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References 1. 3D"http://www=/ 2. 3D"https://wumt.westernuni=/ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 05:38:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666CB106564A; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 05:38:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chinsan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7698FC13; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 05:38:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chinsan@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (chinsan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n045ciRJ000447; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 05:38:44 GMT (envelope-from chinsan@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from chinsan@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n045cimr000443; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 05:38:44 GMT (envelope-from chinsan) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 05:38:44 GMT Message-Id: <200901040538.n045cimr000443@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chinsan@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, chinsan@FreeBSD.org From: chinsan@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/127732: pkg_add(1) manual documents --no-scripts, but source uses --no-script X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 05:38:44 -0000 Synopsis: pkg_add(1) manual documents --no-scripts, but source uses --no-script Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->chinsan Responsible-Changed-By: chinsan Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Jan 4 05:38:32 UTC 2009 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=127732 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 09:20:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1BB1065670 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:20:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC778FC1C for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:20:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n049K1Sv097592 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:20:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n049K1jD097591; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:20:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:20:01 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200901040920.n049K1jD097591@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Marian Cerny Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1333106564A for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FB38FC08 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n049GAQk081534 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:16:10 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n049GA33081533; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:16:10 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200901040916.n049GA33081533@www.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:16:10 GMT From: Marian Cerny To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Cc: Subject: docs/130151: The adding_user(8) man page should be moved to section 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 09:20:02 -0000 >Number: 130151 >Category: docs >Synopsis: The adding_user(8) man page should be moved to section 7 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Jan 04 09:20:01 UTC 2009 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Marian Cerny >Release: 6.3-RELEASE-p2 >Organization: >Environment: 6.3-RELEASE-p2 >Description: The adding_user(8) man page describes the process of adding a new user, so it should be probably placed into the section 7 (miscellaneous information pages), because there is no *utility* adding_user. The HISTORY section of the adding_user(8) man page contains the following text: The adding_user utility appeared in 3.0BSD. However there is no adding_user *utility*, so a different wording should be used. Probably something like: The adding_user manual page first appeared in 3.0BSD. (Or without the word "first" if we don't know.) Also the BUGS section probably does not give any sense and should be removed. For example intro(*), security(7) or hier(7) do not have the BUGS section. >How-To-Repeat: check the adding_user(8) manual page >Fix: 1. move the man page to section 7 2. use different wording in HISTORY section 3. remove the BUGS section >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 16:48:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4127B1065674; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from services.rulez.sk (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7ABB8FC0C; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3007A13344B5; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:48:45 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rulez.sk Received: from services.rulez.sk ([92.240.234.125]) by localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zlSKgBKvB48Y; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:48:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from DANGER-PC (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) (Authenticated sender: danger@rulez.sk) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7BF6713344A4; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:48:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:48:42 +0100 From: Daniel Gerzo Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <287359450.20090104174842@rulez.sk> To: Christian Brueffer In-Reply-To: <20090104155832.GA1257@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE> References: <200901041541.n04Ff1Oh060753@svn.freebsd.org> <20090104155832.GA1257@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Daniel Gerzo , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: svn commit: r186737 - head/sbin/geom/class/virstor X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:48:46 -0000 Hello Christian, Sunday, January 4, 2009, 4:58:32 PM, you wrote: > While using .Ex is good, collapsing EXIT STATUS into DIAGNOSTICS is not. > EXIT STATUS is a standard section in our manpages and it's orthogonal to > DIAGNOSTICS. I am fine to revert this part, however I have trimmed this section just because I didn't see it listed in the PAGE STRUCTURE DOMAIN section of the mdoc(7) manual page. Interestingly, it lists the DIAGNOSTICS section and explicitly says that .Ex macro should be used there. If is it still preferred to revert this change, I would like to see this section added to the mdoc(7). Thoughts? --=20 Best regards, Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 17:14:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810561065672; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:14:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@nitro.dk) Received: from mx.nitro.dk (zarniwoop.nitro.dk [83.92.207.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC978FC08; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:14:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@nitro.dk) Received: from arthur.nitro.dk (arthur.bofh [192.168.2.3]) by mx.nitro.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B741E8C1D; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:14:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by arthur.nitro.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2D2CF5C86; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:14:56 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:14:56 +0100 From: "Simon L. Nielsen" To: Daniel Gerzo Message-ID: <20090104171455.GC1208@arthur.nitro.dk> References: <200901041541.n04Ff1Oh060753@svn.freebsd.org> <20090104155832.GA1257@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE> <287359450.20090104174842@rulez.sk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <287359450.20090104174842@rulez.sk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: doc@freebsd.org, Christian Brueffer Subject: Re: svn commit: r186737 - head/sbin/geom/class/virstor X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:14:58 -0000 On 2009.01.04 17:48:42 +0100, Daniel Gerzo wrote: > Hello Christian, > > Sunday, January 4, 2009, 4:58:32 PM, you wrote: > > > While using .Ex is good, collapsing EXIT STATUS into DIAGNOSTICS is not. > > EXIT STATUS is a standard section in our manpages and it's orthogonal to > > DIAGNOSTICS. > > I am fine to revert this part, however I have trimmed this section > just because I didn't see it listed in the PAGE STRUCTURE DOMAIN > section of the mdoc(7) manual page. > > Interestingly, it lists the DIAGNOSTICS section and explicitly > says that .Ex macro should be used there. > > If is it still preferred to revert this change, I would like to see > this section added to the mdoc(7). Thoughts? I really like having EXIT STATUS as a seperate section so I can quickly find out what a program can return with. The example(1) (/usr/share/examples/mdoc/example.1) does have EXIT STATUS. I think mentioning it in mdoc(7) seems like a good idea, but you should probably get ru@'s input on that. PS. ping(1) uses RETURN VALUES section instead which should probably be changed. -- Simon L. Nielsen From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 17:52:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411A410656C4; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:2f0:104:e001::32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2418FC14; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:52:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p2191-ipbf1403funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [118.7.161.191]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n04HprVD056662; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 02:52:04 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by delta.allbsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n04Hpoi0063280; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 02:51:52 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:50:58 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20090105.025058.119952164.hrs@allbsd.org> To: danger@FreeBSD.org From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <287359450.20090104174842@rulez.sk> References: <200901041541.n04Ff1Oh060753@svn.freebsd.org> <20090104155832.GA1257@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE> <287359450.20090104174842@rulez.sk> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan__5_02_50_58_2009_272)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (mail.allbsd.org [133.31.130.32]); Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:52:04 +0900 (JST) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, brueffer@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r186737 - head/sbin/geom/class/virstor X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:52:07 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan__5_02_50_58_2009_272)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Gerzo wrote in <287359450.20090104174842@rulez.sk>: da> Hello Christian, da> da> Sunday, January 4, 2009, 4:58:32 PM, you wrote: da> da> > While using .Ex is good, collapsing EXIT STATUS into DIAGNOSTICS is not. da> > EXIT STATUS is a standard section in our manpages and it's orthogonal to da> > DIAGNOSTICS. da> da> I am fine to revert this part, however I have trimmed this section da> just because I didn't see it listed in the PAGE STRUCTURE DOMAIN da> section of the mdoc(7) manual page. da> da> Interestingly, it lists the DIAGNOSTICS section and explicitly da> says that .Ex macro should be used there. Is using .Ex macro really correct?. When geom(1) fails the exit status will be 1, not >0. While many commands whose manual page says so return 1 on an error actually (especially when it is in POSIX), the two are not the same at least. -- | Hiroki SATO ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan__5_02_50_58_2009_272)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAklg9wIACgkQTyzT2CeTzy1sHgCfd9qgbE4SwupjlseZtqv/+VOf Ko4An3sUaF9untAygCpryRhsAdPq89v4 =8V/4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan__5_02_50_58_2009_272)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 17:52:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5409B106571D; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:52:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from mx-out.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B375F8FC22; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:52:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-03.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n04HWxb9004981; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:32:59 +0200 Received: from MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr (mx-in-05.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.30]) by mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n04HW0UZ001296; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:32:00 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp160-148.adsl.forthnet.gr [194.219.40.148]) by MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n04HVvU3016612; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:31:58 +0200 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=keramida@freebsd.org; spf=permerror Authentication-Results: MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr header.from=keramida@freebsd.org; sender-id=permerror Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n04HVuEq014685; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:31:56 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n04HVufq014684; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:31:56 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gabor PALI References: <4956903C.5060405@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:31:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4956903C.5060405@FreeBSD.org> (Gabor PALI's message of "Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:29:48 +0100") Message-ID: <874p0f9dv7.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] A Handbook Section on Updating the Documentation Set X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:52:52 -0000 On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:29:48 +0100, Gabor PALI wrote: > http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/27/updating-upgrading-documentation.patch.diff Ping... Any news about this patch? If there are no objections since Dec 27, it would be nice if we committed it to CVS. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 17:57:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5A3106564A; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:57:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from services.rulez.sk (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D179B8FC08; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:57:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1800E13344B5; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:57:24 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rulez.sk Received: from services.rulez.sk ([92.240.234.125]) by localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iFmKdtc4Jfhf; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:57:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from DANGER-PC (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) (Authenticated sender: danger@rulez.sk) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 50809133445A; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:57:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:57:21 +0100 From: Daniel Gerzo Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1289663263.20090104185721@rulez.sk> To: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20090105.025058.119952164.hrs@allbsd.org> References: <200901041541.n04Ff1Oh060753@svn.freebsd.org> <20090104155832.GA1257@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE> <287359450.20090104174842@rulez.sk> <20090105.025058.119952164.hrs@allbsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: danger@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, brueffer@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re[2]: svn commit: r186737 - head/sbin/geom/class/virstor X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:57:25 -0000 Hello Hiroki, Sunday, January 4, 2009, 6:50:58 PM, you wrote: > Daniel Gerzo wrote > in <287359450.20090104174842@rulez.sk>: da>> Hello Christian, da>> da>> Sunday, January 4, 2009, 4:58:32 PM, you wrote: da>> da>> > While using .Ex is good, collapsing EXIT STATUS into DIAGNOSTICS is = not. da>> > EXIT STATUS is a standard section in our manpages and it's orthogona= l to da>> > DIAGNOSTICS. da>> da>> I am fine to revert this part, however I have trimmed this section da>> just because I didn't see it listed in the PAGE STRUCTURE DOMAIN da>> section of the mdoc(7) manual page. da>> da>> Interestingly, it lists the DIAGNOSTICS section and explicitly da>> says that .Ex macro should be used there. > Is using .Ex macro really correct?. When geom(1) fails the exit > status will be 1, not >0. While many commands whose manual page says > so return 1 on an error actually (especially when it is in POSIX), > the two are not the same at least. I thought that 1 > 0 ... (?) --=20 Best regards, Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 18:13:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696B7106566B; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:13:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from services.rulez.sk (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FDE8FC0C; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:13:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E265013344A4; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:56:06 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rulez.sk Received: from services.rulez.sk ([92.240.234.125]) by localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ISWTtlIsttqx; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:56:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from DANGER-PC (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) (Authenticated sender: danger@rulez.sk) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2F80F133445A; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:56:06 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:56:03 +0100 From: Daniel Gerzo Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1054974008.20090104185603@rulez.sk> To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <874p0f9dv7.