From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 00:41:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D701065675 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 00:41:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A121D8FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 00:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywf9 with SMTP id 9so1375843ywf.13 for ; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 16:41:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=QaC+N3U8xj1t2viifCTckRC3qKwyYtf24i6FRJkO/wo=; b=eDKN8GSP9XFqpFLXUSAPe6qMyosDQkunu9Pa26wpfbBCUCdpWr/HFvyKUIl6utKM6p tutxZFefnEJj8l3ELDs24ABi3W7BrK0aGbt18PCDf3Wo+AlMvVOKjbQSHhh6oMt1KT20 SoM2SG5GWle+mAKOGzOvzB5Ar/uqtvWyQZjtk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=APZLqbi/Bp0bjxj5euPizF3PxmG00hylrqAgSiwBM+ddzBkN+6+34AS7ulLuyhU0Ol 4pFxSJQbYVUCSz5pcjCyVtkYkSt6yPqIn20bUgAAzXweDuycRJsSE5GBuj2ugGG7JwJ1 Pur+g4YhgShF1prpQH9dTtei68c3f31m84BTU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.191.7 with SMTP id f7mr636997yhn.89.1299372110783; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 16:41:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.108.44 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 16:41:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 00:41:50 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: demelier.david@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: optical driver with ahci bios mode but ata(4) driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 00:41:52 -0000 On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:31 PM, David Demelier wrote: > Hello, > > My bios can be set to use IDE emulation or ahci mode, I prefere the ahci > mode because it's a bit faster. > > It's probably stupid to stay with ata(4) driver with the ahci mode, isn't > it? But with ahci(4) driver you can't burn with burncd(8) and cdrecord just > fail and break an blank cd for nothing. > > I guess this is the correct behavior when trying to use burncd(8) / > cdcontrol(1) : > > markand at Melon ~ $ burncd msinfo > burncd: ioctl(CDIOREADTOCHEADER): Input/output error > > markand at Melon ~ $ cdcontrol info > cdcontrol: getting toc header: Input/output error > cdcontrol: Input/output error > > But why the optical drive is only affected? If I use ata(4) driver even with > ahci mode set in the bios, why the hard drive works pretty well? You may still be using AHCI, via the ataahci part of ata(4), which is not as good as the newer driver ahci(4). (Or your BIOS may be lying, or have some legacy work-around.) I've had occasional trouble with cdrecord and cd(4), too, and I found that some of the errors are innocuous, and can be overcome by using the -immed and -force flags with cdrecord. There are also some patches available to improve compatibility between the two, that the submitter has not had time to commit: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2010-November/020944.html Those may solve some problems. Also, there are various settings that one can tweak. But we would know more if you provided verbose listings of the errors that you encounter. The upstream developer of cdrtools is occasionally willing to help diagnose some problems, if you ask politely and give him the necessary information. You might try asking him. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 02:52:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE2F106566C for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 02:52:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73888FC17 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 02:51:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so3508877iyj.13 for ; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 18:51:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=QdELK/rykuwLXqNn0WTu8Ds1tbxLgwGt99y9H4dcP78=; b=jIYK3npsRgWdoXCBtxOmg9KsP81ONUmlW8m75BYOgSQq2aMZiSumOXKBzFNxHiBHQT 8F49g0QU+tF606z3l/xskPVESJBoJmT/ozvz2HPoWARpQ08beNGaY9XDMS56o2kljWtq X5znAdB1nia2Hw9N90bR2gYeDrvkRJfQbC9cQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=qseqSZ+JAI/ZKOE/9TcCB5PRm59NX5dzuwMJhIQ4P3TvKQpO9heo+zsyGjJ5ilBo8W C7DaKC+r2xRDWKphJIAez/z22qXJLa2OmNJBRRexuIA2MFfOAQz6cdMG4TktlOG/a3pr i4CGliqZVtnsciYTEV8DeQ82EBue+Ua87Jvm8= Received: by 10.231.39.135 with SMTP id g7mr1679532ibe.173.1299379918303; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 18:51:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm1182196iba.10.2011.03.05.18.51.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Mar 2011 18:51:57 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:52:00 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201103052052.00749.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: python27 update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 02:52:00 -0000 My system: 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0 I tried to update python26 to python27. I did as I red in /usr/ports/UPDATING: portmaster -o lang/python27 lang/python26 and than cd /usr/ports/lang/python && make upgrade-site-packages -DUSE_PORTMASTER and after one day and a half of pressing yes for deleting old files I got: ----- error: Comand" cc - shared -pthread -02 -pipe -WI, -rpath -/usr/local/lib/gcc45 -fno -strict -aliasing build/temp. freebsd-8.2-RELEASE- i386-2.7/build/src.freebsd-8.2-RELEASE-i386-2.7/numpy/core/src/-sortmudele.o - Lbuild/temp.freebsd-8.2-RELEASE-i386-2.7-lm -o build/lib-freebsd-8.2-RELEASE- i386-2.7/numpy/core/-sortss" failed with exit status 1 ***Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/math/py-numpy =>>>make failed for math/py-numpy =>> Aborting update =>> Update fpr py26-numpy-1.5.1,1 failled Aborting update Update for opencv-2.1.0 failed aborting update Terminated ***Error code 143 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/python Is it possible to save this problem, please? Do I need run again cd /usr/ports/lang/python && make upgrade-site-packages -DUSE_PORTMASTER and wait one day more or will portmaster continue where it stopped? Thanks in advance... Mitja -------- http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 03:04:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004671065677 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 03:04:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E498FC19 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 03:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm19 with SMTP id 19so3657077fxm.13 for ; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:04:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/tVE4H9wIyLD2on/BZn9e3CuUnMckLOHLnbeGuVtRd4=; b=k5N4Ucx4W1K2edJQJmPj0253xE2TnGUOuSoMZOcu2PRoSAeLMYtnqqRb0KrcgiaHJ7 4OavD32jf1lkmE4VMfrqu0nB9QP07OXL+46melGFirYc/F2kavHmsfoDTZ6JWWXmsBG6 WWfvDDahEJt3fLdt2siIPKBJYvDfaf0N5eOE4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sSEXuMpm0r09ywG6WLPymtpavhkFylvnshkwsOs8vqdXrNj/SNBRUOg0YGGgqB0Kk9 qnaaRuj7rcVl5yObL3bEghFdZGVln4QDrFvKKIrcM1kpb4NWvokCb1OkjnBDoX2SVCMF Jqy/Ob4SSgoZDxdzz/WhdFuD/ij5QmWYNpF04= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.151.9 with SMTP id a9mr802583faw.40.1299380649435; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:04:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.96.203 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 19:04:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201103052052.00749.lumiwa@gmail.com> References: <201103052052.00749.lumiwa@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 22:04:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: ajtiM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: python27 update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 03:04:11 -0000 On 5 March 2011 21:52, ajtiM wrote: > My system: 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0 > > I tried to update python26 to python27. I did as I red in /usr/ports/UPDA= TING: > > portmaster -o lang/python27 lang/python26 and than > > =A0cd /usr/ports/lang/python && make upgrade-site-packages -DUSE_PORTMAST= ER > > and after one day and a half of pressing yes for deleting old files I got= : > ----- > error: Comand" cc - shared -pthread -02 -pipe -WI, -rpath > -/usr/local/lib/gcc45 -fno -strict -aliasing build/temp. freebsd-8.2-RELE= ASE- > i386-2.7/build/src.freebsd-8.2-RELEASE-i386-2.7/numpy/core/src/-sortmudel= e.o - > Lbuild/temp.freebsd-8.2-RELEASE-i386-2.7-lm -o build/lib-freebsd-8.2-RELE= ASE- > i386-2.7/numpy/core/-sortss" > failed with exit status 1 > ***Error code 1 > > > Stop in /usr/ports/math/py-numpy > =3D>>>make failed for math/py-numpy > =3D>> Aborting update > =3D>> Update fpr py26-numpy-1.5.1,1 failled > Aborting update > Update for opencv-2.1.0 failed > aborting update > > Terminated > ***Error code 143 > Stop in /usr/ports/lang/python > > Is it possible to save this problem, please? Do I need run again cd > /usr/ports/lang/python && make upgrade-site-packages -DUSE_PORTMASTER and= wait > one day more or will portmaster continue where it stopped? > I thought portmaster usually spit out a sort of "to resume where you left off, issue 'portmaster blah blah blah'" message when something barfed like that. Set up your /usr/local/etc/portmaster.rc with one of: # Never search for stale distfiles to delete (-D) # DONT_SCRUB_DISTFILES=3DDopt # # Always delete stale distfiles without prompting (-d) # ALWAYS_SCRUB_DISTFILES=3Ddopt (see /usr/local/etc/portmaster.rc.sample) to avoid the "Delete this file?" prompts every three minutes. Sadly, this is one of those times when portupgrade seems to handle things better, but you'll probably have to wait another day to see if things worked out better this time. --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 03:53:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD540106564A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 03:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425368FC15 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 03:53:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb32 with SMTP id 32so3806439wyb.13 for ; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:53:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=R4GJJQ3ZHqmGCY4Ktf67t/YSHrABjiLS08y3nQeqZ5g=; b=GxwlzYvIo/7BPvUOLKi5CHquQIsqx41KYv7tMEAKDI8znQJnWSZxmOhLqhFLlIJgIA z8K4LuL5Gzo3hYaX9TG6n+hojIGEEVkZtP3FWkXVxu+acfFEElCDxoNT5ow5l/8S/h8I IH1+V6CzvGOpiCYfM3p3sLfs+9J+fASYOhOKY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=WOxqweRSMoqb02XQOY1ySvjR/LTrQ4imVc1rt2V6TS8BIyz6MYZBDezeanuvHQBGgw RPuB8QOPh0wrnPY9wmM74dQORA//2Ob16YOAmYrFhweVnlPYDuMMXRlHe9HhgfjeE91i ULoj0iGtPbA7LIsUIEkdbYoEQGx7BO52mDYIU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.131.23 with SMTP id v23mr2080920wbs.53.1299383603021; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 19:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.30.97 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 19:53:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201103052052.00749.lumiwa@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 19:53:22 -0800 Message-ID: From: Nerius Landys To: "illoai@gmail.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: ajtiM , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: python27 update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 03:53:24 -0000 > Sadly, this is one of those times when portupgrade seems > to handle things better, but you'll probably have to wait another > day to see if things worked out better this time. For me, using portupgrade on 3 different systems (7.4 and 8.1) to upgrade Python 2.6 to 2.7 worked like a charm. Just my two cents. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 04:17:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF06106564A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 04:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB9C8FC14 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 04:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyh4 with SMTP id 4so1460984gyh.13 for ; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 20:17:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=C9kWA4lNvdEAEW8lLwFIE+vQ3VebN6paf+mCX3bKQrs=; b=xRPQr4bWJUqcFrX8wbPbwzO1Fqq2Ssv/pj8jV4gAKlSScLRfrUvHy2H8hZ98AK2RQ/ Q/pPOMvfmt82nkEK+jDf4rB/eCwKy8TpEkdWpOXEn2aXhdUmWE2YXaNGmeBsynE1BL/X z60c30RR8LPbDgtOI7VpDbUTLq6uNzB3Kvkxg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=r8pk+PVMVaTQWevb0E5GXZXgwyKB7akaGCaUsDY1+sIC45cDaogxcY4U7dI3s58LJd MpVTTrCdas9m7zsAGQuTYIXewiU+JB0d7bW9UV91m63Nb1jXeUG5J+suAJM4t/HYx8RT LXM9kKu3dMfwZsQmTl0qd+cc+flGkQY6W0v3c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.191.7 with SMTP id f7mr788936yhn.89.1299385077301; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 20:17:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.108.44 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:17:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 04:17:57 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: ajtiM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: python27 update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 04:17:59 -0000 ... > I tried to update python26 to python27. I did as I red in /usr/ports/UPDATING: > > portmaster -o lang/python27 lang/python26 and than > > cd /usr/ports/lang/python && make upgrade-site-packages -DUSE_PORTMASTER > > and after one day and a half of pressing yes for deleting old files I got: Has it been a day and a half already? ;) Seriously, though, read the portmaster manpage and learn how you can take some shortcuts, like running 'portmaster -y --clean-distfiles', or using other flags to lower the amount of interaction required. > ----- > error: Comand" cc - shared -pthread -02 -pipe -WI, -rpath > -/usr/local/lib/gcc45 -fno -strict -aliasing build/temp. freebsd-8.2-RELEASE- > i386-2.7/build/src.freebsd-8.2-RELEASE-i386-2.7/numpy/core/src/-sortmudele.o - > Lbuild/temp.freebsd-8.2-RELEASE-i386-2.7-lm -o build/lib-freebsd-8.2-RELEASE- > i386-2.7/numpy/core/-sortss" > failed with exit status 1 > ***Error code 1 > > > Stop in /usr/ports/math/py-numpy > =>>>make failed for math/py-numpy > =>> Aborting update > =>> Update fpr py26-numpy-1.5.1,1 failled > Aborting update > Update for opencv-2.1.0 failed > aborting update > > Terminated > ***Error code 143 > Stop in /usr/ports/lang/python > You need to update your ports tree to make sure that you pick up: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2011-March/213081.html which should fix the above problem. > Is it possible to save this problem, please? Do I need run again cd > /usr/ports/lang/python && make upgrade-site-packages -DUSE_PORTMASTER and wait > one day more or will portmaster continue where it stopped? Try: ... make upgrade-site-packages -DUSE_PORTMASTER PORTUPGRADE_ARGS="-R" Even if that doesn't work, you won't have to repeat all of your previous work, because those ports that were successfully updated in the last run will no longer have files in the old python26 library directories, and so won't be rebuilt by re-running upgrade site-packages, unless you were to run portmaster with additional flags. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 05:11:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC031065670; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 05:11:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (gerbercreations.com [71.39.140.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD06F8FC08; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 05:11:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (localhost.eyesbeyond.com [127.0.0.1]) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p264nhvD091696; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:49:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p264ngvo091695; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:49:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) X-Authentication-Warning: misty.eyesbeyond.com: glewis set sender to glewis@eyesbeyond.com using -f Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:49:42 -0800 From: Greg Lewis To: Ruslan Mahmatkhanov Message-ID: <20110306044942.GA91668@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: <4D71189C.8050305@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D71189C.8050305@yandex.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: ports@freebsd.org, glewis@freebsd.org, questions , Redd Vinylene Subject: Re: Cannot build jdk16 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 05:11:08 -0000 On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 07:51:40PM +0300, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote: > 04.03.2011 14:23, Redd Vinylene ??????????: > > Hello! > > > > /usr/ports/java/jdk16 instructs me to manually fetch > > tzupdater-1_3_34-2010o.zip and put it in /usr/ports/distfiles - this file > > however is no longer available and has been replaced by > > tzupdater-1_3_35-2011b. So what's the best way of installing jdk16 despite > > of this? Rename tzupdater-1_3_35-2011b to tzupdater-1_3_34-2010o.zip and > > "make -DNO_CHECKSUM"? > > > > Many thanks! > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=155270 ...was committed earlier today. -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com Information Technology FreeBSD : glewis@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 08:15:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE4A106564A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 08:15:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8E78FC0C for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 08:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb31 with SMTP id 31so4330939wwb.31 for ; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 00:15:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iJ5km517oQbEBD/vBsmlbyMOHQM154PHooBqnn9ZNoo=; b=jLpLv7JBfbrWWcWBhsE9+oLGFMklKj3VL22K9bdGlcsi7kQUA/9InbgBLM6X5Z7wi+ RaAZZ23ywNSm+Nyi0DzHkR04CP0vj39Q5cAnJgaxkG/nbtC+eQNospvby9Dh0jUXAkO9 iqVipe+keM8QKd7lWTN5u9rfGxWpq9RzRQ1rA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QxSQjybYfN510ovgoO9AB4uWK+oJ2xh1iL1OwuRFWdKcbWzHKdYtYg9QcDARpON/6+ WBa1S0NNUIJMyBiIsbXvvFVpt3Isd+qIzZ43EmDGUrIpoWGICr5aFunC6HzCjQxUMJgU q71Y4t3I06fyZj1pAPRtVebU2gAQ527nwfyeg= Received: by 10.227.138.220 with SMTP id b28mr2246180wbu.87.1299399331789; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 00:15:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from Melon.malikania.fr (65.21.102-84.rev.gaoland.net [84.102.21.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y29sm1078878wbd.22.2011.03.06.00.15.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 00:15:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D73426F.4080100@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 09:14:39 +0100 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110302 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Paul B. Mahol" References: <4D6BF823.2090602@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: optical driver with ahci bios mode but ata(4) driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 08:15:33 -0000 On 05/03/2011 21:22, Paul B. Mahol wrote: > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:31 PM, David Demelier > wrote: >> Hello, >> >> My bios can be set to use IDE emulation or ahci mode, I prefere the ahci >> mode because it's a bit faster. >> >> It's probably stupid to stay with ata(4) driver with the ahci mode, isn't >> it? But with ahci(4) driver you can't burn with burncd(8) and cdrecord just >> fail and break an blank cd for nothing. >> >> I guess this is the correct behavior when trying to use burncd(8) / >> cdcontrol(1) : >> >> markand@Melon ~ $ burncd msinfo >> burncd: ioctl(CDIOREADTOCHEADER): Input/output error >> >> markand@Melon ~ $ cdcontrol info >> cdcontrol: getting toc header: Input/output error >> cdcontrol: Input/output error >> >> But why the optical drive is only affected? If I use ata(4) driver even with >> ahci mode set in the bios, why the hard drive works pretty well? > > Are you using atapicam module? No I was only using ata, atapicd. I would like to use ahci + cdrecord but it fails to burn too :( -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 08:16:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D031065670 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 08:16:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 377918FC16 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 08:16:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb31 with SMTP id 31so4331393wwb.31 for ; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 00:16:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=315VKMUO9nuknf1sHFbzGWQT/OrFy+Gqd/FYjVIazrM=; b=JqkJ3CbHq9M0uY0hL364ovOAkYJn7mIloMu2vXb2EGE3M3NbmPLbOdhzJ2JU+rBtG6 A2SK1uDhRZX5l8biZvxoKS0LltXDdLwammCOViYo/Mypz1R06ObraMZ0ufjygTwgX1t7 Kolyd6ijOLCBY43U9Zy4i0LsDibujhcOtOAM4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Hum1GEoGumrl7PCox+f9HR3IVjh+di98Oa02i0L6QuGVS5GmJmKf2a18YwGJIwfjr2 onixzZD8tbyACVHex66G2Bu7BJhWy2yJ6ADy/ROyrbC7Rq+MxNpUPb5R/KwP6OU3PxqN W6Pu3XviRePSBI4VBTKyNAR9sJ/ieAEn8b8Ag= Received: by 10.227.195.211 with SMTP id ed19mr2181868wbb.208.1299399399414; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 00:16:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from Melon.malikania.fr (65.21.102-84.rev.gaoland.net [84.102.21.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o6sm1081415wbo.15.2011.03.06.00.16.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 00:16:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D7342B3.9060707@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 09:15:47 +0100 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110302 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4D727264.7040609@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Switching between ttys takes 5 seconds with radeon hd 5670 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 08:16:40 -0000 On 05/03/2011 19:03, Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 5 Mar 2011, David Demelier wrote: > >> I've got a brand new radeon hd 5670, when I switch between ttys it >> takes about 5 seconds to refresh (to show the next tty) > > Do you mean switching between text consoles (ttyv) or between a text > console and X? > No no, I don't have X installed right now, it's only switching between differents terminal ttyv0 -> ttyv1 ; ttyv2 -> ttyv0 ; etc. > Switching between X and a console, or particularly back from a console > to X, is slow unless you have moused_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf. > >> Is this due to the lack of KMS support in FreeBSD? > > Probably not. -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 10:01:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABA6106566C for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:01:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED6E8FC50 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:01:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb32 with SMTP id 32so3922188wyb.13 for ; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 02:00:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/S8OtAo0E4iaXI1bEwcLY8GH2/hrC+SMRc1Uaz5BFd0=; b=StYMGhkOEiZE357IgH+iEuvT5JTUcGaVrmm70Gbc1Rpmy6eU/GuDjA5EEH9KgHNhp9 i8RKkPBtJ9jtFk4y96EubOvvk6qiLWvybdiW+suZbgsdL5rfFOEGM14iyKBgx8hbq3ak eDk8SDGGJC0i5QhjBD6A14OtUlcbEcpXa858I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xd6cuOH4coJQXttT+qHwGP9j9qgjc9tZtEMKyg5sT0PsYz2C56/cOtBxiGuztp2cnk wrd1jJ7BS6E1+JSVLpS1O74KqxZkIUnfr9oeHowD/fHbk3iAtDGsaqtqY1e9J3RWgIdo t1hw6ZDvqEUvRUmZCyxu4aelgIflY9/3XH0Bc= Received: by 10.227.201.8 with SMTP id ey8mr2301311wbb.200.1299405659706; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 02:00:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from Melon.malikania.fr (65.21.102-84.rev.gaoland.net [84.102.21.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w25sm1142758wbd.5.2011.03.06.02.00.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 02:00:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D735B28.3050003@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 11:00:08 +0100 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110302 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4D727264.7040609@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Switching between ttys takes 5 seconds with radeon hd 5670 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 10:01:01 -0000 On 05/03/2011 19:03, Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 5 Mar 2011, David Demelier wrote: > >> I've got a brand new radeon hd 5670, when I switch between ttys it >> takes about 5 seconds to refresh (to show the next tty) > > Do you mean switching between text consoles (ttyv) or between a text > console and X? > > Switching between X and a console, or particularly back from a console > to X, is slow unless you have moused_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf. > >> Is this due to the lack of KMS support in FreeBSD? > > Probably not. I recompiled the kernel with the VESA stuff, it's faster again now. Don't know if it only appears with GENERIC then. -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 10:03:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DEA8106564A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlmichael70@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09058FC19 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:03:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb32 with SMTP id 32so3923372wyb.13 for ; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 02:03:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8b1rb/p079tjBVtowFbiUv8v/UlGj0OVXdLV6TkZzts=; b=lkix9o1EUAictAoy28rFeElF1bCSfb7sJ3iQt7yWvKRmwJroRiQhsfP+c/BWznWU10 Vhnry35lVPfKyUK6GBjF32tcTlpO6MShMemZCZGRdUnMAnQ8tlmDY22JxHZrEmoWBeBu rLQb9E4OiNDl1ZyMEOZMaFSlSwdaUUqFZkrjc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fvjA5A+oEiXU+YhwTySav0WGn4XD9jrrxrVAqyRC8O3c3SGsmdOQQoeczNSFMUlUHW /SLX3Ceqk4/L/qIUR6uHTJw+k6sNNdoMDml/CBUTkFnFk5IV7txcIhfEA6ZQKYGKfsyQ ACzbPnS+LLcgMsiK8TEkT53K/BxmufgOax/R4= Received: by 10.227.196.2 with SMTP id ee2mr2270298wbb.129.1299405835656; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 02:03:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from prime.nonspace ([82.132.211.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y29sm1138417wbd.22.2011.03.06.02.03.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 02:03:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D735C11.1010804@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 10:04:01 +0000 From: Michael User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101215 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eitan Adler References: <4D727076.1070908@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to keep track of data usage (mobile broadband) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 10:03:58 -0000 On 05/03/2011 18:17, Eitan Adler wrote: >> How can I keep track of data usage? It's a laptop so these counters needs to >> be reboot persistent. I'm running 8.1-R with ue0 interface. > > Check out http://humdi.net/vnstat/ and > http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/freebsd-install-vnstat-network-traffic-monitor-software/ > Looks like it's exactly what I was looking for, thanks! Do you have the rc.d script maybe? Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 09:44:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54DEB1065672 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 09:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avstin@mail.ru) Received: from f18.mail.ru (f18.mail.ru [217.69.129.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B988FC13 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 09:44:03 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ru; s=mail; h=Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Reply-To:Date:Mime-Version:Subject:To:From; bh=29uapBOGH+Ku3+1sGpG7jHkmEY7iBHriBzN9EFzRw3s=; b=gbXwDQH92C8CDqumUMbcOmbxALTvuvDkQNoR373xxfvIaXyis7L6SWt1tB+jkky2Fg8g6Z6vT3Td8C3gVzftNuvwf5NB2wDPtVzKueG3loWYdJVzdkZhF0Iug5/ThFpG; Received: from mail by f18.mail.ru with local id 1PwAVN-0003Hr-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:44:01 +0300 Received: from [71.246.154.157] by e.mail.ru with HTTP; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:44:01 +0300 From: =?utf-8?Q?=D0=90=D0=B2=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BD_=D0=9A=D0=B8=D0=BC?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: [71.246.154.157] Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:44:01 +0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok X-MR-Warn: 1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:15:03 +0000 Subject: grep: write error: Broken pipe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?utf-8?Q?=D0=90=D0=B2=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BD_=D0=9A=D0=B8=D0=BC?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 09:44:04 -0000 Hi, all. I'm new to FreeBSD and have a newbie question (or maybe a couple). I was running FreeBSD 8.2-RC3 and recently `freebsd-update'd to 8.2-RELEASE. Now when I build or upgrade ports I get lots of these "grep: write error: Broken pipe" messages during builds. This is more of a nuisance than anything else, but last night when trying to build the GIMP from Ports, the build failed while trying to build the prerequisite OpenEXR 1.6.1_3 (output appended below). I can't figure out why the build fails for OpenEXR; as far as I can tell all the dependencies (in particular IlmBase in /usr/local/lib) are in place. I know the two are probably not related, but can anyone speculate as to the cause of these "grep: write error: Broken pipe" messages and where I might try looking to fix it? I'm hoping the answer will indirectly lead to some clues that will help me debug my failed OpenEXR build. (I'm asking here because I didn't want to bug the maintainer with what is probably a stupid newbie question.) My other question is, those of you who answer questions and debug problems on this list, what do you all get out of it? I feel kind of selfish asking for what is basically free technical support; how best can I repay you all? All the best, Austin **** OUTPUT OF make install FOR OpenEXR-1.6.1_3 root@freebsd:/usr/ports/graphics/OpenEXR# make install ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found ===> License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE ===> Extracting for OpenEXR-1.6.1_3 => SHA256 Checksum OK for openexr-1.6.1.tar.gz. ===> Patching for OpenEXR-1.6.1_3 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for OpenEXR-1.6.1_3 ===> OpenEXR-1.6.1_3 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> OpenEXR-1.6.1_3 depends on package: libtool>=2.4 - found ===> OpenEXR-1.6.1_3 depends on executable: pkg-config - found ===> OpenEXR-1.6.1_3 depends on shared library: Half.6grep: write error: Broken pipe - found ===> Configuring for OpenEXR-1.6.1_3 checking build system type... i386-portbld-freebsd8.2 checking host system type... i386-portbld-freebsd8.2 checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... no checking for mawk... no checking for nawk... nawk checking whether gmake sets $(MAKE)... yes checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no checking for C++ compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C++ compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes checking whether c++ accepts -g... yes checking for style of include used by gmake... GNU checking dependency style of c++... gcc3 checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel checking for gcc... cc checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether cc accepts -g... yes checking for cc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking dependency style of cc... gcc3 checking whether ln -s works... yes checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /usr/bin/sed checking for egrep... grep -E checking for ld used by cc... /usr/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B checking how to recognise dependent libraries... pass_all checking how to run the C preprocessor... cpp checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for sys/types.h... yes checking for sys/stat.h... yes checking for stdlib.h... yes checking for string.h... yes checking for memory.h... yes checking for strings.h... yes checking for inttypes.h... yes checking for stdint.h... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking dlfcn.h usability... yes checking dlfcn.h presence... yes checking for dlfcn.h... yes checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... c++ -E checking for g77... no checking for f77... no checking for xlf... no checking for frt... no checking for pgf77... no checking for fort77... no checking for fl32... no checking for af77... no checking for f90... no checking for xlf90... no checking for pgf90... no checking for epcf90... no checking for f95... no checking for fort... no checking for xlf95... no checking for ifc... no checking for efc... no checking for pgf95... no checking for lf95... no checking for gfortran... gfortran checking whether we are using the GNU Fortran 77 compiler... yes checking whether gfortran accepts -g... yes checking the maximum length of command line arguments... (cached) 262144 checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from cc object... ok checking for objdir... .libs checking for ar... ar checking for ranlib... ranlib checking for strip... strip checking if cc static flag works... yes checking if cc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... no checking for cc option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if cc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if cc supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the cc linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd8.2 ld.so checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... yes configure: creating libtool appending configuration tag "CXX" to libtool checking for ld used by c++... /usr/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking whether the c++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking for c++ option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if c++ PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if c++ supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the c++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd8.2 ld.so checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... yes checking for gfortran option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if gfortran PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if gfortran supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the gfortran linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd8.2 ld.so checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes checking whether gmake sets $(MAKE)... (cached) yes test_prefix = NONE checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config using pkg-config to set ILMBASE_CXXFLAGS and ILMBASE_LDFLAGS: ILMBASE_CXXFLAGS = -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/OpenEXR ILMBASE_LDFLAGS = -L/usr/local/lib ILMBASE_LIBS = -pthread -L/usr/local/lib -lImath -lHalf -lIex -lIlmThread test: x/usr/local/bin/pkg-config: unexpected operator checking for IlmBase... no *** Could not run the IlmBase test program, checking why... *** The IlmBase test program could be compiled, but could not be dynamically. *** or statically linked. *** *** Make sure the LDFLAGS points to the location of the IlmBase library. *** (e.g. -L/usr/local/lib). *** If the run-time linker is not finding IlmBase, you'll need to set your *** LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable, or edit /etc/ld.so.conf to point *** to the installed location Also, make sure you have run ldconfig if that *** is required on your system. *** *** Flags used by the test: *** cflags: -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/OpenEXR *** ldflags: -lpthread -L/usr/local/lib *** *** You can also run configure with --disable-ilmbasetest to skip this test. configure: error: Could not compile IlmBase test program. ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Please report the problem to nork@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the "/usr/ports/graphics/OpenEXR/work/openexr-1.6.1/config.log" including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/OpenEXR. root@freebsd:/usr/ports/graphics/OpenEXR# -- Все возможности @Mail.Ru в твоем мобильном. Просто зайди с телефона на m.mail.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 12:49:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8EF1065672 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gw0-f44.google.com (mail-gw0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF138FC1D for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwaa18 with SMTP id a18so3234474gwa.17 for ; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 04:49:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.172.2 with SMTP id u2mr3195362ybe.74.1299415761255; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 04:49:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-216-068.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.216.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q18sm942234ybk.11.2011.03.06.04.49.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 04:49:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CB8C6E54833 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 07:49:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 07:49:17 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110306074917.466cd414@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <201103052052.00749.lumiwa@gmail.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: python27 update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:49:22 -0000 On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 19:53:22 -0800 Nerius Landys articulated: > > Sadly, this is one of those times when portupgrade seems > > to handle things better, but you'll probably have to wait another > > day to see if things worked out better this time. > > For me, using portupgrade on 3 different systems (7.4 and 8.1) to > upgrade Python 2.6 to 2.7 worked like a charm. Just my two cents. +1 -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 14:09:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BD1106564A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:09:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0A38FC0C for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:09:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2011 09:09:05 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.2.3-GA) with ESMTP id ATO89597; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 09:09:02 -0500 Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=209.6.91.204; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.6.91.204; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=209.6.91.204; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="postmaster@jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2011 09:09:03 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19827.38269.868687.742332@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 09:09:01 -0500 To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20110306074917.466cd414@scorpio> References: <201103052052.00749.lumiwa@gmail.com> <20110306074917.466cd414@scorpio> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Re: python27 update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 14:09:04 -0000 Jerry writes: > > > Sadly, this is one of those times when portupgrade seems > > > to handle things better, but you'll probably have to wait another > > > day to see if things worked out better this time. > > > > For me, using portupgrade on 3 different systems (7.4 and 8.1) to > > upgrade Python 2.6 to 2.7 worked like a charm. Just my two cents. > > +1 Here also. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 14:15:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBB7106564A; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesbrandongooch@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F6A8FC19; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yie12 with SMTP id 12so1503746yie.13 for ; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 06:15:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from :subject:date:to; bh=yE7/hXCQiG9jW6WSy/T0HBjvFuKjquqArEApUN9cJIM=; b=DBc0q3JpUtHks+IXmvg7eO0G6FP2AUbbjHJj888u8Tj4qePuQAL8FWu/ltOg9X35SV AcpxAf97YEp3D4xDkErvhu8NUHBCgv1V/luD4dyEuN0Fl5rV0Ac1FM1Z96fBCXzIaHZV Zt40/JgUbGHN+Ycdc650zhzfBNNaBt5r138Yo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=q4zcr+ZHdzOUPc/QwIZsH2zfkqq4gyvJXo7WhggDVe67rNn6reQobNG70+fL5qqqS4 RRSgVF1b9f1vZGuR9UOLm2TrEQcfuHqpzStuBkMULK0blkF7x4Ik62F0ROQ9iDZkkrcn M+nLOu7EOdbGCNIqnY1Z/q9JleETbQNbo2IqY= Received: by 10.91.144.8 with SMTP id w8mr3655518agn.43.1299420955840; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 06:15:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([24.112.22.136]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c39sm2307672anc.27.2011.03.06.06.15.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 06:15:54 -0800 (PST) References: <4D6BF823.2090602@gmail.com> <4D73426F.4080100@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D73426F.4080100@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <53171037-6524-4B42-909A-E78FBCEC30F9@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) From: Brandon Gooch Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 08:15:48 -0600 To: David Demelier Cc: "mav@freebsd.org" , "Paul B. Mahol" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: optical driver with ahci bios mode but ata(4) driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 14:15:57 -0000 On Mar 6, 2011, at 2:14 AM, David Demelier wrote:= > On 05/03/2011 21:22, Paul B. Mahol wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:31 PM, David Demelier >> wrote: >>> Hello, >>>=20 >>> My bios can be set to use IDE emulation or ahci mode, I prefere the ahci= >>> mode because it's a bit faster. >>>=20 >>> It's probably stupid to stay with ata(4) driver with the ahci mode, isn'= t >>> it? But with ahci(4) driver you can't burn with burncd(8) and cdrecord j= ust >>> fail and break an blank cd for nothing. >>>=20 >>> I guess this is the correct behavior when trying to use burncd(8) / >>> cdcontrol(1) : >>>=20 >>> markand@Melon ~ $ burncd msinfo >>> burncd: ioctl(CDIOREADTOCHEADER): Input/output error >>>=20 >>> markand@Melon ~ $ cdcontrol info >>> cdcontrol: getting toc header: Input/output error >>> cdcontrol: Input/output error >>>=20 >>> But why the optical drive is only affected? If I use ata(4) driver even w= ith >>> ahci mode set in the bios, why the hard drive works pretty well? >>=20 >> Are you using atapicam module? >=20 > No I was only using ata, atapicd. I would like to use ahci + cdrecord but i= t fails to burn too :( >=20 > --=20 > David Demelier Have you tried burning using the -tao option? Also, mav@ has a set of patches to get cd burning working with CAM, just sea= rch the mailing list archives -- I seem to recall that you may have previous= ly been a part of a discussion concerning this situation? -Brandon= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 14:32:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59099106564A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:32:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213028FC12 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:32:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so3787260iyj.13 for ; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 06:32:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=PEiV+WFN+mryQRRWPevtumS0QwHgyLPXzcn6U4zxsbE=; b=d2LxSJRZnBDRkqbUyltG3VGjgHbNxM6CFG/2G415K4iXoLMGC1uoCe95A4HiR9xiqt PteSfHgD078hcJ2kcoeLNXRe7bV9z1j6q56jWcz2J5MqGfncJAVNkUQth/F2h0fZ5piv yS20tStOOZq7dUwtQRrTiYSXkWHHwFmE9UPE8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=JH7247d/zUFDdU8Z7QwQmjG26kl9pxQY5KH/a+wergN67H2w7xdhbzkf5Ok5838zHj kjKnTt3N2JItdfjLRFCafnZAhmcBiT3gGusQTqC7iDv58ApUTikjCFCFhZu02vjd6vpI gfaMFvPitIo9pbPLMBlKOYIPFwq8m/HO4BFgY= Received: by 10.42.152.71 with SMTP id h7mr3335584icw.440.1299421968685; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 06:32:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.183.131 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 06:32:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D735C11.1010804@gmail.com> References: <4D727076.1070908@gmail.com> <4D735C11.1010804@gmail.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 09:32:28 -0500 Message-ID: To: Michael Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to keep track of data usage (mobile broadband) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 14:32:50 -0000 > Looks like it's exactly what I was looking for, thanks! > Do you have the rc.d script maybe? It should be part of the port. I don't have it on this computer. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 15:05:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952941065686 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:05:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlmichael70@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BDC8FC13 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15so1760914wwe.1 for ; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:05:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OGcWGM07grlaB/U1PnCiNbsBMOmFXVQeia53+LR/Jnc=; b=gJJE9zDV8W39hMtJ8ZywggU+G5M+bgFt1rZjNmJ0iG3wN3JK8f7y6npJFKCqc/DjmG RxyW3OeCTgvnvPIoX7tRpdTdJNGBoi3vSWlbSr9I+XtRamrB8hxSO/nOhC6plFMbul4X LYRa1uEFCG0eRGCojGkzk3PYCz3Xsyt7bRGLE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oiMy2XZ5I59mN49YCjoN04Kvz/HNNlVnk8P+lzqcQob/BtcqM+BflEvepgR/R62L6s oxD60mXbI4ww+TyorReYZqSy3yNXgkwZxkLHxCawiSaClnOJ0kzYBFhNfFgpjLMQCL1D cqlhyFuyc16kxvfYoBYYkF3mNhEOIKQlpUv9Y= Received: by 10.227.160.69 with SMTP id m5mr2495090wbx.97.1299423954083; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:05:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from prime.nonspace ([82.132.211.81]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bd8sm1318401wbb.19.2011.03.06.07.05.52 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:05:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D73A2D7.8080005@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 15:05:59 +0000 From: Michael User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101215 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eitan Adler References: <4D727076.1070908@gmail.com> <4D735C11.1010804@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to keep track of data usage (mobile broadband) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 15:05:55 -0000 On 06/03/2011 14:32, Eitan Adler wrote: >> Looks like it's exactly what I was looking for, thanks! >> Do you have the rc.d script maybe? > > It should be part of the port. I don't have it on this computer. > I'm afraid it's not. My ports tree is updated and a standard ports installation of net/vnstat doesn't supply rc.d script. At least I can't find it under any of them: /usr/local/etc/rc.d /usr/local/share/doc/vnstat /usr/local/share/examples/vnstat Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 15:11:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78AC106566C for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:11:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlmichael70@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB158FC16 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:11:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb32 with SMTP id 32so4053193wyb.13 for ; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:11:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6mtIuAbEhwY0OLPYvr/Lsx7o8fhxRzOCP1Xd7nVmFhY=; b=IlclKUUV+wOb6PUEACvJuwjs8MQv+bOlM5TElO1qEA8VD2hwk4uCsL+Y0ArqVqNhXN I399ilvXYHOLKDDk7d2OkYDPTl5PzJxmjQASQY6jKe2F4eYp49JvoxbFSfWMh4xMaps+ ZHV+I77dFHKt3fIZ31TV3GB40TmhskBRPU8vY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ckCE7/2i83XNEAJSjScN0V0n/IOcKrfh52mN5j/BmRzCTqUc2+mXBru/HAqibbCSVz qoiU6FaVI9ajuCVF73rf9w28mnJXCAtknZOrZij+tdV2DeS/FZF+3SDvDX6lVB4pMvbK QYJTVrg0hVmJLCtJmeabqTLLWGxEi9YRslwwA= Received: by 10.227.196.208 with SMTP id eh16mr2477437wbb.224.1299424266252; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:11:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from prime.nonspace ([82.132.211.81]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y29sm1323816wbd.10.2011.03.06.07.11.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:11:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D73A406.8060508@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 15:11:02 +0000 From: Michael User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101215 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: configuring mobile broadband at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 15:11:07 -0000 Hi, I'm using cdce interface to get online. But before I can get IP address on my ue0 interface with dhclient, I need to power up and configure the GSM modem. At the moment I'm doing it by hand with cu(1) utility. How can I get it automated so that ue0 is running right after system startup? I know I can make a custom shell script but is there a proper way of doing it? Does the system provides some configuration mechanism at system startup time? Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 15:14:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E616106564A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlmichael70@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144CB8FC0C for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:14:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwb31 with SMTP id 31so4525544wwb.31 for ; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:14:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Vmgal3SZ4C722XnP/hwtjOA8pGceYxbtCNJDbaxJ0nI=; b=jqUPwCF/H8uDMNM1LjMgiVnV6M4VzIb6rh5/V66n8xMtHsQ2S6zxLMKR1b+IMLpaeH uvE6aam6ll46AuQc6TW4Ei47yub93T/pvsNNuNFFVelOz04j7T/Ua5Up+UutSiC6SIZq TlTRMiNxSAls7qULHxABQw1YcM4km4gwIrF60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iq7Wwwlmh6OBBIJEXLUIDHRiB7LBYTIQoe6CdWxYg9dPTgXDBeczq8z826UbPhlv2p DxMbECKjOtsu9r6SFkOFdnhreJH2FhzJvhM1T/ny1wg9itIAVKQVajXyyNKoTsAh90qz BQPMYMdSOpVUs4AObJnl95JfYiOnuUjrtAedY= Received: by 10.227.7.18 with SMTP id b18mr2537194wbb.103.1299424486018; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:14:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from prime.nonspace ([82.132.211.81]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w25sm1321956wbd.23.2011.03.06.07.14.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 07:14:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D73A4EB.3020108@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 15:14:51 +0000 From: Michael User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101215 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: how to determine if GSM modem is roaming X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 15:14:47 -0000 Hi, Is there a way to check if GSM modem is currently operating in roaming mode or not? Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 16:19:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C07011065670 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:19:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829C68FC0A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:19:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so3841231iyj.13 for ; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 08:19:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=iMEveXXIrgH9I4lbn3WecRz26dQSne4TQ46L2a5EQzA=; b=Mtay6jdTvwMXyRbq/Jx+QgoPDo9AnHuLS+gs/ns/twmryCJiPxfzJaMt36thO9BGsP r1DP1kens77wQ8X6H4G6fc1d6tJ9j+sKNpegyrwEI2Q5el1Suetq5t29ePpMhU+G1uAi mHakXEgjCFcYslwhbn//kEkPhn3vNWiwMM4Qw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=bz77jivmhohOzL30YfeSl6zLHo4X9KciMajHw85AgzNyLs9JjeLoa06JjASdCXPEpM crnIKDLo8wTt01TwdvVzCRKM/yYkRBBVJO5PSfWr8rE4OJKv48VKohxGqPtQansqnHGd vAzULXjAtwIbmFybkXh54XbhbBNseF3/FdRSM= Received: by 10.231.215.42 with SMTP id hc42mr2254853ibb.1.1299428357138; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 08:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gy41sm1857394ibb.17.2011.03.06.08.19.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 08:19:16 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:19:04 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) References: <201103052052.00749.lumiwa@gmail.com> <20110306074917.466cd414@scorpio> <19827.38269.868687.742332@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <19827.38269.868687.742332@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201103061019.04555.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: Re: python27 update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 16:19:18 -0000 On Sunday March 6 2011 08:09:01 Robert Huff wrote: > Jerry writes: > > > > Sadly, this is one of those times when portupgrade seems > > > > to handle things better, but you'll probably have to wait another > > > > day to see if things worked out better this time. > > > > > > For me, using portupgrade on 3 different systems (7.4 and 8.1) to > > > upgrade Python 2.6 to 2.7 worked like a charm. Just my two cents. > > > > +1 > > Here also. > > > Robert Huff > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I am using portmaster all the time more or less without problems. I like to switch to portupgrade but I don't know if is good to mix them. I think I will wait to FreeBSD 9 and than install evrything from scratch. Thank you to everyone for the help... Mitja -------- http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 17:21:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21754106566C for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 17:21:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net) Received: from mail4.dslextreme.com (mail4.dslextreme.com [66.51.199.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E31738FC0C for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 17:20:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27010 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2011 17:20:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sdw.swallace.org) (208.127.207.26) by mail4.dslextreme.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP (17f9d556-4816-11e0-bd09-000c29c6406d); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 09:20:55 -0800 From: steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 09:20:53 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201103052300.12346.steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net> <201103052351.05662.steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <201103052351.05662.steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_1J8cNuGuyzSEopM" Message-Id: <201103060920.53610.steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net> X-MagicMail-UUID: 17f9d556-4816-11e0-bd09-000c29c6406d X-MagicMail-MUA: 17f9d556-4816-11e0-bd09-000c29c6406d X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Firefox printing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 17:21:00 -0000 --Boundary-00=_1J8cNuGuyzSEopM Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit With FreeBSD 8.2R and Firefox 3.6.13: When printing postscript to file (or PDF, and actual printers too), the font and spacing of text is incorrect and does not look good. When I do the same on Firefox 3.6.13 on Ubuntu 10.04, I get clear output. have included test-bad.ps to illustrate the difference, n the archive test-ps.tgz. I also converted test-bad.ps to jpg for quick view. Test-good.ps is about 150k larger, and too big to include on this list. I have included the jpg version test-good.jpg. (The example is just a printout of blank CUPS jobs, in which CUPS has nothing to do with problem) I took a look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490475 which may or may not be related to this problem, but I still don't understand why the same firefox build delivers different results (unless ubuntu added patches?). Thanks for any leads, Steven --Boundary-00=_1J8cNuGuyzSEopM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 18:01:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207271065673 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:01:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29618FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yie12 with SMTP id 12so1553096yie.13 for ; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 10:01:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1EI0hDRSkmtUVa6gyVJByZYxf2x5KT60Oy4hhuTBdic=; b=vZv9XVvbBg0X80nGabsyY2PFGzXmcMyHAkomnn/blI6VyLCHnJaGid5OaKvwBNNuRr 6bHIXptzYz6y0pQwkELVj5jtkeaSN+3QbbX8J4MyVJ7w5F2BPQJYEOb1eHKmXLlH6yP2 vyYufHqaAdpg38qByhdFZD6JbBi7GUj/ZBNyQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=wbYYcTtlUPHuWQJxzSNHTbbwRM6mCjs+wCfF6+9MlyEEGHll4i88QqmpfOHgMYcfpB xS9gQRKT8OXSNggA4pIYJHBSKFECzra4m2BbJT5caU+i8BkVTmJCJLiF8V+y5uIB2qH9 BK5GF9oYWdrSuqPO8vWPi+8EZ4CUYSh8y31rM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.108.10 with SMTP id p10mr1655012yhg.52.1299434508045; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 10:01:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.108.44 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:01:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:01:47 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: ajtiM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: python27 update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:01:49 -0000 >I am using portmaster all the time more or less without problems. >I like to switch to portupgrade but I don't know if is good to mix them. I >think I will wait to FreeBSD 9 and than install evrything from scratch. You would have encountered the problem that you mentioned regardless of whether you used portupgrade or portmaster, and the results would have been the same. It was a flaw in the ports tree itself, not in the updating tool. I think that portmaster is probably a better choice for most people, since it implements most if not all of the features that portupgrade does, the maintainer is more active, and it doesn't need ruby and bdb to work, or require extra databases. Mixing portupgrade and portmaster shouldn't cause any problems, as long as you take care to keep your portupgrade port and package databases up-to-date, but it probably isn't necessary to use both. Whatever you decide, I urge you to take a few minutes to read the manpage of your updating tool. It can save you a lot of time and frustration later. Also, if you want to avoid problems, after major changes to the ports tree, it is safer to wait for a few days before updating your own ports. Usually there are a few problems that are uncovered and fixed after major changes are made, and it takes a few days or a week for this to happen. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 18:08:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26211106566B for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:08:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0828A8FC0A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.100]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 493DC16B4A9 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:08:42 -0600 (CST) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:08:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:08:16 -0600 (CST) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.6dollardialup.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Bug report marked [regression] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:08:44 -0000 If my bug report is marked [regression] what does that mean? Am I a troglodyte or a Luddite or something? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 18:29:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA0D1065690 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:29:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) Received: from oak.localnet (unknown [IPv6:2001:1938:266:0:6ef0:49ff:fe05:658b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FFA8FC1F for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from oak.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oak.localnet (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0E3CDCD for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 21:06:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from carlj@localhost) by oak.localnet (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p2556TYU006248; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 21:06:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carlj@peak.org) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.localnet: carlj set sender to carlj@peak.org using -f From: Carl Johnson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <5F4DD89C-5F3B-46B8-BA91-A25B8BF11EEB@lafn.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 21:06:29 -0800 In-Reply-To: <5F4DD89C-5F3B-46B8-BA91-A25B8BF11EEB@lafn.org> (Doug Hardie's message of "Fri, 4 Mar 2011 13:24:32 -0800") Message-ID: <87tyfi88bu.fsf@oak.localnet> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: Purchased Binaries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:29:25 -0000 Doug Hardie writes: > I have a client who has purchased some software. I don't know > anything much about it yet other than it claims to run on Debian and > CentOS. I suspect its binaries. I will have access to things like > the developer, name etc. on Monday. However, thats when he needs to > know if I can make it run on FreeBSD. I am not convinced I want to run > production software on the Linux compatibility suite. No good reason > other than it sounds like its adding a lot more opportunities for > breakage. This has to be an always up application. I have virtually > no knowledge of CentOS other than it was installed on one server when > I got it. Any chance those binaries might work on FreeBSD? I am > planning on starting with FreeBSD 8.2 since its just out and working > fine on one of my servers, but could use an earlier version if > required to make this stuff run. One addition to the points that others have made is that the Linux compatibility layer appears to be 32 bits only, even for 64 bit versions of FreeBSD. At least that is true for Release 8.1. If the software is 64 bit linux, then it won't work. -- Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 18:49:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B889F1065680; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FF28FC25; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm19 with SMTP id 19so3970238fxm.13 for ; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 10:49:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nV9n8UXdCdMiszbBwD6wlfEREZZbF/JMQOggCu0K8Bw=; b=kf/WrwH8jX1Uk/7eJqCq9NUQ0YzVPuhF4jDCceqUIkzAkxjLedwB2rPSuFbOlOO4o5 fHZX7g4CN1npXB+LCFWJB+bh2Aj+0OCpKRYob4OhGL+fN7tDdvLOVIuoVzOY0iJwGF99 1D+4CKQHXlgDZ3oACB61QGBCj2NLyNx0dQyiU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Hm0CKi/Mgr43bO4Cm31H1OSdkpCzop07UpvtmWlRIQZaL+fcNDjUfjqGcoF8WO0lL/ h+I/B7DXdQ4ZXTVhjbkDOIS7XKKD74sklmT1FSHWOUyEuKeSvReXyzJwMBrOYCjcbxuG UE3HbG0Lugrlpv6re8HGmUeJhLmvPSVb/q8CE= Received: by 10.223.63.80 with SMTP id a16mr3301892fai.146.1299437370184; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 10:49:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from Groseille.malikania.fr (65.21.102-84.rev.gaoland.net [84.102.21.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y11sm612388fam.15.2011.03.06.10.49.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 10:49:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D73D737.9020101@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 19:49:27 +0100 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110306 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brandon Gooch References: <4D6BF823.2090602@gmail.com> <4D73426F.4080100@gmail.com> <53171037-6524-4B42-909A-E78FBCEC30F9@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <53171037-6524-4B42-909A-E78FBCEC30F9@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "mav@freebsd.org" , "Paul B. Mahol" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: optical driver with ahci bios mode but ata(4) driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:49:31 -0000 On 06/03/2011 15:15, Brandon Gooch wrote: > On Mar 6, 2011, at 2:14 AM, David Demelier wrote: > >> On 05/03/2011 21:22, Paul B. Mahol wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:31 PM, David Demelier >>> wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> My bios can be set to use IDE emulation or ahci mode, I prefere the ahci >>>> mode because it's a bit faster. >>>> >>>> It's probably stupid to stay with ata(4) driver with the ahci mode, isn't >>>> it? But with ahci(4) driver you can't burn with burncd(8) and cdrecord just >>>> fail and break an blank cd for nothing. >>>> >>>> I guess this is the correct behavior when trying to use burncd(8) / >>>> cdcontrol(1) : >>>> >>>> markand@Melon ~ $ burncd msinfo >>>> burncd: ioctl(CDIOREADTOCHEADER): Input/output error >>>> >>>> markand@Melon ~ $ cdcontrol info >>>> cdcontrol: getting toc header: Input/output error >>>> cdcontrol: Input/output error >>>> >>>> But why the optical drive is only affected? If I use ata(4) driver even with >>>> ahci mode set in the bios, why the hard drive works pretty well? >>> >>> Are you using atapicam module? >> >> No I was only using ata, atapicd. I would like to use ahci + cdrecord but it fails to burn too :( >> >> -- >> David Demelier > > Have you tried burning using the -tao option? > It fails too. > Also, mav@ has a set of patches to get cd burning working with CAM, just search the mailing list archives -- I seem to recall that you may have previously been a part of a discussion concerning this situation? > > -Brandon Yes because I don't know which driver to use, I don't want to apply patches by hand, I'll wait until it's fixed correctly to use ahci / cdrecord. -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 18:56:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C422106564A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:56:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB928FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:56:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.100]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B1D4116B516 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:56:34 -0600 (CST) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:56:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:56:09 -0600 (CST) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.6dollardialup.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: HAL must die! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:56:36 -0000 Using the -C switch with portupgrade, I am managing to turn WITH_HAL off in ports that I install or upgrade. Is there a way to make this a global default? Is there a (convenient) way to list ports that might pull in HAL without having a configuration switch? -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 18:58:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDF8106566C for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:58:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A478FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:58:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p26Iwvwl098004; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:58:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p26Iwvql098001; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:58:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:58:57 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Lars Eighner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 11:58:57 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bug report marked [regression] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:58:58 -0000 On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Lars Eighner wrote: > If my bug report is marked [regression] what does that mean? > > Am I a troglodyte or a Luddite or something? "Regression" is something that used to work but doesn't any more. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 19:03:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241131065674 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 19:03:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5F88FC1A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 19:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so3924855iyj.13 for ; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 11:03:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dZySveKbDpwEGy1l6GXd1tDN26w4xOMDKBoILF/6aJ8=; b=F1/ZEtly+PLEI4khk9+QIl7skQxn6BvN1uuLdtO5XLU9nO6GIarJVOvxt8V+ePc5VS MoKD9A0SpOkP9cFtohLs6m8lBX0Dl4Jeqx3SjqjGb1c6in7Eagut3EDct/VSnXYvDwwE CVkFZE9mmJP+8aST7doaIIHHKUYxsszCXubtM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nAS/JftTZvJChrAdXceWyoHDdt+luqYZHQdhCxAOcHEdXDcjXQGslGxtI70wiOUdfG 9oe/jOrAu9tgefqbpYNM4QzrCQCKVEJKfA0DuWAXDrtWg0diXbJIcIFdDhzHlkyEIwOq wIeF9qt4oQkjiI79x95I1nwZXEwhA260eXiRg= Received: by 10.231.204.16 with SMTP id fk16mr2336975ibb.49.1299438195065; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 11:03:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.183.131 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:02:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Eitan Adler Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:02:55 -0500 Message-ID: To: Lars Eighner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HAL must die! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 19:03:16 -0000 On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Lars Eighner w= rote: > Using the -C switch with portupgrade, I am managing to turn WITH_HAL off = in > ports that I install or upgrade. =C2=A0Is there a way to make this a glob= al > default? > You can put WITHOUT_HAL=3Dyes in /etc/make.conf --=20 Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 19:10:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBD9106564A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 19:10:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB078FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 19:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p26JA9vU098060; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:10:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p26JA8go098057; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:10:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:10:08 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Lars Eighner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:10:09 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HAL must die! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 19:10:10 -0000 On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Lars Eighner wrote: > Using the -C switch with portupgrade, I am managing to turn WITH_HAL off in > ports that I install or upgrade. Is there a way to make this a global > default? > > Is there a (convenient) way to list ports that might pull in HAL without > having a configuration switch? Grepping for "hal.1:" in the Makefiles finds some. