From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 00:38:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D351065670 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 00:38:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A898FC1D for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 00:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so2106787qyk.3 for ; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:38:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bI7a0+XXG0g9KAXbjRUmP04n6HvEXaLv6WWgeVdb8BY=; b=we70ZNsxLNbEKso6sKb7in/rNBZPLtG6LhSIY2DYxwsiDLToGuPiawhpDmxNt9UPyj Js74PDznlQWsxMw3sjHMjr9vfSwyJ3YiGktjUepsYys+ASV0N5kahdIZJcijBXJ6bVjU Ax/6mEMV5uB41ZAOBe7Fhtp9AHK2Hy82LDmKE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=P4JesIfK9/xCUQSMDCZZfi8GGiEj709YZ+b7my7WX5byP3ALZltmEyXyy5S8/jB1Q5 g1HrfCfZ78K/lgvONRpQhR8R3yGfM2nmT8P72KC1f/eKl0lV4YyanJWuttITuft0VRh/ 3a4uba9OxUMGVjy2lD17bRNEUn4QuAJ258o24= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.95.69 with SMTP id c5mr466709qcn.47.1249778319917; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:38:39 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640908081738m31ac75a5pf9f6c4822e427dae@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Setting up LAN: no route to host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:38:40 -0000 I'm trying to set up a LAN that is isolated from the internet, and I don't know what to put in /etc/rc.conf for certain variables. I'm running FreeBSD 7.1 with the latest patches. So far my /etc/rc.conf file has the following lines: defaultrouter="192.168.0.1" # I would like to leave this blank, but I put something here anyways. hostname="speedy.i" ifconfig_fxp0="inet 192.168.0.254 network 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_fxp0="up" My /etc/hosts includes this line: 192.168.0.254 speedy.i speedy Now when I am logged in to this machine and I "ping 192.168.0.254", I get: ping: sendto: No route to host I'm just trying to set up a LAN between a few computers, and actually, I don't know what to put in the "defaultrouter" field in /etc/rc.conf. I've tried leaving it blank, but that didn't help. By the way I will probably be having more questions about configuring a home router, so please bear with me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 01:08:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C731065670 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F758FC1A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:08:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608477E818; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:08:54 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:08:53 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <560f92640908081738m31ac75a5pf9f6c4822e427dae@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640908081738m31ac75a5pf9f6c4822e427dae@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908081708.53442.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Nerius Landys Subject: Re: Setting up LAN: no route to host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:08:55 -0000 On Saturday 08 August 2009 16:38:39 Nerius Landys wrote: > I'm trying to set up a LAN that is isolated from the internet, and I > don't know what to put in /etc/rc.conf for certain variables. I'm > running FreeBSD 7.1 with the latest patches. > > So far my /etc/rc.conf file has the following lines: > > defaultrouter="192.168.0.1" # I would like to leave this blank, but I > put something here anyways. > hostname="speedy.i" > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 192.168.0.254 network 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_fxp0="up" First: You override the first line with the second line. So in the end, all you accomplish is mark the interface up. Second: network in the first line should be netmask You should delete the second line (an interface will be marked up if an IP address is assigned to it) and fix the netmask keyword. You may want to read up on sh(1) how it treats variables. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 01:10:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06E31065672 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:10:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63D18FC21 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:10:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n791AeEv008265; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:10:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id D73DEDABEE; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:10:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wadpexf0.waddell.com (wadpexf0.waddell.com [192.168.204.24]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A2ADABE7; 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Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:03:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200908081708.53442.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <560f92640908081738m31ac75a5pf9f6c4822e427dae@mail.gmail.com> <200908081708.53442.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:03:44 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640908081903l3f1342adj8e785ab03f238dc2@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Mel Flynn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting up LAN: no route to host X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 02:03:45 -0000 I mistyped "netmask" as "network" in my email. But removing that second line like you said fixes the problem. Thanks. > You should delete the second line (an interface will be marked up if an IP > address is assigned to it) and fix the netmask keyword. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 02:32:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E9E1065673 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 02:32:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2988FC19 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 02:32:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so2129113qyk.3 for ; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:32:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PW8knu5Ndg4ypH+cpS5hvt1ehWmB8B6cf52q8Wcl/oQ=; b=bri28ZW5WwehOwSfkHhYZBgKKcW277mv4YsZ+onE1o1Ig3TA4we+UYwhK205Thmi7n tNv+UhjmGwfXfaLcTBcMhKYD3ulE63RGT7399bHi6punuoVUBDiYlJW+GdZX12MJqwC1 B/LZw3Vgh+4AE1PMzVxLDjUyT5tnfCBvpZ4oU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=L/Vm02p5T9a5NefSWZ/NDQ8+0Xa/fNx0f59lv3CF6Ys9GdRCph2reysp3sxBaQ95Sg MWWa5Nw5vT72uCocXj8b2FiK8ku4QUHzULEzcsRGGGkWMWgDjK5wCAMMq1pG2wn6Uhp0 aCkPx2Mble9kUM1DWRsAzQ/hRNIwKEMAyM+BQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.99.212 with SMTP id v20mr1030302qcn.28.1249785150301; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:32:30 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640908081932s69ae225mb3c55fef47a4924b@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Building home router: 192.168.0.x to access internet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 02:32:31 -0000 I'm setting up my FreeBSD computer (which has multiple NICs) to act as a home router (and DNS server and a few other things, but that's not important for this email). I have done this before, but then my hard drive broke and I have to do this all again. So, I have a few questions just to confirm that my approach to this problem is going to be the optimal one that I can take. First, my choise of internal network IP addresses is 192.168.0.x. My router machine's IP address will be 192.168.0.254 (that's the interface facing the internal network). The IP addresses of the machines behind the router will start at 192.168.0.2 and go up. I'm wondering if this choice of IP addresses is conventional or good. Is this numbering scheme decent? This is the way I had it set up earlier. I've seen a lot of networks using 192.168.1.x and the router would be 192.168.1.1. So now to the problem of being able to connect from a 192.168.0.x machine to an outside IP address. The way I did this before was by adding 'gateway_enable="YES"' to /etc/rc.conf and then using the OpenBSD packet filter (pf) to do a NAT thing. I'm wondering if this, in your opinion, is the preferred way to do things in order to set up an internal network which can access the outside internet directly. If so, can someone give me a really minimal yet secure packet filter rule set that would do the job? (I'm prepared to read the pf docs, which will take me a few hours.) The router will connect to the outside via DHCP, and from what I remember I had to add a rule to not drop packets that were DHCP-related. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 03:29:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D376106564A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6C88FC08 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29C77E818; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:29:18 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 19:29:16 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <560f92640908081932s69ae225mb3c55fef47a4924b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640908081932s69ae225mb3c55fef47a4924b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908081929.17614.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Nerius Landys Subject: Re: Building home router: 192.168.0.x to access internet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:29:20 -0000 On Saturday 08 August 2009 18:32:30 Nerius Landys wrote: > First, my choise of internal network IP addresses is 192.168.0.x. My > router machine's IP address will be 192.168.0.254 (that's the > interface facing the internal network). The IP addresses of the > machines behind the router will start at 192.168.0.2 and go up. I'm > wondering if this choice of IP addresses is conventional or good. Is > this numbering scheme decent? Convention is to use the lowest host IP address for the router and the highest for broadcast. Yet, it is only convention. There's nothing stopping you from using other address, as long as your client machines know this. > If so, can someone give me a really minimal yet secure packet filter > rule set that would do the job? (I'm prepared to read the pf docs, > which will take me a few hours.) The router will connect to the > outside via DHCP, and from what I remember I had to add a rule to not > drop packets that were DHCP-related. There's actually a nice example in the PF FAQ that covers some basics: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/tagging.html There used to be a sample pf.conf, but I see that got nuked, yet there still are examples in /usr/share/examples/pf/. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 03:34:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A2E106566C for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D748FC19 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n793YErs005569 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:34:14 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n793YEqj005568; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:34:14 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 8EE8EB7F0; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:32:32 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <3F47B447-F165-40CA-8172-1B59594BFBCD@socket.net> (message from Jay Hall on Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:31:48 -0500) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20090809033232.8EE8EB7F0@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:32:32 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: GNU Tar and -T option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:34:16 -0000 >> On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:31:48 -0500, >> Jay Hall said: J> Has anyone had any luck using the -T option with GNU tar 1.16.1? I am J> using the following command line. J> /usr/local/gtar/bin/tar -c -T filelist -f - | dd of=/dev/nsa1 obs=128k I had no problems using that command line with GNU tar versions 1.14 and 1.22. I'd grab the source and upgrade if I were you: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/tar/tar-1.22.tar.gz -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company The glue on Israeli postage is certified kosher. --odd but true From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 03:34:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45ECE106564A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EB98FC1D for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n793YECU005561 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:34:14 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n793YEWg005560; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:34:14 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 8A7CBB7F0; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:29:13 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20090808133825.GA74006@slackbox.xs4all.nl> (message from Roland Smith on Sat, 8 Aug 2009 15:38:25 +0200) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20090809032913.8A7CBB7F0@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:29:13 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: Fwd: Boot failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:34:16 -0000 >> On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 15:38:25 +0200, Roland Smith said: R> At $WORK the Dell computers (both desktops and servers AFAIK) that we R> use are ditched at the first problem after the warranty runs out which R> is after three years, I believe. Interesting. I've used a Dell GX260 for my workstation since 2003, and I've had no hardware problems running two versions of FreeBSD, one version of OpenBSD and one version of Solaris-10. Two other 260s have been file-servers since 2004. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company If caught with pants down, redefine pants. --pissed-off KDE user From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 04:38:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20C4106564A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:38:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AFB68FC08 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 04:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B2D7E818; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:38:52 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:38:50 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <2097B988-0F1B-4F60-812D-71F6AB2C17CA@charter.net> <200908080836.09084.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908082038.51127.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Charles Howse Subject: Re: mod_security 2.5.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 04:38:54 -0000 On Saturday 08 August 2009 19:38:42 Charles Howse wrote: > On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Mel Flynn wrote: > > On Saturday 08 August 2009 08:00:47 Charles Howse wrote: > >> Just wondering if anyone has tried updating from mod_security 2.5.9 > >> to > >> 2.5.9_1 via portupgrade. > >> It fails with a "linker error" for me. > > > > And can we see the actual linker error? > > Thought I had included enough in my original post. > Here's the mod_security part of 'portupgrade -a' > > ... > [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 51 > packages found (-0 +1) . done] > ---> Upgrading 'mod_security-2.5.9' to 'mod_security-2.5.9_1' (www/ > mod_security) > ---> Building '/usr/ports/www/mod_security' ... > checking for libapr config script... /usr/local/bin/apr-1-config > configure: using ' -lcrypt -pthread' for apr Library ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > /usr/local/share/apr/build-1/libtool --silent --mode=link cc -o > mod_security2.la -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib - > L/usr/local/lib -lpcre -lxml2 -lz -liconv -lm -rpath /usr/local/ > libexec/apache22 -module -avoid-version msc_release.lo msc_lua.lo > acmp.lo msc_geo.lo pdf_protect.lo msc_reqbody.lo persist_dbm.lo > msc_pcre.lo msc_util.lo msc_parsers.lo modsecurity.lo msc_multipart.lo > msc_xml.lo msc_logging.lo re_variables.lo re_tfns.lo re_actions.lo > re_operators.lo re.lo apache2_util.lo apache2_io.lo apache2_config.lo > mod_security2.lo > # XXX there is "mlogc-static" target in the Makefile, too > cd /usr/ports/www/mod_security/work/modsecurity-apache_2.5.9/apache2 > && /usr/bin/env SHELL=/bin/sh NO_LINT=YES PREFIX=/usr/local > LOCALBASE=/usr/local X11BASE=/usr/local MOTIFLIB="-L/usr/local/lib - > lXm -lXp" LIBDIR="/usr/lib" CC="cc" CFLAGS="-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing - > pipe" CXX="c++" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe" MANPREFIX="/ > usr/local" BSD_INSTALL_PROGRAM="install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555" > BSD_INSTALL_SCRIPT="install -o root -g wheel -m 555" > BSD_INSTALL_DATA="install -o root -g wheel -m 444" > BSD_INSTALL_MAN="install -o root -g wheel -m 444" make -f Makefile > mlogc > > Building dynamically linked mlogc... > /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_yield' > /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to > `pthread_attr_destroy' > /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_create' > /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_attr_init' > /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_exit' > /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_equal' > /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_detach' > /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to > `pthread_attr_setstacksize' > /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to > `pthread_attr_getdetachstate' > /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to > `pthread_attr_setguardsize' > /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to > `pthread_attr_setdetachstate' > /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_join' > /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to > `pthread_cond_timedwait' > *** Error code 1 Apparently -pthread isn't passed here. I've tried to reproduce this, but I can't. Could you show the output of: make -C /usr/ports/www/mod_security actual-package-depends Also the contents of /var/db/ports/apr/options. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 05:09:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0436106564A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from web65512.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65512.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46BA18FC19 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 05:09:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9100 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Aug 2009 05:09:30 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1249794570; bh=5DUDyD0667fK92nKV3rzP/iK/saTGtGwPWZnlAnWcfY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fbrF8pPEOHKGSrYYZWbJjFMIcFlX4sZ7/1fR8tMWLv2QNKmi64mWraENpLG4JO3Wb/rwaA8qCikUVAL0L6SOereHZnZ0xnCpg/WO+A75kzVSR57d/XQth+AtlIz+mT7PtPmVW8p9VPO2ln5Vi6Eh4CQ8IeJfDsot1+/ATN7EKKQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=BBNx/P9KCDLS/+Sd6jQU6A1XWM8yL6q9vL7fgYS0R0wqMTcivCCEOT3Rqq2JLDRy1lnK9fjOz2l639lWL9ruAHYSArh1atF6jmrGLtbUpaWdgqbwegyO++F0oKT6J34csAlP29FVcG/gn2MhqgIQv6rVG2/96HtIpe2v0LOP4gA=; Message-ID: <496205.8560.qm@web65512.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: YHbgcCcVM1m7baTHpYB5dFsfDx4kclU3ap6Ba5J1IrX6SVvl_W9WsFSF0hctbnO0ztq463kJw34slxQ2CWjeg9ZjoyhHh.KsXHOF_HgeUXPvTuLucNpWb4eYnfTAO1eLPRAd3BQfVedgpz.OEMHbTHBlE72ws9XkvuNT0Oppikywv5wsNPPQVIbluXdHJdRF0xwZhsNvmNzEpQYCwswch0KKUtVfx5.DJ7j1fBXcbJGHPHK9u64HIee5nS4gHrm8gm61AL9K42Yu7aj4BV7BcWdbd_7zGltv18hf9R8M_pjmNOoW0Qxr8n5y1za.wPHMRPd6rqd_V4hS Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65512.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 22:09:30 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:09:30 -0700 (PDT) From: James Phillips To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090808233414.171401065686@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 05:09:31 -0000 =0A=0A--- On Sat, 8/8/09, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote:=0A=0A=0A> =0A> Message: 11=0A> Date: Sa= t, 8 Aug 2009 10:46:00 -0600=0A> From: Chad Perrin =0A= > Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was:=0A> > upgrade 7.2= =0A=0A> =0A> On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 02:56:41PM -0700, James Phillips=0A> w= rote:=0A> > =0A=0A> > =0A> > Following the FreeBSD Handbook, I got stuck on= trying=0A> to get the=0A> > printer to work. The handbook was basicly inst= ructing=0A> me to write my=0A> > own print driver! I checked the HP website= : they will=0A> release the=0A> > details of the PCL language (version 4 or= so) for a=0A> price. I finally=0A> > got it working by installing the Apsf= iler package in=0A> the ports=0A> > collection (no, did not send the post-c= ard yet; the=0A> print server is not=0A> > functional yet.)=0A> > =0A=0A> =0A> I'm really not sure how to answer this question, I'm=0A> afraid.= =A0 I don't=0A> think it's a stupid question, and I think I can understand= =0A> what you mean=0A> about your problems with getting use out of the=0A> = documentation, but I=0A> haven't had the same problems so I don't know of a= ny quick=0A> fixes to offer=0A> in how to get around these problems.=A0 For= instance,=0A> when I installed CUPS=0A> on a couple of computers here for = the first time since I=0A> started=0A> installing FreeBSD them, it all seem= ed very straightforward=0A> and I didn't=0A> see anything that could even t= hrough hyperbole be described=0A> as involving=0A> writing my own printer d= river.=A0 I basically just set=0A> up configuration for=0A> CUPS, and it wo= rked -- much more easily than it ever did=0A> with Debian (my=0A> OS of cho= ice before I migrated stuff to FreeBSD).=0A> =0A=0AOkay, after reading this= , I used the "WayBack Machine" to review the printing section of the April = 17, 2006 version of the Handbook.=0A=0AI was not able to find anything that= is writing a print-driver per-se.=0AIn the "Advanced" section numerous she= ll scripts are described (some of which use printer commands directly), but= they tend to use filters from the ports collection:=0Ahttp://web.archive.o= rg/web/20060417220024/www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/pr= inting-advanced.html=0A=0AThere is a section in the "Simple" section that e= xplicitly says PS !=3D PCL.=0APart of the problem may be I did not have doc= umentation for my printer, so did not know how to put it in postscript mode= .=0A=0AI really did feel I needed the PCL 4 documentation at one point. 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Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 06:23:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721A2106566B for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:23:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DAC18FC08 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 06:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so2166901qyk.3 for ; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 23:23:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NhZChNV63ZAOzjYLsxL5qlJV7SH8AIepPmH5K+b/FV4=; b=fXprjPLZIPEdgrKOU4zrUCP5wDyE6n5GK6R72/lbK10TwBUXfXKl9w/odVxHcxKFTV 0VsiZFJQNaoZZCUy5LNXkYJSjMU3PKkJd94LgrVrVXRsZuj/wg5UF/EPAk7F0Qfn7Oh8 GfAvsh771ULy8X4y7Ud/qNpa1e/qF7Tb6NczA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=vS5DEg2V7oNka4uLw83gtPV3RriTeRWeQpG8TkkLU7Nb/6wngTEUnV5NeJ/UF9BJQr Ptgc/Fbp4HED879b0DzMcxMfzwz8S9o7BF1SEZCIwCY646wHwhIavzbDMWezYdAC+0Ek nl6UpUNEWRhmPbN3SHoYfp7PSSCLTWk6by7eg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.99.212 with SMTP id v20mr1054789qcn.28.1249799026621; Sat, 08 Aug 2009 23:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:23:46 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640908082323j7a243fd0r22af5b947442745d@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Network bridge, but assigned IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 06:23:47 -0000 I am creating a simple network bridge (as described in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-bridging.html) which consists of 5 network interface cards. Function-wise, it's basically acting as a switch. However, I want to assign an IP address to the machine with the 5 NICs. So far without the bridge everything is working perfectly, and my /etc/rc.conf looks like this: gateway_enable="YES" hostname="speedy.i" ifconfig_fxp4="DHCP" ifconfig_em0="inet 192.168.0.254 netmask 255.255.255.0" And I have a NAT (using pf) to allow the 192.168.0.x hosts to directly reach the outside internet. fxp4 is the external network card. My other network cards that I want to make part of the internal network (acting as a switch) are fxp0 through fxp3. So I'm not sure what to do with my rc.conf. In the handbook it says to add these lines: cloned_interfaces="bridge0" ifconfig_bridge0="addm em0 addm fxp0 addm fxp1 addm fxp2 addm fxp3 up" ifconfig_fxp0="up" ifconfig_fxp1="up" ifconfig_fxp2="up" ifconfig_fxp3="up" ifconfig_em0="up" How should I intermingle these lines with my existing rc.conf, and/or which lines should I remove? I want em0, fxp0, fxp1, fxp2, and fxp3 to be a bridge and be assigned the IP address 192.168.0.254. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 07:56:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F114106566B for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:56:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5CF8FC23 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n797upcc067587; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:56:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B2740BAA6; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:56:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:56:51 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Karl Vogel Message-ID: <20090809075651.GA26200@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20090808133825.GA74006@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20090809032913.8A7CBB7F0@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090809032913.8A7CBB7F0@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Boot failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 07:56:54 -0000 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 11:29:13PM -0400, Karl Vogel wrote: > >> On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 15:38:25 +0200, Roland Smith sai= d: >=20 > R> At $WORK the Dell computers (both desktops and servers AFAIK) that we > R> use are ditched at the first problem after the warranty runs out which > R> is after three years, I believe. >=20 > Interesting. I've used a Dell GX260 for my workstation since 2003, > and I've had no hardware problems running two versions of FreeBSD, > one version of OpenBSD and one version of Solaris-10. Two other 260s > have been file-servers since 2004. The hardware was retired (recently a lot of GX260s) because repairs and downtime are expensive in man-hours. At $WORK there is a group of volunteers who check out and rebuild these retired machines, so they can be donated to schools et cetera. I agree that most of those machines will last several ye= ars longer. The GX260s we had only came with 128 MB RAM standard, which is a very tight= to run XP with MS office at a reasonable speed. And they came with small harddisks, because most of our storage is on the network. With added RAM an= d a bigger harddisk it is perfectly usable. But I agree they would probably even perform better with FreeBSD or Linux on it. For myself I tend not to buy the latest and greatest hardware. It takes time for support for new hardware to materialize, and the newest fastest hardware comes with notably reduced value for money. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkp+gUMACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUlJwCfX2kzmYd9u9IVNNHBRKB7m6rV cVIAnjdmtDijSyEErvL1PBFcy6dMh3pm =aJKA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 08:01:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D42C1065672 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:01:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from comp.john@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE518FC1E for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so1523481bwz.43 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:01:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UbLIuXE+J196GDqRKU/Cs5pBPhyZdD67A5TrN2iYnzo=; b=Th+k1cxRHgHBoli3rZVLm43BOvGm0f5joydii6xhudAs2lGh3wbPNBGloF6Pdlwcz+ j/jD//ywCOPQnccOh125CpUc4r0C/umlr2vo14TQHGdgARYHKnmTV+DfcPfSoVGpvvoW CDoVXcEN+pVl93bnSz7Fs83S4MszyPNHCQbU8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=GoYDmK2063ZEagFLTjnzaC2y0eSoOBbG+pAedgxRydcjra00CA6JEjccLdh8Oq+Cyg LDTNqF9g7c239eLNPs1a+fjzdfNt78Pq20qXZ/ydpZqhm/Vp7F7w01MHTq41lKlTlN2T 1QymI6apm7NtA9is5Q3um1SPc/V1o0079BKqc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.108.210 with SMTP id g18mr703266fap.6.1249803557244; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:39:17 +0100 Message-ID: From: "John ." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: a (hopefully) simple newbie zfs query regarding available space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:01:49 -0000 Hello list I followed instructions for ZFS on http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSQuickStartGuide, substituting ad6 and ad10 (two new SATA3 1TB disks) for da0 da1 and da2 in the instructions. I was surprised to see only 993GB in /tank/. Is this expected, or is it user error? Also, these disks are completely unformatted. I expected to do a newfs or something similar, and for it to take a bit of time! This is on a running 7.2-STABLE amd64 system. It is only these two disks that I want as ZFS, the rest are UFS2 cheers -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 08:03:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C48010656A3 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:03:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from comp.john@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C038FC16 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:03:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so2610305fxm.36 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:03:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XFNwJiAxbFspT5Ra4g+q6K6drfvvP0Folqqet4r/a+U=; b=g1kBgc/C3sZl/SuA1ZJPSGrd+udHnTyKUhywl9wQ9csN/mBy+GxmwZWwiLR9dtI/Zo YBSO8mZEUmrbZ9RUeB7V/H99BAwZYB9Y6MmrkawRnxeupfaRgD8Z2+maAJamTbIFyOvF 8nztZvsDIo9GvIsXtjJTGnE66rJv+54l2K+0o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=H2PeUrIRw0rf5zpLqAHCe1UBXiP84hB+S56P686v3xM6DJWSRC9N9Cf6iNjOO6tgth VKkdxL+yoThwD5pDdFcJ7Pq4ywu5qMzX+05sbgrkc7NSCYXxTLR3As88ZQ1ZA2zOor+8 uhyt2mDNmTY62PA8vRgV42mhV3/hlRqyO7YO0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.111.71 with SMTP id r7mr611527fap.103.1249805009760; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:03:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:03:29 +0100 Message-ID: From: "John ." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: a (hopefully) simple newbie zfs query regarding available space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:03:31 -0000 2009/8/9 John . : > Hello list > > I followed instructions for ZFS on > http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSQuickStartGuide, substituting ad6 and ad10 > (two new SATA3 1TB disks) for da0 da1 and da2 in the instructions. I > was surprised to see only 993GB in /tank/. Is this expected, or is it > user error? Also, these disks are completely unformatted. I expected > to do a newfs or something similar, and for it to take a bit of time! > > This is on a running 7.2-STABLE amd64 system. It is only these two > disks that I want as ZFS, the rest are UFS2 > > cheers > -- > John > I think I might have answered my own questionj - seems we need 3 or more disks for raidz - (n-p)*x gives 1TB usable. reliability isn't that important, and they are new disks. I suppose ccd would be better in this scenario? -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 08:39:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6AF1065674 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7A58FC15 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8B42B1C1A67; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:39:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A7E8B2A.30001@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:39:06 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nerius Landys References: <560f92640908081932s69ae225mb3c55fef47a4924b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640908081932s69ae225mb3c55fef47a4924b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Building home router: 192.168.0.x to access internet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:39:09 -0000 Nerius Landys wrote: > First, my choise of internal network IP addresses is 192.168.0.x. My > router machine's IP address will be 192.168.0.254 (that's the > interface facing the internal network). The IP addresses of the > machines behind the router will start at 192.168.0.2 and go up. I'm > wondering if this choice of IP addresses is conventional or good. Is > this numbering scheme decent? This is the way I had it set up > earlier. I've seen a lot of networks using 192.168.1.x and the router > would be 192.168.1.1. Whichever works. I don't think there is reason to speculate in "best practices" as which gets to be number 1, however you may consider dividing the address space into ranges for different uses. You may like to group servers in a particular range and clients in another so that you can create firewall rules accordingly. My network is 172.16/23. The range 172.16.0/24 I use for statically configured nodes, servers, access points etc. The 172.16.1/24 I use for dynamically configured nodes, laptops. The reason is that I'm using dynamic dns on my LAN. The reverse map zones cannot be created for classless networks, you have to define reverse zone for a /16 or /24 network. So to ensure that my static servers reverse map cannot be modified I have split my range such that dynamic and static addresses can be separated. For my static range, I have divided it into two, 172.16.0.0/25 and 172.16.0.128/25, the first for production servers, the later for testing and development. This is just a convention I have established, I thought it might be a good idea, but it is not configured in any way. For my dynamic range, in my dhcpd configuration I have created two ranges, 172.16.1.0/25 and 172.16.1.128/25. The first I assign to known hosts, that is hosts I have registered the MAC address of and know the owner. I haven't statically assigned a particular ip to a particular MAC, I just created a host entry in the dhcpd.conf with the MAC. The later range I use for unknown hosts, so when somebody connects they are easy to identify as foreign. This also permits creating special rules in my firewall so that strangers do not get the same unlimited access as friends. Of course, this is very crude as anyone can just reconfigure their address to get unlimited access, but > So now to the problem of being able to connect from a 192.168.0.x > machine to an outside IP address. The way I did this before was by > adding 'gateway_enable="YES"' to /etc/rc.conf and then using the > OpenBSD packet filter (pf) to do a NAT thing. I'm wondering if this, > in your opinion, is the preferred way to do things in order to set up > an internal network which can access the outside internet directly. Yes, that's a great idea. > If so, can someone give me a really minimal yet secure packet filter > rule set that would do the job? (I'm prepared to read the pf docs, > which will take me a few hours.) The router will connect to the > outside via DHCP, and from what I remember I had to add a rule to not > drop packets that were DHCP-related. See the packet filter documentation, IIRC they have also sample filters for common setups such as yours. BR, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 08:43:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E25106564A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:43:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EFC8FC1A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so2621602fxm.36 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:43:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=k+8mVZHD+F5k8k49l2zdnLsUZ+qfHca3nZ4dK8lVBjI=; b=HyGZM/nFuuFHhNAAV1cw+aOnmOk1MCFvlW4Z+DR1gLFUyGhyDB4kofXvieckhFbqK9 ARUg83gf61ux8JSt8ofYVQsyVSyYu0GpB30Um5rIzXRTewQ00lavByhzWzDLwb2Yf8ZK qbfS2GvD4Vn6pef26Js3r8GAQJsNJoQGf5LW4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=JfLHWJgnV3/0Igd4WASu/F4gsL0D1Kh1WEz+xs4V0OQJMTH3JbVQ59x0xrG3741nlq DAfg1h33QVUm00jbxnC5nEenAU3TdkTD+8ZFco5PoESLKtyTl3S/BH0+ViCAx6UTOC4T w9mgcCedUKo1TNr3qfQHf1Ohk324lOX/TNY7U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.191.4 with SMTP id t4mr1307593mup.133.1249807380668; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:43:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:43:00 +0100 Message-ID: From: chris scott To: "John ." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a (hopefully) simple newbie zfs query regarding available space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:43:02 -0000 2009/8/9 John . > Hello list > > I followed instructions for ZFS on > http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSQuickStartGuide, substituting ad6 and ad10 > (two new SATA3 1TB disks) for da0 da1 and da2 in the instructions. I > was surprised to see only 993GB in /tank/. Is this expected, or is it > user error? Also, these disks are completely unformatted. I expected > to do a newfs or something similar, and for it to take a bit of time! > > This is on a running 7.2-STABLE amd64 system. It is only these two > disks that I want as ZFS, the rest are UFS2 > > cheers > -- > John > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > not a zfs thing is happens with all os and file systems. Basically HD manufacturers quote their capacities in base 10 ie 1 TB = 1000000000 bytes. File systems are calculated in binary therefore the calculation they use is 1024 x 1024 x 1024 = 1099511627776. Slightly more as you can see. Therefore 1 GB is os terms is 1073741824 therefore hd capacity in GB is 1000000000000/1073741824 = 931.322575 The extra you see is it due to HD manufactures slightly over capacity the drives From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 08:47:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4252A106566B for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99E88FC08 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n798ksbt049856; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:46:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n798ksbt049856 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1249807615; bh=eX0QL5UDFRS29AnGb9ohV4Iim/dh5TQAWvSwpY4iSX8=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A7E8CF8.1080109@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2009=20Aug=202009=2009:46:48=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.22=20(X11/20090724)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Nerius=20Landys=20|CC:=20FreeB SD=20Mailing=20List=20|Subject:=20R e:=20Network=20bridge,=20but=20assigned=20IP=20address|References: =20<560f92640908082323j7a243fd0r22af5b947442745d@mail.gmail.com>|I n-Reply-To:=20<560f92640908082323j7a243fd0r22af5b947442745d@mail.g mail.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/s igned=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/ pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig2F3C1FE9F79F 48AE43BF1263"; b=NJFbcYXceRX3PAandv4ANDrw0LN+HDUJJew5Yc0galUfY9Igtme4WqfRxIODEI4vu ByENgPhB6svckQS1t/cUCbJ3qrfoneQDspnmHZxuKvqNmyyul8uVx1cJryillGEVne TFZSwk1bGFuskqjDonJCqBRcvxyxGttpfeTRpdTY= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4A7E8CF8.1080109@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 09:46:48 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nerius Landys References: <560f92640908082323j7a243fd0r22af5b947442745d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640908082323j7a243fd0r22af5b947442745d@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2F3C1FE9F79F48AE43BF1263" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Network bridge, but assigned IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:47:01 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig2F3C1FE9F79F48AE43BF1263 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nerius Landys wrote: > I am creating a simple network bridge (as described in > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-bridg= ing.html) > which consists of 5 network interface cards. Function-wise, it's > basically acting as a switch. However, I want to assign an IP address > to the machine with the 5 NICs. >=20 > So far without the bridge everything is working perfectly, and my > /etc/rc.conf looks like this: >=20 > gateway_enable=3D"YES" > hostname=3D"speedy.i" > ifconfig_fxp4=3D"DHCP" > ifconfig_em0=3D"inet 192.168.0.254 netmask 255.255.255.0" You should remove this ifconfig_em0 setting ... =20 > And I have a NAT (using pf) to allow the 192.168.0.x hosts to directly > reach the outside internet. fxp4 is the external network card. My > other network cards that I want to make part of the internal network > (acting as a switch) are fxp0 through fxp3. So I'm not sure what to > do with my rc.conf. In the handbook it says to add these lines: >=20 > cloned_interfaces=3D"bridge0" > ifconfig_bridge0=3D"addm em0 addm fxp0 addm fxp1 addm fxp2 addm fxp3 up= " > ifconfig_fxp0=3D"up" > ifconfig_fxp1=3D"up" > ifconfig_fxp2=3D"up" > ifconfig_fxp3=3D"up" > ifconfig_em0=3D"up" =2E.. and then add all of these lines to the rest of the existing rc.conf= > How should I intermingle these lines with my existing rc.conf, and/or > which lines should I remove? I want em0, fxp0, fxp1, fxp2, and fxp3 > to be a bridge and be assigned the IP address 192.168.0.254. To give the whole ensemble an IP address, simply set the IP on the bridge= 0 interface. I think you can do it most easily by adding this line, ipv4_addrs_bridge0=3D"192.168.0.254/24" but in case that doesn't work correctly, just extend the ifconfig_bridge0= setting: ifconfig_bridge0=3D"addm em0 addm fxp0 addm fxp1 addm fxp2 addm fxp3 inet= 192.168.0.254 netmask 255.255.255.0 up" See the section on network_interfaces in rc.conf(5) for more detail and some other possibilities. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig2F3C1FE9F79F48AE43BF1263 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkp+jP4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzn3QCeN3Oh0vEXSQNEM7x8yv1rFyam /JcAn3QTfV1Ynoxk18hNmilYeixgFkm6 =Ppv6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2F3C1FE9F79F48AE43BF1263-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 09:01:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B116D106564A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:01:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from comp.john@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB1D8FC20 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:01:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so1533669bwz.43 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 02:01:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=73c5kd0nJzQb5gTvvh/yEl2qwOfgk4lPFh4T8q/0o7w=; b=MkVs5zXgdH7TpeqchyOEt5/KH3FchZbO6uiQzx2mTf07p68Gr1AMo/X9Mpc1l0Vq3N E5jN7hqaTOqMyGYziPHUUgfAcy6L/8K34OHIB6AKwJL9/0AQ117WgfkmcUdOBlz9F7o/ l6W/V3FIwVYtVc24t8/Q9ofzs+QKNmFW2RFDw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=b0S/kX1zhdpfqaujapE2vy9C395fcu89msdd282R3IZjbRoQNKCBF/QC3SDlMaSO4r DkkGcuqJTxR0ucA6QOcWrbsn6Mv4by+jf7UXlWSaxcWUCJvLcBRPfTDbFshJaukz5z1e l9Osis9KMlndH90KIOV9kALH5DSpMpOozDT/Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.108.210 with SMTP id g18mr712687fap.6.1249808501866; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 02:01:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:01:41 +0100 Message-ID: From: "John ." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: a (hopefully) simple newbie zfs query regarding available space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 09:01:43 -0000 2009/8/9 chris scott : > > not a zfs thing is happens with all os and file systems. Basically HD > manufacturers quote their capacities in base 10 ie 1 TB =3D 1000000000 by= tes. > File systems are calculated in binary therefore the calculation they use = is > 1024 x 1024 x 1024 =3D 1099511627776. Slightly more as you can see. > > Therefore 1 GB is os terms is 1073741824 > > therefore hd capacity in GB is > > 1000000000000/1073741824 =3D 931.322575 > > The extra you see is it due to HD manufactures slightly over capacity the > drives > Hi, What I meant was, I was seeing 931MB instead of 1.6TB (2x1TB disks) but this was because I didn't read about zfs properly (they recommend 3 or more disks. In the man page for zpool it says: "A =A0raidz group with N disks of size X with P parity disks can hold approximately (N-P)*X bytes [...] The recommended number is between 3 and 9" so, I'll wait till I get an array before implementing zfs. In the meantime, I'm using gconcat. Sorry for the noise. --=20 John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 09:13:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C8D106566B for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:13:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB878FC1F for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:13:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so1535717bwz.43 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 02:13:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=DfBpFxpsnFzkXhsxH/8PajsJhDIdZQ4sCtukNIFEDVI=; b=AUOz34QBuFALlw5fFOkg5lAbe6CY2JLltGN78yl0smfbvOxtIT5a8v8YlQzkt3JETQ 9mVLjhJx2QhuXcUg3Y1cistWgC7HRfFZme5TfG8URqDUHEtXktKT20H+iTRByTBBC5kv 3+aTligLoPsbvEV3jCjDKUsYYh44WAc2LXem0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=JcFZDYKObHz6OBsvfKoINkD0Qapg88Zw6PrYD9b2BHIIE5+/ZzaIXbuq5oA53F+wPa EcmLcpcL4i8HTKpT/RvKy1Qj6UeQCT+sPFTuWJ+ZhsG1vt4MwgY6uiWjdwbj0amFgNk5 DWUF0VNdNN1bP3kW8E1IIriWAd4d70/RPgQ8s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.102.215.19 with SMTP id n19mr481052mug.79.1249809191009; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 02:13:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:13:10 +0100 Message-ID: From: chris scott To: "John ." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a (hopefully) simple newbie zfs query regarding available space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 09:13:13 -0000 2009/8/9 John . > 2009/8/9 chris scott : > > > > > not a zfs thing is happens with all os and file systems. Basically HD > > manufacturers quote their capacities in base 10 ie 1 TB = 1000000000 > bytes. > > File systems are calculated in binary therefore the calculation they use > is > > 1024 x 1024 x 1024 = 1099511627776. Slightly more as you can see. > > > > Therefore 1 GB is os terms is 1073741824 > > > > therefore hd capacity in GB is > > > > 1000000000000/1073741824 = 931.322575 > > > > The extra you see is it due to HD manufactures slightly over capacity the > > drives > > > > Hi, > > What I meant was, I was seeing 931MB instead of 1.6TB (2x1TB disks) > but this was because I didn't read about zfs properly (they recommend > 3 or more disks. In the man page for zpool it says: > > "A raidz group with N disks of size X with P parity disks can hold > approximately (N-P)*X bytes > [...] > The recommended number is between 3 and 9" > > so, I'll wait till I get an array before implementing zfs. In the > meantime, I'm using gconcat. Sorry for the noise. > > -- > John > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ah did you do a zpool create tank ad0 then zpool attach tank ad1 type thing? if you did you have you have created a mirror to fix do a zpool dettach ad1 then a zpool add ad1 to create a stripe Having said that it not good practice to have no redundancy. You could comprise by putting your important data on a dedicated file system then setting copies to 2 or 3 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 09:45:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD57C106566B for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:45:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684448FC20 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:45:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com ([98.150.187.245]) by hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090809094508336.TWKU15589@hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com>; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:45:08 +0000 Received: from holstein.holy.cow (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A18F33C5; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:47:12 -1000 (HST) Received: (from parv@localhost) by holstein.holy.cow (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n799lAmY003240; Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:47:10 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) X-Authentication-Warning: holstein.holy.cow: parv set sender to parv@pair.com using -f Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:47:10 -1000 From: Parv To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090809094710.GA1703@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Polytropon , Chad Perrin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090806120011.8528A106567E@hub.freebsd.org> <182370.92452.qm@web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <20090808164600.GA11570@kokopelli.hydra> <20090808195518.7eb8e5ee.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090808195518.7eb8e5ee.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: Chad Perrin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Availability & quality of manual pages (was Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 09:45:09 -0000 in message <20090808195518.7eb8e5ee.freebsd@edvax.de>, wrote Polytropon thusly... > > On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:46:00 -0600, Chad Perrin > wrote: > > Yeah, I hate that stuff. (referring to loathsome info pages.) > > The GNU project is kind of like the Microsoft of the open source > > community, that way. > > Be happy that there at least is an info manual. In many cases, > there is NO local documentation, neither in man or info format. ... > Fortunately, there are even "GUI only" projects that keep up with > the good manpage tradition. Have you ever tried "man opera" ... Hot Diggity! I never thought of Opera having a man page. Thanks much. Dang it! Firefox does not have one. - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 10:34:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B96E106566C for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380808FC1E for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so2198258qyk.3 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:34:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Yvt7r7T3EnWoP+8neO1/lnAiP9A20jUC7O/QTvtbIE4=; b=SlxWj8RSWpe+2QMmd7niFiPFb6aei5EEAcXjVqoJm25p8B42mEOlD54Wla0SUO4fUX KS47E/KYRQzTeLgrNLJAJy7kdRdQTgSp0VM1gHK3XoxLuQ53cIdiV5VTX/DVWYjTfR67 N0uoN8JhJqpQgm7KMdfmDNDir3eawUNO+9pNw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=anz1ifb+HfTWN/O3NUSrW7Eg2p0KFB/YzqlLgXR0wEFbJHy4iEARrlpNAlckQElTam 0khE1W2Ia0+XUHVfNOgc49YQFMYIhC5J7btR/L81EY1EmMwFd7j8LkNHyIJXcp5mO1qG cY5G9o4BYG+Ryp+80msXc8baOG7iImEYBRgsw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.74.149 with SMTP id u21mr993328qcj.53.1249814074575; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:34:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A7E8CF8.1080109@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <560f92640908082323j7a243fd0r22af5b947442745d@mail.gmail.com> <4A7E8CF8.1080109@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 03:34:33 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640908090334s37a65ba1kc128f34d2c2566f0@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Network bridge, but assigned IP address X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:34:35 -0000 > To give the whole ensemble an IP address, simply set the IP on the bridge0 > interface. I think you can do it most easily by adding this line, > > ipv4_addrs_bridge0="192.168.0.254/24" Indeed, that works well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 12:24:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A34106566C for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 12:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15AC8FC08 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 12:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090809122437.PSLH22327.mta11.charter.net@imp10> for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:24:37 -0400 Received: from larry.local ([24.176.107.74]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id SCQd1c0041cLRPc05CQdQL; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:24:37 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=JzeP3PO7k-g51T8N4L8A:9 a=hxjvAUDik3s1w5kGMv8A:7 a=N_mD808oaJJSYxz7d5FhNWjjWJkA:4 Message-Id: <2A95E0AE-73DF-48F5-87E6-32683FE5AA8C@charter.net> From: Charles Howse To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <200908082038.51127.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:24:37 -0500 References: <2097B988-0F1B-4F60-812D-71F6AB2C17CA@charter.net> <200908080836.09084.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <200908082038.51127.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: mod_security 2.5.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:24:51 -0000 On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:38 PM, Mel Flynn wrote: > On Saturday 08 August 2009 19:38:42 Charles Howse wrote: >> On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Mel Flynn wrote: >>> On Saturday 08 August 2009 08:00:47 Charles Howse wrote: >>>> Just wondering if anyone has tried updating from mod_security 2.5.9 >>>> to >>>> 2.5.9_1 via portupgrade. >>>> It fails with a "linker error" for me. >>> >>> And can we see the actual linker error? >> >> Thought I had included enough in my original post. >> Here's the mod_security part of 'portupgrade -a' >> >> ... >> [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 51 >> packages found (-0 +1) . done] >> ---> Upgrading 'mod_security-2.5.9' to 'mod_security-2.5.9_1' (www/ >> mod_security) >> ---> Building '/usr/ports/www/mod_security' > > ... > >> checking for libapr config script... /usr/local/bin/apr-1-config >> configure: using ' -lcrypt -pthread' for apr Library > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> /usr/local/share/apr/build-1/libtool --silent --mode=link cc -o >> mod_security2.la -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/ >> lib - >> L/usr/local/lib -lpcre -lxml2 -lz -liconv -lm -rpath /usr/local/ >> libexec/apache22 -module -avoid-version msc_release.lo msc_lua.lo >> acmp.lo msc_geo.lo pdf_protect.lo msc_reqbody.lo persist_dbm.lo >> msc_pcre.lo msc_util.lo msc_parsers.lo modsecurity.lo >> msc_multipart.lo >> msc_xml.lo msc_logging.lo re_variables.lo re_tfns.lo re_actions.lo >> re_operators.lo re.lo apache2_util.lo apache2_io.lo apache2_config.lo >> mod_security2.lo >> # XXX there is "mlogc-static" target in the Makefile, too >> cd /usr/ports/www/mod_security/work/modsecurity-apache_2.5.9/apache2 >> && /usr/bin/env SHELL=/bin/sh NO_LINT=YES PREFIX=/usr/local >> LOCALBASE=/usr/local X11BASE=/usr/local MOTIFLIB="-L/usr/local/lib - >> lXm -lXp" LIBDIR="/usr/lib" CC="cc" CFLAGS="-O2 -fno-strict- >> aliasing - >> pipe" CXX="c++" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe" >> MANPREFIX="/ >> usr/local" BSD_INSTALL_PROGRAM="install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555" >> BSD_INSTALL_SCRIPT="install -o root -g wheel -m 555" >> BSD_INSTALL_DATA="install -o root -g wheel -m 444" >> BSD_INSTALL_MAN="install -o root -g wheel -m 444" make -f Makefile >> mlogc >> >> Building dynamically linked mlogc... >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_yield' >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to >> `pthread_attr_destroy' >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_create' >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to >> `pthread_attr_init' >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_exit' >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_equal' >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_detach' >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to >> `pthread_attr_setstacksize' >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to >> `pthread_attr_getdetachstate' >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to >> `pthread_attr_setguardsize' >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to >> `pthread_attr_setdetachstate' >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_join' >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to >> `pthread_cond_timedwait' >> *** Error code 1 > > Apparently -pthread isn't passed here. I've tried to reproduce this, > but I > can't. Could you show the output of: > make -C /usr/ports/www/mod_security actual-package-depends root@curly /root# make -C /usr/ports/www/mod_security actual-package- depends pcre-7.9:devel/pcre apr-gdbm-db42-1.3.8.1.3.9:devel/apr curl-7.19.5_1:ftp/curl libxml2-2.7.3:textproc/libxml2 apache-2.2.11_7:www/apache22 pkg-config-0.23_1:devel/pkg-config expat-2.0.1:textproc/expat2 gdbm-1.8.3_3:databases/gdbm db42-4.2.52_5:databases/db42 libiconv-1.13.1:converters/libiconv ca_root_nss-3.11.9_2:security/ca_root_nss pkg-config-0.23_1:devel/pkg-config libiconv-1.13.1:converters/libiconv expat-2.0.1:textproc/expat2 perl-5.8.9_3:lang/perl5.8 pcre-7.9:devel/pcre libiconv-1.13.1:converters/libiconv root@curly /root# > > Also the contents of /var/db/ports/apr/options. root@curly /root# cat /var/db/ports/apr/options # This file is auto-generated by 'make config'. # No user-servicable parts inside! # Options for apr-gdbm-db42-1.3.3.1.3.4_1 _OPTIONS_READ=apr-gdbm-db42-1.3.3.1.3.4_1 WITH_THREADS=true WITHOUT_IPV6=true WITH_GDBM=true WITH_BDB=true WITHOUT_NDBM=true WITHOUT_LDAP=true WITHOUT_MYSQL=true WITHOUT_PGSQL=true root@curly /root# Thanks Mel! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 13:08:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7471065679 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:08:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vk3mrc@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667DA8FC16 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:08:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so3230140yxe.3 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 06:08:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=RrLgrxspsKBL583vHCNP1i4/PCW7r2KGGq51Avchi5A=; b=aJ0Uxs1ISbuafdq7ucFYeHB7a9ZPYke2aliPDSZv0hSkTCdM6APH0Grkn3SCdjFLZe JcpdO+3rEMUF9Kh6e4QUBkb9SuimTGaks9ZHARlsgI35TlOusz/r0HiWi5N3bsEQf+Mv jiFfbdeAK43iziHGAQhuJVqR/P5ZPM57oyPT8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=xCHfu7tN6s5wU8+UyoctK4xjD9FtNqLIWzioYWA9ReCi3oBnLgKgdzDp/BD1tVSt4k JFWPpZBZD7S3myBaEZ8XnIgCZ8nUF3AVCZCrbH7FKwxeKtlx2B7EkuALC4OZ9AFpcQW/ vKU+fsC60bTgFmFZPeCRZSE8tS1dhMRyeUBDI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.45.21 with SMTP id x21mr6162309ybj.91.1249821665511; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 05:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:41:05 +1000 Message-ID: From: Michael Christie To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:08:10 -0000 Hi there all, I need your help. I have a supermicro server which was running Freebsd 7.1 with 2 SATA drives. I have had G mirror running on the server. I needed to do a full reinstall of freebsd but was unable to disengage the mirror at th= e time. When installing Freebsd, on to the drives i see i have AD4 AD6 and AR= 0 on the disk label, i have installed the new free bsd in AD4, and the system would not boot. I have come across this before where i have to remove AR0 to default the drive, i can remember reading a thread on how to use =93fix it=94 and using= the live cd. I have google but cannot find it Please is there any one here that can refresh my memory and tell me how to remove gmirror from my drives so i can do a fresh install,. Thanmks Mick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 13:11:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390241065670 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:11:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vk3mrc@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f180.google.com (mail-yw0-f180.google.com [209.85.211.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CEC8FC1F for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:11:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh10 with SMTP id 10so5572988ywh.7 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 06:11:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=rDYCHfqLkWNCrbTxAW6SyNdgggQkUe/SkLKvRshV8NY=; b=kOViRjrjnjV+UD3+AwZ64v26bmKDKbVqVGCr2SK/tkmWEcEoYIsB3TjlZmnb2qz69/ 43QtGx0+deDnG5jPmVRoQqDIjfZbHQ1V9PmMslBcdXUJqoMArXz9EzPHFcRk7UzeXzzK YW8cmubmgv/4giQ4ygnLXwKY0JD6vQl9UB2gI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gEm6fnaiWzc7Ac4pPLIJkw6+haf17ZVAl4EmZKpeU4Nu4A0Gdmm8XlpSD6+QNRNPWI 2myJm72TRU/Cnn/uVCDHRBTJbQDzhINrXP7k3cMHksasD5TWEU8vgTyHunbLCNuIf+q6 wr4jP3jmdrCfMSL6gOcAXtKtk/3zpRXmQ+yVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.146.7 with SMTP id t7mr6111106ybd.265.1249821529973; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 05:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:38:49 +1000 Message-ID: From: Michael Christie To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:11:18 -0000 Hi there all, I need your help. I have a supermicro server which was running Freebsd 7.1 with 2 SATA drives. I have had G mirror running on the server. I needed to do a full reinstall of freebsd but was unable to disengage the mirror at th= e time. When installing Freebsd, on to the drives i see i have AD4 AD6 and AR= 0 on the disk label, i have installed the new free bsd in AD4, and the system would not boot. I have come across this before where i have to remove AR0 to default the drive, i can remember reading a thread on how to use =93fix it=94 and using= the live cd. I have google but cannot find it Please is there any one here that can refresh my memory and tell me how to remove gmirror from my drives so i can do a fresh install,. Thanmks Mick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 13:27:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D7C1065675 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84EA8FC44 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:27:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n79DRufF040915; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:27:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F1195BA8A; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:27:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:27:55 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Michael Christie Message-ID: <20090809132755.GA7438@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/04w6evG8XlLl3ft" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:27:58 -0000 --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 10:41:05PM +1000, Michael Christie wrote: > Hi there all, >=20 > I need your help. I have a supermicro server which was running Freebsd 7.1 > with 2 SATA drives. I have had G mirror running on the server. I needed to > do a full reinstall of freebsd but was unable to disengage the mirror at = the > time. When installing Freebsd, on to the drives i see i have AD4 AD6 and = AR0 > on the disk label, i have installed the new free bsd in AD4, and the syst= em > would not boot. >=20 > I have come across this before where i have to remove AR0 to default the > drive, i can remember reading a thread on how to use =E2=80=9Cfix it=E2= =80=9D and using the > live cd. I have google but cannot find it > > Please is there any one here that can refresh my memory and tell me how to > remove gmirror from my drives so i can do a fresh install,. I don't think you have to do a new install. Just use 'boot0cfg -s 1 ad4' to make the next boot start from da4. Then rebuild ad6: 'gmirror rebuild ar0 a= d6'. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEUEARECAAYFAkp+ztsACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVcpQCdHlLFj3JlD5RMN10vsXGzxYtH oLIAl0fdADmLHmPC3TBa0Mp9XtKFby8= =QKl0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 13:34:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5E1106564A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:34:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251668FC45 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:34:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so2226121qyk.3 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 06:34:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FH4hNJrVAKQsPkcYTwTO3lbKjmeSZzet9PnouUpDmi4=; b=TK6q14/kFRmRiQAViApa0bV5m7JBTbYOpOvRCDjwhy9vq61LnjKlWivYB6edLsVlkI i6D2xw03/pIS+TziCaQkOQ92Yyv5wJKNRji42npzhyn34Paqs7mf9/6ZjIMiuipa99aR 9y7v6bYce9Pqy/5Z56sjbv2cAqxOtYoRO6svQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=WcGBGUO9LEG38JJYY0VeTVTnDz4VLG0hh009+ZtNaFEL4AZOVIoewGWfhJnyp1oq+D 6yMlMlKzHqUKo91qRfqEz1Oe+CGsOOeTyMbh0I6ANDuB9S672mx6UdPpwLh2h0J17ILi bcz4F2g4Fnn+NwWfRh3W0KeZ23WiAgj7mt8nU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.95.4 with SMTP id b4mr1093298qcn.40.1249823408692; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 06:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:10:08 +0000 Message-ID: <11167f520908090610h4d35895bl9f51de3566138f44@mail.gmail.com> From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: netgraph aggrate L2 tunnels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:34:27 -0000 hello list, I have searched the web for hours and I cant seem to find a recent How to for my project. I have 2 FreeBSD 8 machines 1 at my office and 1 at a colo datacenter. I have 2 DSL connections at my office, Would like a recipe to bond the connections to the datacenter FreeBSD box via L2 netgraph tunnels. the goal is to combine the DSL download speeds for a single tcp connection. after much searching I believe netgraph is the most elegant way to achieve this Would the Lagg driver be a good choice for bonding both sides? Setup info My DSL lines both have seprate static IP's from my telco, the telco does not support MLPPP my inside office network is 192.168.1.x, and the data center has a single static ip I could get more if I need them. I assume I would assign the datacenter side of the tunnel a 192.168.1.x address and use that as my gateway and run pf at the data center with nat. I am sure there are several people out there that understand netgraph and could post config examples. Thank you in advance Sam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 13:59:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0CD3106566B for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:59:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-31.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-31.bluehost.com [69.89.18.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B22C88FC1D for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24755 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 13:59:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 13:59:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=klAgRr3gBnj0RrduuiW5unwq+PWvUidaJYJChpJfau3nM37AJUVZceIQcuJhyyZ/TobpQ0xa2BB6rkU9N8tWP7nVxOoQyzhFvYidcD/9lMRDMGweJe1OJ1VvCra/MrBR; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ma8wG-00008o-Dz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 07:59:57 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:52:31 -0600 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:52:31 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090809135230.GA21588@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090806120011.8528A106567E@hub.freebsd.org> <182370.92452.qm@web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <20090808164600.GA11570@kokopelli.hydra> <20090808195518.7eb8e5ee.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J/dobhs11T7y2rNN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090808195518.7eb8e5ee.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: > upgrade 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:59:58 -0000 --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 07:55:18PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:46:00 -0600, Chad Perrin wrot= e: > > Yeah, I hate that stuff. The GNU project is kind of like the Microsoft > > of the open source community, that way. >=20 > Be happy that there at least is an info manual. In many cases, there > is NO local documentation, neither in man or info format. The usual > cases of documentation, often found in different Linusi, but as well > in some "modern software" on FreeBSD, are: > - bury the documentation in an arbitrary web location > - use a Wiki for documentation > - let the users write the documentation > - don't document anything. An info page is almost as bad as nothing, as far as I'm concerned. The GNU project has this bizarre idea that everybody in the world should use everything it produces and *nothing else*, no matter how painful it all is to use -- and assumes everybody should be using emacs, so obviously the baroque emacs-inspired interface to info pages is "ideal". Debian actually tended to be pretty good at manpage coverage of software and files on the system, but FreeBSD still manages to do at least slightly better most of the time -- and, for some reason, few of the other Linux distributions took advantage of the manpages produced by the Debian project. >=20 > Fortunately, there are even "GUI only" projects that keep up with > the good manpage tradition. Have you ever tried "man opera" or > "man gmencoder"? On the other hand, most KDE stuff doesn't have > a manpage - of course, I can understand it. From their point of > view, the question would be: Who would want to read documentation? > Answer: Nobody. So why spend time to create it? This is one reason among many I have no interest in using KDE software. >=20 > > The FHS isn't a Unix standard. It's a Linux distributions standard. >=20 > It aims to be. To be . . . which one? I'm sure its proponents want it to take over the world, but frankly, I hope it fails miserably. They're actually doing things that break backward compatibility with older "standard" ways of doing things just for the sake of political expediency, which definitely gets my hackles up. >=20 > > In the specific case of creating /etc/opt, you shouldn't really be > > damaging anything, but there's a very good reason that stuff is in > > /usr/local/etc -- so that when using separate filesystems for separate > > parts of the hierarchy, you don't separate the stuff installed in > > /usr/local from its configuration data. >=20 > Especially in an environment with "elevated security", there are > resons to separate things filesystem wise. File permissions and > mount options are a topic there, and symlinking across partitions > is a no-go in such settings. That's another excellent point. >=20 > > The FHS doesn't apply to FreeBSD (or any other BSD Unix, or any > > commercial UNIX system, for that matter), so it's not "breaking" > > anything.=20 >=20 > Just have a look at how Solaris, HP-UX or AIX organize things in > terms of directories. You'll be surprised every day where you > can find stange things. :-) Hell, I've been surprised at the strange places Red Hat keeps things sometimes, even when Linux distributions were my daily business. >=20 > > Then again, I go out of my way to make sure I use network-attached > > PostScript laser printers, and they tend to be very well supported by > > CUPS on BSD Unix and other Unix-like OSes. >=20 > Postscript capable network printers have the advanage that they don't > need any support. PS is the default output format for printing, so > there's no need to mess around with filters. Most office class printers > even include a spooling mechanism for the printer jobs, so this > takes away more work from the OS. You simply use the system's lpr > command to shove data into the printer, and it does the rest by itself. I kinda like having the ability to manage my printer spool from the system where the print job was created, though, using the same interface I used to configure the printer and send jobs to it in the first place. >=20 > > Don't forget that `man man` will tell you stuff like how to access a > > manpage in a particular section of the Unix Manual: > >=20 > > man n foo > >=20 > > . . . where "n" is the section number and "foo" is the manpage in that > > section you want to read. >=20 > It's worth mentioning that there are manpages that don't refer to a > particular binary, file, interface or function, but instead provide > information about maintenance operations and general introduction. > An example is >=20 > % man intro >=20 > There are other manpages that give hints for compiling the system, > such as "man build", and others. Indeed. Another is: man security --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth James Madison: "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkp+1J4ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVC5QCfSlQtLGwWi1l8urtrW3DdZhWg Gr4An2tBaiM7NHjCvfTcKohTo2u65dZp =O2Oh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 14:08:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB39106564A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:08:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-151.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-151.bluehost.com [67.222.39.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 198998FC19 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:08:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24486 invoked by uid 0); 9 Aug 2009 14:08:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2009 14:08:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=PNYmkSXIB2J9UgXRfWkA+xbkTU25+aPVFvBuHNJVibEAxVuw11fnnt4RuXsPJ6YIUEE0b2j6G1sg22MpbFM2sAp/UDgqgfm/Dmy8Jfo6XQ/tnmEBYS9otDwwVSzpSU9L; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ma948-0002cy-BX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:08:04 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:00:38 -0600 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:00:38 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090809140038.GB21588@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090808233414.171401065686@hub.freebsd.org> <496205.8560.qm@web65512.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eAbsdosE1cNLO4uF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <496205.8560.qm@web65512.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:08:05 -0000 --eAbsdosE1cNLO4uF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 10:09:30PM -0700, James Phillips wrote: >=20 > Okay, after reading this, I used the "WayBack Machine" to review the > printing section of the April 17, 2006 version of the Handbook. >=20 > I was not able to find anything that is writing a print-driver per-se. > In the "Advanced" section numerous shell scripts are described (some of > which use printer commands directly), but they tend to use filters from > the ports collection: > http://web.archive.org/web/20060417220024/www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO88= 59-1/books/handbook/printing-advanced.html >=20 > There is a section in the "Simple" section that explicitly says PS !=3D > PCL. Part of the problem may be I did not have documentation for my > printer, so did not know how to put it in postscript mode. >=20 > I really did feel I needed the PCL 4 documentation at one point. I'm > going to have to conclude I was mistaken. No biggie. We all make mistakes from time to time (even me). For most of my printing needs, I use an HP 4050N. Configuring CUPS to use it was very straightforward -- I just chose the most obvious values from the options presented to me, and everything worked beautifully. For most, if not all, network-attached HP printers, I rather suspect it'd be much the same. Anyway, best of luck with it. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Malaclypse the Younger: "'Tis an ill wind that blows no minds." --eAbsdosE1cNLO4uF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkp+1oYACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXzMQCgwESSmhL3hzN2hEI5SZwXZZ1E gzEAn1XOS+fmaecBhLdk3XNvNwyi4Emb =gSW+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eAbsdosE1cNLO4uF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 14:23:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F041065673 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:23:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahlerrd@yahoo.com) Received: from web51012.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51012.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.39.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 200968FC1F for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10032 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Aug 2009 14:23:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249827787; bh=rdatEjlFgvGcxz/qpE3XcUJzPoCqYN69cfwjD9xAgJU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DuE1zxtkpcP4gIsOnmqc5W1Btv2fdA71LYzXqj2LWRwvj2XX46jCgBz5vAw6vHP40nWEQIgmH9aoN+zcrDrDwJJHB9YkQNp81Cr9icjXkIgpUY9QJAnevI0mj1tbf8wxpS8d5jVWzlqB3/j09UFSsRX24gL1bBc33Q8aX1r2bkc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=a7rFWsNfxcavkdOgmqizMxVQ8pvWv+a/BvBzgUHs9LWKzP/m+ujnM1hROIsCoqE2omnPD7M0eTx/PgjDsWw6xW9hIRTIQoMjVIfNppswX7BU5wx3X135Jf7TuG//uo1Tayffsb2GEJmA4UAAL1lKQiio0ROQBAxvTRA1+dbxjCs=; Message-ID: <319781.6756.qm@web51012.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: olfC65EVM1lhcPJ7V5OdkY8iHwuYje8qRSZks4oNuKnOi96ntkHhS8ABBu8RWUcSRQRr9kjrP6.rUOY9Gb6RlJG.6B8Tg.w7wa0KZGVdQQctYZOeiphf2lu6mjVeg.WAQoIm_waK2T8ojCPo4_1OyAzEmkh8qQ4k8zuisLIo8.RkM7Pv9JydLeZMcaEgwUCD33kKz5PlwEKB9LIYfwZ9ATNRE00wFHn7saI7jG_ggyhFbEC1RCZQFpsNJ6BfXhKAaf1WkKr9duXX6EVo8Fj46b7bGpJDy3GFb_5baAWBIcnraEk.hYldaj6DeKSyvIugaug- Received: from [71.117.53.27] by web51012.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 07:23:07 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:23:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Mahlerwein To: FreeBSD-Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Failed update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mahlerrd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:23:08 -0000 In upgrading 7.1-PRELEASE to -stable, all seemed fine until I rebooted out of single user mode after doing make installworld and mergemaster. Now I get to devd and it dies. I've copied down what's on screen and typed it here. **** [snip] starting devd. Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode. cpu id = 0; apic id = 00 fault virtual address = 0x3030313a fault code = supervisor write, page not present [snip] current process = 355 (devd) **** What critical step did I miss? Single user mode seems OK, and I can mount the drives (though right now it'll tell me to fsck, since I just hard crashed). I have not tried to cycle this thing much, for fear of trashing something further, but I did at least try one reboot. Same issue. (and yes, I'll be researching this myself, but I thought I'd get this message out there sooner rather than later...) Rich Mahlerwein Mobile: 715-891-7420 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 14:29:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5810106566C for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:29:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miklosovic.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AEE8FC1A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so1594652bwz.43 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 07:29:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=oWjSB7UD3oY3MYr0JYA2p1JMOVEMlox7m2HGAExTtjU=; b=gKY1rW/dy7g+xGx+sFxgTakmOUVxKRokHRmyTcPcFRtlR+lS0nkNHZqYnQt20bI0WL SOigrqRNx8iZsuMAX3VpBO2NzcFnP5zS8+VRXSmBlkkJNk026cIrVeiXW22RaNcF3HP1 KZ8q1OXF0FAJ4aKIW2ovSNyNS3sjFaLmC4Qng= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Rwj1C7QxijPyOaFW/OGAfwL7KSD/CAHbKp76dsf1LtaZyPAS/Brxsb4NoWqgOuvy5r BmCnLRIpJzWOfxah1lFa25TGYJzvXtWwMg10W78lETOhjPHYlZlE9vbWTWd93A17d8n1 lDHZ6apEcW648nNFp8MQKgMmr9p+Yx9kHIVSg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.102.253.15 with SMTP id a15mr1426474mui.50.1249828183261; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 07:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:29:43 +0200 Message-ID: From: Stefan Miklosovic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: sftp + chrooting users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:29:45 -0000 hi all, I am about chrooting ftp users into theirs home directories. I've following in the end of /etc/ssh/sshd_config Subsystem sftp internal-sftp Match group ftp ChrootDirectory /home X11Forwarding no AllowTcpForwarding no ForceCommand internal-sftp Now, problem I am facing: if I connect like user@hostname (user is in ftp group) and do "ls", it shows all content of /home dir which is not wanted. I want to chroot user to /home/user. But, as in manual, if you are going to do that, chrooted dir must be owned by root and not writable by anyone. This is impossible to do then. In sshd_config(5), there is ChrootDirectory keyword, and there are %u (user name) and %h (home dir) which would work, but they do not. Using of ChrootDirectory /home/%u does not work (because of privileges issue). it is also an option to chmod 700 for home dirs, but is there some other way? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 14:30:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6B510656E3 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315668FC40 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n79EUbE2022371; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:30:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n79EUbE2022371 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1249828239; bh=bbguc0yfMCqc+jGKP6J6bMOaadNuyf5EfSPI/JhGSOk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A7EDD86.3000608@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2009=20Aug=202009=2015:30:30=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.22=20(X11/20090724)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Michael=20Christie=20|CC:=20fre ebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20(no=20subject)|Referen ces:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipa rt/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"applicat ion/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigB73D83AC 1C48C272C8239898"; b=oXG0igjG5pQezabb3KfotAr26Cf/tAgVCg8VIkohs1TSr5Ozqf1CGbh43dk6qt7+V ASLaUQSFCg6IvQSB5A09o5aQ3yBLvyxLLP5ldGV5gXemGgylvpoHVB6AHUgx2I7KXK HR/5YJ4TOiYDH3cLLoJuX7Y642s0twb57nXUfUM4= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4A7EDD86.3000608@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:30:30 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Christie References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB73D83AC1C48C272C8239898" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:30:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB73D83AC1C48C272C8239898 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Christie wrote: > Hi there all, >=20 > I need your help. I have a supermicro server which was running Freebsd = 7.1 > with 2 SATA drives. I have had G mirror running on the server. I needed= to > do a full reinstall of freebsd but was unable to disengage the mirror a= t the > time. When installing Freebsd, on to the drives i see i have AD4 AD6 an= d AR0 > on the disk label, i have installed the new free bsd in AD4, and the sy= stem > would not boot. >=20 >=20 >=20 > I have come across this before where i have to remove AR0 to default th= e > drive, i can remember reading a thread on how to use =93fix it=94 and u= sing the > live cd. I have google but cannot find it You do understand that 'ar0' is an ATARAID mirror and nothing to do with = gmirror at all? gmirror uses device names like /dev/mirror/gm0 typically. > Please is there any one here that can refresh my memory and tell me how= to > remove gmirror from my drives so i can do a fresh install,. You don't need to remove gmirror per-se. If you do a fresh install on to= p of what you have, it will set up the drive you install on as a stand-alon= e disk. In fact, you can take one of a gmirror'd pair and just tweak the d= evice names in /etc/fstab and run it as a plain disk pretty easily without rein= stalling at all. There will be gmirror metadata blocks on disk, but these wont have any ef= fect unless you mount partitions on the gmirror device. To remove those metad= ata blocks, just do=20 # gmirror clear /dev/mirror/gm0 (or whatever your gmirror device is called) -- obviously *not* while the = gmirror is active. You may need to allow writes to an active underlying partitio= n by # sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=3D16 The ATARAID mirror you seem to have picked up inadvertently is very simil= ar to a gmirror RAID in the way it works, except that it won't generally have t= he nice behaviour for replacing blown hot-swap drives without having to reboot th= e system. In any case, you can just ignore /dev/ar0 and mount partitions from /dev/= ad4=20 instead, equivalently as for the gmirror case. To remove ar0, just do: # atacontrol delete ar0 Either of these are fairly safe to do while the system is up and running.= Also, I suspect that your system is not booting for a different reason th= an you think. You'ld have to tell us the exact error message you see in ord= er to get a definitive answer, but given what you've described two pretty likel= y problems are: * Early stage boot blocks can't find the kernel image. In this case you'll be dumped at the loader prompt and asked to give the device name and path to read the kernel from -- typically something like =20 (ad,0)/boot/kernel/kernel (you can use the 'ls' command in the loader to see what available d= evices there are to try booting from). * Can't mount root partition. Generally this means that /etc/fstab c= ontains incorrect data. In this case, you can probably boot to single user= , remount the root partition read-write and then edit /etc/fstab=20 These are not impossibly difficult things to deal with, but neither are t= hey entirely trivial, and if you're a beginner and you don't care about what'= s currently on the disk, you might find it more productive just to reinstal= l over the top of the previous contents. 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My guess is I goofed so= mething during mergemaster and devd.conf is messed up. (Mergemaster is, un= deniably, my least favorite utility). =0A=0AI can suffer the system being = down for a while, as long as my wife has access to a handful of files. =0A= =0AHow would I go about mounting a USB stick, if such can be done in single= -user mode? =0A=0AI have several sitting around that I could copy stuff to= (I'm sure that's easier than pulling off the backup I made last night, sin= ce the backup is in dump format on tape, and since my only bsd box is curre= ntly not working...)=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 15:50:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359F4106564A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahlerrd@yahoo.com) Received: from web51005.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51005.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.136]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E25008FC0A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 15:50:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 37743 invoked by uid 60001); 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Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:50:34 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:50:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Mahlerwein To: FreeBSD-Questions In-Reply-To: <526027.78512.qm@web51009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Failed update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mahlerrd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:50:36 -0000 --- On Sun, 8/9/09, Richard Mahlerwein wrote:=0A=0A> F= rom: Richard Mahlerwein =0A> Subject: Re: Failed update= =0A> To: "FreeBSD-Questions" =0A> Date: Sund= ay, August 9, 2009, 11:34 AM=0A> --- On Sun, 8/9/09, Richard=0A> Mahlerwein= =0A> wrote:=0A> =0A> > From: Richard Mahlerwein =0A> > Subject: Failed update=0A> > To: "FreeBSD-Questions" <= freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>=0A> > Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 10:23 AM= =0A> > In upgrading 7.1-PRELEASE to -stable,=0A> > all seemed fine until I = rebooted out of single user=0A> mode=0A> > after doing make installworld an= d mergemaster.=0A> > =0A> > Now I get to devd and it dies.=A0 I've copied d= own=0A> > what's on screen and typed it here.=0A> > =0A> > ****=0A> > [snip= ]=0A> > starting devd.=0A> > =0A> > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kern= el mode.=0A> > cpu id =3D 0; apic id =3D 00=0A> > fault virtual address =3D= 0x3030313a=0A> > fault code =3D supervisor write, page not present=0A> > [= snip]=0A> > current process =3D 355 (devd)=0A> > =0A> > ****=0A> > =0A> > W= hat critical step did I miss?=A0 Single user mode=0A> seems=0A> > OK, and I= can mount the drives (though right now it'll=0A> tell=0A> > me to fsck, si= nce I just hard crashed).=A0 I have not=0A> > tried to cycle this thing muc= h, for fear of trashing=0A> > something further, but I did at least try one= =0A> reboot.=A0=0A> > Same issue.=0A> > =0A> > (and yes, I'll be researchin= g this myself, but I=0A> thought=0A> > I'd get this message out there soone= r rather than=0A> later...)=0A> > =0A> > Rich Mahlerwein=0A> =0A> I'm redoi= ng the whole process in single user mode.=A0 My=0A> guess is I goofed somet= hing during mergemaster and devd.conf=0A> is messed up.=A0 (Mergemaster is,= undeniably, my least=0A> favorite utility).=A0 =0A> =0A> I can suffer the = system being down for a while, as long as=0A> my wife has access to a handf= ul of files.=A0 =0A> =0A> How would I go about mounting a USB stick, if suc= h can be=0A> done in single-user mode?=A0 =0A> =0A> I have several sitting = around that I could copy stuff to=0A> (I'm sure that's easier than pulling = off the backup I made=0A> last night, since the backup is in dump format on= tape, and=0A> since my only bsd box is currently not working...)=0A=0AI'll= answer my own question: =0Amount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt=0Athen copy aw= ay at will. I suppose my biggest issue had been wondering if that works in= single user mode.=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 17:08:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773F5106564A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from comp.john@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F038FC1F for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:08:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so1630698bwz.43 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:08:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kNHGI83tSQaSe3BaBTvWyevsihgwqRPVhNdXMgbhyE4=; b=SP8+h9jw3UGY6NxyrS9SopeRNFktRkItP02eAz1tlw4M2NwmchZEFAUExX1Rc+rbnO 6J89TtV8vyLTOWUE7pYKlsure1EzRBdyyz+0MQP6mox4tUqXc99KlOLt6NIJMDzKaJLZ b3R6KSsQ2KgfnK/boMmFgTmdewNHM1n7umQYE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=vpY3EtVeV43UCPQBmAzdoJFqxb0BQgyOcQttUfTViBcIR/pwLUZV/aye3z2+cVBuVO r0NucFVhs6HfmFqKb7sR75ssJX8re1j/Rn3O/49RBI1gszpuPAvc0juZn49+LpHreB1F Y1CjJtkTAZxHe32XKkbMA4TEV4ESBqO60fESw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.127.4 with SMTP id e4mr653099fas.100.1249837693494; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:08:13 +0100 Message-ID: From: "John ." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: serial console on a machine without a serial port, but with a USB port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:08:15 -0000 I need to have access to the console on my server, so that I can do stuff like grab the output of a crash or, if it halts whilst booting up, to take remedial action. I had planned on doing this from a much older machine whose sole function is to provide that capability. This older machine will be remotely accessible, and it sits next to the server machine, on its own real IP address, running ssh and maybe tip or whatever to read the console of the other machine. Sort of like a poor man's ILO. The problem is, the server is a much newer machine and it has no serial port - just USB. Is the only way round this to install a serial card? Would a serial-to-usb converter work? Will usb to usb work? Both machines have USB. on the server machine with a generic kernel (7.2-STABLE), I have this: dmesg | grep -E "^sio[0-9]" sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FILTER] sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FILTER] sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled and /dev has no sio* entries cheers -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 17:18:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EBF0106566B for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f217.google.com (mail-gx0-f217.google.com [209.85.217.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B698FC16 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:18:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk17 with SMTP id 17so3094493gxk.19 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:18:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:cc; bh=wDx8sbNiHXSzJv8zE5lXAxOuNuL1QkzSLw6WCM88mYM=; b=UekP0QC34rECXSGoJGyPhrM/4HNG/Fa4KfZdrtAypJzOQ4MB97zasutTvJWdE92g5p bDUnd6auTTLGuNqMzmcIgfwPbSgOAuoXR4tvx410iL3YYw2eVnbzvoaSY9l03j3QslMx vaH1ocyIgXapXkhw37d95qJ2RrKGRH0JCSp0A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date:cc; b=lZGimtiXDeC+k3vDF4VkakWJe9d82v9CK5HztabrB81Pr0TCHsUhFNncJ0GBvoRuQy PMLBVvpSOj+fsUY1c6tDvl8429HIlXMiHhQZHuHH652BuQqRtIDqtJ6tFKm0ceqDbTPJ 3o0CM8yvT2UYoQR6XqsLCaGH/cS2GC+hq9OQg= Received: by 10.90.69.13 with SMTP id r13mr3181783aga.53.1249838298360; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.213.187.200? ([166.137.6.140]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm8791793agc.59.2009.08.09.10.18.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:18:17 -0700 (PDT) References: <4A7ED26E.2030306@gmx.net> Message-Id: <7CC8BF71-9317-42AB-BA5F-AE8B4494EA57@gmail.com> From: Daniel Underwood To: =?utf-8?Q?Elias_Sch=C3=A4fer?= In-Reply-To: <4A7ED26E.2030306@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A400) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A400) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:18:04 -0400 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD MATLAB R2008b X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:18:19 -0000 Elias, I got to a certain point, then temporarily put it aside. See, I was =20 installing from a custom install disc, and so I'm not really surprised =20= that the Handbook instructions for installing matlab on freebsd didn't =20= completely help me. However, I now have a standard install disc. I plan to retry the =20 install with this new disc. I "do" think I encountered java-related errors, but I can't recall the =20= details or whether it's what you're encountering. I'll reply to the list here once I attempt the install tomorrow. (Sent from my iPhone) On Aug 9, 2009, at 9:43 AM, Elias Sch=C3=A4fer =20= wrote: > Hello Daniel, > > I read your post = (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-July/202242.htm= l=20 > ) and applied your patch. First, it seemed to work (no sse2 =20 > complaining) but then I got an Java related error that I could not =20 > solve. I have R14 running here, but I need to run a newer version. I =20= > am curious if you got MATLAB r2008b working. Do you get a similar =20 > error? I am looking for a solution for the past couple of days. > > regards > > Elias > (Aug 08, 2009 21:15:12)MATHWORKS ACTIVATION IS STARTING UP. > (Aug 08, 2009 21:15:13)java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /usr/home/=20 > knick/matlabr2008b/bin/glnx86/libinstutil.so: libstdc++.so.6: cannot =20= > handle TLS data > com.mathworks.instutil.NativeUtility.(NativeUtility.java:36) > com.mathworks.instutil.MachineInfo.(MachineInfo.java:40) > = com.mathworks.activationclient.model.ActivationModelImpl.loadNativeLib(=20= > ActivationModelImpl.java:216) > = com.mathworks.activationclient.model.ActivationModelImpl.getMachineInfo(=20= > ActivationModelImpl.java:189) > = com.mathworks.activationclient.view.ApplicationViewImpl.getMachineInfo(=20= > ApplicationViewImpl.java:200) > com.mathworks.activationclient.view.ApplicationViewImpl.showGUI=20 > (ApplicationViewImpl.java:79) > = com.mathworks.activationclient.controller.ApplicationControllerImpl.start(= =20 > ApplicationControllerImpl.java:99) > com.mathworks.activationclient.ActivationApplication.main=20 > (ActivationApplication.java:31) > > (Aug 08, 2009 21:15:13)null > com.mathworks.activationclient.view.ApplicationViewImpl.showGUI=20 > (ApplicationViewImpl.java:79) > = com.mathworks.activationclient.controller.ApplicationControllerImpl.start(= =20 > ApplicationControllerImpl.java:99) > com.mathworks.activationclient.ActivationApplication.main=20 > (ActivationApplication.java:31) > > (Aug 08, 2009 21:15:24)There was an unexpected exception: > > null > > See the log file (/tmp/aws.log) for more details. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 17:18:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD6A106566C for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:18:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879138FC24 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1MaC2k-0000bU-HU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:18:50 +0000 Received: from 220.85-200-86.bkkb.no ([85.200.86.220]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:18:50 +0000 Received: from solskogen by 220.85-200-86.bkkb.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:18:50 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christer Solskogen Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:18:35 +0200 Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 220.85-200-86.bkkb.no User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090715 Thunderbird/3.0b3 In-Reply-To: Sender: news Subject: Re: sftp + chrooting users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:18:54 -0000 On 8/9/09 4:29 PM, Stefan Miklosovic wrote: > hi all, > > I am about chrooting ftp users into theirs home > directories. I've following in the end of /etc/ssh/sshd_config > > Subsystem sftp internal-sftp > > Match group ftp > ChrootDirectory /home > X11Forwarding no > AllowTcpForwarding no > ForceCommand internal-sftp > I have this in my sshd_config: Match Group sftponly ChrootDirectory /usr/home/%u X11Forwarding no AllowTcpForwarding no ForceCommand internal-sftp But also note that the user(which is in the sftponly group) have / as his home directory. -- chs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 17:49:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5772C106566C for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from web35608.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35608.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1B948FC22 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:49:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 34455 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Aug 2009 17:49:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249840198; bh=MREu2yteYLV3o7QS0mMgC1K8xv4jqB6YYY5qum7okoI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rrlFFzvqZ6EVnaLRjx1XhFQ7T25u8SrBXNeUUoF9KGqmjIm0y8D2aGORIAzHFZkU1Pgl/slFOgTzi7usZYqnEX2ysFYzsXPIYGRKRDjS8De68OeprIQZi+zdZ7CuERyfkNpiBN7xXV3YrOAf+b+7fMu0r5JXIdXtQH6r88jw2SE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JgxFT0W7gh2+ENwjO7+Ze3XY1qJnwbmtG2MsEs8v124DdOQVan9B995DAQ9f4AgsAO28kN+LxXOeZ52toNJfneCMimLnpBHGbgYe45oZy+HfVAnbE76bvZxTmmMWxJgek191vLPuwky3l5dYnnoIgdRCH2VKGtLeDRAOrZeZrQ4=; Message-ID: <273022.34170.qm@web35608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: sxfoi_0VM1nNx2ttonPbguCaqgYOhCkzOYnPy4AcYctElRvkSKvuNvpHRkzHPhWMNuPbeyc42d3ThApyADd6OGJV8nRJT_C0VfpQSeHHYSnKVqKO4a4_VnK7AEB12BaPDfqxzW4JsAhef3ndKgbLGyTcfUgDf0qBu8W3.Ob3nCWVqXXqPDoEet8ha4Zz4Klu_yB4_gJXAc0886bEUQrwCjDAE58L.gSZTQmcAIaxYc3Ka1bVHHrNGkqzRvAwMBBnCiRJ6b94uaE9yBFlL2oOnewyb3W6ci7VOGGbvBWF02ywAe0pEkYmcHTov1QVjSSaP7y8Msfg2pZpiTCA9QikQghjzokhNxbf3yZeFMEqWhZwh9QFXJVOHWlWZ6jcrCc7IVI- Received: from [201.231.61.15] by web35608.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:49:58 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 10:49:58 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: nspluginwrapper freezes Firefox35 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:49:59 -0000 Hi, a couple of days ago I upgraded linux-f8-flashplugin10 and nspluginwrap= per. They seems to work better than before, but them freezes Firefox 3.5 af= twer a while, specially while using yahoo mail (because of its flash banner= s).=0A=0ATo fix it, I have to "killall npviewer.bin".=0A=0AI'm running 7.2 = for i386. Any hint on this?=0A=0ALeonardo M. Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonardorame.b= logspot.com=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 18:31:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F2F106564A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:31:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miklosovic.