From owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 11:06:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DAA106568C for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:06:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AC08FC16 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:06:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7HB6t4N075807 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:06:55 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7HB6tBG075803 for freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:06:55 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:06:55 GMT Message-Id: <200908171106.n7HB6tBG075803@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Internationalization Effort List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:06:56 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f conf/109367 i18n [locale] UTF8 encoded locales and problem collating ac f conf/91106 i18n [locale] date definitions in pl_PL locale are wrong 2 problems total. From owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 17 11:28:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD7C106568B; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gavin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DBC8FC41; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gavin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7HBS9An094373; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:28:09 GMT (envelope-from gavin@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gavin@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7HBS9eV094369; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:28:09 GMT (envelope-from gavin) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:28:09 GMT Message-Id: <200908171128.n7HBS9eV094369@freefall.freebsd.org> To: gavin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.org From: gavin@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: conf/137870: [locale] en_DK needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Internationalization Effort List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:28:10 -0000 Old Synopsis: Locale en_DK needed New Synopsis: [locale] en_DK needed Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-i18n Responsible-Changed-By: gavin Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Aug 17 11:14:32 UTC 2009 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to maintainer(s). To submitter: if you have already created copies of the requested files, are you able to share them? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=137870 From owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 11:00:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667D3106568E for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:00:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@opal.com) Received: from smtp.vzavenue.net (smtp.vzavenue.net [66.171.59.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20FE58FC3F for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:00:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 138.78.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net (HELO homobox.opal.com) ([66.171.78.138]) by smtp.vzavenue.net with ESMTP; 18 Aug 2009 06:31:38 -0400 X-REPUTATION: None X-REMOTE-IP: 66.171.78.138 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgMFAMUYikpCq06K/2dsb2JhbACBUtcXhBkFgio X-IronPort-AV: i="4.43,401,1246852800"; d="scan'208"; a="206243497:sNHT18985077" Received: from opal.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by homobox.opal.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7IAVVN7093912 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 06:31:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fbsd@opal.com) Received: from shibato.opal.com ([90.41.141.127] helo=shibato.opal.com) with IPv4:587 by opal.com; 18 Aug 2009 06:31:31 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:31:21 +0200 From: "J.R. Oldroyd" To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090818123121.0e99c37e@shibato.opal.com> In-Reply-To: <200908171128.n7HBS9eV094369@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200908171128.n7HBS9eV094369@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.2; amd64-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: conf/137870: [locale] en_DK needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Internationalization Effort List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:00:50 -0000 On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:28:09 GMT, gavin@freebsd.org wrote: > > Old Synopsis: Locale en_DK needed > New Synopsis: [locale] en_DK needed > > Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-i18n > Responsible-Changed-By: gavin > Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Aug 17 11:14:32 UTC 2009 > Responsible-Changed-Why: > Over to maintainer(s). To submitter: if you have already created copies of the > requested files, are you able to share them? > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=137870 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-i18n > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-i18n-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I think the locale name en_ISOdate or even en_UK.isodate and en_US.isodate or something along those lines would be more suitable. First, en_DK might one day be needed to describe how English is actually used in Denmark. Second, anyone looking for a locale description with English but ISO date/time info is unlikely to find it if it is hidden under a local country name. -jr From owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 18 14:50:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B49106568B for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:50:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C552C8FC51 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7IEo4kU013257 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:50:04 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7IEo4PL013256; Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:50:04 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:50:04 GMT Message-Id: <200908181450.n7IEo4PL013256@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.org From: "J.R. Oldroyd" Cc: Subject: Re: conf/137870: [locale] en_DK needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "J.R. Oldroyd" List-Id: FreeBSD Internationalization Effort List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:50:04 -0000 The following reply was made to PR conf/137870; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "J.R. Oldroyd" To: bug-followup@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: conf/137870: [locale] en_DK needed Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:16:40 +0200 On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:28:09 GMT, gavin@freebsd.org wrote: > > Old Synopsis: Locale en_DK needed > New Synopsis: [locale] en_DK needed > > Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-i18n > Responsible-Changed-By: gavin > Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Aug 17 11:14:32 UTC 2009 > Responsible-Changed-Why: > Over to maintainer(s). To submitter: if you have already created copies of the > requested files, are you able to share them? > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=137870 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-i18n > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-i18n-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I think the locale name en_ISOdate or even en_UK.isodate and en_US.isodate or something along those lines would be more suitable. First, en_DK might one day be needed to describe how English is actually used in Denmark. Second, anyone looking for a locale description with English but ISO date/time info is unlikely to find it if it is hidden under a local country name. -jr From owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 12:23:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4B51065691; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: from k7.mavetju.org (ppp113-58.static.internode.on.net [150.101.113.