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <4956903C.5060405@FreeBSD.org> <874p0f9dv7.fsf@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Gabor PALI , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: [RFC] A Handbook Section on Updating the Documentation Set X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:13:23 -0000 Hello Giorgos, Sunday, January 4, 2009, 6:31:56 PM, you wrote: > On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:29:48 +0100, Gabor PALI wrote: >> http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/27/updating-upgrading-doc= umentation.patch.diff > Ping... Any news about this patch? > If there are no objections since Dec 27, it would be nice if we > committed it to CVS. I think we are now waiting untill docsnap.sk.freebsd.org will be online again after its failure due to its update (should hopefully happen tommorrow). --=20 Best regards, Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 18:23:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4764106564A; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:23:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:2f0:104:e001::32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFC78FC0C; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:23:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p2191-ipbf1403funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [118.7.161.191]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n04INK1F057951; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 03:23:31 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by delta.allbsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n04IN8LJ063610; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 03:23:10 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:22:11 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20090105.032211.33865530.hrs@allbsd.org> To: danger@FreeBSD.org From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <1289663263.20090104185721@rulez.sk> References: <287359450.20090104174842@rulez.sk> <20090105.025058.119952164.hrs@allbsd.org> <1289663263.20090104185721@rulez.sk> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan__5_03_22_11_2009_552)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (mail.allbsd.org [133.31.130.32]); Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:23:31 +0900 (JST) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, brueffer@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r186737 - head/sbin/geom/class/virstor X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:23:33 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan__5_03_22_11_2009_552)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Gerzo wrote in <1289663263.20090104185721@rulez.sk>: da> Hello Hiroki, da> da> Sunday, January 4, 2009, 6:50:58 PM, you wrote: da> da> > Daniel Gerzo wrote da> > in <287359450.20090104174842@rulez.sk>: da> da> da>> Hello Christian, da> da>> da> da>> Sunday, January 4, 2009, 4:58:32 PM, you wrote: da> da>> da> da>> > While using .Ex is good, collapsing EXIT STATUS into DIAGNOSTICS is not. da> da>> > EXIT STATUS is a standard section in our manpages and it's orthogonal to da> da>> > DIAGNOSTICS. da> da>> da> da>> I am fine to revert this part, however I have trimmed this section da> da>> just because I didn't see it listed in the PAGE STRUCTURE DOMAIN da> da>> section of the mdoc(7) manual page. da> da>> da> da>> Interestingly, it lists the DIAGNOSTICS section and explicitly da> da>> says that .Ex macro should be used there. da> da> > Is using .Ex macro really correct?. When geom(1) fails the exit da> > status will be 1, not >0. While many commands whose manual page says da> > so return 1 on an error actually (especially when it is in POSIX), da> > the two are not the same at least. da> da> I thought that 1 > 0 ... (?) I mean I am wondering if rewriting "1" with ">0" is reasonable or not. "1>0" is always true, but "1" is not equal to ">0". Some other manual pages have the description "1 on error.". If we have a consensus on that this rewriting is reasonable, we should also rewrite them in consistency. -- | Hiroki SATO ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan__5_03_22_11_2009_552)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAklg/lQACgkQTyzT2CeTzy1kqQCZAZTyiCRUjtxLKYQomHxHMfPI 5A4An3tcnp9SFvvt6X67rMjqW22DjB4P =JxDs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan__5_03_22_11_2009_552)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 19:11:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0B4106564A; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:11:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99F58FC08; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so8484721ewy.19 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 11:11:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ha8gj6Hlhb7CXM3UWHyAuC4qoAxZ8wz32POPb8AG6Z4=; b=i7E9qs0HDEuizc8/PqIniKZKYV/QlDxxLyumyrjV9oGKCDjFoPRkUQ+N1ofVJsgIfJ BKlhUpgmtRRigcuqMVGMdDQcNp9h6KQR4krucKPqQPQBTsstIo9lQDy3/Fy7ggfGfRLo /jYtoAVN2xS+bi/SrDcfIIXcIWqPff7yMgLAs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Y12Yepr3PmwHtmR1Of92gsAtR4+NNKIMb+36HqOof/0uB9lUkiWE7sKAKShGxT2p23 hTuS4RRefTSCgxc7+2IvVaQ9Boa15FzL2ECRi2iWeNASGYLvOuk0vCv83CdNH7QbczbG J7Z5nQ1oAp1Y8IXh0z8FhOJGrkOEXA+T5sfPU= Received: by 10.210.13.16 with SMTP id 16mr12700460ebm.180.1231096272585; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 11:11:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.110? (catv-89-132-186-236.catv.broadband.hu [89.132.186.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm49613001nfv.58.2009.01.04.11.11.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 04 Jan 2009 11:11:11 -0800 (PST) Sender: =?UTF-8?B?UMOBTEkgR8OhYm9yIErDoW5vcw==?= Message-ID: <496109B1.6060501@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:10:41 +0100 From: Gabor PALI Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Gerzo References: <4956903C.5060405@FreeBSD.org> <874p0f9dv7.fsf@kobe.laptop> <1054974008.20090104185603@rulez.sk> In-Reply-To: <1054974008.20090104185603@rulez.sk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: [RFC] A Handbook Section on Updating the Documentation Set X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:11:15 -0000 Daniel Gerzo wrote: > Hello Giorgos, > > Sunday, January 4, 2009, 6:31:56 PM, you wrote: > >> On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:29:48 +0100, Gabor PALI wrote: >>> http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/27/updating-upgrading-documentation.patch.diff > >> Ping... Any news about this patch? Pong! > >> If there are no objections since Dec 27, it would be nice if we >> committed it to CVS. > > I think we are now waiting untill docsnap.sk.freebsd.org will be > online again after its failure due to its update (should hopefully > happen tommorrow). > Yes. However, I could commit this patch to encourage docsnap.sk.freebsd.org to be online when the patch goes HTML :) Well, I had an interesting comment on this from Colin Percival. He said that calling this technique "docsnap" might confuse people, because he has a portsnap (and now a tarsnap) service, with very different implementation. He would prefer calling it "docsync" over "docsnap". Just for your information. Thank you for the ping, sorry for the delay. I was pretty busy with another BSD-related things these days. Cheers, :g From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 20:18:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C091065670; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE) Received: from mta-1.ms.rz.rwth-aachen.de (mta-1.ms.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.7.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C2B8FC14; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:18:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from ironport-out-1.rz.rwth-aachen.de ([134.130.5.40]) by mta-1.ms.rz.RWTH-Aachen.de (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008)) with ESMTP id <0KCY003H2PP9P7G0@mta-1.ms.rz.RWTH-Aachen.de>; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:48:45 +0100 (CET) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.36,328,1228086000"; d="scan'208";a="95385022" Received: from smarthost-2.ms.rz.rwth-aachen.de (HELO smarthost.rwth-aachen.de) ([134.130.7.90]) by ironport-in-1.rz.rwth-aachen.de with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:48:46 +0100 Received: from bigboss.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (bigspace.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.181.2]) by smarthost.rwth-aachen.de (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/1) with ESMTP id n04Jmjnt006526; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:48:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de ([137.226.181.92]) by bigboss.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LJYxp-0008AX-E1; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:48:45 +0100 Received: by haakonia.hitnet.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 219903F41B; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:48:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:48:44 +0100 From: Christian Brueffer To: Hiroki Sato Message-id: <20090104194844.GB1257@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE> References: <287359450.20090104174842@rulez.sk> <20090105.025058.119952164.hrs@allbsd.org> <1289663263.20090104185721@rulez.sk> <20090105.032211.33865530.hrs@allbsd.org> Content-type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary=Yylu36WmvOXNoKYn Content-disposition: inline In-reply-to: <20090105.032211.33865530.hrs@allbsd.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-STABLE X-PGP-Key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: danger@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r186737 - head/sbin/geom/class/virstor X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:18:48 -0000 --Yylu36WmvOXNoKYn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 03:22:11AM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: > Daniel Gerzo wrote > in <1289663263.20090104185721@rulez.sk>: >=20 > da> Hello Hiroki, > da> > da> Sunday, January 4, 2009, 6:50:58 PM, you wrote: > da> > da> > Daniel Gerzo wrote > da> > in <287359450.20090104174842@rulez.sk>: > da> > da> da>> Hello Christian, > da> da>> > da> da>> Sunday, January 4, 2009, 4:58:32 PM, you wrote: > da> da>> > da> da>> > While using .Ex is good, collapsing EXIT STATUS into DIAGNOSTI= CS is not. > da> da>> > EXIT STATUS is a standard section in our manpages and it's ort= hogonal to > da> da>> > DIAGNOSTICS. > da> da>> > da> da>> I am fine to revert this part, however I have trimmed this secti= on > da> da>> just because I didn't see it listed in the PAGE STRUCTURE DOMAIN > da> da>> section of the mdoc(7) manual page. > da> da>> > da> da>> Interestingly, it lists the DIAGNOSTICS section and explicitly > da> da>> says that .Ex macro should be used there. > da> > da> > Is using .Ex macro really correct?. When geom(1) fails the exit > da> > status will be 1, not >0. While many commands whose manual page s= ays > da> > so return 1 on an error actually (especially when it is in POSIX), > da> > the two are not the same at least. > da> > da> I thought that 1 > 0 ... (?) >=20 > I mean I am wondering if rewriting "1" with ">0" is reasonable or > not. "1>0" is always true, but "1" is not equal to ">0". >=20 > Some other manual pages have the description "1 on error.". If we > have a consensus on that this rewriting is reasonable, we should > also rewrite them in consistency. >=20 Interesting question, I have no strong opinion for either of the alternatives. I agree that we should standardize on one though. - Christian --=20 Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D --Yylu36WmvOXNoKYn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFJYRKcbHYXjKDtmC0RAmqNAJ0RenHGXhPGpcbB8C1Da1cDkIjhrgCdFSYw 8YxxDqXyGjPB2WMYYPZMKEw= =NtDq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Yylu36WmvOXNoKYn-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 20:46:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D2810656D9; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.allbsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:2f0:104:e001::32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BDDD8FC17; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:46:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from delta.allbsd.org (p2191-ipbf1403funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [118.7.161.191]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.allbsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n04KkML5059852; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 05:46:33 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (alph.allbsd.org [192.168.0.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by delta.allbsd.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n04KjuOP063800; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 05:45:59 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 05:44:35 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20090105.054435.125149473.hrs@allbsd.org> To: chris@unixpages.org From: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20090104194844.GB1257@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE> References: <1289663263.20090104185721@rulez.sk> <20090105.032211.33865530.hrs@allbsd.org> <20090104194844.GB1257@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE> X-PGPkey-fingerprint: BDB3 443F A5DD B3D0 A530 FFD7 4F2C D3D8 2793 CF2D X-Mailer: Mew version 6.2 on Emacs 22.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="--Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan__5_05_44_35_2009_132)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93.3, clamav-milter version 0.93.3 on gatekeeper.allbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (mail.allbsd.org [133.31.130.32]); Mon, 05 Jan 2009 05:46:33 +0900 (JST) Cc: danger@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r186737 - head/sbin/geom/class/virstor X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:46:36 -0000 ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan__5_05_44_35_2009_132)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Christian Brueffer wrote in <20090104194844.GB1257@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE>: ch> On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 03:22:11AM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: ch> > I mean I am wondering if rewriting "1" with ">0" is reasonable or ch> > not. "1>0" is always true, but "1" is not equal to ">0". ch> > ch> > Some other manual pages have the description "1 on error.". If we ch> > have a consensus on that this rewriting is reasonable, we should ch> > also rewrite them in consistency. ch> > ch> ch> Interesting question, I have no strong opinion for either of the ch> alternatives. I agree that we should standardize on one though. IMO, the following guidelines are reasonable: 1. If the command conforms a standard such as POSIX, the description in the manual page should match the standard. For example, ls(1) returns >0 on error, but what(1) returns 1 on error. 2. Otherwise, EXIT STATUS section should match the reality as possible. This means if a command returns 0 on success, 1 on error, and the other values are not returned, the description in the manual page should be "it exits 0 on success, and 1 if an error occurs". -- | Hiroki SATO ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan__5_05_44_35_2009_132)-- Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAklhH7MACgkQTyzT2CeTzy2jWwCghTO+YZnKp1SjtWcLHKraBZDM z5kAnjC8wwmIsfUEyk/xXbhlG8TUlWtT =p+/e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----Security_Multipart(Mon_Jan__5_05_44_35_2009_132)---- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 20:52:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709E4106568C; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:52:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35A88FC23; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LJZi9-0003QL-Nj; Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:36:37 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n04KaapE018585; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:36:37 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9DF8DFCB841; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:36:31 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:36:31 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20090104203631.GA24306@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Giorgos Keramidas , Gabor PALI , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <4956903C.5060405@FreeBSD.org> <874p0f9dv7.fsf@kobe.laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <874p0f9dv7.