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 19:14:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE940106566B for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 19:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85FF8FC1A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 19:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2011 14:14:24 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.2.3-GA) with ESMTP id ATP08832; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:14:23 -0500 Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=209.6.91.204; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.6.91.204; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=209.6.91.204; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="postmaster@jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2011 14:14:15 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19827.56563.39467.230647@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:13:55 -0500 To: steven@mailer3.nospam.homeip.net Followups-To: ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201103060920.53610.steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net> References: <201103052300.12346.steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net> <201103052351.05662.steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net> <201103060920.53610.steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Firefox printing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 19:14:25 -0000 (Followups redirected.) steven@mailer3.nospam.homeip.net writes: > When printing postscript to file (or PDF, and actual printers > too), the font and spacing of text is incorrect and does not look > good. When I do the same on Firefox 3.6.13 on Ubuntu 10.04, I > get clear output. I send the following to gecko@ a day or two ago: I have a LaserJet 6mp, connected to: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #0: Sat Oct 23 08:15:53 EDT 2010 amd64 running: cups-base-1.4.6_2 cups-client-1.4.6 cups-image-1.4.6 cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_6 Using this, I am able to print correctly from: the command line LibreOffice Acrobat Reader Opera I am not able to print correctly from: Firefox 3.6.14 SeaMonkey 2.0.11 In both cases the output is squished both horozontally and vertically so that it takes up ~40% on the desired space. Checkng the mailing list archives back into November shows nothing that matches this. Does this match your symptoms? Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 19:21:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F352B1065670 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 19:21:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3FE8FC16 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 19:21:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FvLu1g00516AWCUABvM71B; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 19:21:07 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FvM31g00L1f6R9u8SvM5y5; Sun, 06 Mar 2011 19:21:07 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 11:21:03 -0800 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:21:03 -0800 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110306192103.GC10769@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Mailer: Mutt 1.4.2.3i X-Composer: Vim 7.3 Subject: Re: Bug report marked [regression] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 19:21:08 -0000 On Sun 06 Mar 2011 at 10:58:57 PST Warren Block wrote: >On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Lars Eighner wrote: > >>If my bug report is marked [regression] what does that mean? >> >>Am I a troglodyte or a Luddite or something? > >"Regression" is something that used to work but doesn't any more. Like me. I'm retired now, so the description fits. ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 19:53:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1011065673 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 19:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net) Received: from mail4.dslextreme.com (mail4.dslextreme.com [66.51.199.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 557F98FC0A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 19:53:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25583 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2011 19:53:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sdw.swallace.org) (208.127.207.26) by mail4.dslextreme.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP (61a25aba-482b-11e0-ab07-000c29c6406d); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 11:53:18 -0800 From: steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net To: Robert Huff Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:53:15 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201103052300.12346.steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net> <201103060920.53610.steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net> <19827.56563.39467.230647@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <19827.56563.39467.230647@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_rY+cNtakqQ6EjBb" Message-Id: <201103061153.15607.steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net> X-MagicMail-UUID: 61a25aba-482b-11e0-ab07-000c29c6406d X-MagicMail-MUA: 61a25aba-482b-11e0-ab07-000c29c6406d X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox printing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 19:53:24 -0000 --Boundary-00=_rY+cNtakqQ6EjBb Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sunday 06 March 2011 11:13:55 you wrote: > (Followups redirected.) > > steven@mailer3.nospam.homeip.net writes: > > When printing postscript to file (or PDF, and actual printers > > too), the font and spacing of text is incorrect and does not look > > good. When I do the same on Firefox 3.6.13 on Ubuntu 10.04, I > > get clear output. > > I send the following to gecko@ a day or two ago: > > I have a LaserJet 6mp, connected to: > > FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #0: Sat Oct 23 08:15:53 EDT 2010 amd64 > > running: > > cups-base-1.4.6_2 > cups-client-1.4.6 > cups-image-1.4.6 > cups-pstoraster-8.15.4_6 > > Using this, I am able to print correctly from: > > the command line > LibreOffice > Acrobat Reader > Opera > > I am not able to print correctly from: > > Firefox 3.6.14 > SeaMonkey 2.0.11 > > In both cases the output is squished both horozontally and > vertically so that it takes up ~40% on the desired space. > Checkng the mailing list archives back into November shows > nothing that matches this. > > > Does this match your symptoms? > > Respectfully, > > > Robert Huff I installed seamonkey 2.0.11 and I observe the same squishy output. I can print from other applications without any problems either. Print to postscript or PDF and then view it with ghostscript or PDF viewer. Therefore this has nothing to do with CUPS or the actual printing to one's printer. It has to do with the generation of the postscript file, perhaps by cairo. I have included the good postscript output from the linux system's firefox as reference. Please see previous message for the bad postscript output. Steven --Boundary-00=_rY+cNtakqQ6EjBb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 20:05:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A05106564A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 20:05:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68608FC0A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 20:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p26K5ABv098281; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:05:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p26K59mt098278; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:05:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:05:09 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <19827.56563.39467.230647@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Message-ID: References: <201103052300.12346.steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net> <201103052351.05662.steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net> <201103060920.53610.steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net> <19827.56563.39467.230647@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 06 Mar 2011 13:05:10 -0700 (MST) Cc: steven@mailer3.nospam.homeip.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox printing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 20:05:12 -0000 On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Robert Huff wrote: > In both cases the output is squished both horozontally and > vertically so that it takes up ~40% on the desired space. > Checkng the mailing list archives back into November shows > nothing that matches this. firefox-3.6.15,1 prints fine here, but that's with lpr/lpd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 23:14:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2853E106566B for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 23:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C9D8FC08 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 23:14:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p26NEDkB083986 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:14:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p26NED8e083985; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA15108; Sun, 6 Mar 11 15:04:33 PST Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 15:04:42 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: avstin@mail.ru Message-Id: <4d74130a.ofoXf1ivJSMAipTA%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: grep: write error: Broken pipe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 23:14:15 -0000 ???????????? ?????? wrote: > ... how best can I repay you all? IMO, by "paying it forward": as you become more familiar with/ knowledgeable of FreeBSD, continue to read freebsd-questions@ and assist when able. Everyone here was new to Unix and/or to FreeBSD at one time. Some of us still are :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 23:14:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6316106566C for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 23:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E5A8FC0A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 23:14:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p26NEEfG083991 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:14:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p26NEES0083990; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:14:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA15122; Sun, 6 Mar 11 15:04:58 PST Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 15:05:08 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: steven@mailer3.nospam.homeip.net Message-Id: <4d741324.KAhcvV0fHE0Ta8/T%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <201103052300.12346.steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net> <201103052351.05662.steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net> <201103060920.53610.steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <201103060920.53610.steven@bsd-q1.nospam.homeip.net> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox printing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 23:14:16 -0000 steven@mailer3.nospam.homeip.net wrote: > With FreeBSD 8.2R and Firefox 3.6.13: > > When printing postscript to file (or PDF, and actual printers too), > the font and spacing of text is incorrect and does not look good. > When I do the same on Firefox 3.6.13 on Ubuntu 10.04, I get clear > output. ... > have included test-bad.ps to illustrate the difference, The mailing list strips attachments. Based only on the description, I suspect Firefox is using different fonts on the two systems. That's about as far as I can go with my limited knowledge of Firefox text rendering, but others may have suggestions re how to go about fixing this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 23:32:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232801065672 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 23:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail_of_sergey@mail.ru) Received: from fallback5.mail.ru (fallback5.mail.ru [94.100.176.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C983D8FC0A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 23:32:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from f270.mail.ru (f270.mail.ru [217.69.128.231]) by fallback5.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id 941DB2E78D0F for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 02:16:36 +0300 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ru; s=mail; h=Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Reply-To:Date:Mime-Version:Subject:To:From; bh=UXxFc6Dm/kRwS+5iH6epAAUWWspX6LdLqQ8f9NKg9RE=; b=DgRa2RnFhm2leChTsiRnhbQNk42k+bKsluI503hbtqwNX5GqSSh8GE0mX1V4CusBWcyUAk0bQfBExxF7FsXM2vPhdcQge0wm6fJ6QH3O5S9sFk9lXyHbxeB3UeCvBNoj; Received: from mail by f270.mail.ru with local id 1PwNBi-0000Cf-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 02:16:34 +0300 Received: from [94.28.230.8] by win.mail.ru with HTTP; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 02:16:34 +0300 From: Sergey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: [94.28.230.8] Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 02:16:34 +0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok Subject: What error "RTC BIOS diagnostic error 8" means? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sergey List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 23:32:23 -0000 Hello All! I have motherboard INTEL S3200SHX and two SATA drive. ad0: 152627MB at ata0-master UDMA100 SATA 1.5Gb/s ad2: 1430799MB at ata1-master UDMA100 SATA 3Gb/s I see "RTC BIOS diagnostic error 8" error at /var/run/dmesg.boot. What this error means? Bye. Serg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 6 23:45:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374B6106564A for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 23:45:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15E08FC16 for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 23:45:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p26NjKlH078240; Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:45:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:45:20 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: =?KOI8-R?B?4dfT1MnOIOvJzQ==?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: grep: write error: Broken pipe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 23:45:22 -0000 On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, ?????? ??? wrote: > My other question is, those of you who answer questions and debug > problems on this list, what do you all get out of it? I feel kind of > selfish asking for what is basically free technical support; how best > can I repay you all? When you become knowledgeable, start answering questions yourself. I rarely have anything to contribute, but when I do I'll answer a question. As to why, there's an element of long-term self-interest: the more successes there are, the larger the user base becomes, the more experts develop. As a FreeBSD user, it's in my interest to have a large installed base and a large and robust user community since this will (I think and hope) ultimately mean more awareness from hardware makers and thus a continued supply of hardware I can use. Well, applications software too. And if you become an expert, maybe you can answer *my* question next time :^) -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 04:35:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97A41065680 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 04:35:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53C38FC1A for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 04:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32353 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2011 04:04:18 -0000 Received: from s8.stradamotorsports.com (HELO w16.stradamotorsports.com) (jcw@[64.81.163.126]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Mar 2011 04:04:18 -0000 Message-ID: <4D745941.2020206@speakeasy.net> Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 20:04:17 -0800 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110120 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Redd Vinylene References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions Subject: Re: Cannot build jdk16 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 04:35:53 -0000 On 03/04/11 03:23, Redd Vinylene wrote: > Hello! > > /usr/ports/java/jdk16 instructs me to manually fetch > tzupdater-1_3_34-2010o.zip and put it in /usr/ports/distfiles - this file > however is no longer available and has been replaced by > tzupdater-1_3_35-2011b. So what's the best way of installing jdk16 despite > of this? Rename tzupdater-1_3_35-2011b to tzupdater-1_3_34-2010o.zip and > "make -DNO_CHECKSUM"? I recently ran into this. You can just tweak the download URL manually and still get the old version of tzupdater. It's not really necessary to cross post. Give -questions a chance to help you first. Later, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 12:01:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8DB1065673 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 12:01:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF368FC12 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 12:01:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so4485296iyj.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 04:01:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=NvXF+nZxKgOTI79LJUgVpdb17+mdR3YKjfsZwcMMSTE=; b=vlPyeod4Ph7B4h9QgHXV5SxlURkjXRZI/VqT+Eoao6d0P51iqH1U8ZUgq30Ok3QUmw IbREZjcSnpiad7yNxPoALeyk31m18ykn4uqEfagTqHAJBRjgIV3816DAKRFvGYgez9wj iPYS5W/CZIme+GfZARE6N6IZ/JROXvIWspR64= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=G21dWXUPYUvXRGd49LQQ00XAidoEsvler+jNxuzB5rVRGu/zwR18tDcuhDRctFIUIu LKOiXZvrSWbNqxv1CLulU1LekJ8EBITfA01G/GNmb9w9O4f0IzvyQUqpB5MuhOgzxzHS deq2mpQcv+e2whJqELFdfbLzgyWbdPHbmKX/A= Received: by 10.43.65.146 with SMTP id xm18mr4615865icb.356.1299499315427; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 04:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g4sm2451994ick.11.2011.03.07.04.01.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Mar 2011 04:01:54 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: bf1783@gmail.com Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 06:01:46 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201103070601.46465.lumiwa@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: python27 update-py-psyco X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 12:01:56 -0000 On Sunday March 6 2011 12:01:47 b. f. wrote: > >I am using portmaster all the time more or less without problems. > >I like to switch to portupgrade but I don't know if is good to mix them. I > >think I will wait to FreeBSD 9 and than install evrything from scratch. > > You would have encountered the problem that you mentioned regardless > of whether you used portupgrade or portmaster, and the results would > have been the same. It was a flaw in the ports tree itself, not in > the updating tool. > > I think that portmaster is probably a better choice for most people, > since it implements most if not all of the features that portupgrade > does, the maintainer is more active, and it doesn't need ruby and bdb > to work, or require extra databases. Mixing portupgrade and > portmaster shouldn't cause any problems, as long as you take care to > keep your portupgrade port and package databases up-to-date, but it > probably isn't necessary to use both. > > Whatever you decide, I urge you to take a few minutes to read the > manpage of your updating tool. It can save you a lot of time and > frustration later. Also, if you want to avoid problems, after major > changes to the ports tree, it is safer to wait for a few days before > updating your own ports. Usually there are a few problems that are > uncovered and fixed after major changes are made, and it takes a few > days or a week for this to happen. > > b. Thank you. I am reading /usr/ports/UPDATING special like now but there are problems. And I have a problem again with /usr/ports/devel/py-psyco I get: c/mergepoints.c:242: error 'JUMP_IF_FALSE' undeclared here *** Error code 1 I trid make clean and make again but it is the same. Thanks. Mitja -------- http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 14:33:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736E210656D0 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 14:33:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FFA8FC13 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 14:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PwbUm-0001AU-Pq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:33:12 +0100 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:33:12 +0100 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:33:12 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:32:59 +0100 Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101102 Thunderbird/3.1.6 In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Subject: Re: HAL must die! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:33:14 -0000 On 06/03/2011 19:56, Lars Eighner wrote: > Using the -C switch with portupgrade, I am managing to turn WITH_HAL off in > ports that I install or upgrade. Is there a way to make this a global > default? > > Is there a (convenient) way to list ports that might pull in HAL without > having a configuration switch? Um, why exactly are so many people against HAL? It's the only cross-platform thing available for non-Linux systems which handles device enumeration, hotplugs, etc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 14:37:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF4C1065672 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 14:37:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6018FC19 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 14:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywf9 with SMTP id 9so1858211ywf.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 06:37:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XgS7zumhz5GZO2h4BApF6Jp+RFBeqNeRupfXxJzwM5Y=; b=E3qrYykvK+ft9lTGc0DaLcx3xw8cmeX5vn5RRMBK+yfENPFtcq+bJgWWc7mh1G4doa hJ7G/aI4usjzIRwjY8Bf/XRE8L5H9uoFypb88xMYtxm4LGj/qM+pN3a1vruCG9I4MOyv ajpKCAhOoGkd1Egmq4RaP12Snqt1G67vizciQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=s5WinokZxCG6/2o1NZl1u154/q7rheR906jy7f52lAz8ww1QRlQYektiVdj1SU7AAe DAUkfqMc4zi/h5qM9TOWmLTbk/uREEkypb1DfLc58X0554oUXRGtb11qoErHVYDxEQLv PKss+jo7FFBnZMQ8kQWTwBATNL6vqgZJ4bTkU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.79.1 with SMTP id h1mr3144723yhe.76.1299508666894; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 06:37:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.108.44 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 06:37:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201103070601.46465.lumiwa@gmail.com> References: <201103070601.46465.lumiwa@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 14:37:46 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: ajtiM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: python27 update-py-psyco X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 14:37:47 -0000 On 3/7/11, ajtiM wrote: > On Sunday March 6 2011 12:01:47 b. f. wrote: > Thank you. I am reading /usr/ports/UPDATING special like now but there are > problems. And I have a problem again with /usr/ports/devel/py-psyco > I get: > c/mergepoints.c:242: error 'JUMP_IF_FALSE' undeclared here > *** Error code 1 > There is not enough context here to learn much, but this is the kind of error that could occur if this port is built with python 2.7.x. It may be that your ports tree is still not up-to-date, because this is one of the few ports that doesn't work with python 2.7.x [The upstream maintainer was working on a new version (see the port website), but hasn't finished it yet], so Martin modified the port: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/devel/py-psyco/Makefile.diff?r1=1.17;r2=1.18 Do you have those changes? Is py-psyco using python 2.5.x or 2.6.x during the build? If not, update your ports tree (and make sure that it really _is_ up-to-date, by looking at the file afterward, because some mirrors have been having problems lately), then (for safety) rebuild whatever version of python (2.5.x or 2.6.x) you are using with py-psyco, and then try again. If it still doesn't work, post your full build log to the freebsd-python mailing list. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 15:12:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E63B106566C; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:12:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09C88FC12; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:12:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1Pwc6X-0004LO-N1>; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:12:13 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1Pwc6X-0007ZA-IJ>; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:12:13 +0100 Message-ID: <4D74F5CD.2050608@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:12:13 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110307 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: Subject: GRASS: 6.4.0: where is the postgresql (pg) driver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:12:15 -0000 Hello. I desperately try to connect to a PostgreSQL DB server using GRASS (6.4.0 as from the recent ports). The documentation of GRASS, even the most recent one, reports using the 'driver=pg' option. Having already set up a database in PostgreSQL (server 9.0.4), the admin user properly specified is capable to connect from console (terminal) or pgadmin3 client. But using GRASS, only 'dbf', 'sqlite' and 'ogr' as drivers are offered. I tried to figure out whether 'ogr' could cover postgresql connects, but there isn't any information about that, not even in GRASS' documentation (I haven't found any yet). I suspect the 'pg'-driver isn't correctly included in GRASS so I'd like to ask someone already has used PostgreSQL as the DB backend for GRASS GIS. Thanks in advance. Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 15:22:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B24106564A for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:22:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793C38FC17 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PwcGB-00080O-7g for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:22:11 +0100 Received: from 93-139-71-246.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([93.139.71.246]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:22:11 +0100 Received: from gour by 93-139-71-246.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:22:11 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gour Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:21:53 +0100 Lines: 51 Message-ID: <20110307162153.0463fa73@atmarama.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/eahaxb3Bm8SvpS=Pd6jiy4e"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 93-139-71-246.adsl.net.t-com.hr X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Face: 3Cy8q3pLN"sFiKpp%e^3=GTSm2xV5z:O1:| :WC~ei/w@ List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:22:21 -0000 --Sig_/eahaxb3Bm8SvpS=Pd6jiy4e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:32:59 +0100 Ivan Voras wrote: > Um, why exactly are so many people against HAL? It's the only=20 > cross-platform thing available for non-Linux systems which handles=20 > device enumeration, hotplugs, etc. I'm not, but I see that many Linux DEs abandon it (e.g latest Xfce), so how we're going to have all the features depending on HAL? Sincerely, Gour --=20 =E2=80=9CIn the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: CDBF17CA --Sig_/eahaxb3Bm8SvpS=Pd6jiy4e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNdPgRAAoJECrfh83NvxfKDxkQALbGj9AgZPm3tJvT7uYOlXd/ G/3zkAcb2ASakJM4qS5qCRVbRlyoCbS+iw5K3PQo5ifQaEXQAT1gutd+YcwI4oBe SKV7DRODr4sSsQ3rAsv8chCVCu2XLWnNwJSlKhNilbDaWEHzKpvS17zS4zV63oii S/kV/voAeVU8aufcWo/Szoi44b+ka68eqFcbMgK+EegF+ckOd+QiirjQD1bKV40x KSdjAuGTo2BIhhE3bWLP0c3lXMwICveqWdtnrGKoPST7HgWGImvL35rKPLY0epAp gXmoiQJ76oy1hcJhBZdEsxTl/KIPXpbQmXsZFU6RVEjSEgwSUo0rygYHaFTM0W56 a7syi1/ct5urkgV/5U2C159ducxtrmh416PFZ6IarTwKoqjf8JeOe9w8dWk9HKi8 55oOicbtA/8/aYC7sDCEVIZZTYLQ2J+waI4piLdZh1kuSkNiX57SPYY3sgN4guNU vS2FeNAaaEq2f8wNQLXZGQLB26EWN9NSXu5n0Mh9pESqvxCepihsQWM6vV6LAHXq p0tqYV9xXH+KwtFMv3DtIjwbWgyugpgjJf52zVbooQZB5j1mHweKsX9wm7M8Z7Oo hvCoWNGor5S9N6JJPnVOX2RMUSc2v8aZs9w8UrojggcS6ra1QXOb45krJvdGrYvG a9FHvUiI46u3Tw/NCcSB =icJL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/eahaxb3Bm8SvpS=Pd6jiy4e-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 15:31:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0463E106564A for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:31:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F0F8FC17 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb32 with SMTP id 32so4917937wyb.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 07:31:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=A5iaII3l2jD/ephmwjZV6p3Gqn+DmyJWOlZHJOx+Acs=; b=LYG4miD/uHGHWizBtN67dwZoIcPLLn9bxUm5zyJFnJBP0anCVl9GCzzHn3+JeHE0GQ uuc+3EFDcgKcgsiFq2CypMSXvdOaSilAcZA0SYtAeWrNBz5xgJ8rkAb1ULZArDSLbynD J0YZIxEJGRmPIcD5F/CWCZUNzWsqtsPJyhjGk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=g4g+VurhD6Bgq/07DR8P877bE/AnIS5+XqorQhZmJEkixG9Ov5sJLk3HkLsDDa4Ehk gfzifGgtDKd67p0YQ14lTz6KuYBpwaKLm2PPOFSE6SLSC+1vHeDZ4W2a+ZFffA9qG6jZ Gtawh1e3266zHQq3auilfENADkYrfO37C31uI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.157.68 with SMTP id a4mr3593872wbx.198.1299511903462; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 07:31:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.30.97 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 07:31:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110307162153.0463fa73@atmarama.net> References: <20110307162153.0463fa73@atmarama.net> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 07:31:43 -0800 Message-ID: From: Nerius Landys To: Gour Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HAL must die! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:31:45 -0000 Sorry I could not help but to realize the title of this forum discussion. "I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that." :-/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 15:48:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC1A106566B for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:48:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5648FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so4673474iwn.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 07:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.150.71 with SMTP id z7mr5199885icv.28.1299512883003; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 07:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from tech304 (supranet-tech.secure-on.net [66.170.8.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g4sm2581081ick.11.2011.03.07.07.48.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Mar 2011 07:48:02 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:48:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Mark Felder" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.01 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: HAL must die! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:48:04 -0000 On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 08:32:59 -0600, Ivan Voras wrote: > Um, why exactly are so many people against HAL? HAL is deprecated now. All projects using HAL are in the process or have already migrated away from it. KDE has pluggable backends, so that's not a big deal, but XFCE doesn't support anything but udisks/udev/upower. The BSD community will have to supply their own patchset to achieve the same functionality. GNOME should be heading in the same direction if it hasn't already. Unfortunately, we're going to be without a cross-platform solution. Hopefully other projects will follow KDE and allow us to easily supply our own backend to powerd and devd. Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 15:52:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7AC106566B; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wenheping@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B88A8FC12; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so4681025iyj.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 07:52:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6CuVchuPZqU+NamZCEbykT+m0k//YswCEvKIYz10crs=; b=XPAwhkBFh8f1laVAr4d/gQJnxGFFkzvARRJeDPiwR6icbxv9k9JjSOQtQ1pIsLfIDF ZwEHHCgB4rzCztEAj08686L3Mohvun5BMp3W2Gm8cRy8WY58dSKvqhjvP1XjBotjfKyk uMGO/e5CEgxEdd1mKo0+7DXRo7cY+Pq9mPyvA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=NC6Kq8DhhKCJ8/j4Jf3Dy6YsCKuYHH8ugjfa/7wFrDnxcVSPKKWIu2V/FH4YiBPr/R As1DxBchhFh4wPT67irXQqSbIAi+iU7UKB5CXn86jujiyETqCshnwQRxg/RfIRIULn9h EwAE6ulNqe86P/FNLFI24OaKUXpjhgA6kU6m0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.5.136 with SMTP id 8mr1697286ibv.115.1299511588046; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 07:26:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.208.16 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 07:26:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D74F5CD.2050608@zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <4D74F5CD.2050608@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:26:28 +0800 Message-ID: From: wen heping To: "O. Hartmann" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GRASS: 6.4.0: where is the postgresql (pg) driver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:53:00 -0000 2011/3/7 O. Hartmann : > Hello. > I desperately try to connect to a PostgreSQL DB server using GRASS (6.4.0 as > from the recent ports). The documentation of GRASS, even the most recent > one, reports using the 'driver=pg' option. Having already set up a database > in PostgreSQL (server 9.0.4), the admin user properly specified is capable > to connect from console (terminal) or pgadmin3 client. But using GRASS, only > 'dbf', 'sqlite' and 'ogr' as drivers are offered. I tried to figure out > whether 'ogr' could cover postgresql connects, but there isn't any > information about that, not even in GRASS' documentation (I haven't found > any yet). > I suspect the 'pg'-driver isn't correctly included in GRASS so I'd like to > ask someone already has used PostgreSQL as the DB backend for GRASS GIS. It is obviously pg-driver was not correctly included in grass ports, there is even no PGSQL macro in plist :) I shall try to fix it tomorrow. wen > > Thanks in advance. > > Oliver > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 16:15:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6D61065674 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:15:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B03B8FC26 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:15:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-64-49.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.64.49]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p27GFIJf056818 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:15:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4D750496.8070703@bah.homeip.net> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:15:18 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101213 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Diskless build problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:15:25 -0000 Hello list Trying to build a server for diskless clients but it fails with this cd /usr/src/etc/sendmail; make distribution install -o root -g wheel -m 644 /usr/src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc freebsd.cf /usr/home/bernt/disk2/diskless/etc/mail install: freebsd.cf: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/etc/sendmail. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/etc. It does not matter if freebsd.cf is in the directory /usr/src/etc/sendmail/ or not, install never finds the file. I'm following the freebsd handbook. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 16:25:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE469106564A for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:25:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA9A48FC13 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:25:53 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES-T; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From:X-RcptTo; l=500; bh=zN6aM+SWV80RslCJcpeWDFMU68Yn4aXScFld3gxRmCo=; b=itXH4S0s2oubE0PxXkizlOEDIaRncItNHRNbNeJJTGsLBAaQBkA6CmCUKZbTIVDDFa1MCPS02hUldPkbYT6LHTK4EngXwuVby8jhECl4TCpA/WNdVGO58Sj+y3sQcKhtAseNwJYN8jIuqe5bM9hHb0lL4tWF9o0yztLUD7RkQsE= Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([76.240.47.196]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 7 Mar 2011 08:08:19 -0800 Message-ID: <4D7502F1.9000007@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 11:08:17 -0500 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Mar 2011 16:08:19.0939 (UTC) FILETIME=[E051A330:01CBDCE1] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: Subject: mysql 559 and fbsd 8.2 'mysql_install_db' error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:25:54 -0000 I have been using mysql since fbsd 7.2 and always just issued the mysql_install_db command on the command line to create it's control databases and it just worked fine. But now with 8.2 I get the following error and have no idea why. I installed using pkg_add mysql55-server command. # /usr/local/bin >mysql_install_db --user=mysql FATAL ERROR: Could not find ./bin/my_print_defaults If you compiled from source, you need to run 'make install' to copy the software into the correct location ready for operation. If you are using a binary release, you must either be at the top level of the extracted archive, or pass the --basedir option pointing to that location. # /usr/local/bin >locate my_print_defaults /usr/local/bin/my_print_defaults From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 16:32:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10D8106564A for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freitas.rodrigo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AAC8FC08 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm19 with SMTP id 19so4775542fxm.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 08:32:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=dtXikEHbGo1ncQ6xDbAfbZUsGlueVTMk+G6aMmyMu9k=; b=ajitFOPs7uIMY/ZV0N9Lg4V5h9QBOBmFx8Z849WzVyfvb1r8cPnFrFoMED9lMwOGgy ZwkdUIytoj7hkrvcc21xtMQ3M+sZ+iNQixAR4pk1ylZ/o1tXuHs40333mr1emB/twUE6 Y34c+cWFec/TA6p9F6gRBdxHnlpcl9BCyAuLU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=C+PjaawuE6XGhLB1U+FFja3kEOn0dQ7Ab2iCZdBHjIZJqRQfA03EE9RP2dPU5jL4fO Hcto8UJqsY9KzxoUzigKjWMDco2tAX9yQ7v/rxZfU6EQuUy7szBEyW1eQpqZAC+HoiYU Clm+IaEbYLrQ66mTAYNQFpzgmuyluTOYlBax4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.6.11 with SMTP id 11mr2371219fax.101.1299513577630; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 07:59:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.87.80 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 07:59:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 12:59:37 -0300 Message-ID: From: Rodrigo Freitas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:32:24 -0000 Dear friends, I've been studying/researching to understand what is the best OS for my production environment. I didn't know FreeBSD until this need, and now I'm fascinated with the stuff I've been reading about it. I have 2 servers with the following SW/HW: Server 1: Postgres 9 HSQLDB (Java) 2 cpu 5620 / 48 GB RAM Server 2: Coldfusion 9 and other java applications 2 cpu 5620 / 24 GB RAM I searched the web about performance and portability for these applications on FreeBSD, but I could not find any clear article about my doubts, that's why I'm asking for your help. Question #1: Is anyone running Coldfusion on FreeBSD? It looks like Adobe only supports Red Had and SuSe. Question #2: Is the JVM implementation for FreeBSD reliable and fast? Most of my software components are made in Java (including HSQDB) Question #3: I read a lot of old posts saying that the overall performance of Postgres under FreeBSD is better than on some Linux distributions. Is this still valid for the current versions? I appreciate your valuable time for reading this and for helping me. Thanks a lot Rodrigo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 16:42:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C461065670; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D60A8FC0C; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1PwdVk-0003rT-N2>; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:42:20 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1PwdVk-0004zQ-Ki>; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:42:20 +0100 Message-ID: <4D750AEC.1020605@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:42:20 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110307 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wen heping References: <4D74F5CD.2050608@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GRASS: 6.4.0: where is the postgresql (pg) driver? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:42:22 -0000 On 03/07/11 16:26, wen heping wrote: > 2011/3/7 O. Hartmann: >> Hello. >> I desperately try to connect to a PostgreSQL DB server using GRASS (6.4.0 as >> from the recent ports). The documentation of GRASS, even the most recent >> one, reports using the 'driver=pg' option. Having already set up a database >> in PostgreSQL (server 9.0.4), the admin user properly specified is capable >> to connect from console (terminal) or pgadmin3 client. But using GRASS, only >> 'dbf', 'sqlite' and 'ogr' as drivers are offered. I tried to figure out >> whether 'ogr' could cover postgresql connects, but there isn't any >> information about that, not even in GRASS' documentation (I haven't found >> any yet). >> I suspect the 'pg'-driver isn't correctly included in GRASS so I'd like to >> ask someone already has used PostgreSQL as the DB backend for GRASS GIS. > > > It is obviously pg-driver was not correctly included in grass ports, > there is even no PGSQL macro in plist :) > > I shall try to fix it tomorrow. > > > wen > > >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Oliver Thank you in advance. Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 16:52:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED381065679 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkearney@nvita.org) Received: from squirrelserver.nvita.org (nvita.org [173.10.132.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD578FC14 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org ([192.168.0.3]) by SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org ([192.168.0.3]) with mapi; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 12:02:58 -0500 From: "Michael J. Kearney" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 12:02:55 -0500 Thread-Topic: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD Thread-Index: Acvc5tz5SqLZQ+3JSdOIExx3YI8ZKwAAqN/2 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:52:48 -0000 Most .config files use the linux subsystem. . And the jre requires the proc= filesystem. .. you dont have to run fbsd atm Rodrigo Freitas wrote: Dear friends, I've been studying/researching to understand what is the best OS for my production environment. I didn't know FreeBSD until this need, and now I'm fascinated with the stuf= f I've been reading about it. I have 2 servers with the following SW/HW: Server 1: Postgres 9 HSQLDB (Java) 2 cpu 5620 / 48 GB RAM Server 2: Coldfusion 9 and other java applications 2 cpu 5620 / 24 GB RAM I searched the web about performance and portability for these applications on FreeBSD, but I could not find any clear article about my doubts, that's why I'm asking for your help. Question #1: Is anyone running Coldfusion on FreeBSD? It looks like Adobe only supports Red Had and SuSe. Question #2: Is the JVM implementation for FreeBSD reliable and fast? Most of my software components are made in Java (including HSQDB) Question #3: I read a lot of old posts saying that the overall performance of Postgres under FreeBSD is better than on some Linux distributions. Is this still valid for the current versions? I appreciate your valuable time for reading this and for helping me. Thanks a lot Rodrigo _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 17:03:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A1A106566B for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:03:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freitas.rodrigo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70368FC17 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm19 with SMTP id 19so4813199fxm.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:03:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2j6SBD/kSIpKsq37245GpjUFfLnnBDLy08ZBQwqATb8=; b=nF1O3MMSrhw83rOUF8KQgj7BGrdibWAGd0tImiMAholNbFQwOOdX/QAIw1YbRhHY97 FdO8d9p7QGqjAZ82UYXi6NMv2FhTAGoKYiMX1p0hhYTic3lec5AmqUXVuWSwsuh/vOi+ HF5NErwHo4UPYM8e7bZb9hC309A+93+Gc0Z4k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Kbqt8Wk4/SYczE6FI4e8AbwV2CDJIS/sBzaFT3DntEAi8N8pr2pLQCr4DwaeRKF1Me iYSWoQ4QaRlnxvGOVbpRwZxHCMfFH75yUniwoBMx/jE2OyinuQfAfNWp7KORWOtC6x16 sZwGRNcBnArITYzsOBdjp1R/dFQA23Ur6Gcr4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.91.72 with SMTP id l8mr2784454fam.139.1299517427566; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:03:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.87.80 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:03:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 14:03:47 -0300 Message-ID: From: Rodrigo Freitas To: "Michael J. Kearney" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:03:49 -0000 Michael Excuse me, I didn't quite get your answer... On Monday, March 7, 2011, Michael J. Kearney wrote: > > Most .config files use the linux subsystem. . And the jre requires the pr= oc filesystem. .. you dont have to run fbsd atm > > Rodrigo Freitas wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > I've been studying/researching to understand what is the best OS for my > production environment. > I didn't know FreeBSD until this need, and now I'm fascinated with the st= uff > I've been reading about it. > I have 2 servers with the following SW/HW: > > Server 1: > Postgres 9 > HSQLDB (Java) > 2 cpu 5620 / 48 GB RAM > > Server 2: > Coldfusion 9 and other java applications > 2 cpu 5620 / 24 GB RAM > > I searched the web about performance and portability for these applicatio= ns > on FreeBSD, but I could not find any clear article about my doubts, that'= s > why I'm asking for your help. > > Question #1: Is anyone running Coldfusion on FreeBSD? It looks like Adobe > only supports Red Had and SuSe. > > Question #2: Is the JVM implementation for FreeBSD reliable and fast? Mos= t > of my software components are made in Java (including HSQDB) > > Question #3: I read a lot of old posts saying that the overall performanc= e > of Postgres under FreeBSD is better than on some Linux distributions. Is > this still valid for the current versions? > > I appreciate your valuable time for reading this and for helping me. > > Thanks a lot > > Rodrigo > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=A0mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=A0mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 17:11:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98AB81065670 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:11:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6115F8FC17 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:11:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 16053 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2011 17:11:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 Mar 2011 17:11:29 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=nqlFY3nGOOivoXMpFjLTdQZI46flFvrLAAHxdCp7Wk4vcJNQLyXJWQ/GRF7lhlcmaStMZNpAdt3hIpY+FKfUjmtOcC7a4TJB4ow6fS2nMIgP8jmC/ubqj1yRoI1wAr1+; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pwdxw-0002Zu-Ij for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 10:11:29 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 07 Mar 2011 10:00:14 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:00:14 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110307170014.GB65289@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110307162153.0463fa73@atmarama.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: HAL must die! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:11:30 -0000 --3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 07:31:43AM -0800, Nerius Landys wrote: > Sorry I could not help but to realize the title of this forum discussion. >=20 > "I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that." :-/ "I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that." (full quote) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7qnd-hdmgfk Did you know you can configure YouTube to use HTML5 instead of Flash now? Adobe is in danger of becoming irrelevant. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk11Dx4ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUzTwCgngEpA/nqbv7EX8qg7eAfsQCB JKcAoLzS9tE4SSXrFwcalI1/nPqGeG6/ =WBrB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 17:17:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0DFC1065670 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:17:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9000B8FC12 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:17:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.87]) by qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GHFe1g0021swQuc58HHZkm; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:17:33 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GHHR1g0131f6R9u3bHHSza; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:17:28 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:17:23 -0800 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:17:23 -0800 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110307171723.GC8428@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110307162153.0463fa73@atmarama.net> <20110307170014.GB65289@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110307170014.GB65289@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Mailer: Mutt 1.4.2.3i X-Composer: Vim 7.3 Subject: Re: HAL must die! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:17:33 -0000 On Mon 07 Mar 2011 at 09:00:14 PST Chad Perrin wrote: > >Did you know you can configure YouTube to use HTML5 instead of Flash >now? Adobe is in danger of becoming irrelevant. Meh. I never watch videos on the website anyway. I download them with cclive, as mp4's. Not sure what any of this has to do with HAL, however. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 17:18:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCF4106567A for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkearney@nvita.org) Received: from squirrelserver.nvita.org (nvita.org [173.10.132.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2F88FC1A for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org ([192.168.0.3]) by SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org ([192.168.0.3]) with mapi; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 12:29:11 -0500 From: "Michael J. Kearney" CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 12:29:10 -0500 Thread-Topic: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD Thread-Index: Acvc6w4GxOl/4mcNTfuLZlflvHs+3gAAh1T6 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:18:59 -0000 The new jre or java executable.. needs the proc filesystem and or the binar= ies may not be what you want. . Ftw Rodrigo Freitas wrote: Michael Excuse me, I didn't quite get your answer... On Monday, March 7, 2011, Michael J. Kearney wrote: > > Most .config files use the linux subsystem. . And the jre requires the pr= oc filesystem. .. you dont have to run fbsd atm > > Rodrigo Freitas wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > I've been studying/researching to understand what is the best OS for my > production environment. > I didn't know FreeBSD until this need, and now I'm fascinated with the st= uff > I've been reading about it. > I have 2 servers with the following SW/HW: > > Server 1: > Postgres 9 > HSQLDB (Java) > 2 cpu 5620 / 48 GB RAM > > Server 2: > Coldfusion 9 and other java applications > 2 cpu 5620 / 24 GB RAM > > I searched the web about performance and portability for these applicatio= ns > on FreeBSD, but I could not find any clear article about my doubts, that'= s > why I'm asking for your help. > > Question #1: Is anyone running Coldfusion on FreeBSD? It looks like Adobe > only supports Red Had and SuSe. > > Question #2: Is the JVM implementation for FreeBSD reliable and fast? Mos= t > of my software components are made in Java (including HSQDB) > > Question #3: I read a lot of old posts saying that the overall performanc= e > of Postgres under FreeBSD is better than on some Linux distributions. Is > this still valid for the current versions? > > I appreciate your valuable time for reading this and for helping me. > > Thanks a lot > > Rodrigo > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 17:23:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CC0106566C for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:23:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 402038FC0A for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:23:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10074 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2011 17:23:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 Mar 2011 17:23:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Rg/5wzXUF1IGYkZkYMpil3aYk/lCJ55yoAXo8WXo+25ejXYNtJCR9Zv372dxUE4oANM8JyiMXaVlhBJxKZY2inUvtat3NXQGvqNGrzASd8GgJpB6duzdEXrpMO1IC91Q; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pwe9l-0004PX-NP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 10:23:42 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 07 Mar 2011 10:12:27 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:12:27 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110307171227.GA65562@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110307162153.0463fa73@atmarama.net> <20110307170014.GB65289@guilt.hydra> <20110307171723.GC8428@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110307171723.GC8428@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: HAL must die! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:23:45 -0000 --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 09:17:23AM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Mon 07 Mar 2011 at 09:00:14 PST Chad Perrin wrote: > > > >Did you know you can configure YouTube to use HTML5 instead of Flash > >now? Adobe is in danger of becoming irrelevant. >=20 > Meh. I never watch videos on the website anyway. =20 >=20 > I download them with cclive, as mp4's. >=20 > Not sure what any of this has to do with HAL, however. The YouTube link was to a clip of HAL telling Dave he couldn't "do that". --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk11EfsACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWGfgCeMFpUbikVHK4bLKL3Z4Ro0I91 kzcAoJOk1vt0QMbxUplsQDg3kmKpDu1y =O225 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 17:26:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B52106564A for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:26:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FB68FC0C for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyb32 with SMTP id 32so5060782wyb.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:26:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=olOWfXXXVl/a9cdB1AjofFVH80h1Wzextf3V1dvzQ98=; b=TPn3m55EjmxkkfeczfUJIG9EJdDPSqpMQzFNZv6BwQAujBVcHXK2/oIXGmTWQbFGGV nTk1cM6W3fQ3ru/anPg30hyYTBpC+CbHz5sFz6rLsUOeT00swVPHkbnGAXnL4qeC1HJ4 pk3mxNd8rlgAVhqIZgHzv23+mGtUzoEC8A/Qk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=XK6XXajvo1pC5lYfuNk5iVeGiihvbVDVM+WgXK9fHxKWuu/L8uFSSyYsnls7aYCO5r T9AmMhoDcCJaxImI5DR4kLZcK5X42w88LDYshOcW2ypV8tSnGXpuoA3E+AeskH0FatlW Fka6gnjGywCb7Xz/RuPCi0gBfTefvQGaVocKM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.57.210 with SMTP id d18mr3727436wbh.82.1299518762752; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:26:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.30.97 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:26:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:26:02 -0800 Message-ID: From: Nerius Landys To: Rodrigo Freitas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:26:04 -0000 > Question #2: Is the JVM implementation for FreeBSD reliable and fast? Most > of my software components are made in Java (including HSQDB) Since I have experience with Java on FreeBSD, I will try to answer this question. Java works very well for me under FreeBSD; I have not had a single problem with Java on FreeBSD. To install java, you can either install a pre-compiled JDK (called diablo-jdk) or compile all the JDK sources from scratch using the ports system. If you compile yourself from ports, you can choose either JDK 1.5 or JDK 1.6 (there may even be newer and older JDK versions that work fine). I'm running JDK 1.5 compiled from source on both my servers, and have had no problems in my Java applications. The dependencies list for 1.6 is a bit more involved, but the compile/install process is so automated that you won't be bothered with the amount of work it takes to install a JDK. So, in a nutshell, Java is very well supported under FreeBSD and you should consider this to be a non-issue. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 17:59:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E7B1065670 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freitas.rodrigo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360F38FC08 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:59:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm19 with SMTP id 19so4879496fxm.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:59:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y+LzWU1lqYBlDBASjWwOyQTGr8Oed3RhjqHSQhcL5+I=; b=pOHFNHAJ9BH3MORLFnSnyyYst632wwROjF6HxKlCSKytYSHbhxoQiF66azCoJarnAT jUvZWBb6WmqblnuvBv2mofKT3Yg4UfmPGgEx9OEtlH45Ru9dSHZhfo+7PTr46j+xBR8w I18bwQtifjdzwd61f7tORyWzCv/dqUKDMielc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Mtbtv80pIyjHidBqg2iFG1xnQGzGLr5WkFZxdx0vvwblvngKWqLSp6KFtPN9hilcre +zGNsqQMv9GTzQxYDFwc7fekJpQItA5ZcexbUFuCZvZ6MKKkw3c0FkBeJcTbTpRrWAfc 5to73dUzL0D48/WO37mWvQMBcosBmk4OzCq9E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.115.10 with SMTP id g10mr480014faq.6.1299520738233; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 09:58:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.87.80 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 09:58:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 14:58:58 -0300 Message-ID: From: Rodrigo Freitas To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:59:08 -0000 Thanks a lot!! Has anyone successfully installed Coldfusion 9? On Monday, March 7, 2011, Nerius Landys wrote: >> Question #2: Is the JVM implementation for FreeBSD reliable and fast? Mo= st >> of my software components are made in Java (including HSQDB) > > Since I have experience with Java on FreeBSD, I will try to answer > this question. > > Java works very well for me under FreeBSD; I have not had a single > problem with Java on FreeBSD. > To install java, you can either install a pre-compiled JDK (called > diablo-jdk) or compile all the JDK sources from scratch using the > ports system. =A0If you compile yourself from ports, you can choose > either JDK 1.5 or JDK 1.6 (there may even be newer and older JDK > versions that work fine). =A0I'm running JDK 1.5 compiled from source on > both my servers, and have had no problems in my Java applications. > The dependencies list for 1.6 is a bit more involved, but the > compile/install process is so automated that you won't be bothered > with the amount of work it takes to install a JDK. > > So, in a nutshell, Java is very well supported under FreeBSD and you > should consider this to be a non-issue. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 18:19:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45310106564A for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 18:19:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D078FC14 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 18:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk7 with SMTP id 7so1959831gxk.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 10:19:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cJAtujNI4Qs+bj83Y39KriWJ5Cs7VNkDRrymCOoq12c=; b=PYc3GHlAkvNKqZfcQo2Fl1b1O6kjWrf7ntxb85c7bF9r6mwHcZRgNxcJZtZYXajrTd PkLtQCi6AIvoEwM5XMvvXWBr4jDE5K1HoqZdBIPFlwoHG8jsIM/hGr47L21yPhNbMpVG trEux4cami2VX4aFJ2XQQz2+Yf2gOBPOyLwUA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=P4GIXSYtBmUVPPWT8uyudSvLALtCH/VKMUtPuWr4X8EThs9H9MSdXIB92fU41oYF5w VIBOqcL4CGA2msCXq5ENzJ9ykwSYSTveQ1oZ8hrh8dxTzWEKxUIzG24wK0MUucyDr0EO Fq4cClMOK6/0/qXq8/lb/eLO5YGtTKts0aARU= Received: by 10.101.184.33 with SMTP id l33mr1523791anp.120.1299521993131; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 10:19:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.104.16 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:19:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: n j Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 19:19:33 +0100 Message-ID: To: Nerius Landys Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Rodrigo Freitas , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 18:19:54 -0000 > Java works very well for me under FreeBSD; I have not had a single > problem with Java on FreeBSD. > To install java, you can either install a pre-compiled JDK (called > diablo-jdk) or compile all the JDK sources from scratch using the > ports system. =A0If you compile yourself from ports, you can choose > either JDK 1.5 or JDK 1.6 (there may even be newer and older JDK > versions that work fine). =A0I'm running JDK 1.5 compiled from source on > both my servers, and have had no problems in my Java applications. > The dependencies list for 1.6 is a bit more involved, but the > compile/install process is so automated that you won't be bothered > with the amount of work it takes to install a JDK. > > So, in a nutshell, Java is very well supported under FreeBSD and you > should consider this to be a non-issue. IMHO, building Java on FreeBSD is a pain. Don't get me wrong, people working on FreeBSD Java project are doing a *great* job, but it was so much easier to just download the packages from FreeBSD Foundation thanks to the deal with Sun. I don't know what's the status of that deal right now, but there are no packages for 8-RELEASE and the packages themselves weren't updated in a long while, so I guess the deal's off. I'm running Java on FreeBSD right now, but I must say I'd probably stick to Linux nowadays if I had any say, at least until there comes a day when I'll be able to "pkg_add -r openjdk7". --=20 Nino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 19:36:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7C81065672 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 19:36:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D66A8FC1E for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 19:36:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so4903069iyj.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 11:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.144.1 with SMTP id z1mr5485347icu.123.1299526563620; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 11:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from tech304 (supranet-tech.secure-on.net [66.170.8.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y8sm2687515ica.14.2011.03.07.11.36.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Mar 2011 11:36:01 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 13:36:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Mark Felder" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.01 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:36:04 -0000 On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 12:19:33 -0600, n j wrote: > IMHO, building Java on FreeBSD is a pain. AFAIK, Sun/Oracle doesn't provide precompiled OpenJDK for anyone, really. Even OSX now has to build their own. If it's precompiled it's probably not OpenJDK. Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 19:37:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85911065670 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 19:37:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FFA8FC13 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 19:37:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy28 with SMTP id 28so1775206ewy.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 11:37:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.50.73 with SMTP id y49mr2759796eeb.22.1299526627041; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 11:37:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.119.1 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 11:37:06 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.222] In-Reply-To: <20110307171227.GA65562@guilt.hydra> References: <20110307162153.0463fa73@atmarama.net> <20110307170014.GB65289@guilt.hydra> <20110307171723.GC8428@comcast.net> <20110307171227.GA65562@guilt.hydra> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 11:37:06 -0800 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: HAL must die! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:37:08 -0000 I think now we know the real reason HAL was deprecated -- too many crusty old jokes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 7 23:34:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF76B106566C for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:34:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwinlculp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA148FC08 for ; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:34:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws16 with SMTP id 16so4936449vws.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:34:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=uSiKL+0RLDTUhu4z7iINHsqb7rmsuWx40WtbaRHezqs=; b=sTexif5uQvvoGzoe0llQAkBAkjomQbxXG384J+Whs47k9sPC0uuOyHpWTbjuUoLFd7 fGoKQq9pgrnjQR5ALbNwTpyRKpqzwgFizrJBzMwE/7XlwMjV/S6ShqHv4Uqn/3jLOxHv Dsu3o0NSgQRBVnPNXHWT+RTV9xOf7dNoOPnoE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=MneEQ2oRPqtccyB1LVesAkuV88eNzGklCZtpnr9M7ohku81Y14c8hrQEu8sdC+WqLv Q3SAt/3icnAnuL9EhyLaVPdN0nLgEyafv/SwOBI6GP+t9G8Kjrk/IxxbCrJynB/xs0zv MelcxFpZK4fFqgTULH+0+cY3Meb0Mp92F9lEU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.88.113 with SMTP id bf17mr6275540vdb.219.1299540880816; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 15:34:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.179.131 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 15:34:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:34:40 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Edwin L. Culp W." To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: recient problem with bind en 7.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.4-PRERELEASE #1180: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 23:34:42 -0000 Out of the clear, I can no longer start named from /etc/rc.d/named start. The only error message that I get is in log/messages Mar 7 17:13:59 unixmania named[99841]: starting BIND 9.4.-ESV-R4 -u bind -4 -t /var/named -u bind Mar 7 17:14:00 unixmania named[99841]: could not configure root hints from 'named.root': file not found Mar 7 17:14:00 unixmania named[99841]: loading configuration: file not found Mar 7 17:14:00 unixmania named[99841]: exiting (due to fatal error) Mar 7 17:14:05 unixmania named[99940]: starting BIND 9.4.-ESV-R4 -u bind -4 -t /var/named -u bind Mar 7 17:14:05 unixmania named[99940]: could not configure root hints from 'named.root': file not found Mar 7 17:14:05 unixmania named[99940]: loading configuration: file not found Mar 7 17:14:05 unixmania named[99940]: exiting (due to fatal error named.root is in /var/named/etc/namedb and contains the same as my bind 9.6 on current. adding an ls to named.root ls -l /var/named/etc/namedb/named.root /etc/namedb/named.root -rw-r--r-- 1 bind wheel 3074 Jun 28 2010 /etc/namedb/named.root -rw-r--r-- 1 bind wheel 3074 Jun 28 2010 /var/named/etc/namedb/named.root I can't find any major differences with this and 9.6 that works fine. when I try to start it notes that it isn't running and isn't abel to start. Thanks for any suggestions. I am running 7.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.4-PRERELEASE #1180: Wed Jan 26 04:33:51 CST 2011 Thanks, ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 00:00:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DCA106566B for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:00:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A273A8FC0C for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 43E21E81A23; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:00:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 16:00:11 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: "Edwin L. Culp W." Message-ID: <20110308000011.GA31989@thought.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: recient problem with bind en 7.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.4-PRERELEASE #1180: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 00:00:12 -0000 On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 05:34:40PM -0600, Edwin L. Culp W. wrote: > Out of the clear, I can no longer start named from /etc/rc.d/named > start. The only error message that I get is in log/messages > > Mar 7 17:13:59 unixmania named[99841]: starting BIND 9.4.-ESV-R4 -u > bind -4 -t /var/named -u bind > Mar 7 17:14:00 unixmania named[99841]: could not configure root hints > from 'named.root': file not found > Mar 7 17:14:00 unixmania named[99841]: loading configuration: file not found > Mar 7 17:14:00 unixmania named[99841]: exiting (due to fatal error) > Mar 7 17:14:05 unixmania named[99940]: starting BIND 9.4.-ESV-R4 -u > bind -4 -t /var/named -u bind > Mar 7 17:14:05 unixmania named[99940]: could not configure root hints > from 'named.root': file not found > Mar 7 17:14:05 unixmania named[99940]: loading configuration: file not found > Mar 7 17:14:05 unixmania named[99940]: exiting (due to fatal error > > named.root is in /var/named/etc/namedb and contains the same as my > bind 9.6 on current. adding an ls to named.root > > ls -l /var/named/etc/namedb/named.root /etc/namedb/named.root > > -rw-r--r-- 1 bind wheel 3074 Jun 28 2010 /etc/namedb/named.root > -rw-r--r-- 1 bind wheel 3074 Jun 28 2010 /var/named/etc/namedb/named.root > > I can't find any major differences with this and 9.6 that works fine. > > when I try to start it notes that it isn't running and isn't abel to start. > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > I am running > > 7.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.4-PRERELEASE #1180: Wed Jan 26 04:33:51 CST 2011 > > Thanks, > > ed Unfortunately, I don't have any answers to this problem. I only know that the same thing happened to me when I tried to upgrade from the older, no-longer-supported bind9-3 [My solution was to reinstall the older bind9 ....] I am running 7.3, altho that shouldn't make any difference... . > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 00:15:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDDA106566C for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4DE8FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so5140807iwn.