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24DC8FC1E for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 18:31:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so2799065fxm.36 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 11:31:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=li/lzlPrDD8MIPih+UJA5HDp4LwF0PPc7ZxCAaNAybQ=; b=j5wpF0Pou1MDb8vhPZBhlRYjn2/Rd2rzHw8I/VTDQ8zhau2BOgna83mYuAtZz7j8A9 VMQtw+IgArKUreZHl2ZW/42YTHLBk9kg3ndBqMwxKPlAKFZSRE3hralYKRqZFdeqRtTl JT94kI1PvyaFSk0DzkYwHFZfX4n8ResEKLsFY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=o0Sagb8ZbhigU68HWfoc6o9X9+24FIbZVU/68kuMFIsPezRebf0b99FgsPGFVpD2AO EO+DXAUHPkp9pDnHAhUkjyOsyR2H9rlfkbiE6RYtxk2nMzv3vgFLYfGZAliUhcxQbC1E 0F5b1TmYTX8R6JsUEqDhTn43aV+M7uujct4X8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.168.12 with SMTP id v12mr1508036muo.39.1249842685839; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 11:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:31:25 +0200 Message-ID: From: Stefan Miklosovic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: vsftpd with ssl - compile option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 18:31:28 -0000 hi, I would like to use vsftpd with ssl support. If I install it from ports, there is an option to compile it against ssl librarie(s) (VSFTPD_SSL) If I download it by pkg_fetch and extract the package and use ldd on vsftpd in libexec directory, there is no ssl library, in complied way, there are some. libssl.so.5 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.5 (0x280b0000) libcrypto.so.5 => /lib/libcrypto.so.5 (0x280f1000) I would like to use that program on other computer, but there is not port tree and installing of port tree is really not an option. how to handle this? thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 19:07:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596731065672 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:07:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 178A48FC2E for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so3412346yxe.3 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:07:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pF7J155MIbPXl8hFWnADgGKXdf6TdCFinvAFLBmUaZo=; b=FaJcNFcSU0hF+EOr+t65Hu7loWEuLy9mY1VIimxHIIDyFUUx6vYTqnislzpGwaq0Vy p0Rq1l+Q1sDmOkxtslWaY9sBcZR9iMJ4IKV+yS2PsmWg9VY6+2IuCeA9MpP1DZr5bVGT //4hvTILEchFasbj1+cww0VUSy/gsPN0w8zDY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d/PJp9iIw8XwD1Kasno42rZw8V0lEMBgax0FzKH9me9+N91L35edqC2Lj4pFzdy3HW pd/V2NsPn1hdhIeaIq/CWV9lvxL6sUn62wUObhos4dmhz+QIFjKjZBLEjU5M8Y40nM9o vnL6CuDkJUP57tlv18chdZEtlcjt9waKS+nhg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.46.6 with SMTP id t6mr2399341ant.152.1249844870514; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:07:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:07:50 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Michael Christie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:07:51 -0000 On 8/9/09, Michael Christie wrote: > Hi there all, > > I need your help. I have a supermicro server which was running Freebsd 7.= 1 > with 2 SATA drives. I have had G mirror running on the server. I needed t= o > do a full reinstall of freebsd but was unable to disengage the mirror at = the > time. When installing Freebsd, on to the drives i see i have AD4 AD6 and = AR0 > on the disk label, i have installed the new free bsd in AD4, and the syst= em > would not boot. ar0 is often a cheap onboard RAID device. So cheap as it doesn't even hide ad4 and ad6 which is also hooked up to the motherboard. Installing to ad4 installed it allright. But now the hardware raid will screw things up a bit. Either use gmirror with ad4 and ad6, or use hardware raid on ar0 only. > > > > I have come across this before where i have to remove AR0 to default the > drive, i can remember reading a thread on how to use =93fix it=94 and usi= ng the > live cd. I have google but cannot find it > > Please is there any one here that can refresh my memory and tell me how t= o > remove gmirror from my drives so i can do a fresh install,. > > > > Thanmks > > Mick > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 20:16:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD105106566B for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:16:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3FF8FC1A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:16:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.89]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SJ2k1c00K1vXlb858LGi0p; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:16:42 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SLL31c0021f6R9u3dLL4rV; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:20:05 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:16:39 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:16:39 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090809201639.GG4339@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090806120011.8528A106567E@hub.freebsd.org> <182370.92452.qm@web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <20090808164600.GA11570@kokopelli.hydra> <20090808195518.7eb8e5ee.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090809135230.GA21588@kokopelli.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090809135230.GA21588@kokopelli.hydra> X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: > upgrade 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:16:43 -0000 On Sun 09 Aug 2009 at 06:52:31 PDT Chad Perrin wrote: > >An info page is almost as bad as nothing, as far as I'm concerned. The >GNU project has this bizarre idea that everybody in the world should use >everything it produces and *nothing else*, no matter how painful it all >is to use -- and assumes everybody should be using emacs, so obviously >the baroque emacs-inspired interface to info pages is "ideal". It has always puzzled me that Stallman set out to implement a Unix-like operating system and userland, when his roots seem to have been elsewhere. Sometimes I think he must have had a grudge against Unix and that he deliberately set out to pervert it. That would certainly explain some of the more bizarre things coming from GNU! Never forget, vi was created by the same guy who put together the original tapes of the Berkeley Software Distribution. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 20:43:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC8E106566B for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:43:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0078FC1A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F9F7E818; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 12:42:59 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 12:42:58 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <2097B988-0F1B-4F60-812D-71F6AB2C17CA@charter.net> <200908082038.51127.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <2A95E0AE-73DF-48F5-87E6-32683FE5AA8C@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <2A95E0AE-73DF-48F5-87E6-32683FE5AA8C@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_STzfK8koMaT+8zr" Message-Id: <200908091242.58470.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: APR maintainer , Charles Howse , Maintainer Subject: Re: mod_security 2.5.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:43:01 -0000 --Boundary-00=_STzfK8koMaT+8zr Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 09 August 2009 04:24:37 Charles Howse wrote: > On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:38 PM, Mel Flynn wrote: > > On Saturday 08 August 2009 19:38:42 Charles Howse wrote: > >> On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Mel Flynn wrote: > >>> On Saturday 08 August 2009 08:00:47 Charles Howse wrote: > >>>> Just wondering if anyone has tried updating from mod_security 2.5.9 > >>>> to > >>>> 2.5.9_1 via portupgrade. > >>>> It fails with a "linker error" for me. > >>> > >>> And can we see the actual linker error? > >> > >> Thought I had included enough in my original post. > >> Here's the mod_security part of 'portupgrade -a' > >> > >> ... > >> [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 51 > >> packages found (-0 +1) . done] > >> ---> Upgrading 'mod_security-2.5.9' to 'mod_security-2.5.9_1' (www/ > >> mod_security) > >> ---> Building '/usr/ports/www/mod_security' > > > > ... > > > >> checking for libapr config script... /usr/local/bin/apr-1-config > >> configure: using ' -lcrypt -pthread' for apr Library > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > >> /usr/local/share/apr/build-1/libtool --silent --mode=link cc -o > >> mod_security2.la -R/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/ > >> lib - > >> L/usr/local/lib -lpcre -lxml2 -lz -liconv -lm -rpath /usr/local/ > >> libexec/apache22 -module -avoid-version msc_release.lo msc_lua.lo > >> acmp.lo msc_geo.lo pdf_protect.lo msc_reqbody.lo persist_dbm.lo > >> msc_pcre.lo msc_util.lo msc_parsers.lo modsecurity.lo > >> msc_multipart.lo > >> msc_xml.lo msc_logging.lo re_variables.lo re_tfns.lo re_actions.lo > >> re_operators.lo re.lo apache2_util.lo apache2_io.lo apache2_config.lo > >> mod_security2.lo > >> # XXX there is "mlogc-static" target in the Makefile, too > >> cd /usr/ports/www/mod_security/work/modsecurity-apache_2.5.9/apache2 > >> && /usr/bin/env SHELL=/bin/sh NO_LINT=YES PREFIX=/usr/local > >> LOCALBASE=/usr/local X11BASE=/usr/local MOTIFLIB="-L/usr/local/lib - > >> lXm -lXp" LIBDIR="/usr/lib" CC="cc" CFLAGS="-O2 -fno-strict- > >> aliasing - > >> pipe" CXX="c++" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe" > >> MANPREFIX="/ > >> usr/local" BSD_INSTALL_PROGRAM="install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555" > >> BSD_INSTALL_SCRIPT="install -o root -g wheel -m 555" > >> BSD_INSTALL_DATA="install -o root -g wheel -m 444" > >> BSD_INSTALL_MAN="install -o root -g wheel -m 444" make -f Makefile > >> mlogc > >> > >> Building dynamically linked mlogc... > >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_yield' > >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to > >> `pthread_attr_destroy' > >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_create' > >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to > >> `pthread_attr_init' > >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_exit' > >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_equal' > >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_detach' > >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to > >> `pthread_attr_setstacksize' > >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to > >> `pthread_attr_getdetachstate' > >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to > >> `pthread_attr_setguardsize' > >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to > >> `pthread_attr_setdetachstate' > >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_join' > >> /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to > >> `pthread_cond_timedwait' > >> *** Error code 1 > > > > Apparently -pthread isn't passed here. I've tried to reproduce this, > > but I > > can't. Could you show the output of: > > make -C /usr/ports/www/mod_security actual-package-depends > > root@curly /root# make -C /usr/ports/www/mod_security actual-package- > depends > pcre-7.9:devel/pcre > apr-gdbm-db42-1.3.8.1.3.9:devel/apr > curl-7.19.5_1:ftp/curl > libxml2-2.7.3:textproc/libxml2 > apache-2.2.11_7:www/apache22 > pkg-config-0.23_1:devel/pkg-config > expat-2.0.1:textproc/expat2 > gdbm-1.8.3_3:databases/gdbm > db42-4.2.52_5:databases/db42 > libiconv-1.13.1:converters/libiconv > ca_root_nss-3.11.9_2:security/ca_root_nss > pkg-config-0.23_1:devel/pkg-config > libiconv-1.13.1:converters/libiconv > expat-2.0.1:textproc/expat2 > perl-5.8.9_3:lang/perl5.8 > pcre-7.9:devel/pcre > libiconv-1.13.1:converters/libiconv > root@curly /root# > > > Also the contents of /var/db/ports/apr/options. > > root@curly /root# cat /var/db/ports/apr/options > # This file is auto-generated by 'make config'. > # No user-servicable parts inside! > # Options for apr-gdbm-db42-1.3.3.1.3.4_1 > _OPTIONS_READ=apr-gdbm-db42-1.3.3.1.3.4_1 > WITH_THREADS=true > WITHOUT_IPV6=true > WITH_GDBM=true > WITH_BDB=true > WITHOUT_NDBM=true > WITHOUT_LDAP=true > WITHOUT_MYSQL=true > WITHOUT_PGSQL=true Ok, reproduced in a clean jail on a 6.4-p6 box, amd64. I tried setting WITH_THREADS in www/apache22 options (built without first), but that didn't change anything. I built apache22 with defaults + APR_FROM_PORTS. On the working machine (7.1) I see no mention of pthread in the mlogc makefile either, so perhaps the linker got smarter in 7.x. I've attached a patch that fixes the issue. @maintainers: do you want a PR for this? -- Mel --Boundary-00=_STzfK8koMaT+8zr Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; name="patch-www::mod_security.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="patch-www::mod_security.txt" --- Makefile.orig 2009-08-05 12:31:21.000000000 -0800 +++ Makefile 2009-08-09 12:34:34.000000000 -0800 @@ -47,6 +47,9 @@ SUB_FILES+= pkg-message.rules .if defined(WITH_MLOGC) PLIST_FILES+= bin/mlogc +.if ${OSVERSION} < 700000 +EXTRA_PATCHES+= ${FILESDIR}/extra-patch-fix-6.x-link +.endif .endif PLIST_DIRS+= ${APACHEETCDIR}/Includes/mod_security2/optional_rules PLIST_DIRS+= ${APACHEETCDIR}/Includes/mod_security2 --- /dev/null 2009-08-09 12:37:23.000000000 -0800 +++ files/extra-patch-fix-6.x-link 2009-08-09 12:25:33.000000000 -0800 @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +--- mlogc-src/Makefile.in.orig 2008-09-02 23:10:36.000000000 +0000 ++++ mlogc-src/Makefile.in 2009-08-09 20:24:50.000000000 +0000 +@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ + MLOGC_VERSION = `grep '^\#define *VERSION ' mlogc.c | sed 's/.*VERSION *"\([^"]*\)"/\1/'` + + APR_FLAGS = @APR_CFLAGS@ +-APR_LIBS = @APR_LINK_LD@ ++APR_LIBS = @APR_LINK_LD@ @APR_LIBS@ + + CURL_FLAGS = @CURL_CFLAGS@ + CURL_LIBS = @CURL_LIBS@ --Boundary-00=_STzfK8koMaT+8zr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 21:35:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AB8106564A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:35:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014BF8FC0A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so2329779qyk.3 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:35:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YPc7BUfXDprUw7u709Mkc4fmyCVy15pvKA2uNdQF+tA=; b=Nd95T8zWnVrWpwrSvmXAXJyk0QpQ5WrAcVvryA0WVskCrVcutjA/zyCoCJBdhxQytg 8wrMei/EEj1j2kiZd1pq4zzGwolCOp/jEaV/YDzrFFrUzo5VLUWHQPdBPfkr4g52tEFf QN2GOhbV+qZQ3iEhthFco0JdnMzVVYZpRnHwE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eZFyLZ2AxcVsZkAPi/th05KbyccXTdHUIhfhrU3f7itIYlxfVYbGXOnL2kG1z9O9Y7 UelPgcIvKPvihPW6pyJQbrFJ4oYCHWGo8sA4Z0/3p4Qb7rPAPAiBHbe/+JOsMhn218Zb mBoz7MzAyrDwkVIDW+wO4o9aBg0YTo+nl+/YM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.81.144 with SMTP id x16mr1100422qck.69.1249853751107; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:35:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <273022.34170.qm@web35608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <273022.34170.qm@web35608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 16:35:51 -0500 Message-ID: <11167f520908091435ue49f754j2c02c2b62919255d@mail.gmail.com> From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nspluginwrapper freezes Firefox35 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:35:53 -0000 On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Leonardo M. Ram=E9 w= rote: > Hi, a couple of days ago I upgraded linux-f8-flashplugin10 and nspluginwr= apper. They seems to work better than before, but them freezes Firefox 3.5 = aftwer a while, specially while using yahoo mail (because of its flash bann= ers). > > To fix it, I have to "killall npviewer.bin". > > I'm running 7.2 for i386. Any hint on this? > > Leonardo M. Ram=E9 > http://leonardorame.blogspot.com I can also confirm this, linux-f10-flashplugin10 and nspluginwrapper on FreeBSD 8 beta2 i386 hangs Firefox 3.5 on citibankcards.com but this is Better than before. Sam Fourman Jr. Fourman Networks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 21:41:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4049F1065708 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jochen@daten-chaos.de) Received: from mail20321.bummi-net.de (mail20321.bummi-net.de [84.19.173.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050EA8FC1F for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:41:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from donald.home.jochen-neumeister.de (dslb-084-061-195-070.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.61.195.70]) by mail20321.bummi-net.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB226B7403 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:41:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:41:30 +0200 From: Jochen Neumeister To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090809234130.1501b4f4@donald.home.jochen-neumeister.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: eclipse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:41:33 -0000 Build error on FreeBSD 8 BETA2: Copying plugins/org.eclipse.update.core.linux.source into plugins/org.eclipse.update.core.freebsd.source Copying plugins/org.eclipse.swt/Eclipse SWT PI/gtk/library/make_linux.mak into plugins/org.eclipse.swt/Eclipse SWT PI/gtk/library/make_freebsd.mak Copying plugins/org.eclipse.core.net.freebsd.x86 into plugins/org.eclipse.core.net.freebsd.x86_64 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for eclipse-3.4.2_1 Ignoring previously applied (or reversed) patch. 1 out of 1 hunks ignored--saving rejects to assemble.org.eclipse.sdk.all.xml.rej => Patch patch-assemble.org.eclipse.sdk.all.xml failed to apply cleanly. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/java/eclipse. All Ports are up-to-date Thanks Jochen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 21:45:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DEF106566C for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:45:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vk3mrc@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f217.google.com (mail-gx0-f217.google.com [209.85.217.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927FD8FC20 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk17 with SMTP id 17so3186977gxk.19 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:45:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=bierIxn4lOc8G2zLkU7vZE6WiYtUDdltW8uUIF/D3jo=; b=iwM1p6PLXlCM4aCgoYuF/FKJ41fDgEDm5OFTH0G3dxIfNxpZQbT2DWMWl099mf8xDd grtnHV5+CnGYOxt38K0zFHPTbIXjkaF6f7relBUE1LCyiI6J5whYU11SIoi8AGY34lQK GPl5qxph0T2gKboWE/PC2jQVsvR3RjFrF3SR4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=PGtyNiIYe1BgccaJKNwqqTEQTYtbFhqvMs5AEqUCvbJUTr5bVNhgUArfvsekVTcDZ9 zDybYiVr5EVwhBFVzTPRvp7P2i8BUlh31qmzjZvZe39YFDfQT8ovtx/KtcH4ToscI2AS qJ0fo/xTt9WmACWvD6RZuq9qBQ/ClDJ4qAekU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.158.3 with SMTP id k3mr6897650ybo.218.1249854344692; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:45:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:45:44 +1000 Message-ID: From: Michael Christie To: Tim Judd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:45:46 -0000 Yes you are right , I would like to clean off the drives, defalt and clean, then reformat. and reinstall, i did see a post some where on how to do it with the fixit cd, but can not find it now. any idears ? Thanks Mick On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 5:07 AM, Tim Judd wrote: > On 8/9/09, Michael Christie wrote: > > Hi there all, > > > > I need your help. I have a supermicro server which was running Freebsd > 7.1 > > with 2 SATA drives. I have had G mirror running on the server. I needed > to > > do a full reinstall of freebsd but was unable to disengage the mirror a= t > the > > time. When installing Freebsd, on to the drives i see i have AD4 AD6 an= d > AR0 > > on the disk label, i have installed the new free bsd in AD4, and the > system > > would not boot. > > > ar0 is often a cheap onboard RAID device. So cheap as it doesn't even > hide ad4 and ad6 which is also hooked up to the motherboard. > > Installing to ad4 installed it allright. But now the hardware raid > will screw things up a bit. > > Either use gmirror with ad4 and ad6, or use hardware raid on ar0 only. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have come across this before where i have to remove AR0 to default th= e > > drive, i can remember reading a thread on how to use =93fix it=94 and u= sing > the > > live cd. I have google but cannot find it > > > > Please is there any one here that can refresh my memory and tell me how > to > > remove gmirror from my drives so i can do a fresh install,. > > > > > > > > Thanmks > > > > Mick > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 23:12:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDDD106566B for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C2F8FC1A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:12:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DF31CC1A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:12:25 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4A7F57D9.20405@hdk5.net> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:12:25 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: .cshrc History missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:12:26 -0000 Aloha, I have been trying the new FreeBSD 8 Current, Head and Beta* on an AMD64 box with 2 CPU's. The OS loads and everything works under all versions including i386, but the key stroke history on csh does not survive over a reboot or shutdown. I have never seen this happen before and I have been using FreeBSD for a very long time.. since FreeBSD 2.* . Anyone have any ideas what I should check for either with hardware or in .cshrc or elsewhere? Thanks... ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 23:19:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E1F106564A for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAFE8FC08 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:19:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-59-134.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.59.134]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009E43CE2E; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:19:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n79NIvOm002689; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:18:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:18:57 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Al Plant Message-Id: <20090810011857.abc6eecd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4A7F57D9.20405@hdk5.net> References: <4A7F57D9.20405@hdk5.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: .cshrc History missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:19:05 -0000 Allthough I'm not familiar with the particular problem you described, I observed that the history sometimes (!) does not survive a reboot. It may have to do with a situation where more than one shell is running. Idea: The last shell closed (even forced) saves its history, so the history of the other shells gets lost. I've set those globally in /etc/csh.cshrc: set history = 100 set savehist = 100 Sometimes, history survives, sometimes it doesn't. Very strange... -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 9 23:30:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A827B1065670 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5818FC20 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6C31CC1E; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 13:30:35 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4A7F5C1C.6000600@hdk5.net> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:30:36 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4A7F57D9.20405@hdk5.net> <20090810011857.abc6eecd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090810011857.abc6eecd.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: .cshrc History missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:30:37 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > Allthough I'm not familiar with the particular problem you > described, I observed that the history sometimes (!) does > not survive a reboot. It may have to do with a situation > where more than one shell is running. Idea: The last shell > closed (even forced) saves its history, so the history of > the other shells gets lost. > > I've set those globally in /etc/csh.cshrc: > > set history = 100 > set savehist = 100 > > Sometimes, history survives, sometimes it doesn't. Very > strange... > > > Aloha Poly, I'm glad to have somebody confirm this. I thought it was funny that this was happening. I have earlier CURRENT 8 running on a couple of machines and they never acted this way. This is root that is doing this on my test box. set history = 100 set savehistory = 100 are in the .cshrc file. I'll look in /etc/csh.cshrc Thanks... ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 00:19:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C4C106564A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:19:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from mtumishi.cyberleo.net (mtumishi.cyberleo.net [69.72.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1328B8FC20 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:19:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.14] (unknown [71.155.238.213]) by mtumishi.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E08641963E; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:01:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4A7F6368.4090806@cyberleo.net> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:01:44 -0500 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090627) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Miklosovic References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vsftpd with ssl - compile option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:19:55 -0000 Stefan Miklosovic wrote: > hi, > > I would like to use vsftpd with ssl support. > If I install it from ports, there is an option to > compile it against ssl librarie(s) (VSFTPD_SSL) > If I download it by pkg_fetch and extract the package > and use ldd on vsftpd in libexec directory, > there is no ssl library, in complied way, there are some. > > libssl.so.5 => /usr/lib/libssl.so.5 (0x280b0000) > libcrypto.so.5 => /lib/libcrypto.so.5 (0x280f1000) > > I would like to use that program on other computer, but there > is not port tree and installing of port tree is really not an option. Build it as you want it on another machine using ports, then run on that build machine: pkg_create -b -R This will turn the selected install (and all its dependencies, with the -R flag) into tbz packages in the current directory suitable for pkg_add on the target machine. If there are any missing dependencies on the target machine, pkg_add will try to load them from the same directory from which you are adding the main package. If they do not exist, it will most likely fail, so you will likely want to copy over everything that pkg_create spits out, unless you know it's already installed and up to date on your target. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 02:32:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5708D1065672 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDCD8FC30 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090810023155.DJTD3344.mta21.charter.net@imp09> for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:31:55 -0400 Received: from larry.local ([24.176.107.74]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id SSXv1c00G1cLRPc05SXveZ; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:31:55 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=df60MU08WBzdt17a6PoA:9 a=pgJQ22dZ-K2L8e0bcR8A:7 a=AingScrgp78QPy7fDUwr4O4fQAIA:4 Message-Id: <66AC013D-8CC8-4558-A23A-83FA5BB7FFF1@charter.net> From: Charles Howse To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <200908091242.58470.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:31:55 -0500 References: <2097B988-0F1B-4F60-812D-71F6AB2C17CA@charter.net> <200908082038.51127.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <2A95E0AE-73DF-48F5-87E6-32683FE5AA8C@charter.net> <200908091242.58470.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: Re: mod_security 2.5.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:32:10 -0000 On Aug 9, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Mel Flynn wrote: > I've attached a patch that fixes the issue. Whoops, looks like I've stepped in over my head. Exactly how do I use this patch? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 05:12:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F266106564A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39208FC15 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FE57E818 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:12:51 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 21:12:50 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <2097B988-0F1B-4F60-812D-71F6AB2C17CA@charter.net> <200908091242.58470.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <66AC013D-8CC8-4558-A23A-83FA5BB7FFF1@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <66AC013D-8CC8-4558-A23A-83FA5BB7FFF1@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908092112.50413.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Subject: Re: mod_security 2.5.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:12:52 -0000 On Sunday 09 August 2009 18:31:55 Charles Howse wrote: > On Aug 9, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Mel Flynn wrote: > > I've attached a patch that fixes the issue. > > > Whoops, looks like I've stepped in over my head. > Exactly how do I use this patch? > cd /usr/ports/www/mod_security patch < /path/to/patch make build You can also not use the patch and do: cd /usr/ports/www/mod_security make patch cd `make -V WRKSRC` sed -i.orig -e 's,@APR_LD_LINK@,@APR_LD_LINK@ @ARP_LIBS@,' \ mlogc-src/Makefile.in cd /usr/ports/www/mod_security make build But that only works one time. The patch fixes the port so that it works every time. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 06:02:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497D4106564A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:02:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04788FC20 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:02:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7A629Db016733; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:02:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n7A629Db016733 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1249884135; bh=NwvFXA+imB4v1wWETNiMl6iJiWeHpCmwyfYHwK+iNLc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4A7FB7DB.4020708@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2010=20Aug=202009=2007:02:03=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.22=20(X11/20090724)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Al=20Plant=20|CC:=20Polytropon=20,=20=0D=0A=20"freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"=20|Subject:=20Re:=20.cshrc=20=20History= 20missing|References:=20<4A7F57D9.20405@hdk5.net>=09<2009081001185 7.abc6eecd.freebsd@edvax.de>=20<4A7F5C1C.6000600@hdk5.net>|In-Repl y-To:=20<4A7F5C1C.6000600@hdk5.net>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|C ontent-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A= 20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"-- ----------enig28E859301FB33428F0B3869A"; b=ZgWH2zb3FN0dPLgTlMvgZjyEc2zRIy1FlK5nB51y/jnsbIZ5HuJgF0G1T6/U3ioEe DwsLhaYUMA55E7f/+PvjB8rK2mnReTSt5+Go2qxDjfyUqRHM4PRVXz9qdKpAw+lCUT HStL1AGjMJ0iHvPbCCmN1mQCdw32Xi4gxguj0Gmk= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <4A7FB7DB.4020708@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:02:03 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Al Plant References: <4A7F57D9.20405@hdk5.net> <20090810011857.abc6eecd.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A7F5C1C.6000600@hdk5.net> In-Reply-To: <4A7F5C1C.6000600@hdk5.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig28E859301FB33428F0B3869A" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: .cshrc History missing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:02:22 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig28E859301FB33428F0B3869A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Al Plant wrote: > Polytropon wrote: >> Allthough I'm not familiar with the particular problem you >> described, I observed that the history sometimes (!) does >> not survive a reboot. It may have to do with a situation >> where more than one shell is running. Idea: The last shell >> closed (even forced) saves its history, so the history of >> the other shells gets lost. >> >> I've set those globally in /etc/csh.cshrc: >> >> set history =3D 100 >> set savehist =3D 100 >> >> Sometimes, history survives, sometimes it doesn't. Very >> strange... >> >> >> > Aloha Poly, >=20 > I'm glad to have somebody confirm this. I thought it was funny that thi= s=20 > was happening. >=20 > I have earlier CURRENT 8 running on a couple of machines and they never= =20 > acted this way. >=20 > This is root that is doing this on my test box. > set history =3D 100 > set savehistory =3D 100 > are in the .cshrc file. >=20 > I'll look in /etc/csh.cshrc >=20 > Thanks... Yeah. The history mechanism in tcsh doesn't cope very well with multiple= =20 ttys being closed down at once, as you tend to find when logging out of a= n X session. You get the history from just one of those shells.=20 It's not a complete cure, but telling the shell to merge it's history wit= h what's already there: set history =3D 500 set savehist =3D (1000 merge) This helps, but it is not completely reliable when several shells are shu= tdown in quick succession. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig28E859301FB33428F0B3869A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkp/t+EACgkQ8Mjk52CukIx7igCghEMNFOQDlYbCBfWK+4NsZSSL u2IAn1hzKXoUajbcG62TR6p7Es1EP0my =VV3f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig28E859301FB33428F0B3869A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 08:09:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0871065687 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:09:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anton@sng.by) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AB78FC1F for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:09:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so2820225ewy.43 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.138.3 with SMTP id l3mr1224818ebd.20.1249891742329; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ROOT (port-103-adslby-pool46.infonet.by [81.25.46.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm10515561eyx.23.2009.08.10.01.09.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:09:12 +0300 From: Anton X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.71.01) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1964849985.20090810110912@sng.by> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Constantly getting this error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Anton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:09:04 -0000 Hello freebsd-questions, acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, 7ff00000 (3) failed Some google does not said anything on it... But, one box (Pentium D, 1024 MB RAM, no sound) sometimes crashes withou= t any visible problems Another box (Athlon 3000+ AM2, 1024 MB RAM) some times does not get on b= y power button -- -- Best regards, Anton = ; [1]mailto:anton@sng.by Administrator Feel free to contact me via ICQ 363780596 via Skype dobryak47 via phone +375 29 3320987 References 1. 3D"mailto:anton@sng.by" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 10:39:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E0D1065672 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mailinglist.ahhyes.net) Received: from mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3AE8FC20 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.104] (c211-30-26-44.rivrw2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.26.44]) by mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7AAd4XW022224 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:39:05 +1000 Message-ID: <4A7FF8CE.5000308@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:39:10 +1000 From: Alex R User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A7FDA9E.6070906@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> In-Reply-To: <4A7FDA9E.6070906@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: installworld fails on 7.2-RELEASE/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:39:09 -0000 Alex R wrote: > > I am in the process of deleting /usr/src and completely csup'ing the > source tree from scratch, and will try another rebuild, however I am > skeptical this will fix anything. > This seems to have fixed it... but why... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 10:42:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE431065672 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mailinglist.ahhyes.net) Received: from fallbackmx06.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E7D8FC16 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:42:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.190]) by fallbackmx06.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7A8UR44027496 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:30:27 +1000 Received: from [192.168.1.104] (c211-30-26-44.rivrw2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.26.44]) by mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7A8UMqi021843 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:30:24 +1000 Message-ID: <4A7FDA9E.6070906@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:30:22 +1000 From: Alex R User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: installworld fails on 7.2-RELEASE/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:42:20 -0000 Hi Guys, Have done tonnes of buildworld's before and never ran into the problem I a having on this new machine. Basically I have csup'd my source tree on a freshly installed 7.2-RELEASE/amd64 box (tracking the 7.2-RELEASE branch). make buildworld -- works ok. make buildkernel KERNCONF=custom -- works ok make installkernel KERNCONF=custom -- works ok Boot into single user mode and do the usual things (mount filesystems etc), mergemaster -p -- works ok. make installworld -- FAIL After a minute of installworld running, it dies with this error. btxld -v -E 0x2000 -f bin -b /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../btx/btx/btx -l boot2.ldr -o boot2.ld -P 1 boot2.bin btxld:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2. *** Error code 1 I have WITHOUT_LIB32 defined in my /etc/src.conf (even undefining this and doing a buildworld from scratch didn't fix it), I also have NO_PROFILE turned on in my /etc/make.conf (as suggested by the FreeBSD handbook on improving build times - has never caused me a problem in the past) Apart from that, everything on the system is stock standard. I did Google this error, but found no definitive solution, one post I found suggested that perhaps the system time/date is wrong or that adjkerntz -i was missed after entering single user mode. This is not the case for me. Time and date is correct while in single or multi user mode. Any ideas on what is causing this problem? I am in the process of deleting /usr/src and completely csup'ing the source tree from scratch, and will try another rebuild, however I am skeptical this will fix anything. Any ideas/suggestions welcomed. Thanks! Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 10:53:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E1E1065670 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:53:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3608FC37 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:53:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1MaSVg-0004Ch-6k; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:53:48 +0400 To: Alex R References: <4A7FDA9E.6070906@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:53:51 +0400 In-Reply-To: <4A7FDA9E.6070906@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> (Alex R.'s message of "Mon\, 10 Aug 2009 18\:30\:22 +1000") Message-ID: <66403456@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installworld fails on 7.2-RELEASE/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:53:50 -0000 On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:30:22 +1000 Alex R wrote: > /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../btx/btx/btx -l boot2.ldr -o > boot2.ld -P 1 boot2.bin > btxld:No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 This error (not only with btxld but with some random file) often occures when the system timer has been changed (imho stepped back) while the system is building/installing world. World rebuilding helps in that case. -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 11:32:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66793106566C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chowse@charter.net) Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 275BF8FC1E for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:32:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090810113157.EZRV22327.mta11.charter.net@imp10>; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:31:57 -0400 Received: from larry.local ([24.176.107.74]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id SbXx1c0031cLRPc05bXxFq; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:31:57 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=KHOC4vZj53SCw1B2qrcA:9 a=djhuVKbkYAjcqjgZ30YA:7 a=T6KGGLiR2JHpbc_OpB0NCYBO3xYA:4 Message-Id: From: Charles Howse To: Mel Flynn In-Reply-To: <200908092112.50413.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:31:56 -0500 References: <2097B988-0F1B-4F60-812D-71F6AB2C17CA@charter.net> <200908091242.58470.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <66AC013D-8CC8-4558-A23A-83FA5BB7FFF1@charter.net> <200908092112.50413.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mod_security 2.5.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:32:03 -0000 On Aug 10, 2009, at 12:12 AM, Mel Flynn wrote: > On Sunday 09 August 2009 18:31:55 Charles Howse wrote: >> On Aug 9, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Mel Flynn wrote: >>> I've attached a patch that fixes the issue. >> >> >> Whoops, looks like I've stepped in over my head. >> Exactly how do I use this patch? >> > > cd /usr/ports/www/mod_security > patch < /path/to/patch > make build Whoops... root@curly /root# cd /usr/ports/www/mod_security root@curly /usr/ports/www/mod_security# patch < /usr/home/charles/ patch-www::mod_security.txt Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- Makefile.orig 2009-08-05 12:31:21.000000000 -0800 |+++ Makefile 2009-08-09 12:34:34.000000000 -0800 -------------------------- Patching file Makefile using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 47. Hmm... The next patch looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |--- /dev/null 2009-08-09 12:37:23.000000000 -0800 |+++ files/extra-patch-fix-6.x-link 2009-08-09 12:25:33.000000000 -0800 -------------------------- (Creating file files/extra-patch-fix-6.x-link...) Patching file files/extra-patch-fix-6.x-link using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 1. done root@curly /usr/ports/www/mod_security# make build ===> Building for mod_security-2.5.9_1 # XXX there is "mlogc-static" target in the Makefile, too cd /usr/ports/www/mod_security/work/modsecurity-apache_2.5.9/apache2 && /usr/bin/env SHELL=/bin/sh NO_LINT=YES PREFIX=/usr/local LOCALBASE=/usr/local X11BASE=/usr/local MOTIFLIB="-L/usr/local/lib - lXm -lXp" LIBDIR="/usr/lib" CC="cc" CFLAGS="-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing - pipe" CXX="c++" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe" MANPREFIX="/ usr/local" BSD_INSTALL_PROGRAM="install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555" BSD_INSTALL_SCRIPT="install -o root -g wheel -m 555" BSD_INSTALL_DATA="install -o root -g wheel -m 444" BSD_INSTALL_MAN="install -o root -g wheel -m 444" make -f Makefile mlogc Building dynamically linked mlogc... /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_yield' /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_attr_destroy' /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_create' /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_attr_init' /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_exit' /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_equal' /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_detach' /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_attr_setstacksize' /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_attr_getdetachstate' /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_attr_setguardsize' /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_attr_setdetachstate' /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_join' /usr/local/lib/libapr-1.so: undefined reference to `pthread_cond_timedwait' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/mod_security/work/modsecurity-apache_2.5.9/ apache2/mlogc-src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/mod_security/work/modsecurity-apache_2.5.9/ apache2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/mod_security. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/mod_security. root@curly /usr/ports/www/mod_security# From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 12:37:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5E2106566C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:37:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=466a9c50a=a@jenisch.at) Received: from mgaterz2.oekb.co.at (mgaterz2.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65088FC1E for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:37:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from exchh1.oekb.co.at ([143.245.3.20]) by mgaterz2.oekb.co.at with ESMTP; 10 Aug 2009 14:07:16 +0200 Received: from vsrv33.oekb.co.at (143.245.2.59) by exchh1.oekb.co.at (143.245.3.20) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.358.0; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:07:16 +0200 Received: from MAIL1.oekb.co.at ([143.245.2.187]) by vsrv33.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:07:16 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at ([143.245.9.16]) by MAIL1.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:07:16 +0200 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7AC7FWM004308 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:07:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7AC7Fxx004307 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:07:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:07:15 +0200 From: Ewald Jenisch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090810120715.GA4044@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Aug 2009 12:07:16.0360 (UTC) FILETIME=[1A3E2080:01CA19B3] Subject: icewm - error during portupgrade / compiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:37:03 -0000 Hi, During a portupgrade done today the upgrade of icewm (/usr/ports/x11-wm/icewm) stopped with the following symptoms: . . . gnome2.cc:25:19: error: gnome.h: No such file or directory gnome2.cc:27:40: error: libgnomevfs/gnome-vfs-init.h: No such file or directory gnome2.cc: In member function 'void GnomeMenu::addEntry(const char*, const char*, int, bool)': gnome2.cc:122: error: 'gnome_pixmap_file' was not declared in this scope gnome2.cc: In function 'int main(int, char**)': gnome2.cc:351: error: 'gnome_vfs_init' was not declared in this scope gmake[1]: *** [gnome2.o] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11-wm/icewm/work/icewm-1.2.37/src' gmake: *** [base] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-wm/icewm. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-wm/icewm. # Even a "make clean; make" in /usr/ports/x11-wm/icewm didn't help - it simply doesn't compile. Has anybody else seen this problems recently? Any know cure? Thanks in advance for your help, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 13:38:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED0E1065675 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:38:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf5.socket.net (mf5b.socket.net [216.106.26.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB7A8FC38 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:38:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.129.40.203] (216.106.12.14.reverse.socket.net [216.106.12.14]) by mf5.socket.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E19647BA for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:38:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: From: Jay Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090809120017.5FC52106570E@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:38:28 -0500 References: <20090809120017.5FC52106570E@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 270, Issue 19 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:38:31 -0000 On Aug 9, 2009, at 7:00 AM, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote: > I had no problems using that command line with GNU tar versions > 1.14 and > 1.22. I'd grab the source and upgrade if I were you: > http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/tar/tar-1.22.tar.gz I upgraded and everything is fine now. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 14:03:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32230106566B for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:03:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01798FC20 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:03:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n7AE0SdL021636 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:00:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n7AE0S84021635 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:00:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:00:28 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090810140028.GA21576@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20090806120011.8528A106567E@hub.freebsd.org> <182370.92452.qm@web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <20090808164600.GA11570@kokopelli.hydra> <20090808195518.7eb8e5ee.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090809135230.GA21588@kokopelli.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090809135230.GA21588@kokopelli.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: > upgrade 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:03:14 -0000 On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 07:52:31AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 07:55:18PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 10:46:00 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > Yeah, I hate that stuff. The GNU project is kind of like the Microsoft > > > of the open source community, that way. > > > > Be happy that there at least is an info manual. In many cases, there > > is NO local documentation, neither in man or info format. The usual > > cases of documentation, often found in different Linusi, but as well > > in some "modern software" on FreeBSD, are: > > - bury the documentation in an arbitrary web location > > - use a Wiki for documentation > > - let the users write the documentation > > - don't document anything. > > An info page is almost as bad as nothing, as far as I'm concerned. The > GNU project has this bizarre idea that everybody in the world should use > everything it produces and *nothing else*, no matter how painful it all > is to use -- and assumes everybody should be using emacs, so obviously > the baroque emacs-inspired interface to info pages is "ideal". > > Debian actually tended to be pretty good at manpage coverage of software > and files on the system, but FreeBSD still manages to do at least > slightly better most of the time -- and, for some reason, few of the > other Linux distributions took advantage of the manpages produced by the > Debian project. The thing I notice is that the FreeBSD man pages are most often relevant for Linux too with only occasional exceptions for less common arguments and features. So, you run whatever Lunix and keep a FreeBSD handy for the documentation. Of course, that begs the question of why even have the Linux at all then, but that isn't the topic of the post. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 14:56:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 343371065670 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:56:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED91B8FC38 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:56:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n7AEuYqq074116 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:56:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7AEuX4E043792 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:56:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7AEuXKc043789; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:56:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:56:32 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Karl Vogel Message-ID: <20090810145631.GC54485@dan.emsphone.com> References: <3F47B447-F165-40CA-8172-1B59594BFBCD@socket.net> <20090809033232.8EE8EB7F0@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090809033232.8EE8EB7F0@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.2, clamav-milter version 0.94.2 on email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:56:35 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GNU Tar and -T option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:56:37 -0000 In the last episode (Aug 08), Karl Vogel said: > >> On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 16:31:48 -0500, > >> Jay Hall said: > > J> Has anyone had any luck using the -T option with GNU tar 1.16.1? I am > J> using the following command line. > J> /usr/local/gtar/bin/tar -c -T filelist -f - | dd of=/dev/nsa1 obs=128k > > I had no problems using that command line with GNU tar versions 1.14 and > 1.22. I'd grab the source and upgrade if I were you: > http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/tar/tar-1.22.tar.gz gnutar 1.22 is in ports, which makes it even easier to test. bsdtar supports the -T option, too, so you shouldn't even need gnutar. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 15:22:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C57106564A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:22:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf5.socket.net (mf5b.socket.net [216.106.26.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BC18FC15 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.129.40.203] (216.106.12.14.reverse.socket.net [216.106.12.14]) by mf5.socket.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE69A62F1E for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:21:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <6206A242-7226-48E3-8D09-A1D3A651F2A8@socket.net> From: Jay Hall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:21:58 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Backup Size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:22:01 -0000 I am sure there is an easy explanation for this, but I cannot find it. I am backing up my /etc directory using the following command. tar -cvf - /etc | dd of=/dev/nsa1 obs=10240 When the command completes, I receive the following message. 3080+0 records in 154+0 records out 1576960 bytes transferred in 0.179921 secs (8764740 bytes/sec) What concerns me is when running du -h /etc, the size of the folder is reported as 1.7M. Is the number of bytes written to the tape less than the reported size of the directory because of the way the files are written to the tape? If so, how can the amount of space used be calculated? Thanks for your help. Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 15:38:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A90106566C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:38:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from identry@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC418FC1F for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so3076495ewy.43 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:38:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ccsG+W8upoCQkUdJhjjLa4qzQHy/kn699n5PCcdFlBY=; b=Gqq+rgGpzG44xylxw6wPk2y/yMMBPgArAd9FxLuH6nKUYS/6ddSogaL8vHFsvtaY8P 1FWV0rDRVgn1iXbt62Nu9GlSXyHAwhLllrYGIJQG3C539qJpIVawd+2V1JqawQgr1Ktd 8IPSAixNFo4eYC9qVZAP4ru0LZcjsI5+qQ2C4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ax9w9i11REguvderla2nnZIf+6uW7N6zNGddiAqq5ewZVazD9iqF6gPyC9x6o3FMka iljzA7q41EZdbYeH8+FpMdec1D6GpjCahJC1F0dmwWAefKayPSw2zbUL3atfF+7FvR4N n6qwZ6e058C64mFSY19HV7P+UDHbcUycoQPIs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.1.202 with SMTP id 52mr1039838wed.15.1249918734609; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:38:54 -0400 Message-ID: <4d4e09680908100838h6d42432fwd0ec9a10d145b809@mail.gmail.com> From: Identry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: toaster or do-it-myself? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jalmberg@identry.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:38:56 -0000 As part of my server recovery operation, I want to split off my mail server onto it's own server. I've never built a mail server before, so I'm debating how to go about it. The old mail server was built with a toaster, and frankly, I knew how to use it, but never understood how it worked. I'm in a hurry to get it up, so I'm tempted to use a toaster again, but I'm worried that I'll spend a lot of time on it, and it won't work because I don't understand what it has installed, etc. I need to use qmail because that's what was used on the old mailserver, and all my backups are in Maildir format. I don't have time to mess around converting all that mail to another format, so that's my one fixed requirement. My first goal is to just get mail working, but ultimately, I'll want spam filtering, a web interface, etc. So, my question: should I use a toaster? And if so, which one? The machine that it will run on will only have two apps on it: mail server and secondary dns (tinydns). Any advice, much appreciate. Thanks: John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 16:18:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E10106566B for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:a80a:1:21f:d0ff:fe22:b8a8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBCE8FC36 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BE02188F for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:18:50 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id StrP2fzvPcK3 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:18:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from roo.honeypot.net (wlan2-104.honeypot.net [10.0.7.104]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3585521882 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:18:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4A804863.3050801@strauser.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:18:43 -0500 From: Kirk Strauser User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: graphics/ImageMagick seemingly not using OpenMP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:18:51 -0000 On my FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE system (from July 29), I'm trying to enable OpenMP for the graphics/ImageMagick port. With the IMAGEMAGICK_OPENMP option set, I get this from "make configure": checking for cc -std=gnu99 option to support OpenMP... (cached) unsupported checking for cc -std=gnu99 option to support OpenMP... -fopenmp If I go on to build it, there's no other mention of OpenMP in the output. What am I doing wrong? -- Kirk Strauser From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 16:25:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31ADD1065670 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:25:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [64.156.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188DC8FC1E for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:25:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eggman.experts-exchange.com (unknown [72.29.180.81]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A52420D39D for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eggman.experts-exchange.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:24:52 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:24:52 -0700 From: Jason To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090810162450.GD55676@eggman.experts-exchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p6 EGGMAN X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: freebsd-update-server, 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:25:14 -0000 Hi. The freebsd-update-server project software hasn't been updated for 7,2, but after making a couple of simple modifications, it seems to work rather well. I am close, but not quiet smoking the cigar of triumph, yet. When it initially builds, I get this error in the output: Fri Aug 7 18:50:56 PDT 2009 Extracting world+src for FreeBSD/amd64 7.2-RELEASE Sun Sep 12 01:51:21 UTC 2010 Building world for FreeBSD/amd64 7.2-RELEASE Sat Sep 11 18:51:30 PDT 2010 Moving components into staging area for FreeBSD/amd64 7.2-RELEASE mv: rename /R/stage/trees to /R/trees/world: No such file or directory Fri Aug 7 18:51:30 PDT 2009 Extracting extra docs for FreeBSD/amd64 7.2-RELEASE tar: could not chdir to '/R/trees/world' I would like to clear these errors up, as well... but... The only code change I have made is adding this to build.subr for the iso fetch. Basically a path change. ISO=${FTP}/ISO-IMAGES-${TARGET}/${RELNUM}/${REL}-${TARGET}-disc1.iso However, it does build. I send the update to my update server, and need to copy latest.ssl and pub.ssl from one of the official update servers from FreeBSD. If I don't do that, I will get this error. freebsd-update fetch Looking up xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx mirrors... none found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.2-RELEASE from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ... invalid signature. No mirrors remaining, giving up. If I do that, I then get to the next step: freebsd-update fetch Looking up xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx mirrors... none found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.2-RELEASE from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ... done. Fetching metadata index... fetch: http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/7.2-RELEASE/amd64/t/14e85c887f8e9ecaef130d50e3d2ddbb3664af22d9e05f652a66219bda5b76ba: Not Found failed. On the update server, I do have this file though under the "t" directory: 4eeb3a30c564302be5e8129e6afdf3477ff316a891b5a4b6c9535947b7a81e28 I am curious why it is requesting the wrong file. Here is my configuration file for 7.2: # SHA256 hash of RELEASE disc1.iso image. export RELH=1ea1f6f652d7c5f5eab7ef9f8edbed50cb664b08ed761850f95f48e86cc71ef5 # Components of the world, source, and kernels export WORLDPARTS="base catpages dict doc games info manpages proflibs" export SOURCEPARTS="base bin contrib crypto etc games gnu include krb5 \ lib libexec release rescue sbin secure share sys tools \ ubin usbin" export KERNELPARTS="generic" # EOL date export EOL=1275289200 Thanks, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 16:25:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 401BD1065698 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:25:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06EC8FC21 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7AGPSOi040571; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:25:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9C57ABA8A; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:25:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:25:28 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Jay Hall Message-ID: <20090810162528.GA49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <6206A242-7226-48E3-8D09-A1D3A651F2A8@socket.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="liOOAslEiF7prFVr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6206A242-7226-48E3-8D09-A1D3A651F2A8@socket.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup Size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:25:31 -0000 --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:21:58AM -0500, Jay Hall wrote: > I am sure there is an easy explanation for this, but I cannot find it. >=20 > I am backing up my /etc directory using the following command. >=20 > tar -cvf - /etc | dd of=3D/dev/nsa1 obs=3D10240 Why are you using dd? Tar was originally built to write to tape: tar -cvf /dev/nsa1 /etc > When the command completes, I receive the following message. >=20 > 3080+0 records in > 154+0 records out > 1576960 bytes transferred in 0.179921 secs (8764740 bytes/sec) >=20 > What concerns me is when running du -h /etc, the size of the folder is = =20 > reported as 1.7M. du rounds sizes up to the filesystem block size, which is 512 bytes by default. So you'll bound to see differences. And see below. =20 > Is the number of bytes written to the tape less than the reported size = =20 > of the directory because of the way the files are written to the =20 > tape? If so, how can the amount of space used be calculated? =20 The fact that you are using tar also plays a part. Tar has some overhead to store information about the files it contains. If you want to know the total size of all files: find /etc -type f -ls | awk \ 'BEGIN {t=3D0; c=3D0}; END {print t " bytes in " c " files"}; {t=3Dt+$7; c+= +}' This returns '1320254 bytes in 362 files' in my case, while the tar/dd combo returns 1617920 bytes. The difference is the overhead for tar. If you really want to check if tar does the right thing, restore the backup= to a different place (e.g. /tmp/etc) and check with diff: # rewind your tape to the correct position (not shown) cd /tmp; tar xvf /dev/nsa1 diff -ru /etc /tmp/etc The diff command should give no output. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqASfgACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUJDACfbU+C7Sengxwhj/gStUvr4Aif zI4AnR/Lk8T+j51fhKnxWQf+kAdKjKdR =8il/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --liOOAslEiF7prFVr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 16:25:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164621065676 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:25:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8DA8FC4C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:25:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n7AGPrN6082314 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:25:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7AGPr2f053911 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:25:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7AGPr4O053889; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:25:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:25:52 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Jay Hall Message-ID: <20090810162552.GD54485@dan.emsphone.com> References: <6206A242-7226-48E3-8D09-A1D3A651F2A8@socket.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6206A242-7226-48E3-8D09-A1D3A651F2A8@socket.net> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.2, clamav-milter version 0.94.2 on email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:25:54 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup Size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:25:55 -0000 In the last episode (Aug 10), Jay Hall said: > I am sure there is an easy explanation for this, but I cannot find it. > > I am backing up my /etc directory using the following command. > > tar -cvf - /etc | dd of=/dev/nsa1 obs=10240 > > When the command completes, I receive the following message. > > 3080+0 records in > 154+0 records out > 1576960 bytes transferred in 0.179921 secs (8764740 bytes/sec) > > What concerns me is when running du -h /etc, the size of the folder is > reported as 1.7M. > > Is the number of bytes written to the tape less than the reported size of > the directory because of the way the files are written to the tape? If > so, how can the amount of space used be calculated? du prints the number of disk blocks used by a directory tree. Your filesystem probably was formatted with 16k blocks and 2k fragment size; This means that the minimum space du will report for each file is 2k. Tar uses 512-byte blocks internally, so a directory with a lot of small files in it (/etc for example) will take up less space as a tar file than on disk. Try running "du -ha /etc", to see what du reports for each file under /etc. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 17:03:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223631065672 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C818FC34 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7AH2mEQ066890; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:02:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 599C5BA8A; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:02:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:02:48 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: jalmberg@identry.com Message-ID: <20090810170248.GB49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4d4e09680908100838h6d42432fwd0ec9a10d145b809@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4d4e09680908100838h6d42432fwd0ec9a10d145b809@mail.gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: toaster or do-it-myself? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:03:04 -0000 --bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:38:54AM -0400, Identry wrote: > As part of my server recovery operation, I want to split off my mail > server onto it's own server. I've never built a mail server before, so > I'm debating how to go about it. >=20 > The old mail server was built with a toaster, and frankly, I knew how > to use it, but never understood how it worked. I'm in a hurry to get > it up, so I'm tempted to use a toaster again, but I'm worried that > I'll spend a lot of time on it, and it won't work because I don't > understand what it has installed, etc. What exactly do you mean with a toaster? I thought toasters only ran NetBSD= :=20 [http://www.embeddedarm.com/software/arm-netbsd-toaster.php] ;-) Or perhaps you mean Mail::Toaster (which is based on FreeBSD and uses qmail= )? [http://www.tnpi.net/wiki/Mail_Toaster] The people who wrote Mail::Toaster can also provide assistance for a fee: [http://www.tnpi.net/cart/index.php?crn=3D207] > I need to use qmail because that's what was used on the old > mailserver, and all my backups are in Maildir format. I don't have > time to mess around converting all that mail to another format, so > that's my one fixed requirement. A lot of mail servers can handle maildir format. Postfix can use maildir natively. Sendmail+procmail can also handle it. On my own machine I use Postfix (with procmail for mail delivery and bogofilter for spam filtering) because it is so easy to set up. Qmail has a reputation of being quirky. But if you need qmail, it is in ports. Have a look which ports are installed on your current machine. If you install all those ports on the new machine, copy the configuration files and mail data from the old machine and you are ready to go. _Assuming_ that all software on the old machine was installed =66rom ports! > My first goal is to just get mail working, but ultimately, I'll want > spam filtering, a web interface, etc. >=20 > So, my question: should I use a toaster? And if so, which one? Whatever you buy should have enough oomph to handle whatever you want to add to it later. Especially if you want to run a webserver with php for webmai= l. There are several webmail apps available in ports. E.g. mail/squirrelmail, which has a lot of plugins available.=20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqAUrgACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXMpgCfdKuEY7aDMPUbSeqVFgVIhwFt gQ8AnRLao0+/bB9gVQv0xN/zY4G/Jk+Q =fMNO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 17:09:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9B0106564A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:09:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83BAD8FC21 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:09:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7AH9LsM060075; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:09:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3EC99BA8A; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:09:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:09:21 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Jay Hall Message-ID: <20090810170921.GC49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <6206A242-7226-48E3-8D09-A1D3A651F2A8@socket.net> <20090810162528.GA49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zCKi3GIZzVBPywwA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090810162528.GA49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup Size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:09:24 -0000 --zCKi3GIZzVBPywwA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 06:25:28PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:21:58AM -0500, Jay Hall wrote: > > I am sure there is an easy explanation for this, but I cannot find it. > >=20 > > I am backing up my /etc directory using the following command. > >=20 > > tar -cvf - /etc | dd of=3D/dev/nsa1 obs=3D10240 >=20 > Why are you using dd? Tar was originally built to write to tape: >=20 > tar -cvf /dev/nsa1 /etc >=20 > > When the command completes, I receive the following message. > >=20 > > 3080+0 records in > > 154+0 records out > > 1576960 bytes transferred in 0.179921 secs (8764740 bytes/sec) > >=20 > > What concerns me is when running du -h /etc, the size of the folder is = =20 > > reported as 1.7M. >=20 > du rounds sizes up to the filesystem block size, which is 512 bytes by > default. So you'll bound to see differences. And see below. Oops, scratch that. Brain fart. du -h uses kilo-, mega- etc. bytes according to du(1). =20 > > Is the number of bytes written to the tape less than the reported size = =20 > > of the directory because of the way the files are written to the =20 > > tape? If so, how can the amount of space used be calculated? > =20 > The fact that you are using tar also plays a part. Tar has some overhead = to > store information about the files it contains. >=20 > If you want to know the total size of all files: >=20 > find /etc -type f -ls | awk \ > 'BEGIN {t=3D0; c=3D0}; END {print t " bytes in " c " files"}; {t=3Dt+$7; = c++}' >=20 > This returns '1320254 bytes in 362 files' in my case, while the tar/dd co= mbo > returns 1617920 bytes. The difference is the overhead for tar. >=20 > If you really want to check if tar does the right thing, restore the back= up to > a different place (e.g. /tmp/etc) and check with diff: >=20 > # rewind your tape to the correct position (not shown) > cd /tmp; tar xvf /dev/nsa1 > diff -ru /etc /tmp/etc >=20 > The diff command should give no output. >=20 > Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --zCKi3GIZzVBPywwA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEUEARECAAYFAkqAVEEACgkQEnfvsMMhpyV6wwCYmbSzNlbREO5hzeM6/16iqcMm sACdG0sEMw00b5nAmxb3kOQuBnpaFNk= =Hp2f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zCKi3GIZzVBPywwA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 17:46:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4C5106566C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:46:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentb@beanfield.com) Received: from smtp2.beanfield.net (smtp2.beanfield.net [206.223.173.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5079F8FC25 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:46:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from brent.local ([66.207.193.249]) by smtp2.beanfield.net (8.13.4/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n7AHfVbo021082; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:41:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brentb@beanfield.com) Message-ID: <4A805CD8.2030508@beanfield.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:46:00 -0400 From: Brent Bloxam Organization: Beanfield Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4d4e09680908100838h6d42432fwd0ec9a10d145b809@mail.gmail.com> <20090810170248.GB49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20090810170248.GB49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jalmberg@identry.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: toaster or do-it-myself? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:46:09 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > There are several webmail apps available in ports. E.g. mail/squirrelmail, > which has a lot of plugins available. Squirrelmail's webserver was recently hacked, and plugins were compromised: http://secunia.com/advisories/36087/ http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_name=4A727634.3080008%40squirrelmail.org Just a friendly FYI From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 18:59:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5FC106566C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:59:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miklosovic.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A8C8FC2B for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:59:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so3496777fxm.36 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:59:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=NvGbO2z7CoS64+PXtcX2kBh5f2cS1MwNeraJh3ZYCGM=; b=C+EU1k1ZPTHDpB6QJ09xdU6H/bG0k2+cfluj3zGnyYuYa9m//aktXLnsI0ZJFA/sHP F4+QqhJTEJwEjwPehy2HGVX8yrPiYswFfa37xJWqrP5oTYsdtGCpr8z6doaL2KAS/gh5 omDpQLiseQ9hwk1wokge6TsFPA/Q7+vBNYkY4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ojZmAvx9LYIJhIYqUXf2H1QCkBVhhqdu24GPWNCmHkQfrwWy/7WH01Oo8jF61KPWS8 X/GNwm2IgW33kgTlZkebLz4AXsm5saT46byakz+ba88+ks/qJb4K+mrtB+KbR69ZcTJV ElM6c4HvRbWwmPQfXxom2ggrNMdis5wCgBRMU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.8.17 with SMTP id l17mr1967630mui.33.1249930774984; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:59:34 +0200 Message-ID: From: Stefan Miklosovic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: vsftpd with ssl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:59:37 -0000 Hi there, I am installing vsftpd server with ssl. It seems it works good, BUT *~:*ftp-tls notebook Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. 220 Welcome to miniBSD service. 234 Proceed with negotiation. [Starting SSL/TLS negotiation...] WARNING: Server's certificate issuer's certificate isn't available locally. WARNING: Certificate is untrusted. WARNING: Unable to verify leaf signature. WARNING: Errors while verifying the server's certificate chain, continue? (Y/N) Y [Subject: C = SK, O = Crypto, CN = notebook, emailAddress = miklosovic@gmail.com] [Issuer: C = SK, ST = Slovakia, O = MyCompany, OU = sysadmins, CN = notebook, emailAddress = miklosovic@gmail.com] [Cipher: DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits)] Compression: zlib compression Name (notebook:stewe): stewe 331 Please specify the password. Password: 230 Login successful. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp> so, as you can see, I logged in successfully, but there's some issue with certificates. I did my own CA authority, signed it on myself, adjusted config in this way /usr/loca/etc/vsftpd.conf ssl_enable=YES allow_anon_ssl=NO force_local_data_ssl=NO force_local_logins_ssl=YES rsa_private_key_file=/usr/local/etc/newkey.pem rsa_cert_file=/usr/local/etc/newcert.pem anonymous_enable=YES ..... an so on On the internet, there is a hint: "You must add the public key of your self signed CA to your OpenSSL certs directory." but how to do that ??? which dir? what public key? thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 19:15:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B09E106564A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:15:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10628FC15 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCF4248BF; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:15:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7AJF1uk002578; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:15:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:15:01 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ewald Jenisch Message-Id: <20090810211501.85db8d0f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090810120715.GA4044@aurora.oekb.co.at> References: <20090810120715.GA4044@aurora.oekb.co.at> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: icewm - error during portupgrade / compiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:15:04 -0000 On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:07:15 +0200, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > gnome2.cc:25:19: error: gnome.h: No such file or directory > gnome2.cc:27:40: error: libgnomevfs/gnome-vfs-init.h: No such file or directory This seems to be the cause of the error: a missing dependency (here: missing header files, BDEPS). > Has anybody else seen this problems recently? Not recently, but I'm sure I have seen this. > Any know cure? Maybe not very elegant, but I did pkg_add -r for the dependencies. I think you can compile the dependencies that are problematic, it seems to be gnome-vfs, by hand, and then start rebuilding your icewm port. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 19:17:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C2B1065674 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:17:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACD78FC35 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5F01DBCA; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:17:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7AJH0Nm002582; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:17:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:17:00 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jay Hall Message-Id: <20090810211700.b62dea11.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <6206A242-7226-48E3-8D09-A1D3A651F2A8@socket.net> References: <6206A242-7226-48E3-8D09-A1D3A651F2A8@socket.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup Size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:17:02 -0000 On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:21:58 -0500, Jay Hall wrote: > What concerns me is when running du -h /etc, the size of the folder is > reported as 1.7M. Excuse me for being pedantic, but please try to use the correct terminology. There are no "folders" in FreeBSD. The concept you are refering to is called a directory. You don't call the files in /etc "sheets of paper", do you? :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 19:17:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F39106564A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mailinglist.ahhyes.net) Received: from mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DE58FC15 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.104] (c211-30-26-44.rivrw2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.26.44]) by mail08.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7AJH9TM027933 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:17:11 +1000 Message-ID: <4A807235.4090601@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:17:09 +1000 From: Alex R User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A7FDA9E.6070906@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <66403456@bb.ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <66403456@bb.ipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: installworld fails on 7.2-RELEASE/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:17:14 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:30:22 +1000 Alex R wrote: > > >> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../btx/btx/btx -l boot2.ldr -o >> boot2.ld -P 1 boot2.bin >> btxld:No such file or directory >> *** Error code 1 >> > > This error (not only with btxld but with some random file) often > occures when the system timer has been changed (imho stepped back) > while the system is building/installing world. World rebuilding > helps in that case. > > Hi Boris, Why might the system timer do this? I am confused. The thing that ended up fixing it was completely rebuilding /usr/src (deleting the dir and installing the system sources via csup again) It's a new computer so perhaps there is some compatibility problem or fault with the machine? During a couple of port builds, I noticed a few processes relating to the build of a port had died with signal 10 in dmesg (bus error i think this means), and during a build of apache, something called confcheck had died with signal 12. I ran memtest86 on this system for about 6 hours and after about 20 passes, no errors reported. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 19:39:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EF3106564A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:39:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572198FC15 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:39:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gate.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.123] helo=h30.sp.ipt.ru) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1Maain-000ApF-UD; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:39:53 +0400 To: Alex R References: <4A7FDA9E.6070906@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <66403456@bb.ipt.ru> <4A807235.4090601@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:39:53 +0400 In-Reply-To: <4A807235.4090601@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> (Alex R.'s message of "Tue\, 11 Aug 2009 05\:17\:09 +1000") Message-ID: <11033862@h30.sp.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installworld fails on 7.2-RELEASE/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:39:55 -0000 On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:17:09 +1000 Alex R wrote: > Boris Samorodov wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:30:22 +1000 Alex R wrote: > >> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../btx/btx/btx -l boot2.ldr -o > >> boot2.ld -P 1 boot2.bin > >> btxld:No such file or directory > >> *** Error code 1 > > This error (not only with btxld but with some random file) often > > occures when the system timer has been changed (imho stepped back) > > while the system is building/installing world. World rebuilding > > helps in that case. > Why might the system timer do this? I am confused. The thing that Well, there are too many possibilities here. Like some run an ntpdate command. If you have logs you may check them up. > ended up fixing it was completely rebuilding /usr/src (deleting the > dir and installing the system sources via csup again) Seems like the case I supposed. > It's a new computer so perhaps there is some compatibility problem or > fault with the machine? During a couple of port builds, I noticed a > few processes relating to the build of a port had died with signal 10 > in dmesg (bus error i think this means), and during a build of apache, > something called confcheck had died with signal 12. Hm, that is not good imho. Smells like hardware fault. > I ran memtest86 on this system for about 6 hours and after about 20 > passes, no errors reported. Memory is only one system component. A processor/disk may be overheated, coolers stopped, etc. A very good test is make world (one after another several times). -- WBR, bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 20:14:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC30E10657C5 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:14:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8814A8FC31 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:14:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6597E818; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:14:33 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:14:32 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908101214.32647.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Stefan Miklosovic Subject: Re: vsftpd with ssl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:14:35 -0000 On Monday 10 August 2009 10:59:34 Stefan Miklosovic wrote: > Hi there, > > I am installing vsftpd server with ssl. > It seems it works good, BUT > > *~:*ftp-tls notebook > Trying 127.0.0.1... > Connected to localhost. > 220 Welcome to miniBSD service. > 234 Proceed with negotiation. > [Starting SSL/TLS negotiation...] > WARNING: Server's certificate issuer's certificate isn't available locally. This is an ftp-tls error, not vsftpd. It took some searching through OpenSSL sources, cause half of the manpages aren't available, but the certificate should be in /etc/ssl on the connecting machine. The error above is the same as described in the verify(1) manpage for OpenSSL: 2 X509_V_ERR_UNABLE_TO_GET_ISSUER_CERT: unable to get issuer certifi- cate the issuer certificate could not be found: this occurs if the issuer certificate of an untrusted certificate cannot be found. The verify(1) manpage also describes how to store your trusted certificates in there, though it doesn't contain too much info. Perhaps this guide will help you: http://gagravarr.org/writing/openssl-certs/others.shtml#ca-openssl -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 20:30:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C942C106566B for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amig@amig.no) Received: from engage.amig.no (engage.amig.no [85.252.162.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E99F8FC15 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by engage.amig.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCBB72FE832 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:12:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at engage.amig.no Received: from engage.amig.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.internal.amig.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id hE4g3c-ojFzP for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:12:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from SECTION10 (10.84-49-222.nextgentel.com [84.49.222.10]) by engage.amig.no (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1149E2FEAC9 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:12:33 +0200 (CEST) From: "Jan Aage Knutsen" To: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:12:03 +0200 Message-ID: <000901ca19f6$d3da2aa0$7b8e7fe0$@no> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoZ9CQP3BAXvEKyTNmBCQ8rmH2dbAAAVkwg Content-Language: no Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Route outgoing traffic on jail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:30:05 -0000 Hi, Im trying to route the outgoing traffic from a jail trough another gw than the default one set on host with pf. The host is using internal address 192.168.10.5 and the default route is to 192.168.10.1 wich is a dsl line. The jail is using a public ip that is on a fiber line where the gw is at the isp and not in my place. I got a /29 from them. I want this jail to use the isp gw and not the default route. So far I managed to get the reply-to rule to work. So traffic originating from inet to jail works. But the inet traffic originating from the jail still goes trough the defaultroute. I also using trunking on the interface and have multiple vlans on it. And the vlan traffic works fine. I can ping the isp1 gw from host etc. Here is my pf config. ############### # Variables # ############### if_isp1="vlan2" if_isp2="vlan1" gw1="x.x.x.1" gw2="192.168.21.1" jail_ip="x.x.x.30" ############### # Rules # ############### #routing for isp1 pass in on $if_isp1 reply-to (vlan2 $gw1) from any to any keep state <-this is the rule that works.. pass out on $if_isp1 route-to ($if_isp1 $gw1 ) from $jail_ip to any <- tried to mess around with this rule, Any good ideas out there? I also running 8.0 fyi. Regards Jan Aage From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 20:36:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EBA1065674 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:36:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f180.google.com (mail-yw0-f180.google.com [209.85.211.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55568FC2B for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:36:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh10 with SMTP id 10so8358870ywh.7 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:36:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=bj5GkQdCy9udW8H4JKY+0UUWBc9zpL43HmdxYkyI4m0=; b=cQsKtu/Dk9U5U62zElQdvkcE8v0PH9927oS/cu4vZjyrISvH5tGwxLPwymw2yn8NO8 iF3GvH6+/f01TZtS3hxLG67hk/mFbjn20QFDyIXyaKcnXTciS/8merCO9J+MG8uiXRpQ wG9ozqIRNwvabN0uRzBXiNZM9dFbCECA3P3sQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=mnm4s0W7+3+XaTNkWSXtnlRoRDnV1b/eCLtGxxFIGeSDOwhcv/nkEyMQWSzsAX1cUF /QvRdskmN5P9xD/l0wJYM6HJBW7ClTdyuCiEHau7fb2cGfQ6Z+BlsQiVxzAbWxn97ODF JZNS5FV+XJKJgqB18a5sKUCBFvdg4zkbQVlxs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.83.2 with SMTP id g2mr3650453agb.0.1249936596989; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:36:36 -0400 Message-ID: From: Tsu-Fan Cheng To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FTP server navigation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:36:39 -0000 Hi, I use freebsd7.2 and can't access my friend's FTP server (crystal FTP server) from command line. I can't run any command in the ftp server, it only responds "Entering Extended passive mode" and hang. But when I ftp from windows command prompt, it actually works. So what's the matter with my BSD communication? thanks!! TFC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 20:27:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E08F1065672 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:27:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from qapro1@yahoo.com) Received: from web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.236.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DF858FC21 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 58722 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Aug 2009 20:00:32 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1249934431; bh=ySlWqqe0PFmoaYMzTzSLl8WIawac5FN7L4eERNBYm7Y=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2XrdgnasI8/DsoRY652QD5LSweoafDZaEKHMpfN+tJmnIOVHXJvP4kD+YFHO9YY5tXwNqTH5EqFe3X+dM2XrnRRIzhEL1AkzNf7u+KbnhERZMv3snvbg01iFKKRgA0VxmT25y0MmsBhe7l0vTlWO5SVJPwIOvmXa1Ic9bzK2H5E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mOORhsqshXER0CmjieNUniROuhNzGFJW1o/7hx237IGoteQcflsJAlCf2/qcP40nZTSBDICRlOkCKYU/Rqll8pAZTHsKDGi/oZ8Gvrzzvl4mL6q33rl6Yvebuf6cIMhmAoFcOTNT/K6Z1A3y5OimOwIk9cm4+R4tJvmU0t6XG84=; Message-ID: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: bFDCmO8VM1ln_wjluasNpekM8KLdjDxKDq2jQvKPFDIk24HG.i7G2Rpuq83W1P_8wWiHnxrg.HAzwf_Dwo_sUcrQZB3qjQnPjCIWFGxF4odcwI_PDYkesJ1ed_YBsLHtEzZdTxYEBnBekSK0HjWT0lMuADjUdtYSC2iXT.dXHtNNcN2XorjxTTZ.Nx2ty56A7BS_zyDfD0xCI3ahWtAij5EehOuxigOjlsRAJAjMBRGxMUKWRJmoDxyTe4e1vyneHH34Ju5JY5LQfqVicQ-- Received: from [98.116.188.126] by web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:00:31 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:00:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Raisa Brokhshtut To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:37:29 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:27:14 -0000 Hello, =A0 My old desktop has FreeBSD that I have never used. One of the friends of my= son installed it long ago, but no one used that PC since then. Now I want = to get rid of this program and to install Windows.=A0Every time when I boot= this PC it prompts=A0for a user login which I don't know. This guy who int= alled FreeBSD is not around anymore. =A0 Anyway, I would greatly appreciate if you would guide me how to uninstall t= hat program. I don't have windows reskue cd. So I want to completly remove = that FreeBSD from my PC and to install=A0the Windows operating system from = CD.=20 =A0 Thank you =A0 Raisa=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 20:42:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E7D106566B for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:42:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9D28FC2B for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 999C81C1A67; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:42:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A808650.9090708@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:42:56 +0200 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Raisa Brokhshtut References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:42:58 -0000 Raisa Brokhshtut wrote: > My old desktop has FreeBSD that I have never used. One of the friends of my son installed it long ago, but no one used that PC since then. Now I want to get rid of this program and to install Windows. Every time when I boot this PC it prompts for a user login which I don't know. This guy who intalled FreeBSD is not around anymore. > > Anyway, I would greatly appreciate if you would guide me how to uninstall that program. I don't have windows reskue cd. So I want to completly remove that FreeBSD from my PC and to install the Windows operating system from CD. Simply boot the Windows install cd and install, no need to uninstall FreeBSD first. If the system doesn't boot the cd booting from cd is possibly disabled in the bios or set as second boot option. Check the bios that the system tries to boot from first from cdrom then hard disk. BR, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 20:46:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3053F106566C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:46:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC7E8FC1E for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:46:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so4440399yxe.3 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:46:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sOd25Vbq/M33a3VJSfeUJMOCXhP9aRGZpwgvyDX0EaE=; b=wVOBFbjuQlyCLjsjRGkD0jew3MCmEe0Hvemcxegd5HIWgZFAPRpk/q51B1OY8R2Wpb QGiKEp62tjZ+yRYBTpaCufS7O7any/zssjpJWdqtNvJziHy5Fg3AmsybV/U5DRVhxOP2 Og62BDp+VfjO+r27BOPZmSEGOw0DTnsqgp/Kc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ck1gYwhPti6yFyBD/MSYFuiSb3ECqAkmTYKyUt3teiXle7yzHnHAad8FK2lr26vROQ 4Yv5QVqBzPd9zDlPgFKYB/lvVawTlmPpMCPhKsNMiREpuYyA5OIqvy2F11ohakVNg8w7 tObp1XYPTA5vgxnAkAoaPN4UETkSUrxw3Ff6E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.143.7 with SMTP id q7mr9016646ybd.175.1249937186959; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:46:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:46:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: Raisa Brokhshtut Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:46:28 -0000 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Raisa Brokhshtut wrote: > Hello, > > My old desktop has FreeBSD that I have never used. One of the friends of = my son installed it long ago, but no one used that PC since then. Now I wan= t to get rid of this program and to install Windows.=A0Every time when I bo= ot this PC it prompts=A0for a user login which I don't know. This guy who i= ntalled FreeBSD is not around anymore. > > Anyway, I would greatly appreciate if you would guide me how to uninstall= that program. I don't have windows reskue cd. So I want to completly remov= e that FreeBSD from my PC and to install=A0the Windows operating system fro= m CD. Perhaps you should talk to MS people about installing MS. FreBSD is not in your way. The MS install disc(s) should take care of freeBSD. > > Thank you > > Raisa > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 20:52:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84C3106564A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:52:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@witchspace.com) Received: from queueout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (queueout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59A38FC44 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:52:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090810203112.BCZH5579.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:31:12 +0100 Received: from witchspace.com ([82.15.251.148]) by aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with SMTP id <20090810203112.GIWX2093.aamtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@witchspace.com> for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:31:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 3905 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2009 20:31:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (192.168.0.1) by dookie.home with SMTP; 10 Aug 2009 20:31:09 -0000 Message-ID: <4A808393.80501@witchspace.