci0@pci0:1:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x016310de rev=0xa1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' device = 'GeForce 6200 LE' class = display subclass = VGA atapci0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x010185 card=0x824f1043 chip=0x2363197b rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'JMicron Technology Corp' device = 'JMB36X PCIe-to-SATA-300/IDE RAID Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA em0@pci0:4:1:0: class=0x020000 card=0x11768086 chip=0x10768086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82541EI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' class = network subclass = ethernet em1@pci0:4:2:0: class=0x020000 card=0x11768086 chip=0x10768086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82541EI Gigabit Ethernet Controller' class = network subclass = ethernet fwohci0@pci0:4:3:0: class=0x0c0010 card=0x82941043 chip=0x581111c1 rev=0x70 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Lucent/Agere Systems (Was: AT&T MicroElectronics)' device = 'FW322 1394A PCI PHY/Link Open Host Ctrlr I/F' class = serial bus subclass = FireWire From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 17:11:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDA51065675 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff@degrind.org) Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09278FC16 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff@degrind.org) Received: from collab.my.home (76-191-146-156.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [76.191.146.156]) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m5CGhcIn014530; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:43:38 -0700 Received: from collab.my.home (collab [172.17.0.9]) by collab.my.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D44BB6B6; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:45:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from haas-s300s005.Haas.Berkeley.EDU (haas-s300s005.Haas.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.66.170]) by unknwn.homeip.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:45:47 -0700 Message-ID: <20080612094547.20376ibk4e9ok1wk@unknwn.homeip.net> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:45:47 -0700 From: jeff@degrind.org To: Joey Mingrone References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_6h5w04b3k4g0"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.2-RC2) / FreeBSD-7.0 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sound card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:11:50 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_6h5w04b3k4g0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joey, More than likely snd_ich but best bet is to: kldunload snd_driver kldload snd_ich dmesg if pcm0 doesn't load then: kldload snd_hda Jeff > Hi, > > I'm trying to determine what sound card a notebook has. There are > three relevant dmesg lines below, but looking at freebsd's hardware > notes, I can't tell whether I should use the snd_ich(4) driver for an > Intel ICH4 card, the snd_hda(4) driver for an 82801 card or a sigmatel > card. Any suggestions? > > > %cat /var/run/dmesg.boot| grep pcm > pcm0: port 0xee00-0xeeff,0xe000-0xe03f mem > 0xffaff800-0xffaff9ff,0xffaff400-0xffaff4ff irq 4 at device 31.5 on > pci0 > pcm0: [ITHREAD] > pcm0: > > Thanks, > > Joey > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=_6h5w04b3k4g0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkhRUrsACgkQiIqL94gH2Fmf7QCfQWvU02eMxCqxfdOCQN4nffyU ymMAnR+4l7B1iBXL0IaEmr4JrqI6ff0x =OPvF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_6h5w04b3k4g0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 17:35:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8A4106567C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex.w474@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0708.google.com (wr-out-0708.google.com [64.233.184.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592D08FC1C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex.w474@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 49so6901198wra.3 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:35:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.232.13 with SMTP id e13mr24424anh.3.1213292113535; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:35:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 82.207.118.178 References: <20080604142004.15d83a57@nogrod.nicoelro.net> <20080604083159.cbaafd2c.wmoran@potentialtech.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080404 Firefox/2.0.0.14,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) X-HTTP-Via: 1.1 btr.unisquad.com:6128 (squid/2.5.STABLE14) Message-ID: <76563221-170c-4756-aa26-e16b8c3a7386@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> From: AlexW474 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: use a specific php.ini for php cli X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:35:14 -0000 On Jun 12, 5:24 pm, AlexW474 wrote: > On Jun 4, 3:31 pm, Bill Moran wrote: > > > > > In response to Nicolas Letellier : > > > > Hello. > > > > I would like to know if it is possible to have anotherphp.ini forphp > > > command line? I have aphp.ini with many restrictions (open_basedir, > > > disabled functions, etc...) used byapache(and mod_php). > > > > I would like to user anotherphp.ini file forphpcommand line (I don't > > > want to have disabled functions or safe_mode for command linephp). > > > > I use php5 in the port tree. > > >From 'manphp': > > > --php-ini path|file > > -c path|file Look forphp.ini file in the directory path or use the > > specified file > > You can use this instruction:http://www.witsuite.com/support/knowledge-base/manual-installation/in... > > It clearly shows how to use differentphp.ini forApachePHPandPHP > CLI. > You can even create a few bat files with different environment. BTW, this instruction is for Windows, but the approach is suitable for FreeBSD as well. > > Regards, > Alex > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org mailing listhttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 17:47:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35320106567A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from corellia.vindaloo.com (corellia.vindaloo.com [64.51.148.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D788FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:47:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from kessel.vindaloo.com (kessel.vindaloo.com [172.24.145.71]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corellia.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966295D8C; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:47:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1C4CC81A-1524-43D6-87D2-72EE4306ADF5@vindaloo.com> From: Christopher Sean Hilton To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:47:06 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: Subject: Intel Dual PRO/1000 Nic - Setup of shared code failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:47:11 -0000 I just got an Intel Dual gigabit nic that I planned to use with FreeBSD 7-STABLE. On startup neither of the Nics attach to the kernel. They give up with an error message of: "Setup of shared code failed" I hunted around on Google for this last night and found something about the cards working okay so long as I turned off BSM but I couldn't find any reference to what BSM was or how to turn it off. I'd like to get this card working in my FreeBSD box. Any help would be appreciated. -- Chris Below is the uname -a and startup log from the server. $ uname -a FreeBSD hoth.vindaloo.com 7.0-STABLE FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #2: Wed May 28 16:20:00 EDT 2008 root@hoth:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Here's the logs from the server. Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #2: Wed May 28 16:20:00 EDT 2008 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: root@hoth:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: CPU: AMD Duron(tm) Processor (908.09-MHz 686-class CPU) Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x631 Stepping = 1 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: Features = 0x183f9ff < FPU ,VME ,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR> Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: AMD Features=0xc0440800,MMX +,3DNow!+,3DNow!> Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: real memory = 1073659904 (1023 MB) Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: avail memory = 1037058048 (989 MB) Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: kbd1 at kbdmux0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: acpi0: on motherboard Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: acpi0: [ITHREAD] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: acpi0: reservation of 100000, 3ff00000 (3) failed Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0xe408-0xe40b on acpi0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: cpu0: on acpi0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: acpi_button0: on acpi0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: pci0: on pcib0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: agp0: on hostb0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: agp0: aperture size is 256M Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: pci1: on pcib1 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: vgapci0: port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xfa000000-0xfaffffff,0xf9800000-0xf9800fff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: isa0: on isab0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xb800-0xb80f at device 7.1 on pci0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ata0: on atapci0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ata0: [ITHREAD] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ata1: on atapci0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ata1: [ITHREAD] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhci0: port 0xb400-0xb41f irq 5 at device 7.2 on pci0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhci0: [ITHREAD] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb0: on uhci0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub0: on usb0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhci1: port 0xb000-0xb01f irq 5 at device 7.3 on pci0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhci1: [ITHREAD] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb1: on uhci1 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb1: USB revision 1.0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub1: on usb1 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ohci0: mem 0xf9000000-0xf9000fff irq 5 at device 12.0 on pci0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ohci0: [ITHREAD] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb2: OHCI version 1.0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb2: on ohci0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb2: USB revision 1.0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub2: on usb2 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub2: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ohci1: mem 0xf8800000-0xf8800fff irq 11 at device 12.1 on pci0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ohci1: [ITHREAD] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb3: OHCI version 1.0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb3: on ohci1 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb3: USB revision 1.0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub3: on usb3 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ehci0: mem 0xf8000000-0xf80000ff irq 10 at device 12.2 on pci0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ehci0: [ITHREAD] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb4: EHCI version 1.0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb4: companion controllers, 3 ports each: usb2 usb3 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb4: on ehci0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb4: USB revision 2.0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub4: on usb4 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub4: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: mlx0: port 0x9400-0x947f mem 0xf7800000-0xf780007f irq 11 at device 13.0 on pci0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: mlx0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: mlx0: [ITHREAD] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: mlx0: DAC960PL, 2 channels, firmware 2.73-0-00, 4MB RAM Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: mlxd0: on mlx0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: mlxd0: 26049MB (53348352 sectors) RAID 5 (online) Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ahc0: port 0x9000-0x90ff mem 0xf7000000-0xf7000fff irq 10 at device 14.0 on pci0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ahc0: [ITHREAD] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: aic7870: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: em0: port 0x8800-0x883f irq 7 at device 15.0 on pci0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: em0: Setup of Shared code failed Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: device_attach: em0 attach returned 6 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: em1: port 0x8400-0x843f irq 5 at device 15.1 on pci0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: em1: Setup of Shared code failed Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: device_attach: em1 attach returned 6 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: fdc0: port 0x3f2-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: fdc0: [FILTER] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: sio0: type 16550A Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: sio0: [FILTER] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: sio1: type 16550A Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: sio1: [FILTER] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: kbd0 at atkbd0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: atkbd0: [ITHREAD] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: psm0: [ITHREAD] Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: pmtimer0 on isa0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xc87ff,0xcc000-0xcc7ff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ppc0: parallel port not found. Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: Timecounter "TSC" frequency 908091823 Hz quality 800 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ad0: 38166MB at ata0-master UDMA100 Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a Chris Hilton tildeChris -- http://myblog.vindaloo.com email -- chris/at/vindaloo/ dot/com .~ ~ .--.~ ~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~. "I'm on the outside looking inside, What do I see? Much confusion, disillution, all around me." -- Ian McDonald / Peter Sinfield From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 17:55:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8651065676 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from corellia.vindaloo.com (corellia.vindaloo.com [64.51.148.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051168FC19 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from kessel.vindaloo.com (kessel.vindaloo.com [172.24.145.71]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corellia.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BD95D8C; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:55:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <95CB53AC-6393-4B47-AA4D-976011EFC6B8@vindaloo.com> From: Christopher Sean Hilton To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:55:35 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: Subject: Asus A7V-E and ACPI. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:55:37 -0000 I'm running a Fileserver on a now ancient Asus A7V-E box. Until last week this box ran FreeBSD 6.2 and it worked okay. Now it runs 7.0- STABLE. Before last night I had a pair of PCI Dec Tulip Nics in it. I've since replaced that with a Dual Intel Pro/100 (yes, 100, not 1000 if you saw my other post). My problem is with ACPI. When I boot the box with ACPI enabled it cannot allocate all the resources needed for both tulip nics. When I boot the box without ACPI, it can allocate the resources to make everything work but I cannot reboot or shutdown the box. I'd like some suggestions about how I can either tune the box so that the shutdown commands work right with ACPI enabled. I'd accept some suggestions about how to get the box to properly allocate resources with ACPI disabled. Currently the box works because I've reduced the resources by using a Dual Nic but if the time comes that I have to add some other resources I'd like to have some options. -- Chris Chris Hilton tildeChris -- http://myblog.vindaloo.com email -- chris/at/vindaloo/ dot/com .~ ~ .--.~ ~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~. "I'm on the outside looking inside, What do I see? Much confusion, disillution, all around me." -- Ian McDonald / Peter Sinfield From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 18:14:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578321065672 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:14:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from forrie.com (demon.dce.harvard.edu [140.247.198.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCDF8FC17 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) X-Envelope-From: forrie@forrie.com X-Envelope-To: X-Originating-IP: 140.247.198.51 Received: from dhcp-103-0-47.de-dhcp.harvard.edu (dce-gw.harvard.edu [140.247.198.51]) (authenticated as=forrie@forrie.com bits=0) by forrie.com (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5CHopc5061531 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:50:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <485161FB.2090806@forrie.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:50:51 -0400 From: Forrest Aldrich User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.15pre (Macintosh/20080612) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/7451/Thu Jun 12 09:28:58 2008 on mail.forrie.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: ZFS mount points X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:14:18 -0000 What precautions could I take to prevent users from writing to a portion of a ZFS mount point that might fill up the underlying filesystem that wouldn't impede writes to that ZFS mount point. For example: /foo/bar/volume If some program accidentally started writing to /foo/bar, as far as I understand, it would end up filling / and not the zpool. I could re-do this so that /zpool1 was /foo to mitigate this - though I've already established production mounts pointing to /foo/bar/volume (which is actually zpool1/volume). Would changing zpool1 to /dce create havoc, since I'm NFS exporting /foo/bar/volume. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 18:35:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814DD106566B for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781678FC0C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5CIZ29F029663; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:35:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5CIZ1Rp029660; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:35:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:35:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jeffrey Goldberg In-Reply-To: <62860DF8-423D-48B3-9757-CC3D24732CF0@goldmark.org> Message-ID: <20080612203258.I29647@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200806112225.36221.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> <20080611214743.GA18371@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <200806121519.12820.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> <62860DF8-423D-48B3-9757-CC3D24732CF0@goldmark.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Roland Smith , David Naylor , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:35:09 -0000 > > But it is far from moot if you are interested in the actual threat against > your system. In a sense, using a less popular OS is a form of "security by > obscurity" which is not to be heavily relied on, but still it does make a > real, practical, difference in the case that you described. FreeBSD is "unfortunately" quite popular OS, but yes - much less popular than linux, not to mention windoze. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 18:38:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2341065687 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:38:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACC68FC24 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:38:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so934773ana.13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:38:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=qaUi3teMpr+P1sc03sqt1CrzNC1NyEzopHh15aKsr4Q=; b=WNCE8ArMhklEyr1OcXJD4MiJBikSM7J6V/wZKwRoAuUBKqPc8xFfFEaoKoH4LL9cxA oUwVg1AOf9/kozZAaTWc4Y+SxGz1VeVpN6s5l+K5BIhPOcSQcvyXMOr7bCvtkR73Vb8f adyzTdwsmCE6RL48yMYB6hReJ8Lji7OrcI4gU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=c2/91cq+JNEysodgpUGOliSWwQxxdhz8KkKFdkP02ld+MP6a1GVVRJpFXaTkFQhMaV VCYolbO6WVqmDe4TT6ddHubtHjt4x4jnoBEBvKDUI8j/7sDHudWeM1fK1F282hhzyK8/ JJwDrHMoRYqL6TWDesf6/16IBYT7j4kLywN+o= Received: by 10.100.152.15 with SMTP id z15mr2547672and.138.1213295886767; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.13.7 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3b47caa90806121138ncc284edj94af1a58059304f4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:38:06 -0500 From: Novembre To: "Tore Lund" In-Reply-To: <484D1B1C.9020909@next.online.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3b47caa90806082022g65e88d97q3fa3d99d3b790ddc@mail.gmail.com> <484D1B1C.9020909@next.online.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:38:08 -0000 On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Tore Lund wrote: > Novembre wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not > > subscribed to the list and does not receive them in his mailbox? From > time > > to time, I see posts which I can actually answer and contribute to, but > > since I'm not subscribed to the lists, even if I post an answer to the > > person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with > > other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this? > > Besides what Randy wrote, several mailing lists are mirrored to > newsgroups. I subscribe to muc.lists.freebsd.questions, even though I > am subscribed to the list. (I prefer not to receive all that stuff as > e-mail.) When answering a post, I have to edit the addresses, but my > answer is then threaded properly. > -- > Tore > > I'm sorry, but I didn't quite get it. Do you mean that if I subscribe to the newsgroup which mirrors the list, and if I answer the question in the newsgroup, then it will be shown properly in the freebsd mailing lists as well? I mean, is the mirroring one way or both-ways? Thanks :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 18:39:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B3B106566C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3568FC1B for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from novembre@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so934878ana.13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:39:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=maI7hguMKKu5VH7yYFCKBdsIXhz7Sje95GL6i3fAPyI=; b=RUfvSyseGmqS7wJ/h7JwcbceNN5wgh826Ts6QsFK5z34Zh8hYD0qrWIbltjH6GWnjG aNRQGgH/1MXnEf062kvZ2RqLwce9qaFg2Eh+YQYo2sL3k+Wu9UFT9u1VXstkwWsbM42f juLxb8YuMokiouvYxSbVQeUytWSpG+3CR7qec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Wjwy8cX52X/9h8rBTyV3nZJO71rQlVngJvvUkV4eZOzBLtL1duV6xZ/LnGhnlGNOhV I9gDPgl5kwAT6JUiqp2HMm2NWoCXzgOUzb4jlDNBbJdStA2Fe5IY0uH7O4HmulD61Hoo SVGy1YgvnY7pgSESFwtDEufTkLcsb4bP+GsY0= Received: by 10.100.194.5 with SMTP id r5mr2659104anf.2.1213295946169; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.13.7 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3b47caa90806121139n76981b47uef6d710e82ea834d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:39:06 -0500 From: Novembre To: "Andrew Berry" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3b47caa90806082022g65e88d97q3fa3d99d3b790ddc@mail.gmail.com> <20080609064047.b74f4b95.bsd-unix@embarqmail.com> <3b47caa90806092110o4f409778u29aa15be92c0959e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Randy Pratt , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:39:07 -0000 On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Andrew Berry wrote: > On 10-Jun-08, at 12:10 AM, Novembre wrote: > > So to be more specific, how can I answer to a post from a mailing list >> from >> within my, e.g., GMail or Yahoo! mailboxes? >> > > You might be able to use telnet to open a connection to Google's SMTP > servers, and paste the entire message, headers included, into the > transmission. You'd have to know how to manually use SMTP and hope that > Google accepts email from your machine. You could also look into writing a > script in (Perl or Python would be good) to allow you to do it yourself, so > you would have control over most of the headers. > > --Andrew I tried to telnet to smtp.gmail.com, but it didn't work. Is that what you meant? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 19:12:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF20106567E for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:12:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from mail44.e.nsc.no (mail44.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454868FC13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:12:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tl32@next.online.no) Received: from [62.16.187.250] (062016187250.customer.alfanett.no [62.16.187.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail44.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m5CJC8g8024441; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:12:08 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <4851751E.9020900@next.online.no> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:12:30 +0200 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080229) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Novembre , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3b47caa90806082022g65e88d97q3fa3d99d3b790ddc@mail.gmail.com> <484D1B1C.9020909@next.online.no> <3b47caa90806121138ncc284edj94af1a58059304f4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3b47caa90806121138ncc284edj94af1a58059304f4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:12:11 -0000 Novembre wrote: > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Tore Lund wrote: > >> Novembre wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not >>> subscribed to the list and does not receive them in his mailbox? From >> time >>> to time, I see posts which I can actually answer and contribute to, but >>> since I'm not subscribed to the lists, even if I post an answer to the >>> person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with >>> other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this? >> Besides what Randy wrote, several mailing lists are mirrored to >> newsgroups. I subscribe to muc.lists.freebsd.questions, even though I >> am subscribed to the list. (I prefer not to receive all that stuff as >> e-mail.) When answering a post, I have to edit the addresses, but my >> answer is then threaded properly. >> -- >> Tore > > I'm sorry, but I didn't quite get it. Do you mean that if I subscribe to the > newsgroup which mirrors the list, and if I answer the question in the > newsgroup, then it will be shown properly in the freebsd mailing lists as > well? I mean, is the mirroring one way or both-ways? The mirroring is one-way only. What I do in Thunderbird is to hit "Reply to All", delete the address lines beginning with "muc*" and add the address line "To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org". I believe you said you were using a browser, so I don't know if what I describe can be done through some web site. But it works fine for me in Thunderbird, and it will probably work fine in any other newsreader. -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 19:17:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540F91065676 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:17:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [206.29.77.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E136D8FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9B95DCD7D; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:17:27 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8cc6yHVYZxcV; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:17:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from janus.daycos.com (janus.daycos.com [10.45.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C02595DCD79; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:17:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: Chuck Swiger Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:17:13 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <200806051508.29424.kirk@strauser.com> <200806111442.50935.kirk@strauser.com> In-Reply-To: X-Face: T+/_{qmjgbosI0J/e83I~w[&VF'w)!((xEpj///^bA/6?jHHS?nq+T8_+`nh"WnEWCWG, \}]Y2$)) =?utf-8?q?vLVz4ACChrEcb=7DCO=5EtYmMG=5C=0A=09ts=2Em=3F=5B7=5B6OwE*dAJ*9f+m?= =?utf-8?q?X=2E7R32qeN=5EDJ=5C?=(k@evW?IRQCy.^ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1980172.0YNeN6mcng"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200806121417.19885.kirk@strauser.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Poor read() performance, and I can't profile it X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:17:58 -0000 --nextPart1980172.0YNeN6mcng Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Chuck Swiger wrote: > If your data files are small enough to fit into 2GB of address space, > try using mmap() and then treat the file(s) as an array of records or > memoblocks or whatever, and let the VM system deal with paging in the > parts of the file you need. Otherwise, don't fread() 1 record at a > time, read in at least a (VM page / sizeof(record)) number of records > at a time into a bigger buffer, and then process that in RAM rather > than trying to fseek in little increments. During a marathon session last night, I did just that. I changed the seque= ntial reads=20 in the "outer" file to fread many records at a time. Then I switched to mm= ap() for the=20 random-access file. The results were much better, with good CPU usage and = only 3 times=20 the wall clock runtime: kirk@linux$ date; time /tmp/cdbf /tmp/invoice.dbf >/dev/null; date Thu Jun 12 13:56:49 CDT 2008 /tmp/cdbf /tmp/invoice.dbf > /dev/null 29.00s user 11.16s system 56% cpu 1= :11.03 total Thu Jun 12 13:58:00 CDT 2008 kirk@freebsd$ date; time /tmp/cdbf ~pgsql/data/frodumps/xbase/invoice.dbf i= nvid ln=20 >/dev/null; date Thu Jun 12 14:10:57 CDT 2008 /tmp/cdbf ~pgsql/data/frodumps/xbase/invoice.dbf invid ln > /dev/null 38.1= 4s user=20 6.21s system 23% cpu 3:05.13 total Thu Jun 12 14:14:02 CDT 2008 > Also, if you're malloc'ing and freeing buf & memohead with every > iteration of the loop, you're just thrashing the malloc system; > instead, allocate your buffers once before the loop, and reuse them > (zeroize or copy new data over the previous results) instead. Also done. I'd gotten some technical advice from Slashdot (which speaks vo= lumes for my=20 clueless, granted) that made it sound like a good idea. I changed almost a= ll the=20 mallocs into static buffers. I'm still offering that shell account to anyone who wants to take a peek. = :-) =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart1980172.0YNeN6mcng Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQBIUXY/5sRg+Y0CpvERApN7AKCjZoI0xJfFgu5pgtB1/krlk1Wy4ACgh8y5 yJdN8YZSUQe9pOAZklxN2rE= =Lwrt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1980172.0YNeN6mcng-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 19:34:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BB41065675 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [64.7.153.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C168FC13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smtp2.sentex.ca (smtp2c.sentex.ca [64.7.153.30]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5CJYA5w072393; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:34:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.0.137] (p16xhjil1bpqp-d4-dyn.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca [67.43.138.17]) by smtp2.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5CJY9tk061606; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:34:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Message-ID: <48517A2F.2020208@sentex.net> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:34:07 -0400 From: Andrew Berry User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Novembre References: <3b47caa90806082022g65e88d97q3fa3d99d3b790ddc@mail.gmail.com> <20080609064047.b74f4b95.bsd-unix@embarqmail.com> <3b47caa90806092110o4f409778u29aa15be92c0959e@mail.gmail.com> <3b47caa90806121139n76981b47uef6d710e82ea834d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3b47caa90806121139n76981b47uef6d710e82ea834d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms060001000607010809060906" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/7040/Mon May 5 21:52:15 2008 clamav-milter version 0.93 on clamscanner2 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 64.7.153.18 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:34:12 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms060001000607010809060906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Novembre wrote: > I tried to telnet to smtp.gmail.com, but it didn't work. Is that what you > meant? Pretty much. The problem you're having is caused partially by being unable to manually set headers in many mail clients. If you have a server with Sendmail set up which can send outbound email you might be able to do it that way as well, by copying the message from the web and then sending the whole text instead of just the body. --Andrew --------------ms060001000607010809060906 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIMjjCC BkMwggUroAMCAQICEQC38LypwNnyJwW+s72BPxr8MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMIGuMQswCQYD VQQGEwJVUzELMAkGA1UECBMCVVQxFzAVBgNVBAcTDlNhbHQgTGFrZSBDaXR5MR4wHAYDVQQK ExVUaGUgVVNFUlRSVVNUIE5ldHdvcmsxITAfBgNVBAsTGGh0dHA6Ly93d3cudXNlcnRydXN0 LmNvbTE2MDQGA1UEAxMtVVROLVVTRVJGaXJzdC1DbGllbnQgQXV0aGVudGljYXRpb24gYW5k IEVtYWlsMB4XDTA3MTEwMjAwMDAwMFoXDTA4MTEwMTIzNTk1OVowgd4xNTAzBgNVBAsTLENv bW9kbyBUcnVzdCBOZXR3b3JrIC0gUEVSU09OQSBOT1QgVkFMSURBVEVEMUYwRAYDVQQLEz1U 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+0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94218FC17 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:51:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5CJc7Go091354 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:38:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <48517B1E.5090905@tundraware.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:38:06 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: m5CJc7Go091354 X-tundraware.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Rsync From FreeBSD To Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:51:17 -0000 I have an smbfs share that mounts at boot time on a 6.3-STABLE system. I want to rsync from a FreeBSD directory to the Windows share. For reasons I seem to not be able to discover, rsync insists on copying every file, every time. The exact command is: rsync -va /FreeBSD-dir-tree /windows-mount I have tried -O -no-p without success. I'm guessing this is a problem mapping the filesystem semantics from FreeBSD to SMB so that rsync always thinks the files on the destination SMB share are out of date, but I cannot seem to find the right magic to overcome this. Ideas? (And TIA), -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 20:03:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D3D106567D for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:03:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D13B8FC16 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:03:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5CK38O6092286 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:03:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <485180FA.4060800@tundraware.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:03:06 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <48517B1E.5090905@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <48517B1E.5090905@tundraware.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: m5CK38O6092286 X-tundraware.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Rsync From FreeBSD To Windows X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:03:14 -0000 Tim Daneliuk wrote: > I have an smbfs share that mounts at boot time on a 6.3-STABLE system. > I want to rsync from a FreeBSD directory to the Windows share. For > reasons I seem to not be able to discover, rsync insists on copying > every file, every time. The exact command is: > > rsync -va /FreeBSD-dir-tree /windows-mount > > I have tried -O -no-p without success. > > I'm guessing this is a problem mapping the filesystem semantics from > FreeBSD to SMB so that rsync always thinks the files on the > destination SMB share are out of date, but I cannot seem to find the > right magic to overcome this. > > > Ideas? (And TIA), Inevitably, as soon as I posted this, I finally discovered the problem, which is worth describing here to save other people the same suffering: 1) The problem occurs when the SMB mount is a FAT formatted drive. In this case, it was a USB drive plugged into the WinXP machine being used as removable backup medium. 2) The problem occurs because the FAT file entry has insufficient resolution to maintain exactly the same timestamp as FreeBSD. i.e., FreeBSD (and I presume Linux or other Unix variants) have a finer timestamp resolution than does FAT. 3) The fix is to tell rsync to not be so fussy about exact timestamp matches: rsync -va --modify-window=1 src dest 4) This assumes that the FreeBSD server and the Windows machine hosting the share are more-or-less synchronized to the correct absolute time. If they are not, the --modify-window= parameter may have to be larger to accommodate the difference in what each machine thinks the "correct time" is. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 20:03:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A849510656C3 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:03:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D1E8FC18 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:03:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Jun 2008 16:03:17 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id KAD04516; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:03:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Jun 2008 16:03:12 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18513.33023.792318.227404@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:03:11 -0400 To: Christopher Sean Hilton In-Reply-To: <1C4CC81A-1524-43D6-87D2-72EE4306ADF5@vindaloo.com> References: <1C4CC81A-1524-43D6-87D2-72EE4306ADF5@vindaloo.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Intel Dual PRO/1000 Nic - Setup of shared code failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:03:18 -0000 Christopher Sean Hilton writes: > I just got an Intel Dual gigabit nic that I planned to use with > FreeBSD 7-STABLE. I'm using this on FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Apr 19 23:17:00 EDT 2008 i386 with no problems. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 20:21:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7577106566B for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:21:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [206.29.77.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3B98FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:21:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5D85DDE61 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:21:24 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id asVyezVKmY86 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:21:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from janus.daycos.com (janus.daycos.com [10.45.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B11A05DCD39 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:21:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:21:14 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 X-Face: T+/_{qmjgbosI0J/e83I~w[&VF'w)!((xEpj///^bA/6?jHHS?nq+T8_+`nh"WnEWCWG, \}]Y2$)) =?utf-8?q?vLVz4ACChrEcb=7DCO=5EtYmMG=5C=0A=09ts=2Em=3F=5B7=5B6OwE*dAJ*9f+m?= =?utf-8?q?X=2E7R32qeN=5EDJ=5C?=(k@evW?IRQCy.^ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart71378040.N85AOK1Nk4"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200806121521.16237.kirk@strauser.com> Subject: Stripe sizes with gstripe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:21:55 -0000 --nextPart71378040.N85AOK1Nk4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Does gstripe read an entire stripe at a time? If so, why do that instead o= f=20 just reading a few requested blocks? 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( [196.34.241.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f78sm7811619pyh.34.2008.06.12.13.28.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:28:49 -0700 (PDT) From: David Naylor Organization: Private To: Jeffrey Goldberg Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:24:13 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200806112225.36221.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> <200806121519.12820.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> <62860DF8-423D-48B3-9757-CC3D24732CF0@goldmark.org> In-Reply-To: <62860DF8-423D-48B3-9757-CC3D24732CF0@goldmark.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart6191335.KVvtVEzS8j"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200806122224.19147.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:28:55 -0000 --nextPart6191335.KVvtVEzS8j Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 12 June 2008 18:43:40 you wrote: > On Jun 12, 2008, at 8:19 AM, David Naylor wrote: > > I think this argument is rather mute, just because there are no > > programs > > exploiting security vulnerabilities does not been there are not > > vulnerabilities, > > But it is far from moot if you are interested in the actual threat > against your system. In a sense, using a less popular OS is a form of > "security by obscurity" which is not to be heavily relied on, but > still it does make a real, practical, difference in the case that you > described. Very true, however having a large scale usage of FreeBSD (for example, if a= =20 government were to adopt it) would bring pressure to bare. For anything bu= t=20 such a large scale adoption in the medium to long term then it is a=20 valuable 'asset'. =20 > > and a determined cracker would create his own program. > > You have not articulated what you are trying to defend against. Do > you anticipate determined crackers going after your particular system > and what resources will such attackers have? We can't talk about a > system being "secure" in general, but the question needs to be framed > in terms of "secure against what". This is a general enquiry. What had sparked my interest in this subject is= =20 the above mentioned article. In this case it is a workstation used to acce= ss=20 and manage account and cash flows. The threat would be anyone gaining acce= ss=20 to 'divert' funds to incorrect accounts, for obvious personal gains. =20 Specifically, the two threats would be remote attach (such as spyware being= =20 deployed, or gaining remote access) or physical access (in which case keepi= ng=20 the username and password safe will be the only option? Assuming their is = no=20 compromise on the human side) > > That said I hope there are, actually, no vulnerabilities. > > That is demanding too much. What you need to hope for is a > combination of "no known unpatched vulnerabilities at the moment" and > more importantly "procedures and practices to keep things that way". > As Bruce Schneier likes to say, "Security is not a product but a > process". The vast majority of actual system compromises involve > failure of system administrators to keep systems patched and follow > good security practices. Good point! Thank goodness for automatic signed incremental updates (that= =20 actually work) Leason: always keep your system up-to-date! (With security patches) > One reason that I switched from Linux to FreeBSD is that I find it > much easier to maintain FreeBSD, particularly in terms of security > updates. I have been responsible for Linux machines that did get > rooted because I was having problems keeping them up-to-date for a > variety of reasons. > > > [Security through obscurity is just an illusion] > > In your post you mentioned concern about spyware. It is not an > illusion that FreeBSD has not been targeted by spyware writers while > Windows has. Even if some of that is the consequence of security by > obscurity, it is no illusion. Of course we need to understand that > those security benefits from obscurity are fragile, but we shouldn't > dismiss it entirely. Point taken. =20 > Again, what sorts of benefits such things may add (or subtract) > depends on the nature of the attacker. Thank you for your feedback David --nextPart6191335.KVvtVEzS8j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBIUYXyUaaFgP9pFrIRAhgfAJ40fvuzNTjhYSz50Fq0JidYrWyIiQCfSVES 3W08V64vEIiCONwsa61Hg+0= =2DPo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart6191335.KVvtVEzS8j-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 20:32:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681F51065674 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:32:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212138FC21 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:32:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5CKWYY4062147 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:32:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200806122032.m5CKWYY4062147@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:32:34 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Upgrading a System from Freebsd6.2 to 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:32:35 -0000 Can I upgrade a system from 6.2 to 6.3 by changing the *default tag=RELENG_6_2 line in my cvs-supfile to *default tag=RELENG_6_3 Then, I just do the usual remaking of the world and kernel. I don't know if I missed it, but I did not even find the word 'upgrade' in the handbook table of contents. I have a string of 6.2 systems that need to be 6.3 and can't be down for much more than the reboot time. #*default tag=. *default tag=RELENG_6_2 *default host=cvsup15.us.freebsd.org *default prefix=/usr *default base=/var/db *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix src-all Thsnks. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 20:35:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A703106567F for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from corellia.vindaloo.com (corellia.vindaloo.com [64.51.148.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BEFF8FC21 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from kessel.vindaloo.com (kessel.vindaloo.com [172.24.145.71]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corellia.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9325CEE; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1B73754D-9642-4724-9F3D-8E4019136421@vindaloo.com> From: Christopher Sean Hilton To: Robert Huff , FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <18513.33023.792318.227404@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:35:23 -0400 References: <1C4CC81A-1524-43D6-87D2-72EE4306ADF5@vindaloo.com> <18513.33023.792318.227404@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: Subject: Re: Intel Dual PRO/1000 Nic - Setup of shared code failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:35:27 -0000 On Jun 12, 2008, at 4:03 PM, Robert Huff wrote: > > Christopher Sean Hilton writes: >> I just got an Intel Dual gigabit nic that I planned to use with >> FreeBSD 7-STABLE. > > I'm using this on > > FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Apr 19 23:17:00 EDT 2008 i386 > > > with no problems. > Sounds cool. I had one going in an older laptop as early as 5.x-STABLE I'm pretty sure it's strongly supported by FreeBSD. Did you have to do anything special to get it going? -- Chris Chris Hilton tildeChris -- http://myblog.vindaloo.com email -- chris/at/vindaloo/ dot/com .~ ~ .--.~ ~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~.--.~~. "I'm on the outside looking inside, What do I see? Much confusion, disillution, all around me." -- Ian McDonald / Peter Sinfield From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 20:43:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32B11065678 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1928FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Jun 2008 16:43:16 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id OTI69592; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:43:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Jun 2008 16:43:09 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18513.35422.743692.625387@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:43:10 -0400 To: Christopher Sean Hilton In-Reply-To: <1B73754D-9642-4724-9F3D-8E4019136421@vindaloo.com> References: <1C4CC81A-1524-43D6-87D2-72EE4306ADF5@vindaloo.com> <18513.33023.792318.227404@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1B73754D-9642-4724-9F3D-8E4019136421@vindaloo.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Robert Huff , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Intel Dual PRO/1000 Nic - Setup of shared code failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:43:16 -0000 Christopher Sean Hilton writes: > >> I just got an Intel Dual gigabit nic that I planned to use with > >> FreeBSD 7-STABLE. > > > > I'm using this on > > > > FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Apr 19 23:17:00 EDT 2008 i386 > > > > > > with no problems. > > Sounds cool. I had one going in an older laptop as early as 5.x-STABLE > I'm pretty sure it's strongly supported by FreeBSD. Actually, the code is cotributed/maintained by Intel. > Did you have to do anything special to get it going? huff@>> more /boot/loader.conf | grep _em if_em_load="YES" Your mileage may vary. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 20:51:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3E6106566C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whitelist.augustin@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com (hu-out-0506.google.com [72.14.214.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42F88FC17 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whitelist.augustin@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 34so5780000hue.8 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:51:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=+j7zhUmNijNhT1Xdyes+zJxdm0fIpFjYOT4/TPrb2v0=; b=ZAgwoEplbOORsMQFe9XFMy18+SoUntQCkQ1AEIYa6/aI79yBzXPwPA4ByVF3oO0GPe vroCjEc4XQ6nHLhGPAqKw8Zor2pDNdiZvpGHQt8aBDLRKQKQf+9o0MpnKMsw7hL+dVYt KZPrCznRWoLT87WTBmvbLsSA/BWiEuDgxvh+E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=RVU4N9kKQFHlFwsSvxnuopAHGAa3GWEBjSFEXr2OBQZw+CHs4d+7pF5oO0W5CHZRL6 jY2ATJIHQUPIvrCGdENvVcPfIzwxMjqho+JyrGrnQ/kdSzH0bdxP1BtzozGVmBHFSnWP Jq3FUnftByEK161iiszGhgaEzjIiZk1MEo1gk= Received: by 10.125.102.19 with SMTP id e19mr122671mkm.61.1213302991283; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.125.47.13 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:36:30 -0700 From: "white list" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Samba & FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:51:49 -0000 hope to be in the right place, I'm seeking help join a FreeBSD 6.2 machine to a ADS Windows 2008. when I execute "net ads join -U Administrator" I get a "/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib/libkrb5.so.8: Undefined symbol "init_error_table" error message. [global] dos charset = cp866 unix charset = koi8-r display charset = koi8-r workgroup = LAB realm = LAB.NET server string = SambaServer security = ADS password server = SAFAD.LAB.NET log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m max log size = 50 socket options = SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 logon script = %U.bat logon path = \\%L\Profiles\%U os level = 33 preferred master = No local master = No domain master = No dns proxy = No wins server = safad.lab.net idmap uid = 600-20000 winbind separator = / winbind enum users = Yes winbind enum groups = Yes winbind use default domain = Yes inherit acls = Yes map acl inherit = Yes map archive = No store dos attributes = Yes this is my global configuration, Thanks, Augustin, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 20:54:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0862106568D for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:54:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [206.29.77.