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:15:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=uv+YGI7HADIeycsBbV+iLvkoCvDss/EfzzW1Q2NY0Bg=; b=KZv5C7Su+yXFY1FbNW+gNVAGB/tsl36g9POUEQX79ohMriNSz/6mR2jvH/q0XqfTzJ uBxzq5clIMhxkIsLj4BBeB179Kl34/ZLpOx/y7M8YgGLWVvxVNGQ1ecZwvqv6qTKimKi qPkQQ1Ap4Ys/+14lCDI9XR55jBy2tdWzypmtY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=ZVpbHlfj4U55LRhsJexSMRfXXj1NWph0luvDmF5I9WFWvxXLxbMeY2S/n7QzEYHLff UjRLiBQOdFz/yCMTndT6U1F+gYNkvCeCo/YrGZmWOfvGWGE6EXpz0DtVNWu6IwQ6wr0O 8ZGypPIE++2OPsK/gdhVBTmJFkIcHvkTuY7Ho= Received: by 10.42.239.3 with SMTP id ku3mr4251321icb.208.1299543339575; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:15:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm97560iba.22.2011.03.07.16.15.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:15:39 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: bf1783@gmail.com Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 18:15:28 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) References: <201103070601.46465.lumiwa@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201103071815.28819.lumiwa@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: python27 update-py-psyco X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 00:15:40 -0000 On Monday March 7 2011 08:37:46 b. f. wrote: > On 3/7/11, ajtiM wrote: > > On Sunday March 6 2011 12:01:47 b. f. wrote: > > > > Thank you. I am reading /usr/ports/UPDATING special like now but there > > are problems. And I have a problem again with /usr/ports/devel/py-psyco > > I get: > > c/mergepoints.c:242: error 'JUMP_IF_FALSE' undeclared here > > *** Error code 1 > > There is not enough context here to learn much, but this is the kind > of error that could occur if this port is built with python 2.7.x. It > may be that your ports tree is still not up-to-date, because this is > one of the few ports that doesn't work with python 2.7.x [The upstream > maintainer was working on a new version (see the port website), but > hasn't finished it yet], so Martin modified the port: > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/devel/py-psyco/Makefile.diff?r1 > =1.17;r2=1.18 > > Do you have those changes? Is py-psyco using python 2.5.x or 2.6.x > during the build? If not, update your ports tree (and make sure that > it really _is_ up-to-date, by looking at the file afterward, because > some mirrors have been having problems lately), then (for safety) > rebuild whatever version of python (2.5.x or 2.6.x) you are using with > py-psyco, and then try again. If it still doesn't work, post your full > build log to the freebsd-python mailing list. > > b. Thank you very much for reply but I see that is not possible to build it (I red about psyco on mailing list). For now everything works but I have more ports to rebuild but psyco is the big problem. Thanks again... Mitja -------- http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 01:13:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83061065676 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 01:13:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6CCC8FC21 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 01:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so2086700yxl.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:13:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VUBy4X3qQiu1WNs7eAWQQlAAa6SuQ2peht4fYKXbf34=; b=M2P9EGZQ/88HECE2hSaV79u3lyq6MUthTFcYzwcUa87yOjEFIUq2qQ8B2VffAuDwH4 SJC6lcyJh5qJGES6KgxJ2BFNMQeCDLXao4JiCh4kr4OvbTv99Tx7VegI4WAbkuhddNMC 0UbBdSmNJklWAS1tg7gyTmcEhpRiBP/M2mUl8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=mZLjL4rjHORcqIv7JNYLA+hxzsN2eU9NHz7/uFvd9/jtodzm5HrbiGKsnxRwLEUUw9 vM0bBRICaP49NR5UUoKphglgJxf1DSwRm9c7LRSUme0R7Apww738k27JHpV8kn4o2q1n c2wEiUWsYT7iHkwDIjUwaVp5sAVOY4aWq+mGM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.191.6 with SMTP id f6mr4149436yhn.63.1299546780361; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:13:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.108.44 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 17:13:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 01:13:00 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: n j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 01:13:02 -0000 ... > I'm running Java on FreeBSD right now, but I must say I'd probably > stick to Linux nowadays if I had any say, at least until there comes a > day when I'll be able to "pkg_add -r openjdk7". ... Why not now? (Or anytime this past year or more?): http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-release/java/openjdk-7.0.86.tbz http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.2-release/java/openjdk-7.0.122.tbz http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8-stable/java/openjdk-7.0.122_1.tbz http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-8.1-release/java/openjdk-7.0.86.tbz http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-8.2-release/java/openjdk-7.0.122.tbz http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-8-stable/java/openjdk-7.0.122_1.tbz etc. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 01:32:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0981065677 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 01:32:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avstin@mail.ru) Received: from f33.mail.ru (f33.mail.ru [217.69.129.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42008FC19 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 01:32:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ru; s=mail; h=Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Reply-To:Date:Mime-Version:Subject:To:From; bh=8qOivTlBr/w2KF50/X/MiTn63so6Q2J5A1T+0oF0+Zs=; b=pewyYDx82ABfP+tUwSFtt5q3DHmoLT/wph///3LrlT3Cy7pvwGaeV9peO6pTHTaUXHlXIdFe/SlU/ggPrgXQM8luYFt7Kky8pHK9CENWII6D86fGmwHZBAo0eE4nm/0n; Received: from mail by f33.mail.ru with local id 1Pwlmx-0002ib-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 04:32:39 +0300 Received: from [71.246.154.157] by e.mail.ru with HTTP; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 04:32:39 +0300 From: =?utf-8?Q?=D0=90=D0=B2=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BD_=D0=9A=D0=B8=D0=BC?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: [71.246.154.157] Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 04:32:39 +0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok Subject: hidden symbol `__dso_handle' in /usr/lib/crtbegin.o is referenced by DSO X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?utf-8?Q?=D0=90=D0=B2=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BD_=D0=9A=D0=B8=D0=BC?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 01:32:41 -0000 Hi again, all, I've lately upgraded from FreeBSD 8.2-RC3 to 8.2-RELEASE via freebsd-update and am now getting the following error when trying to build www/webkit-gtk2 in Ports (this was pulled in by the GIMP meta-port; the tail output of make(1) is appended): hidden symbol `__dso_handle' in /usr/lib/crtbegin.o is referenced by DSO What does this mean, and how might one go about fixing it? (The more generally applicable the answer, the better, as I've encountered this error on several occasions while trying to rebuild other Ports after upgrading FreeBSD.) Finally, after upgrading from 8.2-RC3 to -RELEASE I now get a lot of error messages of the form grep: write error: Broken pipe while building ports, where `grep' is variously `sed,' `sort,' or a number of other variations. What's the cause of this, and where should I start looking to fix it? This started happening after upgrading from 8.2-RC3 to -RELEASE (this also happened to me a while back after upgrading from 8.2-RC1 to -RC2; both times I upgraded according to the instructions in the FreeBSD Handbook). Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks, and sorry for yet another clueless newbie question. All the best, Austin **** TAIL OUTPUT OF make install IN /usr/ports/www/webkit-gtk2 /bin/sh /usr/ports/www/webkit-gtk2/work/gnome-libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=link c++ -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -O2 -L/usr/local/lib -o libWebCoreJS.la DerivedSources/JSCSSCharsetRule.lo DerivedSources/JSCSSFontFaceRule.lo DerivedSources/JSCSSImportRule.lo DerivedSources/JSCSSMediaRule.lo DerivedSources/JSCSSPageRule.lo DerivedSources/JSCSSPrimitiveValue.lo DerivedSources/JSCSSRule.lo DerivedSources/JSCSSRuleList.lo DerivedSources/JSCSSStyleDeclaration.lo DerivedSources/JSCSSStyleRule.lo DerivedSources/JSCSSStyleSheet.lo DerivedSources/JSCSSValue.lo DerivedSources/JSCSSValueList.lo DerivedSources/JSCSSVariablesDeclaration.lo DerivedSources/JSCSSVariablesRule.lo DerivedSources/JSCounter.lo DerivedSources/JSMedia.lo DerivedSources/JSMediaList.lo DerivedSources/JSRGBColor.lo DerivedSources/JSRect.lo DerivedSources/JSStyleSheet.lo DerivedSources/JSStyleSheetList.lo 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JavaScriptCore/API/tests/Programs_minidom-JSNode.o In file included from ./JavaScriptCore/wtf/Assertions.h:45, from JavaScriptCore/API/tests/JSNode.c:34: ./JavaScriptCore/wtf/Platform.h:778:11: warning: missing terminating ' character CC JavaScriptCore/API/tests/Programs_minidom-JSNodeList.o In file included from ./JavaScriptCore/wtf/Assertions.h:45, from JavaScriptCore/API/tests/JSNodeList.c:31: ./JavaScriptCore/wtf/Platform.h:778:11: warning: missing terminating ' character CC JavaScriptCore/API/tests/Programs_minidom-Node.o CC JavaScriptCore/API/tests/Programs_minidom-NodeList.o CC JavaScriptCore/API/tests/Programs_minidom-minidom.o In file included from ./JavaScriptCore/wtf/Assertions.h:45, from JavaScriptCore/API/tests/minidom.c:33: ./JavaScriptCore/wtf/Platform.h:778:11: warning: missing terminating ' character CCLD Programs/minidom CC WebKitTools/GtkLauncher/Programs_GtkLauncher-main.o CCLD Programs/GtkLauncher /usr/bin/ld: Programs/GtkLauncher: hidden symbol `__dso_handle' in /usr/lib/crtbegin.o is referenced by DSO gmake[1]: *** [Programs/GtkLauncher] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/www/webkit-gtk2/work/webkit-1.2.7' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/webkit-gtk2. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/webkit-gtk2. you have mail root@freebsd:/usr/ports/www/webkit-gtk2# uname -a FreeBSD freebsd.local 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Feb 18 02:24:46 UTC 2011 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 root@freebsd:/usr/ports/www/webkit-gtk2# gcc --version gcc (GCC) 4.2.1 20070719 [FreeBSD] Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. root@freebsd:/usr/ports/www/webkit-gtk2# ld --version GNU ld version 2.15 [FreeBSD] 2004-05-23 Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This program is free software; you may redistribute it under the terms of the GNU General Public License. This program has absolutely no warranty. root@freebsd:/usr/ports/www/webkit-gtk2# -- Мой Мир@Mail.Ru в твоем мобильном! Просто зайди с телефона на m.mail.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 01:49:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C161065670 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 01:49:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout022.mac.com (asmtpout022.mac.com [17.148.16.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B088FC1C for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 01:48:59 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp022.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTPSA id <0LHP00F4IUDNV980@asmtp022.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:48:59 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-08_01:2011-03-08, 2011-03-08, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103070160 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:48:59 -0800 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <1E9B3906-C506-429B-8BCC-4503382F60D6@mac.com> References: To: =?utf-8?B?0JDQstGB0YLQuNC9INCa0LjQvA==?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hidden symbol `__dso_handle' in /usr/lib/crtbegin.o is referenced by DSO X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 01:49:00 -0000 On Mar 7, 2011, at 5:32 PM, =D0=90=D0=B2=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BD =D0=9A=D0= =B8=D0=BC wrote: > I've lately upgraded from FreeBSD 8.2-RC3 to 8.2-RELEASE via = freebsd-update and am now getting the following error when trying to = build www/webkit-gtk2 in Ports (this was pulled in by the GIMP = meta-port; the tail output of make(1) is appended): >=20 > hidden symbol `__dso_handle' in /usr/lib/crtbegin.o is referenced by = DSO >=20 > What does this mean, and how might one go about fixing it? A quick search finds a quote attributed to Martin Loewis: >> My guess is that it is the infamous .hidden conflict, where the >> binutils snapshot implements .hidden by putting a STB_LOCAL symbol in >> the dynamic symbol table (namely __dso_handle). The dynamic linker >> fails to find this symbol in the shared library, because it does not >> consider STB_LOCAL symbols. >>=20 >> The work-around is to not define HAVE_GAS_HIDDEN in auto-host.h, and >> recompile the compiler. I'm not sure what the solution is. Perhaps >> somebody should sit down and implement .hidden in the same way as >> local symbols in the symbol versioning feature. Perhaps that someone >> should be me, but I haven't started, yet. Some people have reported this to be fixed by making sure that anything = which is being compiled as a shared object uses the -shared compiler = flag. (And -fPIC and such, also.) > (The more generally applicable the answer, the better, as I've = encountered this error on several occasions while trying to rebuild = other Ports after upgrading FreeBSD.) >=20 > Finally, after upgrading from 8.2-RC3 to -RELEASE I now get a lot of = error messages of the form >=20 > grep: write error: Broken pipe >=20 > while building ports, where `grep' is variously `sed,' `sort,' or a = number of other variations. What's the cause of this, and where should = I start looking to fix it? It's likely not a problem. If you've got a pipeline and a later part of = it completes, then earlier parts of the pipeline will get a SIGPIPE if = they keep writing output. See /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/grep/ChangeLog 1999-02-06 Alain Magloire * tests/*.awk : Linux users are seeing "Broken Pipe" on make = check. The problem is that grep does not drain its stdin, thus the = previous process in the pipeline receives a SIGPIPE. Other shells are = silent about this. There is actually no failure, since the broken pipe = is expected. You can work around it by changing the pipeline, so = that the input is drained, like this: status=3D`echo 'check' | { ${GREP} -E -e pattern >/dev/null = 2>&1; echo $?; cat >/dev/null; }`; if test $status -ne $errnu then ... = fi Excerpt email from Andreas Schwab. Regards, --=20 -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 03:01:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952EF106564A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 03:01:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guillermo.cotone@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464FB8FC0A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 03:01:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxc34 with SMTP id 34so5107121vxc.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:01:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wffTKusnXMOcX+ZMSOCuZuaGcNazfYvFiMXtmLmxTxo=; b=ktWBrGoMJKlT1jDHX1KR/fzn1ldgltuLL+s+z018APUSLpcuu0oPyjmXa6iko0Q5lE /pqYx5ReffEfqxhQGHPgTYyPiFWc5K+ENTL7N6THZHlxi6u04ZDA1uWypXdzGp6LtLWi IeDGU1yZ8e4XpmqnLuiYsCufsBM+GVtiDeO/M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qWNFTCWrP9aibYcgKIEysP8GWuudL/PMEK4wXVof4qlzbTZ9HRcCnk9dWgZCalGj52 KYOMn0To2//ayC+x9mnYSFqHhiAKl5IwLWYGr7oRbTZ/KK0ta+QPa2leAZbLbjMGFzvY oS/CAS5grd16PpxQemhC9qLHfjukl9Wwvnuds= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.0.70 with SMTP id 6mr6445243vdc.258.1299553298084; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:01:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.168.228 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 19:01:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4D547675.60506@ukr.net> <4D54D22F.2060607@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4D5531D3.8040906@ukr.net> <4D5538DF.2050309@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:01:38 -0300 Message-ID: From: Guillermo Cotone To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: how to add a few hundred ip on one interface? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 03:01:39 -0000 2011/2/14 krad > On 11 February 2011 13:25, Guillermo Fernando Cotone > wrote: > > On 02/11/2011 09:55 AM, Vladislav V. Prodan wrote: > >> And this construction work? > >> > >> ipv4_addrs_ed0="192.0.2.129/27 192.0.2.1-2/28 192.0.2.4-5/28" > >> > > It would work only if all the IPs were on the same subnet. If you want > > to use different subnets you need to implement vlans on that interface > > first. > > > > Regards, > > Guillermo > > > > > > there is no reason why a single vlan cant have multiple ip subnets, so > unless freebsd has a specific limitation (which i dont think it does) > I cant see this as being true > Well, I must admit that(as Nathan stated earlier in this chain) it's possible to do it. I just don't see it as a good practice. Isolation, broadcasts, neighbors and routing protocol issues are common problems. FreeBSD may not have any limitation regarding the number of subnets, but most network vendors do have. What's the purpose of having different subnets on the same ethernet segment? I would only consider this solution if the layer-2 device doesn't support vlans. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 03:17:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C74106566B; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 03:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD638FC0A; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 03:17:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pps.filterd (omta002 [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id p27IiWgd014891; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:44:34 -0800 Received: from dm0224.mta.everyone.net (lb009-10-float.sj2.proofpoint.com [172.16.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net with ESMTP id uw4rd03a5-1; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 10:44:34 -0800 X-Eon-Dm: dm0224 Received: by dm0224.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - cde8da43) id dm0224.4d750fd7.e366; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:44:33 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQNtR3BNdSeRXaF87AIAAAAC,5cc316cd0c6c3c855b03d8455f213c4d Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 12:44:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 12:44:05 -0600 (CST) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.basicisp.net To: Ivan Voras In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Sender: X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103070091 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HAL must die! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 03:17:08 -0000 On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Ivan Voras wrote: > On 06/03/2011 19:56, Lars Eighner wrote: >> Using the -C switch with portupgrade, I am managing to turn WITH_HAL off in >> ports that I install or upgrade. Is there a way to make this a global >> default? >> >> Is there a (convenient) way to list ports that might pull in HAL without >> having a configuration switch? > > Um, why exactly are so many people against HAL? It breaks my mouse and keyboard. I assume it would break other stuff if I had esoteric devices. It was born broken, and although there have been about a half-dozen announced fixes, it always reverts to being broken in pretty much the same way. When I eliminate HAL and everything that depends on it, everything works. It is just this simple: with HAL = nothing works without HAL = everything works > It's the only cross-platform thing available for non-Linux systems which > handles device enumeration, hotplugs, etc. > I'm not running a cross-platform. I'm running FreeBSD. There were native FreeBSD solutions to hotplugging the devices I use before HAL. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 03:33:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AFB1065674 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 03:33:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlmichael70@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FB58FC0C for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 03:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so342988wwc.31 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:32:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=13XzNCM7uPGwDU/2iWp2BaR5S++FLfd8bVWRL4SJQhw=; b=ZVopMvEMkBJQhAG6NzMn1OexQwkoRBEqxDWPRl8mWCDib7anTN7D0ZSuDuqzWKYVx7 8GonI6NfJatIl4kAnZ0YEgavjo7NeuE85AZCrSEVCaIgtMYO8+no0LYpD704C+05PDjx aMnIJrKtHQbpU/KNTVmnzzJPd9BM3+SKdhotY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RCxaGMZQM/FMl8Z/zSRyCvIYDWLMibWHpThDyV8pUTnzCTGrlsxdtl84t1VD5rgCI0 h/Gr84Rf4SbH6SI99RJ1MIhpBWrsVawtM3TyXJ5zoTHx3vOXeMcujkrqrd8k0Rv4px9O cp3fcHoypxDagskIEBuZ5Ro15jtbj1KTWtNEA= Received: by 10.227.132.15 with SMTP id z15mr4054237wbs.218.1299555179754; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:32:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from prime.nonspace (nat67.mia.three.co.uk [217.171.129.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y29sm231927wbd.16.2011.03.07.19.32.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:32:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D75A374.4020407@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 03:33:08 +0000 From: Michael User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101215 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: dhclient not working with wpa X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 03:33:01 -0000 Hi. Problem is that my wireless card doesn't see any replies from DHCP server when I use wpa_cupplicant (it works fine without encryption), even tho it is associated with that access point. So it looks like the encryption bit is working but then dhclient fails. If I turn the encryption off then dhclient works. I've tried with isc dhclient both 31 and 41 versions. I've tried with manually setting IP/netmask and route. Nothing helps, my FreeBSD box just can't talk with the router over the wireless with encryption. I know that the router is OK because other clients can get IP address without any problems. I know that wireless card is OK because it works with that access point from other operating systems, it also works with other access points. I guess it may be related to PR number 145269. But it's marked as serious+open for a year now so maybe somebody got a working workaround? Any suggestions please? Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 04:05:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F25A1065673 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 04:05:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109398FC12 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 04:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk27 with SMTP id 27so4116897qyk.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:05:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=t/jJgik4pMXCD2KOy8RPxlnVKZI/GD3ZJCcvI/6siqQ=; b=bk0vmmqBrFbS6gbebVtJ9DgILh4N9pirvIWb45zPjhF+5k+06QOGvP3RUi/I+cezdF QZiSLOYHNAylIioyejeSsbGAuJoAxCE61sD9jNplERwae47ByBoFTjYy78Z2nXFEqqAH 9PfildGGPYxjkI82TPUIQT6OEFh+YSsgqWIb0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=s4v9LfMhHWXiTUApCyOCxWCQKqRt/zQuY4lKyMjpObH3ttnmekK3rNgicq0noQtTLU kHugtTFbqo6aBR3l9YkzNb0KzaAg7h8xW2A2y+/I40qkFzFgxDxjm3Zjv5sGXpHX0xIn splMJ4J6FWOTkVmHb0rMkLlF10H4RaiphYlnU= Received: by 10.229.105.71 with SMTP id s7mr3565165qco.23.1299555421096; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:37:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ivoras@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.78.193 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 19:36:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Ivan Voras Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 04:36:21 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: IBdMJq_Jhi93MU-HMj1waEnTeGM Message-ID: To: Lars Eighner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HAL must die! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 04:05:24 -0000 On 7 March 2011 19:44, Lars Eighner wrote: > On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Ivan Voras wrote: > >> On 06/03/2011 19:56, Lars Eighner wrote: >>> >>> Using the -C switch with portupgrade, I am managing to turn WITH_HAL of= f >>> in >>> ports that I install or upgrade. Is there a way to make this a global >>> default? >>> >>> Is there a (convenient) way to list ports that might pull in HAL withou= t >>> having a configuration switch? >> >> Um, why exactly are so many people against HAL? > > It breaks my mouse and keyboard. =C2=A0I assume it would break other stuf= f if I > had esoteric devices. > with HAL =3D nothing works > without HAL =3D everything works Interesting, I had 0 problems with HAL ever since it was made. >> It's the only cross-platform thing available for non-Linux systems which >> handles device enumeration, hotplugs, etc. >> > > I'm not running a cross-platform. =C2=A0I'm running FreeBSD. =C2=A0There = were native > FreeBSD solutions to hotplugging the devices I use before HAL. Good luck with running your FreeBSD with FreeBSD-only applications :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 05:28:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65ED4106566B for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 05:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (d80.iso100.no [81.175.61.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040778FC0A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 05:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.12.4]) (Authenticated sender: svein-listmail) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id A114522 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 06:28:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D75BE6F.3000100@stillbilde.net> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 06:28:15 +0100 From: "Svein Skogen (Listmail account)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC8F3B06B547BD601BC0B0BF1" Subject: Re: HAL must die! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:28:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC8F3B06B547BD601BC0B0BF1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08.03.2011 04:36, Ivan Voras wrote: > On 7 March 2011 19:44, Lars Eighner wrote:= >> On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Ivan Voras wrote: >> >>> On 06/03/2011 19:56, Lars Eighner wrote: >>>> >>>> Using the -C switch with portupgrade, I am managing to turn WITH_HAL= off >>>> in >>>> ports that I install or upgrade. Is there a way to make this a globa= l >>>> default? >>>> >>>> Is there a (convenient) way to list ports that might pull in HAL wit= hout >>>> having a configuration switch? >>> >>> Um, why exactly are so many people against HAL? >> >> It breaks my mouse and keyboard. I assume it would break other stuff = if I >> had esoteric devices. >=20 >> with HAL =3D nothing works >> without HAL =3D everything works >=20 > Interesting, I had 0 problems with HAL ever since it was made. But he does raise a valid problem (if more than zero users, etc). "We" (I include fellow FreeBSD users, but also OSX and Linux users) do lack a decent cross-platform device manager stack, with uniform device name enumeration. DevFS (and its peers in Linux) does give us a start, but not enough to build a system on. However, I suspect that getting this to be truly cross-platform would take "a known name" in BSD-land, OpenIndiana/Illumos and Cupertino agreeing with RMS that "making this worth would be a nice summer-of-code project". Perhaps "AutoDevFS" mounted on /autodev (names being picked from empty air with only coffee-fumes). Such a framework would allow "drivers" to attach using pipes, and thus allow (for instance) usb-upses to have python (or lua, or >> It's the only cross-platform thing available for non-Linux systems wh= ich >>> handles device enumeration, hotplugs, etc. >>> >> >> I'm not running a cross-platform. I'm running FreeBSD. There were na= tive >> FreeBSD solutions to hotplugging the devices I use before HAL. >=20 > Good luck with running your FreeBSD with FreeBSD-only applications :) I'm less of an OS cleric. I run windows, freebsd, openindiana, irix (my old indy still works), and knowswhat. Not because I like being confused, but because I chose tools for the task at hand, not tasks from what my (least) favourite os can('t) do. I still want something that works, and if it brings a decent standard into the loop, it will make me sleep a little better. Getting something to REPLACE HAL with, something that actually works, would provide me with more rest. //Svein --=20 --------+-------------------+------------------------------- /"\ |Svein Skogen | svein@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg =C3=98stli 9 | PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X |2020 Skedsmokorset | svein@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | svein@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listmail@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +-------------------+------------------------------- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |svein@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle: SS16503-RIPE --------+-------------------+------------------------------- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ------------------------------------------------------------ Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------enigC8F3B06B547BD601BC0B0BF1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk11vnMACgkQODUnwSLUlKSSOwCdGs3H4OBTjfDkPNYqYBq5BJCx hKkAn1BnF+NCcUn3FzKcPeI+0+f7JNOy =qalY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC8F3B06B547BD601BC0B0BF1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 06:40:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA8E106564A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 06:40:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout019.mac.com (asmtpout019.mac.com [17.148.16.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A2F8FC0C for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 06:40:15 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from [17.151.75.219] by asmtp019.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTPSA id <0LHQ00AIX7V2EN70@asmtp019.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 22:40:15 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-08_02:2011-03-08, 2011-03-08, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103070206 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <4D75BE6F.3000100@stillbilde.net> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 22:40:14 -0800 Message-id: <83D913FC-4A8B-489B-9BD1-09C33A05C31D@mac.com> References: <4D75BE6F.3000100@stillbilde.net> To: Svein Skogen (Listmail account) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HAL must die! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 06:40:15 -0000 On Mar 7, 2011, at 9:28 PM, Svein Skogen (Listmail account) wrote: > But he does raise a valid problem (if more than zero users, etc). "We" > (I include fellow FreeBSD users, but also OSX and Linux users) do lack a > decent cross-platform device manager stack, with uniform device name > enumeration. DevFS (and its peers in Linux) does give us a start, but > not enough to build a system on. However, I suspect that getting this to > be truly cross-platform would take "a known name" in BSD-land, > OpenIndiana/Illumos and Cupertino agreeing with RMS that "making this > worth would be a nice summer-of-code project". Oddly enough, Sun, IBM, and Apple agreed on something known as OpenFirmware, and expansion cards were expected to provide basic OS-independant drivers written in Forth on a ROM (PROM/EPROM/EEPROM). It worked pretty well, but consumers complained loudly about spending an extra $20 on a ~$200 AHA-1540 card to get the OF version.... Much of that is still available under a BSD license (something called OpenBoot, IIRC), but most of the industry is staggering towards EFI instead. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 07:36:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2C4106564A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 07:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nino80@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68AEB8FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 07:36:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so2185071yxl.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 23:36:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=0JJwfC3AI+H2us93Mqgyq2jpf190iUdCsoIfevlEYeQ=; b=xX4oqXV8xvc3PZVYxI4iTC2OFgO5wznOc+ttuVkpuRLFEKyHuAmKOiZ1/dtUgnYlJQ IZ25WWNZeY1KYVTn2QAq2Y9UO8v7HBD/s7jyBKrtVGP4TUEqi616y5jGlzTk26tXZvri AEunTH+K2STnptd2eq+A6sjsCb8ED8RrAueog= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=qyMMNvQwgVAaAidftHsgOJ15GU2DodocVWq9kW/lnvCIiUlzVsk2yQw78B9YkTxbyj VsApkdKPkr8zrHF5OOiSq20s72wOEuOKJeZTKh/vf/cMR7Q8TtZ0VusNcI5153sDYUFg nbqFZgK9Xe6jL90JIbWa+IkeT5anrloGvziBg= Received: by 10.101.156.36 with SMTP id i36mr1831249ano.256.1299569780194; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 23:36:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.104.16 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:36:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: n j Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 08:36:00 +0100 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 07:36:21 -0000 On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:13 AM, b. f. wrote: > Why not now? (Or anytime this past year or more?): Hmm, good point :-). I was misled by the ports page (e.g. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=openjdk&stype=all) which used to have a different entry if a port had a package, i.e.: openjdk-7.0.122_1 Java Development Kit 7 Long description : Sources : Changes : Download vs. openoffice.org-2.1.0 Integrated wordprocessor/dbase/spreadsheet/drawing/chart/browser Long description | Package | Sources | Main Web Site In any way, I stand corrected. I should probably start testdriving OpenJDK to see if it can successfully replace diablo-jdk. Regards, -- Nino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 07:59:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6075106566C for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 07:59:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rfarmer@predatorlabs.net) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E348FC13 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 07:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxc34 with SMTP id 34so5258252vxc.13 for ; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 23:59:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=predatorlabs.net; s=google; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=BHWk8r+KkkfJ093woD8LsDiSmIfyCqMfpfPTbfn+ISc=; b=Bu20Lp0vYLos9SKJi7Hri1PJCsdlpCrbTm1K4Zznvn99CLfTi/6eeSQqv+ejqiOQn7 JojJsmS/YYPWw0ML/sgxG7vMU5j0dW55ANCCHTwbxPCy8AlSTJ5qhwhbUtbz4K7BzpGK LnNWT7YmFGeTsAWfaWaK9lmbWQTA+Uft+dT+s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=predatorlabs.net; s=google; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=fnWjYh7um6bx2hSkoDUYFllmr78Co/Cvly5TQJ1Vrow502967IzvXn3zk+Ac1h1hYl MV5AV03U6NfRWRgcrll7H+/5d0KA9ZRwt63hHFtdamFECfEJlqV1+J+RzMVnESJ1jEXe aCFtXT1azJ96mG1+8MC0TUpxZ7p0v/4FS9DXY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.95.139 with SMTP id d11mr965285vcn.261.1299571180583; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 23:59:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.192.140 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:59:40 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.133.125] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:59:40 -0800 Message-ID: From: Rob Farmer To: n j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 07:59:42 -0000 On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:36 PM, n j wrote: > openjdk-7.0.122_1 > Java Development Kit 7 > Long description : Sources : Changes : Download > > vs. > > openoffice.org-2.1.0 > Integrated wordprocessor/dbase/spreadsheet/drawing/chart/browser > Long description | Package | Sources | Main Web Site > > In any way, I stand corrected. I should probably start testdriving > OpenJDK to see if it can successfully replace diablo-jdk. > I would recommend openjdk6 unless you have a specific need for 7. It is getting a lot more attention (for example, the web plugin from IcedTea is available in 6). -- Rob Farmer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 08:30:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172B91065679 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 08:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [75.101.116.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1832C8FC1B for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 08:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (pool-108-23-64-87.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [108.23.64.87]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p288GsGw047758 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:16:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) From: Doug Hardie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 00:16:53 -0800 Message-Id: <65427422-E170-49B9-9441-1CE3843422A6@lafn.org> To: freebsd general questions Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Server not booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 08:30:56 -0000 I have been tasked with bringing up a "new" server. It appears to be = fairly old equipment though. I do know it was previously used. Its a = Arima NM46X with dual AMD Opteron processors. The unit appears to be = working since it has some form of Linux installed on the disks and that = boots and seems to run. However, I have tried booting from CD 8.2 and = 8.0. using Disk 1 and Repair disks (AMD64 and i386). They all die just = after the first stage loader. I get the system version line and then = the spinner stops dead. The CD is an external USB unit and its left = running. The motherboard doesn't recognize a USB stick for booting = unfortunately. The motherboard manual is dated 2006 so I think its just = too old for that. Any ideas on how this can be corrected?= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 08:38:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D651106564A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 08:38:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFBB8FC0A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 08:38:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1PwsR2-0002d4-DZ>; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 09:38:28 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1PwsR2-0007wB-A2>; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 09:38:28 +0100 Message-ID: <4D75EB04.7090704@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 09:38:28 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110307 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: Subject: xpdf can not print via cups if started from firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 08:38:29 -0000 Hello. I've got a weird problem here. Very often I download scientific papers as pdf from protals and they got opened via firefox3 with the configured propper utility, in this case xpdf. In such a case, printing is impossible. I hit the print button, a popup shows up with the configured CUPS printing queue, but hitting OK doesn't have any effect. The funny thing is: when opening the same PDF (it is stored in /tmp/) with xpdf by starting xpdf from a terminal, printing on the same queue works well. I realized that the change of this behaviour occured a long time ago when the cups printing system got an update. I never figured out what's the diffrence between starting xpdf via terminal and starting via firefox. My first guess was that my local ~/.xpdfrc does have effect, as the right configured CUPS printing queue showed up, but even the firefox-started xpdf client shows the right printing queue, so this implies that xpdf also reads my ~/.xpdfrc. I'm not sure what's going wrong. I have no clue what kind of paper information is passed to xpdf by being called via firefox. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 09:10:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB86D106564A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 09:10:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8636F8FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 09:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1Pwsvr-0001gO-LB>; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:10:19 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1Pwsvr-0001kE-J7>; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:10:19 +0100 Message-ID: <4D75F27B.7020709@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:10:19 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110307 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kristofer M White , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <2ypuye465qcuc3wmqpgivlmq.1299574150895@email.android.com> In-Reply-To: <2ypuye465qcuc3wmqpgivlmq.1299574150895@email.android.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: Subject: Re: xpdf can not print via cups if started from firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 09:10:21 -0000 How to 'configure' this? Firefox3 allows only selecting applications via 'Preferences' Menu. Trying to configure xpdf manually via "about"config" results in can-not-find-application-tag, means: tehre is nothing to look at. On 03/08/11 09:49, Kristofer M White wrote: > Does configuring firefox to launch something like "xterm -e xpdf" rather than just "xpdf" dump any errors to the term when trying to print? > > "O. Hartmann" wrote: > >> Hello. >> >> I've got a weird problem here. Very often I download scientific papers >> as pdf from protals and they got opened via firefox3 with the configured >> propper utility, in this case xpdf. In such a case, printing is >> impossible. I hit the print button, a popup shows up with the configured >> CUPS printing queue, but hitting OK doesn't have any effect. The funny >> thing is: when opening the same PDF (it is stored in /tmp/) with xpdf by >> starting xpdf from a terminal, printing on the same queue works well. >> I realized that the change of this behaviour occured a long time ago >> when the cups printing system got an update. I never figured out what's >> the diffrence between starting xpdf via terminal and starting via >> firefox. My first guess was that my local ~/.xpdfrc does have effect, as >> the right configured CUPS printing queue showed up, but even the >> firefox-started xpdf client shows the right printing queue, so this >> implies that xpdf also reads my ~/.xpdfrc. >> I'm not sure what's going wrong. I have no clue what kind of paper >> information is passed to xpdf by being called via firefox. Any help >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Oliver >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 10:39:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3E31065672 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC24B8FC0C for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:39:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p28Ad5SF018281; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:39:05 GMT Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p28Ad4em018268; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:39:05 GMT Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A8F0233C1F; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:39:04 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:39:04 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: "O. Hartmann" Message-ID: <20110308103904.GA36709@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <4D75EB04.7090704@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FCuugMFkClbJLl1L" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D75EB04.7090704@zedat.fu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xpdf can not print via cups if started from firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:39:08 -0000 --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 09:38:28AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > > Hello. >=20 > I've got a weird problem here. Very often I download scientific papers=20 > as pdf from protals and they got opened via firefox3 with the configured= =20 > propper utility, in this case xpdf. In such a case, printing is=20 > impossible. I hit the print button, a popup shows up with the configured= =20 > CUPS printing queue, but hitting OK doesn't have any effect. The funny=20 > thing is: when opening the same PDF (it is stored in /tmp/) with xpdf by= =20 > starting xpdf from a terminal, printing on the same queue works well. > I realized that the change of this behaviour occured a long time ago=20 > when the cups printing system got an update. I never figured out what's= =20 > the diffrence between starting xpdf via terminal and starting via=20 > firefox. My first guess was that my local ~/.xpdfrc does have effect, as= =20 > the right configured CUPS printing queue showed up, but even the=20 > firefox-started xpdf client shows the right printing queue, so this=20 > implies that xpdf also reads my ~/.xpdfrc. > I'm not sure what's going wrong. I have no clue what kind of paper=20 > information is passed to xpdf by being called via firefox. Any help=20 > appreciated. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Oliver Oliver, I haven't got a fix for the above but have you tried using this add on for firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/pdf-download/ Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk12B0cACgkQHduKvUAgeK4EoACfTkrmyJdUIbxvNk91P3eOMjqT p/QAn2dbK9IF36nGwFmkNAfj43/4hyXb =c/vN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 10:57:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B021065670 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B73E8FC1A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:56:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (unknown [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B41141C0841 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:40:58 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D7607B9.9060806@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:40:57 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Buildworld fail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:57:00 -0000 Hi: I'm trying to upgrade to 8.2, just updated source, cleaned up any leftovers from previous build, but make buildworld fails. I have, alpha# uname -a FreeBSD alpha 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #0: Sat Oct 2 20:34:13 CEST 2010 root@alpha:/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/sys/GENERIC i386 alpha# echo $MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX /usr/local/obj alpha# make buildworld -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> World build started on Tue Mar 8 11:30:53 CET 2011 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree -------------------------------------------------------------- rm -rf /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp mkdir -p /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/lib mkdir -p /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/usr mkdir -p /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr mtree -deU -f /usr/local/src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist -p /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr >/dev/null mtree -deU -f /usr/local/src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist -p /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/usr >/dev/null mtree -deU -f /usr/local/src/etc/mtree/BSD.include.dist -p /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/usr/include >/dev/null ln -sf /usr/local/src/sys /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/local/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp INSTALL="sh /usr/local/src/tools/install.sh" PATH=/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin WORLDTMP=/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp VERSION="FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE i386 801500" MAKEFLAGS="-m /usr/local/src/tools/build/mk -m /usr/local/src/share/mk" make -f Makefile.inc1 DESTDIR= BOOTSTRAPPING=801500 SSP_CFLAGS= -DWITHOUT_HTML -DWITHOUT_INFO -DNO_LINT -DWITHOUT_MAN -DNO_PIC -DWITHOUT_PROFILE -DNO_SHARED -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -DNO_WARNS -DNO_CTF legacy ===> tools/build (obj,includes,depend,all,install) /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/usr/local/src/tools/build created for /usr/local/src/tools/build cd /usr/local/src/tools/build; make buildincludes; make installincludes rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include /usr/local/src/tools/build/dummy.c :0: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault: 11 Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See for instructions. mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/local/src/tools/build. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/local/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/local/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/local/src. OK, so it quite clearly states, sumbit bug report, but .. Any clue? Thanks, Erik -- Erik Nrgaard Ph: +34.666334818 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 11:05:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6727D1065673 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1E38FC1B for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:05:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1PwujQ-0005tA-RH>; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:05:36 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1PwujQ-0001o6-Op>; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:05:36 +0100 Message-ID: <4D760D81.6010705@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:05:37 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110307 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leslie Jensen , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <4D75EB04.7090704@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4D760860.4050303@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <4D760860.4050303@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: Subject: Re: xpdf can not print via cups if started from firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:05:39 -0000 On 03/08/11 11:43, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > > On 2011-03-08 09:38, O. Hartmann wrote: >> Hello. >> >> I've got a weird problem here. Very often I download scientific papers >> as pdf from protals and they got opened via firefox3 with the configured >> propper utility, in this case xpdf. In such a case, printing is >> impossible. I hit the print button, a popup shows up with the configured >> CUPS printing queue, but hitting OK doesn't have any effect. The funny >> thing is: when opening the same PDF (it is stored in /tmp/) with xpdf by >> starting xpdf from a terminal, printing on the same queue works well. >> I realized that the change of this behaviour occured a long time ago >> when the cups printing system got an update. I never figured out what's >> the diffrence between starting xpdf via terminal and starting via >> firefox. My first guess was that my local ~/.xpdfrc does have effect, as >> the right configured CUPS printing queue showed up, but even the >> firefox-started xpdf client shows the right printing queue, so this >> implies that xpdf also reads my ~/.xpdfrc. >> I'm not sure what's going wrong. I have no clue what kind of paper >> information is passed to xpdf by being called via firefox. Any help >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Oliver >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Have you made the printer as system default in CUPS? Then you should be > able to "print with command" lp from xpdf. > > /Leslie > > Yes I have. But this doesn't work anyway. With a terminal started xpdf either each queue existent in CUPS works with an opened PDF, even the standard 'lp' queue. But the PDF never reaches the printer when started via firefox. When xpdf is started from inside firefox, the .xpdfrc seems to be read since changes to the default printer queue in .xpdfrc takes immediately effect, but hitting printing/OK never produces a result. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 11:21:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B051065673 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AC08FC0C for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so918714wwc.31 for ; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 03:21:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.177.13 with SMTP id bg13mr4455158wbb.92.1299583280211; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 03:21:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w25sm483827wbd.17.2011.03.08.03.21.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Mar 2011 03:21:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D76112D.9030907@my.gd> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:21:17 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D7607B9.9060806@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <4D7607B9.9060806@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Buildworld fail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:21:22 -0000 On 3/8/11 11:40 AM, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Hi: > > I'm trying to upgrade to 8.2, just updated source, cleaned up any > leftovers from previous build, but make buildworld fails. I have, > > alpha# uname -a > FreeBSD alpha 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #0: Sat Oct 2 20:34:13 CEST > 2010 root@alpha:/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > alpha# echo $MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX > /usr/local/obj > alpha# make buildworld > -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> World build started on Tue Mar 8 11:30:53 CET 2011 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree > -------------------------------------------------------------- > rm -rf /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp > mkdir -p /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/lib > mkdir -p /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/usr > mkdir -p /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr > mtree -deU -f /usr/local/src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist -p > /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr >/dev/null > mtree -deU -f /usr/local/src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist -p > /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/usr >/dev/null > mtree -deU -f /usr/local/src/etc/mtree/BSD.include.dist -p > /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/usr/include >/dev/null > ln -sf /usr/local/src/sys /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp > > -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims > -------------------------------------------------------------- > cd /usr/local/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp > INSTALL="sh /usr/local/src/tools/install.sh" > PATH=/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin > WORLDTMP=/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp VERSION="FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE > i386 801500" MAKEFLAGS="-m /usr/local/src/tools/build/mk -m > /usr/local/src/share/mk" make -f Makefile.inc1 DESTDIR= > BOOTSTRAPPING=801500 SSP_CFLAGS= -DWITHOUT_HTML -DWITHOUT_INFO > -DNO_LINT -DWITHOUT_MAN -DNO_PIC -DWITHOUT_PROFILE -DNO_SHARED > -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -DNO_WARNS -DNO_CTF legacy > ===> tools/build (obj,includes,depend,all,install) > /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/usr/local/src/tools/build created for > /usr/local/src/tools/build > cd /usr/local/src/tools/build; make buildincludes; make installincludes > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a > -I/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include > /usr/local/src/tools/build/dummy.c > :0: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault: 11 > Please submit a full bug report, > with preprocessed source if appropriate. > See for instructions. > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/local/src/tools/build. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/local/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/local/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/local/src. > > OK, so it quite clearly states, sumbit bug report, but .. > > Any clue? > > Thanks, Erik Contents of your make.conf ? You never know... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 11:47:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BAE2106566C for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:47:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A998FC13 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (unknown [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BD8AC1C0841; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 12:28:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D7612C6.7040500@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:28:06 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Damien Fleuriot References: <4D7607B9.9060806@locolomo.org> <4D76112D.9030907@my.gd> In-Reply-To: <4D76112D.9030907@my.gd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld fail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:47:00 -0000 On 08/03/2011 12:21, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > Contents of your make.conf ? > You never know... LOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT= YES #SUP_UPDATE= #SUP= /usr/bin/csup #SUPFLAGS= -g -L 2 SUPHOST= cvsup.uk.FreeBSD.org SUPFILE= /usr/local/src/standard-supfile PORTSSUPFILE= /usr/local/ports/ports-supfile PORTSDIR= /usr/local/ports WITHOUT_X11=YES WITH_BDB_VER=46 WITH_MODPERL2=YES PYTHON_VERSION=python2.6 PERL_VERSION=5.12.2 Nothing dramatic there... and in the csup file: *default host=cvsup.uk.FreeBSD.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr/local *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all csup'ed the source right before build. Thanks, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 11:49:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364F3106566B for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:49:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92F38FC1E for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so958342wwc.31 for ; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 03:49:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.131.195 with SMTP id y3mr4471657wbs.38.1299584977673; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 03:49:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o6sm499658wbo.15.2011.03.08.03.49.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Mar 2011 03:49:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D7617CF.6060100@my.gd> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:49:35 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Norgaard References: <4D7607B9.9060806@locolomo.org> <4D76112D.9030907@my.gd> <4D7612C6.7040500@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <4D7612C6.7040500@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld fail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:49:39 -0000 On 3/8/11 12:28 PM, Erik Norgaard wrote: > On 08/03/2011 12:21, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> Contents of your make.conf ? >> You never know... > > LOADER_TFTP_SUPPORT= YES > #SUP_UPDATE= > #SUP= /usr/bin/csup > #SUPFLAGS= -g -L 2 > SUPHOST= cvsup.uk.FreeBSD.org > SUPFILE= /usr/local/src/standard-supfile > PORTSSUPFILE= /usr/local/ports/ports-supfile > PORTSDIR= /usr/local/ports > WITHOUT_X11=YES > WITH_BDB_VER=46 > WITH_MODPERL2=YES > PYTHON_VERSION=python2.6 > PERL_VERSION=5.12.2 > > Nothing dramatic there... and in the csup file: > > *default host=cvsup.uk.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/var/db > *default prefix=/usr/local > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 > *default delete use-rel-suffix > *default compress > src-all > > csup'ed the source right before build. > > Thanks, Erik Can you try with the release tag RELENG_8_2 ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 11:52:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E514B106564A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:52:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EACA8FC17 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:52:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (unknown [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 988181C0841; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 12:52:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D761873.2060301@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:52:19 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201103081122.p28BMm1C001805@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201103081122.p28BMm1C001805@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Buildworld fail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:52:23 -0000 On 08/03/2011 12:22, Robert Bonomi wrote: > "Something" -- just what is unknown -- triggered an *INTERNAL*COMPILER*ERROR* > doing a 'makedep'. > > Dig through the mailing-list archives for the last week or two. There was > another report of the compiler choking. As I recall, there was a follow- > up to -that- report that found an 'oops' in a header file, and a simple fix. I just checked the archives, indeed there was a thread but the failure was at a later point, state 1.2 and the fix was to remove some CFLAGS options which I don't have. I didn't find other threads. BR, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 11:54:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B18106564A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:54:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCA28FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:54:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (unknown [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EBFBB1C0841; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 12:54:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D76190E.3050003@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:54:54 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Damien Fleuriot References: <4D7607B9.9060806@locolomo.org> <4D76112D.9030907@my.gd> <4D7612C6.7040500@locolomo.org> <4D7617CF.6060100@my.gd> In-Reply-To: <4D7617CF.6060100@my.gd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld fail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:54:59 -0000 On 08/03/2011 12:49, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > Can you try with the release tag RELENG_8_2 ? I just nuked src and obj and did a fresh checkout of RELENG_8_2, but the problem persist :( -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/local/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp INSTALL="sh /usr/local/src/tools/install.sh" PATH=/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin WORLDTMP=/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp VERSION="FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE i386 801500" MAKEFLAGS="-m /usr/local/src/tools/build/mk -m /usr/local/src/share/mk" make -f Makefile.inc1 DESTDIR= BOOTSTRAPPING=801500 SSP_CFLAGS= -DWITHOUT_HTML -DWITHOUT_INFO -DNO_LINT -DWITHOUT_MAN -DNO_PIC -DWITHOUT_PROFILE -DNO_SHARED -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -DNO_WARNS -DNO_CTF legacy ===> tools/build (obj,includes,depend,all,install) /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/usr/local/src/tools/build created for /usr/local/src/tools/build cd /usr/local/src/tools/build; make buildincludes; make installincludes rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include /usr/local/src/tools/build/dummy.c :0: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault: 11 Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See for instructions. mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/local/src/tools/build. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/local/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/local/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/local/src. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 13:48:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD0F106566C for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 13:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from super_bisquit@yahoo.com) Received: from nm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90EEC8FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 13:48:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Mar 2011 13:35:30 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.9] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Mar 2011 13:35:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Mar 2011 13:35:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 750275.96936.bm@omp1009.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 93296 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Mar 2011 13:35:30 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299591330; bh=N7ODAFM43m+0TTu4VFPeA4n9/45PCPuA0d5M0oC1jNo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GKvjFYMiSF40jUCyNauxe7FcsurpnRa6EE80fo+19gtpay+f+OnNqxcexMFDLIanZ3nvX9sa+JQ33RTTzLeIxlMRFJZF6YIRlOXU5KZPJDUcXE5hfoqE31u6eC1hKvr4nfWDzPOJ2tv6YIHTewdFjcru4+qQRsA+4xK5VMooAXo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eN4NSvKL5xjSi3VGWqlCKoERD6sPXWdjrbU1zLEATxXlz+FyEykML9JcIx80ZssJ0Oxtj9v5ZWk6bByzNOCjYJ1OruRoTnFtVm7B0LEABkABlK46gKCG9nzFUfDptMLym8i93oqK/rF8U6meWH9QD7O4VoVfntotbp/DteXmZVQ=; Message-ID: <114211.93019.qm@web110103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2QrddT4VM1kDyFt6cOvih5cjwnBlncLFnyPJYDa307AA5g5 2uKxFj65T9Vi9ObdobJ5Dx4.w1oKD4nmSGT7z89o6XONG7Uhsr_ZTrWz6XKe 8A.MG2iboMC5JAGt_uy_XSbgl9woEAGLBEh76w8ydbiNkACA536HYFSWAMRP SMTf9C.cEgWWM6IRWReEjqQeblVeD3k1vm.9w_7.i4BGQBztbWIP27Ow7k9S o_uHoQjcjBR_O_Nj.9eJzFjGwHhuWhKpJfENd4693vHuSAbQTjTlHEB3JtqY ELRJZyoWFFJnOsfYIRGRt22aUMUtjSmbvhcQ8tvMbsvXIF6JDzA-- Received: from [98.192.248.217] by web110103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:35:30 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 05:35:30 -0800 (PST) From: Super Biscuit To: current@freebsd.org, freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Limited repository, packages gzipped in groups. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:48:28 -0000 http://code.google.com/p/powerpc-bits-and-pieces/downloads/list The number of packages are limited; but, there is enough of a base to setup X, have a browser, a window manager and a few others. PowerPC only. You'll have to download such as: ftp http://code.google.com/p/powerpc-bits-and-pieces/downloads/list/ and then use tar -xvf to a directory you have selected. Be sure to set your package path to that directory. Everything is for 9.0 CURRENT. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 13:59:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A16106564A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 13:59:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133038FC08 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 13:59:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so1133592wwc.31 for ; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:59:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.210.136 with SMTP id gk8mr4548116wbb.79.1299592757322; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:59:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bd8sm580151wbb.13.2011.03.08.05.59.16 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:59:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D763633.9080404@my.gd> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 14:59:15 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Norgaard References: <4D7607B9.9060806@locolomo.org> <4D76112D.9030907@my.gd> <4D7612C6.7040500@locolomo.org> <4D7617CF.6060100@my.gd> <4D76190E.3050003@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <4D76190E.3050003@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld fail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:59:19 -0000 On 3/8/11 12:54 PM, Erik Norgaard wrote: > On 08/03/2011 12:49, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > >> Can you try with the release tag RELENG_8_2 ? > > I just nuked src and obj and did a fresh checkout of RELENG_8_2, but the > problem persist :( > > -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims > -------------------------------------------------------------- > cd /usr/local/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp > INSTALL="sh /usr/local/src/tools/install.sh" > PATH=/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin > WORLDTMP=/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp VERSION="FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE > i386 801500" MAKEFLAGS="-m /usr/local/src/tools/build/mk -m > /usr/local/src/share/mk" make -f Makefile.inc1 DESTDIR= > BOOTSTRAPPING=801500 SSP_CFLAGS= -DWITHOUT_HTML -DWITHOUT_INFO > -DNO_LINT -DWITHOUT_MAN -DNO_PIC -DWITHOUT_PROFILE -DNO_SHARED > -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -DNO_WARNS -DNO_CTF legacy > ===> tools/build (obj,includes,depend,all,install) > /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/usr/local/src/tools/build created for > /usr/local/src/tools/build > cd /usr/local/src/tools/build; make buildincludes; make installincludes > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a > -I/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include > /usr/local/src/tools/build/dummy.c > :0: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault: 11 > Please submit a full bug report, > with preprocessed source if appropriate. > See for instructions. > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/local/src/tools/build. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/local/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/local/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/local/src. A segfault might be indicative of hardware problems, you may want to check your ram chips ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 14:52:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFAC106564A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 14:52:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16EB8FC16 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 14:52:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 68-189-245-235.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.245.235] helo=cube.