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:31:15 +0100 From: Jonathan Belson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=iVrAqghFAAAA:20 a=1XhGvPxol9Deifmkct0A:9 a=KRriczInkquSOOFHjEQ82kURFn8A:4 a=NK-rK5Mm1RkA:10 Subject: ipfw, NAT and CISCO IPSec VPNs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:52:18 -0000 Hiya I've got a pretty standard network which uses a FreeBSD server to perform NAT between my internal IPs (192.168.0.x) and the outside world. Everything is working tickety-boo, but I'm trying to tweak my firewall rules (ipfw, based on the 'SsIiMmPpLlEe' firewall template in rc.firewall) to allow a CISCO IPSec-based VPN client on a local machine to connect to a remote server (tunnel). tcpdump shows that the client attempts to send packets to the remote VPN server on port 500 (isakmp) as you'd expect, but it's not getting any packets back and so the connection fails. The following suggests that you can solve the problem by not changing the source port of the NATed packets, but gives a sample using pf: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2005-October/008749.html Other posts I've read say you can simply forward packets from the remote VPN server to the machine running the VPN client, but (needless to say) I haven't been able to get this to work: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.unix.bsd/browse_thread/thread/85d775a73e352aa5/f62e6b0d67b2d576 Any suggestions from people who have done similar before? Cheers, --Jon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 20:59:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657D7106566C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:59:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215AB8FC1F for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7AKxha1075178 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:59:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200908102059.n7AKxha1075178@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <75176.1249937983.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:59:43 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Trying to Install Man Page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:59:52 -0000 There is a test man page I am trying to install and the system is not finding it. I put it in /usr/local/man/man1 and think I should at least get complaints about the page as it is the start of a man page, not the whole thing. I named it testpage, compressed it with gzip and when I type man testpage, it just says that there is no manual entry for testpage. Is there a data base I forgot to remake after adding the page? I did make sure the ownership and permissions are the same as other pages in the directory. I also did a man on one of the other pages in that same directory and it came right up. Thank you. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 21:01:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A781210656CD for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:01:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68ACD8FC23 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4237D1DC5C; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:01:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7AL1k8v003031; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:01:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:01:45 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Tsu-Fan Cheng Message-Id: <20090810230145.623f9421.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: FTP server navigation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:01:49 -0000 On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:36:36 -0400, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > Hi, > I use freebsd7.2 and can't access my friend's FTP server (crystal FTP > server) from command line. I can't run any command in the ftp server, it > only responds "Entering Extended passive mode" and hang. But when I ftp from > windows command prompt, it actually works. So what's the matter with my BSD > communication? thanks!! Refer to "man ftp". Passive FTP is mentioned as follows: EXTENDED PASSIVE MODE AND FIREWALLS Some firewall configurations do not allow ftp to use extended passive mode. If you find that even a simple ls appears to hang after printing a message such as this: 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||58551|) then you will need to disable extended passive mode with epsv4 off. See the above section The .netrc File for an example of how to make this automatic. Above it states: epsv4 Toggle the use of the extended EPSV and EPRT commands on IPv4 connections; first try EPSV / EPRT, and then PASV / PORT. This is enabled by default. If an extended command fails then this option will be temporarily disabled for the dura- tion of the current connection, or until epsv4 is executed again. You can use this setting either via .netrc or as an interactive command. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 21:03:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38BC106566B for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:03:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from proxy3.bredband.net (proxy3.bredband.net [195.54.101.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC6A8FC15 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:03:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from iph2.telenor.se (195.54.127.133) by proxy3.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 49F597CD027C0030 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:42:37 +0200 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aot7AAYjgEpV44BwPGdsb2JhbACBUpgrSQEBAQE3qAUBjliCTAGBSwWCJ4F6 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,355,1246831200"; d="scan'208";a="34570234" Received: from c-7080e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO lazlar.kicks-ass.net) ([85.227.128.112]) by iph2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 10 Aug 2009 22:42:36 +0200 Message-ID: <4A80863B.1000003@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:42:35 +0200 From: Rolf G Nielsen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090803) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Raisa Brokhshtut References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:03:34 -0000 Raisa Brokhshtut wrote: > Hello, > > My old desktop has FreeBSD that I have never used. One of the friends of my son installed it long ago, but no one used that PC since then. Now I want to get rid of this program and to install Windows. Every time when I boot this PC it prompts for a user login which I don't know. This guy who intalled FreeBSD is not around anymore. > > Anyway, I would greatly appreciate if you would guide me how to uninstall that program. I don't have windows reskue cd. So I want to completly remove that FreeBSD from my PC and to install the Windows operating system from CD. > > Thank you > > Raisa > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Insert the Windoze install CD and boot off it. When prompted, create an NTFS or a FAT slice covering the whole drive. -- Rolf Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 21:22:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0C7106566C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5DF8FC1E for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4445F3D450; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:22:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7ALMtai003104; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:22:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:22:55 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Raisa Brokhshtut Message-Id: <20090810232255.7eacc233.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:22:59 -0000 On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:00:31 -0700 (PDT), Raisa Brokhshtut wrote: > Anyway, I would greatly appreciate if you would guide me how to uninstall > that program. FreeBSD is not a program, it's an operating system. > I don't have windows reskue cd. You don't need it, but you need the installation CD for the "Windows" you want to install. > So I want to completly remove that FreeBSD from my PC and to install >=A0the Windows operating system from CD.=20 In order to install "Windows", enable booting from CD (via BIOS setup) and follow the instructions presented by the installer. Usually, any MICROS~1 operating system attempts to completely wipe the disk it wants to install on, so it will (of course) remove FreeBSD while creating its own "partition" before installing. --=20 Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 22:08:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45301065673 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:08:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mailinglist.ahhyes.net) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FEE8FC36 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.104] (c211-30-26-44.rivrw2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.26.44]) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7AM88S0025534 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:08:09 +1000 Message-ID: <4A809A48.40302@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:08:08 +1000 From: Alex R User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A7FDA9E.6070906@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <66403456@bb.ipt.ru> <4A807235.4090601@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <11033862@h30.sp.ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <11033862@h30.sp.ipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: installworld fails on 7.2-RELEASE/amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:08:12 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:17:09 +1000 Alex R wrote: > >> Boris Samorodov wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:30:22 +1000 Alex R wrote: >>> > > >>>> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../btx/btx/btx -l boot2.ldr -o >>>> boot2.ld -P 1 boot2.bin >>>> btxld:No such file or directory >>>> *** Error code 1 >>>> > > >>> This error (not only with btxld but with some random file) often >>> occures when the system timer has been changed (imho stepped back) >>> while the system is building/installing world. World rebuilding >>> helps in that case. >>> > > >> Why might the system timer do this? I am confused. The thing that >> > > Well, there are too many possibilities here. Like some run an > ntpdate command. If you have logs you may check them up. > > >> ended up fixing it was completely rebuilding /usr/src (deleting the >> dir and installing the system sources via csup again) >> > > Seems like the case I supposed. > > >> It's a new computer so perhaps there is some compatibility problem or >> fault with the machine? During a couple of port builds, I noticed a >> few processes relating to the build of a port had died with signal 10 >> in dmesg (bus error i think this means), and during a build of apache, >> something called confcheck had died with signal 12. >> > > Hm, that is not good imho. Smells like hardware fault. > > >> I ran memtest86 on this system for about 6 hours and after about 20 >> passes, no errors reported. >> > > Memory is only one system component. A processor/disk may be overheated, > coolers stopped, etc. A very good test is make world (one after another > several times). > > Shouldn't be a heating issue, the case has fans galore in it, the thermal side of things look ok from what I can see :) It's one of the recent gigabyte motherboards that uses DDR3 memory. I did find a setting in the BIOS that had a title of DRAM performance enhance, it was set to turbo by default, I have set it back to standard in case that was causing stability issues (the machine is not overclocked). I have also gone back to the i386 release instead of amd64. Done a build world and have built several ports, no core dumps or unexplained phenomena as of yet (fingers crossed). though if the system starts to act up again, I will be sending the motherboard back! Off topic, it wouldn't be a first time that the amd64 release has presented odd issues. I have a machine with an Intel desktop board with a core duo cpu in it (EMT64 capable) with 4GB of DDR3 memory, freebsd 7/amd64 or freebsd 8/amd64 refuse to boot. On that machine, it just page faults during the kernel init (had a PR open for over a year now, going nowhere), however the i386 release of freebsd boots ok. 64 bit linux works perfectly on that board. It's a bit of a hit and miss thing these days with motherboards and open source operating systems. I've generally had a good run with FreeBSD on Gigabyte hardware. Thanks for your suggestions though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 22:25:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430461065672 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:25:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derrick@packetsafe.net) Received: from mail.packetsafe.net (mail.packetsafe.net [208.86.227.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9288FC15 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.packetsafe.net ([127.0.0.1] helo=secure.packetsafe.net) by mail.packetsafe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MacbK-0002qb-40 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:40:18 -0700 Received: from 216.13.201.172 (SquirrelMail authenticated user derrick) by secure.packetsafe.net with HTTP; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:40:18 -0700 Message-ID: <19a28df888b72db0c87877564ec4da01.squirrel@secure.packetsafe.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:40:18 -0700 From: "Derrick MacPherson" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:25:01 -0000 I had a ssd drive in a system to use as temp backup server, it has 6 1tb drives in it that i created a raid0 (i'm pretty sure that's what I created) and used as a backup, to rebuild our file server. the ssd drive was taken back after a couple weeks as the box was no longer being used. At this point I need to check whats on that array due to some data corruption. The drives in the array are probably not plugged in as they were when used before. Is it possible, and if so how, to recover that array? I've popped in a different system drive and have got the box back up, I thought there'd be a way to read the labels on the drives and recreate the raid set.. am i wrong? -- Derrick MacPherson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 22:36:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96BA11065670 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22ABF8FC3B for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so2219356bwz.43 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:36:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IOYDJtRuUuBj7F3hx7Miq8eDVTozABxfAYfDe9qs2vQ=; b=lwpqb6IINZBbK8xEhttxqE7BeTjbKYVsrtBK9VZ7c7h07we+PBMNat2w3w+gFpZ8tG 94Ijy+ooV+1IRwmND+PPQGw0yvGIf7Tb8e3dHTrarNn76LcPrs2ohs0Mhwp0V6qw4aDi 8iDIqLfPoYZ6MS3KvhP4gNL6QjkndXqlmKkUw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KorPlgv2wVqouN27qbe6UlCH+DM2b1Ed0tK5m3y9wwvKjmJjmA++pMfZi+lvmYkeZc gJV0UDCPGmOmogivnNrMIdP2uQvH6+xZXl9nblbSVaLcyv6Cj0zis0IrV85yx8tGfnmE r6o4QbVMlnrdYcEzEAX+98z5UhW7nYwO6SZ+I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.103.202 with SMTP id l10mr347578fao.95.1249943782979; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:36:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <19a28df888b72db0c87877564ec4da01.squirrel@secure.packetsafe.net> References: <19a28df888b72db0c87877564ec4da01.squirrel@secure.packetsafe.net> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:36:22 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310908101536s65dbb100j46407c1bb71ce045@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Derrick MacPherson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:36:24 -0000 Hi Derrick On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Derrick MacPherson wrote: > > I had a ssd drive in a system to use as temp backup server, it has 6 1tb > drives in it that i created a raid0 (i'm pretty sure that's what I > created) That is a very important piece of information to have. You cannot rebuild RAID0 arrays because there is no redundancy nor parity. You _can_ rebuild RAID1 arrays. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/raid.html -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 22:55:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12C6106566B for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:55:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wtf.jlaine@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56C48FC20 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:55:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so3349629ewy.43 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:55:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-operating-system; bh=cBcKg+FcTXH6RInTTM3I25Wc6LrMXnJxBNxSaAhBJIo=; b=vIVOhDNX46uMctg6L0K5cxHx6t5tDf31f80bTyeaFUixjmaX72ysW9EPQs5+9X+rHp bAg1ml6MX6aUFVRWuiGO8O29dPr1kT7/DeUI8imtcBSsbp8MJY33q80hkHYBpJ7IxOGT JOZO8sVs6gvr46PKqUNqCd4lZEckjDS58QpvM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent:x-operating-system; b=klqSQqKTwdmZF4v7kNbFvagwJGJN/0CZc36vUp87OaixvwHGLoDiMPEay3GBFUhMSV +P4qyWwAA5xlGIfW950RWQyz6c1vVTVCuJxVO/voMnVZuRwy9nhh+yUys0MsizPnPqIF /Y2nJwYbCgckCS5mnDMJOaDKyUmxb1qR9vfOQ= Received: by 10.210.63.18 with SMTP id l18mr5575879eba.11.1249944906506; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:55:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aperture_lab ([77.66.145.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm1145775eyx.13.2009.08.10.15.55.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by aperture_lab (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:55:08 +0400 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:55:08 +0400 From: Jeff Laine To: Daniel Underwood Message-ID: <20090810225508.GA36580@free.bsd.loc> Mail-Followup-To: Jeff Laine , Daniel Underwood , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090731085553.461f73be.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731114711.49d94196.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731170422.0574fef5.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731221532.ab004d5b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731205636.GB44613@kokopelli.hydra> <20090731231007.feec5a75.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090807061137.GA4290@kokopelli.hydra> <4A7C1AD3.5060503@rcn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 i386 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:55:08 -0000 On Fri,08/07/09 [09:32:38], Daniel Underwood wrote: > I'd really love to see chromium ported over. ditto. But now I'm pretty happy with that new firefox-3.5 which seems pretty faster than previous version and still light enough for my old 1.6G celeron-powered laptop. -- Best regards, Jeff | "Nobody wants to say how this works. | | Maybe nobody knows ..." | | Xorg.conf(5) | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 22:56:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F74C106566C for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:56:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=U7+AB0=EC=packetsafe.net=derrick@srs.bis.na.blackberry.com) Received: from smtp13.bis.na.blackberry.com (smtp13.bis.na.blackberry.com [216.9.248.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1DD8FC3A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:56:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bda474.bisx.prod.on.blackberry (bda474.bisx.prod.on.blackberry [172.20.218.19]) by srs.bis.na.blackberry.com (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n7AMRwcR022219; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:27:58 GMT Received: from bda474.bisx.prod.on.blackberry (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bda474.bisx.prod.on.blackberry (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n7AMRGXQ021315; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:27:16 GMT X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 1461863968 Message-ID: <1461863968-1249943235-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-704191927-@bxe1267.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Derrick MacPherson" Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:26:34 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: derrick@packetsafe.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:56:14 -0000 QXMgc29vbiBhcyB5b3Ugc2VuZCB0aGVzZSwgeW91IGZpbmQgYW4gYW5zd2VyLiBMb2FkZWQgZ2Vv bV9zdHJpcGUgYW5kIEkgd2FzIGFibGUgdG8gc2VlIHRoZSBhcnJheQ0KDQoNCg0KLS0tLS0tT3Jp Z2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZS0tLS0tLQ0KRnJvbTogRGVycmljayBNYWNQaGVyc29uDQpTZW5kZXI6IG93 bmVyLWZyZWVic2QtcXVlc3Rpb25zQGZyZWVic2Qub3JnDQpUbzogZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNA ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmcNClN1YmplY3Q6IChubyBzdWJqZWN0KQ0KU2VudDogQXVnIDEwLCAyMDA5IDE0 OjQwDQoNCg0KSSBoYWQgYSBzc2QgZHJpdmUgaW4gYSBzeXN0ZW0gdG8gdXNlIGFzIHRlbXAgYmFj a3VwIHNlcnZlciwgaXQgaGFzIDYgMXRiDQpkcml2ZXMgaW4gaXQgdGhhdCBpIGNyZWF0ZWQgYSBy YWlkMCAoaSdtIHByZXR0eSBzdXJlIHRoYXQncyB3aGF0IEkNCmNyZWF0ZWQpIGFuZCB1c2VkIGFz IGEgYmFja3VwLCB0byByZWJ1aWxkIG91ciBmaWxlIHNlcnZlci4gdGhlIHNzZCBkcml2ZQ0Kd2Fz IHRha2VuIGJhY2sgYWZ0ZXIgYSBjb3VwbGUgd2Vla3MgYXMgdGhlIGJveCB3YXMgbm8gbG9uZ2Vy IGJlaW5nIHVzZWQuDQpBdCB0aGlzIHBvaW50IEkgbmVlZCB0byBjaGVjayB3aGF0cyBvbiB0aGF0 IGFycmF5IGR1ZSB0byBzb21lIGRhdGENCmNvcnJ1cHRpb24uIFRoZSBkcml2ZXMgaW4gdGhlIGFy cmF5IGFyZSBwcm9iYWJseSBub3QgcGx1Z2dlZCBpbiBhcyB0aGV5DQp3ZXJlIHdoZW4gdXNlZCBi ZWZvcmUuIElzIGl0IHBvc3NpYmxlLCBhbmQgaWYgc28gaG93LCB0byByZWNvdmVyIHRoYXQNCmFy cmF5PyBJJ3ZlIHBvcHBlZCBpbiBhIGRpZmZlcmVudCBzeXN0ZW0gZHJpdmUgYW5kIGhhdmUgZ290 IHRoZSBib3ggYmFjaw0KdXAsIEkgdGhvdWdodCB0aGVyZSdkIGJlIGEgd2F5IHRvIHJlYWQgdGhl IGxhYmVscyBvbiB0aGUgZHJpdmVzIGFuZA0KcmVjcmVhdGUgdGhlIHJhaWQgc2V0Li4gYW0gaSB3 cm9uZz8NCg0KDQotLSANCg0KRGVycmljayBNYWNQaGVyc29uDQoNCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fDQpmcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9uc0BmcmVlYnNk Lm9yZyBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QNCmh0dHA6Ly9saXN0cy5mcmVlYnNkLm9yZy9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3Rp bmZvL2ZyZWVic2QtcXVlc3Rpb25zDQpUbyB1bnN1YnNjcmliZSwgc2VuZCBhbnkgbWFpbCB0byAi ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnMtdW5zdWJzY3JpYmVAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmciDQoNCg0KU2VudCBmcm9t IG15IEJsYWNrQmVycnkuIA== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 23:07:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FABD106564A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:07:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nafzal@hotmail.com) Received: from col0-omc4-s18.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc4-s18.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AF18FC1E for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from COL111-W45 ([65.55.34.199]) by col0-omc4-s18.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:55:54 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [192.55.54.38] From: Naeem Afzal To: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:55:54 +0000 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Aug 2009 22:55:54.0601 (UTC) FILETIME=[B7526D90:01CA1A0D] Subject: filesystem size after newfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:07:06 -0000 I created this small partition of 512K bytes on disk=2C I am noticing a= bout 24% is used up before system can be mounted and used. My assumption wa= s about 4% is supposed to be used if minfree is set to 0. #newfs -U -l -m 0 -n -o space /dev/ad1d /dev/ad1d: 0.5MB (1024 sectors) block size 16384=2C fragment size 2048 = using 1 cylinder groups of 0.50MB=2C 32 blks=2C 64 inodes with soft updates super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: 160 #mount /dev/ad1d /test #df -H /test Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad1d 391k 2.0k 389k 1% /test Could someone explain where the 512-391=3D121K of disk space went to? W= hat is the relation between this used of space and total paritition size or= is it some fixed ratio? Thanks & Regards Naeem _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail=AE= .=20 http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=3DPID233= 91::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_express:082009= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 23:40:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E35106564A for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:40:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F348FC15 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:40:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FBF1DB34; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:40:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7ANeARi004242; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:40:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:40:09 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jeff Laine Message-Id: <20090811014009.46a70aee.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090810225508.GA36580@free.bsd.loc> References: <20090731085553.461f73be.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731114711.49d94196.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731170422.0574fef5.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731221532.ab004d5b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731205636.GB44613@kokopelli.hydra> <20090731231007.feec5a75.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090807061137.GA4290@kokopelli.hydra> <4A7C1AD3.5060503@rcn.com> <20090810225508.GA36580@free.bsd.loc> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Daniel Underwood , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:40:13 -0000 On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:55:08 +0400, Jeff Laine wrote: > But now I'm pretty happy with that new firefox-3.5 which seems pretty > faster than previous version and still light enough for my old 1.6G > celeron-powered laptop. May I guess what I should consider light enough for my uber-old ancient 0.5G AMD powered laptop? :-) By the way: In order to find out which browser is *really* lightweight, fast and still easy to use, responsive and standard compliant, you should try running it on *really* old hardware. If it runs there good enough so you would use it, it will be blazing fast on your modern hardware of today. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 00:01:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4781065670 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:01:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040D28FC37 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:01:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so3375541ewy.43 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:01:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=02TGqnSVtWoyV9FFJ0U9JVoSJaOvWCZvjTjIu1Fn9y4=; b=cqUfMZxr4p6di9ogOR/LLii/ls+N5+qCMsV9Sx0YoBd9hPWn/OsMXN37TvjeBxSY3V oTTzMJ0PLvHN22CIcYsnpKwXIm6EdIRWyuzWKOu36XdH8Qb4FU+1DcXx3YgenDz/ZGot 1IXiySN6zY57Mcqvr7CM70eDy64quS0ejAzIU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NmPss6SQl3HptlPkFAFCF7WfDpIhofIxMAlV2jKim5FHDJy1U0S4qce0YDJ8SzrA4Q ITLAkeBc4KJV4jAQQfHvcm9pXO0F2+9wpLEvCUlTbcFRSSgnYlt2psuw5E7h18FqN13i 0iWKy7zAdVn2j/3VL9QgUILc4mbYO1pChmT+E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.9.66 with SMTP id 44mr1147454wes.73.1249948893731; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:01:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090810225508.GA36580@free.bsd.loc> References: <20090731085553.461f73be.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731170422.0574fef5.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731221532.ab004d5b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731205636.GB44613@kokopelli.hydra> <20090731231007.feec5a75.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090807061137.GA4290@kokopelli.hydra> <4A7C1AD3.5060503@rcn.com> <20090810225508.GA36580@free.bsd.loc> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:01:33 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: Jeff Laine , Daniel Underwood , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:01:35 -0000 > ditto. But now I'm pretty happy with that new firefox-3.5 which seems pretty > faster than previous version and still light enough for my old 1.6G > celeron-powered laptop. Nice. I haven't tried 3.5 yet. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 00:05:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331031065672 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:05:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-302.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-302.bluehost.com [67.222.53.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF1F68FC1A for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:05:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3055 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 2009 00:05:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy6.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2009 00:05:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=LqmcgtMkzZOG1Pxl/gfxoWBE4S7ayjxwwEvAA6R8PY3UFUbK6azyqTQdq8l5bSAlxZimTMiNKxyus2R2eBJ1oo6hoz/iTVTKywRIi7Mvn7xRTNk/vMwBbJ5Y3gnX1GBG; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Maes3-0006zN-9H; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:05:43 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:58:16 -0600 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:58:16 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090810235816.GA35522@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jeff Laine , Daniel Underwood References: <20090731114711.49d94196.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731170422.0574fef5.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731221532.ab004d5b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731205636.GB44613@kokopelli.hydra> <20090731231007.feec5a75.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090807061137.GA4290@kokopelli.hydra> <4A7C1AD3.5060503@rcn.com> <20090810225508.GA36580@free.bsd.loc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="huq684BweRXVnRxX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090810225508.GA36580@free.bsd.loc> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Jeff Laine , Daniel Underwood Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:05:44 -0000 --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 02:55:08AM +0400, Jeff Laine wrote: > On Fri,08/07/09 [09:32:38], Daniel Underwood wrote: > > I'd really love to see chromium ported over. >=20 > ditto. But now I'm pretty happy with that new firefox-3.5 which seems pre= tty=20 > faster than previous version and still light enough for my old 1.6G=20 > celeron-powered laptop. I'd love to see Chromium on FreeBSD too -- in part because I'm sick and fucking tired of the growing rate of Firefox issues as time goes on. It's getting too fat and complex for stable, reliable use of the sort I want. I managed to solve all my Firefox 3.5 problems by upgrading to 3.0 again. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth markinct @techrepublic.com: "Don't take anything you do on-line lightly. Caveat Clicker..." --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqAtBgACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWsewCZAU9ovdDSz5do31KKaa5vM/ZJ m3UAniurbAL9VtVny6hV3u9m+WThUwNc =U+NH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --huq684BweRXVnRxX-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 02:14:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7481065672 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:14:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlilly@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E928FC25 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:14:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so1118872and.13 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:13:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dyzZW2TCDGFrWYR/53PwbWtQyxOD0VGN/l8cm58R7wc=; b=V9S6tNV4R4g3F1skGmlObjwYISIsH1lu54PkCSZ4hYr+FI+2U1JJvh7Ee/9w506y5D lWuuv3ks+X4tN0pNMK/VLou0W+6yE0tc4KQjS1J7p1+wra9iSDoXSEMow2HEsKw330CN mddhiuZB8ZQbXEauN8fV5YbnNaCSw6EN+6Idw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=w6oaITSaHtrODBL2aJB4wqnWAkLwAck7HRm3ZV2QR4G11yumh/pYthCxgDMesa1JqP cWZYC3c2EIQPt2oNt0o1jQOaX/n9Kz0rlqhYq39xITU9/vQp26JoEunH3Y3SnU8i2awK cH5of8vZc1Y5b+civ6TFfVbJdS3VSVDZyhOQk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.11.16 with SMTP id 16mr4542177ank.39.1249956839672; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:13:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:13:59 -0700 Message-ID: From: mojo fms To: Naeem Afzal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: filesystem size after newfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:14:01 -0000 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Naeem Afzal wrote: > > I created this small partition of 512K bytes on disk, I am noticing > about 24% is used up before system can be mounted and used. My assumption > was about 4% is supposed to be used if minfree is set to 0. > > #newfs -U -l -m 0 -n -o space /dev/ad1d > /dev/ad1d: 0.5MB (1024 sectors) block size 16384, fragment size 2048 > using 1 cylinder groups of 0.50MB, 32 blks, 64 inodes with soft updates > super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: > 160 > #mount /dev/ad1d /test > #df -H /test > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad1d 391k 2.0k 389k 1% /test > Could someone explain where the 512-391=3D121K of disk space went to? = What > is the relation between this used of space and total paritition size or i= s > it some fixed ratio? > Thanks & Regards > Naeem > _________________________________________________________________ > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail= =AE. > > http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=3DPID2= 3391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_express:082009_________________________= ______________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.orgmailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > 5% to root, and the rest i am assuming file system blocks. Try making the 512k partition bigger accounting for those things and you should be able to get it really close to 512k available. --=20 Who knew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 02:24:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550F71065672 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:24:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf5.socket.net (mf5b.socket.net [216.106.26.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291848FC3B for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.129.40.203] (216.106.12.14.reverse.socket.net [216.106.12.14]) by mf5.socket.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0A361372; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:24:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: From: Jay Hall To: Roland Smith In-Reply-To: <20090810170921.GC49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:24:19 -0500 References: <6206A242-7226-48E3-8D09-A1D3A651F2A8@socket.net> <20090810162528.GA49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20090810170921.GC49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup Size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:24:27 -0000 On Aug 10, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Roland Smith wrote: >> The fact that you are using tar also plays a part. Tar has some >> overhead to >> store information about the files it contains. Is it possible to calculate the amount of overhead tar will use? Thanks, Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 02:43:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0091F1065670 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1A48FC16 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7B2hnEp004700; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:43:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:42:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20090807061137.GA4290@kokopelli.hydra> Message-ID: References: <20090731085553.461f73be.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731114711.49d94196.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731170422.0574fef5.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731221532.ab004d5b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731205636.GB44613@kokopelli.hydra> <20090731231007.feec5a75.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090807061137.GA4290@kokopelli.hydra> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:43:53 -0000 On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 08:27:34AM -0400, Chris Hill wrote: >> >> Firefox has not had Ctrl-Q for some time. Try Alt-F followed by Q. I guess >> that's 2.5 keystrokes, but at least it's keystrokes. > > What version number would you call "some time" ago? I just used Ctrl-Q > about six hours or so ago. I've used it too, but more like six years ago. I have not kept notes on the version numbers, just one day noticed Ctrl-Q not working anymore after an update. But I would guess it was sometime around the 1.x -> 2.x transition. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 03:08:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6F61065678 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:08:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F3EB8FC20 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:08:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9047E821; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:08:37 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:08:35 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <6206A242-7226-48E3-8D09-A1D3A651F2A8@socket.net> <20090810170921.GC49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908101908.36042.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Roland Smith , Jay Hall Subject: Re: Backup Size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:08:39 -0000 On Monday 10 August 2009 18:24:19 Jay Hall wrote: > On Aug 10, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > >> The fact that you are using tar also plays a part. Tar has some > >> overhead to > >> store information about the files it contains. > > Is it possible to calculate the amount of overhead tar will use? Difficult. 512 bytes per entry + 1024 (EOF). See man 5 tar. But since files will be padded there is some extra overhead. Also, it is hard to calculate hard links and sparse files. Tar will handle these correctly (i.e. preserve hard links and detect sparse files and try not archive "blocks of nulls") but it is hard to calculate the size because of this before the archive operation because of this. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 03:14:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062CE106566C for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf5.socket.net (mf5b.socket.net [216.106.26.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71B38FC25 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.129.40.203] (216.106.12.14.reverse.socket.net [216.106.12.14]) by mf5.socket.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BD16064F; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:14:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: From: Jay Hall To: Mel Flynn In-Reply-To: <200908101908.36042.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:14:13 -0500 References: <6206A242-7226-48E3-8D09-A1D3A651F2A8@socket.net> <20090810170921.GC49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <200908101908.36042.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup Size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:14:15 -0000 > > Difficult. 512 bytes per entry + 1024 (EOF). See man 5 tar. But > since files > will be padded there is some extra overhead. Also, it is hard to > calculate > hard links and sparse files. Tar will handle these correctly (i.e. > preserve > hard links and detect sparse files and try not archive "blocks of > nulls") but > it is hard to calculate the size because of this before the archive > operation > because of this. > -- > Mel Thanks. I have been able to come close, but not exact. Looks like close will have to be good enough. Thanks again. Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 05:37:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2BB106566B for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:37:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from identry@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F8F8FC3F for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so3478750ewy.43 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:37:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bevL++648ZBICyr8xVRbAm8VkpAlUIrMpbSZA1oaypw=; b=q3LCcw8Tsu0PLTDXAroUEpNntqn8JKm3gjzgHT2jySgxlEWeFdVZXUkbtQnnUmFycM QhFwfyFLg9D1c4YZ7aqjU1LUa/lU89zk5Eka+vAVb4oGCxGii55rYowxCM/ICRu6OtgV a0ySOdnJ5lP/bO1xxDyLFd6oSh/ggg6ONSwDs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=FaCqIV/sMXFlZUSai32OY7jhTetot3JNJ82hijASFfZbi1k+RWPH9w0cfx7RQuF95E JeUDx0GukAZgmyRcEZBh6T+3gMLnCryUQpTWAzYzxxDesPpQpMZu2h8y7dUBx0D54lAm n17ki+I0VNNikGPacBnuU9kUWxkHYvLq6ckbI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: identry@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.1.202 with SMTP id 52mr1186299wed.15.1249969070514; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:37:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A805CD8.2030508@beanfield.com> References: <4d4e09680908100838h6d42432fwd0ec9a10d145b809@mail.gmail.com> <20090810170248.GB49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A805CD8.2030508@beanfield.com> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:37:50 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 467b9a73cff0b902 Message-ID: <4d4e09680908102237u27f8b370s7bfe4b2ede3321ab@mail.gmail.com> From: Identry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: toaster or do-it-myself? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:37:52 -0000 Frack... qmail is impossible. I've been hacking at this for 14 hours and it's just not working. I must be stupid. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 05:39:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8786A10656B6 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:39:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D2558FC44 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:38:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so1342802qwe.7 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:38:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iuGMdYuTOhHx9T3ZAb5HhqWlI+442BLHXcsx6bmAQ0k=; b=L2MB0dcybeLLol0oUUKoi0Bo0a8iZGltR/fRM8U82o9ycZvT/pnXZxxDiglrtnvBJ8 XjaNpgnLngiOXIzRsXMZceQ4OgBhj1RqlFYfTmhhec2rG2Xygl3RlY0S3vgii5odljF3 UTauEJo7HVs1kxkJbEt4RWDbHk/Ug5VF6L238= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SG+LLQQgUa9diCZ/6VFwDE7MW3roHn06rNmg/RbDXKihrYJCXOmNpRUKntgzl+eIsj SQbqHdkcW1B0xJd2a+n3qb8O1/tnZvvZv3WuASK0JlINCxd7zgkMRdqJWstFIZJPVh/F oPCga1y7cF7sjKX5+uE/ELbKsXX18olVCK098= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.99.208 with SMTP id v16mr1781363qcn.75.1249969138423; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:38:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A808393.80501@witchspace.com> References: <4A808393.80501@witchspace.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:38:58 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640908102238g3a0f0c2ai9fcc36fdb9227b29@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Jonathan Belson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw, NAT and CISCO IPSec VPNs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:39:16 -0000 > I've got a pretty standard network which uses a FreeBSD server to perform > NAT between my internal IPs (192.168.0.x) and the outside world. =A0Every= thing > is working tickety-boo, but I'm trying to tweak my firewall rules (ipfw, > based on the 'SsIiMmPpLlEe' firewall template in rc.firewall) to allow a > CISCO IPSec-based VPN client on a local machine to connect to a remote > server (tunnel). > > tcpdump shows that the client attempts to send packets to the remote VPN > server on port 500 (isakmp) as you'd expect, but it's not getting any > packets back and so the connection fails. > > The following suggests that you can solve the problem by not changing the > source port of the NATed packets, but gives a sample using pf: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2005-October/008749.html > > Other posts I've read say you can simply forward packets from the remote = VPN > server to the machine running the VPN client, but (needless to say) I > haven't been able to get this to work: > > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.unix.bsd/browse_thread/thread/85d775a= 73e352aa5/f62e6b0d67b2d576 > > Any suggestions from people who have done similar before? I'm very surprised that you wrote this email because I stayed up most of the night yesterday to fix a similar problem. I was running a NAT using the OpenBSD pf firewall on my FreeBSD 7.1 router. Yeah, everything was working fine just like in your case. One of the people at home (from within 192.168.0.x) are using Cisco VPN Client to do some IPSec/UDP something a rather (I don't know too much about this, frankly) and the connection kept timing out after 5 minutes. I tried just about every permutation of pf rules, form the very simple and minimalistic to the more elaborate. Nothing worked, still timed out after 5 minutes. I then did a sanity check and connected a simple Linksys router device to replace my FreeBSD router with the Linksys (direct replacement, same network configs). The Linksys did not cause the timeout issue. So I figured the FreeBSD router was the culprit. I then tried to do away with OpenBSD's pf, and I tried IPFILTER (IPF) Firewall. I created a one-liner rule in /etc/ipnat.rules: ap fxp4 192.168.0.0/24 -> 0/32 and I didn't even enable ipfilter in /etc/rc.conf, only ipnat. This was my minimalist test to see if perhaps pf was somehow to blame. It turns out that with IPFILTER all works well. So, I guess I'm sticking with IPFILTER. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 05:48:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7730F1065678 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:48:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315378FC43 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:48:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so1343733qwe.7 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:48:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4BVMcaDRlvdxLvXiY+mnr0qKr4fiR8g3tbY9x//Bua8=; b=im7ASDKaddwC9doq7cH3mcTB/fcReuzLWr1Q/eNU1G3oMQgRBOkxcsHu6igFBpS7Rh CZUZorcTpEPojR+fCf0PLrBqjnKLyWb2hfyESgxl9CrXWQaW8MI0+H5mMX1pgJoIK7Th V5sWoK2v+1nphuqXcUKMMI8wwlQ2DiOyq+QRo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gDcYfdFZiJ7++KfUsVe2doVXRdAeHOFkUyZUyjxm/DjsrH847uGI7+t147fPUm9Stu ESXFSrWqm1CfQkoc9hGtyLHumpkecM1zLxWwtTGWo+pAmDUD1lYsUmoqYNh0crDTeu4P 09n4KWN5Qwbc+g4iVU0U4JeGzkeKXRSUeTZ9s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.99.212 with SMTP id v20mr1757039qcn.28.1249968234776; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:23:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:23:54 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640908102223h20aa3e0fsb2aa8670af628a55@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Raisa Brokhshtut Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:48:05 -0000 > My old desktop has FreeBSD that I have never used. One of the friends of = my son installed it long ago, but no one used that PC since then. Now I wan= t to get rid of this program and to install Windows.=A0Every time when I bo= ot this PC it prompts=A0for a user login which I don't know. This guy who i= ntalled FreeBSD is not around anymore. > > Anyway, I would greatly appreciate if you would guide me how to uninstall= that program. I don't have windows reskue cd. So I want to completly remov= e that FreeBSD from my PC and to install=A0the Windows operating system fro= m CD. This is the best comic relief I've had in a while. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 06:05:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF341065672 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A268FC21 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:05:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so1148152and.13 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:05:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=C6+xOpBsTcj0iIBXjpJJYjSfZfdD+NRVzl+EFyjZd8s=; b=eLOkl5TG7b1VmUJ4Ruz1zagCoBXZqn+rNe5CeMaA8e3njS+Gvf3zSaArByBrweLxTV vIqbmusmgZwNpYRYkTnZb1eJDnZCqQBwDSzyo/jYxqCFYSeJelmRi4omLceZl2iiY1sB Kr616W3tgXTWF/7jWW6roSM22L8fon29BbA74= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sVxjkaYNHyAZAPflxZnNnY6/vvqmHmCPvRzcx8HksTWlFYarXMia1PTrLZyQSxi/oD /o2YbvK57vFoawWrO5qo0E7aP5SOFAusgW/45T9ZXARyqaaSzCNL19AP4br3OSELHMU8 XgU9K7I5EJRaOVdIXf2G66rNaSM0d0rDhb2kQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.228.17 with SMTP id a17mr4736875anh.31.1249970704742; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:05:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4d4e09680908102237u27f8b370s7bfe4b2ede3321ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <4d4e09680908100838h6d42432fwd0ec9a10d145b809@mail.gmail.com> <20090810170248.GB49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A805CD8.2030508@beanfield.com> <4d4e09680908102237u27f8b370s7bfe4b2ede3321ab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:05:04 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Identry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: toaster or do-it-myself? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:05:06 -0000 On 8/10/09, Identry wrote: > Frack... qmail is impossible. I've been hacking at this for 14 hours > and it's just not working. I must be stupid. If you're open to suggestions, there are two typical camps on this. first one being a majority. I've done both, and don't know which one to favor 1) A mix-n match bag of software daemons that make it all work: postfix MTA, dovecot POP3/IMAP, your choice of virtual user database, squirrelmail (or another webmail) product. That gives basic functions. Add anti-spam (spamassassin is common), and anti-virus (clamav). 2) Install Courier suite, in which the same developers have a MTA, POP3/IMAP, webmail suite. Add Anti-Spam and Anti-Virus and your kit is complete. For the first time, I was able to install an email subsystem that eliminates all spam without an anti-spam software app. Based on the blacklists for known spammers, and a blacklist for accidental spammers, we're curbing most if not all other spam mails from being accepted by the MTA. The first blacklist are blocked by the firewall, second blacklist is checked at each incoming connection and the MTA will send notice to the remote connection (in the event it's a real person sending mail from a spamming host), on how to clear themselves. There isn't any AV suite to speak of, but if we're killing all susceptable spams, the viruses are from the same bunch so we're killing two birds with one stone. Soon, I'll revisit Courier and see if my same mail setup is able to accomplish the same goal, and I know the first blacklist will happen, it's the 2nd I'm not so sure about. Getting a toaster-application is nice, speedy setup. but you work with it's limitations or drawbacks. Building your own gives more flexibility, and depending on setup, it'll be no more than a toaster-application -- or a whole lot more. Ask us questions, there's lots of posts online. For a quick setup, i always - Install FreeBSD - Run freebsd-update fetch install && reboot - Install binary packages, and update them using your choice port upgrade utility, if any That's the quickest way to get a server live and operational... because a non-modified port options = same binary that's offered as a package. Identry, send me a mail offlist if you want clarification on this post. Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 06:34:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC191065672 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:34:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ws@au.dyndns.ws) Received: from ipmail02.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail02.adl6.internode.on.net [203.16.214.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCF68FC21 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:34:36 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApgBABeogEqWZWdv/2dsb2JhbAAI0GyEGQU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,358,1246804200"; d="scan'208";a="16206374" Received: from ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net (HELO [192.168.1.144]) ([150.101.103.111]) by ipmail02.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 11 Aug 2009 15:48:35 +0930 From: Wayne Sierke To: mahlerrd@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <526027.78512.qm@web51009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <526027.78512.qm@web51009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:48:32 +0930 Message-Id: <1249971512.63923.1045.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Don't let mergemaster beat you down [was Re: Failed update] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:34:37 -0000 On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 08:34 -0700, Richard Mahlerwein wrote: > I'm redoing the whole process in single user mode. My guess is I > goofed something during mergemaster and devd.conf is messed up. > (Mergemaster is, undeniably, my least favorite utility). I lost practically all of my 'mergemaster pain' when I adopted the habit of using it with -iUP options: -i Automatically install any files that do not exist in the des- tination directory. -P Preserve files that you replace in /var/tmp/mergemaster/preserved-files-, or another directory you specify in your mergemaster rc file. -U Attempt to auto upgrade files that have not been user modi- fied. "Try it - you'll like it!" Wayne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 06:39:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD71106567B for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:39:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uchimata@c7f.de) Received: from smtp.mail.uni-mannheim.de (mail-r86.rz.uni-mannheim.de [134.155.96.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FDD8FC2B for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:39:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.mail.uni-mannheim.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73538FF43B for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:19:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uni-mannheim.de Received: from smtp.mail.uni-mannheim.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail-r86.rz.uni-mannheim.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dCjEWNlDkmLI for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:19:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hlab.informatik.uni-mannheim.de (hlab.informatik.uni-mannheim.de [134.155.88.197]) by smtp.mail.uni-mannheim.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0414FEDA5 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:19:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 29967 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2009 08:23:15 +0200 Received: from i3ed6d588.versanet.de (HELO ?10.10.10.2?) (uchimata@c7f.de@62.214.213.136) by hlab.informatik.uni-mannheim.de with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 11 Aug 2009 08:23:15 +0200 Message-ID: <4A810D78.4000308@c7f.de> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:19:36 +0200 From: Matthias Luft User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4d4e09680908100838h6d42432fwd0ec9a10d145b809@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4d4e09680908100838h6d42432fwd0ec9a10d145b809@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070304090904020700000703" Subject: Re: toaster or do-it-myself? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:39:03 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070304090904020700000703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Identry wrote: > I need to use qmail because that's what was used on the old > mailserver, and all my backups are in Maildir format. I don't have > time to mess around converting all that mail to another format, so > that's my one fixed requirement. there is a great guide for installing qmail: http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ Of course, it just explains the technical steps for installing qmail, not mailserver setups in general (nevertheless there are some links about relaying etc.) Btw., do most reasonable MTAs support Maildirs, so you are not restricted to qmail. cheers, Matthias --------------ms070304090904020700000703 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIXDDCC BCEwggMJoAMCAQICAgDHMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMHExCzAJBgNVBAYTAkRFMRwwGgYDVQQK ExNEZXV0c2NoZSBUZWxla29tIEFHMR8wHQYDVQQLExZULVRlbGVTZWMgVHJ1c3QgQ2VudGVy MSMwIQYDVQQDExpEZXV0c2NoZSBUZWxla29tIFJvb3QgQ0EgMjAeFw0wNjEyMTkxMDI5MDBa 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by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:05:17 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: PmvAHw9v71b/Xyb0lVVahnU6mK/1HmGODuY1eVEqUwiT 1249974316 Received: from koala.therandymon.com (unknown [41.223.248.194]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 43F135CA5 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:05:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:04:25 +0100 From: Randall Wood To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090811070423.GA3515@koala> References: <200908102059.n7AKxha1075178@dc.cis.okstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200908102059.n7AKxha1075178@dc.cis.okstate.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Subject: Re: Trying to Install Man Page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:05:18 -0000 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 03:59:43PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > There is a test man page I am trying to install and the system > is not finding it. I put it in /usr/local/man/man1 and think > I should at least get complaints about the page as it is the > start of a man page, not the whole thing. I named it testpage, > compressed it with gzip and when I type > > man testpage, it just says that there is no manual entry for > testpage. > > Is there a data base I forgot to remake after adding the > page? I did make sure the ownership and permissions are the same > as other pages in the directory. I also did a man on one of the > other pages in that same directory and it came right up. Thank > you. > > Martin McCormick Yes, the program is mandb I think. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 08:30:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3907106566B for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:30:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9BB8FC3E for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:30:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so3925090fxm.36 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:30:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=GO1f+ZmVCm1DziF0mZEeTvB8ub6foqk7FsK/YAKE8hU=; b=hjrzx27LJBltTdH89eSjy13Q9NAC5b/nNU+yFCkOTHSyZLoPnVwWUN828qXJZUxonF /T/r3hWfHQjRb8f1uvrMhIA5LoR+QQPwpanvXdPwVFDrpwgye9gXlD9RA865ryNoH1V3 zoNG4fD9jyjos+YjKQHCES9KunhR4TJ5IQU9Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=J1wdhd6zn0LGDuPGL7BE7udLY25MGJnL2NI0pbsmdOZ7NOvbsEHGqSpE9GDHUwnZmT FSg5fRfy+d2PWPsx/UPBO2FRRhEXO50kA00coguduMa4kZ2MBi6nrHYnUhiUK0nIOUsc d7pq7WvTuyBLFEoZCmy3wxWNomxXrI3zhqQxo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.102.215.19 with SMTP id n19mr1464595mug.79.1249979450627; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:30:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:30:50 +0100 Message-ID: From: chris scott To: mojo fms Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Naeem Afzal Subject: Re: filesystem size after newfs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:30:52 -0000 2009/8/11 mojo fms > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Naeem Afzal wrote: > > > > > I created this small partition of 512K bytes on disk, I am noticing > > about 24% is used up before system can be mounted and used. My assumpti= on > > was about 4% is supposed to be used if minfree is set to 0. > > > > #newfs -U -l -m 0 -n -o space /dev/ad1d > > /dev/ad1d: 0.5MB (1024 sectors) block size 16384, fragment size 2048 > > using 1 cylinder groups of 0.50MB, 32 blks, 64 inodes with soft updates > > super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: > > 160 > > #mount /dev/ad1d /test > > #df -H /test > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > /dev/ad1d 391k 2.0k 389k 1% /test > > Could someone explain where the 512-391=3D121K of disk space went to= ? > What > > is the relation between this used of space and total paritition size or > is > > it some fixed ratio? > > Thanks & Regards > > Naeem > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for > Hotmail=AE. > > > > > http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=3DPID2= 3391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_express:082009_________________________= ______________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org< > http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=3DPID2= 3391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_express:082009_________________________= ______________________%0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org>mailing > list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > 5% to root, and the rest i am assuming file system blocks. Try making th= e > 512k partition bigger accounting for those things and you should be able = to > get it really close to 512k available. > > -- > Who knew > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > why do you want something that small? Could you not use an md device or tmpfs, they would probably be more efficient From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 10:00:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1122B106564A for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from mail.optimis.net (mail.optimis.net [69.104.191.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6058FC48 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:00:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (marvin.optimis.net [192.168.1.3]) by mail.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7B9LSXB034790 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:21:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7B9LRYw032486 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:21:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: (from george@localhost) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7B9LRE0032485 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:21:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:21:27 -0700 From: George Davidovich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090811092127.GA31920@marvin.optimis.net> References: <200908102059.n7AKxha1075178@dc.cis.okstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200908102059.n7AKxha1075178@dc.cis.okstate.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: Trying to Install Man Page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:00:52 -0000 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 03:59:43PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > There is a test man page I am trying to install and the system is not > finding it. I put it in /usr/local/man/man1 and think I should at > least get complaints about the page as it is the start of a man page, > not the whole thing. I named it testpage If your testpage manpage is located in a man1 directory, it has to be named testpage.1 (or gzipped as testpage.1.gz). For a man2 directory, the suffix is .2, and so on. Rename the file and I'm sure things will work fine. > , compressed it with gzip and when I type > > man testpage, it just says that there is no manual entry for testpage. > > Is there a data base I forgot to remake after adding the page? I did > make sure the ownership and permissions are the same as other pages in > the directory. I also did a man on one of the other pages in that same > directory and it came right up. Thank you. >From man(1): By default, man uses manpath(1) (which is built into the man binary) to determine the path to search. This option overrides the MANPATH environment variable. You can read manpath(1) for a full description of how things work (the configuration file used is /etc/manpath.config), but be sure to read man(1) in its entirety if you're going to get in the habit of writing your own manpages. More specifically, it describes the -w or -d options you can use for debugging fun, and the sometimes useful -M option[1]. As a side note, if the manpage is for your own use, I'd suggest using a hierarchy rooted in ~/man instead of /usr/local/man. That can offer numerous[2] benefits. ---------------------- 1. On Linux systems where you've installed FreeBSD manpages to improve your chances of finding more useful information than what's typically provided in the horrible info pages. 2. Aside from portability, it's especially useful on Windows systems where Cygwin is installed, but you're writing manpages for Windows (where the documentation is even more sparse than what's found in info pages, and no less clumsy to use). -- George From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 10:04:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CAB1065673 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:04:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahan@bol-online.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79EA8FC48 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:04:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so3103451qyk.3 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:04:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.81.67 with SMTP id w3mr1901837qck.6.1249983838523; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:43:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [115.127.8.85] Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:43:58 +0600 Message-ID: From: Aftab Jahan Subedar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Notice regards to gstreamer/kde4/qt/kdepim etc installation problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:04:03 -0000 Qt === Due to Qt version mismatch, any application referring to the new qt4-xxxxxx libraries not installed automagically hence NOT installing the intended package. You have to deinstall old qt-xxxxx referred libraries manually first. Then everything should work fine. Note that Qt has lots of qt4-xxxxxxx or xxxx-qt4 libraries, so reading the error properly will mostly prevail the info. gstreamer ------------- gstreamer plugins refers to libgstreamer-0.10.so.0 and after installing new gstreamer, got to link the new shared obect with the new one. Doing the following will solve the problem. cd /usr/local/lib ln -s libgstreamer-0.10.so.21 libgstreamer-0.10.so.0 I faced this problem while installing KDE4 on 7.2-STABLE #1: Sat Jun 27 12:05:03 UTC 2009 -- Aftab Jahan Subedar CEO/Software Engineer Subedar Technologies Ltd Subedar Baag Bibir Bagicha #1 North Jatra Bari Dhaka 1204 Bangladesh 88027554546 8801552635208 8801190753891 Radio: S21ST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 10:33:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9304C106564A for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:33:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahan@bol-online.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582828FC51 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:33:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so3110442qyk.3 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:33:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.86.131 with SMTP id s3mr1732805qcl.8.1249986808083; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:33:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [115.127.8.85] Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:33:28 +0600 Message-ID: From: Aftab Jahan Subedar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Oil installation problem while installing KDE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:33:29 -0000 need to link liboil-0.3.so.3 to liboil-0.3.so.0, so anyone having problem with this, can do the follwoing ln -s liboil-0.3.so.3 liboil-0.3.so.0 -- Aftab Jahan Subedar CEO/Software Engineer Subedar Technologies Ltd Subedar Baag Bibir Bagicha #1 North Jatra Bari Dhaka 1204 Bangladesh 88027554546 8801552635208 8801190753891 Radio: S21ST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 10:48:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556D4106566C for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:48:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8A88FC49 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:48:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at BSDLabs AB Message-ID: <4A814C91.5000909@intersonic.se> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:48:49 +0200 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090727) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Error code 254 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:48:54 -0000 ===> Installing documentation in /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing tests in /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing examples in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. *** Error code 254 What is "Error code 254" ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 11:54:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B945106564A for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD828FC21 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:54:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mapvf-0004Ux-0X; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:54:13 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Mapve-000259-4p; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:54:10 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7BBs8ci070892; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:54:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7BBs8Z1070888; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:54:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:54:08 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Kirk Strauser Message-ID: <20090811115408.GA70402@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <4A804863.3050801@strauser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A804863.3050801@strauser.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -3.5 X-Spam-Level: --- Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: graphics/ImageMagick seemingly not using OpenMP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:54:15 -0000 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:18:43AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: > On my FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE system (from July 29), I'm trying to enable > OpenMP for the graphics/ImageMagick port. With the IMAGEMAGICK_OPENMP > option set, I get this from "make configure": > > checking for cc -std=gnu99 option to support OpenMP... (cached) unsupported > checking for cc -std=gnu99 option to support OpenMP... -fopenmp > > If I go on to build it, there's no other mention of OpenMP in the > output. What am I doing wrong? I think the second like shows that OMP is indeed supported. Have you tested on any OMP test? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 12:40:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7A51065672 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:40:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339428FC20 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:40:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7BCduYf064771 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:39:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200908111239.n7BCduYf064771@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <64769.1249994396.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:39:56 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Trying to Install Man Page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:40:02 -0000 Randall Wood writes: > Yes, the program is mandb I think. That's exactly what I also thought but there is no such program. I think this may be one of those deprecation cases where the function is now done some other way. I'll keep digging. Thanks. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 12:46:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFAD106566B for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:46:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (dc.cis.okstate.edu [139.78.103.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE13E8FC20 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:46:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.cis.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by dc.cis.okstate.edu (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7BCkTrs094877 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:46:29 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200908111246.n7BCkTrs094877@dc.cis.okstate.edu> to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <94875.1249994789.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:46:29 -0500 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Trying to Install Man Page X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:46:30 -0000 George Davidovich writes: > If your testpage manpage is located in a man1 directory, it has to be > named testpage.1 (or gzipped as testpage.1.gz). For a man2 directory, > the suffix is .2, and so on. Rename the file and I'm sure things will > work fine. That was it! Thank you. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 13:14:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D9B106566B for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:14:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C068FC48 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:14:44 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KO7007Z9QXY8U60@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:03:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A816EC9.7070408@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:14:49 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:14:45 -0000 I just finished setting up 7.2 with all my programs installed, configured & working fine with recovered files all working fine and just as I boot up to start backing up everything... WHAM... the boot-up kind-of hobbles and boots up. I am called away from the computer and when I return - goodie, goodie, there is a dump of some 177 mbs and the poor computer is trying to r eboot... but that's it. And the I scan the guilty drive and it's the very first, boot, sector that is Baaaaaad. And the regenerator program doesn't go any further. :-( Other than booting up with livefs and trying to copy everything to another disk, is there something else that I should do? I think it should work if I connect the drive to USB ... But before, I thought I should listen to some sage advice... :-) Anyone? TIA PJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 13:22:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5600106566B for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:22:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782DB8FC45 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9A799EBC0A; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:22:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:22:14 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: PJ Message-Id: <20090811092214.e38fd90c.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <4A816EC9.7070408@videotron.ca> References: <4A816EC9.7070408@videotron.ca> Organization: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.7.0 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:22:20 -0000 In response to PJ : > I just finished setting up 7.2 with all my programs installed, > configured & working fine with recovered files all working fine and just > as I boot up to start backing up everything... WHAM... the boot-up > kind-of hobbles and boots up. > I am called away from the computer and when I return - goodie, goodie, > there is a dump of some 177 mbs and the poor computer is trying to r > eboot... but that's it. And the > I scan the guilty drive and it's the very first, boot, sector that is > Baaaaaad. And the regenerator program doesn't go any further. :-( > Other than booting up with livefs and trying to copy everything to > another disk, is there something else that I should do? > I think it should work if I connect the drive to USB ... > But before, I thought I should listen to some sage advice... :-) > Anyone? TIA I think you've got the right idea. If the drive is funky, get your data off it while you can. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 13:34:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A171F106564A for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:34:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79DCF8FC44 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:34:08 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KO700B3HRU8EI40@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:22:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A817355.20006@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:34:13 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Bill Moran References: <4A816EC9.7070408@videotron.ca> <20090811092214.e38fd90c.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-reply-to: <20090811092214.e38fd90c.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:34:08 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: > In response to PJ : > > >> I just finished setting up 7.2 with all my programs installed, >> configured & working fine with recovered files all working fine and just >> as I boot up to start backing up everything... WHAM... the boot-up >> kind-of hobbles and boots up. >> I am called away from the computer and when I return - goodie, goodie, >> there is a dump of some 177 mbs and the poor computer is trying to r >> eboot... but that's it. And the >> I scan the guilty drive and it's the very first, boot, sector that is >> Baaaaaad. And the regenerator program doesn't go any further. :-( >> Other than booting up with livefs and trying to copy everything to >> another disk, is there something else that I should do? >> I think it should work if I connect the drive to USB ... >> But before, I thought I should listen to some sage advice... :-) >> Anyone? TIA >> > > I think you've got the right idea. If the drive is funky, get your data > off it while you can. > I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and I'm wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it? Would doing a minimum 7.2 install be enough, followed by copying all the slices to the corresponding slices on the new disk? I'm thinking of mounting the broken drive on the new one and then copying... does that sound about right? I haven't looked at the broken one yet; I'll have to see what theat 177mg dump was.. -- Andrea Jourdan e-mail: af.gourmet@videotron.ca http://www.chiccantine.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 13:53:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0251065691 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:53:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AE28FC4B for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7BDNSAe070706 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:23:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <4A8170D0.8030709@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:23:28 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090803) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions References: <526027.78512.qm@web51009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1249971512.63923.1045.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> In-Reply-To: <1249971512.63923.1045.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Don't let mergemaster beat you down [was Re: Failed update] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:53:10 -0000 Wayne Sierke wrote: > I lost practically all of my 'mergemaster pain' when I adopted the habit > of using it with -iUP options: > > -i Automatically install any files that do not exist in the des- > tination directory. > -P Preserve files that you replace in > /var/tmp/mergemaster/preserved-files-, or another > directory you specify in your mergemaster rc file. > -U Attempt to auto upgrade files that have not been user modi- > fied. How does -U compare to -F? I've found that saves a lot of tedium. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 13:58:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FB01065674 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:58:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djuatdelta@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D9F8FC44 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so3724940ewy.43 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:58:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KeeMBsGgCumKWt2jeuMKxfyvrU8EKmTbi0Nk209Awsg=; b=tFPcQM2DCgazYJX5OqVBriGGtuQFrg/pMltINhldz3MYuLhNNCj/oebbEfJQ23hNgd Lx+SAtJSuv+iXchQ3ooCcI286vvgtn1gP07viFHtFknZtCX5shJPZIVDSxdKOVBsGKNT lV+/waK7h9IOXyTOGxiQ+8NfMJI1Xtv324ySY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wWxKY6YnFqOF/zUSJFKqaAdsNi+J1dthaWHuT3qZP2IfwsAsBuKTM7TGcgKvLc6RoE Zy5ILunUFDQ865n0YajCNQ/ErzxV44PgN9WK6pFxwm4q1cNNA5/vrgCcB3qCXUr8zDIu gzcqhfPGltBjxzM9L4UQyRPz6LMWLxoYboATU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.15.84 with SMTP id e62mr1245727wee.207.1249999087823; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:58:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7CC8BF71-9317-42AB-BA5F-AE8B4494EA57@gmail.com> References: <4A7ED26E.2030306@gmx.net> <7CC8BF71-9317-42AB-BA5F-AE8B4494EA57@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:58:07 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daniel Underwood To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Elias_Sch=E4fer?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD MATLAB R2008b X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:58:10 -0000 Sorry, haven't gotten around to this yet. Will try to this afternoon. On Sunday, August 9, 2009, Daniel Underwood wrote: > Elias, > > I got to a certain point, then temporarily put it aside. =A0See, I was in= stalling from a custom install disc, and so I'm not really surprised that t= he Handbook instructions for installing matlab on freebsd didn't completely= help me. > > However, I now have a standard install disc. I plan to retry the install = with this new disc. > > I "do" think I encountered java-related errors, but I can't recall the de= tails or whether it's what you're encountering. > > I'll reply to the list here once I attempt the install tomorrow. > > (Sent from my iPhone) > > On Aug 9, 2009, at 9:43 AM, Elias Sch=E4fer wrot= e: > > > Hello Daniel, > > I read your post (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/20= 09-July/202242.html) and applied your patch. First, it seemed to work (no s= se2 complaining) but then I got an Java related error that I could not solv= e. I have R14 running here, but I need to run a newer version. I am curious= if you got MATLAB r2008b working. Do you get a similar error? I am looking= for a solution for the past couple of days. > > regards > > Elias > (Aug 08, 2009 21:15:12)MATHWORKS ACTIVATION IS STARTING UP. > (Aug 08, 2009 21:15:13)java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /usr/home/knick/ma= tlabr2008b/bin/glnx86/libinstutil.so: libstdc++.so.6: cannot handle TLS dat= a > com.mathworks.instutil.NativeUtility.(NativeUtility.java:36) > com.mathworks.instutil.MachineInfo.(MachineInfo.java:40) > com.mathworks.activationclient.model.ActivationModelImpl.loadNativeLib(Ac= tivationModelImpl.java:216) > com.mathworks.activationclient.model.ActivationModelImpl.getMachineInfo(A= ctivationModelImpl.java:189) > com.mathworks.activationclient.view.ApplicationViewImpl.getMachineInfo(Ap= plicationViewImpl.java:200) > com.mathworks.activationclient.view.ApplicationViewImpl.showGUI(Applicati= onViewImpl.java:79) > com.mathworks.activationclient.controller.ApplicationControllerImpl.start= (ApplicationControllerImpl.java:99) > com.mathworks.activationclient.ActivationApplication.main(ActivationAppli= cation.java:31) > > (Aug 08, 2009 21:15:13)null > com.mathworks.activationclient.view.ApplicationViewImpl.showGUI(Applicati= onViewImpl.java:79) > com.mathworks.activationclient.controller.ApplicationControllerImpl.start= (ApplicationControllerImpl.java:99) > com.mathworks.activationclient.ActivationApplication.main(ActivationAppli= cation.java:31) > > (Aug 08, 2009 21:15:24)There was an unexpected exception: > > null > > See the log file (/tmp/aws.log) for more details. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 14:04:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB40F106566B for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE698FC3E for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:04:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MarxX-00073r-Kq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:04:24 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MarxW-0003oC-Ry for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:04:15 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7BE4EOh087141 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:04:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7BE4ExA087140 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:04:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:04:14 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090811140414.GA87113@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.2 X-Spam-Level: - Subject: glxgears on 8.0 current X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:04:26 -0000 In many online articles I've seen suggestions to use glxgears to check whether OpenGL is installed correctly. I've libGL-7.4.4 and mesagl-mangled-5.0.2 installed on FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 ia64 but cannot find glxgears. What am I missing here? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 14:18:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8976106564A for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:18:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979318FC4D for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MasAw-0005Yt-5Z; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:18:08 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MasAv-0003wo-OL; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:18:05 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7BEI5I0087208; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:18:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7BEI5Ll087207; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:18:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:18:05 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20090811141805.GB87183@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090811140414.GA87113@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090811140414.GA87113@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.8 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: glxgears on 8.0 current X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:18:10 -0000 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 03:04:14PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > In many online articles I've seen suggestions to > use glxgears to check whether OpenGL is installed > correctly. I've > > libGL-7.4.4 and mesagl-mangled-5.0.2 > > installed on > > FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 ia64 > > but cannot find glxgears. > > What am I missing here? forgot to say that I need to check OpenGL because I have some problems with port science/paraview, which depends on libGL, and probably on mesagl, via VTK. many thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 14:18:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9054F1065670 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:18:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0E58FC3F for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:18:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com ([98.150.187.245]) by hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090811141821366.SSUW15589@hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com>; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:18:21 +0000 Received: from holstein.holy.cow (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F10633CD; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:20:27 -1000 (HST) Received: (from parv@localhost) by holstein.holy.cow (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n7BEKQLX003582; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:20:26 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) X-Authentication-Warning: holstein.holy.cow: parv set sender to parv@pair.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:20:26 -1000 From: parv@pair.com To: Wayne Sierke Message-ID: <20090811142026.GA3283@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Wayne Sierke , mahlerrd@yahoo.com, FreeBSD-Questions References: <526027.78512.qm@web51009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1249971512.63923.1045.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1249971512.63923.1045.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , mahlerrd@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Don't let mergemaster beat you down [was Re: Failed update] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:18:22 -0000 in message <1249971512.63923.1045.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse>, wrote Wayne Sierke thusly... > > On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 08:34 -0700, Richard Mahlerwein wrote: > > I'm redoing the whole process in single user mode. My guess is > > I goofed something during mergemaster and devd.conf is messed > > up. (Mergemaster is, undeniably, my least favorite utility). > > I lost practically all of my 'mergemaster pain' when I adopted the > habit of using it with -iUP options: > > -i Automatically install any files that do not exist in the des- > tination directory. > -P Preserve files that you replace in > /var/tmp/mergemaster/preserved-files-, or another > directory you specify in your mergemaster rc file. > -U Attempt to auto upgrade files that have not been user modi- > fied. Ah. My mnemonic would be "PiU" as in "Pew! Pew!". - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 14:33:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B669C106566C for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:33:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mahlerrd@yahoo.com) Received: from web51002.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51002.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 721248FC15 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 84867 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Aug 2009 14:33:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250001183; bh=lY0HGTfWqwBZRlkFG3RoCs+YdBXhEJ+wfoxB3VgrhCM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Ix5pLU/i142nI5drQUokZdClgjvjPKu/zHSFMDnj+vgdzDKNPTXBWo1+hyPN3IDTiI3Pfy/Z21BtqkJ+w6yZukooyCc/4c3XtpITV8vxCEcc4s2WebAobZ6r2t5tlz6furoclGtPYFdu12aJJfJAPQEzZRhHwd2m66/A37wJngs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IZJydGUOphbcqL5ya38mxkMuXytyGXL+u6/RdNxHqYcd371bK4AjxQtqTKniQrsRKsb4xzP0j/R5hJj8VAwc4BxBUA3HwEo/SsVIEvdpfTxQ8ElpeDkaHu4h8PLPKYt9XhRTvCIhX8t4gEkU/6YqUdFquiPUr1FfAjiYuMU7UrQ=; Message-ID: <762781.84246.qm@web51002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: jR4XnhoVM1mvXl5PpIyyZ66sejdJEYx6hatGgYfvzj1tUAxtvcXZ1nlBBJol5P4O35JSHSt24ZbhBSF.gRT9nTL_OL8kbB8CSfEtwoPWYAqDw4oLdL5nNekIr8lQ1listH4MHbiOUezAUACDPHsQfDWtQOdzQHLoBnke7Rnb9K8QLNjGfptn5EFPPC3URzHteaqojJMSL3uw51ZMbLiEVSwJRVtIU7MPhB6KxCW5nhgMPsQ1jMpZ61bkGZXMbdYn_Iek_AAJqMlzPH1jF19YYhCim5LDC9HJnHz3iVXn5HVRdotMEPANM_ZkzYdhGBAnQS90RQt.HPcw8ur4iATAscvHM3PnZ95jOzH9 Received: from [24.123.91.202] by web51002.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:33:03 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.1 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:33:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Mahlerwein To: FreeBSD-Questions In-Reply-To: <1249971512.63923.1045.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Don't let mergemaster beat you down [was Re: Failed update] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mahlerrd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:33:05 -0000 --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Wayne Sierke wrote: > From: Wayne Sierke > Subject: Don't let mergemaster beat you down [was Re: Failed update] > To: mahlerrd@yahoo.com > Cc: "FreeBSD-Questions" > Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 2:18 AM > On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 08:34 -0700, > Richard Mahlerwein wrote: > > I'm redoing the whole process in single user > mode.=A0 My guess is I > > goofed something during mergemaster and devd.conf is > messed up. > > (Mergemaster is, undeniably, my least favorite > utility).=A0=20 >=20 > I lost practically all of my 'mergemaster pain' when I > adopted the habit > of using it with -iUP options: >=20 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -i=A0=A0=A0 > Automatically install any files that do not exist in the > des- > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > tination directory. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -P=A0=A0=A0 Preserve > files that you replace in > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > /var/tmp/mergemaster/preserved-files-, or > another > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > directory you specify in your mergemaster rc file. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -U=A0=A0=A0 Attempt to > auto upgrade files that have not been user modi- > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > fied. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 > "Try it - you'll like it!" >=20 >=20 > Wayne Thanks for the tips! =20 I'll have more info in a couple of weeks on this - I'm in training and not= at home until thursday, and Friday we leave to visit relatives for another= week. =20 I did do the rebuild all in single-user mode before I left Sunday, and now = I get another signal 12 core crash, at the *same* virtual address, but in a= *different* utility... don't remember which one right now, but it seemed c= ompletely unrelated. When I get home in a few weeks, I'm going to run some memory tests and yank= ing extraneous hardware to try to see if I can make it stop. Anything else= you all can think of to try? Thanks, Rich =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 14:38:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A955106564A for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:38:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:a80a:1:21f:d0ff:fe22:b8a8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498E98FC1F for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:38:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C835C0C3; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:38:55 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09Z0ZVraIy7Y; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:38:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pooh.honeypot.net (pooh.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:a80a:1:20a:95ff:fed5:10f2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 457305C0B8; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:38:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <5F4E768D-0BAB-44A0-BFCB-9D3119451132@strauser.com> From: Kirk Strauser To: Anton Shterenlikht In-Reply-To: <20090811115408.GA70402@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:38:52 -0500 References: <4A804863.3050801@strauser.com> <20090811115408.GA70402@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: graphics/ImageMagick seemingly not using OpenMP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:38:56 -0000 On Aug 11, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:18:43AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: >> On my FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE system (from July 29), I'm trying to enable >> OpenMP for the graphics/ImageMagick port. With the >> IMAGEMAGICK_OPENMP >> option set, I get this from "make configure": >> >> checking for cc -std=gnu99 option to support OpenMP... (cached) >> unsupported >> checking for cc -std=gnu99 option to support OpenMP... -fopenmp >> >> If I go on to build it, there's no other mention of OpenMP in the >> output. What am I doing wrong? > I think the second like shows that OMP is indeed supported. > Have you tested on any OMP test? But the rest of the build doesn't give any indication. Specifically, the "-fopenmp" flag isn't used anywhere. I've tested that OMP works - or at least compiles - but I don't know of any way to find if a given binary was actually compiled with it. -- Kirk Strauser From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 14:43:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF761065673 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [83.235.67.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DEB8FC5D for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from atomic.dyndns.org (athedsl-4465827.home.otenet.gr [94.71.100.147]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n7BEgkof016581; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:42:47 +0300 Message-ID: <4A818366.8050806@otenet.gr> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:42:46 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anton Shterenlikht References: <20090811140414.GA87113@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20090811141805.GB87183@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090811141805.GB87183@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: glxgears on 8.0 current X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:43:41 -0000 Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 03:04:14PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >> In many online articles I've seen suggestions to >> use glxgears to check whether OpenGL is installed >> correctly. I've >> >> libGL-7.4.4 and mesagl-mangled-5.0.2 >> >> installed on >> >> FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 ia64 >> >> but cannot find glxgears. >> >> What am I missing here? >> > > forgot to say that I need to check OpenGL because > I have some problems with port science/paraview, which > depends on libGL, and probably on mesagl, via VTK. > > many thanks > > Just install graphics/mesa-demos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 14:50:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8801C1065673 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:50:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=4679686f8=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580788FC15 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:50:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,360,1246856400"; d="scan'208";a="16103995" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-001.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 11 Aug 2009 09:39:34 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4A1584E94D; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:39:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:39:34 +0000 From: Paul Schmehl To: Wayne Sierke , mahlerrd@yahoo.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1249971512.63923.1045.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> References: <526027.78512.qm@web51009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1249971512.63923.1045.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Don't let mergemaster beat you down [was Re: Failed update] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:50:50 -0000 --On Tuesday, August 11, 2009 01:18:32 -0500 Wayne Sierke wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 08:34 -0700, Richard Mahlerwein wrote: >> I'm redoing the whole process in single user mode. My guess is I >> goofed something during mergemaster and devd.conf is messed up. >> (Mergemaster is, undeniably, my least favorite utility). > > I lost practically all of my 'mergemaster pain' when I adopted the habit > of using it with -iUP options: > > -i Automatically install any files that do not exist in the des- > tination directory. > -P Preserve files that you replace in > /var/tmp/mergemaster/preserved-files-, or another > directory you specify in your mergemaster rc file. > -U Attempt to auto upgrade files that have not been user modi- > fied. > > "Try it - you'll like it!" > That's one way to do it. Another is to use /etc/mergemaster.rc. Here's mine: # less /etc/mergemaster.rc # Automatically install files that do not exist AUTO_INSTALL='yes' # Automatically upgrade files that have not been edited AUTO_UPGRADE='yes' # Ignore files that I don't want changed IGNORE_FILES='/etc/motd' # Do not display changes that only affect whitespace DIFF_FLAG="'.Bub'" # Ignore CVS id lines to stop replacing files where only that line has changed DIFF_OPTIONS='-I$FreeBSD:.