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6E18FC51; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:23:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by k7.mavetju.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3396E4511D; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:23:37 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:23:37 +1000 From: Edwin Groothuis To: freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.org, bug-followup@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090819122337.GA67980@mavetju.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Re: conf/137870: [locale] en_DK needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Internationalization Effort List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:23:38 -0000 > I think the locale name en_ISOdate or even en_UK.isodate and > en_US.isodate or something along those lines would be more suitable. The optional part behind the country is reserved for the font family. Latn or Cyrl etc. What you are more looking at is a unused language string (like "xx" to make it "xx_DK") which has the right definitions in it. I don't think that the right place for this non-standard thing is in the base system, a port would be a much cleaner solution. Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis Website: http://www.mavetju.org/ edwin@mavetju.org Weblog: http://www.mavetju.org/weblog/ From owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 12:30:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADC1106568D for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3468FC45 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:30:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7JCU380060626 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:30:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7JCU3aT060623; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:30:03 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:30:03 GMT Message-Id: <200908191230.n7JCU3aT060623@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.org From: Edwin Groothuis Cc: Subject: Re: conf/137870: [locale] en_DK needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Edwin Groothuis List-Id: FreeBSD Internationalization Effort List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:30:03 -0000 The following reply was made to PR conf/137870; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Edwin Groothuis To: freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.org, bug-followup@freebsd.org Cc: "J. R. Oldroyd" Subject: Re: conf/137870: [locale] en_DK needed Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:23:37 +1000 > I think the locale name en_ISOdate or even en_UK.isodate and > en_US.isodate or something along those lines would be more suitable. The optional part behind the country is reserved for the font family. Latn or Cyrl etc. What you are more looking at is a unused language string (like "xx" to make it "xx_DK") which has the right definitions in it. I don't think that the right place for this non-standard thing is in the base system, a port would be a much cleaner solution. Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis Website: http://www.mavetju.org/ edwin@mavetju.org Weblog: http://www.mavetju.org/weblog/ From owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 14:30:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0241E106568D; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:30:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@opal.com) Received: from smtp.vzavenue.net (smtp.vzavenue.net [66.171.59.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47BF8FC43; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 138.78.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net (HELO homobox.opal.com) ([66.171.78.138]) by smtp.vzavenue.net with ESMTP; 19 Aug 2009 10:30:38 -0400 X-REPUTATION: None X-REMOTE-IP: 66.171.78.138 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsgEAHuii0pCq06K/2dsb2JhbACBUtV3hBoF X-IronPort-AV: i="4.43,408,1246852800"; d="scan'208"; a="206293328:sNHT19303290" Received: from opal.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by homobox.opal.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7JEUVkb027817 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:30:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fbsd@opal.com) Received: from shibato.opal.com ([90.41.141.127] helo=shibato.opal.com) with IPv4:587 by opal.com; 19 Aug 2009 10:30:31 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:30:30 +0200 From: "J.R. Oldroyd" To: Edwin Groothuis Message-ID: <20090819163030.6e2bd6c3@shibato.opal.com> In-Reply-To: <20090819122337.GA67980@mavetju.org> References: <20090819122337.GA67980@mavetju.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.2; amd64-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: conf/137870: [locale] en_DK needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Internationalization Effort List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:30:40 -0000 On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:23:37 +1000, Edwin Groothuis wrote: > > > > I think the locale name en_ISOdate or even en_UK.isodate and > > en_US.isodate or something along those lines would be more suitable. > > The optional part behind the country is reserved for the font family. > Latn or Cyrl etc. > > What you are more looking at is a unused language string (like "xx" > to make it "xx_DK") which has the right definitions in it. > > I don't think that the right place for this non-standard thing is > in the base system, a port would be a much cleaner solution. > > Edwin > You are right about the part after the period being reserved, although it seems it's a character set rather than a font family. The format appears to be: xx_YY.charset xx = ISO639 2-letter language code YY = ISO3166 2-letter country code charset = UTF-8, ISO8859-1, CP1131, etc For years now I have used the name en_ISO.UTF-8 myself for exactly the purpose that the poster is requesting, without anything apparently breaking. While the string "ISO" is obviously not a 2-letter ISO3166 country code, it does not appear to break anything. I agree that this should be done as a port, rather than added to the base system. -jr From owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 14:40:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDFB10656A7 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DB28FC75 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7JEe4M5060116 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:40:04 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7JEe4XF060115; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:40:04 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:40:04 