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.73 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1PwyH7-000Jgr-6O; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 09:52:47 -0500 Received: from v104.entropy.prv (v104.entropy.prv [192.168.1.104]) by cube.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96E74B868BD; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 09:52:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4D7642B5.7060502@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 09:52:37 -0500 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Damien Fleuriot References: <4D7607B9.9060806@locolomo.org> <4D76112D.9030907@my.gd> <4D7612C6.7040500@locolomo.org> <4D7617CF.6060100@my.gd> <4D76190E.3050003@locolomo.org> <4D763633.9080404@my.gd> In-Reply-To: <4D763633.9080404@my.gd> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 68.189.245.235 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: glarkin@FreeBSD.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail1.sourcehosting.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_DYNAMIC,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.sourcehosting.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld fail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 14:52:50 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 3/8/11 8:59 AM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > > On 3/8/11 12:54 PM, Erik Norgaard wrote: >> On 08/03/2011 12:49, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> >>> Can you try with the release tag RELENG_8_2 ? >> >> I just nuked src and obj and did a fresh checkout of RELENG_8_2, but the >> problem persist :( >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> cd /usr/local/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp >> INSTALL="sh /usr/local/src/tools/install.sh" >> PATH=/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin >> WORLDTMP=/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp VERSION="FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE >> i386 801500" MAKEFLAGS="-m /usr/local/src/tools/build/mk -m >> /usr/local/src/share/mk" make -f Makefile.inc1 DESTDIR= >> BOOTSTRAPPING=801500 SSP_CFLAGS= -DWITHOUT_HTML -DWITHOUT_INFO >> -DNO_LINT -DWITHOUT_MAN -DNO_PIC -DWITHOUT_PROFILE -DNO_SHARED >> -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -DNO_WARNS -DNO_CTF legacy >> ===> tools/build (obj,includes,depend,all,install) >> /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/usr/local/src/tools/build created for >> /usr/local/src/tools/build >> cd /usr/local/src/tools/build; make buildincludes; make installincludes >> rm -f .depend >> mkdep -f .depend -a >> -I/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include >> /usr/local/src/tools/build/dummy.c >> :0: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault: 11 >> Please submit a full bug report, >> with preprocessed source if appropriate. >> See for instructions. >> mkdep: compile failed >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/local/src/tools/build. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/local/src. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/local/src. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/local/src. > > > A segfault might be indicative of hardware problems, you may want to > check your ram chips ? Reference: http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ Regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk12QrUACgkQ0sRouByUApCv8gCfW5VAxdQMxBODVIGb48VeyTuC 3HMAniBloVnLvDYygjb4xYNTlMcxG6T4 =N82F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 14:54:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870A3106566C for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 14:54:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425158FC1D for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 14:54:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyh4 with SMTP id 4so2359893gyh.13 for ; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 06:54:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Gx/OZ0Y0jW+iMHXT8iVg+z5L7Lq+aV0vfW2DZLv45oQ=; b=f/J8cXG3L2BXjC9nbYZ+arS5BnmtxCIqjcR3I+eEmOnoAmrrh+/4IfcSPg1luILEmV KmP55AgJslmnithg6ULiXPdvE0JQmzltV34J8+IP0R4f/bYh7fLpBC4xfnfvZNMyd9su IS8lD7bSBQCPwUXrtpEmbc/8kIW5P01YevgrU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=uKwhw8rVSjLGhHq2NLG5RQEV97LuNjcf5kqKkWvfQi/gzQQDoHtW/n/Bx2S9t61SLV 75WUfYJRqwHRJRPssk5P+9Y87eh9CzPB+FLEYFLvgD3DPDaAcAu02kZ5+zMrl9BAKTnR mcubEmnaFhLESB37WcQnTxmSN+ETRZoe9RUms= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.85.66 with SMTP id t42mr5290812yhe.50.1299596074411; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 06:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.108.44 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 06:54:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201103071815.28819.lumiwa@gmail.com> References: <201103070601.46465.lumiwa@gmail.com> <201103071815.28819.lumiwa@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 14:54:34 +0000 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: ajtiM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: python27 update-py-psyco X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 14:54:36 -0000 On 3/8/11, ajtiM wrote: > On Monday March 7 2011 08:37:46 b. f. wrote: >> On 3/7/11, ajtiM wrote: >> > On Sunday March 6 2011 12:01:47 b. f. wrote: >> > >> > Thank you. I am reading /usr/ports/UPDATING special like now but there >> > are problems. And I have a problem again with /usr/ports/devel/py-psyco >> > I get: >> > c/mergepoints.c:242: error 'JUMP_IF_FALSE' undeclared here >> > *** Error code 1 ... > Thank you very much for reply but I see that is not possible to build it (I > red about psyco on mailing list). > For now everything works but I have more ports to rebuild but psyco is the > big > problem. Well, I'm not sure what list you are referring to here, but you should still be able to build it, if you set PYTHON_VERSION to python2.5 or python2.6 in your build environment, on the command-line, or in any included Makefile (like, for example, /etc/make.conf or $PORTSDIR/devel/py-psyco/Makefile.local). Of course, if you are using psyco with some other software, then you may have to do the same for that software. You can do that conditionally if you are doing it in some common Makefile like /etc/make.conf, and still want to use other software with another version of python. For example: .if${.CURDIR:M*/ports/devel/py-psyco} PYTHON_VERSION=python2.6 .endif b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 15:00:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26158106566C for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 15:00:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDFC8FC17 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 15:00:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (unknown [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1E5481C0841; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:00:51 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D7644A2.5020505@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 16:00:50 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org References: <4D7607B9.9060806@locolomo.org> <4D76112D.9030907@my.gd> <4D7612C6.7040500@locolomo.org> <4D7617CF.6060100@my.gd> <4D76190E.3050003@locolomo.org> <4D763633.9080404@my.gd> <4D7642B5.7060502@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4D7642B5.7060502@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Damien Fleuriot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld fail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 15:00:53 -0000 On 08/03/2011 15:52, Greg Larkin wrote: >> A segfault might be indicative of hardware problems, you may want to >> check your ram chips ? > > Reference: http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ Hi, thanks. Did a clean up again, reboot, fsck, reboot again and now it's building. Probably time for an upgrade, it's a three year old VIA itx system with even older RAM module. BR, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 15:13:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF7A106564A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 15:13:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meta@club.kyutech.ac.jp) Received: from sapphire.club.kyutech.ac.jp (sapphire.club.kyutech.ac.jp [131.206.108.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C868FC0C for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 15:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sapphire.club.kyutech.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sapphire.club.kyutech.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F151149C; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 00:13:20 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at club.kyutech.ac.jp Received: from club.kyutech.ac.jp (rose.club.kyutech.ac.jp [131.206.108.6]) by sapphire.club.kyutech.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1F2411442; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 00:13:19 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 00:13:18 +0900 From: Kouichiro Iwao To: Frank Shute Message-ID: <20110308151318.GA21394@club.kyutech.ac.jp> References: <20110303145314.GA54198@club.kyutech.ac.jp> <20110304194640.GB1394@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110304194640.GB1394@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: license of the code in freebsd documantation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 15:13:22 -0000 Thank you for your information. I will treat them under FreeBSD license. On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 07:46:40PM +0000, Frank Shute wrote: > Since those scripts have been contributed to the FreeBSD project, I > would treat them as if they had the standard FreeBSD license. > > If you do that, then you should be playing safe i.e they're almost > certainly not under a more restrictive license. -- kiwao From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 15:51:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4020A106566C for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 15:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022D68FC15 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 15:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p28FpMAF009909; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 08:51:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p28FpMK9009906; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 08:51:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 08:51:22 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: "O. Hartmann" In-Reply-To: <4D75EB04.7090704@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: References: <4D75EB04.7090704@zedat.fu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 08 Mar 2011 08:51:22 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xpdf can not print via cups if started from firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 15:51:23 -0000 On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, O. Hartmann wrote: > I've got a weird problem here. Very often I download scientific papers as pdf > from protals and they got opened via firefox3 with the configured propper > utility, in this case xpdf. In such a case, printing is impossible. I hit the > print button, a popup shows up with the configured CUPS printing queue, but > hitting OK doesn't have any effect. The funny thing is: when opening the same > PDF (it is stored in /tmp/) with xpdf by starting xpdf from a terminal, > printing on the same queue works well. In your .xpdfrc, do you specify a full path to the CUPS lpr? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 16:44:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA0D106564A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remegius@comcast.net) Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCA78FC0A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 16:44:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GgjX1g0060vyq2s54gktWs; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 16:44:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([67.180.204.190]) by omta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ggkp1g00F46zqiB3RgkqfX; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 16:44:51 +0000 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 08:44:47 -0800 From: Rem P Roberti To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110308164447.GA25644@bsd.remdog.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Open Office Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 16:44:53 -0000 While trying in install Open Office the install choked at one point and I received this error message: Entering /usr/tmp/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work/OOO330_m20/sw/uiconfig/layout Entering /usr/tmp/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work/OOO330_m20/sw/qa/unoapi Entering /usr/tmp/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work/OOO330_m20/sw/util sw deliver 1 module(s): sc need(s) to be rebuilt Reason(s): ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /usr/tmp/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work/OOO330_m20/sc/source/filter/xml Attention: if you fix the errors in above module(s) you may prolongue your the build issuing command: build --from sc *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3. Apparently I can pick up the build by using "build --from sc", but I'm not sure how to incorporate that into a command, and would appreciate a heads up on that. Thanks... Rem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 17:10:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BF5106566B for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:10:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E598FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.magehandbook.com (www.darkmindweb.net [192.168.1.100]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F282845B for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 12:10:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from 152.121.16.254 (SquirrelMail authenticated user daniel) by www.magehandbook.com with HTTP; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 12:10:32 -0500 Message-ID: <2ff7b141c67ac6576db9fcf78e624032.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <65427422-E170-49B9-9441-1CE3843422A6@lafn.org> References: <65427422-E170-49B9-9441-1CE3843422A6@lafn.org> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 12:10:32 -0500 From: "Daniel Staal" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Server not booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: DStaal@usa.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 17:10:33 -0000 On Tue, March 8, 2011 3:16 am, Doug Hardie wrote: > I have been tasked with bringing up a "new" server. It appears to be > fairly old equipment though. I do know it was previously used. Its a > Arima NM46X with dual AMD Opteron processors. The unit appears to be > working since it has some form of Linux installed on the disks and that > boots and seems to run. However, I have tried booting from CD 8.2 and > 8.0. using Disk 1 and Repair disks (AMD64 and i386). They all die just > after the first stage loader. I get the system version line and then the > spinner stops dead. The CD is an external USB unit and its left running. > The motherboard doesn't recognize a USB stick for booting unfortunately. > The motherboard manual is dated 2006 so I think its just too old for that. > Any ideas on how this can be > corrected? The CD being USB and not being able to boot off of a USB stick might well be related. It's possible it can't boot from a USB drive at all. My first thought on that is to check the BIOS settings: It's hard to believe a 64-bit box is incapable of booting off USB at all, but it's easy to believe that it's set to not be able to. Otherwise, I'd try looking at what other options you might have. Even opening up the box and temporarily attaching a SATA CD drive might be worth a try. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 18:03:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5671065673 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 18:03:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AEC8FC13 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 18:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1Px1G8-0000xp-5t>; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:03:48 +0100 Received: from e178036208.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.36.208] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1Px1G8-0004xl-1b>; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:03:48 +0100 Message-ID: <4D766F83.6060404@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:03:47 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110305 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4D75EB04.7090704@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.36.208 Cc: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xpdf can not print via cups if started from firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 18:03:49 -0000 On 03/08/11 16:51, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, O. Hartmann wrote: > >> I've got a weird problem here. Very often I download scientific papers >> as pdf from protals and they got opened via firefox3 with the >> configured propper utility, in this case xpdf. In such a case, >> printing is impossible. I hit the print button, a popup shows up with >> the configured CUPS printing queue, but hitting OK doesn't have any >> effect. The funny thing is: when opening the same PDF (it is stored in >> /tmp/) with xpdf by starting xpdf from a terminal, printing on the >> same queue works well. > > In your .xpdfrc, do you specify a full path to the CUPS lpr? No, I do not. And while making this confession, I'll change this as soon as possible and report back. I guess this is a very good hint ... Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 18:16:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A035D106566B for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 18:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE968FC13 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 18:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1Px1S1-0002aG-DL>; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:16:05 +0100 Received: from e178036208.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.36.208] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1Px1S1-0005dR-AG>; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:16:05 +0100 Message-ID: <4D767265.80406@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:16:05 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110305 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.36.208 Subject: xorg-driver/xf86-video-ati-6.14.0: Worse performance since last update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 18:16:06 -0000 Since the last update of Xorg stuff, including the xf86-video-ati-6.14.0, the video performance of all of our AMD/ATi-driven boxes went worse. The bad performance also occur with the recommendations made in ports/UPDATING for driver "radeon". Without those recommendated adding of options even with a working xorg.conf file the performance stays worse. Worse means: using vlc (also after recompilation after upgrades made!), videos are massively bumpy and can not be watched with vlc-screen fully expanded to 1900x1200 pixel with HD4830 graphics card - this worked perfectly before. Moving windows around now looks like having chunks of video content floating around - as on unaccelerated/slow graphics boards. What's wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 18:32:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2751065670 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 18:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49898FC15 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 18:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p28IW8h5055705; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:32:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8AA05BA8F; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:32:04 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:32:04 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: "O. Hartmann" Message-ID: <20110308183204.GB25750@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <4D767265.80406@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aVD9QWMuhilNxW9f" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D767265.80406@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg-driver/xf86-video-ati-6.14.0: Worse performance since last update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 18:32:11 -0000 --aVD9QWMuhilNxW9f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 07:16:05PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > Since the last update of Xorg stuff, including the=20 > xf86-video-ati-6.14.0, the video performance of all of our=20 > AMD/ATi-driven boxes went worse. > The bad performance also occur with the recommendations made in=20 > ports/UPDATING for driver "radeon". Without those recommendated adding=20 > of options even with a working xorg.conf file the performance stays worse. The recommendations have been removed from UPDATING; with the exception of = the "DynamicPM" option, all the others are at their default settings and theref= ore not necessary. > Worse means: using vlc (also after recompilation after upgrades made!),= =20 > videos are massively bumpy and can not be watched with vlc-screen fully= =20 > expanded to 1900x1200 pixel with HD4830 graphics card - this worked=20 > perfectly before. Check out the logfile '/var/log/Xorg.0.log' if you see anything unusual. > Moving windows around now looks like having chunks of video content=20 > floating around - as on unaccelerated/slow graphics boards. When looking at the logfile '/var/log/Xorg.0.log', does it say the followin= g; (II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled (II) RADEON(0): Set up textured video Personally, I have built this port with one of the patches removed. In my c= ase the patch in question hung my machine every time! (there was quite a large thread about it on the mailing-list) Try removing the patch /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati/files/patch-src-radeon_driver.c and re-install the driver. If that works you can make the change permanent like this: # cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati/files # truncate -s 0 patch-src-radeon_driver.c # chflags schg,sunlnk patch-src-radeon_driver.c Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --aVD9QWMuhilNxW9f Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk12diQACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVHhACfUDWosvSk4J43F4jBpwqOzMWJ VfsAnjO2zK3Lcx5g7fEXM3rE3Foi1n+s =c28S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aVD9QWMuhilNxW9f-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 19:41:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BF2106564A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:41:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F238FC1B for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 19:41:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so6045992iwn.13 for ; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:41:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.133.129 with SMTP id h1mr6632409ict.486.1299613292184; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:41:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from tech304 (supranet-tech.secure-on.net [66.170.8.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wo11sm196405icb.20.2011.03.08.11.41.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:41:30 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Daniel Staal" References: <65427422-E170-49B9-9441-1CE3843422A6@lafn.org> <2ff7b141c67ac6576db9fcf78e624032.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:41:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Mark Felder" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <2ff7b141c67ac6576db9fcf78e624032.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.01 (FreeBSD) Cc: Subject: Re: Server not booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:41:38 -0000 On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:10:32 -0600, Daniel Staal wrote: >> Arima NM46X with dual AMD Opteron processors. My dual Opteron S2895 board does this as well. Latest BIOS and everything. I can get it to boot off of a flash drive but I can't get it to boot off a CDROM. FreeBSD just disagrees with it. I've never tried a USB CDROM, though. Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 20:06:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7156106564A for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 20:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkearney@nvita.org) Received: from squirrelserver.nvita.org (nvita.org [173.10.132.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838928FC13 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 20:06:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org ([192.168.0.3]) by SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org ([192.168.0.3]) with mapi; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 15:16:51 -0500 From: "Michael J. Kearney" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 15:16:50 -0500 Thread-Topic: Buildworld fail Thread-Index: AcvdhIt058K15DstRHeTWFJFHw1pBgASTbWU Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Buildworld fail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 20:06:40 -0000 Would anyone agree that it us possible the hardware console... logging in f= rom a remote terminal has corrected my own segfaults on substandard hardwar= e... Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 3/8/11 11:40 AM, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Hi: > > I'm trying to upgrade to 8.2, just updated source, cleaned up any > leftovers from previous build, but make buildworld fails. I have, > > alpha# uname -a > FreeBSD alpha 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #0: Sat Oct 2 20:34:13 CEST > 2010 root@alpha:/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > alpha# echo $MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX > /usr/local/obj > alpha# make buildworld > -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> World build started on Tue Mar 8 11:30:53 CET 2011 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree > -------------------------------------------------------------- > rm -rf /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp > mkdir -p /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/lib > mkdir -p /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/usr > mkdir -p /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr > mtree -deU -f /usr/local/src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist -p > /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr >/dev/null > mtree -deU -f /usr/local/src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist -p > /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/usr >/dev/null > mtree -deU -f /usr/local/src/etc/mtree/BSD.include.dist -p > /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/usr/include >/dev/null > ln -sf /usr/local/src/sys /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp > > -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims > -------------------------------------------------------------- > cd /usr/local/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=3D/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp > INSTALL=3D"sh /usr/local/src/tools/install.sh" > PATH=3D/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/local/obj/us= r/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/= games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin > WORLDTMP=3D/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp VERSION=3D"FreeBSD 8.1-STAB= LE > i386 801500" MAKEFLAGS=3D"-m /usr/local/src/tools/build/mk -m > /usr/local/src/share/mk" make -f Makefile.inc1 DESTDIR=3D > BOOTSTRAPPING=3D801500 SSP_CFLAGS=3D -DWITHOUT_HTML -DWITHOUT_INFO > -DNO_LINT -DWITHOUT_MAN -DNO_PIC -DWITHOUT_PROFILE -DNO_SHARED > -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -DNO_WARNS -DNO_CTF legacy > =3D=3D=3D> tools/build (obj,includes,depend,all,install) > /usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/usr/local/src/tools/build created for > /usr/local/src/tools/build > cd /usr/local/src/tools/build; make buildincludes; make installincludes > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a > -I/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include > /usr/local/src/tools/build/dummy.c > :0: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault: 11 > Please submit a full bug report, > with preprocessed source if appropriate. > See for instructions. > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/local/src/tools/build. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/local/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/local/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/local/src. > > OK, so it quite clearly states, sumbit bug report, but .. > > Any clue? > > Thanks, Erik Contents of your make.conf ? You never know... _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 20:30:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8125B106566C for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 20:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from omr14.networksolutionsemail.com (omr14.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F02C8FC13 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 20:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cm-omr3 (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr14.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p28KBRAS030286 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 15:11:27 -0500 X-Authenticated-IP: 71.113.145.231 Received: from [71.113.145.231] ([71.113.145.231:9418] helo=VGC-RB53) by cm-omr3 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTP id A6/7C-18028-E6D867D4; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 15:11:27 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 14:11:25 -0600 From: Chris To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110308141125.60c4982a@VGC-RB53> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.22.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Fresh binary install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 20:30:49 -0000 Hi everyone - Getting back in to FBSD after a 2 year absence. I have the 8.2 DVD (1) and would rather do a binary install and have it working out of the box with Gnome. Minimal tweaking after the fact would be preferred along with binary updates opposed to using the ports tree. The goal - to keep this system running with as little intervention as possible (I suspect binary updates/upgrades is the way to go since it was something that was just starting a few years back). I'm moving away from a Linux system but do not wish to dedicate the time I used long ago. As I mentioned, it's been a few years so I would appreciate the best way to do this. Any an all guidance would be great. -- Best regards, Chris 1AB5FEF8 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 20:53:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2BE1065676 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 20:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25068FC17 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 20:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-114-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.114.16]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDFC1E40C; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:53:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p28Kr47l001523; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:53:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:53:04 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Chris Message-Id: <20110308215304.ef514c63.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110308141125.60c4982a@VGC-RB53> References: <20110308141125.60c4982a@VGC-RB53> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fresh binary install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 20:53:07 -0000 On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 14:11:25 -0600, Chris wrote: > Hi everyone - > > Getting back in to FBSD after a 2 year absence. I have the 8.2 DVD (1) > and would rather do a binary install and have it working out of the box > with Gnome. Minimal tweaking after the fact would be preferred along > with binary updates opposed to using the ports tree. > > The goal - to keep this system running with as little intervention as > possible (I suspect binary updates/upgrades is the way to go since it > was something that was just starting a few years back). > > I'm moving away from a Linux system but do not wish to dedicate the > time I used long ago. > > As I mentioned, it's been a few years so I would appreciate the best > way to do this. Any an all guidance would be great. If this is your intention, how about this: Keep the system updated with freebsd-update, following the -RELEASE branch (including patches). Installed applications can - in MOSt cases - also be updated binarily, using e. g. "portupgrade -PP" for the port in question (and -a for all of them, and maybe -r); refer to "man portupgrade" for details. You can also use the method by updating the applications by source. The key to this is to keep the ports tree up to date, and tools like "portsnap fetch extract" can help you with this. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 21:03:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781861065675 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:03:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7CF8FC14 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:03:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (unknown [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A595A1C0841 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:03:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D76998D.6000705@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:03:09 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Buildworld fail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 21:03:11 -0000 On 08/03/2011 21:16, Michael J. Kearney wrote: > Would anyone agree that it us possible the hardware console... logging in from a remote terminal has corrected my own segfaults on substandard hardware... Depends on the hardware I guess. I am building everything remotely. I do know however that these VIA EPIA boards are known for a flacky disk controler, and the RAM I have installed is slower than the recommended, so it's not really ideal for reliable operation. BR, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 8 22:25:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E7A1065675 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB2C8FC17 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:25:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr18.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p28MPHUj072949; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 23:25:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 21CB1BA8D; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 23:25:17 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 23:25:17 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Chris Message-ID: <20110308222517.GA30691@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20110308141125.60c4982a@VGC-RB53> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110308141125.60c4982a@VGC-RB53> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fresh binary install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:25:20 -0000 --G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 02:11:25PM -0600, Chris wrote: > The goal - to keep this system running with as little intervention as > possible (I suspect binary updates/upgrades is the way to go since it > was something that was just starting a few years back).=20 Keeping the system itself up to date can be done with freebsd-update(8). But that will only provide the GENERIC kernel (and modules of course). A lot of ports are available as packages as well. One caveat is that those packages are built using the standard options defined per port. If you don't like those, you'll have to compile yourself. And there are of course ports that are not available as packages for several reasons. You can choose to install packages from several directories on the FTP site; packages-8-stable or packages-8.2-release depending on what you want. The packages-8.2-release directory is AFAIK a snapshot of packages-8-stable at = the moment 8.2 was released. If you install packages from -release, you'll only have to update them with a new release. But you won't have the latest and greatest, and to the best of my knowledge you will not get updated packages= if there are vulnerabilities discovered. OTOH, if you install packages from packages-8-stable you will have to contend with more frequent updates. Personally I've built all my ports from source, and I update them every oth= er week or so using portsnap(8) and portmaster(8). 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In the user.action file i have a redirect rule and a few websites: { +redirect{s@http://@https://@} } .twitter.com .facebook.com Ok! it's working great, e.g.: if i visit any "*twitter.com" URL it gets redirected to HTTPS! But: with wireshark i can see some "OCSP" packets [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Certificate_Status_Protocol ] Question: What are these packets? Why aren't there in HTTPS? Is my redirection method with privoxy is secure? Thank you for any tips/opinions! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 09:53:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D890106564A for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 09:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nr1c0re@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415D78FC0A for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 09:53:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg11 with SMTP id 11so72493pvg.13 for ; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 01:53:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lEKpRGe7qEOUc8IdRyXX+zIPUnAVaWqFTyys6kCUOac=; b=l7lZgRpvDlF3oA1jhhEMbSb30USgRuKsukLAmheopaU3IZrmd4D/g091hMIo/43V7+ XSJD28fLTu0++QMXubFM1mYUD21YEuR+M9OPuRDjqdepBaK+Q2BToGuQr6EFTBHJoQAp OAFn6c8zTkveqPpbjHrbu+yy9eYMhnAKH3Eqg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oa+0BTIFehOZAjGZjNCx59E3cSx1WaFlriMWmrgQmoHz/XGjGN6pllgj9It6eIS85D h7/hXjW+zzV+kv3cuoqz7k15zUCQtOFQgjGUf8U5wWmpz4MUuNy//Kp7IVDctjXXwO2H ab5SlbNqBPO/fu83RZ9Nz3tji13LRN08WChno= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.245.10 with SMTP id s10mr4341180wfh.423.1299664396649; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 01:53:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.225.18 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 01:53:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 12:53:16 +0300 Message-ID: From: c0re To: "illoai@gmail.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Portupgrade and "Updating the portsdb" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:53:17 -0000 2011/2/11 illoai@gmail.com : > On 10 February 2011 08:33, c0re wrote: >> Hello all! >> >> I've got set of servers that uses NFS mounted /usr/ports. When I use >> "portupgrade samba" on 1st server it says >> [/usr/ports/INDEX-7.db: unexpected file type or format -- Invalid >> argument] [Updating the portsdb in /usr/ports ... - >> 22601 port entries found =A0error] Remove and try again. >> [Updating the portsdb in /usr/ports ... - 22601 port >> entries found ..... >> ..... done] >> >> Okay. It took 10-15 mins to rebuild. >> >> Then I say "portupgrade samba" on 2nd server it says again >> [/usr/ports/INDEX-7.db: unexpected file type or format -- Invalid >> argument] [Updating the portsdb in /usr/ports ... - >> 22601 port entries found =A0error] Remove and try again. >> and rebuild portsdb. >> >> Why is it so? >> >> Ports are updated via "portsnap fetch update". >> >> /etc/portsnap.conf has >> INDEX INDEX-5 DESCRIBE.5 >> INDEX INDEX-6 DESCRIBE.6 >> INDEX INDEX-7 DESCRIBE.7 >> INDEX INDEX-8 DESCRIBE.8 >> >> So while portupgrade rebuilds portsdb it's not possible use >> portupgrade on 2nd server because later build process will fail on 1st >> or second server. >> >> What can I do with it? Why portupgrade always thinks that >> [/usr/ports/INDEX-7.db: unexpected file type or format -- Invalid >> argument]? >> > > The INDEX-n.db is a locally generated portupgrade thing. > > Edit your /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf for each machine to > include a line such as: > ENV['PORTS_INDEX'] ||=3D ENV['PORTSDIR'] + '/INDEX.local' > > Only instead of '/INDEX.local' use '/INDEX.your_hostname_here'. > > You might also look at changing the part ENV['PORTSDIR'] to > something local (speed, etc), like adding a line up from that: > ENV['LOCALINDICES'] ||=3D '/var/db' > > then > > ENV['PORTS_INDEX'] ||=3D ENV['LOCALINDICES'] + '/INDEX.thy_hostname_here' > > > Also, if you have local space, settin' WRKDIRPREFIX=3D in > /etc/make.conf will speed things up & allow multiple machines > to build at the same time. > > HTH > -- > -- > It's time to make upgrade of some packages. I configured ENV['PORTS_INDEX'] =3D '/var/db/INDEX' ENV['PORTS_DBDIR'] =3D ENV['PKG_DBDIR'] in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf, assuming that PKG_DBDIR is /var/db/pkg and "portupgrade sudo" results Fetching the ports index ... fetch: /usr/ports/INDEX-7.bz2: open(): Read-only file system *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports. failed to fetch INDEX! Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please wait..cannot create /usr/ports/INDEX.tmp.tmp: Read-only file system Warning: Duplicate INDEX entry: py25-bsddb-2.5.5_2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports. failed to generate INDEX! index generation error /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.rb:493:in `open_db': database file error (PortsDB::DBError) from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.rb:661:in `port' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.rb:849:in `all_depends_list' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:843:in `tsort_build= ' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:835:in `each' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:835:in `tsort_build= ' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:857:in `sort_build' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:861:in `sort_build!= ' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:792:in `main' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:791:in `initialize' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:229:in `new' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:229:in `main' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:2213 Any workaround with "Fetching the ports index"? There exists /usr/ports/INDEX-7, but portupgrade tryes to fetch it again and failes, cose /usr/ports is read-only mounted. Changing ENV['PORTSDIR'] ||=3D '/var/ports' make no sense because it's obvious that PORTSDIR should look at ports base (/usr/ports) # portupgrade sudo ** Port directory not found: security/sudo ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) - security/sudo (port directory error) Still looking for a solution about using portupgrade with read-only mounted /usr/ports. And yes, i'm using WRKDIRPREFIX in /etc/make.conf. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 10:11:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534431065672 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 10:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344E58FC1B for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 10:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p29ABV0n089102 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 9 Mar 2011 02:11:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p29ABVrm089101; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 02:11:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA24422; Wed, 9 Mar 11 02:01:00 PST Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 02:01:04 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: bc979@lafn.org Message-Id: <4d774fe0.NIplwah9AckU8V12%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <65427422-E170-49B9-9441-1CE3843422A6@lafn.org> In-Reply-To: <65427422-E170-49B9-9441-1CE3843422A6@lafn.org> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Server not booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 10:11:32 -0000 Doug Hardie wrote: > The motherboard doesn't recognize a USB stick for booting > unfortunately. The motherboard manual is dated 2006 so > I think its just too old for that. This http://www.plop.at/ can be loaded off just about any device the system _can_ boot from, and stands a good chance of booting from a USB stick. (Works for me on an old Dell, loaded from floppy and booting a FreeBSD memstick image.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 12:49:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39A31065672 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 12:49:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkeramidas@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7F98FC08 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 12:49:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyh4 with SMTP id 4so241100gyh.13 for ; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 04:49:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1JdirqCk7oO4O2Ia+2/+L8aWGM2QY0PugPR2Bmgr6tQ=; b=Cj7KIRU8h+tWb21k6XACZdGkEFwaJvozi2jx1CeQJKcX42dNK6NjNFSttd8FVLuss1 uuJ7x0VlKY1ZPWSmKNiQ6+tGitnh5muK8qQcUEaT47hBde4F4lrMUchzlV1orBdqwh4k sl+V5pT6CzWsgePxED/6r3Q8K65D5BKxyeQz8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=W8/kHfM0TzKBxTboIXuk4kPtU6Hf3hVOPYPYOe6qlboPIc81IOJjZFJaASzYWUVuwm cqbNVRqwDKPwRjoknjFt4nNJEBl8XDfGWNoPbuLV36mJq5MjNXvTKlfr1VUZ97AJUoOF Vpq4ZNK6eAY+VAQnHO1QktR6VMjSB9rC+m0ho= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.147.58.20 with SMTP id l20mr1257019yak.26.1299673285974; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 04:21:25 -0800 (PST) Sender: gkeramidas@gmail.com Received: by 10.147.40.19 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 04:21:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110303145314.GA54198@club.kyutech.ac.jp> References: <20110303145314.GA54198@club.kyutech.ac.jp> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:21:25 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: pHcKjcliSoiSHglFw9MlcWqKU7M Message-ID: From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Kouichiro Iwao Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: license of the code in freebsd documantation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 12:49:47 -0000 2011/3/3 Kouichiro Iwao : > I'm writing a script based on the code in freebsd docs, and caring > about the license of it. The original scripts are example 6 and 7 of > the following page. How do I have to treat my code if I distribute it? > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/ldap-auth/client.html > > I know freebsd docs is licensed under The FreeBSD Documantation > License but don't know about codes in them. Everything included in the FreeBSD documentation set is covered by the license. We don't have a special clause in the license for code that is inline to the documentation. Therefore, you can safely use this code under the same terms as the documentation itself. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 13:28:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B311065672 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:28:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EFF68FC15 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PxJR1-0007kC-Id for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 05:28:15 -0800 Message-ID: <31106351.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 05:28:15 -0800 (PST) From: Pavel Timofeev To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31106239.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: timp87@gmail.com References: <31106239.post@talk.nabble.com> Subject: Re: java plugin for firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 13:28:16 -0000 Pavel Timofeev wrote: > > Is it necessary to install libxul for enabling java plugin in firefox3.6? > Excuse me. I use FreeBSD 8.2 RELEASE i386, firefox3.6, openjdk6 -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/java-plugin-for-firefox-tp31106239p31106351.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 13:57:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDEE106566B for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:57:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88F08FC17 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:57:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from russet.local (reflex.squiz.co.uk [83.217.109.164]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p29Dv0qq048072 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:57:06 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p29Dv0qq048072 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1299679026; bh=kkynunKEyunw1JuXjLGtF4+pvU4aYy6ddmOZb3ezf94=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4D778720.9090704@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20W ed,=2009=20Mar=202011=2013:56:48=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.15)=20Gecko/20110303=20Thunderbird/3.1.9|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20what=20is= 20the=20=3D?windows-1252?Q?=3D93Online_Certificate_Statu?=3D=0D=0A =20=3D?windows-1252?Q?s_Protocol=3D94?=3D|References:=20<12e99f423 ff.2462355771286561226.-9090912966546650150@zoho.com>|In-Reply-To: =20<12e99f423ff.2462355771286561226.-9090912966546650150@zoho.com> |X-Enigmail-Version:=201.1.1|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=2 0micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signatur e"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig6D3628825125184F106FD829 "; b=0GstPmrU5QgStc7DSd/L4H+RBJ/HU42mcUisYZe+ral7jG1hjEcvHag9i1iAS6hNi AzBDRnoUIJMcvz2fN7gLaxZ14lJ7OH/esZwsNJKFTQfbqNV88HFzvnQ4O6VZMdKKuW uHx84dKyWNjHKINW5e7cEos2xUowJ92q0RxIXwXM= X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host reflex.squiz.co.uk [83.217.109.164] claimed to be russet.local Message-ID: <4D778720.9090704@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 13:56:48 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <12e99f423ff.2462355771286561226.-9090912966546650150@zoho.com> In-Reply-To: <12e99f423ff.2462355771286561226.-9090912966546650150@zoho.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig6D3628825125184F106FD829" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: what is the =?windows-1252?q?=93Online_Certificate_Status_Pro?= =?windows-1252?q?tocol=94?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 13:57:11 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig6D3628825125184F106FD829 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/03/2011 09:30, erikmccaskey64 wrote: > But: with wireshark i can see some "OCSP" packets [ http://en.wikipedia= =2Eorg/wiki/Online_Certificate_Status_Protocol ] >=20 >=20 > Question: What are these packets? Why aren't there in HTTPS? This is your browser trying to check if the SSL certs for the sites you are visiting are still valid. Certs can be cancelled by their issuer before the built-in expiration date for various reasons -- eg. if there has been a security compromise on the server and it is suspected that someone has been able to steal the key and cert. OCSP is one means of checking SSL certificate validity. Another is checking Certificate Revocation Lists issued by CAs. Neither of these require encryption at the network level, as the content that is downloaded is already cryptographically signed. Since it is public knowledge, all the crypto is used for is to authenticate the data, not encrypt it. 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Click here to unsubscribe: http://www.localvisibility.org/unsubscribe.aspx?e=freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 15:45:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096E41065670 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:45:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD9D8FC0C for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:45:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62B65E298 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:26:38 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.409 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.409 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.191, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id olNFgfv+De+B for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:26:36 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716705E39D for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:26:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D779C5F.3000301@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:27:27 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110307 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Installing squid, where should the directories be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:45:21 -0000 Hello list. I'm installing squid on a new 8.2-RELEASE machine. I've done it it before with squid 2.x and I have notes to follow. A few questions have turned up. I have /usr/local/squid as default directory and has made a separate mount point. When it comes to the cache and the logs directory I can see that the squid installation has created the /var/squid/cache directory. When Googling this problem I see both the use of /var/squid and /usr/local/squid. Where should it be? When running the command squid -z to initialize the cache the cache directory must be there otherwise the command won't work. How should I set the permissions on /usr/local/squid and the directories below? I find what I consider conflicting information, often it's quite dated. I could not find any advise in the Handbook. I'll be happy to help making a squid chapter. Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 16:06:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0591065677 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.wilcox@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1948B8FC13 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:06:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yie12 with SMTP id 12so297614yie.13 for ; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 08:06:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Ly5Rzua+bVRpuz6AFWMj730Y8O0sdXOm9mWZWKQRa+0=; b=X2wUEOmBColNpRGpeXN3g0V06BXeV8QpB/KMpYU3qa2Umua9tWvJqfr0QVPbhOicDx d2+k8oAQYBKn4HP1OvpKwwSqrVOUCUb5QnJ6q6udJ8fy9s+eahA03VT+jhdQG0somIoJ QVanM8f2YrE4AJrrj4aqkR1EaIMiXJF+u0e0U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=kHM975jwjw7K0VGIUA3TawNqaGsZhouGh1C5QDHCcaN/adpPeEP1nrOkZZRet5GPsi CXFLqRkaWIcLckL9awmgx/Kj+EsEHTrQXzp9dijcucI/5XdNg1+la4DdywlIuQehTDKi vkQjEUJlikiWHvsC0FH0Y+iXvubffHWU+xDww= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.124.6 with SMTP id b6mr7889414ybn.267.1299686765196; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 08:06:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.91.206.19 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:06:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D779C5F.3000301@eskk.nu> References: <4D779C5F.3000301@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:06:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: Kevin Wilcox To: Leslie Jensen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing squid, where should the directories be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:06:06 -0000 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:27, Leslie Jensen wrote: > I'm installing squid on a new 8.2-RELEASE machine. Me too. > I have /usr/local/squid as default directory and has made a separate mount > point. Same here. As a general rule I like to give squid its own hard drive, or its own RAID. Giving it a separate partition on a single drive is useful if you're concerned about filling the disk but that *should* be controlled by the squid configuration file. Still, it's a good idea. > When it comes to the cache and the logs directory I can see that the squid > installation has created the /var/squid/cache directory. I've always seen /var/squid as being very "Linux-centric". /usr/local/squid or /usr/local/var/squid makes more sense to me. > When Googling this problem I see both the use of /var/squid and > /usr/local/squid. > Where should it be? Yep, ultimately it doesn't matter as long as you know where it is, you document where it is and your settings are correct in /usr/local/etc/squid/squid.conf. By default squid will use /var/squid. I always change it on install. > When running the command squid -z to initialize the cache the cache > directory must be there otherwise the command won't work. > > How should I set the permissions on /usr/local/squid and the directories > below? I use 755, squid:squid. > I could not find any advise in the Handbook. I'll be happy to help making a > squid chapter. I'm writing some internal documentation on deploying pf + squid 2.7.x + SNMP on FreeBSD 8.2 routers/firewalls with cacti monitoring, I'll contribute what I can. I doubt we'll see a section on squid as it's really a niche area but it's always good to have something on the list so folks doing a search can find something useful. If it's going to be a few days before you get into the heavy lifting I'll try to send something directly or maybe a link to this list this weekend. You said you had notes from doing a 2.x installation, are you installing 3.x? . I'm sticking with 2.7.STABLE9 for storeurl support in some places and considering 3.x in others. 3.2 introduced SMP support but you can achieve pseudo-SMP support by running multiple instances on the same machine...just remember each instance has its own RAM and disk cache, which sort of kills the performance. kmw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 15:25:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D93106564A for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:25:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vfemail.net) Received: from vfemail.net (dotsevenfive.vfemail.net [69.11.239.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025838FC0A for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:25:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31859 invoked by uid 89); 9 Mar 2011 15:24:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO freequeue.vfemail.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Mar 2011 15:24:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 22552 invoked by uid 89); 9 Mar 2011 15:02:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www-52-2.vfemail.net) (vfemail@172.16.100.52) by FreeQueue with SMTP; 9 Mar 2011 15:02:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 75267 invoked by uid 89); 9 Mar 2011 15:02:37 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 75185, pid: 75264, t: 0.2242s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO Bacchus.vfemail.net) (cGV0ZXJAdmZlbWFpbC5uZXQ=@67.101.12.44) by 172.16.100.52 with ESMTPA; 9 Mar 2011 15:02:37 -0000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:57:03 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: peter@vfemail.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <20110309152546.54D93106564A@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:31:15 +0000 Subject: Nonsensical Web Log Entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:25:47 -0000 I was looking at my Web log this morning, and a bunch of nonsensical entries like these caught my attention: 124.226.181.80 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:49:58 -0500] "GET http://www.yahoo.com/ HTTP/1.0" 301 294 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" 123.10.97.102 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:01 -0500] "GET http://makeabank.com/faq.cgi HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" 115.225.166.2 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:04 -0500] "GET http://join1.winhundred.com/affiliate/link.php?ref=35840&productid=7178 HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "http://www.wingclips.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" 114.97.197.184 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:15 -0500] "GET http://www.tosunmail.com/proxyheader.php HTTP/1.0" 301 313 "http://www.cashsoldier.com/VerifyerLevel.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" Is my FreeBSD box serving as some kind of Web proxy? ------------------------------------------------- This message sent via VFEmail.net http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 Lifetime accounts! 15GB disk! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 17:01:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A3E1065670 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:01:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf13.insightbb.com (mxsf13.insightbb.com [74.128.0.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73348FC15 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:01:44 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,291,1297054800"; d="scan'208";a="336926003" Received: from unknown (HELO asav03.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf13.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 09 Mar 2011 11:32:52 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvJTANE6d01KhIsFPGdsb2JhbACIdpALjWwMAQEBATUww0+FZQSFIg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,291,1297054800"; d="scan'208";a="210677927" Received: from 74-132-139-5.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.132.139.5]) by asavout03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 09 Mar 2011 11:32:37 -0500 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:32:31 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201103091132.32080.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Subject: HP Pavilion zd8000 Xorg anomaly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:01:45 -0000 My system had crashed and it caused a directory to los it's dot and dot-dot entries. This was a directory that was used for iso-codes and everytie I started X, it would hang. So I didn't want to format the drive, too extreme. So I de-installed all my ports to re-install. After I got the ports un-installed, I was able to fix the filesystem problem with fsck. I tried beforehand,but it was way too many fsck issues. Anyway, I have somehow LOST my xorg.conf that WORKED. It was previously generated by xorg -configure. That doesn't work anymore. I am only able to us the vesa driver now. So I'm stuck with 1024x768, instead of 1440x900. I believe this was caused by the recent xorg update. I had been stable with X for YEARS. -- System Name: laptop2.StevenFriedrich.org Window Manager(s): kde4-4.5.5_1 X Window System: xorg-7.5.1 X.Org X Server 1.7.7 OS version: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE i386 (5.2 MB kernel) Platform: HP pavilion zd8000 (zd8215us) CPU: 2.80GHz Intel Pentium 4 (HTT) with 2 GB memory FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2009061500/i386) Installed devices: pcm0: (play/rec) default From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 17:02:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7730F106567F for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DAD8FC1B for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:02:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi17 with SMTP id 17so406755wwi.1 for ; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:02:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KusM2NWxlXZtUluRqmPrCkOnR259W+Q0YxHQH/iyp7Y=; b=iKLZXr89j/D7XNQaiaxeWzkWAE5azHsKtjh5FSl6de+0w9h7bvbTj2d27epT55HV+D dXHLgJRAAPwTvOedANPzuqToNhW+A2ao2k6/U36i+RgGnZ6Eao0WT0063Ly65nHcn7uW O1phOKFD9STUoS8QygO39h4ECGU9gVZYxQia8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Jxm8qWBQWQjFPd/HsF7k/D1YSagivfP90THW3vpqiJ1p9NDSW+tmO7GNJmqF7jSTob eKMpMyYwmuO7dvZLERQUkSq5fpvAe8xRi5akCcez/NbOONQ1cKh8KI54QdFhu1OGHME9 nOrkf7Hs4a5UjnpiPkJHJWiU46ZXuZWdYJhzc= Received: by 10.227.130.96 with SMTP id r32mr5995381wbs.67.1299690153526; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:02:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bd8sm1621859wbb.1.2011.03.09.09.02.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:02:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:02:21 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110309170221.6e2595a1@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4D779C5F.3000301@eskk.nu> References: <4D779C5F.3000301@eskk.nu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Installing squid, where should the directories be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:02:35 -0000 On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:27:27 +0100 Leslie Jensen wrote: > Hello list. > > I'm installing squid on a new 8.2-RELEASE machine. > ... > When Googling this problem I see both the use of /var/squid and > /usr/local/squid. >... > I find what I consider conflicting information, often it's quite > dated. > > I could not find any advise in the Handbook. I'll be happy to help > making a squid chapter. It's covered in UPDATING. If you search for squid it's the first entry. The change was to bring squid more in line with hier(7), at the expense of putting the default cache on a partition that's typically undersized. If you want the cache on a separate partition, and you have no good reason to put the logs on it, you might as well mount it in line with hier. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 17:06:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069AD1065673 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:06:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkearney@nvita.org) Received: from squirrelserver.nvita.org (nvita.org [173.10.132.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91298FC14 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:06:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org ([192.168.0.3]) by SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org ([192.168.0.3]) with mapi; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 12:16:35 -0500 From: "Michael J. Kearney" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 12:16:34 -0500 Thread-Topic: Nonsensical Web Log Entries Thread-Index: AcveeNwoHGoo2tzuRHuD9Dw1m9dknQABOHCw Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Nonsensical Web Log Entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:06:22 -0000 Idk i have similar entries. Its not a proxy . Remember lot's wife. .. lol "peter@vfemail.net" wrote: I was looking at my Web log this morning, and a bunch of nonsensical entrie= s like these caught my attention: 124.226.181.80 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:49:58 -0500] "GET http://www.yahoo.com/ = HTTP/1.0" 301 294 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; S= V1)" 123.10.97.102 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:01 -0500] "GET http://makeabank.com/fa= q.cgi HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT= 5.1; SV1)" 115.225.166.2 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:04 -0500] "GET http://join1.winhundred= .com/affiliate/link.php?ref=3D35840&productid=3D7178 HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "ht= tp://www.wingclips.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1= ; SV1)" 114.97.197.184 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:15 -0500] "GET http://www.tosunmail.c= om/proxyheader.php HTTP/1.0" 301 313 "http://www.cashsoldier.com/VerifyerLe= vel.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" Is my FreeBSD box serving as some kind of Web proxy? ------------------------------------------------- This message sent via VFEmail.net http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 Lifetime accounts! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 17:17:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D14B106566C for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:17:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43038FC0C for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm19 with SMTP id 19so794591fxm.13 for ; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:17:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=mHYavy+gVYbjX3ok0h8RrzqocJj3JLCP2EIc0sbFFhQ=; b=a942OjnPPKGu64O6s+qCLbaAI/64bCRIXB6HC1vrjUFI9urygaPy46n4MIB4rFeTaH qERotnOz5YaD4m8zL+Zd5Sn/inUD8o4238VwvgifW6eivLiqg/RbwRrMQf5PNFhMtk/a bI+4lGZHt4zgb86z48fxHD8dhekiJp9kmLA0Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=kz3HLKF1TXk1FqKKY26Wy6kwouMiaSvWvkZ7bBvY3yx5eO+q7Y5xWBU83NRPo3k7aJ NNKXYSQ20VWX1FA9jy6lOOL57H9r7N6k7zJKrFItU64foa1htxMge8kRje8xk0lVLMUS 8OdkiFzJKtKM/uI9iZkX+DLwB2A+b4L6dYt/w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.58.72 with SMTP id f8mr3762995fah.137.1299691031008; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:17:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.59.7 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 09:17:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201103091132.32080.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> References: <201103091132.32080.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:17:10 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Steven Friedrich Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP Pavilion zd8000 Xorg anomaly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:17:20 -0000 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Steven Friedrich wrote: > My system had crashed and it caused a directory to los it's dot and dot-dot > entries. This was a directory that was used for iso-codes and everytie I > started X, it would hang. > > So I didn't want to format the drive, too extreme. So I de-installed all > my > ports to re-install. After I got the ports un-installed, I was able to fix > the filesystem problem with fsck. I tried beforehand,but it was way too > many > fsck issues. > > > Anyway, I have somehow LOST my xorg.conf that WORKED. > > It was previously generated by xorg -configure. > You didn't list your video card. Most of the time, you don't need an xorg.conf anymore, just insure the proper drivers are installed e.g. video card and X should autodetect and use highest available settings. Also sometimes on a bad crash multiple fsck's are required to get UFS back in a consistent state. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 17:22:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25331065673 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:22:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vfemail.net) Received: from vfemail.net (dotsevenfive.vfemail.net [69.11.239.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5410E8FC14 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:22:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 61484 invoked by uid 89); 9 Mar 2011 17:22:24 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO freequeue.vfemail.