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:36:37 +0000 (GMT) Cc: Gabor PALI , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] A Handbook Section on Updating the Documentation Set X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:52:06 -0000 On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 07:31:56PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:29:48 +0100, Gabor PALI wrote: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/27/updating-upgrading-documentation.patch.diff > > Ping... Any news about this patch? > > If there are no objections since Dec 27, it would be nice if we > committed it to CVS. > Hi Giorgos, If you remember, you asked me if I could get the page I wrote about using csup to update the docs: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/freebsd_uptodate.html into some sort of state to be incorporated into the updating section of the handbook. I've built the docs with Gabor's above patch applied & have started work on rejigging that section. You can see how far I've got. I've only done one page (which is bound to change) & largely worked on the css, so it's easier to mark-up into sgml: http://www.shute.org.uk/freebsd/synopsis.html I've made an executive decision to change mentions of cvsup to csup where appropriate since it's in base. I'm afraid I haven't got much to show ATM but keep your eyes peeled & I'll post regular updates here. I'll also likely be asking some questions! I guess it will probably take me a few weeks of work to get it into a state with which I'm happy but I'm not working ATM which allows me to devote plenty of time to it. Any suggestions gratefully received. :) Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 11:06:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C240E1065672 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:06:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9588FC17 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:06:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n05B65xh001825 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:06:05 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n05B65I2001821 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:06:05 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:06:05 GMT Message-Id: <200901051106.n05B65I2001821@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Cc: Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 11:06:06 -0000 (Note: an HTML version of this report is available at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?category=doc .) The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o docs/130151 doc The adding_user(8) man page should be moved to section p docs/129853 doc mistype in manual page nscd.conf(5) o docs/129671 doc New TCP chapter for Developer's Handbook (from rwatson o docs/129464 doc using packages system o docs/129428 doc ntp.conf(5) is incorrect - you can only use IP address o docs/129400 doc [patch] Remove comments that have snook into three man o docs/129196 doc Inconsistent errno in strtol() o docs/129095 doc ipfw(8): Can not check that packet originating/destine o docs/129024 doc [patch] ipfw(8) improvements p docs/128968 doc [patch] rwlock(9) man page typo o docs/128356 doc [request] add Firefox plugin for FreeBSD manual pages o docs/128222 doc [patch] man page truss(1) claims that init(8) can be t o docs/127908 doc [patch] readdir(3) error documentation o docs/127890 doc socket(2) man page should explain that protocol can be p docs/127866 doc Typos found in ifconfig(8) man page s docs/127844 doc Example code skeleton_capture_n.c in meteor(4) manpage o docs/127575 doc [patch] Update to ports (7) as it is missing a few mak o docs/126590 doc [patch] Write routine called forever in Sample Echo Ps o docs/126487 doc fix language on atol(3) manpage o docs/126484 doc libc function res-zonscut2 is not documented o docs/126445 doc discussion on WEP settings in wpa_supplicant.conf(5) m o docs/126227 doc [patch] kthread(9) refers to non-existent manpage, des o docs/125921 doc lpd(8) talks about blocks in minfree while it is KB in o docs/125751 doc man 3 pthread_getschedparam section ERRORS incomplete p docs/124166 doc fortune: instant-workstation tip should go o docs/123035 doc [patch] bugs in refuse.README o docs/122053 doc [patch] update on vinum(4) reference to newfs(8) f docs/122052 doc minor update on handbook section 20.7.1 o docs/121952 doc Handbook chapter on Network Address Translation wrong o docs/121871 doc ftpd does not interpret configuration files as documen o docs/121585 doc [handbook] Wrong multicast specification o docs/121565 doc dhcp-options(5) manpage incorrectly formatted omitting s docs/121541 doc [request] no man pages for wlan_scan_ap o docs/121312 doc RELNOTES_LANG breaks release if not en_US.ISO8859-1 o docs/121197 doc [patch] edits to books/porters-handbook o docs/121173 doc [patch] mq_getattr(2): mq_flags mistakenly described a s docs/120917 doc [request]: Man pages mising for thr_xxx syscalls o docs/120539 doc Inconsistent ipfw's man page o docs/120456 doc ath(4) needs to specify requirement on wlan_scan_sta o docs/120125 doc [patch] Installing FreeBSD 7.0 via serial console and o docs/120024 doc resolver(5) and hosts(5) need updated for IPv6 o docs/119907 doc Ports compatibility o docs/119746 doc l10n chapter of handbook (Russian Language) o docs/119545 doc books/arch-handbook/usb/chapter.sgml formatting a docs/119536 doc a few typos in French handbook (basics) o docs/119329 doc [patch] Fix misleading man 1 split o docs/118902 doc [patch] wrong signatures in d2i_RSAPublicKey man pages o docs/118545 doc loader tunables kern.dfldsiz and friends nearly undocu o docs/118332 doc man page for top does not describe STATE column wait e o docs/118214 doc close(2) error returns incomplete o docs/118020 doc ipfilter(4): man pages query for man 4 ipfilter return o docs/117798 doc formatting oddity in sysmouse(4) o docs/117747 doc 'break' system call needs a man page o docs/117013 doc mount_smbfs(8) doesn't document -U (username) argument o docs/116480 doc sysctl(3) description of kern.file no longer applies s o docs/116116 doc mktemp (3) re/move note o docs/116080 doc PREFIX is documented, but not the more important LOCAL o docs/115921 doc Booting from pst(4) is not supported o docs/115065 doc [patch] sync ps.1 with p_flag and keywords o docs/114371 doc [patch] [ip6] rtadvd.con(5) should show how to adverti o docs/114184 doc [patch] [ndis]: add info to man 4 ndis o docs/114139 doc mbuf(9) has misleading comments on M_DONTWAIT and M_TR o docs/113194 doc [patch] [request] crontab.5: handling of day-in-month o docs/112804 doc groff(1) command should be called to explicitly use "p o docs/112682 doc Handbook GEOM_GPT explanation does not provide accurat o docs/112481 doc bug in ppp.linkup example o docs/111425 doc Missing chunks of text in historical manpages o docs/111265 doc [request] Clarify how to set common shell variables o docs/111147 doc hostapd.conf is not documented o docs/110999 doc carp(4) should document unsupported interface types o docs/110692 doc wi(4) man page doesn't say WPA is not supported o docs/110376 doc [patch] add some more explanations for the iwi/ipw fir o docs/110253 doc [patch] rtprio(1): remove processing starvation commen o docs/110062 doc [patch] mount_nfs(8) fails to mention a failure condit o docs/110061 doc [patch] tuning(7) missing reference to vfs.read_max o docs/109983 doc No manual entry for protoize o docs/109981 doc No manual entry for post-grohtml o docs/109977 doc No manual entry for ksu o docs/109973 doc No manual entry for c++filt o docs/109972 doc No manual entry for zless/bzless f docs/109226 doc [request] No manual entry for sntp o docs/109201 doc [request]: manual for callbootd a docs/108980 doc list of missing man pages o docs/108101 doc /boot/default/loader.conf contains an incorrect commen o docs/106135 doc [request] articles/vinum needs to be updated o docs/105997 doc sys/kern/sys_pipe.c refer to tuning(7), but there is n o docs/105608 doc fdc(4) debugging description staled o docs/104879 doc Howto: Listen to IMA ADPCM .wav files on FreeBSD box o docs/104403 doc man security should mention that the usage of the X Wi o docs/102719 doc [patch] ng_bpf(4) example leads to unneeded promiscuos o docs/101464 doc sync ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/portbuild/article.html with o docs/100242 doc sysctl(3) description of KERN_PROC is not correct anym o docs/100196 doc man login.conf does explain not "unlimited" o docs/99506 doc FreeBSD Handbook addition: IPv6 Server Settings o docs/98974 doc Missing tunables in loader(8) manpage o docs/98759 doc [patch] sbp_targ(4) man page missing reference to devi o docs/98115 doc Missing parts after rendering handbook to RTF format o docs/96207 doc Comments of a sockaddr_un structure could confuse one o docs/94625 doc [patch] growfs man page -- document "panic: not enough o docs/92626 doc jail manpage should mention disabling some periodic sc o docs/91506 doc ndis(4) man page should be more specific about support o docs/91174 doc [REQUEST] Handbook: Addition of Oracle 9i installation o docs/91149 doc read(2) can return EINVAL for unaligned access to bloc o docs/88512 doc [patch] mount_ext2fs(8) man page has no details on lar o docs/87936 doc Handbook chapter on NIS/YP lacks good information on a o docs/87857 doc ifconfig(8) wireless options order matters o docs/86342 doc bikeshed entry of Handbook is wrong o docs/85187 doc [patch] find(1) manpage missing block info for -ls o docs/85128 doc [patch] loader.conf(5) autoboot_delay incompletly desc o docs/85118 doc [patch] opiekey(1) references non-existing opiegen(1) o docs/85100 doc NOTES: ICH audio device support statement is ambiguous o docs/84956 doc [patch] intro(5) manpage doesn't mention API coverage o docs/84932 doc new document: printing with an Epson ALC-3000N on Free o docs/84806 doc mdoc(7) manpage has section ordering problems o docs/84670 doc [patch] tput(1) manpage missing ENVIRONMENT section wi o docs/84538 doc [patch] sk(4) driver supports Marvell 88E800x chip too o docs/84317 doc fdp-primer doesn't show class=USERNAME distinctively o docs/84268 doc chmod(1) manpage's BUGS entry is either wrong or too c o docs/84265 doc [patch] chmod(1) manpage omits implication of setting f docs/82595 doc 25.5.3 Configuring a bridge section of the handbook ne o docs/78480 doc Networked printer setup unnecessarily complex in handb o docs/78138 doc [patch] Error in pre-installation section of installat o docs/76333 doc [patch] ferror(3): EOF indicator can be cleared by not o docs/70652 doc [patch] New man page: portindex(5) o docs/63570 doc [patch] Language cleanup for the Handbook's DNS sectio o docs/61605 doc [request] Improve documentation for i386 disk geometry o docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enable HomePNA fun o docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about accepted but mean o docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.freebsd.org/inf o docs/59044 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk does not properly handle a sour o docs/57388 doc [patch] INSTALL.TXT enhancement: mention ok prompt s docs/54752 doc bus_dma explained in ISA section in Handbook: should b o docs/53751 doc bus_dma(9) incorrectly documents BUS_DMA_ALLOCNOW o docs/53596 doc Updates to mt(1) manual page o docs/53271 doc bus_dma(9) fails to document alignment restrictions o docs/50211 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk: fix textfile creation o docs/48101 doc [patch] add documentation on the fixit disk to the FAQ o docs/47818 doc [patch] ln(1) manpage is confusing o docs/43823 doc [patch] update to environ(7) manpage o docs/41089 doc pax(1) -B option does not mention interaction with -z o docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to GETFKEY/SETF o docs/38982 doc [patch] developers-handbook/Jail fix o docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to existing examples o docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailing slash, etc. s docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for paths with sp s docs/33589 doc [patch] to doc.docbook.mk to post process .tex files. a docs/30008 doc [patch] French softupdates document should be translat o docs/27605 doc [patch] Cross-document references () o docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string warnings o docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) s docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags in the sourc 151 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 12:20:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4453A1065677; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 12:20:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196BA8FC0C; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 12:20:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n05CKW2f062366; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 12:20:32 GMT (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n05CKW1a062355; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 12:20:32 GMT (envelope-from trhodes) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 12:20:32 GMT Message-Id: <200901051220.n05CKW1a062355@freefall.freebsd.org> To: neldredge@math.ucsd.edu, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org From: trhodes@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/127890: socket(2) man page should explain that protocol can be 0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:20:34 -0000 Synopsis: socket(2) man page should explain that protocol can be 0 State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Mon Jan 5 12:19:41 UTC 2009 State-Changed-Why: Fix committed to CURRENT, thanks! 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13:46:22 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200901051346.n05DkMfq090285@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:46:23 -0000 /bin/rm -f pressreleases.sgml-tmp /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml pressreleases.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> ../zh_CN/platforms /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' alpha.sgml > alpha.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/zh_CN/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/zh_CN/platforms alpha.sgml-tmp > alpha.html || (/bin/rm -f alpha.sgml-tmp alpha.html && false) /bin/rm -f alpha.sgml-tmp /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml alpha.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' amd64.sgml > amd64.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/zh_CN/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/zh_CN/platforms amd64.sgml-tmp > amd64.html || (/bin/rm -f amd64.sgml-tmp amd64.html && false) /bin/rm -f amd64.sgml-tmp /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml amd64.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' arm.sgml > arm.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/zh_CN/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/zh_CN/platforms arm.sgml-tmp > arm.html || (/bin/rm -f arm.sgml-tmp arm.html && false) /bin/rm -f arm.sgml-tmp /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml arm.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' i386.sgml > i386.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/zh_CN/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/zh_CN/platforms i386.sgml-tmp > i386.html || (/bin/rm -f i386.sgml-tmp i386.html && false) /bin/rm -f i386.sgml-tmp /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml i386.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' index.sgml > index.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/zh_CN/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/zh_CN/platforms index.sgml-tmp > index.html || (/bin/rm -f index.sgml-tmp index.html && false) /bin/rm -f index.sgml-tmp /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml index.html ===> ../zh_CN/platforms/amd64 /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' motherboards.sgml > motherboards.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/zh_CN/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/zh_CN/platforms/amd64 motherboards.sgml-tmp > motherboards.html || (/bin/rm -f motherboards.sgml-tmp motherboards.html && false) /bin/rm -f motherboards.sgml-tmp /usr/local/bin/tidy -wrap 90 -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null -asxml motherboards.