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BF68FC22 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:54:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE985DDE9E for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:54:04 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bKyD-y0+WkaB for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:54:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from janus.daycos.com (janus.daycos.com [10.45.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 535F55DDE61 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:54:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:53:59 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <200806122032.m5CKWYY4062147@dc.cis.okstate.edu> In-Reply-To: <200806122032.m5CKWYY4062147@dc.cis.okstate.edu> X-Face: T+/_{qmjgbosI0J/e83I~w[&VF'w)!((xEpj///^bA/6?jHHS?nq+T8_+`nh"WnEWCWG, \}]Y2$)) =?utf-8?q?vLVz4ACChrEcb=7DCO=5EtYmMG=5C=0A=09ts=2Em=3F=5B7=5B6OwE*dAJ*9f+m?= =?utf-8?q?X=2E7R32qeN=5EDJ=5C?=(k@evW?IRQCy.^ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1859702.0ekLIYMHZs"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200806121554.00091.kirk@strauser.com> Subject: Re: Upgrading a System from Freebsd6.2 to 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:54:35 -0000 --nextPart1859702.0ekLIYMHZs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 12 June 2008, Martin McCormick wrote: > Can I upgrade a system from 6.2 to 6.3 by changing the > > *default tag=3DRELENG_6_2 > line in my cvs-supfile to > *default tag=3DRELENG_6_3 > > Then, I just do the usual remaking of the world and > kernel. Yep! Be sure to check in /usr/src/UPDATING to see if there are any special= =20 gotchas. =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart1859702.0ekLIYMHZs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQBIUYzo5sRg+Y0CpvERApLXAJ94q4cHEXbxceYKJF+3UU3GMpgAVwCgmymd vvL0TA4oenVGCuszidt9N04= =6325 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1859702.0ekLIYMHZs-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 21:01:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EACE1065781 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:01:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474E38FC26 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5CL0ri8049444; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:00:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080612155948.033a9fa0@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:00:45 -0500 To: "white list" , questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/6806/Wed Apr 16 15:50:16 2008 on betty.computinginnovations.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: m5CL0ri8049444 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Samba & FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:01:04 -0000 At 03:36 PM 6/12/2008, white list wrote: >hope to be in the right place, I'm seeking help join a FreeBSD 6.2 machine >to a ADS Windows 2008. >when I execute "net ads join -U Administrator" I get a >"/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib/libkrb5.so.8: Undefined symbol >"init_error_table" error message. > >[global] > dos charset = cp866 > unix charset = koi8-r > display charset = koi8-r > workgroup = LAB > realm = LAB.NET > server string = SambaServer > security = ADS > password server = SAFAD.LAB.NET > log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m > max log size = 50 > socket options = SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 > logon script = %U.bat > logon path = \\%L\Profiles\%U > os level = 33 > preferred master = No > local master = No > domain master = No > dns proxy = No > wins server = safad.lab.net > idmap uid = 600-20000 > winbind separator = / > winbind enum users = Yes > winbind enum groups = Yes > winbind use default domain = Yes > inherit acls = Yes > map acl inherit = Yes > map archive = No > store dos attributes = Yes > >this is my global configuration, >Thanks, >Augustin, >_________ I believe this is an upgraded FreeBSD system, You need to rebuild samba so it is linked to the correct libraries. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 21:29:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAA31065670 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:29:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2BB8FC0C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so3109480fgb.35 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:29:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=VBYAdzUHNnw9dJj8I0Xc79WqvJ/1uislnL41IFabCQo=; b=J24lfACc/nm1DqWdK+QkcZDkwNvpMUypDqeLPooM5vDpimAM5YoWXuZ80XIklimNWK OcuSvhDz8SVEkyA6REbqI7uqNaEfw+3J58ASDQaL/FNVgT5lTsNWqVC5c7qtBwFX6XvI KXHyKUtTnFtMaCNQgHJOQgskGLfRNkloICY58= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=c48UCFp3p95iMobOfGR4YGBH9aDBZn/rW7yJhdmAPSvXUjpc1OK41KzVu2ibF94Pea JhqLNhEnxfuJXLiHv2F6srRlVJXjeSe+demOVtoH3cZuQxJpqsOZikscXrJX00/Iz3f5 4o6Ru2W2iuoywyVKUtSIFL476LiduzZG+xrPQ= Received: by 10.86.28.2 with SMTP id b2mr3012024fgb.10.1213305709675; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.76.17 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <560f92640806121421h3f0cefd8x64ba428480675409@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:21:49 -0700 From: "Nerius Landys" To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <560f92640806121417v792f1134medc75be8a164da16@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <560f92640806121417v792f1134medc75be8a164da16@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: multiple ntpd processes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:29:10 -0000 In addition, here are the contents of my /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org server 1.us.pool.ntp.org server 2.us.pool.ntp.org server 3.us.pool.ntp.org restrict default kod nomodify notrap nopeer noquery I'm running FreeBSD 7.0, and I have 'ntpd_enable="YES"' in my /etc/rc.conf. > Every time I reboot my server, I get two ntpd processes: > > nlandys@daffy# ps -U root | grep ntpd > PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND > 571 ?? Ss 0:00.12 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p > /var/run/ntpd.pid > 686 ?? S 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p > /var/run/ntpd.pid > > When I run '/etc/rc.d/ntpd stop' it kills the first process in the output > above but leaves the second one. I must manually kill this second process > and then run '/etc/rc.d/ntpd start' to get ntpd to function normally, > otherwise [while there are 2 processes running] ntpd does not seem to keep > the clock in sync. Please help. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 21:44:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF1B106566B for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:44:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1510C8FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:44:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so3113505fgb.35 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:44:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=5vWqxX1mcXB0vQaNYwgsySTueLsnw4llyT/isEVlFgs=; b=Wqsrs9sqxjK1dyjNkezjVtt/vuNRohHDs1LhjWs9ewWdQ7suYg2cZCm0sY1Mv/D7Ax thdqYB9pUUBP6IBA3PUXHgodzf3AW65F0Jtq8+K/5Qs+yb88dYfpcQxsQAWH7p8MY0XZ 9cA71xqQhny7gV5VSq1auzEDbYqwPFpAqr0Xk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=LPl4NrUyl3vvZJvxFUy1tntOTmvQhyFSD7vx02QpGzwXBTFKnf1UNnW5SVLzUyYpJA WMLIwb2VycHJSHKlT1iCE4a76ePHh8d/Kiaf9KJOpFRvizWHjkbGwJdi8gfO6oD/rAxa Vd4o5OuER0GOTFp0eoYu1DESnZ7hRxwBvvVis= Received: by 10.86.63.19 with SMTP id l19mr2941091fga.77.1213305466182; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.76.17 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <560f92640806121417v792f1134medc75be8a164da16@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:17:46 -0700 From: "Nerius Landys" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: multiple ntpd processes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:44:02 -0000 I'm running FreeBSD 7.0, and I have 'ntpd_enable="YES"' in my /etc/rc.conf. Every time I reboot my server, I get two ntpd processes: nlandys@daffy# ps -U root | grep ntpd PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 571 ?? Ss 0:00.12 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid 686 ?? S 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid When I run '/etc/rc.d/ntpd stop' it kills the first process in the output above but leaves the second one. I must manually kill this second process and then run '/etc/rc.d/ntpd start' to get ntpd to function normally, otherwise [while there are 2 processes running] ntpd does not seem to keep the clock in sync. Please help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 21:56:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495381065674 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:56:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joey@mingrone.org) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3E78FC13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:56:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joey@mingrone.org) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1923073ywe.13 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.217.14 with SMTP id p14mr3133573ybg.53.1213307810142; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.78.9 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:56:50 -0300 From: "Joey Mingrone" To: jeff@degrind.org, mail@ozzmosis.com, peter@boosten.org, eslie@eskk.nu In-Reply-To: <20080612094547.20376ibk4e9ok1wk@unknwn.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080612094547.20376ibk4e9ok1wk@unknwn.homeip.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sound card X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:56:55 -0000 Thank you all for your replies. It was snd_ich. And sorry for the double post to the list. Despite having the list option "Receive your own posts to the list" set, it seems when I send messages to list@freebsd.org I don't get my own copy. I reread the mailing list info on the freebsd.org page and it said to send messages to freebsd-list@freebsd.org so I thought the option to send to list@freesbd.org must have been removed and only to freebsd-list@freebsd.org must be working now. Strangely, when I send to freebsd-list@freebsd.org, I get my own copy. Joey On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:45 PM, wrote: > Joey, > More than likely snd_ich but best bet is to: > kldunload snd_driver > kldload snd_ich > dmesg > if pcm0 doesn't load then: > kldload snd_hda > > Jeff >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm trying to determine what sound card a notebook has. There are >> three relevant dmesg lines below, but looking at freebsd's hardware >> notes, I can't tell whether I should use the snd_ich(4) driver for an >> Intel ICH4 card, the snd_hda(4) driver for an 82801 card or a sigmatel >> card. Any suggestions? >> >> >> %cat /var/run/dmesg.boot| grep pcm >> pcm0: port 0xee00-0xeeff,0xe000-0xe03f mem >> 0xffaff800-0xffaff9ff,0xffaff400-0xffaff4ff irq 4 at device 31.5 on >> pci0 >> pcm0: [ITHREAD] >> pcm0: >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joey >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 22:29:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6AE5106566C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from corellia.vindaloo.com (corellia.vindaloo.com [64.51.148.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729648FC0C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from kessel.vindaloo.com (kessel.vindaloo.com [172.24.145.71]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corellia.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665E05CC2; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:29:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Sean Hilton To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <18513.35422.743692.625387@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <1C4CC81A-1524-43D6-87D2-72EE4306ADF5@vindaloo.com> <18513.33023.792318.227404@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1B73754D-9642-4724-9F3D-8E4019136421@vindaloo.com> <18513.35422.743692.625387@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Message-Id: <5FD38325-F798-49D5-825D-C148DF2549BB@vindaloo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:29:31 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Intel Dual PRO/1000 Nic - Setup of shared code failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:29:35 -0000 On Jun 12, 2008, at 4:43 PM, Robert Huff wrote: > > Christopher Sean Hilton writes: > >>>> I just got an Intel Dual gigabit nic that I planned to use with >>>> FreeBSD 7-STABLE. >>> >>> I'm using this on >>> >>> FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Apr 19 23:17:00 EDT 2008 i386 >>> >>> >>> with no problems. >> >> Sounds cool. I had one going in an older laptop as early as 5.x- >> STABLE >> I'm pretty sure it's strongly supported by FreeBSD. > > Actually, the code is cotributed/maintained by Intel. > >> Did you have to do anything special to get it going? > > huff@>> more /boot/loader.conf | grep _em > if_em_load="YES" > > Your mileage may vary. Yeah, my first instinct was to assume that the em driver isn't in the GENERIC kernel to so I did this: # kldload -v if_em Which promptly fired back a bunch of errors about duplicate symbols. At that time I figured that the em module is already loaded into the GENERIC kernel. This was confirmed by doing: # grep '^device.*em' /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card device nge # NatSemi DP83820 gigabit Ethernet ... I can try that later but given that the em driver is already in the kernel I don't expect it to bear fruit. However, can you do a kldstat on your machine with the em card? It will tell me if there is some firmware module or something that I'm missing. -- Chris P.S. In digging around on Google I found kern/117926 in the Bug tracking system. Chris Hilton e: chris|at|vindaloo| dot|com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The pattern juggler lifts his hand; The orchestra begin. As slowly turns the grinding wheel in the court of the crimson king." -- Ian McDonald / Peter Sinfield From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 22:39:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5587B1065674 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0917B8FC12 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:39:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Jun 2008 18:39:00 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id OTI89880; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Jun 2008 18:38:56 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18513.42368.344356.546264@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:38:56 -0400 To: Christopher Sean Hilton In-Reply-To: <5FD38325-F798-49D5-825D-C148DF2549BB@vindaloo.com> References: <1C4CC81A-1524-43D6-87D2-72EE4306ADF5@vindaloo.com> <18513.33023.792318.227404@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1B73754D-9642-4724-9F3D-8E4019136421@vindaloo.com> <18513.35422.743692.625387@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <5FD38325-F798-49D5-825D-C148DF2549BB@vindaloo.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Robert Huff , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Intel Dual PRO/1000 Nic - Setup of shared code failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:39:01 -0000 Christopher Sean Hilton writes: > I can try that later but given that the em driver is already in the > kernel I don't expect it to bear fruit. However, can you do a kldstat > on your machine with the em card? It will tell me if there is some > firmware module or something that I'm missing. huff@>> kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 47 0xc0400000 4b9868 kernel (/boot/kernel/kernel) 2 2 0xc08ba000 29820 linux.ko (/boot/kernel/linux.ko) 3 1 0xc08e4000 2839c if_em.ko (/boot/kernel/if_em.ko) 4 1 0xc090d000 24b4 accf_http.ko (/boot/kernel/accf_http.ko) 5 1 0xc0910000 6a808 acpi.ko (/boot/kernel/acpi.ko) 6 1 0xc4e76000 7000 linprocfs.ko (/boot/kernel/linprocfs.ko) 7 1 0xc5207000 1f000 nfsserver.ko (/boot/kernel/nfsserver.ko) 8 1 0xc5239000 a000 nfslockd.ko (/boot/kernel/nfslockd.ko) 9 1 0xc5244000 f000 krpc.ko (/boot/kernel/krpc.ko) > P.S. In digging around on Google I found kern/117926 in the Bug > tracking system. That machine has a ASUS P4B motherboard. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 22:44:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4248F1065670 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from corellia.vindaloo.com (corellia.vindaloo.com [64.51.148.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDEB8FC1C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:44:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from kessel.vindaloo.com (kessel.vindaloo.com [172.24.145.71]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corellia.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D527B5CC2; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:44:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Sean Hilton To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <18513.42368.344356.546264@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <1C4CC81A-1524-43D6-87D2-72EE4306ADF5@vindaloo.com> <18513.33023.792318.227404@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1B73754D-9642-4724-9F3D-8E4019136421@vindaloo.com> <18513.35422.743692.625387@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <5FD38325-F798-49D5-825D-C148DF2549BB@vindaloo.com> <18513.42368.344356.546264@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:44:36 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Intel Dual PRO/1000 Nic - Setup of shared code failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:44:41 -0000 On Jun 12, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Robert Huff wrote: > > Christopher Sean Hilton writes: > >> I can try that later but given that the em driver is already in the >> kernel I don't expect it to bear fruit. However, can you do a kldstat >> on your machine with the em card? It will tell me if there is some >> firmware module or something that I'm missing. > > huff@>> kldstat > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 47 0xc0400000 4b9868 kernel (/boot/kernel/kernel) > 2 2 0xc08ba000 29820 linux.ko (/boot/kernel/linux.ko) > 3 1 0xc08e4000 2839c if_em.ko (/boot/kernel/if_em.ko) > 4 1 0xc090d000 24b4 accf_http.ko (/boot/kernel/accf_http.ko) > 5 1 0xc0910000 6a808 acpi.ko (/boot/kernel/acpi.ko) > 6 1 0xc4e76000 7000 linprocfs.ko (/boot/kernel/linprocfs.ko) > 7 1 0xc5207000 1f000 nfsserver.ko (/boot/kernel/nfsserver.ko) > 8 1 0xc5239000 a000 nfslockd.ko (/boot/kernel/nfslockd.ko) > 9 1 0xc5244000 f000 krpc.ko (/boot/kernel/krpc.ko) > > >> P.S. In digging around on Google I found kern/117926 in the Bug >> tracking system. > > That machine has a ASUS P4B motherboard. > Doesn't look like there's a firmware module though. Thanks -- Chris Chris Hilton e: chris|at|vindaloo| dot|com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The pattern juggler lifts his hand; The orchestra begin. As slowly turns the grinding wheel in the court of the crimson king." -- Ian McDonald / Peter Sinfield From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 22:52:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCA7106576C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from chen.org.nz (ip-58-28-152-174.static-xdsl.xnet.co.nz [58.28.152.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E5C8FC0A for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7EA0828445; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:34:00 +1200 (NZST) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:34:00 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Nerius Landys Message-ID: <20080612223400.GA68401@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <560f92640806121417v792f1134medc75be8a164da16@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <560f92640806121417v792f1134medc75be8a164da16@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multiple ntpd processes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:52:15 -0000 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 02:17:46PM -0700, Nerius Landys wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 7.0, and I have 'ntpd_enable="YES"' in my /etc/rc.conf. > Every time I reboot my server, I get two ntpd processes: > > nlandys@daffy# ps -U root | grep ntpd > PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND > 571 ?? Ss 0:00.12 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p > /var/run/ntpd.pid > 686 ?? S 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p > /var/run/ntpd.pid This is normal. ntpd spawns a secondary process to check timesyncs on startup. Have a look at the parent-child links with "ps l". It goes away after it has decided which time-source to use. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "In mathematics you don't understand things. You just get used to them." - Johann von Neumann From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 12 23:59:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C2F106566C for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:59:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from raq3.nitrex.net (raq3.nitrex.net [213.165.226.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0811A8FC16 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:59:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.10.143] (gate.zenatode.org.uk [213.165.225.167]) by raq3.nitrex.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5CNxiv7024124 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:59:47 +0100 Message-ID: <4851B872.2090101@onetel.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:59:46 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> <20080611211821.GB25793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> <20080612113725.J4402@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080612113725.J4402@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:59:50 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Is FreeBSD going to enhance himself on the desktop ? It seems that >> FreeBSD > > i don't understand your question. FreeBSD can run any unix program, be > in "server program" or "desktop program" whatever "desktop" means for you. > > there is nothing to be enhanced. I beg to differ. There is far more desktop particularly multimedia development in Linux - lots more people and much wider range of interests. Programs that are not available for FreeBSD include Cinelerra, projectM and (I think, but please prove me wrong) the climateprediction.net BOINC project. If you only want applications that are in the ports tree (and the vast majority are) chances are they are pretty current and work well, in which case FreeBSD makes an easy to maintain, fast, stable desktop. It depends how much of a hacker you are. If you want out-of-the-box and you don't mind kde then choose between pcbsd or desktopbsd. If you want out-of-the-box and gnome I think you are out of luck. If you don't mind diy FreeBSD is your toolbox. There was a discussion about this in questions a while back. Look for subject FreeBSD & Linux distro. Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1499 - Release Date: 6/12/2008 7:13 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 00:17:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6EC106564A for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glenn@elaw.org) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07438FC1A for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glenn@elaw.org) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c8so1467338qbc.39 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.37.14 with SMTP id p14mr776616wfj.267.1213315376037; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.51.3 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <84a992f30806121702r39f132a8y11f8e410221e132c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:02:56 -0700 From: "Glenn Gillis" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Tried to symlink /etc to another disk, now stuck X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:17:57 -0000 I think I did just about the worst thing I could do to my organization's FreeBSD-4.11 email server today: I was trying to free up space on the root disk and attempted to copy the /etc directory to another disk, /new/etc, then delete and symlink the old location to the new: $ sudo cp -Rp /etc /new/etc $ sudo rm -rd /etc/; sudo ln -s /new/etc /etc Of course, with the sudoers file in the original /etc directory, the first "sudo" command to remove the /etc directory disabled the second "sudo" command's ability to run. Now, I cannot log in as a privileged user to copy or move /new/etc back to /etc. (Because the password files were also in /etc.) I've tried booting into Single User mode with "boot -s" at the boot prompt, only to receive a "mountroot>" prompt wanting to know where to find the root filesystem. I've also tried booting from my installation distribution, but can't get out of the installation without the machine rebooting. To make a long story shorter, is there any hope for getting a privileged user account on this machine to move /etc back to where it should be? -- Glenn Gillis ELAW U.S. Information Technology Manager Environmental Law Alliance Worldwide http://www.elaw.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 00:31:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D651065670 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:31:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C59C8FC1C for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:31:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 77971 invoked by uid 89); 13 Jun 2008 00:25:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 13 Jun 2008 00:25:29 -0000 Message-ID: <4851BECA.7090805@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:26:50 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glenn Gillis References: <84a992f30806121702r39f132a8y11f8e410221e132c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <84a992f30806121702r39f132a8y11f8e410221e132c@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tried to symlink /etc to another disk, now stuck X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:31:23 -0000 Glenn Gillis wrote: > Now, I cannot log in as a privileged user to copy or move /new/etc > back to /etc. (Because the password files were also in /etc.) I've > tried booting into Single User mode with "boot -s" at the boot prompt, > only to receive a "mountroot>" prompt wanting to know where to find > the root filesystem. What type of disk(s) do you have in the box? I can't remember the exact syntax of the mountroot prompt, but I'll break one of my machines here to 'remind' myself if you know what driver you use for your root partition. ad (IDE) ar (RAID) da (SCSI) ...etc. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 00:39:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F7F106566C for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:39:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4744E8FC14 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:39:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 99581 invoked by uid 89); 13 Jun 2008 00:40:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 13 Jun 2008 00:40:19 -0000 Message-ID: <4851C245.7070006@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:41:41 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Gerzo References: <20080603202740.W10542@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <872888403.20080603143905@rulez.sk> In-Reply-To: <872888403.20080603143905@rulez.sk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPv6 jails for FreeBSD (6.* preferably) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:39:34 -0000 Daniel Gerzo wrote: > Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 8:27:56 PM, you wrote: > >> does patch exist for it? > > http://sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/jail.html Trying to apply the aforementioned patches, I ran into this during buildkernel. I'll remove src, re csup and rebuild and try again. If there is a more appropriate list for this, please let me know... build# uname -a FreeBSD build.ibctech.ca 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Fri Feb 29 11:53:16 EST 2008 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_jail.c: In function 'jail': /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_jail.c:174: error: 'ip4' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_jail.c:174: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_jail.c:174: error: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_jail.c:179: error: 'ip6' undeclared (first use in this function) cc1: warnings being treated as errors /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_jail.c:227: warning: label 'e_free_ip' defined but not used *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC. *** Error code 1 Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 01:08:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204211065673 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:08:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@hiwaay.net) Received: from bee.hiwaay.net (bee.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CB48FC19 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:08:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@hiwaay.net) Received: from [10.0.0.183] ([216.186.148.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by bee.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5D0sc9g1093921 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:54:39 -0500 (CDT) From: David Kelly To: Kirk Strauser In-Reply-To: <200806121521.16237.kirk@strauser.com> References: <200806121521.16237.kirk@strauser.com> Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:54:37 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stripe sizes with gstripe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:08:23 -0000 On Jun 12, 2008, at 3:21 PM, Kirk Strauser wrote: > Does gstripe read an entire stripe at a time? If so, why do that > instead of > just reading a few requested blocks? If not, then is there any > advantage > to large stripes? Apparently it won't read anything larger than your stripe size which defaults to a miserable 4k. Doesn't appear the driver collects multiple pending reads and merges them into one transaction. Don't know if ATA/SATA allows that or not, believe it was called "scatter/gather" in SCSI. Built a gstripe volume a while back and played with various stripe sizes trying to maximize KB/t as shown in "systat -v" during massive file read/writes. A stripe size of 131072 (128k bytes) was the best I could get at about 43 KB/t. About 25 MB/sec each on two drives that are capable of 4x that on a Mac Pro (about 55 MB/sec single drive on inner tracks to 100 MB/sec on outer, reading with md5). Anyway, throughput was terrible with the default 4k stripe. If there is a tuning knob that I have missed, would appreciate being told what. IIRC vinum's default stripe was about 87.5kB and "systat -v" reported transactions of that size. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 01:20:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA4E106574F for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870208FC13 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5D1KTGn011884 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:20:29 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) id m5D1KTMj011867; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:20:29 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:20:29 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Glenn Gillis Message-ID: <20080613012029.GA16341@dan.emsphone.com> References: <84a992f30806121702r39f132a8y11f8e410221e132c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <84a992f30806121702r39f132a8y11f8e410221e132c@mail.gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tried to symlink /etc to another disk, now stuck X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:20:32 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 12), Glenn Gillis said: > I think I did just about the worst thing I could do to my > organization's FreeBSD-4.11 email server today: > > I was trying to free up space on the root disk and attempted to copy > the /etc directory to another disk, /new/etc, then delete and symlink > the old location to the new: > > $ sudo cp -Rp /etc /new/etc > $ sudo rm -rd /etc/; sudo ln -s /new/etc /etc > > Of course, with the sudoers file in the original /etc directory, the > first "sudo" command to remove the /etc directory disabled the second > "sudo" command's ability to run. > > Now, I cannot log in as a privileged user to copy or move /new/etc > back to /etc. (Because the password files were also in /etc.) I've > tried booting into Single User mode with "boot -s" at the boot > prompt, only to receive a "mountroot>" prompt wanting to know where > to find the root filesystem. I've also tried booting from my > installation distribution, but can't get out of the installation > without the machine rebooting. > > To make a long story shorter, is there any hope for getting a > privileged user account on this machine to move /etc back to where it > should be? It may be easiest to boot a live CD (FreeSBIE, or a FreeBSD-7 install disc 1 should work), mount both of your hard drives from it, and put /etc back where it belongs that way. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 01:51:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B211065687 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:51:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4275E8FC19 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:51:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 2018 invoked by uid 89); 13 Jun 2008 01:52:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 13 Jun 2008 01:52:21 -0000 Message-ID: <4851D328.8060107@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:53:44 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Nelson References: <84a992f30806121702r39f132a8y11f8e410221e132c@mail.gmail.com> <20080613012029.GA16341@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20080613012029.GA16341@dan.emsphone.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Glenn Gillis Subject: Re: Tried to symlink /etc to another disk, now stuck X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:51:35 -0000 Dan Nelson wrote: >> To make a long story shorter, is there any hope for getting a >> privileged user account on this machine to move /etc back to where it >> should be? > > It may be easiest to boot a live CD (FreeSBIE, or a FreeBSD-7 install > disc 1 should work), mount both of your hard drives from it, and put > /etc back where it belongs that way. This is a very good point, but in this case, if its only /etc that has been relocated, the system is at mountroot> because fstab can't be found. If the disk type is known, it is as simple as typing the appropriate location of the root fs at that prompt and the system will come up. Under single user, the OP would have full access to everything to revert the changes (perhaps other disk areas with binaries may have to be mounted manually as well)... I'm off to try it. I've got a system here with a da device. I'll fsck up /etc/fstab, reboot, and report back with the appropriate mountroot> prompt entry... Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 02:07:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0ED1065672 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:07:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E7DF8FC14 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:07:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 2513 invoked by uid 89); 13 Jun 2008 02:08:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 13 Jun 2008 02:08:19 -0000 Message-ID: <4851D6DD.8090801@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:09:33 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Nelson References: <84a992f30806121702r39f132a8y11f8e410221e132c@mail.gmail.com> <20080613012029.GA16341@dan.emsphone.com> <4851D328.8060107@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <4851D328.8060107@ibctech.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Glenn Gillis Subject: Re: Tried to symlink /etc to another disk, now stuck X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:07:34 -0000 Steve Bertrand wrote: > Dan Nelson wrote: > I'm off to try it. I've got a system here with a da device. I'll fsck up > /etc/fstab, reboot, and report back with the appropriate mountroot> > prompt entry... # cat /etc/fstab # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/da0a / ufs rw,noatime 1 1 md /tmp mfs rw,-s32M,nosuid,noatime 0 0 (..snip..) ..change /etc/fstab to mount root to /dev/ad15a, reboot: mountroot> # mountroot>ufs:/dev/da0a {ENTER} ...machine boots up. To the OP...if you know what your disk type is, you CAN get it to continue to mount root at the mountroot prompt. Furthering that, you can also fsck and mount your other disk mountpoints in order to gain access to your editing binaries. There is no need to use an external resource to boot the machine from if you are already aware that the only thing that got fsck'd up is the mountpoints in the fstab (or, like in this case, the file was unavailable entirely). The disk structure is still the same, and the system can see this with manual intervention. OP: at the mountroot> prompt, try this: ufs:/dev/ad0s1a and see if you get anywhere. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 02:17:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7261065672 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E0FD8FC17 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 2825 invoked by uid 89); 13 Jun 2008 02:18:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 13 Jun 2008 02:18:44 -0000 Message-ID: <4851D956.5080801@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:20:06 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Nelson References: <84a992f30806121702r39f132a8y11f8e410221e132c@mail.gmail.com> <20080613012029.GA16341@dan.emsphone.com> <4851D328.8060107@ibctech.ca> <4851D6DD.8090801@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <4851D6DD.8090801@ibctech.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Glenn Gillis Subject: Re: Tried to symlink /etc to another disk, now stuck X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:17:57 -0000 > To the OP...if you know what your disk type is, you CAN get it to > continue to mount root at the mountroot prompt. > > Furthering that, you can also fsck and mount your other disk mountpoints > in order to gain access to your editing binaries. I'm sorry to reply to my own posts, but I'd like to point out that this exact scenario is a very good reason as to why I make either a digital or printout copy of my /etc/fstab file of every machine I run. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 03:36:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101C11065675 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 03:36:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@seaholm.caamora.com.au) Received: from seaholm.caamora.com.au (seaholm.caamora.com.au [203.7.226.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505A48FC0C for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 03:36:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@seaholm.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by seaholm.caamora.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id m5D3Ggq22052; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:16:42 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <20080613131641.18728@caamora.com.au> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:16:42 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: Derek Ragona References: <20080611213645.07247@caamora.com.au> <6.0.0.22.2.20080611123741.0341e498@mail.computinginnovations.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20080611123741.0341e498@mail.computinginnovations.com>; from Derek Ragona on Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:43:42PM -0500 Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Cc: freebsd questions Subject: Re: sendmail: stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 03:36:38 -0000 greetings, derek, much appreciated the prompt reply On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:43:42PM -0500, Derek Ragona wrote: > At 06:36 AM 6/11/2008, jonathan michaels wrote: bit of history trimed for brevity > >in teh freebsd.mc/sendmail.mc and a 'make install' to cover all > >bases. > > > >i treied to restart teh mailqueue ... no luck .. grrr > > > > and then an entry into the mailertable > > > >. esmpt:mail.caamora.com.au > > > >again did the make whatever thingie and ... tried to post, > >again this defered post business .. can't asign .. > > > >there is something going on here that i donot understand .. > >some enlightenment would be appreciated, please. > > > >the few bits i found in yahoosearch engine, google resfuses me > >access still but yahoo i can use. i looked uo the error message > >and turned up this one endrt refereing to teh linux incedent, i > >have a copy of bat book ed 1 it just says it exists, same for > >smart_host mail_hub macros. > > > >is there some way to fix this short of upgrading and mvoing to > >postfix ?? i don't have teh needed stuff to do that just yet > >(me and hardware issues) > > > >it looks like i've missed somethings but i don't know enough > >about freebsd v6.x to know even where to start to look for this > >one .. aside from this i have another v6.2 host that also was > >doing the same thing but after i copied a working set of > >sendmail configs and restarted sendmail it work properly except > >teh it dosent forward the "charlie root" mail from teh > >maintenece events (at 2 am. 3 am and 4 am from teh /etc/cron > >events) the mail itesm just sit in teh /var/mail/root folder > > > >it has taken me just under 6 mnths to get this far, i've come > >to teh end of my rope and am seriously thinking of going back > >to freebsd v2.2.5 .. > > > >regards/appreciations/much graciousnessess > > > >jonathan > > You need to have in /etc/mail/mailertable: > .caamora.com.au esmpt:mail.caamora.com.au > and rebuild mailertable.db should not the "esmpt:" rather be "esmtp:" most of teh literature that i have read recently says it the esmtp way .. i live with dsylexia amongst other neurological disabilities and need to double/triple/add a few more time to check things before i am confident of success (not failing) based on 'spelling' alone. > In /etc/mail/domaintable: > mail.caamora.com.au > and rebuild domaintable.db i used to run a uucp mail service for several clients back in teh fidonet days (internet to fidonet gateway) and this made sence then, now i fali to understand the need .. i just do not know and would appreciate a bit of an explanation please .. mail.caamora.com.au is an alias (in the dns file and /etc/hosts) for the machine seaholm.caamora.com.au which is the primary mailserver for the domain .caamora.com.au ... is not tthe domaintable used to remap an old domain to a new domain name after some soprt of a change or to use names in 'rule 3' mappings .. if i have missunderstood my readings i apoloise, i am new to sendmail fiddlings, i set it up ten years ago and it worked i now have to relearn who and why .. my disabilities have gotten a bit worse because of teh medicines i need to take and this makes learning a bit on teh harder side .. but not impossible > in /etc/mail/local-host-names: > caamora.com.au check, it was done long time ago > and double check your MX record and /etc/hosts i looked at my dns files and found a small disaprity from a name change about 2 years ago, i made teh change in teh main file but forgot to carry it into teh reverse lookup file, grrrr. as for the MX records they have been much teh same for about 15 years, i like long term stability makes for peace of mind , the down side is that when things go wrong like this, it is a nightmare to recall what, how did/done way back when the system was built/changed last .. makes for lots of work sometimes. > Once that is all done, execute: > /etc/rc.sendmail stop > wait until all instances die then: > /etc/rc.sendmail start ok .. did teh checks, made teh changes, even the domaintable, though i don;t understand how it works, the only thing i don't do as you wrote was teh esmpt .. i used teh more popular esmtp ?? apart from fixing teh esmtp mistype i did it all and checked teh mx host my dns setup and still its dead in teh water, still defering all mail out from this box. might it have some thing to do with this line in teh sendmail config line it is commented out ?? the one reference that i found on teh world wide internet made some sort of reference to this being the cause in the linux machine that had a similar issue back in 2003 ??? # SMTP client options #O ClientPortOptions=Family=inet, Address=0.0.0.0 what would happen if i uncommented this line in teh sendmail.cf file ? also, what use are teh sendmail config files that are named /etc/mail/host,name.cf when i forst installed freebsd in this machine it built these files and since then nothing has touched the two files .. what are they for what do they do in teh sendmail hiearchay ??? please ? this is a really confusing situation, i've got nowhere else to go for informations much appreciations for teh help. kind regards jonathan -- ================================================================ powered by .. QNX, OS9 and freeBSD -- http://caamora com au/operating system ==== === appropriate solution in an inappropriate world === ==== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 04:34:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2CC1065676 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [64.7.153.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7DD8FC24 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:34:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1c.sentex.ca [64.7.153.10]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5D4YUbh039226; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:34:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.0.137] (p125kab.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca [64.7.154.126]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5D4YT9R030611; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:34:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4851F8D3.1000807@sentex.net> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:34:27 -0400 From: Andrew Berry User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Bertrand References: <84a992f30806121702r39f132a8y11f8e410221e132c@mail.gmail.com> <20080613012029.GA16341@dan.emsphone.com> <4851D328.8060107@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <4851D328.8060107@ibctech.ca> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040505050002080307030602" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/7040/Mon May 5 21:52:15 2008 clamav-milter version 0.93 on clamscanner3 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 64.7.153.18 Cc: Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Glenn Gillis Subject: Re: Tried to symlink /etc to another disk, now stuck X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:34:35 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040505050002080307030602 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Bertrand wrote: > If the disk type is known, it is as simple as typing the appropriate > location of the root fs at that prompt and the system will come up. I don't remember about FreeBSD 4, but last time I dealt with a broken fstab on FreeBSD 6 I could just press tab to get a list of valid block devices. 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smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [64.7.153.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B99D8FC1A for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:42:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1c.sentex.ca [64.7.153.10]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5D4gkvU039842; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:42:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.0.137] (p125kab.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca [64.7.154.126]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5D4ghcR036823; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:42:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4851FAC1.9070703@sentex.net> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:42:41 -0400 From: Andrew Berry User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com" References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> <20080611211821.GB25793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> <20080612113725.J4402@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <485137E3.9010803@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <485137E3.9010803@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070701090005010404070605" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/7040/Mon May 5 21:52:15 2008 clamav-milter version 0.93 on clamscanner2 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 64.7.153.18 Cc: Jerry McAllister , Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:42:51 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070701090005010404070605 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com wrote: > For example, I think the installation and local language support(I need > to read and input Chinese frequently) of ubuntu may be better than FreeBSD. I believe most of those sorts of enhancements would be provided by the applications or desktop environment. Gnome or KDE should have similar language support regardless of OS. However, you may have to enable language-specific features when building each port - run 'make config' before building to be sure there aren't any optional but disabled options related to language support. There are also language specific ports of some applications - check the ports tree in /usr/ports/chinese/ for information (after installing). --Andrew --------------ms070701090005010404070605 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIMjjCC BkMwggUroAMCAQICEQC38LypwNnyJwW+s72BPxr8MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMIGuMQswCQYD VQQGEwJVUzELMAkGA1UECBMCVVQxFzAVBgNVBAcTDlNhbHQgTGFrZSBDaXR5MR4wHAYDVQQK ExVUaGUgVVNFUlRSVVNUIE5ldHdvcmsxITAfBgNVBAsTGGh0dHA6Ly93d3cudXNlcnRydXN0 LmNvbTE2MDQGA1UEAxMtVVROLVVTRVJGaXJzdC1DbGllbnQgQXV0aGVudGljYXRpb24gYW5k IEVtYWlsMB4XDTA3MTEwMjAwMDAwMFoXDTA4MTEwMTIzNTk1OVowgd4xNTAzBgNVBAsTLENv bW9kbyBUcnVzdCBOZXR3b3JrIC0gUEVSU09OQSBOT1QgVkFMSURBVEVEMUYwRAYDVQQLEz1U ZXJtcyBhbmQgQ29uZGl0aW9ucyBvZiB1c2U6IGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuY29tb2RvLm5ldC9yZXBv 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out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94698FC19 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:10:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B922A1160BB; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:09:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:09:59 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: Xgf/0A7A//ClFTMX1SCfz9xbvZ5KKpUEOhLL34h+5CDM 1213333799 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3CECC22F87; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:09:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <8E8479E4-240C-4BB4-8A01-8387A9F7994A@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: David Naylor In-Reply-To: <200806122224.19147.