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Mar 2011 17:22:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 61456 invoked by uid 89); 9 Mar 2011 17:22:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www-52-2.vfemail.net) (vfemail@172.16.100.52) by FreeQueue with SMTP; 9 Mar 2011 17:22:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 92710 invoked by uid 89); 9 Mar 2011 17:22:11 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 92699, pid: 92707, t: 0.1332s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO Bacchus.vfemail.net) (cGV0ZXJAdmZlbWFpbC5uZXQ=@67.101.12.44) by 172.16.100.52 with ESMTPA; 9 Mar 2011 17:22:11 -0000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 12:21:42 -0500 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: peter@vfemail.net In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <20110309172228.A25331065673@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Nonsensical Web Log Entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:22:28 -0000 My wife will turn into a pillar of salt if she looks at my Web logs? :) So this is normal behavior? The latest entry is: 188.134.62.20 - - [09/Mar/2011:12:15:04 -0500] "GET http://images.google.com/ HTTP/1.1" 200 13134 "-" "-" This entry says that my Web server handed the person at IP address 188.134.62.20 13,134 bytes of something, correct? What was served? I don't have any Web pages on my Web site with Google's name in it. ------- At 12:16 PM 3/9/2011, Michael J. Kearney wrote: >Idk i have similar entries. Its not a proxy . Remember lot's wife. .. lol > >"peter@vfemail.net" wrote: > > >I was looking at my Web log this morning, and a bunch of nonsensical entries like these caught my attention: > >124.226.181.80 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:49:58 -0500] "GET http://www.yahoo.com/ HTTP/1.0" 301 294 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >123.10.97.102 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:01 -0500] "GET http://makeabank.com/faq.cgi HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >115.225.166.2 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:04 -0500] "GET http://join1.winhundred.com/affiliate/link.php?ref=35840&productid=7178 HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "http://www.wingclips.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >114.97.197.184 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:15 -0500] "GET http://www.tosunmail.com/proxyheader.php HTTP/1.0" 301 313 "http://www.cashsoldier.com/VerifyerLevel.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" > >Is my FreeBSD box serving as some kind of Web proxy? > > > > >------------------------------------------------- >This message sent via VFEmail.net >http://www.vfemail.net >$14.95 Lifetime accounts! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ------------------------------------------------- This message sent via VFEmail.net http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 Lifetime accounts! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 18:25:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B391065678 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056E08FC0C for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:25:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263F65E1E8; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:25:23 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.41 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.41 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.190, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id qouzZLUYKB+Y; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:25:20 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752D85E1BC; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:25:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D77C646.7060607@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 19:26:14 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110307 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <4D779C5F.3000301@eskk.nu> <20110309170221.6e2595a1@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20110309170221.6e2595a1@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing squid, where should the directories be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:25:36 -0000 On 2011-03-09 18:02, RW wrote: > On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:27:27 +0100 > Leslie Jensen wrote: > >> Hello list. >> >> I'm installing squid on a new 8.2-RELEASE machine. >> ... >> When Googling this problem I see both the use of /var/squid and >> /usr/local/squid. >> ... >> I find what I consider conflicting information, often it's quite >> dated. >> >> I could not find any advise in the Handbook. I'll be happy to help >> making a squid chapter. > > It's covered in UPDATING. If you search for squid it's the first > entry. The change was to bring squid more in line with hier(7), at the > expense of putting the default cache on a partition that's typically > undersized. > > If you want the cache on a separate partition, and you have no > good reason to put the logs on it, you might as well mount it in line > with hier. Thanks! I've found it. Well, now when all is installed and configured I think I'll stick with /usr/local/squid. In the future I'll follow the instructions from UPDATING. Would you recommend that I still use a separate partition for /var/squid even if it's on a single drive? /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 18:30:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6122C1065670 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D0A8FC17 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:30:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A3D5E29E; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:30:40 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.411 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.411 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.189, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ovHLRiwzpJW7; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:30:37 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from bljbsd01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D64F5E05A; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:30:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D77C784.1060809@eskk.nu> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 19:31:32 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110307 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D779C5F.3000301@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Kevin Wilcox Subject: Re: Installing squid, where should the directories be? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:30:53 -0000 On 2011-03-09 17:06, Kevin Wilcox wrote: > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:27, Leslie Jensen wrote: > >> I'm installing squid on a new 8.2-RELEASE machine. > > Me too. > >> I have /usr/local/squid as default directory and has made a separate mount >> point. > > Same here. As a general rule I like to give squid its own hard drive, > or its own RAID. Giving it a separate partition on a single drive is > useful if you're concerned about filling the disk but that *should* be > controlled by the squid configuration file. Still, it's a good idea. > >> When it comes to the cache and the logs directory I can see that the squid >> installation has created the /var/squid/cache directory. > > I've always seen /var/squid as being very "Linux-centric". > > /usr/local/squid or /usr/local/var/squid makes more sense to me. > >> When Googling this problem I see both the use of /var/squid and >> /usr/local/squid. > >> Where should it be? > > Yep, ultimately it doesn't matter as long as you know where it is, you > document where it is and your settings are correct in > /usr/local/etc/squid/squid.conf. > > By default squid will use /var/squid. I always change it on install. > >> When running the command squid -z to initialize the cache the cache >> directory must be there otherwise the command won't work. >> >> How should I set the permissions on /usr/local/squid and the directories >> below? > > I use 755, squid:squid. > >> I could not find any advise in the Handbook. I'll be happy to help making a >> squid chapter. > > I'm writing some internal documentation on deploying pf + squid 2.7.x > + SNMP on FreeBSD 8.2 routers/firewalls with cacti monitoring, I'll > contribute what I can. I doubt we'll see a section on squid as it's > really a niche area but it's always good to have something on the list > so folks doing a search can find something useful. If it's going to be > a few days before you get into the heavy lifting I'll try to send > something directly or maybe a link to this list this weekend. > > You said you had notes from doing a 2.x installation, are you > installing 3.x? . I'm sticking with 2.7.STABLE9 for storeurl support > in some places and considering 3.x in others. 3.2 introduced SMP > support but you can achieve pseudo-SMP support by running multiple > instances on the same machine...just remember each instance has its > own RAM and disk cache, which sort of kills the performance. > > kmw Thanks Kevin. I'm ok with the configuration. My new install is version 3.1 and I'll keep /usr/local/squid for now to avoid the need for reinstalling and to make /var/squid big enough and as a separate partiton. /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 18:40:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D31106564A for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:40:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf00.insightbb.com (mxsf00.insightbb.com [74.128.0.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100048FC0A for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:40:45 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,291,1297054800"; d="scan'208";a="1041957832" Received: from unknown (HELO asav03.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf00.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 09 Mar 2011 13:40:44 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvJTABJYd01KhIsFO2dsb2JhbACIdpANjWwMAQEBATUww3aFZQSFIg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,291,1297054800"; d="scan'208";a="210700045" Received: from 74-132-139-5.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.132.139.5]) by asavout03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 09 Mar 2011 13:40:44 -0500 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:40:38 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) References: <201103091132.32080.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201103091340.38984.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Subject: Re: HP Pavilion zd8000 Xorg anomaly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:40:46 -0000 On Wednesday 09 March 2011 12:17:10 pm Adam Vande More wrote: > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > My system had crashed and it caused a directory to los it's dot and > > dot-dot entries. This was a directory that was used for iso-codes and > > everytie I started X, it would hang. > > > > So I didn't want to format the drive, too extreme. So I de-installed all > > my > > ports to re-install. After I got the ports un-installed, I was able to > > fix the filesystem problem with fsck. I tried beforehand,but it was way > > too many > > fsck issues. > > > > > > Anyway, I have somehow LOST my xorg.conf that WORKED. > > > > It was previously generated by xorg -configure. > > You didn't list your video card. It's a laptop.No card. ATI Technologies Inc M24 1P [Radeon Mobility X600] rev 0, > > Most of the time, you don't need an xorg.conf anymore, just insure the > proper drivers are installed e.g. video card and X should autodetect and > use highest available settings. That's what 'm saying. It USED to work. NOW it doesn't. > > Also sometimes on a bad crash multiple fsck's are required to get UFS back > in a consistent state. -- System Name: laptop2.StevenFriedrich.org Window Manager(s): kde4-4.5.5_1 X Window System: xorg-7.5.1 X.Org X Server 1.7.7 OS version: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE i386 (5.2 MB kernel) Platform: HP pavilion zd8000 (zd8215us) CPU: 2.80GHz Intel Pentium 4 (HTT) with 2 GB memory FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2009061500/i386) Installed devices: pcm0: (play/rec) default From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 18:47:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B7A106566C for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:47:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout021.mac.com (asmtpout021.mac.com [17.148.16.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379668FC13 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:47:30 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp021.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTPSA id <0LHT0076506SH200@asmtp021.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 10:47:17 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-09_07:2011-03-09, 2011-03-09, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103090119 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <201103091132.32080.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 10:47:15 -0800 Message-id: <93401EB7-F272-479E-8401-C67A215F54C2@mac.com> References: <201103091132.32080.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> To: Steven Friedrich X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP Pavilion zd8000 Xorg anomaly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:47:31 -0000 On Mar 9, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Steven Friedrich wrote: > Anyway, I have somehow LOST my xorg.conf that WORKED. Regrettable. Either take backups of everything you actually care about before you experience data loss-- in which case you don't have a problem, since you can easily recover your data-- or accept that you are going to be sad when something happens and you have no way of getting it back. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 19:30:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA286106564A for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vfemail.net) Received: from vfemail.net (dotsevenfive.vfemail.net [69.11.239.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39838FC0A for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 93201 invoked by uid 89); 9 Mar 2011 19:30:44 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO freequeue.vfemail.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Mar 2011 19:30:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 93153 invoked by uid 89); 9 Mar 2011 19:30:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www-51-2.vfemail.net) (vfemail@172.16.100.51) by FreeQueue with SMTP; 9 Mar 2011 19:30:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 21581 invoked by uid 89); 9 Mar 2011 19:30:32 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 21572, pid: 21577, t: 0.1480s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO Bacchus.vfemail.net) (cGV0ZXJAdmZlbWFpbC5uZXQ=@67.101.12.44) by 172.16.100.51 with ESMTPA; 9 Mar 2011 19:30:32 -0000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 14:30:08 -0500 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: peter@vfemail.net In-Reply-To: References: <20110309172228.A25331065673@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <20110309193049.EA286106564A@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Nonsensical Web Log Entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 19:30:50 -0000 At 02:23 PM 3/9/2011, Bryan H. wrote: >On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:21 AM, wrote: >> >> My wife will turn into a pillar of salt if she looks at my Web logs? :) >> >> So this is normal behavior? >> >> The latest entry is: >> >> 188.134.62.20 - - [09/Mar/2011:12:15:04 -0500] "GET http://images.google.com/ HTTP/1.1" 200 13134 "-" "-" >> >> This entry says that my Web server handed the person at IP address 188.134.62.20 13,134 bytes of something, correct? What was served? I don't have any Web pages on my Web site with Google's name in it. >> >> ------- >> >> At 12:16 PM 3/9/2011, Michael J. Kearney wrote: >>>Idk i have similar entries. Its not a proxy . Remember lot's wife. .. lol >>> >>>"peter@vfemail.net" wrote: >>> >>> >>>I was looking at my Web log this morning, and a bunch of nonsensical entries like these caught my attention: >>> >>>124.226.181.80 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:49:58 -0500] "GET http://www.yahoo.com/ HTTP/1.0" 301 294 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >>>123.10.97.102 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:01 -0500] "GET http://makeabank.com/faq.cgi HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >>>115.225.166.2 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:04 -0500] "GET http://join1.winhundred.com/affiliate/link.php?ref=35840&productid=7178 HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "http://www.wingclips.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >>>114.97.197.184 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:15 -0500] "GET http://www.tosunmail.com/proxyheader.php HTTP/1.0" 301 313 "http://www.cashsoldier.com/VerifyerLevel.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >>> >>>Is my FreeBSD box serving as some kind of Web proxy? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------- >>>This message sent via VFEmail.net >>>http://www.vfemail.net >>>$14.95 Lifetime accounts! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>_______________________________________________ >>>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------- >> This message sent via VFEmail.net >> http://www.vfemail.net >> $14.95 Lifetime accounts! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > >Probably a standard 404 "Not Found" response, if I were to guess. Some of these odd requests generate 404 page-not-found errors, some generate 301 redirect messages, but the bizarre result is a 200 response with the indication that real data is being distributed. ------------------------------------------------- This message sent via VFEmail.net http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 Lifetime accounts! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 19:53:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0902106564A for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:53:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@galador.org) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638C68FC0C for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:53:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so988557iyj.13 for ; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 11:53:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=galador.org; s=gally; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mYN0ebpt4S8S50mr2vmPpQrR3MnCbp61PbSSxccbXXE=; b=MUEYR/o2z/A9d4Gme3Het/WOGg7Nw1kM+p0LDOcadjfGgn/qyxtOOAM4LTS5jlPdbj nTyjilEwD8+K+K/u9XspMv8UKqhCM2vBEuj05x4iPnXOBnSW9YJMraf3gyIuGCkMufhL bH0g0xgwxKxu1dfo4PhXF/UeUXZuJKoGsm3TA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=galador.org; s=gally; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ahpBBMgV9frOk9N3EgNh5tUuY5QrQnRXrYbVAYV2a/AEpoXESwlSBaz/RxCIlpuSzj Crx7kg0/J/VzJz4rCL8UiqI3spDo6FI1/6U/tYeH8v/Hh7GdJgQWMOb4XsC1jr4LcqHF 5g0wwIWbhqK+O18u6kVD0cwNCZQorHbcRlC3E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.133.72 with SMTP id g8mr9026048ict.80.1299698597949; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 11:23:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.162.72 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 11:23:17 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [159.204.59.22] In-Reply-To: <20110309172228.A25331065673@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20110309172228.A25331065673@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:23:17 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Bryan H." To: peter@vfemail.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Nonsensical Web Log Entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 19:53:08 -0000 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:21 AM, wrote: > > My wife will turn into a pillar of salt if she looks at my Web logs? =A0:= ) > > So this is normal behavior? > > The latest entry is: > > =A0 =A0 =A0188.134.62.20 - - [09/Mar/2011:12:15:04 -0500] "GET http://ima= ges.google.com/ HTTP/1.1" 200 13134 "-" "-" > > This entry says that my Web server handed the person at IP address 188.13= 4.62.20 13,134 bytes of something, correct? =A0What was served? =A0I don't = have any Web pages on my Web site with Google's name in it. > > ------- > > At 12:16 PM 3/9/2011, Michael =A0J. Kearney wrote: >>Idk i have similar entries. Its not a proxy . =A0Remember lot's wife. .. = lol >> >>"peter@vfemail.net" wrote: >> >> >>I was looking at my Web log this morning, and a bunch of nonsensical entr= ies like these caught my attention: >> >>124.226.181.80 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:49:58 -0500] "GET http://www.yahoo.com= / HTTP/1.0" 301 294 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1;= SV1)" >>123.10.97.102 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:01 -0500] "GET http://makeabank.com/= faq.cgi HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows = NT 5.1; SV1)" >>115.225.166.2 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:04 -0500] "GET http://join1.winhundr= ed.com/affiliate/link.php?ref=3D35840&productid=3D7178 HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "= http://www.wingclips.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5= .1; SV1)" >>114.97.197.184 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:15 -0500] "GET http://www.tosunmail= .com/proxyheader.php HTTP/1.0" 301 313 "http://www.cashsoldier.com/Verifyer= Level.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >> >>Is my FreeBSD box serving as some kind of Web proxy? >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------- >>This message sent via VFEmail.net >>http://www.vfemail.net >>$14.95 Lifetime accounts! =A015GB disk! =A0No bandwidth quotas! >> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > > > ------------------------------------------------- > This message sent via VFEmail.net > http://www.vfemail.net > $14.95 Lifetime accounts! =A015GB disk! =A0No bandwidth quotas! > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > Probably a standard 404 "Not Found" response, if I were to guess. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 19:57:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F66B106564A for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:57:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14ED88FC19 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:57:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p29K664k013470; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:06:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:06:06 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201103092006.p29K664k013470@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, peter@vfemail.net In-Reply-To: <20110309152546.54D93106564A@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 20:01:59 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: Nonsensical Web Log Entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 19:57:26 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 10:40:23 2011 > Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:57:03 -0500 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > From: peter@vfemail.net > Subject: Nonsensical Web Log Entries > > > I was looking at my Web log this morning, and a bunch of nonsensical > entries like these caught my attention: > > 124.226.181.80 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:49:58 -0500] "GET http://www.yahoo.com/ HTTP/1.0" 301 294 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; > MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" > 123.10.97.102 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:01 -0500] "GET http://makeabank.com/faq.cgi HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" > 115.225.166.2 - > - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:04 -0500] "GET http://join1.winhundred.com/affiliate/link.php?ref=35840&productid=7178 HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "http://www.wingclips.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; > MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" > 114.97.197.184 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:15 -0500] "GET http://www.tosunmail.com/proxyheader.php HTTP/1.0" 301 313 "http://www.cashsoldier.com/VerifyerLevel.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" > > Is my FreeBSD box serving as some kind of Web proxy? Your box is _not_ doing the proxying. that's why it's signalling errors for those requests. The perpetrators are _hoping_ you are running a misconfigured proxying front- end. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 20:03:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5751065672 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 20:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vfemail.net) Received: from vfemail.net (dotsevenfive.vfemail.net [69.11.239.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D84B8FC0C for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 20:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1514 invoked by uid 89); 9 Mar 2011 20:03:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO freequeue.vfemail.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Mar 2011 20:03:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 1494 invoked by uid 89); 9 Mar 2011 20:03:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www-52-2.vfemail.net) (vfemail@172.16.100.52) by FreeQueue with SMTP; 9 Mar 2011 20:03:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 22568 invoked by uid 89); 9 Mar 2011 20:03:17 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 22499, pid: 22565, t: 0.1873s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO Bacchus.vfemail.net) (cGV0ZXJAdmZlbWFpbC5uZXQ=@67.101.12.44) by 172.16.100.52 with ESMTPA; 9 Mar 2011 20:03:17 -0000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:02:57 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: peter@vfemail.net In-Reply-To: <201103092006.p29K664k013470@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <20110309152546.54D93106564A@hub.freebsd.org> <201103092006.p29K664k013470@mail.r-bonomi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <20110309200335.EA5751065672@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 20:57:06 +0000 Subject: Re: Nonsensical Web Log Entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 20:03:36 -0000 At 03:06 PM 3/9/2011, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 10:40:23 2011 >> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:57:03 -0500 >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> From: peter@vfemail.net >> Subject: Nonsensical Web Log Entries >> >> >> I was looking at my Web log this morning, and a bunch of nonsensical >> entries like these caught my attention: >> >> 124.226.181.80 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:49:58 -0500] "GET http://www.yahoo.com/ HTTP/1.0" 301 294 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; > MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >> 123.10.97.102 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:01 -0500] "GET http://makeabank.com/faq.cgi HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >> 115.225.166.2 - > - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:04 -0500] "GET http://join1.winhundred.com/affiliate/link.php?ref=35840&productid=7178 HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "http://www.wingclips.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; > MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >> 114.97.197.184 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:15 -0500] "GET http://www.tosunmail.com/proxyheader.php HTTP/1.0" 301 313 "http://www.cashsoldier.com/VerifyerLevel.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >> >> Is my FreeBSD box serving as some kind of Web proxy? > >Your box is _not_ doing the proxying. that's why it's signalling errors >for those requests. > >The perpetrators are _hoping_ you are running a misconfigured proxying front- >end. Does this entry change your conclusion: 188.134.62.20 - - [09/Mar/2011:12:15:04 -0500] "GET http://images.google.com/ HTTP/1.1" 200 13134 "-" "-" ------------------------------------------------- This message sent via VFEmail.net http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 Lifetime accounts! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 20:41:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F37106566B for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 20:41:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vfemail.net) Received: from vfemail.net (dotsevenfive.vfemail.net [69.11.239.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9FF8FC13 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 20:41:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10463 invoked by uid 89); 9 Mar 2011 20:40:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO freequeue.vfemail.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Mar 2011 20:40:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 10417 invoked by uid 89); 9 Mar 2011 20:40:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www-52-2.vfemail.net) (vfemail@172.16.100.52) by FreeQueue with SMTP; 9 Mar 2011 20:40:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 48517 invoked by uid 89); 9 Mar 2011 20:40:46 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 48440, pid: 48513, t: 0.1313s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO Bacchus.vfemail.net) (cGV0ZXJAdmZlbWFpbC5uZXQ=@67.101.12.44) by 172.16.100.52 with ESMTPA; 9 Mar 2011 20:40:46 -0000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:40:05 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: peter@vfemail.net In-Reply-To: <7.1.0.9.2.20110309150206.1ed21c20@vfemail.net> References: <20110309152546.54D93106564A@hub.freebsd.org> <201103092006.p29K664k013470@mail.r-bonomi.com> <7.1.0.9.2.20110309150206.1ed21c20@vfemail.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <20110309204107.49F37106566B@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 21:07:28 +0000 Subject: Re: Nonsensical Web Log Entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 20:41:07 -0000 At 03:02 PM 3/9/2011, peter@vfemail.net wrote: >At 03:06 PM 3/9/2011, Robert Bonomi wrote: >>> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 10:40:23 2011 >>> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:57:03 -0500 >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> From: peter@vfemail.net >>> Subject: Nonsensical Web Log Entries >>> >>> >>> I was looking at my Web log this morning, and a bunch of nonsensical >>> entries like these caught my attention: >>> >>> 124.226.181.80 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:49:58 -0500] "GET http://www.yahoo.com/ HTTP/1.0" 301 294 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; > MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >>> 123.10.97.102 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:01 -0500] "GET http://makeabank.com/faq.cgi HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >>> 115.225.166.2 - > - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:04 -0500] "GET http://join1.winhundred.com/affiliate/link.php?ref=35840&productid=7178 HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "http://www.wingclips.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; > MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >>> 114.97.197.184 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:15 -0500] "GET http://www.tosunmail.com/proxyheader.php HTTP/1.0" 301 313 "http://www.cashsoldier.com/VerifyerLevel.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >>> >>> Is my FreeBSD box serving as some kind of Web proxy? >> >>Your box is _not_ doing the proxying. that's why it's signalling errors >>for those requests. >> >>The perpetrators are _hoping_ you are running a misconfigured proxying front- >>end. > >Does this entry change your conclusion: > > 188.134.62.20 - - [09/Mar/2011:12:15:04 -0500] "GET http://images.google.com/ HTTP/1.1" 200 13134 "-" "-" > Here's another entry that's too bizarre for words: 218.172.209.123 - - [09/Mar/2011:15:38:29 -0500] "\x16\x03\x01" 200 13107 "-" "-" ------------------------------------------------- This message sent via VFEmail.net http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 Lifetime accounts! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 21:42:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8EF106566B for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 21:42:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.ross@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 32AC18FC0A for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 21:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Mar 2011 21:15:26 -0000 Received: from dslb-178-003-106-063.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO michael-think) [178.3.106.63] by mail.gmx.net (mp041) with SMTP; 09 Mar 2011 22:15:26 +0100 X-Authenticated: #11429267 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/AJD8qJSnArFLny6iQJ3oPcraDfrKqVPpfjMug4k FrSRqEXTn+5HZV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, peter@vfemail.net References: <20110309152546.54D93106564A@hub.freebsd.org> <201103092006.p29K664k013470@mail.r-bonomi.com> <7.1.0.9.2.20110309150206.1ed21c20@vfemail.net> <20110309204107.49F37106566B@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 22:15:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20110309204107.49F37106566B@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.01 (Win32) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: Re: Nonsensical Web Log Entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 21:42:08 -0000 Am 09.03.2011, 21:40 Uhr, schrieb : >> >> Does this entry change your conclusion: >> >> 188.134.62.20 - - [09/Mar/2011:12:15:04 -0500] "GET >> http://images.google.com/ HTTP/1.1" 200 13134 "-" "-" >> If I do: %telnet localhost 80 and enter: GET / HTTP/1.1 Host: images.google.com I get this in my logfile: 127.0.0.1 images.google.com - [09/Mar/2011:22:06:48 +0100] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 2257 "-" "-" My vhost-Setup serves the default host in the requested host is unknown, thus 200 OK. > > Here's another entry that's too bizarre for words: > > 218.172.209.123 - - [09/Mar/2011:15:38:29 -0500] "\x16\x03\x01" 200 > 13107 "-" "-" > "Talking ssl to a non-ssl vhost". Google that one. Regards, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 22:00:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23141065677 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB278FC1C for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:00:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so1104352wyf.13 for ; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 14:00:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=2lbAsssvTqxysR0TNw0k0jBXqCtGLIqRgcDVDAa9TxU=; b=SUDEKHKPqjUxPAHmez7Jb/ZkeS4Rb1KXRgo2B9Sehy7sfO/a24fgTJWwCvVwkhtytt FF0kHJIITiopWE8Dnel1fTlidXNMiHlwoa0F41AWXGqW29rW9dYBJFrHUpYCm5v+1zBM UKAm5KrwsbWkBilFfh2t5bDmWb+ra08hpEhgQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Iq52H+LpffKGicMUBV8bG7n2bu4PdLrk5hmMYXgLyldi0r+y1+jzLdh2C2knDz8YRU uULTUFSD/PZ4xQ6dFF4wuXrAn4KFkJ8kia9A7TRiodySE3fyoczaPho06axlz62mT8XU 00SB3WiF+mADYlXWCNHY0+O6gPG61F9u9AS1w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.57.210 with SMTP id d18mr6198391wbh.82.1299708037263; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 14:00:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.30.97 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:00:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:00:37 -0800 Message-ID: From: Nerius Landys To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 22:00:39 -0000 This is not a technical question. Basically I have some cash sitting around. I'm thinking of investing part of it with a company that I believe in. Apple came to mind. You could say that I'd like to judge Apple's moral character before investing money with them. Does anyone know how Apple reciprocates to FreeBSD? After all a lot of MacOSX is borrowed from FreeBSD. I am not seeing Apple's name on this page: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml . Are there other ways in which Apple might be reciprocating? - Nerius From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 22:11:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C02106564A for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:11:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D241C8FC0A for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:11:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-24-22-230-24.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([24.22.230.24] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PxRbI-0006Ta-6b for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 14:11:25 -0800 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 09 Mar 2011 14:11:24 -0800 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:11:24 -0800 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110309221124.GB2312@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 22:11:30 -0000 --ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Nerius Landys on Wednesday, 09 March 2011: > This is not a technical question. >=20 > Basically I have some cash sitting around. I'm thinking of investing > part of it with a company that I believe in. Apple came to mind. You > could say that I'd like to judge Apple's moral character before > investing money with them. Does anyone know how Apple reciprocates to > FreeBSD? After all a lot of MacOSX is borrowed from FreeBSD. I am > not seeing Apple's name on this page: > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml . Are there > other ways in which Apple might be reciprocating? >=20 > - Nerius > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" Better yet, just send the money to the FreeBSD Foundation. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://chipsquips.com | http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com --ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNd/sMAAoJEIpckszW26+Rc8UH+gLZW/BCC843Ip3NRQU2yYCr hhSqgNAn9Lu55twDD5RdoY/VlB9HyCAsYW+Os/2TJhT9k6AjmUXANTqfkad4g6DN O/P+cy+Yw69TI5PNitKPi2M7vF4ppZUkVpZGIRUSAMdkfNRios4xk1O5+bceS+aH yUI7scvE6EaOcx5NhXAFgOn6CJ7DrPG41N91kNs6DnJWkmTE4Nniv9IaNNVLZzJ6 MfT96W3gEUyHolb7nWtb7ME4MQHAp34Vz09nujlPWSLKbMwAyTBbCMPJrERMbthA 83r1fTrggkaBPwrpe+t19gwPmqwiZHQGPMgntzO71kBVl/A1/Cb+iSwPQCpDNH4= =FoWB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 22:36:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BA11065676 for ; 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Wed, 09 Mar 2011 14:14:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.129.68 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 14:14:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110309221124.GB2312@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <20110309221124.GB2312@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 23:14:28 +0100 Message-ID: From: Sander Remie To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 22:40:49 -0000 The core of apple's os is built on top of darwin which is composed of BSD and others http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system) But everything you see in apple's os (that smooth UI) is not BSD, only the underlying core is. Better do some research of your own. On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Nerius Landys on Wednesday, 09 March 2011: > > This is not a technical question. > > > > Basically I have some cash sitting around. I'm thinking of investing > > part of it with a company that I believe in. Apple came to mind. You > > could say that I'd like to judge Apple's moral character before > > investing money with them. Does anyone know how Apple reciprocates to > > FreeBSD? After all a lot of MacOSX is borrowed from FreeBSD. I am > > not seeing Apple's name on this page: > > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml . Are there > > other ways in which Apple might be reciprocating? > > > > - Nerius > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Better yet, just send the money to the FreeBSD Foundation. > > -- > Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F > http://chipsquips.com | http://camdensoftware.com | > http://chipstips.com > -- See my Google profile here From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 22:47:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821FE106564A for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:47:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkearney@nvita.org) Received: from squirrelserver.nvita.org (nvita.org [173.10.132.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350578FC0A for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org ([192.168.0.3]) by SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org ([192.168.0.3]) with mapi; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:57:44 -0500 From: "Michael J. Kearney" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:57:36 -0500 Thread-Topic: Nonsensical Web Log Entries Thread-Index: Acven3mdco3UgDuOR1WOxiUlA5WpIAACt4rg Message-ID: <0A2D7DF01CEBB144ACA1A79F588BD239044CE0AE65B4@SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org> References: <20110309152546.54D93106564A@hub.freebsd.org> <201103092006.p29K664k013470@mail.r-bonomi.com> <7.1.0.9.2.20110309150206.1ed21c20@vfemail.net> <20110309204107.49F37106566B@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20110309204107.49F37106566B@hub.freebsd.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 23:04:04 +0000 Subject: RE: Nonsensical Web Log Entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 22:47:31 -0000 I don't know if I got through the last time but you ... could... add to but= not take away from your operational matrices by writing it to a file. Usin= g tcpdump to anylize the traffic on your webserver, It might clear up some = of the confusion. tcpdump -i fxp0 -nN -vvv -xX -s 1500 port 80 > fale You can also read some of the output data. Eg, here are some of my logs: 168.216.29.89 - - [09/Mar/2011:08:49:15 -0500] "GET /index.php?domain=3Dfix= itbot&tld=3Dcom&lookup=3D%3E%3E HTTP/1.1" 200 5413 "-" "Mozilla /4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)" The query is 8,223 bytes and logged as 5,413 bytes ? The only logical concusion is that the header data is false. Unfortunately = the RAW data does not reveal anything more than that. Maybe you will have b= etter luck .. and p.s. I was hanging out with my android earlier, I hope th= is helps. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of peter@vfemail.net Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:40 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nonsensical Web Log Entries At 03:02 PM 3/9/2011, peter@vfemail.net wrote: >At 03:06 PM 3/9/2011, Robert Bonomi wrote: >>> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 10:40:23 2011 >>> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:57:03 -0500 >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> From: peter@vfemail.net >>> Subject: Nonsensical Web Log Entries >>> >>> >>> I was looking at my Web log this morning, and a bunch of nonsensical >>> entries like these caught my attention: >>> >>> 124.226.181.80 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:49:58 -0500] "GET http://www.yahoo.c= om/ HTTP/1.0" 301 294 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; > MSIE 6.0; Windows NT = 5.1; SV1)" >>> 123.10.97.102 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:01 -0500] "GET http://makeabank.co= m/faq.cgi HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Window= s NT 5.1; SV1)" >>> 115.225.166.2 - > - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:04 -0500] "GET http://join1.winh= undred.com/affiliate/link.php?ref=3D35840&productid=3D7178 HTTP/1.0" 404 34= 85 "http://www.wingclips.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; > MSIE 6.0; Window= s NT 5.1; SV1)" >>> 114.97.197.184 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:15 -0500] "GET http://www.tosunma= il.com/proxyheader.php HTTP/1.0" 301 313 "http://www.cashsoldier.com/Verify= erLevel.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >>> >>> Is my FreeBSD box serving as some kind of Web proxy? >> >>Your box is _not_ doing the proxying. that's why it's signalling errors >>for those requests. >> >>The perpetrators are _hoping_ you are running a misconfigured proxying fr= ont- >>end. > >Does this entry change your conclusion: > > 188.134.62.20 - - [09/Mar/2011:12:15:04 -0500] "GET http://images.goo= gle.com/ HTTP/1.1" 200 13134 "-" "-" > Here's another entry that's too bizarre for words: 218.172.209.123 - - [09/Mar/2011:15:38:29 -0500] "\x16\x03\x01" 200 13= 107 "-" "-" ------------------------------------------------- This message sent via VFEmail.net http://www.vfemail.net $14.95 Lifetime accounts! 15GB disk! No bandwidth quotas! _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 23:07:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78FC106566B for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 23:07:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from mail.shire.net (mail.shire.net [209.41.94.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E11F8FC1C for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 23:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-67-172-236-20.hsd1.ut.comcast.net ([67.172.236.20] helo=[192.168.99.216]) by mail.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1PxSD4-000DA3-7J; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:50:26 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:50:25 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6F1715DF-D31C-4610-872D-7A5E8457B8EF@shire.net> References: To: Nerius Landys X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.172.236.20 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on mail.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 23:07:01 -0000 On Mar 9, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Nerius Landys wrote: > This is not a technical question. >=20 > Basically I have some cash sitting around. I'm thinking of investing > part of it with a company that I believe in. Apple came to mind. You > could say that I'd like to judge Apple's moral character before > investing money with them. Does anyone know how Apple reciprocates to > FreeBSD? After all a lot of MacOSX is borrowed from FreeBSD. I am > not seeing Apple's name on this page: > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml . Are there > other ways in which Apple might be reciprocating? There are some/a few/several people working at Apple that play or used = to play a large role in FreeBSD. So they were basically paying these = people's salaries for their day job which allowed them to be active in = FreeBSD. Also, there is some code put-back I believe. Most of what Apple used from FreeBSD was the userland and the kernel = interface so that the Darwin kernel could be used with FreeBSD userland = utilities that affect the kernel etc. Mac OS X uses a totally = different underlying kernel and architecture but made a FreeBSD like = kernel interface in order to be able to use certain sets of FreeBSD = stuff. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 23:11:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9AE91065796 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 23:11:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@insightbb.com) Received: from mxsf12.insightbb.com (mxsf12.insightbb.com [74.128.0.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470AE8FC19 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 23:11:40 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,292,1297054800"; d="scan'208";a="281199224" Received: from unknown (HELO asav03.insightbb.com) ([172.31.249.123]) by mxsf12.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 09 Mar 2011 18:11:40 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlJPAJaXd01KhIsFO2dsb2JhbACIdpAOjW0MAQEBATUwwzCFZQSFIg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,292,1297054800"; d="scan'208";a="210743889" Received: from 74-132-139-5.dhcp.insightbb.com (HELO laptop2.stevenfriedrich.org) ([74.132.139.5]) by asavout03.insightbb.com with ESMTP; 09 Mar 2011 18:11:40 -0500 From: Steven Friedrich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:11:39 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) References: <201103091132.32080.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> <201103091340.38984.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> In-Reply-To: <201103091340.38984.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201103091811.39540.FreeBSD@insightbb.com> Subject: Re: HP Pavilion zd8000 Xorg anomaly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 23:11:41 -0000 On Wednesday 09 March 2011 13:40:38 Steven Friedrich wrote: > On Wednesday 09 March 2011 12:17:10 pm Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Steven Friedrich > > wrote: > > > My system had crashed and it caused a directory to los it's dot and > > > dot-dot entries. This was a directory that was used for iso-codes and > > > everytie I started X, it would hang. > > > > > > So I didn't want to format the drive, too extreme. So I de-installed > > > all my > > > ports to re-install. After I got the ports un-installed, I was able to > > > fix the filesystem problem with fsck. I tried beforehand,but it was > > > way too many > > > fsck issues. > > > > > > > > > Anyway, I have somehow LOST my xorg.conf that WORKED. > > > > > > It was previously generated by xorg -configure. > > > > You didn't list your video card. > > It's a laptop.No card. ATI Technologies Inc M24 1P [Radeon Mobility X600] > rev 0, > > > Most of the time, you don't need an xorg.conf anymore, just insure the > > proper drivers are installed e.g. video card and X should autodetect and > > use highest available settings. > > That's what 'm saying. It USED to work. NOW it doesn't. > > > Also sometimes on a bad crash multiple fsck's are required to get UFS > > back in a consistent state. Someone submitted a fix. THANKS. I updated and rebuilt xf86-video-ati and it WORKS GREAT. Now it doesn't MATTER that I lost my xorg.conf. The -configure works again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 9 23:31:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADC21065675 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 23:31:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFC18FC21 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 23:31:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p29NVWf2004771; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 23:31:32 GMT Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p29NVWgD004764; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 23:31:32 GMT Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1721133C1F; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 23:31:32 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 23:31:32 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Nerius Landys Message-ID: <20110309233132.GA28666@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 23:31:35 -0000 --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 02:00:37PM -0800, Nerius Landys wrote: > > This is not a technical question. >=20 > Basically I have some cash sitting around. I'm thinking of investing > part of it with a company that I believe in. Apple came to mind. =20 Don't invest your cash in a company that has reached it's peak and is on it's way down after it's charismatic leader dies sooner rather than later. 2nd biggest company by cap after Exxon?! Can you say "overpriced"? > You could say that I'd like to judge Apple's moral character before > investing money with them. Does anyone know how Apple reciprocates > to FreeBSD? After all a lot of MacOSX is borrowed from FreeBSD. I > am not seeing Apple's name on this page: > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml . Are there > other ways in which Apple might be reciprocating? Apple produces the clusterfuck that is CUPS, I believe. They do also produce good stuff that is bsd licensed like GCD. But even if they produce magical pixie dust they're still overpriced. >=20 > - Nerius Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk14DdIACgkQHduKvUAgeK6h3QCeO6esg2dGZ3IabLs1lXGlgnfp qawAnA/4YWE+OZ8cPq28hqYADbdxXR9Q =LrZW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 00:11:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43108106566B for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 00:11:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milo@cyberlifelabs.com) Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E588FC1B for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 00:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HBLC1g0031vN32cAAByolT; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 23:58:48 +0000 Received: from server.bellingham.cyberlifelabs.net ([71.227.219.222]) by omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HBym1g01E4oVxvK8iBynPB; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 23:58:47 +0000 From: Milo Hyson Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 15:58:45 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20110309233132.GA28666@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20110309233132.GA28666@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 00:11:59 -0000 Guess that depends on how one calculates the price. - Milo Hyson Chief Scientist CyberLife Labs, Inc. On Mar 9, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Frank Shute wrote: > On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 02:00:37PM -0800, Nerius Landys wrote: > > But even if they produce magical pixie dust they're still overpriced. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 00:19:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893461065672 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 00:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487668FC18 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 00:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.0.6] (dynamic-24-42-224-110.knology.net [24.42.224.110] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id p2A08tkO013321 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:08:55 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Kelly In-Reply-To: <20110309233132.GA28666@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:08:55 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8860C2F2-680F-4D35-AEA7-24F954D40EA1@hiwaay.net> References: <20110309233132.GA28666@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> To: Frank Shute X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082.1) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Nerius Landys Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 00:19:15 -0000 On Mar 9, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Frank Shute wrote: > Don't invest your cash in a company that has reached it's peak and is > on it's way down after it's charismatic leader dies sooner rather than > later. They said that at $50/share. At $100. At $200. At $300. And continue to say it at $350. There are a lot of smart people at Apple who have had nothing better to = do the past 10 years than to study and learn from Steve Jobs. I'm waiting for $500. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 00:19:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4891065673 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 00:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@hiwaay.net) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCED8FC19 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 00:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.0.6] (dynamic-24-42-224-110.knology.net [24.42.224.110] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id p2A03ANL010133 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:03:11 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Kelly In-Reply-To: <6F1715DF-D31C-4610-872D-7A5E8457B8EF@shire.net> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:03:10 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <6F1715DF-D31C-4610-872D-7A5E8457B8EF@shire.net> To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082.1) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Nerius Landys Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 00:19:15 -0000 On Mar 9, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > There are some/a few/several people working at Apple that play or used = to play a large role in FreeBSD. So they were basically paying these = people's salaries for their day job which allowed them to be active in = FreeBSD. Also, there is some code put-back I believe. Of particular note was the contributions of patches to fix NFS race = conditions. Plus tools to stress and duplicate those conditions. > Most of what Apple used from FreeBSD was the userland and the kernel = interface so that the Darwin kernel could be used with FreeBSD userland = utilities that affect the kernel etc. Mac OS X uses a totally = different underlying kernel and architecture but made a FreeBSD like = kernel interface in order to be able to use certain sets of FreeBSD = stuff. Believe a number of FreeBSD drivers made it into MacOS X. Don't know of = any Apple product which used Intel Etherexpress Pro chipsets but I = popped a PCI card in a Mac one day and it magically worked as if it had = always been there. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 01:23:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F937106566C for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 01:23:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9778FC12 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 01:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8D453E803B7; Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:23:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:23:34 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110310012331.GA10189@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24++ years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: using dovecot, where is ICOMING mail stored? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 01:23:36 -0000 Does anybody know about this obscure stuff? In late DEcember, 2007 my FreeBSD server started having serious problems that were over my head. I asked this list for help but no one could help me; long-story-short, a guy from the DFW area, a self-taught net-wizard came to my rescue. Via the yahoo IM application and thanks to a fellow here with two strong arms, this network guy set me up with a pfSense firewall (on an old Kayak), and fixed/changed stuff on my server. He installed some mail tool called dovecot and deployed that on my server. At the time I was running FreeBSD everywhere except one of my four other computers. He also found something to let me still use mutt. I prefer CLI and text--8859-1 or ASCII. Hand on keyboard; my should got destroyed many years ago so the less motion between keyboard and mouse, the better. This morning I found the 15 or 20 messages in my incoming mail queue gone. Vanished. ---I do of course backup stuff in my ~/Maildir on my server. I checked my bup. Nothing. Does anybody know what this dovecot does with its incoming mail files? I only do one daily backup that it ccron'd for 03:00 [[along with a bunch of other critical directories, of course]] If I knew where else to tar -cyvf I would do that, especially with mail. Particularly things that I consider non-urgent. thanks for any clues! gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 01:42:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC431065675 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 01:42:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rloefgren@forethought.net) Received: from mzpi4.forethought.net (mzpi4.forethought.net [216.241.36.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1798FC25 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 01:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 216-241-45-95.static.forethought.net ([216.241.45.95] helo=auden.jmla.com) by mz2.forethought.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PxTr3-0007ul-O5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:35:49 -0700 Message-ID: <4D781CE5.90806@forethought.net> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:35:49 -0700 From: Reed Loefgren User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110218 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110309233132.GA28666@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20110309233132.GA28666@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 01:42:15 -0000 On 03/09/11 16:31, Frank Shute wrote: > On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 02:00:37PM -0800, Nerius Landys wrote: >> This is not a technical question. >> >> Basically I have some cash sitting around. I'm thinking of investing >> part of it with a company that I believe in. Apple came to mind. > Don't invest your cash in a company that has reached it's peak and is > on it's way down after it's charismatic leader dies sooner rather than > later. > > 2nd biggest company by cap after Exxon?! Can you say "overpriced"? > > >> You could say that I'd like to judge Apple's moral character before >> investing money with them. Does anyone know how Apple reciprocates >> to FreeBSD? After all a lot of MacOSX is borrowed from FreeBSD. I >> am not seeing Apple's name on this page: >> http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml . Are there >> other ways in which Apple might be reciprocating? > Apple produces the clusterfuck that is CUPS, I believe. They do also > produce good stuff that is bsd licensed like GCD. But even if they > produce magical pixie dust they're still overpriced. > > >> - Nerius > Regards, > At US$591.77 and little product in sight, I'd say nerd paramour Google is overpriced too. They're *all* defacto overpriced once one takes into consideration the price is set in large part by the herd mentality. Perhaps fortunately, this works for the underpriced stocks too. The trick is telling which is which. Always has been, unless you're Goldman Sachs. Apple bought CUPS for something like 20 million at some point in the not too distant past. It works great for me with an HP3600n and an HP laserjet4 but, if not for the 3600, I'd be on lpd again in a heartbeat. If you think CUPS is a clusterfuck now you should check out the sundry linux lists pre-sale date. The noobs were tearing their hair out. It's come a long way. The OP can invest where they'd like but like others I'd recommend a small gift to the FreeBSD Foundation. I make one every year at tax time. Feels good... Regards, r From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 01:51:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C19106564A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 01:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhfoo-ml@extracktor.com) Received: from mail.nexlabs.com (mail.nexlabs.com [210.193.32.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61EAA8FC08 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 01:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 68560 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2011 01:27:38 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on frostbite.nexlabs.local X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-31.8 required=8.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,SC_HAM shortcircuit=ham autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.202?) (jhfoo@nexlabs.com@203.123.21.96) by mail.nexlabs.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2011 01:27:38 -0000 Message-ID: <4D782C8D.3020102@extracktor.com> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:42:37 +0800 From: Foo JH User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd general questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 01:51:18 -0000 Hi guys, I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really wanted the GUI). If there is a kind soul who is willing to guide me through via IM (MSN/ Yahoo/ Skype), I'd much appreciate it. Please don't flame me for this email! Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 02:07:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B97A106567F for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:07:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhfoo-ml@extracktor.com) Received: from mail.nexlabs.com (mail.nexlabs.com [210.193.32.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE4388FC0A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 68072 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2011 01:23:24 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on frostbite.nexlabs.local X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-31.8 required=8.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,SC_HAM shortcircuit=ham autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.202?) (jhfoo@nexlabs.com@203.123.21.96) by mail.nexlabs.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2011 01:23:24 -0000 Message-ID: <4D782B8D.1000002@extracktor.com> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:38:21 +0800 From: Foo JH User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110310012331.GA10189@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20110310012331.GA10189@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: using dovecot, where is ICOMING mail stored? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:07:02 -0000 On 3/10/2011 9:23 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > Does anybody know about this obscure stuff? Disclaimer: I don't really know much about dovecot, except that it's a much better IMAP daemon than courier - I don't think dovecot handles SMTP: in other words it does not handle incoming mails. What services did you enable on dovecot? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 02:28:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DB81065670 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:28:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9748FC18 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:28:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio Connect 7.0.0 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Wed, 9 Mar 2011 20:57:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) From: mikel king In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:57:42 +0800 Message-Id: <3633432D-06EA-4AB0-B72A-9967F09D3704@olivent.com> References: To: Nerius Landys X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:28:03 -0000 On Mar 10, 2011, at 6:00 AM, Nerius Landys wrote: > This is not a technical question. >=20 > Basically I have some cash sitting around. I'm thinking of investing > part of it with a company that I believe in. Apple came to mind. You > could say that I'd like to judge Apple's moral character before > investing money with them. Does anyone know how Apple reciprocates to > FreeBSD? After all a lot of MacOSX is borrowed from FreeBSD. I am > not seeing Apple's name on this page: > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml . Are there > other ways in which Apple might be reciprocating? >=20 > - Nerius Apple has had a mixed relationship giving back to the BSD community. = They did hire several developers over time and do have several projects = that they have open sourced. Launchd & iCal server are two of the bigger = ones. I personally feel that they could do better and certainly could = have done things differently in a way that would have helped the = community and built an even stronger product base but let's face it they = sure aren't listening to me. In recent years their marketing as gone to some lengths to scrub the = references to BSD & UNIX from the brochures. It's like they are ashamed = of their roots, again personally I think they hired some new anti-geeks = that just don't get it. I would suggest you look at spreading your investment around to several = BSD supportive companies. Obviously Apple and Juniper pop up to the top = of the list. I would have offered Isilon but they have been assimilated = into the beast know as EMC so that may not be an option. At the end of the day they are a company, and companies must make money = in order to survive. Therefore, do not get too attached to their BSD = rhetoric because the winds of business can change direction at any = moment. On a side note: I would love to find a comprehensive list of both public = and private companies that are BSD supportive. Regards, Mikel King BSD News Network http://bsdnews.net skype: mikel.king http://twitter.com/mikelking From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 02:31:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6C8106564A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:31:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: from web78202.mail.sg1.yahoo.com (web78202.mail.sg1.yahoo.com [183.177.76.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE5488FC0C for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:31:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 70710 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Mar 2011 02:04:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299722699; bh=zwKdIDwaSFLmV4dGrjDsIJmE3IEIsqtRGs7k2GvQZrg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GA4BfHuihKH+jlfqljAuxGCFkpFXh/gxAR9QzNmQsMNKRvKUgbibB0d657V/jDVbgiS9evnQ2NnlVW1ZNlG8DcNkHywlRlnqtbmpE7j9MJsDojhJZISB1y8NPT0llJqQQk7mHWvd4tc3puOwstLMYp8HdimIAmSD5pcixqk1KCY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GTP8vuJakPJe2lCyqj8tvctuNc/XnWLplhXcRWHvgfQbEu+3aTNu1DJlDUIKbRdz5nvip1FvECbESZwRrxWE+gwB1lBlsA7JcOisBe/HGj0eAJzymkcrFYqDsuD5ttDceU7YYPSn8910mFku8jLJFr5oo8ScK75fVdWSkjkocg0=; Message-ID: <767954.70191.qm@web78202.mail.sg1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ZWNm8lcVM1kl21O8gIcvQD4Vxe.bbjJnt.VtcEq4tfYtwWS vrA3QvyBNInTN0w38amXlzpm.gnnBgzoquIKtJSTEMVGddzhmr9459db3W5Q eCtesZx8mHZYHPcWVDxKxM2VQ.C3ol47_0bmjKapI.PB7IDVz1QvGJ_UdQ58 fbITzy.y.pSJ9DczgU8vBXWOfLm90jCEAMIQ6_2Cxo1JQw1.jEDuS2xGbbnq GDtFeFQeJLjNHAb4VtfevLjmyv33WqVG0zzkd6OQpTw7LlTRRhsuhRHlmMBT fqENr1OdpwPQvYyMonA5xSEqVhdwPP74hDmqC Received: from [202.175.250.14] by web78202.mail.sg1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:04:59 SGT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:04:59 +0800 (SGT) From: lyd mc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: IBM ServeRAID M5015 and ServeRAID-MR10i X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:31:40 -0000 Hi guys, We are planning to buy new servers. I would like to ask if this RAID controllers already supported by FreeBSD. Does anyone here already use it in their production servers? Thanks guys, Alydiomc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 02:14:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA49106566B for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:14:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout025.mac.com (asmtpout025.mac.com [17.148.16.