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) *** Error code 1 (ignored) ===> ../zh_CN/releases /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' index.sgml > index.sgml-tmp /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -ifreebsd.urls.absolute -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/zh_CN/share/sgml/catalog -c /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog -D /w/www/build/www/zh_CN/releases index.sgml-tmp > index.html || (/bin/rm -f index.sgml-tmp index.html && false) /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:index.sgml-tmp:26:26:E: general entity "u.rel.installation" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/zh_CN/releases. *** Error code 1 (ignored) *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/zh_CN. *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 1444.49 real 1148.70 user 142.71 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 19:46:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A361B106564A; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE) Received: 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Nielsen" Message-id: <20090105194612.GB1266@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE> References: <200901041541.n04Ff1Oh060753@svn.freebsd.org> <20090104155832.GA1257@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE> <287359450.20090104174842@rulez.sk> <20090104171455.GC1208@arthur.nitro.dk> Content-type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4bRzO86E/ozDv8r1" Content-disposition: inline In-reply-to: <20090104171455.GC1208@arthur.nitro.dk> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-STABLE X-PGP-Key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Daniel Gerzo , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r186737 - head/sbin/geom/class/virstor X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:46:15 -0000 --4bRzO86E/ozDv8r1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 06:14:56PM +0100, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: > On 2009.01.04 17:48:42 +0100, Daniel Gerzo wrote: > > Hello Christian, > >=20 > > Sunday, January 4, 2009, 4:58:32 PM, you wrote: > >=20 > > > While using .Ex is good, collapsing EXIT STATUS into DIAGNOSTICS is n= ot. > > > EXIT STATUS is a standard section in our manpages and it's orthogonal= to > > > DIAGNOSTICS. > >=20 > > I am fine to revert this part, however I have trimmed this section > > just because I didn't see it listed in the PAGE STRUCTURE DOMAIN > > section of the mdoc(7) manual page. > >=20 > > Interestingly, it lists the DIAGNOSTICS section and explicitly > > says that .Ex macro should be used there. > >=20 > > If is it still preferred to revert this change, I would like to see > > this section added to the mdoc(7). Thoughts? >=20 > I really like having EXIT STATUS as a seperate section so I can > quickly find out what a program can return with. >=20 > The example(1) (/usr/share/examples/mdoc/example.1) does have EXIT > STATUS. >=20 > I think mentioning it in mdoc(7) seems like a good idea, but you > should probably get ru@'s input on that. >=20 Right, I think ru simply forgot to document it or didn't document it because mdoc(7) is a vendor manpage and EXIT STATUS is a "non-standard mdoc" FreeBSD-specific section. > PS. ping(1) uses RETURN VALUES section instead which should probably > be changed. >=20 Yes, also a nice example of a utility that uses more than just 0 and 1 as exit status. - Christian --=20 Christian Brueffer chris@unixpages.org brueffer@FreeBSD.org GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D --4bRzO86E/ozDv8r1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFJYmOEbHYXjKDtmC0RApV0AJ9MAnTZijgiZLCOo0yo+GMNDSzIgQCg1W2x xly2EySLJmok0qv1+SFGI+g= =qNeT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4bRzO86E/ozDv8r1-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 14:01:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66841106566B for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:01:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris.tipper@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF208FC16 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:01:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris.tipper@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so9435320ewy.19 for ; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:01:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4qKk+04BaunX9PIn3joGcHQE2vyTiNbq6K7MTEsiM4U=; b=OAbSsKsjbW9c5EABFA02J4Vr4A+GSPLavZR8bAE2tyyJ/uYY1Jyty5q9oetbK+j72H hp0b0XHS030ZmlOEHOo4Y4puuQC4d0c2glPSghNXb4wMXoBv/oCVITX9hatz0+kYK/dM e5Y+mVoD0CdCcWxTsbxUtxY/NYTTBum7+mqhY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=g3Gv4PXJV4xw5/HkkLV8KN3YlVxQ6qSZttqg2vQ4wf6Hk7h8bgv0msYZHLkYjBQz6j +PPmeRtSmitFFxCa7nQDuYjHpmIb33eoR5tdghSBgOPUaTqDLULpFZ4JyYTPhvta/RY+ FYJROy7nap8RmuwidDqWWS7NymrudOgFlDnlU= Received: by 10.210.89.13 with SMTP id m13mr22725ebb.132.1231249171282; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:39:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.7? (user-5af0331c.wfd98.dsl.pol.co.uk [90.240.51.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm78604786nfv.14.2009.01.06.05.39.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:39:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49635F10.50905@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 13:39:28 +0000 From: Christopher G D Tipper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Handbook Partition size recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:01:07 -0000 Hi, http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html At the moment you are recommending a 512MB partition for root ('/'). I have found this to be inadequate and I don't know how to resize partitions. If you recompile the kernel, backup GENERIC etc. you will quickly run out of space I have found. I think the figure should be changed to 1GB. Also you have no recommendation on 'home'. This seems to be an oversight, as it makes the recommended size for root even more inadequate. This email is for information only. I will not be responding to any replies. Christopher -- --------------------------------o00o-------------------------------- "In the beginning there was nothing. God said, 'Let there be light!' And there was light. There was still nothing, but you could see it a whole lot better." -- Ellen DeGeneres From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 15:20:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960C11065670; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gavin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B538FC16; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gavin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gavin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06FKCeW009467; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:20:12 GMT (envelope-from gavin@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gavin@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n06FKCYw009447; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:20:12 GMT (envelope-from gavin) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:20:12 GMT Message-Id: <200901061520.n06FKCYw009447@freefall.freebsd.org> To: gkmohan@gmail.com, gavin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, gavin@FreeBSD.org From: gavin@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/126445: discussion on WEP settings in wpa_supplicant.conf(5) man page X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:20:12 -0000 Synopsis: discussion on WEP settings in wpa_supplicant.conf(5) man page State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: gavin State-Changed-When: Tue Jan 6 15:10:40 UTC 2009 State-Changed-Why: To submitter: I'm afraid I don't follow. There is a section in the wpa_supplicant.conf man page on how to configure using WEP keys, it is the last example in the EXAMPLES section of the man page: | Traditional WEP configuration with 104 bit key specified in hexadecimal. | Note the WEP key is not quoted. | | ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant | ctrl_interface_group=wheel | network={ | ssid="example" | scan_ssid=1 | key_mgmt=NONE | wep_tx_keyidx=0 | wep_key0=42FEEDDEAFBABEDEAFBEEFAA55 | } This was present in both FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE and 7.0-RELEASE, and has been there since. Perhaps you have somehow failed to update your system fully? Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->gavin Responsible-Changed-By: gavin Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Jan 6 15:10:40 UTC 2009 Responsible-Changed-Why: Track http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=126445 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 17:10:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0011065670 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9AF8FC17 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06HA14F090726 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:10:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n06HA1ZB090725; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:10:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:10:01 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200901061710.n06HA1ZB090725@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Vivek Khera Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4C5106567D for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:01:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from khera@kcilink.com) Received: from yertle.kcilink.com (thingy.kcilink.com [74.92.149.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099708FC22 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from khera@kcilink.com) Received: by yertle.kcilink.com (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 6D54E8A283; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:42:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20090106164202.6D54E8A283@yertle.kcilink.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:42:02 -0500 (EST) From: Vivek Khera To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Cc: Subject: docs/130238: nfs.lockd man page doesn't mention NFSLOCKD option or nfslockd module X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Vivek Khera List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:10:02 -0000 >Number: 130238 >Category: docs >Synopsis: nfs.lockd man page doesn't mention NFSLOCKD option or nfslockd module >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jan 06 17:10:01 UTC 2009 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Vivek Khera >Release: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p1 i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD vk-dev.int.kcilink.com 6.4-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p1 #2: Tue Jan 6 11:21:36 EST 2009 khera@mailerstats.int.kcilink.com:/amd/yertle/u/yertle1/sources/usr6/obj.i386/amd/yertle/u/yertle1/sources/usr6/src/sys/KCI32 i386 >Description: I upgraded a system (with a custom kernel) from 6.3-REL to 6.4-REL and on reboot the nfs.lockd program reported the following warning: Can't find or load kernel support for rpc.lockd - using non-kernel implementation The man page doesn't indicate how to correct this problem. This same issue seems to apply to 7.1-REL also. >How-To-Repeat: Build a custom kernel that doesn't build the nfslockd module nor enable the NFSLOCKD kernel option and run rpc.lockd. >Fix: Add a note to the rpc.lockd man page recommending to enable the NFSLOCKD kernel option, or build the nfslockd kernel module. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 17:20:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817E81065675 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3BB8FC12 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:20:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06HK36N098756 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:20:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n06HK3EX098755; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:20:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:20:03 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200901061720.n06HK3EX098755@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, "O. Hartmann" Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68D11065675 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:14:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AB88FC1B for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:14:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06HEN1F099624 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:14:23 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n06HENnP099623; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:14:23 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200901061714.n06HENnP099623@www.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:14:23 GMT From: "O. Hartmann" To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Cc: Subject: docs/130239: md5(1); md5 is reported to be compromised, but manpage reports others! X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:20:04 -0000 >Number: 130239 >Category: docs >Synopsis: md5(1); md5 is reported to be compromised, but manpage reports others! >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jan 06 17:20:03 UTC 2009 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: O. Hartmann >Release: FreeBSD 8-CUR/AMD64 >Organization: FU Berlin >Environment: >Description: MD5(1) hash algorithm is reported to be compromised. This fact known in theory since 2004 has been undergone aproval on the 25th Annual Chaos Communication Congress in Berlin, Germany. MD5 is now considered harmful! Manpage of md5(1) should have a note on that, the line "... MD5 has not yet (2007-03-05) been broken..." should be corrected. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 19:02:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348EF106564A; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:02:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEF18FC12; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:02:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (remko@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06J25H5080355; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:02:05 GMT (envelope-from remko@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from remko@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n06J25Fc080351; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:02:05 GMT (envelope-from remko) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:02:05 GMT Message-Id: <200901061902.n06J25Fc080351@freefall.freebsd.org> To: remko@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, remko@FreeBSD.org From: remko@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/130239: md5(1); md5 is reported to be compromised, but manpage reports others! X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:02:06 -0000 Synopsis: md5(1); md5 is reported to be compromised, but manpage reports others! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->remko Responsible-Changed-By: remko Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Jan 6 19:02:05 UTC 2009 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=130239 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 19:24:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D421106564A; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from mx-out.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4622D8FC18; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:24:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from mx-av-06.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-01.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06JOaSj028104; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:24:36 +0200 Received: from MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr (mx-in-01.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.23]) by mx-av-06.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06JOarW007028; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:24:36 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp160-148.adsl.forthnet.gr [194.219.40.148]) by MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06JOR3V009335; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:24:29 +0200 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=keramida@freebsd.org; spf=permerror Authentication-Results: MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr header.from=keramida@freebsd.org; sender-id=permerror Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06JORx6079011; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:24:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n06JOPIc079010; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:24:25 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Frank Shute References: <4956903C.5060405@FreeBSD.org> <874p0f9dv7.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20090104203631.GA24306@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:24:25 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20090104203631.GA24306@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> (Frank Shute's message of "Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:36:31 +0000") Message-ID: <87iqosgrva.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Gabor PALI , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Rene Ladan Subject: Re: [RFC] A Handbook Section on Updating the Documentation Set X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:24:39 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:36:31 +0000, Frank Shute wrote: >On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 07:31:56PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:29:48 +0100, Gabor PALI wrote: >>> http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/27/updating-upgrading-documentation.patch.diff >> >> Ping... Any news about this patch? > > Hi Giorgos, > > If you remember, you asked me if I could get the page I wrote about > using csup to update the docs: > > http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/freebsd_uptodate.html > > into some sort of state to be incorporated into the updating section > of the handbook. Hi Frank, "Yes", and if you can review the existing patch by Gabor Pali :) > I've built the docs with Gabor's above patch applied & have started > work on rejigging that section. > > You can see how far I've got. I've only done one page (which is bound > to change) & largely worked on the css, so it's easier to mark-up into > sgml: > > http://www.shute.org.uk/freebsd/synopsis.html Don't spend too much time tweaking the CSS style. We don't often make changes in that area. > I've made an executive decision to change mentions of cvsup to csup > where appropriate since it's in base. Rene Ladan (added to the Cc: list) wanted to write about csup too, if my memory does not fool me. Gabor and Rene had a discussion about this, so before you spend a lot of time writing a long description of csup, maybe it would be a good idea to talk to Gabor and Rene. I'm glad that you are willing to help with the doc updating section. We can always use a bit of help with the documentation :-) Cheers, Giorgos From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 19:51:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D371065672; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:51:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-out.