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:09:58 -0500 References: <200806112225.36221.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> <200806121519.12820.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> <62860DF8-423D-48B3-9757-CC3D24732CF0@goldmark.org> <200806122224.19147.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:10:01 -0000 On Jun 12, 2008, at 3:24 PM, David Naylor wrote: > This is a general enquiry. What had sparked my interest in this > subject is > the above mentioned article. In this case it is a workstation used > to access > and manage account and cash flows. The threat would be anyone > gaining access > to 'divert' funds to incorrect accounts, for obvious personal gains. How much money are we talking about? If it is billions of NZD that is one thing, if it is thousands of NZD that is another. The question is would someone with resources make a concerted effort to specifically target your system? If so, you should hire a local professional. If your concern is more about the kinds of wide spread automated attacks, then really it's just a matter of doing the basic sorts of things. Disabling root SSH logins, have your perimeter firewall check for unusual out-bound traffic, and of course, keeping the system properly updated. > Specifically, the two threats would be remote attach (such as > spyware being > deployed, or gaining remote access) I haven't played around with it, but you might want to look at Mandatory Access Control (described in the Handbook). It's something that has been on my "to learn" list for a while, but I am getting through that list very slowly. From what you've said, it sounds like you are talking about a multi-user system. Something like MAC really may be the best approach to preventing individual users from being tricked into doing stupid things. > or physical access (in which case keeping > the username and password safe will be the only option? Assuming > their is no > compromise on the human side) For a typical machine, physical access means all access. If I have physical access to a machine, I may be able to boot it from my own boot media (a CD for example) and then read everything on the hard disks. I could remove the disks and copy them. I could install a physical keystroke logger between the keyboard and the box. There really is a lot that can be done with physical access. So if you have reason to believe that attackers would have physical access to the machine, you should use encrypted file systems. Note that with both MAC and encrypted file systems you run an increased risk of locking yourself out of the system by accident. So what measures you wish to take, with their additional costs and risks, depends on a careful and realistic view of what the threats are. I've enjoyed this discussion. Cheers, -j From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 06:28:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06521065671 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:28:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ehl@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu) Received: from dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (dewey.SoE.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.157.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC58C8FC16 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:28:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ehl@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu) Received: from dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m5D6EZ4t007892 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ehl@localhost) by dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id m5D6EZhu011974 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:14:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Edward Lay Message-Id: <200806130614.m5D6EZhu011974@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Unable to reach hosts outside my subnet after initial install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:28:30 -0000 After a fresh installation of freeBSD 7.0, I am unable to communicate with any hosts beyond the local subnet. All important values (gateway, netmask,etc) were copied from other unix hosts on the same subnet. Presumably I've either failed to include something important or there is a conflict. Details follow... thanks for any assistance, ed %uname -a FreeBSD newdewey.soe.berkeley.edu 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008 root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERICi386 here's the current net config: newdewey# ifconfig xl0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=9 ether 00:01:02:c1:b6:fb inet 128.32.157.5 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 128.32.157.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active plip0: flags=108810 metric 0 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 Here's the contents of /etc/rc.conf: newdewey# more rc.conf # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Thu May 22 21:45:55 2008 # Created: Thu May 22 21:45:55 2008 # Enable network daemons for user convenience. # Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. # This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. defaultrouter="128.32.157.1" hostname="newdewey.soe.berkeley.edu" ifconfig_xl0="inet 128.32.157.5 netmask 255.255.255.0" inetd_enable="YES" linux_enable="YES" # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Tue May 27 19:42:16 2008 router_flags="-q" router="/sbin/routed" router_enable="YES" %netstat -r Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default fast2-2.inr-240-mu UGS 0 1088 xl0 localhost localhost UH 0 905 lo0 128.32.157.0 link#1 UC 0 0 xl0 fast2-2.inr-240-mu 00:0c:86:7a:75:c0 UHLW 2 0 xl0 1197 dewey 08:00:2b:86:6e:ca UHLW 1 77 xl0 1144 tolman-18.LIPS.Ber 00:0a:95:b1:e7:fe UHLW 1 0 xl0 Finally, the current situation is that I can ping hosts on the 128.32.157.* subnet, but not anything beyond. newdewey# ping google.com PING google.com (64.233.187.99): 56 data bytes ^C --- google.com ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss newdewey# ping dewey.soe.berkeley.edu PING dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (128.32.157.3): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 128.32.157.3: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.360 ms 64 bytes from 128.32.157.3: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.320 ms ^C --- dewey.soe.berkeley.edu ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.320/0.340/0.360/0.020 ms From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 07:05:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45DC1065672; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:05:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812008FC19; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:05:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5D75WZh004992; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:05:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5D75V7L004989; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:05:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:05:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Steve Bertrand In-Reply-To: <4851C245.7070006@ibctech.ca> Message-ID: <20080613090326.Q4713@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080603202740.W10542@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <872888403.20080603143905@rulez.sk> <4851C245.7070006@ibctech.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1626729238-2146612198-1213340730=:4713" Cc: Daniel Gerzo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPv6 jails for FreeBSD (6.* preferably) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:05:43 -0000 This message is in MIME format. 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djlNi/3oIRggr///H3AEre4oAQA= --1626729238-2146612198-1213340730=:4713-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 07:08:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9003D106567D; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90ED68FC0A; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:08:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5D78mxK005011; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:08:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5D78mBA005008; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:08:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:08:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080613090714.K4713@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200806121521.16237.kirk@strauser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stripe sizes with gstripe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:08:54 -0000 >> Does gstripe read an entire stripe at a time? If so, why do that instead >> of >> just reading a few requested blocks? If not, then is there any advantage >> to large stripes? > > Apparently it won't read anything larger than your stripe size which defaults > to a miserable 4k. depending from what's needed, but unless i need just huge linear transfer, i set stripe size to something huge, like 256MB. then single read is rarely split on 2 disks, while multiple reads have good chances to touch different drives From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 07:08:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9003D106567D; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90ED68FC0A; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:08:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5D78mxK005011; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:08:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5D78mBA005008; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:08:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:08:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080613090714.K4713@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200806121521.16237.kirk@strauser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stripe sizes with gstripe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:08:54 -0000 >> Does gstripe read an entire stripe at a time? If so, why do that instead >> of >> just reading a few requested blocks? If not, then is there any advantage >> to large stripes? > > Apparently it won't read anything larger than your stripe size which defaults > to a miserable 4k. depending from what's needed, but unless i need just huge linear transfer, i set stripe size to something huge, like 256MB. then single read is rarely split on 2 disks, while multiple reads have good chances to touch different drives From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 08:51:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009EA1065674 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:51:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F618FC0C for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:51:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K750R-0006l6-O9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:51:35 +0000 Received: from mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net ([82.237.75.54]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:51:35 +0000 Received: from gilles.ganault by mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:51:35 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gilles Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:51:28 +0200 Lines: 7 Message-ID: <96d454pk73ornom636es6caii1cl8h29dt@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 Sender: news Subject: [Ports] How to find where a port is located? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:51:37 -0000 Hello Currently, to find where a software is located under /usr/ports/, I rune the "find" command. Is there a database that I could query instead so that it gives out the whole path to that the application? Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 09:01:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53F11065679 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:01:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51D08FC18 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:01:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5D90xbC086184; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:00:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5D90wcu086166; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:00:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:00:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Gilles In-Reply-To: <96d454pk73ornom636es6caii1cl8h29dt@4ax.com> Message-ID: <20080613110036.S85139@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <96d454pk73ornom636es6caii1cl8h29dt@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Ports] How to find where a port is located? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:01:07 -0000 > Hello > > Currently, to find where a software is located under /usr/ports/, I > rune the "find" command. Is there a database that I could query > instead so that it gives out the whole path to that the application? grep in /usr/ports/INDEX or ls -ld /usr/ports/*/packagename From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 09:02:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863771065681 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CE98FC0A for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:02:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5D92qYL089991; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:02:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5D92pFx089975; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:02:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:02:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Chris Whitehouse In-Reply-To: <4851B872.2090101@onetel.com> Message-ID: <20080613110158.K86321@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> <20080611211821.GB25793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> <20080612113725.J4402@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4851B872.2090101@onetel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:02:57 -0000 > It depends how much of a hacker you are. If you want out-of-the-box and you > don't mind kde then choose between pcbsd or desktopbsd. If you want > out-of-the-box and gnome I think you are out of luck. If you don't mind diy > FreeBSD is your toolbox. if you want out of the box "cool desktop" use Windows, because it's a system made for this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 09:03:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761DB1065687 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from hawk.thalamus.net (hawk.thalamus.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6DE8FC14 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D971EE891; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:03:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at thalamus.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.673 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.673 tagged_above=-999 required=4.2 tests=[AWL=0.673] Received: from hawk.thalamus.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hawk.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kpRd8e-8IPMp; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:03:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.17.0.160] (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311671EE983; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:03:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <485237E8.5070903@eskk.nu> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:03:36 +0200 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gilles References: <96d454pk73ornom636es6caii1cl8h29dt@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <96d454pk73ornom636es6caii1cl8h29dt@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Ports] How to find where a port is located? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:03:44 -0000 Gilles skrev: > Hello > > Currently, to find where a software is located under /usr/ports/, I > rune the "find" command. Is there a database that I could query > instead so that it gives out the whole path to that the application? > > Thank you. Or http://www.se.freebsd.org/ports/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 09:35:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17AE51065679 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from catalin@starcomms.com) Received: from webmail.starcomms.com (webmail.starcomms.com [41.205.191.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E8C48FC1E for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:34:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from catalin@starcomms.com) Received: from (webmail.starcomms.com [172.16.2.31]) by webmail.starcomms.com with smtp id 2f0c_b8ec0b00_3928_11dd_81f3_001143cecab4; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:11:35 +0100 Received: from STA-HQ-S001.starcomms.local ([172.16.2.28]) by webmail.starcomms.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:17:00 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:17:02 +0100 Message-ID: <3A0AA7018522134597ED63B3B794C92A0220F428@STA-HQ-S001.starcomms.local> In-Reply-To: <485237E8.5070903@eskk.nu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Ports] How to find where a port is located? Thread-Index: AcjNNUBwkpFX8pYWQ3qeKo+NeGRLCgAAAZxA References: <96d454pk73ornom636es6caii1cl8h29dt@4ax.com> <485237E8.5070903@eskk.nu> From: "Catalin Miclaus" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Jun 2008 09:17:01.0093 (UTC) FILETIME=[3CBBD550:01C8CD36] Subject: RE: [Ports] How to find where a port is located? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:35:02 -0000 Gilles skrev: > Hello >=20 > Currently, to find where a software is located under /usr/ports/, I > rune the "find" command. Is there a database that I could query > instead so that it gives out the whole path to that the application? >=20 > Thank you. Try 'whereis portname'. Best Regards Catalin Miclaus Network/Security ISP-Data Starcomms Ltd. Or http://www.se.freebsd.org/ports/index.html _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 09:39:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB1B1065671 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC038FC14 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K75ke-0000Iy-82 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:39:20 +0000 Received: from mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net ([82.237.75.54]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:39:20 +0000 Received: from gilles.ganault by mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:39:20 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gilles Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:39:10 +0200 Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <96d454pk73ornom636es6caii1cl8h29dt@4ax.com> <485237E8.5070903@eskk.nu> <3A0AA7018522134597ED63B3B794C92A0220F428@STA-HQ-S001.starcomms.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 Sender: news Subject: Re: [Ports] How to find where a port is located? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:39:24 -0000 On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:17:02 +0100, "Catalin Miclaus" wrote: >Try 'whereis portname'. Thanks. That seems to be the fastest way: # whereis lftp lftp: /usr/local/bin/lftp /usr/local/man/man1/lftp.1.gz /usr/ports/ftp/lftp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 10:05:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482BB1065676 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:05:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB4F8FC1E for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:05:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K76AL-0001mK-Fl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:05:53 +0000 Received: from mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net ([82.237.75.54]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:05:53 +0000 Received: from gilles.ganault by mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:05:53 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gilles Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:05:45 +0200 Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <96d454pk73ornom636es6caii1cl8h29dt@4ax.com> <485237E8.5070903@eskk.nu> <3A0AA7018522134597ED63B3B794C92A0220F428@STA-HQ-S001.starcomms.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 Sender: news Subject: Re: [Ports] How to find where a port is located? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:05:57 -0000 On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:39:10 +0200, Gilles wrote: >Thanks. That seems to be the fastest way: Actually... no: # whereis samba samba: /usr/ports/japanese/samba # whereis samba3 samba3: /usr/ports/japanese/samba3 # find /usr/ports/ -name "samba*" [...] /usr/ports/net/samba3 Why didn't "whereis" find samba3? Do I need to run a command to keep it up-to-date with "csup ports-supfile? Thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 10:41:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDE01065678 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1178FC12 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from prawn.unsane.co.uk (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m5DAdmPf030521 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:39:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <48524EB3.7010406@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:40:51 +0100 From: Vince Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080609) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Catalin Miclaus References: <96d454pk73ornom636es6caii1cl8h29dt@4ax.com> <485237E8.5070903@eskk.nu> <3A0AA7018522134597ED63B3B794C92A0220F428@STA-HQ-S001.starcomms.local> In-Reply-To: <3A0AA7018522134597ED63B3B794C92A0220F428@STA-HQ-S001.starcomms.local> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Ports] How to find where a port is located? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:41:12 -0000 I use cd /usr/ports && make search name=portname It will return extraneous results from time to time. eg. [/usr/ports](11:39:22) {root@prawn}#cd /usr/ports && make search name=lftp Port: lftp-3.7.3_1 Path: /usr/ports/ftp/lftp Info: Shell-like command line ftp client Maint: ganael.laplanche@martymac.com B-deps: expat-2.0.1 gettext-0.17_1 libiconv-1.11_1 R-deps: expat-2.0.1 gettext-0.17_1 libiconv-1.11_1 WWW: http://lftp.yar.ru/ Port: fusefs-curlftpfs-0.9.1_1 Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs Info: Mount remote ftp directories Maint: infofarmer@FreeBSD.org B-deps: curl-7.18.0 fusefs-libs-2.7.2_1 gettext-0.17_1 glib-2.16.3_1 libiconv-1.11_1 pcre-7.7 perl-5.8.8_1 pkg-config-0.23_1 python25-2.5.2_2 R-deps: curl-7.18.0 fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1.20080208_1 fusefs-libs-2.7.2_1 gamin-0.1.9_2 gettext-0.17_1 gio-fam-backend-2.16.3_1 glib-2.16.3_1 libiconv-1.11_1 pcre-7.7 perl-5.8.8_1 pkg-config-0.23_1 python25-2.5.2_2 WWW: http://curlftpfs.sourceforge.net/ Vince Catalin Miclaus wrote: > Gilles skrev: >> Hello >> >> Currently, to find where a software is located under /usr/ports/, I >> rune the "find" command. Is there a database that I could query >> instead so that it gives out the whole path to that the application? >> >> Thank you. > > Try 'whereis portname'. > > > > > > Best Regards > Catalin Miclaus > Network/Security ISP-Data > Starcomms Ltd. > > > > Or > > http://www.se.freebsd.org/ports/index.html > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 10:43:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE84F1065685 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:43:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E755A8FC17 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:43:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Jun 2008 10:43:16 -0000 Received: from pD952DFE6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO core2duo.local) [217.82.223.230] by mail.gmx.net (mp067) with SMTP; 13 Jun 2008 12:43:16 +0200 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+gV6kc8yKg79yN+wnNpL9vTVMqai1vQOwA1rW7H+ TR4HfNRotIQoq3 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:43:13 +0200 From: Andreas Rudisch To: Gilles Message-Id: <20080613124313.12943e7f.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <96d454pk73ornom636es6caii1cl8h29dt@4ax.com> References: <96d454pk73ornom636es6caii1cl8h29dt@4ax.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Fri__13_Jun_2008_12_43_13_+0200_hsSoziR_ky1Cgos4" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Ports] How to find where a port is located? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:43:19 -0000 --Signature=_Fri__13_Jun_2008_12_43_13_+0200_hsSoziR_ky1Cgos4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:51:28 +0200 Gilles wrote: > Hello >=20 > Currently, to find where a software is located under /usr/ports/, I > rune the "find" command. Is there a database that I could query > instead so that it gives out the whole path to that the application? >=20 > Thank you. You can use 'make search name=3D' or 'make search key=3D' For example in /usr/ports type: make search name=3D"samba" | grep Path Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Fri__13_Jun_2008_12_43_13_+0200_hsSoziR_ky1Cgos4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhST0QACgkQ8P3NNypXNWVMnQCfVWcKb4UfjiFR1tM0vBRukjIU HSAAoIkGR3PPJvIBilpqDw1f4lZiQL3h =0ymV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Fri__13_Jun_2008_12_43_13_+0200_hsSoziR_ky1Cgos4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 11:08:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93AB61065670 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:08:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DC68FC28 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:08:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K7797-0004DC-LY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:08:41 +0000 Received: from mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net ([82.237.75.54]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:08:41 +0000 Received: from gilles.ganault by mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:08:41 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gilles Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:08:32 +0200 Lines: 5 Message-ID: <69l45493t5lb45d6j864v3qt1as63ifsbk@4ax.com> References: <96d454pk73ornom636es6caii1cl8h29dt@4ax.com> <19798.7670464956$1213353900@news.gmane.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 Sender: news Subject: Re: [Ports] How to find where a port is located? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:08:43 -0000 On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:43:13 +0200, Andreas Rudisch <"cyb."@gmx.net> wrote: >You can use 'make search name=' or 'make search key=' Thanks, much faster. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 13:24:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794321065676 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkjp@charter.net) Received: from mail.cluebytwelve.org (clueby12.org [198.186.190.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490D98FC12 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:24:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkjp@charter.net) Received: from localdomain.local (68-186-133-111.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com [68.186.133.111]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cluebytwelve.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5681B5CA for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:23:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: by localdomain.local (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ABA23B883; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:23:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:23:52 -0500 From: "J. Porter Clark" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080613132352.GA43591@auricle.charter.net> References: <20080612005453.GA26319@auricle.charter.net> <48513559.3000306@FreeBSD.org> <20080612153614.GA32605@auricle.charter.net> <485154D5.3060707@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <485154D5.3060707@FreeBSD.org> Organization: http://www.angelfire.com/ego/porterclark/ User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: Nanobsd on a CD-ROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:24:11 -0000 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 06:54:45PM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > > > J. Porter Clark wrote: > | On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 04:40:25PM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > |> J. Porter Clark wrote: > |> | Is it possible to build a CD-ROM with a bootable NanoBSD on it? > |> | If so, how? > |> > |> Yes, Section 2.2 of > |> > |> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/nanobsd/index.html > | > | Well, no, because I can't do this: > | > | # dd if=_.disk.full of=/dev/acd0 bs=64k > | > | If I do this: > | > | % cdrecord -v -immed driveropts=burnfree dev=1,0,0 -data _.disk.full > > Try with burncd > > | burncd -f /dev/acd0 data _.disk.full fixate No joy. Produces the same disk that cdrecord does, and boots from hard disk instead. I think that this is the problem: The BIOS knows how to boot from a CD if and only if that CD is an "El Torito" bootable image. That is, the first sector of the CD is NOT a Master Boot Record. That's just a hypothesis based on the observation that all of the successfully bootable CDs I have appear to be in "El Torito" format. I don't have a way to make such an image without using mkisofs. Figuring out how to pack the nanobsd image in such a way that mkisofs can make an "El Torito" bootable CD from it sounds difficult, offhand. Anybody know how to do this sort of thing? Is it even possible? -- J. Porter Clark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 13:25:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EBD106564A for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B788FC0A for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1K79Hq-0000Yq-IR for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:25:50 -0700 Message-ID: <17823354.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:25:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Colin_Brace To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <25515aa06ecb67b43d2a517bcceed88f@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: cb@lim.nl References: <25515aa06ecb67b43d2a517bcceed88f@localhost> Subject: Re: error mounting USB disk: Invalid argument [SOLVED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:25:51 -0000 Colin_Brace wrote: > > I am having difficulties mounting a USB drive under 7.0-STABLE. Running > sysinstall, I can create a partition and format it. But sysinstall is > unable to mount it: > > Error mounting /dev/da0s1d on /media/disk6 : Invalid argument > > The same error ocurrs when I try to mount it manually on the command line. > I have tried various mount points, to no avail. > > Anyone have any ideas what is going wrong? > I am not sure what was going wrong then, but I now have this working, both with a Myson-based chipset device (ATA->USB) as well as a JMicron-based device (SATA->USB). I am not sure whether this is a factor, but I also added a USB v2 PCI card to the box (it is an older Pentium IV with a motherboard that only supports USB v1.1). The chipset of this card is Via. For several of the ext3 partitions, I had to run "fsck_ext2fs" first before I could mount them. Thanks for the various suggestions; they pointed me in the right direction. ----- Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/error-mounting-USB-disk%3A-Invalid-argument-tp17572449p17823354.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 13:51:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B05931065672 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:51:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6D18FC0A for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from prawn.unsane.co.uk (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m5DDoFh4032775 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:50:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <48527B56.2050701@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:51:18 +0100 From: Vince Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080609) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J. Porter Clark" References: <20080612005453.GA26319@auricle.charter.net> <48513559.3000306@FreeBSD.org> <20080612153614.GA32605@auricle.charter.net> <485154D5.3060707@FreeBSD.org> <20080613132352.GA43591@auricle.charter.net> In-Reply-To: <20080613132352.GA43591@auricle.charter.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nanobsd on a CD-ROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:51:22 -0000 to make a freebsd CDROM bootable you need to use the /boot/cdboot as the loader and make an ISO image. the nanobsd procedure creates a ufs disk image from what I understand. Try mounting the disk image mdconfig -a -t vnode -u 11 -f /path/to/image/_.disk.full mkdir /mnt/image mount /dev/md11 /mnt/image (might be /dev/md11s1a or similar, see whats created and find what works.) Then make an ISO of the mounted nanobsd image mkisofs -J -R -no-emul-boot -b /boot/cdboot \ -iso-level 3 -o nanobsd.iso /mnt/image Then either burn it to CD or install qemu to see if it boots before making another coaster. I havent tried this exactly but this should work, may need polishing though. Vince J. Porter Clark wrote: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 06:54:45PM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote: >> >> J. Porter Clark wrote: >> | On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 04:40:25PM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote: >> |> J. Porter Clark wrote: >> |> | Is it possible to build a CD-ROM with a bootable NanoBSD on it? >> |> | If so, how? >> |> >> |> Yes, Section 2.2 of >> |> >> |> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/nanobsd/index.html >> | >> | Well, no, because I can't do this: >> | >> | # dd if=_.disk.full of=/dev/acd0 bs=64k >> | >> | If I do this: >> | >> | % cdrecord -v -immed driveropts=burnfree dev=1,0,0 -data _.disk.full >> >> Try with burncd >> >> | burncd -f /dev/acd0 data _.disk.full fixate > > No joy. Produces the same disk that cdrecord does, and boots > from hard disk instead. > > I think that this is the problem: The BIOS knows how to boot > from a CD if and only if that CD is an "El Torito" bootable > image. That is, the first sector of the CD is NOT a Master Boot > Record. That's just a hypothesis based on the observation that > all of the successfully bootable CDs I have appear to be in "El > Torito" format. > > I don't have a way to make such an image without using mkisofs. > Figuring out how to pack the nanobsd image in such a way that > mkisofs can make an "El Torito" bootable CD from it sounds > difficult, offhand. Anybody know how to do this sort of thing? > Is it even possible? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 14:00:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67354106566B for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:00:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB768FC0C for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:00:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5DDxC12001415; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:59:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5DDxCBI001412; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:59:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:59:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Vince Hoffman In-Reply-To: <48527B56.2050701@unsane.co.uk> Message-ID: <20080613155832.Y1390@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080612005453.GA26319@auricle.charter.net> <48513559.3000306@FreeBSD.org> <20080612153614.GA32605@auricle.charter.net> <485154D5.3060707@FreeBSD.org> <20080613132352.GA43591@auricle.charter.net> <48527B56.2050701@unsane.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "J. Porter Clark" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nanobsd on a CD-ROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:00:25 -0000 > Then make an ISO of the mounted nanobsd image > > mkisofs -J -R -no-emul-boot -b /boot/cdboot \ > -iso-level 3 -o nanobsd.iso /mnt/image i don't know if -J is needed (rather not), and -iso-level 3 too, but it is OK. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 14:00:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75AC81065689 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [206.29.77.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161A48FC23 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7AD5DDEBA; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:00:08 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ceI6T8WYR4GH; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:00:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from janus.daycos.com (janus.daycos.com [10.45.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 120875DDE67; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:00:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:00:03 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <200806121521.16237.kirk@strauser.com> In-Reply-To: X-Face: T+/_{qmjgbosI0J/e83I~w[&VF'w)!((xEpj///^bA/6?jHHS?nq+T8_+`nh"WnEWCWG, \}]Y2$)) =?utf-8?q?vLVz4ACChrEcb=7DCO=5EtYmMG=5C=0A=09ts=2Em=3F=5B7=5B6OwE*dAJ*9f+m?= =?utf-8?q?X=2E7R32qeN=5EDJ=5C?=(k@evW?IRQCy.^ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart9009478.pBsXDSiXXg"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200806130900.04230.kirk@strauser.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stripe sizes with gstripe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:00:40 -0000 --nextPart9009478.pBsXDSiXXg Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 12 June 2008, David Kelly wrote: > Apparently it won't read anything larger than your stripe size which > defaults to a miserable 4k. Ugh. It seems like there are a few possibilities here, and I'm not sure=20 which is actually true. Say you have two drives, striped. 1) Ideally, you could have a 512 byte stripe size. A program tries to read= =20 4KB. Then, gstripe would issue a single request to each drive to read 4=20 blocks and interleaves the results. 2) Less ideally, you'd have a 128KB stripe size. A program requests a=20 single block, but gstripe reads the entire stripe to fulfill the request. = =20 Not so hot for random access. 3) Worst, maybe? You have a 512 byte stripe. A program reads 4KB. gstrip= e=20 reads 512B from da0, then 512B from da1, then 512B from da0, etc. Actually, I guess you could also have a combination of #2 and #3, where=20 small reads fetch an entire stripe while large reads are broken into lots=20 of tiny ones. So, back to gstripe. Which of those is it most like? > If there is a tuning knob that I have missed, would appreciate being > told what. Pass it along, would ya? :-) Oh, and don't forget to make your partition offsets =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart9009478.pBsXDSiXXg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQBIUn1k5sRg+Y0CpvERAugsAJ45Zrb8PFmjEgllkqgC5LN4SrfliACeJS8q 3crRJeZbYwKEP7geX6PShdM= =KFNB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart9009478.pBsXDSiXXg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 14:01:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72588106573C for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:01:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC61B8FC0A for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 27249 invoked by uid 0); 13 Jun 2008 14:01:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (216.186.148.249) by smtp7.knology.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2008 14:01:30 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 29E0928429; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:01:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:01:30 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080613140130.GA8616@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <200806121521.16237.kirk@strauser.com> <20080613090714.K4713@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080613090714.K4713@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stripe sizes with gstripe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:01:32 -0000 On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 09:08:48AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>Does gstripe read an entire stripe at a time? If so, why do that instead > >>of > >>just reading a few requested blocks? If not, then is there any advantage > >>to large stripes? > > > >Apparently it won't read anything larger than your stripe size which > >defaults to a miserable 4k. > > > depending from what's needed, but unless i need just huge linear transfer, > i set stripe size to something huge, like 256MB. > > then single read is rarely split on 2 disks, while multiple reads have > good chances to touch different drives Come to think of it I didn't try setting the stripe size larger than the ATA max transaction size of 128k. Still, I don't understand what is going on when I use md5(1) on a gigabyte file hosted on a gstripe partition with 128k stripes that "systat -v" reports transactions are usually between 42k and 43k each? On a non-striped filesystem the same operation runs 126k to 127k transfers. Transfer bandwidth seems to be limited by the number of transactions per second more than the size of the transaction. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 14:06:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0388106564A for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:06:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3939C8FC1A for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:06:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from prawn.unsane.co.uk (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m5DE5hAa032970 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:05:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <48527EF6.4050207@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:06:46 +0100 From: Vince Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080609) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20080612005453.GA26319@auricle.charter.net> <48513559.3000306@FreeBSD.org> <20080612153614.GA32605@auricle.charter.net> <485154D5.3060707@FreeBSD.org> <20080613132352.GA43591@auricle.charter.net> <48527B56.2050701@unsane.co.uk> <20080613155832.Y1390@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080613155832.Y1390@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "J. Porter Clark" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nanobsd on a CD-ROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:06:49 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Then make an ISO of the mounted nanobsd image >> >> mkisofs -J -R -no-emul-boot -b /boot/cdboot \ >> -iso-level 3 -o nanobsd.iso /mnt/image > > i don't know if -J is needed (rather not), and -iso-level 3 too, but it > is OK. True, I just grabbed a command line I've used in the past., like I said, needs polishing. I'm building a nanobsd image at the moment to have a play (slow afternoon at work ;) Vince From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 14:10:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9343C1065672 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [206.29.77.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306538FC23 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11895DDE67; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:09:43 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h1ciCdgWl3ZO; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:09:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from janus.daycos.com (janus.daycos.com [10.45.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 45B6A5DCD39; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:09:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:09:37 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <200806121521.16237.kirk@strauser.com> <20080613090714.K4713@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080613140130.GA8616@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> In-Reply-To: <20080613140130.GA8616@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> X-Face: T+/_{qmjgbosI0J/e83I~w[&VF'w)!((xEpj///^bA/6?jHHS?nq+T8_+`nh"WnEWCWG, \}]Y2$)) =?utf-8?q?vLVz4ACChrEcb=7DCO=5EtYmMG=5C=0A=09ts=2Em=3F=5B7=5B6OwE*dAJ*9f+m?= =?utf-8?q?X=2E7R32qeN=5EDJ=5C?=(k@evW?IRQCy.^ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart12929735.IXnMKK0ORF"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200806130909.38419.kirk@strauser.com> Cc: Wojciech Puchar , David Kelly , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Stripe sizes with gstripe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:10:15 -0000 --nextPart12929735.IXnMKK0ORF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 13 June 2008, David Kelly wrote: > Still, I don't understand what is going on when I use md5(1) on a > gigabyte file hosted on a gstripe partition with 128k stripes that > "systat -v" reports transactions are usually between 42k and 43k each? Even more unlikely, why are *my* numbers almost identical to yours? Here's= =20 a snapshot of mine at this very second: Disks da0 da1 da2 da3 da4 KB/t 26.77 42.05 41.70 41.98 41.70 where da[1-4] are my gstripe providers with a 128KB stripe size. I find it= =20 unlikely that our workloads are so similar that we'd coincidentally have=20 almost the exact same values. =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart12929735.IXnMKK0ORF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQBIUn+i5sRg+Y0CpvERAr3yAJ9jFO/XlXFhF/e1IT7dOADYWR88hQCfS1zl 8bO3ccN5GO179KX9bcTDQug= =SGMB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart12929735.IXnMKK0ORF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 14:11:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2B31065683 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EE88FC27 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3945588wfg.7 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:11:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=gY14Vr9oHnp0kV8gIhQWEZw8nMuBZ7OfV4lEJwlCJGs=; b=dittziFNTPhc/a//aThtB9pBKrNQTJkGmvP3tVxHMuALTiPC09iTDsdpCXN7cDcymY liKC41HJwgh/NyaMR17d80nMMJXuO1sgKvF3QYbnIKnRpYTW6wMZYgLl71lJ8PwL5tLT V1vYMiK3NXzNl8MSlXR6emc8utgX+dB8pGzUo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=dHnFIBoLV6L20heyzvmpoLgkyDx/ncip5xPsCWQYaAAloEK04TRJkuWRTqR2jpVftG 0H836wXGZABIeOZNXmjzltK2j6eL/b7R2Dnh2Y7oPGHrTsK3r9RZZPOhXnSJWzDLV+Bc ItasQgeKKs4MweBqLxQKUsNEkm6AXhEgPIiiE= Received: by 10.142.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr1063869wfb.339.1213366263019; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.217.10 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:11:02 -0400 From: "Tsu-Fan Cheng" To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: amule eats up my swap!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:11:16 -0000 Hi all, I guess this is a rare issue, but "I think" my amule, when no upload limit, eats up my swap, and cause amule to crash. After I set limit to 10K, the mule runs fine. I have 1G ram and 2G swap, and without upload limit, amule crash very often. does anyone know what is going on?? thank you! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 14:11:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FEA11065670 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [206.29.77.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8EF8FC13 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:11:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6875DDE9F for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:05:30 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TPvNebXn+saC for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:05:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from janus.daycos.com (janus.daycos.com [10.45.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9E3265DDE7C for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:05:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:05:22 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <200806121521.16237.kirk@strauser.com> In-Reply-To: X-Face: T+/_{qmjgbosI0J/e83I~w[&VF'w)!((xEpj///^bA/6?jHHS?nq+T8_+`nh"WnEWCWG, \}]Y2$)) =?utf-8?q?vLVz4ACChrEcb=7DCO=5EtYmMG=5C=0A=09ts=2Em=3F=5B7=5B6OwE*dAJ*9f+m?= =?utf-8?q?X=2E7R32qeN=5EDJ=5C?=(k@evW?IRQCy.^ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1248446.CZiSuGQZQh"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200806130905.22663.kirk@strauser.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Stripe sizes with gstripe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:11:42 -0000 --nextPart1248446.CZiSuGQZQh Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 12 June 2008, you wrote: > If there is a tuning knob that I have missed, would appreciate being > told what. Dang it; hit "send" on accident. Anyway, should the partition offsets on your gstripe volume be a multiple o= f=20 the stripe size or of the filesystem's block size? =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart1248446.CZiSuGQZQh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQBIUn6i5sRg+Y0CpvERAgpvAJ0Thq9WLBLKNMp15bMyY7Yt+N3/DQCfY8JA nxzewJ86KMURaHk8hqhyKKc= =tk53 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1248446.CZiSuGQZQh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 14:16:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B0F1065683; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E22A8FC25; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5DEF6ru001562; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:15:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5DEF6Qj001559; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:15:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:15:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: David Kelly In-Reply-To: <20080613140130.GA8616@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Message-ID: <20080613161329.U1540@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200806121521.16237.kirk@strauser.com> <20080613090714.K4713@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080613140130.GA8616@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stripe sizes with gstripe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:16:17 -0000 >> then single read is rarely split on 2 disks, while multiple reads have >> good chances to touch different drives > > Come to think of it I didn't try setting the stripe size larger than the > ATA max transaction size of 128k. yes it is. max transaction doesn't begin on boundary. may (usually will) start somewhere inbetween. making stripe size >>max transaction makes it inprobable. BTW you mean ATA max transaction or FreeBSD default MAXBSIZE, which i change to 1MB From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 14:16:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B0F1065683; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E22A8FC25; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5DEF6ru001562; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:15:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5DEF6Qj001559; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:15:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:15:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: David Kelly In-Reply-To: <20080613140130.GA8616@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Message-ID: <20080613161329.U1540@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200806121521.16237.kirk@strauser.com> <20080613090714.K4713@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080613140130.GA8616@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stripe sizes with gstripe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:16:17 -0000 >> then single read is rarely split on 2 disks, while multiple reads have >> good chances to touch different drives > > Come to think of it I didn't try setting the stripe size larger than the > ATA max transaction size of 128k. yes it is. max transaction doesn't begin on boundary. may (usually will) start somewhere inbetween. making stripe size >>max transaction makes it inprobable. BTW you mean ATA max transaction or FreeBSD default MAXBSIZE, which i change to 1MB From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 14:16:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E986106566B for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:16:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [206.29.77.