From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 14 16:18:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F29A1065696; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:18:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0168FC15; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id oAEGItAk020159; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 09:18:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id oAEGIsOF020156; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 09:18:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 09:18:54 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Andriy Gapon In-Reply-To: <4CDEE881.201@icyb.net.ua> Message-ID: References: <4CD7C15D.2010203@icyb.net.ua> <20101108150306.GB17517@wep4035.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <4CD8132D.9090902@icyb.net.ua> <20101113192506.GC29660@lonesome.com> <4CDEE881.201@icyb.net.ua> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 14 Nov 2010 09:18:55 -0700 (MST) Cc: Alexey Shuvaev , Mark Linimon , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.7.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:18:56 -0000 On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: > I agree, but I am not sure how in the ports land we do an application testing in > general. That is, I am sure there will be a lot of testers if the port update > is actually committed :-) but I am not sure how to test it in advance (given all > the possible hardware and software configurations). Why not just create a new xorg-server177 or xorg-server-devel port as has been done with other ports? Assuming no other dependencies, or at least a clear list of what to rebuild in the pkg-message, it would allow people to test the new xorg-server and easily revert to the old one if needed. Mesa, too... and what was the other port talked about recently... libdrm? From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 14 16:41:03 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFFB1065673; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:41:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0887F8FC13; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:41:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.topspin.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id SAA26830; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:40:50 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost.topspin.kiev.ua ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.topspin.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1PHfdK-0001LP-1P; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:40:50 +0200 Message-ID: <4CE01110.6030102@icyb.net.ua> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:40:48 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101029 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4CD7C15D.2010203@icyb.net.ua> <20101108150306.GB17517@wep4035.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <4CD8132D.9090902@icyb.net.ua> <20101113192506.GC29660@lonesome.com> <4CDEE881.201@icyb.net.ua> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Alexey Shuvaev , Mark Linimon , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.7.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:41:04 -0000 on 14/11/2010 18:18 Warren Block said the following: > On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: > >> I agree, but I am not sure how in the ports land we do an application testing in >> general. That is, I am sure there will be a lot of testers if the port update >> is actually committed :-) but I am not sure how to test it in advance (given all >> the possible hardware and software configurations). > > Why not just create a new xorg-server177 or xorg-server-devel port as has been > done with other ports? Would it be really worth it? 1.7.7 is just couple of minor releases ahead of what we have now and the latest _release_ is 1.9.2. So, xorg-server-devel for 1.9.2 - that would make sense for my taste. xorg-server-devel for 1.7.7 - just an overcautiousness and, IMO, a waste of resources. > Assuming no other dependencies, or at least a clear list of what to rebuild in > the pkg-message, it would allow people to test the new xorg-server and easily > revert to the old one if needed. Mesa, too... and what was the other port > talked about recently... libdrm? -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 14 16:41:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391D61065673; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:41:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (pancho.soaustin.net [76.74.250.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186708FC14; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:41:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 55FB856028; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:41:29 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:41:29 +0000 From: Mark Linimon To: Andriy Gapon Message-ID: <20101114164129.GA18379@lonesome.com> References: <4CD7C15D.2010203@icyb.net.ua> <20101108150306.GB17517@wep4035.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <4CD8132D.9090902@icyb.net.ua> <20101113192506.GC29660@lonesome.com> <4CDEE881.201@icyb.net.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4CDEE881.201@icyb.net.ua> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Alexey Shuvaev , freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.7.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:41:30 -0000 On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 09:35:29PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: > Not sure if we've had any problems like that when upgrading between minor > versions of a single module, even such as xorg server. I don't remember, either. > That is, I am sure there will be a lot of testers if the port update is > actually committed :-) but I am not sure how to test it in advance (given all > the possible hardware and software configurations). rnoland was doing testing with some of the "well-known" configurations, to make sure those didn't regress. I'd be happy to see various folks step forward to volunteer to beta-test new updates on various configurations. Obviously, 100% coverage is impossible, but if we had a handful of folks, I think we could do a lot. mcl From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 14 19:12:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F409F106566C; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:12:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kwm@freebsd.org) Received: from fep23.mx.upcmail.net (fep23.mx.upcmail.net [62.179.121.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF3E8FC18; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:12:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edge01.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.236]) by viefep14-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.02.02 201-2260-120-106-20100312) with ESMTP id <20101114185618.BHBC1559.viefep14-int.chello.at@edge01.upcmail.net>; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:56:18 +0100 Received: from headache.rainbow-runner.nl ([80.56.73.45]) by edge01.upcmail.net with edge id X6wC1f03X0ydU7k016wH8K; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:56:18 +0100 X-SourceIP: 80.56.73.45 Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:56:55 +0100 From: Koop Mast To: Andriy Gapon Message-ID: <20101114195655.020876fd@headache.rainbow-runner.nl> In-Reply-To: <4CD7C15D.2010203@icyb.net.ua> References: <4CD7C15D.2010203@icyb.net.ua> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.22.0; i386-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=j1CYNfUTXcdyZdVN4L9UR3+GJ9zcpEUAqGH4Xk32igg= c=1 sm=0 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=6fJy-CjXAAAA:8 a=iwfFM1wS_f436oio720A:9 a=bFVW0z_W0tOhJUZFSRxf82ZvCZcA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Cc: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.7.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:12:02 -0000 On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 11:22:37 +0200 Andriy Gapon wrote: > > Can we update xorg-server to 1.7.7, the latest version on 1.7 branch? > It looks like that would require only changing the version and regenerating the > checksums. > > -- > Andriy Gapon I'm going to update x11/pixman to 0.18.4 next week. Because the cairo 0.10 that comes with gnome 2.32 needs it. I haven't seen or heard from our testers that there where any problems with this update. -Koop From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 14 19:24:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E3D106564A; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:24:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE3E8FC15; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:24:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id oAEJOjSf020676; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:24:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id oAEJOia8020673; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:24:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:24:44 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Andriy Gapon In-Reply-To: <4CE01110.6030102@icyb.net.ua> Message-ID: References: <4CD7C15D.2010203@icyb.net.ua> <20101108150306.GB17517@wep4035.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <4CD8132D.9090902@icyb.net.ua> <20101113192506.GC29660@lonesome.com> <4CDEE881.201@icyb.net.ua> <4CE01110.6030102@icyb.net.ua> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:24:45 -0700 (MST) Cc: Alexey Shuvaev , Mark Linimon , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.7.