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B749A8FC21; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:51:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-av-05.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-01.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06JJLER026811; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:19:21 +0200 Received: from MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr (mx-in-01.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.23]) by mx-av-05.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06JJLii001674; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:19:21 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp160-148.adsl.forthnet.gr [194.219.40.148]) by MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06JJKQh002727; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:19:21 +0200 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr header.from=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; sender-id=neutral Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06JJJX3078960; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:19:19 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n06JJJwm078959; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:19:19 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gabor PALI References: <4956903C.5060405@FreeBSD.org> <874p0f9dv7.fsf@kobe.laptop> <1054974008.20090104185603@rulez.sk> <496109B1.6060501@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:19:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: <496109B1.6060501@FreeBSD.org> (Gabor PALI's message of "Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:10:41 +0100") Message-ID: <877i58kzt4.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Daniel Gerzo , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [RFC] A Handbook Section on Updating the Documentation Set X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:51:38 -0000 On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:10:41 +0100, Gabor PALI wrote: >Daniel Gerzo wrote: >>Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>> http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/27/updating-upgrading-documentation.patch.diff >>> Ping... Any news about this patch? >> >> I think we are now waiting untill docsnap.sk.freebsd.org will be >> online again after its failure due to its update (should hopefully >> happen tommorrow). > > Yes. However, I could commit this patch to encourage > docsnap.sk.freebsd.org to be online when the patch goes HTML :) FWIW, I've pushed it to our WIP tree for the doc-el team, so it doesn't get lost or forgotten until the naming of the docsnap server is resolved and we can commit it to CVS: http://hg.hellug.gr/freebsd/doc-el/rev/2e56202ccb64 This way we will keep seeing the diff in the local changes every time me and Manolis diff our local work with the imported CVS snapshots, so we will be getting reminders now and then that "this is on the to-do list". From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 20:01:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AB21065670; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 20:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196BF8FC1D; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 20:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id d26so870969eyd.7 for ; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:01:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=05Z4yQoqh0M07GNw8bCZ5ko81BftbN+OzncnFg8ly1U=; b=dp6WsNWrVx7UCydM3s47MieEn/A60iRrD7e4ImMsAatOcSGk2C4JmHO7IR8B60/rHC Q87yE30Us3Ru6laSTToU55TWoGtjIaXHxrnyf2Igr9LdtKdJXdpGcMw2AmKprYTc+dnf ZNuvttOxmK7+7iTpIAMJAa46JvRHmIUSmfBIg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CfjoVIQdM37nwN5ZYIXRxQ1DZrhA00fyFIqgFP8H5fRB+0Rn5l739u5Wpv7KzKEU8N W4aPNexShQu5WVdP1RPjvowf8OiLEtWgjeHc0qFsBO4w0HZt6IRt4Fyh9iDV+Z3on/gM kacon3+yT9YMMyUul/qspBIts3ZVxYj3GszBQ= Received: by 10.67.23.5 with SMTP id a5mr5302022ugj.5.1231272068621; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4365613.home.otenet.gr [79.130.13.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 19sm55599676ugl.12.2009.01.06.12.01.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:01:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4963B881.9040502@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:01:05 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <4956903C.5060405@FreeBSD.org> <874p0f9dv7.fsf@kobe.laptop> <1054974008.20090104185603@rulez.sk> <496109B1.6060501@FreeBSD.org> <877i58kzt4.fsf@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <877i58kzt4.fsf@kobe.laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gabor PALI , Daniel Gerzo , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [RFC] A Handbook Section on Updating the Documentation Set X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:01:11 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:10:41 +0100, Gabor PALI wrote: > >> Daniel Gerzo wrote: >> >>> Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>> >>>> http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/27/updating-upgrading-documentation.patch.diff >>>> Ping... Any news about this patch? >>>> >>> I think we are now waiting untill docsnap.sk.freebsd.org will be >>> online again after its failure due to its update (should hopefully >>> happen tommorrow). >>> >> Yes. However, I could commit this patch to encourage >> docsnap.sk.freebsd.org to be online when the patch goes HTML :) >> > > FWIW, I've pushed it to our WIP tree for the doc-el team, so it doesn't > get lost or forgotten until the naming of the docsnap server is resolved > and we can commit it to CVS: > > http://hg.hellug.gr/freebsd/doc-el/rev/2e56202ccb64 > > This way we will keep seeing the diff in the local changes every time me > and Manolis diff our local work with the imported CVS snapshots, so we > will be getting reminders now and then that "this is on the to-do list". > And for those who prefer to read the actual build instead of the patch, here it is: http://www.freebsdgr.org/handbook-mine/updating-upgrading-documentation.html I will keep this updated when any changes are made. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 20:14:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F422106567A; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 20:14:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5F38FC17; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 20:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so3462372yxb.13 for ; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:14:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=xNz80KlOI+ZTEGeoCC4sNLnLju5CnmKfw0JiQD/QNPY=; b=pcYKoOhDeLXP8da24UyR04SazwUIs1ouMj3J2J6Drvp0asYFqYCiVItpy4gvH2/P9i MNddlJVCGJREw/0QNfrevY7a13xGg7E98oHTroAWPXBrnrxwvJTohP/WW2425ad2Zj1e w9oLwekXtKOcQKgUMcwE1Dsg0GvdEzL5S/reM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=CGqV32YAMAO9pvJNM0GYs9pgJEHGdHI00OMVnYHoxW8Zs6NZgCTh1BxKsmUk9IpE4X IhqCx8iUbeIvXxC8wrMYhAOEY4Xz2VBxM+n+HRcVMY4vGEwrbmobu+hFZNr0NZxJ25Iz dVZZfphWFJEBhrlFJQpJZs7DwvKf7JJZyCJdc= Received: by 10.150.124.2 with SMTP id w2mr38417531ybc.224.1231272852084; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:14:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.40.19 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:14:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:14:12 +0100 From: "Rene Ladan" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" In-Reply-To: <87iqosgrva.fsf@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4956903C.5060405@FreeBSD.org> <874p0f9dv7.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20090104203631.GA24306@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <87iqosgrva.fsf@kobe.laptop> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Gabor PALI Subject: Re: [RFC] A Handbook Section on Updating the Documentation Set X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:14:14 -0000 2009/1/6 Giorgos Keramidas : > On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:36:31 +0000, Frank Shute wrote: >>On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 07:31:56PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>>On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:29:48 +0100, Gabor PALI wrote: >>>> http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/27/updating-upgrading-documentation.patch.diff >>> >>> Ping... Any news about this patch? >> >> Hi Giorgos, >> >> If you remember, you asked me if I could get the page I wrote about >> using csup to update the docs: >> >> http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/freebsd_uptodate.html >> >> into some sort of state to be incorporated into the updating section >> of the handbook. > > Hi Frank, > > "Yes", and if you can review the existing patch by Gabor Pali :) > >> I've built the docs with Gabor's above patch applied & have started >> work on rejigging that section. >> >> You can see how far I've got. I've only done one page (which is bound >> to change) & largely worked on the css, so it's easier to mark-up into >> sgml: >> >> http://www.shute.org.uk/freebsd/synopsis.html > > Don't spend too much time tweaking the CSS style. We don't often make > changes in that area. > >> I've made an executive decision to change mentions of cvsup to csup >> where appropriate since it's in base. > > Rene Ladan (added to the Cc: list) wanted to write about csup too, if my > memory does not fool me. Gabor and Rene had a discussion about this, so > before you spend a lot of time writing a long description of csup, maybe > it would be a good idea to talk to Gabor and Rene. > No? I think you're confused with the SVN patches for the committers guide. Regards, Rene -- http://www.rene-ladan.nl/ GPG fingerprint = E738 5471 D185 7013 0EE0 4FC8 3C1D 6F83 12E1 84F6 (subkeys.pgp.net) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 20:26:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2557A106564A; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 20:26:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from mx-out.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834458FC0C; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 20:26:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from mx-av-06.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-03.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06KRPt7014987; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:27:25 +0200 Received: from MX-IN-02.forthnet.gr (mx-in-02.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.185]) by mx-av-06.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06KQQw3027857; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:26:26 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp160-148.adsl.forthnet.gr [194.219.40.148]) by MX-IN-02.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06KQNSh013907; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:26:25 +0200 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-02.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=keramida@freebsd.org; spf=permerror Authentication-Results: MX-IN-02.forthnet.gr header.from=keramida@freebsd.org; sender-id=permerror Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06KQNfd089390; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:26:23 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n06KQM2Z089389; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:26:22 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Rene Ladan" References: <4956903C.5060405@FreeBSD.org> <874p0f9dv7.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20090104203631.GA24306@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <87iqosgrva.fsf@kobe.laptop> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:26:22 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Rene Ladan's message of "Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:14:12 +0100") Message-ID: <87wsd86v0x.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Gabor PALI Subject: Re: [RFC] A Handbook Section on Updating the Documentation Set X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:26:29 -0000 On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:14:12 +0100, "Rene Ladan" wrote: >2009/1/6 Giorgos Keramidas : >> http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/27/updating-upgrading-documentation.patch.diff >> >> Rene Ladan (added to the Cc: list) wanted to write about csup too, if my >> memory does not fool me. Gabor and Rene had a discussion about this, so >> before you spend a lot of time writing a long description of csup, maybe >> it would be a good idea to talk to Gabor and Rene. > > No? I think you're confused with the SVN patches for the committers guide. Ok, I don't remember all the details and I seem to have deleted some of the messages in the thread between you, me, Gabor, Tom and Manolis :/ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 21:56:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E0B1065674 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:56:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633BC8FC12 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:56:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n06Lgtos032782; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:42:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id n06LgtRQ032781; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:42:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:42:55 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Christopher G D Tipper Message-ID: <20090106214255.GA32673@abigail.blackend.org> References: <49635F10.50905@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49635F10.50905@gmail.com> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Handbook Partition size recommendation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:56:43 -0000 On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 01:39:28PM +0000, Christopher G D Tipper wrote: > Hi, > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html > Hello, > At the moment you are recommending a 512MB partition for root ('/'). I > have found this to be inadequate and I don't know how to resize > partitions. If you recompile the kernel, backup GENERIC etc. you will > quickly run out of space I have found. I think the figure should be > changed to 1GB. > Just under these recommendations, a red warning says: "Warning: The values above are given as example and should be used by experienced users only. Users are encouraged to use the automatic partition layout called Auto Defaults by the FreeBSD partition editor." Even if the text would say 1GB, some will find it too limited according to their usage. > Also you have no recommendation on 'home'. This seems to be an > oversight, as it makes the recommended size for root even more inadequate. /home is actually, by default, under /usr so it should not depend on / size (I'm not sure to understand your remark) Regarding the /home size, how can we guess the size of the user data? > > This email is for information only. I will not be responding to any replies. > -- Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 22:29:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347A6106564A; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from services.rulez.sk (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3168FC0C; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:29:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32926133446A; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:29:42 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rulez.sk Received: from services.rulez.sk ([92.240.234.125]) by localhost (services.rulez.sk [92.240.234.125]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oZgiubs28Yvq; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:29:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from DANGER-PC (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) (Authenticated sender: danger@rulez.sk) by services.rulez.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3B581133445A; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:29:41 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:29:35 +0100 From: Daniel Gerzo Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <106961002.20090106232935@rulez.sk> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1054974008.20090104185603@rulez.sk> References: <4956903C.5060405@FreeBSD.org> <874p0f9dv7.fsf@kobe.laptop> <1054974008.20090104185603@rulez.sk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Gabor PALI , Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re[3]: [RFC] A Handbook Section on Updating the Documentation Set X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:29:43 -0000 Hello Daniel, Sunday, January 4, 2009, 6:56:03 PM, you wrote: > Hello Giorgos, > Sunday, January 4, 2009, 6:31:56 PM, you wrote: >> On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:29:48 +0100, Gabor PALI wrote: >>> http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/27/updating-upgrading-do= cumentation.patch.diff >> Ping... Any news about this patch? >> If there are no objections since Dec 27, it would be nice if we >> committed it to CVS. > I think we are now waiting untill docsnap.sk.freebsd.org will be > online again after its failure due to its update (should hopefully > happen tommorrow). so to update the status of this issue: the cvsup.sk.freebsd.org (so also ftp.sk and other services it has been provided including docsnap.sk) server has died, well...completely. It has to be replaced with the brand new hardware, which is going to take some time to get. So I leaving the decision whether you want to commit it as-is, or not, but this box will not be online this month I suppose. You may consider commiting it however leaving it detached from the build though. Thanks for understanding. --=20 Best regards, Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 23:31:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86CA21065670; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from mx-out.