*[$]' I never have issues with mergemaster because of this file. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 14:50:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BE5106564A for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from identry@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCD48FC21 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so861036eyd.7 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:50:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=41y2YbjN7nqkWmfzpgO3oi/wLY8ukcvfmyJEWqZ5atk=; b=e9w5xDLlv1ifCwxQGmMoI1k7rVlARftSJPeASQqG2S3BepYc+6I36OYtsBHcMv3z01 pT3V3yeR/Q4EhrKUhMGalx5+18iqlTCqH6UECZ+iqk6eQe2GCLhXeru/MdQ/tAZ2i13t tMOBrznsIbDAWP4vaVftdjDqIdgdDE6PItvd4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=LyEbWOVypzxTo3a7w8iXG/que4V91Jhh/XoPrU0+SyKoQ704Lwxhmc5XUoKtRi4VEh 74vrbuVeMiRd3XHzfRJur6O/jhm9DFD84sCA8QqIKCDbTecdVwj01i/t2j3Rvoida3r0 QQnyV5dgyKXRfoa4Yxi3naQhizrUEEOFVxtUE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.28.85 with SMTP id f63mr1304982wea.142.1250002254062; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:50:54 -0400 Message-ID: <4d4e09680908110750s68cb93c3r1cad8277012920d5@mail.gmail.com> From: Identry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: location of user crontab files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jalmberg@identry.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:50:56 -0000 Where are user crontab files stored in the file system? I used to create user crontab files and then load them with 'crontab name-of-cronfile', but then I got clever and discovered 'crontab -e'. The problem is, that doesn't give me the 'backup' of having a text crontab file. The system must store the info somewhere so it's available after a reboot, but where? I want to make sure this info is backed up. Thanks: John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 14:52:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1896A106566C for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:52:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7B58FC43 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:52:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7BEqa7P017412; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:52:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n7BEqaQA017409; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:52:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:52:36 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: parv@pair.com In-Reply-To: <20090811142026.GA3283@holstein.holy.cow> Message-ID: References: <526027.78512.qm@web51009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1249971512.63923.1045.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> <20090811142026.GA3283@holstein.holy.cow> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:52:36 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Don't let mergemaster beat you down [was Re: Failed update] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:52:39 -0000 On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, parv@pair.com wrote: > in message <1249971512.63923.1045.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse>, > wrote Wayne Sierke thusly... >> >> On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 08:34 -0700, Richard Mahlerwein wrote: >>> I'm redoing the whole process in single user mode. My guess is >>> I goofed something during mergemaster and devd.conf is messed >>> up. (Mergemaster is, undeniably, my least favorite utility). >> >> I lost practically all of my 'mergemaster pain' when I adopted the >> habit of using it with -iUP options: >> >> -i Automatically install any files that do not exist in the des- >> tination directory. >> -P Preserve files that you replace in >> /var/tmp/mergemaster/preserved-files-, or another >> directory you specify in your mergemaster rc file. >> -U Attempt to auto upgrade files that have not been user modi- >> fied. > > Ah. My mnemonic would be "PiU" as in "Pew! Pew!". I prefer phooey mode: -FUi. Still works with -PFUi. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 14:53:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649EB10656E5 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:53:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from srv0008.pine.nl (srv0008.pine.nl [213.156.9.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A6F8FC4F for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srv0008.pine.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0373A3980; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:53:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pine.nl Received: from srv0008.pine.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srv0008.pine.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id rhSfcuX9a8RW; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:53:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fileserver.pine.nl (unknown [77.163.240.244]) by srv0008.pine.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF4D3A3996; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:53:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from freelt.pine.nl (unknown [172.16.0.46]) by fileserver.pine.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579E1130EA4; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:53:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A8185CE.9090604@isafeelin.org> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:53:02 +0200 From: Frederique Rijsdijk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090701) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jalmberg@identry.com References: <4d4e09680908110750s68cb93c3r1cad8277012920d5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4d4e09680908110750s68cb93c3r1cad8277012920d5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: location of user crontab files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:53:08 -0000 Identry wrote: > Where are user crontab files stored in the file system? /var/con/tabs -- F From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 14:53:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78D310656F0 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:53:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746A18FC47 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:53:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Masj8-0007V8-I1; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:53:28 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Masj7-0004Sa-UG; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:53:26 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7BErPd3092416; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:53:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7BErOxQ092403; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:53:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:53:24 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Kirk Strauser Message-ID: <20090811145324.GA87297@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <4A804863.3050801@strauser.com> <20090811115408.GA70402@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <5F4E768D-0BAB-44A0-BFCB-9D3119451132@strauser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5F4E768D-0BAB-44A0-BFCB-9D3119451132@strauser.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -3.6 X-Spam-Level: --- Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: graphics/ImageMagick seemingly not using OpenMP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:53:31 -0000 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 09:38:52AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Aug 11, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > >On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:18:43AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: > >>On my FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE system (from July 29), I'm trying to enable > >>OpenMP for the graphics/ImageMagick port. With the > >>IMAGEMAGICK_OPENMP > >>option set, I get this from "make configure": > >> > >>checking for cc -std=gnu99 option to support OpenMP... (cached) > >>unsupported > >>checking for cc -std=gnu99 option to support OpenMP... -fopenmp > >> > >>If I go on to build it, there's no other mention of OpenMP in the > >>output. What am I doing wrong? > > >I think the second like shows that OMP is indeed supported. > >Have you tested on any OMP test? > > But the rest of the build doesn't give any indication. Specifically, > the "-fopenmp" flag isn't used anywhere. I've tested that OMP works > - or at least compiles - but I don't know of any way to find if a > given binary was actually compiled with it. I haven't got any SMP IM tests, so cannot advise on this. If you know of some, let me know, I'd like to test my SMP box. Have you also built perl-threaded? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 14:57:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CFCA10656B4 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:57:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from identry@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10498FC4E for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:57:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so3769822ewy.43 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:57:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6JE6tBu0lyUwxuh+T4dWlDi1INR6b+vhDRqWgeA+vW8=; b=aX2EfqVBKHPBdB9Tgxb6yndltkGf0fJmNVVBfqQYJ65uSqL4Q/IYoSSYYdnpU8SilO v4Ucm1q/A/ifiCyEiXJNwOg6yJIA42gjR4eEd5/On+cck9yM5I6EcH/jbozWtPK6ne9S 2wsZG+3xJVgD8XT5WiRClf7PZ0fssJxPBvOfY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WdeuusyaNV/AOEej9v18dpDD05AOciOo0CuXj4pBTJ88sMwUIRwFoXLVVUWJMe6KWD mDAD2PxZ8QzvqASr1kHBl8fWGCzpZiD0H/kNXMIBA73MFS76l7/RYfRjq/0GkZabrSpB /X3nK/2YNdKzMTLRKnreC14xwOUkC44EQDII0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.48.1 with SMTP id u1mr1275763web.189.1250002635901; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:57:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A810D78.4000308@c7f.de> References: <4d4e09680908100838h6d42432fwd0ec9a10d145b809@mail.gmail.com> <4A810D78.4000308@c7f.de> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:57:15 -0400 Message-ID: <4d4e09680908110757yc426961k28e8744097117fe@mail.gmail.com> From: Identry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: toaster or do-it-myself? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jalmberg@identry.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:57:20 -0000 > there is a great guide for installing qmail: > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ > Of course, it just explains the technical steps for installing qmail, > not mailserver setups in general (nevertheless there are some links > about relaying etc.) That's one of the docs that I was working from yesterday. I also have the O'Reilly Qmail book. Actually, I got qmail running fairly quickly using the procedures in the O'Reilly book. Unfortunately, it died and I then spent about 10 hours trying to figure out what the problem was. Well, I never did figure it out and I'm not ashamed to say that I've given up trying. Life's too short. I'm outsourcing the problem to a email service provider. I realized that running an email server properly is a full time job, and I already have 14 full time jobs. Eventually, you just have to say "Enough!" and let someone else handle some of the work. I've been hoping to have something useful to contribute to this forum. That's a lesson well worth passing on, I think! -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 15:03:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA866106564A for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=4673ab94f=pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82B28FC16 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:03:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,360,1246856400"; d="scan'208";a="14818147" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 11 Aug 2009 09:35:22 -0500 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A6FD44E94D; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:35:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:35:22 +0000 From: Paul Schmehl To: Identry , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4d4e09680908102237u27f8b370s7bfe4b2ede3321ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <4d4e09680908100838h6d42432fwd0ec9a10d145b809@mail.gmail.com> <20090810170248.GB49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A805CD8.2030508@beanfield.com> <4d4e09680908102237u27f8b370s7bfe4b2ede3321ab@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========B65610E1DA847AC69B01==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: toaster or do-it-myself? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:03:56 -0000 --==========B65610E1DA847AC69B01========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On Tuesday, August 11, 2009 00:37:50 -0500 Identry =20 wrote: > > Frack... qmail is impossible. I've been hacking at this for 14 hours > and it's just not working. I must be stupid. I can't speak to that, because I've never used qmail. However, I can tell you=20 that Postfix can do Maildir format, so you're not limited to qmail. --=20 Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========B65610E1DA847AC69B01==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 15:15:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD7A106566C for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8348FC1F for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:15:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587AF7E818 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:14:59 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:14:58 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4A814C91.5000909@intersonic.se> In-Reply-To: <4A814C91.5000909@intersonic.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908110714.58168.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Subject: Re: Error code 254 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:15:00 -0000 On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > ===> Installing documentation in /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. > ===> Installing tests in /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. > ===> Installing examples in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. > *** Error code 254 > > > What is "Error code 254" ? A program returning -2 to the shell. Is that useful info? No. Run make -dl install to see what goes wrong. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 15:27:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBF010656E5 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:27:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0E38FC53 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.93]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MatFa-0001eh-8V; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:27:02 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by seis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MatFZ-0004wv-IP; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:26:57 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7BFQvPI094320; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:26:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7BFQv5N094319; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:26:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:26:57 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Manolis Kiagias Message-ID: <20090811152657.GA94310@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090811140414.GA87113@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20090811141805.GB87183@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4A818366.8050806@otenet.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A818366.8050806@otenet.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -1.2 X-Spam-Level: - Cc: Anton Shterenlikht , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: glxgears on 8.0 current X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:27:03 -0000 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 05:42:46PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 03:04:14PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > >> In many online articles I've seen suggestions to > >> use glxgears to check whether OpenGL is installed > >> correctly. I've > >> > >> libGL-7.4.4 and mesagl-mangled-5.0.2 > >> > >> installed on > >> > >> FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 ia64 > >> > >> but cannot find glxgears. > >> > >> What am I missing here? > >> > > > > forgot to say that I need to check OpenGL because > > I have some problems with port science/paraview, which > > depends on libGL, and probably on mesagl, via VTK. > > > > many thanks > > > > > > Just install graphics/mesa-demos thank you -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 15:38:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240A3106566B for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:38:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:a80a:1:21f:d0ff:fe22:b8a8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87ED8FC3F for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:38:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DF6C122; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:38:19 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GMC+Ef3KnzRk; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:38:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pooh.honeypot.net (pooh.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:a80a:1:20a:95ff:fed5:10f2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9A761C10F; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:38:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <5CA054DD-AE8F-4728-9C0D-B6B244F04C1C@strauser.com> From: Kirk Strauser To: Anton Shterenlikht In-Reply-To: <20090811145324.GA87297@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:38:16 -0500 References: <4A804863.3050801@strauser.com> <20090811115408.GA70402@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <5F4E768D-0BAB-44A0-BFCB-9D3119451132@strauser.com> <20090811145324.GA87297@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: graphics/ImageMagick seemingly not using OpenMP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:38:21 -0000 On Aug 11, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > Have you also built perl-threaded? I just now recompiled Perl with threads enabled, then Imagemagick, with identical results. -- Kirk Strauser From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 15:41:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D6B10656ED for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:41:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B338FC63 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28DF21DAF4; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:41:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7BFfa94001523; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:41:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:41:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Message-Id: <20090811174136.d585e38c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <526027.78512.qm@web51009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1249971512.63923.1045.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> <20090811142026.GA3283@holstein.holy.cow> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-Questions , parv@pair.com Subject: Re: Don't let mergemaster beat you down [was Re: Failed update] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:41:39 -0000 On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:52:36 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > I prefer phooey mode: -FUi. Still works with -PFUi. "PFui" is German for something like "Ugh". I think that is NOT intended. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 15:52:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0040A106564A for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B420A8FC36 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:52:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914351DAF4; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:52:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7BFqT8L001547; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:52:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:52:29 +0200 From: Polytropon To: PJ Message-Id: <20090811175229.8c3eb361.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4A817355.20006@videotron.ca> References: <4A816EC9.7070408@videotron.ca> <20090811092214.e38fd90c.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4A817355.20006@videotron.ca> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:52:32 -0000 On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:34:13 -0400, PJ wrote: > I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and I'm > wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it? Maybe an 1:1 copy using dd with a bs=1m would work. > Would doing a minimum 7.2 install be enough, followed by copying all the > slices to the corresponding slices on the new disk? > I'm thinking of mounting the broken drive on the new one and then > copying... does that sound about right? No. Does not. :-) The proper way of doing this - or at least ONE of the proper ways - is to use the intended tools for this task. These are dump and restore. First of all, you use a FreeBSD live system (such as FreeSBIE) or the livefs CD of the FreeBSD OS to run the OS. The goal is: Most minimal interaction with the drives. Let's assume ad0 is your source disk and ad1 the target disk. You can use the sysinstall tool to slice and partition the target disk. You can create the same layout as on the source disk. Of course, using tools like bsdlabel and newfs is valid, too. If you're done, things go like this: 1. Check the source. # fsck /dev/ad0s1a /dev/ad0s1e /dev/ad0s1f /dev/ad0s1g /dev/ad0s1h Add -f (and dangerous -y) if intended. 2. You don't mount the source disk. Instead, you first prepare the target disk which you mount. Then you use dump and restore to transfer the data from the unmounted source partition to the mounted target partition. # mount /dev/ad1s1a /mnt # cd /mnt # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1a | restore -r -f - Keep an eye on where you mount it. Maybe the live system you use already employs /mnt for its own purposes. Create /target instead, or anything else you like. 3. After transferting /, continue with /tmp /var /usr and /home. # mount /dev/ad1s1a /mnt # cd /mnt # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1a | restore -r -f - # mount /dev/ad1s1e /mnt/tmp # cd /mnt/tmp # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1e | restore -r -f - # mount /dev/ad1s1f /mnt/var # cd /mnt/var # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1f | restore -r -f - # mount /dev/ad1s1g /mnt/usr # cd /mnt/usr # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1g | restore -r -f - # mount /dev/ad1s1h /mnt/home # cd /mnt/home # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1h | restore -r -f - Of course, triplepluscheck the commands before running them! 4. Unmount the target disks. # cd / # umount /mnt/home # umount /mnt/usr # umount /mnt/var # umount /mnt/tmp # umount /mnt # sync # halt Replace the disks and start using your target. > I haven't looked at the broken one yet; I'll have to see what theat > 177mg dump was.. Kernel image? -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 16:09:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54EEA106564A for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:09:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84028FC43 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:09:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so4199007fxm.36 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:09:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=kYwi7OrqciQl/HicmnqKF9L/ppJjHJm2GOIMzJHtbvk=; b=KO/Unhb8NvuE2hwxoI1FjkIVgLqAkN/4UN/19Q+pR79kzSOX9TKWDFwHpr6Th0Rrje V+88X0OqgXJ9ux6F74YSLILSCVUrBiqTV/9HgyjxHcLdOE9D1IcLZaaUhznm7WmbMK46 ojkwufSSi0M0hRDwPk/+IU4wVaETN5Kn+TjK0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=h1nDVggZvmzzXnLzJ8e/aGif2kimzTH4Icrrl9cQCDzhFjn/ARrkkfszhClezDn1Fn 0ffvuRhD8d5w0XR511l4jU7tehZ7iyX/5wKvqmO3K4QnqIsMPDumBz1fC31oBsrtvKed ksV+3FHn7Jf1TiWCVdbprTgquvlUcy9kZzGEg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.171.20 with SMTP id y20mr2491307muo.100.1250006978619; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:09:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090811175229.8c3eb361.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <4A816EC9.7070408@videotron.ca> <20090811092214.e38fd90c.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4A817355.20006@videotron.ca> <20090811175229.8c3eb361.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:09:38 +0100 Message-ID: From: chris scott To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: PJ , Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:09:40 -0000 2009/8/11 Polytropon > On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:34:13 -0400, PJ wrote: > > I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and I'm > > wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it? > > Maybe an 1:1 copy using dd with a bs=1m would work. > > > > > Would doing a minimum 7.2 install be enough, followed by copying all the > > slices to the corresponding slices on the new disk? > > I'm thinking of mounting the broken drive on the new one and then > > copying... does that sound about right? > > No. Does not. :-) > > The proper way of doing this - or at least ONE of the proper ways - > is to use the intended tools for this task. These are dump and > restore. > > First of all, you use a FreeBSD live system (such as FreeSBIE) or > the livefs CD of the FreeBSD OS to run the OS. The goal is: Most > minimal interaction with the drives. > > Let's assume ad0 is your source disk and ad1 the target disk. > > You can use the sysinstall tool to slice and partition the target > disk. You can create the same layout as on the source disk. Of > course, using tools like bsdlabel and newfs is valid, too. If > you're done, things go like this: > > 1. Check the source. > > # fsck /dev/ad0s1a /dev/ad0s1e /dev/ad0s1f /dev/ad0s1g /dev/ad0s1h > > Add -f (and dangerous -y) if intended. > > > > 2. You don't mount the source disk. Instead, you first prepare > the target disk which you mount. Then you use dump and restore > to transfer the data from the unmounted source partition to > the mounted target partition. > > # mount /dev/ad1s1a /mnt > # cd /mnt > # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1a | restore -r -f - > > Keep an eye on where you mount it. Maybe the live system you > use already employs /mnt for its own purposes. Create /target > instead, or anything else you like. > > > > 3. After transferting /, continue with /tmp /var /usr and /home. > > # mount /dev/ad1s1a /mnt > # cd /mnt > # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1a | restore -r -f - > > # mount /dev/ad1s1e /mnt/tmp > # cd /mnt/tmp > # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1e | restore -r -f - > > # mount /dev/ad1s1f /mnt/var > # cd /mnt/var > # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1f | restore -r -f - > > # mount /dev/ad1s1g /mnt/usr > # cd /mnt/usr > # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1g | restore -r -f - > > # mount /dev/ad1s1h /mnt/home > # cd /mnt/home > # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1h | restore -r -f - > > Of course, triplepluscheck the commands before running them! > > > > 4. Unmount the target disks. > > # cd / > # umount /mnt/home > # umount /mnt/usr > # umount /mnt/var > # umount /mnt/tmp > # umount /mnt > # sync > # halt > > Replace the disks and start using your target. > > > > > I haven't looked at the broken one yet; I'll have to see what theat > > 177mg dump was.. > > Kernel image? > > > -- > Polytropon > >From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Dumping is all very well and good. However if you want daily or hourly backups etc it is very costly. Thats why our in house system at work is based around rsync and zfs Basically we rsync the file to the x4500 with ~ 36 TB and then snapshot the backup. You then have incremental forever. On large systems that dont have much % change of content the benefits are huge From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 16:17:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC10106564A for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:17:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@e-e.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [64.156.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44FC8FC16 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:17:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eggman.experts-exchange.com (unknown [72.29.180.81]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B594A3FE19 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eggman.experts-exchange.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:17:04 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:17:04 -0700 From: Jason To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090811161704.GC99758@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <20090810162450.GD55676@eggman.experts-exchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090810162450.GD55676@eggman.experts-exchange.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p6 EGGMAN X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: freebsd-update-server, 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:17:23 -0000 Does anyone have any thoughts, or experience in using the freebsd-update-server code? Thanks, Jason On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 09:24:52AM -0700, Jason thus spake: >Hi. > >The freebsd-update-server project software hasn't been updated for 7,2, >but after making a couple of simple modifications, it seems to work rather well. > >I am close, but not quiet smoking the cigar of triumph, yet. > >When it initially builds, I get this error in the output: > >Fri Aug 7 18:50:56 PDT 2009 Extracting world+src for FreeBSD/amd64 >7.2-RELEASE >Sun Sep 12 01:51:21 UTC 2010 Building world for FreeBSD/amd64 7.2-RELEASE >Sat Sep 11 18:51:30 PDT 2010 Moving components into staging area for >FreeBSD/amd64 7.2-RELEASE >mv: rename /R/stage/trees to /R/trees/world: No such file or directory >Fri Aug 7 18:51:30 PDT 2009 Extracting extra docs for FreeBSD/amd64 >7.2-RELEASE >tar: could not chdir to '/R/trees/world' > >I would like to clear these errors up, as well... but... > >The only code change I have made is adding this to build.subr for the iso >fetch. Basically a path change. > >ISO=${FTP}/ISO-IMAGES-${TARGET}/${RELNUM}/${REL}-${TARGET}-disc1.iso > >However, it does build. I send the update to my update server, and need to >copy latest.ssl and pub.ssl from one of the official update servers from >FreeBSD. If I don't do that, I will get this error. > >freebsd-update fetch >Looking up xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx mirrors... none found. >Fetching metadata signature for 7.2-RELEASE from >xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ... invalid signature. >No mirrors remaining, giving up. > >If I do that, I then get to the next step: > >freebsd-update fetch >Looking up xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx mirrors... none found. >Fetching metadata signature for 7.2-RELEASE from >xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ... done. >Fetching metadata index... fetch: >http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/7.2-RELEASE/amd64/t/14e85c887f8e9ecaef130d50e3d2ddbb3664af22d9e05f652a66219bda5b76ba: >Not Found >failed. > >On the update server, I do have this file though under the "t" directory: >4eeb3a30c564302be5e8129e6afdf3477ff316a891b5a4b6c9535947b7a81e28 > >I am curious why it is requesting the wrong file. > >Here is my configuration file for 7.2: > ># SHA256 hash of RELEASE disc1.iso image. >export RELH=1ea1f6f652d7c5f5eab7ef9f8edbed50cb664b08ed761850f95f48e86cc71ef5 > ># Components of the world, source, and kernels >export WORLDPARTS="base catpages dict doc games info manpages proflibs" >export SOURCEPARTS="base bin contrib crypto etc games gnu include krb5 \ > lib libexec release rescue sbin secure share sys tools \ > ubin usbin" >export KERNELPARTS="generic" > ># EOL date >export EOL=1275289200 > >Thanks, >Jason > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 16:41:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44A91065677 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:41:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A148FC51 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615833D561; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:41:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7BGfCrG002116; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:41:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:41:12 +0200 From: Polytropon To: chris scott Message-Id: <20090811184112.db580b39.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4A816EC9.7070408@videotron.ca> <20090811092214.e38fd90c.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4A817355.20006@videotron.ca> <20090811175229.8c3eb361.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: PJ , Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:41:16 -0000 On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:09:38 +0100, chris scott wrote: > Dumping is all very well and good. However if you want daily or hourly > backups etc it is very costly. Thats why our in house system at work is > based around rsync and zfs That's of course true. Another option is using cpdup from ports, especially if your hardware is not good enough to keep ZFS usable. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 16:45:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51FBB1065673 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B3A8FC15 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5117C7E818; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:45:06 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:45:05 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <526027.78512.qm@web51009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1249971512.63923.1045.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse> <4A8170D0.8030709@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <4A8170D0.8030709@qeng-ho.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908110845.05423.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Arthur Chance Subject: Re: Don't let mergemaster beat you down [was Re: Failed update] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:45:07 -0000 On Tuesday 11 August 2009 05:23:28 Arthur Chance wrote: > Wayne Sierke wrote: > > I lost practically all of my 'mergemaster pain' when I adopted the habit > > of using it with -iUP options: > > > > -i Automatically install any files that do not exist in the des- > > tination directory. > > -P Preserve files that you replace in > > /var/tmp/mergemaster/preserved-files-, or another > > directory you specify in your mergemaster rc file. > > -U Attempt to auto upgrade files that have not been user modi- > > fied. > > How does -U compare to -F? I've found that saves a lot of tedium. -U saves a lot on major version upgrades as that tends to have a lot of changes in /etc/rc.*, something most of us don't touch by hand. However, the feature depends on having a fingerprint of the files, so that mergemaster can determine if you changed the file. Before using the feature and before upgrading it's therefore recommended to do a dry run so that the file (/var/db/mergemaster.mtree) is created. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 16:54:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B2F1065675 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:54:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0058FC40 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:54:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at BSDLabs AB Message-ID: <4A81A227.50300@intersonic.se> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:53:59 +0200 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090727) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel Flynn References: <4A814C91.5000909@intersonic.se> <200908110714.58168.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: <200908110714.58168.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error code 254 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:54:04 -0000 Mel Flynn wrote: > On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >> ===> Installing documentation in /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. >> ===> Installing tests in /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. >> ===> Installing examples in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. >> *** Error code 254 >> >> >> What is "Error code 254" ? > > A program returning -2 to the shell. Is that useful info? No. > Run make -dl install to see what goes wrong. is this useful? /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/share/pear/packages/pear-XML_Serializer-0.20.0 install -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/ports/devel/pear-XML_Serializer/work/package.xml /usr/local/share/pear/packages/pear-XML_Serializer-0.20.0 /usr/bin/env PKG_PREFIX=/usr/local /bin/sh /usr/ports/devel/pear/pear-install pear-XML_Serializer-0.20.0 POST-INSTALL *** Error code 254 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 17:09:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D2A106566C for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754448FC16 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:09:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7BH9lpF063376; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:09:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 483B6BAA6; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:09:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:09:47 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Jay Hall Message-ID: <20090811170947.GA88617@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <6206A242-7226-48E3-8D09-A1D3A651F2A8@socket.net> <20090810162528.GA49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20090810170921.GC49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gKMricLos+KVdGMg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup Size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:09:50 -0000 --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 09:24:19PM -0500, Jay Hall wrote: >=20 > On Aug 10, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Roland Smith wrote: >=20 > >> The fact that you are using tar also plays a part. Tar has some =20 > >> overhead to > >> store information about the files it contains. >=20 > Is it possible to calculate the amount of overhead tar will use? Just execute the tar command, and dump the output to /dev/null through dd: tar -cf - /etc |dd of=3D/dev/null tar: Removing leading '/' from member names 3160+0 records in 3160+0 records out 1617920 bytes transferred in 0.057690 secs (28045115 bytes/sec) This will give you the exact size without writing anything to disk. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqBpdsACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXt6wCeNAXOJ0BDs/vVk4DAi1wybZVX qLUAnRS3LC5zAUCc0G7a1Pq5wdgdOsa1 =Xdht -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gKMricLos+KVdGMg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 17:26:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0917106575B for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-311.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-311.bluehost.com [67.222.54.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 899BB8FC15 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:26:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17136 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 2009 17:26:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy6.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2009 17:26:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=JyzzJBtmchA01QEmSZ5Dc5nwFwFKnmvtti5G4rf02BS3FtErWq5GOx8i8fcFPLrftUCqhK2MRKJwxxUe/vCfV8JlSoxPlZApR4pn7mPmKU5nkJ2mOx4H1WyRq5HBK0kp; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mav7d-0002Pd-Tw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:26:54 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:19:23 -0600 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:19:23 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090811171923.GA36169@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090731085553.461f73be.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731114711.49d94196.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731170422.0574fef5.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731221532.ab004d5b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731205636.GB44613@kokopelli.hydra> <20090731231007.feec5a75.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090807061137.GA4290@kokopelli.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:26:56 -0000 --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:42:00PM -0400, Chris Hill wrote: > On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Chad Perrin wrote: >=20 > >On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 08:27:34AM -0400, Chris Hill wrote: > >> > >>Firefox has not had Ctrl-Q for some time. Try Alt-F followed by Q. I gu= ess > >>that's 2.5 keystrokes, but at least it's keystrokes. > > > >What version number would you call "some time" ago? I just used Ctrl-Q > >about six hours or so ago. >=20 > I've used it too, but more like six years ago. I have not kept notes on= =20 > the version numbers, just one day noticed Ctrl-Q not working anymore afte= r=20 > an update. But I would guess it was sometime around the 1.x -> 2.x=20 > transition. Maybe it's a Windows version thing, because I haven't been using 2.x for a while on FreeBSD, but I'm still using Ctrl-Q. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Coline MacDonald: "Don't burn your bridges while you're standing on them." --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqBqBsACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXngQCg3CkZrw3HypccvRM1L196bkma PG0AoMsu27qIU566+BO0G97OyyfsA3FC =FeCx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 17:27:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF23106566C for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:27:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2968FC50 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:27:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1ECF7E818; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:27:07 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:27:06 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4A814C91.5000909@intersonic.se> <200908110714.58168.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A81A227.50300@intersonic.se> In-Reply-To: <4A81A227.50300@intersonic.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908110927.06911.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Error code 254 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:27:10 -0000 On Tuesday 11 August 2009 08:53:59 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > Mel Flynn wrote: > > On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > >> ===> Installing documentation in > >> /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing tests in > >> /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing examples in > >> /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. *** Error code 254 > >> > >> > >> What is "Error code 254" ? > > > > A program returning -2 to the shell. Is that useful info? No. > > Run make -dl install to see what goes wrong. > > is this useful? > > /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/share/pear/packages/pear-XML_Serializer-0.20.0 > install -o root -g wheel -m 444 > /usr/ports/devel/pear-XML_Serializer/work/package.xml > /usr/local/share/pear/packages/pear-XML_Serializer-0.20.0 > /usr/bin/env PKG_PREFIX=/usr/local /bin/sh > /usr/ports/devel/pear/pear-install pear-XML_Serializer-0.20.0 POST-INSTALL > *** Error code 254 Yes, the post install script fails. Which means the command: /usr/local/bin/pear install -r -n -f \ /usr/local/share/pear/packages/pear-XML_Serializer-0.20.0/package.xml fails. Why, I don't know, perhaps you can add -v to the above command and see if anything useful is printed. In the meantime, I'll try to reproduce it. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 17:27:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA781065828 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:27:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-131.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-131.bluehost.com [67.222.39.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 180508FC3F for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17163 invoked by uid 0); 11 Aug 2009 17:27:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2009 17:27:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=HFdOx5+8p0YbDUvygtCDGK579klZjjaEHO5TGXzVbENMwZjzQAgPJuPahmlA9f/vdZuQkhlxURb5H9yu5HydDGTQ8GB/tLVExTgqexX2Er2OqbFQ2lVvRXOD750OE+26; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mav8Y-0003wd-4a for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:27:50 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:20:20 -0600 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:20:20 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090811172020.GB36169@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090731085553.461f73be.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731114711.49d94196.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731170422.0574fef5.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731221532.ab004d5b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731205636.GB44613@kokopelli.hydra> <20090731231007.feec5a75.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090807061137.GA4290@kokopelli.hydra> <4A7C1AD3.5060503@rcn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A7C1AD3.5060503@rcn.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:27:52 -0000 --cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 08:15:15AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > Chad Perrin wrote: >=20 > >>Firefox has not had Ctrl-Q for some time. Try Alt-F followed by Q. I=20 > >>guess that's 2.5 keystrokes, but at least it's keystrokes. > > > >What version number would you call "some time" ago? I just used Ctrl-Q > >about six hours or so ago. >=20 > The FreeBSD machine with Firefox is down but here on Windows, using=20 > a stock 3.0.13, Ctl-Q has no effect. Nor is it listed as a shortcut for= =20 > "Exit" under the [File] menu. Have you perhaps customized yours? > Now doing Ctl-W on the last window will close the program, but I=20 > like to keep the two separate; this is one (C list) reason I usually use= =20 > SeaMonkey. I don't have any custom keyboard shortcuts set up. It Just Works=E2=84=A2. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Christopher Hitchens: "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." --cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqBqFQACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUcUgCePbqlFpB45Ii/YAiBtJMZjI7i GU8AnRtcSBAn7vQobFkF7uD+45wolQui =ujTW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 17:31:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B3D1065679 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:31:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9568FC3F for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:31:57 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KO800J2I3CZMIW0@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A81AB08.2050205@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:31:52 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Polytropon References: <4A816EC9.7070408@videotron.ca> <20090811092214.e38fd90c.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4A817355.20006@videotron.ca> <20090811175229.8c3eb361.freebsd@edvax.de> In-reply-to: <20090811175229.8c3eb361.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:31:58 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:34:13 -0400, PJ wrote: > >> I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and I'm >> wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it? >> > > Maybe an 1:1 copy using dd with a bs=1m would work. > Sorry for my ignorance, but what language is that? :-) What's "dd with a bs=1m"? > > > >> Would doing a minimum 7.2 install be enough, followed by copying all the >> slices to the corresponding slices on the new disk? >> I'm thinking of mounting the broken drive on the new one and then >> copying... does that sound about right? >> > > No. Does not. :-) > > The proper way of doing this - or at least ONE of the proper ways - > is to use the intended tools for this task. These are dump and > restore. > > First of all, you use a FreeBSD live system (such as FreeSBIE) or > the livefs CD of the FreeBSD OS to run the OS. The goal is: Most > minimal interaction with the drives. > > Let's assume ad0 is your source disk and ad1 the target disk. > > You can use the sysinstall tool to slice and partition the target > disk. You can create the same layout as on the source disk. I'm being ultra careful and checking/regenerating the target disk and that will t ake another 4 or 5 hours. I don't expect any difficulties, but would like to "triple check" the procedure... Ok - boot up livefs, slice & partition the target disk; but how do I continue? Do I go to the shell? If that is all it is, then I don't see much difficulty. I'll read the man pages to check all the commands below so I am clear on everything. > Of > course, using tools like bsdlabel and newfs is valid, too. If > you're done, things go like this: > > 1. Check the source. > > # fsck /dev/ad0s1a /dev/ad0s1e /dev/ad0s1f /dev/ad0s1g /dev/ad0s1h > > Add -f (and dangerous -y) if intended. > > > > 2. You don't mount the source disk. Instead, you first prepare > the target disk which you mount. Then you use dump and restore > to transfer the data from the unmounted source partition to > the mounted target partition. > > # mount /dev/ad1s1a /mnt > # cd /mnt > # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1a | restore -r -f - > > Keep an eye on where you mount it. Maybe the live system you > use already employs /mnt for its own purposes. Create /target > instead, or anything else you like. > > > > 3. After transferting /, continue with /tmp /var /usr and /home. > > # mount /dev/ad1s1a /mnt > # cd /mnt > # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1a | restore -r -f - > > # mount /dev/ad1s1e /mnt/tmp > # cd /mnt/tmp > # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1e | restore -r -f - > > # mount /dev/ad1s1f /mnt/var > # cd /mnt/var > # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1f | restore -r -f - > > # mount /dev/ad1s1g /mnt/usr > # cd /mnt/usr > # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1g | restore -r -f - > > # mount /dev/ad1s1h /mnt/home > # cd /mnt/home > # dump -0 -f - /dev/ad0s1h | restore -r -f - > > Of course, triplepluscheck the commands before running them! > > > > 4. Unmount the target disks. > > # cd / > # umount /mnt/home > # umount /mnt/usr > # umount /mnt/var > # umount /mnt/tmp > # umount /mnt > # sync > # halt > > Replace the disks and start using your target. > > > > >> I haven't looked at the broken one yet; I'll have to see what theat >> 177mg dump was.. >> > > Kernel image? > If it is, do I need it or what do I do with it? It is obviously(?) saved somewhere like /tmp ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 18:01:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4126D106566B for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:01:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105228FC41 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6377E818 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:01:31 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:01:30 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4A814C91.5000909@intersonic.se> <4A81A227.50300@intersonic.se> <200908110927.06911.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: <200908110927.06911.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908111001.30205.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Subject: Re: Error code 254 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:01:32 -0000 On Tuesday 11 August 2009 09:27:06 Mel Flynn wrote: > On Tuesday 11 August 2009 08:53:59 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > > Mel Flynn wrote: > > > On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > > >> ===> Installing documentation in > > >> /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing tests in > > >> /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing examples > > >> in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. *** Error code 254 ... > In the meantime, I'll try to reproduce it. Which I can't. Patch below adds -v at the correct spot. -- Mel Index: devel/pear/pear-install =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/devel/pear/pear-install,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 pear-install --- devel/pear/pear-install 9 Dec 2005 18:58:03 -0000 1.1 +++ devel/pear/pear-install 11 Aug 2009 17:42:03 -0000 @@ -10,5 +10,5 @@ [ "x$1" = "x" ] && exit 1 if [ "x$2" = "xPOST-INSTALL" ]; then - ${PEAR} install -r -n -f ${PKGREGDIR}/package.xml + ${PEAR} -v install -r -n -f ${PKGREGDIR}/package.xml fi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 18:19:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88E1106566C for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:19:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B248FC42 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:19:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164E03D7A4; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:19:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7BIJOc2002628; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:19:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:19:24 +0200 From: Polytropon To: PJ Message-Id: <20090811201924.cfbb62a3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4A81AB08.2050205@videotron.ca> References: <4A816EC9.7070408@videotron.ca> <20090811092214.e38fd90c.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4A817355.20006@videotron.ca> <20090811175229.8c3eb361.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A81AB08.2050205@videotron.ca> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:19:28 -0000 On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:31:52 -0400, PJ wrote: > Sorry for my ignorance, but what language is that? :-) What's "dd with > a bs=1m"? That's English + UNIX, at least it should be. :-) I could have written "dd with a bs of 1m", which does simply mean that the program dd should be called with the parameter bs=1m, representing a blocksize of 1 MB. The command would then be: # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1 bs=1m given the suggestion that ad0 is the source disk, ad1 the target disk. It's worth mentioning that the MBR - if intact - should be copied with this command (afterwards I think): # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1 bs=512 count=1 Smart dd users will suggest omiting bs=512 because that's the default value. :-) Finally, commands can be used as verbs, such as "you then dd the ad0 onto ad1" or "can you grep that in /etc/something"? :-) > I'm being ultra careful and checking/regenerating the target disk and > that will t ake another 4 or 5 hours. That's the usual amount of time. I think you said approx. 100 GB disks? It may work faster if you don't run the transfer in master / slave mode (same cable), but in master / master mode (each drive on own cable); this affects (P)ATA only, as far as I know. > I don't expect any difficulties, > but would like to "triple check" the procedure... > > Ok - boot up livefs, slice & partition the target disk; but how do I > continue? Do I go to the shell? Yes. You can either use the shell of FreeBSD's live system, or use FreeSBIE, it has sysinstall on it, too, as far as I remember. But nobody stops you from not using sysinstall, but bsdlabel and newfs instead. Keep an eye on newfs options, especially if you want to enable soft updates or with to init the disks with a certain optimization, or a non-default inode ratio. > If that is all it is, then I don't see > much difficulty. I'll read the man pages to check all the commands below > so I am clear on everything. That's a good idea. I copied the command line examples from a procedure I once wrote for how to "clone" OS disks. > If it is, do I need it or what do I do with it? It is obviously(?) saved > somewhere like /tmp ... The kernel image is saved in /var/crash directory. It can be used for examination, in order to find out what caused the crash. Usually, the kernel debugger is employed to do this. If you don't care any further, you can safely delete the core files. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 18:32:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FADD1065670 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:32:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407978FC1F for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:32:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B13B1CC1E; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:32:43 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4A81B94A.3060608@hdk5.net> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:32:42 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Judd References: <4d4e09680908100838h6d42432fwd0ec9a10d145b809@mail.gmail.com> <20090810170248.GB49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A805CD8.2030508@beanfield.com> <4d4e09680908102237u27f8b370s7bfe4b2ede3321ab@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Identry , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: toaster or do-it-myself? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:32:45 -0000 Tim Judd wrote: > On 8/10/09, Identry wrote: >> Frack... qmail is impossible. I've been hacking at this for 14 hours >> and it's just not working. I must be stupid. > > > If you're open to suggestions, there are two typical camps on this. > first one being a majority. I've done both, and don't know which one > to favor > > > 1) A mix-n match bag of software daemons that make it all work: > postfix MTA, dovecot POP3/IMAP, your choice of virtual user database, > squirrelmail (or another webmail) product. That gives basic > functions. Add anti-spam (spamassassin is common), and anti-virus > (clamav). > > 2) Install Courier suite, in which the same developers have a MTA, > POP3/IMAP, webmail suite. Add Anti-Spam and Anti-Virus and your kit > is complete. > > > For the first time, I was able to install an email subsystem that > eliminates all spam without an anti-spam software app. Based on the > blacklists for known spammers, and a blacklist for accidental > spammers, we're curbing most if not all other spam mails from being > accepted by the MTA. The first blacklist are blocked by the firewall, > second blacklist is checked at each incoming connection and the MTA > will send notice to the remote connection (in the event it's a real > person sending mail from a spamming host), on how to clear themselves. > > There isn't any AV suite to speak of, but if we're killing all > susceptable spams, the viruses are from the same bunch so we're > killing two birds with one stone. > > > Soon, I'll revisit Courier and see if my same mail setup is able to > accomplish the same goal, and I know the first blacklist will happen, > it's the 2nd I'm not so sure about. > > > > Getting a toaster-application is nice, speedy setup. but you work > with it's limitations or drawbacks. Building your own gives more > flexibility, and depending on setup, it'll be no more than a > toaster-application -- or a whole lot more. > > > Ask us questions, there's lots of posts online. > For a quick setup, i always > - Install FreeBSD > - Run freebsd-update fetch install && reboot > - Install binary packages, and update them using your choice port > upgrade utility, if any > > That's the quickest way to get a server live and operational... > because a non-modified port options = same binary that's offered as a > package. > > > Identry, send me a mail offlist if you want clarification on this post. > > Good luck. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Aloha, After trying qmail and a couple other email systems I like Tim installed The postfix dovecot combo from FreeBSD ports. I have had it working on two separate servers for about 4 years I think. Recently I had to rebuild a server due to a hardware failure and was pleased to see that the maintainers had set the defaults to what I happen to use so all it took was checking the settings against my old install and up she went on the new machine. I second the #1 choice Tim made. Works for me here. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 18:49:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BE71065672 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gt@fallendusk.org) Received: from ysera.fallendusk.org (ysera.fallendusk.org [76.76.101.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A708FC4F for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:49:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.gogax.com [127.0.0.1]) by ysera.fallendusk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFF72842B for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:50:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at fallendusk.org Received: from ysera.fallendusk.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ysera.fallendusk.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tBRR22Zowjhb for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:50:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elune.home.fallendusk.org (unknown [99.32.39.87]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gt@fallendusk.org) by ysera.fallendusk.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CCA7E2842D for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:50:02 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:50:02 -0400 From: Gregory T Helton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090811145002.526768d6@elune.home.fallendusk.org> In-Reply-To: <4d4e09680908102237u27f8b370s7bfe4b2ede3321ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <4d4e09680908100838h6d42432fwd0ec9a10d145b809@mail.gmail.com> <20090810170248.GB49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A805CD8.2030508@beanfield.com> <4d4e09680908102237u27f8b370s7bfe4b2ede3321ab@mail.gmail.com> Organization: fallenDUSK X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: toaster or do-it-myself? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:49:04 -0000 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 01:37:50AM -0400, Identry wrote: > Frack... qmail is impossible. I've been hacking at this for 14 hours > and it's just not working. I must be stupid. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" If you're willing to look away from Qmail, I used the following guide as a basis when I moved my postfix mail server from Debian to FreeBSD. Postfix supports Maildir, and that's how the guide sets it up. I had some prior experience with postfix, having spent about 10-12 hours figuring it out from the official docs the first time I did it on Debian... but the guide will have you a working setup in <4 hours even without any prior experience. I think I had my FreeBSD mail server working in under 2. http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4 If you don't need all the stuff it lists, then only the mysql+postfix+dovecot will give you a working server. Postfixadmin may be needed aswell but I used a different SQL schema for my application so I'm not sure. --Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 18:49:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB23A106566B for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:49:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@socket.net) Received: from mf5.socket.net (mf5b.socket.net [216.106.26.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D398FC5A for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:49:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.129.40.203] (216.106.12.14.reverse.socket.net [216.106.12.14]) by mf5.socket.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A3B656FD; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:49:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <9D816CAA-73FA-4A30-BD97-FB38F9B1DC8C@socket.net> From: Jay Hall To: Roland Smith In-Reply-To: <20090811170947.GA88617@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:49:23 -0500 References: <6206A242-7226-48E3-8D09-A1D3A651F2A8@socket.net> <20090810162528.GA49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20090810170921.GC49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20090811170947.GA88617@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup Size X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:49:25 -0000 On Aug 11, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > > Just execute the tar command, and dump the output to /dev/null > through dd: > tar -cf - /etc |dd of=/dev/null > tar: Removing leading '/' from member names > 3160+0 records in > 3160+0 records out > 1617920 bytes transferred in 0.057690 secs (28045115 bytes/sec) > > This will give you the exact size without writing anything to disk. > Thanks. I had not thought of that. Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 18:53:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62C11065698 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:53:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B0D8FC42 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:53:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at BSDLabs AB Message-ID: <4A81BE21.2040005@intersonic.se> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:53:21 +0200 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090727) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel Flynn References: <4A814C91.5000909@intersonic.se> <4A81A227.50300@intersonic.se> <200908110927.06911.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <200908111001.30205.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: <200908111001.30205.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error code 254 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:53:26 -0000 Mel Flynn wrote: > On Tuesday 11 August 2009 09:27:06 Mel Flynn wrote: >> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 08:53:59 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>> Mel Flynn wrote: >>>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>>>> ===> Installing documentation in >>>>> /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing tests in >>>>> /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing examples >>>>> in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. *** Error code 254 > ... > >> In the meantime, I'll try to reproduce it. > > Which I can't. Patch below adds -v at the correct spot. Unfortunately that did not add much, the error looks exacktly as before, no change. I welcome more suggestions of course. (7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #0: Mon Aug 10 23:50:08 CEST 2009) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 19:02:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9A5106566C for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1198FC3D for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:02:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n7BIxR3B028216; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:59:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n7BIxRle028215; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:59:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:59:27 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090811185927.GA28192@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4A816EC9.7070408@videotron.ca> <20090811092214.e38fd90c.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4A817355.20006@videotron.ca> <20090811175229.8c3eb361.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A81AB08.2050205@videotron.ca> <20090811201924.cfbb62a3.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090811201924.cfbb62a3.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: PJ , Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:02:20 -0000 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 08:19:24PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:31:52 -0400, PJ wrote: > > Sorry for my ignorance, but what language is that? :-) What's "dd with > > a bs=1m"? > > That's English + UNIX, at least it should be. :-) > > I could have written "dd with a bs of 1m", which does simply mean that > the program dd should be called with the parameter bs=1m, representing > a blocksize of 1 MB. The command would then be: > > # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1 bs=1m > > given the suggestion that ad0 is the source disk, ad1 the target disk. > It's worth mentioning that the MBR - if intact - should be copied with > this command (afterwards I think): > > # dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/ad1 bs=512 count=1 > > Smart dd users will suggest omiting bs=512 because that's the default > value. :-) > > Finally, commands can be used as verbs, such as "you then dd the ad0 > onto ad1" or "can you grep that in /etc/something"? :-) Nice response, but don't forget to have the OP read the man page -- eg man dd ////jerry > > > > I'm being ultra careful and checking/regenerating the target disk and > > that will t ake another 4 or 5 hours. > > That's the usual amount of time. I think you said approx. 100 GB disks? > It may work faster if you don't run the transfer in master / slave mode > (same cable), but in master / master mode (each drive on own cable); > this affects (P)ATA only, as far as I know. > > > > > I don't expect any difficulties, > > but would like to "triple check" the procedure... > > > > Ok - boot up livefs, slice & partition the target disk; but how do I > > continue? Do I go to the shell? > > Yes. You can either use the shell of FreeBSD's live system, or use > FreeSBIE, it has sysinstall on it, too, as far as I remember. But > nobody stops you from not using sysinstall, but bsdlabel and newfs > instead. > > Keep an eye on newfs options, especially if you want to enable soft > updates or with to init the disks with a certain optimization, or > a non-default inode ratio. > > > > > If that is all it is, then I don't see > > much difficulty. I'll read the man pages to check all the commands below > > so I am clear on everything. > > That's a good idea. I copied the command line examples from a procedure > I once wrote for how to "clone" OS disks. > > > > > If it is, do I need it or what do I do with it? It is obviously(?) saved > > somewhere like /tmp ... > > The kernel image is saved in /var/crash directory. It can be used for > examination, in order to find out what caused the crash. Usually, the > kernel debugger is employed to do this. If you don't care any further, > you can safely delete the core files. > > > > > -- > Polytropon > >From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 20:12:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE9A106566C for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:12:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CED88FC15 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:12:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C657E818; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:12:19 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:12:18 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4A814C91.5000909@intersonic.se> <200908111001.30205.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A81BE21.2040005@intersonic.se> In-Reply-To: <4A81BE21.2040005@intersonic.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908111212.18661.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Error code 254 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:12:20 -0000 On Tuesday 11 August 2009 10:53:21 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > Mel Flynn wrote: > > On Tuesday 11 August 2009 09:27:06 Mel Flynn wrote: > >> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 08:53:59 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > >>> Mel Flynn wrote: > >>>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > >>>>> ===> Installing documentation in > >>>>> /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing tests in > >>>>> /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing examples > >>>>> in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. *** Error code 254 > > > > ... > > > >> In the meantime, I'll try to reproduce it. > > > > Which I can't. Patch below adds -v at the correct spot. > > Unfortunately that did not add much, the error looks exacktly as before, > no change. I welcome more suggestions of course. > > (7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #0: Mon Aug 10 23:50:08 CEST 2009) Well, it's hard if I can't reproduce it. Can you show the output of: make -C /usr/ports/devel/pear-XML_Serializer actual-package-depends -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 20:15:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A0B10656B0; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:15:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from getacoder34@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C508FC39; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so4369375fxm.36 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:15:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Rw4rRMYtNraWTaSGyZg7LyWTiRt4cabKE0NdHknxMrw=; b=b7on5Eax3FPxdt39Ng+Jp1P+Rm65/CNbS14nDPwWAza6Wd+2QAINoxiMPvXzp/QVK3 7yvb8bHi+GqwU7Mn87kTzClWZF+z/A4VjUaO1jfVL+sBK0zVid+HHsZOCbCNgUCpiLQk kFX36co//Bc2zq7pb7zpkuee8Ihov74WdrkaY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=dkl3BVhPKsT7JVaGXrYdisLDY8G7qDHw1aSosSZ6/qgqio9EELRZmWS2jR1FD3y2nb uyb7PodgJdaY52HBDBjAPljBhoBZASCHWS8As8WZgztRSmSXhiqieD6DqukwA/5GLdjM HZHP0tRifEaPBJb+O8uqUeAAjg9CFke6fwCWs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.52.20 with SMTP id e20mr1327291muk.35.1250019868163; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:44:28 +0200 Message-ID: From: get acoder To: questions@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Racoon VPN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:15:59 -0000 Hi there, I am refering to your very detailed doc http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ipsec.html I am exactly looking for the same features and setup, my only issue is that I cant find racoon as you are describing here: /usr/local/etc/racoon/racoon.conf I installed ipsec tools, compiled my kernel for IPSec only to find out that racoon2 is only available Any idea how where I ca find racoon v1 regards and tx From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 20:20:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E17106564A for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23328FC43 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:20:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at BSDLabs AB Message-ID: <4A81D270.2020907@intersonic.se> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:20:00 +0200 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090727) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel Flynn References: <4A814C91.5000909@intersonic.se> <200908111001.30205.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A81BE21.2040005@intersonic.se> <200908111212.18661.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: <200908111212.18661.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error code 254 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:20:05 -0000 Mel Flynn wrote: > On Tuesday 11 August 2009 10:53:21 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >> Mel Flynn wrote: >>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 09:27:06 Mel Flynn wrote: >>>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 08:53:59 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>>>> Mel Flynn wrote: >>>>>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>>>>>> ===> Installing documentation in >>>>>>> /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing tests in >>>>>>> /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing examples >>>>>>> in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. *** Error code 254 >>> ... >>> >>>> In the meantime, I'll try to reproduce it. >>> Which I can't. Patch below adds -v at the correct spot. >> Unfortunately that did not add much, the error looks exacktly as before, >> no change. I welcome more suggestions of course. >> >> (7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #0: Mon Aug 10 23:50:08 CEST 2009) > > Well, it's hard if I can't reproduce it. Can you show the output of: > make -C /usr/ports/devel/pear-XML_Serializer actual-package-depends I tried to locate the docs for pear, in particular the switches, but failed. Even at pear.php.net/manual I could not find them, are they installed on my system somewhere? Thanks! # make -C /usr/ports/devel/pear-XML_Serializer actual-package-depends pear-XML_Parser-1.3.2:devel/pear-XML_Parser pear-XML_Util-1.2.1:devel/pear-XML_Util pear-1.8.1:devel/pear expat-2.0.1:textproc/expat2 openldap-client-2.4.17:net/openldap24-client perl-5.8.9_3:lang/perl5.8 pkg-config-0.23_1:devel/pkg-config pcre-7.9:devel/pcre libiconv-1.13.1:converters/libiconv libxml2-2.7.3:textproc/libxml2 apache-2.2.11_7:www/apache22 php5-5.2.10:lang/php5 php5-xml-5.2.10:textproc/php5-xml pear-1.8.1:devel/pear expat-2.0.1:textproc/expat2 openldap-client-2.4.17:net/openldap24-client perl-5.8.9_3:lang/perl5.8 pkg-config-0.23_1:devel/pkg-config pcre-7.9:devel/pcre libiconv-1.13.1:converters/libiconv libxml2-2.7.3:textproc/libxml2 apache-2.2.11_7:www/apache22 php5-5.2.10:lang/php5 php5-xml-5.2.10:textproc/php5-xml pear-1.8.1:devel/pear expat-2.0.1:textproc/expat2 openldap-client-2.4.17:net/openldap24-client perl-5.8.9_3:lang/perl5.8 pkg-config-0.23_1:devel/pkg-config pcre-7.9:devel/pcre libiconv-1.13.1:converters/libiconv libxml2-2.7.3:textproc/libxml2 apache-2.2.11_7:www/apache22 php5-5.2.10:lang/php5 php5-xml-5.2.10:textproc/php5-xml php5-pcre-5.2.10:devel/php5-pcre From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 20:23:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24297106564A for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:23:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7AE8FC40 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:23:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D397E818 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:23:14 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:23:13 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4A814C91.5000909@intersonic.se> <200908111212.18661.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A81D270.2020907@intersonic.se> In-Reply-To: <4A81D270.2020907@intersonic.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908111223.13929.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Subject: Re: Error code 254 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:23:16 -0000 On Tuesday 11 August 2009 12:20:00 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > Mel Flynn wrote: > > On Tuesday 11 August 2009 10:53:21 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > >> Mel Flynn wrote: > >>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 09:27:06 Mel Flynn wrote: > >>>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 08:53:59 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > >>>>> Mel Flynn wrote: > >>>>>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > >>>>>>> ===> Installing documentation in > >>>>>>> /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing tests in > >>>>>>> /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing > >>>>>>> examples in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. *** > >>>>>>> Error code 254 > >>> > >>> ... > >>> > >>>> In the meantime, I'll try to reproduce it. > >>> > >>> Which I can't. Patch below adds -v at the correct spot. > >> > >> Unfortunately that did not add much, the error looks exacktly as before, > >> no change. I welcome more suggestions of course. > >> > >> (7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #0: Mon Aug 10 23:50:08 CEST 2009) > > > > Well, it's hard if I can't reproduce it. Can you show the output of: > > make -C /usr/ports/devel/pear-XML_Serializer actual-package-depends > > I tried to locate the docs for pear, in particular the switches, but > failed. Even at pear.php.net/manual I could not find them, are they > installed on my system somewhere? pear help pear help options pear help commands -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 20:49:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50FE106564A for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:49:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B928D8FC36 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:49:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7BKmnlH005628; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:48:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:48:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200908112048.n7BKmnP3005627@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kirk Strauser Cc: Anton Shterenlikht Subject: Re: graphics/ImageMagick seemingly not using OpenMP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:49:30 -0000 On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:38:52 -0500 Kirk Strauser wrote: >On Aug 11, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:18:43AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: >>> On my FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE system (from July 29), I'm trying to enable >>> OpenMP for the graphics/ImageMagick port. With the >>> IMAGEMAGICK_OPENMP >>> option set, I get this from "make configure": >>> >>> checking for cc -std=gnu99 option to support OpenMP... (cached) >>> unsupported >>> checking for cc -std=gnu99 option to support OpenMP... -fopenmp >>> >>> If I go on to build it, there's no other mention of OpenMP in the >>> output. What am I doing wrong? > >> I think the second like shows that OMP is indeed supported. >> Have you tested on any OMP test? > >But the rest of the build doesn't give any indication. Specifically, >the "-fopenmp" flag isn't used anywhere. I've tested that OMP works - >or at least compiles - but I don't know of any way to find if a given >binary was actually compiled with it. Have you tried nm(1)? Unless the symbols were removed via strip(1), nm(1) should be able to extract an external symbol dictionary from the ImageMagick binary. You can then search through that for OpenMP symbols. Scott Bennett, Comm. 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John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 20:56:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6631A106564A for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A61D8FC15 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:56:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at BSDLabs AB Message-ID: <4A81DB08.60907@intersonic.se> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:56:40 +0200 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090727) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel Flynn References: <4A814C91.5000909@intersonic.se> <200908111212.18661.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A81D270.2020907@intersonic.se> <200908111223.13929.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: <200908111223.13929.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error code 254 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:56:45 -0000 Mel Flynn wrote: > On Tuesday 11 August 2009 12:20:00 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >> Mel Flynn wrote: >>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 10:53:21 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>>> Mel Flynn wrote: >>>>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 09:27:06 Mel Flynn wrote: >>>>>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 08:53:59 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>>>>>> Mel Flynn wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>>>>>>>> ===> Installing documentation in >>>>>>>>> /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing tests in >>>>>>>>> /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing >>>>>>>>> examples in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. *** >>>>>>>>> Error code 254 Hmmm, when I try portupgrade -fO pear the error pops up here too. Should I suspect the package database then? ===> Installing for pear-1.8.1 ===> pear-1.8.1 depends on file: /usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - found ===> pear-1.8.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/pcre.so - found ===> pear-1.8.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/xml.so - found ===> Generating temporary packing list *** Error code 254 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/pear. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/pear. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade20090811-2005-huzahd-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=pear-1.8.1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=1.8.1 make -DFORCE_PKG_REGISTER reinstall ---> Restoring the old version ** Fix the installation problem and try again. [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 261 packages found (-0 +1) . done] ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! devel/pear (pear-1.8.1) (install error) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 22:13:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AAEE1065673 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F868FC36 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:13:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2541C7E818; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:13:57 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:13:55 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4A814C91.5000909@intersonic.se> <200908111223.13929.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A81DB08.60907@intersonic.se> In-Reply-To: <4A81DB08.60907@intersonic.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908111413.56215.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Error code 254 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:13:59 -0000 On Tuesday 11 August 2009 12:56:40 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > Mel Flynn wrote: > > On Tuesday 11 August 2009 12:20:00 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > >> Mel Flynn wrote: > >>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 10:53:21 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > >>>> Mel Flynn wrote: > >>>>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 09:27:06 Mel Flynn wrote: > >>>>>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 08:53:59 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > >>>>>>> Mel Flynn wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > >>>>>>>>> ===> Installing documentation in > >>>>>>>>> /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing tests > >>>>>>>>> in /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing > >>>>>>>>> examples in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. *** > >>>>>>>>> Error code 254 > > Hmmm, when I try > portupgrade -fO pear > the error pops up here too. > > Should I suspect the package database then? > > ===> Installing for pear-1.8.1 > ===> pear-1.8.1 depends on file: /usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - > found ===> pear-1.8.1 depends on file: > /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/pcre.so - found > ===> pear-1.8.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/xml.so - > found > ===> Generating temporary packing list > *** Error code 254 Is it really at that point? Could you try a make -dl install again? If it's the package list generation for real, then I'm gonna suspect something on a system level, like IO errors or read-only mounts. If it is the same thing with pear install command, then perhaps you should pkg_delete -r pear-1.8.1 (careful, will uninstall anything depending on pear) and start over to see if the error persists. The pear command sure can use some more verbosity then. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 23:32:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029351065673 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:32:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D6E8FC16 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n7BNWUHn012835 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:32:30 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n7BNWUTl012834; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:32:30 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 584B6B7B6; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:21:08 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <4d4e09680908110750s68cb93c3r1cad8277012920d5@mail.gmail.com> (message from Identry on Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:50:54 -0400) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20090811232108.584B6B7B6@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:21:08 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: location of user crontab files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:32:32 -0000 >> On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:50:54 -0400, >> Identry said: I> Where are user crontab files stored in the file system? I want to make I> sure this info is backed up. They're in /var/cron/tabs. If you're using individual crontab files, be sure to rename /etc/crontab or you might have duplicated cronjobs running simultaneously. I use the file header beneath my signature for crontab files, so I don't forget what field goes where. It's also handy to define an environment variable in case a program should behave differently when run under cron. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company # ==================================================================== # Everything on a line is separated by blanks or tabs. # Set CRON so scripts know when they're being run non-interactively. CRON=yes SHELL=/bin/sh PATH=/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin # ==================================================================== #+--------------------------- Minute (0-59) #| +----------------------- Hour (0-23) #| | +----------------- Day (1-31) #| | | +------------- Month (1-12) #| | | | +--------- Day of week (0-6, 0=Sunday) #| | | | | +---- Command to be run #| | | | | | #v v v v v v # ==================================================================== # Jobs queued for later execution */5 * * * * /usr/libexec/atrun # -------------------------------------------------------------------- # Do daily/weekly/monthly maintenance 1 3 * * * periodic daily 10 22 * * * periodic evening 15 4 * * 6 periodic weekly 30 5 1 * * periodic monthly .. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 23:32:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8871065674 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:32:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E188FC1F for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n7BNWUW2012819 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:32:30 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n7BNWUrk012818; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:32:30 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 87EE8B7B6; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:55:41 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20090809135230.GA21588@kokopelli.hydra> (message from Chad Perrin on Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:52:31 -0600) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20090811225541.87EE8B7B6@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:55:41 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: > upgrade 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:32:33 -0000 >> On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:52:31 -0600, >> Chad Perrin said: C> An info page is almost as bad as nothing, as far as I'm concerned. Yup. However, the GNU folks do provide something for the rest of us; help2man accepts a GNU program name, runs it with the --help and --version arguments, and writes a pretty good manpage. me% wget http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/help2man/help2man-1.36.4.tar.gz me% tar xzfv help2man-1.36.4.tar.gz me% cd help2man-1.36.4 me% ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --mandir=/usr/local/man root# make install me% make distclean If you have GNU tar installed: root# help2man /usr/local/bin/gtar > /usr/local/man/man1/gtar.1 -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Things that never happen in "Star Trek" #16: Counsellor Troi states something other than the blindingly obvious. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 00:06:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4761106564A for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:06:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.olyer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f206.google.com (mail-bw0-f206.google.com [209.85.218.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FAC8FC40 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz2 with SMTP id 2so2793275bwz.43 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:06:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=HuqDBoUsG3RJfWCmY2d7BEVWNwatrEK308aaAAmO8ac=; b=D58MSDuAley2hLgWSnR3k/qmtU7TdthtwhpBmKYkr/5Ej5bZ05krpgarMQPdIS3eec ktvBjsGSpkUlrqdkZ83LKDuy/n/d/bve/zjcO9sOLkd9j1fwrqYXES68i7w2kmeM8Wt3 fBCG1GEVCsY62TzuJFtKygCsYCtP1FgfxBY5g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Bgb12voQN3R2Pw7Y0fSXAqj5Pgl6DmafsSa27KA9lBTxvKXKWaWJnAaLrKPvIKcExX vZ9fFKxpfGD8Ny8xLfCp5/mUMEKPGQQmDPVfjyA2Na50rVNqpChdavdHWI/g/xrAorlx YwleiNu+5nE/vHKCZIc/lxPudq30A9rkweXZI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.113.3 with SMTP id y3mr1379327fap.71.1250034242489; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:44:02 -0400 Message-ID: <1d7089c40908111644n2b75e25bh47b30bfc35fdd839@mail.gmail.com> From: Henry Olyer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: making FBSD 7.2 X work on a CQ-60 laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:06:03 -0000 I have been having a lot of trouble getting X running on my HP/Compaq laptop. A lot of trouble. For years I used to use xf86cfg and/or xf86config, but now, with FreeBSD 7.2 I can't find them. (Don't tell me that such useful tools were -- ugh -- depreciated. No, please no.) And worse, the keyboard has lot's of really nice key's on it, to dim the screen and such like that. Which right now 7.2 ignores. It's a CQ-60, a Walmart special and I purchased it because it had 3GB of RAM with a big screen (about 15.5", I think.) And I went down to my local computer store and purchased a 500GB SATA drive for $100. So for $400 I think I got a good deal. (The machine is on sale now at WM stores for less than $300. With tax it was $312.) Now though I have to make it work with FreeBSD 7.2. with X. I need help. Does anyone have one running FBSD 7.2 already? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 00:21:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B82C1065673 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:21:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gt@fallendusk.org) Received: from ysera.fallendusk.org (ysera.fallendusk.org [76.76.101.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA388FC45 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.gogax.com [127.0.0.1]) by ysera.fallendusk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281AF2842F for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:22:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at fallendusk.org Received: from ysera.fallendusk.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ysera.fallendusk.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P13O78hAEG6F for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:22:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elune.home.fallendusk.org (unknown [24.192.60.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gt@fallendusk.org) by ysera.fallendusk.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E16982842B for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:22:22 -0400 From: Gregory T Helton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090811202222.6461fa33@elune.home.fallendusk.org> In-Reply-To: <1d7089c40908111644n2b75e25bh47b30bfc35fdd839@mail.gmail.com> References: <1d7089c40908111644n2b75e25bh47b30bfc35fdd839@mail.gmail.com> Organization: fallenDUSK X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: making FBSD 7.2 X work on a CQ-60 laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:21:16 -0000 On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:44:02 -0400 Henry Olyer wrote: > I have been having a lot of trouble getting X running on my HP/Compaq > laptop. A lot of trouble. > > For years I used to use xf86cfg and/or xf86config, but now, with > FreeBSD 7.2 I can't find them. (Don't tell me that such useful tools > were -- ugh -- depreciated. No, please no.) > > And worse, the keyboard has lot's of really nice key's on it, to dim > the screen and such like that. Which right now 7.2 ignores. > > It's a CQ-60, a Walmart special and I purchased it because it had 3GB > of RAM with a big screen (about 15.5", I think.) And I went down to > my local computer store and purchased a 500GB SATA drive for $100. > > So for $400 I think I got a good deal. (The machine is on sale now > at WM stores for less than $300. With tax it was $312.) > > Now though I have to make it work with FreeBSD 7.2. with X. I need > help. Does anyone have one running FBSD 7.2 already? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Going to need some more info. :) Do you know what kind of graphics chip is in there? Have you tried the automagic xorg configuration? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html `pciconf -lv` output would help also. --Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 00:27:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F32D1065678 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:27:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196158FC3E for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:27:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B3C3D1F0; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:27:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7C0ROhR003804; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:27:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:27:24 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Henry Olyer Message-Id: <20090812022724.73ba91a9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1d7089c40908111644n2b75e25bh47b30bfc35fdd839@mail.gmail.com> References: <1d7089c40908111644n2b75e25bh47b30bfc35fdd839@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: making FBSD 7.2 X work on a CQ-60 laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:27:27 -0000 On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:44:02 -0400, Henry Olyer wrote: > I have been having a lot of trouble getting X running on my HP/Compaq > laptop. A lot of trouble. > > For years I used to use xf86cfg and/or xf86config, but now, with FreeBSD 7.2 > I can't find them. (Don't tell me that such useful tools were -- ugh -- > depreciated. No, please no.) They are. X introduced new means to achieve the same, mainly through autodetection. The command # X -configure should provide a xorg.conf.new file with the relevant settings. Have a look at what /var/log/Xorg.0.log says in case of errors. Keep in mind that the new X server now has a different behaviour when it works. They old-fashioned greyish pattern has been abandoned in favour of a modern solid black background. :-) > And worse, the keyboard has lot's of really nice key's on it, to dim the > screen and such like that. Which right now 7.2 ignores. I always thought these keys were software-independent. But who wonders about "modern" laptops where even the socket for headphones requires a driver that manages to switch off the speakers when a headphone is plugged in... > So for $400 I think I got a good deal. If it works. If it doesn't, it was a bad deal. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 00:41:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D03106566B for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 745B18FC50 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:41:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 45656 invoked by uid 89); 12 Aug 2009 00:40:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 12 Aug 2009 00:40:47 -0000 Message-ID: <4A820F9C.8030709@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:41:00 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "questions@freebsd.org" References: <4A6A72A6.1030009@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <4A6A72A6.1030009@ibctech.