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB958FC27 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:16:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11895DDE67; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:09:43 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h1ciCdgWl3ZO; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:09:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from janus.daycos.com (janus.daycos.com [10.45.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 45B6A5DCD39; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:09:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:09:37 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <200806121521.16237.kirk@strauser.com> <20080613090714.K4713@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080613140130.GA8616@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> In-Reply-To: <20080613140130.GA8616@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> X-Face: T+/_{qmjgbosI0J/e83I~w[&VF'w)!((xEpj///^bA/6?jHHS?nq+T8_+`nh"WnEWCWG, \}]Y2$)) =?utf-8?q?vLVz4ACChrEcb=7DCO=5EtYmMG=5C=0A=09ts=2Em=3F=5B7=5B6OwE*dAJ*9f+m?= =?utf-8?q?X=2E7R32qeN=5EDJ=5C?=(k@evW?IRQCy.^ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart12929735.IXnMKK0ORF"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200806130909.38419.kirk@strauser.com> Cc: Wojciech Puchar , David Kelly , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Stripe sizes with gstripe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:16:43 -0000 --nextPart12929735.IXnMKK0ORF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 13 June 2008, David Kelly wrote: > Still, I don't understand what is going on when I use md5(1) on a > gigabyte file hosted on a gstripe partition with 128k stripes that > "systat -v" reports transactions are usually between 42k and 43k each? Even more unlikely, why are *my* numbers almost identical to yours? Here's= =20 a snapshot of mine at this very second: Disks da0 da1 da2 da3 da4 KB/t 26.77 42.05 41.70 41.98 41.70 where da[1-4] are my gstripe providers with a 128KB stripe size. I find it= =20 unlikely that our workloads are so similar that we'd coincidentally have=20 almost the exact same values. =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart12929735.IXnMKK0ORF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQBIUn+i5sRg+Y0CpvERAr3yAJ9jFO/XlXFhF/e1IT7dOADYWR88hQCfS1zl 8bO3ccN5GO179KX9bcTDQug= =SGMB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart12929735.IXnMKK0ORF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 14:16:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18EF81065670 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:16:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [206.29.77.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E018FC2C for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:16:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7AD5DDEBA; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:00:08 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ceI6T8WYR4GH; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:00:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from janus.daycos.com (janus.daycos.com [10.45.12.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 120875DDE67; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:00:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:00:03 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <200806121521.16237.kirk@strauser.com> In-Reply-To: X-Face: T+/_{qmjgbosI0J/e83I~w[&VF'w)!((xEpj///^bA/6?jHHS?nq+T8_+`nh"WnEWCWG, \}]Y2$)) =?utf-8?q?vLVz4ACChrEcb=7DCO=5EtYmMG=5C=0A=09ts=2Em=3F=5B7=5B6OwE*dAJ*9f+m?= =?utf-8?q?X=2E7R32qeN=5EDJ=5C?=(k@evW?IRQCy.^ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart9009478.pBsXDSiXXg"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200806130900.04230.kirk@strauser.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stripe sizes with gstripe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:16:43 -0000 --nextPart9009478.pBsXDSiXXg Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 12 June 2008, David Kelly wrote: > Apparently it won't read anything larger than your stripe size which > defaults to a miserable 4k. Ugh. It seems like there are a few possibilities here, and I'm not sure=20 which is actually true. Say you have two drives, striped. 1) Ideally, you could have a 512 byte stripe size. A program tries to read= =20 4KB. Then, gstripe would issue a single request to each drive to read 4=20 blocks and interleaves the results. 2) Less ideally, you'd have a 128KB stripe size. A program requests a=20 single block, but gstripe reads the entire stripe to fulfill the request. = =20 Not so hot for random access. 3) Worst, maybe? You have a 512 byte stripe. A program reads 4KB. gstrip= e=20 reads 512B from da0, then 512B from da1, then 512B from da0, etc. Actually, I guess you could also have a combination of #2 and #3, where=20 small reads fetch an entire stripe while large reads are broken into lots=20 of tiny ones. So, back to gstripe. Which of those is it most like? > If there is a tuning knob that I have missed, would appreciate being > told what. Pass it along, would ya? :-) Oh, and don't forget to make your partition offsets =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart9009478.pBsXDSiXXg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQBIUn1k5sRg+Y0CpvERAugsAJ45Zrb8PFmjEgllkqgC5LN4SrfliACeJS8q 3crRJeZbYwKEP7geX6PShdM= =KFNB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart9009478.pBsXDSiXXg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 14:16:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FA81065670; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00528FC1F; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:16:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5DEFkDV001581; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:15:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5DEFk1m001578; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:15:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:15:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: David Kelly In-Reply-To: <20080613140130.GA8616@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Message-ID: <20080613161521.N1540@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200806121521.16237.kirk@strauser.com> <20080613090714.K4713@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080613140130.GA8616@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stripe sizes with gstripe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:16:56 -0000 > > Still, I don't understand what is going on when I use md5(1) on a > gigabyte file hosted on a gstripe partition with 128k stripes that > "systat -v" reports transactions are usually between 42k and 43k each? because every single 128kB reads is CROSSING 128kB boundary? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 14:16:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FA81065670; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00528FC1F; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:16:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5DEFkDV001581; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:15:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5DEFk1m001578; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:15:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:15:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: David Kelly In-Reply-To: <20080613140130.GA8616@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Message-ID: <20080613161521.N1540@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200806121521.16237.kirk@strauser.com> <20080613090714.K4713@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080613140130.GA8616@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stripe sizes with gstripe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:16:56 -0000 > > Still, I don't understand what is going on when I use md5(1) on a > gigabyte file hosted on a gstripe partition with 128k stripes that > "systat -v" reports transactions are usually between 42k and 43k each? because every single 128kB reads is CROSSING 128kB boundary? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 14:21:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1680010657E4 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bkoenig@alpha-tierchen.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11468FC23 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:21:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bkoenig@alpha-tierchen.de) Received: from webmail.alpha-tierchen.de (port-212-202-42-199.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.42.199]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E9716C02D7; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:50:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 192.168.1.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bkoenig) by webmail.alpha-tierchen.de with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:50:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <61211.192.168.1.2.1213365027.squirrel@webmail.alpha-tierchen.de> In-Reply-To: <20080613132352.GA43591@auricle.charter.net> References: <20080612005453.GA26319@auricle.charter.net> <48513559.3000306@FreeBSD.org> <20080612153614.GA32605@auricle.charter.net> <485154D5.3060707@FreeBSD.org> <20080613132352.GA43591@auricle.charter.net> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:50:27 +0200 (CEST) From: "Bjoern Koenig" To: "J. Porter Clark" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nanobsd on a CD-ROM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:21:22 -0000 J. Porter Clark wrote: > I don't have a way to make such an image without using mkisofs. > Figuring out how to pack the nanobsd image in such a way that > mkisofs can make an "El Torito" bootable CD from it sounds > difficult, offhand. Anybody know how to do this sort of thing? > Is it even possible? Yes, of course this is possible. Think of the the FreeBSD installation images that boot from CD too. I did this already with a custom distribution, but I don't remember the steps right now. /boot/cdboot is the boot code that should do this. Take a look at /usr/src/release/i386/mkisoimages.sh. Björn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 14:28:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB231065687 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:28:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371D58FC23 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 27249 invoked by uid 0); 13 Jun 2008 14:01:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (216.186.148.249) by smtp7.knology.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2008 14:01:30 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 29E0928429; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:01:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:01:30 -0500 From: David Kelly To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080613140130.GA8616@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <200806121521.16237.kirk@strauser.com> <20080613090714.K4713@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080613090714.K4713@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stripe sizes with gstripe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:28:12 -0000 On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 09:08:48AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>Does gstripe read an entire stripe at a time? If so, why do that instead > >>of > >>just reading a few requested blocks? If not, then is there any advantage > >>to large stripes? > > > >Apparently it won't read anything larger than your stripe size which > >defaults to a miserable 4k. > > > depending from what's needed, but unless i need just huge linear transfer, > i set stripe size to something huge, like 256MB. > > then single read is rarely split on 2 disks, while multiple reads have > good chances to touch different drives Come to think of it I didn't try setting the stripe size larger than the ATA max transaction size of 128k. Still, I don't understand what is going on when I use md5(1) on a gigabyte file hosted on a gstripe partition with 128k stripes that "systat -v" reports transactions are usually between 42k and 43k each? On a non-striped filesystem the same operation runs 126k to 127k transfers. Transfer bandwidth seems to be limited by the number of transactions per second more than the size of the transaction. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 16:55:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684BA1065670 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:55:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-143.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-143.bluehost.com [67.222.38.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F6F18FC18 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 28404 invoked by uid 0); 13 Jun 2008 16:55:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 13 Jun 2008 16:55:53 -0000 Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K7CZ5-0005Yz-3R for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:55:51 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:51:19 -0600 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:51:19 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080613165119.GA31171@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> <20080611211821.GB25793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> <20080612113725.J4402@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4851B872.2090101@onetel.com> <20080613110158.K86321@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080613110158.K86321@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} DomainKey-Status: no signature Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:55:55 -0000 --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:02:51AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >It depends how much of a hacker you are. If you want out-of-the-box and= =20 > >you don't mind kde then choose between pcbsd or desktopbsd. If you want= =20 > >out-of-the-box and gnome I think you are out of luck. If you don't mind= =20 > >diy FreeBSD is your toolbox. >=20 > if you want out of the box "cool desktop" use Windows, because it's a=20 > system made for this. Is this meant to be trolling? For glitzy, bells-and-whistles desktop featuritis, I find that open source Unix-like OSes actually do better in general than MS Windows Vista and even MacOS X (though at least with MacOS X you can install the X Window System and get much the same functionality that you can with a Linux distribution or BSD Unix system): http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=3D335 For actual productivity-enhancement, assuming you're a highly competent computer user, I'd recommend against any of the GUI systems discussed at that URL, and stick to window managers that just stay the heck out of your way. Good candidates include things like wmii, AHWM, Fluxbox, and Sawfish. Most people seem to prefer something between the two, however. If someone wanted a "cool" desktop "experience", though, MS Windows is about the last place I'd send 'em. Well, okay, maybe I'd send someone there before OpenVMS, but that's kind of getting far afield. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Marvin Minsky: "It's just incredible that a trillion-synapse computer could actually spend Saturday afternoon watching a football game." --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhSpYUACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWKpQCfQl0oo09o9ARrfvjBmwOdzdEl XlgAoL8IiBjuqp0084lk43EZTuEpemmQ =nD6C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 17:02:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 8F1C11065675; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20080613170200.8F1C11065675@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:02:00 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/me@me.org (obviously, substitute your mail address for "me@me.org"). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? ========================================= Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.6 2005/08/10 02:21:44 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 17:02:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 94CCC1065678; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20080613170200.94CCC1065678@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:02:00 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Note also that the book has now been released for free download in PDF form. Instead of downloading the changed pages, you may prefer to download the entire book. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ for more information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm no longer constantly updating it, but I may be able to help Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 17:10:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC35A1065676 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd2mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FA78FC12 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd2mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr3so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.108]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0K2E00EYMVO5PP80@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:09:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml5so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.149]) by pd2mr3so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0K2E00DPXVO4OO20@pd2mr3so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:09:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from gom.home ([70.67.160.176]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0K2E0079WVLU6H60@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:08:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from gom.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gom.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A94B839 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:08:11 -0700 From: prad In-reply-to: <20080613165119.GA31171@kokopelli.hydra> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20080613100811.0fb23892@gom.home> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> <20080611211821.GB25793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> <20080612113725.J4402@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4851B872.2090101@onetel.com> <20080613110158.K86321@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080613165119.GA31171@kokopelli.hydra> Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:10:05 -0000 On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:51:19 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: > For actual productivity-enhancement, assuming you're a highly > competent computer user, I'd recommend against any of the GUI systems > discussed at that URL, and stick to window managers that just stay > the heck out of your way. Good candidates include things like wmii, > AHWM, Fluxbox, and Sawfish. > the thing with windoze is that you don't have a choice - in fact, until recently you couldn't even have multiple desktops. with *nix and the creativity inspired by open source there are many, many opportunities. i've been using ion for about a year having tried and liked kde, gnome, fluxbox, even plwm and many others. rather than merely playing with some personal options here and there to customize it, you can actually make your desktop choice to the way you work -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 17:13:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3650B1065671 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emss@free.fr) Received: from maiev.nerim.net (maiev.ipv6.nerim.net [IPv6:2001:7a8:1:1::89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E478FC17 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:13:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emss@free.fr) Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (kisoft.net1.nerim.net [62.212.107.51]) by maiev.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32508B81A9 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:13:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D00170F4 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:13:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at interne.kisoft-services.com Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Onb8bp0mV11s for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:13:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: by srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 982A4171EF; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:13:37 +0200 (CEST) To: Mailing List FreeBSD Questions From: Eric Masson X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p1 i386 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:13:37 +0200 Message-ID: <86wskti7ge.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.5-b28 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: [6.3] watch(8) & tty capture X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:13:43 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to capture trafic beetween vgetty and an Olitec modem on a FreeBSD 6.3 box. I've loaded snp(4) via kldload and watch -co /dev/ttyd2 only captures traffic sent from vgetty to the modem, not its responses. Am I missing something trivial or is it a known behaviour ? TIA. Regards -- J'ai essayé de creer un news un alt.west.virginia ou sur d'autres alt.west.wirginia.xxx mais quand je vais sur ces forums rien n'apparait? l'emetteur d'un new recoit il un avertissement si celui ci est censuré? -+- LM in: - Bien sansurer ses news sur C-I -+- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 17:19:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438FA106564A for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6DC8FC29 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (ip224.carlyle.sfo.ygnition.net [24.219.144.224]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m5DHJ4bD078312 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4852AC08.3000109@rawbw.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:19:04 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Is Skype voice calling working for anyone? I get "Call failed: problem with audio playback" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:19:05 -0000 Googling didn't help. Maybe anyone here would know. Any time I am trying to make a call I get: "Call failed: problem with audio playback" I use Skype port which is 2.0.0.68 with OSS on 70-STABLE. I use the following device: $ cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0xdc00 irq 17 kld snd_emu10k1 [MPSAFE] (4p:1v/2r:1v channels duplex default) It works, sound plays fine. I tried a different sound card and got the same problem with Skype. Anybody is able to use voice calling through Skype? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 18:03:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761171065674 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:03:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@qemg.org) Received: from post.queensu.ca (post.QueensU.CA [130.15.126.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3527D8FC17 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:03:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@qemg.org) Received: from U48.N136.QueensU.CA (U48.N136.QueensU.CA [130.15.136.48]) by post.queensu.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5DHjAuZ003662 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:45:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:47:00 -0300 (ADT) From: "A. Hamilton-Wright" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (BSF 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Running with a readonly root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:03:29 -0000 As devfs is running by default, it seems to me that it would be relatively easy to run with a readonly root partition, assuming that the directories under which writing is necessary (ie; /tmp, /var, /home) are located in separate, writable partitions. The main advantages are that none of the configuration files or binaries in /etc and /usr (which may still be on a separate readonly partition) are vulnerable to attack (even from a local privilege escalation) without remounting the partition as writable. This used to be a very common setup in the *NIX world, so I am surprised to find little to no mention of it in the archives. I set up my machine this way a couple of months back, and have noticed some minor things (some few things assume a writable /etc, notably including dump(8), and the boot process update to /etc/motd). Once these have been rectified by relocating the files and setting up symlinks, there have been no problems. My questions are: - does anyone else do this? - if not, why not? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 18:26:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AEF106564A for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:26:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mister.olli@googlemail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE2D8FC17 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mister.olli@googlemail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q2so135783uge.37 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:26:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:reply-to:to :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ihben7LQBpudYbMeEYfKtunMYXyT3v2ddolw671ZMz0=; b=epnWuCh+n6uQzqAeVU27U6H4JHxfAbT9SIy5tViYLmYwBF+zW84Zm8HrnKgeVoj/W9 vyv7V0rKOTMQdSL2EWh2g7DW9xqKmPbZK9g0Uw15jNKm5bRuzPottDjOsvXUxmY1VBZf 6wSyeEoIHANGNcrfEbkXa0T7v9+7hlSuzm4/Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:reply-to:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=UpjAsqr+cbV3FJU01BilQ7xGSa4y9ao94n8/8psKnKjUNKlYl9XneCpTYSv/QQ913S M4LRrCKVo2yrIW0ge8ysThF0gHLJ3r7Lg6wCz326QGVN/aDYKcZtytlRGZ2mqf8YYWuh QTFXgP2/UKBJwGIAPaiG4rvCr8Rg0HPvG3hJ4= Received: by 10.67.40.15 with SMTP id s15mr1408047ugj.53.1213381593669; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.30.1.184? ( [78.47.172.52]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 18sm1978578ugk.44.2008.06.13.11.26.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:26:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Mister Olli To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:26:20 +0200 Message-Id: <1213381580.6398.145.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Running with a readonly root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mister.olli@googlemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:26:35 -0000 hi... do you have some kind of installation/setup manual? that would be really interesting to see your steps, and try that myself. I have some questions too: - how do you handle updates/ installation of new software? - how do you prevent someone who hacked the machine to remount '/' as writable - how do users update theirs passwords when '/etc' is read-only? greetz olli Am Freitag, den 13.06.2008, 14:47 -0300 schrieb A. Hamilton-Wright: > As devfs is running by default, it seems to me that > it would be relatively easy to run with a readonly > root partition, assuming that the directories under > which writing is necessary (ie; /tmp, /var, /home) > are located in separate, writable partitions. > > The main advantages are that none of the configuration > files or binaries in /etc and /usr (which may still > be on a separate readonly partition) are vulnerable > to attack (even from a local privilege escalation) > without remounting the partition as writable. > > This used to be a very common setup in the *NIX > world, so I am surprised to find little to no mention > of it in the archives. > > I set up my machine this way a couple of months back, > and have noticed some minor things (some few things > assume a writable /etc, notably including dump(8), > and the boot process update to /etc/motd). Once these > have been rectified by relocating the files and setting > up symlinks, there have been no problems. > > My questions are: > - does anyone else do this? > - if not, why not? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 18:29:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76666106568D for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:29:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A9B8FC0A for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5DISN96002772; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:28:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5DISNqM002769; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:28:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:28:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "A. Hamilton-Wright" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080613202642.D2744@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running with a readonly root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:29:37 -0000 > > As devfs is running by default, it seems to me that > it would be relatively easy to run with a readonly > root partition, assuming that the directories under > which writing is necessary (ie; /tmp, /var, /home) > are located in separate, writable partitions. yes. > The main advantages are that none of the configuration > files or binaries in /etc and /usr (which may still /etc is rather writable - for example when user changes password. > be on a separate readonly partition) are vulnerable > and the boot process update to /etc/motd). Once these > have been rectified by relocating the files and setting > up symlinks, there have been no problems. > > My questions are: > - does anyone else do this? no that - but i do this on my liveDVD > - if not, why not? if you will set securelevel to prevent umounts - it may add much to the security. but - the same time - you'll have to reboot system to change anything! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 18:32:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4000106566B for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:32:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE3C8FC17 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:32:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5DIVfoB002798; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:31:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5DIVfs4002795; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:31:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:31:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: prad In-Reply-To: <20080613100811.0fb23892@gom.home> Message-ID: <20080613202844.P2744@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> <20080611211821.GB25793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> <20080612113725.J4402@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4851B872.2090101@onetel.com> <20080613110158.K86321@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080613165119.GA31171@kokopelli.hydra> <20080613100811.0fb23892@gom.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:32:52 -0000 >> > the thing with windoze is that you don't have a choice - in fact, until > recently you couldn't even have multiple desktops. it's OK. users that REQUIRE lots of graphics etc.. don't usually make use of it. so what's wrong with windoze. right software for the right people. > with *nix and the creativity inspired by open source there are many, > many opportunities. in unix - as you say - you have a choice in every place. so that's good that "desktop usage" isn't "improved" in FreeBSD as this improvement == lack of choice. for those who don't like to "hack the system", just have everything just put up and ready to use, there is already windows! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 18:51:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD14106566B for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:51:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@qemg.org) Received: from post.queensu.ca (post.QueensU.CA [130.15.126.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A988FC0C for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:51:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@qemg.org) Received: from U48.N136.QueensU.CA (U48.N136.QueensU.CA [130.15.136.48]) by post.queensu.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5DIpSbG013345; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:53:18 -0300 (ADT) From: Andrew Wright To: Mister Olli In-Reply-To: <1213381580.6398.145.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> Message-ID: References: <1213381580.6398.145.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (BSF 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running with a readonly root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:51:36 -0000 On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Mister Olli wrote: > do you have some kind of installation/setup manual? > that would be really interesting to see your steps, and try that myself. There aren't very many steps: - install as per normal, but with the following on separate partitions: /, /tmp, /var Most people usually put /usr on a separate partition too, as it makes software updates easier DO NOT put /etc on a separate partition, or you will have an unbootable system - make a directory /var/etc (or other similar location in the writable portion of your filesystem) - copy the necessary files to /var/etc and create symlinks in /etc of the form ../var/etc/ The files I have done this for are dumpdates and motd Other files may be required if you run other daemons; I experimented with denyhosts, and therefore had hosts.allow there for a while - update /etc/fstab to have 'ro' instead of 'rw' for / and /usr - reboot or run mount -u -r / ; mount -u -r /usr if you want to test whether things are working, just run mount and see whether things are ok for a while before updating /etc/fstab -- then any major panics can be solved with a reboot. > I have some questions too: > - how do you handle updates/ installation of new software? By remounting before doing updates. I don't do updates that often, so this is not a problem for me. > - how do you prevent someone who hacked the machine to remount '/' as > writable You don't; at least not this simply. The main advantages of this strategy are protection against (a) accidental changes by root users and (b) trojans, scripts and other naive rootkits. Like most security ideas, it is simply a single step along the way, and the usual rule applies -- anyone who actually has root has the privileges to damage the system to any extent they like. > - how do users update theirs passwords when '/etc' is read-only? This is a larger problem, and one I had forgotten about as the machine in question is a firewall/datashare that doesn't have many users. Things should work fine if you are running yp or similar from another machine; alternatively a password update script can be written to either (a) do the remount to allow updating on the fly, or (b) queue the update until a regular remount+update cycle (as many large shops do). Certainly not a one-size fits all solution for everyone, but I remain curious as to why this technique has fallen out of favour. Perhaps it is this weakness with local passwords that has caused most people to give up the (relatively small) security advantages in favour of simplicity? Andrew. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 19:47:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C19106567E for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:47:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from netuno.levier.com.br (netuno.levier.com.br [201.47.3.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1C18FC0C for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:47:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from levier.com.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netuno.levier.com.br (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m5DA11h4032086; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:47:10 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (levier.com.br) Received: from [192.168.32.172] (authenticated as lenzi) by levier.com.br (MessageWall 1.0.8) with SMTP; 13 Jun 2008 19:47:10 -0000 From: sergio lenzi To: Dennis Kirschling , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <7CA15F547C84C148999461D49C8E710A0FBB17@pct01.PCT.local> References: <7CA15F547C84C148999461D49C8E710A0FBB17@pct01.PCT.local> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:46:42 -0300 Message-Id: <1213386402.1439.13.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:47:13 -0000 Helllo.... I understand your problem (I was once a SCO user/programmer....) well the easy way is: a disk of 20GB miminum... 1) Install FreeBSD 7.0 RELEASE (choose your favorite lay out...) that is /root, /var,swap, /usr in diferent slices.... swap is about 2Gb... (later will hold the /tmp) /root is 512M... /var is 8Gb (or more ..) /usr the rest of the disk.... 2) during the installation process do not forget to set up the ethernet, dns... and install docs, kernel sources, and PORTS 3) once the machine boots, and is in internet, setup the timezone using tzsetup, fix the time using ntpdate -t 10 pool.ntp.org... (this is important....) 4) update the ports with portsnap fetch update ..... 5) install some shell with pkg_add -r bash 6) create a super user named admin or whaterver you want.... echo PASSSSWORD | pw adduser admin -o -u 0 -g wheel -s /usr/local/bin/bash -h 0 7) logout and login as admin.... 8) go to the /usr/ports/www/apache22 and type make package, The system will build your apache for you.... 9) put "apache22_enable=YES" in /etc/rc.conf, start it with the command /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22 start. Your are done.... There are 18600 ports you may want to try..... I use the 64 bits FreeBSD... is very stable and incredible fast..... Sergio > > Hi. > > > > I have a wealth of experience with SCO products, but I have to admit I > am stumped with BSD and specifically upgrading a customers Apache from > 2.0.55 to 2.0.63 on BSD 5.4. I have downloaded the product, unsipped > it and extracted the tar volume. Where do I go from here?. I have read > many articles until I'm blue in the face. > > > > Any help would be appreciated! > > > > > > > > Dennis Kirschling > > Office 916 714-1002 > > Cell 916 825-3737 > > drk@pcomptech.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 20:05:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573F61065675 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from mail.skiltech.com (bunning.skiltech.com [65.36.251.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C06A8FC13 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:05:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DBCA25BE26 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:49:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at skiltech.com Received: from mail.skiltech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bunning.skiltech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ImyZPpdI7AON for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:49:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.1.68] (unknown [206.145.250.193]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2648F25BDBA for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:49:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4852CF49.2000304@cwis.biz> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:49:29 -0500 From: Ryan Coleman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Intermittent -- yet regular -- v6.3 kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:05:49 -0000 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1; apic id = 01 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address = 0x0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code = supervisor read, page not present Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x20:0x0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer = 0x28:0xec0ea8e0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: frame pointer = 0x28:0xec0ea8e4 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: current process = 925 (cp) Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number = 12 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 1h21m59s Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined. This is a regular occurrence, but varies by source. Brand new fBSD 6.3 machine, what more information do I need to provide? Wednesday it was crashed by *pagedaemon* and about 15 hours earlier by *g_down*. This is the only record - thus far - to hit the syslog. Also it crashed twice today and has not recorded I have an 8x1TB RAID5 on a HighPoint Tech RocketRaid, the primary drive is a 1TB drive partitioned three times. / 30G, 4G swap and the rest is /usr. Please advise -- Ryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 20:05:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71610106566C for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from mail.skiltech.com (bunning.skiltech.com [65.36.251.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF998FC0C for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:05:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA6725BD3C for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:57:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at skiltech.com Received: from mail.skiltech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bunning.skiltech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HuhvHQwufvjB for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.1.68] (unknown [206.145.250.193]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id CA10A25BC4E for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4852D13C.3000108@cwis.biz> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:57:48 -0500 From: Ryan Coleman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4852CF49.2000304@cwis.biz> In-Reply-To: <4852CF49.2000304@cwis.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Intermittent -- yet regular -- v6.3 kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:05:49 -0000 It just happened again: Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1; apic id = 01 Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address = 0x0 Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code = supervisor read, page not present Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x20:0x0 Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer = 0x28:0xec0738e0 Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: frame pointer = 0x28:0xec0738e4 Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: current process = 1385 (cp) Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number = 12 Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1 Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 4h54m13s Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined. Ryan Coleman wrote: > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in > kernel mode > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1; apic id = 01 > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address = 0x0 > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code = supervisor > read, page not present > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x20:0x0 > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer = 0x28:0xec0ea8e0 > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: frame pointer = 0x28:0xec0ea8e4 > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: code segment = base 0x0, > limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags = interrupt > enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: current process = 925 (cp) > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number = 12 > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1 > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 1h21m59s > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined. > > > This is a regular occurrence, but varies by source. Brand new fBSD 6.3 > machine, what more information do I need to provide? > > Wednesday it was crashed by *pagedaemon* and about 15 hours earlier by > *g_down*. This is the only record - thus far - to hit the syslog. Also > it crashed twice today and has not recorded > > I have an 8x1TB RAID5 on a HighPoint Tech RocketRaid, the primary > drive is a 1TB drive partitioned three times. / 30G, 4G swap and the > rest is /usr. > > Please advise > -- > Ryan > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 20:57:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297621065687 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whitelist.augustin@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com (hu-out-0506.google.com [72.14.214.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59048FC1D for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whitelist.augustin@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 34so6172078hue.8 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:57:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=og/ERIg++v/BSRdt/nlGJ6FXxdheIMQyf76I1Bl+lB0=; b=kL+D1LSln4Ta5iQDV4T+sBzs36VdN354JN7L2YqeJ6dWXJ0X/V9lCOsw2ZAreVpe89 sC5EQal3QVsscQEcSpkUTm0EHnT8DPOQ9ef6nsO6heaV15i10juT2adtCGuuVuFtE124 iGXfv4GNt1rqIP77uApfn4bg/81fbrpMg4THo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=PexBPJZi8FINH06Ly4Pj+ByBH8Z0WNuBGzNJg8PyHwLtjiUZ1KQrw6oH+7ncmxlgzO k/ys/KcEg9qBYuPeJN9iOJUbkUTAXfVPzLYEf+lX9JxHBAimsuFt4Io/nMlUOJzgMXDK yaT1C/yp7QXZmTsd35XxnQQ4OeTCKao9XHHTY= Received: by 10.103.203.4 with SMTP id f4mr156088muq.8.1213389666892; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.125.47.13 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:41:06 -0700 From: "white list" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Samba on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:57:16 -0000 Hello ALL, I want to install Samba on FreeBSD 7.0 from ports collection. when i cd to /usr/ports/net/samba3 make config LDAP ADS and many more options to enable with samba with ADS server 2008 What would like to know which options will best work with ADS Windows Server 2008? suggestions are welcome and appreciate. Thanks in advance to all, - Augustin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 20:59:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142CE106564A for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:59:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E938FC14 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:59:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from janh.freebsd (f054098053.adsl.alicedsl.de [78.54.98.53]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKwh2-1K7GMy2gB2-0004Bq; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:59:37 +0200 Message-ID: <4852DFB6.2050708@janh.de> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:59:34 +0200 From: Jan Henrik Sylvester User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yuri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19YlUT3EW+L1QdAL45q5t/j9B43f8UFOZJM2F1 lcHUHdqt7Lw89OHpKr7PTE1+kpPKLLLqu2Zt6YfXnWfstP3mxa D4TfBxatGeUpDZCECQW1g== Cc: questions-list freebsd Subject: Re: Is Skype voice calling working for anyone? I get "Call failed: problem with audio playback" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:59:49 -0000 Yuri wrote: > Any time I am trying to make a call I get: "Call failed: problem with > audio playback" Did you read /usr/ports/UPDATING (20080318)? You should upgrade to compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 with linux_base-fc6. Maybe you might want to read the thread "linux 2.6 on 7.0-RELEASE" on freebsd-emulation first. First one this month: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-emulation/2008-June/thread.html I get the same error message with compat.linux.osrelease=2.4.2 (fc-4). Changing to the totally unsupported compat.linux.osrelease=2.4.20, skype seems to work. As far as I understood, this is just luck, because 2.4.2 is the only supported 2.4 version and 2.6.16 the only (experimentally) supported 2.6 version. (Other Linux syscalls are not implemented.) Unsurprisingly, I can reproducibly crash googleearth with 2.4.20, while it runs fine with 2.4.2 -- 2.4.20 really only helps skype. For me, running evil skype in an unsupported setting is acceptable. Cheers, Jan Henrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 21:11:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75FF9106566B for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6B08FC12 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5DLAf94091441; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:10:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080613160758.025094b8@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:10:34 -0500 To: Edward Lay , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <200806130614.m5D6EZhu011974@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu> References: <200806130614.m5D6EZhu011974@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/6806/Wed Apr 16 15:50:16 2008 on betty.computinginnovations.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: m5DLAf94091441 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Unable to reach hosts outside my subnet after initial install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:11:11 -0000 At 01:14 AM 6/13/2008, Edward Lay wrote: >After a fresh installation of freeBSD 7.0, I am unable to communicate >with any hosts beyond the local subnet. All important values >(gateway, netmask,etc) were copied from other unix hosts on the same >subnet. Presumably I've either failed to include something important >or there is a conflict. Details follow... > >thanks for any assistance, > >ed Check and/or create /etc/nsswitch.conf so you are looking in files and dns for hosts. Check or create /etc/resolv.conf make sure your upsteam DNS servers are listed in this file along with any local caching DNS servers. -Derek >%uname -a >FreeBSD newdewey.soe.berkeley.edu 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: >Sun Feb 24 > 19:59:52 UTC 2008 >root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERICi386 > > > >here's the current net config: > >newdewey# ifconfig >xl0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=9 > ether 00:01:02:c1:b6:fb > inet 128.32.157.5 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 128.32.157.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active >plip0: flags=108810 metric 0 mtu >1500 >lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 > inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 > inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 > inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 > > >Here's the contents of /etc/rc.conf: > >newdewey# more rc.conf > ># -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Thu May 22 21:45:55 2008 ># Created: Thu May 22 21:45:55 2008 ># Enable network daemons for user convenience. ># Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf. ># This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf. >defaultrouter="128.32.157.1" >hostname="newdewey.soe.berkeley.edu" >ifconfig_xl0="inet 128.32.157.5 netmask 255.255.255.0" >inetd_enable="YES" >linux_enable="YES" ># -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Tue May 27 19:42:16 2008 >router_flags="-q" >router="/sbin/routed" >router_enable="YES" > > > >%netstat -r >Routing tables > >Internet: >Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif >Expire >default fast2-2.inr-240-mu UGS 0 1088 xl0 >localhost localhost UH 0 905 lo0 >128.32.157.0 link#1 UC 0 0 xl0 >fast2-2.inr-240-mu 00:0c:86:7a:75:c0 UHLW 2 0 xl0 >1197 >dewey 08:00:2b:86:6e:ca UHLW 1 77 xl0 >1144 >tolman-18.LIPS.Ber 00:0a:95:b1:e7:fe UHLW 1 0 xl0 > > > Finally, the current situation is that I can ping hosts on the 128.32.157.