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A9B8FC14; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:31:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from mx-av-06.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-05.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06NEdkB025258; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 01:14:39 +0200 Received: from MX-IN-02.forthnet.gr (mx-in-02.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.185]) by mx-av-06.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06NEdk7012096; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 01:14:39 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp160-148.adsl.forthnet.gr [194.219.40.148]) by MX-IN-02.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06NEW01015924; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 01:14:33 +0200 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-02.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=keramida@freebsd.org; spf=permerror Authentication-Results: MX-IN-02.forthnet.gr header.from=keramida@freebsd.org; sender-id=permerror Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06NEWuH091085; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 01:14:32 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n06NEVnQ091084; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 01:14:32 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Daniel Gerzo In-Reply-To: <287359450.20090104174842@rulez.sk> (Daniel Gerzo's message of "Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:48:42 +0100") Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:10:25 +0200 Message-ID: <87k598rpy6.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <200901041541.n04Ff1Oh060753@svn.freebsd.org> <20090104155832.GA1257@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE> <287359450.20090104174842@rulez.sk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: doc@freebsd.org, Christian Brueffer Subject: Re: svn commit: r186737 - head/sbin/geom/class/virstor X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:31:15 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:48:42 +0100, Daniel Gerzo wrote: > Hello Christian, > > Sunday, January 4, 2009, 4:58:32 PM, you wrote: > >> While using .Ex is good, collapsing EXIT STATUS into DIAGNOSTICS is not. >> EXIT STATUS is a standard section in our manpages and it's orthogonal to >> DIAGNOSTICS. > > I am fine to revert this part, however I have trimmed this section > just because I didn't see it listed in the PAGE STRUCTURE DOMAIN > section of the mdoc(7) manual page. > > Interestingly, it lists the DIAGNOSTICS section and explicitly > says that .Ex macro should be used there. Then the mdoc(7) manpage needs updating. IIRC it was Ruslan who first started using the EXIT STATUS section, but it looks nice in a very prominent place of many manpages. A few that I can remember off the top of my head (only because I went through their text recently) are: ls.1 chmod.1 chown.1 dump.8 > If is it still preferred to revert this change, I would like to see > this section added to the mdoc(7). Thoughts? Yes please. I'd like to see EXIT STATUS described in groff_mdoc.7 and a few examples of appropriate use added. Something that describes how we should use the `.Ex -std' macro, when -std is not enough, and/or a few words about the preferred way of spelling out exit codes would be pretty awesome. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 23:43:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BAF4106564A; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:43:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-out.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0438FC13; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:43:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-04.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06NEf4P027445; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 01:14:41 +0200 Received: from MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr (mx-in-01.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.23]) by mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06NEf0d009889; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 01:14:41 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (ppp160-148.adsl.forthnet.gr [194.219.40.148]) by MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06NEXht016163; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 01:14:34 +0200 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr header.from=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; sender-id=neutral Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n06NEXts091089; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 01:14:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n06NEWNZ091088; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 01:14:32 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Hiroki Sato In-Reply-To: <20090105.054435.125149473.hrs@allbsd.org> (Hiroki Sato's message of "Mon, 05 Jan 2009 05:44:35 +0900 (JST)") Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:13:54 +0200 Message-ID: <87vdssqb7x.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <1289663263.20090104185721@rulez.sk> <20090105.032211.33865530.hrs@allbsd.org> <20090104194844.GB1257@haakonia.hitnet.RWTH-Aachen.DE> <20090105.054435.125149473.hrs@allbsd.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: danger@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r186737 - head/sbin/geom/class/virstor X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:43:13 -0000 On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 05:44:35 +0900 (JST), Hiroki Sato wrote: > 2. Otherwise, EXIT STATUS section should match the reality as > possible. This means if a command returns 0 on success, 1 on > error, and the other values are not returned, the description in > the manual page should be "it exits 0 on success, and 1 if an > error occurs". Agreed. There are tools that assign special meanings to separate >0 error codes, i.e. diff3(1) which exits with: 0 when successful 1 when there are conflicts in the three files being merged 2 when something unexpected but bad nonetheless happens Being precise about the error codes is critical in this case. It may be equally important in other places too. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 06:54:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4ADA106564A; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 06:54:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6F88FC16; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 06:54:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LKSIm-0001DL-P1; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:54:04 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n076s351004041; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 06:54:03 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3EDFBFCB841; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 06:53:58 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 06:53:58 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20090107065358.GA36732@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Giorgos Keramidas , Gabor PALI , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <4956903C.5060405@FreeBSD.org> <874p0f9dv7.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20090104203631.GA24306@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <87iqosgrva.fsf@kobe.laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87iqosgrva.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:54:04 +0000 (GMT) Cc: Gabor PALI , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] A Handbook Section on Updating the Documentation Set X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:54:10 -0000 On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 09:24:25PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:36:31 +0000, Frank Shute wrote: > >On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 07:31:56PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >>On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:29:48 +0100, Gabor PALI wrote: > >>> http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/27/updating-upgrading-documentation.patch.diff > >> > >> Ping... Any news about this patch? > > > > Hi Giorgos, > > > > If you remember, you asked me if I could get the page I wrote about > > using csup to update the docs: > > > > http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/freebsd_uptodate.html > > > > into some sort of state to be incorporated into the updating section > > of the handbook. > > Hi Frank, > > "Yes", and if you can review the existing patch by Gabor Pali :) I've had a look at the patch and I like it. I wish it had existed in the docs before! A niggle though: Are the docs going to start using s/cvsup/csup/? ATM, there's only a note in "A.6 Using CVSup" about using csup instead of cvsup; but the chapter on installing ports uses csup. It's all a bit inconsistent. I think Gabor's patch should use csup & have a note about using cvsup if you've got an OS < 6.2. As far as I can see, only developers who want to pull the CVS files need cvsup & those with older releases... although they can install the csup port with it's fewer dependencies. I didn't see any errors in it otherwise & I thought it gave a nice easy to follow guide which is what's needed. > > > I've built the docs with Gabor's above patch applied & have started > > work on rejigging that section. > > > > You can see how far I've got. I've only done one page (which is bound > > to change) & largely worked on the css, so it's easier to mark-up into > > sgml: > > > > http://www.shute.org.uk/freebsd/synopsis.html > > Don't spend too much time tweaking the CSS style. We don't often make > changes in that area. I wanted to tweak the CSS on my site so it more closely followed that of FreeBSD. I develop my site by shamelessly copying ;) > > > I've made an executive decision to change mentions of cvsup to csup > > where appropriate since it's in base. > > Rene Ladan (added to the Cc: list) wanted to write about csup too, if my > memory does not fool me. Gabor and Rene had a discussion about this, so > before you spend a lot of time writing a long description of csup, maybe > it would be a good idea to talk to Gabor and Rene. I think my write-up on csup is largely redundant although the: cd /usr/src make update cd /usr/ports make fetchindex stuff should be covered somewhere & I don't think it is. > > I'm glad that you are willing to help with the doc updating section. We > can always use a bit of help with the documentation :-) It's a pleasure :) I'll hang around on doc@ and if I can help in any capacity I'll try and do so. I'm yet to read the fdp primer all the way through, so I'm a bit useless ATM :( > > Cheers, > Giorgos > Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 07:36:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9A3106566B; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 07:36:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551CC8FC0C; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 07:35:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so9895159ewy.19 for ; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:35:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1cGs5WJzXgdfwAmEgP7YUOa0/yh3X/3jxh1Ejf6ZlRk=; b=C4R9YO0Zs5DvTxPRWd1frZRh9bKd1zg7JbkCfxuh8qe8UySRYV6s1jblnElwzV0Fh3 de4rEn0R9jLO+YBVTZ0YvZ6/cc+cWz+lIIlVU0acXAWtaLIrhtJlNE58zqMTEh7ECxPJ oizQ6wytH29/ReBxv1lSfcJaVdtgsEwTWu4L4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Z/k4SYc9qX2xIcDeTCKNjB043TBW5xmVZEVkKURkfyldJx/jGT9sy3q/wrt4tZ1GKy kmeb932gFkUAJGTlFDF3GdWeATIF27ZMoQCkCRtbWJZRTjqgRvG2sFXxePR7J5XF1Iil GBjfn4DqH6NSQJtEe5UCLWAKUZd7xCoAMaFVc= Received: by 10.210.54.17 with SMTP id c17mr5193666eba.35.1231313757890; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:35:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from theone.dyndns.org ([81.186.52.90]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm3403293eyz.39.2009.01.06.23.35.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:35:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49645B49.8020301@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:35:37 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas , Gabor PALI , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, frank@shute.org.uk References: <4956903C.5060405@FreeBSD.org> <874p0f9dv7.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20090104203631.GA24306@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <87iqosgrva.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20090107065358.GA36732@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090107065358.GA36732@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: [RFC] A Handbook Section on Updating the Documentation Set X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 07:36:00 -0000 Frank Shute wrote: > On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 09:24:25PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >> On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:36:31 +0000, Frank Shute wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 07:31:56PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:29:48 +0100, Gabor PALI wrote: >>>> >>>>> http://people.freebsd.org/~pgj/patches/2008/12/27/updating-upgrading-documentation.patch.diff >>>>> >>>> Ping... Any news about this patch? >>>> >>> Hi Giorgos, >>> >>> If you remember, you asked me if I could get the page I wrote about >>> using csup to update the docs: >>> >>> http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/freebsd_uptodate.html >>> >>> into some sort of state to be incorporated into the updating section >>> of the handbook. >>> >> Hi Frank, >> >> "Yes", and if you can review the existing patch by Gabor Pali :) >> > > I've had a look at the patch and I like it. I wish it had existed in > the docs before! > > A niggle though: > > Are the docs going to start using s/cvsup/csup/? ATM, there's only a > note in "A.6 Using CVSup" about using csup instead of cvsup; but the > chapter on installing ports uses csup. It's all a bit inconsistent. > > There is a note in the synopsis of the 'Updating and Upgrading FreeBSD' chapter that cvsup may be substituted by csup in the chapter's instructions. Currently, cvsup has a "cvs mode" used to replicate entire repositories (and not simply performing a checkout as csup does). This is mostly used by developers though, and most handbook instructions use cvsup exactly like csup. AFAIK, there is an effort to introduce this functionality in csup too. CVSup will then become redundant. Until then it will unfortunately keep causing confusion to lots of people. > I think Gabor's patch should use csup & have a note about using cvsup > if you've got an OS < 6.2. As far as I can see, only developers who > want to pull the CVS files need cvsup & those with older releases... > although they can install the csup port with it's fewer dependencies. > > I didn't see any errors in it otherwise & I thought it gave a nice > easy to follow guide which is what's needed. > > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 08:14:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45747106566C for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:14:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140268FC13 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:14:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from minimarmot@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so10917447wfg.7 for ; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 00:14:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=PaM7CdK7gXDrKjoT1LRjfBhS1PjR/hi4FllZtqKJ8+g=; b=CEkC9KdiEURcqaWbWdBN7nWteilSNwBskkx/j/aq1sLvfbPMuu6cSYrjZh5teDkG+t nqR+QSiugk+GJxWowdH8Jbtreo6TIpw01efMx11e+/vmVE4sRRsTlxOmjEn+ZtycI5vn C577TiQ6k329Sf5wPW8xBN3aVwor7439nEYtg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=wu0DcD+fvQ8rZRFj536wy5/YiogLjgwxtJt1PEuUxK9j6iH0LbjnrOZ89LhFC/j+yd tny6QlJxG1z9N3TV3mA/6ph5GPCXI3+po6WHR1may3FBZE2CYhsDkHB5+go9wEIFZUoT Z5HPBrr8EIAZXMEKEQurJGotfWnlWu23vOM+Y= Received: by 10.142.241.10 with SMTP id o10mr9544823wfh.112.1231314088293; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:41:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.109.9 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:41:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47d0403c0901062341g75e55394j625302c1e387a0f6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 02:41:28 -0500 From: "Ben Kaduk" To: "Manolis Kiagias" In-Reply-To: <49645B49.8020301@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4956903C.5060405@FreeBSD.org> <874p0f9dv7.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20090104203631.GA24306@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <87iqosgrva.