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33978FC0A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:14:25 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from [10.1.2.15] ([173.200.187.194]) by asmtp025.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTPSA id <0LHT00DIDKVOJP70@asmtp025.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:14:18 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-03-10_01:2011-03-09, 2011-03-10, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1103090205 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <6F1715DF-D31C-4610-872D-7A5E8457B8EF@shire.net> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:14:12 -0800 Message-id: <3A385E2B-76F8-45D0-84F5-7783848BA5EE@mac.com> References: <6F1715DF-D31C-4610-872D-7A5E8457B8EF@shire.net> To: Nerius Landys X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 03:04:14 +0000 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:14:25 -0000 Hi-- #include It wouldn't be considered appropriate for Apple employees or contractors (well, outside of the folks working in investor relations, perhaps) to try to persuade someone to invest in a particular company because of which open source projects Apple might be contributing towards. In another context, someone from Apple who was familiar with those contributions might be free to discuss them, but they would generally be expected to not identify their affiliation with Apple to avoid unduly influencing other people or creating a real or perceived conflict of interest. Someone who was looking for more information about this would find the investor relations page, corporate governance section, and the Business Conduct Policy documents informative, which are all publicly documented here: http://www.apple.com/investor/ http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=107357&p=irol-govHighlights http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External.File?item=UGFyZW50SUQ9NTQ1NTF8Q2hpbGRJRD0tMXxUeXBlPTM=&t=1 (PDF warning) Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 02:18:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0DC0106564A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:18:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alydiomc@yahoo.com) Received: from nm4.bullet.mail.sg1.yahoo.com (nm4.bullet.mail.sg1.yahoo.com [115.178.12.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F4058FC19 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [115.178.12.220] by nm4.bullet.mail.sg1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2011 02:05:18 -0000 Received: from [115.178.12.216] by tm1.bullet.mail.sg1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2011 02:05:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.mail.sg1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2011 02:05:18 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 625757.48089.bm@omp1001.mail.sg1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 76970 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Mar 2011 02:05:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1299722718; bh=TUSOgZX9YBzXnLPbIxflCYF1AhnFaBhVUw/gn60HWrQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pY8Du7WNdV/gE7fIvOEk2YakwI5ZXDQ3ha9Ddwjr7ydKKErmd+a8i7qMr93LEsHOTQ7ah//l8h9w/775I2fKHzyQsCEfdEMaqk95g9kSrme9PkZq4nhNXu/TjzRRka21KCzpvK5PeYsZ2/wmZDHM7SE97zfGS/Th1S1uTlO/Mnw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=h4ErMGg/+7bEQgHNOKahZmpHd1GWFP7UcUULkOtjvopEPU9D80wxLSGcIwwtqxH/HbudKZDaI/MCkKJ0NHWmInpzeLba5R/WrQt3XYcMMnUK1bI/1dlTO+RcDdSxQKotJwlu1EgZ8lMXGEHbcMttJPIZ8rDnJxE4RcHbIAn9El4=; Message-ID: <497449.64384.qm@web78206.mail.sg1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 5n5Uc9wVM1lQC6TXBPP4le8ttJMZJX0i9PdaSIIJGk.Rs2s eVyqaPwWf2bl5yOwxpWeXENm3xE.oNVgmImErbaf5v45jI_FIeGXuBfwF3PX 8TxGSD328U5AWAfJIhtM.7Gd5z0ZAlynl7S45vmDIhzQOkL2oLtxHtq53Wmj 5p7VWMV58.km.2DBQr1U96NFsvIMAbrlHxAalm_vA00vKUNpV8_nJdoKpyKd R0HH.4ZE8WMK4dviwJAE3HJWoOmNqSFyRJo.XFGdAYPSU07j5ONl3XeksLBE 468MmFN6laEnvZnNMjHagaLTCTPQ51BOsDd3Q Received: from [202.175.250.14] by web78206.mail.sg1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:05:18 SGT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.292656 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:05:18 +0800 (SGT) From: lyd mc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 03:04:33 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: IBM ServeRAID M5015 and ServeRAID-MR10i X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 02:18:23 -0000 Hi guys, We are planning to buy new servers. I would like to ask if this RAID controllers already supported by FreeBSD. Does anyone here already use it in their production servers? Thanks guys, Alydiomc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 04:00:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD031065673 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 04:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juan@juanyjosefina.com) Received: from smtpauth20.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth20.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E0BE8FC13 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 04:00:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7320 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2011 03:33:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.109.190.167) by smtpauth20.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.36) with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2011 03:33:52 -0000 From: "Juan C. Valido" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4D782C8D.3020102@extracktor.com> References: <4D782C8D.3020102@extracktor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 22:33:51 -0500 Message-ID: <1299728031.72606.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 04:00:33 -0000 I'm an old "foggie" also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/ On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote: > Hi guys, > > I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to > read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any > popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile > new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu > Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really > wanted the GUI). > > If there is a kind soul who is willing to guide me through via IM (MSN/ > Yahoo/ Skype), I'd much appreciate it. Please don't flame me for this > email! > > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 04:47:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3EED106564A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 04:47:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080C58FC12 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 04:47:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p2A4l9tB074920; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:47:10 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:47:09 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: peter@vfemail.net In-Reply-To: <20110309233148.0F4CF1065771@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20110310142433.M68517@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20110309233148.0F4CF1065771@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: Nonsensical Web Log Entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 04:47:15 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 353, Issue 5, Message: 21 On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:02:57 -0500 peter@vfemail.net wrote: > At 03:06 PM 3/9/2011, Robert Bonomi wrote: > >> > >> I was looking at my Web log this morning, and a bunch of nonsensical > >> entries like these caught my attention: > >> > >> 124.226.181.80 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:49:58 -0500] "GET http://www.yahoo.com/ HTTP/1.0" 301 294 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; > MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" > >> 123.10.97.102 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:01 -0500] "GET http://makeabank.com/faq.cgi HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" > >> 115.225.166.2 - > - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:04 -0500] "GET http://join1.winhundred.com/affiliate/link.php?ref=35840&productid=7178 HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "http://www.wingclips.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; > MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" > >> 114.97.197.184 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:15 -0500] "GET http://www.tosunmail.com/proxyheader.php HTTP/1.0" 301 313 "http://www.cashsoldier.com/VerifyerLevel.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" > >> > >> Is my FreeBSD box serving as some kind of Web proxy? > > > >Your box is _not_ doing the proxying. that's why it's signalling errors > >for those requests. > > > >The perpetrators are _hoping_ you are running a misconfigured proxying front- > >end. > > Does this entry change your conclusion: > > 188.134.62.20 - - [09/Mar/2011:12:15:04 -0500] "GET http://images.google.com/ HTTP/1.1" 200 13134 "-" "-" No, Robert is right. Note that the first four you listed were all HTTP/1.0 requests. The ones with anything after the last '/' are 404 (page not found) except the last. Not sure about that 301, do you have a proxyheader.php? The more recent one is HTTP/1.1 with nothing after the last / so the http://images.google.com is ignored, and I expect you may find that your home page (ie requests for just '/') serve up 13134 bytes? Ar least that's what happens here with apache 1.3; here's a few examples from a seldom-accessed vhost where lots of requests are bogus, usually appearing across multiple vhosts (ie, from a sweep over IP addresses) 24.106.193.92 - - [01/Feb/2011:23:05:21 +1100] "GET http://www.ya.ru:80/ HTTP/1.0" 200 2327 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; Synapse)" (this one fetched the home page, see below) 83.20.184.159 - - [02/Feb/2011:10:43:04 +1100] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 403 287 "-" "-" (requests w/ no referer (sic) and no browser ("-" "-") are denied here) 217.174.232.11 - - [03/Feb/2011:20:31:16 +1100] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 2327 "-" "Opera/9.00 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)" 88.250.12.104 - - [03/Feb/2011:20:36:45 +1100] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 2327 "-" "Opera/9.00 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)" (accepted requests, this static / page always serves 2327 bytes) 109.61.188.165 - - [05/Feb/2011:20:46:04 +1100] "GET http://www.yahoo.com/ HTTP/1.1" 403 287 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 95)" 84.127.236.75 - - [06/Feb/2011:10:25:53 +1100] "GET http://www.ebay.com/ HTTP/1.1" 403 287 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 95)" (forbidden browser strings &/or IP addresses in $apachedir/access.conf) 91.195.136.10 - - [07/Feb/2011:02:33:55 +1100] "GET http://images.google.com/ HTTP/1.1" 200 2327 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E)" Oh look, one just like yours, but with an acceptable browser string .. so it got the homepage, attempted proxying request being just ignored. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 07:39:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FB11065670 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6420E8FC1D for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:39:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:39:55 +0100 Message-ID: <4D78804B.4040406@ose.nl> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:39:55 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D782C8D.3020102@extracktor.com> <1299728031.72606.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> In-Reply-To: <1299728031.72606.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:39:58 -0000 On 03/10/2011 04=3A33 AM=2C Juan C=2E Valido wrote=3A =3E I=27m an old =22foggie=22 also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a l= ot of =3E research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan=27s blog=2E God= =3E Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up=2E And= yes =3E it=27s running gnome=2E https=3A//www=2Edan=2Eme=2Euk/blog/category/fre= ebsd/ =3E =3E On Thu=2C 2011-03-10 at 09=3A42 +0800=2C Foo JH wrote=3A =3E=3E Hi guys=2C =3E=3E =3E=3E I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all=2E I=27ve tr= ied to=20 =3E=3E read=2C follow=2C and re-read the steps=2C but I=27m not still getti= ng any=20 =3E=3E popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers=2E Meanw= hile=20 =3E=3E new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubunt= u=20 =3E=3E Desktop =28yes=2C they abstained from the server edition because the= y really=20 =3E=3E wanted the GUI=29=2E Hi Why would you want a window manager on your servers=3F Do you all work directly on the consoles=3F Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and access your servers remotely=3F It=27s not very hard=2C I would say it=27s easier=2C to configure your serv= ers and services from the commandline with ssh=2E Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also=2E= This is what I tend to roll-out for other =28graphical oriented=29 administrators and with some custom commands confi= gured this works great for them=2E DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 10:38:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FC0106566C for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:38:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE41E8FC1D for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:38:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1PxdG6-0003ve-GO>; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:38:18 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1PxdG6-0005Rm-EQ>; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:38:18 +0100 Message-ID: <4D78AA1B.3000000@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:38:19 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110307 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4D75EB04.7090704@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xpdf can not print via cups if started from firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:38:20 -0000 On 03/08/11 16:51, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, O. Hartmann wrote: > >> I've got a weird problem here. Very often I download scientific papers >> as pdf from protals and they got opened via firefox3 with the >> configured propper utility, in this case xpdf. In such a case, >> printing is impossible. I hit the print button, a popup shows up with >> the configured CUPS printing queue, but hitting OK doesn't have any >> effect. The funny thing is: when opening the same PDF (it is stored in >> /tmp/) with xpdf by starting xpdf from a terminal, printing on the >> same queue works well. > > In your .xpdfrc, do you specify a full path to the CUPS lpr? I did now and it hasn't any effect. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 12:01:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E317E1065670 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:01:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juan@juanyjosefina.com) Received: from p3plsmtpa01-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE9DB8FC14 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:01:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25447 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2011 11:35:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.109.190.167) by p3plsmtpa01-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.86) with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2011 11:35:01 -0000 From: "Juan C. Valido" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4D78804B.4040406@ose.nl> References: <4D782C8D.3020102@extracktor.com> <1299728031.72606.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> <4D78804B.4040406@ose.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 06:35:00 -0500 Message-ID: <1299756900.73766.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:01:43 -0000 A GUI on a server is just a matter of preference, I go back to before Dos 1.0 and when Windows came out, I fell in love. Now I've got to have a GUI on everything, besides as you get older the command line becomes harder (memory loss)... On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 08:39 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: > On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote: > > I'm an old "foggie" also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of > > research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God > > Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes > > it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/ > > > > On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote: > >> Hi guys, > >> > >> I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to > >> read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any > >> popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile > >> new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu > >> Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really > >> wanted the GUI). > Hi > Why would you want a window manager on your servers? > Do you all work directly on the consoles? > Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and > access your servers remotely? > It's not very hard, I would say it's easier, to configure your servers and > services from the commandline with ssh. > Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also. > This is what I tend to roll-out for other > (graphical oriented) administrators and with some custom commands configured > this works great for them. > > > DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, > distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it > by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 12:46:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523C3106566B for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:46:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC72E8FC0A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:46:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:46:42 +0100 Message-ID: <4D78C832.6050301@ose.nl> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:46:42 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D782C8D.3020102@extracktor.com> <1299728031.72606.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> <4D78804B.4040406@ose.nl> <1299756900.73766.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> In-Reply-To: <1299756900.73766.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:46:45 -0000 On 03/10/2011 12=3A35 PM=2C Juan C=2E Valido wrote=3A =3E A GUI on a server is just a matter of preference=2C I go back to before= =3E Dos 1=2E0 and when Windows came out=2C I fell in love=2E Now I=27ve got= to have =3E a GUI on everything=2C besides as you get older the command line become= s =3E harder =28memory loss=29=2E=2E=2E Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a regular basis=3F Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports =28application= s=29 on these servers=2C because it can give you a lot of time=2C work e=2Eg=2E= unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating=2E Webmin is a good GUI progam =28from client perspective=29 for administerin= g your servers=2C it just runs in your clients webbrowser and you can adminis= ter almost every aspect of your servers with it=2E Also you might want to take a look at=3A http=3A//www=2Efreebsdforums=2Eorg/plesk-cpanel-dedicated-servers/ =3E On Thu=2C 2011-03-10 at 08=3A39 +0100=2C Bas Smeelen wrote=3A =3E=3E On 03/10/2011 04=3A33 AM=2C Juan C=2E Valido wrote=3A =3E=3E=3E I=27m an old =22foggie=22 also and a lifetime Windows guy and I d= id a lot of =3E=3E=3E research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan=27s blog= =2E God =3E=3E=3E Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up= =2E And yes =3E=3E=3E it=27s running gnome=2E https=3A//www=2Edan=2Eme=2Euk/blog/catego= ry/freebsd/ =3E=3E=3E =3E=3E=3E On Thu=2C 2011-03-10 at 09=3A42 +0800=2C Foo JH wrote=3A =3E=3E=3E=3E Hi guys=2C =3E=3E=3E=3E =3E=3E=3E=3E I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all=2E I= =27ve tried to=20 =3E=3E=3E=3E read=2C follow=2C and re-read the steps=2C but I=27m not still= getting any=20 =3E=3E=3E=3E popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers=2E= Meanwhile=20 =3E=3E=3E=3E new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via= Ubuntu=20 =3E=3E=3E=3E Desktop =28yes=2C they abstained from the server edition becau= se they really=20 =3E=3E=3E=3E wanted the GUI=29=2E =3E=3E Hi =3E=3E Why would you want a window manager on your servers=3F =3E=3E Do you all work directly on the consoles=3F =3E=3E Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations= and =3E=3E access your servers remotely=3F =3E=3E It=27s not very hard=2C I would say it=27s easier=2C to configure yo= ur servers and =3E=3E services from the commandline with ssh=2E =3E=3E Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine= also=2E =3E=3E This is what I tend to roll-out for other =3E=3E =28graphical oriented=29 administrators and with some custom command= s configured =3E=3E this works great for them=2E DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 12:52:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93546106564A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:52:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from smtp204.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp204.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4478FC0A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:52:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp50.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C536A3880B1 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:52:18 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp50.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id 3CDB53880AD for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:52:18 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.1.0.101012 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:52:13 -0500 From: Tom Worster To: FreeBSD Message-ID: Thread-Topic: lost network during freebsd-update install Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: lost network during freebsd-update install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:52:19 -0000 i was upgrading a remote machine from 7.1 to 8.1 with freebsd-update. the "freebsd-update -r 8.1-RELEASE upgrade" phase was complete and i had given: # freebsd-update install Installing updates... when the wifi on my local computer went away. eventually i restarted the wifi interface but the ssh session didn't recover. i don't know if the freebsd-update command completed or not. or how to find out. and if it did not, what to do next. i'd be most grateful for any help. tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 13:02:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAC4106564A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40898FC19 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:01:58 +0100 Message-ID: <4D78CBC7.2040307@ose.nl> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:01:59 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: lost network during freebsd-update install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:02:01 -0000 On 03/10/2011 01=3A52 PM=2C Tom Worster wrote=3A =3E i was upgrading a remote machine from 7=2E1 to 8=2E1 with freebsd-updat= e=2E =3E =3E the =22freebsd-update -r 8=2E1-RELEASE upgrade=22 phase was complete an= d i had =3E given=3A =3E =3E =23 freebsd-update install =3E Installing updates=2E=2E=2E =3E =3E when the wifi on my local computer went away=2E eventually i restarted= the =3E wifi interface but the ssh session didn=27t recover=2E =3E =3E =3E i don=27t know if the freebsd-update command completed or not=2E or how= to =3E find out=2E and if it did not=2C what to do next=2E =3E =3E i=27d be most grateful for any help=2E =3E tom You should be able to connect to your server =28new ssh session=29 because= at this stage freebsd-update is installing the new kernel=2E Then just repeat the freebsd-update install step and you should be fine and= continue with it following the steps listed in the handbook Also screen =281=29 can be your friend for doing things on remote servers= =2E DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 13:03:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED410106564A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc2-cmbg14-2-0-cust883.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com [86.26.3.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90888FC14 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:03:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan by catflap.slightlystrange.org with local (Exim 4.74 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1PxfWp-000EKL-Ak for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:03:43 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:03:43 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110310130343.GC2301@catflap.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20110310012331.GA10189@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q0rSlbzrZN6k9QnT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110310012331.GA10189@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE amd64 Sender: Daniel Bye Cc: Subject: Re: using dovecot, where is ICOMING mail stored? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:03:45 -0000 --Q0rSlbzrZN6k9QnT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 05:23:34PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: >=20 > Does anybody know about this obscure stuff? >=20 > In late DEcember, 2007 my FreeBSD server started having serious > problems that were over my head. I asked this list for help but no > one could help me; long-story-short, a guy from the DFW area, a > self-taught net-wizard came to my rescue. Via the yahoo IM > application and thanks to a fellow here with two strong arms, this > network guy set me up with a pfSense firewall (on an old Kayak), and > fixed/changed stuff on my server. He installed some mail tool > called dovecot and deployed that on my server. At the time I was > running FreeBSD everywhere except one of my four other computers. > He also found something to let me still use mutt. I prefer CLI and > text--8859-1 or ASCII. Hand on keyboard; my should got destroyed > many years ago so the less motion between keyboard and mouse, the > better. >=20 > This morning I found the 15 or 20 messages in my incoming mail queue > gone. Vanished. ---I do of course backup stuff in my ~/Maildir on > my server. I checked my bup. Nothing. Does anybody know what > this dovecot does with its incoming mail files? I only do one daily > backup that it ccron'd for 03:00 [[along with a bunch of other > critical directories, of course]] =20 If you haven't changed the dovecot config file, look in it for the mail_location setting. For example, mine is set to: mail_location =3D maildir:~/Maildir =46rom what you say above, about backups of ~/Maildir, I would expect you to find something very similar. If that's not what you find, try looking in the location it does point to. If you still have no luck, look at your SMTP server's config and figure out how it handles local deliveries. For example, my exim install is set up to send messages for local delivery through a pipe to the maildrop program, which in turn delivers them to folders under my ~/Maildir according to my filtering rules. Good luck! Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --Q0rSlbzrZN6k9QnT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk14zC8ACgkQixf5fBYiFmrgggCdFVSva+VRXh2OyF54zEKUQzA6 WM0AoIaVOu1SYNbacz2fZ8/xIjA1ngTd =X357 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q0rSlbzrZN6k9QnT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 13:04:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37ED21065673 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5318FC13 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:04:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:04:20 +0100 Message-ID: <4D78CC54.6020907@ose.nl> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:04:20 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D782C8D.3020102@extracktor.com> <1299728031.72606.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> <4D78804B.4040406@ose.nl> <1299756900.73766.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> <4D78C832.6050301@ose.nl> In-Reply-To: <4D78C832.6050301@ose.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:04:23 -0000 On 03/10/2011 01=3A46 PM=2C Bas Smeelen wrote=3A =3E On 03/10/2011 12=3A35 PM=2C Juan C=2E Valido wrote=3A =3E=3E A GUI on a server is just a matter of preference=2C I go back to bef= ore =3E=3E Dos 1=2E0 and when Windows came out=2C I fell in love=2E Now I=27ve= got to have =3E=3E a GUI on everything=2C besides as you get older the command line bec= omes =3E=3E harder =28memory loss=29=2E=2E=2E On the other hand=2C you might want to try PC-BSD=2E I think it is very well supported and up to date and comes with GUI parts= and the option to install as FreeBSD =3E Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a= =3E regular basis=3F =3E Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports =28applica= tions=29 =3E on these servers=2C because it can give you a lot of time=2C work e=2Eg= =2E =3E unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating=2E =3E Webmin is a good GUI progam =28from client perspective=29 for administ= ering =3E your servers=2C it just runs in your clients webbrowser and you can adm= inister =3E almost every aspect of your servers with it=2E =3E Also you might want to take a look at=3A =3E http=3A//www=2Efreebsdforums=2Eorg/plesk-cpanel-dedicated-servers/ =3E =3E=3E On Thu=2C 2011-03-10 at 08=3A39 +0100=2C Bas Smeelen wrote=3A =3E=3E=3E On 03/10/2011 04=3A33 AM=2C Juan C=2E Valido wrote=3A =3E=3E=3E=3E I=27m an old =22foggie=22 also and a lifetime Windows guy and= I did a lot of =3E=3E=3E=3E research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan=27s bl= og=2E God =3E=3E=3E=3E Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server u= p=2E And yes =3E=3E=3E=3E it=27s running gnome=2E https=3A//www=2Edan=2Eme=2Euk/blog/cat= egory/freebsd/ =3E=3E=3E=3E =3E=3E=3E=3E On Thu=2C 2011-03-10 at 09=3A42 +0800=2C Foo JH wrote=3A =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E Hi guys=2C =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all=2E= I=27ve tried to=20 =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E read=2C follow=2C and re-read the steps=2C but I=27m not st= ill getting any=20 =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers= =2E Meanwhile=20 =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager= via Ubuntu=20 =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E Desktop =28yes=2C they abstained from the server edition be= cause they really=20 =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E wanted the GUI=29=2E =3E=3E=3E Hi =3E=3E=3E Why would you want a window manager on your servers=3F =3E=3E=3E Do you all work directly on the consoles=3F =3E=3E=3E Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstati= ons and =3E=3E=3E access your servers remotely=3F =3E=3E=3E It=27s not very hard=2C I would say it=27s easier=2C to configure= your servers and =3E=3E=3E services from the commandline with ssh=2E =3E=3E=3E Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fi= ne also=2E =3E=3E=3E This is what I tend to roll-out for other =3E=3E=3E =28graphical oriented=29 administrators and with some custom comm= ands configured =3E=3E=3E this works great for them=2E DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 13:08:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AEA8106564A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juan@juanyjosefina.com) Received: from p3plsmtpa06-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 569068FC18 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 6865 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2011 13:08:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.109.190.167) by p3plsmtpa06-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.192.111) with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2011 13:08:00 -0000 From: "Juan C. Valido" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4D78804B.4040406@ose.nl> References: <4D782C8D.3020102@extracktor.com> <1299728031.72606.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> <4D78804B.4040406@ose.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:07:59 -0500 Message-ID: <1299762479.73918.2.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:08:02 -0000 Thank you, being a Windows guy, I didn't know about webmin, tried it and was impressed. New Server coming up no GUI... On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 08:39 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: > On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote: > > I'm an old "foggie" also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of > > research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God > > Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes > > it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/ > > > > On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote: > >> Hi guys, > >> > >> I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to > >> read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any > >> popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile > >> new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu > >> Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really > >> wanted the GUI). > Hi > Why would you want a window manager on your servers? > Do you all work directly on the consoles? > Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and > access your servers remotely? > It's not very hard, I would say it's easier, to configure your servers and > services from the commandline with ssh. > Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also. > This is what I tend to roll-out for other > (graphical oriented) administrators and with some custom commands configured > this works great for them. > > > DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, > distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it > by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 13:37:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210101065672 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:37:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from smtp134.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp134.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8FE48FC16 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp33.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 29B19309EC; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:37:28 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp33.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id C4426309C7; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:37:27 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.1.0.101012 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:37:25 -0500 From: Tom Worster To: Bas Smeelen , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: lost network during freebsd-update install In-Reply-To: <4D78CBC7.2040307@ose.nl> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: lost network during freebsd-update install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:37:29 -0000 On 3/10/11 8:01 AM, "Bas Smeelen" wrote: >On 03/10/2011 01:52 PM, Tom Worster wrote: >>i was upgrading a remote machine from 7.1 to 8.1 with freebsd-update. >> >>the "freebsd-update -r 8.1-RELEASE upgrade" phase was complete and i had >>given: >> >># freebsd-update install >>Installing updates... >> >>when the wifi on my local computer went away. eventually i restarted the >>wifi interface but the ssh session didn't recover. >> >> >>i don't know if the freebsd-update command completed or not. or how to >>find out. and if it did not, what to do next. >> >>i'd be most grateful for any help. >>tom >You should be able to connect to your server (new ssh session) because at >this stage freebsd-update is installing the new kernel. >Then just repeat the freebsd-update install step and you should be fine >and >continue with it following the steps listed in the handbook doesn't look good: # freebsd-update install Installing updates...Bad system call (core dumped) Bad system call (core dumped) Bad system call (core dumped) Bad system call (core dumped) ... and the terminal buffer is filling up with those fast. >Also screen (1) can be your friend for doing things on remote servers. do you mean ports/sysutils/screen ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 13:51:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1AE106566B for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:51:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from smtp134.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp134.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3D18FC1A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:51:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp33.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4A91630AD4; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:51:14 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp33.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id 3C4B830A94; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:51:11 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.1.0.101012 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:51:06 -0500 From: Tom Worster To: mikel king , Nerius Landys Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Apple & FreeBSD relationship In-Reply-To: <3633432D-06EA-4AB0-B72A-9967F09D3704@olivent.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:51:15 -0000 On 3/9/11 8:57 PM, "mikel king" wrote: >In recent years their marketing as gone to some lengths to scrub the >references to BSD & UNIX from the brochures. It's like they are ashamed >of their roots, again personally I think they hired some new anti-geeks >that just don't get it. i think it's deeper than that. they know what they are doing. back at the beginning, os x was great. finally a decent, user-friendly gui on top of a decent unix-like thing, which, oh joy, felt like bsd. for years, apple improved os x and did some oss work. e.g. webkit is decent stuff. life was good. ms word in this window, terminal in that one, mysql, perl, then the iphone and the disaster of not having an sdk ready (other than mobile safari) happened. they wised up and everything changed. with ios apple has a strategy to get away from all that openness. they are steering developers away from the web and portable web apps. so they are backpedaling on safari and os x as best they can. if they can dominate in mobile hardware for a while longer they may achieve some serious api lock-in. then we will be in trouble. it is the same strategy ms used after they won the browser war with netscape -- they backpedaled on IE, got very deep windows api lock in, and made a load of money. it's been a curious inversion. 10 years ago, in terms of how scared i am, i'd have ranked ms, apple and google with ms at the top and both apple and google as not very scary. now i am terrified of google, very scared of apple and i hardly even think about ms. so i think the change is very canny and comes from the top, not from some anti-geeks that don't get it. and as far as investing in corporate stock is concerned, oss virtue (like environmental virtue or sweat shop virtue) is just so much marketing blather. a corporation's responsibility is to make money for its investors. business ethics is and always will be purely utilitarian. apple has good marketing but don't kid yourself. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 13:54:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C1A1065672 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:54:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68218FC29 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:54:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:54:18 +0100 Message-ID: <4D78D80A.8060409@ose.nl> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:54:18 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: lost network during freebsd-update install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:54:21 -0000 On 03/10/2011 02=3A37 PM=2C Tom Worster wrote=3A =3E freebsd-update install =3E Installing updates=2E=2E=2EBad system call =28core dumped=29 But your server is running and other services are ok=3F Is your kernel still 7=2E1 =3F I guess it should be=2E =28uname -a=29 Looks like either a newer version of freebsd-update already got installed= which is not compatible with some library or the other way around=2E I have never gone from 7=2E1 to 8=2E1 directly and I haven=27t lost my conn= ection during the updates=2E Does freebsd-update rollback work=3F I guess maybe not but it=27s worth a try=2E Then it=27s time to dive into the exact workings of freebsd-update when goi= ng from 7=2E1 to 8=2E1 I guess=2E BTW Yes I mean sysutils/screen DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 14:03:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DCF1065675 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from smtp134.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp134.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720EA8FC1F for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp33.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DD441302E2; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:03:46 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp33.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id 7383530B95; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:03:46 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.1.0.101012 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:03:41 -0500 From: Tom Worster To: Bas Smeelen , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: lost network during freebsd-update install In-Reply-To: <4D78D80A.8060409@ose.nl> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: lost network during freebsd-update install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:03:47 -0000 at this stage, i have no remote access. even if i could gain access, i wouldn't know what state it's in or how to proceed. it's probably best now to pay for the hosting company to install 8.1 from cd. On 3/10/11 8:54 AM, "Bas Smeelen" wrote: >On 03/10/2011 02:37 PM, Tom Worster wrote: >> freebsd-update install >> Installing updates...Bad system call (core dumped) >But your server is running and other services are ok? > >Is your kernel still 7.1 ? >I guess it should be. (uname -a) > >Looks like either a newer version of freebsd-update already got installed >which is not compatible with some library or the other way around. >I have never gone from 7.1 to 8.1 directly and I haven't lost my >connection >during the updates. > >Does freebsd-update rollback work? >I guess maybe not but it's worth a try. > >Then it's time to dive into the exact workings of freebsd-update when >going >from 7.1 to 8.1 I guess. > > >BTW Yes I mean sysutils/screen > > >DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, >disclosure, copying, >distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If >you have received it >by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your >system. > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 14:13:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47773106564A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2098FC0C for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:13:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:13:39 +0100 Message-ID: <4D78DC93.7000303@ose.nl> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:13:39 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: lost network during freebsd-update install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:13:43 -0000 On 03/10/2011 03=3A03 PM=2C Tom Worster wrote=3A =3E at this stage=2C i have no remote access=2E even if i could gain access= =2C i =3E wouldn=27t know what state it=27s in or how to proceed=2E it=27s probab= ly best now =3E to pay for the hosting company to install 8=2E1 from cd=2E Well if this is an option=2E But before paying and with a bit of bad luck= getting the same problem in 8=2E1 it would be nice to know what=27s the cau= se=2E You do not have remote console access and a way to mount a virtual cdrom=3F= It sounds more like kernel and userland are not in sync or something else= =2E This shouldn=27t be a problem caused by freeb-update though=2E Maybe someone has a clue about this=3F Is this on real hardware or hosted in a virtual machine setup=3F I haven=27t have this happen with about 30 servers the last three years goi= ng from 6 to 7 and to 8=2C the latter with freebsd-update=2C rebooting with GE= NERIC and then building a custom kernel=2E DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 14:17:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230AE106566B for ; 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10 Mar 2011 14:17:53 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: S65s63SswBDjU54Gjqw2GSWlZmfgiEU_X3tN1_9u X-YMail-OSG: DosIX2AVM1mEtxNlfglkbgzgLRwYNJV17JFP9J0dOdN2nR5 G_gC5BF3G.BSWU7bc1cM0mki_EYBbGBOuF5T3tUUMbv5uTaOkpGNPeWT3EXI cJ.WtBpkdrgC8cRkHdI34tfGbdNsDNjOLSzZGlAAx1l2LbStYLkfrPiLYUZ1 LrJCEFhRlD5xsGMYbYChD0eGINCKLYLHoQMOsxiphEYbf_u4x6zR6bWiikDK iC5vozR1V2yZ4iO1whr.lucksytY41mNJ_A876EQDAR0no0o- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so2035284wwc.31 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 06:17:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.2.149 with SMTP id 21mr4101134wbj.85.1299766673080; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 06:17:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.72.143 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 06:17:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D78D80A.8060409@ose.nl> References: <4D78D80A.8060409@ose.nl> From: Alexandre Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:17:33 +0100 Message-ID: To: Bas Smeelen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lost network during freebsd-update install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:17:55 -0000 On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote: > On 03/10/2011 02:37 PM, Tom Worster wrote: > BTW Yes I mean sysutils/screen > There is also TMUX http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/tmux/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 15:24:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5911065673 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from smtp164.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp164.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508748FC19 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:24:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp46.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A79F9E8246; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:24:37 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp46.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id C73C6E824A; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:24:36 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.1.0.101012 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:24:30 -0500 From: Tom Worster To: Bas Smeelen , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: lost network during freebsd-update install In-Reply-To: <4D78DC93.7000303@ose.nl> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: lost network during freebsd-update install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:24:38 -0000 On 3/10/11 9:13 AM, "Bas Smeelen" wrote: >On 03/10/2011 03:03 PM, Tom Worster wrote: >>at this stage, i have no remote access. even if i could gain access, i >>wouldn't know what state it's in or how to proceed. it's probably best >>now >>to pay for the hosting company to install 8.1 from cd. >Well if this is an option. But before paying and with a bit of bad luck >getting the same problem in 8.1 it would be nice to know what's the cause. >You do not have remote console access and a way to mount a virtual cdrom? no. if i can't ssh then i need local help. i'll ask them to try rollback before resorting to cd. >It sounds more like kernel and userland are not in sync or something else. >This shouldn't be a problem caused by freeb-update though. the handbook describes a procedure: A) 1st freebsd-update install: The kernel and kernel modules will be patched B) reboot C) 2nd freebsd-update install: The state of the process has been saved and thus,freebsd-update will not start from the beginning, but will remove all old shared libraries and object files i'm just guessing... A) did not complete because its shell exited. i was left with a half-patched kernel. when i did "freebsd-update install" again, instead of doing A) over from scratch, it attempted C) and started dumping cores all over the carpet. result: system can't get the kernel up properly. or another guess... A) did complete while i was disconnected. when i repeated "freebsd-update install" it attempted C) but because the old kernel was still running it didn't work and started dumping cores all over the carpet. result: system hangs attempting to start some userland part. it seems a pity now that freebsd-update chose to use the same command verb for both A and C. >Maybe someone has a clue about this? >Is this on real hardware or hosted in a virtual machine setup? real hw. i'm considering going to the clouds. i could easily restore from a vm snapshot. but for that i need to learn linux, another big time sink. add votes here: http://feedback.rackspacecloud.com/forums/71021-product-feedback/suggestion s/989519-create-a-freebsd-image >I haven't have this happen with about 30 servers the last three years >going >from 6 to 7 and to 8, the latter with freebsd-update, rebooting with >GENERIC >and then building a custom kernel. i haven't done so many but i've had good luck with freebsd-update in the past too. but i haven't had the network fail during the process before. and i didn't have the foresight to use screen. i guess using that is a bit like following the admonitions when reflashing your firmware to have a fully charged battery AND be plugged into the wall. perhaps the handbook could suggest it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 15:36:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224B31065672 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:36:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3592B8FC1A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p5B22DF65.dip.t-dialin.net [91.34.223.101]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p2AFamp4093638; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:36:51 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2AFaiUQ097633; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:36:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p2AFaTdF029838; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:36:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201103101536.p2AFaTdF029838@fire.js.berklix.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:14:12 PST." <3A385E2B-76F8-45D0-84F5-7783848BA5EE@mac.com> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:36:29 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Nerius Landys Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:36:58 -0000 Hi questions@, Original question from Nerius Landys : > Basically I have some cash sitting around. I'm thinking of investing > part of it with a company that I believe in. Apple came to mind. You > could say that I'd like to judge Apple's moral character before > investing money with them. Does anyone know how Apple reciprocates to > FreeBSD? After all a lot of MacOSX is borrowed from FreeBSD. I am > not seeing Apple's name on this page: > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml . Are there > other ways in which Apple might be reciprocating? Apple has always enjoyed its dedicated customer base. (Many computer companies have liked to keep users locked, eg Burroughs Algol extensions limiting emigration, IBM PC hardware patents on hardware clones, Microsoft & its tricks, Sun Java being logged, licensed & not anonymous ftp, & mobile phones locked to providers, etc). Apple have used BSD, employed some BSD people, & contributed to whatever, But ... Considering an Apple PDA, I asked questions of an Apple enthusiast ~ 3 months back eg: I'd like to code on FreeBSD, & mabe cross compile, or just vi on FreeBSD then rdist / rsync or nfs + amd mount to my [maybe Apple] slim device, & have ssh rlogin csh/ bash gcc bsd-make, etc on the slim device, & share screens under X etc ... is that possible, free & easy ? Answer received: No, You'd need an Apple with OS cracks that voids the warranty Didn't seem so BSD friendly to me. Disclaimer/Disclosure: I have no past, present, direct, indirect, employment, trade, investment, with Apple or [PDA etc] competitors. ------------- Aside, On Disclaimers:: Chuck Swiger wrote: > Hi-- > > #include > > It wouldn't be considered appropriate for Apple employees or contractors (well, outside of the folks working in investor relations, perhaps) to try to persuade someone to invest in a particular company because of which open source projects Apple might be contributing towards. In another context, someone from Apple who was familiar with those contributions might be free to discuss them, but they would generally be expected to not identify their affiliation with Apple to avoid unduly influencing other people or creating a real or perceived conflict of interest. To not declare affiliation for fear it might tilt perception of recipient, would be misguided. A disclaimer such as "I work for XYZ. I do not speak for XYZ." would suffice. One declares affiliations to be fair to recipients & safeguard oneself. Recipients are informed, can draw their own conclusions, & not roast one for undeclared interest :-). Examples: http://www.ofcom.org.uk/about/how-ofcom-is-run/ofcom-board-2/policy-on-conflicts-of-interest/ Section 6: "PROVIDED ...................... there is full transparency about any such interests." http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld/ldcond/code.pdf P3 "a full list of Members' financial and other interests is published in the Register of Lords' Interests." Probably more here etc: http://www.transparency.org/ http://ethics.senate.gov/fd.htm Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, Not HTML, Not base 64. Reply below text sections not at top, to avoid breaking cumulative context. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 15:56:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A7F106564A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B668FC08 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:56:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.magehandbook.com (powercell.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.100]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D752845B for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:56:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from 152.121.16.253 (SquirrelMail authenticated user daniel) by www.magehandbook.com with HTTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:56:31 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:56:31 -0500 From: "Daniel Staal" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: DStaal@usa.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:56:33 -0000 On Thu, March 10, 2011 8:51 am, Tom Worster wrote: > i think it's deeper than that. they know what they are doing. > > back at the beginning, os x was great. finally a decent, user-friendly gui > on top of a decent unix-like thing, which, oh joy, felt like bsd. for > years, apple improved os x and did some oss work. e.g. webkit is decent > stuff. life was good. ms word in this window, terminal in that one, mysql, > perl, > > then the iphone and the disaster of not having an sdk ready (other than > mobile safari) happened. they wised up and everything changed. > > with ios apple has a strategy to get away from all that openness. they are > steering developers away from the web and portable web apps. so they are > backpedaling on safari and os x as best they can. if they can dominate in > mobile hardware for a while longer they may achieve some serious api > lock-in. then we will be in trouble. it is the same strategy ms used after > they won the browser war with netscape -- they backpedaled on IE, got very > deep windows api lock in, and made a load of money. There's another business reason for it as well, I think: When OS X first came out, Apple was a serious underdog. Nearly out of the game entirely, really. That openness helped them by lowering the cost-to-entry of products, and bringing in any product that already supported the standards. Building on open-source technologies also meant they could pick up something that was pre-written, and well-tested. So they got goodwill, a cheap product, and support from third-parties. All of which were vitally important to a company that was battling for it's life against Microsoft. Now they have recovered, and are a solid contender on the desktop on their own, as well as being the undisputed leader in mobile computing. (iPhone/iPad level mobile, though even their laptops have a greater marketshare than their desktops do.) The only one of those reasons that still really applies is goodwill: They already have their product, and third-parties will always try to support the dominant force in the market. (Because that's where their customers are.) Openness in many ways is now a threat: It means that someone who can create a new system that supports the open standards can grab all of Apple's customers easily. Proprietary lock-in is a better bet, as it means that the customers they have will be less likely to leave. It becomes a pain for them to transfer their stuff out of the proprietary ecosystem. This is actually a typical cycle, both in the industry and for Apple itself. The Apple II series was fairly open, and the Mac series was more closed and closed off further until Apple realized they'd gotten themselves in a bad position. Then they opened up again with OS X. To me, at least, it was fully expected. Apple produces awesome, open products, when they have less than 40% or so marketshare. (Extremely random number there.) Above that level of marketshare, their products are usually awesome, but closed, and the awesomeness may or may not be something you use/want. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 16:39:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C398106564A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720588FC21 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:39:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HUe61g00816AWCUABUf9Rr; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:39:09 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HUf41g0331f6R9u8SUf5Uq; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:39:07 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:39:04 -0800 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:39:04 -0800 From: Charlie Kester To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110310163904.GA79028@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <3633432D-06EA-4AB0-B72A-9967F09D3704@olivent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Mailer: Mutt 1.4.2.3i X-Composer: Vim 7.3 Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:39:09 -0000 On Thu 10 Mar 2011 at 05:51:06 PST Tom Worster wrote: >and as far as investing in corporate stock is concerned, oss virtue >(like environmental virtue or sweat shop virtue) is just so much >marketing blather. a corporation's responsibility is to make money for >its investors. business ethics is and always will be purely >utilitarian. apple has good marketing but don't kid yourself. Unless you're buying newly-minted stock, you aren't giving any money to Apple when you buy shares of AAPL. You're giving money to some other person, who bought the shares a while ago and now wants to cash in. In turn, he might have bought them from another investor. In many cases, you have to go a long way back, sometimes all the way to the IPO, before the money goes to the company. They get money when they issue stock, not when it's traded. What you're doing when you buy stock -- especially stock that pays little or no dividends -- is placing a bet that sometime in the future you'll be able to find someone willing to buy it from you at a higher price than you paid. Moreover, the price of most stocks is determined solely by what people are willing to pay for them. Forget all that noise about sales forecasts, P/E, etc. There is no direct, causal connection between those "fundamentals" and the stock price. They're as pertinent as a baseball player's batting average is to the price of the bubblegum card with his picture on it. You're trading collectibles, and they're subject to the whims of fashion. In summary, I agree with what has been said about contributing to the FreeBSD Foundation if you really want to help the project. It's a much better use of your money. But if you'd rather trade baseball cards, no one's stopping you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 16:57:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FE9106564A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:57:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173188FC14 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:57:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk7 with SMTP id 7so818481gxk.13 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:57:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.135.201 with SMTP id q9mr4321759ict.340.1299776241085; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:57:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from skeletor.feld.me (68-117-126-78.static.mdsn.wi.charter.com [68.117.126.78]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g4sm2386905ick.11.2011.03.10.08.57.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:57:20 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110309233132.GA28666@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:57:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Mark Felder" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20110309233132.GA28666@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.01 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:57:22 -0000 On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:31:32 -0600, Frank Shute wrote: > Apple produces the clusterfuck that is CUPS, I believe. Apple took over the CUPS project. They didn't write it. They're improving it a lot with every major OSX release, so I'm not sure why you're so upset. Apple is the company that is convincing HP, Brother, Lexmark, etc to agree on a common interface for printing, scanning, faxing, etc. They're doing a lot of good in the printing world. Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 17:13:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23907106564A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:13:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D335A8FC12 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:13:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p2AHLmId020967; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:21:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:21:48 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201103101721.p2AHLmId020967@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jhs@berklix.com In-Reply-To: <201103101536.p2AFaTdF029838@fire.js.berklix.net> Cc: nlandys@gmail.com Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:13:12 -0000 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > From: "Julian H. Stacey" > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:36:29 +0100 > Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship > > Aside, On Disclaimers:: > Chuck Swiger wrote: > > Hi-- > > > > #include > > > > It wouldn't be considered appropriate for Apple employees or > > contractors (well, outside of the folks working in investor relations, > > perhaps) to try to persuade someone to invest in a particular company > > because of which open source projects Apple might be contributing > > towards. In another context, someone from Apple who was familiar with > > those contributions might be free to discuss them, but they would > > generally be expected to not identify their affiliation with Apple to > > avoid unduly influencing other people or creating a real or perceived > > conflict of interest. > > To not declare affiliation for fear it might tilt perception of > recipient, would be misguided. A disclaimer such as > "I work for XYZ. I do not speak for XYZ." > would suffice. One declares affiliations to be fair to recipients & > safeguard oneself. Recipients are informed, can draw their own > conclusions, & not roast one for undeclared interest :-). Examples: > > http://www.ofcom.org.uk/about/how-ofcom-is-run/ofcom-board-2/policy-on-c > onflicts-of-interest/ > > Section 6: > "PROVIDED ...................... there is full > transparency about any such interests." Sorry, Julian, but Chuck had it _legally_ correctly, for the U.S.A.. As soon as someone so much as mentions 'investing' in a company, a whole bunch of rather draconian laws kick in about the offering of "investment advice" by someone affiliated with the investment entity. This has become very much of a 'hot button' issue in recent years, with a lot of new, *very*strict* laws being enacted, in part because of some of the recent major investment scandals, like "Enron", "AIG", etc.. Secondly, there is a matter of the 'company policy' of his employer with regard to employees giving 'investment advice' -- even if it is 'on their own time' -- about the company. Even if it isn't against the law, it could easily get him fired, instantly. Almost all publicly held companies (at least in the USA) have an 'investor relations' department, and those are the _only_ employees, other than the CEO, who are authorized give out investment-related information. Further, everything they _do_ give out has been (a) approved by senior management, and (b) 'vetted' by the legal department. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 17:15:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1DD106566B for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:15:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E907C8FC08 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.73]) by qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HV6a1g0041ap0As58VFpat; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:15:49 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HVFi1g00a1f6R9u3iVFj9s; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:15:47 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:15:40 -0800 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:15:40 -0800 From: Charlie Kester To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110310171540.GB79028@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Mailer: Mutt 1.4.2.3i X-Composer: Vim 7.3 Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:15:49 -0000 On Wed 09 Mar 2011 at 14:00:37 PST Nerius Landys wrote: >This is not a technical question. > >Basically I have some cash sitting around. I'm thinking of investing >part of it with a company that I believe in. Apple came to mind. You >could say that I'd like to judge Apple's moral character before >investing money with them. Does anyone know how Apple reciprocates to >FreeBSD? After all a lot of MacOSX is borrowed from FreeBSD. I am >not seeing Apple's name on this page: >http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml . Are there >other ways in which Apple might be reciprocating? If memory serves, they've been heavily involved in the LLVM/Clang project. That said, see my other reply today about what buying stock is really all about. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 17:38:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A66A106566B for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:38:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 6412037195@email.uscc.net) Received: from b.mx.uscc.net (b.mx.uscc.net [166.181.112.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F0B8FC17 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ilscha01-wigdb-01.uscc.com (HELO ilscha01-alusmsdb-02) ([10.119.48.84]) by ilscha01-csnmx-01.uscc.com with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2011 17:07:59 +0000 Message-ID: <16697687.1299777024088.JavaMail.root@ilscha01-alusmsdb-02> From: 6412037195@email.uscc.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:38:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:46:18 +0000 Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:38:09 -0000 Does OpenBSD use the same kernel as FreeBSD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 17:47:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB563106564A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (d80.iso100.no [81.175.61.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E2B8FC12 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.12.4]) (Authenticated sender: svein-listmail) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id 1C7A028 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:47:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D790E97.1010504@stillbilde.net> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:47:03 +0100 From: "Svein Skogen (Listmail account)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <16697687.1299777024088.JavaMail.root@ilscha01-alusmsdb-02> In-Reply-To: <16697687.1299777024088.JavaMail.root@ilscha01-alusmsdb-02> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4D8AA3D5FCC55DABB42EB33B" Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:47:11 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig4D8AA3D5FCC55DABB42EB33B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10.03.2011 18:38, 6412037195@email.uscc.net wrote: > Does OpenBSD use the same kernel as FreeBSD? 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Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ------------------------------------------------------------ Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------enig4D8AA3D5FCC55DABB42EB33B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk15DpwACgkQODUnwSLUlKQDTwCdEn1tODLZSOuRtFUvnsL6ToPd 0AUAoLfM2ugT2saiZsUotv1LjEjTcJtE =jfvl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig4D8AA3D5FCC55DABB42EB33B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 17:51:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F6C106566C for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:51:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@experts-exchange.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [72.29.183.