* >subnet, but not anything beyond. > >newdewey# ping google.com >PING google.com (64.233.187.99): 56 data bytes >^C >--- google.com ping statistics --- >5 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss >newdewey# ping dewey.soe.berkeley.edu >PING dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (128.32.157.3): 56 data bytes >64 bytes from 128.32.157.3: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.360 ms >64 bytes from 128.32.157.3: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.320 ms >^C >--- dewey.soe.berkeley.edu ping statistics --- >2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0.0% packet loss >round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.320/0.340/0.360/0.020 ms > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 21:14:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EE9106564A for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from mail.skiltech.com (bunning.skiltech.com [65.36.251.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CCD28FC16 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0AB525BDF8; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:14:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at skiltech.com Received: from mail.skiltech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bunning.skiltech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id guq37Rs4Oskb; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.1.68] (unknown [206.145.250.193]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 770EA25BDDE; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4852E325.7090901@cwis.biz> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:14:13 -0500 From: Ryan Coleman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Cran References: <4852CF49.2000304@cwis.biz> <20080613215908.25d71e6e@tau> In-Reply-To: <20080613215908.25d71e6e@tau> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intermittent -- yet regular -- v6.3 kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:14:16 -0000 I will attempt to do this and report back when it happens again. Bruce Cran wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:49:29 -0500 > Ryan Coleman wrote: > > >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in >> kernel mode >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1; apic id = 01 >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address = 0x0 >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code = supervisor >> read, page not present >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x20:0x0 >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer = >> 0x28:0xec0ea8e0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: frame >> pointer = 0x28:0xec0ea8e4 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: >> code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags = interrupt >> enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: current process = 925 (cp) >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number = 12 >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1 >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 1h21m59s >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined. >> >> >> This is a regular occurrence, but varies by source. Brand new fBSD >> 6.3 machine, what more information do I need to provide? >> > > To be of any use we need a backtrace. See > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html > for details. First you need to configure a dump device then when > the system crashes a crash dump will be written to /var/crash by > default. You then run kgdb on the file to get the backtrace. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 21:21:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508031065674 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:21:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [80.68.94.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95388FC0C for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:21:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from tau (tau.demon.co.uk [80.177.26.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D662030120; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:59:18 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:59:08 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Ryan Coleman Message-ID: <20080613215908.25d71e6e@tau> In-Reply-To: <4852CF49.2000304@cwis.biz> References: <4852CF49.2000304@cwis.biz> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/LFYfShDaoTJyD=dWb/8VWF9"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intermittent -- yet regular -- v6.3 kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:21:59 -0000 --Sig_/LFYfShDaoTJyD=dWb/8VWF9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:49:29 -0500 Ryan Coleman wrote: > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in=20 > kernel mode > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid =3D 1; apic id =3D 01 > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address =3D 0x0 > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code =3D supervisor=20 > read, page not present > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer =3D 0x20:0x0 > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer =3D > 0x28:0xec0ea8e0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: frame > pointer =3D 0x28:0xec0ea8e4 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: > code segment =3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: =3D DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags =3D interrupt=20 > enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0 > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: current process =3D 925 (cp) > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number =3D 12 > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid =3D 1 > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 1h21m59s > Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined. >=20 >=20 > This is a regular occurrence, but varies by source. Brand new fBSD > 6.3 machine, what more information do I need to provide? To be of any use we need a backtrace. See=20 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html for details. First you need to configure a dump device then when the system crashes a crash dump will be written to /var/crash by default. You then run kgdb on the file to get the backtrace. --=20 Bruce Cran --Sig_/LFYfShDaoTJyD=dWb/8VWF9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIUt+kn4uvqcJsLfgRAjX3AJ9nlV6dRofVMzKu4rYrtUAsB0X11ACfUfZv wduvrz9XeLZjiYMXbcruvSI= =Vce2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/LFYfShDaoTJyD=dWb/8VWF9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 22:16:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8AC1065683 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:16:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B108FC1A for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:16:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5DMG1l0005295; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:16:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080613161108.02509378@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:15:56 -0500 To: jonathan michaels From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <20080613131641.18728@caamora.com.au> References: <20080611213645.07247@caamora.com.au> <6.0.0.22.2.20080611123741.0341e498@mail.computinginnovations.com> <20080613131641.18728@caamora.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/6806/Wed Apr 16 15:50:16 2008 on betty.computinginnovations.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: m5DMG1l0005295 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd questions Subject: Re: sendmail: stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:16:29 -0000 At 10:16 PM 6/12/2008, jonathan michaels wrote: >greetings, derek, > >much appreciated the prompt reply > >On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:43:42PM -0500, Derek Ragona wrote: > > At 06:36 AM 6/11/2008, jonathan michaels wrote: > >bit of history trimed for brevity > > > >in teh freebsd.mc/sendmail.mc and a 'make install' to cover all > > >bases. > > > > > >i treied to restart teh mailqueue ... no luck .. grrr > > > > > > and then an entry into the mailertable > > > > > >. esmpt:mail.caamora.com.au > > > > > >again did the make whatever thingie and ... tried to post, > > >again this defered post business .. can't asign .. > > > > > >there is something going on here that i donot understand .. > > >some enlightenment would be appreciated, please. > > > > > >the few bits i found in yahoosearch engine, google resfuses me > > >access still but yahoo i can use. i looked uo the error message > > >and turned up this one endrt refereing to teh linux incedent, i > > >have a copy of bat book ed 1 it just says it exists, same for > > >smart_host mail_hub macros. > > > > > >is there some way to fix this short of upgrading and mvoing to > > >postfix ?? i don't have teh needed stuff to do that just yet > > >(me and hardware issues) > > > > > >it looks like i've missed somethings but i don't know enough > > >about freebsd v6.x to know even where to start to look for this > > >one .. aside from this i have another v6.2 host that also was > > >doing the same thing but after i copied a working set of > > >sendmail configs and restarted sendmail it work properly except > > >teh it dosent forward the "charlie root" mail from teh > > >maintenece events (at 2 am. 3 am and 4 am from teh /etc/cron > > >events) the mail itesm just sit in teh /var/mail/root folder > > > > > >it has taken me just under 6 mnths to get this far, i've come > > >to teh end of my rope and am seriously thinking of going back > > >to freebsd v2.2.5 .. > > > > > >regards/appreciations/much graciousnessess > > > > > >jonathan > > > > You need to have in /etc/mail/mailertable: > > .caamora.com.au esmpt:mail.caamora.com.au > > and rebuild mailertable.db > >should not the "esmpt:" rather be "esmtp:" most of teh literature that >i have read recently says it the esmtp way .. i live with dsylexia >amongst other neurological disabilities and need to double/triple/add a >few more time to check things before i am confident of success (not >failing) based on 'spelling' alone. Yes, I must have a typo in my reply, sorry. > > In /etc/mail/domaintable: > > mail.caamora.com.au > > and rebuild domaintable.db > >i used to run a uucp mail service for several clients back in teh >fidonet days (internet to fidonet gateway) and this made sence then, >now i fali to understand the need .. i just do not know and would >appreciate a bit of an explanation please .. > >mail.caamora.com.au is an alias (in the dns file and /etc/hosts) for >the machine seaholm.caamora.com.au which is the primary mailserver for >the domain .caamora.com.au ... is not tthe domaintable used to remap an >old domain to a new domain name after some soprt of a change or to use >names in 'rule 3' mappings .. if i have missunderstood my readings i >apoloise, i am new to sendmail fiddlings, i set it up ten years ago and >it worked i now have to relearn who and why .. my disabilities have >gotten a bit worse because of teh medicines i need to take and this >makes learning a bit on teh harder side .. but not impossible smile> I "assume" that mail.caamora.com.au is the name the MX record points to, sendmail and most mail transfer applications strictly use the DNS MX record to resolve the names, and you need this entry to assure your server "knows" it is the recipient and sender for that domain. Otherwise it tries to send the mail elseware and it becomes undeliverable as you had seen in the logs. > > > in /etc/mail/local-host-names: > > caamora.com.au > >check, it was done long time ago > > > and double check your MX record and /etc/hosts > > i looked at my dns files and found a small disaprity from a name >change about 2 years ago, i made teh change in teh main file but forgot >to carry it into teh reverse lookup file, grrrr. > >as for the MX records they have been much teh same for about 15 years, >i like long term stability makes for peace of mind , the down >side is that when things go wrong like this, it is a nightmare to >recall what, how did/done way back when the system was built/changed >last .. makes for lots of work sometimes. If you update DNS files, be sure to change the serial number in the file so the new file is propagated. > > Once that is all done, execute: > > /etc/rc.sendmail stop > > wait until all instances die then: > > /etc/rc.sendmail start > >ok .. did teh checks, made teh changes, even the domaintable, though i >don;t understand how it works, the only thing i don't do as you wrote >was teh esmpt .. i used teh more popular esmtp ?? That should be fine now. >apart from fixing teh esmtp mistype i did it all and checked teh mx >host my dns setup and still its dead in teh water, still defering all >mail out from this box. > >might it have some thing to do with this line in teh sendmail config >line it is commented out ?? > >the one reference that i found on teh world wide internet made some >sort of reference to this being the cause in the linux machine that had >a similar issue back in 2003 ??? > ># SMTP client options >#O ClientPortOptions=Family=inet, Address=0.0.0.0 > > >what would happen if i uncommented this line in teh sendmail.cf file ? > >also, what use are teh sendmail config files that are named >/etc/mail/host,name.cf There are multiple instances of sendmail required to be run now. Once uses submit.cf, and the other uses sendmail.cf Typically you only need to change the .mc file that is used to build the sendmail.cf file. Typically you can sue one of the sample freebsd.mc files in /etc/mail as a start to make the sendmail.cf file. >when i forst installed freebsd in this machine it built these files and >since then nothing has touched the two files .. what are they for what >do they do in teh sendmail hiearchay ??? please ? There are files installed in /etc/mail as samples and as running files. However the sendmail.cf installed may need customization for your settings and any customization you may require. I find it best to always build a sendmail.cf file, and then test it out. >this is a really confusing situation, i've got nowhere else to go for >informations > >much appreciations for teh help. > >kind regards If you make DNS or sendmail configurations changes be sure to restart these services so the new configurations are used. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 22:40:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8481065674 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:40:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glenn@elaw.org.test-google-a.com) Received: from hermes.elaw.org (hermes.elaw.org [64.112.226.136]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9AA8FC28 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glenn@elaw.org.test-google-a.com) Received: (qmail 32532 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2008 22:13:39 -0000 Received: from gw.elaw.org (HELO [192.168.0.12]) ([64.112.226.130]) (envelope-sender ) by hermes.elaw.org (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Jun 2008 22:13:39 -0000 Message-ID: <4852F113.4090908@elaw.org.test-google-a.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:13:39 -0700 From: Glenn Gillis Organization: ELAW U.S. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <84a992f30806121702r39f132a8y11f8e410221e132c@mail.gmail.com> <20080613012029.GA16341@dan.emsphone.com> <4851D328.8060107@ibctech.ca> <4851D6DD.8090801@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <4851D6DD.8090801@ibctech.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Tried to symlink /etc to another disk, now stuck X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glenn@elaw.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:40:23 -0000 Steve Bertrand wrote, On 6/12/2008 7:09 PM: > Steve Bertrand wrote: >> Dan Nelson wrote: > >> I'm off to try it. I've got a system here with a da device. I'll fsck >> up /etc/fstab, reboot, and report back with the appropriate mountroot> >> prompt entry... > > # cat /etc/fstab > > # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# > /dev/da0a / ufs rw,noatime 1 1 > md /tmp mfs rw,-s32M,nosuid,noatime > 0 0 > > (..snip..) > > ..change /etc/fstab to mount root to /dev/ad15a, reboot: > > mountroot> > > # mountroot>ufs:/dev/da0a {ENTER} > > ...machine boots up. > > To the OP...if you know what your disk type is, you CAN get it to > continue to mount root at the mountroot prompt. > > Furthering that, you can also fsck and mount your other disk mountpoints > in order to gain access to your editing binaries. > > There is no need to use an external resource to boot the machine from if > you are already aware that the only thing that got fsck'd up is the > mountpoints in the fstab (or, like in this case, the file was > unavailable entirely). The disk structure is still the same, and the > system can see this with manual intervention. > > OP: at the mountroot> prompt, try this: ufs:/dev/ad0s1a > > and see if you get anywhere. > > Steve Thanks to Steve, Dan and Andrew for offering suggestions for regaining access to my box! I was finally able to mount / from the mountroot> prompt using "ufs:/dev/aacd0s1a" (this is a Dell PowerEdge server with a SCSI RAID5 array.) Fortunately, there was an "/etc.old directory left over from the last patch level upgrade I did; that was enough to get the system booting normally so that I could copy back the former /etc directory that I had moved at the start of this whole fiasco. I think I will start retaining electronic and hard-copy fstab files from my FreeBSD boxes for future reference, as Steve suggested in a later message. -- Glenn Gillis ELAW U.S. Information Technology Manager Environmental Law Alliance Worldwide http://www.elaw.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 22:41:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CC31065672 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:41:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simias.n@gmail.com) Received: from moulinette.org (moulinette.org [87.98.217.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252D98FC21 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:41:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simias.n@gmail.com) Received: from simias.hd.free.fr (vit94-5-82-243-51-8.fbx.proxad.net [82.243.51.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by moulinette.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E38A3FF for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:08:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Lionel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:12:50 +0200 Message-ID: <86abhp6l25.fsf@simias.hd.free.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Restoring freeBSD boot loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:41:32 -0000 I've had to install Windows XP in dual boot on a freeBSD box, and of course it erased the bootloader to replace it with its own. Now I'd like to restore the freeBSD bootloader. I've tried booting with the install CD and I use the fdisk utility to mark the fbsd partition bootable and then said I wanted to install the freeBSD bootloader, but I didn't know how to make it actually write the changes to the disk. So... is it possible to restore the bootloader this way? Maybe I could install lilo from a live CD but I don't want to install grub from windows because I'll probably remove it soon, but I think lilo just places itself in the boot segment so it should be fine. Any help would be most welcome... -- Lionel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 22:44:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8CD106567C for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:44:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-09.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-09.bluehost.com [69.89.17.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A4658FC1F for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:44:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 2673 invoked by uid 0); 13 Jun 2008 22:44:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 13 Jun 2008 22:44:11 -0000 Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K7I0B-00017y-4e for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:44:11 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:39:44 -0600 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:39:44 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080613223944.GA22516@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> <20080611211821.GB25793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> <20080612113725.J4402@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4851B872.2090101@onetel.com> <20080613110158.K86321@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080613165119.GA31171@kokopelli.hydra> <20080613100811.0fb23892@gom.home> <20080613202844.P2744@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080613202844.P2744@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} DomainKey-Status: no signature Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:44:15 -0000 --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 08:31:41PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> > >the thing with windoze is that you don't have a choice - in fact, until > >recently you couldn't even have multiple desktops. >=20 > it's OK. users that REQUIRE lots of graphics etc.. don't usually make use= =20 > of it. so what's wrong with windoze. right software for the right people. >=20 > >with *nix and the creativity inspired by open source there are many, > >many opportunities. >=20 > in unix - as you say - you have a choice in every place. so that's good= =20 > that "desktop usage" isn't "improved" in FreeBSD as this improvement =3D= =3D=20 > lack of choice. >=20 > for those who don't like to "hack the system", just have everything just= =20 > put up and ready to use, there is already windows! =2E . . but you'd still get a "cooler" desktop by going with something else, like MacOS X, Ubuntu, or PC-BSD (in increasing order of "coolness" in the glitzy, unnecessary dancing rodents sense) without having to actually express any personal preferences during setup. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] I was essentially an anarcho-capitalist in high school, rather than wasting the folly of my youth on something lame like revolutionary communism. --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhS9zAACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXrOgCfddXdKlCvA60Ydy5lYDq7x17z dzMAn2PcB4jC5yNmUwPyn0a3Zk9A5xPE =CxMe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 22:46:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC461065672 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from bulwark.hamla.org (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5AB8FC15 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (bulwark [69.55.228.210]) by bulwark.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2531CCC2; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:46:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at bulwark.hamla.org Received: from bulwark.hamla.org ([69.55.228.210]) by localhost (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 6VeDGtyLv39o; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:46:13 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: Lionel Message-ID: <20080613224612.GA2267@shepherd> Mail-Followup-To: Lionel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86abhp6l25.fsf@simias.hd.free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86abhp6l25.fsf@simias.hd.free.fr> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Restoring freeBSD boot loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:46:18 -0000 Lionel wrote: > I've had to install Windows XP in dual boot on a freeBSD box, and of > course it erased the bootloader to replace it with its own. Now I'd like > to restore the freeBSD bootloader. > > I've tried booting with the install CD and I use the fdisk utility to > mark the fbsd partition bootable and then said I wanted to install the > freeBSD bootloader, but I didn't know how to make it actually write the > changes to the disk. > > So... is it possible to restore the bootloader this way? Maybe I could > install lilo from a live CD but I don't want to install grub from > windows because I'll probably remove it soon, but I think lilo just > places itself in the boot segment so it should be fine. 3.8 in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/install.html -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 22:46:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201F11065674 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF888FC13 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:46:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5DMkk5U005851; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:46:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080613174523.024c5030@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:46:41 -0500 To: Lionel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <86abhp6l25.fsf@simias.hd.free.fr> References: <86abhp6l25.fsf@simias.hd.free.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/6806/Wed Apr 16 15:50:16 2008 on betty.computinginnovations.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: m5DMkk5U005851 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Restoring freeBSD boot loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:46:56 -0000 At 05:12 PM 6/13/2008, Lionel wrote: > I've had to install Windows XP in dual boot on a freeBSD box, and of >course it erased the bootloader to replace it with its own. Now I'd like >to restore the freeBSD bootloader. > > I've tried booting with the install CD and I use the fdisk utility to >mark the fbsd partition bootable and then said I wanted to install the >freeBSD bootloader, but I didn't know how to make it actually write the >changes to the disk. > > So... is it possible to restore the bootloader this way? Maybe I could >install lilo from a live CD but I don't want to install grub from >windows because I'll probably remove it soon, but I think lilo just >places itself in the boot segment so it should be fine. > > Any help would be most welcome... > >-- >Lionel Look in the tools folder on the FreeBSD install CD for booteasy. Booteasy will run from Windows and install the boot loader. It will also save the old MBR to a floppy, hard disk, or USB disk for safety. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 22:50:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A6E1065674 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:50:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5158FC18 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:50:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5DMoXMf008496 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:50:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:50:28 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080613225024.GA5175@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. 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Cann anybody clue me in? thanks much, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 23:12:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E081D1065671 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:12:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA878FC2C; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4852FED0.2010805@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:12:16 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Cran References: <4852CF49.2000304@cwis.biz> <20080613215908.25d71e6e@tau> In-Reply-To: <20080613215908.25d71e6e@tau> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ryan Coleman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intermittent -- yet regular -- v6.3 kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:12:19 -0000 Bruce Cran wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:49:29 -0500 > Ryan Coleman wrote: > >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in >> kernel mode >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1; apic id = 01 >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address = 0x0 >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code = supervisor >> read, page not present >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x20:0x0 >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer = >> 0x28:0xec0ea8e0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: frame >> pointer = 0x28:0xec0ea8e4 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: >> code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags = interrupt >> enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: current process = 925 (cp) >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number = 12 >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1 >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 1h21m59s >> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined. >> >> >> This is a regular occurrence, but varies by source. Brand new fBSD >> 6.3 machine, what more information do I need to provide? > > To be of any use we need a backtrace. See > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html > for details. First you need to configure a dump device then when > the system crashes a crash dump will be written to /var/crash by > default. You then run kgdb on the file to get the backtrace. > It's quite likely to be due to bad hardware though. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 23:14:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC2810657B3 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from mail.skiltech.com (bunning.skiltech.com [65.36.251.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1288FC13 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:14:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C309325BEF9; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:14:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at skiltech.com Received: from mail.skiltech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bunning.skiltech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DWmwd7+TrfAz; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:14:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-75-73-67-167.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [75.73.67.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BFFCF25BEE9; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:14:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4852FF62.7010209@cwis.biz> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:14:42 -0500 From: Ryan Coleman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <4852CF49.2000304@cwis.biz> <20080613215908.25d71e6e@tau> <4852FED0.2010805@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4852FED0.2010805@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bruce Cran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intermittent -- yet regular -- v6.3 kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:14:48 -0000 I'm sure. I could get different RAM this weekend, but that just makes me angry. I bought all the items from recommended lists on NewEgg two weeks ago. This is probably the 11th crash in 12 days. > > It's quite likely to be due to bad hardware though. > > Kris > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 13 23:42:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48CDB1065682 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.78.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA648FC18 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D47428440; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id CC8401CC2D; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:41:57 -0400 (EDT) To: Ryan Coleman References: <4852CF49.2000304@cwis.biz> <20080613215908.25d71e6e@tau> <4852FED0.2010805@FreeBSD.org> <4852FF62.7010209@cwis.biz> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:41:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4852FF62.7010209@cwis.biz> (Ryan Coleman's message of "Fri\, 13 Jun 2008 18\:14\:42 -0500") Message-ID: <444p7wrjga.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intermittent -- yet regular -- v6.3 kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:42:02 -0000 [Don't top-post, please.] >> It's quite likely to be due to bad hardware though. Ryan Coleman writes: > I'm sure. I could get different RAM this weekend, but that just makes > me angry. I bought all the items from recommended lists on NewEgg two > weeks ago. This is probably the 11th crash in 12 days. Buying good hardware improves your odds a lot, but failures can still happen. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 00:01:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A07E10656AE for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:01:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Fraser@mail.frase.id.au) Received: from mail.frase.id.au (203-219-142-174.static.tpgi.com.au [203.219.142.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74BB8FC0A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:01:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Fraser@mail.frase.id.au) Received: from mail.frase.id.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frase.id.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5E01CP5077862; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:01:12 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from Fraser@mail.frase.id.au) Received: (from Fraser@localhost) by mail.frase.id.au (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m5E01Cjx077861; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:01:12 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from Fraser) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:01:12 +1000 From: Fraser Tweedale To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080614000111.GB91339@bacardi> References: <86abhp6l25.fsf@simias.hd.free.fr> <20080613224612.GA2267@shepherd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080613224612.GA2267@shepherd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Lionel Subject: Re: Restoring freeBSD boot loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:01:14 -0000 --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 06:46:13PM -0400, Sahil Tandon wrote: > Lionel wrote: >=20 > > I've had to install Windows XP in dual boot on a freeBSD box, and of > > course it erased the bootloader to replace it with its own. Now I'd like > > to restore the freeBSD bootloader. > >=20 > > I've tried booting with the install CD and I use the fdisk utility to > > mark the fbsd partition bootable and then said I wanted to install the > > freeBSD bootloader, but I didn't know how to make it actually write the > > changes to the disk. > >=20 > > So... is it possible to restore the bootloader this way? Maybe I could > > install lilo from a live CD but I don't want to install grub from > > windows because I'll probably remove it soon, but I think lilo just > > places itself in the boot segment so it should be fine. >=20 > 3.8 in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/install.html >=20 > --=20 > Sahil Tandon Indeed, fdisk(8) can be used to do this. frase --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhTCkcACgkQPw/2FZbemTU34QCfblM4MPXvyQ+7YCFsKkbgS7do cR4An0f8Fq1iKdwmVwYrm9uWfBqNH1NT =d0L5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 00:51:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83F91065683 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd4mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0CE8FC1A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd4mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr5so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.50]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0K2F009EYH178D80@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:51:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml10so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.80]) by pd4mr5so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0K2F00201H16DU70@pd4mr5so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:51:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from gom.home ([70.67.160.176]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0K2F00A4HH161300@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:51:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from gom.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gom.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A0AB839 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:50:59 -0700 From: prad In-reply-to: <20080613223944.GA22516@kokopelli.hydra> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20080613175059.0966a480@gom.home> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> <20080611211821.GB25793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> <20080612113725.J4402@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4851B872.2090101@onetel.com> <20080613110158.K86321@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080613165119.GA31171@kokopelli.hydra> <20080613100811.0fb23892@gom.home> <20080613202844.P2744@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080613223944.GA22516@kokopelli.hydra> Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:51:07 -0000 On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:39:44 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: > > for those who don't like to "hack the system", just have everything > > just put up and ready to use, there is already windows! > > . . . but you'd still get a "cooler" desktop by going with something > else > i agree. i was rather amused when a friend told me recently she had gone over to mac from xp and started raving about having discovered multiple desktops. i told her i was happy for her and added that i did know what these things were since we've had them for years in *nix. in answer to Wojciech's "... there is already windows!", i don't think there is anything 'wrong' with that os. in fact, i rather liked win95 and win98. on old machines back then win95 was a really easy install and required only 50M - you had to work much harder to put on linux (especially X). however, things are very different now and the *nix world offers a lot more. if some people don't want this and prefer to pay for propriety, more limited software then they can certainly find what they are looking for with xp, vista and whatever else is conjured up. -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 01:12:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029121065672 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:12:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wwwrun@nino.skgo.org) Received: from nino.skgo.org (nino.skgo.org [217.169.210.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC44D8FC1F for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:12:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wwwrun@nino.skgo.org) Received: by nino.skgo.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id BC94EE819; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:22:39 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Matilda Peterson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20080614032239.BC94EE819@nino.skgo.org> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:22:39 +0200 (CEST) Subject: SPEEDLOTTO AWARD WINNER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: claims.dept108@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:12:21 -0000 SPEEDLOTTO AWARD WINNER SL001QCMAJ2008 AUTHORIZATION NOTE SUBJECT: Guaranteed* Cash Notification £1,000,000.00 Pounds Unclaimed This is £1,000,000.00 GBP(One Million Great Britain Pounds)that was accredited to your e-mail address.You have been chosen as one of our Monthly Lucky winners. Do send the following informations to enable us process your claims Full Names: Contact/Mailing Address: Tel/ Fax Numbers: Nationality: Age / Sex DRAW DATE:Saturday, June 14,2008 Contact Agent; Matilda Peterson claims.dept108@gmail.com Tel:+44 701 114 9680 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 02:10:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2E21065671 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:10:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E1E8FC18 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5E2Ahl4072716; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:10:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:10:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Gilles In-Reply-To: <96d454pk73ornom636es6caii1cl8h29dt@4ax.com> Message-ID: <20080613220813.X70655@tripel.monochrome.org> References: <96d454pk73ornom636es6caii1cl8h29dt@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Ports] How to find where a port is located? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:10:47 -0000 On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Gilles wrote: > Hello > > Currently, to find where a software is located under /usr/ports/, I > rune the "find" command. Is there a database that I could query > instead so that it gives out the whole path to that the application? I wrote a lame-ass script to do this: $ more /home/chris/bin/findport #!/bin/sh # # Find a port whose name contains the string supplied as argument # prev_dir=`pwd` cd /usr/ports # make search key=$1 | grep Path | grep -v deps | grep -i $1 # cd $prev_dir HTH. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 03:15:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3271065671 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700F78FC14 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so4188155wfg.7 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:14:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=SOHrRcPCKy4Qq3ea0JCxBn169RzqvLP/9iwWwWH/K8Y=; b=URUlGxjI7naWb7TcKxofIkBH7lRYVhmB5Ev1A3CwcvzSnDmfSCk2FWF701JPP4Kd/P GzhvO9vTSzayU9+HLDZD/DI+JVBqn4nvPl5HN5i6is1upL3Xy4FhM9YsLAqWnotwTFZx fz1bw1QsJnYa3nijR4DGjkfi46Pk9DHFpUIEU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=gzIOnPSgyxX7W7RUMDoo3c1IKJPsqznuADUGz/GAPsYxFPk8hsg4ofp7eBp6KOtzG+ FwiKdt3y6kzSe8TrTGbBTB7VF5gx8dkPFW+K6WZz/tIre4P0K17bEhQzpLQulQJfdE0U YOHbrAkjPjJJXyLbJ61LH2JZXuuZojgsgv71s= Received: by 10.142.185.13 with SMTP id i13mr1359181wff.219.1213413299776; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:14:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.200.19 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:14:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <64c038660806132014i503f1469rdf329c723554b9eb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:14:59 -0600 From: Modulok To: "Chris Hill" In-Reply-To: <20080613220813.X70655@tripel.monochrome.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <96d454pk73ornom636es6caii1cl8h29dt@4ax.com> <20080613220813.X70655@tripel.monochrome.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Ports] How to find where a port is located? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:15:00 -0000 On 6/13/08, Chris Hill wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Gilles wrote: > >> Hello >> >> Currently, to find where a software is located under /usr/ports/, I >> rune the "find" command. Is there a database that I could query >> instead so that it gives out the whole path to that the application? > Have you looked into the whereis(1) command? -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 03:32:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0873E1065673 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:32:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pascal@clermont.cc) Received: from mail.clermont.cc (clermont.cc [69.70.120.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D458FC15 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:32:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pascal@clermont.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.clermont.cc (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD451CC38; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:36:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.clermont.cc ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.clermont.cc [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31203-10; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:36:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dwarf.clermont.cc (dwarf.clermont.cc [192.168.100.10]) (Authenticated sender: pascal@clermont.cc) by mail.clermont.cc (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D29871CC2E; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:36:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <485303C6.1000701@clermont.cc> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:33:26 +0000 From: Pascal S Clermont User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080606) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <96d454pk73ornom636es6caii1cl8h29dt@4ax.com> <20080613220813.X70655@tripel.monochrome.org> <64c038660806132014i503f1469rdf329c723554b9eb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <64c038660806132014i503f1469rdf329c723554b9eb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Ports] How to find where a port is located? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:32:30 -0000 Modulok wrote: > On 6/13/08, Chris Hill wrote: > >> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Gilles wrote: >> >> >>> Hello >>> >>> Currently, to find where a software is located under /usr/ports/, I >>> rune the "find" command. Is there a database that I could query >>> instead so that it gives out the whole path to that the application? >>> > > Have you looked into the whereis(1) command? > -Modulok- > > there is alot of differents ways to search for a port that you are looking for. My first suggestion would be to read this article from the freebsd handbook; http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-finding-applications.html . Some people enjoy using some websites to do their searches since they value that more information can be used to search. Here are some of the sites : http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ http://www.freshports.org/ http://www.freebsdsoftware.org/ These are ones that come to me as I am writing this, they're are most likely several other websites that will give you some similar information such as these. I would suggest that you refer to the handbook when you ask yourself questions concerning the operating system. The handbook is a great reference that I even use quite often myself when I am in doubt on a certain subject. Pascal S. Clermont From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 03:33:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA49B1065674 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:33:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+W4=8ff14f2c@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11D98FC21 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:33:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+W4=8ff14f2c@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B24163F6C for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:17:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A780523E49B for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:17:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:16:56 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080614041656.5be7255e@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <4851751E.9020900@next.online.no> References: <3b47caa90806082022g65e88d97q3fa3d99d3b790ddc@mail.gmail.com> <484D1B1C.9020909@next.online.no> <3b47caa90806121138ncc284edj94af1a58059304f4@mail.gmail.com> <4851751E.9020900@next.online.no> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:33:45 -0000 On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:12:30 +0200 Tore Lund wrote: > Novembre wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Tore Lund > > I'm sorry, but I didn't quite get it. Do you mean that if I > > subscribe to the newsgroup which mirrors the list, and if I answer > > the question in the newsgroup, then it will be shown properly in > > the freebsd mailing lists as well? I mean, is the mirroring one way > > or both-ways? > > The mirroring is one-way only. What I do in Thunderbird is to hit > "Reply to All", delete the address lines beginning with "muc*" and add > the address line "To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org". gmane.org offers many mailing lists via its news.gmane.org server and most of the lists will allow posting. You need a real email address to post, because the first one has to verified. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 03:36:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C987106566B for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:36:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+W4=8ff14f2c@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3948FC0A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:36:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+W4=8ff14f2c@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C130B23E4B5; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:36:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:35:55 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080614043555.35c5d2b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <836792.79335.qm@web63907.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <836792.79335.qm@web63907.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: camiloreyes82@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Java Dilemma X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:36:08 -0000 On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Camilo Reyes wrote: > Unfortunately after updating my portsnap; it did not work. Here is the > error I get: > > $ firefox > INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: SendRequest: Read of ack failed: 0 > > System error?:: Unknown error: 0 > $ firefox > INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: SendRequest: Read of ack failed: 0 > > System error?:: Unknown error: 0 > > It's interesting to note that you don't have to download the tzupdater > tool from Java (which requires you to create an account with their > site). In order to avoid getting that file just edit the Makefile > prior to running make. You don't have to do that, it's an option, just do a make config and deselect it. If you are trying to to get the browser plugin to work, it probably wont. The diablo java ports are precompiled binaries, currently built against FreeBSD 6, and this is one of the few cases where compat6x doesn't help. You need to build java from source e.g. with java/jdk15. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 04:46:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117891065671 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:46:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from mail.skiltech.com (bunning.skiltech.com [65.36.251.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1B38FC2A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:46:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4409525BF17 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:46:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at skiltech.com Received: from mail.skiltech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bunning.skiltech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id anixHuvbMLAF for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-75-73-67-167.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [75.73.67.