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20090107065358.GA36732@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <49645B49.8020301@gmail.com> Cc: Gabor PALI , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: [RFC] A Handbook Section on Updating the Documentation Set X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:14:10 -0000 On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > There is a note in the synopsis of the 'Updating and Upgrading FreeBSD' > chapter that cvsup may be substituted by csup in the chapter's instructions. > Currently, cvsup has a "cvs mode" used to replicate entire repositories (and > not simply performing a checkout as csup does). This is mostly used by > developers though, and most handbook instructions use cvsup exactly like > csup. > AFAIK, there is an effort to introduce this functionality in csup too. CVSup > will then become redundant. Until then it will unfortunately keep causing > confusion to lots of people. Actually, the repository mode for csup hit the CURRENT tree a couple days ago ... -Ben Kaduk From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 08:48:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7434A1065670; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06EC8FC1C; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:48:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so1386075ugs.39 for ; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 00:48:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=v4MbNrpZ8Z98/pfwSbBEefbQv1ol/Z6PdC+Ym1eyBVA=; b=LcanjQKiN7hNnLGpWAAQWNi4Sh1dLIZwTCsnFNCbN6JoP+zzDl0SQY3hmxApZ5vZLg Vt+Duomm4H/pF0xlBuUwhugT7MsxbiY0Rt1xoOMVXxjJ9aocb5Uk5ph7GrBlH4/VBm5q KZoAyBtn++E9Iadv7nURGsMmeCFI5XOR/KsDg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WkqS4UH9ZE1e19O8WlpeV+I7JcWo8ePrFZQy1hbSq016iUXIFBYtUhrXB+uG6HmS6z TMNh6zKX+X4BKf46H2er8eKy+ICP55zvybkocpSaGCgUlDjbym7MZL1j60742kDjcGE6 6ef5JWGQITvUufEc4ZVmeC4oQMaofkfrKu7c0= Received: by 10.67.105.18 with SMTP id h18mr6436765ugm.11.1231318092314; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 00:48:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4365613.home.otenet.gr [79.130.13.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 19sm56691777ugl.12.2009.01.07.00.48.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 07 Jan 2009 00:48:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49646C47.6070505@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:48:07 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Kaduk References: <4956903C.5060405@FreeBSD.org> <874p0f9dv7.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20090104203631.GA24306@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <87iqosgrva.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20090107065358.GA36732@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <49645B49.8020301@gmail.com> <47d0403c0901062341g75e55394j625302c1e387a0f6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47d0403c0901062341g75e55394j625302c1e387a0f6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gabor PALI , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: [RFC] A Handbook Section on Updating the Documentation Set X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:48:15 -0000 Ben Kaduk wrote: > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > >> There is a note in the synopsis of the 'Updating and Upgrading FreeBSD' >> chapter that cvsup may be substituted by csup in the chapter's instructions. >> Currently, cvsup has a "cvs mode" used to replicate entire repositories (and >> not simply performing a checkout as csup does). This is mostly used by >> developers though, and most handbook instructions use cvsup exactly like >> csup. >> AFAIK, there is an effort to introduce this functionality in csup too. CVSup >> will then become redundant. Until then it will unfortunately keep causing >> confusion to lots of people. >> > > > Actually, the repository mode for csup hit the CURRENT > tree a couple days ago ... > > -Ben Kaduk > > Thanks! Will this be MFCed? It would be nice to have in 7-STABLE. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 09:24:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D478106566B; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pittgoth.com (pittgoth.com [205.134.163.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16A68FC1B; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost.fbsdsecure.org (net-ix.gw.ai.net [205.134.160.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by pittgoth.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n079ORtf003144 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 7 Jan 2009 04:24:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 04:24:25 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Manolis Kiagias Message-Id: <20090107042425.3444f2f2.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <49646C47.6070505@gmail.com> References: <4956903C.5060405@FreeBSD.org> <874p0f9dv7.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20090104203631.GA24306@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <87iqosgrva.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20090107065358.GA36732@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <49645B49.8020301@gmail.com> <47d0403c0901062341g75e55394j625302c1e387a0f6@mail.gmail.com> <49646C47.6070505@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pgj@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, keramida@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [RFC] A Handbook Section on Updating the Documentation Set X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:24:31 -0000 On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:48:07 +0200 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Ben Kaduk wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > > >> There is a note in the synopsis of the 'Updating and Upgrading FreeBSD' > >> chapter that cvsup may be substituted by csup in the chapter's instructions. > >> Currently, cvsup has a "cvs mode" used to replicate entire repositories (and > >> not simply performing a checkout as csup does). This is mostly used by > >> developers though, and most handbook instructions use cvsup exactly like > >> csup. > >> AFAIK, there is an effort to introduce this functionality in csup too. CVSup > >> will then become redundant. Until then it will unfortunately keep causing > >> confusion to lots of people. > >> > > > > > > Actually, the repository mode for csup hit the CURRENT > > tree a couple days ago ... > > > > -Ben Kaduk > > > > > Thanks! Will this be MFCed? It would be nice to have in 7-STABLE. I seen that commit; however, I would rather see it somewhere other than just CURRENT. Especially if we will be changing the recommendation of using cvsup in favor of csup. It has come a long way, and I use it, but apparently it is not yet a drop in replacement. Until then, this, and the PR about it (something.README?) should remain as-is. :) Thanks! -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 09:27:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A356A1065670; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 772998FC08; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n079RGXc070213; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:27:16 GMT (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n079RGCt070209; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:27:16 GMT (envelope-from trhodes) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:27:16 GMT Message-Id: <200901070927.n079RGCt070209@freefall.freebsd.org> To: arthur.hartwig@nokia.com, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, mav@FreeBSD.org From: trhodes@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/85100: NOTES: ICH audio device support statement is ambiguous X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:27:17 -0000 Synopsis: NOTES: ICH audio device support statement is ambiguous State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Wed Jan 7 09:25:57 UTC 2009 State-Changed-Why: Alexander has recently patched this up in CURRENT, assign to him. Thanks Alexander! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->mav Responsible-Changed-By: trhodes Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Jan 7 09:25:57 UTC 2009 Responsible-Changed-Why: Alexander has recently patched this up in CURRENT, assign to him. Thanks Alexander! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=85100 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 11:33:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F5510656D0 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:33:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thomas.hill@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0198FC17 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:33:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thomas.hill@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so9650343rvf.43 for ; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:33:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=TYrLDEdaKC7DLFgwSVnNp48igTPykOVKVPlk5cyH/BQ=; b=AkkB6cDquuTsIu8xrVNEUoqqZ+De4qSxbXVuGg7GqoO/KiZG2TtUGe1SKrsvfWvQ3X AlNsURkjR10tH57rs3SPsksoI3hxlAxqBLOxgJSQscxUf+DOGkWOSXmcwjM+W1SiDLTS bKntdLS1aeqoHyxY3LZfL3jUG0MmwAs4/NKqk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=freVRLk2GyhfQy+HSr/yX7u+zb1ZWg/yOeAhp3ONr4Kx5gWl47r/Pipyih6Kk2LnsY fcV8NJw9dGVPR35FdytoKSmpC8hL00XMiDBe9xAVJ0h/1moDujCNL9Xzyzx/AWZ8cUFB 1HUgPw0RDPg/fyEHzEBVgha+49AOoAzh9q/oM= Received: by 10.141.97.5 with SMTP id z5mr11443680rvl.269.1231326361553; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:06:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.48.9 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 03:06:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <16d84f1c0901070306u70aa78a5rd47a2ec80bff0be0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 06:06:01 -0500 From: "Thomas Hill" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: minor typographical error X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 11:33:18 -0000 http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.1R/announce.html Note: the error is located in the "Acknowledgments" section: s/companiews/companies -- Thomas From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 14:05:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F72106564A for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@rulez.sk) Received: from hosting.cia.sk (hosting.cia.sk [92.240.234.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5778FC08 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@rulez.sk) Received: from hosting.cia.sk (hosting.cia.sk [92.240.234.123]) by hosting.cia.sk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n07DbKfe094191; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:37:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from danger@rulez.sk) Received: (from www@localhost) by hosting.cia.sk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n07DbE6R094110; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:37:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from danger@rulez.sk) X-Authentication-Warning: hosting.cia.sk: www set sender to danger@rulez.sk using -f To: Thomas Hill MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:37:14 +0100 From: Daniel Gerzo In-Reply-To: <16d84f1c0901070306u70aa78a5rd47a2ec80bff0be0@mail.gmail.com> References: <16d84f1c0901070306u70aa78a5rd47a2ec80bff0be0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <23037fb95bf6029622f195a7e67c0e7f@services.rulez.sk> X-Sender: danger@rulez.sk User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.2a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: minor typographical error X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:05:20 -0000 Dear Thomas, I have fixed the typo, it should appear online after the next scheduled web site rebuild (should be within 2 hours). Thank you for reporting the issue! On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 06:06:01 -0500, "Thomas Hill" wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.1R/announce.html > > Note: the error is located in the "Acknowledgments" section: > > s/companiews/companies > > -- S pozdravom / Best regards Daniel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 09:08:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22675106564A for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:08:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx22.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56C38FC1B for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 12993 invoked by uid 399); 8 Jan 2009 08:42:00 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO lap.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 8 Jan 2009 08:42:00 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <4965BC57.9040708@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:41:59 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090102) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Would it be useful/appropriate to remove news about betas and RCs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:08:41 -0000 I was looking through my collection of RSS feeds and noticed that the FreeBSD one currently has one mention of 7.1-RELEASE and also one mention each of 7.1-RC[12] and I started wondering if it would be "good" to remove those arguably stale news items. If there is a good reason to keep them that's fine with me, I just thought it would be nice to clean up a bit. I'm happy to do the work if the consensus is that this is a good idea. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 10:45:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A32106566C for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from websrv01.jr-hosting.nl (websrv01.jr-hosting.nl [78.47.69.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8AA8FC1F for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from mirage.snow.nl ([212.72.238.2] helo=scn-lan33.snowcn.snow.nl) by websrv01.jr-hosting.nl with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LKsO3-00042p-U6; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:45:15 +0100 Message-Id: <7B2576B5-1E9F-498C-98D8-CCC3C4599DDE@elvandar.org> From: Remko Lodder To: Doug Barton In-Reply-To: <4965BC57.9040708@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:45:12 +0100 References: <4965BC57.9040708@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Would it be useful/appropriate to remove news about betas and RCs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:45:17 -0000 On Jan 8, 2009, at 9:41 AM, Doug Barton wrote: > I was looking through my collection of RSS feeds and noticed that the > FreeBSD one currently has one mention of 7.1-RELEASE and also one > mention each of 7.1-RC[12] and I started wondering if it would be > "good" to remove those arguably stale news items. If there is a good > reason to keep them that's fine with me, I just thought it would be > nice to clean up a bit. > > I'm happy to do the work if the consensus is that this is a good idea. > > Doug > > I think it should stay, they are achievements made by the development team, to which people can see activity. Removing the items would mean that the period between 'news' gets longer, which might not be what we want. I would enfavor that the entries stay.. Cheers remko -- /"\ Best regards, | remko@FreeBSD.org \ / Remko Lodder | remko@EFnet X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 11:12:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37E410656EF for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:12:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A41C8FC25 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so10638745ewy.19 for ; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:12:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/V66cXzRXkNxGiG0piSCBrmz3VGYN/nh1OmsZ9qMzYQ=; b=b1uHs1uivilnc0DskCJ+TZzlN8oRAGLWwFoEc7a79RDLzd4oFkDxJ35JeINGrD+TOv 3AXkwwU3st1Jc15Luc6c8sMwq51KET5/J9xvX1PMSzUT9AHGf3t9GZMpONTa+JCwEoay 1PK556pUkpbXIu+Dm9zF2JGXxdayFJoyDdhYo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=J08WpET1cGfdfVtAgClq5qAh67jRpeP63jm2SCe3U0jfO/FnISkCxPFUxTsvqUouMt pgJUQW0HmXlaNreVqBNcxSn1/WDDvScL/HrmJkjrH8vrSt0NFm3yyCBBCeKWv235/LfA iU8YpEXNrNugtuCzi9mdsg/9J/3fRqwvvNfoo= Received: by 10.210.10.1 with SMTP id 1mr9159570ebj.51.1231413141868; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:12:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4534236.home.otenet.gr [94.70.251.228]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c14sm85762408nfi.43.2009.01.08.03.12.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 08 Jan 2009 03:12:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4965DF93.5080808@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:12:19 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Remko Lodder References: <4965BC57.9040708@FreeBSD.org> <7B2576B5-1E9F-498C-98D8-CCC3C4599DDE@elvandar.org> In-Reply-To: <7B2576B5-1E9F-498C-98D8-CCC3C4599DDE@elvandar.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Doug Barton Subject: Re: Would it be useful/appropriate to remove news about betas and RCs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:12:24 -0000 Remko Lodder wrote: > > On Jan 8, 2009, at 9:41 AM, Doug Barton wrote: > >> I was looking through my collection of RSS feeds and noticed that the >> FreeBSD one currently has one mention of 7.1-RELEASE and also one >> mention each of 7.1-RC[12] and I started wondering if it would be >> "good" to remove those arguably stale news items. If there is a good >> reason to keep them that's fine with me, I just thought it would be >> nice to clean up a bit. >> >> I'm happy to do the work if the consensus is that this is a good idea. >> >> Doug >> >> > > > I think it should stay, they are achievements made by the development > team, to which people can see activity. Removing the items would mean > that the period between 'news' gets longer, which might not be what we > want. > > I would enfavor that the entries stay.. > > Cheers > remko > Me too. Betas and RCs are in themselves milestones of the Project, I don't think there is a need to remove them Manolis From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 17:55:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E42610657CD for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9320C8FC19 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:55:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so10864058ewy.19 for ; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:55:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type; bh=LTleyxJxFuV8Qijj6MJ/scSO6B6QHCuTNL5Uuv5EPf0=; b=X1jl1nufxPRJihGhR4mO7B4llIZwJOb1pmpkxbFOA8T/7w6fcELYaQPGR7joMmvu85 hJl67JIm2fr2JmuJFzDtE4ZG+rGmtTw6o7ngAP2xxxVqPxltxzRcP3qwTvsh3GbcMmnk Igq9Y/0IenPBKtA+Nkp5V16VfftXjoUUfUXoY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type; b=kjPsKNf/cSHNhsN2D1fGkJAYoalQ/pi9MdD0lLdll7CZMr06IrdjGrYoCtx3cF2J5c HFqryIZk9F8kbxiPX5kA6r9/UgioyG3H1i0U2+vCP556x3eWCrn8wG66GGwEXt8EQ8xh Tb5me8TAdhUIL9MMy+BliMeSglaSM4mWB6Tc8= Received: by 10.210.127.10 with SMTP id z10mr5763242ebc.106.1231437316381; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:55:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4534236.home.otenet.gr [94.70.251.228]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 2sm40786266nfv.26.2009.01.08.09.55.