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms060307050401000308010700" Cc: Subject: Re: A question for developers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:41:02 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms060307050401000308010700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Bertrand wrote: > I'm looking for a new editor. Well, after a two week hiatus from technology, I'm back at work (actually, considering I build a large new deck, being back at work is more of a holiday than being on holidays :) Although it was recommended that I give both Emacs and Vi(m) a try to see which one I prefer, I'm forgoing that, and just sticking with Vim as I can just sense that it suits me. I don't know if this is a Vi or FreeBSD question, so I'll ask here first. In the vim tutor, it is quoted: " NOTE: The letter d will appear on the last line of the screen as you type it. Vim is waiting for you to type w . If you see another character than d you typed something wrong; press and start over. " ...however, my terminal emulators (Putty, Poderosa) never display anything at the bottom of the screen when I type a command that requires additional input. Am I reading this wrong, or could my emulator be chopping off some of my display (using commands followed by ":" always appear). Having the "d" displayed is largely irrelevant as I can always sense when I've mistyped a char, but may be handy until I become more fluent, as my first instinct is to hit the BACKSPACE key. Is "d" supposed to show up prior to sending it another command? Thanks again for the great feedback and references! 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(steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 12 Aug 2009 00:46:03 -0000 Message-ID: <4A8210D8.4050601@ibctech.ca> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:46:16 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "questions@freebsd.org" References: <4A6A72A6.1030009@ibctech.ca> <4A820F9C.8030709@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <4A820F9C.8030709@ibctech.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070103030209050204090803" Cc: Subject: Re: A question for developers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:46:17 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070103030209050204090803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Bertrand wrote: > but may be handy until I become more fluent, > as my first instinct is to hit the BACKSPACE ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H ^h key. 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Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63D48FC40 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:40:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126DD7E818; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:40:06 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:40:04 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4A6A72A6.1030009@ibctech.ca> <4A820F9C.8030709@ibctech.ca> <4A8210D8.4050601@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <4A8210D8.4050601@ibctech.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908111840.05008.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Steve Bertrand Subject: Re: A question for developers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:40:07 -0000 On Tuesday 11 August 2009 16:46:16 Steve Bertrand wrote: > Steve Bertrand wrote: > > but may be handy until I become more fluent, > > as my first instinct is to hit the BACKSPACE > > ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H > > ^h key. terminal emulation fault. stty erase should fix it, on the shell that is. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 07:54:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC007106566C for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:54:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DEF8FC3A for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:54:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at BSDLabs AB Message-ID: <4A827538.9020406@intersonic.se> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:54:32 +0200 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090611) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mel Flynn References: <4A814C91.5000909@intersonic.se> <200908111223.13929.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A81DB08.60907@intersonic.se> <200908111413.56215.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> In-Reply-To: <200908111413.56215.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error code 254 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:54:39 -0000 Mel Flynn wrote: > On Tuesday 11 August 2009 12:56:40 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >> Mel Flynn wrote: >>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 12:20:00 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>>> Mel Flynn wrote: >>>>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 10:53:21 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>>>>> Mel Flynn wrote: >>>>>>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 09:27:06 Mel Flynn wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 08:53:59 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>>>>>>>> Mel Flynn wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday 11 August 2009 02:48:49 Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> ===> Installing documentation in >>>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/share/doc/pear/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing tests >>>>>>>>>>> in /usr/local/share/pear/tests/XML_Serializer. ===> Installing >>>>>>>>>>> examples in /usr/local/share/examples/pear/XML_Serializer. *** >>>>>>>>>>> Error code 254 >> Hmmm, when I try >> portupgrade -fO pear >> the error pops up here too. >> >> Should I suspect the package database then? >> >> ===> Installing for pear-1.8.1 >> ===> pear-1.8.1 depends on file: /usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - >> found ===> pear-1.8.1 depends on file: >> /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/pcre.so - found >> ===> pear-1.8.1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/xml.so - >> found >> ===> Generating temporary packing list >> *** Error code 254 > > Is it really at that point? Could you try a make -dl install again? If it's > the package list generation for real, then I'm gonna suspect something on a > system level, like IO errors or read-only mounts. > > If it is the same thing with pear install command, then perhaps you should > pkg_delete -r pear-1.8.1 (careful, will uninstall anything depending on pear) > and start over to see if the error persists. The pear command sure can use > some more verbosity then. Yes, reinstalling pear made the problem go away. Unfortunately this will never tell us what was actually wrong but at least it works now. Thanks a lot for your input. -- per From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 08:22:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08270106566B for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:22:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andreev.peter@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D668FC3E for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so4268303ewy.43 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 01:22:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=IpCDUOsG3UhGxoGgGKPF5XAYYYosHffrm1PY5QszzeE=; b=T/RYPK80EOvFjMKDEAJlCkBphm147Op7gkxxVITkjJ9FBOcY8lMb+IMLC9L9dTUzpi BWcNz1ZXj4mTGDB4jPt9/ugGU5LdeuatyAnB6HF7zx5FCclxub43gJ8M8TPYiLNH4L9l FFQu8SbDhPebnQC0XPFdMH6sxgtz05mzIUOpw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=B6hSLcvk9GSx6mMW2NcFe68oLrZ01E6E79Jy2WZXJ7Okgayirg8mHhSVfZcA9yvqsC +B/hw1j3OiYcAbXwpLdfFrJ9jiQI9wM8TCK3rFC9DimCZdVvcV1dQ00n6bTp3IfKFszg Q2bAFf+g3jrC78LZrHFCUc5BErdjtyNYimqMk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.20.74 with SMTP id o52mr1428156weo.147.1250063853312; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:57:33 +0400 Message-ID: From: Peter Andreev To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: loader halting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:22:42 -0000 Good day. While server is booting, I see this: /boot.config: -Dh BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01 Consoles: internal video/keyboard serial port BIOS drive C: is disk0 BIOS drive D: is disk1 BIOS 637kB/3668864kB available memory FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1 (email@email, Fri Aug 7 14:18:25 MSD 2009) | And boot process is stopping. I tried to boot /boot/loader.old, tried to boot from other hdd (there is a mirror) - in all cases I see the same picture. Where I should look to find a source of troubles? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 08:41:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4969A1065672 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDF98FC16 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7C8e84N088216; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:40:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n7C8e8LV088215; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:40:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:40:07 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: Raisa Brokhshtut Message-ID: <20090812084007.GA88171@ei.bzerk.org> References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_73 autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:41:14 +0200 (CEST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:41:16 -0000 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 01:00:31PM -0700, Raisa Brokhshtut typed: > Hello, > ? > My old desktop has FreeBSD that I have never used. One of the friends of my son installed it long ago, but no one used that PC since then. Now I want to get rid of this program and to install Windows.?Every time when I boot this PC it prompts?for a user login which I don't know. This guy who intalled FreeBSD is not around anymore. > ? > Anyway, I would greatly appreciate if you would guide me how to uninstall that program. I don't have windows reskue cd. So I want to completly remove that FreeBSD from my PC and to install?the Windows operating system from CD. The FreeBSD program can not be uninstalled. Live with it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 09:31:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FEB1065673 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309D88FC44 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:31:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7C9VEtA088435; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:31:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n7C9VEfa088434; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:31:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:31:14 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: Karl Vogel Message-ID: <20090812093114.GB88171@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Karl Vogel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4d4e09680908110750s68cb93c3r1cad8277012920d5@mail.gmail.com> <20090811232108.584B6B7B6@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090811232108.584B6B7B6@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:31:18 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: location of user crontab files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:31:19 -0000 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 07:21:08PM -0400, Karl Vogel typed: > >> On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:50:54 -0400, > >> Identry said: > > I> Where are user crontab files stored in the file system? I want to make > I> sure this info is backed up. > > They're in /var/cron/tabs. If you're using individual crontab files, > be sure to rename /etc/crontab or you might have duplicated cronjobs > running simultaneously. I don't think this is sound advise. Leaving /etc/crontab (the system crontab) to do the system maintenance jobs it is supposed to do and putting additional scripts and jobs in user tabs is normal practice and won't cause any problems. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 10:18:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2816F1065673 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:18:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A178FC41 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7C9m3Kr032199; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:48:04 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:48:02 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: PJ , wmoran@potentialtech.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:18:36 -0000 On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:52:29 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:34:13 -0400, PJ > wrote: > I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and > I'm > wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it? > > Maybe an 1:1 copy using dd with a bs=1m would work. Maybe it would, if the new disk size is >= the old one. > > Would doing a minimum 7.2 install be enough, followed by copying > all the > slices to the corresponding slices on the new disk? > I'm > thinking of mounting the broken drive on the new one and then > > copying... does that sound about right? > > No. Does not. :-) > > The proper way of doing this - or at least ONE of the proper ways - > is to use the intended tools for this task. These are dump and > restore. > > First of all, you use a FreeBSD live system (such as FreeSBIE) or the > livefs CD of the FreeBSD OS to run the OS. The goal is: Most minimal > interaction with the drives. Good principles, but .. > Let's assume ad0 is your source disk and ad1 the target disk. > > You can use the sysinstall tool to slice and partition the target > disk. You can create the same layout as on the source disk. Of > course, using tools like bsdlabel and newfs is valid, too. If you're > done, things go like this: > > 1. Check the source. > > # fsck /dev/ad0s1a /dev/ad0s1e /dev/ad0s1f /dev/ad0s1g > /dev/ad0s1h Er, from PJ's original message (and the subject line) the boot sector, sector 0, is hosed. So the partition/slice table is hosed, or at least untrustworthy. So what then can /dev/ad0s1a and the others refer to? dd may indeed be the best way to at least get a raw copy of the existing disk. After which perhaps the boot sector can be rewritten with the right values (if available?) so that such as fsck and dump can proceed. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 10:28:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81721065672 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:28:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from srv0008.pine.nl (srv0008.pine.nl [213.156.9.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84BB8FC49 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:28:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srv0008.pine.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE8A3A39AF; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:28:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pine.nl Received: from srv0008.pine.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srv0008.pine.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id KnEpQk1OccN8; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:28:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fileserver.pine.nl (unknown [77.163.240.244]) by srv0008.pine.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5B23A39F6; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:28:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from freelt.pine.nl (unknown [172.16.0.46]) by fileserver.pine.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51546130EA4; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:28:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A829955.30504@isafeelin.org> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:28:37 +0200 From: Frederique Rijsdijk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruben de Groot , Karl Vogel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4d4e09680908110750s68cb93c3r1cad8277012920d5@mail.gmail.com> <20090811232108.584B6B7B6@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> <20090812093114.GB88171@ei.bzerk.org> In-Reply-To: <20090812093114.GB88171@ei.bzerk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: location of user crontab files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:28:44 -0000 Ruben de Groot wrote: > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 07:21:08PM -0400, Karl Vogel typed: >>>> On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:50:54 -0400, >>>> Identry said: >> I> Where are user crontab files stored in the file system? I want to make >> I> sure this info is backed up. >> >> They're in /var/cron/tabs. If you're using individual crontab files, >> be sure to rename /etc/crontab or you might have duplicated cronjobs >> running simultaneously. > > I don't think this is sound advise. Leaving /etc/crontab (the system crontab) to do > the system maintenance jobs it is supposed to do and putting additional scripts and > jobs in user tabs is normal practice and won't cause any problems. I've learned not to touch /etc/crontab at all. Saves some time during upgrades/mergemaster. -- Frederique From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 11:34:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1C91065674 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:34:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E6E8FC1F for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:34:50 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KO900B79HI1C890@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:34:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:34:49 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Ian Smith References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-reply-to: <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Cc: Polytropon , wmoran@potentialtech.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:34:50 -0000 Ian Smith wrote: > On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:52:29 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:34:13 -0400, PJ > > wrote: > I've got another disk about the same size on the machine and > > I'm > wonderiing how could I transfer the whole shebang to it? > > > > Maybe an 1:1 copy using dd with a bs=1m would work. > > Maybe it would, if the new disk size is >= the old one. > > > > Would doing a minimum 7.2 install be enough, followed by copying > > all the > slices to the corresponding slices on the new disk? > I'm > > thinking of mounting the broken drive on the new one and then > > > copying... does that sound about right? > > > > No. Does not. :-) > > > > The proper way of doing this - or at least ONE of the proper ways - > > is to use the intended tools for this task. These are dump and > > restore. > > > > First of all, you use a FreeBSD live system (such as FreeSBIE) or the > > livefs CD of the FreeBSD OS to run the OS. The goal is: Most minimal > > interaction with the drives. > > Good principles, but .. > > > Let's assume ad0 is your source disk and ad1 the target disk. > > > > You can use the sysinstall tool to slice and partition the target > > disk. You can create the same layout as on the source disk. Of > > course, using tools like bsdlabel and newfs is valid, too. If you're > > done, things go like this: > > > > 1. Check the source. > > > > # fsck /dev/ad0s1a /dev/ad0s1e /dev/ad0s1f /dev/ad0s1g > > /dev/ad0s1h > > Er, from PJ's original message (and the subject line) the boot sector, > sector 0, is hosed. So the partition/slice table is hosed, or at least > untrustworthy. So what then can /dev/ad0s1a and the others refer to? > > dd may indeed be the best way to at least get a raw copy of the existing > disk. After which perhaps the boot sector can be rewritten with the > right values (if available?) so that such as fsck and dump can proceed. > > cheers, Ian > Thanks, Ian... I'm actually at the stage of doing the save/copy/transfer or whatever you can call it: here's what I am thinking and on which I need clarification. I ran HDD regenerator and it immediately flagged the very first sector as being Bad. On bootint, just before the crash, the boot process started... hesitated, lurched forward, hesitated and then proceeded to load only some minutes later closing down with a 177mb dump. I knew then there was a problem.. :-) I have a 2nd disk just checked (with the regenerator - 12 hrs waiting on 2.4ghz cpu). If, indeed, the boot sector is the only thing mucked up, I should be able to copy the rest onto the 2nd(target) disk NP. The question, then, is how to deal with the boot sector. As I understand it, the boot sector has the partition information needed to run things for the rest of the disk. So, copying the damaged source disk will not give me the boot sector needed. I happen to have a another instance of 7.2 installed on a smaller disk but that boot sector, obviously will not be quite right, right? I presume that I can just boot up the spare 7.2 disk, do the dd stuff from source to target and we have stage 1 done. I get the impression to get this second stage (the boot stuff) I should do a minimal setup of the original configuration on a third disk the same size as the source and then copy the boot sector to the tartget. If for some reason, I haven't got the slices/partitions right, then I can just redo the whole shebang until I've got it right. A little tortured, but could work, or have I got it wrong? Of course, if there is a more elegant and simpler solution, shoot ! TIA PJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 13:05:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB01106566C for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796CE8FC41 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from marge.bs.l (e180022029.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.180.22.29]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKv5w-1MbDWV01Ez-000bJ6; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:05:47 +0200 Received: from bsch by marge.bs.l with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MbDWU-0000zz-BU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:05:46 +0200 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:05:46 +0200 From: Bertram Scharpf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090812130546.GA3672@marge.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+HQQ+ZTapCznCElWGr/EJNI/TwqlSPgpWfAMa TVMsRCeh7L0zW04R4MH4YVugx2WRy+EeeRDYqa7ao1qTmQsHzl aHeHWSd7SZq/7pzBlAi/LZ+2vlQvAtK Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:05:49 -0000 Hi, Am Montag, 10. Aug 2009, 13:00:31 -0700 schrieb Raisa Brokhshtut: > My old desktop has FreeBSD that I have never used. [...] Now I > want to get rid of this program and to install Windows. > =A0 > Anyway, I would greatly appreciate if you would guide me how to > uninstall that program. [...] So I want to completly remove that > FreeBSD from my PC and to install=A0the Windows operating system > from CD.=20 This problem is best solved the common way Windows users do with any software: Just reinstall the desired program as often until it works. Bertram --=20 Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 13:30:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049FB106566B for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:30:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DFC08FC49 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:30:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 75808 invoked by uid 89); 12 Aug 2009 13:29:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 12 Aug 2009 13:29:55 -0000 Message-ID: <4A82C3DD.7040209@ibctech.ca> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:30:05 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20090812130546.GA3672@marge.bs.l> In-Reply-To: <20090812130546.GA3672@marge.bs.l> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070005030602000306050500" Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:30:06 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms070005030602000306050500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bertram Scharpf wrote: > Hi, > > Am Montag, 10. Aug 2009, 13:00:31 -0700 schrieb Raisa Brokhshtut: >> My old desktop has FreeBSD that I have never used. [...] Now I >> want to get rid of this program and to install Windows. >> >> Anyway, I would greatly appreciate if you would guide me how to >> uninstall that program. [...] So I want to completly remove that >> FreeBSD from my PC and to install the Windows operating system >> from CD. > > This problem is best solved the common way Windows users do with > any software: Just reinstall the desired program as often until it > works. Are you suggesting that continuous reinstalling of a program numerous times until it works is a Windows-only tactic? ...have you ever had a port that wouldn't install properly/completely on the first, or fifth try? Give the guy some credit... he at least did enough homework to find this list. To the Original Poster: The easiest way to remove FreeBSD and get back to a Windows environment would be to simply boot from a Windows install CD, and have the installer delete all 'partitions' it finds (including "unknown"). This of course will require having the Windows install CD. Your desktop may still have a sticker with a license key on it, in which case, you can simply borrow the Windows CD from someone else if you don't own one. 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Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:03:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8958FC59 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7CE3eG9044504; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:03:40 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:03:40 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: PJ In-Reply-To: <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <20090812224925.U19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Polytropon , wmoran@potentialtech.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:03:49 -0000 On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, PJ wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:52:29 +0200 Polytropon wrote: [..] > > > Let's assume ad0 is your source disk and ad1 the target disk. > > > > > > You can use the sysinstall tool to slice and partition the target > > > disk. You can create the same layout as on the source disk. Of > > > course, using tools like bsdlabel and newfs is valid, too. If you're > > > done, things go like this: > > > > > > 1. Check the source. > > > > > > # fsck /dev/ad0s1a /dev/ad0s1e /dev/ad0s1f /dev/ad0s1g > > > /dev/ad0s1h > > > > Er, from PJ's original message (and the subject line) the boot sector, > > sector 0, is hosed. So the partition/slice table is hosed, or at least > > untrustworthy. So what then can /dev/ad0s1a and the others refer to? > > > > dd may indeed be the best way to at least get a raw copy of the existing > > disk. After which perhaps the boot sector can be rewritten with the > > right values (if available?) so that such as fsck and dump can proceed. > Thanks, Ian... > I'm actually at the stage of doing the save/copy/transfer or whatever > you can call it: here's what I am thinking and on which I need > clarification. > I ran HDD regenerator and it immediately flagged the very first sector > as being Bad. On bootint, just before the crash, the boot process > started... hesitated, lurched forward, hesitated and then proceeded to > load only some minutes later closing down with a 177mb dump. > I knew then there was a problem.. :-) The dump, presumably from a panic, may be related or a consequence of whatever hardware issue may have clobbered your boot sector, or it may not. Your disk may be really in trouble, or it may just need its boot sector rewriting, if not a 'hard' sector error. But first, backup .. > I have a 2nd disk just checked (with the regenerator - 12 hrs waiting on > 2.4ghz cpu). I don't know of this regenerator. dd'ing a drive to /dev/null is a pretty good way to surface test a disk, not taking a fraction that long. > If, indeed, the boot sector is the only thing mucked up, I should be > able to copy the rest onto the 2nd(target) disk NP. The question, then, Read man dd carefully, do some practice runs. You'll want conv=noerror to copy all but any bad sectors, or dd may fail. For any section with bad sectors, you may need to use bs=512 and maybe skip (source) and seek (destination) to keep things aligned. I'm no expert on dd, have't had to do that for years, nor am I so hot on fdisk, bsdlabel or boot0cfg on FreeBSD 7, but there are plenty of folks here that are. > is how to deal with the boot sector. As I understand it, the boot sector > has the partition information needed to run things for the rest of the > disk. So, copying the damaged source disk will not give me the boot > sector needed. That's right, and no, but if you salvage everything else, and you know which slice/s were used and how big its partition/s are, you should be ok. Once back up, apart from normal backups, having a copy of your boot sector plus fdisk / bsdlabel output on another disk - or even on paper - can be very handy :) > I happen to have a another instance of 7.2 installed on a smaller disk > but that boot sector, obviously will not be quite right, right? No, you don't want to copy another disk's boot sector; you'll want to use fdisk to make a new one that fits. If there's a jumper for it, write protect the bad drive first, and move it away from being ad0. Seek expert help on the commands, as above .. > I presume that I can just boot up the spare 7.2 disk, do the dd stuff > from source to target and we have stage 1 done. If the disk sizes match, should be good. > I get the impression to get this second stage (the boot stuff) I should > do a minimal setup of the original configuration on a third disk the > same size as the source and then copy the boot sector to the tartget. If > for some reason, I haven't got the slices/partitions right, then I can > just redo the whole shebang until I've got it right. > A little tortured, but could work, or have I got it wrong? > Of course, if there is a more elegant and simpler solution, shoot ! Again, I wouldn't copy a boot sector (though on identical disks, that should work). fdisk will write a new boot sector, and if you've got the slice sizes right, then your old bsdlabels should still be there for your various BSD partitions. Now .. exit the clown and bring on the fdisk / bsdlabel experts, please. Good luck, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 14:13:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B54E106567A for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdavtaker@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF588FC4F for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so33484qyk.3 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:13:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=TQsxiLtXVirrLIPR4C9UdgisM0xiTXosgcEuuLXPmq8=; b=hQdXOuvL7NavYBJFVTqDAWnTVgA7SA8qu3IKbzkE+VYmBIG7j/QubDkSm5jm1oXm1N CQkqfM2V+y/Bo6XrIaX8RlF6UAfWNM10rWYZmKPZmyFHrIs8LCynzYfIJm4etIRC6v5V gFjfcyktWnUwq9i1GzP9mpm2xFQxWi8DMKI3Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gJdmiaqa5GO5Br6mr/qM11qlAEWTgZCw7yHSN/VWVd9UIw8uxLZxpmiubGFpHyOv/L 4aePTmFS65YGHmgXKeZskpxhRZ1VOZgdSB60+PGWHLkIpXvsJkPFu3UCSj5oscR1bzfr NCfsZPLxOf+CTWUxzjm+5BFICRwLqKFSuXOBg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.60.149 with SMTP id p21mr114592qah.44.1250085110833; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 06:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:51:50 -0300 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Sd=C3=A4vtaker?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Problems with pkg_delete * X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:13:16 -0000 Hi, I want to clean up and start again the installation of pkg since i did a broken update in python and qt and pretty much everything is broken portupgrade never ends, doing make in ports crash pretty much all the time ><. I tried # pkg_delete '*' Segmentation fault (core dumped) # pkg_delete 'kde*' Segmentation fault (core dumped) Failed both in multiuser so I tried to do this as monouser and was the same. Im running FreeBSD user.domain 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jun 24 00:57:44 UTC 2009 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Any suggestions? Thanks for any help. Damian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 14:32:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9042410657C0 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:32:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckop@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4958FC4A for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so18941qwe.7 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:32:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:organization:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language:x-cr-hashedpuzzle:x-cr-puzzleid; bh=ggYwNYt1AL5JJucnUJ8diT1k0KndixPFJcPf40K9t+o=; b=nM4TWXNaWAx57UqkxzrDW+xF5p6sXN+EihfDWfr6yPt553UQJXMLZoSa1QkAXyM4gs EG8o1O+yUkyajRvyOt8GwevaChwnOC4pcO/zlur1KICg0/PCRQv/HCw0UDcA3Z0Uh9zT zrCF/F36/3pD3d4r1mHmDNE0sLW+QW34l5cUY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:organization:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language:x-cr-hashedpuzzle:x-cr-puzzleid; b=Dz9lO/1kuyra51NSzpxVSJ65dWCbtX6p5y3F89P4HlPdddGKpv8N8V4TC1JSaxEloF YAZHRASXvjC33EEyiWTivVGP3/hWsEvOyKNrwEXU5vZ+lZk+a2NpAWeSqAOyKXox5OB9 wN/spEX0nMkyuTXMKTjlrw1kwrY6lsx3e3RaM= Received: by 10.229.1.83 with SMTP id 19mr158757qce.68.1250087545188; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ChuckOp1 (145-115.127-70.tampabay.res.rr.com [70.127.115.145]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm591303ywh.6.2009.08.12.07.32.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:32:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Charles Oppermann" To: "'Steve Bertrand'" , References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20090812130546.GA3672@marge.bs.l> <4A82C3DD.7040209@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <4A82C3DD.7040209@ibctech.ca> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:32:20 -0400 Organization: Copper Software Message-ID: <002701ca1b59$b3e132c0$1ba39840$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AcobUROuJF5V9RWsSL2cNNjPzdSLCQABnWxg Content-Language: en-us x-cr-hashedpuzzle: CHOD DzyJ GePA HW1H LHXs L8sB MMJp NAUp PNx9 QwwM Q7J3 SDF1 SPIL VYqM VqPi WEHp; 2; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnADsAcwB0AGUAdgBlAEAAaQBiAGMAdABlAGMAaAAuAGMAYQA=; Sosha1_v1; 7; {9F3B9944-217F-45CB-A885-03E6E8FCD33A}; YwBoAHUAYwBrAG8AcABAAGcAbQBhAGkAbAAuAGMAbwBtAA==; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:32:16 GMT; UgBFADoAIABwAGwAZQBhAHMAZQAgAGgAZQBsAHAAIAB0AG8AIAB1AG4AaQBuAHMAdABhAGwAbAAgAEYAcgBlAGUAQgBTAEQAIQAhACEA x-cr-puzzleid: {9F3B9944-217F-45CB-A885-03E6E8FCD33A} Cc: Subject: RE: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:32:30 -0000 > Are you suggesting that continuous reinstalling of a program numerous > times until it works is a Windows-only tactic? Bad software exists on every platform, in proportion to the platform's installed base. > To the Original Poster: The easiest way to remove FreeBSD and get back > to a Windows environment would be to simply boot from a Windows install > CD, and have the installer delete all 'partitions' it finds (including > "unknown"). Correct, and counter to another posters statement that Windows attempts to wipe entire disks when installing. Yes, that's the default choice, which is perfectly reasonable, but no Windows Setup will erase entire disks without plenty of warnings and give users the opportunity to keep existing partitions, including types it does not recognize. Since Windows 2000, the Setup program allows for deletion of partitions, creating one or more new partitions, formatting them, etc. Same as the FreeBSD setup, without the disk slices. > This of course will require having the Windows install CD. Your desktop > may still have a sticker with a license key on it, in which case, you > can simply borrow the Windows CD from someone else if you don't own one. In addition, most laptop companies will provide replacement media on request. Oftentimes, a new laptop ships with a manufacturer-specific recovery CD/DVD that contain OEM version of Windows, customized for that manufacturer. If that disk is not available, check the manufacturers support website on how to get a replacement. Downloading one might be an option. As you said Steve, the important thing is the COA sticker - Certificate of Authenticity/Proof of License. Usually on the bottom of the laptop, but sometimes affixed to printed materials included with the computer. Good luck to the original poster; maybe try out FreeBSD on another machine, or when the laptop is too old to run modern versions of Windows. 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Alternatively, you can: # rm /usr/local/* /var/db/pkg/* and have the same result. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 15:11:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53279106566C for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifi.khan@datasynergy.org) Received: from s219.sureserver.com (s219.sureserver.com [203.194.200.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77C78FC47 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 5610 invoked by uid 1002); 12 Aug 2009 14:44:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.10.10.7?) (saifi.khan@datasynergy.org@59.92.149.157) by s219.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 12 Aug 2009 14:44:19 -0000 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:12:49 +0530 (IST) From: Saifi Khan X-X-Sender: saifi@freebsd To: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Sd=E4vtaker?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with pkg_delete * X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:11:03 -0000 On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, Sd?vtaker wrote: > Hi, > I want to clean up and start again the installation of pkg since i did a > broken update in python and qt and pretty much everything is broken > portupgrade never ends, doing make in ports crash pretty much all the time > ><. > I tried > # pkg_delete '*' > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > # pkg_delete 'kde*' > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > Failed both in multiuser so I tried to do this as monouser and was the same. > Im running > FreeBSD user.domain 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jun 24 > 00:57:44 UTC 2009 > root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > Any suggestions? > Thanks for any help. > > Damian > There was an earlier thread that discussed this issue http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-stable@freebsd.org/msg101896.html Perhaps this may help you. thanks Saifi. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 15:45:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E26106566B; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:45:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joji@eskimo.com) Received: from ultra7.eskimo.com (ultra7.eskimo.com [204.122.16.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5FC8FC16; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shell.eskimo.com (root@shell.eskimo.com [204.122.16.72]) by ultra7.eskimo.com (8.14.0/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7CFQiUv005833; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:26:44 -0700 Received: from shell.eskimo.com (joji@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shell.eskimo.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7CFQjIQ018325; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:26:45 -0700 Received: (from joji@localhost) by shell.eskimo.com (8.14.3/8.12.10/Submit) id n7CFQjtv018324; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:26:45 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:26:45 -0700 From: Joseph Olatt To: get acoder Message-ID: <20090812152645.GA15068@shell.eskimo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Racoon VPN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:45:09 -0000 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 09:44:28PM +0200, get acoder wrote: > Hi there, > > I am refering to your very detailed doc > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ipsec.html > > I am exactly looking for the same features and setup, my only issue is that > I cant find racoon as you are describing here: > > /usr/local/etc/racoon/racoon.conf > > I installed ipsec tools, compiled my kernel for IPSec only to find out that > racoon2 is only available > > Any idea how where I ca find racoon v1 > > regards and tx > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" It appears that racoon2 has been removed from the ports. Superseded by: ipsec-tools [/usr/ports] xxx@serenity$ make search name=racoon Port: racoon2-20071227e_1 Path: /usr/ports/security/racoon2 Info: Racoon2 IPsec daemon Maint: sumikawa@FreeBSD.org B-deps: autoconf-2.61_2 autoconf-wrapper-20071109 m4-1.4.11,1 perl-5.8.8_1 R-deps: WWW: http://www.racoon2.wide.ad.jp/ Port: security/racoon Moved: security/ipsec-tools Date: 2005-11-18 Reason: removed, successor is ipsec-tools From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 16:05:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6AF10656A9 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdavtaker@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDDE8FC3A for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:05:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so105222qyk.3 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:05:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/rT6l2oQuYY52O3ERqk9UnvGS7l+VDVRO6VIuqRvoDk=; b=kVd/eva5d5QNf0UYIKibmtly+F3o95qaxKJliwg7xbQ/DX9+wMYgJekQytw3HOg6og NCgdX82+18ypcdTY0dnwtUX1GQSs/nGgCFGAN2h66qMMG6bRxnVUiIVfHD7KwPpbSHud kb+PO+hLtllWcpHD1UlV8ZiDJUbwEmbz3/MbY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=V2zXIfIo0uXpXu5Y43du0RllnJX0mvhyNd+yglYAY2xbK+rfsk3EbLB0Kd0t8tp5gT ZTeykcXz/JXxFo1DvHOChmtVw6WEP9oTtsP/t4GZM5TLiwhKIdh6Rj9Q7fkwrsNbm0y6 TPLAzYatNZVpHlTEA/B1gBowBS4kAZ8lU5vjk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.25.67 with SMTP id y3mr237372qab.346.1250093134369; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:05:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:05:34 -0300 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Sd=C3=A4vtaker?= To: Saifi Khan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with pkg_delete * X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:05:36 -0000 Thanks for reply guys. I did the rm in both directories and worked great, installing all again fro= m ports now. Damian On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:42, Saifi Khan wrote= : > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, Sd?vtaker wrote: > > > Hi, > > I want to clean up and start again the installation of pkg since i did = a > > broken update in python and qt and pretty much everything is broken > > portupgrade never ends, doing make in ports crash pretty much all the > time > > ><. > > I tried > > # pkg_delete '*' > > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > # pkg_delete 'kde*' > > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > Failed both in multiuser so I tried to do this as monouser and was the > same. > > Im running > > FreeBSD user.domain 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jun 2= 4 > > 00:57:44 UTC 2009 > > root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks for any help. > > > > Damian > > > > There was an earlier thread that discussed this issue > http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-stable@freebsd.org/msg101896.html > > Perhaps this may help you. > > > thanks > Saifi. > > --=20 Sd=C3=A4vtaker prays to Rikku goddess for a good treasure. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 16:22:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045A3106566B for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:22:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward1.yandex.ru (forward1.yandex.ru [77.88.46.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F838FC54 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp5.yandex.ru (smtp5.yandex.ru [77.88.47.12]) by forward1.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id AA8371468A84 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:01:08 +0400 (MSD) Received: from HOMEUSER (unknown [77.93.42.18]) by smtp5.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTPA id 7A1817980E4 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:59:08 +0400 (MSD) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:01:07 +0300 From: =?utf-8?B?0JrQvtC90YzQutC+0LIg0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lk=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KfQnyDQmtC+0L3RjNC60L7QsiwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <91695508.20090812190107@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1250092748 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp5.yandex.ru Subject: Kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?utf-8?B?0JrQvtC90YzQutC+0LIg0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lk=?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:22:28 -0000 Aug 12 15:59:08 host savecore: reboot after panic: integer divide fault Aug 12 15:59:08 host savecore: writing core to vmcore.4 How to obtain which process cause system to reboot? -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 16:59:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD011065672 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:59:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7DB8FC5C for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:59:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CC87E821; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:59:40 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, =?utf-8?b?0JrQvtC90YzQutC+0LIg0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lk=?= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:59:39 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <91695508.20090812190107@yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <91695508.20090812190107@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908120859.39234.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:59:41 -0000 On Wednesday 12 August 2009 08:01:07 =D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BD=D1=8C=D0=BA=D0=BE= =D0=B2 =D0=95=D0=B2=D0=B3=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B9 wrote: > Aug 12 15:59:08 host savecore: reboot after panic: integer divide fault > Aug 12 15:59:08 host savecore: writing core to vmcore.4 > > How to obtain which process cause system to reboot? kgdb /boot/kernel/kernel /var/crash/vmcore.4 =2D-=20 Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 17:27:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42FE71065672 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:27:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30198FC43 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:27:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7CHR5oj099446; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:27:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C2458BA9B; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:27:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:27:04 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: PJ Message-ID: <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5vNYLRcllDrimb99" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon , Ian Smith , wmoran@potentialtech.com Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:27:10 -0000 --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:34:49AM -0400, PJ wrote: > I'm actually at the stage of doing the save/copy/transfer or whatever > you can call it: here's what I am thinking and on which I need > clarification. > I ran HDD regenerator and it immediately flagged the very first sector > as being Bad.=20 Is this the program you're talking about? http://store3.esellerate.net/store/ProductInfo.aspx?StoreIDC=3DSTR793615240= &SkuIDC=3DSKU9923428806&pc=3D I'm not an expert on harddisks, but the claims that this program makes seem too good to be true. I wonder what other on the list think of it?=20 You may also find the following link about data recovery enlightening: http://www.mjmdatarecovery.co.uk/data-recovery-articles/bad-sector-errors.h= tml Information encoding techniques on harddisks have changed dramatically over the years to help enable the ever increasing densities. The link to HDD regenerator talks about bad sectors showing. Current harddisks have a numb= er of spare sectors available so that they can remap the data from unreadable sectors, using the error correction bits to restore unreadable data. All th= is is done in the harddisk itself, without even being visible to the user. AFA= IK, a harddisk will only start showing re-allocated sectors in the SMART information after its spare sectors are exhausted. See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_sector] If this is the case, the common advice it to decommission this drive ASAP. You should use 'smartctl' from the sysutils/smartmontools port to check if your harddisk is healthy or failing. 'smartctl -a /dev/' should g= ive complete information. Look at a line containing the text 'Reallocated_Sector_Ct'. If the last number on this line is greater than ze= ro, the disk has run out of spare sectors, and it is time to get a new disk. > On bootint, just before the crash, the boot process > started... hesitated, lurched forward, hesitated and then proceeded to > load only some minutes later closing down with a 177mb dump. > I knew then there was a problem.. :-) Yes. But probably not a problem with the boot sector. Because the machine found and executed the boot code (because it booted). And it succeeded in finding and loading the kernel (because it wrote a dump). Now it is importa= nt to know _why_ the kernel dumped core. It could be that the kernel image was corrupted on disk, pointing to a disk problem. But it can also be something else. So try and see if you can read the slice table with fdisk as described below. If that works, the slice table should be OK. > I have a 2nd disk just checked (with the regenerator - 12 hrs waiting on > 2.4ghz cpu). > If, indeed, the boot sector is the only thing mucked up, I should be > able to copy the rest onto the 2nd(target) disk NP. The question, then, > is how to deal with the boot sector. As I understand it, the boot sector > has the partition information needed to run things for the rest of the > disk. So, copying the damaged source disk will not give me the boot > sector needed. If your boot sector is truly buggered, read the manual pages for the follow= ing utilities: - fdisk(8) - boot0cfg(8) You can re-install the boot code in sector 0 easily with FreeBSD's fdisk. E.g. if you are booting from the /dev/ad4 drive: 'fdisk -B /dev/ad4'. If you can boot from a FreeBSD livecd, try if you can read the slicetable correctly with fdisk to check if it is really damaged. Again assuming the b= ad drive is /dev/ad4, save the output of the following command to a file, and post the contents here. 'fdisk /dev/ad4'. A tip for the future. If you have a newly sliced disk, save the slice table= to a file with 'fdisk -p /dev/ad4 >slicetable-ad4.txt', and save this file away =66rom the computer. If you ever damage the slice table, you can restore it using the file that you saved with 'fdisk -f slicetable-ad4.txt -i /dev/ad4= '. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqC+2gACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXLfwCgpj3LE9qtfiYkOftBQUp40vLy /eEAn0HM0zSsWdybnmAghS69lruyt+HC =ucY3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5vNYLRcllDrimb99-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 17:35:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850A4106566B for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:35:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD158FC4A for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:35:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7CHZ9xQ054517; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:35:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E0373BA9B; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:35:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:35:08 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Joseph Olatt Message-ID: <20090812173508.GB27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20090812152645.GA15068@shell.eskimo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090812152645.GA15068@shell.eskimo.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Racoon VPN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:35:21 -0000 --OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 08:26:45AM -0700, Joseph Olatt wrote: > It appears that racoon2 has been removed from the ports.=20 > Superseded by: ipsec-tools Look closely. security/racoon was removed, not security/racoon2! > [/usr/ports] > xxx@serenity$ make search name=3Dracoon > Port: racoon2-20071227e_1 > Path: /usr/ports/security/racoon2 > Info: Racoon2 IPsec daemon > Maint: sumikawa@FreeBSD.org > B-deps: autoconf-2.61_2 autoconf-wrapper-20071109 m4-1.4.11,1 > perl-5.8.8_1 > R-deps: > WWW: http://www.racoon2.wide.ad.jp/ >=20 > Port: security/racoon > Moved: security/ipsec-tools > Date: 2005-11-18 > Reason: removed, successor is ipsec-tools Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqC/UwACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUCjQCgrGFLwq8kSW7ghlMghcWOWM3w kdgAnRvGYoL8eoD+KvaZgA7brgVc7O77 =cWKD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OwLcNYc0lM97+oe1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 17:51:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5492F1065670 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.com) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8C48FC41 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:51:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n7CHplBC006672 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:51:47 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n7CHpl5T006671; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:51:47 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 3A828B7B7; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:51:18 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20090812093114.GB88171@ei.bzerk.org> (message from Ruben de Groot on Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:31:14 +0200) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20090812175118.3A828B7B7@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:51:18 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: location of user crontab files? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:51:48 -0000 >> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 07:21:08PM -0400, Karl Vogel typed: K> If you're using individual crontab files, be sure to rename /etc/crontab K> or you might have duplicated cronjobs running simultaneously. >> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:31:14 +0200, Ruben de Groot >> said: R> I don't think this is sound advise. Leaving /etc/crontab (the system R> crontab) to do the system maintenance jobs it is supposed to do and R> putting additional scripts and jobs in user tabs is normal practice and R> won't cause any problems. I don't like keeping similar information in multiple places (especially in different formats) because you have to access it in different ways. If I change my own crontab file using "crontab -e", I want to do root's the same way; it's just one less exception for me to remember. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company The idea that 'the public interest' supersedes private interests and rights can have but one meaning: that the interests and rights of some individuals take precedence over the interests and rights of others. --Ayn Rand From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 19:37:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03C4106566C for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: from pencil.math.missouri.edu (pencil.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCFB8FC47 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pencil.math.missouri.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pencil.math.missouri.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7CJOLUG088736 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:24:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: (from rich@localhost) by pencil.math.missouri.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7CJOLxY088735 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:24:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rich) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:24:21 -0500 From: Rich Winkel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090812192421.GA88671@pencil.math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9684/Wed Aug 12 09:35:50 2009 on pencil.math.missouri.edu X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Mathematica 7 license manager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:37:58 -0000 I'm trying to run mathlm for mathematica version 7 under linux_base-fc-4_13 on freebsd 7.1-release-p7. It demonizes and appears to be happy until I try to run mathematica, then it crashes with signal 11. Even running monitorlm causes it to crash. Maxing out the loglevel doesn't produce any more info. Looking at the last access times in /compat/linux/etc, it opens host.conf, ld.so.cache and nsswitch.conf before dying. Has anyone seen this before? Any help would be much appreciated!! Rich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 19:49:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D393A106564A for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:49:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.olyer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com (mail-bw0-f219.google.com [209.85.218.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F07B8FC3D for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:49:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so241543bwz.37 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:49:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=PsQIL16Wg36ZJjdzFXG8wp461r39OUdm4XvNbUgcsvI=; b=Cm1YhJyHcnXF+FPadLP6tX9nsXU8HMXY0PeluUyD3WjaKZzSPEJF2gsI5vvteeoLNw I74/xoSUK9/3575N/c8lNvobUTS7DriX/1JTtTHi2hJRUdaBOCGNS/Mbvz5/opsbohdH sUcZR2ZvNbeKrSWuVLWv5CDXjaYkqznpU+C18= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=W50eXzduYJ8l3FYaqVOrtCQo73FmxKYBdozNoyp1rn5U09QeflZAeYkAWAXtSSoqE+ CpqrQlKPtVEhs2sD+60g6QFtKzgUEIOlxnZmC8f2w831T+w83vbLhrdj74UiWYSHi3AK 1RZGyydO4wIuLSE3Gvx6h7S2Q8Ip1HgWHhrSM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.104.19 with SMTP id m19mr157461fao.40.1250106557071; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:49:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200908111840.05008.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <4A6A72A6.1030009@ibctech.ca> <4A820F9C.8030709@ibctech.ca> <4A8210D8.4050601@ibctech.ca> <200908111840.05008.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:49:17 -0400 Message-ID: <1d7089c40908121249u75b97303xde1269985f0055e8@mail.gmail.com> From: Henry Olyer To: Mel Flynn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Steve Bertrand Subject: Re: A question for developers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:49:19 -0000 Look, use Joe. You won't ever want anything else -- you'll soon forget about meta-escape-alt-@ while holding down the esc-tab-plus key, all the while wishing you had three hands. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Mel Flynn < mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net > wrote: > On Tuesday 11 August 2009 16:46:16 Steve Bertrand wrote: > > Steve Bertrand wrote: > > > but may be handy until I become more fluent, > > > as my first instinct is to hit the BACKSPACE > > > > ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H > > > > ^h key. > > terminal emulation fault. stty erase should fix it, on the > shell that is. > -- > Mel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 19:54:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4B7106564A for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:54:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416FC8FC4B for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:54:42 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KOA00M0L447PMF1@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:43:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:54:31 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Roland Smith References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-reply-to: <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon , Ian Smith , wmoran@potentialtech.com Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:54:42 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:34:49AM -0400, PJ wrote: > >> I'm actually at the stage of doing the save/copy/transfer or whatever >> you can call it: here's what I am thinking and on which I need >> clarification. >> I ran HDD regenerator and it immediately flagged the very first sector >> as being Bad. >> > > Is this the program you're talking about? > http://store3.esellerate.net/store/ProductInfo.aspx?StoreIDC=STR793615240&SkuIDC=SKU9923428806&pc= > > It sure looks like it. Don't recall the version. > I'm not an expert on harddisks, but the claims that this program makes seem > too good to be true. I wonder what other on the list think of it? > > You may also find the following link about data recovery enlightening: > http://www.mjmdatarecovery.co.uk/data-recovery-articles/bad-sector-errors.html > I'll look at it for sure. > Information encoding techniques on harddisks have changed dramatically over > the years to help enable the ever increasing densities. The link to HDD > regenerator talks about bad sectors showing. Current harddisks have a number > of spare sectors available so that they can remap the data from unreadable > sectors, using the error correction bits to restore unreadable data. All this > is done in the harddisk itself, without even being visible to the user. AFAIK, > a harddisk will only start showing re-allocated sectors in the SMART > information after its spare sectors are exhausted. See > [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_sector] If this is the case, the common > advice it to decommission this drive ASAP. > > You should use 'smartctl' from the sysutils/smartmontools port to check if > your harddisk is healthy or failing. 'smartctl -a /dev/' should give > complete information. Look at a line containing the text > 'Reallocated_Sector_Ct'. If the last number on this line is greater than zero, > the disk has run out of spare sectors, and it is time to get a new disk. > > Will try it, too. >> On bootint, just before the crash, the boot process >> started... hesitated, lurched forward, hesitated and then proceeded to >> load only some minutes later closing down with a 177mb dump. >> I knew then there was a problem.. :-) >> > > Yes. But probably not a problem with the boot sector. Because the machine > found and executed the boot code (because it booted). And it succeeded in > finding and loading the kernel (because it wrote a dump). Now it is important > to know _why_ the kernel dumped core. It could be that the kernel image was > corrupted on disk, pointing to a disk problem. But it can also be something > else. > > So try and see if you can read the slice table with fdisk as described > below. If that works, the slice table should be OK. > Well, I've been looking at the disk(s) and I have found some interesting "shei**e" that doesn't make sense. 1. The fbsd minimal installation that I had set up for recovery of the previous crash does not boot... Now, why in Hades is that? I hadn't touched the disk since last using it to look at the corrupted disk through an usb connection. The current crashed installetion was done afterwards and the only change was in the bios to set the boot disk to the new installation. The installation was finally completed with all the programs working fine... and then BOOM! 2. I tried booting from all the disks on the machine (4 disks) and only the current crashed one booted!... so, it's not the boot sector at all... something is screwy on this machine; either the motherboard is buggered (which I doubt, but not entirely), the disks are finished or theres some kind of gremlin lurking in the confines of the box. So, I will proceed to do some more reading and research on all this and then check out the procedures you've suggested below. I may not be able to respond too quickly as I've got a few other devils circling my head... like organizing and adjusting normal living conditions which include garbage, house repairs, sometimes sleeping and often running around the city getting stuff for just plain survival... :-( ;-) :'( I appreciate your response and have already learned quite a lot... it's rather heavy for my little brain, but I'll try to deal with it.. :-) > >> I have a 2nd disk just checked (with the regenerator - 12 hrs waiting on >> 2.4ghz cpu). >> If, indeed, the boot sector is the only thing mucked up, I should be >> able to copy the rest onto the 2nd(target) disk NP. The question, then, >> is how to deal with the boot sector. As I understand it, the boot sector >> has the partition information needed to run things for the rest of the >> disk. So, copying the damaged source disk will not give me the boot >> sector needed. >> > > If your boot sector is truly buggered, read the manual pages for the following > utilities: > - fdisk(8) > - boot0cfg(8) > > You can re-install the boot code in sector 0 easily with FreeBSD's > fdisk. E.g. if you are booting from the /dev/ad4 drive: > 'fdisk -B /dev/ad4'. > > If you can boot from a FreeBSD livecd, try if you can read the slicetable > correctly with fdisk to check if it is really damaged. Again assuming the bad > drive is /dev/ad4, save the output of the following command to a file, and > post the contents here. > > 'fdisk /dev/ad4'. > > A tip for the future. If you have a newly sliced disk, save the slice table to > a file with 'fdisk -p /dev/ad4 >slicetable-ad4.txt', and save this file away > from the computer. If you ever damage the slice table, you can restore it > using the file that you saved with 'fdisk -f slicetable-ad4.txt -i /dev/ad4'. > > Roland > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 21:08:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3F6106573F for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:08:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB168FC44 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:08:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64191EB56BE; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:08:56 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DCB450D0; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:08:56 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hg80aLVUlMEY; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:08:56 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl218-136.kln.forthnet.gr [79.103.31.136]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18EBD45088; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:08:56 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7CL8ska046742 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:08:55 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7CL8qtq046741; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:08:52 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Henry Olyer References: <4A6A72A6.1030009@ibctech.ca> <4A820F9C.8030709@ibctech.ca> <4A8210D8.4050601@ibctech.ca> <200908111840.05008.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <1d7089c40908121249u75b97303xde1269985f0055e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:08:52 +0300 In-Reply-To: <1d7089c40908121249u75b97303xde1269985f0055e8@mail.gmail.com> (Henry Olyer's message of "Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:49:17 -0400") Message-ID: <8763cseo4b.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Steve Bertrand Subject: Re: A question for developers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:08:58 -0000 On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:49:17 -0400, Henry Olyer wrote: > Look, use Joe. > > You won't ever want anything else -- you'll soon forget about > meta-escape-alt-@ while holding down the esc-tab-plus key, all the > while wishing you had three hands. That's not a very good way of describing editors/joe. It is unfair both to other editors and to joe itself. There *are* good points about joe, eg.: - It works very well even with pretty dumb terminals. - It has a very small footprint - It supports many features a `coder' expects (auto indentation, custom tab sizes, macros, etc.) It is much nicer to describe the *good* points about joe, instead of making silly jokes about keyboard shortcuts in other editors. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 23:28:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632E9106566C for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF778FC3F for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:28:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7CNSAG6095239; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:28:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B9D0BBA8F; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:28:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:28:10 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: PJ Message-ID: <20090812232810.GA37833@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon , Ian Smith , wmoran@potentialtech.com Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:28:21 -0000 --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 03:54:31PM -0400, PJ wrote: > Well, I've been looking at the disk(s) and I have found some interesting > "shei**e" that doesn't make sense. > 1. The fbsd minimal installation that I had set up for recovery of the > previous crash does not boot... Now, why in Hades is that? I hadn't > touched the disk since last using it to look at the corrupted disk > through an usb connection. The current crashed installetion was done > afterwards and the only change was in the bios to set the boot disk to > the new installation. The installation was finally completed with all > the programs working fine... and then BOOM! > 2. I tried booting from all the disks on the machine (4 disks) and only > the current crashed one booted!... so, it's not the boot sector at > all... something is screwy on this machine; either the motherboard is > buggered (which I doubt, but not entirely), the disks are finished or > theres some kind of gremlin lurking in the confines of the box. This sounds more and more like hardware troubles.=20 A few things to check (in order of decreasing likelyness IMHO): - Cables to the harddisks: Make sure they are properly connected. A machine= of mine suddenly started getting disk read errors after I put in another graphics card. It turned out that the SATA connector to that drive had co= me partially loose. - Powersupply: check the voltages (preferably under load) with a monitoring app like mbmon. If that's not possible, check in the BIOS. A failing powersupply can give weird unreproducable errors. If you have ever heard a popping noise from the machine it could be a short in the powersupply cau= sed by dust. I've seen that fry motherboards. - PCI cards: check that they are seated properly. Although in this case I'd say this seems the least likely. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqDUAoACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVyugCfflpFn2L82pONMPcqdRYa4qaD LIYAoIxj1wlJXI4+tpOA0c1juo6sCqSJ =1aOZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VbJkn9YxBvnuCH5J-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 01:19:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C17A106566C for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:19:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C960A8FC45 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:19:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so391285qyk.3 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:19:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; bh=5QIWYqlBtOUAW+zLOIjCrvzqpYsRv1nbf30q2ndVqtM=; b=S68KPwJdefXcrzyocZrg+c7ciVFxqC085o7GHKEPz8KIbEDQ1ldg6YmPgn2dFfYGJc hj4JnMqDp27PDlFnolQXpoAgDhEBrqAdyclkEzkzNyD8Q26AmUz1e60F6dG3FdsAyeip bPBRn9fNxOPLqF7i0wERiJE5K4jh5fTLvAiE0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=ccAYjU65NFL9Fks17VJNn6htc7QO+H06kqKZ5Mfl6hnf7PtbgFXp0mKS9wPYqL+S4U Aappcgp8YFI6AGyI6GZkId2IwPCHv20WnAy3NUMgOXUh7T29ACreucnewDgsP1Kj3X2J llbL87uv3Natsu9aslMLhYJsUOMudw+cjvj8M= Received: by 10.224.14.143 with SMTP id g15mr753100qaa.123.1250126345250; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? (CPE-65-29-54-222.wi.res.rr.com [65.29.54.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm483753qwe.5.2009.08.12.18.19.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:19:04 -0700 (PDT) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:18:55 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908122018.55574.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: firefox 2.0.0.20_9,1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:19:06 -0000 Hi! When I run ; portaudit -a Affected package: firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1 Type of problem: mozilla -- multiple vulnerabilities. Reference: but when I check above site I found: Affects: firefox <3.*,1 firefox >3.*,1 <3.0.13,1 firefox >3.5.*,1 <3.5.2,1 linux-firefox <3.*,1 linux-firefox >3.*,1 <3.0.13,1 linux-firefox >3.5.*,1 <3.5.2,1 linux-firefox-devel <3.5.2 seamonkey >0 linux-seamonkey >0 linux-seamonkey-devel >0 thunderbird >0 linux-thunderbird >0 Are problem with firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1 or not, please. -- Mitja ----- http://starikarp.redbubble.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 01:53:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F05106564A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:53:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409318FC15 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E50A3D471; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:53:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7D1rfpT001529; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:53:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:53:41 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-Id: <20090813035341.4b82842d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8763cseo4b.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <4A6A72A6.1030009@ibctech.ca> <4A820F9C.8030709@ibctech.ca> <4A8210D8.4050601@ibctech.ca> <200908111840.05008.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <1d7089c40908121249u75b97303xde1269985f0055e8@mail.gmail.com> <8763cseo4b.fsf@kobe.laptop> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Henry Olyer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Steve Bertrand Subject: Re: A question for developers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:53:44 -0000 On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:08:52 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > There *are* good points about joe, eg.: > > - It works very well even with pretty dumb terminals. > > - It has a very small footprint > > - It supports many features a `coder' expects (auto indentation, > custom tab sizes, macros, etc.) Syntax highlighting! Syntax highlighting! :-) Other points are automatic file backups, different modes (depending on $0) and so on. > It is much nicer to describe the *good* points about joe, instead of > making silly jokes about keyboard shortcuts in other editors. If you make jokes, use the recommended ones, such as the well-known escape-meta-alt-control-shift key combinations. :-) (Finally, I'm the wrong person to have an opinion here, because I never used emacs much; its magic didn't open up to me. But joe is really a great editor, powerful, and still easy to use.) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 01:57:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41524106566C for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:57:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com (mail-bw0-f219.google.com [209.85.218.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADD88FC44 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so455972bwz.37 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:57:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XCXpfNEGnLx5lfkoaJbwY6g+N4CDTWgeZwBgbKTyE/Q=; b=H1XsSkFF+Er+k4QE1uhs3veOQZycJedNQn79lB7IAEIoCCJWTJ0391v7Dm9UsKBVzY fBytUVt1AyB23RlKFH8ZM5AC25XH/Ec89dmWIF6+QG/GwI9w/3ZYvZ2tNkEOCxVq4bGM vX6RxDN4gjbou6vGrNgEXIMtT8y9tj3+XPeoo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GmvifjQOWjo5pxZXd34iF6eUSZR1vVc/N9/AoQT+uu968dTqrmBhAC/h83ji3j+xXD 9FNllDEwIgFx3bVPPR+rs4YFVh5yN4fBvEDxIpoADQ1SixLsDGeaIkdxTby/x+t6QiYR nhYU8fnnku1wuEeNcFxgoaxlqs/i/1UKIUhFI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.123.141 with SMTP id p13mr174279far.84.1250128628483; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:57:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090813035341.4b82842d.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <4A6A72A6.1030009@ibctech.ca> <4A820F9C.8030709@ibctech.ca> <4A8210D8.4050601@ibctech.ca> <200908111840.05008.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <1d7089c40908121249u75b97303xde1269985f0055e8@mail.gmail.com> <8763cseo4b.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20090813035341.4b82842d.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:57:08 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310908121857h25f151a1qef08d41b9d694953@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A question for developers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:57:10 -0000 On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:08:52 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> There *are* good points about joe, eg.: >> >> =A0 - It works very well even with pretty dumb terminals. >> >> =A0 - It has a very small footprint >> >> =A0 - It supports many features a `coder' expects (auto indentation, >> =A0 =A0 custom tab sizes, macros, etc.) > > Syntax highlighting! Syntax highlighting! :-) > > Other points are automatic file backups, different modes > (depending on $0) and so on. > > > >> It is much nicer to describe the *good* points about joe, instead of >> making silly jokes about keyboard shortcuts in other editors. > > If you make jokes, use the recommended ones, such as the > well-known escape-meta-alt-control-shift key combinations. :-) > Don't forget about: C-x M-c M-butterfly [1] :-) [1] - http://xkcd.com/378/ --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 02:07:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861AD106566C for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:07:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4381F8FC4A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:07:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B1B3D589; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:07:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7D271U7001616; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:07:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:07:01 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Charles Oppermann" Message-Id: <20090813040701.34245f03.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <002701ca1b59$b3e132c0$1ba39840$@com> References: <980215.56754.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20090812130546.GA3672@marge.bs.l> <4A82C3DD.7040209@ibctech.ca> <002701ca1b59$b3e132c0$1ba39840$@com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'Steve Bertrand' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please help to uninstall FreeBSD!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:07:03 -0000 On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:32:20 -0400, "Charles Oppermann" wrote: > Correct, and counter to another posters statement that Windows attempts to > wipe entire disks when installing. Yes, that's the default choice, which is > perfectly reasonable, but no Windows Setup will erase entire disks without > plenty of warnings and give users the opportunity to keep existing > partitions, including types it does not recognize. The average "Windows" user does not read what's on the screen anyway, so he will always "next". :-) > Since Windows 2000, the > Setup program allows for deletion of partitions, creating one or more new > partitions, formatting them, etc. Even DOS could do that. > Good luck to the original poster; maybe try out FreeBSD on another machine, > or when the laptop is too old to run modern versions of Windows. It usually is as soon as it is sold. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 02:16:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9726E106564A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:16:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4348FC44 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (really [76.182.207.163]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090813021621498.HXOV22765@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com>; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:16:21 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:16:20 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: ajtiM , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <09042CB775A131A0B1894902@Macintosh-2.local> In-Reply-To: <200908122018.55574.lumiwa@gmail.com> References: <200908122018.55574.lumiwa@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: firefox 2.0.0.20_9,1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:16:24 -0000 --On August 12, 2009 8:18:55 PM -0500 ajtiM wrote: > > Hi! > When I run > > > ; > portaudit -a > Affected package: firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1 > Type of problem: mozilla -- multiple vulnerabilities. > Reference: > > > but when I check above site I found: > Affects: > firefox <3.*,1 > firefox >3.*,1 <3.0.13,1 > firefox >3.5.*,1 <3.5.2,1 > linux-firefox <3.*,1 > linux-firefox >3.*,1 <3.0.13,1 > linux-firefox >3.5.*,1 <3.5.2,1 > linux-firefox-devel <3.5.2 > seamonkey >0 > linux-seamonkey >0 > linux-seamonkey-devel >0 > thunderbird >0 > linux-thunderbird >0 > > Are problem with firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1 or not, please. That port should probably be removed. It's ancient. Use /usr/ports/www/firefox3 or /usr/ports/www/firefox3.5 Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ****************************************** WARNING: Check the headers before replying From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 02:48:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4473106564A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B048FC49 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:48:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4FE7E818; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:48:06 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Paul Schmehl Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:48:04 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <200908122018.55574.lumiwa@gmail.com> <09042CB775A131A0B1894902@Macintosh-2.local> In-Reply-To: <09042CB775A131A0B1894902@Macintosh-2.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908121848.05276.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: ajtiM Subject: Re: firefox 2.0.0.20_9,1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:48:08 -0000 On Wednesday 12 August 2009 18:16:20 Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On August 12, 2009 8:18:55 PM -0500 ajtiM wrote: > > Hi! > > When I run > > > > > > ; > > portaudit -a > > Affected package: firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1 > > Type of problem: mozilla -- multiple vulnerabilities. > > Reference: > > > > > > but when I check above site I found: > > Affects: > > firefox <3.*,1 Given the above, it should be affected. Reading the original documents it doesn't show. And I can't find anywhere that firefox 2 is End of Life. > > firefox >3.*,1 <3.0.13,1 > > firefox >3.5.*,1 <3.5.2,1 > > linux-firefox <3.*,1 > > linux-firefox >3.*,1 <3.0.13,1 > > linux-firefox >3.5.*,1 <3.5.2,1 > > linux-firefox-devel <3.5.2 > > seamonkey >0 > > linux-seamonkey >0 > > linux-seamonkey-devel >0 > > thunderbird >0 > > linux-thunderbird >0 > > > > Are problem with firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1 or not, please. > > That port should probably be removed. It's ancient. If that's ancient, you should do a find /usr/ports -name Makefile -exec ident {} +|grep ' 200[67]/'. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 03:20:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FB1106564A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3378FC45 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:20:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (really [76.182.207.163]) by cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090813032000705.UKZP15914@cdptpa-omta04.mail.rr.com>; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:20:00 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:20:00 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: Mel Flynn , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200908121848.05276.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <200908122018.55574.lumiwa@gmail.com> <09042CB775A131A0B1894902@Macintosh-2.local> <200908121848.05276.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: ajtiM Subject: Re: firefox 2.0.0.20_9,1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:20:02 -0000 --On August 12, 2009 9:48:04 PM -0500 Mel Flynn wrote: > > Given the above, it should be affected. Reading the original documents it > doesn't show. And I can't find anywhere that firefox 2 is End of Life. > Firefox was EOL in December 2008. No security updates or fixes will be released for it. http://www.linuxjournal.com/print/1007661 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Firefox It should be removed from the ports tree. Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ****************************************** WARNING: Check the headers before replying From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 04:05:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26008106566B for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:05:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malathiramya@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD27E8FC5F for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:05:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so459907ewy.43 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:05:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=zjkyDuc3FRyH/dK7ShMkZ4vNmey9daZxB8Pkpz+Dx1Q=; b=d4Ec6CV3HaPZoXAL2VgGOrorgJ0nPyS9ax/kLaSbeDko2qkLQl2jplG3nNNJdYF9y7 GudXMDP9rbZ03m9tiN1qKgjj5TJC0Z3/3nkCUq2XcHvTIC7AieZcfamHmU9oGuaLU604 W9iVvYmnbzgVrlXFbJppTJUuLjLEv0E9A3sao= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=esUzCeEpDCnc5RT6oar0S7pwzDH7alhUvnZ4EGOlQC0HtyHh0fYB4m2B8nzWMXS7Q8 NgRz+G3DKawh+XA6I9NDb+Q4XlN//+jLIwBANrx/JMHSLIduaenjiHv4UFfLkmDZ8Yg1 X5WonceTuM8u397EyvLfr9alMkVJa7kYQA5cE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.52.15 with SMTP id z15mr1053799ebz.34.1250136355664; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:35:55 +0530 Message-ID: From: malathi selvaraj To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: how to set the virtual host in fedora11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:05:57 -0000 i try to set the virtual host in fedora11.but its not working i chage the etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf and etc/hosts/ even also i am not able to get the virtual hosts,please suggest me how to make this. -- Regards, S.Malathi. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 05:07:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDC61065675 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:07:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511088FC3E for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:07:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so468101qyk.3 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:07:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5NnzvY72vNWGUG3lilrSasuBfQqqvc3CM7tmxKH8lDM=; b=IvpCh98ur1FLFfxwihYLqW8onKM1sm3l+1jPCm4sBmVPLDZu5IkvFp9SY+NC/h4CfW Gb9ORJf9gz12IGGmmdMOHICpFiJbWuB1Bvk57ppedkWny5pO6NeHDhg9KJrdiV+9xQb8 wRZ8mEC7vo0p7xkwWWnuNW8spmRr1v+frUkVo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=jEHzv0Tcmu2WLdpOJ9B3y9kA8PWrhl42+vb5l65SAjbM4objrcaW15QC+ihEL1xPDs atRCU7k7Hv5AwlWnIjdoB6Aqs2Oh7kWe4ADnSqhkZ9g7f33aGZebv8/NUskYhnZW74rC Sh6Nh++896mN0H+GmGCMTR8l0hHBkkCY4Stfk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.1.83 with SMTP id 19mr679344qce.68.1250140050647; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:07:30 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640908122207x552681aek7aa1a873d76e4f77@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Fixit mode (live CD): can't find /etc/rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:07:32 -0000 On my recently updated (as in world+ports are up-to-date) FreeBSD 6.4 box i tried to get Xorg running, and after building Xorg from ports and enabling hald and dbus in rc.conf, I get: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode This happens when I boot. Now I'm trying to not start hald and dbus in rc.conf (I think that's what's causing the kernel problem). So I am using the installation CD and going into fixit mode. The problem is that I can't find rc.conf to edit. In /dev: ad0 ad0s1 ad0s1a ad0s1b ad0s1c ad0s1d ad0s1e ad0s1f I tried mounting all of these, and I realized that one of them is /usr and the other one must be /. Seemed that most of the files were there, except for /etc. It's missing altogether. fixit# mount /dev/ad0s1d /mnt fixit# cd /mnt fixit# find . -type f -name rc.conf I tried this with all of the devices above and cannot find it. Like I said I cannot find /etc at all. BTW it would be nice if I could fix the underlying kernel page fault issue, anyone know how? Uninstall Xorg is one way I guess. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 05:18:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D916106564A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:18:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAC78FC3A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3EF7E818; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:18:31 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:18:29 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <560f92640908122207x552681aek7aa1a873d76e4f77@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640908122207x552681aek7aa1a873d76e4f77@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908122118.30184.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Nerius Landys Subject: Re: Fixit mode (live CD): can't find /etc/rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:18:32 -0000 On Wednesday 12 August 2009 21:07:30 Nerius Landys wrote: > On my recently updated (as in world+ports are up-to-date) FreeBSD 6.4 > box i tried to get Xorg running, and after building Xorg from ports > and enabling hald and dbus in rc.conf, I get: > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > > This happens when I boot. Now I'm trying to not start hald and dbus > in rc.conf (I think that's what's causing the kernel problem). So I > am using the installation CD and going into fixit mode. The problem > is that I can't find rc.conf to edit. > > In /dev: > ad0 > ad0s1 > ad0s1a By convention /etc should be on ad0s1a. If it's not, but /boot is there, you may need to fsck. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 05:58:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1E1106564A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:58:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f191.google.com (mail-qy0-f191.google.com [209.85.221.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625788FC49 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:58:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29so480788qyk.3 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:58:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=geK9sx6ubmLnCMbk+L32We7k7EyvtLHh+N2DVP1fbuw=; b=o8v70t0IgnoHx2UsP39zhdEyk6Or+3N7Yf/z9mPXRS7D5Eywhm7+7tG8J4/leHHzED KZMBCE6zgf1i+mfiuhikpsFGQjkmfzpVfNPsQlOoJArbWO1vwz9pNhLbmlrL1H3k4VF6 4erpBxK0H92saU3j+aJdj9eeuno0SF2FYGiUg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AC8p8HJPLKgvlHR41/wvfjokJbEbC3/5uSYsNgCDw+IPxXkIHgu4ewU5870hWWPkG+ fo/fFcUvejsJ9BAA7Y88AYnKn+fMxw2/YV+l1LHJAWMW2isBl3syOQ7bhwUBJpQ20xeY zMK6/U5gQejsx4QMRyTHiQoe3zDgShAaM3jd4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.19.21 with SMTP id y21mr695794qca.27.1250143085688; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:58:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200908122118.30184.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <560f92640908122207x552681aek7aa1a873d76e4f77@mail.gmail.com> <200908122118.30184.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:58:05 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640908122258o2bebc64dm96ec509975c2a0c6@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Mel Flynn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fixit mode (live CD): can't find /etc/rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:58:06 -0000 > By convention /etc should be on ad0s1a. If it's not, but /boot is there, you > may need to fsck. Yeah, When I tired to mount ad0s1a, it gave me something like permission denied or bad superblock. How do I fix this with fsck from the live CD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 06:08:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A43106564A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260358FC54 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:08:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348607E818; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:08:14 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:08:13 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <560f92640908122207x552681aek7aa1a873d76e4f77@mail.gmail.com> <200908122118.30184.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <560f92640908122258o2bebc64dm96ec509975c2a0c6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <560f92640908122258o2bebc64dm96ec509975c2a0c6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908122208.13359.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Nerius Landys Subject: Re: Fixit mode (live CD): can't find /etc/rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:08:15 -0000 On Wednesday 12 August 2009 21:58:05 Nerius Landys wrote: > > By convention /etc should be on ad0s1a. If it's not, but /boot is there, > > you may need to fsck. > > Yeah, When I tired to mount ad0s1a, it gave me something like > permission denied or bad superblock. How do I fix this with fsck from > the live CD? fsck_ffs -p /dev/ad0s1a -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 06:25:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4EF106566B for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:25:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen.mutai@swissportkenya.co.ke) Received: from gsmtp202.iwayafrica.com (gsmtp202.iwayafrica.com [62.128.175.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490FE8FC15 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51020) by gsmtp202.iwayafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MbSgj-0002Ly-Pm for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:17:21 +0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at iwayafrica.com Received: from gsmtp202.iwayafrica.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gsmtp202.iwayafrica.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id aFTpCUMJ9etd for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:17:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.swissportkenya.co.ke ([196.201.150.60]:58501 helo=swissport1.swissportkenya.co.ke) by gsmtp202.iwayafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MbSgh-0002Lk-3d for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:17:20 +0000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:25:41 +0300 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Delivery reports about your e-mail Thread-Index: Acob1n+7Gt/qB9rfT+CpGyeOTdzEKAAAAAdT From: "Stephen Mutai" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Delivery reports about your e-mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:25:48 -0000 Thank you for your e-mail, I am currently out of office as from Friday 10th August 2009 to 17th = August 2009.For all operations and export related issues, Please = contact Peterson Kimeu e- mail : peterson.kimeu@swissportkenya.co.ke Regards steve Mutai 0723-580963 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 08:43:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3837F106566B for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anton@sng.by) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BAB8FC3F for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so552074ewy.43 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.110.5 with SMTP id i5mr3588468ebc.58.1250153019426; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ROOT (port-103-adslby-pool46.infonet.by [81.25.46.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm2120135eyx.53.2009.08.13.01.43.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 13 Aug 2009 01:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:43:37 +0300 From: Anton X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.71.01) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <818438294.20090813114337@sng.by> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How to make CS server autostart on reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Anton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:43:41 -0000 Hello everybode, Can you help me in subject? Cause, if I even place the start script in /= etc/rc.local - it do not starts -- -- Best regards, Anton = ; [1]mailto:anton@sng.by Administrator Feel free to contact me via ICQ 363780596 via Skype dobryak47 via phone +375 29 3320987 References 1. 3D"mailto:anton@sng.by" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 09:39:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAF3106564A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:39:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5268FC15 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1MbWmf-00029E-SB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:39:45 +0000 Received: from pool-70-21-24-136.res.east.verizon.net ([70.21.24.136]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:39:45 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-70-21-24-136.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:39:45 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:39:51 -0400 Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> <20090812232810.GA37833@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-21-24-136.