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5F98F25BF05 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48534D08.2050809@cwis.biz> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:46:00 -0500 From: Ryan Coleman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4852CF49.2000304@cwis.biz> <20080613215908.25d71e6e@tau> <4852FED0.2010805@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4852FED0.2010805@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Intermittent -- yet regular -- v6.3 kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:46:05 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > Bruce Cran wrote: >> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:49:29 -0500 >> Ryan Coleman wrote: >> >>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in >>> kernel mode >>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1; apic id = 01 >>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address = 0x0 >>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code = supervisor >>> read, page not present >>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x20:0x0 >>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer = >>> 0x28:0xec0ea8e0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: frame >>> pointer = 0x28:0xec0ea8e4 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: >>> code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b >>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 >>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags = interrupt >>> enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 >>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: current process = 925 (cp) >>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number = 12 >>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault >>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1 >>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 1h21m59s >>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined. >>> >>> >>> This is a regular occurrence, but varies by source. Brand new fBSD >>> 6.3 machine, what more information do I need to provide? >> >> To be of any use we need a backtrace. See >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html >> for details. First you need to configure a dump device then when >> the system crashes a crash dump will be written to /var/crash by >> default. You then run kgdb on the file to get the backtrace. >> > > It's quite likely to be due to bad hardware though. > > Kris > It's crashed twice and stalled on the dump. Any thoughts? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 04:47:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE071065671 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09338FC0A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:47:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5E4lTWQ010349 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:47:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:47:23 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080614044723.GB14869@thought.org> References: <20080613225024.GA5175@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080613225024.GA5175@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Subject: How do I install pphpBB2? [WAS: Re: okay, it's time to ask....] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:47:28 -0000 On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 03:50:28PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > PEople, > > After a long time, I've got phpbb configured into mysql. > I've downloaded phpBB2 and installed it. My notes from > 2003 fail here; it may be because my apache-2 isn't configured. > > Cann anybody clue me in? > > thanks much, > > gary > > > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 04:57:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511A2106564A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from bulwark.hamla.org (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390E58FC26 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (bulwark [69.55.228.210]) by bulwark.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD761CCC2; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:57:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at bulwark.hamla.org Received: from bulwark.hamla.org ([69.55.228.210]) by localhost (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id VvuIz+8-JP4f; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:56:56 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20080614045655.GC2482@shepherd> Mail-Followup-To: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20080613225024.GA5175@thought.org> <20080614044723.GB14869@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080614044723.GB14869@thought.org> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: How do I install pphpBB2? [WAS: Re: okay, it's time to ask....] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:57:03 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > After a long time, I've got phpbb configured into mysql. > I've downloaded phpBB2 and installed it. My notes from > 2003 fail here; it may be because my apache-2 isn't configured. What notes? What fails and how? Show error output and logs. > Cann anybody clue me in? Only if you provide background, a better description of the problem and the steps you've taken to troubleshoot it. When seeking help on this list, you should follow this advice: http://www.lemis.com/questions.html http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 05:27:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBFA1065674 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC4A8FC12 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:27:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5E5RMHr010569 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:27:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:27:16 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080614052716.GC14869@thought.org> References: <20080613225024.GA5175@thought.org> <20080614044723.GB14869@thought.org> <20080614045655.GC2482@shepherd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080614045655.GC2482@shepherd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Subject: Re: How do I install pphpBB2? [WAS: Re: okay, it's time to ask....] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:27:21 -0000 On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 12:56:56AM -0400, Sahil Tandon wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > > After a long time, I've got phpbb configured into mysql. > > I've downloaded phpBB2 and installed it. My notes from > > 2003 fail here; it may be because my apache-2 isn't configured. > > What notes? What fails and how? Show error output and logs. > > > Cann anybody clue me in? > > Only if you provide background, a better description of the problem and the > steps you've taken to troubleshoot it. When seeking help on this list, you > should follow this advice: I've read Greg's advice page; I did google for instructions OR tutorial on installling phpbb2 , freebsd and foundnothing helpful. Since I did create the mysql lines, my'03 notes suggested tha it was timeto point my browser at the BBS. aristotle is a jail without X so I used lynx. The only thing I seemto remember is that in 2003, phpBB2 was installed withthe data directory, /usr/local/www/data/ Now itis installed in theweb ``root'' irectory, /usr/local/www Below is what happened with lynx. p4 22:05 [2672] lynx http://localhost/phpBB2/ 404 Not Found Not Found The requested URL /phpBB2/ was not found on this server. gary PS: Last time I was using apache13. I don't understand very much about apache22. But looks like I'd better get busy... . -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 05:40:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E782710656AF for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BEAB8FC13 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5E5e6sw010637 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:40:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:40:00 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20080614054000.GD14869@thought.org> References: <20080613225024.GA5175@thought.org> <20080614044723.GB14869@thought.org> <20080614045655.GC2482@shepherd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080614045655.GC2482@shepherd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Subject: Re: How do I install pphpBB2? [WAS: Re: okay, it's time to ask....] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:40:08 -0000 On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 12:56:56AM -0400, Sahil Tandon wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > > After a long time, I've got phpbb configured into mysql. > > I've downloaded phpBB2 and installed it. My notes from > > 2003 fail here; it may be because my apache-2 isn't configured. > > What notes? [ ... ] Appended are my original notes. > > -- > Sahil Tandon -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org STAGE 1 /* * mysql instruuctions */ STAGE 2 -- APACHE # cd /usr/ports/www/apache13/ && make install clean ***downloads and installs apache*** STAGE 3 -- MOD_PHP4 # cd /usr/ports/lang/php4/ && make install clean list of things i enable for php: GD2 bzip2 cracklib mcrypt mhash pdflib IMAP GDBM OpenSSL SNMP XML FTP CURL gettext iconv recode pspell BCMath mcve sockets zlib and MySQL should already be selected, but DEFINITELY select them if they are not. One probably doesn't need any of the above options to run phpBB... I just like this set in case I use php for other things in the future. because we enabled snmp it stops to asks some questions while compiling those libraries. i just took the defaults without deviation... ***downloads and installs mod_php4*** STAGE 4 -- PHPBB # cd /usr/ports/www/phpbb/ && make install # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh start apache# open browser now and point to "http://localhost/phpBB2/" fill in the following values according to the db we set up earlier: Database Server Hostname / DSN: localhost Your Database Name: phpbb Database Username: phpbb_user Database Password: XXXXXXXXX (starred out, of course) // was "bbuser" Admin Email Address: my@real.addreSS Domain Name: hostname.real.address (if you do not have a valid dns name, it is very important that you use your IP address here instead of a fake DNS entry. phpBB creates it's page links dynamically with the value you enter here. Server Port: 80 Script path: /phpBB2/ Administrator Username: Administrator Administrator Password: adminpass (starred out again...) Administrator Password [ Confirm ]: adminpass click "Submit" and on the next page click "Finish" then back to the console... # cd /usr/local/www/data/phpBB2/ # rm -rf install/ the web install says to make sure to remove /install and /contrib, but i didn't find any /contrib directory in the version of phpbb that installed? guess we'll ignore that... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 06:11:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6744F1065675 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:11:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-27.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-27.bluehost.com [69.89.17.193]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EF2C8FC19 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:11:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 13277 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jun 2008 06:11:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Jun 2008 06:11:16 -0000 Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K7Oyp-0000XT-Nq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:11:16 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:06:47 -0600 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:06:47 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20080614060647.GA23927@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zhXaljGHf11kAtnf" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} DomainKey-Status: no signature Subject: Two xorg-server packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:11:18 -0000 --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I seem to have two xorg-server packages on a FreeBSD system of mine, and I'm not sure why. With one of them, there's no problem: xorg-server-1.4_10,1 =3D up-to-date with port=20 One of them won't upgrade: xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1 < needs updating (port has 1.2.99.903_2,1)= =20 ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-servers/xorg-server-snap: is outdated ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) - x11-servers/xorg-server-snap (marked as IGNORE) =2E . . and portaudit says it's vulnerable: Affected package: xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1 Type of problem: xorg -- multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: Why do I have this xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1 package? It appears to be nothing but an older version. Should I remove it, or figure out how to upgrade it? Is it actually just an older version of the same package, or is it a different/separate package entirely? Any help figuring this out would be appreciated. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] print substr("Just another Perl hacker", 0, -2); --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhTX/cACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWFjQCgvoyLzft4hv4amsiIq4F6PN54 IoIAoPQq1XF9WcOdJCzBfjE9O6fC8i4v =rHxu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 06:24:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBB6106568C for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:24:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from mail.skiltech.com (bunning.skiltech.com [65.36.251.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F928FC37 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:24:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8786244E57 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:24:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at skiltech.com Received: from mail.skiltech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bunning.skiltech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eLodHU4HvSfi for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (c-75-73-67-167.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [75.73.67.167]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8700325BCA9 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48536407.2040402@cwis.biz> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:24:07 -0500 From: Ryan Coleman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4852CF49.2000304@cwis.biz> <20080613215908.25d71e6e@tau> <4852FED0.2010805@FreeBSD.org> <48534D08.2050809@cwis.biz> In-Reply-To: <48534D08.2050809@cwis.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Intermittent -- yet regular -- v6.3 kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:24:30 -0000 Ryan Coleman wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: >> Bruce Cran wrote: >>> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:49:29 -0500 >>> Ryan Coleman wrote: >>> >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in >>>> kernel mode >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1; apic id = 01 >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address = 0x0 >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code = >>>> supervisor read, page not present >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x20:0x0 >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer = >>>> 0x28:0xec0ea8e0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: frame >>>> pointer = 0x28:0xec0ea8e4 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: >>>> code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags = interrupt >>>> enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: current process = 925 (cp) >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number = 12 >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1 >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 1h21m59s >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined. >>>> >>>> >>>> This is a regular occurrence, but varies by source. Brand new fBSD >>>> 6.3 machine, what more information do I need to provide? >>> >>> To be of any use we need a backtrace. See >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html >>> >>> for details. First you need to configure a dump device then when >>> the system crashes a crash dump will be written to /var/crash by >>> default. You then run kgdb on the file to get the backtrace. >>> >> >> It's quite likely to be due to bad hardware though. >> >> Kris >> > > It's crashed twice and stalled on the dump. Any thoughts? Anyone? I'm going to have to disable the dump as I need the machine to come back up if possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 06:29:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7549106566B for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:29:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [80.68.94.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715E58FC16 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:29:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 3B7A130393; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:28:38 +0100 (BST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on muon.cran.org.uk X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 required=10.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.3 Received: from tau (tau.demon.co.uk [80.177.26.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D24530356; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:28:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:28:28 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Ryan Coleman Message-ID: <20080614072828.318d0e7c@tau> In-Reply-To: <48536407.2040402@cwis.biz> References: <4852CF49.2000304@cwis.biz> <20080613215908.25d71e6e@tau> <4852FED0.2010805@FreeBSD.org> <48534D08.2050809@cwis.biz> <48536407.2040402@cwis.biz> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/2FNw6Mwbipk5vSCr7jvutxN"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intermittent -- yet regular -- v6.3 kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:29:09 -0000 --Sig_/2FNw6Mwbipk5vSCr7jvutxN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:24:07 -0500 Ryan Coleman wrote: > Ryan Coleman wrote: > > Kris Kennaway wrote: > >> Bruce Cran wrote: > >>> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:49:29 -0500 > >>> Ryan Coleman wrote: > >>> > >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while > >>>> in kernel mode > >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid =3D 1; apic id =3D 01 > >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address =3D 0x0 > >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code =3D=20 > >>>> supervisor read, page not present > >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer =3D > >>>> 0x20:0x0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer > >>>> =3D 0x28:0xec0ea8e0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: frame > >>>> pointer =3D 0x28:0xec0ea8e4 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 > >>>> kernel: code segment =3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type > >>>> 0x1b Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: =3D DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, > >>>> gran 1 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags =3D > >>>> interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0 > >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: current process =3D 925 > >>>> (cp) Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number =3D 12 > >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault > >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid =3D 1 > >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 1h21m59s > >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device > >>>> defined. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> This is a regular occurrence, but varies by source. Brand new > >>>> fBSD 6.3 machine, what more information do I need to provide? > >>> > >>> To be of any use we need a backtrace. See=20 > >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.h= tml=20 > >>> > >>> for details. First you need to configure a dump device then when > >>> the system crashes a crash dump will be written to /var/crash by > >>> default. You then run kgdb on the file to get the backtrace. > >>> > >> > >> It's quite likely to be due to bad hardware though. > >> > >> Kris > >> > > > > It's crashed twice and stalled on the dump. Any thoughts? >=20 > Anyone? I'm going to have to disable the dump as I need the machine > to come back up if possible. Since it sounds like it's bad hardware, the dump isn't going to provide any useful information so you may as well disable it until you can swap out the RAM etc. --=20 Bruce Cran --Sig_/2FNw6Mwbipk5vSCr7jvutxN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIU2UQn4uvqcJsLfgRAtDgAJ43TenQ15Wvo84QCaj9Rgcd9zE5fACfXANd 0HCil4SqmmCOQTVIcot7BjU= =7N57 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/2FNw6Mwbipk5vSCr7jvutxN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 06:53:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB5E106566C for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:53:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A218FC0A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:53:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so2211691ywe.13 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:53:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=KPpTvw+ozoW2luu0vn5NBOSRA1nYsII4v7nHV4D0Tuw=; b=pjWMYy/orqNB1sFDUBEMic3Ib+87cysZr3TrRaiuaM/ujNvAxuAJlU3jCpXWYSFasQ hPzC2nkkAkKFKMvu0p+YYI5M0zht29/VoUJ8yzFtzApP9naT3w/7A1x8isEIl1HyCpwF 0Z9PRP/zRYTRgLzld9YZnuGoWFjKWhVPo1ljA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=NBFRAAsG1xbcfWqwuWiWZVvt6tCmCe1VeE+I1gqesvg5IZgqCo32RVUZVbMWjJRCPD v1kuxgEsRRD/PquaXgO9/CeCxBjLpcJjCn54wHwvfkr36aNsKUfmfNmQazbAKKc28l/A 0Z2Y9u0XPHni4nv+es4yJhTcjDPzitYgnySIg= Received: by 10.150.52.2 with SMTP id z2mr6041227ybz.47.1213426386219; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.219.9 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <991123400806132353l5a1ecc5by6c25114f004f4aab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:53:06 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <20080614060647.GA23927@kokopelli.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080614060647.GA23927@kokopelli.hydra> Subject: Re: Two xorg-server packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:53:06 -0000 When did you lastly update your ports tree using any of the different methods available? On 6/14/08, Chad Perrin wrote: > I seem to have two xorg-server packages on a FreeBSD system of mine, and > I'm not sure why. With one of them, there's no problem: > > xorg-server-1.4_10,1 = up-to-date with port > > One of them won't upgrade: > > xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1 < needs updating (port has 1.2.99.903_2,1) > > ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-servers/xorg-server-snap: > is outdated > ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) > - x11-servers/xorg-server-snap (marked as IGNORE) > > . . . and portaudit says it's vulnerable: > > Affected package: xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1 > Type of problem: xorg -- multiple vulnerabilities. > Reference: > > > > Why do I have this xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1 package? It appears to be > nothing but an older version. Should I remove it, or figure out how to > upgrade it? Is it actually just an older version of the same package, or > is it a different/separate package entirely? > > Any help figuring this out would be appreciated. > > -- > Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] > print substr("Just another Perl hacker", 0, -2); > -- Sent from Google Mail for mobile | mobile.google.com Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 07:10:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4F51065682 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED31F8FC43 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:10:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DF7FD05E; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:11:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C44FD05C; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:11:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48536EFD.3060302@webrz.net> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:10:53 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20080613225024.GA5175@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20080613225024.GA5175@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: okay, it's time to ask.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:10:54 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > Cann anybody clue me in? > I personally haven't had this problem, but perhaps you can have a peek at: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-449946.html Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 07:37:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80ADB1065686 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ehl@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu) Received: from dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (dewey.SoE.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.157.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7238E8FC25 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ehl@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu) Received: from dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m5E7Zr4t022327 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ehl@localhost) by dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id m5E7Zr2t019325 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:35:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Edward Lay Message-Id: <200806140735.m5E7Zr2t019325@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to reach hosts outside my subnet after initial installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:37:39 -0000 >From: Derek Ragona >Check and/or create /etc/nsswitch.conf so you are looking in files and >dns for hosts. >Check or create /etc/resolv.conf make sure your upsteam DNS servers >are listed in this file along with any local caching DNS servers. Thanks for the suggestion. Those files already exist with valid entries though. In any event, it doesn't seem like a hostname problem as I can nslookup arbitrary hosts and then try and then ping the IP numbers directly which fails for hosts beyond the local subnet. It seems more like a router/gateway network configuration type of problem. I've just discovered that when I ping the gateway's IP address, I get no answer. Now I know the gateway is functioning as every other host on the network can reach the rest of the internet and in fact, I've just successfully ping'd the gateway from the machine where I'm writing this message. So I'm wondering what could cause this or at least some way of approaching the problem. thanks ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 07:47:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443091065673 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:47:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1648FC14 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:47:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5E7l1mb003323; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:47:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5E7l0QN003320; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:47:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:47:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: prad In-Reply-To: <20080613175059.0966a480@gom.home> Message-ID: <20080614094335.T3207@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> <20080611211821.GB25793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> <20080612113725.J4402@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4851B872.2090101@onetel.com> <20080613110158.K86321@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080613165119.GA31171@kokopelli.hydra> <20080613100811.0fb23892@gom.home> <20080613202844.P2744@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080613223944.GA22516@kokopelli.hydra> <20080613175059.0966a480@gom.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:47:08 -0000 > in answer to Wojciech's "... there is already windows!", i don't think > there is anything 'wrong' with that os. in fact, i rather liked win95 > and win98. on old machines back then win95 was a really easy install and > required only 50M - you had to work much harder to put on linux (especially X). there is nothing wrong in any product as long as it's sold with normal free marked rules, and nobody is forced using it. And that's the true problem with windows - that it is forced. for example - using our taxpayers money - it's in every school's computer and children have no choice but have their brain washed. but it's OT. > > however, things are very different now and the *nix world offers a lot > more. if some people don't want this and prefer to pay for propriety, > more limited software then they can certainly find what they are > looking for with xp, vista and whatever else is conjured up. it's not "more limited software", it's more limited from our point of view. from their point of view unix is limited, because you can't just click "install" and get cool colourfull icons and windows. And LET IT BE THAT WAY. so please do not "improve" FreeBSD in that aspect. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 07:48:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC141065679 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:48:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F868FC19 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:48:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5E7mBFf003342; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:48:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5E7mAUc003339; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:48:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:48:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20080613223944.GA22516@kokopelli.hydra> Message-ID: <20080614094736.T3207@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> <20080611211821.GB25793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> <20080612113725.J4402@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4851B872.2090101@onetel.com> <20080613110158.K86321@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080613165119.GA31171@kokopelli.hydra> <20080613100811.0fb23892@gom.home> <20080613202844.P2744@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080613223944.GA22516@kokopelli.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:48:20 -0000 > . . . but you'd still get a "cooler" desktop by going with something > else, like MacOS X, Ubuntu, or PC-BSD (in increasing order of "coolness" > in the glitzy, unnecessary dancing rodents sense) without having to > actually express any personal preferences during setup. so even better - let FreeBSD be like it is. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 08:24:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F369B1065672 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:24:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B438FC17 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:24:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5E8O6NQ015578 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:24:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5E8O5A1015575 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:24:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:24:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080614102330.M15568@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: ports/net/asterisk build problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:24:11 -0000 ends with this at linking: __sync_sub_and_fetch_4' manager.o(.text+0x1c09): In function `accept_thread': /usr2/ports/net/asterisk/work/asterisk-1.4.20.1/include/asterisk/lock.h:1118: undefined reference to `__sync_fetch_and_add_4' manager.o(.text+0x4b5c): In function `action_waitevent': /usr2/ports/net/asterisk/work/asterisk-1.4.20.1/include/asterisk/lock.h:1164: undefined reference to `__sync_sub_and_fetch_4' manager.o(.text+0x6e8c): In function `generic_http_callback': /usr2/ports/net/asterisk/work/asterisk-1.4.20.1/include/asterisk/lock.h:1118: undefined reference to `__sync_fetch_and_add_4' anyone know where these __sync_* functions are? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 10:12:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13BC106564A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:12:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B308FC19 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:12:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [213.51.130.189] (port=41279 helo=smtp2.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K7Sjl-0000f9-Oz; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:11:57 +0200 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([84.25.65.88]:5008 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp2.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K7Sjl-0005ag-7l; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:11:57 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC443987B; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:11:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4853995B.8090701@boosten.org> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:11:39 +0200 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edward Lay References: <200806140735.m5E7Zr2t019325@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <200806140735.m5E7Zr2t019325@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080614-0, 06/14/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to reach hosts outside my subnet after initial installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:12:01 -0000 Edward Lay wrote: >> From: Derek Ragona > > It seems more like a router/gateway network configuration type of > problem. I've just discovered that when I ping the gateway's IP > address, I get no answer. Now I know the gateway is functioning as > every other host on the network can reach the rest of the internet and > in fact, I've just successfully ping'd the gateway from the machine > where I'm writing this message. So I'm wondering what could cause this > or at least some way of approaching the problem. > netmask? Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 10:12:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7FA10656B8 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simias.n@gmail.com) Received: from moulinette.org (moulinette.org [87.98.217.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955F68FC0C for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simias.n@gmail.com) Received: from simias.hd.free.fr (vit94-5-82-243-51-8.fbx.proxad.net [82.243.51.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by moulinette.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A0F63C; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:07:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Lionel To: Derek Ragona References: <86abhp6l25.fsf@simias.hd.free.fr> <6.0.0.22.2.20080613174523.024c5030@mail.computinginnovations.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:12:28 +0200 In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20080613174523.024c5030@mail.computinginnovations.com> (Derek Ragona's message of "Fri\, 13 Jun 2008 17\:46\:41 -0500") Message-ID: <86zlpo5nqr.fsf@simias.hd.free.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Restoring freeBSD boot loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:12:32 -0000 Derek Ragona writes: > At 05:12 PM 6/13/2008, Lionel wrote: > > I've had to install Windows XP in dual boot on a freeBSD box, and of > course it erased the bootloader to replace it with its own. Now I'd like > to restore the freeBSD bootloader. > > I've tried booting with the install CD and I use the fdisk utility to > mark the fbsd partition bootable and then said I wanted to install the > freeBSD bootloader, but I didn't know how to make it actually write the > changes to the disk. > > So... is it possible to restore the bootloader this way? Maybe I could > install lilo from a live CD but I don't want to install grub from > windows because I'll probably remove it soon, but I think lilo just > places itself in the boot segment so it should be fine. > > Any help would be most welcome... > > -- > Lionel > > Look in the tools folder on the FreeBSD install CD for booteasy. > Booteasy will run from Windows and install the boot loader. It will > also save the old MBR to a floppy, hard disk, or USB disk for safety. > > -Derek Ah, thank you and all those who answered me, really helpful. I'm going to try this right away. > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > And a very special thank to you, MailScanner :-) -- Lionel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 10:51:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D781065671 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1308FC1F for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so1105446ana.13 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:51:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Hb0EU1WOVs8sV/JtJ5Io6LyDKsHb0eXuaFa4z2tONwg=; b=lxbmh+lfmVA7u/rKpcGUQ8qh57H4Dka0Om3Pgdliuuq+hfczYaKoIN0cFReKy8sqLx yn7BTlfB+G3kLGkqRdO0hVHELoRlHNrwHWA2AHOkJg1gCbQeDgqk8UvunZirY15IEqvp fgNe/hFwNSUiM2V2fT2z+GN+uaHXIO1yMydI4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=h5tTlDoi+jvxrgE6z1VRIVfNFaLNIZueSxLgUZ05xrpaueiXe+8Ko7fF8pbsHbs0xm psqqZuEQjvd8borOZVOg5g6AIoZdMr6TULi4IErardY+DxxxVUJ/IOXXxHW/Dts2pwwQ WjrHiiWOAWKH+0nMJjeRfmfp474FLDKNO9kJQ= Received: by 10.100.47.13 with SMTP id u13mr5488948anu.56.1213440676441; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.254.5 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <82f916c90806140351j1ddc422fv5e9e8ab6bcfbfcd5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:51:16 +0100 From: "Kemian Dang" To: "Frank Shute" , "Kemian Dang" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080611123909.GA1538@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <82f916c90806080741n70af2fbew7bb1aaa410847a60@mail.gmail.com> <20080608155315.GA91631@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <82f916c90806081006s6d16e8f6ve1557a2acd41c670@mail.gmail.com> <20080608175200.GB91631@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <82f916c90806110439vf4c6d7bj25370e8af135484b@mail.gmail.com> <20080611123909.GA1538@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Cc: Subject: Re: [OT]Change font for aterm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:51:17 -0000 Thank you, I am trying 14 and 16 pix to find one suits me :) 2008/6/11 Frank Shute : > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:39:21PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote: >> >> 2008/6/8 Frank Shute : >> > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 06:06:38PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote: >> >> >> >> 2008/6/8 Frank Shute : >> >> > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:41:53PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear All, >> >> >> >> >> >> I used to use Bitstream Vera Sans Mono in Gnome-terminal, by chang= e >> >> >> the configure in the menu. >> >> >> Now I am using aterm, but I also want to use that font. >> >> >> >> >> >> I can see it by fc-list: >> >> >> >> >> >> [3:39pm:kemian] ~> fc-list | grep "Sans Mono" >> >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=3DBold >> >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=3DOblique >> >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=3DBold Oblique >> >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=3DRoman >> >> >> >> >> >> I add entry in .Xresources: >> >> >> >> >> >> Aterm*font: xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=3DRoman >> >> > >> >> > Use: >> >> > >> >> > Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream\ vera\ sans\ mono-medium-r-normal-= -16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15 >> >> > >> >> > in ~/.Xdefaults (all on one line). >> >> > >> >> >> >> aterm still complain can not find this font. >> >> >> >> > Then: >> >> > >> >> > $ xrdb -load >> > >> > Sorry. should have been: >> > >> > $ xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults >> > >> >> >> >> This command did not give any output, it held there and nothing happe= ned. >> >> I have to Ctrl+C to stop it. >> >> >> >> > >> >> > The size of the font can be varied by changing the 16 in that line. >> >> > >> >> > $ xlsfonts | less >> >> >> >> This did not give the output of "bitstream vera sans mono". >> > >> > Does the dir /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/ exist? >> > >> > If not you have to install: x11-fonts/bitstream-vera and follow the >> > instructions to change your xorg.conf and then restart X. >> > >> > If it exists, you have to add the dir to xorg.conf like so: >> > >> > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/" >> > >> > under the "Files" section. Restart X. >> > >> > X should read ~/.Xdefaults on start up & your font will be used for >> > aterm. >> > >> > xlsfonts should also now list the bitstream vera fonts. >> > >> > Regards, >> >> Thanks a lot, it works. >> There is no font path in the xorg.conf, and after I add them in, it come= s out. >> Another thing is, it did not recognize the "\ " to space, the " " will w= ork. >> The font line I am using is: >> Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream vera sans >> mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1 >> >> Though the font seems a little bigger than I suppose, anyway, it works. > > Hi Kemian, > > I'm glad you got it working. > > To change the size of the font, you want to change the the first 0 in > the line to the font size you require in pixels. E.g: I use: > > -bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859= -15 > > for a 16px font. I like it big! > > You can test it beforehand by using xfd (in ports if not already > installed) i.e: > > $ xfd -fn "-bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono\ > -medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15" > > Use iso8859-15 if you want =80 (the euro) in your character set. > >> >> Sorry for replying later due to lot of work these days. >> > > No worries. I assumed you'd got it to work. > >> -- >> Best wishes, >> Kemian > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > --=20 Best wishes, Kemian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 11:10:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C1E1065690 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alberto@greenant.info) Received: from averell.mail.tiscali.it (averell.mail.tiscali.it [213.205.33.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EBB8FC17 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alberto@greenant.info) Received: from [192.168.8.3] (84.223.96.140) by averell.mail.tiscali.it (8.0.016) id 484CEF2B0040A5DB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:58:18 +0200 Message-ID: <4853A44B.4070608@greenant.info> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:58:19 +0200 From: Alberto Rizzi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <484FCA1C.2080506@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:10:01 -0000 fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com ha scritto: > Hi all, > > I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows: > > T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB > nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), > Bluetooth, Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c > Li-Ion, I have a T61, T7100, 1GB RAM, integrated graphics, 3945ABG... > > My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm > from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling > and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. > I am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or > another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook. > > My questions are: > 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW, > wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important. > There are some problems with the 3945 wifi driver (wpi) but it works under 7-STABLE. If you have 4965AGN you need iwn driver which is only (i think) in -CURRENT (8.0) > 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux > Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many > commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux > binary compatibility stable enough for work ? > > Thanks a lot. I run Matlab (maybe R14SP3 or something similar) under FreeBSD 7-STABLE on this laptop with linux_base-fc4. I use i386 and not x64 Checkout freebsd-mobile mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 11:14:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7711065677 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:14:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailhub.rulez.sk (mailhub.rulez.sk [IPv6:2001:15c0:6672::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D736C8FC19 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:14:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C345C04C; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:14:35 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rulez.sk Received: from mailhub.rulez.sk ([78.47.53.106]) by localhost (genesis.rulez.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zD-8JN2crGsF; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:14:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from danger-pc (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: danger@rulez.sk) by mailhub.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5BB665C020; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:14:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:13:58 +0200 From: Daniel Gerzo X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.99.3) Professional Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1288741611.20080614131358@rulez.sk> To: Stanislav In-Reply-To: <319048390806120645p6dd2e2e3n983c13b793ccdf6b@mail.gmail.com> References: <319048390806120643n2033cfd1m795eaaf414c9f15c@mail.gmail.com> <319048390806120645p6dd2e2e3n983c13b793ccdf6b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: twe0 interrupt storm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Gerzo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:14:36 -0000 Hello Stanislav, Thursday, June 12, 2008, 3:45:36 PM, you wrote: > Hi, I have problem on FreeBSD 6.2, 7.0 with 3ware 8006-2LP RAID-1 controller: Is it MSI mobo by any cnance? I am seeing these interrupt storms on a few boxes (irq21 too, twe(4) or fxp(4) attached to these) with an Base Board Information Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERANTIONAL CO.,LTD Product Name: MS-7368 Version: 1.0 I was unable so far to fix this problem...seems like some hardware issue.... -- Best regards, Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 11:43:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D2A106566C for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:43:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from mail.skiltech.com (bunning.skiltech.com [65.36.251.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A71E8FC12 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D391425BF0C; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:43:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at skiltech.com Received: from mail.skiltech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bunning.skiltech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xvzBi4jFeoOE; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.177.30.12] (unknown [32.144.149.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1CB4025BEE6; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:43:36 -0400 (EDT) References: <200806140735.m5E7Zr2t019325@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu> <4853995B.8090701@boosten.org> Message-Id: From: Ryan Coleman To: Peter Boosten In-Reply-To: <4853995B.8090701@boosten.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (4A102) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 4A102) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:43:01 -0500 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Edward Lay Subject: Re: Unable to reach hosts outside my subnet after initial installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:43:46 -0000 -- Ryan Coleman editor@d3photography.com 612.618.5682 Sent from my iPhone On Jun 14, 2008, at 5:11 AM, Peter Boosten wrote: > > > Edward Lay wrote: >>> From: Derek Ragona >> It seems more like a router/gateway network configuration type of >> problem. I've just discovered that when I ping the gateway's IP >> address, I get no answer. Now I know the gateway is functioning as >> every other host on the network can reach the rest of the internet >> and >> in fact, I've just successfully ping'd the gateway from the machine >> where I'm writing this message. So I'm wondering what could cause >> this >> or at least some way of approaching the problem. > > netmask? > > Peter > -- > http://www.boosten.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " I sometimes have to add a route. To t Rc.conf or manually to /route/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 12:04:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17098106567A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pascal@clermont.cc) Received: from mail.clermont.cc (clermont.cc [69.70.120.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF50B8FC1E for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:04:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pascal@clermont.cc) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.clermont.cc (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB15F1CC38; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:08:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.clermont.cc ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.clermont.cc [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 33883-07; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:08:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dwarf.clermont.cc (dwarf.clermont.cc [192.168.100.10]) (Authenticated sender: pascal@clermont.cc) by mail.clermont.cc (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9FF221CC2E; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:08:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48537BAD.6020308@clermont.cc> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:05:01 +0000 From: Pascal S Clermont User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080606) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edward Lay , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200806140735.m5E7Zr2t019325@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <200806140735.m5E7Zr2t019325@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Unable to reach hosts outside my subnet after initial installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:04:33 -0000 Edward Lay wrote: >> From: Derek Ragona >> > > >> Check and/or create /etc/nsswitch.conf so you are looking in files and >> dns for hosts. >> > > >> Check or create /etc/resolv.conf make sure your upsteam DNS servers >> are listed in this file along with any local caching DNS servers. >> > > Thanks for the suggestion. Those files already exist with valid > entries though. In any event, it doesn't seem like a hostname problem > as I can nslookup arbitrary hosts and then try and then ping the IP > numbers directly which fails for hosts beyond the local subnet. > > It seems more like a router/gateway network configuration type of > problem. I've just discovered that when I ping the gateway's IP > address, I get no answer. Now I know the gateway is functioning as > every other host on the network can reach the rest of the internet and > in fact, I've just successfully ping'd the gateway from the machine > where I'm writing this message. So I'm wondering what could cause this > or at least some way of approaching the problem. > > thanks > > ed > > There are 3 things that need to be configured in order to have a network connection on an initial start, the IP, Gateway and Route. I am ruling out the fact that it might be the firewall, cause you state that this on an an initial install and I would try another ether cable if after this setup it still doesn't work. make sure both these entry are in your rc.conf : ifconfig_vr0="inet 192.168.0.100 netmask 255.255.255.0" defaultrouter="192.168.0.1" You will need to replace "vr0" by your network card, and replace all IPs for your own. if you modify the settings in the rc.conf you can execute /etc/netstart in order for the settings to take effect. Pascal S. Clermont From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 13:15:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DF41065678 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:15:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanislav@corp.n9.ru) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8168FC1D for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:15:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanislav@corp.n9.ru) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so3520377fgb.35 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.102.228.2 with SMTP id a2mr367319muh.79.1213449348098; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.247.10 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <319048390806140615u7ba5845am776cc88fadc6dd84@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:15:48 +0400 From: Stanislav To: "Daniel Gerzo" In-Reply-To: <1288741611.20080614131358@rulez.sk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <319048390806120643n2033cfd1m795eaaf414c9f15c@mail.gmail.com> <319048390806120645p6dd2e2e3n983c13b793ccdf6b@mail.gmail.com> <1288741611.20080614131358@rulez.sk> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: twe0 interrupt storm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:15:50 -0000 Dear Daniel, Yes, you're right: Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes System Information Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERANTIONAL CO.,LTD Product Name: MS-7368 Version: 1.0 Serial Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M. UUID: Not Present Wake-up Type: Power Switch SKU Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M. Family: To Be Filled By O.E.M. Thank you very much! Kind Regards 2008/6/14 Daniel Gerzo : > Hello Stanislav, > > Thursday, June 12, 2008, 3:45:36 PM, you wrote: > >> Hi, I have problem on FreeBSD 6.2, 7.0 with 3ware 8006-2LP RAID-1 controller: > > Is it MSI mobo by any cnance? > I am seeing these interrupt storms on a few boxes (irq21 too, twe(4) or > fxp(4) attached to these) with an > > Base Board Information > Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERANTIONAL CO.,LTD > Product Name: MS-7368 > Version: 1.0 > > I was unable so far to fix this problem...seems like some hardware > issue.... > > -- > Best regards, > Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 13:34:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CA01065681 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:34:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617FE8FC21 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:34:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 7689564; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:34:20 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 7689562; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:34:03 -0400 Message-ID: <4853C8CB.1020303@radel.