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 19:24:46 -0000 On Sun, 14 Nov 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 14/11/2010 18:18 Warren Block said the following: >> On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: >> >>> I agree, but I am not sure how in the ports land we do an application testing in >>> general. That is, I am sure there will be a lot of testers if the port update >>> is actually committed :-) but I am not sure how to test it in advance (given all >>> the possible hardware and software configurations). >> >> Why not just create a new xorg-server177 or xorg-server-devel port as has been >> done with other ports? > > Would it be really worth it? > 1.7.7 is just couple of minor releases ahead of what we have now and the latest > _release_ is 1.9.2. > So, xorg-server-devel for 1.9.2 - that would make sense for my taste. > xorg-server-devel for 1.7.7 - just an overcautiousness and, IMO, a waste of > resources. It would depend on how compatible the newer server is with the existing xorg ports. But sure, go with the newest one that still works. If these ports are too shaky for normal users, they wouldn't even have to go in the tree. Put them on a web page somewhere. But this would ast least allow a wider range of testing. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 14 20:23:11 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3522106571E; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:23:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@pcbsd.org) Received: from que21.charter.net (que21.charter.net [209.225.8.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7538FC18; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20101114200645.WZRQ3705.mta21.charter.net@imp10>; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:06:45 -0500 Received: from moorefam.homeunix.org ([96.38.85.215]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id X86j1f0094elNjk0586jdi; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:06:45 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=RQhMjnVR2wSmuIdpvIoA:9 a=eJePECmKE0GHNbHeRics4mDHAB4A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Received: by moorefam.homeunix.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:06:43 -0500 Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:06:43 -0500 From: Kris Moore To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20101114200643.GA11920@pcbsd.org> References: <4CD7C15D.2010203@icyb.net.ua> <20101108150306.GB17517@wep4035.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <4CD8132D.9090902@icyb.net.ua> <20101113192506.GC29660@lonesome.com> <4CDEE881.201@icyb.net.ua> <4CE01110.6030102@icyb.net.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, Andriy Gapon , josh@ixsystems.com, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Alexey Shuvaev , Mark Linimon Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.7.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:23:11 -0000 On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:24:44PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 14 Nov 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: > > > on 14/11/2010 18:18 Warren Block said the following: > >> On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: > >> > >>> I agree, but I am not sure how in the ports land we do an application testing in > >>> general. That is, I am sure there will be a lot of testers if the port update > >>> is actually committed :-) but I am not sure how to test it in advance (given all > >>> the possible hardware and software configurations). > >> > >> Why not just create a new xorg-server177 or xorg-server-devel port as has been > >> done with other ports? > > > > Would it be really worth it? > > 1.7.7 is just couple of minor releases ahead of what we have now and the latest > > _release_ is 1.9.2. > > So, xorg-server-devel for 1.9.2 - that would make sense for my taste. > > xorg-server-devel for 1.7.7 - just an overcautiousness and, IMO, a waste of > > resources. > > It would depend on how compatible the newer server is with the existing > xorg ports. But sure, go with the newest one that still works. > > If these ports are too shaky for normal users, they wouldn't even have > to go in the tree. Put them on a web page somewhere. But this would > ast least allow a wider range of testing. Does the xorg porting team have a repo somewhere for port work, ala area51 for KDE4? If not, would setting one up be of interest to people here? That probably be a service we could easily provide, since we are particularly attached to having a working Xorg ;) -- Kris Moore PC-BSD Software From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 14 20:44:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891BD1065704; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:44:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swell.k@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268538FC20; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywa8 with SMTP id 8so2250679ywa.13 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:44:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:references :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=tm0AOvNGfu0vRx4yPZKVSpXVWMZQ8fWkoiSAIDTWxaI=; b=DUpZrUzskmKVADFTbzrKSGankaQik66L2gD9DpGN9q8lRk3A4IvRi3mebQVVqHh4cw jIBhbF82GP4u1GU3AnJwp6IYq6+i6Zuf1GzbUa+X7U8l/61AfZ7eMX68iRCYNrQsET5G F1eoN5s10TlR9cwWHpknLojCR9hvD5GyF8ruY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=CRiJgWKhdQUD7TLnc8CLkAKmvK1MnPdkez48F4bUR/QW2mxuAt6hVdPxJkjE0/EDNT 7JggMJ8pXK/UrY8dLQPRAcV+u60l66tDhzkb7j+vtZmQDnxWUoqNM+c4kg1OT3ZNSeD1 P4X4kMhQerBaD5WyEjOGGzTdyCOyDQvcZtOSI= Received: by 10.100.201.8 with SMTP id y8mr3611432anf.169.1289767498208; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:44:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (tor-exit-proxy3-readme.formlessnetworking.net [208.53.142.39]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w3sm2894279anw.5.2010.11.14.12.44.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:44:57 -0800 (PST) From: Anonymous To: Kris Moore References: <4CD7C15D.2010203@icyb.net.ua> <20101108150306.GB17517@wep4035.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <4CD8132D.9090902@icyb.net.ua> <20101113192506.GC29660@lonesome.com> <4CDEE881.201@icyb.net.ua> <4CE01110.6030102@icyb.net.ua> <20101114200643.GA11920@pcbsd.org> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:44:51 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20101114200643.GA11920@pcbsd.org> (Kris Moore's message of "Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:06:43 -0500") Message-ID: <864objr5x8.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, Andriy Gapon , Alexey Shuvaev , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, josh@ixsystems.com, Mark Linimon Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.7.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:44:59 -0000 Kris Moore writes: > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:24:44PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: >> On Sun, 14 Nov 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: >> >> > on 14/11/2010 18:18 Warren Block said the following: >> >> On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: >> >> >> >>> I agree, but I am not sure how in the ports land we do an application testing in >> >>> general. That is, I am sure there will be a lot of testers if the port update >> >>> is actually committed :-) but I am not sure how to test it in advance (given all >> >>> the possible hardware and software configurations). >> >> >> >> Why not just create a new xorg-server177 or xorg-server-devel port as has been >> >> done with other ports? >> > >> > Would it be really worth it? >> > 1.7.7 is just couple of minor releases ahead of what we have now and the latest >> > _release_ is 1.9.2. >> > So, xorg-server-devel for 1.9.2 - that would make sense for my taste. >> > xorg-server-devel for 1.7.7 - just an overcautiousness and, IMO, a waste of >> > resources. >> >> It would depend on how compatible the newer server is with the existing >> xorg ports. But sure, go with the newest one that still works. >> >> If these ports are too shaky for normal users, they wouldn't even have >> to go in the tree. Put them on a web page somewhere. But this would >> ast least allow a wider range of testing. > > Does the xorg porting team have a repo somewhere for port work, ala area51 > for KDE4? If not, would setting one up be of interest to people here? That > probably be a service we could easily provide, since we are particularly > attached to having a working Xorg ;) It has one http://wiki.freebsd.org/ModularXorg/7.5 Not sure about previous major updates. With history scattered across several development repos[*] it can be quite hard to track. [*] no one uses branches in ports tree (shuns CVS?) From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 14 21:00:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461F51065674 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:00:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@pcbsd.org) Received: from mail.iXsystems.com (newknight.ixsystems.com [206.40.55.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1754A8FC0C for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:00:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ixsystems.