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:55:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49663DFE.4040305@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:55:10 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD doc list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040509080909080409060104" Cc: Subject: [Fwd: Re: Would it be useful/appropriate to remove news about betas and RCs?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:55:19 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040509080909080409060104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Relaying Murray's answer, as it only reached me I guess... --------------040509080909080409060104 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Re: Would it be useful/appropriate to remove news about betas and RCs?.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename*0="Re: Would it be useful/appropriate to remove news about beta"; filename*1="s and RCs?.eml" X-Account-Key: account4 X-Mozilla-Keys: Delivered-To: sonic2000gr@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.106.132 with SMTP id x4cs1322578fao; Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:43:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.215.12.21 with SMTP id p21mr10918601qai.43.1231436464780; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:41:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 8si34512900ywg.55.2009.01.08.09.41.04; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:41:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 64.233.170.184 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of murray@stokely.org) client-ip=64.233.170.184; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 64.233.170.184 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of murray@stokely.org) smtp.mail=murray@stokely.org Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j36so11122718rne.6 for ; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:41:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.106.7 with SMTP id i7mr2369290ybm.118.1231436464014; Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:41:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from ?10.95.62.218? ([32.159.116.234]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o29sm475565elf.9.2009.01.08.09.40.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 08 Jan 2009 09:40:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5F4284F4-96C1-4398-AD18-CD646FDA26C1@stokely.org> From: Murray Stokely To: Manolis Kiagias In-Reply-To: <4965DF93.5080808@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5G77) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5G77) Subject: Re: Would it be useful/appropriate to remove news about betas and RCs? Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:40:01 -0800 References: <4965BC57.9040708@FreeBSD.org> <7B2576B5-1E9F-498C-98D8-CCC3C4599DDE@elvandar.org> <4965DF93.5080808@gmail.com> They certainly belong still in the rss feed and full newsflash page but we could be doing more intelligent filtering for the limited screen real estate on the main page. We could omit the rc and beta announcements on the main page once a release is out, or omit results older than n months even if they are among last k results for that feed. Murray Sent from my iPhone On Jan 8, 2009, at 3:12 AM, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Remko Lodder wrote: >> >> On Jan 8, 2009, at 9:41 AM, Doug Barton wrote: >> >>> I was looking through my collection of RSS feeds and noticed that >>> the >>> FreeBSD one currently has one mention of 7.1-RELEASE and also one >>> mention each of 7.1-RC[12] and I started wondering if it would be >>> "good" to remove those arguably stale news items. If there is a good >>> reason to keep them that's fine with me, I just thought it would be >>> nice to clean up a bit. >>> >>> I'm happy to do the work if the consensus is that this is a good >>> idea. >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> >> >> >> I think it should stay, they are achievements made by the development >> team, to which people can see activity. Removing the items would mean >> that the period between 'news' gets longer, which might not be what >> we >> want. >> >> I would enfavor that the entries stay.. >> >> Cheers >> remko >> > Me too. Betas and RCs are in themselves milestones of the Project, I > don't think there is a need to remove them > > Manolis > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------040509080909080409060104-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 08:41:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F0C1065675 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 08:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx22.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5FB8FC17 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 08:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 22649 invoked by uid 399); 9 Jan 2009 08:14:55 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO lap.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 9 Jan 2009 08:14:55 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 00:14:54 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Barton To: Manolis Kiagias , murray@stokely.org In-Reply-To: <49663DFE.4040305@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <49663DFE.4040305@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-message-flag: Outlook -- Not just for spreading viruses anymore! X-OpenPGP-Key-ID: 0xD5B2F0FB Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Would it be useful/appropriate to remove news about betas and RCs?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 08:41:37 -0000 This is sort of along the lines I was thinking, especially about the front page, and I think that keeping all of the news on the news flash page is also a good idea. I'd like to suggest however that in the RSS feed that they are not valuable. If I'm looking at the RSS feed as my source of news about FreeBSD it's not really relevant to me that there were N betas/RCs prior to the release, I just want to see the news about the release. I'm not suggesting that the information about betas and RCs is not valuable, I just think we need to differentiate between "news" and "history." Doug On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Relaying Murray's answer, as it only reached me I guess... They certainly belong still in the rss feed and full newsflash page but we could be doing more intelligent filtering for the limited screen real estate on the main page. We could omit the rc and beta announcements on the main page once a release is out, or omit results older than n months even if they are among last k results for that feed. 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Following options are needed in the kernel configuration to enable the redzone(9) support: options KDB options DDB options DEBUG_REDZONE Redzone manual page mentions only the DEBUG_REDZONE option. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- redzone-doc-require-ddb.diff begins here --- Index: share/man/man9/redzone.9 =================================================================== --- share/man/man9/redzone.9 (revision 186538) +++ share/man/man9/redzone.9 (working copy) @@ -31,6 +31,8 @@ .Nm RedZone .Nd "buffer corruptions detector" .Sh SYNOPSIS +.Cd "options KDB" +.Cd "options DDB" .Cd "options DEBUG_REDZONE" .Sh DESCRIPTION .Nm --- redzone-doc-require-ddb.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 14:42:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BE31065673; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDEB8FC14; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (brueffer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n09EgRY2075233; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:42:27 GMT (envelope-from brueffer@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brueffer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n09EgRQ4075229; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:42:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from brueffer) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:42:27 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200901091442.n09EgRQ4075229@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jh@saunalahti.fi, brueffer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: brueffer@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/130324: [patch] document that redzone(9) requires ddb(4) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:42:28 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] document that redzone(9) requires ddb(4) State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: brueffer State-Changed-When: Fri Jan 9 15:42:07 CET 2009 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=130324 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 14:42:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC431065672; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:42:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962D18FC12; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:42:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brueffer@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (brueffer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n09EgwTE075280; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:42:58 GMT (envelope-from brueffer@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from brueffer@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n09Egwwa075276; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:42:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from brueffer) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:42:58 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200901091442.n09Egwwa075276@freefall.freebsd.org> To: brueffer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, brueffer@FreeBSD.org From: brueffer@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/130324: [patch] document that redzone(9) requires ddb(4) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:42:59 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] document that redzone(9) requires ddb(4) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->brueffer Responsible-Changed-By: brueffer Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Jan 9 15:42:39 CET 2009 Responsible-Changed-Why: Oops, assign this to me as well. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=130324 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 17:53:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC521065675 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 17:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E958FC1C for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 17:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so11542646ewy.19 for ; Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.90.10 with SMTP id n10mr13195180ebb.173.1231523633605; Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.60.12 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:53:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2a7894eb0901090953r67bdeaf2te11bd5bc3c87d3f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 09:53:53 -0800 From: "Murray Stokely" To: "Doug Barton" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <49663DFE.4040305@gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Would it be useful/appropriate to remove news about betas and RCs?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:53:55 -0000 On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Doug Barton wrote: > This is sort of along the lines I was thinking, especially about the front > page, and I think that keeping all of the news on the news flash page is > also a good idea. > > I'd like to suggest however that in the RSS feed that they are not valuable. > If I'm looking at the RSS feed as my source of news about FreeBSD it's not > really relevant to me that there were N betas/RCs prior to the release, I > just want to see the news about the release. > > I'm not suggesting that the information about betas and RCs is not valuable, > I just think we need to differentiate between "news" and "history." I've never seen items purged like this from an RSS feed. The chronological nature of RSS makes the older stuff just sort of sink down out of view as newer stuff takes precedence in your feed reader. Removing some old items will just cause even older items to appear higher on the list which could also be irrelevant. Do you have an example RSS feed that does this kind of pruning in a good way? Wouldn't this confuse some feed readers? - Murray From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 21:15:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3AB1065675 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:15:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx22.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D237F8FC1F for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:15:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 2810 invoked by uid 399); 9 Jan 2009 21:15:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO lap.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 9 Jan 2009 21:15:53 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <4967BE87.7060901@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:15:51 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090102) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Murray Stokely References: <49663DFE.4040305@gmail.com> <2a7894eb0901090953r67bdeaf2te11bd5bc3c87d3f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2a7894eb0901090953r67bdeaf2te11bd5bc3c87d3f@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Re: Would it be useful/appropriate to remove news about betas and RCs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:15:54 -0000 Murray Stokely wrote: > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Doug Barton wrote: >> This is sort of along the lines I was thinking, especially about the front >> page, and I think that keeping all of the news on the news flash page is >> also a good idea. >> >> I'd like to suggest however that in the RSS feed that they are not valuable. >> If I'm looking at the RSS feed as my source of news about FreeBSD it's not >> really relevant to me that there were N betas/RCs prior to the release, I >> just want to see the news about the release. >> >> I'm not suggesting that the information about betas and RCs is not valuable, >> I just think we need to differentiate between "news" and "history." > > I've never seen items purged like this from an RSS feed. The > chronological nature of RSS makes the older stuff just sort of sink > down out of view as newer stuff takes precedence in your feed reader. True, but most of the other RSS feeds I subscribe to have more volume, which means the less relevant stuff goes away much faster than ours do. > Removing some old items will just cause even older items to appear > higher on the list which could also be irrelevant. I would argue that anything would be more relevant than beta/RC announcements after a release. :) > Do you have an example RSS feed that does this kind of pruning in a > good way? I don't, but I'm more interested in what's right for us. > Wouldn't this confuse some feed readers? This question is one of the main reasons that I didn't Just Do It. In any case, there does not seem to be any support for my proposal, so in the immortal words of Emily Litella, "Never mind." :) Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 13:13:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883891065674; Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:13:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE188FC13; Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:13:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0ADDTl5031495; Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:13:29 GMT (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0ADDTFg031491; Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:13:29 GMT (envelope-from trhodes) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:13:29 GMT Message-Id: <200901101313.n0ADDTFg031491@freefall.freebsd.org> To: p2nd8vp02@sneakemail.com, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org From: trhodes@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/119907: Ports compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:13:29 -0000 Synopsis: Ports compatibility State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Sat Jan 10 13:11:36 UTC 2009 State-Changed-Why: Close this PR - the current wording is fine as I noted in my follow up in August of 2008. Thanks! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->trhodes Responsible-Changed-By: trhodes Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Jan 10 13:11:36 UTC 2009 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to me. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=119907