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:39:49 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: [sni[p] > - Powersupply: check the voltages (preferably under load) with a > monitoring app like mbmon. If that's not possible, check in the BIOS. A > failing powersupply can give weird unreproducable errors. If you have > ever heard a popping noise from the machine it could be a short in the > powersupply caused by dust. I've seen that fry motherboards. A marginal to beginning to fail power supply will have more ripple when under heavy load. In the earliest stages it may only manifest when load is extremely heavy, but as time wears on it will get worse. You would have to be looking at it with an oscilloscope to see this. A simple voltage check with something like a VOM that averages power may show voltages within the correct range, but is totally blind to the filtering quality (ripple). It can also account for very weird behaviors. At boot time the current required to spin up the drive is huge relative to the current used during normal operation. If the power supply is only marginal it may only be slipping out of spec during this period and seem to be fine the rest of the time. Easiest way to eliminate is to simply substitute a known good from a working machine that has at least the minimum wattage needed. An example: A WD800JB takes 2.2 amps on the 12 volt rail to spin up, but during normal ops read/write/idle is 350ma with seek being 900ma. The 5 volt rail will use 525ma on spin up, read/write/idle is 800ma with seek at 675 ma. A lot of slightly earlier generations of drives used 2.5 amps or more. Easy to see the 12 volt rail being insufficient wattage and/or out of spec ripple-wise can be a problem. A lot of older cheap power supplies on the market do not have a lot of capacity on the 12 volt rail. [snip] -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 10:56:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052FE106564A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:56:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nedanfor@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0148FC41 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:56:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so997714fge.12 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:56:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RXGta3zqDOZj5QFmqpHISLCGjObNak7l9V9RqvcScBY=; b=v0gUuhGEvFn6LKyHi7PyzySwrFp2UgAwE4FaOcJw4MFycU43c40c3Iep5euNQrlaOS Hflf2BK865qHy/vb09LfZ7WZ9RrsK7YXkMrYHoGFBUX+5U2QyF6BRjzE9PbJElCPx7uG Eb9oRqZQaXnpaRR3CUR8DWWfqio/ICT7txFYA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=bMGwuhAoFOlmXbrq1LMkcanuLhg+1vlLvj+Om9doN0A/0RapSvajiNmGYJJvXq5G63 d8ynuzrW2Zd83Nn/RFObh9wbb/tfAf3AK/xzk73vtHAhDRfCYNtt4ntbQEqBYMo6zF5o UKpU6WJdxGO67AsEebw/vPrfdeNX/tFlDZKy4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.243.15 with SMTP id q15mr636785fgh.21.1250159042765; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:24:02 +0200 Message-ID: From: Under To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Question about supported motherboard (ASUS L1N64 Dual Socket) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:56:59 -0000 I searched for information on your official website, but I didn't found anything... Does FreeBSD support "ASUS L1N64-SLI WS Dual Socket 1207" and "nVidia nForce 680a"? If it doesn't, can you tell me some motherboard with Dual Socket that FreeBSD supports? Thanks for your time, Matteo Rapone. 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I'm sure there are "better" of "pretier" solution but you can use cron to do this for you. As the user which should run this service do: crontab -e then add a rule like: @reboot Then save and exit. Now next time on reboot the will be run. Greetz, Mark PS. CS=3D Counter Strike? Anton wrote: > Hello everybode, > > Can you help me in subject? Cause, if I even place the start script = in > /=3Dtc/rc.local - it do not starts > > -- > > -- > > Best regards, > > Anton =3D [1]mailto:anton@sng.by > > Administrator > > Feel free to contact me > > via ICQ 363780596 > > via Skype dobryak47 > > via phone +375 29 3320987 > > References > > 1. 3D"mailto:anton@sng.by" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= =2Eorg" > =20 --------------enig3548F95D3C2E98CA5308ED61 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqD+G8ACgkQN9xNqOOVnWCPZgCgkU3hj99uK++tr/Tc6CxQeSzE 3TwAoIrrNoJuc4SGloMX5CsUnai1aEeo =TFaI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3548F95D3C2E98CA5308ED61-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 11:32:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8AC106564A; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:32:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stark@mapper.nl) Received: from smtp-out2.tiscali.nl (smtp-out2.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03BF8FC16; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:32:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.170.17.27] (helo=mapper.nl) by smtp-out2.tiscali.nl with esmtp (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1MbYY9-0001ig-Pa; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:32:53 +0200 Received: from bowser ([192.168.0.1] helo=[0.0.0.0]) by mapper.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1MbYY5-000DuT-6P; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:32:49 +0200 Message-ID: <4A83F9DE.3020406@mapper.nl> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:32:46 +0200 From: Mark Stapper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org'" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig08BC94606DA8C530189478F5" Cc: Subject: 8.0-BETA2 not getting my 4Gigs of ram X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:32:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig08BC94606DA8C530189478F5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I'm fully enjoying installing FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 amd64. However, it does not seem to be able to use all my ram. Strangely enough, it says the following: [root@carmen ~]# dmesg |grep memory real memory =3D 2147483648 (2048 MB) avail memory =3D 4112240640 (3921 MB) and [root@carmen ~]# sysctl -a|grep mem [/snip] hw.physmem: 4277510144 hw.usermem: 3954216960 hw.realmem: 4831838208 [/snip] I'm still on a fresh install with a generic kernel. Any ideas as to what might be going on? greetz, Mark --------------enig08BC94606DA8C530189478F5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqD+eAACgkQN9xNqOOVnWC1mgCeOBjbF3hcDZtqONuGVh4CdgmW JmIAn3fQPlYH2rKiCQAFQM+1cHsb/W6D =9til -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig08BC94606DA8C530189478F5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 11:37:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E27106566B for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:37:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anton@sng.by) Received: from mail-ew0-f212.google.com (mail-ew0-f212.google.com [209.85.219.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1A68FC43 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:37:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy8 with SMTP id 8so862459ewy.36 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.91.7 with SMTP id o7mr3862893ebb.25.1250163472306; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ROOT (port-103-adslby-pool46.infonet.by [81.25.46.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm1010004eyg.57.2009.08.13.04.37.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:37:48 +0300 From: Anton X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.71.01) Professional X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <983339165.20090813143748@sng.by> To: Mark Stapper In-Reply-To: <4A83F86B.7030409@mapper.nl> References: <818438294.20090813114337@sng.by> <4A83F86B.7030409@mapper.nl> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: How to make CS server autostart on reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Anton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:37:54 -0000 Hello Mark, under CS server - I mean server for Counter-strike... I've also tried this variant - it is starting. as if from rc.local - but= then it shuts down, and I could not find out why Thursday, August 13, 2009, 2:26:35 PM, you wrote: > Hello, > What do you mean by a CS server? > I'm sure there are "better" of "pretier" soluti= on but you can use cron > to do this for you. > As the user which should run this service do: > crontab -e > then add a rule like: > @reboot > Then save and exit. Now next time on reboot the= will be run. > Greetz, > Mark > PS. CS=3D Counter Strike? > Anton wrote: >> Hello everybode, >> Can you help me in subject? Ca= use, if I even place the start script in >> /=3Dtc/rc.local - it do not st= arts >> -- >> -- >> Best regards, >> Anton &n= bsp; =3D &nbs= p;[1]mailto:anton@sng.by >> Administrator >> Feel free to contact me= >> via ICQ 363780596 >> via Skype dobryak47 >> via phone +375 29 3320987 >> References >> 1. 3D"mailto:anton@sng.by" >> ___________________________________________= ____ [1]>> = freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list [2]>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-qu= estions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-q= uestions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> -- Best regards, Anton &nbs= p; [3]mailto:anton@sng.by Administrator Feel free to contact me via ICQ 363780596 via Skype dobryak47 via phone +375 29 3320987 References 1. 3D"mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" 2. 3D"http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freeb= 3. 3D"mailto:anton@sng.by" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 12:38:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901F21065741 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:38:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507B38FC57 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:38:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MbZZC-00002A-OW; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:38:11 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MbZZ0-0000KL-0o; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:38:02 +0100 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7DCbnjK072165; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:37:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7DCbnru072164; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:37:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:37:49 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: gnome@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090813123749.GB72063@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -3.5 X-Spam-Level: --- Cc: Subject: port sysutils/hal -> fixed_mountpoints - what does this mean? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:38:12 -0000 in port sysutils/hal there is an option fixed_mountpoints= which is "off" by default. Is the meaning of this option documented somewhere? I've had lots of trouble with hal/dbus/X in the past I wonder if my options are to blame. many thanks -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 12:44:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938C1106566B for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:44:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalle.moller@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472748FC86 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:43:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so249242qwe.7 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:43:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=J1WkKhrFHom3aYcfLhB/QlBB/EclKjwDfX97iNDXxxE=; b=ATHc80bVB2T9uda8BZLwvJgIcdP4JNKdnIL9V+3HW/DbgGTR0ki9p6lTrO+vjbGKzy qhHBN0IK65800Xujs/GSD0qLtDZsetKmjTJKFrJXSzQaWZ908nit9yZMmm7JJX3S/9BG 9ylnKynMEvxLQj8uy3Vr7+WR2wGnHFnJNy14Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=MVXinvqYAri8R4WGIkUCI6C0SV3H4qyUHsD6zA8yrusAiCzPi7jZvlr2ONSfQX2tcC XHzM0E1jx3KzqjD8jrV8S9Zeb0NiVUIKbnS/AgNAMT7Wq7+P1/+7O0GFuQBfl+vPWo+5 /dyh+pfP6fGPmgpDRBB7gQoERvoxM0hni7Am4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kalle.moller@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.91.131 with SMTP id n3mr1116461qam.369.1250167438733; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:43:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <983339165.20090813143748@sng.by> References: <818438294.20090813114337@sng.by> <4A83F86B.7030409@mapper.nl> <983339165.20090813143748@sng.by> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:43:58 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0a374c0845b47b18 Message-ID: <8250ac3f0908130543l13dd66b9n9bd390c54cc969fe@mail.gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kalle_M=F8ller?= To: Anton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Mark Stapper , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: How to make CS server autostart on reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:44:00 -0000 No logfiles ?? Sounds like something needs to be started prior to the CS-server 2009/8/13 Anton > > Hello Mark, > > under CS server - I mean server for Counter-strike... > > I've also tried this variant - it is starting. as if from rc.local - > but then it shuts down, and I could not find out why > > Thursday, August 13, 2009, 2:26:35 PM, you wrote: > > > Hello, > > > What do you mean by a CS server? > > > I'm sure there are "better" of "pretier" soluti on but you can use > cron > > > to do this for you. > > > As the user which should run this service do: > > > crontab -e > > > then add a rule like: > > > @reboot > > > Then save and exit. Now next time on reboot the will be > run. > > > Greetz, > > > Mark > > > PS. CS=3D Counter Strike? > > > Anton wrote: > > >> Hello everybode, > > >> Can you help me in subject? Ca use, if I even place the start > script in > > >> /=3Dtc/rc.local - it do not st arts > > >> -- > > >> -- > > >> Best regards, > > >> Anton &n bsp; =3D &nbs p;[1]mailto: > anton@sng.by > > >> Administrator > > >> Feel free to contact me > >> via ICQ 363780596 > > >> via Skype dobryak47 > > >> via phone +375 29 3320987 > > >> References > > >> 1. 3D"mailto:anton@sng.by" > > >> ___________________________________________ ____ > > [1]>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > [2]>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-qu estions > > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-q > uestions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >> > > -- > > Best regards, > > Anton &nbs p; [3]mailto:anton@sng.by > > Administrator > > Feel free to contact me > > via ICQ 363780596 > > via Skype dobryak47 > > via phone +375 29 3320987 > > References > > 1. 3D"mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" > 2. 3D"http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freeb 3. 3D"mailto: > anton@sng.by" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 Med Venlig Hilsen Kalle R. M=F8ller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 12:45:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D031065688 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:45:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 83DF38FC61 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:45:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 34525 invoked by uid 89); 13 Aug 2009 12:45:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 13 Aug 2009 12:45:17 -0000 Message-ID: <4A840AE3.5090904@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:45:23 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <4A6A72A6.1030009@ibctech.ca> <4A820F9C.8030709@ibctech.ca> <4A8210D8.4050601@ibctech.ca> <200908111840.05008.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <1d7089c40908121249u75b97303xde1269985f0055e8@mail.gmail.com> <8763cseo4b.fsf@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <8763cseo4b.fsf@kobe.laptop> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000107000303040201000502" Cc: Henry Olyer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A question for developers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:45:22 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000107000303040201000502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:49:17 -0400, Henry Olyer wrote: >> Look, use Joe. >> >> You won't ever want anything else -- you'll soon forget about >> meta-escape-alt-@ while holding down the esc-tab-plus key, all the >> while wishing you had three hands. > > That's not a very good way of describing editors/joe. It is unfair both > to other editors and to joe itself. > > There *are* good points about joe, eg.: > > - It works very well even with pretty dumb terminals. > > - It has a very small footprint > > - It supports many features a `coder' expects (auto indentation, > custom tab sizes, macros, etc.) > > It is much nicer to describe the *good* points about joe, instead of > making silly jokes about keyboard shortcuts in other editors. I fully agree. To be quite honest, the way Emacs does things doesn't bother me in the least. However, I found that Vi(m) falls more inline with how I work. It only took going through the tutorial a couple of times before I was using it as my full time editor. The tutorial works really well for 'burning in' the actions. I really like how quickly I can move about my docs, run commands/programs from inside the editor, splice external files/command output into the current doc, it's search/replace etc. Vim also does colours/syntax highlighting I found, but quickly disabled the colours, as I didn't like them as much as I thought I would. Giving it a try was no where near as intimidating as I have been told it was. Now that I have the basics down, it's trivial to periodically search the web to find out new things it can do. It is the default editor in FreeBSD, so it's a natural fit anyway. All of the feedback, tips & tricks and config files have been very much appreciated! 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Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:51:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (marcuscom-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::1279]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEBA58FC15; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:51:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7DCpkKe066937; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:51:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Anton Shterenlikht In-Reply-To: <20090813123749.GB72063@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090813123749.GB72063@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-tKLIdI22+CwBBOHzSNuU" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:50:58 -0400 Message-Id: <1250167858.77213.11.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com Cc: gnome@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port sysutils/hal -> fixed_mountpoints - what does this mean? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:51:03 -0000 --=-tKLIdI22+CwBBOHzSNuU Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 13:37 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > in port sysutils/hal there is an option >=20 > fixed_mountpoints=3D >=20 > which is "off" by default. > Is the meaning of this option documented somewhere? This option tells hal to use fixed names for /media mount points instead of volume labels. It should have no effect on being able to detect or mount media. Joe >=20 > I've had lots of trouble with hal/dbus/X in the past > I wonder if my options are to blame. >=20 > many thanks >=20 --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-tKLIdI22+CwBBOHzSNuU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkqEDDEACgkQb2iPiv4Uz4eoMgCfWUFDPTsNl6KfwiQPJWVeJaZs lpQAn3cwEnScLIRuDmyEcRVhs4s/8NbZ =ZLA5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-tKLIdI22+CwBBOHzSNuU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 13:53:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE638106566C for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12A08FC4D for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:53:05 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KOB00J8UI1TX7A0@VL-MO-MR005.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:41:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A841AC2.1050809@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:53:06 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Roland Smith References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> <20090812232810.GA37833@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-reply-to: <20090812232810.GA37833@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon , Ian Smith , wmoran@potentialtech.com Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:53:06 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 03:54:31PM -0400, PJ wrote: > >> Well, I've been looking at the disk(s) and I have found some interesting >> "shei**e" that doesn't make sense. >> 1. The fbsd minimal installation that I had set up for recovery of the >> previous crash does not boot... Now, why in Hades is that? I hadn't >> touched the disk since last using it to look at the corrupted disk >> through an usb connection. The current crashed installetion was done >> afterwards and the only change was in the bios to set the boot disk to >> the new installation. The installation was finally completed with all >> the programs working fine... and then BOOM! >> 2. I tried booting from all the disks on the machine (4 disks) and only >> the current crashed one booted!... so, it's not the boot sector at >> all... something is screwy on this machine; either the motherboard is >> buggered (which I doubt, but not entirely), the disks are finished or >> theres some kind of gremlin lurking in the confines of the box. >> > > This sounds more and more like hardware troubles. > > A few things to check (in order of decreasing likelyness IMHO): > - Cables to the harddisks: Make sure they are properly connected. A machine of > mine suddenly started getting disk read errors after I put in another > graphics card. It turned out that the SATA connector to that drive had come > partially loose. > - Powersupply: check the voltages (preferably under load) with a monitoring > app like mbmon. If that's not possible, check in the BIOS. A failing > powersupply can give weird unreproducable errors. If you have ever heard a > popping noise from the machine it could be a short in the powersupply caused > by dust. I've seen that fry motherboards. > - PCI cards: check that they are seated properly. Although in this case I'd > say this seems the least likely. > > Roland > I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give some insight on what is see from this end: Ok, I've had all night to (subliminally) think about all this and actually, I am tending more toward problems in FreeBSD... (this is not an apology or a defense of my lack of knowledge or capacities, just a clarification so you know what kind of a dummy you're dealing with) First, let me explain that everything that we have been talking about - the recovery methods, installation, hardware problems, etc. are all extremely, and I mean extremely, subject to an awful lot of variables. Therefore, determining what exactly has or is going wrong is almost a complete impossibility. Let me explain and you will get an idea of what I mean (and of the difficulties I am facing). First, I am not an experienced programmer or expert on anything in the area of computers... however, I am probably one of the most, I would say not typical but most llikely users of FreeBSD (or any BSD) systems. I have been usiing FBSD for more than 10 years on and off and not heavily. I have installed quite a few instances of FBSD. I still have 1 system v. 4.10 as an archive of a couple of older websites I had some 12 years ago - (too complicated to migrate from postgresql to mysql and to newer versions because of IP host configurations); another v. 6.4 (or .2 - whatever) and they work fine. I had v. 7 installed on the machine I am working on now (on XP as it was multi-boot) and another 7.1 on another machine. The troubles began when I tried to install flashplayer on the 7.1 machine. At the same time I did manage to arrange my daughters portable Acer Travelmate 4400 running on AMD Turion 64bit; it was a low end snail paced horrow with XP so I got rid of that in installed FBSD 64bit and got it work just fine with X Windows, Firefox and even flashplayer under Linux emulation. This was a few weeks ago... it's still running fine. But upgrading to 7.2 and installing flashplayer was pretty much an impossibility on both of my machines - after extremely time-consuming (easily several days of long waits for compilation) setups, installs, reinstallsand portupgrades, all the programs I need finally came together in a very satisfying configuration. What I needed - Samba, apache22, php5.1, mysql, phpMyAdmin, Xorg, java, firefox, flashplayer, cups, NetBeans and Openoffice.org along with a few small proggies like bash4 and fluxbox for X. Everything seemed to work fine. I ran all the programs and saw that all the files I had recovered from the crash were recovered and working. Man, was I ever happy! I shut down for the night and looked forward to getting bask to normal development of my current projects. In the morning, I boot up and WHAM!... the system is f**cked. And so am I. Now, the problem is that it is imperative to be able to figure out what exactly is going on. Well, the problem with that is that I do not seem to be in a position to do what is required. For one thing, I do not know how I can save testing output to an external file when I am working on a temporary shell on the problem machine. Perhaps you could indicate what I should be doing or where to look for information. Another problem is rather a strange quirk or I don't know what - The problems I am having are on two very similar machines: 1 is a MSI 6758 875P NeoFisr motherboard running on a Pentium 3.0ghz CPU; the other is the identical board with a Pentium 2.4ghz CPU. The strange thing is that even with identical bios, the bios does not act the same on both machines. The final install that was so promising was on the 2.4 ghz machine. Except for being somewhat slower (I find it rather slow compared to the the 3ghz, but maybe that's normal) it always worked without problems. And in checking the disks with fdisk, fsck, and even running that weird regenerate progam... I wasn't able to come up with anything significant... that is, the configuration of the disks seemed to be ok, the boot sector was ok as it was able to boot but the when the system was being mounted something went wrong... and looking back, I vaguely recall something about a "soft update" or something like that which seems to indicate some stumbling block in the software and not hardware. Now there a a couple of weird symptoms that don't make any sense to me anyway - I tried booting a minimal installation on the 2.4ghz machine from a disk that was set up before the crashed disk was installed and that boot did not work... there was no reason for it to not work... all it had was a functioning samba and bash4 with cvsup-without-gui and it worked fine for checking and recovering files from the other disks both on the machine and through usb. All that I am seeing is that there is either a problem with the bios (which I even reinstalled and that changed nothing in the functioning) or something is going on with the OS. I must say, it is weird that with FBSD 7.2 things have not been going well at all... I now have set up another instance of 7.2 on a different disk on the 2.4ghz machine and I already find something strange... after installing the minimum configuration, I installed the packages - samba3.3.3, cvsup-without-gui, and smartmontools. I tried to run smartctl and cvsup but nothing worked. The path variable was correct but the shell just would not pick up on it. I had to start the programs from their directories. That just doesn't make sense. So, now I am trying to set up 7.2 on this new disk and let's see what happens. I'm going to run some tests on those disks, including the one that maybe is defective... I'll post results if possilbe. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 14:33:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58D5106564A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:33:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joji@eskimo.com) Received: from ultra7.eskimo.com (ultra7.eskimo.com [204.122.16.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8638FC62 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:33:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shell.eskimo.com (root@shell.eskimo.com [204.122.16.72]) by ultra7.eskimo.com (8.14.0/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7DEXE26018181; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:33:14 -0700 Received: from shell.eskimo.com (joji@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shell.eskimo.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7DEXGX8003848; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:33:16 -0700 Received: (from joji@localhost) by shell.eskimo.com (8.14.3/8.12.10/Submit) id n7DEXGXq003847; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:33:16 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:33:16 -0700 From: Joseph Olatt To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20090813143316.GA29672@shell.eskimo.com> References: <20090812152645.GA15068@shell.eskimo.com> <20090812173508.GB27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090812173508.GB27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Racoon VPN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:33:18 -0000 On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:35:08PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 08:26:45AM -0700, Joseph Olatt wrote: > > It appears that racoon2 has been removed from the ports. > > Superseded by: ipsec-tools > > Look closely. security/racoon was removed, not security/racoon2! Thanks for the correction. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 14:51:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB536106566C; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s27.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s27.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93ADE8FC5D; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY126-W11 ([65.55.131.46]) by bay0-omc3-s27.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:39:23 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [214.4.253.97] From: Sean Cavanaugh To: , , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:39:22 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4A83F9DE.3020406@mapper.nl> References: <4A83F9DE.3020406@mapper.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2009 14:39:23.0227 (UTC) FILETIME=[D984C2B0:01CA1C23] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: RE: 8.0-BETA2 not getting my 4Gigs of ram X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:51:22 -0000 =20 > Date: Thu=2C 13 Aug 2009 13:32:46 +0200 > From: stark@mapper.nl > To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org=3B freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > CC:=20 > Subject: 8.0-BETA2 not getting my 4Gigs of ram >=20 > Hello=2C >=20 > I'm fully enjoying installing FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 amd64. > However=2C it does not seem to be able to use all my ram. > Strangely enough=2C it says the following: > [root@carmen ~]# dmesg |grep memory > real memory =3D 2147483648 (2048 MB) > avail memory =3D 4112240640 (3921 MB) >=20 > and > [root@carmen ~]# sysctl -a|grep mem > [/snip] > hw.physmem: 4277510144 > hw.usermem: 3954216960 > hw.realmem: 4831838208 > [/snip] >=20 > I'm still on a fresh install with a generic kernel. > Any ideas as to what might be going on? > greetz=2C > Mark >=20 >=20 need to enable PAE mode in the kernel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 14:58:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E6E106564A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:58:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 000908FC3A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:58:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so845379fxm.36 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:58:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wrCIep9rH1tpObqZnjvhnz3e/+1UYjMhxD0zybkEAno=; b=moBoTfm2b2J+KbKtKRroM2/nmONZciYF5C6A8BjU8qXezxbVtKM7Vi1NnUmWBPfAB1 pbP1tjugr4f+JHRNXRe4N17XKax9z6ePqr2MchpInrHO1y1ximMTAt83436ZQkbbABgJ bE7fcJKggrPigWQLbEsCpxdkX/n/dzI96HP+I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Styno6ujam+K4kab1z/lB02vcmkV9MXEayTlYBJnuUcZGl55gHYIzyZU9PzooY1FH2 P0MIohs577hxS+VhtTupiME9Gde8YyiHk0o9Z60xGQlNMMsg1nmd6g3fpRjykCtU7y5s 77p8NVZKtG5nASgaQUCXDI+56YIaEiP4WsMuo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.3.137 with SMTP id 9mr375809fan.45.1250175512875; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:58:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4A83F9DE.3020406@mapper.nl> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:58:32 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310908130758r3bdb8b0bl91ba8dcbe477576e@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Sean Cavanaugh , stark@mapper.nl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.0-BETA2 not getting my 4Gigs of ram X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:58:35 -0000 > need to enable PAE mode in the kernel Not for amd64. Mark, What is the output of 'uname -a'? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 15:13:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709B0106566B for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:13:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F068FC3A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so286097qwe.7 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:13:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EaxYXYKrM5N51x9fbNq63NO7k/pdPtlhKLA72XcG2Vo=; b=IwhtfN9PzCdEOLW9QuM7dQbrnu2VbY9sJrejr8vTEgMjX9qyHsXvL59oa5kXs5iZrm 1otGThtg1cOiXdhYOxRGl5n4mt2lwzd/Nhj/adPBLWm3PHVV2eKVmzZf/GtFMtbfygzN +U2uERbi/N6+5gTASOGacVR1/0rDAo251wnGs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=B00vtGfiE1jmzZEektAY7iP6Y0CKELouAlI672G7ZevTxjKLD3/Lc9L1R3zydlk6I8 ImiRg2jE6B1YgXDy2RMumMTu/9ys1YFHBpLsgB3J3wUxShmJbgfEyioiw979ZqC8P/nR m576D6W8RBSF46N2K5kTkXItyABxEiDu0B51s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.41.13 with SMTP id m13mr934345qce.85.1250176384258; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:13:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200908122208.13359.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <560f92640908122207x552681aek7aa1a873d76e4f77@mail.gmail.com> <200908122118.30184.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <560f92640908122258o2bebc64dm96ec509975c2a0c6@mail.gmail.com> <200908122208.13359.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:13:04 -0700 Message-ID: <560f92640908130813y4b8fdfdfp54da10ae3e02a5e6@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: Mel Flynn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fixit mode (live CD): can't find /etc/rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:13:05 -0000 > fsck_ffs -p /dev/ad0s1a Thanks you so much for your genius information. My computer boots again! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 17:04:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A991065679 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:04:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bcook@poughkeepsieschools.org) Received: from a.outbound.bsdwebsolutions.com (a.outbound.bsdwebsolutions.com [64.72.68.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936A18FC57 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.bsdwebsolutions.com ([64.72.68.15]) by a.outbound.bsdwebsolutions.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (BSD Web Solutions, Inc.) (envelope-from ) id 1Mbd7B-000DmA-OS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:25:21 -0400 Received: from [207.241.248.11] (port=49162 helo=mail.poughkeepsieschools.org) by mail.bsdwebsolutions.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (BSD WebSolutions, Inc.) (envelope-from ) id 1Mbd7B-000PeV-JL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:25:21 -0400 Received: from [10.20.0.10] (port=56196 helo=mbookpro.tcentral.lan) by mail.poughkeepsieschools.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (BSD WebSolutions, Inc.) (envelope-from ) id 1Mbd7B-000DP8-Bs for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (authenticated as bcook@poughkeepsieschools.org); Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:25:21 -0400 X-BSD-Virus-Check: ClamAV 0.94.2/9692 on mail.poughkeepsieschools.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:25:21 -0400 Message-ID: <4A843E71.4080101@poughkeepsieschools.org> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:25:21 -0400 From: "B. Cook" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 207.241.248.11 Subject: reboot after panic: ufs_dirbad: /var... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:04:53 -0000 Here is the full error: Aug 13 09:29:57 gameface savecore: reboot after panic: ufs_dirbad: /var: bad dir ino 3485849 at offset 3584: mangled entry The error causes the machine to keep rebooting on its own over and over again. i386 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Wed May 20 16:56:48 EDT 2009 It is running a GENERIC kernel with ALTQ in it, and DEVICE_POLLING The machine will not reboot on its own, but if you start in single user mode, fsck /var and then mount it; and exit.. the box will start.. It will do this everytime; any suggestions? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 17:21:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C61106566B; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:21:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB8B8FC16; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:21:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [85.175.178.141] (helo=moosi) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1Mbdzk-000B9X-KM; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:21:45 +0400 To: Rich Winkel References: <20090812192421.GA88671@pencil.math.missouri.edu> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:23:04 +0400 In-Reply-To: <20090812192421.GA88671@pencil.math.missouri.edu> (Rich Winkel's message of "Wed\, 12 Aug 2009 14\:24\:21 -0500") Message-ID: <10995191@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mathematica 7 license manager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:21:47 -0000 (redirecting to freebsd-emulation@, please trim freebsd-questions@) Rich Winkel writes: > I'm trying to run mathlm for mathematica version 7 under linux_base-fc-4_13 on > freebsd 7.1-release-p7. > > It demonizes and appears to be happy until I try to run mathematica, > then it crashes with signal 11. Even running monitorlm causes it > to crash. Maxing out the loglevel doesn't produce any more info. > > Looking at the last access times in /compat/linux/etc, it opens host.conf, > ld.so.cache and nsswitch.conf before dying. > > Has anyone seen this before? Any help would be much appreciated!! As for me I can say that there were many changes to linuxulator not only at FreeBSD-7.2 but at 7-STABLE. Can you try it or even 8-BETA and report back? BTW, 8-BETA has linux_base-f10 as a default linux base port. -- WBR, bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 18:41:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4BC106564A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:41:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDCC8FC43 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:41:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from haran.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090813184112575.TGUP8734@hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:41:12 +0000 Received: from email.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by haran.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7DIfBeg032255 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:41:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from 69.129.174.18 (SquirrelMail authenticated user djp) by email.polands.org with HTTP; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:41:11 -0500 Message-ID: <7d2de488296a7171d53c264498ca7e7e.squirrel@email.polands.org> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:41:11 -0500 From: "Doug Poland" To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: Partions per slice limitation removed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:41:14 -0000 Hello, I thought I recalled reading, within the last few months, that there is no longer a 8 partition/slice limitation in FreeBSD. I've been googling and reading man pages to verify that but cannot find any documentation to support it. Was I dreaming? -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 18:57:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA7C1065705 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:57:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6098FC45 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:57:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7DIvQfw042024; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:57:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1A29FBA9D; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:57:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:57:26 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: PJ Message-ID: <20090813185726.GA66607@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> <20090812232810.GA37833@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A841AC2.1050809@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A841AC2.1050809@videotron.ca> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon , Ian Smith , wmoran@potentialtech.com Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:57:32 -0000 --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ wrote: > I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give > some insight on what is see from this end: >=20 > Ok, I've had all night to (subliminally) think about all this and > actually, I am tending more toward problems in FreeBSD... (this is not > an apology or a defense of my lack of knowledge or capacities, just a > clarification so you know what kind of a dummy you're dealing with) > First, let me explain that everything that we have been talking about - > the recovery methods, installation, hardware problems, etc. are all > extremely, and I mean extremely, subject to an awful lot of variables. I don't understand? I must confess that I find your explanations sometimes a bit vague. You're sitting in front of the machine with the problems. We (on the mailing list) see only what you say. It is difficult for me at least to piece together wh= at exactly happened. If you are reporting errors, try to be as specific as possible. E.g. don't = say "I updated the machine and it doesn't boot anymore". Start with something l= ike: "After running freebsd-update with the options blabla" or "after updating t= he machine from the 7.2 CD making the following choices...". And then say "I g= ot stuck in the FreeBSD logo screen", or "I got stuck on a screen showing the lines 'Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader' and 'boot:'". That gives us at least a chance to see what has gone wrong. I must say that I have never used the method of updating from CD. I tend to update the system sources with csup(8), and then rebuild the kernel and applications from source as explained in the Handbook. This hase never fail= ed me yet. > Therefore, determining what exactly has or is going wrong is almost a > complete impossibility. Let me explain and you will get an idea of what > I mean (and of the difficulties I am facing). > The troubles began when I tried to install flashplayer on the > 7.1 machine.=20 I guess I missed that? Can't remember. > At the same time I did manage to arrange my daughters > portable Acer Travelmate 4400 running on AMD Turion 64bit; it was a low > end snail paced horrow with XP so I got rid of that in installed FBSD > 64bit and got it work just fine with X Windows, Firefox and even > flashplayer under Linux emulation. This was a few weeks ago... it's > still running fine. > But upgrading to 7.2 and installing flashplayer was pretty much an > impossibility on both of my machines - after extremely time-consuming > (easily several days of long waits for compilation) setups, installs, > reinstallsand portupgrades, all the programs I need finally came > together in a very satisfying configuration. What I needed - Samba, > apache22, php5.1, mysql, phpMyAdmin, Xorg, java, firefox, flashplayer, > cups, NetBeans and Openoffice.org along with a few small proggies like > bash4 and fluxbox for X. Everything seemed to work fine. I ran all the > programs and saw that all the files I had recovered from the crash were > recovered and working. Man, was I ever happy! > I shut down for the night and looked forward to getting bask to normal > development of my current projects. > In the morning, I boot up and WHAM!... the system is f**cked. And so am I. Did you use 'nextboot' by any chance? > Now, the problem is that it is imperative to be able to figure out what > exactly is going on. Well, the problem with that is that I do not seem > to be in a position to do what is required.=20 > For one thing, I do not know how I can save testing output to an external > file when I am working on a temporary shell on the problem machine. Perha= ps > you could indicate what I should be doing or where to look for informatio= n. Insert a USB thumbdrive and mount it. Copy the files to it, unmount. The GENERIC kernel on the CD should have all the necessary drivers for this to = work. Assuming that you're logged in as root, and that your USB drive is recogniz= ed as /dev/da0s1: mkdir /usbdrive mount_msdosfs -m 644 -M 755 -l -o noatime -o sync /dev/da0s1 /usbdrive # copy the files you need... umount /usbdrive > Another problem is rather a strange quirk or I don't know what - The > problems I am having are on two very similar machines: 1 is a MSI 6758 > 875P NeoFisr motherboard running on a Pentium 3.0ghz CPU; the other is > the identical board with a Pentium 2.4ghz CPU. The strange thing is that > even with identical bios, the bios does not act the same on both > machines.=20 I don't understand what you mean by that? What do you mean by "doesn't act = the same"?=20 > The final install that was so promising was on the 2.4 ghz > machine. Except for being somewhat slower (I find it rather slow > compared to the the 3ghz, but maybe that's normal) it always worked > without problems. CPU speed is not the only factor, and probably not the dominating factor in overall performance. The speed of the RAM and especially the harddisk(s) can have a much larger inpact because they are several orders of magnitude slow= er than the CPU. > And in checking the disks with fdisk, fsck, and even running that weird > regenerate progam... I wasn't able to come up with anything Please capture the output from running fdisk and bsdlabel on the problem di= sk and post it here. Maybe we can see something that didn't catch your eye. > significant... that is, the configuration of the disks seemed to be ok, > the boot sector was ok as it was able to boot but the when the system > was being mounted something went wrong... and looking back, I vaguely > recall something about a "soft update" or something like that which > seems to indicate some stumbling block in the software and not hardware. Soft updates is a technique employed by the filesystem to ensure that the f= ile system stays consistent. See ffs(7): 'man 7 ffs'. And "something went wrong" and "I vaguely recall something about soft update" is not a lot for us to g= o on... You know that you can use 'dmesg|less' to recall messages that the kernel p= ut out? Or use 'tail -n 100 /var/log/messages|less'. > Now there a a couple of weird symptoms that don't make any sense to me > anyway - I tried booting a minimal installation on the 2.4ghz machine > from a disk that was set up before the crashed disk was installed and > that boot did not work... there was no reason for it to not work...=20 If it doesn't boot there is a reason for it. But without information as to what _exactly_ you did to make it boot from that disk, and what happened (as in did what did you see the different boot screens) nobody can tell you what happened. > all it had was a functioning samba and bash4 with cvsup-without-gui and it > worked fine for checking and recovering files from the other disks both on > the machine and through usb. You don't need cvsup-without-gui anymore. A new utility written in C called csup is part of the base system since 6.2, I believe. > All that I am seeing is that there is either a problem with the bios > (which I even reinstalled and that changed nothing in the functioning) > or something is going on with the OS. > I must say, it is weird that with FBSD 7.2 things have not been going > well at all... I don't want to be rude, but you could have made a mistake somewhere. If you're futzing around with disks and partitions it is quite easy to screw something up. Even for people with lots of experience it is sometimes a case of PEBKAC. :-) > I now have set up another instance of 7.2 on a different disk on the > 2.4ghz machine and I already find something strange... after installing > the minimum configuration, I installed the packages - samba3.3.3, > cvsup-without-gui, and smartmontools. I tried to run smartctl and cvsup > but nothing worked. The path variable was correct but the shell just > would not pick up on it. I had to start the programs from their directori= es. > That just doesn't make sense. That is not a mystery. The default FreeBSD shell, tcsh, doesn't pick up new programs automatically (for historical reasons) After you install new programs, you have to give the 'rehash' command for tcsh to pick them up. See 'rehash' in the tcsh manual page, tcsh(1). Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqEYhUACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUjEwCcCn7tOaHy3Wsw9cUxav9VhGLL dnoAnjcXZwfvsVeURzV2ejzzjflioNXs =yqCU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 19:15:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2414A106564A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:15:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6E88FC4F for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:15:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7DJFDRK065429; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:15:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 97A33BA9D; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:15:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:15:13 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "B. Cook" Message-ID: <20090813191513.GB66607@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4A843E71.4080101@poughkeepsieschools.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A843E71.4080101@poughkeepsieschools.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reboot after panic: ufs_dirbad: /var... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:15:21 -0000 --H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 12:25:21PM -0400, B. Cook wrote: > Here is the full error: >=20 > Aug 13 09:29:57 gameface savecore: reboot after panic: ufs_dirbad: /var:= =20 > bad dir ino 3485849 at offset 3584: mangled entry >=20 > The error causes the machine to keep rebooting on its own over and over= =20 > again. You are not using the partition that contains /var as the dump device, are = you? =20 > i386 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Wed May 20 16:56:48 EDT 2009 >=20 > It is running a GENERIC kernel with ALTQ in it, and DEVICE_POLLING >=20 > The machine will not reboot on its own, but if you start in single user= =20 > mode, fsck /var and then mount it; and exit.. the box will start.. >=20 > It will do this everytime; any suggestions? Disable saving coredumps bt setting 'dumpdev=3D"NO"' in /etc/rc.conf. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqEZkEACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUdWACbBCajG61gIUEsNpSEskw/adTh RqUAnRJ2oNVTvRauGnxk6R0eS8evJjpC =XTzX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --H+4ONPRPur6+Ovig-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 19:58:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256BC106564A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:58:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC3E8FC5A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:58:32 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KOB00M32ZHJYHD0@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:58:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A847069.5050802@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:58:33 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Roland Smith References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> <20090812232810.GA37833@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A841AC2.1050809@videotron.ca> <20090813185726.GA66607@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-reply-to: <20090813185726.GA66607@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon , Ian Smith , wmoran@potentialtech.com Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:58:33 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ wrote: > >> I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give >> some insight on what is see from this end: >> >> Ok, I've had all night to (subliminally) think about all this and >> actually, I am tending more toward problems in FreeBSD... (this is not >> an apology or a defense of my lack of knowledge or capacities, just a >> clarification so you know what kind of a dummy you're dealing with) >> First, let me explain that everything that we have been talking about - >> the recovery methods, installation, hardware problems, etc. are all >> extremely, and I mean extremely, subject to an awful lot of variables. >> > > I don't understand? > > I must confess that I find your explanations sometimes a bit vague. You're > sitting in front of the machine with the problems. We (on the mailing list) > see only what you say. It is difficult for me at least to piece together what > exactly happened. > > If you are reporting errors, try to be as specific as possible. E.g. don't say > "I updated the machine and it doesn't boot anymore". Start with something like: > "After running freebsd-update with the options blabla" or "after updating the > machine from the 7.2 CD making the following choices...". And then say "I got > stuck in the FreeBSD logo screen", or "I got stuck on a screen showing the > lines 'Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader' and 'boot:'". That gives us at > least a chance to see what has gone wrong. > > I must say that I have never used the method of updating from CD. I tend to > update the system sources with csup(8), and then rebuild the kernel and > applications from source as explained in the Handbook. This hase never failed > me yet. > > 1. Reporting the errors is a little difficult because more often than not, the errors fly by too fast to be fully understandable. 2. I usually and never (since way, way back) do not update from a CD, except to boot up; I do the rest over ftp from the main source at freebsd.org. and I use cvsup-without-gui. :-) >> Therefore, determining what exactly has or is going wrong is almost a >> complete impossibility. Let me explain and you will get an idea of what >> I mean (and of the difficulties I am facing). >> > > >> The troubles began when I tried to install flashplayer on the >> 7.1 machine. >> > > I guess I missed that? Can't remember. > > >> At the same time I did manage to arrange my daughters >> portable Acer Travelmate 4400 running on AMD Turion 64bit; it was a low >> end snail paced horrow with XP so I got rid of that in installed FBSD >> 64bit and got it work just fine with X Windows, Firefox and even >> flashplayer under Linux emulation. This was a few weeks ago... it's >> still running fine. >> > > >> But upgrading to 7.2 and installing flashplayer was pretty much an >> impossibility on both of my machines - after extremely time-consuming >> (easily several days of long waits for compilation) setups, installs, >> reinstallsand portupgrades, all the programs I need finally came >> together in a very satisfying configuration. What I needed - Samba, >> apache22, php5.1, mysql, phpMyAdmin, Xorg, java, firefox, flashplayer, >> cups, NetBeans and Openoffice.org along with a few small proggies like >> bash4 and fluxbox for X. Everything seemed to work fine. I ran all the >> programs and saw that all the files I had recovered from the crash were >> recovered and working. Man, was I ever happy! >> I shut down for the night and looked forward to getting bask to normal >> development of my current projects. >> In the morning, I boot up and WHAM!... the system is f**cked. And so am I. >> > > Did you use 'nextboot' by any chance? > Don't know what that is; never heard of it, thus never used it. > >> Now, the problem is that it is imperative to be able to figure out what >> exactly is going on. Well, the problem with that is that I do not seem >> to be in a position to do what is required. >> > > >> For one thing, I do not know how I can save testing output to an external >> file when I am working on a temporary shell on the problem machine. Perhaps >> you could indicate what I should be doing or where to look for information. >> > > Insert a USB thumbdrive and mount it. Copy the files to it, unmount. The > GENERIC kernel on the CD should have all the necessary drivers for this to work. > Assuming that you're logged in as root, and that your USB drive is recognized > as /dev/da0s1: > > mkdir /usbdrive > mount_msdosfs -m 644 -M 755 -l -o noatime -o sync /dev/da0s1 /usbdrive > # copy the files you need... > umount /usbdrive > I'll try that; oddly, I was able to use my SanDisk 4gb cruzer before. Chuck it into usb, mount /dev/cd0 to /mnt and go to it. But now, for some strange reason it just wont mount. I'm getting messages that it's not readable - "g_vfs_done input output error" and attempt to query device size failed, medium may have changed. But the stick is fully insertable, readable, removable from XP; as it was on FBSD. Weird. > >> Another problem is rather a strange quirk or I don't know what - The >> problems I am having are on two very similar machines: 1 is a MSI 6758 >> 875P NeoFisr motherboard running on a Pentium 3.0ghz CPU; the other is >> the identical board with a Pentium 2.4ghz CPU. The strange thing is that >> even with identical bios, the bios does not act the same on both >> machines. >> > > I don't understand what you mean by that? What do you mean by "doesn't act the > same"? > > When turning on the computer, hit del and the bios setup comes on almost immediately on the 3ghz machine. On the 2.4 machine it takes much, much longer to start up (the monitor is Hitachi superScan Elite 812 on the 3ghz machine, hitachi CM751 on the 2.4ghz) and when del is pressed the bios goes through the entire scanniing process and then restarts before finally going into the bios... and the versions of the bios and the setup are both identical in nubers but, if I recall correctly, there are some minor differences in some of the more arcane options that I never even look at. And in general it always ran a bit sluggish. >> The final install that was so promising was on the 2.4 ghz >> machine. Except for being somewhat slower (I find it rather slow >> compared to the the 3ghz, but maybe that's normal) it always worked >> without problems. >> > > CPU speed is not the only factor, and probably not the dominating factor in > overall performance. The speed of the RAM and especially the harddisk(s) can > have a much larger inpact because they are several orders of magnitude slower > than the CPU. > > >> And in checking the disks with fdisk, fsck, and even running that weird >> regenerate progam... I wasn't able to come up with anything >> > > Please capture the output from running fdisk and bsdlabel on the problem disk > and post it here. Maybe we can see something that didn't catch your eye. > > >> significant... that is, the configuration of the disks seemed to be ok, >> the boot sector was ok as it was able to boot but the when the system >> was being mounted something went wrong... and looking back, I vaguely >> recall something about a "soft update" or something like that which >> seems to indicate some stumbling block in the software and not hardware. >> > > Soft updates is a technique employed by the filesystem to ensure that the file > system stays consistent. See ffs(7): 'man 7 ffs'. And "something went wrong" > and "I vaguely recall something about soft update" is not a lot for us to go on... > > You know that you can use 'dmesg|less' to recall messages that the kernel put > out? Or use 'tail -n 100 /var/log/messages|less'. > > >> Now there a a couple of weird symptoms that don't make any sense to me >> anyway - I tried booting a minimal installation on the 2.4ghz machine >> from a disk that was set up before the crashed disk was installed and >> that boot did not work... there was no reason for it to not work... >> > > If it doesn't boot there is a reason for it. But without information as to > what _exactly_ you did to make it boot from that disk, and what happened (as > in did what did you see the different boot screens) nobody can tell you what > happened. > > >> all it had was a functioning samba and bash4 with cvsup-without-gui and it >> worked fine for checking and recovering files from the other disks both on >> the machine and through usb. >> > > You don't need cvsup-without-gui anymore. A new utility written in C called > csup is part of the base system since 6.2, I believe. > > >> All that I am seeing is that there is either a problem with the bios >> (which I even reinstalled and that changed nothing in the functioning) >> or something is going on with the OS. >> I must say, it is weird that with FBSD 7.2 things have not been going >> well at all... >> > > I don't want to be rude, but you could have made a mistake somewhere. If > you're futzing around with disks and partitions it is quite easy to screw > something up. Even for people with lots of experience it is sometimes a case > of PEBKAC. :-) > > I understand what you are saying and I don't take it to be rude at all... actually, I don't screw around with the disks and the partitions... I only try to read them to recover any files I may have lost. So far, I have had 100% success on recovering lost data that was important. Up to now, when I had problems with crashes, I just reinstalled everything, the OS, the programs loaded up the files that were recoverd and whoopie... keep on chugging along. I did exactly that on this last great effort - actually, it took a great deal of patience and application to install the 64bit FBSD with flashplugin on the portable and it took extreme patience to wait for all the updates and upgrades and the searching and figuring out just how to configure and set up the i386 on the 2.4ghz machine - and it all worked beautifully; I was really happy that my ordeal was over and now I could get on with it. Not a nice way to wake up in the morning with the box sputtering out ... No, do not "futz around" - I have been doing my updates with portupgrade - compilin the ports is long and terribly boring - that's usually when I can write long e-mails ;-) and now I'm trying portmaster - but it is giving me a bit of heartburn - it seems to stumble over itself - the updates dont work too well. It seems, that when the updates span several releases, portmaster does not know what it's doing - I caught it upgrading to an older version when it aborted; and the dependencies seem to suffer from the same kind of behavious. Make deinstall, make reinstall seems to be the best way... and then sit there and watch the screen expecting to suddenly have the compiling be interrruptted by the configuration scree. And that is often a pain... there are so many options that mostly have no direct meaning for me of use, for that matter. For example, ghostscript - do I really need it? I'm only using 1 printer and that is a postscript Xerox Phaser 8200 that has no driver in the ghostscript files. And the same for gutenberg... and other dependencies - I suppose that some are needed for various implementations of different programs that call them... but that should really be default settings. And who uses the the new ipv6 stuff? >> I now have set up another instance of 7.2 on a different disk on the >> 2.4ghz machine and I already find something strange... after installing >> the minimum configuration, I installed the packages - samba3.3.3, >> cvsup-without-gui, and smartmontools. I tried to run smartctl and cvsup >> but nothing worked. The path variable was correct but the shell just >> would not pick up on it. I had to start the programs from their directories. >> That just doesn't make sense. >> > > That is not a mystery. The default FreeBSD shell, tcsh, doesn't pick up new > programs automatically (for historical reasons) After you install new > programs, you have to give the 'rehash' command for tcsh to pick them > up. See 'rehash' in the tcsh manual page, tcsh(1). > > Roland > Never ran rehash... actually I tried looking it up but really didn't get much information - somebody was using "rehash" in a posting about how to install flashplugin on FBSD 7.1... and it was not clear to me if he meant that one should be issuing the command or if he was alluding to the instructions he was using as "same instructions" interspersed with code snippets. Now back to the updating - deinstall, reinstall, I mean. :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 21:25:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126A31065748 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:25:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@lizardhill.com) Received: from kermit.lizardhill.com (kermit7.lizardhill.com [64.69.41.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8657C8FCC0 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:37:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip68-224-43-222.lv.lv.cox.net ([68.224.43.222] helo=mickey) by kermit.lizardhill.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mbh2c-0001UT-7V for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:36:54 -0700 From: "Don O'Neil" To: Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:37:00 -0700 Message-ID: <4741DB3C2EAB4B86A7ED3AE96E3584DD@mickey> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcocVc6kVUTqTWNuQYio3CpZbe8E3g== Subject: df -k vs. du -s X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:25:44 -0000 My /var partition is showing a different value for a df -k on the file system vs a du -s on the file system: df -k Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 2026030 889544 974404 48% / devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev /dev/ad0s1e 2026030 964 1862984 0% /tmp /dev/ad0s1d 8122126 1997988 5474368 27% /usr /dev/ad0s1f 8122126 5301938 2170418 71% /var du -s /var 993261 /var Any ideas why I would see this? Where is the other 4+G? Do I have a bunch of bad sectors in the file system or is it majorly fragmented? If so, how do I find out what the problem is? The other partitions match between the df and du... I'm running 6.1 if that makes a difference. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 21:45:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8B0106568C for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:45:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623818FC45 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:45:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7DLjBRS077461; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:45:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 69B96BA9D; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:45:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:45:11 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: PJ Message-ID: <20090813214511.GA72324@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> <20090812232810.GA37833@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A841AC2.1050809@videotron.ca> <20090813185726.GA66607@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A847069.5050802@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A847069.5050802@videotron.ca> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:45:13 -0000 --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 03:58:33PM -0400, PJ wrote: > Roland Smith wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ wrote: > > =20 > >> I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give > >> some insight on what is see from this end: > >> > >> Ok, I've had all night to (subliminally) think about all this and > >> actually, I am tending more toward problems in FreeBSD... (this is not > >> an apology or a defense of my lack of knowledge or capacities, just a > >> clarification so you know what kind of a dummy you're dealing with) > >> First, let me explain that everything that we have been talking about - > >> the recovery methods, installation, hardware problems, etc. are all > >> extremely, and I mean extremely, subject to an awful lot of variables. > >> =20 > > > > I don't understand? > > > > I must confess that I find your explanations sometimes a bit vague. You= 're > > sitting in front of the machine with the problems. We (on the mailing l= ist) > > see only what you say. It is difficult for me at least to piece togethe= r what > > exactly happened. > > > > If you are reporting errors, try to be as specific as possible. E.g. do= n't say > > "I updated the machine and it doesn't boot anymore". Start with somethi= ng like: > > "After running freebsd-update with the options blabla" or "after updati= ng the > > machine from the 7.2 CD making the following choices...". And then say = "I got > > stuck in the FreeBSD logo screen", or "I got stuck on a screen showing = the > > lines 'Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader' and 'boot:'". That gives us at > > least a chance to see what has gone wrong. > > > > I must say that I have never used the method of updating from CD. I ten= d to > > update the system sources with csup(8), and then rebuild the kernel and > > applications from source as explained in the Handbook. This hase never = failed > > me yet. > > > > =20 > 1. Reporting the errors is a little difficult because more often than > not, the errors fly by too fast to be fully understandable. Error messages that have happened after the kernel has booted are still sav= ed inside the kernel message buffer. With the 'dmesg' command you can have a g= ood look at them. Additionally, a snapshot of this message buffer is written to /var/run/dmesg.boot after the filesystems are mounted. > 2. I usually and never (since way, way back) do not update from a CD, > except to boot up; I do the rest over ftp from the main source at > freebsd.org. and I use cvsup-without-gui. :-) I got the impression from one of your previous mails that you tried updating =66rom CD. > > Insert a USB thumbdrive and mount it. Copy the files to it, unmount. The > > GENERIC kernel on the CD should have all the necessary drivers for this= to work. > > Assuming that you're logged in as root, and that your USB drive is reco= gnized > > as /dev/da0s1: > > > > mkdir /usbdrive > > mount_msdosfs -m 644 -M 755 -l -o noatime -o sync /dev/da0s1 /usbdrive > > # copy the files you need... > > umount /usbdrive > > =20 > I'll try that; oddly, I was able to use my SanDisk 4gb cruzer before. > Chuck it into usb, mount /dev/cd0 to /mnt and go to it. But now, for > some strange reason it just wont mount. I'm getting messages that it's > not readable - "g_vfs_done input output error" and attempt to query > device size failed, medium may have changed. But the stick is fully > insertable, readable, removable from XP; as it was on FBSD. Weird. You shouldn't be using the /dev/cd0 device. It is a virtual CD and should be read-only.=20 =20 > > I don't understand what you mean by that? What do you mean by "doesn't = act the > > same"?=20 > > =20 > When turning on the computer, hit del and the bios setup comes on almost > immediately on the 3ghz machine. On the 2.4 machine it takes much, much > longer to start up (the monitor is Hitachi superScan Elite 812 on the > 3ghz machine, hitachi CM751 on the 2.4ghz) and when del is pressed the > bios goes through the entire scanniing process and then restarts before > finally going into the bios... and the versions of the bios and the > setup are both identical in nubers but, if I recall correctly, there are > some minor differences in some of the more arcane options that I never > even look at. And in general it always ran a bit sluggish. If the battery keeping the CMOS memory of the 2.4ghz machine has run out, t= he bios won remember its settings and e.g. has to scan for harddisks etc. And settings like boot sequence, memory timing etc. can have a lot of influence on boot time. > > I don't want to be rude, but you could have made a mistake somewhere. If > > you're futzing around with disks and partitions it is quite easy to scr= ew > > something up. Even for people with lots of experience it is sometimes a= case > > of PEBKAC. :-) > > > > =20 > I understand what you are saying and I don't take it to be rude at > all... actually, I don't screw around with the disks and the > partitions... I only try to read them to recover any files I may have > lost. So far, I have had 100% success on recovering lost data that was > important. > Up to now, when I had problems with crashes, I just reinstalled > everything, the OS, the programs loaded up the files that were recoverd > and whoopie... keep on chugging along. I did exactly that on this last > great effort - actually, it took a great deal of patience and > application to install the 64bit FBSD with flashplugin on the portable > and it took extreme patience to wait for all the updates and upgrades > and the searching and figuring out just how to configure and set up the > i386 on the 2.4ghz machine - and it all worked beautifully;=20 This is _exactly_ why you need good backups. So that you don't have to rein= stall everything again if something goes wrong. Blindly reinstalling is a windows solution.=20 For your systems that are running well, get an external harddisk that is at least as big as the one in the machine. On my website I have explained how = to prepare this disk in somewhat greater detail: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/index.html#usb Then use the dump(8) command to make backups of the internal harddisk partitions and write them to the external harddisk. Say that you have mounted the external harddisk at /mnt/backups. = The following command makes a backup of the entire root partition, and compress= es it to save space: dump -0 -a -C 8 -L -u -f - / |gzip -1 >/mnt/backups/root-20090813.gz If you have /usr, /var or /home set up as seperate partitions (which is a g= ood idea), make dumps of those in the same way. Make new dumps regularly, so you don't loose too much data if you have to restore a broken system. You can u= se the restore(8) program to restore individual files or up to the whole nine yards from the backup. > I was really > happy that my ordeal was over and now I could get on with it. Not a nice > way to wake up in the morning with the box sputtering out ... > No, do not "futz around" - I have been doing my updates with portupgrade > - compilin the ports is long and terribly boring - that's usually when I > can write long e-mails ;-) and now I'm trying portmaster - but it is > giving me a bit of heartburn - it seems to stumble over itself - the > updates dont work too well. It seems, that when the updates span several > releases, portmaster does not know what it's doing - I caught it > upgrading to an older version when it aborted; and the dependencies seem > to suffer from the same kind of behavious.=20 If you are switching between major versions of FreeBSD (like from 6.x->7.2), the upgrade tools like portmaster and portupgrade don't always work perfect= ly, for technical reasons that I won't go in to. The only foolproof method in t= hat case is to delete all ports and reinstall them. For normal port updates, even between minor versions of FreeBSD it works ve= ry well, _provided_ that you read /usr/ports/UPDATING and follow any special instructions given there pertaining to ports that you use. Ignore those at your peril. > Make deinstall, make reinstall seems to be the best way... and then sit > there and watch the screen expecting to suddenly have the compiling be > interrruptted by the configuration scree. And that is often a pain... the= re > are so many options that mostly have no direct meaning for me of use, for > that matter. For example, ghostscript - do I really need it? I'm only usi= ng > 1 printer and that is a postscript Xerox Phaser 8200 that has no driver in > the ghostscript files. Being a postscript printer it doesn't need a ghostscript driver... But ghostscript is required by CUPS (the cups-base port, to be precise). Among other things to convert PDF to postscript. Note that you can configure cups-base not to use ghostscript. > And the same for gutenberg... and other > dependencies - I suppose that some are needed for various > implementations of different programs that call them... but that should > really be default settings. And who uses the the new ipv6 stuff? Nobody is forcing you to change them. You can use portmaster's -G option to prevent 'make config' from running. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqEiWcACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXMYQCfcNkCOIQ6lpPGlpecpYFnATQL 6DYAn0uu74Znba0IIa5TNJoL70YDgdrY =3Lw5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 21:47:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D801D10656A7 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:47:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47498FC4F for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:47:23 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KOC00C254IYOH60@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:47:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A8489ED.6040802@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:47:25 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: this is csup ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:47:23 -0000 Please, please reassure me that I do come from Mars: What am I missing in the following? (direct quote from http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/freebsd_uptodate.html : Then copy this script to /usr/local/sbin/ and run it when you want to update your ports, source & docs. #!/bin/sh # # Update source, docs and ports LOCAL_DIR="$(pwd)" cd /usr/src make update cd /usr/ports make fetchindex echo "Now run:" echo "# /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u " echo "# /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF " cd $LOCAL_DIR From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 21:57:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C4010656A5 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:57:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE72D8FC4B for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:57:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0847E853; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:57:22 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:57:20 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4741DB3C2EAB4B86A7ED3AE96E3584DD@mickey> In-Reply-To: <4741DB3C2EAB4B86A7ED3AE96E3584DD@mickey> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908131357.20685.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Don O'Neil Subject: Re: df -k vs. du -s X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:57:23 -0000 On Thursday 13 August 2009 12:37:00 Don O'Neil wrote: > My /var partition is showing a different value for a df -k on the file > system vs a du -s on the file system: FAQ. Search = good(tm). http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#DU-VS-DF -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 22:04:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66784106568E for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3698FC57 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:04:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n7DM1RUI038007; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:01:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n7DM1RiC038006; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:01:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:01:27 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: "Don O'Neil" Message-ID: <20090813220127.GA37971@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4741DB3C2EAB4B86A7ED3AE96E3584DD@mickey> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4741DB3C2EAB4B86A7ED3AE96E3584DD@mickey> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: df -k vs. du -s X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:04:23 -0000 On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 01:37:00PM -0700, Don O'Neil wrote: > My /var partition is showing a different value for a df -k on the file > system vs a du -s on the file system: > > df -k > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad0s1a 2026030 889544 974404 48% / > devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev > /dev/ad0s1e 2026030 964 1862984 0% /tmp > /dev/ad0s1d 8122126 1997988 5474368 27% /usr > /dev/ad0s1f 8122126 5301938 2170418 71% /var > > du -s /var > 993261 /var > > Any ideas why I would see this? Where is the other 4+G? Do I have a bunch of > bad sectors in the file system or is it majorly fragmented? If so, how do I > find out what the problem is? > > The other partitions match between the df and du... I'm running 6.1 if that > makes a difference. Makes no difference. This has been answered so many times on this list that people may not respond at all. It should easily be found by searching the archive and I think there is a FAQ on the FreeBSD web site about it. So, have fun searching. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 22:07:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1465410656AD for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:07:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA30C8FC3A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E333CE37; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:07:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7DM73mE001920; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:07:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:07:03 +0200 From: Polytropon To: PJ Message-Id: <20090814000703.bb91993d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4A8489ED.6040802@videotron.ca> References: <4A8489ED.6040802@videotron.ca> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is csup ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:07:06 -0000 On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:47:25 -0400, PJ wrote: > Please, please reassure me that I do come from Mars: > > What am I missing in the following? (direct quote from > http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/freebsd_uptodate.html : > > Then copy this script to /usr/local/sbin/ and run it when you want to > update your ports, source & docs. > #!/bin/sh > # > # Update source, docs and ports > > LOCAL_DIR="$(pwd)" > > cd /usr/src > make update > cd /usr/ports > make fetchindex Yes, the "make update" command either employs csup or cvsup (from ports, e. g. cvsup-without-gui). Which one is used is controlled by the setting in /etc/make.conf, for example: SUP_UPDATE= yes SUP= /usr/bin/csup SUPFLAGS= -g -L 2 SUPHOST= cvsup.freebsd.org SUPFILE= /etc/sup/stable.sup PORTSSUPFILE= /etc/sup/ports.sup Version control is done by the sup control files. If you do "make update" in /usr/src, I think the /usr/ports subtree will get updated, too. If not, don't forget to # cd /usr/ports # make update in order to update the ports. Note that there are other tools that can do that, too, e. g. portsnap. > echo "Now run:" > echo "# /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u " > echo "# /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF " This is only important if you use tools like portupgrade. Erm, what was the initial question? -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 22:11:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACE6106568D for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:11:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CA98FC43 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:11:18 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KOC00L1M5MTFF60@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:11:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A848F88.7040301@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:11:20 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Roland Smith References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> <20090812232810.GA37833@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A841AC2.1050809@videotron.ca> <20090813185726.GA66607@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A847069.5050802@videotron.ca> <20090813214511.GA72324@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-reply-to: <20090813214511.GA72324@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:11:19 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 03:58:33PM -0400, PJ wrote: > >> Roland Smith wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give >>>> some insight on what is see from this end: >>>> >>>> Ok, I've had all night to (subliminally) think about all this and >>>> actually, I am tending more toward problems in FreeBSD... (this is not >>>> an apology or a defense of my lack of knowledge or capacities, just a >>>> clarification so you know what kind of a dummy you're dealing with) >>>> First, let me explain that everything that we have been talking about - >>>> the recovery methods, installation, hardware problems, etc. are all >>>> extremely, and I mean extremely, subject to an awful lot of variables. >>>> >>>> >>> I don't understand? >>> >>> I must confess that I find your explanations sometimes a bit vague. You're >>> sitting in front of the machine with the problems. We (on the mailing list) >>> see only what you say. It is difficult for me at least to piece together what >>> exactly happened. >>> >>> If you are reporting errors, try to be as specific as possible. E.g. don't say >>> "I updated the machine and it doesn't boot anymore". Start with something like: >>> "After running freebsd-update with the options blabla" or "after updating the >>> machine from the 7.2 CD making the following choices...". And then say "I got >>> stuck in the FreeBSD logo screen", or "I got stuck on a screen showing the >>> lines 'Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader' and 'boot:'". That gives us at >>> least a chance to see what has gone wrong. >>> >>> I must say that I have never used the method of updating from CD. I tend to >>> update the system sources with csup(8), and then rebuild the kernel and >>> applications from source as explained in the Handbook. This hase never failed >>> me yet. >>> >>> >>> >> 1. Reporting the errors is a little difficult because more often than >> not, the errors fly by too fast to be fully understandable. >> > > Error messages that have happened after the kernel has booted are still saved > inside the kernel message buffer. With the 'dmesg' command you can have a good > look at them. > > Additionally, a snapshot of this message buffer is written to > /var/run/dmesg.boot after the filesystems are mounted. > I'll note that and try to get to them. > >> 2. I usually and never (since way, way back) do not update from a CD, >> except to boot up; I do the rest over ftp from the main source at >> freebsd.org. and I use cvsup-without-gui. :-) >> > > I got the impression from one of your previous mails that you tried updating > from CD. > > You have to start somewhere... ;-) As I recall it, I was trying to see what was to be found on the disk and I did not want to change or commit before getting that information... but, likeOBSD, I think it decided to do some writing to the disk - and I even got out of there fast by turning off the computer thinking that would abort things... stopping is sometimes rather slow. :-[ >>> Insert a USB thumbdrive and mount it. Copy the files to it, unmount. The >>> GENERIC kernel on the CD should have all the necessary drivers for this to work. >>> Assuming that you're logged in as root, and that your USB drive is recognized >>> as /dev/da0s1: >>> >>> mkdir /usbdrive >>> mount_msdosfs -m 644 -M 755 -l -o noatime -o sync /dev/da0s1 /usbdrive >>> # copy the files you need... >>> umount /usbdrive >>> >>> >> I'll try that; oddly, I was able to use my SanDisk 4gb cruzer before. >> Chuck it into usb, mount /dev/cd0 to /mnt and go to it. But now, for >> some strange reason it just wont mount. I'm getting messages that it's >> not readable - "g_vfs_done input output error" and attempt to query >> device size failed, medium may have changed. But the stick is fully >> insertable, readable, removable from XP; as it was on FBSD. Weird. >> > > You shouldn't be using the /dev/cd0 device. It is a virtual CD and should be > read-only. > But that is what is shown when the memory stick is inserted. And I did try da0 (if I recall correctly). Ok, I just did your little mount suggestion above, and glory be, Massah, it shore did work. :-) I really don't know how I ever got this far... > > >>> I don't understand what you mean by that? What do you mean by "doesn't act the >>> same"? >>> >>> >> When turning on the computer, hit del and the bios setup comes on almost >> immediately on the 3ghz machine. On the 2.4 machine it takes much, much >> longer to start up (the monitor is Hitachi superScan Elite 812 on the >> 3ghz machine, hitachi CM751 on the 2.4ghz) and when del is pressed the >> bios goes through the entire scanniing process and then restarts before >> finally going into the bios... and the versions of the bios and the >> setup are both identical in nubers but, if I recall correctly, there are >> some minor differences in some of the more arcane options that I never >> even look at. And in general it always ran a bit sluggish. >> > > If the battery keeping the CMOS memory of the 2.4ghz machine has run out, the > bios won remember its settings and e.g. has to scan for harddisks etc. > > And settings like boot sequence, memory timing etc. can have a lot of > influence on boot time. > Now that's an unexplored corner of the PC... I'll replace it and let's see... I did have that problem many, many years ago - I don't recall what exatly it was, but I think the computer had kind of gone "dead" had to replace the battery and it worked. Can't even remember how I found the problem or if someone pointed me to it. > >>> I don't want to be rude, but you could have made a mistake somewhere. If >>> you're futzing around with disks and partitions it is quite easy to screw >>> something up. Even for people with lots of experience it is sometimes a case >>> of PEBKAC. :-) >>> >>> >>> >> I understand what you are saying and I don't take it to be rude at >> all... actually, I don't screw around with the disks and the >> partitions... I only try to read them to recover any files I may have >> lost. So far, I have had 100% success on recovering lost data that was >> important. >> Up to now, when I had problems with crashes, I just reinstalled >> everything, the OS, the programs loaded up the files that were recoverd >> and whoopie... keep on chugging along. I did exactly that on this last >> great effort - actually, it took a great deal of patience and >> application to install the 64bit FBSD with flashplugin on the portable >> and it took extreme patience to wait for all the updates and upgrades >> and the searching and figuring out just how to configure and set up the >> i386 on the 2.4ghz machine - and it all worked beautifully; >> > > This is _exactly_ why you need good backups. So that you don't have to reinstall > everything again if something goes wrong. Blindly reinstalling is a windows > solution. > True enough. If I have a Windows problem - it's crash & trash - reinstall & have a ball. > For your systems that are running well, get an external harddisk that is at > least as big as the one in the machine. On my website I have explained how to > prepare this disk in somewhat greater detail: > http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/index.html#usb > > Then use the dump(8) command to make > backups of the internal harddisk partitions and write them to the external > harddisk. Say that you have mounted the external harddisk at /mnt/backups. The > following command makes a backup of the entire root partition, and compresses > it to save space: > > dump -0 -a -C 8 -L -u -f - / |gzip -1 >/mnt/backups/root-20090813.gz > > If you have /usr, /var or /home set up as seperate partitions (which is a good > idea), make dumps of those in the same way. Make new dumps regularly, so you > don't loose too much data if you have to restore a broken system. You can use > the restore(8) program to restore individual files or up to the whole nine > yards from the backup. > > >> I was really >> happy that my ordeal was over and now I could get on with it. Not a nice >> way to wake up in the morning with the box sputtering out ... >> No, do not "futz around" - I have been doing my updates with portupgrade >> - compilin the ports is long and terribly boring - that's usually when I >> can write long e-mails ;-) and now I'm trying portmaster - but it is >> giving me a bit of heartburn - it seems to stumble over itself - the >> updates dont work too well. It seems, that when the updates span several >> releases, portmaster does not know what it's doing - I caught it >> upgrading to an older version when it aborted; and the dependencies seem >> to suffer from the same kind of behavious. >> > > If you are switching between major versions of FreeBSD (like from 6.x->7.2), > the upgrade tools like portmaster and portupgrade don't always work perfectly, > for technical reasons that I won't go in to. The only foolproof method in that > case is to delete all ports and reinstall them. > > For normal port updates, even between minor versions of FreeBSD it works very > well, _provided_ that you read /usr/ports/UPDATING and follow any special > instructions given there pertaining to ports that you use. Ignore those at > your peril. > > >> Make deinstall, make reinstall seems to be the best way... and then sit >> there and watch the screen expecting to suddenly have the compiling be >> interrruptted by the configuration scree. And that is often a pain... there >> are so many options that mostly have no direct meaning for me of use, for >> that matter. For example, ghostscript - do I really need it? I'm only using >> 1 printer and that is a postscript Xerox Phaser 8200 that has no driver in >> the ghostscript files. >> > > Being a postscript printer it doesn't need a ghostscript driver... But > ghostscript is required by CUPS (the cups-base port, to be precise). Among > other things to convert PDF to postscript. Note that you can configure > cups-base not to use ghostscript. > > >> And the same for gutenberg... and other >> dependencies - I suppose that some are needed for various >> implementations of different programs that call them... but that should >> really be default settings. And who uses the the new ipv6 stuff? >> > > Nobody is forcing you to change them. You can use portmaster's -G option to > prevent 'make config' from running. > But I use the config as there are some tweaks that are needed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 22:20:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBE51065690 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:20:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F0A8FC15 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:20:15 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KOC00JS561QJR10@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A8491A1.30301@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:20:17 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Polytropon References: <4A8489ED.6040802@videotron.ca> <20090814000703.bb91993d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-reply-to: <20090814000703.bb91993d.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is csup ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:20:15 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:47:25 -0400, PJ wrote: >> Please, please reassure me that I do come from Mars: >> >> What am I missing in the following? (direct quote from >> http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/freebsd_uptodate.html : >> >> Then copy this script to /usr/local/sbin/ and run it when you want to >> update your ports, source & docs. >> #!/bin/sh >> # >> # Update source, docs and ports >> >> LOCAL_DIR="$(pwd)" >> >> cd /usr/src >> make update >> cd /usr/ports >> make fetchindex > > Yes, the "make update" command either employs csup or cvsup (from ports, > e. g. cvsup-without-gui). Which one is used is controlled by the > setting in /etc/make.conf, for example: > > SUP_UPDATE= yes > SUP= /usr/bin/csup > SUPFLAGS= -g -L 2 > SUPHOST= cvsup.freebsd.org > SUPFILE= /etc/sup/stable.sup > PORTSSUPFILE= /etc/sup/ports.sup > > Version control is done by the sup control files. > > If you do "make update" in /usr/src, I think the /usr/ports subtree > will get updated, too. If not, don't forget to > > # cd /usr/ports > # make update > > in order to update the ports. > > Note that there are other tools that can do that, too, e. g. portsnap. > > > >> echo "Now run:" >> echo "# /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u " >> echo "# /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF " > > This is only important if you use tools like portupgrade. > > > > Erm, what was the initial question? Well, I'm a bit confused about this "script" - something doesn't make sense - what are you supposed to call the script? And it doesn't work as written: # update-ports #(the name I gave the script - maybe I didn't understand something about how to write the script - the instructions clearly said copy the script) make: don't know how to make update. Stop /usr/ports/INDEX-7.bz2 100% of 1283 kB 581 kBps Now run: /usr/local/sbin/update-ports: echo# /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u : not found /usr/local/sbin/update-ports: echo /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF : not found I guess that then I have to rund them manually... something ain't right, right? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 22:22:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A551A10656B1 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:22:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2808FC3D for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:22:21 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KOC00C0D658OH90@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:22:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A84921F.8000103@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:22:23 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Roland Smith References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> <20090812232810.GA37833@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A841AC2.1050809@videotron.ca> <20090813185726.GA66607@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A847069.5050802@videotron.ca> <20090813214511.GA72324@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-reply-to: <20090813214511.GA72324@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:22:21 -0000 > > For your systems that are running well, get an external harddisk that is at > least as big as the one in the machine. On my website I have explained how to > prepare this disk in somewhat greater detail: > http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/index.html#usb > > Then use the dump(8) command to make > backups of the internal harddisk partitions and write them to the external > harddisk. Say that you have mounted the external harddisk at /mnt/backups. The > following command makes a backup of the entire root partition, and compresses > it to save space: > > dump -0 -a -C 8 -L -u -f - / |gzip -1 >/mnt/backups/root-20090813.gz > How about 7zip instead of gzip? does better compression, from what I learned.... ??? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 22:39:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08966106564A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:39:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD74B8FC41 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8031E42D; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:39:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7DMd2fp002046; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:39:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:39:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: PJ Message-Id: <20090814003902.3835022b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4A8491A1.30301@videotron.ca> References: <4A8489ED.6040802@videotron.ca> <20090814000703.bb91993d.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A8491A1.30301@videotron.ca> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is csup ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:39:05 -0000 On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:20:17 -0400, PJ wrote: > Well, I'm a bit confused about this "script" - something doesn't make > sense - what are you supposed to call the script? The script is intended to automate updating a bit. It still relies on the presence of csup or cvsup AND its correct configuration. > And it doesn't work as > written: Oh yes, it does - under specific circumstances. :-) > # update-ports #(the name I gave the script - maybe I didn't > understand something about how to write the script - the instructions > clearly said copy the script) > make: don't know how to make update. Stop Try it manually, just to be sure: # cd /usr/ports # make update Or: # cd /usr/src # make update Both should work. > /usr/ports/INDEX-7.bz2 100% of 1283 kB 581 kBps > Now run: > /usr/local/sbin/update-ports: echo# /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u : not found > /usr/local/sbin/update-ports: echo /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF : not found > > I guess that then I have to rund them manually... something ain't right, > right? Yes, you CAN run them - but it depends on the following: Do you have portinstall / portupgrade installed, and do you use it? Then it's always wise to run pkgdb. The program portsdb belongs to the same port. If these commands fail, you don't have portupgrade installed. Before you use the script, you should try to use its steps manually first, just to make sure they work. In an abbreviated form, update can go like this: #!