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8125A6648B; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:00:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.iXsystems.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ixsystems.com (mail.ixsystems.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 37679-08; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:00:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail.ixsystems.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6557A6646A; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:00:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: AtMail 1.03 Message-ID: <49815.1289768410@pcbsd.org> To: "Anonymous" , "Kris Moore" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Origin: 96.38.85.215 X-Atmail-Account: kris@pcbsd.org Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:00:10 -0800 From: Kris Moore Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Languages: en Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, Andriy Gapon , Alexey Shuvaev , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, josh@ixsystems.com, Mark Linimon Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.7.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kris@pcbsd.org List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:00:12 -0000 On Sun 14/11/10 3:44 PM , Anonymous wrote: > Kris Moore writes: > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:24:44PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: > >> On Sun, 14 Nov 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: > >>=20 > >> > on 14/11/2010 18:18 Warren Block said the following: > >> >> On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> I agree, but I am not sure how in the ports land we do an > application testing in > >> >>> general. That is, I am sure there will be a lot of testers if > the port update > >> >>> is actually committed :-) but I am not sure how to test it in > advance (given all > >> >>> the possible hardware and software configurations). > >> >> > >> >> Why not just create a new xorg-server177 or xorg-server-devel > port as has been > >> >> done with other ports? > >> > > >> > Would it be really worth it? > >> > 1.7.7 is just couple of minor releases ahead of what we have now > and the latest > >> > _release_ is 1.9.2. > >> > So, xorg-server-devel for 1.9.2 - that would make sense for my > taste. > >> > xorg-server-devel for 1.7.7 - just an overcautiousness and, IMO, > a waste of > >> > resources. > >>=20 > >> It would depend on how compatible the newer server is with the > existing=20 > >> xorg ports. But sure, go with the newest one that still works. > >>=20 > >> If these ports are too shaky for normal users, they wouldn't even > have=20 > >> to go in the tree. Put them on a web page somewhere. But this > would=20 > >> ast least allow a wider range of testing. > > > > Does the xorg porting team have a repo somewhere for port work, ala > area51 > > for KDE4? If not, would setting one up be of interest to people > here? That=20 > > probably be a service we could easily provide, since we are > particularly > > attached to having a working Xorg ;) > It has one > http://wiki.freebsd.org/ModularXorg/7.5 > Not sure about previous major updates. With history scattered across > several development repos[*] it can be quite hard to track. > [*] no one uses branches in ports tree (shuns CVS?) >=20 >=20 Are those SVN services still in use? Looking at the http links on that page= I assumed it was old and no longer usable.=20 =20 -- Kris Moore PC-BSD / iXsystems Message sent via Atmail Open - http://atmail.org/ From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 14 21:15:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D42106566C; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@acm.org) Received: from fallbackmx09.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CA38FC1D; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.194]) by fallbackmx09.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id oAEJ6ivi024424; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:06:44 +1100 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-116-103.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.116.103]) by mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id oAEJ6fxQ013931 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:06:41 +1100 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id oAEJ6eUj013277; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:06:40 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id oAEJ6er8013276; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:06:40 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:06:40 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Andriy Gapon Message-ID: <20101114190640.GA13056@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <4CD7C15D.2010203@icyb.net.ua> <20101108150306.GB17517@wep4035.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <4CD8132D.9090902@icyb.net.ua> <20101113192506.GC29660@lonesome.com> <4CDEE881.201@icyb.net.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4CDEE881.201@icyb.net.ua> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.7.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:15:00 -0000 --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2010-Nov-13 21:35:29 +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: >I think that you refer to upgrades of the "Xorg bundle" as a whole. >Not sure if we've had any problems like that when upgrading between minor >versions of a single module, even such as xorg server. Looking back through my gripe list, apart from the general X11 build system regressions going from 6.9 to 7.0 (reducing portability and roughly doubling the overall build time), _all_ of the regressions, POLA violations and general breakage I have run into have been related to the X server (though some may be DRI/DRM and input/output device). --=20 Peter Jeremy --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkzgM0AACgkQ/opHv/APuIebaQCfVJCb8uonX7s5rVB2NRwNOEPG Z2QAn2vykouW8oi6OKZXbULYO9HzePYk =x+C4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3-- From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 14 22:19:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11091065672; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@ixsystems.com) Received: from mail.iXsystems.com (newknight.ixsystems.com [206.40.55.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902058FC16; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:19:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ixsystems.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42DC6A6648B; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 14:02:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.iXsystems.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ixsystems.com (mail.ixsystems.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 41341-02; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 14:02:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.39.204.126] (mobile-166-137-143-227.mycingular.net [166.137.143.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8A332A66453; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 14:02:04 -0800 (PST) References: <49815.1289768410@pcbsd.org> In-Reply-To: <49815.1289768410@pcbsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <7E4D84EF-E44E-4B4E-90E6-1CCB7D144DB9@ixsystems.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8B117) From: Josh Paetzel Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:02:42 -0600 To: "kris@pcbsd.org" Cc: "" , Andriy Gapon , Alexey Shuvaev , "" , Anonymous , Mark Linimon Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.7.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:19:05 -0000 Area51 is quite cloneable it terms of infrastructure and what not. We could v= ery easily provide an SVN repo for experimental xoeg work.=20 Thanks, Josh Paetzel On Nov 14, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Kris Moore wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sun 14/11/10 3:44 PM , Anonymous wrote: >=20 >> Kris Moore writes: >>> On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:24:44PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: >>>> On Sun, 14 Nov 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> on 14/11/2010 18:18 Warren Block said the following: >>>>>> On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> I agree, but I am not sure how in the ports land we do an >> application testing in >>>>>>> general. That is, I am sure there will be a lot of testers if >> the port update >>>>>>> is actually committed :-) but I am not sure how to test it in >> advance (given all >>>>>>> the possible hardware and software configurations). >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Why not just create a new xorg-server177 or xorg-server-devel >> port as has been >>>>>> done with other ports? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Would it be really worth it? >>>>> 1.7.7 is just couple of minor releases ahead of what we have now >> and the latest >>>>> _release_ is 1.9.2. >>>>> So, xorg-server-devel for 1.9.2 - that would make sense for my >> taste. >>>>> xorg-server-devel for 1.7.7 - just an overcautiousness and, IMO, >> a waste of >>>>> resources. >>>>=20 >>>> It would depend on how compatible the newer server is with the >> existing=20 >>>> xorg ports. But sure, go with the newest one that still works. >>>>=20 >>>> If these ports are too shaky for normal users, they wouldn't even >> have=20 >>>> to go in the tree. Put them on a web page somewhere. But this >> would=20 >>>> ast least allow a wider range of testing. >>>=20 >>> Does the xorg porting team have a repo somewhere for port work, ala >> area51 >>> for KDE4? If not, would setting one up be of interest to people >> here? That=20 >>> probably be a service we could easily provide, since we are >> particularly >>> attached to having a working Xorg ;) >> It has one >> http://wiki.freebsd.org/ModularXorg/7.5 >> Not sure about previous major updates. With history scattered across >> several development repos[*] it can be quite hard to track. >> [*] no one uses branches in ports tree (shuns CVS?) >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > Are those SVN services still in use? Looking at the http links on that pag= e I assumed it was old and no longer usable.=20 >=20 > -- > Kris Moore > PC-BSD / iXsystems >=20 > Message sent via Atmail Open - http://atmail.org/ From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 08:47:17 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52885106566B; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:47:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D4D8FC19; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.topspin.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id KAA08907; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:47:11 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost.topspin.kiev.ua ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.topspin.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1PHuiU-0005IY-OR; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:47:10 +0200 Message-ID: <4CE0F38D.6070508@icyb.net.ua> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:47:09 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101029 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Jeremy References: <4CD7C15D.2010203@icyb.net.ua> <20101108150306.GB17517@wep4035.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <4CD8132D.9090902@icyb.net.ua> <20101113192506.GC29660@lonesome.com> <4CDEE881.201@icyb.net.ua> <20101114190640.GA13056@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20101114190640.GA13056@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.7.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:47:17 -0000 on 14/11/2010 21:06 Peter Jeremy said the following: > On 2010-Nov-13 21:35:29 +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: >> I think that you refer to upgrades of the "Xorg bundle" as a whole. >> Not sure if we've had any problems like that when upgrading between minor >> versions of a single module, even such as xorg server. > > Looking back through my gripe list, apart from the general X11 build > system regressions going from 6.9 to 7.0 (reducing portability and > roughly doubling the overall build time), _all_ of the regressions, > POLA violations and general breakage I have run into have been related > to the X server (though some may be DRI/DRM and input/output device). > Actually, now even I can recall my confusion with (1) change of default background in root window from the pattern to black; (2) adding dependency on hald and all that came along by default. But I believe that things like that do not happen between minor releases. Anyway, more incentive for all to do testing in advance. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 11:07:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA2D1065761 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4E48FC17 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:07:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id oAFB79b9086484 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:07:09 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id oAFB78FF086482 for freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:07:08 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:07:08 GMT Message-Id: <201011151107.oAFB78FF086482@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:07:09 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o ports/152159 x11 [hang] xorg/x11: X11 freezes with Intel Mobile 965 and o ports/151596 x11 x11/xorg: wacom bamboo button 1 no longer works o ports/151392 x11 [UPDATE] x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati to v6.13.2 o ports/151373 x11 Please upgrade x11-drivers/xf86-video-neomagic to 1.2. o ports/150633 x11 x11-servers/xorg-server: KVM switching causing X serve o ports/150594 x11 [patch] graphics/dri: add support for ATI Radeon HD 42 o ports/150223 x11 [patch] x11-drivers/xorg-drivers/Makefile refers nonex o ports/150155 x11 x11/xorg hangs after xrandr(1) usage o ports/149743 x11 x11/xorg: garbled window since Xorg-7.5 o ports/149636 x11 x11/xorg: buffer overflow in pci_device_freebsd_read_r o ports/149537 x11 I have updated the x11/pixman port to release 0.18.2 o ports/149536 x11 Upgraded x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware port to version o ports/149535 x11 Upgraded x11-drivers/xf86-input-vmmouse port to versio o ports/148744 x11 Add more x11 applications to x11/xorg-apps o ports/148712 x11 [UPDATE] x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati to v6.13.1 o ports/148652 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel support for HM55 o ports/148591 x11 information note for x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics o ports/148444 x11 [hang] x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel: intel driver free o ports/148340 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-neomagic: unresolved symbol xf8 o ports/148095 x11 Regression / bug in x11-servers/xorg-server o ports/148035 x11 [patch] x11/xdm Fix auth in case of ro /usr o ports/148029 x11 Unable to build graphics/libGL o ports/147646 x11 [PATCH] graphics/libGL: fix linking with newer gcc and o ports/147568 x11 [patch] powerpc64 support for x11-servers/xorg-server o ports/147318 x11 [Patch]graphics/libdrm:Fix the PLIST when define WITHO o ports/147267 x11 PORT graphics/libglut should conflict with graphics/fr o ports/147149 x11 x11/xorg: Xorg 7.5 hangs o ports/147125 x11 x11-servers/xorg-vfbserver missing dependency o ports/146473 x11 keysym names are unavailable to x11/xmodmap after upgr o ports/146460 x11 x11/xorg: crash after upgrade to v7.5 with radeon driv o ports/146364 x11 x11/xeyes does not run, and destroy X o ports/146363 x11 error in startup script of x11-fonts/xfs o ports/146321 x11 x11/libSM picks the wrong uuid.h o ports/146264 x11 [regression] x11-servers/xorg-server 1.7.5,1 xorg.conf o ports/146258 x11 x11-fonts/xfs: doc/pdf doesn't build o ports/146256 x11 x11/xorg does fails to start after upgrade from 7.4 to o ports/145658 x11 x11-servers/xephyr: XGetVisualInfo returns multiple XV o ports/145649 x11 x11/xorg: X server crashes when starting opengl compos o ports/145218 x11 x11/xorg and x11/xorg-minimal fail to build on a fresh o ports/144598 x11 Makefile / pkg-plist issue with x11-drivers/xf86-video o ports/144287 x11 [PATCH] graphics/libGL and friends: Fix build with new o ports/142069 x11 x11/xorg: After adding on a laptop Toshiba Sattelite L o ports/141660 x11 x11/xorg: X can't determine amount of video memory on o ports/141386 x11 x11/xorg won't build from ports o ports/141272 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati and x11-drivers/xf86-video- o ports/141223 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-chips needs to be updated to 1. o ports/141145 x11 devel/makedepend: causes problem with openssl & X o ports/141116 x11 [hang] x11/xorg: ATI radeon xorg freezes [regression] o ports/140809 x11 x11/xorg: Xorg 7.4 radeon drm crashes 8.0 o ports/140775 x11 x11/xorg: fatal trap 12 after closing XORG with CTRL-A o ports/140764 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-openchrome segfaults with VIA K o ports/140254 x11 x11-drivers/xf86-video-cirrus: Black Screen with Cirru o ports/139509 x11 x11-servers/xorg-server: runtime problems in latest (2 o ports/139011 x11 [patch] Add options to support GLX TLS in x11-servers o ports/137748 x11 x11/xorg: "unprocessed" mouse click results in effecti o ports/137731 x11 [patch] x11-drivers/xf86-input-vmmouse o ports/135276 x11 x11/xorg: GUI running first time only while using Free o ports/134643 x11 [patch] x11-servers/xorg-server - Unbreak Xorg 7.4 ser o ports/134244 x11 x11/xorg: "intel" driver for Xorg is very broken o ports/134132 x11 x11-servers/xorg-server: Intel i845 - xorg.conf with U o ports/134082 x11 x11/xdriinfo: xdriinfo-1.0.2 build fail o ports/133946 x11 x11-servers/xorg-server [patch] X crashes in xinerama o ports/133482 x11 x11/libXext "Generic Event Extension not available" er o ports/133465 x11 x11/xorg: X crashes with mplayer -vo xv with xf86-vide o ports/132621 x11 x11/xorg tries to install event when deselected o ports/132403 x11 x11/xorg with Radeon X600 (R370): cannot re-initialize o ports/132041 x11 x11/xorg: Broken Intel video driver o ports/131930 x11 [PATCH] x11-servers/xorg-server coredumps on exit o ports/131726 x11 x11-servers/xorg-server: xorg server messes with my eh s kern/130478 x11 [request] Port Linux kernel stub of nouveau to FreeBSD o ports/125883 x11 x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-cyrillic is installed, but fonts o ports/122830 x11 x11/xorg: Error in I830WaitLpRing() o ports/120947 x11 x11/xsm ignores system.xsm and .xsmstartup s ports/117907 x11 x11-servers/mga_hal broken on 7.0-BETA (GLIBC error) 74 problems total. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 11:21:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BDA21065698 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:21:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) Received: from mailrelay008.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay008.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6E18FC22 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:21:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AksFAOqe4Exbsbh1/2dsb2JhbACUVI4Bcrt/hUoE Received: from 117.184-177-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org) ([91.177.184.117]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2010 11:51:49 +0100 Received: from kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id oAFApl7Q002512; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:51:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@coosemans.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:51:36 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-STABLE; KDE/4.5.2; i386; ; ) References: <49815.1289768410@pcbsd.org> <7E4D84EF-E44E-4B4E-90E6-1CCB7D144DB9@ixsystems.com> In-Reply-To: <7E4D84EF-E44E-4B4E-90E6-1CCB7D144DB9@ixsystems.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1754116.Zoi52PkjZd"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201011151151.45478.tijl@coosemans.org> Cc: Anonymous , Andriy Gapon , Alexey Shuvaev , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Josh Paetzel , Mark Linimon Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.7.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:21:12 -0000 --nextPart1754116.Zoi52PkjZd Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sunday 14 November 2010 23:02:42 Josh Paetzel wrote: > Area51 is quite cloneable it terms of infrastructure and what not. We > could very easily provide an SVN repo for experimental xoeg work. It would be better if there was a repo for ports development on the FreeBSD servers. There are several projects now that could use this that I think this is warranted. It would increase their visibility and lower the barrier to entry to attract contributors and testers. It doesn't have to be anything complicated. An SVN repo that tracks CVS and on which ports committers can create project branches would be enough. --nextPart1754116.Zoi52PkjZd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iF4EABEIAAYFAkzhEMEACgkQfoCS2CCgtisE2AD+NN5MK+3no03QDxB6YGqHvKH2 NvWNRhb6VZ5EF767LyQA/RfNQ89ZfjWX9IL9dHoh/0oTux6igA1RQFNcxJpPZhj7 =OD0t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1754116.Zoi52PkjZd-- From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 14:16:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08D0106566C; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gljennjohn@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5A28FC08; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm19 with SMTP id 19so3943862fxm.13 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:16:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ytAtg1SsVTWzfVyb8JM0o3jCf3s+xPuEqt5/HYKLQXc=; b=ok94KXd3bxjyLAkDXhIll0fxr5+OYh+SOtQrh9UFChl6JXxoZIpHrnH4XWZ09X4NAE iApmVXIm8vhV/Tr4FT8fTyfEpw3gggQQCPtorTrYXTHbX64MbKzqvMZi0awKqVTU0rY+ If+ZKUB8aGJKb6MTVg/YJqiHTmf3icPgWV1jU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CIkDzx5ICiJjkhlUSFVylrAt0ij6CE31PRKXalQ1Jm1hUPyBf2PUJqDkUf3jZFGov+ XEnfqzvTt30ywm807EP94V8DzWhuZx2Bvfofxf2nexuAWdH3KWztVfrD6+bic+cj9CrR 3LaeHVupXW5TFCnsQrNu8e5ZFiUPNHOoRGKj4= Received: by 10.223.79.71 with SMTP id o7mr4632940fak.116.1289830577966; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:16:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from ernst.jennejohn.org (p578E2E74.dip.t-dialin.net [87.142.46.116]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l24sm862910fam.31.2010.11.15.06.16.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:16:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 15:16:14 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20101115151614.4a5522c5@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: References: <4CD7C15D.2010203@icyb.net.ua> <20101108150306.GB17517@wep4035.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <4CD8132D.9090902@icyb.net.ua> <20101113192506.GC29660@lonesome.com> <4CDEE881.201@icyb.net.ua> <4CE01110.6030102@icyb.net.ua> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.18.7; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Alexey Shuvaev , Mark Linimon , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, Andriy Gapon , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.7.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gljennjohn@googlemail.com List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:16:19 -0000 On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:24:44 -0700 (MST) Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 14 Nov 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: > > > on 14/11/2010 18:18 Warren Block said the following: > >> On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: > >> > >>> I agree, but I am not sure how in the ports land we do an application testing in > >>> general. That is, I am sure there will be a lot of testers if the port update > >>> is actually committed :-) but I am not sure how to test it in advance (given all > >>> the possible hardware and software configurations). > >> > >> Why not just create a new xorg-server177 or xorg-server-devel port as has been > >> done with other ports? > > > > Would it be really worth it? > > 1.7.7 is just couple of minor releases ahead of what we have now and the latest > > _release_ is 1.9.2. > > So, xorg-server-devel for 1.9.2 - that would make sense for my taste. > > xorg-server-devel for 1.7.7 - just an overcautiousness and, IMO, a waste of > > resources. > > It would depend on how compatible the newer server is with the existing > xorg ports. But sure, go with the newest one that still works. > 1.9.2 requires an update of MESA to a much more recent version than we currently have in ports. I tried the "modify Makefile and install" route yesterday and it failed because of that. > If these ports are too shaky for normal users, they wouldn't even have > to go in the tree. Put them on a web page somewhere. But this would > ast least allow a wider range of testing. > I installed 1.7.7 the end of September, without modifying/reinstalling any other ports, and it just worked. -- Gary Jennejohn From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 14:21:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0B01065670; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:21:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@ixsystems.com) Received: from mail.iXsystems.com (newknight.ixsystems.com [206.40.55.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669178FC12; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:21:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ixsystems.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5477A664AC; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:21:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.iXsystems.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ixsystems.com (mail.ixsystems.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 55352-07; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:21:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from tcbug.ixsystems.com (unknown [10.10.1.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.iXsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7D1A3A66410; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:21:12 -0800 (PST) From: Josh Paetzel Organization: iXsystems To: Tijl Coosemans Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:21:03 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.4.5; amd64; ; ) References: <49815.1289768410@pcbsd.org> <7E4D84EF-E44E-4B4E-90E6-1CCB7D144DB9@ixsystems.com> <201011151151.45478.tijl@coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <201011151151.45478.tijl@coosemans.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1480745.tcOtldmJNQ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201011150821.10564.josh@ixsystems.com> Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, Andriy Gapon , Anonymous , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Alexey Shuvaev , Mark Linimon Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.7.