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7041C8FC08 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5F8700EA8; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:51:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=e-e.com; h= user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition:content-type :content-type:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:subject :from:from:date:date:received:received:received; s=ee; t= 1299779490; x=1301593890; bh=m233p8BxWga0t5MAFg+ulrtE1f2Ph+GBCrF ClcTYWow=; b=D+1eCcD7EuK+Uv+olc5Kl2bpp1e85UcqBAH8PCQDYIfoga3HXuD d5gt6ITFYaBR8jLxwrfOp/mLSAmjarvFH973YWil0Z3mfCuacdjI8qw72F6ZDC3G dS8NhslCCg0Be3kMtN6laMoV4+2Cmn3LTEZahmU4x/0pe0uG4m5F3YmA= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at experts-exchange.com Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qdved3GWKzLb; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:51:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from experts-exchange.com (unknown [72.29.180.81]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DA5E5700EAF; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:51:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (nullmailer pid 50599 invoked by uid 1001); Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:48:06 -0000 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:48:06 -0800 From: Jason Helfman To: Tom Worster Message-ID: <20110310174805.GR13527@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <4D78DC93.7000303@ose.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Bas Smeelen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lost network during freebsd-update install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 17:51:31 -0000 On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:24:30AM -0500, Tom Worster thus spake: >On 3/10/11 9:13 AM, "Bas Smeelen" wrote: > >>On 03/10/2011 03:03 PM, Tom Worster wrote: >>>at this stage, i have no remote access. even if i could gain access, i >>>wouldn't know what state it's in or how to proceed. it's probably best >>>now >>>to pay for the hosting company to install 8.1 from cd. >>Well if this is an option. But before paying and with a bit of bad luck >>getting the same problem in 8.1 it would be nice to know what's the cause. >>You do not have remote console access and a way to mount a virtual cdrom? > >no. if i can't ssh then i need local help. i'll ask them to try rollback >before resorting to cd. Good idea. Rollback does work, and has worked for me in a very similar situation, and hopefully will work for you as well. After the rollback, reboot, and start again from your initial upgrade command. I would highly recommend using tmux, and also installing a remote console/management card for your system so you can control it remotely. The cost of the card is probably less than remote-hands cost on one support call. -jgh -- Jason Helfman System Administrator experts-exchange.com http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html E4AD 7CF1 1396 27F6 79DD 4342 5E92 AD66 8C8C FBA5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 18:11:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50909106566C for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:11:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from boyvalue@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289B48FC0A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:11:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg11 with SMTP id 11so409372pvg.13 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:11:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ayZCHn7Sm/o9E6koY5t9yn4EtOXFmlcEFPYOaBR3g/4=; b=bDx7CT/zXxvmxsWtwKQ7XET4Ynw3uvv1/U8iVGjF1FFN0j9GT5BWsbv8QuwNnZP8ty RoQcf+d4cRCgw56fbiN/+foDDGNiVbIktuY6MXOAVkwfnvsN++XswJAekRshlnVVAvQd JjI/T7AdlNmirZ+2ptHFh+zVQmAFjunGaE7fc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=UnRX6blWGnOTmGNJYsQQuA3dNASeukU20sbEIpQHRl1jgwy+VDhVnwVVbWFcPJ71lA AYH/w6fSdbMmAuaGJjKgJ21q1LaXomY7eDqkdobpEy/K/p7Fy+XqN9N0sBvnWhIOJntm qpUZN+o+rlOzTATXqgFrZbdwF1Jqi3wM9GH+w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.13.9 with SMTP id 9mr6801356wfm.86.1299780677562; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:11:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.72.16 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:11:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:11:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: Scott Ballantyne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: ZFS snapshot of root filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:11:18 -0000 Hi, Having a ZFS filesystem on root, such that zfs list shows: zroot with a mountpoint of LEGACY zroot/tmp with a mountpoint of /tmp zroot/usr with a mountpoint of /usr etc. How do I create a snapshot of / ? zfs snapshot zroot/usr@March_10_2011 works fine.. but that snapshots only /usr, not the upper level / right? Thanks a lot. Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 18:25:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B879106566B for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:25:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from boyvalue@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f172.google.com (mail-px0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006E28FC0A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:25:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi6 with SMTP id 6so1371702pxi.17 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:25:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NYzZe9Y3e3Cmutm439Abo092ixOlcp80gtc+ygp6MpY=; b=Lkk/KSREWmKNcfWAqnlfwNdS8FA3zVypw1lR8BnxJpnx3yPzCQZuw7/IT5q+K5+oha IM2IJsZQpsi3mbDlSoV2Mx4WTGSVV/+blttwgWdmyxhZvTUdCq7TjtuNQyMkxueRAeOk UE24YxS+Iqg+K3sLEQjnbXYMeaESRUTAWFekg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=a032czVV68ugmyJJh3078pFLusUby7Ne1HzFz9WhDBPN2nnnF0tokbIBTw7YfqkLGr p05g165Lum9c5XTpc/91OElEHr0kxXPYwz6mkuSoQnClD5gt/qEL8YLPHKWYbumbVdsr lsL/i0u/RINmybe52PJTta0vO/sHDPIVJfO5c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.215.19 with SMTP id n19mr6681175wfg.143.1299781523475; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:25:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.72.16 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:25:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:25:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: Scott Ballantyne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: ZFS snapshot of root filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:25:24 -0000 Following up on my own question: zfs snapshot zroot@MARCH_10_2011 is the way to go. Sorry to trouble you. On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Scott Ballantyne wrote: > Hi, > > Having a ZFS filesystem on root, such that zfs list shows: > > zroot with a mountpoint of LEGACY > zroot/tmp with a mountpoint of /tmp > zroot/usr with a mountpoint of /usr > > etc. > > How do I create a snapshot of / ? > > zfs snapshot zroot/usr@March_10_2011 > > works fine.. but that snapshots only /usr, not the upper level / right? > > Thanks a lot. > Scott > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 18:48:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EB0106567C for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:48:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB47A8FC13 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yie12 with SMTP id 12so886075yie.13 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:48:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.139.228 with SMTP id c64mr1497983yhj.392.1299782889622; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:48:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-216-068.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.216.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j8sm2324231yha.1.2011.03.10.10.48.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:48:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CB5D2E54833 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:48:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:48:05 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110310134805.05e4408a@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20110310163904.GA79028@comcast.net> References: <3633432D-06EA-4AB0-B72A-9967F09D3704@olivent.com> <20110310163904.GA79028@comcast.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:48:11 -0000 On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:39:04 -0800 Charlie Kester articulated: > On Thu 10 Mar 2011 at 05:51:06 PST Tom Worster wrote: > >and as far as investing in corporate stock is concerned, oss virtue > >(like environmental virtue or sweat shop virtue) is just so much > >marketing blather. a corporation's responsibility is to make money > >for its investors. business ethics is and always will be purely > >utilitarian. apple has good marketing but don't kid yourself. > > Unless you're buying newly-minted stock, you aren't giving any money > to Apple when you buy shares of AAPL. You're giving money to some > other person, who bought the shares a while ago and now wants to cash > in. In turn, he might have bought them from another investor. In > many cases, you have to go a long way back, sometimes all the way to > the IPO, before the money goes to the company. They get money when > they issue stock, not when it's traded. > > What you're doing when you buy stock -- especially stock that pays > little or no dividends -- is placing a bet that sometime in the future > you'll be able to find someone willing to buy it from you at a higher > price than you paid. > > Moreover, the price of most stocks is determined solely by what people > are willing to pay for them. Forget all that noise about sales > forecasts, P/E, etc. There is no direct, causal connection between > those "fundamentals" and the stock price. They're as pertinent as a > baseball player's batting average is to the price of the bubblegum > card with his picture on it. You're trading collectibles, and > they're subject to the whims of fashion. > > In summary, I agree with what has been said about contributing to the > FreeBSD Foundation if you really want to help the project. It's a > much better use of your money. But if you'd rather trade baseball > cards, no one's stopping you. Actually, if the individual buys stock, and there are different types, the purchaser has a possibility of making a profit on his investment. If the stock loses money, there is a real possibility of a tax write off. However, if he donates it to a properly certified organization for a tax write off, then that is all that they will ever receive. If the investor has no use for his money other than creating a tax write off, then that is fine. Of course, we have to keep in mind that the OP did not disclose a specific figure for his investment nor his income bracket, so everything is basically speculation as to what monetary help investing or donating would have on his financial health. He would probably be well advise to see a professional tax consultant prior to following either avenue. Personally, I donate to the Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center. I find donating money to help find a cure for a disease or aid those that have all ready contracted it far more satisfying that giving it away to a foundation in the hopes that someday, perhaps they will write a functioning driver for a wireless N device. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ It is always the best policy to tell the truth, unless, of course, you are an exceptionally good liar. Jerome K. Jerome From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 18:53:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656EC1065675 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:53:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terje@elde.net) Received: from keepquiet.net (keepquiet.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:130:84c1::deaf:babe]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299C88FC1A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:53:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.130.10.194] (cm-84.209.214.220.getinternet.no [84.209.214.220]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: terje@elde.net) by keepquiet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F048D2E146; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:53:13 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: Terje Elde In-Reply-To: <16697687.1299777024088.JavaMail.root@ilscha01-alusmsdb-02> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:53:12 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <16697687.1299777024088.JavaMail.root@ilscha01-alusmsdb-02> To: 6412037195@email.uscc.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:53:15 -0000 On 10. mars 2011, at 18.38, 6412037195@email.uscc.net wrote: > Does OpenBSD use the same kernel as FreeBSD? I think your question about the relationship between *nixes can best be = answered by a 4487=E2=80=86=C3=97=E2=80=8629437 diagram, which can be = found in several formats here: http://www.unix-diagram.org/ Terje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 18:53:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D245106566C for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39AF8FC13 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:53:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy1 with SMTP id 1so712826ewy.13 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:53:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.50.73 with SMTP id y49mr5778882eeb.22.1299783227476; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:53:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.119.1 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:53:47 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.209] In-Reply-To: References: <20110309233132.GA28666@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:53:47 -0800 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:53:49 -0000 On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Mark Felder wrote: > On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:31:32 -0600, Frank Shute wrote: > >> Apple produces the clusterfuck that is CUPS, I believe. > > > Apple took over the CUPS project. They didn't write it. They're improving it > a lot with every major OSX release, so I'm not sure why you're so upset. I think a lot of the hate for CUPS here is NIH syndrome. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 19:04:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DA8106564A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2C28FC19 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2011 14:03:59 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.2.3-GA) with ESMTP id AYS11332; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:03:57 -0500 Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=209.6.91.204; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=mailfrom; client-ip=209.6.91.204; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=209.6.91.204; receiver=smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net; envelope-from="roberthuff@rcn.com"; x-sender="postmaster@jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2011 14:03:58 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19833.8348.871314.774299@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:03:56 -0500 To: David Brodbeck In-Reply-To: References: <20110309233132.GA28666@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:04:00 -0000 David Brodbeck writes: > >> Apple produces the clusterfuck that is CUPS, I believe. > > > > Apple took over the CUPS project. They didn't write it. They're > > improving it a lot with every major OSX release, so I'm not > > sure why you're so upset. > > I think a lot of the hate for CUPS here is NIH syndrome. In my case, the "hate" is caused by the difficulty in configuration and trouble-shooting (and of course the related documentation mega-fail). Beyond that, it seems to work as advertised. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 18:54:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EFF1065692 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:54:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vfemail.net) Received: from vfemail.net (dotsevenfive.vfemail.net [69.11.239.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587B68FC1A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:54:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3583 invoked by uid 89); 10 Mar 2011 18:54:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO freequeue.vfemail.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Mar 2011 18:54:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 3557 invoked by uid 89); 10 Mar 2011 18:54:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www-52-2.vfemail.net) (vfemail@172.16.100.52) by FreeQueue with SMTP; 10 Mar 2011 18:54:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 84709 invoked by uid 89); 10 Mar 2011 18:54:17 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 84703, pid: 84706, t: 0.1445s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO Bacchus.vfemail.net) (cGV0ZXJAdmZlbWFpbC5uZXQ=@67.101.12.44) by 172.16.100.52 with ESMTPA; 10 Mar 2011 18:54:17 -0000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:53:51 -0500 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: peter@vfemail.net In-Reply-To: <0A2D7DF01CEBB144ACA1A79F588BD239044CE0AE65B4@SQUIRRELSERVE R.nvita.org> References: <20110309152546.54D93106564A@hub.freebsd.org> <201103092006.p29K664k013470@mail.r-bonomi.com> <7.1.0.9.2.20110309150206.1ed21c20@vfemail.net> <20110309204107.49F37106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <0A2D7DF01CEBB144ACA1A79F588BD239044CE0AE65B4@SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <20110310185434.A5EFF1065692@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:17:57 +0000 Subject: RE: Nonsensical Web Log Entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:54:34 -0000 I had to change fxp0 to xl0, but that tcpdump command is very cool, very instructive and very reassuring. Thank you. -------- At 05:57 PM 3/9/2011, Michael J. Kearney wrote: >I don't know if I got through the last time but you ... could... add to but not take away from your operational matrices by writing it to a file. Using tcpdump to anylize the traffic on your webserver, It might clear up some of the confusion. > >tcpdump -i fxp0 -nN -vvv -xX -s 1500 port 80 > fale > >You can also read some of the output data. > >Eg, here are some of my logs: > >168.216.29.89 - - [09/Mar/2011:08:49:15 -0500] "GET /index.php?domain=fixitbot&tld=com&lookup=%3E%3E HTTP/1.1" 200 5413 "-" "Mozilla >/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)" > >The query is 8,223 bytes and logged as 5,413 bytes ? > >The only logical concusion is that the header data is false. Unfortunately the RAW data does not reveal anything more than that. Maybe you will have better luck .. and p.s. I was hanging out with my android earlier, I hope this helps. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of peter@vfemail.net >Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:40 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Nonsensical Web Log Entries > >At 03:02 PM 3/9/2011, peter@vfemail.net wrote: >>At 03:06 PM 3/9/2011, Robert Bonomi wrote: >>>> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 10:40:23 2011 >>>> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:57:03 -0500 >>>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>> From: peter@vfemail.net >>>> Subject: Nonsensical Web Log Entries >>>> >>>> >>>> I was looking at my Web log this morning, and a bunch of nonsensical >>>> entries like these caught my attention: >>>> >>>> 124.226.181.80 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:49:58 -0500] "GET http://www.yahoo.com/ HTTP/1.0" 301 294 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; > MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >>>> 123.10.97.102 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:01 -0500] "GET http://makeabank.com/faq.cgi HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >>>> 115.225.166.2 - > - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:04 -0500] "GET http://join1.winhundred.com/affiliate/link.php?ref=35840&productid=7178 HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "http://www.wingclips.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; > MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >>>> 114.97.197.184 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:15 -0500] "GET http://www.tosunmail.com/proxyheader.php HTTP/1.0" 301 313 "http://www.cashsoldier.com/VerifyerLevel.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >>>> >>>> Is my FreeBSD box serving as some kind of Web proxy? >>> >>>Your box is _not_ doing the proxying. that's why it's signalling errors >>>for those requests. >>> >>>The perpetrators are _hoping_ you are running a misconfigured proxying front- >>>end. >> >>Does this entry change your conclusion: >> >> 188.134.62.20 - - [09/Mar/2011:12:15:04 -0500] "GET http://images.google.com/ HTTP/1.1" 200 13134 "-" "-" >> > >Here's another entry that's too bizarre for words: > > 218.172.209.123 - - [09/Mar/2011:15:38:29 -0500] "\x16\x03\x01" 200 13107 "-" "-" > > > >------------------------------------------------- >This message sent via VFEmail.net >http://www.vfemail.net >$14.95 Lifetime accounts! 15GB disk! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 19:27:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23AC1065677 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:27:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621148FC1A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so928612yxl.13 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:27:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.146.59.21 with SMTP id h21mr8595216yaa.3.1299785242387; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:27:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-216-068.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.216.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u20sm690519anu.34.2011.03.10.11.27.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:27:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B1235E54833 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:27:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:27:18 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110310142718.32e0f62a@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <20110309233132.GA28666@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:27:23 -0000 On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:53:47 -0800 David Brodbeck articulated: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Mark Felder wrote: > > On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:31:32 -0600, Frank Shute > > wrote: > > > >> Apple produces the clusterfuck that is CUPS, I believe. > > > > > > Apple took over the CUPS project. They didn't write it. They're > > improving it a lot with every major OSX release, so I'm not sure > > why you're so upset. > > I think a lot of the hate for CUPS here is NIH syndrome. Seriously, it goes way, way beyond CUPS. Just look at the debauchery regarding a HAL replacement. Instead of the different distros creating a uniform replacement, they are each intent on reinventing the wheel with their own implementation. In the end, nobody gains and the status quo per se remains as fragmented as ever. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ It is always the best policy to tell the truth, unless, of course, you are an exceptionally good liar. Jerome K. Jerome From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 19:35:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334F71065678 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:35:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D28A78FC16 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HXVZ1g0030EZKEL5AXbiLu; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:35:42 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HXbe1g01S1f6R9u3MXbffU; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:35:41 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:35:36 -0800 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:35:36 -0800 From: Charlie Kester To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110310193536.GC79028@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <3633432D-06EA-4AB0-B72A-9967F09D3704@olivent.com> <20110310163904.GA79028@comcast.net> <20110310134805.05e4408a@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110310134805.05e4408a@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Mailer: Mutt 1.4.2.3i X-Composer: Vim 7.3 Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:35:42 -0000 On Thu 10 Mar 2011 at 10:48:05 PST Jerry wrote: >On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:39:04 -0800 >Charlie Kester articulated: > >> On Thu 10 Mar 2011 at 05:51:06 PST Tom Worster wrote: >> >and as far as investing in corporate stock is concerned, oss virtue >> >(like environmental virtue or sweat shop virtue) is just so much >> >marketing blather. a corporation's responsibility is to make money >> >for its investors. business ethics is and always will be purely >> >utilitarian. apple has good marketing but don't kid yourself. >> >> Unless you're buying newly-minted stock, you aren't giving any money >> to Apple when you buy shares of AAPL. You're giving money to some >> other person, who bought the shares a while ago and now wants to cash >> in. In turn, he might have bought them from another investor. In >> many cases, you have to go a long way back, sometimes all the way to >> the IPO, before the money goes to the company. They get money when >> they issue stock, not when it's traded. >> >> What you're doing when you buy stock -- especially stock that pays >> little or no dividends -- is placing a bet that sometime in the future >> you'll be able to find someone willing to buy it from you at a higher >> price than you paid. >> >> Moreover, the price of most stocks is determined solely by what people >> are willing to pay for them. Forget all that noise about sales >> forecasts, P/E, etc. There is no direct, causal connection between >> those "fundamentals" and the stock price. They're as pertinent as a >> baseball player's batting average is to the price of the bubblegum >> card with his picture on it. You're trading collectibles, and >> they're subject to the whims of fashion. >> >> In summary, I agree with what has been said about contributing to the >> FreeBSD Foundation if you really want to help the project. It's a >> much better use of your money. But if you'd rather trade baseball >> cards, no one's stopping you. > >Actually, if the individual buys stock, and there are different types, >the purchaser has a possibility of making a profit on his investment. I certainly wouldn't deny this. I said as much, when I talked about finding a buyer willing to pay more for the shares than you did. There are other ways to profit, as you've pointed out. I don't deny those either. My main point was that buying stock is usually an ineffective way to support a company that is doing something you like. At best, by bidding up the stock price, you increase the value of the portfolios held by the company's executives and board members. But whether they will interpret that increase in their wealth as a signal that they should do more of what you like is the big question. In Apple's case, I think they would be more likely to see it as a reason to do more of the proprietary and immensely profitable kind of things they've been doing with the iPhone. Giving the money to the FreeBSD Foundation sends a clearer signal about how you want it spent. Especially if you earmark it for a specific project. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 19:40:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40FF106566B for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462A98FC14 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so387395fxm.13 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:40:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=CNeAXRER1cAIJtxVqMrWfz6/vWsNEcDqhxiShYRBwkY=; b=MTs7Vz94E0a8lqqrubErJVtuKwifW7CYy0Exdai0yumXzjRyq89fU0W+uCGICyY63y nWwKg7jTofr6nfKmuneDtXwfcv0T7ZeZIaA1ytz4JBwHpc8E8Th9S4aHAxlYnZ7dXxJk FSJPowr2P355dTVX7C56yZQW5Gbe3MjKgb35c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=dtesv/6vRBxOoMDeVszPx7GOxT8ByuOVuVzvneHgzoNjoaTOVm7eUWoJTnXXN+fweJ 5Arw4snrHYVGbYJ8Hz6xKVo2+gqjf90wJ+eJevHC8CrneJMead+z8xgFzSj1/YceBbiJ ZUeDHe7bfRhm7Zh38EC+t353fKOt0J0xknisM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.83.130 with SMTP id f2mr35802fal.80.1299785988053; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:39:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.59.7 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:39:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110310193536.GC79028@comcast.net> References: <3633432D-06EA-4AB0-B72A-9967F09D3704@olivent.com> <20110310163904.GA79028@comcast.net> <20110310134805.05e4408a@scorpio> <20110310193536.GC79028@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:39:47 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Charlie Kester Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:40:37 -0000 On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Charlie Kester wrote: > Especially if you earmark it for a specific > project. You can't do that via a donation to the FreeBSD Foundation, only offer a suggestion. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 19:45:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565FF1065672 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:45:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F7EC8FC18 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:45:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21309 invoked by uid 0); 10 Mar 2011 19:45:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2011 19:45:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=LtKWiNYcTIWF7eDwO3UlurwqKK02ZRrr8fLeJuMy1Edizlz/HBnWyB/c/Nmc7BrRYy3y6d+GXg9cimOfN8XEFrVbiw6oKlAQPOpi5hWFwpYAEoyP3npoQ25r4k9A95nB; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pxlnr-0005n4-Bh for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:45:44 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:34:21 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:34:21 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110310193421.GA80771@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <3633432D-06EA-4AB0-B72A-9967F09D3704@olivent.com> <20110310163904.GA79028@comcast.net> <20110310134805.05e4408a@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110310134805.05e4408a@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:45:45 -0000 --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 01:48:05PM -0500, Jerry wrote: >=20 > Personally, I donate to the Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center. I find > donating money to help find a cure for a disease or aid those that have > all ready contracted it far more satisfying that giving it away to a > foundation in the hopes that someday, perhaps they will write a > functioning driver for a wireless N device. On the other hand, as computing technology continues to advance at an accelerating rate, we will increasingly see such technology serving an ever-more important role in reasearch within innumerable fields, including cancer research. Consider an analogy that should be familiar with sysadmins everywhere: You need to do something two or three times a day. To accomplish this task, you make a change to a configuration file, then issue a command like /etc/rc.d/foo restart. There are three possible changes you might need to make to the configuration file. It'll take you about twenty seconds to make the change, and another three to five seconds to issue that command and wait for the service to restart. You could spend up to twenty-five seconds for all this to happen, or you could write a script that takes a single argument specifying which of three edits you want to apply to the config file and, after making that change, restarts the service in question. This entire process of writing the script takes about five minutes, plus three to five to run your new script. Five minutes and five seconds is a lot longer than twenty-five seconds. . . . but your sum total time spent on each subsequent occasion is only that five seconds. By spending four and a half minutes or so up front, you save yourself (conservatively estimating) about five minutes within three weeks. This is what automation buys us -- and automation is what computers provide . . . very *easy* automation. I've rambled on about this subject to some extent in another venue: Code Reuse and Technological Advancement http://blogstrapping.com/?page=3D2011.060.00.28.21 My point, though, is sipmle. Initial investment in something that is not direct work on a goal that is important to you can, if it helps to automate the tasks that *do* work directly toward that goal, is often the wisest investment toward that end. This is why we have admin scripts instead of doing everything by hand every time. It is also why, all else being equal, I prefer to invest in the advancement of computing technology rather than picking and choosing between other things that are important to me (including research in cancer and Alzheimer's medical fields). Just as the script in my hypothetical example above automates not one, but *three* different (but related) use cases, investing in computing technology provides greater research leverage in not one, but *many* other fields. More to the point, because of some of the realities of code reuse as described in the above-mentioned essay *Code Reuse and Technological Advancement*, I make a point of focusing my efforts on copyfree licensed software such as the (majority of) the FreeBSD project. Your mileage may vary. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk15J70ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUULACgoVFOni+/P1fNjhtu4MCWZzzA uo0AoIZtqAcKf9eJwcNkIYK2b+ysMBay =5Dou -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 19:49:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 269F91065670 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:49:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dteske@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor.com (postoffice.vicor.com [69.26.56.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AC08FC18 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:49:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.82.228.128] (port=64067) by postoffice.vicor.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.74) (envelope-from ) id 1Pxlrs-0003JY-CC; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:49:54 -0800 From: Devin Teske To: Terje Elde In-Reply-To: References: <16697687.1299777024088.JavaMail.root@ilscha01-alusmsdb-02> Organization: VICOR, Inc. Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:48:42 +0000 Message-ID: <1299786522.47040.27.camel@dt.vicor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 X-Scan-Signature: c7cf91bbb2f2f639a364caba2f569af4 X-Scan-Host: postoffice.vicor.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: 6412037195@email.uscc.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:49:21 -0000 On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 19:53 +0100, Terje Elde wrote: > On 10. mars 2011, at 18.38, 6412037195@email.uscc.net wrote: > > Does OpenBSD use the same kernel as FreeBSD? >=20 > I think your question about the relationship between *nixes can best be a= nswered by a 4487=E2=80=86=C3=97=E2=80=8629437 diagram, which can be found = in several formats here: >=20 > http://www.unix-diagram.org/ or this one: http://www.levenez.com/unix/ -- Devin >=20 > Terje >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 20:45:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D981065672 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:45:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nzp@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [204.13.164.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1993F8FC08 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:45:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from auk.riseup.net (auk-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4764C25F6AA for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:25:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: nzp@auk.riseup.net) with ESMTPSA id EACEB4D04 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:25:45 +0100 From: Nikola =?utf-8?B?UGF2bG92acSH?= To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110310202545.GB32905@sputnjik.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at mx1 X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:45:27 -0000 On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 02:00:37PM -0800, Nerius Landys wrote: > This is not a technical question. > > Basically I have some cash sitting around. I'm thinking of investing > part of it with a company that I believe in. Apple came to mind. You > could say that I'd like to judge Apple's moral character before > investing money with them. A public company can't really have moral character. They are required to do whatever it takes to maximize profit for it's shareholders regardless of any moral considerations. Any ethical behaviour a public company may or may not display is determined by law and/or PR requirements. What I'm trying to say is that expecting a public company to be somehow inherently ethical or unethical is unreasonable (except Google and Facebook, of course, they're evil :D) > Does anyone know how Apple reciprocates to > FreeBSD? After all a lot of MacOSX is borrowed from FreeBSD. I am > not seeing Apple's name on this page: > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/sponsors.shtml . Are there > other ways in which Apple might be reciprocating? > As far as I'm aware their free/open source software contributions are not strictly FreeBSD specific, but FreeBSD does benefit. Off the top of my head, there's the Grand Central Dispatch framework which got ported to FreeBSD, and the LLVM/Clang which will soon replace GCC as the system compiler in FreeBSD (both very cool stuff). I'd say that if your investment criterion is "how much is company X giving back to the community", you could do a lot worse than Apple. Since you say you want to *invest* I won't try to persuade you to donate to the FreeBSD Foundation ;). -- No one should have to wait until after ten o'clock for his english muffin! -- Snoopy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 20:23:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA8210656D2 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:23:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkearney@nvita.org) Received: from squirrelserver.nvita.org (nvita.org [173.10.132.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA5C8FC19 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org ([192.168.0.3]) by SQUIRRELSERVER.nvita.org ([192.168.0.3]) with mapi; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:33:43 -0500 From: "Michael J. Kearney" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:33:37 -0500 Thread-Topic: Nonsensical Web Log Entries Thread-Index: AcvfWYAD7+h1UEKRQNKUQNWBPOstZgACO9iK Message-ID: <6e1mefd4hyttote912acah2p.1299788054452@email.android.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:49:36 +0000 Subject: RE: Nonsensical Web Log Entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:23:30 -0000 How is your research going along? No harm no foul, right? Did you find what= you had expected to find or some other anomoly? I'm stuck with these packe= ts trying to reverse engineer the software that rendered them... lol "peter@vfemail.net" wrote: I had to change fxp0 to xl0, but that tcpdump command is very cool, very in= structive and very reassuring. Thank you. -------- At 05:57 PM 3/9/2011, Michael J. Kearney wrote: >I don't know if I got through the last time but you ... could... add to bu= t not take away from your operational matrices by writing it to a file. Usi= ng tcpdump to anylize the traffic on your webserver, It might clear up some= of the confusion. > >tcpdump -i fxp0 -nN -vvv -xX -s 1500 port 80 > fale > >You can also read some of the output data. > >Eg, here are some of my logs: > >168.216.29.89 - - [09/Mar/2011:08:49:15 -0500] "GET /index.php?domain=3Dfi= xitbot&tld=3Dcom&lookup=3D%3E%3E HTTP/1.1" 200 5413 "-" "Mozilla >/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)" > >The query is 8,223 bytes and logged as 5,413 bytes ? > >The only logical concusion is that the header data is false. Unfortunately= the RAW data does not reveal anything more than that. Maybe you will have = better luck .. and p.s. I was hanging out with my android earlier, I hope t= his helps. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@= freebsd.org] On Behalf Of peter@vfemail.net >Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:40 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Nonsensical Web Log Entries > >At 03:02 PM 3/9/2011, peter@vfemail.net wrote: >>At 03:06 PM 3/9/2011, Robert Bonomi wrote: >>>> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 10:40:23 2011 >>>> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:57:03 -0500 >>>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>> From: peter@vfemail.net >>>> Subject: Nonsensical Web Log Entries >>>> >>>> >>>> I was looking at my Web log this morning, and a bunch of nonsensical >>>> entries like these caught my attention: >>>> >>>> 124.226.181.80 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:49:58 -0500] "GET http://www.yahoo.= com/ HTTP/1.0" 301 294 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; > MSIE 6.0; Windows NT= 5.1; SV1)" >>>> 123.10.97.102 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:01 -0500] "GET http://makeabank.c= om/faq.cgi HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windo= ws NT 5.1; SV1)" >>>> 115.225.166.2 - > - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:04 -0500] "GET http://join1.win= hundred.com/affiliate/link.php?ref=3D35840&productid=3D7178 HTTP/1.0" 404 3= 485 "http://www.wingclips.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; > MSIE 6.0; Windo= ws NT 5.1; SV1)" >>>> 114.97.197.184 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:15 -0500] "GET http://www.tosunm= ail.com/proxyheader.php HTTP/1.0" 301 313 "http://www.cashsoldier.com/Verif= yerLevel.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >>>> >>>> Is my FreeBSD box serving as some kind of Web proxy? >>> >>>Your box is _not_ doing the proxying. that's why it's signalling errors >>>for those requests. >>> >>>The perpetrators are _hoping_ you are running a misconfigured proxying f= ront- >>>end. >> >>Does this entry change your conclusion: >> >> 188.134.62.20 - - [09/Mar/2011:12:15:04 -0500] "GET http://images.go= ogle.com/ HTTP/1.1" 200 13134 "-" "-" >> > >Here's another entry that's too bizarre for words: > > 218.172.209.123 - - [09/Mar/2011:15:38:29 -0500] "\x16\x03\x01" 200 1= 3107 "-" "-" > > > >------------------------------------------------- >This message sent via VFEmail.net >http://www.vfemail.net >$14.95 Lifetime accounts! 15GB disk! 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No bandwidth quotas! _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 20:55:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764721065678 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:55:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FF18FC16 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:55:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 10090388; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:55:37 -0500 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 10090386 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:55:23 -0500 Message-ID: <4D792CAB.5020401@radel.com> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 14:55:23 -0500 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3633432D-06EA-4AB0-B72A-9967F09D3704@olivent.com> <20110310163904.GA79028@comcast.net> <20110310134805.05e4408a@scorpio> <20110310193536.GC79028@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:55:38 -0000 On 3/10/11 2:39 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Charlie Kesterwrote: > >> Especially if you earmark it for a specific >> project. > > > You can't do that via a donation to the FreeBSD Foundation, only offer a > suggestion. > If the amount of money is large enough, I strongly suspect you could negotiate an exception to that.... -- --Jon Radel jon@radel.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 21:13:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B241065672 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4988FC16 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5BC89E80450; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:13:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:13:07 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Foo JH Message-ID: <20110310211307.GA677@thought.org> References: <20110310012331.GA10189@thought.org> <4D782B8D.1000002@extracktor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D782B8D.1000002@extracktor.com> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: using dovecot, where is ICOMING mail stored? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:13:08 -0000 On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 09:38:21AM +0800, Foo JH wrote: > On 3/10/2011 9:23 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > >Does anybody know about this obscure stuff? > Disclaimer: I don't really know much about dovecot, except that it's > a much better IMAP daemon than courier - I don't think dovecot > handles SMTP: in other words it does not handle incoming mails. > > What services did you enable on dovecot? > Nothing; zero. Since I did not set it up [ with sendmail ], I just let it do it's thing. I use mutt mostly; evolution for GUI use; there is some SMTP interface between evo and dovecot. Since this has worked for three years, I've just relied on it .... gary PS: There is zero excuse for my ignoranance, so if there any any pages that explain this, please clue me in if you have time. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 21:36:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36674106566C for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:36:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAE88FC14 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:36:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 47794E80450; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:36:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:36:45 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110310213645.GB677@thought.org> References: <20110310012331.GA10189@thought.org> <20110310130343.GC2301@catflap.slightlystrange.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110310130343.GC2301@catflap.slightlystrange.org> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: Re: using dovecot, where is ICOMING mail stored? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:36:46 -0000 On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 01:03:43PM +0000, Daniel Bye wrote: > On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 05:23:34PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > Does anybody know about this obscure stuff? > > [[ ... ]] > > If you haven't changed the dovecot config file, look in it for the > mail_location setting. For example, mine is set to: > > mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir > > From what you say above, about backups of ~/Maildir, I would expect you to > find something very similar. > > If that's not what you find, try looking in the location it does point to. > If you still have no luck, look at your SMTP server's config and figure out > how it handles local deliveries. For example, my exim install is set up to > send messages for local delivery through a pipe to the maildrop program, > which in turn delivers them to folders under my ~/Maildir according to my > filtering rules. By SMTP ["Simple"??] I'm guessing you are referring to my sendmail. Yes?/no? I've always considered sendmail as a transport agent, period. I have poked around in /etc/mail and wasn't sure what to look for. I can grep -r and find the dovecot config. I haven't touched it. I did try pointing mutt -f at my saved backup /usr/tmp/.../Maildir. Nothing. My copies of saved mail are there, but not what was in the unread queue. I was testing out mutt from a laptop and that has to have been when I accidentially deleted stuff. Too bad there isn't a page on "howto set up a mailserver" ... for dimwits gary > > Good luck! > > Dan > > -- > Daniel Bye > _ > ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) > - against HTML, vCards and X > - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 21:09:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34510106564A for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:09:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vfemail.net) Received: from vfemail.net (dotsevenfive.vfemail.net [69.11.239.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6F58FC08 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:09:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 40486 invoked by uid 89); 10 Mar 2011 21:09:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO freequeue.vfemail.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Mar 2011 21:09:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 40428 invoked by uid 89); 10 Mar 2011 21:09:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www-52-2.vfemail.net) (vfemail@172.16.100.52) by FreeQueue with SMTP; 10 Mar 2011 21:09:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 68255 invoked by uid 89); 10 Mar 2011 21:09:22 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 68248, pid: 68252, t: 0.1982s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO Bacchus.vfemail.net) (cGV0ZXJAdmZlbWFpbC5uZXQ=@67.101.12.44) by 172.16.100.52 with ESMTPA; 10 Mar 2011 21:09:22 -0000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:08:39 -0500 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: peter@vfemail.net In-Reply-To: <6e1mefd4hyttote912acah2p.1299788054452@email.android.com> References: <6e1mefd4hyttote912acah2p.1299788054452@email.android.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <20110310210940.34510106564A@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 22:24:00 +0000 Subject: RE: Nonsensical Web Log Entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:09:40 -0000 I'm still kind of confused about why Apache doesn't say "what in the world are you talking about" when these bizarre requests arrive, but there's no indication that anything untoward is occurring. Perhaps newer versions do. I'm using what's probably a really old installation. -------- At 03:33 PM 3/10/2011, Michael J. Kearney wrote: >How is your research going along? No harm no foul, right? Did you find what you had expected to find or some other anomoly? I'm stuck with these packets trying to reverse engineer the software that rendered them... lol > >"peter@vfemail.net" wrote: > > >I had to change fxp0 to xl0, but that tcpdump command is very cool, very instructive and very reassuring. Thank you. > >-------- > > >At 05:57 PM 3/9/2011, Michael J. Kearney wrote: >>I don't know if I got through the last time but you ... could... add to but not take away from your operational matrices by writing it to a file. Using tcpdump to anylize the traffic on your webserver, It might clear up some of the confusion. >> >>tcpdump -i fxp0 -nN -vvv -xX -s 1500 port 80 > fale >> >>You can also read some of the output data. >> >>Eg, here are some of my logs: >> >>168.216.29.89 - - [09/Mar/2011:08:49:15 -0500] "GET /index.php?domain=fixitbot&tld=com&lookup=%3E%3E HTTP/1.1" 200 5413 "-" "Mozilla >>/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)" >> >>The query is 8,223 bytes and logged as 5,413 bytes ? >> >>The only logical concusion is that the header data is false. Unfortunately the RAW data does not reveal anything more than that. Maybe you will have better luck .. and p.s. I was hanging out with my android earlier, I hope this helps. >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of peter@vfemail.net >>Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:40 PM >>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>Subject: Re: Nonsensical Web Log Entries >> >>At 03:02 PM 3/9/2011, peter@vfemail.net wrote: >>>At 03:06 PM 3/9/2011, Robert Bonomi wrote: >>>>> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 9 10:40:23 2011 >>>>> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:57:03 -0500 >>>>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>>> From: peter@vfemail.net >>>>> Subject: Nonsensical Web Log Entries >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I was looking at my Web log this morning, and a bunch of nonsensical >>>>> entries like these caught my attention: >>>>> >>>>> 124.226.181.80 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:49:58 -0500] "GET http://www.yahoo.com/ HTTP/1.0" 301 294 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; > MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >>>>> 123.10.97.102 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:01 -0500] "GET http://makeabank.com/faq.cgi HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >>>>> 115.225.166.2 - > - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:04 -0500] "GET http://join1.winhundred.com/affiliate/link.php?ref=35840&productid=7178 HTTP/1.0" 404 3485 "http://www.wingclips.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; > MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >>>>> 114.97.197.184 - - [09/Mar/2011:09:50:15 -0500] "GET http://www.tosunmail.com/proxyheader.php HTTP/1.0" 301 313 "http://www.cashsoldier.com/VerifyerLevel.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)" >>>>> >>>>> Is my FreeBSD box serving as some kind of Web proxy? >>>> >>>>Your box is _not_ doing the proxying. that's why it's signalling errors >>>>for those requests. >>>> >>>>The perpetrators are _hoping_ you are running a misconfigured proxying front- >>>>end. >>> >>>Does this entry change your conclusion: >>> >>> 188.134.62.20 - - [09/Mar/2011:12:15:04 -0500] "GET http://images.google.com/ HTTP/1.1" 200 13134 "-" "-" >>> >> >>Here's another entry that's too bizarre for words: >> >> 218.172.209.123 - - [09/Mar/2011:15:38:29 -0500] "\x16\x03\x01" 200 13107 "-" "-" >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------- >>This message sent via VFEmail.net >>http://www.vfemail.net >>$14.95 Lifetime accounts! 15GB disk! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 22:42:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3689A1065675 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 22:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avstin@mail.ru) Received: from f151.mail.ru (f151.mail.ru [217.69.128.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07FF8FC13 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 22:42:33 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ru; s=mail; h=Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Reply-To:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Mime-Version:Subject:To:From; bh=4wWtgiRBQmgQVcip7Wb6lmDWlqWkjAgNAl3RYYSHPrA=; b=J3LK2roo24Y8Gn8+GGreqr/j0QftG4Yfg+nFQQE+XIkRHLnOYwblAv/KJL4P+2yahM/7OaI2JIpR0ps4rnZ0W4xLO93HijepAZW+l9r6FShIfBcXIyOsPol0pIRbTzEw; Received: from mail by f151.mail.ru with local id 1PxoYy-0007ux-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:42:32 +0300 Received: from [71.127.143.216] by e.mail.ru with HTTP; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:42:32 +0300 From: =?utf-8?Q?=D0=90=D0=B2=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BD_=D0=9A=D0=B8=D0=BC?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: [71.127.143.216] Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:42:32 +0300 References: <16697687.1299777024088.JavaMail.root@ilscha01-alusmsdb-02> <1299786522.47040.27.camel@dt.vicor.com> In-Reply-To: <1299786522.47040.27.camel@dt.vicor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: Ok Subject: Re[2]: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?utf-8?Q?=D0=90=D0=B2=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BD_=D0=9A=D0=B8=D0=BC?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 22:42:34 -0000 Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:48:42 +0000 письмо от Devin Teske : > On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 19:53 +0100, Terje Elde wrote: > > > On 10. mars 2011, at 18.38, 6412037195@email.uscc.net wrote: > > > Does OpenBSD use the same kernel as FreeBSD? > > > > I think your question about the relationship between *nixes can best be > answered by a 4487 × 29437 diagram, which can be found in several formats > here: > > > > http://www.unix-diagram.org/ > > > or this one: > http://www.levenez.com/unix/ > -- > Devin > > > > > > > > Terje ...or if you want a version with references and/or be running a FreeBSD server without a GUI, there is of course:) /usr/share/misc/bsd-family-tree From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 00:10:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E281106566B for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00658FC22 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-114-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.114.16]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B331E1E9; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:10:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p2B0AMx7002544; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:10:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:10:22 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Bas Smeelen Message-Id: <20110311011022.801208c0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4D78C832.6050301@ose.nl> References: <4D782C8D.3020102@extracktor.com> <1299728031.72606.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> <4D78804B.4040406@ose.nl> <1299756900.73766.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> <4D78C832.6050301@ose.nl> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:10:25 -0000 On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:46:42 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: > Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a > regular basis? > Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications) > on these servers, because it can give you a lot of time, work e.g. > unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating. I would suggest that, too. Allow me to point out a new perspective of the way of use: GUI forces you to work in a linear way and pay extra attention. You cannot automate it. Depending on what your primary intention is, using CLI tools to get rid of "hands on" work may be a better choice. This approach of course assumes that you actually KNOW what you're doing, but that's a main requirement for any administrator. :-) > Webmin is a good GUI progam (from client perspective) for administering > your servers, it just runs in your clients webbrowser and you can administer > almost every aspect of your servers with it. That's true, but it brings new security risks to the system. Also keep in mind that using a web browser limits your accessibility to what the browser can do (and the Webmin can support), e. g. you may be faster using a shell with patterns and autocompletition than manually selecting things from a list. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 00:13:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E55106567E for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:13:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D068FC17 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-114-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.114.16]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB931D8FC; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:13:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p2B0DaXY002562; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:13:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:13:36 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "O. Hartmann" Message-Id: <20110311011336.51d0ce9a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4D78AA1B.3000000@zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <4D75EB04.7090704@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4D78AA1B.3000000@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xpdf can not print via cups if started from firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:13:38 -0000 On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:38:19 +0100, "O. Hartmann" wrote: > On 03/08/11 16:51, Warren Block wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, O. Hartmann wrote: > > > >> I've got a weird problem here. Very often I download scientific papers > >> as pdf from protals and they got opened via firefox3 with the > >> configured propper utility, in this case xpdf. In such a case, > >> printing is impossible. I hit the print button, a popup shows up with > >> the configured CUPS printing queue, but hitting OK doesn't have any > >> effect. The funny thing is: when opening the same PDF (it is stored in > >> /tmp/) with xpdf by starting xpdf from a terminal, printing on the > >> same queue works well. > > > > In your .xpdfrc, do you specify a full path to the CUPS lpr? > > I did now and it hasn't any effect. Maybe you're experiencing a caching problem? I would guess that as you stated there is a temporary file, this should not happen (in relation to Firefox) there should at least be an error message. Did you try to enter the full command into xpdf's printing dialog, e. g. "/usr/local/bin/lpr -P", just in case the .xpdfrc setting hasn't been read upon program start? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 00:22:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36358106566B for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:22:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E7F8FC1A for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:22:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF672845B; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:22:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:22:45 -0500 From: Daniel Staal To: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <618EA69D736AD5B9C554F240@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <20110310213645.GB677@thought.org> References: <20110310012331.GA10189@thought.org> <20110310130343.GC2301@catflap.slightlystrange.org> <20110310213645.GB677@thought.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: using dovecot, where is ICOMING mail stored? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:22:47 -0000 --As of March 10, 2011 1:36:45 PM -0800, Gary Kline is alleged to have said: > I did try pointing mutt -f at my saved backup > /usr/tmp/.../Maildir. Nothing. My copies of saved mail are > there, but not what was in the unread queue. I was testing out > mutt from a laptop and that has to have been when I > accidentially deleted stuff. Too bad there isn't a page on > "howto set up a mailserver" ... for dimwits --As for the rest, it is mine. Ok, my suggestion: First, install Postfix, and check the config option to replace Sendmail. (Sendmail works just fine. It also can be configured to play tic-tack-toe[1]. A mailer that does _not_ have a Turing-complete config file is a lot easier to set up, and you probably won't ever need to use Sendmail's esoteric options. ;) ) Then: It's a quick walkthrough. It assumes Linux, but that only means the command to install the programs and the location of the config file is wrong. It should get you up and running. Your mail is probably in /var/mail. That's the default location for mbox files, and you've probably missed setting up Maildir delivery. I don't know how to set that in Sendmail off the top of my head, but it's easy enough to use Postfix. Daniel T. Staal [1]This is assuming what I've heard on a Turing-complete config file is correct, and not hyperbole. If it's not completely Turing-complete, it's at least very complex. --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 00:33:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4469106566B for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:33:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC7A8FC1B for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p5B22FC60.dip.t-dialin.net [91.34.252.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p2B0XJqI001894; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:33:20 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2B0X7gD000353; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:33:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p2B0WeAP054048; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:32:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201103110032.p2B0WeAP054048@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Robert Bonomi From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:21:48 CST." <201103101721.p2AHLmId020967@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:32:40 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, nlandys@gmail.com Subject: Re: Apple & FreeBSD relationship X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:33:23 -0000 > Sorry, Julian, but Chuck had it _legally_ correctly, for the U.S.A.. ... etc ... Thanks for the explanation Robert. Sad that people are not free to speak. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, Not HTML, Not base 64. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 00:43:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5921B106566B for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dteske@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor.com (postoffice.vicor.com [69.26.56.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9548FC0A for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.82.228.128] (port=65444) by postoffice.vicor.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.74) (envelope-from ) id 1PxqSu-0004Gj-W4; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:44:27 -0800 From: Devin Teske To: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=90=D0=B2=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BD_=D0=9A=D0=B8=D0=BC?= In-Reply-To: References: <16697687.1299777024088.JavaMail.root@ilscha01-alusmsdb-02> <1299786522.47040.27.camel@dt.vicor.com> Organization: VICOR, Inc. Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:43:15 +0000 Message-ID: <1299804195.47040.30.camel@dt.vicor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 X-Scan-Signature: 1c7050054f2b55e722e1226ebc3dcf2c X-Scan-Host: postoffice.vicor.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:43:54 -0000 On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 01:42 +0300, =D0=90=D0=B2=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BD =D0= =9A=D0=B8=D0=BC wrote: > Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:48:42 +0000 =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=8C=D0=BC=D0=BE =D0= =BE=D1=82 Devin Teske : >=20 > > On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 19:53 +0100, Terje Elde wrote: > >=20 > > > On 10. mars 2011, at 18.38, 6412037195@email.uscc.net wrote: > > > > Does OpenBSD use the same kernel as FreeBSD? > > >=20 > > > I think your question about the relationship between *nixes can best = be > > answered by a 4487=E2=80=86=C3=97=E2=80=8629437 diagram, which can be f= ound in several formats > > here: > > >=20 > > > http://www.unix-diagram.org/ > >=20 > >=20 > > or this one: > > http://www.levenez.com/unix/ > > -- > > Devin > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Terje >=20 > ...or if you want a version with references and/or be running a FreeBSD s= erver without a GUI, there is of course:) > /usr/share/misc/bsd-family-tree Wow, I never knew about that. Great stuff! --=20 Devin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 01:44:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C0A106564A for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fsb@thefsb.org) Received: from smtp204.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp204.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD798FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp40.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1C3073500C3; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:44:04 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp40.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id CA6CE3500A8; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:44:03 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.1.0.101012 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:43:59 -0500 From: Tom Worster To: Jason Helfman Message-ID: Thread-Topic: lost network during freebsd-update install In-Reply-To: <20110310174805.GR13527@eggman.experts-exchange.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lost network during freebsd-update install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:44:04 -0000 On 3/10/11 12:48 PM, "Jason Helfman" wrote: >Good idea. Rollback does work, and has worked for me in a very similar >situation, and hopefully will work for you as well. After the rollback, >reboot, and start again from your initial upgrade command. I would highly >recommend using tmux, and also installing a remote console/management card >for your system so you can control it remotely. The cost of the card is >probably less than remote-hands cost on one support call. so my support person called and said that it did boot to single user mode but was in a dreadful mess and rollback didn't work. loads of really basic programs, stuff that freebsd-update uses, were missing, like id(1). oh well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 02:57:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34B11065673 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 02:57:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juan@juanyjosefina.com) Received: from smtpauth21.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth21.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A455A8FC1D for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 02:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14400 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2011 02:57:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.109.190.167) by smtpauth21.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.38) with ESMTP; 11 Mar 2011 02:57:16 -0000 From: "Juan C. Valido" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20110311011022.801208c0.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <4D782C8D.3020102@extracktor.com> <1299728031.72606.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> <4D78804B.4040406@ose.nl> <1299756900.73766.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> <4D78C832.6050301@ose.nl> <20110311011022.801208c0.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:57:15 -0500 Message-ID: <1299812235.64912.3.