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:34:03 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edward Lay References: <200806140735.m5E7Zr2t019325@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <200806140735.m5E7Zr2t019325@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010900050902020408020106" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to reach hosts outside my subnet after initial installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:34:21 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010900050902020408020106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Edward Lay wrote: >> From: Derek Ragona > >> Check and/or create /etc/nsswitch.conf so you are looking in files and >> dns for hosts. > >> Check or create /etc/resolv.conf make sure your upsteam DNS servers >> are listed in this file along with any local caching DNS servers. > > Thanks for the suggestion. Those files already exist with valid > entries though. In any event, it doesn't seem like a hostname problem > as I can nslookup arbitrary hosts and then try and then ping the IP > numbers directly which fails for hosts beyond the local subnet. > > It seems more like a router/gateway network configuration type of > problem. I've just discovered that when I ping the gateway's IP > address, I get no answer. Now I know the gateway is functioning as > every other host on the network can reach the rest of the internet and > in fact, I've just successfully ping'd the gateway from the machine > where I'm writing this message. So I'm wondering what could cause this > or at least some way of approaching the problem. Do you have access to the gateway? If so, can you ping the new machine from there? If not, check the arp table on the gateway to see if your new machine has shown up. Check that 128.32.157.5/32 routes the same place as the rest of the /24. Only things I can think of that haven't already been covered are firewalling on the gateway, a rogue route for the /32 on the gateway, and the arp table on the gateway being locked down or having a static entry (or really, really long expire times) for the IP address you've given newdewey. Ordinarily I'd worry that you had a longer netmask on the gateway than on your new machine, but with dewey at .3 (which works, yes?), newdewey at .5, and the gateway at .1, this would be hard to arrange. --Jon Radel --------------ms010900050902020408020106 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJMTCC AvMwggJcoAMCAQICEG2TkfF/93Sx9LCftry1D3YwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA4MDMyNDE2NTkyMVoX DTA5MDMyNDE2NTkyMVowXjEOMAwGA1UEBBMFUmFkZWwxEzARBgNVBCoTCkpvbiBUaG9tYXMx GTAXBgNVBAMTEEpvbiBUaG9tYXMgUmFkZWwxHDAaBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWDWpvbkByYWRlbC5j b20wggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDPdCxQufreHHDAI9YN2axx87Rf 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2008 07:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <319048390806140738g4afbf3ceneb2e436b887f5e88@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:38:10 +0400 From: FreeBSD Sender: stanislav@corp.n9.ru To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <319048390806140615u7ba5845am776cc88fadc6dd84@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <319048390806120643n2033cfd1m795eaaf414c9f15c@mail.gmail.com> <319048390806120645p6dd2e2e3n983c13b793ccdf6b@mail.gmail.com> <1288741611.20080614131358@rulez.sk> <319048390806140615u7ba5845am776cc88fadc6dd84@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7f4a97a49012a375 Subject: Re: Fwd: twe0 interrupt storm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:38:12 -0000 Be careful with hetzner.de hosting, here is their answer: The controller is compatible with the mainboard. With linux there are no problems. FreeBSD is also not officially supported by us (only Debian/Ubuntu/Suse). Sorry, but it is not possible to buy a new model only for a few customers. 2008/6/14 Stanislav : > Dear Daniel, > > Yes, you're right: > Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes > System Information > Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERANTIONAL CO.,LTD > Product Name: MS-7368 > Version: 1.0 > Serial Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M. > UUID: Not Present > Wake-up Type: Power Switch > SKU Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M. > Family: To Be Filled By O.E.M. > > Thank you very much! > > Kind Regards > > 2008/6/14 Daniel Gerzo : >> Hello Stanislav, >> >> Thursday, June 12, 2008, 3:45:36 PM, you wrote: >> >>> Hi, I have problem on FreeBSD 6.2, 7.0 with 3ware 8006-2LP RAID-1 controller: >> >> Is it MSI mobo by any cnance? >> I am seeing these interrupt storms on a few boxes (irq21 too, twe(4) or >> fxp(4) attached to these) with an >> >> Base Board Information >> Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERANTIONAL CO.,LTD >> Product Name: MS-7368 >> Version: 1.0 >> >> I was unable so far to fix this problem...seems like some hardware >> issue.... >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org >> >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 14:45:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A597B1065670 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:45:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from mail.skiltech.com (bunning.skiltech.com [65.36.251.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1C68FC1D for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:45:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCCC25BF1B for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:45:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at skiltech.com Received: from mail.skiltech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bunning.skiltech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9UljFKJ0h+YK for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:45:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (c-75-73-67-167.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [75.73.67.167]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4B46425BF28 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:45:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4853D980.9030304@cwis.biz> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:45:20 -0500 From: Ryan Coleman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Testing RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:45:29 -0000 As you've probably read in my previous posts I'm having issues, most likely with the RAM. How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing? I was figuring I'd drop from 4GB to 1GB and just push the board with the same cp -rvn commands I've been running in an attempt to populate my 7TB RAID5. Also, am I using the wrong FS for the RAID? I partitioned it with gpt (1 large slice) and formatted it with newfs but is there another way? A better way? I read about ZFS recently but I am sure the speed of reading from a RAID5 is lost with it's redundancies. TIA, Ryan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 14:48:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D761065671 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from bulwark.hamla.org (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3308FC18 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (bulwark [69.55.228.210]) by bulwark.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5AF1CCA8; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:48:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at bulwark.hamla.org Received: from bulwark.hamla.org ([69.55.228.210]) by localhost (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 8OlWlaQzo6VS; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:48:16 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20080614144815.GA2892@shepherd> Mail-Followup-To: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20080613225024.GA5175@thought.org> <20080614044723.GB14869@thought.org> <20080614045655.GC2482@shepherd> <20080614052716.GC14869@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080614052716.GC14869@thought.org> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: How do I install pphpBB2? [WAS: Re: okay, it's time to ask....] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:48:25 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > The only thing I seemto remember is that in 2003, phpBB2 was > installed withthe data directory, /usr/local/www/data/ > Now itis installed in theweb ``root'' irectory, /usr/local/www > > Below is what happened with lynx. > > p4 22:05 [2672] lynx http://localhost/phpBB2/ > 404 Not Found > Not Found > > The requested URL /phpBB2/ was not found on this server. What do your apache logs say about this? Look for an error associated with trying to find this phpBB2 location. Does it exist? Is your httpd.conf configured to make that location available? -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 14:59:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6EA7106564A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:59:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from bulwark.hamla.org (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9138FC34 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:59:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (bulwark [69.55.228.210]) by bulwark.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8C41CCA8; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:59:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at bulwark.hamla.org Received: from bulwark.hamla.org ([69.55.228.210]) by localhost (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id baf7ynbOcvhN; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:59:44 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080614145944.GB2892@shepherd> Mail-Followup-To: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080614102330.M15568@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080614102330.M15568@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/net/asterisk build problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:59:50 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > undefined reference to `__sync_fetch_and_add_4' > > anyone know where these __sync_* functions are? Do you set CPUTYPE in /etc/make.conf? There has been some discussion about this before; check the archives for some commonly suggested solutions. -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 15:03:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFC1106567A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB5A8FC21 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:03:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5EF3gtq017204; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:03:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E849BBAAA; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:03:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:03:41 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Ryan Coleman Message-ID: <20080614150341.GA28940@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4853D980.9030304@cwis.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AqsLC8rIMeq19msA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4853D980.9030304@cwis.biz> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Testing RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:03:50 -0000 --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 09:45:20AM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: > As you've probably read in my previous posts I'm having issues, most=20 > likely with the RAM. >=20 > How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing? I was figuring I'd=20 > drop from 4GB to 1GB and just push the board with the same cp -rvn=20 > commands I've been running in an attempt to populate my 7TB RAID5. Use sysutils/memtest86 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhT3c0ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXUqQCgqSEmKJEGVBS1C6QlV8M4E7D+ NB4AnjbJPoHvQSbnWEp9eIUWtzy8fHJ8 =VITM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 15:14:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31151065676 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:14:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from mail.skiltech.com (bunning.skiltech.com [65.36.251.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799078FC1B for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:14:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F79C25BFC6 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:14:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at skiltech.com Received: from mail.skiltech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bunning.skiltech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9abBcErdiBsC for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:14:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (c-75-73-67-167.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [75.73.67.167]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 295F225BF60 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4853E03A.3040307@cwis.biz> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:14:02 -0500 From: Ryan Coleman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 64-bit? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:14:10 -0000 I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well lately but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and you're willing to share (as am I). This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit version of fBSD I should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or should I go from scratch? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 15:22:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BB4106567B for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from holgerdanske.com (holgerdanske.com [65.19.145.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B9D0D8FC18 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:22:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dpchrist@holgerdanske.com) Received: from a64x23800p ([64.142.42.100]) by holgerdanske.com for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:02:27 -0700 From: "David Christensen" To: "'Ryan Coleman'" , References: <4853D980.9030304@cwis.biz> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:02:27 -0700 Message-ID: <6205A071D1B146D2B61C971615CCCD2E@a64x23800p> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 In-Reply-To: <4853D980.9030304@cwis.biz> Thread-Index: AcjOLVtCsKz6F4ACQamAZir3Py8H5gAAjTSw Cc: Subject: RE: Testing RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:22:39 -0000 Ryan Coleman wrote: > How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing? I use Memtest86 to test memory: http://www.memtest86.com/ HTH, David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 15:27:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF5A1065673 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:27:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from bulwark.hamla.org (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC2618FC17 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:27:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (bulwark [69.55.228.210]) by bulwark.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD12B1CCA8; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:27:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at bulwark.hamla.org Received: from bulwark.hamla.org ([69.55.228.210]) by localhost (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id p4I2nleg24Vn; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:27:47 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: Ryan Coleman Message-ID: <20080614152746.GC2892@shepherd> Mail-Followup-To: Ryan Coleman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4853E03A.3040307@cwis.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4853E03A.3040307@cwis.biz> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 64-bit? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:27:56 -0000 Ryan Coleman wrote: > I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well lately > but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and you're > willing to share (as am I). > > This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit > cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have > anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit version of fBSD I > should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or should I go from scratch? 6.3 supports 64-bit. http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.3R/announce.html -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 15:48:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682231065677 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2658FC0C; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:48:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4853E84D.80901@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:48:29 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ryan Coleman References: <4853E03A.3040307@cwis.biz> In-Reply-To: <4853E03A.3040307@cwis.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 64-bit? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:48:30 -0000 Ryan Coleman wrote: > I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well lately > but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and you're > willing to share (as am I). > > This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit > cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have > anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit version of > fBSD I should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or should I go from > scratch? 6.3 supports 64-bit amd64-compatible CPUs, and stability is on par with the 32-bit version. Besides which, amd64 CPUs are full backwards compatible when run in 32-bit mode, so this is not the source of your problems. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 15:49:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB1C1065671; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from mail.skiltech.com (bunning.skiltech.com [65.36.251.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3144D8FC13; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:49:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE4925BEDC; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:49:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at skiltech.com Received: from mail.skiltech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bunning.skiltech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g2RWb7L1fc0M; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:49:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-75-73-67-167.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [75.73.67.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 42CC9244E57; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:49:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4853E895.5030801@cwis.biz> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:49:41 -0500 From: Ryan Coleman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <4853E03A.3040307@cwis.biz> <4853E84D.80901@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4853E84D.80901@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 64-bit? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:49:44 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > Ryan Coleman wrote: >> I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well >> lately but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and >> you're willing to share (as am I). >> >> This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a >> 64-bit cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might >> this have anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit >> version of fBSD I should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or >> should I go from scratch? > > 6.3 supports 64-bit amd64-compatible CPUs, and stability is on par > with the 32-bit version. Besides which, amd64 CPUs are full backwards > compatible when run in 32-bit mode, so this is not the source of your > problems. > > Kris But will it upgrade or do I have to strike the current install and go again? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 15:50:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DDD21065677 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:50:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA658FC23 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5EFoIj5031123; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:50:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5EFoHNY031120; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:50:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:50:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <4853E03A.3040307@cwis.biz> Message-ID: <20080614174953.S30950@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <4853E03A.3040307@cwis.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 64-bit? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:50:31 -0000 On Sat, 14 Jun 2008, Ryan Coleman wrote: > I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well lately but > there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and you're willing to > share (as am I). > > This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit cpu, > but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have anything to > do with the crashes? you should run 64-bit version on 64-bit machine for performance, but 32-bit version should work fine too. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 15:54:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9A6106564A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:54:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from bulwark.hamla.org (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67918FC18 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:54:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (bulwark [69.55.228.210]) by bulwark.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8647E1CCA8 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:54:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at bulwark.hamla.org Received: from bulwark.hamla.org ([69.55.228.210]) by localhost (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id UmYuhYjzaDtR for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:54:34 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080614155433.GB3065@shepherd> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4853E03A.3040307@cwis.biz> <4853E84D.80901@FreeBSD.org> <4853E895.5030801@cwis.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4853E895.5030801@cwis.biz> Subject: Re: 64-bit? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:54:38 -0000 Ryan Coleman wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: >> Ryan Coleman wrote: >>> I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well lately >>> but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and you're >>> willing to share (as am I). >>> >>> This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit >>> cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have >>> anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit version of fBSD >>> I should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or should I go from scratch? >> >> 6.3 supports 64-bit amd64-compatible CPUs, and stability is on par with >> the 32-bit version. Besides which, amd64 CPUs are full backwards >> compatible when run in 32-bit mode, so this is not the source of your >> problems. >> >> Kris > > But will it upgrade or do I have to strike the current install and go again? An upgrade may be possible, but a new installation is "recommended". Search the archives at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-amd64/ for context. -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 16:02:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4040106567B for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from mail.skiltech.com (bunning.skiltech.com [65.36.251.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F358FC0C for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:02:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A7725BEDC for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:02:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at skiltech.com Received: from mail.skiltech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bunning.skiltech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n2V7QXFFBw1K for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:02:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-75-73-67-167.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [75.73.67.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 76B7225BED4 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:02:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4853EB91.5000800@cwis.biz> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:02:25 -0500 From: Ryan Coleman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4853E03A.3040307@cwis.biz> <4853E84D.80901@FreeBSD.org> <4853E895.5030801@cwis.biz> <20080614155433.GB3065@shepherd> In-Reply-To: <20080614155433.GB3065@shepherd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 64-bit? [Thanks!] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:02:30 -0000 Thanks everyone! I'm going to do a fresh install to a new drive that I am picking up in an hour or so from a local retailer. -- Ryan Sahil Tandon wrote: > Ryan Coleman wrote: > > >> Kris Kennaway wrote: >> >>> Ryan Coleman wrote: >>> >>>> I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well lately >>>> but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and you're >>>> willing to share (as am I). >>>> >>>> This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit >>>> cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have >>>> anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit version of fBSD >>>> I should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or should I go from scratch? >>>> >>> 6.3 supports 64-bit amd64-compatible CPUs, and stability is on par with >>> the 32-bit version. Besides which, amd64 CPUs are full backwards >>> compatible when run in 32-bit mode, so this is not the source of your >>> problems. >>> >>> Kris >>> >> But will it upgrade or do I have to strike the current install and go again? >> > > An upgrade may be possible, but a new installation is "recommended". Search > the archives at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-amd64/ for context. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 16:26:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3A21065684 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BE98FC19 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:26:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5EGQCos016873 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:26:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5EGQC8l016814 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:26:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:26:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <20080614145944.GB2892@shepherd> Message-ID: <20080614182607.R14658@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080614102330.M15568@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080614145944.GB2892@shepherd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: ports/net/asterisk build problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:26:17 -0000 works. thank you very much! On Sat, 14 Jun 2008, Sahil Tandon wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> undefined reference to `__sync_fetch_and_add_4' >> >> anyone know where these __sync_* functions are? > > Do you set CPUTYPE in /etc/make.conf? There has been some discussion about > this before; check the archives for some commonly suggested solutions. > > -- > Sahil Tandon > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 16:30:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230EF1065670 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:30:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+W4=8ff14f2c@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2828FC0C for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:30:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+W4=8ff14f2c@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DCE923E4A0 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:30:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:30:23 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080614173023.63617572@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <4853EB91.5000800@cwis.biz> References: <4853E03A.3040307@cwis.biz> <4853E84D.80901@FreeBSD.org> <4853E895.5030801@cwis.biz> <20080614155433.GB3065@shepherd> <4853EB91.5000800@cwis.biz> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 64-bit? [Thanks!] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:30:58 -0000 On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:02:25 -0500 Ryan Coleman wrote: > Thanks everyone! > > I'm going to do a fresh install to a new drive that I am picking up > in an hour or so from a local retailer. If this is a server than you almost certainly should go with the 64 bit version. If it's for a desktop then I would suggest you search the list for the pros and cons - I'm not going to go into them, it's been done to death. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 16:31:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F00C106567A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:31:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E808FC1E; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:31:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4853F260.6070404@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:31:28 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ryan Coleman References: <4853E03A.3040307@cwis.biz> <4853E84D.80901@FreeBSD.org> <4853E895.5030801@cwis.biz> In-Reply-To: <4853E895.5030801@cwis.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 64-bit? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:31:30 -0000 Ryan Coleman wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: >> Ryan Coleman wrote: >>> I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well >>> lately but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and >>> you're willing to share (as am I). >>> >>> This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a >>> 64-bit cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might >>> this have anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit >>> version of fBSD I should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or >>> should I go from scratch? >> >> 6.3 supports 64-bit amd64-compatible CPUs, and stability is on par >> with the 32-bit version. Besides which, amd64 CPUs are full backwards >> compatible when run in 32-bit mode, so this is not the source of your >> problems. >> >> Kris > But will it upgrade or do I have to strike the current install and go > again? Easiest thing is to reinstall. I wouldn't bother until you have fixed your hardware though -- you'll just be wasting your time. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 17:17:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D175D1065675 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-102.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-102.bluehost.com [69.89.22.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A237E8FC1F for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 27342 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jun 2008 17:17:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Jun 2008 17:17:47 -0000 Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K7ZNr-0007VU-8w for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:17:47 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:13:17 -0600 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:13:17 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080614171317.GA17594@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080611211821.GB25793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <4850E104.2090201@gmail.com> <20080612113725.J4402@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4851B872.2090101@onetel.com> <20080613110158.K86321@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080613165119.GA31171@kokopelli.hydra> <20080613100811.0fb23892@gom.home> <20080613202844.P2744@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080613223944.GA22516@kokopelli.hydra> <20080614094736.T3207@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KsGdsel6WgEHnImy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080614094736.T3207@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} DomainKey-Status: no signature Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:17:49 -0000 --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 09:48:10AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >. . . but you'd still get a "cooler" desktop by going with something > >else, like MacOS X, Ubuntu, or PC-BSD (in increasing order of "coolness" > >in the glitzy, unnecessary dancing rodents sense) without having to > >actually express any personal preferences during setup. >=20 > so even better - let FreeBSD be like it is. There's a reason I use FreeBSD rather than PC-BSD, or any of the others I mentioned. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Common Reformulation of Greenspun's Tenth Rule: Any sufficiently complicated non-Lisp program contains an ad hoc informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of Common Lisp. --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhT/C0ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW7WgCfQN0vfcClG+kd5xsCg61LWAiH sDQAnA506obt7gwRSVYj1v/knvdbpQhg =116w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 17:20:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2426C1065677 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:20:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-18.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-18.bluehost.com [69.89.20.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3A488FC1A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:20:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 4509 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jun 2008 17:20:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Jun 2008 17:20:47 -0000 Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K7ZQl-0008D5-Ho for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:20:47 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:16:17 -0600 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:16:17 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20080614171617.GB17594@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20080614060647.GA23927@kokopelli.hydra> <991123400806132353l5a1ecc5by6c25114f004f4aab@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ftEhullJWpWg/VHq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <991123400806132353l5a1ecc5by6c25114f004f4aab@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} DomainKey-Status: no signature Subject: Re: Two xorg-server packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:20:50 -0000 --ftEhullJWpWg/VHq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 09:53:06AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > When did you lastly update your ports tree using any of the different > methods available? I run `portsnap fetch update` (among other things) almost daily, and did so yesterday a couple of times in the course of trying to figure out what's going on with that particular Xorg package before sending a message to the list about it. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Bjarne Stroustrup: "An ugly operation should have an ugly syntactic form." --ftEhullJWpWg/VHq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhT/OEACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVtwwCfV3z3Q4Gwu+cOuPipNmYdUHEU +TUAn0qGJNYt2iiv9R2QvjmSB18xCpCH =Q2St -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ftEhullJWpWg/VHq-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 17:28:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881791065671 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:28:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB078FC21; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:28:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4853FFAD.5000007@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:28:13 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <4853E03A.3040307@cwis.biz> <20080614174953.S30950@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080614174953.S30950@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ryan Coleman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 64-bit? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:28:14 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2008, Ryan Coleman wrote: > >> I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well >> lately but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and >> you're willing to share (as am I). >> >> This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a >> 64-bit cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this >> have anything to do with the crashes? > > you should run 64-bit version on 64-bit machine for performance This is workload-dependent. Some workloads run more slowly on a 64-bit CPU, others faster. Kris >, but > 32-bit version should work fine too. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 18:02:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B552C106566C for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0F48FC15 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5EI27GF020260 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:02:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200806141802.m5EI27GF020260@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:02:07 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: ssh Public Keys Suddenly Stopped working for one account. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:02:08 -0000 We have an account on several FreeBSD systems that is used for automation. Several systems can talk to each other via ssh by using public keys so that scripts don't have to hold passwords. Last night, an account that has been working for years suddenly won't let any of its cyber cohorts in without a password. I bet I accidentally changed something sometime, but I can't figure out what. The public keys hadn't changed since 2005 although today, I blew them all away and made new ones which still don't work on this one system but work on all others. There is no password expiration timeout (the first thing I thought of) since the account is several years old. All other accounts on this same system with public keys from their remote partners still work fine. The ownership and permissions look right on the account directory. Does this sound familiar and what else am I missing? I can telnet in to the account on the localhost via the usual password which you can't do on an expired account. I even did a stupid sort of measure which was to reset the password to itself and that didn't change anything. Many thanks for other suggestions. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 18:15:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739481065676 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:15:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd2mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7EE8FC14 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:15:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd3mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr2so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.178]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0K2G0048ITE1GGE0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:15:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml2so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.146]) by pd3mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0K2G0086TTE16520@pd3mr2so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:15:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from gom.home ([70.67.160.176]) by l-daemon (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0K2G002CETDZMW00@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:15:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from gom.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gom.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559C4B839 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:15:28 -0700 From: prad In-reply-to: <200806141802.m5EI27GF020260@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <20080614111528.5ac7f765@gom.home> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <200806141802.m5EI27GF020260@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Subject: Re: ssh Public Keys Suddenly Stopped working for one account. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:15:53 -0000 On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:02:07 -0500 Martin McCormick wrote: > All other accounts on this same system with public keys > from their remote partners still work fine. > > The ownership and permissions look right on the account > directory. > how about on the client computer? for instance, id_rsa is supposed to be 600. the ownership should be set for the account on .ssh and authorized_keys. > Does this sound familiar and what else am I missing? > we had only one problem getting a mac to log in which was strange. the client generated the id_rsa.pub and id_rsa keys. it wouldn't work - and apparently all the permissions were set correctly at both ends. so we did the whole thing from scratch again - and this time it worked. conclusion: the system is picky about the rsa key. :D :D -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 18:43:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6E610656AA for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:43:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74AE8FC28 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5EIhYV6038716; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:43:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080614134055.024997f0@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:43:28 -0500 To: Martin McCormick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <200806141802.m5EI27GF020260@dc.cis.okstate.edu> References: <200806141802.m5EI27GF020260@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93/6806/Wed Apr 16 15:50:16 2008 on betty.computinginnovations.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: m5EIhYV6038716 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: ssh Public Keys Suddenly Stopped working for one account. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:43:59 -0000 At 01:02 PM 6/14/2008, Martin McCormick wrote: > We have an account on several FreeBSD systems that is >used for automation. Several systems can talk to each other via >ssh by using public keys so that scripts don't have to hold >passwords. > > Last night, an account that has been working for years >suddenly won't let any of its cyber cohorts in without a >password. > > I bet I accidentally changed something sometime, but I >can't figure out what. > > The public keys hadn't changed since 2005 although >today, I blew them all away and made new ones which still don't >work on this one system but work on all others. > > There is no password expiration timeout (the first thing >I thought of) since the account is several years old. > > All other accounts on this same system with public keys >from their remote partners still work fine. > > The ownership and permissions look right on the account >directory. > > Does this sound familiar and what else am I missing? > > I can telnet in to the account on the localhost via the >usual password which you can't do on an expired account. > > I even did a stupid sort of measure which was to reset >the password to itself and that didn't change anything. > > Many thanks for other suggestions. > >Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK >Systems Engineer >OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group If you upgraded one system to a new major version (sometimes point releases will cause a problem too) the system will regenerate its keys, so you need to then propagate the new keys. Other than that, if you have a drive error causing the key files to not be readable is the only other time I've seen this problem. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 18:57:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B6A1065672; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:57:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A3F8FC12; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5EIvQV7044354; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:57:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5EIvPJh044276; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:57:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:57:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <4853FFAD.5000007@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <20080614205615.J35816@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <4853E03A.3040307@cwis.biz> <20080614174953.S30950@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4853FFAD.5000007@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Ryan Coleman , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 64-bit? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:57:36 -0000 >> >> you should run 64-bit version on 64-bit machine for performance > > This is workload-dependent. Some workloads run more slowly on a 64-bit CPU, > others faster. could you please give an example of slower running FreeBSD/amd64 thing than FreeBSD/i386? there are more memory usage sometimes, that's why i use 32-bit squid binary on 64-bit systems From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 18:58:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEA91065674 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:58:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0998FC0C for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:58:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5EIwke7045770 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:58:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5EIwkx0045767 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:58:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:58:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080614205751.D35816@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: sendmail's outgoing IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:58:52 -0000 is it possible to make sendmail choose it's outgoing IP when sending mail from list of four in random or round-robin way? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 19:01:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514E71065673 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:01:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173A18FC17 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:01:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at inter-sonic.com Message-ID: <485412BD.9050403@intersonic.se> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:49:33 +0200 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080427) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin McCormick References: <200806141802.m5EI27GF020260@dc.cis.okstate.edu> In-Reply-To: <200806141802.m5EI27GF020260@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh Public Keys Suddenly Stopped working for one account. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:01:12 -0000 Martin McCormick wrote: > We have an account on several FreeBSD systems that is > used for automation. Several systems can talk to each other via > ssh by using public keys so that scripts don't have to hold > passwords. > > Last night, an account that has been working for years > suddenly won't let any of its cyber cohorts in without a > password. > > I bet I accidentally changed something sometime, but I > can't figure out what. > > The public keys hadn't changed since 2005 although > today, I blew them all away and made new ones which still don't > work on this one system but work on all others. > > There is no password expiration timeout (the first thing > I thought of) since the account is several years old. > > All other accounts on this same system with public keys > from their remote partners still work fine. > > The ownership and permissions look right on the account > directory. > > Does this sound familiar and what else am I missing? > > I can telnet in to the account on the localhost via the > usual password which you can't do on an expired account. > > I even did a stupid sort of measure which was to reset > the password to itself and that didn't change anything. > > Many thanks for other suggestions. cat /var/log/auth.log ? --per From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 19:11:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB821065680 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agus.262@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C498FC18 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from agus.262@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so5359772rvf.43 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:11:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=X2Oyx/fucnRmw88SjuhI4gDiHbh2u0mEigynellyhXc=; b=kgVl7jDKFgXvYjih0vpsmBaQ9WPZ/EKvvXo/7rkbaS3FCd9bWvL3JeuWWJ9BhsLzQQ q1t+Mpq+czCL2h0Pp9XW8Tv+9rEAyXv3IPePomop5WPuaKqtajYN2pGzL0RTH2nOmg+x vPfIBQEBx7iMhijqq0mxXE0R3f5xQh5x2o4EA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=NpdD7xgfe6V6agC5Sv8DZ8JaOO3ALzNDpCC9STX3247KUR1gVzvaAJqNGnPFJACPgv hcVdhO6M/JCZPIWoDT+XIOpwEk2OoHLpj+Xtw2Uj/bowiIiG9lLgf0qL3833mOcA/CfA vCsfGPY3hPCu2JfgK/j5CAsxt+uS99jY/a0IM= Received: by 10.140.199.3 with SMTP id w3mr2720497rvf.43.1213470691112; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.141.21 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:11:31 -0300 From: Agus To: "User Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Doubt about hanged ESTABLISHED connections on netstat... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:11:31 -0000 Hi guys, Today i was on my Freebsd6.1 logged from my notebook through SSH...somehow i lost my Internet connection on my laptop; i realized that, cause i couldnt type anything on ssh so i checked and i had lost internet connection....I reset my router..connect through Internet, now working, to my BSD again and i can see the old connections as ESTABLISHED.....They are hanged there cause of the loss of my connection i guess....So my doubt and question was; Is this normal behaviour, who is "in charge" of managing this? the TCP stack, or can i config SSH...If someone who's got the time and willing to explain, share thoughts about this, i ll be grateful... Cheers, Agustin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 19:29:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F701065685 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:29:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B86E8FC21; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <48541C05.9040503@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:29:09 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <4853E03A.3040307@cwis.biz> <20080614174953.S30950@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4853FFAD.5000007@FreeBSD.org> <20080614205615.J35816@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080614205615.J35816@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ryan Coleman , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 64-bit? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:29:10 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>> >>> you should run 64-bit version on 64-bit machine for performance >> >> This is workload-dependent. Some workloads run more slowly on a >> 64-bit CPU, others faster. > could you please give an example of slower running FreeBSD/amd64 thing > than FreeBSD/i386? > > there are more memory usage sometimes, that's why i use 32-bit squid > binary on 64-bit systems Precisely that. If your application relies on memory I/O, it may run slower because data is typically bigger so takes longer to copy. Some java applications can fall into this category, for example. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 19:33:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DC91065673; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:33:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BED8FC28; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:33:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5EJX485059501; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:33:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5EJX4Oo059498; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:33:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:33:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <48541C05.9040503@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: <20080614213231.T58976@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <4853E03A.3040307@cwis.biz> <20080614174953.S30950@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <4853FFAD.5000007@FreeBSD.org> <20080614205615.J35816@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <48541C05.9040503@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Ryan Coleman , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 64-bit? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:33:13 -0000 >> there are more memory usage sometimes, that's why i use 32-bit squid binary >> on 64-bit systems > > Precisely that. If your application relies on memory I/O, it may run slower > because data is typically bigger so takes longer to copy. Some java > applications can fall into this category, for example. > > Kris > > thanks. i don't know if squid runs slower (it consumes little CPU anyway) but 64-bit version takes 30% more RAM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 20:25:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DEE106564A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:25:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563A68FC28 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:25:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5EKPLt3047611 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:25:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200806142025.m5EKPLt3047611@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <47609.1213475121.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:25:21 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: ssh Public Keys Suddenly Stopped working for one account. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:25:22 -0000 Per olof Ljungmark writes: > cat /var/log/auth.log ? Thank you! This makes me feel down-right stupid. It just slipped my mind. I've kind of gotten out of the habit of looking at auth.log since we put the system in question behind a firewall and it is not accessible from the general Internet any more. sshd[1746]: Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory /usr/home/automation I said that the ownership looked okay for that directory. It needed to be 755 so everybody on the system in question can at least look at files in it. Somehow, yesterday or the day before, I accidentally had it set to 775 which is not good. I think I remember realizing I was in the wrong directory, once, and that may have been when I did it. sshd and sendmail will both refuse to operate on files that are writable by other than the owner. I had looked at those permissions several times and the fact that it was drwxrwxr-x instead of drwxr-xr-x hadn't sunk in yet. Many thanks. Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 20:38:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDBA106566B for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2408FC1B for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5EKc0sP016132; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:38:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:37:54 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20080614203754.GB42682@thought.org> References: <20080613225024.GA5175@thought.org> <20080614044723.GB14869@thought.org> <20080614045655.GC2482@shepherd> <20080614052716.GC14869@thought.org> <20080614144815.GA2892@shepherd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080614144815.GA2892@shepherd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21++ years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Subject: Re: How do I install pphpBB2? [WAS: Re: okay, it's time to ask....] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:38:03 -0000 On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 10:48:16AM -0400, Sahil Tandon wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > > The only thing I seemto remember is that in 2003, phpBB2 was > > installed withthe data directory, /usr/local/www/data/ > > Now itis installed in theweb ``root'' irectory, /usr/local/www > > > > Below is what happened with lynx. > > > > p4 22:05 [2672] lynx http://localhost/phpBB2/ > > 404 Not Found > > Not Found > > > > The requested URL /phpBB2/ was not found on this server. > > What do your apache logs say about this? Look for an error associated with > trying to find this phpBB2 location. Does it exist? Is your httpd.conf > configured to make that location available? > ah, good point! hadn't thought of checing the error log. Below is the entry from 11june08. (10.47.0.250 == my jail, aristotle.) what to i add to httpd.conf? sorry, but i'veforgotten if i needed to had to set up my three phpbb forms as "virtual pages" {or whatever} ; also there are diffs between apacche13 and apache22. my lan volunteer set up apache22 when my network collapsed lastt winter and i did not watch. Hm. The virtual sites have been moved to the apache22 subdir ./Includes/httpd-local.conf. AllowOverride None Order Allow,deny Allow from all AllowOverride None Order Allow,deny Allow from all AllowOverride None Order Allow,deny Allow from all ..... so, doi set up myphpbb[23] here?? ==== you know, i shoull have but didn't have a copy of my original httpd.conf. well, live && learn. ~ p4 13:17 [2683] gr phpbb error.log /var/log/httpd 32327:[Wed Jun 11 17:20:18 2008] [error] [client 10.47.0.250] File does not exist: /usr/local/www/thought.org/phpbb 32328:[Wed Jun 11 17:20:42 2008] [error] [client 10.47.0.250] File does not exist: /usr/local/www/thought.org/phpbb3 > -- > Sahil Tandon -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 21:01:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770B3106568C for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:01:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from bulwark.hamla.org (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E96E8FC15 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:01:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (bulwark [69.55.228.210]) by bulwark.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88471CCA8; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:01:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at bulwark.hamla.org Received: from bulwark.hamla.org ([69.55.228.210]) by localhost (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id yV1Ro3Br4BnN; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:01:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:01:43 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080614210137.GB3520@shepherd> Mail-Followup-To: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080614205751.D35816@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080614205751.D35816@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail's outgoing IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:01:53 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > is it possible to make sendmail choose it's outgoing IP when sending mail > from list of four in random or round-robin way? What problem are you trying to solve? And this really is a question for the sendmail mailing list. :-) -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 21:08:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7B11065680 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:08:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from bulwark.hamla.org (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A3F8FC0C for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:08:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (bulwark [69.55.228.210]) by bulwark.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9331CCA8; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:08:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at bulwark.hamla.org Received: from bulwark.hamla.org ([69.55.228.210]) by localhost (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id fgqJxzRosFOf; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:08:03 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20080614210803.GC3520@shepherd> Mail-Followup-To: Gary Kline , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <20080613225024.GA5175@thought.org> <20080614044723.GB14869@thought.org> <20080614045655.GC2482@shepherd> <20080614052716.GC14869@thought.org> <20080614144815.GA2892@shepherd> <20080614203754.GB42682@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080614203754.GB42682@thought.org> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How do I install pphpBB2? [WAS: Re: okay, it's time to ask....] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:08:10 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > > AllowOverride None > Order Allow,deny > Allow from all > > > > AllowOverride None > Order Allow,deny > Allow from all > > > > AllowOverride None > Order Allow,deny > Allow from all > > > > ..... > > > so, doi set up myphpbb[23] here?? Perhaps. > 32327:[Wed Jun 11 17:20:18 2008] [error] [client 10.47.0.250] File does > not exist: /usr/local/www/thought.org/phpbb That seems pretty clear to me. Apache is looking for phpbb in /usr/local/www/thought.org/phpbb, where it does not exist. Fix that or configure apache to look in the appropriate location. -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 21:14:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D364106567E for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DAB8FC0C for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5ELE6Zu020787; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:14:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.5.5 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m5ELE6Zu020787 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1213478047; bh=OL9LVa0HZ9lwAn TpvjK+iNe47pWZL83lOYfMcY6MK9k=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<48543496.4040405@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sat,=2 014=20Jun=202008=2022:13:58=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080607)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Wojciech=20Puchar=20|CC:=2 0freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20sendmail's=20outgoi ng=20IPs|References:=20<20080614205751.D35816@wojtek.tensor.gdynia. pl>|In-Reply-To:=20<20080614205751.D35816@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>| X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20 micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signatur e"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig7CFCC4AD8F5D579F28790F3E" ; b=Z2iS2dEGUa+D8I8vKoEdaC1IVmo0pu8wo31y/JIBDUVU8AvZdg5qe0kYSieeC1w GMgO5YrGfFiyxkl12oOZbzgDO2Rh6CVD9GMdDGZrmoOlumbNioMjfWfFTEz6PgKsiqm ky/vYJcmYx9B91gQSeiDfwOx4i8gwiPbLuRZdulWA= Message-ID: <48543496.4040405@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:13:58 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080607) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20080614205751.D35816@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20080614205751.D35816@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7CFCC4AD8F5D579F28790F3E" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:14:07 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93, clamav-milter version 0.93 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail's outgoing IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:14:15 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7CFCC4AD8F5D579F28790F3E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wojciech Puchar wrote: > is it possible to make sendmail choose it's outgoing IP when sending=20 > mail from list of four in random or round-robin way? Not easily. sendmail(8) defaults to binding to all IPs on the machine (INADDR_ANY) and the IP it will use to send with will just be whatever would be the default from the routing table to reach the destination. You can control what interfaces sendmail will listen on by using the DAEMON_OPTIONS() macro in /etc/mail/$(hostname).mc and you can set what IP number the machine will use as the origin address using the CLIENT_OPTIONS() macro. However, CLIENT_OPTIONS() doesn't give you any method of cycling through multiple IP numbers. What could you do? Run four instances of sendmail in different jails as outgoing mail relays, each bound to a different IP. Supposing your server is called 'smtp.your.dom.ain' then you can make that an A record which returns those 4 different IP numbers. Clients looking the server up in the DNS will get a randomised list of IPs (or round-robin, depending on the configuration of the DNS servers you're using). Alternatively you can use one instance of sendmail and do NAT tricks to rewrite the packets on the way out of the firewall. See http://www.op= enbsd.org/faq/pf/nat.html and the 'NAT LOAD BALANCE' example in pf.conf(5). Note however that you should take care to ensure that the hostname your MTA helos as matches whatever IP or IPs are ultimately used in the connection to the other MTA, or your message may well be refused as likely to be spam. There are also recipes I've seen on the comp.mail.sendmail newsgroup for running sendmail with multiple virtual identities depending on the sender address of the e-mail, which isn't exactly what you asked for but might be good enough. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig7CFCC4AD8F5D579F28790F3E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkhUNJ4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIw9+gCcCwREI97Suvejqzk4RMq6QdSV q80AmwSz1DZf4g7UOhZxU/wYDkCmJe5p =V5lj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7CFCC4AD8F5D579F28790F3E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 21:19:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047EC1065680 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:19:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Received: from cartman.xxiii.com (cartman.xxiii.com [208.62.177.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31428FC0A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:19:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.97] (adsl-068-209-177-221.sip.ard.bellsouth.net [68.209.177.221]) by cartman.xxiii.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5ELIx5H062741; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:18:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Message-ID: <485435C8.6060300@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:19:04 -0400 From: Rob User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ryan Coleman References: <4853E03A.3040307@cwis.biz> In-Reply-To: <4853E03A.3040307@cwis.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 64-bit? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:19:08 -0000 Ryan Coleman wrote: > This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit > cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have All AMD & Intel "x86" processors made in the last several years have the traditional x86 32 bit instruction set, as well as AMD's 64 bit set. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64 -R From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 21:30:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D8F1065678 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:30:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE528FC1D for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:29:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5ELTubM058758 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:29:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5ELTtg7058707 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:29:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:29:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <20080614210137.GB3520@shepherd> Message-ID: <20080614232908.Y51399@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080614205751.D35816@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080614210137.GB3520@shepherd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: sendmail's outgoing IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:30:00 -0000 >> from list of four in random or round-robin way? > > What problem are you trying to solve? And this really is a question for the i have 3 different links to ISP all are ADSL's so outgoing bandwidth is low, i would like to spread the load generated by outgoing mails. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 21:30:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181B4106564A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:30:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6FF8FC12 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5ELUgY2060254; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:30:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5ELUgdj060251; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:30:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:30:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <48543496.4040405@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: <20080614233016.L51399@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080614205751.D35816@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <48543496.4040405@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail's outgoing IPs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:30:47 -0000 > What could you do? Run four instances of sendmail in different jails > as outgoing mail relays, each bound to a different IP. Supposing your that's what i was thinking about, but believed there is smarted method. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 22:03:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9C21065671 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+W4=8ff14f2c@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722E48FC1D for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+W4=8ff14f2c@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C8A163DFF for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:47:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2468523E4AF for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:47:42 +0100 From: RW To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080614224742.17316919@gumby.homeunix.com.> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.10; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: md devices mounted with async X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:03:45 -0000 mdmfs(8) has an example of a malloc-backed md device mounted with the async option. Is there any point in doing this with malloc and vnode devices? In neither case does a write to the file-system require a write to a physical disk. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 22:03:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C78106567A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:03:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vulpes.vvelox.net (vulpes.vvelox.NET [74.200.198.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1988FC1C for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:03:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42 (c-68-51-74-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net [68.51.74.1]) (Authenticated sender: v.velox) by vulpes.vvelox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CE3B83E; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:58:23 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:57:49 -0500 From: "Zane C.B." To: Chad Perrin Message-ID: <20080614165749.72916b3a@vixen42> In-Reply-To: <20080614060647.GA23927@kokopelli.hydra> References: <20080614060647.GA23927@kokopelli.hydra> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Two xorg-server packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:03:51 -0000 On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:06:47 -0600 Chad Perrin wrote: > I seem to have two xorg-server packages on a FreeBSD system of > mine, and I'm not sure why. With one of them, there's no problem: > > xorg-server-1.4_10,1 = up-to-date with port > > One of them won't upgrade: > > xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1 < needs updating (port has > 1.2.99.903_2,1) > > ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-servers/xorg-server-snap: > is outdated > ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) > - x11-servers/xorg-server-snap (marked as IGNORE) > > . . . and portaudit says it's vulnerable: > > Affected package: xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1 > Type of problem: xorg -- multiple vulnerabilities. > Reference: > > > Why do I have this xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1 package? It appears > to be nothing but an older version. Should I remove it, or figure > out how to upgrade it? Is it actually just an older version of the > same package, or is it a different/separate package entirely? > > Any help figuring this out would be appreciated. I would just compile x11-server/xorg-server and once it is done do a pkg_delete on xorg-server-snap. Then install xorg-server/xorg-server. What it is complaining about is x11-servers/xorg-server-snap being marked as to be ignored, which it should be now as it is a out of date snap shot of xorg-server from some time back. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 22:08:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF333106567C for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vulpes.vvelox.net (vulpes.vvelox.NET [74.200.198.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17CE8FC0C for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42 (c-68-51-74-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net [68.51.74.1]) (Authenticated sender: v.velox) by vulpes.vvelox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32F1B83B; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:54:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:54:08 -0500 From: "Zane C.B." To: Ryan Coleman Message-ID: <20080614165408.55e74f8d@vixen42> In-Reply-To: <4853D980.9030304@cwis.biz> References: <4853D980.9030304@cwis.biz> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Testing RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:08:52 -0000 On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:45:20 -0500 Ryan Coleman wrote: > How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing? I was figuring > I'd drop from 4GB to 1GB and just push the board with the same cp > -rvn commands I've been running in an attempt to populate my 7TB > RAID5. > > Also, am I using the wrong FS for the RAID? I partitioned it with > gpt (1 large slice) and formatted it with newfs but is there > another way? A better way? I read about ZFS recently but I am sure > the speed of reading from a RAID5 is lost with it's redundancies. For something that large, ZFS would be my choice. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 22:11:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1270B1065676 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from mail.skiltech.com (bunning.skiltech.com [65.36.251.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0B38FC17 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:11:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C2F25C0A8; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:11:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at skiltech.com Received: from mail.skiltech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bunning.skiltech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VGDZ3MkK3hos; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:11:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (c-66-41-254-193.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [66.41.254.193]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B7C4725C083; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:11:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48544214.4070409@cwis.biz> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:11:32 -0500 From: Ryan Coleman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Zane C.B." References: <4853D980.9030304@cwis.biz> <20080614165408.55e74f8d@vixen42> In-Reply-To: <20080614165408.55e74f8d@vixen42> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Testing RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:11:35 -0000 Zane C.B. wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:45:20 -0500 > Ryan Coleman wrote: > > >> How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing? I was figuring >> I'd drop from 4GB to 1GB and just push the board with the same cp >> -rvn commands I've been running in an attempt to populate my 7TB >> RAID5. >> >> Also, am I using the wrong FS for the RAID? I partitioned it with >> gpt (1 large slice) and formatted it with newfs but is there >> another way? A better way? I read about ZFS recently but I am sure >> the speed of reading from a RAID5 is lost with it's redundancies. >> > > For something that large, ZFS would be my choice I take it that's not something I can do after the fact, right? I am not looking forward to redoing 1.6TB in file copying a second time From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 22:13:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1621065673 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:13:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-35.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-35.bluehost.com [69.89.18.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FCD88FC16 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:13:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 8398 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jun 2008 22:13:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Jun 2008 22:13:02 -0000 Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K7dzZ-0007HT-Of for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:13:01 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:08:33 -0600 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:08:33 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20080614220833.GA4587@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20080614060647.GA23927@kokopelli.hydra> <20080614165749.72916b3a@vixen42> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FCuugMFkClbJLl1L" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080614165749.72916b3a@vixen42> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} DomainKey-Status: no signature Subject: Re: Two xorg-server packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:13:04 -0000 --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 04:57:49PM -0500, Zane C.B. wrote: >=20 > I would just compile x11-server/xorg-server and once it is done do a > pkg_delete on xorg-server-snap. Then install > xorg-server/xorg-server. What it is complaining about is > x11-servers/xorg-server-snap being marked as to be ignored, which it > should be now as it is a out of date snap shot of xorg-server from > some time back. Should that be "x11-servers/xorg-server", instead of "xorg-server/xorg-server"? =2E . . or are you referring to something else? --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] McCloctnick the Lucid: "The first rule of magic is simple. Don't waste your time waving your hands and hopping when a rock or a club will do." --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhUQWEACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXr7ACgi4YEHoNbEszxZsUAaSYpqwWn HPQAn1+4P08P/6ngAL5OX0DPxpeRIlVt =8wyl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 22:17:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADD2106566C for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:17:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCA78FC1B for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03622FD05E for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:17:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42B7FD05C for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:17:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48544361.2040603@webrz.net> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:17:05 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Subject: PORTS - no longer updated X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:17:06 -0000 I use a port that no longer is supported thru the regular ports. p5-Text-ParseWords-3.1 Parse text into an array of tokens or array of arrays ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) - textproc/p5-Text-ParseWords (port directory error) Have tried to remove it, but then I get the message that there are still other installed programs are using it. Would the only possibility be that I excluded it from being update by adding it to pkgtools.conf or is there another way to correct this? -- Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 22:39:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854921065673 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vulpes.vvelox.net (vulpes.vvelox.NET [74.200.198.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659548FC29 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42 (c-68-51-74-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net [68.51.74.1]) (Authenticated sender: v.velox) by vulpes.vvelox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3274B836; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:41:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:40:39 -0500 From: "Zane C.B." To: David Naylor Message-ID: <20080614174039.4c7fff96@vixen42> In-Reply-To: <200806112225.36221.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> References: <200806112225.36221.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and User Security X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:39:21 -0000 On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:25:32 +0200 David Naylor wrote: > Hi All, > > Today I read an article describing how my government had lost > ZAR200 000 000 from fraud. This is just under $25 000 000. The > article credited this loss largely due to the use of spyware. > > My question is how secure is FreeBSD (including KDE, GNOME and > XFCE) to attacks, including cracking and spyware. In addition, is > there anyway to prevent a user from executing a program that is not > owned by root (i.e. any program installed by the user), this would > prevent spyware being installed (assuming root has been properly > locked down) and subsequently run. Ugidfw(8) can be used to help with the executable stuff. The same is true for using a restricted shell. The important thing is making sure to make sure the user can't execute any thing other than the few commands they are suppose to. If allowed access to execute any thing in a system bin/sbin path, you begin to run into issues with interpreters, which are as good as being able to execute something owned by them. You can remove permissions to access them, but that strikes me as beginning to get a bit hairy in the long run. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 22:40:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E6B106568E for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:40:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E088FC29 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K7ePi-0000qD-Od for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:40:03 +0000 Received: from RSX4.physics.uiuc.edu ([130.126.15.196]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:40:02 +0000 Received: from novembre by RSX4.physics.uiuc.edu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:40:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Novembre Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <4AF0C677-6628-49A6-BDD8-F5620CBF05F1@sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 130.126.15.196 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080323 Firefox/2.0.0.12) Sender: news Subject: Re: Openvpn on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:40:08 -0000 Andrew Berry sentex.net> writes: > > Hi, > > I recently upgraded a machine from FreeBSD 6.3 to 7.0. Everything is > working fine except for the OpenVPN server. I had it set up with a > bridge configuration, but now even with a basic tunnel I can't get > successful ping across the VPN. I can make a connection from both > Linux and OS X but neither can actually use the tunnel. Are there any > changes in 7 which might affect this? Anyone else using OpenVPN on 7.0? > > Thanks, > --Andrew I have the same exact problem. I upgraded from 6.2-RELEASE to 7.0-RELEASE a while back, recompiled my installed ports, and since then I have problems with OpenVPN. I have a laptop (Windows XP SP2) at home and a desktop (FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE) at my office in the university. I have installed Samba 3.0.28,1 on my desktop and created a share. I can access the share from anywhere within the university network. But our university network is behind a firewall which blocks all incoming connections except SSH, so I cannot access my Samba share from home. What I did was to use Putty to SSH to my desktop at office, setup and OpenVPN client/server on my laptop/desktop computers, and forward all OpenVPN connections to my desktop through the SSH connection using Putty. Then I could connect to my Samba server. It used to work before upgrading to 7.0-RELEASE, but after that I can't access my shares from home. I have confirmed that my Samba share is working fine by accessing it from another computer in the university network, so the only culprit is OpenVPN. It connects, but apparently something is wrong and I can't access my data... Any ideas? Thanks... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 22:40:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A856106566B for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:40:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vulpes.vvelox.net (vulpes.vvelox.NET [74.200.198.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8038FC41 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:40:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42 (c-68-51-74-1.hsd1.il.comcast.net [68.51.74.1]) (Authenticated sender: v.velox) by vulpes.vvelox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826DBB839; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:42:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:42:17 -0500 From: "Zane C.B." To: Ryan Coleman Message-ID: <20080614174217.40173e4d@vixen42> In-Reply-To: <48544214.4070409@cwis.biz> References: <4853D980.9030304@cwis.biz> <20080614165408.55e74f8d@vixen42> <48544214.4070409@cwis.biz> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Testing RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:40:59 -0000 On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:11:32 -0500 Ryan Coleman wrote: > Zane C.B. wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:45:20 -0500 > > Ryan Coleman wrote: > > > > > >> How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing? I was figuring > >> I'd drop from 4GB to 1GB and just push the board with the same cp > >> -rvn commands I've been running in an attempt to populate my 7TB > >> RAID5. > >> > >> Also, am I using the wrong FS for the RAID? I partitioned it with > >> gpt (1 large slice) and formatted it with newfs but is there > >> another way? A better way? I read about ZFS recently but I am > >> sure the speed of reading from a RAID5 is lost with it's > >> redundancies. > > > > For something that large, ZFS would be my choice > I take it that's not something I can do after the fact, right? I am > not looking forward to redoing 1.6TB in file copying a second time Not that I am aware of. My big reason I would go with ZFS is it would make future updates easier as you can do it on the fly if the disks are just being added to a system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 22:46:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4AD1065674 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F1F8FC18 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id 1011416B56E; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:46:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.73]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DFF5516B4D8; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:46:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:42:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:42:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: Jos Chrispijn In-Reply-To: <48544361.2040603@webrz.net> Message-ID: <20080614174212.L8806@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <48544361.2040603@webrz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.4 required=10.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,OACYS_SINGLE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02 version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PORTS - no longer updated X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:46:13 -0000 On Sun, 15 Jun 2008, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > I use a port that no longer is supported thru the regular ports. > > p5-Text-ParseWords-3.1 Parse text into an array of tokens or array of arrays > > ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) > - textproc/p5-Text-ParseWords (port directory error) > > Have tried to remove it, but then I get the message that there are still > other installed programs are using it. > > Would the only possibility be that I excluded it from being update by adding > it to pkgtools.conf or is there another way to correct this? The first step is find out what happened to it. In this case MOVED tells us this module has moved to core perl. I believe upgrading perl and forcing package delete will do it. You may have to run pkgdb -F to delete the dependencies. You may want to make a note of the packages that depended on it. I believe they will still work after you upgrade perl, but you can rebuild them after perl is upgraded if necessary. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 23:19:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C3C1065676 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:19:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47648FC13; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <48545212.4040006@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:19:46 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <20080614224742.17316919@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20080614224742.17316919@gumby.homeunix.com.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: md devices mounted with async X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:19:48 -0000 RW wrote: > mdmfs(8) has an example of a malloc-backed md device mounted with the > async option. Is there any point in doing this with malloc and vnode > devices? In neither case does a write to the file-system require a write > to a physical disk. Well, for vnode devices it does write to the disk, but that isn't the point; in both cases you are writing to the filesystem that is mounted on top of the md, so that will be faster if it is mounted async. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 23:22:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61111065672 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from mail.skiltech.com (bunning.skiltech.com [65.36.251.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A398FC13 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FF025C05B for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:22:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at skiltech.com Received: from mail.skiltech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bunning.skiltech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xaJKduQlf5Id for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:22:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-75-73-67-167.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [75.73.67.167]) by mail.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 5E19E25BEF3 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <485452C6.7000802@cwis.biz> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:22:46 -0500 From: Ryan Coleman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4853D980.9030304@cwis.biz> <20080614165408.55e74f8d@vixen42> <48544214.4070409@cwis.biz> <20080614174217.40173e4d@vixen42> In-Reply-To: <20080614174217.40173e4d@vixen42> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Testing RAM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:22:58 -0000 Zane C.B. wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:11:32 -0500 > Ryan Coleman wrote: > > >> Zane C.B. wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:45:20 -0500 >>> Ryan Coleman wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing? I was figuring >>>> I'd drop from 4GB to 1GB and just push the board with the same cp >>>> -rvn commands I've been running in an attempt to populate my 7TB >>>> RAID5. >>>> >>>> Also, am I using the wrong FS for the RAID? I partitioned it with >>>> gpt (1 large slice) and formatted it with newfs but is there >>>> another way? A better way? I read about ZFS recently but I am >>>> sure the speed of reading from a RAID5 is lost with it's >>>> redundancies. >>>> >>> For something that large, ZFS would be my choice >>> >> I take it that's not something I can do after the fact, right? I am >> not looking forward to redoing 1.6TB in file copying a second time >> > > Not that I am aware of. > > My big reason I would go with ZFS is it would make future updates > easier as you can do it on the fly if the disks are just being added > to a system. > Ok, and since I have all 8 ports used on this SATA RAID controller I won't worry about it. I reinstalled 6.3-RELEASE for amd64 and I cannot get the DNS client to work... I can do one lookup and then it stops working. I am sooooo frustrated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 23:26:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2391065677 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailhub.rulez.sk (mailhub.rulez.sk [IPv6:2001:15c0:6672::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC2F8FC13 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6815C04C; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:26:51 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rulez.sk Received: from mailhub.rulez.sk ([78.47.53.106]) by localhost (genesis.rulez.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YOYEmZyCWW+E; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:26:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from danger-pc (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: danger@rulez.sk) by mailhub.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 19EBC5C020; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:26:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:26:14 +0200 From: Daniel Gerzo X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.99.3) Professional Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1742766000.20080615012614@rulez.sk> To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <319048390806140738g4afbf3ceneb2e436b887f5e88@mail.gmail.com> References: <319048390806120643n2033cfd1m795eaaf414c9f15c@mail.gmail.com> <319048390806120645p6dd2e2e3n983c13b793ccdf6b@mail.gmail.com> <1288741611.20080614131358@rulez.sk> <319048390806140615u7ba5845am776cc88fadc6dd84@mail.gmail.com> <319048390806140738g4afbf3ceneb2e436b887f5e88@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Fwd: twe0 interrupt storm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Gerzo List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:26:53 -0000 Hello FreeBSD, Saturday, June 14, 2008, 4:38:10 PM, you wrote: > Be careful with hetzner.de hosting, here is their answer: > The controller is compatible with the mainboard. With linux there are no > problems. FreeBSD is also not officially supported by us (only > Debian/Ubuntu/Suse). Yea, I know they do not officialy support FreeBSD, unluckily :-( These interrupt storms are the only problem I have with hetzner.de... -- Best regards, Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 23:27:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2CEB106564A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:27:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from raq3.nitrex.net (raq3.nitrex.net [213.165.226.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E2D8FC26 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:27:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.10.144] (gate.zenatode.org.uk [213.165.225.167]) by raq3.nitrex.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5ENRA05004604 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:27:15 +0100 Message-ID: <485453CE.3040908@onetel.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:27:10 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080611) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: how to view environment variables X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:27:17 -0000 Hello, sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/files/README.FreeBSD refers to various environment variables, eg UBLIO_BLOCKSIZE and others. How do I find out what they are set to? set and printenv don't find them. I'm using standard csh and FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE, fuse.ko is loaded and ntfs-3g works except it seems very slow. thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 23:29:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D5D1065678 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF1B8FC1D for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K7fB3-0002SC-Qf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:28:57 +0000 Received: from RSX4.physics.uiuc.edu ([130.126.15.196]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:28:57 +0000 Received: from novembre by RSX4.physics.uiuc.edu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:28:57 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Novembre Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:28:46 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <3b47caa90806082022g65e88d97q3fa3d99d3b790ddc@mail.gmail.com> <484D1B1C.9020909@next.online.no> <3b47caa90806121138ncc284edj94af1a58059304f4@mail.gmail.com> <4851751E.9020900@next.online.no> <27580.0676820383$1213414497@news.gmane.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 130.126.15.196 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080323 Firefox/2.0.0.12) Sender: news Subject: Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:29:02 -0000 RW mlists.homeunix.com> writes: > > gmane.org offers many mailing lists via its news.gmane.org server and > most of the lists will allow posting. You need a real email address to > post, because the first one has to verified. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe freebsd.org" > Great...this is exactly what I needed. Thanks so much :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 23:33:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E981065689 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:33:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30298FC1B for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:33:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 14 Jun 2008 19:33:54 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id KAG43411; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:33:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 14 Jun 2008 19:33:54 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18516.21857.329326.484607@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:33:53 -0400 To: Chris Whitehouse In-Reply-To: <485453CE.3040908@onetel.com> References: <485453CE.3040908@onetel.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: User Questions Subject: how to view environment variables X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:33:55 -0000 Chris Whitehouse writes: > sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/files/README.FreeBSD refers to various > environment variables, eg UBLIO_BLOCKSIZE and others. How do I > find out what they are set to? set and printenv don't find > them. I'm using standard csh In that case, try "setenv" with no arguements. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 14 23:50:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145851065671 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:50:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D358FC0A for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:50:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost.webrz.net [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFCDFD05E; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:50:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (atlantis.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD7FFD05C; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:50:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48545934.7030500@webrz.net> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:50:12 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eighner References: <48544361.2040603@webrz.net> <20080614174212.L8806@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> In-Reply-To: <20080614174212.L8806@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @ prometheus.webrz.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PORTS - no longer updated X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:50:17 -0000 Lars Eighner wrote: > The first step is find out what happened to it. In this case MOVED > tells us > this module has moved to core perl. I believe upgrading perl and forcing [-] Lars, thanks for sharing; I will follow your suggestion. Didn't know this MOVED thing... -- Jos