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:21:13 -0000 --nextPart1480745.tcOtldmJNQ Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Monday, November 15, 2010 04:51:36 am Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Sunday 14 November 2010 23:02:42 Josh Paetzel wrote: > > Area51 is quite cloneable it terms of infrastructure and what not. We > > could very easily provide an SVN repo for experimental xoeg work. >=20 > It would be better if there was a repo for ports development on the > FreeBSD servers. There are several projects now that could use this > that I think this is warranted. It would increase their visibility and > lower the barrier to entry to attract contributors and testers. >=20 > It doesn't have to be anything complicated. An SVN repo that tracks CVS > and on which ports committers can create project branches would be > enough. While conceptually that sounds very simple, an SVN repo that tracks a CVS r= epo=20 is very complicated. One of the most complicated parts of the FreeBSD src= =20 repo being in SVN is the SVN -> CVS exporter. The main issue is there are= =20 operations that don't map 1:1 across both repos that have to be dealt with = by=20 hand. I wasn't proposing that, I think area51 is just a place to check in=20 experimental ports. The merge back to FreeBSD has to be done by hand. The main difference to me is by running it on a PC-BSD infrastructure box I= =20 can just set it up today and have it running and usable in a few hours. =20 Punting it back to the FreeBSD project....by the time it's all sorted and u= p=20 and running it will be spring of 2011. :) =20 =2D-=20 Thanks, Josh Paetzel Director of IT, iXsystems Servers For Open Source http://www.ixsystems.com --nextPart1480745.tcOtldmJNQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAABAgAGBQJM4UHVAAoJEKFq1/n1feG26VYH/jap2J90V+e41McvINnwp2Ne 9fHfsyiJwHLsX/t+hK89hFtCX1ivz91M1oX+eYP0L1eModeD18jCd/1lK3xmR7tJ +YUwZoCvV3l5f/HhnRUY1+8YBNQ1cEIAZBlTu2a07NsVXuAGuVDh37c/sJmRyE+p SjkEKizw6tPSG+gsFteTcHuDJhdgNKefKG3a9w/5PXFOqW7wNljn1mWitPwIIhCZ zXcca+zDMiTp3QQ/zmkXfLNQt2UwM5lm3/ZFa5zf+AmPnqnyi0ItPtv6XzVRKhcR u/I7G8GM0vmXMlCIHHDTe5TdmockjS5358IOL8LSybc17b6qZqYIkzIFw583osE= =KDOG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1480745.tcOtldmJNQ-- From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 14:21:48 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1305106566B; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:21:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B398FC17; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:21:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odyssey.starpoint.kiev.ua (alpha-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.101]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id QAA16111; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:21:34 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Message-ID: <4CE141ED.6070705@icyb.net.ua> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:21:33 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101029 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gljennjohn@googlemail.com References: <4CD7C15D.2010203@icyb.net.ua> <20101108150306.GB17517@wep4035.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <4CD8132D.9090902@icyb.net.ua> <20101113192506.GC29660@lonesome.com> <4CDEE881.201@icyb.net.ua> <4CE01110.6030102@icyb.net.ua> <20101115151614.4a5522c5@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <20101115151614.4a5522c5@ernst.jennejohn.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Alexey Shuvaev , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.7.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:21:48 -0000 on 15/11/2010 16:16 Gary Jennejohn said the following: > 1.9.2 requires an update of MESA to a much more recent version than we > currently have in ports. I tried the "modify Makefile and install" > route yesterday and it failed because of that. I have installed and been using newer Mesa for quite a while now, without any issue. I also satisfied other updates needed for xorg server 1.9.2 (don't remember what they were, some two other xorg lightweight ports). But personally for me the following bug is a showstopper for using 1.8.x or 1.9.x: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28181 > I installed 1.7.7 the end of September, without modifying/reinstalling > any other ports, and it just worked. This matches my experience too - no hassle, no problems. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 17:00:20 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CB81065674 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 17:00:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beat@FreeBSD.org) Received: from marvin.chruetertee.ch (marvin.chruetertee.ch [217.150.245.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5235D8FC17 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 17:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from daedalus.network.local ([195.141.49.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by marvin.chruetertee.ch (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oAFGjIB1000184 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:45:18 GMT (envelope-from beat@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4CE163A7.2050206@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 17:45:27 +0100 From: Beat Gaetzi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101028 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Moore References: <49815.1289768410@pcbsd.org> In-Reply-To: <49815.1289768410@pcbsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: xorg-server 1.7.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 17:00:20 -0000 On 14.11.2010 22:00, Kris Moore wrote: > On Sun 14/11/10 3:44 PM , Anonymous wrote: >> Kris Moore writes: >>> On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 12:24:44PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: >>>> On Sun, 14 Nov 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: >>>> >>>>> on 14/11/2010 18:18 Warren Block said the following: >>>>>> On Sat, 13 Nov 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree, but I am not sure how in the ports land we do an >> application testing in >>>>>>> general. That is, I am sure there will be a lot of testers if >> the port update >>>>>>> is actually committed :-) but I am not sure how to test it in >> advance (given all >>>>>>> the possible hardware and software configurations). >>>>>> >>>>>> Why not just create a new xorg-server177 or xorg-server-devel >> port as has been >>>>>> done with other ports? >>>>> >>>>> Would it be really worth it? >>>>> 1.7.7 is just couple of minor releases ahead of what we have now >> and the latest >>>>> _release_ is 1.9.2. >>>>> So, xorg-server-devel for 1.9.2 - that would make sense for my >> taste. >>>>> xorg-server-devel for 1.7.7 - just an overcautiousness and, IMO, >> a waste of >>>>> resources. >>>> >>>> It would depend on how compatible the newer server is with the >> existing >>>> xorg ports. But sure, go with the newest one that still works. >>>> >>>> If these ports are too shaky for normal users, they wouldn't even >> have >>>> to go in the tree. Put them on a web page somewhere. But this >> would >>>> ast least allow a wider range of testing. >>> >>> Does the xorg porting team have a repo somewhere for port work, ala >> area51 >>> for KDE4? If not, would setting one up be of interest to people >> here? That >>> probably be a service we could easily provide, since we are >> particularly >>> attached to having a working Xorg ;) >> It has one >> http://wiki.freebsd.org/ModularXorg/7.5 >> Not sure about previous major updates. With history scattered across >> several development repos[*] it can be quite hard to track. >> [*] no one uses branches in ports tree (shuns CVS?) >> >> > > Are those SVN services still in use? Looking at the http links on that page I assumed it was old and no longer usable. The server and the repository is still available but nobody is using it at the moment. So I forgot to update the configuration for the xorg-dev repo with the last server update. This should be fixed now. Beat From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 16 06:42:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE28106566C for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 06:42:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from logan@xentac.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07FB8FC0C for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 06:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwd6 with SMTP id 6so370122qwd.13 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:42:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.218.143 with SMTP id hq15mr6025229qcb.34.1289888075147; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:14:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.28.20 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:14:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:14:35 +1300 Message-ID: From: Logan Moore To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Using XOrg on a FreeBSD Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 06:42:58 -0000 I'm looking for some advice from some of the pro's here. I've set up FreeBSD on one of my servers, and I have a nice 24" 1920x1200 monitor plugged into it. It seems a shame to be wasting such a decent monitor on a simple black and white terminal, so I've been contemplating installing XOrg on the server to get a bit of extra functionality from the terminals. I'm not thinking KDE or Gnome... just a simple window manager like one of the *box's or even just straight up xdm running terminals and maybe some basic GUI tools like a text editor/file manager. Should I be concerned about any security implications from using XOrg? Are there any reasons why I definitely should avoid installing XOrg? - Logan From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 16 18:05:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B3D106566C for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:05:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vulpes.vvelox.net (sula-ki.vvelox.net [99.69.115.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062C38FC0C for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net (unknown [192.168.14.2]) (Authenticated sender: v.velox) by vulpes.vvelox.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6EA7FB88E; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:52:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:48:04 -0600 From: "Zane C.B." To: Logan Moore Message-ID: <20101116114804.7c9d63ea@vixen42.vulpes.vvelox.