/bin/sh cd /usr/ports make fetch-index make update pkgdb -uvF portsdb -u cd /usr/src make update Again, it's important that /etc/make.conf and the control files for the update program - csup or cvsup - are correct. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 17:41:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A3E1065674 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:41:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7FA8FC4F for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:41:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7DHexqu001680; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:40:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n7DHewpf001679; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:40:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:40:57 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: PJ Message-ID: <20090813174057.GA1517@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , PJ , Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon , Ian Smith , wmoran@potentialtech.com References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> <20090812232810.GA37833@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A841AC2.1050809@videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A841AC2.1050809@videotron.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_12 autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:41:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:40:09 +0000 Cc: Roland Smith , Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, wmoran@potentialtech.com, Ian Smith Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:41:09 -0000 Hi PJ, On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ typed: > I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give > some insight on what is see from this end: You probably won't get much helpfull response. When troubleshooting, it's allways best to try to break down the problem in tiny bits and solve them one by one, asking specific questions when you get stuck. > to be in a position to do what is required. For one thing, I do not know > how I can save testing output to an external file when I am working on a > temporary shell on the problem machine. Perhaps you could indicate what > I should be doing or where to look for information. What kind of "temporary shell"? You mean the fixit console or livecd? You can allways redirect the output to some file in /tmp for example and then scp it to another computer. Or mount_nfs or even mount_smbfs a windows share and save the output there. > And in checking the disks with fdisk, fsck, and even running that weird > regenerate progam... I wasn't able to come up with anything > significant... that is, the configuration of the disks seemed to be ok, > the boot sector was ok as it was able to boot but the when the system > was being mounted something went wrong... and looking back, I vaguely > recall something about a "soft update" or something like that which > seems to indicate some stumbling block in the software and not hardware. soft updates inconsistencies perhaps? They can be caused by faulty hardware. Or by power failure. What did you do about them? In such a situation the system will drop you into single user mode where you can do an fsck. > All that I am seeing is that there is either a problem with the bios > (which I even reinstalled and that changed nothing in the functioning) > or something is going on with the OS. How exactly did you see this? And you reinstalled the BIOS ??? > I now have set up another instance of 7.2 on a different disk on the > 2.4ghz machine and I already find something strange... after installing > the minimum configuration, I installed the packages - samba3.3.3, > cvsup-without-gui, and smartmontools. I tried to run smartctl and cvsup > but nothing worked. The path variable was correct but the shell just > would not pick up on it. I had to start the programs from their directories. > That just doesn't make sense. It does if your shell is csh (the default shell for root). You must issue the "rehash" command to re-read everything in your path after installing new software. Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 19:12:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0DF106564A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af.gourmet@videotron.ca) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 606978FC4A for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:12:26 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received: from [192.168.0.51] ([96.21.103.185]) by VL-MO-MR004.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0KOB00BJWXCPVWE0@VL-MO-MR004.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4A84659B.9000400@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:12:27 -0400 From: PJ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) To: Ruben de Groot , PJ , Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon , Ian Smith , wmoran@potentialtech.com References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> <20090812232810.GA37833@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A841AC2.1050809@videotron.ca> <20090813174057.GA1517@ei.bzerk.org> In-reply-to: <20090813174057.GA1517@ei.bzerk.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:40:25 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:12:26 -0000 Ruben de Groot wrote: > Hi PJ, > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ typed: > >> I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give >> some insight on what is see from this end: >> > > You probably won't get much helpfull response. When troubleshooting, it's > allways best to try to break down the problem in tiny bits and solve them > one by one, asking specific questions when you get stuck. > > > > >> to be in a position to do what is required. For one thing, I do not know >> how I can save testing output to an external file when I am working on a >> temporary shell on the problem machine. Perhaps you could indicate what >> I should be doing or where to look for information. >> > > What kind of "temporary shell"? You mean the fixit console or livecd? You can > allways redirect the output to some file in /tmp for example and then scp > it to another computer. Or mount_nfs or even mount_smbfs a windows share and > save the output there. > > >> And in checking the disks with fdisk, fsck, and even running that weird >> regenerate progam... I wasn't able to come up with anything >> significant... that is, the configuration of the disks seemed to be ok, >> the boot sector was ok as it was able to boot but the when the system >> was being mounted something went wrong... and looking back, I vaguely >> recall something about a "soft update" or something like that which >> seems to indicate some stumbling block in the software and not hardware. >> > > soft updates inconsistencies perhaps? They can be caused by faulty hardware. > Or by power failure. What did you do about them? In such a situation the > system will drop you into single user mode where you can do an fsck. > > >> All that I am seeing is that there is either a problem with the bios >> (which I even reinstalled and that changed nothing in the functioning) >> or something is going on with the OS. >> > > How exactly did you see this? And you reinstalled the BIOS ??? > > >> I now have set up another instance of 7.2 on a different disk on the >> 2.4ghz machine and I already find something strange... after installing >> the minimum configuration, I installed the packages - samba3.3.3, >> cvsup-without-gui, and smartmontools. I tried to run smartctl and cvsup >> but nothing worked. The path variable was correct but the shell just >> would not pick up on it. I had to start the programs from their directories. >> That just doesn't make sense. >> > > It does if your shell is csh (the default shell for root). You must issue > the "rehash" command to re-read everything in your path after installing new > software. > > Ruben > Thanks Ruben, Frankly, I don't know an;ymore what I'm doing nor what is going on... it used to be so easy to set up FBSD even if it took a lot of time to compile... but it seems to be getting less and less intuitive and user friendly. How can I break thinkgs up into little bits and pieces without just smashing the whole show to bits and pieces ;-) There are so many problems, I have not idea where to begin. Oh, yes, csh ? I always set up bash and it never gave me such problems. Did the same just now and again, no problems with the shell. Right now I'm just fixing up a new set up of 7.2 on another disk and we'll see what that does. Then I will re-setup the files I had recoverd, see if they work and then do a last and final install of everything and see if that works. And if there is a problem then, then I will know for sure that it is not a hardware problem. In using computers, in general, over the past 20 plus years I have only had maybe 6 crashes... mostly Winbloz and about 3 with FBSD - and only 1 was because of defective hardware (a disk)... the rest was power outs and 1 erroneous shutdown... not bad ... and I never lost irreplaceable files. :-) Took some time to recover them, but recover did as recover should. Oh, well, before I give it all up, I'm giving it one final shot. PJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 22:40:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA7A10656BC for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:40:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F418FC60 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:40:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931541E49C; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:40:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7DMeVap002053; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:40:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:40:31 +0200 From: Polytropon To: PJ Message-Id: <20090814004031.4dcde778.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4A84921F.8000103@videotron.ca> References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> <20090812232810.GA37833@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A841AC2.1050809@videotron.ca> <20090813185726.GA66607@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A847069.5050802@videotron.ca> <20090813214511.GA72324@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A84921F.8000103@videotron.ca> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Roland Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:40:33 -0000 On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:22:23 -0400, PJ wrote: > How about 7zip instead of gzip? does better compression, from what I > learned.... ??? Possible, but gzip is part of the OS, while 7zip needs to be installed manually. On a live system CD (FreeBSD, FreeSBIE) is is usually not present. Always keep in mind that maintenance is often done in a minimalist environment. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 22:42:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4407910656D6 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:42:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mak@kolybabi.com) Received: from mail.nepharia.org (mail.nepharia.org [209.44.104.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2728FC45 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from brisbane.nepharia.org (wnpgmb0804w-ad03-80-117.dynamic.mts.net [74.216.80.117]) by mail.nepharia.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A6BE43F0460 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:25:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: by brisbane.nepharia.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1000 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) mak@kolybabi.com; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:25:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:25:04 -0500 From: Mak Kolybabi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090813222501.GB29899@brisbane.nepharia.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Subject: Re: Partions per slice limitation removed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:42:10 -0000 On 2009-08-13 13:41, Doug Poland wrote: > I thought I recalled reading, within the last few months, that there is no > longer a 8 partition/slice limitation in FreeBSD. I've been googling and > reading man pages to verify that but cannot find any documentation to support > it. Was I dreaming? (Forgot to send this reply to the list the first time, not just the OP.) No, you were not dreaming. When in doubt, check the source. From head/sbin/bsdlabel/bsdlabel.c [1]: "Allow bsdlabel to operate on labels that have at most 26 partitions by virtue of there not being any (lower-case) letters avaliable for more partitions." [1] http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=174501 -- Matthew Anthony Kolybabi (Mak) () ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org | Against proprietary extensions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 23:19:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352D2106568C for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f227.google.com (mail-gx0-f227.google.com [209.85.217.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02798FC3D for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk27 with SMTP id 27so1409371gxk.12 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:19:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UHZI91tOWEN96xP4PBOvMbsFfUnO1AjZTbJ/HxXN4Ro=; b=bVRrS0GA12jY3a/9aSY5P59wgYma5kwkI/lovGEDirzCvdGocCm04YHNR72nxigqSq i4GlNz5B6f5al59tzsrRiY5MyjOnwYbD5IqZHZskyLxLppp63lw2oYUK1fLcxZyhD1w5 dhtJnkisWMzOYzboCM2SijDCY9iNzJ+PmdRB8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DbshylsSAKhCRkpigQKlj0+qI/NmOsWA3hE0KbaRdnmU5tl4i/pLA6FQvW53yhsQIu JYRBdRbBgD+RD8kxRLEq2XjvExjDfv80v2JbTSxaNFddwoBxovgKywzfv/7qhqNwmEhx eP7QHU7wK1kek0/L4uxNhk8Jdmw/eS5zy2U7Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.131.1 with SMTP id e1mr1893808ybd.294.1250205583972; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:19:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A84659B.9000400@videotron.ca> References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> <20090812232810.GA37833@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A841AC2.1050809@videotron.ca> <20090813174057.GA1517@ei.bzerk.org> <4A84659B.9000400@videotron.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:19:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: PJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:19:45 -0000 > Right now I'm just fixing up a new set up of 7.2 on another disk and > we'll see what that does. Then I will re-setup the files I had recoverd, > see if they work and then do a last and final install of everything and > see if that works. And if there is a problem then, then I will know for > sure that it is not a hardware problem. In using computers, in general, > over the past 20 plus years I have only had maybe 6 crashes... mostly > Winbloz and about 3 with FBSD - and only 1 was because of defective > hardware (a disk)... the rest was power outs and 1 erroneous shutdown... > not bad ... and I never lost irreplaceable files. :-) =A0 Took some time > to recover them, but recover did as recover should. > Oh, well, before I give it all up, I'm giving it one final shot. > PJ If I may . . . (again ;-), why is it not a hardware issue? You're a self-proclaimed, long-time fBSD user experiencing unforeseen circumstances and the folks attempting to help aren't noobs. So, it surely can't be a user/software issue ;-) . . . It sounds like you can get the files that you need/want and then go get some new stuff. It's not expensive anymore and frankly, it seems that this thread is doomed. I apologize, but I don't have time to read the lengthy explanations/rants/responses, but I think a new chapter in PJ's life is developing and I think that you/he/she should turn the page (I know, you're trying . . .). P.S. -- trim responses so we can get to the good stuff! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 13 23:43:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF23A106568E for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55C668FC15 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 61908 invoked by uid 89); 13 Aug 2009 23:43:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 13 Aug 2009 23:43:45 -0000 Message-ID: <4A84A535.4040607@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:43:49 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PJ References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> <20090812232810.GA37833@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A841AC2.1050809@videotron.ca> <20090813174057.GA1517@ei.bzerk.org> <4A84659B.9000400@videotron.ca> In-Reply-To: <4A84659B.9000400@videotron.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000809020909050407000707" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:43:45 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000809020909050407000707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PJ wrote: > Ruben de Groot wrote: >> Hi PJ, >> >> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ typed: >> >>> I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give >>> some insight on what is see from this end: >>> >> You probably won't get much helpfull response. When troubleshooting, it's >> allways best to try to break down the problem in tiny bits and solve them >> one by one, asking specific questions when you get stuck. >> >> >> >> >>> to be in a position to do what is required. For one thing, I do not know >>> how I can save testing output to an external file when I am working on a >>> temporary shell on the problem machine. Perhaps you could indicate what >>> I should be doing or where to look for information. >>> >> What kind of "temporary shell"? You mean the fixit console or livecd? You can >> allways redirect the output to some file in /tmp for example and then scp >> it to another computer. Or mount_nfs or even mount_smbfs a windows share and >> save the output there. >> >> >>> And in checking the disks with fdisk, fsck, and even running that weird >>> regenerate progam... I wasn't able to come up with anything >>> significant... that is, the configuration of the disks seemed to be ok, >>> the boot sector was ok as it was able to boot but the when the system >>> was being mounted something went wrong... and looking back, I vaguely >>> recall something about a "soft update" or something like that which >>> seems to indicate some stumbling block in the software and not hardware. >>> >> soft updates inconsistencies perhaps? They can be caused by faulty hardware. >> Or by power failure. What did you do about them? In such a situation the >> system will drop you into single user mode where you can do an fsck. >> >> >>> All that I am seeing is that there is either a problem with the bios >>> (which I even reinstalled and that changed nothing in the functioning) >>> or something is going on with the OS. >>> >> How exactly did you see this? And you reinstalled the BIOS ??? >> >> >>> I now have set up another instance of 7.2 on a different disk on the >>> 2.4ghz machine and I already find something strange... after installing >>> the minimum configuration, I installed the packages - samba3.3.3, >>> cvsup-without-gui, and smartmontools. I tried to run smartctl and cvsup >>> but nothing worked. The path variable was correct but the shell just >>> would not pick up on it. I had to start the programs from their directories. >>> That just doesn't make sense. >>> >> It does if your shell is csh (the default shell for root). You must issue >> the "rehash" command to re-read everything in your path after installing new >> software. >> >> Ruben >> > Thanks Ruben, > Frankly, I don't know an;ymore what I'm doing nor what is going on... it > used to be so easy to set up FBSD even if it took a lot of time to > compile... but it seems to be getting less and less intuitive and user > friendly. Perhaps you are becoming a bit anxious due to frustration. The intuition part of FreeBSD hasn't changed. For those who still like to do things the 'old' way, it still works the same way it always has. For those who like the new/updated tools, they work too. > How can I break thinkgs up into little bits and pieces without just > smashing the whole show to bits and pieces ;-) > There are so many problems, I have not idea where to begin. Pen and paper. Write down the big problem, even if it's simply "it doesn't work". >From there, have a coffee, have a smoke, or do what you like to do in order to clear your mind to the point where you are facing the situation from scratch; in a calm, non-biased manner. Then focus on the first issue that crops up...write it down. If this initial problem is a show-stopper, start there. If it is not, continue despite the problems, and jot down the next roadblock. When I'm faced with a seemingly insurmountable aggregated bunch of problems, I prefer to "halve" the issue until I can recognize where the issue(s) are, and at the same time, I usually make notes on what works. > Right now I'm just fixing up a new set up of 7.2 on another disk and > we'll see what that does. ...now stop, and take a little break and reflect on what the strategy should be for the next step. > Then I will re-setup the files I had recoverd, > see if they work ...now take another little break, and reflect again. Reflect on what you have done, and about what you are about to do. This brainstorming may help develop different tactics. > and then do a last and final install of everything and > see if that works. ...break. > And if there is a problem then, then I will know for > sure that it is not a hardware problem. You can *never* know for *sure* that hardware isn't an issue. Things such as minor electrical damage (for instance) can be exceptionally intermittent, slowly progressive, extremely hard to troubleshoot, and may disappear for months before it rears it's head again. Another hard-to-troubleshoot aspect of hardware are the edge cases. I've run into issues in the past where I knew there was a problem, but it took days to solve (this is an ISP environment, so when there is a critical emergency, hardware is swapped, and then tested in the lab). We ran into an issue where a box would sometimes freeze, and sometimes reboot. The rest of the time it ran fine, even under extreme loads. It turned out to be the motherboard... some of the protective coating had 'flaked off' between the CPU and the RAM. Only under extreme duress and very specific memory access were we able to identify where the problem was. No... I don't normally troubleshoot hardware that way (instead, it's just replaced), but I was personally interested to find out why I could not retrigger the problem. > In using computers, in general, > over the past 20 plus years I have only had maybe 6 crashes... mostly > Winbloz ...Windows... > and about 3 with FBSD - and only 1 was because of defective > hardware (a disk)... I've done this for ~15 years, and have seen at least 50 very serious crashes. Almost all of them I have found and fixed the problem myself, or have mentored those who want/need to learn how to fix the problem. The relative scale perhaps differ, however, my colleagues/staff are all trained on two very simple, and very important pretences: - do not panic - do not rush Either one leads to frustration, and nearly always has the effect of making the problem worse. Calmly halve the problem until you find out what it is. Even when there are 10k clients waiting for a fix, it's better to get it done right, instead of making it worse. > the rest was power outs and 1 erroneous shutdown... > not bad ... and I never lost irreplaceable files. :-) Took some time > to recover them, but recover did as recover should. ...backup...always. Even if you don't think you need it, back it up anyway. > Oh, well, before I give it all up, I'm giving it one final shot. This last sentence makes me believe that you are coming at this with a mindset of "fsck it... if it don't work this time, that's it", which I have found will set your mind up for failure, as that's what you've trained your brain to expect. After your brain knows _I'll quit after this_, you will work as diligently as possible to ensure that it happens. Take a break... there have been many, many well-written attempts to help. All of those who have helped already will still be here no matter what! 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Message-ID: <42459.19647.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Je56mjwVM1k.v1wlkFa71YQiMUF0m3SX_X3w83GZrToiQ6fhf036YsXCBBV8zYV2de08zQek9XbUFN9mmjv2YXbnXqIgjh2m4B3f6Oh9V.BiasL7hBgbhfXK7UsfpwhC4fU9UzeX.156HuAiUQ.LaPtzUKsDsmVrg_eqxgGITPDAKn06k08gGWzi8lINguisYyejEn9Lm7jYQ9oBwU097hqdC9hNNzznjFkBQLfkeK5ePgcCgGUaCAcMJ0Pt3F.YAZrQgmrk7H91rJ5p1DPy5Pqxa6btgGQfOucKbPhkjCO.eW6GzdeGOQcR5EssKn_tSS77RnPctWUyXhsry_i8Rj.7hLAtNt32vZGMukm7bVJX0iOdzb94mWF0sFFCzt2g7Lo- Received: from [201.231.61.15] by web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:51:15 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:51:15 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Xorg slow on Toshiba A305 SP6926A X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:51:17 -0000 Hi, I installed 7.2 amd64 on a Toshiba Satellite A305 SP6926A and it looks = like Xorg is too slow on this machine. 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Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonardorame.blog= spot.com=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 01:27:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E51E106568F for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:27:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bcook@poughkeepsieschools.org) Received: from a.outbound.bsdwebsolutions.com (a.outbound.bsdwebsolutions.com [64.72.68.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457438FC55 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:27:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.bsdwebsolutions.com ([64.72.68.15]) by a.outbound.bsdwebsolutions.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (BSD Web Solutions, Inc.) (envelope-from ) id 1MblZJ-000K6o-7Z; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:26:57 -0400 Received: from [207.241.248.11] (port=56789 helo=mail.poughkeepsieschools.org) by mail.bsdwebsolutions.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (BSD WebSolutions, Inc.) (envelope-from ) id 1MblZJ-000Pp4-1p ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:26:57 -0400 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59208 helo=mail.poughkeepsieschools.org) by mail.poughkeepsieschools.org with esmtp (BSD WebSolutions, Inc.) (envelope-from ) id 1MblZI-000JnR-JC ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:26:56 -0400 Received: from 96.233.198.34 (SquirrelMail authenticated user bcook) by mail.poughkeepsieschools.org with HTTP; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:26:56 -0400 X-BSD-Virus-Check: ClamAV 0.94.2/9695 on mail.poughkeepsieschools.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:26:56 -0400 Message-ID: <9fc3d32e2c07ce4d3aecf9d0522de7d0.squirrel@mail.poughkeepsieschools.org> In-Reply-To: <20090813191513.GB66607@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4A843E71.4080101@poughkeepsieschools.org> <20090813191513.GB66607@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:26:56 -0400 From: "B. Cook" To: "Roland Smith" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Originating-IP: 207.241.248.11 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reboot after panic: ufs_dirbad: /var... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:27:03 -0000 On Thu, August 13, 2009 3:15 pm, Roland Smith wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 12:25:21PM -0400, B. Cook wrote: >> Here is the full error: >> >> Aug 13 09:29:57 gameface savecore: reboot after panic: ufs_dirbad: /var: >> bad dir ino 3485849 at offset 3584: mangled entry >> >> The error causes the machine to keep rebooting on its own over and over >> again. > > You are not using the partition that contains /var as the dump device, are > you? > >> i386 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Wed May 20 16:56:48 EDT 2009 >> >> It is running a GENERIC kernel with ALTQ in it, and DEVICE_POLLING >> >> The machine will not reboot on its own, but if you start in single user >> mode, fsck /var and then mount it; and exit.. the box will start.. >> >> It will do this everytime; any suggestions? > > Disable saving coredumps bt setting 'dumpdev="NO"' in /etc/rc.conf. > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) > [/etc/defaults]# 2 > grep dumpdev * rc.conf:dumpdev="AUTO" # Device to crashdump to (device name, AUTO, or NO). rc.conf:savecore_flags="" # Used if dumpdev is enabled above, and present. I will set it to NO and try rebooting it. Would AUTO cause it to write to the same fs that has the crash? What does this mean? Other than the obvious.. is there something useful that I could glean from vmcore.15 ? [/var/crash]# 22 > cat info.15 Dump header from device /dev/mirror/gm0s1b Architecture: i386 Architecture Version: 2 Dump Length: 177184768B (168 MB) Blocksize: 512 Dumptime: Thu Aug 13 09:14:44 2009 Hostname: gameface Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump Version String: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Wed May 20 16:56:48 EDT 2009 root@gameface:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERICplus Panic String: ufs_dirbad: /var: bad dir ino 3485849 at offset 3584: mangled entry Dump Parity: 2197692492 Bounds: 15 Dump Status: good var/crash]# 26 > ls -al vmcore.* -rw------- 1 root wheel 212860928 Jun 13 17:04 vmcore.0 -rw------- 1 root wheel 231198720 Jun 13 17:08 vmcore.1 -rw------- 1 root wheel 176918528 Aug 13 09:10 vmcore.13 -rw------- 1 root wheel 177827840 Aug 13 09:14 vmcore.14 -rw------- 1 root wheel 23068672 Aug 13 09:30 vmcore.15 -rw------- 1 root wheel 488067072 Aug 13 07:46 vmcore.2 -rw------- 1 root wheel 176640000 Aug 13 07:50 vmcore.3 -rw------- 1 root wheel 174018560 Aug 13 07:53 vmcore.4 -rw------- 1 root wheel 175534080 Aug 13 07:57 vmcore.5 -rw------- 1 root wheel 176820224 Aug 13 08:07 vmcore.8 Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 02:10:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A4C106568D for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B9B4D8FC43 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 66963 invoked by uid 89); 14 Aug 2009 02:10:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 14 Aug 2009 02:10:15 -0000 Message-ID: <4A84C78B.4070206@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:10:19 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "questions@freebsd.org" X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms090600030904080108010606" Cc: Subject: Managing encrypted disks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:10:16 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090600030904080108010606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I boot many of my storage machines from thumb drives that contain /boot and /etc/fstab. Everything else is loaded/mounted from GELI encrypted disks within the box. Backups/archives on some of these boxes are not within the standard AMANDA regimen. They are under special (manual) backup routines. I have three 'standard' procedures: - a remote backup server will temporarily attach and mount a GELI encrypted partition and "rsync" (via SSH) the data from the live server, and then umount and detach the drive when rsync completes - rsync is run continuously from the live storage server over SSH to a remote backup server (ie: hot spare (essentially)) - a local drive (local, relative to the site... eg: a USB/IDE drive directly connected) is (GELI) attached, mounted, and the original contents are then rsync'd The objective of these methods is to ensure that if the hardware is unplugged and moved without authorization, I'll have enough time to make critical decisions before the data could possibly be retrieved. (GELI is protected by keys which are not on site, and by passphrase). What I'd like to know, is if it's possible to somehow check to see if there are any GELI 'attach'ed disks on a given system that have not yet been mounted (or, iow, were umount'd, but were left attached). #dmesg doesn't say much in this regard, and I couldn't find out by listing /dev either. Any tricks to find out what GELI knows? I want to automate everything except the insertion of the keys, which will always be manual. Knowing how to identify what is attached but not mounted would be a good start. 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Fri, 14 Aug 2009 03:12:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0469C8FC41 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 03:12:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so544755ewy.43 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:12:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PShwY3NJt4hyW6x9YKbixAtNBKQI04Jl8eB7ON3X5R4=; b=vkM8qxN8DHaz1FEZhk6cqnjhGeq9kXBOV4pUOYKu9ZmER5MnD/Odq3iWLk22tJhSl3 6xdHqtUJFnh6vYTN1yzac24TE/cd8WlMByo7rJMekQNmkEu9fhOeAaBXuA5Q+Zqkzhwn giKn3mZ9r5TUqSeDAvugMjFEpt4GT7ASKg5FY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WJhDv06WBnOofVBVO6HtlbSkuB6yzogA+WLY+RZWhTd8gWMOny/2zu9lhXyQI5zaqv IUSLo9KuPOU7m9wuUw4EdOVfCqSp7yFCkq56I/Ol7Bzvicpb4jNDP+rtGY9e40rla19P ATgt6ncIW0uZR7RtRyQjQ4xVyk/JQr+puPpaE= Received: by 10.211.179.6 with SMTP id g6mr2563285ebp.65.1250219563990; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm3078207eyg.37.2009.08.13.20.12.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:12:37 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090814041237.64c5d8d1@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4A84C78B.4070206@ibctech.ca> References: <4A84C78B.4070206@ibctech.ca> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd7.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Managing encrypted disks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 03:12:45 -0000 On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:10:19 -0400 Steve Bertrand wrote: > What I'd like to know, is if it's possible to somehow check to see if > there are any GELI 'attach'ed disks on a given system that have not > yet been mounted (or, iow, were umount'd, but were left attached). > > #dmesg doesn't say much in this regard, and I couldn't find out by > listing /dev either. Attached partitions show in /dev as *.eli, mount tells you what is mounted. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 05:27:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F8C106568C for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5434F8FC45 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:27:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7E5Ox4N007685; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:24:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n7E5Ox2R007684; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:24:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:24:59 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: PJ Message-ID: <20090814052459.GA7598@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , PJ , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> <20090812232810.GA37833@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A841AC2.1050809@videotron.ca> <20090813174057.GA1517@ei.bzerk.org> <4A84659B.9000400@videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A84659B.9000400@videotron.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_12,J_CHICKENPOX_25 autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:27:23 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:27:26 -0000 On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 03:12:27PM -0400, PJ typed: > Ruben de Groot wrote: > > Hi PJ, > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:53:06AM -0400, PJ typed: > > > >> I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give > >> some insight on what is see from this end: > >> > > > > You probably won't get much helpfull response. When troubleshooting, it's > > allways best to try to break down the problem in tiny bits and solve them > > one by one, asking specific questions when you get stuck. > > > > > > > > > >> to be in a position to do what is required. For one thing, I do not know > >> how I can save testing output to an external file when I am working on a > >> temporary shell on the problem machine. Perhaps you could indicate what > >> I should be doing or where to look for information. > >> > > > > What kind of "temporary shell"? You mean the fixit console or livecd? You can > > allways redirect the output to some file in /tmp for example and then scp > > it to another computer. Or mount_nfs or even mount_smbfs a windows share and > > save the output there. > > > > > >> And in checking the disks with fdisk, fsck, and even running that weird > >> regenerate progam... I wasn't able to come up with anything > >> significant... that is, the configuration of the disks seemed to be ok, > >> the boot sector was ok as it was able to boot but the when the system > >> was being mounted something went wrong... and looking back, I vaguely > >> recall something about a "soft update" or something like that which > >> seems to indicate some stumbling block in the software and not hardware. > >> > > > > soft updates inconsistencies perhaps? They can be caused by faulty hardware. > > Or by power failure. What did you do about them? In such a situation the > > system will drop you into single user mode where you can do an fsck. > > > > > >> All that I am seeing is that there is either a problem with the bios > >> (which I even reinstalled and that changed nothing in the functioning) > >> or something is going on with the OS. > >> > > > > How exactly did you see this? And you reinstalled the BIOS ??? > > > > > >> I now have set up another instance of 7.2 on a different disk on the > >> 2.4ghz machine and I already find something strange... after installing > >> the minimum configuration, I installed the packages - samba3.3.3, > >> cvsup-without-gui, and smartmontools. I tried to run smartctl and cvsup > >> but nothing worked. The path variable was correct but the shell just > >> would not pick up on it. I had to start the programs from their directories. > >> That just doesn't make sense. > >> > > > > It does if your shell is csh (the default shell for root). You must issue > > the "rehash" command to re-read everything in your path after installing new > > software. > > > > Ruben > > > Thanks Ruben, > Frankly, I don't know an;ymore what I'm doing nor what is going on... it > used to be so easy to set up FBSD even if it took a lot of time to > compile... but it seems to be getting less and less intuitive and user > friendly. > How can I break thinkgs up into little bits and pieces without just > smashing the whole show to bits and pieces ;-) > There are so many problems, I have not idea where to begin. I did a little bit of that for you. You could start by answering the specific questions I asked you above right below where I asked them instead of trying to answer all in just one paragraph and failing that. > Oh, yes, csh ? I always set up bash and it never gave me such problems. > Did the same just now and again, no problems with the shell. > Right now I'm just fixing up a new set up of 7.2 on another disk and > we'll see what that does. Then I will re-setup the files I had recoverd, > see if they work and then do a last and final install of everything and > see if that works. And if there is a problem then, then I will know for > sure that it is not a hardware problem. In using computers, in general, > over the past 20 plus years I have only had maybe 6 crashes... mostly > Winbloz and about 3 with FBSD - and only 1 was because of defective > hardware (a disk)... the rest was power outs and 1 erroneous shutdown... > not bad ... and I never lost irreplaceable files. :-) Took some time > to recover them, but recover did as recover should. > Oh, well, before I give it all up, I'm giving it one final shot. > PJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 06:10:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC17106568C for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581E38FC41 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:10:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7E6Aiww034714; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:10:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D9A18BA9B; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:10:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:10:43 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "B. Cook" Message-ID: <20090814061043.GA87370@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4A843E71.4080101@poughkeepsieschools.org> <20090813191513.GB66607@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <9fc3d32e2c07ce4d3aecf9d0522de7d0.squirrel@mail.poughkeepsieschools.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9fc3d32e2c07ce4d3aecf9d0522de7d0.squirrel@mail.poughkeepsieschools.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reboot after panic: ufs_dirbad: /var... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:10:51 -0000 --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 09:26:56PM -0400, B. Cook wrote: > [/etc/defaults]# 2 > grep dumpdev * > rc.conf:dumpdev=3D"AUTO" # Device to crashdump to (device name, AUTO, or= NO). > rc.conf:savecore_flags=3D"" # Used if dumpdev is enabled above, and prese= nt. Those are the defaults. Do you have anything in /etc/rc.conf? NB: don't edit /etc/defaults/rc.conf! =20 > I will set it to NO and try rebooting it. >=20 > Would AUTO cause it to write to the same fs that has the crash? It is supposed to use a swap partition. > What does this mean? Other than the obvious.. is there something useful > that I could glean from vmcore.15 ? Run the core files through kgdb(1), and see where the crash ocurred. Does it always occur in the same spot? > [/var/crash]# 22 > cat info.15 > Dump header from device /dev/mirror/gm0s1b > Architecture: i386 > Architecture Version: 2 > Dump Length: 177184768B (168 MB) > Blocksize: 512 > Dumptime: Thu Aug 13 09:14:44 2009 > Hostname: gameface > Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump > Version String: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Wed May 20 16:56:48 EDT 2009 > root@gameface:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERICplus > Panic String: ufs_dirbad: /var: bad dir ino 3485849 at offset 3584: > mangled entry > Dump Parity: 2197692492 > Bounds: 15 > Dump Status: good Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqE/+MACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUqcwCfUXS5SEI5tYA6yLDelju39Pzq dokAnjnfWy2TNBk/1Tcmq7KaatW9Rwkb =U9FG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 03:42:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCFF106568D for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 03:41:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2D78FC51 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 03:41:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7E3fndI056017; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:41:49 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:41:48 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: PJ In-Reply-To: <4A841AC2.1050809@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <20090814012551.H19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> <20090812232810.GA37833@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A841AC2.1050809@videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:17:52 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Roland Smith , Polytropon , wmoran@potentialtech.com, Steve Bertrand Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 03:42:00 -0000 On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, PJ wrote: > Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed > > Roland Smith wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 03:54:31PM -0400, PJ wrote: > > > >> Well, I've been looking at the disk(s) and I have found some interesting > >> "shei**e" that doesn't make sense. > >> 1. The fbsd minimal installation that I had set up for recovery of the > >> previous crash does not boot... Now, why in Hades is that? I hadn't > >> touched the disk since last using it to look at the corrupted disk > >> through an usb connection. The current crashed installetion was done > >> afterwards and the only change was in the bios to set the boot disk to > >> the new installation. The installation was finally completed with all > >> the programs working fine... and then BOOM! > >> 2. I tried booting from all the disks on the machine (4 disks) and only > >> the current crashed one booted!... so, it's not the boot sector at > >> all... something is screwy on this machine; either the motherboard is > >> buggered (which I doubt, but not entirely), the disks are finished or > >> theres some kind of gremlin lurking in the confines of the box. > >> > > > > This sounds more and more like hardware troubles. Indeed it does, more and more since. > > A few things to check (in order of decreasing likelyness IMHO): > > - Cables to the harddisks: Make sure they are properly connected. A machine of > > mine suddenly started getting disk read errors after I put in another > > graphics card. It turned out that the SATA connector to that drive had come > > partially loose. > > - Powersupply: check the voltages (preferably under load) with a monitoring > > app like mbmon. If that's not possible, check in the BIOS. A failing > > powersupply can give weird unreproducable errors. If you have ever heard a > > popping noise from the machine it could be a short in the powersupply caused > > by dust. I've seen that fry motherboards. > > - PCI cards: check that they are seated properly. Although in this case I'd > > say this seems the least likely. I usually bet first on the power supply .. but it's not my money :) > I apologize for the lengthy explanation below, but perhaps it will give > some insight on what is see from this end: Chomping heavily; some useful background but a bit much, no disrespect. > machine. The troubles began when I tried to install flashplayer on the > 7.1 machine. Or could be a hardware issue that became evident around the same time? > bash4 and fluxbox for X. Everything seemed to work fine. I ran all the > programs and saw that all the files I had recovered from the crash were > recovered and working. Man, was I ever happy! > I shut down for the night and looked forward to getting bask to normal > development of my current projects. > In the morning, I boot up and WHAM!... the system is f**cked. And so am I. Have you tried swapping the power supply? I assume you've swapped the cables, removed cleaned and replaced cards, checked CPU temperature etc? > Now, the problem is that it is imperative to be able to figure out what > exactly is going on. Well, the problem with that is that I do not seem > to be in a position to do what is required. For one thing, I do not know > how I can save testing output to an external file when I am working on a > temporary shell on the problem machine. Perhaps you could indicate what > I should be doing or where to look for information. Steve Bertrand has most recently addressed those issues, good advice, especially "don't panic" :) > Another problem is rather a strange quirk or I don't know what - The > problems I am having are on two very similar machines: 1 is a MSI 6758 > 875P NeoFisr motherboard running on a Pentium 3.0ghz CPU; the other is > the identical board with a Pentium 2.4ghz CPU. The strange thing is that > even with identical bios, the bios does not act the same on both > machines. The final install that was so promising was on the 2.4 ghz > machine. Except for being somewhat slower (I find it rather slow > compared to the the 3ghz, but maybe that's normal) it always worked > without problems. Have you tried putting the HD from the problem 2.4GHz machine in the 3GHz box, to see if it behaves properly there? Have you tried running various hardware diagnostic programs over the flakey box? Overnight memtesting can reveal other problems even if memory is fine. There are quite a few diagnostic CDs around; some boot some Linux, some DOS even, it doesn't really matter if they can prove/disprove the hardware. > anyway - I tried booting a minimal installation on the 2.4ghz machine > from a disk that was set up before the crashed disk was installed and > that boot did not work... there was no reason for it to not work... all Smells like flakey hardware .. intermittent, inexplicable glitches. It might survive hours on one workload, minutes on another, no sense to it? > All that I am seeing is that there is either a problem with the bios > (which I even reinstalled and that changed nothing in the functioning) > or something is going on with the OS. After you've thoroughly proven the hardware is AOK under sustained and varied pressure, then you can suspect software issues - which tend to be far more consistent and repeatable - but if the hardware's acting flakey then you likely won't see any consistency in software issues, which does seem to concur with your descriptions to date. > I must say, it is weird that with FBSD 7.2 things have not been going > well at all... Well, since that particular point in time, at least? > So, now I am trying to set up 7.2 on this new disk and let's see what > happens. > I'm going to run some tests on those disks, including the one that maybe > is defective... I'll post results if possilbe. I wouldn't even try doing anything with disks until positively ruling out any hardware issues, given that at one stage you _apparently_ lost the boot sector, and it or another possibly intermittent issue prevented booting. You've since said that the 3GHz box with same BIOS boots up 'differently'. Has it always been so? Sometimes, quite often in fact, I've found just disassembling, thorough cleaning, fresh heatsink paste maybe, and reassembly solves many issues, without ever knowing what exactly did the trick. Life's like that .. HTH, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 04:02:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82710106568C for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9328FC70 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:02:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A1E3D00E; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:02:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7E42qph007967; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:02:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:02:52 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ian Smith Message-Id: <20090814060252.97030a97.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090814012551.H19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> <20090812232810.GA37833@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A841AC2.1050809@videotron.ca> <20090814012551.H19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:18:23 +0000 Cc: Steve Bertrand , PJ , wmoran@potentialtech.com, Roland Smith , Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:02:57 -0000 On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:41:48 +1000 (EST), Ian Smith wrote: > Smells like flakey hardware .. intermittent, inexplicable glitches. It > might survive hours on one workload, minutes on another, no sense to it? I could guess defective RAM here... I suggest running memtest for some hours, just to be sure. It's really a bad situation when you're searching for a software problem when there's none, instead it is explainable by a hardware problem. > Sometimes, quite often in fact, I've found just disassembling, thorough > cleaning, fresh heatsink paste maybe, and reassembly solves many issues, > without ever knowing what exactly did the trick. Life's like that .. This is called "doing nothing." :-) From my own experience, if sometimes really works. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 05:32:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E79A106568E for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:32:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward3.yandex.ru (forward3.yandex.ru [77.88.46.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C658FC5A for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:32:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp3.yandex.ru (smtp3.yandex.ru [77.88.46.103]) by forward3.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 1AD491190707; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:32:29 +0400 (MSD) Received: from HOMEUSER (unknown [77.93.42.18]) by smtp3.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTPA id CE8678B80FD; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:32:28 +0400 (MSD) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:32:30 +0300 From: =?utf-8?B?0JrQvtC90YzQutC+0LIg0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lk=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KfQnyDQmtC+0L3RjNC60L7QsiwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <807308495.20090814083230@yandex.ru> To: Mel Flynn In-Reply-To: <200908120859.39234.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <91695508.20090812190107@yandex.ru> <200908120859.39234.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Yandex-TimeMark: 1250227949 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 X-Yandex-Front: smtp3.yandex.ru X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:18:37 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?utf-8?B?0JrQvtC90YzQutC+0LIg0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lk=?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:32:31 -0000 ЗдравÑтвуйте, Mel. Ð’Ñ‹ пиÑали 12 авгуÑта 2009 г., 19:59:39: MF> On Wednesday 12 August 2009 08:01:07 Коньков Евгений wrote: >> Aug 12 15:59:08 host savecore: reboot after panic: integer divide fault >> Aug 12 15:59:08 host savecore: writing core to vmcore.4 >> >> How to obtain which process cause system to reboot? MF> kgdb /boot/kernel/kernel /var/crash/vmcore.4 kes# kgdb /boot/kernel/kernel /var/crash/vmcore.4 GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd"... Cannot access memory at address 0x0 (kgdb) -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 07:38:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C658D106568E for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geo.liaskos@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f210.google.com (mail-fx0-f210.google.com [209.85.220.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E11C8FC48 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so1027960fxm.43 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:38:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dykDljrJM2XCxRwOFdsQ8ooTf3WXxGsFAWm/NAnfd7o=; b=Sk57DpKrB2DfTh8bqkA5FhNPJmDj3C25NzLGOLduOnwS188mmPaOM2TTpFFQkDrCk1 gOkSEgYyg+Ea88SnrkrI6WRYCxfcyHw9+sFSknDr94I1u/gHbbeLbGynF+36d8hJB9aj C5EMaZOB2whUzxHKbpVvfyyomMR4nSEILKvJQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EzxnE+FdlWbYh89W2Id8KG+3TnoSXdO+zug+tCLzgbQuZtXHvmqH9LAg5Q9ufcoGqm 38pLOY3agPura3CGR2AJ0sPrb57cFD7AgHiAVK4bj2e3EuqbWC2C9Cm2DUKZBSS6FcZl w/0ky7etotuPFcsMfgV24h70om4L6+KpmESV4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.108.75 with SMTP id e11mr470895fap.43.1250233996742; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:13:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <42459.19647.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <42459.19647.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:13:16 +0300 Message-ID: From: George Liaskos To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg slow on Toshiba A305 SP6926A X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:38:41 -0000 Try the following options in your Device section: Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy" On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Leonardo M. Ram=E9 = wrote: > > Hi, I installed 7.2 amd64 on a Toshiba Satellite A305 SP6926A and it look= s like Xorg is too slow on this machine. Does anyone have this notebook, ca= n share its xorg.conf? > > uname -a > FreeBSD toshiba-leo.localhost.localdomain 7.2-STABLE-200906 FreeBSD 7.2-S= TABLE-200906 #0: Sun Jun =A07 10:23:49 UTC 2009 =A0 =A0 root@driscoll.cse.b= uffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC =A0amd64 > > /etc/rc.conf > keymap=3D"spanish.iso.acc" > sshd_enable=3D"YES" > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Thu Aug 13 12:05:46 2009 > ifconfig_re0=3D"DHCP" > hostname=3D"toshiba-leo.localhost.localdomain" > hald_enable=3D"YES" > dbus_enable=3D"YES" > > > xorg.conf > > Section "ServerLayout" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Identifier =A0 =A0 "X.org Configured" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Screen =A0 =A0 =A00 =A0"Screen0" 0 0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0InputDevice =A0 =A0"Mouse0" "CorePointer" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0InputDevice =A0 =A0"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > EndSection > > Section "Files" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ModulePath =A0 "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0FontPath =A0 =A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0FontPath =A0 =A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0FontPath =A0 =A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0FontPath =A0 =A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0FontPath =A0 =A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0FontPath =A0 =A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Load =A0"dbe" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Load =A0"dri" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Load =A0"dri2" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Load =A0"extmod" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Load =A0"glx" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Load =A0"record" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Identifier =A0"Keyboard0" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Driver =A0 =A0 =A0"kbd" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Identifier =A0"Mouse0" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Driver =A0 =A0 =A0"mouse" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Option =A0 =A0 =A0"Protocol" "auto" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Option =A0 =A0 =A0"Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Option =A0 =A0 =A0"ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Identifier =A0 "Monitor0" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0VendorName =A0 "Monitor Vendor" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ModelName =A0 =A0"Monitor Model" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0### Available Driver options are:- > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"Fals= e", > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0### [arg]: arg optional > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0#Option =A0 =A0 "NoAccel" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 # [] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0#Option =A0 =A0 "SWcursor" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0# [] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0#Option =A0 =A0 "ColorKey" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0# > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0#Option =A0 =A0 "CacheLines" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0# > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0#Option =A0 =A0 "Dac6Bit" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 # [] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Option =A0 =A0 "DRI" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0# [] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0#Option =A0 =A0 "NoDDC" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 # [] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0#Option =A0 =A0 "ShowCache" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 # [] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0#Option =A0 =A0 "XvMCSurfaces" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= # > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0#Option =A0 =A0 "PageFlip" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0# [] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Identifier =A0"Card0" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Driver =A0 =A0 =A0"intel" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0VendorName =A0"Intel Corporation" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0BoardName =A0 "Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics= Controller" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0BusID =A0 =A0 =A0 "PCI:0:2:0" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Identifier "Screen0" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Device =A0 =A0 "Card0" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Monitor =A0 =A0"Monitor0" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0SubSection "Display" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Viewport =A0 0 0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Depth =A0 =A0 1 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0EndSubSection > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0SubSection "Display" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Viewport =A0 0 0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Depth =A0 =A0 4 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0EndSubSection > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0SubSection "Display" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Viewport =A0 0 0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Depth =A0 =A0 8 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0EndSubSection > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0SubSection "Display" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Viewport =A0 0 0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Depth =A0 =A0 15 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0EndSubSection > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0SubSection "Display" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Viewport =A0 0 0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Depth =A0 =A0 16 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0EndSubSection > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0SubSection "Display" > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Viewport =A0 0 0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Depth =A0 =A0 24 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0EndSubSection > EndSection > > > > > Leonardo M. Ram=E9 > http://leonardorame.blogspot.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 08:20:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E708B10656BB for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mailinglist.ahhyes.net) Received: from mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A408FC56 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.0.201] (c122-106-58-139.rivrw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.58.139]) by mail01.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7E8K0Uf009360 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:20:01 +1000 Message-ID: <4A851E30.2010008@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:20:00 +1000 From: Alex R User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Userland PPP fails to load via rc.conf (7.2/amd64) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:20:06 -0000 Hi Guys, I ran into the same problem as this person did (see the link below): http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-net@freebsd.org/msg24337.html ppp starts fine if invoked from shell prompt, however the problem above occurs for me when I attempt to start it automatically at boot via /etc/rc.conf Funnily enough, the solution presented in that article seems to fix the issue.. But why? This problem is very easy to reproduce, how could it have been overlooked? I just happened to find the article in the link above, out of desperation, it's not good that I had to Google for a solution. Is the solution given "safe"? Should I open a PR? Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 09:54:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1346D106568D for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:54:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AE58FC51 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 22so237970eye.7 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:53:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Tic8AhPOrWN9f8cyzV0z6Ytn4fGtYodgHnevmlmhB9E=; b=BYqw5fAWW0AzwaP4iSRmZrP3Pd95/2/465NVcwpGm+FTo9L2bl7qWVtHljlane/l9d BY5+8J063oCPW8sa1O5Wvd6XEx7y/U5PZVb6drAzmj/7L2GHmVU2zW9Te4EoQy0tJlvH Gpz5NhSoSrK2Sn0EeUWlvwFSWxtPL07oVlIFs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nbBZr+hasEqB9Kh9ddW5T4dl094Yf48jxf4JHEAA2r7PBGPdyt8tXO1dOWQ4hVxnrJ QMsVjW8Osh+mbXJ+gEmtvMVjBslC2HucmsjaN7l97iWvtN12NhJ0zQFWHsP3a1XqO99L XQRCHmNulM8KpYPwElZg3orZSC6HI97NleCm8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.92.8 with SMTP id p8mr2959721ebb.6.1250242163190; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:29:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A84C78B.4070206@ibctech.ca> References: <4A84C78B.4070206@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 03:29:23 -0600 Message-ID: <64c038660908140229q663f6f0fn21533ae187931754@mail.gmail.com> From: Modulok To: Steve Bertrand Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Managing encrypted disks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:54:00 -0000 [snip] > What I'd like to know, is if it's possible to somehow check to see if > there are any GELI 'attach'ed disks on a given system that have not yet > been mounted (or, iow, were umount'd, but were left attached). > > #dmesg doesn't say much in this regard, and I couldn't find out by > listing /dev either. > > Any tricks to find out what GELI knows? I want to automate everything > except the insertion of the keys, which will always be manual. Knowing > how to identify what is attached but not mounted would be a good start. [/snip] Steve, If there are no /dev/*.eli devices listed, then there are no geli providers attached. You can also check the output of the 'geli list' and 'geli status' commands. If they return nothing, no providers are attached, otherwise they'll list the providers and algorithms/key sizes used and so forth. -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 10:08:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70A5106568F for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:08:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4375F8FC6F for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1MbtiK-00024B-Pl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:08:48 +0000 Received: from pool-70-21-1-73.res.east.verizon.net ([70.21.1.73]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:08:48 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-70-21-1-73.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:08:48 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:08:54 -0400 Lines: 76 Message-ID: References: <20090811173211.6FE4D106567B@hub.freebsd.org> <20090812193008.F19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <4A82A8D9.30406@videotron.ca> <20090812172704.GA27066@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A831DF7.9090506@videotron.ca> <20090812232810.GA37833@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A841AC2.1050809@videotron.ca> <20090814012551.H19821@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-21-1-73.res.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: boot sector f*ed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:08:52 -0000 Ian Smith wrote: [snip] > > Smells like flakey hardware .. intermittent, inexplicable glitches. It > might survive hours on one workload, minutes on another, no sense to it? > > > All that I am seeing is that there is either a problem with the bios > > (which I even reinstalled and that changed nothing in the functioning) > > or something is going on with the OS. > > After you've thoroughly proven the hardware is AOK under sustained and > varied pressure, then you can suspect software issues - which tend to be > far more consistent and repeatable - but if the hardware's acting flakey > then you likely won't see any consistency in software issues, which does > seem to concur with your descriptions to date. > In my experience, hardware problems can quite possibly show little pattern to where and when in the usage of said machine they cause the box to flake. One that is malfunctioning all the time is relatively easy to find. The intermittent is the bane of all troubleshooting. I hate the intermittent more than I hate anything. One pattern an intermittent will show is eventually as the bad part gets worse the period between flakes will get shorter, and ultimately at some point die completely. Initially the period can be quite large so proper troubleshooting is difficult as you can't troubleshoot during the 'in between' when it's not malfunctioning. I also have an 80/20 rule about hardware as to whether it is a hot or cold failure. The 80% part is that most hardware problems occur when very dense VLSI chips heat up. So a machine may not show any problem until it's been powered up for a while. The other 20% is the cold start. Turn the box on and there is immediately some kind of problem early on in the course of booting. Leave it powered on, walk away for 20 minutes to get a coffee, and reset it after it's had a chance to warm up and now it works fine the rest of the day. These patterns are indicative of a typical pattern in hardware trouble behavior. A software error, on the other hand, most of the time shows itself as a well defined repeatable sequence of steps that cause the problem every time the sequence is executed. This can also usually be easily reproduced by others running the same, or similar enough, platform(s) by executing said sequence. This can get quite sticky as even the BIOS code is software! Bad buggy BIOS code having a bad reaction to the compiled boot loader binary, even though probably quite rare, is not totally outside the realm of possibility. Somewhere very near the root of the geometric logic tree of troubleshooting you need to be able to drive a wedge between hardware and software in a divide and conquer kind of way. Making any arbitrary assumptions as to which side is the problem early on will blind the troubleshooter to avenues of hypothesis this and test that. Assume that the hardware is 100% OK so it must be a software problem without proof is a mistake, and vice versa. And it might be as simple as installing another OS such as a Linux distro or Windows to the box. If it is truly a hardware problem it may continue to malfunction and cause trouble no matter what the choice of OS. Or it may not, as sometimes buggy hardware design failures are compensated for with workarounds in drivers, thus hiding the flaw. It's the old 'have a box with xyz hardware' with a known problem and the fix is to download and install driver revision such and such from the OEM. Since these kinds of things are not generally propagated far and wide an OS such as FreeBSD may not be privy to such bad hardware details. Sometimes the developers do incorporate hacks for hardware. If you can accurately identify such a situation the most likely way to get it fixed for the long run is to file a proper PR. If done well enough and it catches the eye of a dev who may be interested and actually possess the piece of hardware a workaround may get coded and become a part of FreeBSD. Just a lot of generalizations here. As always, there is the YMMV clause. :-) [snip] -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 10:47:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBE3106568B for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:47:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D6C8FC5B for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:47:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vhoffman.lon.namesco.net (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7EAntl6093417 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:49:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4A8540AD.6020700@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:47:09 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Macintosh/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mak Kolybabi References: <20090813222501.GB29899@brisbane.nepharia.org> In-Reply-To: <20090813222501.GB29899@brisbane.nepharia.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Partions per slice limitation removed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:47:15 -0000 Mak Kolybabi wrote: > On 2009-08-13 13:41, Doug Poland wrote: > >> I thought I recalled reading, within the last few months, that there is no >> longer a 8 partition/slice limitation in FreeBSD. I've been googling and >> reading man pages to verify that but cannot find any documentation to support >> it. Was I dreaming? >> > > (Forgot to send this reply to the list the first time, not just the OP.) > > No, you were not dreaming. When in doubt, check the source. From > head/sbin/bsdlabel/bsdlabel.c [1]: > > "Allow bsdlabel to operate on labels that have at most 26 partitions by virtue > of there not being any (lower-case) letters avaliable for more partitions." > > [1] http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=174501 > > Indeed and from http://ivoras.sharanet.org/freebsd/freebsd8.html (a reasonably complete list of whats comming in 8.0) it says bsdlabel gets extended to 26 partitions Status: Committed to -CURRENT Will appear in 8.0: sure Author: Marcel Moolenaar web: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2007-December/084949.html bsdlabel is (finally!) extended to support more than 8 partitions. The new limit of 26 partitions comes from the number of lower-case letters. To make use of this change, GEOM_PART needs to be used instead of GEOM_BSD (this requires custom kernel configurations). Vince > -- > Matthew Anthony Kolybabi (Mak) > > > () ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org | Against proprietary extensions > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 11:15:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2C2106568D for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:15:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2C98FC57 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:15:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7EBF8aK009670; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:15:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n7EBF8us009669; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:15:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:15:08 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: Alex R Message-ID: <20090814111508.GA9600@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Alex R , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A851E30.2010008@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A851E30.2010008@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:15:12 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Userland PPP fails to load via rc.conf (7.2/amd64) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:15:13 -0000 On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 06:20:00PM +1000, Alex R typed: > Hi Guys, > > I ran into the same problem as this person did (see the link below): > > http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-net@freebsd.org/msg24337.html > > ppp starts fine if invoked from shell prompt, however the problem above > occurs for me when I attempt to start it automatically at boot via > /etc/rc.conf > > Funnily enough, the solution presented in that article seems to fix the > issue.. But why? This problem is very easy to reproduce, how could it > have been overlooked? I just happened to find the article in the link > above, out of desperation, it's not good that I had to Google for a > solution. What's the output of the command ldd `which su` ? > Is the solution given "safe"? Should I open a PR? > > Alex > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 11:28:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46068106568C for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:28:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F0278FC4D for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:28:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 49626 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Aug 2009 11:28:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250249287; bh=TY1T5dU/Irn24UdfsbsqG2+Uvam+ECMb8qs4YZ/39pU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=6VRnpvd8o0BZvfTf+BK2AdMa/YmP+Y9OVJkgZfd3p3aj4F6M7Pv8ju07qJEOlGN5LGuiCW5+d8y/pNoVb4MT7WGf7EqDeEeqMkWAPFpHtOh3UDaYyOK7v9tQWzVdBDGQB1kzi76+gmT3Ddzdnjj8YS6glGKnzIdRMT/jUt5Zz9U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=uCX40epOuVTElw/WTPX27omTwLSOjEKMcbFP0MKD5z3qHKKXJJenR0OaddZHiDhjtcgdG9E9l7QlF9NduT0+CRurYV+73gDFdiYft2XDjAVcCk4jhRw5UBRls6OyrW11o0+lt2VfPgQXp2Z4siGKsJ+OBPnR76MMN16aPxV3FDE=; Message-ID: <478939.49542.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: V.u2sfAVM1k3jEQosau0Tm9XP2OW7HW0osrBlMoJ7.GRaBcwgAsObolvj_YvRe8NSkxp0NKrNy.4onDERL.NVcxV3167m0HnM7MZnn7c3kb1AxrylovorNuwc14GZU6GuY4vW2wnOUdzy8rrH5VidV7aw1l2f2_5jvlECnHfIKzm.3_fdyQAfQlYj.NeE1pT4HJESCuOx4xA4GZPlRPkopC1mu5caErFyVwLtfUAiQ2YNWS9g6e7Ho56oNP4WfaycpFzyuP99KXb.z8JJOMR.uidbKtJrNnpCnfVcLXXKJ7bAAaTRIgQKQqWDY8DThpSmeWUX5gN5_8OXvsSq_Fr_saszzDQALie8.qkq7zXjTI6OW7anec9lOAIV.ZTRCLqPPA- Received: from [201.231.61.15] by web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:28:07 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:28:07 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: George Liaskos In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg slow on Toshiba A305 SP6926A X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:28:09 -0000 Thanks George, that worked!.=0A=0ALeonardo M. Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonardorame.= blogspot.com=0A=0A=0A--- On Fri, 8/14/09, George Liaskos wrote:=0A=0A> From: George Liaskos =0A> Subjec= t: Re: Xorg slow on Toshiba A305 SP6926A=0A> To: "Leonardo M. Ram=E9" =0A> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Date: Friday, A= ugust 14, 2009, 4:13 AM=0A> Try the following options in your=0A> Device se= ction:=0A> =0A> Option=A0=A0=A0 =A0 =A0=0A> "AccelMethod"=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0= =A0 "EXA"=0A> Option=A0=A0=A0 =A0 =A0=0A> "MigrationHeuristic"=A0=A0=A0 "gr= eedy"=0A> =0A> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Leonardo M. Ram=E9 =0A> wrote:=0A> >=0A> > Hi, I installed 7.2 amd64 on a Toshib= a Satellite A305=0A> SP6926A and it looks like Xorg is too slow on this mac= hine.=0A> Does anyone have this notebook, can share its xorg.conf?=0A> >=0A= > > uname -a=0A> > FreeBSD toshiba-leo.localhost.localdomain=0A> 7.2-STABLE= -200906 FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE-200906 #0: Sun Jun =A07=0A> 10:23:49 UTC 2009 = =A0 =A0 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC=0A> =A0a= md64=0A> >=0A> > /etc/rc.conf=0A> > keymap=3D"spanish.iso.acc"=0A> > sshd_e= nable=3D"YES"=0A> > # -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Thu Aug 13=0A> 12= :05:46 2009=0A> > ifconfig_re0=3D"DHCP"=0A> > hostname=3D"toshiba-leo.local= host.localdomain"=0A> > hald_enable=3D"YES"=0A> > dbus_enable=3D"YES"=0A> >= =0A> >=0A> > xorg.conf=0A> >=0A> > Section "ServerLayout"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0Identifier =A0 =A0 "X.org Configured"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Screen =A0 = =A0 =A00 =A0"Screen0" 0 0=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0InputDevice =A0 =A0"Mouse0" = "CorePointer"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0InputDevice =A0 =A0"Keyboard0"=0A> "Core= Keyboard"=0A> > EndSection=0A> >=0A> > Section "Files"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0ModulePath =A0=0A> "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Fo= ntPath =A0 =A0=0A> "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Fo= ntPath =A0 =A0=0A> "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Fon= tPath =A0 =A0=0A> "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0FontP= ath =A0 =A0=0A> "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Font= Path =A0 =A0=0A> "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Fo= ntPath =A0 =A0=0A> "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"=0A> > EndSection=0A> >= =0A> > Section "Module"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Load =A0"dbe"=0A> > =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0Load =A0"dri"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Load =A0"dri2"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0Load =A0"extmod"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Load =A0"glx"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0Load =A0"record"=0A> > EndSection=0A> >=0A> > Section "InputDevice"=0A> = > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Identifier =A0"Keyboard0"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Driver =A0 = =A0 =A0"kbd"=0A> > EndSection=0A> >=0A> > Section "InputDevice"=0A> > =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0Identifier =A0"Mouse0"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Driver =A0 =A0 =A0"m= ouse"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Option =A0 =A0 =A0"Protocol" "auto"=0A> > =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0Option =A0 =A0 =A0"Device" "/dev/sysmouse"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= Option =A0 =A0 =A0"ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"=0A> > EndSection=0A> >=0A> > Sec= tion "Monitor"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Identifier =A0 "Monitor0"=0A> > =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0VendorName =A0 "Monitor Vendor"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ModelName =A0 = =A0"Monitor Model"=0A> > EndSection=0A> >=0A> > Section "Device"=0A> > =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0### Available Driver options are:-=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0### Valu= es: : integer, :=0A> float, : "True"/"False",=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0### : "String", :=0A> " Hz/kHz/MHz"=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0### [arg]: arg optional=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0#Option =A0 =A0 "NoAccel" = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 # 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Ram=E9=0A> > http://leonardorame.blogspot.com=0A> >= =0A> >=0A> >=0A> > _______________________________________________=0A> > fr= eebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> mailing list=0A> > http://lists.freebsd.org= /mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A> =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 11:49:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD74E106568C for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:49:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mailinglist.ahhyes.net) Received: from mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50BBC8FC16 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:49:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.0.201] (c122-106-58-139.rivrw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.58.139]) by mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7EBnkmC004907 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:49:47 +1000 Message-ID: <4A854F5C.3010003@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:49:48 +1000 From: Alex R User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A851E30.2010008@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20090814111508.GA9600@ei.bzerk.org> In-Reply-To: <20090814111508.GA9600@ei.bzerk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Userland PPP fails to load via rc.conf (7.2/amd64) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:49:49 -0000 Hi Ruben, Output is as follows: /usr/bin/su: libutil.so.7 => /lib/libutil.so.7 (0x800635000) libpam.so.4 => /usr/lib/libpam.so.4 (0x800744000) libbsm.so.2 => /usr/lib/libbsm.so.2 (0x80084c000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x800962000) Ruben de Groot wrote: > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 06:20:00PM +1000, Alex R typed: > >> Hi Guys, >> >> I ran into the same problem as this person did (see the link below): >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-net@freebsd.org/msg24337.html >> >> ppp starts fine if invoked from shell prompt, however the problem above >> occurs for me when I attempt to start it automatically at boot via >> /etc/rc.conf >> >> Funnily enough, the solution presented in that article seems to fix the >> issue.. But why? This problem is very easy to reproduce, how could it >> have been overlooked? I just happened to find the article in the link >> above, out of desperation, it's not good that I had to Google for a >> solution. >> > > What's the output of the command > > ldd `which su` > > ? > > >> Is the solution given "safe"? Should I open a PR? >> >> Alex >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 11:59:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C34106568B for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:59:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mailinglist.ahhyes.net) Received: from mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FE08FC4B for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.0.201] (c122-106-58-139.rivrw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.58.139]) by mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7EBwxQX028460 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:59:00 +1000 Message-ID: <4A855184.9030204@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:59:00 +1000 From: Alex R User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A851E30.2010008@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20090814111508.GA9600@ei.bzerk.org> In-Reply-To: <20090814111508.GA9600@ei.bzerk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Userland PPP fails to load via rc.conf (7.2/amd64) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:59:02 -0000 There are also some interesting responses in comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc about this (I opened a thread there too). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 12:04:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87C110656A9 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:04:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254508FC5B for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:04:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7EC4HVv009936; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:04:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n7EC4GRW009935; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:04:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:04:16 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: Alex R Message-ID: <20090814120416.GA9851@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Alex R , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A851E30.2010008@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20090814111508.GA9600@ei.bzerk.org> <4A854F5C.3010003@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A854F5C.3010003@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:04:21 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Userland PPP fails to load via rc.conf (7.2/amd64) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:04:22 -0000 On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 09:49:48PM +1000, Alex R typed: > Hi Ruben, > > Output is as follows: > > /usr/bin/su: > libutil.so.7 => /lib/libutil.so.7 (0x800635000) > libpam.so.4 => /usr/lib/libpam.so.4 (0x800744000) > libbsm.so.2 => /usr/lib/libbsm.so.2 (0x80084c000) > libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x800962000) That's normal. Shall I take a guess? You changed root's shell to bash! bash uses libintl, and will be invoked by the "su -m $ppp_user" in /etc/rc.d/ppp Yet another good reason not to change root's default shell :D cheers, Ruben > Ruben de Groot wrote: > >On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 06:20:00PM +1000, Alex R typed: > > > >>Hi Guys, > >> > >>I ran into the same problem as this person did (see the link below): > >> > >>http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-net@freebsd.org/msg24337.html > >> > >>ppp starts fine if invoked from shell prompt, however the problem above > >>occurs for me when I attempt to start it automatically at boot via > >>/etc/rc.conf > >> > >>Funnily enough, the solution presented in that article seems to fix the > >>issue.. But why? This problem is very easy to reproduce, how could it > >>have been overlooked? I just happened to find the article in the link > >>above, out of desperation, it's not good that I had to Google for a > >>solution. > >> > > > >What's the output of the command > > > >ldd `which su` > > > >? > > > > > >>Is the solution given "safe"? Should I open a PR? > >> > >>Alex > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 12:08:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD1410656A4 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:08:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mailinglist.ahhyes.net) Received: from mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88DD28FC62 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.0.201] (c122-106-58-139.rivrw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.58.139]) by mail07.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7EC8kwJ012086 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:08:47 +1000 Message-ID: <4A8553D0.8080801@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:08:48 +1000 From: Alex R User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A851E30.2010008@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20090814111508.GA9600@ei.bzerk.org> <4A854F5C.3010003@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20090814120416.GA9851@ei.bzerk.org> In-Reply-To: <20090814120416.GA9851@ei.bzerk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Userland PPP fails to load via rc.conf (7.2/amd64) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:08:49 -0000 Actually I did change the root shell to bash. U think that might cause it? Ruben de Groot wrote: > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 09:49:48PM +1000, Alex R typed: > >> Hi Ruben, >> >> Output is as follows: >> >> /usr/bin/su: >> libutil.so.7 => /lib/libutil.so.7 (0x800635000) >> libpam.so.4 => /usr/lib/libpam.so.4 (0x800744000) >> libbsm.so.2 => /usr/lib/libbsm.so.2 (0x80084c000) >> libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x800962000) >> > > That's normal. Shall I take a guess? > > You changed root's shell to bash! > bash uses libintl, and will be invoked by the "su -m $ppp_user" in > /etc/rc.d/ppp > > Yet another good reason not to change root's default shell :D > > cheers, > Ruben > > >> Ruben de Groot wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 06:20:00PM +1000, Alex R typed: >>> >>> >>>> Hi Guys, >>>> >>>> I ran into the same problem as this person did (see the link below): >>>> >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-net@freebsd.org/msg24337.html >>>> >>>> ppp starts fine if invoked from shell prompt, however the problem above >>>> occurs for me when I attempt to start it automatically at boot via >>>> /etc/rc.conf >>>> >>>> Funnily enough, the solution presented in that article seems to fix the >>>> issue.. But why? This problem is very easy to reproduce, how could it >>>> have been overlooked? I just happened to find the article in the link >>>> above, out of desperation, it's not good that I had to Google for a >>>> solution. >>>> >>>> >>> What's the output of the command >>> >>> ldd `which su` >>> >>> ? >>> >>> >>> >>>> Is the solution given "safe"? Should I open a PR? >>>> >>>> Alex >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 12:12:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AFF3106568F for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A72AC8FC60 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:12:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 38186 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Aug 2009 12:12:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1250251944; bh=sPkRfuQrGH+VZ7Q6cCSv+5RofrS/l5vYxopi649U3Ws=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TEtxDAwMPwi3A8gmwBl7kRf366dL/qR9N/GzU2db05fScn2x2ANHZ6520LXj7PpH4AhMsFakxtL9XOZiPXtDDVVmYKILU+BIfyAsgJDXiLaHyc/KCLIMx+tS7lOrluMuuQtA8qnwDSMe6rwxBYE0seHhDxDVK7JIDyQrG7AuAgQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qRLxzGlvwVXfNLADN9/g8F/7zHG6XQ0uIvRvhmKIP+3EGIkUwBLXA+lB4+Fn6bbH3hKVUBJx28xIOoXidgqEyQpXMDS7SrOomAO9Ccu1rCy1C2ievAusdO8LBXW4kb7shS6E6NiPkN0ETWGiSzHcE8ENn9zwU/3bR0x5e89DqXY=; Message-ID: <775149.32518.qm@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ZW_EjKgVM1kh1pH9LOHFIvKmGFdDs0WjeWMG9rkn1p31EsMCMfXpZTOm3P0sJbjfFKmAmU0y1M2qEo9GB8qlCYWq0vv_G_TzkYTNUPY6aYc1Upohu98YcsMSndh3D3j2MsySURciSmHyg95Hl.P3_5APG_SE02DyB2I3FkL0l75R7c._8Qt_CyMcKL6ssSoq1ECi04WK7byWXl8.njn4DWtBavFnnGntBQPiZ5fGTRO86.zvIs.tc8ee8FruVVpYv3ztM_XMRGmN98eReVCa4tAR1TvbgMGyIFJUVzzUoHpYAPIqFG3QhKkIhmq6BiExky0- Received: from [201.231.61.15] by web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:12:24 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.1.2 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.2 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:12:24 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: More on Toshiba A305 SP6926A X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:12:26 -0000 A new issue I found is I can't control screen brightness & contrast. This m= achine has this control in Windows by clicking the [FN Key]+F6/F7.=0A=0ADoe= s anyone knows how to enable this in FreeBsd?=0A=0AThanks in advance,=0ALeo= nardo.=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 12:19:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB6B106568C for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:19:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4408FC51 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:19:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7ECJFNd010012; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:19:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n7ECJF2L010011; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:19:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:19:15 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: Alex R Message-ID: <20090814121915.GB9851@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Alex R , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A851E30.2010008@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20090814111508.GA9600@ei.bzerk.org> <4A854F5C.3010003@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20090814120416.GA9851@ei.bzerk.org> <4A8553D0.8080801@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A8553D0.8080801@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:19:20 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Userland PPP fails to load via rc.conf (7.2/amd64) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:19:21 -0000 On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:08:48PM +1000, Alex R typed: > Actually I did change the root shell to bash. U think that might cause it? Definately. before ldconfig is run, only the system libraries in /lib and /usr/lib are known. Doing a "su -m root" at that time, as /etc/rc.d/ppp is doing, will result in the error message you got, as bash wants to load libintl.so.8, which lives in /usr/local/lib. Ruben > Ruben de Groot wrote: > >On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 09:49:48PM +1000, Alex R typed: > > > >>Hi Ruben, > >> > >>Output is as follows: > >> > >>/usr/bin/su: > >> libutil.so.7 => /lib/libutil.so.7 (0x800635000) > >> libpam.so.4 => /usr/lib/libpam.so.4 (0x800744000) > >> libbsm.so.2 => /usr/lib/libbsm.so.2 (0x80084c000) > >> libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x800962000) > >> > > > >That's normal. Shall I take a guess? > > > >You changed root's shell to bash! > >bash uses libintl, and will be invoked by the "su -m $ppp_user" in > >/etc/rc.d/ppp > > > >Yet another good reason not to change root's default shell :D > > > >cheers, > >Ruben > > > > > >>Ruben de Groot wrote: > >> > >>>On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 06:20:00PM +1000, Alex R typed: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Hi Guys, > >>>> > >>>>I ran into the same problem as this person did (see the link below): > >>>> > >>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-net@freebsd.org/msg24337.html > >>>> > >>>>ppp starts fine if invoked from shell prompt, however the problem above > >>>>occurs for me when I attempt to start it automatically at boot via > >>>>/etc/rc.conf > >>>> > >>>>Funnily enough, the solution presented in that article seems to fix the > >>>>issue.. But why? This problem is very easy to reproduce, how could it > >>>>have been overlooked? I just happened to find the article in the link > >>>>above, out of desperation, it's not good that I had to Google for a > >>>>solution. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>What's the output of the command > >>> > >>>ldd `which su` > >>> > >>>? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Is the solution given "safe"? Should I open a PR? > >>>> > >>>>Alex > >>>> > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>>>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 12:21:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AFE106564A for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:21:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D548FC41 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from haran.polands.org ([75.87.219.217]) by hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090814122142723.XDJE29672@hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com>; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:21:42 +0000 Received: from email.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by haran.polands.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7ECLfqj035352; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:21:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from 209.103.215.99 (SquirrelMail authenticated user djp) by email.polands.org with HTTP; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:21:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3f6d7b897944e7dbd463b70d407bd09b.squirrel@email.polands.org> In-Reply-To: <4A8540AD.6020700@unsane.co.uk> References: <20090813222501.GB29899@brisbane.nepharia.org> <4A8540AD.6020700@unsane.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:21:42 -0500 From: "Doug Poland" To: "Vincent Hoffman" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Mak Kolybabi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Partions per slice limitation removed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:21:44 -0000 On Fri, August 14, 2009 05:47, Vincent Hoffman wrote: > Mak Kolybabi wrote: >> On 2009-08-13 13:41, Doug Poland wrote: >> >>> I thought I recalled reading, within the last few months, that >>> there is no longer a 8 partition/slice limitation in FreeBSD. >>> I've been googling and reading man pages to verify that but >>> cannot find any documentation to support it. Was I dreaming? >>> >> >> No, you were not dreaming. When in doubt, check the source. From >> head/sbin/bsdlabel/bsdlabel.c [1]: >> >> "Allow bsdlabel to operate on labels that have at most 26 >> partitions by virtue of there not being any (lower-case) letters >> avaliable for more partitions." >> >> [1] >> http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=174501 >> >> > Indeed and from http://ivoras.sharanet.org/freebsd/freebsd8.html (a > reasonably complete list of whats comming in 8.0) it says > > bsdlabel gets extended to 26 partitions > > Status: Committed to -CURRENT Will appear in 8.0: sure Author: Marcel > Moolenaar web: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2007-December/084949.html > > bsdlabel is (finally!) extended to support more than 8 partitions. > The new limit of 26 partitions comes from the number of lower-case > letters. > > To make use of this change, GEOM_PART needs to be used instead of > GEOM_BSD (this requires custom kernel configurations). > Ah, Ivan's site, that's where I saw it. Thank you. Kinda surprised it didn't turn up on a google search. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 12:22:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0FF1065691 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@mailinglist.ahhyes.net) Received: from mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C528FC68 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.0.201] (c122-106-58-139.rivrw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.58.139]) by mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n7ECMKh0030576 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:22:21 +1000 Message-ID: <4A8556FE.7030505@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:22:22 +1000 From: Alex R User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4A851E30.2010008@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20090814111508.GA9600@ei.bzerk.org> <4A854F5C.3010003@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20090814120416.GA9851@ei.bzerk.org> <4A8553D0.8080801@mailinglist.ahhyes.net> <20090814121915.GB9851@ei.bzerk.org> In-Reply-To: <20090814121915.GB9851@ei.bzerk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Userland PPP fails to load via rc.conf (7.2/amd64) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:22:23 -0000 Thank you Ruben :-) :-) I wouldn't have thought in a million years that could be the issue, but what you have said makes perfect sense. Looks like its back to /bin/sh for root. Cheers, Alex. Ruben de Groot wrote: > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:08:48PM +1000, Alex R typed: > >> Actually I did change the root shell to bash. U think that might cause it? >> > > Definately. before ldconfig is run, only the system libraries in /lib and /usr/lib > are known. Doing a "su -m root" at that time, as /etc/rc.d/ppp is doing, will > result in the error message you got, as bash wants to load libintl.so.8, which > lives in /usr/local/lib. > > Ruben > > >> Ruben de Groot wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 09:49:48PM +1000, Alex R typed: >>> >>> >>>> Hi Ruben, >>>> >>>> Output is as follows: >>>> >>>> /usr/bin/su: >>>> libutil.so.7 => /lib/libutil.so.7 (0x800635000) >>>> libpam.so.4 => /usr/lib/libpam.so.4 (0x800744000) >>>> libbsm.so.2 => /usr/lib/libbsm.so.2 (0x80084c000) >>>> libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x800962000) >>>> >>>> >>> That's normal. Shall I take a guess? >>> >>> You changed root's shell to bash! >>> bash uses libintl, and will be invoked by the "su -m $ppp_user" in >>> /etc/rc.d/ppp >>> >>> Yet another good reason not to change root's default shell :D >>> >>> cheers, >>> Ruben >>> >>> >>> >>>> Ruben de Groot wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 06:20:00PM +1000, Alex R typed: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>>> >>>>>> I ran into the same problem as this person did (see the link below): >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-net@freebsd.org/msg24337.html >>>>>> >>>>>> ppp starts fine if invoked from shell prompt, however the problem above >>>>>> occurs for me when I attempt to start it automatically at boot via >>>>>> /etc/rc.conf >>>>>> >>>>>> Funnily enough, the solution presented in that article seems to fix the >>>>>> issue.. But why? This problem is very easy to reproduce, how could it >>>>>> have been overlooked? I just happened to find the article in the link >>>>>> above, out of desperation, it's not good that I had to Google for a >>>>>> solution. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> What's the output of the command >>>>> >>>>> ldd `which su` >>>>> >>>>> ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Is the solution given "safe"? Should I open a PR? >>>>>> >>>>>> Alex >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 15:50:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FEB5106568F for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:50:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seklecki@noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us) Received: from mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.72.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACC48FC4D for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.161] ([206.210.89.202]) by mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (StrongMail Enterprise 4.1.1.4(4.1.1.4-47689)); Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:28:43 -0400 X-VirtualServerGroup: Default X-MailingID: 00000::00000::00000::00000::::2 X-SMHeaderMap: mid="X-MailingID" X-Destination-ID: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-SMFBL: ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us; s=noc_cfi_pgh_pa_us_key_dkim; l=398; t=1250263723; i=@noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us; h=Subject:From:To:Cc: In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version: X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding; bh=5pvnvDNATbjFZVn3y0sp7zGVA NY=; b=PEyya6dDHNKvmQaSuthC5TNMaLtfKRuwb53EvMDFSeQrRBzIyVP5/YfTy JrfTEysmu3q+3FXClNtgzypM2pX0P5XdjofL0KpJiknUh0pXUv7LiIhX5H5qSfmT fFxd5nT From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: Tim Gustafson In-Reply-To: <1323617427.513901249318108621.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> References: <1323617427.513901249318108621.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:50:19 -0400 Message-Id: <1250265019.2306.35.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 (2.26.3-1.fc11) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:50:22 -0000 On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 09:48 -0700, Tim Gustafson wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if there was a plan or time line in place to support > ZFS boot partitions in the installer. No one has gone near that stuff in years. We don't even have gmirror(8) creation support in there. Best not to use sysinst. The livefs image has all of the tools that you need to bootstrap a system. ~BAS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 15:58:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B50106568D for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:58:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjg@soe.ucsc.edu) Received: from mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.48.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFBF8FC15 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D5B1008A54; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:58:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu Received: from mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rIx2iD0GDiAL; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.48.32]) by mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CEFF10084E3; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Gustafson To: "Brian A. Seklecki" Message-ID: <1001036116.730501250265523013.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> In-Reply-To: <1250265019.2306.35.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [128.114.49.22] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.15_GA_2851.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/5.0.15_GA_2851.RHEL5_64) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:58:43 -0000 > No one has gone near that stuff in years. We don't even > have gmirror(8) creation support in there. Best not to use > sysinst. The livefs image has all of the tools that you > need to bootstrap a system. That's a silly answer. The way to get more people to use FreeBSD is to make the installation process as easy and complete as possible. If bootstrapping a system using the livefs file system is possible, then there's no reason that the functionality couldn't or shouldn't be built into the installer. Yes, a higher-level sysadmin can do it...but the vast majority of people who administer servers for a living are not higher-level sysadmins. Tim Gustafson Baskin School of Engineering UC Santa Cruz tjg@soe.ucsc.edu 831-459-5354 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 16:09:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1159D1065694 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3ED8FC3F for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d14so595997and.13 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:09:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JP9o25PHWPNhyj3q1RiV5Ykub5NLgWBbqoWbehCx4p8=; b=ImSCCaRt9ITij75AR14lfdKxOLmcKprA0P3GphcsmwJ0yw4BM9ndN/6E2b6CLHOcmv OQBWr4875S4XL0kx1SvR06Hl6Mqg2dMNz2ofo3kbJ4e5ai2ns2ansY0/KVVXfsLqTrQN IC8sDCvD8okRvUitbFRETnYYXHN/Pg8QENEXA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qHO3+GIhUsExRq+7T2AaHwHzeIb9bCMqdYTdYHP7r4gmXToVQcEJMDEIMyaGMYBF2g k0UpAGduhY4dQGellRccq2/W2WT/IFpJM3wX4UFc0cDcnw84DroRqU65qtDL0sti/bsX hEiLahaRuADwE7Uxp18n1vOteN+Y9kqUMgE5U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.165.2 with SMTP id s2mr1894921ano.16.1250266193111; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:09:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1001036116.730501250265523013.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> References: <1250265019.2306.35.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> <1001036116.730501250265523013.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:09:52 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Tim Gustafson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:09:54 -0000 On 8/14/09, Tim Gustafson wrote: >> No one has gone near that stuff in years. We don't even >> have gmirror(8) creation support in there. Best not to use >> sysinst. The livefs image has all of the tools that you >> need to bootstrap a system. > > That's a silly answer. The way to get more people to use FreeBSD is to make > the installation process as easy and complete as possible. If bootstrapping > a system using the livefs file system is possible, then there's no reason > that the functionality couldn't or shouldn't be built into the installer. > > Yes, a higher-level sysadmin can do it...but the vast majority of people who > administer servers for a living are not higher-level sysadmins. And those who are unfamiliar with a system will likely use the default filesystem an OS provides. That's UFS2 for most people. Especially since ZFS is still considered experimental, I find it unreasonable to have the installer support something that isn't considered permanent. Also, since ZFS is a hog when it comes to system resources, works best on amd64, and many other factors/tuning, you expect this all to be available if someone wants to install to an embedded firewall? Or to some little special purpose system? I don't use ZFS, UFS2 works fine for me. I would find it ridiculous to see ZFS support in the installer, but all GEOM should be supported. Especially the raid3 and mirror. I think you're expecting the world... Maybe a check is in order. > Tim Gustafson > Baskin School of Engineering > UC Santa Cruz > tjg@soe.ucsc.edu > 831-459-5354 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 16:10:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC6010656B3 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seklecki@noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us) Received: from mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.72.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDEF8FC6E for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.161] ([206.210.89.202]) by mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (StrongMail Enterprise 4.1.1.4(4.1.1.4-47689)); Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:48:45 -0400 X-VirtualServerGroup: Default X-MailingID: 00000::00000::00000::00000::::2 X-SMHeaderMap: mid="X-MailingID" X-Destination-ID: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-SMFBL: ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us; s=noc_cfi_pgh_pa_us_key_dkim; l=439; t=1250264925; i=@noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us; h=Subject:From:To:Cc: In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version: X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding; bh=QTrEMKMY6plt1gnQyFzOUNPNC EM=; b=fbpwIz2nUKTE3OI6SFLocz7y4WR9gSB5JYUzKcp4J66333sCJWOfg+Tjg 2JixYSvt6bY2ZNoO03vmbFATOHWoPhm+veI+RTDCW6ACAd4tbxTV7GiKmUB4BpIi ReKfNVs From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: Tim Gustafson In-Reply-To: <1001036116.730501250265523013.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> References: <1001036116.730501250265523013.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:10:22 -0400 Message-Id: <1250266222.2306.59.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 (2.26.3-1.fc11) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:10:24 -0000 On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 08:58 -0700, Tim Gustafson wrote: > then there's no reason that the functionality couldn't or shouldn't be > built into the installer. With a few machines, yes. Once you get to 5 or 6, start building your own custom internal ISOs, and maintain your configuration templates in SVN or use Puppet. I make the suggestions because you're asking about an advanced topic, so I gave you an honest answer. ~BAS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 16:19:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C689E106568B for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjg@soe.ucsc.edu) Received: from mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.48.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADFC8FC60 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:19:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C471008513 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:19:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu Received: from mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h13EX-ewKJ14 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.48.32]) by mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5916D100845C for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:19:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Gustafson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <995491199.731131250266797279.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> In-Reply-To: <1543078010.731061250266695634.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [128.114.55.126] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.15_GA_2851.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/5.0.15_GA_2851.RHEL5_64) Subject: Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:19:57 -0000 I'm responding to two people's comments here in one response. :) > From: "Brian A. Seklecki" > I make the suggestions because you're asking about an > advanced topic, so I gave you an honest answer. Honest answers are appreciated. :) I'm not saying that the way you suggested was invalid, just that there ought to be an "easier" way. > From: "Tim Judd" > And those who are unfamiliar with a system will likely use > the default filesystem an OS provides. That's UFS2 for most > people. For "most people", yes. Most people don't need to be able to install FreeBSD over a serial cable or parallel cable, but those options are included in the installer. > From: "Tim Judd" > Also, since ZFS is a hog when it comes to system resources, > works best on amd64, and many other factors/tuning, you expect > this all to be available if someone wants to install to an > embedded firewall? Or to some little special purpose system? It already is available to everyone...it's just harder to install than it ought to be. A firewall probably doesn't need X11, but that's included in the installer. > From: "Tim Judd" > I don't use ZFS, UFS2 works fine for me. I would find it > ridiculous to see ZFS support in the installer, but all GEOM > should be supported. Especially the raid3 and mirror. So, you like the idea of including RAID3 and mirror because that suits your needs, but my desire to see ZFS support is unreasonable because you don't have a need for ZFS? Tim Gustafson Baskin School of Engineering UC Santa Cruz tjg@soe.ucsc.edu 831-459-5354 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 16:24:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035E71065692 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f198.google.com (mail-px0-f198.google.com [209.85.216.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2548FC43 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:24:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi36 with SMTP id 36so342869pxi.7 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:24:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8RPbjBeoIOgmTUjJpkMRx/sPceIPn3pW0DvuNZYX2i4=; b=mJzjjQT8YnoIhCh9QwfYNIG0e/hd4hVOZDtNvZPA2sd6n4QV+qsVk00TBzalKAM1jI aleMSMvQ1UtuByQrirrUl6m7g3BZx5mKYsZxXvziBciJiW+B9hgD2unDQxnwfNPdMKn9 oHWHtzCjpzCVVRPpVGu3L6R7lilFVRIywPNTU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WMED0s/WqYcoQ97kpmuXsLXVQc5OW4UtgLbkbzhyzdX4aclojCRMYKTG8ro2PqVWV5 5roqtFZUGvTFEdbmZy5As1i6o20c95ukZhYD5/7TXZhtZteHYb7By2c7jWgdT0Ef7lOk EbHt/IVA0e6Tq1nFsKCJv0me0b1v9GlxcRcPA= Received: by 10.115.109.19 with SMTP id l19mr2013295wam.45.1250267077480; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.78? ([122.163.191.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m31sm2365782wag.31.2009.08.14.09.24.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A858FC0.8030804@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:54:32 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: steve@ibctech.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: A question for developers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:24:38 -0000 Hi Steve, > Vim also does colours/syntax highlighting I found, but quickly disabled > the colours, as I didn't like them as much as I thought I would. I wouldn't blame you for not liking Vim's default syntax highlighting. However, you can try the my set instead which took me days to fine-tune to my liking. (But first, put the following line into your .vimrc : map :syntax on :so ~/syntax.vim Then after starting gvim, press F12. That's the wat I do it.) ~/syntax.vim contents : hi Cursor guifg=white guibg=black hi Identifier guifg=black gui=bold hi NonText guibg=grey72 "black hi Normal guifg=black hi Statement guifg=black hi shFunction guifg=black gui=bold "grey30 hi Comment guifg=grey30 hi shCommandSub guifg=grey30 gui=bold "red hi Constant guifg=red hi Directory guifg=red hi cFormat guifg=red gui=bold "light-brown hi shSpecial guifg=#b07030 hi SpecialKey guifg=#b07030 hi shOption guifg=#b07030 hi shCase guifg=#b07030 "green hi Special guifg=#007700 gui=bold hi shExprRegion guifg=#007700 gui=bold hi PreProc guifg=#007700 gui=bold hi Statement guifg=#007700 gui=bold hi Repeat guifg=#007700 gui=bold hi shRepeat guifg=#007700 gui=bold hi shConditional guifg=#007700 gui=bold hi shStatement guifg=#007700 gui=bold "deep-blue hi Type guifg=#000099 gui=bold hi shShellVariables guifg=#000099 hi shVariable guifg=#000099 "muddy brown hi String guifg=#dd4400 hi shString guifg=#dd4400 "black on yellow hi IncSearch guibg=yellow guifg=black hi Search guibg=yellow guifg=black hi Question guibg=yellow guifg=black "other hi Operator guifg=#0088ee gui=bold "blue hi shOperator guifg=#0088ee gui=bold hi StorageClass guifg=#bb0099 gui=bold "purplish hi SpecialChar guifg=#00aa88 gui=bold "greenish cyan -- Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-96500-10329 Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 16:26:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E70F106568C for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:26:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7526C8FC59 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14702 invoked by uid 89); 14 Aug 2009 16:26:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 14 Aug 2009 16:26:35 -0000 Message-ID: <4A85903C.80007@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:26:36 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Garrett References: <1323617427.513901249318108621.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> <970380130908041405x3064f4fet84205e078245f67d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <970380130908041405x3064f4fet84205e078245f67d@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms030402030401090709030109" Cc: Tim Gustafson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:26:32 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030402030401090709030109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jason Garrett wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:48, Tim Gustafson wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I was wondering if there was a plan or time line in place to support ZFS >> boot partitions in the installer. I Googled around a bit and found some >> how-to documents for setting it up in a hacky kind of way, but the >> impression I got is that support for ZFS partitions is coming to the >> installer in perhaps 7.3 or 8.0, and I wanted to confirm or dispel that myth >> before I go forward using the hacky method. > > > I wouldn't recommend using zfs at all right now, unless you want random > crashes and lots of missing data.. ESPECIALLY in 8.0,1,2 versions. Do you have significant, long-term experience with "random crashes and lots of missing data"? I have nothing but good things to say about ZFS. I've been using it since 7.0, and one box in particular is put under extreme duress doing network backups daily. Since originally tuned, it has been just as stable as any other box we own. This particular box is configured as Tim's is in another post he wrote (7.2, RAIDZ, boot from UFS flash), and writes at ~160MBps for 6-8 consecutive hours per day. What I would recommend is if you go with -CURRENT and boot from ZFS on a box going into production, ensure that you have very up-to-date backups, stored in a method in which you could very quickly replicate onto another box in case of emergency. 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(ool-182fcc8b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.204.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 26sm155954aga.64.2009.08.14.09.40.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A855B91.1010707@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:41:53 +0000 From: Eitan Adler User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: bwi driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:40:14 -0000 I have a Lenovo G530 laptop with a broadcom wireless card. I downloaded the drivers referenced here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=170 I installed them and loaded them. However pciconf -lv|grep bwi produces no output and ifconfig does not mention any wireless cards. What should I try now? -- Eitan Adler "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." -Jakob Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 16:45:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C45106564A for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:45:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27398FC3F for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:45:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so2119836yxe.3 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:45:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4wPJWyQLYqp89T+vSQXsCHz7++ZMH8XvFdwr+o09gT0=; b=ppCSC/OY4aKEbvEGd1i4v7lLNnHbNite0k9FIvM+Dlj79g45zHAPhE0PU7uMgFiyxk QIfyR9rBRwDK9moEitVQUdiiyJYZOzcnJ35vahC0NcOVU+plAuIjynOjnME2JuCJuT0v leTVcfAmgYgI8k/aaASsjaUhPwxNnRelnXBtY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=szLxWgDOQ/41Bhw/eY1Gt9N4mj+NejZ84DO5DZY1mGYX+lP6FJCc5ZYIHU5vhRfRta iSSPo4BARuHBD/s5KHyMKsb5qLaTHURy7nnqgviaQAVny3D6y6ZTb1UUWMVffmYyZEPa taKwkS5Ar7cPu4ffBMjGoq9/dthNHSntoDVxA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.102.16 with SMTP id e16mr1896514anm.84.1250268354232; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:45:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <995491199.731131250266797279.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> References: <1543078010.731061250266695634.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> <995491199.731131250266797279.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:45:54 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Tim Gustafson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:45:56 -0000 On 8/14/09, Tim Gustafson wrote: >> From: "Tim Judd" >> I don't use ZFS, UFS2 works fine for me. I would find it >> ridiculous to see ZFS support in the installer, but all GEOM >> should be supported. Especially the raid3 and mirror. > > So, you like the idea of including RAID3 and mirror because that suits your > needs, but my desire to see ZFS support is unreasonable because you don't > have a need for ZFS? Valid point. I didn't make the clarification that I should have. graid3 and gmirror have reached the maturity and dedicated to the system, whereas ZFS is still experimental. When ZFS is no longer considered experimental, I would expect ZFS support in the installer in the same expectation I am expecting graid3 and gmirror to be. It's all about the status of ZFS itself, rather than the fact that it works. Does this paint a better picture to you of what I forgot to clarify in my original posting? > > Tim Gustafson > Baskin School of Engineering > UC Santa Cruz > tjg@soe.ucsc.edu > 831-459-5354 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 16:49:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC78C106568B for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from seklecki@noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us) Received: from mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.72.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB0C8FC59 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:49:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.161] ([206.210.89.202]) by mx04.pub.collaborativefusion.com (StrongMail Enterprise 4.1.1.4(4.1.1.4-47689)); Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:27:26 -0400 X-VirtualServerGroup: Default X-MailingID: 00000::00000::00000::00000::::3 X-SMHeaderMap: mid="X-MailingID" X-Destination-ID: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-SMFBL: ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us; s=noc_cfi_pgh_pa_us_key_dkim; l=545; t=1250267246; i=@noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us; h=Subject:From:To:Cc: In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version: X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding; bh=ijv1LGePo8Az9kLNQi5MXkXlH ng=; b=dnae0BGar1op5DCf0UuuJkU/f7IeMPgZAXZTSCk5/MptvyIobkxyUVB1q EOAEj7t999lXKHV6gzhZnlvjBmq91dEso+VuT5b2X8ysKLWJbzqisR06O5tecf9y pGtHTk1 From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: Eitan Adler In-Reply-To: <4A855B91.1010707@gmail.com> References: <4A855B91.1010707@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:49:03 -0400 Message-Id: <1250268543.2306.111.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 (2.26.3-1.fc11) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bwi driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:49:06 -0000 On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 12:41 +0000, Eitan Adler wrote: > I have a Lenovo G530 laptop with a broadcom wireless card. > I downloaded the drivers referenced here: If the driver didn't attach because IBM chose some exotic OEM PCI ID, then the grep wont find it. You really should post the full pciconf(8) and dmesg(8) for us, as well as kldstat(8) -v. uname(1) -a would also be helpful. ~BAS > However pciconf -lv|grep bwi produces no output and ifconfig does not > mention any wireless cards. > > What should I try now? > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 16:49:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42EE4106568C for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19728FC4B for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:49:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so2122798yxe.3 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:49:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YLxB+cW4eOErM1XubM+SoFIHcEqcmqz4ij2YVRBmTOQ=; b=C2yJKrwGO4cF4dY4xCvjvH9mPqq+1W+8LsBGUq63tsPJk8aQlmHkXVjOKqA8bjhJRN 5mCNLu+AJElq0Mh5YtUaj1tepcIeu2TFDN/8vfcAjth7xrVNUa55PVKfMxRdVjP6B+F7 gAZBV0GzF/JT9EAO7oVBwMF1WmjimJaa1OhRM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EXVJFO8CRVlyikzmVFRFRof7vOSLHenk2anifmLJZ9WROrsHLuVVWhWyLCXCE4XQUr qu1iC4IVIhUrvPk5oSATqDDhqgUQqYFPMjx2eQFL5FprMz5sZs2sV7TaR4i5hpaFL71q wk/IkHZdZjnT/hd4hbTQQbcm5eLeSBVL8FIN4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.45.14 with SMTP id x14mr2823935ybj.47.1250268547104; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:49:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A855B91.1010707@gmail.com> References: <4A855B91.1010707@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:49:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bwi driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:49:08 -0000 On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Eitan Adler wrote: > I have a Lenovo G530 laptop with a broadcom wireless card. > I downloaded the drivers referenced here: > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=170 > I installed them and loaded them. > > However pciconf -lv|grep bwi produces no output and ifconfig does not > mention any wireless cards. > > What should I try now? man iwconfig man lspci > > > -- > Eitan Adler > "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." > -Jakob Nielsen > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 16:52:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C206E106568C for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tjg@soe.ucsc.edu) Received: from mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.48.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79128FC3F for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8F01008496; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:52:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu Received: from mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OeW1XXmGg0CQ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu [128.114.48.32]) by mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF3D1008468; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:52:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Gustafson To: Tim Judd Message-ID: <986779423.732011250268754121.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> In-Reply-To: <123928128.731931250268470603.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [128.114.49.22] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.15_GA_2851.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/5.0.15_GA_2851.RHEL5_64) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:52:34 -0000 > Valid point. I didn't make the clarification that I should > have. graid3 and gmirror have reached the maturity and > dedicated to the system, whereas ZFS is still experimental. > When ZFS is no longer considered experimental, I would expect > ZFS support in the installer in the same expectation I am > expecting graid3 and gmirror to be. > > It's all about the status of ZFS itself, rather than the fact > that it works. Your point is also valid. However, our experience with ZFS on the boxes that we have installed it has been nothing but positive since about 7.2, and Steve Bertrand has also posted that his experiences have been nothing but positive. I know that ZFS on FreeBSD hasn't gotten a "stable" rating yet, but it appears to be approaching that level and I don't think putting it in the installer (and perhaps marking it as "beta") so that more people could test it and give feedback about bugs and their experiences would be a bad thing. To be clear, ZFS itself is indeed stable - our Solaris file servers are running it in multi-terabyte configurations on servers that get pounded to the order of nearly saturating a 1GB LAN link. ZFS is the only file system in our experience that has suffered no data losses in arrays with more than one terabyte (knock on wood). All other file systems have failed disastrously for us in multi-terabyte configurations. So what you're talking about is not the stability of ZFS itself, but the port of ZFS on FreeBSD. > Does this paint a better picture to you of what I forgot to > clarify in my original posting? Yes, clarity is key. Thanks! :) Tim Gustafson Baskin School of Engineering UC Santa Cruz tjg@soe.ucsc.edu 831-459-5354 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 17:00:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A99106564A for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5F28FC15 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:00:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so2132782yxe.3 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:00:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2EpUlx2321rf43Ww26XOK8BdU+zG1T1w/wY97QoxgMs=; b=Ix8TzJXR8wfUKudDCYANtq4dOvgIe5SXx0dvh5JEaY6DsEpsgQZvnp1zqgYGdWSMEU 4AHSsMg010h8s2HqElXGFFhTc0TvjK5lim11Vh2hI5vMOrgXmUckuZpj7yCwWSA2rOYu vNvpuUfuxalREeSxIwMq2ExgnJYlP4Wp9CfZ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cEQzJB79HiYVn0/vwkvdSw2ToWWwjO9YfraHXeFavrVQKBLwyg0i2uGJPBphQVOr11 TThq9V8VDLFjQgEWvo4yZF50HPmHSnIX1R8vymEjF+uGJOiSb1IZRFzpCD7t40oLO0t0 H3DOssbfy9mjgnke3bE5NaeQD38lFPCySCHd8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.165.2 with SMTP id s2mr1931759ano.16.1250269202846; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:00:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <986779423.732011250268754121.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> References: <123928128.731931250268470603.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> <986779423.732011250268754121.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:00:02 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Tim Gustafson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:00:04 -0000 On 8/14/09, Tim Gustafson wrote: >> Valid point. I didn't make the clarification that I should >> have. graid3 and gmirror have reached the maturity and >> dedicated to the system, whereas ZFS is still experimental. >> When ZFS is no longer considered experimental, I would expect >> ZFS support in the installer in the same expectation I am >> expecting graid3 and gmirror to be. >> >> It's all about the status of ZFS itself, rather than the fact >> that it works. > > Your point is also valid. However, our experience with ZFS on the boxes > that we have installed it has been nothing but positive since about 7.2, and > Steve Bertrand has also posted that his experiences have been nothing but > positive. I know that ZFS on FreeBSD hasn't gotten a "stable" rating yet, > but it appears to be approaching that level and I don't think putting it in > the installer (and perhaps marking it as "beta") so that more people could > test it and give feedback about bugs and their experiences would be a bad > thing. > > To be clear, ZFS itself is indeed stable - our Solaris file servers are > running it in multi-terabyte configurations on servers that get pounded to > the order of nearly saturating a 1GB LAN link. ZFS is the only file system > in our experience that has suffered no data losses in arrays with more than > one terabyte (knock on wood). All other file systems have failed > disastrously for us in multi-terabyte configurations. So what you're > talking about is not the stability of ZFS itself, but the port of ZFS on > FreeBSD. Exactly. I've used ZFS once, on the box that could benefit from it most. It's a Dell PowerVault 715n NAS, which runs BSD very solid. i386 Pentium 3 @1GHZ, and 1GB RAM. This is back on 7.0 days, and I haven't run it since. I didn't loose any data, because the data on the ZFS was unimportant data that could be lost. It did freak out and panic when I was copying an ISO to/from it. I know that somewhere in 7.2 there was some tuning recommendations on i386, and that 8.0 has an updated version of ZFS that I will run again to try it out. I don't have any amd64 (none!) systems, so this box has to be tortured to be able to even experiment with ZFS. > >> Does this paint a better picture to you of what I forgot to >> clarify in my original posting? > > Yes, clarity is key. Thanks! :) > > Tim Gustafson > Baskin School of Engineering > UC Santa Cruz > tjg@soe.ucsc.edu > 831-459-5354 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 17:13:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D681106568B for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04CA38FC4D for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 16455 invoked by uid 89); 14 Aug 2009 17:13:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 14 Aug 2009 17:13:14 -0000 Message-ID: <4A859B2A.4040708@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:13:14 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manish Jain References: <4A858FC0.8030804@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4A858FC0.8030804@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms050204030606040200000202" Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: A question for developers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:13:09 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050204030606040200000202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Manish Jain wrote: > Hi Steve, > >> Vim also does colours/syntax highlighting I found, but quickly disabled >> the colours, as I didn't like them as much as I thought I would. > > I wouldn't blame you for not liking Vim's default syntax highlighting. > However, you can try the my set instead which took me days to fine-tune > to my liking. Thanks much for the info Manish! The best I can tell, your colour scheme file is for GUI. Is this correct? (it doesn't change my console to your colour scheme... it remains default when I enable syntax). With that said, I can tell that what you provided me with is much better than the default. I'll play around this afternoon and see what I can come up with. Cheers! 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Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:19:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net) Received: from mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E0388FC3D for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smoochies.rachie.is-a-geek.net (mailhub.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.11]) by mailhub.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4517E853; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:19:52 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel Flynn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 09:19:50 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/8.0-BETA2; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4A855B91.1010707@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908140919.51639.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Cc: Neal Hogan Subject: Re: bwi driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:19:54 -0000 On Friday 14 August 2009 08:49:07 Neal Hogan wrote: > man lspci ?? wrong "distribution". Try pciconf. -- Mel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 17:22:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45890106568C for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:22:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f227.google.com (mail-gx0-f227.google.com [209.85.217.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0117B8FC43 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk27 with SMTP id 27so2057551gxk.12 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:22:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tm5K1rbNpnHOxPDggsl50NWrzeT3pWf/8kyucoI0pAU=; b=s7erNe2SowBFNsd6H4yBc1gg6uWCPIjuQkE2Pn/oa8AdhiAkm7GMSvMnD505HUqGoO v7Vo4Do1fZt7ifs+v8P4nK1cXzUZSKyFFWvhsiMQF10IzfZ16K21AzHG6VKPPeX4nG9x 1w3ZxvCrCGxU8i7TupoxpmnDg7jvx7n0cAxKI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=I25G5kvZLoIqSXWO5mZZCwbq5ambOo/EYAJCcaQPAXf1xn02pbwqrhz5R9QpCmqBU9 5GMZHxWmoaDA9Mz2YWc6OEq33qqQC6IeRlUev8bkppR2gtsnb0vr0E3j38ob6QxlkLWl 8RN6TpG2yTW3ky1Qb7kmsjdBh3q6WUYOSHqDg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.86.15 with SMTP id o15mr2755533ybl.193.1250270520293; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:22:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200908140919.51639.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <4A855B91.1010707@gmail.com> <200908140919.51639.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:22:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan To: Mel Flynn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bwi driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:22:01 -0000 On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Mel Flynn wrote: > On Friday 14 August 2009 08:49:07 Neal Hogan wrote: > >> man lspci > ?? wrong "distribution". Try pciconf. Ah . . . sorry, got mixed up with mailing lists. Thanks for correcting me! > > -- > Mel > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 17:36:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6C0106568D for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nealhogan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0F88FC52 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:36:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so2164896yxe.3 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:36:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=y9SQ6A70+2Y+FnLJwXIw8qi7COEk2UFyXXkV67tbM0o=; b=SRmSddeQfSdnkCHt+/bT6HLzV7Z0LWv4lZj0hS7XqFQtSd1OM22ySQQffoxY7w+su8 NRhytoD7dnWi61yy8uFSGqDP6bMETuZQT0CuVD7yd+fGH61hgFSKshqigtVWRRGBfzEZ Ug9/RRkEiab+fXTA4I+ieYATFODLuo7/ZVPCc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jlYit0BtbDW9tkyq34o/nloMVC1hCM34AtlMXfhDg1J3tvXp5i1ooUOF9x8k7jYXLW iUN0VttTvERAXAYzEWpcWYYxddOu7IAkKmGGCPq38KBkjgWrVBT7mUO94zdilECY8vMC etUEfkyxFVa4WP+PmdpQ9p8+qrg936q4h5rZU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.145.21 with SMTP id x21mr2779389ybn.345.1250271364222; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:36:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4A855B91.1010707@gmail.com> <200908140919.51639.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:36:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: Neal Hogan Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bwi driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:36:05 -0000 On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Neal Hogan wrote: > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Mel > Flynn wrote: >> On Friday 14 August 2009 08:49:07 Neal Hogan wrote: >> >>> man lspci > > >> ?? wrong "distribution". Try pciconf. > > Ah . . . sorry, got mixed up with mailing lists. Thanks for correcting me! BTW - The same goes for iwconfig > >> >> -- >> Mel >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 17:37:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2D2106568D for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:37:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5A68FC5A for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:37:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxe11 with SMTP id 11so2166102yxe.3 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:37:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=C+YVwvQPFsXpRnSMuJz8lKdUkktQcm5z7/PpKz43Wrc=; b=oien8zrpEFgAzppRBpFlHk1GD0Gavfb8L58nQ6RJfIBWz9D3it2CyphohI9s5taMmL ciSAPzn0HCHIFzr7LtIz50mL4R2+B1W4q6k8jMJNFCm8vgtj4mkODJnWaDSQyXK66Vid 24nhILNuWd/+FXBWZrqFbwOJzgqeT5A9XQ4HM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=rDkNMyvya1DhV8Mi2rB+x1s8Psz5I5JM8qsEGI4DDFEK0JoNrAGLuVwXuAY37HvPEG 5+S9debjM2Y53+fsKxI6nNoGAQznAvxftyoKxpBjXSwtbbaICQwRWu4FfHSTXQ2wVii+ vkrTG07mJ1ztoJ5rPnhVVxGCdKKNPmFJ/kg6A= Received: by 10.90.173.8 with SMTP id v8mr1198227age.98.1250271442608; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? (ool-182fcc8b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.204.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm87519agc.47.2009.08.14.10.37.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A8568F6.90109@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 13:39:02 +0000 From: Eitan Adler User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: seklecki@noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us References: <4A855B91.1010707@gmail.com> <1250268543.2306.111.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <1250268543.2306.111.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bwi driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:37:23 -0000 > You really should post the full pciconf(8) and dmesg(8) for us, as well > as kldstat(8) -v. http://pastebin.com/f368e0550 http://pastebin.com/f7d5f883d http://pastebin.com/f7500570e http://pastebin.com/f606e2c81 -- Eitan Adler "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." -Jakob Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 18:23:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F6A106568D for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:23:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51098FC45 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:23:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so973095ewy.43 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:23:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=t/2WL69ZhnlxZ/GuBxGF9F7JzXc2LY9W8RDRsoXC548=; b=D5SjOE66ZwTCm08Da+mn1BrF+cGsWdeAuSmmxUbDzMTWn3klW8ItYlPhjgOIIBZvzM ylaPENO1burwdZ7nZe8HHAuwIC9uhSxGnEl0dcBox0dV4+eZdJMtmNc9zZ/awnCfQCKw +YPX5xJvIQbnpohsBCHD5boSh5ABaX/tggiiw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=xC0Vo9wGghoEO0dTSNT1nNbhjkghpmNZgo+mH6mYuc6Ue4/zfhTOoCSEzZMLYq0wvZ Hszo5PyHAi/AlcwGVFkglnOiQOZ9DwKT9dWGvCVbgmaVYGUaPeJIenXUZhFGeVpjonWM w9QAH88IFh/s+LQeiHUk/loiUAn4QwW6us9wY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.89.7 with SMTP id m7mr1224512ebb.14.1250274229799; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 20:23:49 +0200 Message-ID: <1bd550a00908141123l2b51d36byc7c54395d717c9@mail.gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 7.2 burncd and cdrecord problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:23:51 -0000 Hi all, I'm trying to get my CD drive to work without so much success. Reading is fine, but when I try to burn a CD I get errors in dmesg. Using cdrecord -blank=fast dev=3,0,0 I get: [...] Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-ROM driver (mmc_cd). Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 18 in real BLANK mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write 0 seconds. Operation starts. This drive or media does not support the 'BLANK media' command cdrecord: Cannot blank disk, aborting. cdrecord: Some drives do not support all blank types. cdrecord: Try again with cdrecord blank=all. And dmesg shows: acd0: FAILURE - READ_BUFFER ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00 acd0: FAILURE - MODE_SELECT_BIG ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x26 ascq=0x00 Using burncd blank I get: burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCBLANK): Input/output error and in dmesg: acd0: FAILURE - BLANK_CMD ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x30 ascq=0x05 The drive works perfectly with other OS, so I don't think the hardware is the problem. The device is identified as: acd0: DVDR at ata3-master SATA150 I have scbus, atapicd and atapicam in my kernel configuration. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 19:31:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B30106568F for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:31:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricky.breaky@uni.de) Received: from server30738.isdg.de (web3.uni.de [84.19.163.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C58C8FC5A for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fm-ip-118.136.26.153.fast.net.id ([118.136.26.153] helo=mandreev) by server30738.isdg.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MbuBe-0004a1-Mv for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:39:07 +0200 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:39:17 +0700 From: Ricky Tompu Breaky To: "questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20090814173917.14de7572@mandreev> Organization: Hagen Universitaet X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: ATI Radeon HD3450 on FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:31:52 -0000 Dear my friends, I just installed FreeBSD 7.2. But its xserver always hung-up (suddenly stop working), only the GUI which suddenly stops working once I execute: " startx ". I can see the GUI but I can not do anything on it. I can not click anything and I can not type nothing on it. My computer use ATI Radeon HD3450. But the kernel still works as the xserver stops working because if I do "CTRL-Alt-F1/F2/F3/F?" then I can see the login prompt console. What should I do to solve this problem? Thank you very much in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 19:35:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C9D1065672 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:35:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com (mail-bw0-f219.google.com [209.85.218.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB8A8FC52 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:35:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so1738859bwz.37 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:35:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FtZzXFXG1Fj98kEXA5Gz0Wz4EocHzK/QzMv1oCK0PEI=; b=pRbQxzg26MEeWPmX4eQ7avAcStvxfCjLJ5C4WmX370z6xIAH4XzG+KpaSc0063B8kc HciGJC+TplNLWk/NEWPnYmAh7elOAlfYc823TIzWxymvzIvsYFl4RpSwzKeI5ApZmZUD YO7ZqkiFq2rYWuj5CYEULsRF9GT7MYOht5ZJI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WWO2dsbnWPsPuxagDhJ0V9S0u2rAhUAgkOPydn/KQ45yxqxrssgts4JpCQBKB5BjpR ZmSpaoO0PJphUAZ47w4tkVzI6xKXJg2qrrw9t8yjllwvwtyZGn3SadMYwOQw3F2FDS0g AD7mh88e9lSambEUrDg2C8JWOfVvg2yl+kNRA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.110.198 with SMTP id o6mr591086fap.76.1250278537812; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:35:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090814173917.14de7572@mandreev> References: <20090814173917.14de7572@mandreev> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:35:37 -0400 Message-ID: <4ad871310908141235j47a71372n45f9d02cc60c77ee@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Ricky Tompu Breaky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: ATI Radeon HD3450 on FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:35:39 -0000 Hi, On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote: > Dear my friends, > > I just installed FreeBSD 7.2. But its xserver always hung-up (suddenly > stop working), only the GUI which suddenly stops working once I execute: > " > startx > ". > I can see the GUI but I can not do anything on it. I can not click > anything and I can not type nothing on it. > > My computer use ATI Radeon HD3450. > > But the kernel still works as the xserver stops working because if I do > "CTRL-Alt-F1/F2/F3/F?" then I can see the login prompt console. > > What should I do to solve this problem? > I added the following to xorg.conf to fix the problems I had: Section "ServerFlags" option "AutoAddDevices" "off" option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" EndSection Have a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING regarding the Xorg update. HTH -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 23:02:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F640106568B for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:02:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609638FC3D for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:02:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03CD1DF03; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:02:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7EN2qqm001514; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:02:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:02:52 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Leonardo M. =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ram=E9?=" Message-Id: <20090815010252.ede9bccb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <775149.32518.qm@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <775149.32518.qm@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More on Toshiba A305 SP6926A X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:02:55 -0000 On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:12:24 -0700 (PDT), Leonardo M. Ram=E9 wrote: > A new issue I found is I can't control screen brightness &=20 > contrast. This machine has this control in Windows by clicking > the [FN Key]+F6/F7. Erm, you are *clicking* the keys on the keyboard? With the mouse? Would you explain how you do this? :-) Polite / almost technical answer follows: > Does anyone knows how to enable this in FreeBsd? Traditionally, those functionalities - Fn + PFx in order to change some "hardware setting" like brightness, contrast, volume, CRT / LCD and others - are not the subject to the OS, they are much more "lower level". It's completely possible that those functionalities require an OS specific driver (ugh) in order to work correctly. I mean, even a simple switch isn't part of the earphone socket anymore: If you want to use the earphones, there needs to be software (double-ugh) that switches off the internal speakers... by the way, we're talking about a little piece of metal here. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 00:47:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21AA8106568D for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:47:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com (mail-yw0-f199.google.com [209.85.211.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9638FC41 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so2733498ywh.28 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:47:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=U/dudIharkEmNeZZ0NPkv3Mv2ZJ8JlMJDn5hfbEP4Ks=; b=LWX2oeex+5D3gZbftVlTDyoySeeA3EB3SPTbt5IIAVl1SYiJ3+TMBSSr/SJ3AIJINT SuIfRy6qt29Zn1KFZwVlPMKluuRbSlsP9Vn8y4xZKgwT6X9/9EFJpSjPQEf5uR+NvrDN dEYqXRomtO0SpIZUrytt8NYziYpQHmAxFT9CI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KhtWIyY9GsulpAP6QO/GOqp6lBqvoXoX29CvvmPyFXHRTjAlHV0j80l/lswMmaBcF9 KFLOxPwGRv51fGFnXTA2ZF+S2OCUuyvCmLc4q8i6tbIo2BxGgAEHOr8z8+YZxcL5cGCy EqON6RVYEBBTh+Bi25+S6BGQspfyfwlJfVVjU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.85.10 with SMTP id n10mr2146296anl.156.1250297268267; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:47:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1bd550a00908141123l2b51d36byc7c54395d717c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <1bd550a00908141123l2b51d36byc7c54395d717c9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:47:48 -0600 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: 7.2 burncd and cdrecord problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:47:49 -0000 First thing I'd suspect is that your drive is a read-only, write-only, but no rewrite, so that means it's unable to blank RW medium. The 'DVDR' and CDDVDW both indicate a write once kind of mindset. does the bezel on the drive itself say rewrite anywhere? --TJ On 8/14/09, Fernando Apestegu=EDa wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm trying to get my CD drive to work without so much success. > Reading is fine, but when I try to burn a CD I get errors in dmesg. > > Using cdrecord -blank=3Dfast dev=3D3,0,0 I get: > > [...] > Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-ROM driver (mmc_cd). > Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE > Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R9= 6R > Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 18 in real BLANK mode for single sessio= n. > Last chance to quit, starting real write 0 seconds. Operation starts. > This drive or media does not support the 'BLANK media' command > cdrecord: Cannot blank disk, aborting. > cdrecord: Some drives do not support all blank types. > cdrecord: Try again with cdrecord blank=3Dall. > > And dmesg shows: > acd0: FAILURE - READ_BUFFER ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=3D0x24 ascq=3D0x00 > acd0: FAILURE - MODE_SELECT_BIG ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=3D0x26 ascq=3D0x00 > > Using burncd blank I get: > > burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCBLANK): Input/output error > > and in dmesg: > > acd0: FAILURE - BLANK_CMD ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=3D0x30 ascq=3D0x05 > > The drive works perfectly with other OS, so I don't think the hardware > is the problem. > > The device is identified as: > acd0: DVDR at ata3-master SATA150 > > I have scbus, atapicd and atapicam in my kernel configuration. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks in advance. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 00:52:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6D4106568C for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:52:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D33A8FC3D for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:52:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFB61DD2A; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:52:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7F0pxkM001866; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:51:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:51:59 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Tim Judd Message-Id: <20090815025159.ce41132a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <1bd550a00908141123l2b51d36byc7c54395d717c9@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions , Fernando =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Apestegu=EDa?= Subject: Re: 7.2 burncd and cdrecord problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:52:01 -0000 On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:47:48 -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > First thing I'd suspect is that your drive is a read-only, write-only, > but no rewrite, so that means it's unable to blank RW medium. > > The 'DVDR' and CDDVDW both indicate a write once kind of mindset. > > > does the bezel on the drive itself say rewrite anywhere? Check the output of % cdrecord -prcap dev=3,0,0 which will list what the drive does support. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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(CPE-65-29-54-222.wi.res.rr.com [65.29.54.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm4754392qwj.36.2009.08.14.19.22.01 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:22:02 -0700 (PDT) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:21:51 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908142121.51522.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: Re:firefox 2.0.0.20_9,1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:22:03 -0000 firefox 2.0.0.20_9,1 Paul Schmehl pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com Thu Aug 13 02:16:24 UTC 2009 Previous message: firefox 2.0.0.20_9,1 Next message: firefox 2.0.0.20_9,1 Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] --On August 12, 2009 8:18:55 PM -0500 ajtiM wrote: > > Hi! > When I run > > > ; > portaudit -a > Affected package: firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1 > Type of problem: mozilla -- multiple vulnerabilities. > Reference: > > > but when I check above site I found: > Affects: > firefox <3.*,1 > firefox >3.*,1 <3.0.13,1 > firefox >3.5.*,1 <3.5.2,1 > linux-firefox <3.*,1 > linux-firefox >3.*,1 <3.0.13,1 > linux-firefox >3.5.*,1 <3.5.2,1 > linux-firefox-devel <3.5.2 > seamonkey >0 > linux-seamonkey >0 > linux-seamonkey-devel >0 > thunderbird >0 > linux-thunderbird >0 > > Are problem with firefox-2.0.0.20_9,1 or not, please. That port should probably be removed. It's ancient. Use /usr/ports/www/firefox3 or /usr/ports/www/firefox3.5 Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ****************************************** WARNING: Check the headers before replying I agree but for example if you want to install mplayer-plugin there are dependencies for firefox and you will have 2.0 again your disk. -- Mitja ----- http://starikarp.redbubble.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 06:39:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62712106568C for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:39:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baerks@t-online.de) Received: from mailout04.t-online.de (mailout04.t-online.de [194.25.134.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BAB8FC4D for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:39:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fwd07.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.t-online.de with smtp id 1McCe1-0001fZ-00; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:21:37 +0200 Received: from amd.catfish.ddns.org (EY7cQ-ZZQhJOzSnHwPf2mw9jWIirgR6nTfmzeXVLReFkHod9vfxK+wFG9Ud48s1g8V@[79.218.77.237]) by fwd07.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1McCdp-1uECiu0; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:21:25 +0200 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:21:51 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Sabine Baer" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.64 (Linux) X-ID: EY7cQ-ZZQhJOzSnHwPf2mw9jWIirgR6nTfmzeXVLReFkHod9vfxK+wFG9Ud48s1g8V X-TOI-MSGID: e90650d8-82fc-4764-8249-7f140cb9e48d Subject: Re: ATI Radeon HD3450 on FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:39:49 -0000 On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:35:37 +0200, Glen Barber wrote: Hi, On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote: Dear my friends, I just installed FreeBSD 7.2. But its xserver always hung-up (suddenly stop working), only the GUI which suddenly stops working once I execute: " startx ". I can see the GUI but I can not do anything on it. I can not click anything and I can not type nothing on it. My computer use ATI Radeon HD3450. But the kernel still works as the xserver stops working because if I do "CTRL-Alt-F1/F2/F3/F?" then I can see the login prompt console. What should I do to solve this problem? I added the following to xorg.conf to fix the problems I had: Section "ServerFlags" option "AutoAddDevices" "off" option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" EndSection That all didn't work for me. I added hald_enable="NO" dbus_enable="NO" to /etc/rc.conf and InputDevices are still in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Now it seems to work (except for [Ctrl-Alt-Backspace]) Sabine From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 07:11:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59D4106568B for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 07:11:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f198.google.com (mail-px0-f198.google.com [209.85.216.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45118FC16 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 07:11:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi36 with SMTP id 36so535790pxi.7 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:11:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=THa+CxfiLIqzg9GAr361Z578tPITeCSoZRTm3n4wIic=; b=fhJjt4yS0JAMQDXY/uNH8gW/Zb+Icg9P2AMjVkBWCpccwnz/WcP9c0h6QNA+WOefBl HNu8AHBCZWIEcsZyGYbkBmcBdBRNMx9cJCAz4AvHD+IYTgqE/cRqibf7sQHDmipM+SZC RIVbBRi8Ui3lFLreEiJfW0H5I54JedZydAeMY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=SLzD3qG/oOif3yqZSw3jZeaLdOSAVhXnAiM7nxhB5su0G8btDgmQi6vsNRa0+yixvN WjcqqzEcs2KPs1dUVAtuDT+RYVbIbmulC5DzK9fKb86KI3XLMPwjedvVXFzlS376R3iI rE6birhoLd/7sEqDiRD2O+mMInf2QUt+hRYak= Received: by 10.115.32.9 with SMTP id k9mr2573593waj.216.1250320297532; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.78? ([122.163.191.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j15sm3851246waf.16.2009.08.15.00.11.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A865FA5.1070609@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:41:33 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Bertrand References: <4A858FC0.8030804@gmail.com> <4A859B2A.4040708@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <4A859B2A.4040708@ibctech.ca> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030906050500090905030801" Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: A question for developers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 07:11:38 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030906050500090905030801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Bertrand wrote: > Manish Jain wrote: >> Hi Steve, >> >>> Vim also does colours/syntax highlighting I found, but quickly disabled >>> the colours, as I didn't like them as much as I thought I would. >> I wouldn't blame you for not liking Vim's default syntax highlighting. >> However, you can try the my set instead which took me days to fine-tune >> to my liking. > > Thanks much for the info Manish! > > The best I can tell, your colour scheme file is for GUI. Is this > correct? (it doesn't change my console to your colour scheme... it > remains default when I enable syntax). > > With that said, I can tell that what you provided me with is much better > than the default. I'll play around this afternoon and see what I can > come up with. > > Cheers! > > Steve Steve Bertrand wrote: > Manish Jain wrote: >> Hi Steve, >> >>> Vim also does colours/syntax highlighting I found, but quickly disabled >>> the colours, as I didn't like them as much as I thought I would. >> I wouldn't blame you for not liking Vim's default syntax highlighting. >> However, you can try the my set instead which took me days to fine-tune >> to my liking. > > Thanks much for the info Manish! > > The best I can tell, your colour scheme file is for GUI. Is this > correct? (it doesn't change my console to your colour scheme... it > remains default when I enable syntax). > > With that said, I can tell that what you provided me with is much better > than the default. I'll play around this afternoon and see what I can > come up with. > > Cheers! > > Steve Hello Steve, >> The best I can tell, your colour scheme file is for GUI. Is this >> correct? (it doesn't change my console to your colour scheme... it >> remains default when I enable syntax). You are right. Syntax highlighting only works well with X. On the console, to the best of knowledge, there is no way to change the colours through vim's rc files. >> With that said, I can tell that what you provided me with is much better >> than the default. I'll play around this afternoon and see what I can >> come up with. I am really glad you like my colour set. Please pass it on to anyone who might be interested. I do not know what your level of expertise with Vim is. Provided you are or intend to be serious user and that your knowledge is somewhere in the range of beginner to intermediate, I might be able to help a little further. Attached is vimref.txt (in a zip), which I created as a mini-reference for everything I found useful for daily work. Please go through this file AFTER running vim's own tutor. Some lines from my .vimrc which you may find useful : set backspace=2 whichwrap+=<,>,[,] vnoremap d set autoindent set nobackup set nohlsearch set nonumber set ruler set linebreak set wrap set laststatus=2 set tabstop=4 set shiftwidth=4 set noexpandtab set showmode set nocompatible set vb t_vb= set display=lastline set ignorecase set nomodeline And finally, a few lines from my .gvimrc : set columns=98 set lines=49 set font=-b&h-lucidatypewriter-bold-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-m-*-iso8859-15 set guioptions=agimr set vb t_vb= set gcr=a:block-Cursor-blinkwait0 hi Cursor guifg=white guibg=black autocmd GUIEnter * winpos 136 28 syntax off -- Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-96500-10329 Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. 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freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:51:40 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Sabine Baer" Message-Id: <20090815095140.4340d21d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATI Radeon HD3450 on FreeBSD 7.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 07:51:43 -0000 On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:21:51 +0200, "Sabine Baer" wrote: > Now it seems to work (except for [Ctrl-Alt-Backspace]) It now is an additional configuration item that explicitely needs to be configured. Section "ServerFlags" Option "DontZap" "false" EndSection This is what you need to add in order to re-enable it. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 09:30:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABF1106568C for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:30:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A854D8FC41 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:30:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7F9UrJl015216; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:30:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EE136B85D; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:30:52 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:30:52 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Leonardo =?iso-8859-15?Q?M=2E_Ram=E9?= Message-ID: <20090815093052.GA65927@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <775149.32518.qm@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <775149.32518.qm@web35602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More on Toshiba A305 SP6926A X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 09:30:55 -0000 --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 05:12:24AM -0700, Leonardo M. Ram=E9 wrote: > A new issue I found is I can't control screen brightness & contrast. This > machine has this control in Windows by clicking the [FN Key]+F6/F7. >=20 > Does anyone knows how to enable this in FreeBsd? If it is not something you can enable in your BIOS, i.e. if this feature ne= eds OS support then you should do the following. Check if your window manager/desktop environment has an applet for this. If= it does, that will presumably take care of the details. If it doesn't you'll h= ave to figure it out yourself as indicated below. Use 'xrandr --prop|less' to see if your display supports the backlight property. If it doesn't you can forget about controlling the brightness AFA= IK and skip the rest of this post. Install the x11/xbacklight port. This should enable you to set the backlight level using the RandR extension, if your hardware supports it. Next you need to know if your keyboard setup actually detects the FN key. Start the xev program from a terminal window, and move your mouse poin= ter into the xev window. You'll see a lot of mouse events scrolling through the terminal window. Now press the Fn key, and see if it registers in the termi= nal window. If it doesn't you need to use other key combinations (like just the F6/F7 keys). Next you need to look at your window manager documentation how to link keypresses to executing commands, so that is calls e.g. 'xbacklight --inc 1= 0' and 'xbacklight --dec 10' when the right buttons are pressed. This might be called a 'key binding' or a 'hotkey'. 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Mob: +91 9961040050, +91 9539040906 Phone: +91 484 3077234, Fax: +91 484 3061977 Website : www.pleasureholidayz.com email:pleasureholidayz@gmail.com, info@pleasureholidayz.com Chat Id: pleasureholidayz (Msn/Yahoo/gmail/skype) -- If you do not want to receive any more newsletters, http://www.pleasureholidayz.com/phplist/?p=unsubscribe&uid=c36f437bf34fd56237dcf0e72222ceaa To update your preferences and to unsubscribe visit http://www.pleasureholidayz.com/phplist/?p=preferences&uid=c36f437bf34fd56237dcf0e72222ceaa Forward a Message to Someone http://www.pleasureholidayz.com/phplist/?p=forward&uid=c36f437bf34fd56237dcf0e72222ceaa&mid=48 -- Powered by PHPlist, www.phplist.com -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 10:21:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7296F106568F for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (tunnel490.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:10:1ea::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF43B8FC3D for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7FAKdJP035912; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:20:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n7FAKdwe035911; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:20:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:20:39 +0200 From: Ruben de Groot To: Fernando Apestegu?a Message-ID: <20090815102039.GA35551@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Fernando Apestegu?a , User Questions References: <1bd550a00908141123l2b51d36byc7c54395d717c9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1bd550a00908141123l2b51d36byc7c54395d717c9@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_53, J_CHICKENPOX_54, J_CHICKENPOX_81 autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:21:38 +0200 (CEST) Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: 7.2 burncd and cdrecord problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:21:40 -0000 On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 08:23:49PM +0200, Fernando Apestegu?a typed: > Hi all, > > I'm trying to get my CD drive to work without so much success. > Reading is fine, but when I try to burn a CD I get errors in dmesg. > > Using cdrecord -blank=fast dev=3,0,0 I get: > > [...] > Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-ROM driver (mmc_cd). > Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE > Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R > Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 18 in real BLANK mode for single session. > Last chance to quit, starting real write 0 seconds. Operation starts. > This drive or media does not support the 'BLANK media' command > cdrecord: Cannot blank disk, aborting. > cdrecord: Some drives do not support all blank types. > cdrecord: Try again with cdrecord blank=all. So what happened when you tried the blank=all option instead of your blank=fast? You did try that, didn't you? Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 10:23:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7B1106568C for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24E28FC41 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so38478ewy.43 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:23:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JOwr9j2h5rWtFG0dk6rnU/z3KHLsaaeUz7sXreGOZ90=; b=uvvtxB4PO5vLEVDIqcOW7ynLVVDg5WHXUur70HdVNnaHIZq8fyscSkK9tjbUTdYqxC kHwWoNWZW6sZsuLIv+D5tqSNBBOzLqgcecRh1P64J7oF1psFkGnnWbNBmrwmC7DEq8x9 wze8bPK6riXay11Lw2Ue04WxKUeiifScdO1YY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MBW7q3sD5wR7+Wc5ZvgvHk3SJlLPIUtlwDcyJl0m+xxn9kmH9B9d+b720fW1jul2K5 N1zEFo+uFA65y+xaecK0lVyNxnSKhKvi+eUF5V65vGc2yu7YSx9ywZk8pjKrZyMJ7KDL E/O5i8A5tA3z/iknntL8u3wZDNzwOQGnjJ1Ro= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.119.16 with SMTP id r16mr4366556ebc.49.1250331796958; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:23:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090815102039.GA35551@ei.bzerk.org> References: <1bd550a00908141123l2b51d36byc7c54395d717c9@mail.gmail.com> <20090815102039.GA35551@ei.bzerk.org> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:23:16 +0200 Message-ID: <1bd550a00908150323k483124d0m5cfba864167f8bc7@mail.gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: Ruben de Groot , "Fernando Apestegu?a" , User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: 7.2 burncd and cdrecord problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:23:18 -0000 On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Ruben de Groot wrote: > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 08:23:49PM +0200, Fernando Apestegu?a typed: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm trying to get my CD drive to work without so much success. >> Reading is fine, but when I try to burn a CD I get errors in dmesg. >> >> Using cdrecord -blank=3Dfast dev=3D3,0,0 I get: >> >> [...] >> Using generic SCSI-3/mmc =A0 CD-ROM driver (mmc_cd). >> Driver flags =A0 : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE >> Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R= 96R >> Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 18 in real BLANK mode for single sessi= on. >> Last chance to quit, starting real write =A0 =A00 seconds. Operation sta= rts. >> This drive or media does not support the 'BLANK media' command >> cdrecord: Cannot blank disk, aborting. >> cdrecord: Some drives do not support all blank types. >> cdrecord: Try again with cdrecord blank=3Dall. > > So what happened when you tried the blank=3Dall option instead of your bl= ank=3Dfast? > You did try that, didn't you? I did, sorry I didn't mention that. It shows the same errors. > > Ruben > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 10:53:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278D5106564A for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:53:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricky.breaky@uni.de) Received: from server30738.isdg.de (web3.uni.de [84.19.163.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFFD68FC55 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fm-ip-118.136.26.24.fast.net.id ([118.136.26.24] helo=mandreev) by server30738.isdg.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1McGtD-0002pW-13 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:53:35 +0200 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:53:47 +0700 From: Ricky Tompu Breaky To: "questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20090815175347.5564ee0e@mandreev> Organization: Hagen Universitaet X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Howto: To know whether the 3D accelerator works on my desktop with ATI Radeon 3450. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:53:53 -0000 Dear my friends, please tell me how I know whether my FreeBSD can run the 3D Accelerator with my current ATI Radeon 3450 graphic card. Thank you very much in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 10:57:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A01F106568B for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:57:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A71B8FC4B for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-225.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.225]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D2124634; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:57:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n7FAvbiW001617; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:57:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:57:37 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ricky Tompu Breaky Message-Id: <20090815125737.4caccd9d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090815175347.5564ee0e@mandreev> References: <20090815175347.5564ee0e@mandreev> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Howto: To know whether the 3D accelerator works on my desktop with ATI Radeon 3450. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:57:40 -0000 On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:53:47 +0700, Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote: > Dear my friends, > > please tell me how I know whether my FreeBSD can run the 3D Accelerator > with my current ATI Radeon 3450 graphic card. As far as I know, the "glxgears" program is a good indicator. It can be installed via the "mesa-demos" port or package. Furthermore, there's the "glxinfo" program. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 12:01:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BF71065691 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CDD8FC65 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.47.111.183] (helo=jail.joeandlane.com) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1McHiO-0004w2-9W for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 07:46:28 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.200] (SERVER [192.168.0.200] (may be forged)) by jail.joeandlane.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7FBjNO1074039 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:45:23 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) From: Lane Holcombe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:45:16 -0500 Message-Id: <1250336716.18733.480.camel@lholcombe-desktop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ONCEAWAVE-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: n7FBjNO1074039 X-ONCEAWAVE-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ONCEAWAVE-MailScanner-From: lane@joeandlane.com X-Spam-Status: No X-ELNK-Trace: e56a4b6ca9bdfda11aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec794c5b3cd385d0d5226a52993fc35a0966350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.47.111.183 Subject: Java does not expose ScriptEngine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:01:37 -0000 Hello, JDK 1.6 supposedly bundles rhino scripting, but this does not seem to be the case on FreeBSD 7 for java/jdk16, java/diablo-jdk16 or java/openjdk6 as each call to ScriptEngineManager.getEngineFactories() returns an empty list. when I put the script-engine jar into the classpath: (e.g. put js-engine.jar into /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.6.0/jre/lib/ext) java does not load the script engine as expected. On other os's (have tested Windows, and ubuntu) I can add a scriptengine simply by placing the jar in the classpath. Does anyone have any information about how to use scripting with java on FreeBSD? thanks! lane From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 12:03:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC99D10656A8 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:03:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0A08FC45 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7FC3Ygc070209; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:03:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9E4A8BA9B; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:03:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:03:34 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Ricky Tompu Breaky Message-ID: <20090815120334.GA707@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20090815175347.5564ee0e@mandreev> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090815175347.5564ee0e@mandreev> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Howto: To know whether the 3D accelerator works on my desktop with ATI Radeon 3450. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:03:42 -0000 --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 05:53:47PM +0700, Ricky Tompu Breaky wrote: > Dear my friends, >=20 > please tell me how I know whether my FreeBSD can run the 3D Accelerator > with my current ATI Radeon 3450 graphic card. =20 The Radeon 3450 uses a RV620 chip [http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-radeonhd/plain/README].= =20 The radeonhd driver (x11-drivers/xf86-video-radeonhd) now supports 2D accelleration for this chip. 3D hardware accelleration support for this chip (and indeed all R6xx chips)= is being worked on, but not ready for prime time. See [http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonhd] The Xorg server falls back to software 3D rendering through Mesa [http://www.mesa3d.org/]. Depending on your application and CPU power this might be fast enough. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqGpBYACgkQEnfvsMMhpyV0+gCgsRkG0pIaxB+JPRKMxFtdONkZ 4qQAn2j8m1dSYZ9Cs5OJLIcoocLN3QbV =BVZF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 15:34:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AAC106568B for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:34:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfl@robinlea.com) Received: from 28amen.org (28amen.org [204.3.153.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F7D8FC4B for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (118.172.72.192.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [118.172.72.192]) (authenticated bits=0) by 28amen.org (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n7FFKXGA007435 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:20:37 GMT Message-ID: <4A86D248.7060504@robinlea.com> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:20:40 +0700 From: John Francis Lee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: VIrtualBox install of 7.2 dvd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:34:34 -0000 Hi, I got a new machine, a linux ubuntu-running AMD64 based one, and thought I'd try out FreeBSD here at home. But when I begin the VirtualBox installation I get dumped into a shell-looking terminal with an OK prompt. I can't read all the instructions and frankly cannot do anything with it. I tried hitting the 2 before the timeout to boot with ACPI disabled but that seems not to make any difference. Have you heard of this problem before? Any help you might give appreciated. Thanks. I'll go see if the VirtualBox people can shed any light on the matter as well. -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 15:38:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C60106568E for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfl@robinlea.com) Received: from 28amen.org (28amen.org [204.3.153.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEF58FC4B for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:38:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (118.172.72.192.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net [118.172.72.192]) (authenticated bits=0) by 28amen.org (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n7FFcNTw014534 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:38:26 GMT Message-ID: <4A86D675.1010003@robinlea.com> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:38:29 +0700 From: John Francis Lee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: CPU doesn't support long mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:38:32 -0000 My problem seems to be that CPU doesn't support long mode Is that it? Can't get there from here? -- John Francis Lee 1025/37 Thanon Jet Yod Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 16:48:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47355106568F for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:48:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@urgle.com) Received: from lon1-msapost-2.mail.demon.net (lon1-msapost-2.mail.demon.net [195.173.77.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126AF8FC52 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:48:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from funsize.urgle.com ([80.177.40.59]) by lon1-post-2.mail.demon.net with esmtpsa (AUTH shivan-adsl) (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) id 1McM3f-0000bG-cD; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:24:43 +0000 Message-ID: <4A86E145.3020503@urgle.com> Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:24:37 +0100 From: Mike Bristow User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Francis Lee References: <4A86D675.1010003@robinlea.com> In-Reply-To: <4A86D675.1010003@robinlea.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: CPU doesn't support long mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:48:03 -0000 John Francis Lee wrote: > My problem seems to be that > > CPU doesn't support long mode > > Is that it? Can't get there from here? My guess is that you've installed an amd64 version of FreeBSD, but your system is i386. Cheers, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 18:02:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB20106568F for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:02:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7473C8FC61 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:02:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so168396ewy.43 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:02:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=v1vXA95veYO/pw5g9fBn6FC1iELlP/E0s+JNqxc78KM=; b=TsseniipVzzMLvXtHARDRh5x4MEH4/dKFQmQQ/dAxMsLKfKRnK4oybPePO/6tt6oTv N4P44JoCcRjnsl4Zelto45dpJZhThlDgL+jjlJmeXje/lxYwrhHp//0R0wmefCFI4ezN FXF0Wwe+J6fJZ0e43XpAYaG5kRq34M2t2dZY8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=FRU3PeadlpSLjaXtJBhbTuaw/HwSwI1yBgaMxU7mTAadJqgXB1ffi+eU6uzKVtGBXb f5z/njrJMEKPu/0Lod4akbvVvdQKg/sVomGu33TTI3lBKck5eFNJ+4My3GpDWrCuX/hJ aljqaJ+exv66sLB1lVuxB2lpyVIT10zJ9wAdg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.28.193 with SMTP id g43mr665234wea.192.1250359331899; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:02:11 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 7.2 burncd and cdrecord problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:02:14 -0000 > I'm trying to get my CD drive to work without so much success. > Reading is fine, but when I try to burn a CD I get errors in dmesg. >Using cdrecord -blank=fast dev=3,0,0 I get: First, I hope that you are using sysutils/cdrtools-devel rather than sysutils/cdrtools. The latter is several years out of date, and the upstream maintainer of the software has said that no one should be using it, but the maintainer of the FreeBSD port has so far been unwilling to update it. ... >And dmesg shows: >acd0: FAILURE - READ_BUFFER ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00 >acd0: FAILURE - MODE_SELECT_BIG ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x26 ascq=0x00 It is not unusual for some errors to appear, even during normal operation, so these don't necessarily indicate a problem, although it was good that you posted them. You should run the cdrecord command with -vv (yes, two v's) to get verbose error messages from cdrecord. This should give you a better idea of why cdrecord is failing. If the error messages from -vv are not enough, you can also add -VV, although this affects the timing of the operations, and should be used with care when recording. I have had problems like this in the past, when a disk was corrupted, and cdrecord balked at blanking it. I used blank=all with either the -immed flag, or the -force flag, or both, to solve the problems. If you are using cdrtools, you should probably use the cd(4) driver together with atapicam(4), rather than the acd(4) driver. To prevent possible problems, it is safer to prevent both drivers from attaching to the same device. I usually remove: device atapicd from my kernel, and just use: device ata device atapicam device scbus device cd device pass I don't know whether it is possible to disable the acd(4) driver using just loader.conf(5), device.hints(5), or some other means at boot- or run-time, but you could look into that if you don't want to go to the trouble of removing it from your kernel. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 19:17:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4021F106568B for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:17:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricky.breaky@uni.de) Received: from server30738.isdg.de (web3.uni.de [84.19.163.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018AE8FC52 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:17:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fm-ip-118.136.26.24.fast.net.id ([118.136.26.24] helo=mandreev) by server30738.isdg.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1McGqz-00023T-OQ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:51:18 +0200 Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:51:29 +0700 From: Ricky Tompu Breaky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090815175129.150a7b70@mandreev> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908141235j47a71372n45f9d02cc60c77ee@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090814173917.14de7572@mandreev> <4ad871310908141235j47a71372n45f9d02cc60c77ee@mail.gmail.com> Organization: Hagen Universitaet X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ATI Radeon HD3450 on FreeBSD 7.2-->Solved X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:17:46 -0000 Dear Glen, Sabine and Polytropon, Thank you very much for your help. You all solved my problem. Thank you thousands times..... == Am Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:35:37 -0400 schrieb Glen Barber : > Hi, > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Ricky Tompu > Breaky wrote: > > Dear my friends, > > > > I just installed FreeBSD 7.2. But its xserver always hung-up > > (suddenly stop working), only the GUI which suddenly stops working > > once I execute: " > > startx > > ". > > I can see the GUI but I can not do anything on it. I can not click > > anything and I can not type nothing on it. > > > > My computer use ATI Radeon HD3450. > > > > But the kernel still works as the xserver stops working because if > > I do "CTRL-Alt-F1/F2/F3/F?" then I can see the login prompt console. > > > > What should I do to solve this problem? > > > > I added the following to xorg.conf to fix the problems I had: > > Section "ServerFlags" > option "AutoAddDevices" "off" > option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" > EndSection > > > Have a look at /usr/ports/UPDATING regarding the Xorg update. > > > HTH > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 20:01:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7086106568C for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654A28FC4B for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so200515ewy.43 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:01:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NiDWbS6V3Pg3gQZovOQwVcryXiPjF3usAFckiKFk4+Y=; b=lKEOOVfKlA7Ac41aMMDFA/6uF9WKxaQXjj19aMnuUnNx8VJ5X+zTTTAgRNz1Bof4rU jSgYw7TQ9FMTVfmgSYL8drjLgFRj3pZVCLYnO8wsWdeyeaIU2WCG5qxmLQNZE4AAx4S6 No0vY2xIbEUguv05+9cY97/twX+WomzhJNOG4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kC22mJYx/XB4lQZnp0VViS5tKBCfx96xkb+yZQTzlaWSQBIr2q1RzILL6E8Lgw73ZN a3G/stSx0tlhmo3rng36v5035TzKX147itq3rFIJdqJuiMaLuQcH4JlXC+ecDBvhCKKX jwdbKxTx2Ohibm51CnRSmBtwUhaQl+Te6lyWc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.82.2 with SMTP id f2mr1188581ebb.34.1250366490234; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 13:01:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:01:30 +0200 Message-ID: <1bd550a00908151301r4f1e814bj88eb09a39bb04685@mail.gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: "b. f." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2 burncd and cdrecord problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:01:31 -0000 On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:02 PM, b. f. wrote: >> I'm trying to get my CD drive to work without so much success. >> Reading is fine, but when I try to burn a CD I get errors in dmesg. > >>Using cdrecord -blank=3Dfast dev=3D3,0,0 I get: > > First, I hope that you are using sysutils/cdrtools-devel rather than > sysutils/cdrtools. =A0The latter is several years out of date, and the > upstream maintainer of the software has said that no one should be > using it, but the maintainer of the FreeBSD port has so far been > unwilling to update it. > > ... > >>And dmesg shows: >>acd0: FAILURE - READ_BUFFER ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=3D0x24 ascq=3D0x00 >>acd0: FAILURE - MODE_SELECT_BIG ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=3D0x26 ascq=3D0x00 > > It is not unusual for some errors to appear, even during normal > operation, so these don't necessarily indicate a problem, although it > was good that you posted them. =A0You should run the cdrecord command > with -vv (yes, two v's) to get verbose error messages from cdrecord. > This should give you a better idea of why cdrecord is failing. =A0If the > error messages from -vv are not enough, you can also add -VV, although > this affects the timing of the operations, and should be used with > care when recording. > > I have had problems like this in the past, when a disk was corrupted, > and cdrecord balked at blanking it. =A0I used blank=3Dall with either the > -immed flag, or the -force flag, or both, to solve the problems. Honestly I didn't think this was the problem, but it seems I've had a bad virgin CD set. Two of them (of a set of 5) seem to work fine. I can write, rewrite and blank them. Aaarrghh! sorry for the noise. Nevertheless, I will try to update to cdrtools-devel since I have cdrtools installed Thanks to all of you. > > If you are using cdrtools, you should probably use the cd(4) driver > together with atapicam(4), rather than the acd(4) driver. =A0To prevent > possible problems, it is safer to prevent both drivers from attaching > to the same device. =A0I usually remove: > > device atapicd > > from my kernel, and just use: > > device ata > device atapicam > device scbus > device cd > device pass > > I don't know whether it is possible to disable the acd(4) driver using > just loader.conf(5), device.hints(5), or some other means at boot- or > run-time, but you could look into that if you don't want to go to the > trouble of removing it from your kernel. > > b. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 20:52:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83CB106568C for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:52:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0E68FC4D for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.47.111.183] (helo=jail.joeandlane.com) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1McQEy-00057H-I9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:52:40 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.200] (SERVER [192.168.0.200] (may be forged)) by jail.joeandlane.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7FKpLTw008948 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:51:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lane@joeandlane.com) From: Lane Holcombe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 06:45:16 -0500 Message-Id: <1250336716.18733.480.camel@lholcombe-desktop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ONCEAWAVE-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: n7FKpLTw008948 X-ONCEAWAVE-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ONCEAWAVE-MailScanner-From: lane@joeandlane.com X-Spam-Status: No X-ELNK-Trace: e56a4b6ca9bdfda11aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79f2000aac342782d7c49f7e4abb255aba350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.47.111.183 Subject: Java does not expose ScriptEngine X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:52:41 -0000 Hello, JDK 1.6 supposedly bundles rhino scripting, but this does not seem to be the case on FreeBSD 7 for java/jdk16, java/diablo-jdk16 or java/openjdk6 as each call to ScriptEngineManager.getEngineFactories() returns an empty list. when I put the script-engine jar into the classpath: (e.g. put js-engine.jar into /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.6.0/jre/lib/ext) java does not load the script engine as expected. On other os's (have tested Windows, and ubuntu) I can add a scriptengine simply by placing the jar in the classpath. Does anyone have any information about how to use scripting with java on FreeBSD? thanks! lane From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 22:36:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4DB9106568D for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:36:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kingedgar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com (mail-yw0-f199.google.com [209.85.211.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406A88FC43 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:36:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so3252456ywh.28 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:36:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=EQ5uTpOsAuAvfSkTZlA2TMdg8oqJhHtXTnuvaxuOgMY=; b=E8dJNoWusLmIYu3hoJZhCAop/Oebq+jcshBiZrE6pZLBShszFSo54X8thnu4lWThJZ FURpO+zVqXFlOo5Ql8yZqJnLcmM/HXnr57drbv/M9udrn/+sOKpa0sGgG42c7rLUEOaA Fx1Ct8+YQsjrcfQAXX22C2wD4C8jlaFHNiPdU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=D4DlgSuHfqnBnRCS3a6KCZce/+peC8OSPDd8TXtXwyzeqPQMlokp3VsjWhLZw+V3mE 7rlPuZWpW9+FJ+68IQHidXpcm1hpmwKcN6UkRqsaGdlrrpwzFnzj+zLjpX5wlwsdEGK+ CK2HBVE2LFNtgJNnRLH6aoyveB0Xx9aoaGQv0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.149.11 with SMTP id b11mr155164ybo.344.1250375763726; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:36:03 -0500 Message-ID: <970380130908151536m5fec61aayb7523f1c29461bda@mail.gmail.com> From: Jason Garrett To: FreeBSD-Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: High Point Rocket Raid 1740 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:36:04 -0000 High Point Rocket Raid 1740... Is this a fakeraid card? A good raid card? What are your experiences with this card... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 15 23:49:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDBA51065672 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:49:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5488FC15 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:49:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7FNnK08025105 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:49:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:49:24 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20090815234920.GA9094@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: script to send out a dozen letters? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:49:29 -0000 if there are tools to do this, please point me at them, but i want to send out a snail and/or email|HTML|whatever to a handful of companies that i hope to find online. I'm guessing the inside address would me something like Company Name Address Company Email Attn Mr. Smith: [my canned letter] i forget if the inside address is before the recipient address--I *think* so. is there a way of having date output the format "15 August, 2009" rather than my usual, 15aug09? I am pretty sure these people are most accustomed to GUI/html mail, so is there a way of invoking evo with html capability? if there are web pointers on this, puleeze clue me in! thanks much, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org