GMT Message-Id: <200908191440.n7JEe4XF060115@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.org From: "J.R. Oldroyd" Cc: Subject: Re: conf/137870: [locale] en_DK needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "J.R. Oldroyd" List-Id: FreeBSD Internationalization Effort List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:40:06 -0000 The following reply was made to PR conf/137870; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "J.R. Oldroyd" To: Edwin Groothuis Cc: freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.org, bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: conf/137870: [locale] en_DK needed Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:30:30 +0200 On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:23:37 +1000, Edwin Groothuis wrote: > > > > I think the locale name en_ISOdate or even en_UK.isodate and > > en_US.isodate or something along those lines would be more suitable. > > The optional part behind the country is reserved for the font family. > Latn or Cyrl etc. > > What you are more looking at is a unused language string (like "xx" > to make it "xx_DK") which has the right definitions in it. > > I don't think that the right place for this non-standard thing is > in the base system, a port would be a much cleaner solution. > > Edwin > You are right about the part after the period being reserved, although it seems it's a character set rather than a font family. The format appears to be: xx_YY.charset xx = ISO639 2-letter language code YY = ISO3166 2-letter country code charset = UTF-8, ISO8859-1, CP1131, etc For years now I have used the name en_ISO.UTF-8 myself for exactly the purpose that the poster is requesting, without anything apparently breaking. While the string "ISO" is obviously not a 2-letter ISO3166 country code, it does not appear to break anything. I agree that this should be done as a port, rather than added to the base system. -jr From owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 11:20:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E266106568D for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: from k7.mavetju.org (ppp113-58.static.internode.on.net [150.101.113.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615EC8FC66 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:20:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by k7.mavetju.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0536F45121; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:20:23 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:20:23 +1000 From: Edwin Groothuis To: freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20090820112022.GA72150@mavetju.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Re: conf/137870: [locale] en_DK needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Internationalization Effort List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:20:24 -0000 > You are right about the part after the period being reserved, although > it seems it's a character set rather than a font family. > > The format appears to be: RFC4646. You are right, it's not a font family but a Language Tag. Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis Website: http://www.mavetju.org/ edwin@mavetju.org Weblog: http://www.mavetju.org/weblog/ From owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 20 14:25:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA99A106564A for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:25:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: from k7.mavetju.org (ppp113-58.static.internode.on.net [150.101.113.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528D08FC60 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by k7.mavetju.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BAF2045116; Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:25:06 +1000 (EST) X-Original-To: edwin@localhost Delivered-To: edwin@localhost.mavetju.org Received: from k7.mavetju.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by k7.mavetju.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44DF4511D for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:15:01 +1000 (EST) Received: from pop.barnet.com.au [202.83.178.99] by k7.mavetju.org with POP3 (fetchmail-6.3.9) for (single-drop); Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:15:01 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail4out.barnet.com.au (mail4out.barnet.com.au [202.83.178.123]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.barnet.com.au", Issuer "Equifax Secure Global eBusiness CA-1" (verified OK)) by mail4dbmail.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1B3737BDDD for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:12:52 +1000 (EST) Received: by mail4out.barnet.com.au (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A780437BC8C; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:12:52 +1000 (EST) X-Viruscan-Id: <4A8D4BD40000E409519E81@BarNet> Received: from smtp.vzavenue.net (smtp.vzavenue.net [66.171.59.140]) by mail4.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1260422038 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:12:48 +1000 (EST) Received: from unknown (HELO homobox.opal.com) ([66.171.78.138]) by smtp.vzavenue.net with ESMTP; 20 Aug 2009 09:11:45 -0400 X-REPUTATION: None X-REMOTE-IP: 66.171.78.138 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAOvljEpCq06K/2dsb2JhbADWWIQYBQ X-IronPort-AV: i="4.43,414,1246852800"; d="scan'208"; a="206352613:sNHT18892962" Received: from opal.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by homobox.opal.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7KDB1DN052913 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:11:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fbsd@opal.com) Received: from shibato.opal.com ([90.41.14.127] helo=shibato.opal.com) with IPv4:587 by opal.com; 20 Aug 2009 09:11:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:11:00 +0200 From: "J.R. Oldroyd" To: Edwin Groothuis Message-ID: <20090820151100.4e537255@shibato.opal.com> In-Reply-To: <20090820112022.GA72150@mavetju.org> References: <20090820112022.GA72150@mavetju.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.2; amd64-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-From: edwin@mavetju.org Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:25:06 +1000 Resent-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Resent-Message-Id: <20090820142506.BAF2045116@k7.mavetju.org> Cc: Subject: Re: conf/137870: [locale] en_DK needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Internationalization Effort List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:25:08 -0000 On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:20:23 +1000, Edwin Groothuis wrote: > > RFC4646. > Thanks for finding RFC4646. I would also refer to this document: http://www.openi18n.org/docs/text/LocNameGuide-V10.txt The format of locale names is defined there. In short: LANGUAGE_TERRITORY.CODESET@MODIFIERS Based on this, and since we're modifying LC_TIME, I would now propose the base name for the proposed modification be: en@ISOtime The port should define modifiers for all base system "en_" territories: en_AU@ISOtime en_CA@ISOtime en_GB@ISOtime en_IE@ISOtime en_NZ@ISOtime en_US@ISOtime and also the various base system codesets: en_AU.ISO8859-1@ISOtime en_AU.ISO8859-15@ISOtime en_AU.US-ASCII@ISOtime en_AU.UTF-8@ISOtime etc -jr