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/HQ6b.3CA4xckX9fEg/yXho1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using XOrg on a FreeBSD Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:05:21 -0000 --Sig_/HQ6b.3CA4xckX9fEg/yXho1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:14:35 +1300 Logan Moore wrote: > I'm looking for some advice from some of the pro's here. >=20 > I've set up FreeBSD on one of my servers, and I have a nice 24" > 1920x1200 monitor plugged into it. It seems a shame to be wasting > such a decent monitor on a simple black and white terminal, so I've > been contemplating installing XOrg on the server to get a bit of > extra functionality from the terminals. I'm not thinking KDE or > Gnome... just a simple window manager like one of the *box's or > even just straight up xdm running terminals and maybe some basic > GUI tools like a text editor/file manager. >=20 > Should I be concerned about any security implications from using > XOrg? Are there any reasons why I definitely should avoid > installing XOrg? I would suggest not using any thing graphical as that can make it problematic to use with a IPKVM, which I would suggest using as there is really no good reason in general to leave a monitor plugged into a server. There are not likely to be any security issues, if you don't have it listening on a public interface. --Sig_/HQ6b.3CA4xckX9fEg/yXho1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkziw9oACgkQqrJJy0yxYQD5zQCghQ/CnXSTsMoopU6paRdJ7bZy 8w0AniL9pYprMkPoCBByafz2tJu9xPDx =pbGP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/HQ6b.3CA4xckX9fEg/yXho1-- From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 16 18:30:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122E7106566B for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:30:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1E88FC17 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:30:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oAGITmW8081438; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:30:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id oAGITlQd081437; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:29:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:29:47 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <201011161829.oAGITlQd081437@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG, logan@xentac.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-x11 User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.5 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:30:03 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: Using XOrg on a FreeBSD Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG, logan@xentac.com List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:30:06 -0000 Logan Moore wrote: > I've set up FreeBSD on one of my servers, and I have a nice 24" 1920x1200 > monitor plugged into it. It seems a shame to be wasting such a decent > monitor on a simple black and white terminal, so I've been contemplating > installing XOrg on the server to get a bit of extra functionality from the > terminals. I'm not thinking KDE or Gnome... just a simple window manager > like one of the *box's or even just straight up xdm running terminals and > maybe some basic GUI tools like a text editor/file manager. I would connect the monitor to a machine where it is more useful, i.e. a PC or workstation, and let the server run headless. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using XOrg on a FreeBSD Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:41:07 -0000 --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 07:14:35PM +1300, Logan Moore wrote: > I'm looking for some advice from some of the pro's here. >=20 > I've set up FreeBSD on one of my servers, and I have a nice 24" 1920x1200 > monitor plugged into it.=20 Does it have a decent video card that is supported by Xorg and can actually drive it? > It seems a shame to be wasting such a decent > monitor on a simple black and white terminal, so I've been contemplating > installing XOrg on the server to get a bit of extra functionality from the > terminals. I'm not thinking KDE or Gnome... just a simple window manager > like one of the *box's or even just straight up xdm running terminals and > maybe some basic GUI tools like a text editor/file manager. Be aware that the modular Xorg consists of a lot of ports. A quick & dirty = count ('pkg_info -rx xorg- | grep Dependency|sort|uniq|wc -l') gives 139 ports required by xorg. > Should I be concerned about any security implications from using XOrg? Xorg requires write access to /dev/mem and /dev/io, which doesn't work if y= ou are running in secure mode (kern.securelevel > 1). I think it will work if = you raise the securelevel after starting X. But you cannot restart X. Also, x-terminals like xterm or urxvt are usually installed setuid root. By default, Xorg also listens for network connections. You can disable this= by adding the '-nolisten tcp' option to the X server arguments, e.g. use 'star= tx -- -nolisten tcp'. > Are there any reasons why I definitely should avoid installing XOrg? Depends on how paranoid you are, I guess. :-) One could take the position t= hat every added application is a possible security hole, and that a server shou= ld only have the applications and libraries required for its tasks installed. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkzizaoACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWswACcCOjrSna1y1JRgCQRw2wI0DH+ 9YAAnA+YZtBnqLvL7qMTAMP8bOFE2S0b =fdNi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UugvWAfsgieZRqgk-- From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 16 20:24:02 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A172E106566C for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102CC8FC18 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p549A74D2.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.116.210]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id oAGK1GaA073635; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:01:17 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAGK1Fm6051941; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:01:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oAGK14F7065027; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:01:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201011162001.oAGK14F7065027@fire.js.berklix.net> To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, logan@xentac.com From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:29:47 +0100." <201011161829.oAGITlQd081437@lurza.secnetix.de> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 21:01:04 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Subject: Re: Using XOrg on a FreeBSD Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:24:02 -0000 > From: Oliver Fromme Oliver Fromme wrote: > Logan Moore wrote: > > I've set up FreeBSD on one of my servers, and I have a nice 24" 1920x1200 > > monitor plugged into it. It seems a shame to be wasting such a decent > > monitor on a simple black and white terminal, so I've been contemplating > > installing XOrg on the server to get a bit of extra functionality from the > > terminals. I'm not thinking KDE or Gnome... just a simple window manager > > like one of the *box's or even just straight up xdm running terminals and > > maybe some basic GUI tools like a text editor/file manager. > > I would connect the monitor to a machine where it is more > useful, i.e. a PC or workstation, and let the server run > headless. Yes. Same on remote servers & home gateways. No X. SUID 0 programs accumulate with X, & more libs indexed by ldconfig to trust. Some older servers have little memory. X servers hog memory: Some have memory leaks I've heard, mine just starts bloated, `top` shows SIZE=167 Meg, RES=73548K, but doesn`t leak worse after that. (1600x1200 & xdm & fvwm with 24 panels, eg 4 x FvwmPagerLabel each with DeskTopSize 3x2 # wide x high ) Even if some X will get swapped out if inactive, I suppose vibrating a mouse could swap out tons of processes & zap server response. I've had workstations where the graphics card locked the machine up, & needed a cold reboot to clear it (& or a replacement) The less to go wrong in a server the better, especially if there's no one there 24/7 to reset. ( eg best also have no SLIP, PLIP, USB to external devices, no CDROM drives that accelerate hard & pull power rails etc). + if you ever get frustrated (eg with some xauth, dns, ipfw, configs that don't play), & want to do a quick dirty debug with "xhost +" better not expose your display on a public server. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not HTML, quoted-printable & base 64 spam formats. Avoid top posting, it cripples itemised cumulative responses. From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 16 22:05:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298961065670 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9068FC12 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oAGM5A1w090979; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:05:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id oAGM5Awn090978; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:05:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:05:10 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <201011162205.oAGM5Awn090978@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <201011162001.oAGK14F7065027@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-x11 User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.5 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:05:25 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: Using XOrg on a FreeBSD Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:05:27 -0000 Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Some older servers have little memory. X servers hog memory: > Some have memory leaks I've heard, > mine just starts bloated, `top` shows SIZE=167 Meg, > RES=73548K, but doesn`t leak worse after that. Here's mine: PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 1273 root 1 44 0 312M 274M select 1 4:20 0.00% Xorg But it doesn't actually use that much RAM, because the process contains multiple mappings of the frame buffer and other device memory. According to procstat(1) and a bit of awk (*), the device mappings are 290 MB, so only 22 MB are left, which isn't really that huge (this box has 4 GB RAM). Best regards Oliver (*) # procstat -v 1273 \ | awk '$10 == "dv" {s += $3 - $2} END {print s / 1048576}' 289.828 -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "The most important decision in [programming] language design concerns what is to be left out." -- Niklaus Wirth From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 18 23:40:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375AF1065673 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:40:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E468FC1B for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:40:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id oAINeC3v064906 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:40:12 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id oAINeCwb064905; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:40:12 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:40:12 GMT Message-Id: <201011182340.oAINeCwb064905@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org From: Dimitry Andric Cc: Subject: Re: ports/147646: [PATCH] graphics/libGL: fix linking with newer gcc and binutils X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dimitry Andric List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:40:12 -0000 The following reply was made to PR ports/147646; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dimitry Andric To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, avg@icyb.net.ua Cc: Subject: Re: ports/147646: [PATCH] graphics/libGL: fix linking with newer gcc and binutils Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 00:39:56 +0100 This is probably a better fix, since adding -Bsymbolic to *all* linker invocations is, ahem, just a little bit overkill: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/patch/?id=cb09d1ef60dae3b3c44f1370fd2f726c7044bc17 They're simply using the incorrect relocation type in their hand-written assembly stubs... But how to get this patch into all ports that use the Mesa tarball? Some hack in graphics/libGL/bsd.mesalib.mk perhaps? From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 19 16:27:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF701065673 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:27:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@intron.ac) Received: from intron.ac (unknown [174.121.197.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EEE8FC18 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:27:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 65534) by intron.ac with local; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:37:53 +0800 id 000000000E180BD1.000000004CE68BC1.00003D8C From: intron@intron.ac To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:37:52 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Subject: Anyone working for GEM/KMS ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:27:56 -0000 If anyone is working for GEM/KMS, I would join. If no one is working for them, who would? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From Beijing, China From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 19 17:01:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07B1106566B for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:01:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@freebsd.org) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FAA8FC08 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:01:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odyssey.starpoint.kiev.ua (alpha-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.101]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id TAA16352; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:01:42 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <4CE6AD76.4050007@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:01:42 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101029 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: intron@intron.ac References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone working for GEM/KMS ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:01:46 -0000 on 19/11/2010 16:37 intron@intron.ac said the following: > If anyone is working for GEM/KMS, I would join. > If no one is working for them, who would? Is this a polite form of volunteering? -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 20 18:13:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F271065670 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:13:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from super_bisquit@yahoo.com) Received: from nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 76ADD8FC0C for ; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Nov 2010 18:00:29 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.253] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Nov 2010 18:00:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1045.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Nov 2010 18:00:29 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 336485.36348.bm@omp1045.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 60527 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Nov 2010 18:00:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1290276028; bh=f2OjjPccyFkQ4CLvls05Vk0/Bd679kC9y6vmxDwkeNw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pFy83ZJFKyn4VNZCMhgGcVIGkXO7+QAN/OC7aNCxCDi+MXelE1NyHTWOEdQYijYPqf5Ajt4e3Xi4PhTGw3rLgTCWuY0G6yWevjjxDmFQd1FmvZHOonuoDD59+f2ho+ldGJ1Gs/F8SohnHYsRnGXOwwJzgPv3GrrUk4whEgJBrz8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ubSsNONPDC9RkQvwBTwiSONmZJVrApRusZu2Cu5VqjaCO7rc8+c17Gnssa01iYHJrbFkHVSl1r+Dvvrs9NfhAib7Rw3gIyos2zgsI0GnCWwcjkkfJLHA4ot4GEvouqwc/kb8KLF61EzByjlYEQei04gRNFVattUSYkXORG11YCs=; Message-ID: <681433.59433.qm@web110101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: rCHwJfsVM1kfW3pdGubfi27mHLVm0D1zHdu_bkPUSnlOJLX nqGpzmc0DJogjvSxWVmvuCI0FkADn325cQcx9K5r5E9GnTD2LmWXMmZCQtjA 9PDSEgKFrw0InAoUbxXpnnMrAZiSXgWRMhkm8FTa9t4R8dyq0bwFp43AKhmV ALbeJyyXsBI0frLSzM2_pOch5We3Zbf2DYtrbPxffu6hiTaM33QJdc.hkCHP wLWWZMLZs5Yli4a.r0CN6H6la.r9UuNUSilhIrDJ.0.NDc3v4eyLyv80sIok MHB8EGv5cS3F9tUB6F5PofuUQyQ-- Received: from [98.192.248.233] by web110101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:00:28 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.9 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:00:28 -0800 (PST) From: Super Biscuit To: current@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: drm.ko does not build on powerpc X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:13:06 -0000 I'm using SNAPSHOT-9 (Current) powerpc from people.freebsd.org/~whitehorn. The build in /usr/src/sys/.../drm/drm stops with specialreg.h Using find -f /|grep specialreg.h only shows the file in x86, amd64, and pc98. I already have agp.ko built. Does this require cross compiling or is a "prebuilt" drm.ko for ppc32 available? If it does require cross compiling or even importing- I have a few i386 machines- How would I enable or use it on ppc? Thanks/ From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 20 20:02:10 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4274F106566B; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andreast@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.fgznet.ch (mail.fgznet.ch [81.92.96.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B752F8FC0A; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from deuterium.andreas.nets (dhclient-91-190-8-131.flashcable.ch [91.190.8.131]) by smtp.fgznet.ch (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit_SMTPAUTH) with ESMTP id oAKJfaEW024490; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:41:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreast@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4CE82470.4090606@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:41:36 +0100 From: Andreas Tobler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Super Biscuit References: <681433.59433.qm@web110101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <681433.59433.qm@web110101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 81.92.96.47 Cc: freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: drm.ko does not build on powerpc X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 20:02:10 -0000 On 20.11.10 19:00, Super Biscuit wrote: > I'm using SNAPSHOT-9 (Current) powerpc from people.freebsd.org/~whitehorn. Can you update the src to something after 16.11? Nathan did commit a (build) fix around the 16.11. Gruss, Andreas