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 02:57:18 -0000 Well. I don't really know what I'm doing but you offer some great advice, thanks. For an old man I learn fast, I don't mind doing research and of course RTFM :-) On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 01:10 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:46:42 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: > > Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a > > regular basis? > > Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications) > > on these servers, because it can give you a lot of time, work e.g. > > unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating. > > I would suggest that, too. Allow me to point out a new > perspective of the way of use: GUI forces you to work in a > linear way and pay extra attention. You cannot automate it. > Depending on what your primary intention is, using CLI > tools to get rid of "hands on" work may be a better choice. > This approach of course assumes that you actually KNOW what > you're doing, but that's a main requirement for any > administrator. :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 06:41:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FD8106564A for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 06:41:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60168FC1F for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 06:41:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1Pxw2A-0003EM-1n>; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:41:10 +0100 Received: from e178017220.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.17.220] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1Pxw29-0008FQ-Ul>; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:41:10 +0100 Message-ID: <4D79C405.6030201@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:41:09 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110305 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4D75EB04.7090704@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4D78AA1B.3000000@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20110311011336.51d0ce9a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110311011336.51d0ce9a.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.17.220 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xpdf can not print via cups if started from firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 06:41:12 -0000 On 03/11/11 01:13, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:38:19 +0100, "O. Hartmann" wrote: >> On 03/08/11 16:51, Warren Block wrote: >>> On Tue, 8 Mar 2011, O. Hartmann wrote: >>> >>>> I've got a weird problem here. Very often I download scientific papers >>>> as pdf from protals and they got opened via firefox3 with the >>>> configured propper utility, in this case xpdf. In such a case, >>>> printing is impossible. I hit the print button, a popup shows up with >>>> the configured CUPS printing queue, but hitting OK doesn't have any >>>> effect. The funny thing is: when opening the same PDF (it is stored in >>>> /tmp/) with xpdf by starting xpdf from a terminal, printing on the >>>> same queue works well. >>> >>> In your .xpdfrc, do you specify a full path to the CUPS lpr? >> >> I did now and it hasn't any effect. > > Maybe you're experiencing a caching problem? I would guess > that as you stated there is a temporary file, this should > not happen (in relation to Firefox) there should at least > be an error message. > > Did you try to enter the full command into xpdf's printing > dialog, e. g. "/usr/local/bin/lpr -P", just in case > the .xpdfrc setting hasn't been read upon program start? > > > Yes, I did, still the same problem. I have the strange feeling that a firefox-started xpdf doesn't know anything about CUPS and its printing queues. I try to figure out how to log this ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 06:58:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DAC106564A for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 06:58:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3206B8FC14 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 06:58:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:58:22 +0100 Message-ID: <4D79C80B.5070805@ose.nl> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:58:19 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: lost network during freebsd-update install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 06:58:27 -0000 On 03/10/2011 04=3A24 PM=2C Tom Worster wrote=3A =3E before resorting to cd=2E Hi=2C I=27ve read your last post=2C this sucks=2E I missed a point which you have thought about =28see below=29 The best thing would have been either rollback or reboot and continue=2C se= e below=2E =3E the handbook describes a procedure=3A =3E =3E A=29 1st freebsd-update install=3A The kernel and kernel modules will b= e =3E patched =3E =3E B=29 reboot =3E =3E C=29 2nd freebsd-update install=3A The state of the process has been sa= ved and =3E thus=2Cfreebsd-update will not start from the beginning=2C but will rem= ove all =3E old shared libraries and object files =3E =3E =3E i=27m just guessing=2E=2E=2E A=29 did not complete because its shell ex= ited=2E i was =3E left with a half-patched kernel=2E when i did =22freebsd-update install= =22 =3E again=2C instead of doing A=29 over from scratch=2C it attempted C=29 a= nd started =3E dumping cores all over the carpet=2E result=3A system can=27t get the k= ernel up =3E properly=2E =3E =3E or another guess=2E=2E=2E A=29 did complete while i was disconnected=2E= when i =3E repeated =22freebsd-update install=22 it attempted C=29 but because the= old =3E kernel was still running it didn=27t work and started dumping cores all= over =3E the carpet=2E result=3A system hangs attempting to start some userland= part=2E I guess you=27re right here=2E When ssh disconnects the shell does not immediatly exit=2C it takes some mi= nutes=2E So freebsd-update succesfully installed the kernel and when you got connected again and ran install the second time it tried to install a new= userland on top of the old running kernel which in case of this major version upgrade did not work=2E Why so much stuff is missing though is not= clear to me=2C I would think that freebsd-update just overwrites the old bi= naries=2E =3E it seems a pity now that freebsd-update chose to use the same command v= erb =3E for both A and C=2E It would be nice if freebsd-update had the same command sequence =28without= the build parts=29 as in a source upgrade=2E First fetch of course=2C then= freebsd-update installkernel with a message to reboot on succes or rollback= on failure=2C then after reboot freebsd-update installworld=2C with a check= if the new kernel is actually loaded=2C after that and rebuilding ports freebsd-update delete-old-libs I would like to know how others think about this approach=2C or am I thinki= ng completely wrong here=3F =3E real hw=2E =3E =3E i=27m considering going to the clouds=2E i could easily restore from a= vm =3E snapshot=2E but for that i need to learn linux=2C another big time sink= =2E =3E =3E add votes here=3A =3E http=3A//feedback=2Erackspacecloud=2Ecom/forums/71021-product-feedback/= suggestion =3E s/989519-create-a-freebsd-image Voted=2E I run FreeBSD on real hardware and in virtual machines=2C both work fine ov= er the years=2E Hope you have your server up and running again and from your posts I trust= you have good backups and a reliable fast way to restore=2E DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 07:22:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4014E106566C for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:22:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A91248FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:22:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 08:22:30 +0100 Message-ID: <4D79CDB6.1080902@ose.nl> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 08:22:30 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D782C8D.3020102@extracktor.com> <1299728031.72606.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> <4D78804B.4040406@ose.nl> <1299756900.73766.5.camel@server-3.juanyjosefina.com> <4D78C832.6050301@ose.nl> <20110311011022.801208c0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110311011022.801208c0.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:22:34 -0000 On 03/11/2011 01=3A10 AM=2C Polytropon wrote=3A =3E On Thu=2C 10 Mar 2011 13=3A46=3A42 +0100=2C Bas Smeelen =3Cb=2Esmeelen= =40ose=2Enl=3E wrote=3A =3E=3E Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on= a =3E=3E regular basis=3F =3E=3E Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports =28appl= ications=29 =3E=3E on these servers=2C because it can give you a lot of time=2C work e= =2Eg=2E =3E=3E unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating=2E =3E I would suggest that=2C too=2E Allow me to point out a new =3E perspective of the way of use=3A GUI forces you to work in a =3E linear way and pay extra attention=2E You cannot automate it=2E =3E Depending on what your primary intention is=2C using CLI =3E tools to get rid of =22hands on=22 work may be a better choice=2E =3E This approach of course assumes that you actually KNOW what =3E you=27re doing=2C but that=27s a main requirement for any =3E administrator=2E =3A-=29 I definitely agree here=2E =3E=3E Webmin is a good GUI progam =28from client perspective=29 for admin= istering =3E=3E your servers=2C it just runs in your clients webbrowser and you can= administer =3E=3E almost every aspect of your servers with it=2E =3E That=27s true=2C but it brings new security risks to the system=2E =3E Also keep in mind that using a web browser limits your =3E accessibility to what the browser can do =28and the Webmin =3E can support=29=2C e=2E g=2E you may be faster using a shell with =3E patterns and autocompletition than manually selecting =3E things from a list=2E =3E Agree here too=2E Webmin can be secured and audited very well=2C but still= the more services that are available=2C the greater the security risks will be= =2E Only from the commandline you have all options for configuration of different services available and it=27s the fastest way to do things=2E For graphical oriented users I think that Webmin is a real good solution an= d gives a way to get into the use of the commandline and configuration files= =2E DISCLAIMER=3A This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Acce= ss=2C disclosure=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 07:32:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA5F106564A for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:32:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cbergstrom@pathscale.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C188FC14 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so1188700yxl.13 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 23:32:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.146.229.4 with SMTP id b4mr13150114yah.1.1299826905045; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 23:01:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (ppp-61-90-21-135.revip.asianet.co.th [61.90.21.135]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x31sm2645243ana.29.2011.03.10.23.01.41 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 10 Mar 2011 23:01:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D79C85A.8090807@pathscale.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:59:38 +0700 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22C=2E_Bergstr=F6m=22?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bas Smeelen References: <4D79C80B.5070805@ose.nl> In-Reply-To: <4D79C80B.5070805@ose.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lost network during freebsd-update install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:32:28 -0000 Bas Smeelen wrote: > It would be nice if freebsd-update had the same command sequence (without > the build parts) as in a source upgrade. First fetch of course, then > freebsd-update installkernel with a message to reboot on succes or rollback > on failure, then after reboot freebsd-update installworld, with a check if > the new kernel is actually loaded, after that and rebuilding ports > freebsd-update delete-old-libs > This is not helpful directly, but zfs to the rescue in these circumstances. It makes updates and early/deep boot failures a lot easier to recover from. Transactional binary updates is a very nice thing From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 09:18:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E049C1065670 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 09:18:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99AE68FC1B for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 09:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwj8 with SMTP id 8so2133673qwj.13 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:18:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4MqRMBuC3CuxkfCcTxfE85gx+brP3TT1kyL8satme68=; b=x8ey+amF6DsPWbEvtiYeQx5tCWSWCpiq0Z45FF42MvBpOuPc+fMqQCEcGpD/D3u24t r8IIMjpy0jLOQ0ljoO+LZ9Y++4yRntoA0DzaTlovJ683i2eyf4eqbylrCKTno7mD1qgy No/G4FFS3vAudYOhXRoE7Tx5S77000Gj3/D1Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Yon2AdwHgQS9BZeNFjB95Tqa11+ut0+8EEeFMvMe7UX351M7imwkZbKEpNq7Ls9PeO +9nU5Qmjl5BZmkbkgjpAkH2Ni24YIbNJwql3i6BEix5QOOL/64tjgLyvyuIQDnvM8o0F KY9NObc+fmqZQNZh1hHM+aZbSms+1cD08EgiU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.211.71 with SMTP id gn7mr8050894qab.11.1299833583102; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:53:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.54.131 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:53:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:53:03 +0200 Message-ID: From: Kaya Saman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Setting up a a route in FreeBSD with NAT issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 09:18:09 -0000 Hi all, I'm trying to setup a gateway between an internal network using Vbox test machines of which one is a FreeBSD router/gateway. Being familiar with Cisco I know how easy this is to do but I think that I'm struggling a bit with the syntax. My setup is as so: Damn Small Linux (virtual machine) -> (em1) FreeBSD 8.2 (virtual gateway) (em0) -> internal network 10.100.100.2 10.100.100.1 172.16.7.136 172.16.0.0/20 My current configuration within the FreeBSD router looks like so: /etc/rc.conf: gateway_enable="YES" hostname="ROUTER.test.org" ifconfig_em0="inet 172.16.7.136 netmask 255.255.240.0" #em0_nat="NO" ifconfig_em1="inet 10.100.100.1 netmask 255.255.255.192" #em1_nat="YES" inetd_enable="YES" keymap="uk.iso" sshd_enable="YES" defaultrouter="172.16.0.1" ipnat_enable="YES" ipnat_rules="/etc/ipnat.rules" named_enable="YES" static_routes="net1" route_net1="-net 10.100.100.0/26 0.0.0.0/0" /etc/ipnat.rules: map tun0 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0/0 portmap tcp/udp 10000:65000 map tun0 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0/0 The router from DSL is set as 10.100.100.1 and it hits it without any problem... running a traceroute however gives this: ROUTER# ipnat -l List of active MAP/Redirect filters: map tun0 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0.0.0.0/0 portmap tcp/udp 10000:65000 map tun0 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0.0.0.0/0 List of active sessions: Something here isn't working and I'm not sure quite what it is :-( Can anyone help??? Thanks Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 10:34:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD351065672 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:34:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563F08FC1C for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk35 with SMTP id 35so5406890qyk.13 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 02:34:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Kf4MsXXaN73bS5BeHfby7EVmgP4QrH1qWsUWq0OzHQs=; b=rHxLye7ezvx056clXstAyZKTMVqTsduswibwrLGtrX8WVOZjlfdzc15HQlvU2KN44P Rgc4LXlyoHiL0EjeuidkLTu2i2dgcfDcGZXBUYBVaCTD9nheAlWEFn8L6yMaPL9quj5F gNzE6AxALgJBzP1NmVu/uphFaeG4lydHVwknQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CXSyf47KwVTrUuOtRLiKzRa0dDJ7ohbFwV8n7GCa5RCi6BPJy0tdo+4fbKbjjYsahI 841xIB93/GPpk8raGCtBXc3gHZyis0Uz4BDEqFcQEallsSQW95c3BY9nqumZaymJFoPy xDU5BcmL/jOxIdX7lqXSl9J7JW5to7AnaCHcg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.76.84 with SMTP id b20mr8117911qak.161.1299839647518; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 02:34:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.54.131 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 02:34:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:34:07 +0200 Message-ID: From: Kaya Saman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Setting up a a route in FreeBSD with NAT issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:34:08 -0000 Ok I've managed to make some headway however it still isn't working properly: /etc/ipnat.rules #map em1 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0.0.0.0/32 portmap tcp/udp 10000:65000 map em1 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0.0.0.0/32 map em1 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0.0.0.0/32 auto I then added this addition to the end of the /etc/rc.conf file: static_routes="em0 em1" route_em1="-net 10.100.100.0/26 172.16.0.0/20" route_em0="-net 172.16.0.0 0.0.0.0/0" when I run traceroute on my host now I can see it going through the system however I'm still not sure it's being NAT'd or routed?? ROUTER# ipnat -l List of active MAP/Redirect filters: map em1 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0.0.0.0/32 List of active sessions: MAP 10.100.100.1 53 <- -> 10.100.100.1 53 [10.100.100.2 32772] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 12:27:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EAE106564A for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:27:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invitation@whereareyounow.net) Received: from mail136.wayn.net (mail136.wayn.net [193.169.121.136]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A08F8FC13 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail136.wayn.net[127.0.0.1] by mail136.wayn.net[127.0.0.1] (SMTPD32); Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:27:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; s=default;d=whereareyounow.net; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type; bh=GTxWYmOhsT9ie9GelBlnCjd1jzA=; b=pCkXV7XSvgx2V5mPkeSGd5R4InUiIN9yxq7TSOF3ogym3zT/rHY54ZbiXMsvSRDrIoxbnxCPW2l76LEn3kX1Ug== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; 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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Ross Cameron has left a message for you X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:43:21 -0000 Hi FreeBSD, Ross Cameron has left you a message on WAYN=2E To read message from Ross click on the link below: http://www.wayn.com/invite/23061-kwtcrl/fqe0og-csqi69276u6qc All the best, The WAYN Team ---------------------------------------- To stop receiving invite requests from Ross Cameron, click here: http://www.wayn.com/-/23068-kwtcrl?m=3D1282278&c=3D531038992 To stop receiving any notification from WAYN, click here: http://www.wayn.com/-/23069-kwtcrl?c=3D531038992 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 15:44:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078E81065679 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:44:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0BCC8FC13 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:44:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p2BFiYtZ055340; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 08:44:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p2BFiYJd055337; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 08:44:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 08:44:34 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: "O. Hartmann" In-Reply-To: <4D79C405.6030201@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: References: <4D75EB04.7090704@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4D78AA1B.3000000@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20110311011336.51d0ce9a.freebsd@edvax.de> <4D79C405.6030201@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 11 Mar 2011 08:44:35 -0700 (MST) Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xpdf can not print via cups if started from firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:44:40 -0000 On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, O. Hartmann wrote: > On 03/11/11 01:13, Polytropon wrote: >> >> Maybe you're experiencing a caching problem? I would guess >> that as you stated there is a temporary file, this should >> not happen (in relation to Firefox) there should at least >> be an error message. >> >> Did you try to enter the full command into xpdf's printing >> dialog, e. g. "/usr/local/bin/lpr -P", just in case >> the .xpdfrc setting hasn't been read upon program start? >> > Yes, I did, still the same problem. I have the strange feeling that a > firefox-started xpdf doesn't know anything about CUPS and its printing > queues. I try to figure out how to log this ... With a stock lpr/lpd, Firefox and xpdf work as expected. My .xpdfrc is: psFile "| lpr -Plaser" "laser" is the queue for my laser printer, defined in /etc/printcap. If the real BSD lpr is being called, you should see errors in /var/log/lpd-errs. There's a CUPS on FreeBSD article: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/cups/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 16:22:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11671065679 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:22:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel.matei@lamd.ro) Received: from fortimail1.romtelecom.net (out5.romtelecom.net [86.35.15.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E888FC1A for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from proxy2.romtelecom.net (proxy2.romtelecom.net [86.35.15.39]) by fortimail1.romtelecom.net with ESMTP id p2BDLcam021586 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:21:38 +0200 Received: (qmail 6812 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2011 13:14:57 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on antispam02.romtelecom.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-98.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_PSBL, RCVD_IN_XBL, SHORTCIRCUIT shortcircuit=ham autolearn=disabled version=3.3.1 Received: from ancpi.2ktelecom.ro (HELO [10.54.11.98]) (daniel.matei@lamd.ro@[86.105.246.162]) (envelope-sender ) by proxy2.romtelecom.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 11 Mar 2011 13:14:57 -0000 Message-Id: <35FS15BR-X4SB-7J4P-7H12-VWN5NW7Q6NA0@lamd.ro> Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Daniel Matei To: freebsd-questions Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:18:51 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Opportunity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:22:42 -0000 Hello, I am developing an international business and I am looking for 2 partner= s=2E I entered innovative technologies with international monopoly=2E The company is listed on NYSE=2Ecom and FORBES Magazine Award=2E The inf= ormation are PUBLIC=2E If you are interested to find more about it, please reply to me=2E Business can be done part-time to start=2E Sincerely, Daniel Matei From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 16:29:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D775A106566B for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:29:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9F08FC16 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1Py5DJ-0004vo-M0>; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:29:18 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1Py5DJ-0002NQ-Jj>; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:29:17 +0100 Message-ID: <4D7A4DDF.8090509@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:29:19 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110307 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4D75EB04.7090704@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4D78AA1B.3000000@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20110311011336.51d0ce9a.freebsd@edvax.de> <4D79C405.6030201@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xpdf can not print via cups if started from firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:29:19 -0000 On 03/11/11 16:44, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, O. Hartmann wrote: > >> On 03/11/11 01:13, Polytropon wrote: >>> >>> Maybe you're experiencing a caching problem? I would guess >>> that as you stated there is a temporary file, this should >>> not happen (in relation to Firefox) there should at least >>> be an error message. >>> >>> Did you try to enter the full command into xpdf's printing >>> dialog, e. g. "/usr/local/bin/lpr -P", just in case >>> the .xpdfrc setting hasn't been read upon program start? >>> >> Yes, I did, still the same problem. I have the strange feeling that a >> firefox-started xpdf doesn't know anything about CUPS and its printing >> queues. I try to figure out how to log this ... > > With a stock lpr/lpd, Firefox and xpdf work as expected. My .xpdfrc is: > psFile "| lpr -Plaser" > > "laser" is the queue for my laser printer, defined in /etc/printcap. > > If the real BSD lpr is being called, you should see errors in > /var/log/lpd-errs. > > There's a CUPS on FreeBSD article: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/cups/index.html Using xpdf or any other printing client works well with my setup, even xpdf called from a terminal prints correctly, reports pages, access etc. in /var/log/cups/access_log|pages_log as expected. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 17:49:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22111065672 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:49:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DBD8FC18 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:49:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1449861fxm.13 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 09:49:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=yTMt/X1AowkPSW3GvWdh/CXoHDpZYdaefBPY9+BN1tY=; b=o1mganX/0gXhhI5I5YlJdLLWMFdkNXoxMvE3UiSKuNsIVMRlDO+Uh8zDplx9kaKLl2 tbRtRNfG6zkmbpZISw9b9ls5leaUrQxh5wNKgz2Lu0VDeTf4pqGrBBagS7eK9lONFGZn CQuXZvyZSGOOtRjc0HN0pdol2weLNkv+Qw8ks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; b=ouVzWB2DG2/wDadVz+dH/57IuDCSJbN21ibx6qDdw9pjywbM+9Qyav/ycK0QI9uCBj DOmBMogHR8cFRYtBXGSMEAwaXWjuKaJd6KXmQ3jQJ6e52PgiRmGFIGsu+1yXP5DFX6nW 5Ez+u6ajAXXEhJ/iNg2Ty0knz2G1jJ3I+tqz8= Received: by 10.223.64.201 with SMTP id f9mr77913fai.102.1299865731922; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 09:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.16.0.66] ([78.186.130.149]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o17sm2036199fal.1.2011.03.11.09.48.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 11 Mar 2011 09:48:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D7A607F.8070805@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:48:47 +0200 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Setting up a a route in FreeBSD with NAT issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:49:21 -0000 Eventually I got this thing to work by adding the following syntax into the config files: /etc/rc.conf: gateway_enable="YES" hostname="ROUTER.test.org " ifconfig_em0="inet 172.16.7.136 netmask 255.255.240.0" em0_nat="NO" ifconfig_em1="inet 10.100.100.1 netmask 255.255.255.192" em1_nat="YES" inetd_enable="YES" keymap="uk.iso" sshd_enable="YES" defaultrouter="172.16.0.1" ipnat_enable="YES" ipnat_rules="/etc/ipnat.rules" named_enable="YES" #static_routes="em0 em1" #route_em1="-net 10.100.100.0/26 172.16.0.0/20 " #route_em0="-net 172.16.0.0 0.0.0.0/0 " /etc/ipnat.rules #map em0 0.0.0.0/0 -> 0/32 proxy port 8080 htto/tcp #map em0 0.0.0.0/0 -> 0/32 portmap tcp/udp 10000:65000 #map em0 0.0.0.0/0 -> 0/32 #map em0 0.0.0.0/0 -> 0/32 auto #map em1 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0/32 proxy port 8080 http/tcp #map em1 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0/32 portmap tcp/udp 10000:65000 #map em1 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0/32 #map em1 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0/32 auto map em0 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0/32 proxy port 8080 http/tcp map em0 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0/32 portmap tcp/udp 10000:65000 map em0 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0/32 map em0 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0/32 auto The trick was in fact to utilize the external interface within the NAT map file then direct the internal network via the 'gateway of last resort' - default route. The config can be easily adapted and modified from here if anyone is interested in doing something similar or adding extra networks in the middle such as a firewall or proxy........ Many thanks, Kaya On 03/11/2011 12:34 PM, Kaya Saman wrote: > Ok I've managed to make some headway however it still isn't working > properly: > > > /etc/ipnat.rules > > > #map em1 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0.0.0.0/32 > portmap tcp/udp 10000:65000 > map em1 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0.0.0.0/32 > > map em1 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0.0.0.0/32 > auto > > > I then added this addition to the end of the > > /etc/rc.conf file: > > > static_routes="em0 em1" > route_em1="-net 10.100.100.0/26 172.16.0.0/20 > " > route_em0="-net 172.16.0.0 0.0.0.0/0 " > > > when I run traceroute on my host now I can see it going through the > system however I'm still not sure it's being NAT'd or routed?? > > ROUTER# ipnat -l > List of active MAP/Redirect filters: > map em1 10.100.100.0/26 -> 0.0.0.0/32 > > > List of active sessions: > MAP 10.100.100.1 53 <- -> 10.100.100.1 53 [10.100.100.2 32772] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 20:36:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F071065670 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 20:36:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEC78FC16 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 20:36:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 8824747184C for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:37:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB603865B4 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:37:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:37:01 +0100 Message-Id: <201103112137.AA2540961940@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Len Conrad" X-Sender: To: X-Mailer: Subject: syslog-ng logging stopped X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lconrad@Go2France.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 20:36:56 -0000 uname -a FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE syslog-ng --version syslog-ng 2.0.10 change date on syslog-ng.conf is "Apr 20 2009" syslog-ng been running untouched for that long. Millions of lines/per day log from 10 source machine. about 00:20 today Friday, all syslogging to syslog-ng stopped. sockstat -4 shows udp/tcp 514 listening chkrootkit shows nothing wrong stop syslog-ng then pkg_delete, and then cd /usr/ports/sysutils/syslog-ng2 make && make install start it, no change I rebooted the syslog server. no change trafshow -i bce0 -n then filter 514 ... shows 100KBs arriving from our syslog clients. tshark capture "port 514" on syslog-ng box shows plenty of traffic arriving with untouched pf rules active, pfctl -d no change so pfctl -e df shows plenty of disk space for /var suggestions? Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 21:01:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10274106566C for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brianmwaters@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C5B8FC13 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:01:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so1250688gwb.13 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:01:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UmcUSRPQRNsxxu/wwUqtwJfAHywg17hYU184Hm+CJz4=; b=ithQgs9y/ws3rqt8Znpopr7kj45srIJjyrn0ONREJHNp46NAFEsZsdC9w4Dx0D6AGb CEjp2e7sov9QUdvC6g+Wdeb6rH/+kxAi2OMK+8k6lNwJU+z58j4MOKZvZ+s1wiliyjgY AF1L4jU8d1JuZzJjqnBClDd5aLdDZw2ShRAbw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=StN1CZbEbB4w5LGHdMgMeiBypkLPAGquM7eOv/8/LKNedJ7UaXfdgCEbKLShJ584uz chZ/myBlU8p4xXvcT3JLyRLwiHwROr+yvomGCQITsfwNb0bbaGWnBpkPl6EdqiknQpaO /VeRkVBbAgAJMbMe1pZmpqMhY8fyUtVQOIc8c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.147.30.23 with SMTP id h23mr12075346yaj.23.1299875384572; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:29:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.147.167.13 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:29:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:29:44 -0500 Message-ID: From: Brian Waters To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Quick question about sound drivers (esp. snd_hda) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:01:10 -0000 It seems to me that under /dev, you can have the following sound-related device files: dspX dspX.Y (among others) I'm having some trouble getting my sound to work (Dell Inspiron E1705/Inspiron 9400 with Sigmatel STAC9220 codec). I've read the manpages for snd and snd_hda (which is the appropriate driver), and increased the verbosity of the drivers and read the kernel log and /dev/sndstat, but I still can't quite wrap my head around everything. What I'm wondering is: what exactly is the meaning of X and Y above? I'm assuming that X comes from the "association numbers" in the snd_hda driver, but I could be wrong. Please correct me! Thanks, Brian Waters From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 21:03:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FB21065672 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:03:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edflecko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA7D8FC0A for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:03:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so3611500iwn.13 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:03:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Fi8RPQCWepwEyjjUsm+HFJTTwhkxGM1lmDraukoniSU=; b=SvcWgy3Muhxt9wa03YFPWIefDsanjDjCTY/iPpz6Fgn1rrxAGAa6QHHmgttGnfsOu2 uJcn4B+mtYClVW8MXssAZ7KyY4GPyv2T+/QJ2e7/fwjrJc8OD1uW7jwIBGg23ZwILvAJ yZw17A3b6Wa/Npo8gGnMCHBgUdFKArwxk6b4U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZbJvAtx/z10S0h69fwYLmvML3mfKyNVre0TNutOx7Gozzey5Pbamo/50dA9ZtNAAAb 8zQpmCczSf6JipekmattIu2rYn8CrcLrz+Un/r7klJlp9gn4gujC/9qf5eb/8RV+/iJm WL0n1nEJBMh3y37hfpf7VJUIL2Sik1gWVel+E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.180.230 with SMTP id bv38mr2194167ibb.174.1299877402596; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:03:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.199.4 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:03:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:03:22 -0800 Message-ID: From: Ed Flecko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: "Best practices" on upgrading, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:03:23 -0000 Hi folks, I'm trying to fully understand the whole FBSD version thing and when, if , and why you should consider upgrading. I have a production server running FBSD 8.1 (and I'm following the errata branch) that works just fine, with no problems. I see that the "Production Release" of 8.2 is available. Obviously, 8.2 has features that 8.1 does not, but I guess my primary questions is: 1.) If you have a production server that's running well (and is fully patched, i.e. following the errata branch), is there a compelling reason to upgrade or do most people do it because there are features in the new release that you want/need? I guess what I'm really asking is if it makes more sense to take the "if it aint broke - don't fix it" mindset or should you really consider upgrading when a new version is released??? 2.) If I DO upgrade, I can simply change my supfile to RELENG_8_2 and then: run csup upgrade the ports make buildworld make buildkernel make installkernel make installworld is that right? Is my sequence wrong? 3.) How do I upgrade any installed software (I CAN use portmaster for that, right?)? Thank you, Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 21:06:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65BA106566C for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [66.147.249.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9BFD18FC1C for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:06:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24818 invoked by uid 0); 11 Mar 2011 21:06:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy1.bluehost.com.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Mar 2011 21:06:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=lt7ae1+kDk3z63G9gHBTi1ZSo+6+icF5ZGCGGt7sal8JQkpdOykzpF3tyhGGu2bpiFRAEuvbB6Sz/R7gWBeVXYenbzFWv1xJ+4Yy5UGx4NDEgpBZ37/ENMUu2WjW8Dqf; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Py9Xo-00009X-M6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:06:45 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:55:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:55:19 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110311205519.GA86330@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: terminal emulators with secure keyboard capability X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:06:47 -0000 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those who aren't aware, XTerm offers a pretty nifty security feature, particular for cases of entering passwords. If you hold down the Ctrl key and the left left mouse button, a menu appears; the second item down is "Secure Keyboard". From the XTerm manpage: The Secure Keyboard mode is helpful when typing in passwords or other sensitive data in an unsecure environment; see SECURITY below (but read the limitations carefully). I recommend anyone interested in this feature read the SECURITY section of the xterm(1) manpage, of course. I won't copy all the relevant text here. Let it suffice to say, in summary, that Secure Keyboard mode in XTerm "attempts to ensure that all keyboard input is directed only to xterm (using the GrabKeyboard protocol request)." I have yet to notice any other terminal emulator with a similar keyboard input protection mode. Does anyone here know of any such terminal emulators, aside from XTerm, that do something like this? --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk16jDcACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXVfACeMzLHbmZsy0fenrdb1RKBj5c+ wlEAnRepSUgZ8KpnkqloBnM69bk3Ln3y =7q+0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 21:13:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE304106566B for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F4B8FC14 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:13:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1Py9eR-0005DB-Eh>; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:13:35 +0100 Received: from e178039109.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.39.109] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1Py9eR-0007aM-B1>; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:13:35 +0100 Message-ID: <4D7A907F.80503@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:13:35 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110305 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4D767265.80406@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20110308183204.GB25750@slackbox.erewhon.net> In-Reply-To: <20110308183204.GB25750@slackbox.erewhon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.39.109 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xorg-driver/xf86-video-ati-6.14.0: Worse performance since last update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:13:36 -0000 On 03/08/11 19:32, Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 07:16:05PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: >> Since the last update of Xorg stuff, including the >> xf86-video-ati-6.14.0, the video performance of all of our >> AMD/ATi-driven boxes went worse. >> The bad performance also occur with the recommendations made in >> ports/UPDATING for driver "radeon". Without those recommendated adding >> of options even with a working xorg.conf file the performance stays worse. > > The recommendations have been removed from UPDATING; with the exception of the > "DynamicPM" option, all the others are at their default settings and therefore > not necessary. All right, I already adjusted my xorg.conf towards the initial state ... > >> Worse means: using vlc (also after recompilation after upgrades made!), >> videos are massively bumpy and can not be watched with vlc-screen fully >> expanded to 1900x1200 pixel with HD4830 graphics card - this worked >> perfectly before. > > Check out the logfile '/var/log/Xorg.0.log' if you see anything unusual. Well, for the untrained eye there seems nothing wrong, except the non-existent acceleration ... see below. > >> Moving windows around now looks like having chunks of video content >> floating around - as on unaccelerated/slow graphics boards. > > When looking at the logfile '/var/log/Xorg.0.log', does it say the following; > > (II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled > (II) RADEON(0): Set up textured video I see this: (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0x00ef00d0 0x001f0000 (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0x003f0000 (==) RADEON(0): Backing store disabled (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled (EE) RADEON(0): Acceleration initialization failed (II) RADEON(0): Acceleration disabled > > Personally, I have built this port with one of the patches removed. In my case > the patch in question hung my machine every time! (there was quite a large > thread about it on the mailing-list) Try removing the patch > /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati/files/patch-src-radeon_driver.c and > re-install the driver. If that works you can make the change permanent like > this: > > # cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati/files > # truncate -s 0 patch-src-radeon_driver.c > # chflags schg,sunlnk patch-src-radeon_driver.c > > > Roland Well, yesterday or two days ago there was a change of the port x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati. The file patch-src-radeon_driver.c has gone. But the problems still occur (but not that harsh as before). I realize on all AMD driven graphicsystems this "bumpyness", even on those graphics cards, HD4830, which are supposed to deliver a acceptable performance for every day's usage, show now a kind of being cut-off and they are no longer faster than the crappy HD4670 or HD4770 which we also use in some FBSD 9.0 boxes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 21:33:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98351106564A for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:33:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from christer.solskogen@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495358FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:33:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so1165357vws.13 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:33:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=3yOmqXDkpJnQy8zRqzsm+aT46a7XFD6/PhUbqI20d2g=; b=jJrE+4GEwzVRaNDOQ632zoFY5o1tmC4aUN4OwHdz+2mcxnlt2LrIs4olNK7MtKYDIO LNMsUFXXhE16fX61kctC0PHlMkC5cHU/OoV6sfWa8WO3yyTDDS1J3IBcbHJ+2l906Ccs erur/kpiqzOFyFdzN5MOuqseJ+esnA2c/4m/Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=I3tzCTtJ8+Qmj10ZVz2ME09Am3cW8Op5aoEfRibRYBoI08wlwfsqCZOc7YdfwhbECj H1n3M1MI/n7QoqqmHXrXdURZR7PcZ1yTgSVQN4u8g49DVQmJnRmwhpcQYle5JRTyVKiK hmTdloz8aA+8FzsdHEFkdNfDfRLvQQCzkDrGo= Received: by 10.52.91.83 with SMTP id cc19mr22975vdb.256.1299878937337; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:28:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.166.130 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:28:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Christer Solskogen Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:28:37 +0100 Message-ID: To: Ed Flecko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Best practices" on upgrading, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:33:58 -0000 On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Ed Flecko wrote: > Hi folks, > I'm trying to fully understand the whole FBSD version thing and when, > if , and why you should consider upgrading. > > I have a production server running FBSD 8.1 (and I'm following the > errata branch) that works just fine, with no problems. > > I see that the "Production Release" of 8.2 is available. > > Obviously, 8.2 has features that 8.1 does not, but I guess my primary > questions is: > > 1.) If you have a production server that's running well (and is fully > patched, i.e. following the errata branch), is there a compelling > reason to upgrade or do most people do it because there are features > in the new release that you want/need? I guess what I'm really asking > is if it makes more sense to take the "if it aint broke - don't fix > it" mindset or should you really consider upgrading when a new version > is released??? > I do. At a certain point 8.1 will not be supported anymore, and thus no more security updates. > 2.) If I DO upgrade, I can simply change my supfile to RELENG_8_2 and then: > > run csup > upgrade the ports > make buildworld > make buildkernel > make installkernel > make installworld > > is that right? Is my sequence wrong? > A bit wrong. 1) run csup 2) make buildworld && make buildkernel && make installkernel 3) reboot 4) make installworld 5) mergemaster 6) reboot 7) upgrade ports > 3.) How do I upgrade any installed software (I CAN use portmaster for > that, right?)? > Yeah, portmaster is key. There is no need to force upgrade of all ports when going from 8.1 to 8.2. -- chs, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 21:37:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1AC6106566C for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B138E8FC15 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.75]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A3A6516B4AB; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:37:52 -0600 (CST) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:37:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:37:30 -0600 (CST) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.6dollardialup.com To: Ed Flecko In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Best practices" on upgrading, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:37:57 -0000 On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Ed Flecko wrote: > Hi folks, > I'm trying to fully understand the whole FBSD version thing and when, if , > and why you should consider upgrading. > > I have a production server running FBSD 8.1 (and I'm following the errata > branch) that works just fine, with no problems. > > I see that the "Production Release" of 8.2 is available. > > Obviously, 8.2 has features that 8.1 does not, but I guess my primary > questions is: > 1.) If you have a production server that's running well (and is fully > patched, i.e. following the errata branch), is there a compelling > reason to upgrade or do most people do it because there are features > in the new release that you want/need? I guess what I'm really asking > is if it makes more sense to take the "if it aint broke - don't fix > it" mindset or should you really consider upgrading when a new version > is released??? Even with backups, upgrades can be troublesome. Read the release notes. I suggest you have a reason for upgrading in mind -- other than that the number got bumped, and this goes double for a production maching. > > 2.) If I DO upgrade, I can simply change my supfile to RELENG_8_2 and then: The correct order is given in /usr/src/UPDATING. Do not rely on the following comments, but consult /usr/src/UPDATING. > > run csup > upgrade the ports Update the ports tree and ports after the OS. Otherwise, you may have to do it twice. This is not especially likely in a minor version bump, but it can happen. > make buildworld > make buildkernel > make installkernel make kernel combines the above two steps. Then as single user run mergemaster -p. > make installworld then run mergermaster and delete old if you please. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 21:42:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F57106564A for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E4B8FC18 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:42:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-114-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.114.16]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403493CDA4; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:42:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p2BLgSCd002092; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:42:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:42:28 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Ed Flecko Message-Id: <20110311224228.673ae3f6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Best practices" on upgrading, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:42:31 -0000 On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:03:22 -0800, Ed Flecko wrote: > 1.) If you have a production server that's running well (and is fully > patched, i.e. following the errata branch), is there a compelling > reason to upgrade or do most people do it because there are features > in the new release that you want/need? It mainly depends on program functionality, in my opinion. Let's say you're running a production application (e. g. a server or a service) that needs constant upgrading to be secure to use, and this relies on the new functionality provided by the OS, you should consider upgrading the OS as well. If this is *not* the case, keeping the errata branch of -RELEASE should be sufficient. At some point in time, sooner or later, you'll have to upgrade the OS to the next minor or even major version, and you should keep that in mind. Currently being at 8.1-p is not considered "harmful". > I guess what I'm really asking > is if it makes more sense to take the "if it aint broke - don't fix > it" mindset or should you really consider upgrading when a new version > is released??? Depends on your applications and your "upgrade policy" as well. Personally, I am a big fan of the "install once, then keep using" approach, providing the recommended and mandatory updates, and keeping everything else intact. > 2.) If I DO upgrade, I can simply change my supfile to RELENG_8_2 and then: > > run csup > upgrade the ports > make buildworld > make buildkernel > make installkernel > make installworld > > is that right? Is my sequence wrong? In its presented version: Yes. You should have a look at /usr/src/Makefile and use the procedure mentioned there: 1. `cd /usr/src' (or to the directory containing your source tree). 2. `make buildworld' 3. `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). 4. `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC). [steps 3. & 4. can be combined by using the "kernel" target] 5. `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt). 6. `mergemaster -p' 7. `make installworld' 8. `make delete-old' 9. `mergemaster' (you may wish to use -U or -ai). 10. `reboot' 11. `make delete-old-libs' (in case no 3rd party program uses them anymore) After the successfully finished "make installworld" you can start upgrading your installed ports. On the other hand: If you're running a GENERIC kernel, you can easily use the freebsd-update program for binary upgrades. See its manpage for details. > 3.) How do I upgrade any installed software (I CAN use portmaster for > that, right?)? Yes. See "man portupgrade" for details (switches -a, -r and -f are important); you can also use portmaster for that, this should be easier than dealing with the ports directly (which is, in any case, possible too). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 22:31:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28827106566B for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:31:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E384C8FC1C for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id C6B1547184C for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:31:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9CF3865B6 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:31:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:31:19 +0100 Message-Id: <201103112331.AA2596602004@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Len Conrad" X-Sender: To: X-Mailer: Subject: Re: syslog-ng logging stopped X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lconrad@Go2France.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:31:12 -0000 ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: I=C3=B1igo Ortiz de Urbina Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:12:49 +0100 >Whats in dmesg and /var/log/? You shared extensive and excellent >troubleshooting info but didnt spot none of these. > >Keep us updated im sure im not the only one puzzled :) > >On 3/11/11, Len Conrad wrote: >> uname -a >> FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE >> >> syslog-ng --version >> syslog-ng 2.0.10 >> >> change date on syslog-ng.conf is "Apr 20 2009" >> >> syslog-ng been running untouched for that long. Millions of lines/per da= y >> log from 10 source machine. >> >> about 00:20 today Friday, all syslogging to syslog-ng stopped. >> >> sockstat -4 shows udp/tcp 514 listening >> >> chkrootkit shows nothing wrong >> >> stop syslog-ng >> >> then pkg_delete, and then >> >> cd /usr/ports/sysutils/syslog-ng2 >> >> make && make install >> >> start it, >> >> no change >> >> I rebooted the syslog server. no change >> >> trafshow -i bce0 -n >> >> then filter 514 >> >> ... shows 100KBs arriving from our syslog clients. >> >> tshark capture "port 514" on syslog-ng box shows plenty of traffic arriv= ing >> with untouched pf rules active, >> >> pfctl -d no change so pfctl -e >> >> df shows plenty of disk space for /var >> >> suggestions? >> >> Len >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" >> > > >-- >I=C3=B1igo Ortiz de Urbina Cazenave >http://www.twitter.com/ioc32 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D dmesg -a | less showed nothing /var/log/console.log showed nothing /var/log/messages showed nothing From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 23:31:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88F1106566C for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:31:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (asmtp3.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590B68FC0C for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2BNVnhD009828; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:31:49 GMT Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2BNVmTE009819; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:31:48 GMT Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2CE7F33C1F; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:31:48 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:31:48 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Brian Waters Message-ID: <20110311233148.GA38813@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quick question about sound drivers (esp. snd_hda) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:31:51 -0000 --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 03:29:44PM -0500, Brian Waters wrote: > > It seems to me that under /dev, you can have the following > sound-related device files: >=20 > dspX > dspX.Y > (among others) >=20 > I'm having some trouble getting my sound to work (Dell Inspiron > E1705/Inspiron 9400 with Sigmatel STAC9220 codec). I've read the > manpages for snd and snd_hda (which is the appropriate driver), and > increased the verbosity of the drivers and read the kernel log and > /dev/sndstat, but I still can't quite wrap my head around everything. >=20 > What I'm wondering is: what exactly is the meaning of X and Y above? > I'm assuming that X comes from the "association numbers" in the > snd_hda driver, but I could be wrong. Please correct me! >=20 > Thanks, > Brian Waters Have you tried setting the default unit: # sysctl hw.snd.default_unit=3D1 If that works, you can make it permanent with: # echo "hw.snd.default_unit=3D1" >> /etc/sysctl.conf If it doesn't, you have to post the output of: $ cat /dev/sndstat Make sure your volume is turned up: mixer(8) HTH. Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk16sOMACgkQHduKvUAgeK4HggCgvz2XZFhbig+1CiXoTaNDXgZb 8wAAoIK/nfqIlRcbnB+KdMam2W2lzoF2 =G3ej -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 11 23:35:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A201065670 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A618FC12 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 209D6E807E4; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:35:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:35:22 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110311233522.GB30158@thought.org> References: <20110310012331.GA10189@thought.org> <20110310130343.GC2301@catflap.slightlystrange.org> <20110310213645.GB677@thought.org> <618EA69D736AD5B9C554F240@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <618EA69D736AD5B9C554F240@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: using dovecot, where is ICOMING mail stored? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:35:24 -0000 On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 07:22:45PM -0500, Daniel Staal wrote: > --As of March 10, 2011 1:36:45 PM -0800, Gary Kline is alleged to have said: > > > I did try pointing mutt -f at my saved backup > > /usr/tmp/.../Maildir. Nothing. My copies of saved mail are > > there, but not what was in the unread queue. I was testing out > > mutt from a laptop and that has to have been when I > > accidentially deleted stuff. Too bad there isn't a page on > > "howto set up a mailserver" ... for dimwits > > --As for the rest, it is mine. > > Ok, my suggestion: First, install Postfix, and check the config > option to replace Sendmail. (Sendmail works just fine. It also can > be configured to play tic-tack-toe[1]. A mailer that does _not_ > have a Turing-complete config file is a lot easier to set up, and > you probably won't ever need to use Sendmail's esoteric options. ;) > ) I would have replied last night but my shoulder was giving me way too much grief. ....You know, I use postfix here on my ubuntu desktop. I'm not sure that it is actually used, but it is the default. Equally, by default, sendmail on FBSD. Just so that things work, I'm happy. I've used sendmail since v 2.0.5; bought the book and ground thru about 85 pages before giving up. Pretty sure that there are some spam-blockers in one of the /etc/mail/* files, but that's about all! > > Then: > > It's a quick walkthrough. It assumes Linux, but that only means the > command to install the programs and the location of the config file > is wrong. It should get you up and running. This sounds like a must-read. > > Your mail is probably in /var/mail. That's the default location for > mbox files, and you've probably missed setting up Maildir delivery. > I don't know how to set that in Sendmail off the top of my head, but > it's easy enough to use Postfix. I checked on my server, ethic. Zero. Everything is in ~/Maildir; well, everything but the old files, :-). > > Daniel T. Staal > > [1]This is assuming what I've heard on a Turing-complete config file > is correct, and not hyperbole. If it's not completely > Turing-complete, it's at least very complex. LOL. If it isn't 100% complete, it's close ... I remember the original sendmail. Totally unreable! gary > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you > are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use > the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will > expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, > whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of > local copyright law. > --------------------------------------------------------------- -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 01:30:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A703106566C for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 01:30:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brianmwaters@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8548FC17 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 01:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so1322779gwb.13 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:30:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uOfZ1U/71hR8qwV9HYqM34Ya3/A4FzJ7uNilLtDdXfI=; b=anXfzOp8GzKwpnxktvyRMe0M7fpZ8bZEOmup7uz4EvPqxqmJtB56TcorF9eqzliodN JkkSPYFZNwyRvNbifyrCCyeWe+NKLmFy2h80RSLcI2DzPYpwsXajo8O0wOD82MqLJScD aNbPeRnb7/TyzspiV5JLq/HVj3L4aAkOisap8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=j1pwXg7qamNPwTCkgLr184eVPJCqp63hISeu3IvE8HArsAQ1Ft7qHS2jYSRFbsRPLT t6+MvbXsxXWO6betcztbdmk5S16N0dyY3H7goycYFalu7wZNVaZnTd+eXZYb2HnVfon+ X5f63RL2spsQEmUrknz/vwxQeucuJdsO6obmk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.105.6 with SMTP id h6mr1968733ybm.261.1299893408341; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:30:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.147.167.13 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:30:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110311233148.GA38813@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20110311233148.GA38813@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 20:30:08 -0500 Message-ID: From: Brian Waters To: Frank Shute , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Quick question about sound drivers (esp. snd_hda) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 01:30:09 -0000 Yeah, I have tried all the basic stuff. At this point, I've basically accepted that solving the problem on my machine is going to involve a whole bunch of technical stuff that I don't have the patience for - reading the HDA spec and the codec datasheet, reading the driver code, and making changes to the driver and default settings where necessary. (The hardware does work fine with the Linux kernel.) So yeah... that's probably never going to happen. I'm still wondering where the numbers in the names for the device special files come from. And thanks, Frank. - BW On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Frank Shute wrote: > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 03:29:44PM -0500, Brian Waters wrote: >> >> It seems to me that under /dev, you can have the following >> sound-related device files: >> >> dspX >> dspX.Y >> (among others) >> >> I'm having some trouble getting my sound to work (Dell Inspiron >> E1705/Inspiron 9400 with Sigmatel STAC9220 codec). I've read the >> manpages for snd and snd_hda (which is the appropriate driver), and >> increased the verbosity of the drivers and read the kernel log and >> /dev/sndstat, but I still can't quite wrap my head around everything. >> >> What I'm wondering is: what exactly is the meaning of X and Y above? >> I'm assuming that X comes from the "association numbers" in the >> snd_hda driver, but I could be wrong. Please correct me! >> >> Thanks, >> Brian Waters > > Have you tried setting the default unit: > > # sysctl hw.snd.default_unit=3D1 > > If that works, you can make it permanent with: > > # echo "hw.snd.default_unit=3D1" >> /etc/sysctl.conf > > If it doesn't, you have to post the output of: > > $ cat /dev/sndstat > > Make sure your volume is turned up: mixer(8) > > HTH. > > Regards, > > -- > > =C2=A0Frank > > =C2=A0Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 02:30:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B06106564A for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 02:30:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2FB8FC13 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 02:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p2C2CHH0030902; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:12:20 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: ALO Green Technologies Pte Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:14:17 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.5.4; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201103121014.18051.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> Cc: Brian Waters Subject: Re: Quick question about sound drivers (esp. snd_hda) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 02:30:05 -0000 Hi, On Saturday 12 March 2011 04:29:44 Brian Waters wrote: > It seems to me that under /dev, you can have the following > sound-related device files: > > dspX > dspX.Y > (among others) > this is what you see after your driver is loaded. You might have to tell an application which one to use. > I'm having some trouble getting my sound to work (Dell Inspiron > E1705/Inspiron 9400 with Sigmatel STAC9220 codec). I've read the > manpages for snd and snd_hda (which is the appropriate driver), and > increased the verbosity of the drivers and read the kernel log and > /dev/sndstat, but I still can't quite wrap my head around everything. > I have different hardware but I use the same driver. I did not compile it into the kernel after getting into trouble. Since I load it with: kldload snd_hda it works as expected. If trouble come up, I kick it our and reload it. > What I'm wondering is: what exactly is the meaning of X and Y above? > I'm assuming that X comes from the "association numbers" in the > snd_hda driver, but I could be wrong. Please correct me! > I do not really know but I have had to tell vlc which to use. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 02:54:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214631065670 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 02:54:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987D18FC0C for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 02:54:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.homeip.net (c80-217-64-49.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.64.49]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p2C2sTrU059193; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 03:54:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <4D7AE065.4070603@bah.homeip.net> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 03:54:29 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101213 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Waters References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quick question about sound drivers (esp. snd_hda) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 02:54:38 -0000 2011-03-11 21:29, Brian Waters: > It seems to me that under /dev, you can have the following > sound-related device files: > > dspX > dspX.Y > (among others) > > I'm having some trouble getting my sound to work (Dell Inspiron > E1705/Inspiron 9400 with Sigmatel STAC9220 codec). I've read the > manpages for snd and snd_hda (which is the appropriate driver), and > increased the verbosity of the drivers and read the kernel log and > /dev/sndstat, but I still can't quite wrap my head around everything. > > What I'm wondering is: what exactly is the meaning of X and Y above? > I'm assuming that X comes from the "association numbers" in the > snd_hda driver, but I could be wrong. Please correct me! This is what I think. dsp0.0 is the first device on the first "bus" and so on. %ls -l /dev/ds* crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 155 11 Mar 19:16 /dev/dsp0.0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 148 9 Mar 11:16 /dev/dsp1.0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 146 9 Mar 11:16 /dev/dsp2.0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 121 9 Mar 11:16 /dev/dsp3.0 %cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64) Installed devices: pcm0: (play/rec) default pcm1: (play/rec) pcm2: (play/rec) pcm3: (play) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 04:07:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99003106566B for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 04:07:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from starbase527@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0418FC15 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 04:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg13 with SMTP id 13so294230gyg.13 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 20:07:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id :date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=eq075jzHs1NUnv0HTAbXS3olciI3B1NQFhUY/wZLw8M=; b=vdasHBUgybssdGNg0jxRfTq4vnbzvBZZpK1CcAnMsF4v6VzC/rKk3NPM13uLFgD4gZ cSrP4p2TOlHL6hFGRLojtCwiZ8SUguGvhoOK36P2U0i3icdrmA1D8dorTpNigF//Zbem qn/ptSW7nvTkaSUYL/AvHgZMPnrUq6u0kRcSI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; b=s2rHznwUsxbTvEtNHfANp2KNxmIIer4rO6O3nzIscj8i5SQiB+5vT/jE0Do2BDPFll HTOxn8dsqwp+jEWOJqESCfpUX5qQvnppffC8g9L2v2sdDxgs8rkSWcyQgmEN37MLga7e hr4aSa4i9c4ZrDWx455TTSkIwcIYKp85Pz4rE= Received: by 10.101.166.40 with SMTP id t40mr1678226ano.118.1299901394268; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:43:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.199] (CPE-124-176-53-62.lns2.dea.bigpond.net.au [124.176.53.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x37sm6243333ana.28.2011.03.11.19.43.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 11 Mar 2011 19:43:13 -0800 (PST) From: Jasper Bedwell X-Mailer: iPod Mail (8F190) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:42:21 +1100 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 8F190) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Installing FreeBSD 8.1 on MacBook 5,1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 04:07:01 -0000 Hi, I've been trying to dual-boot FreeBSD 8.1 with Mac OS X on my MacBook (5,1) f= or some time now, but am having trouble trying to get the live cd to boot. I reach the FreeBSD Boot Loader Screen with the options for boot, boot witho= ut ACPI etc. However, I cannot select an option. I have tried with both the built in keyb= oard and a USB keyboard, but I do not think that that is the problem... Previously I have tried dual booting Ubuntu, but had problems with the live C= D also. During the boot process, the boot seemed to freeze, and the CD stopp= ed spinning. I think it might be a similiar problem here. Soon after arrivin= g at this screen, the CD stops spinning. Thanks for any advice! BTW. I'm using the amd64 disc1 iso image =3D=3D Further Boot Info =3D=3D When booting, Mac's EFI allows me to choose to boot from the CD. The screen g= oes black, then the following appears: CD Loader 1.2 Building the boot loader arguments Looking up /BOOT/LOADER ... Found Relocating the loader and the BTX Starting the BTX Loader BTX Loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.0.2 Consoles: internal video/keyboard BIOS CD is cd0 BIOS drive C: is disk0 BIOS 639kB/1047552kB available memory Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf /boot/kernel/kernel text=3D0x8d5503 data=3D0x129bf8+039f8 syms=3D[0x8 + 0xdd= bf8 + 0x8 + 0xca37e] It then continues to the FreeBSD Boot Loader Screen, and freezes I have also posted this question on the FreeBSD forums, but after a month th= ere has still been no answer. The same can be said for two other sites I pos= ted the question on: super user & the Unix and Linux Stackexchange. Sent from my iPod= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 04:12:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854E8106566B for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 04:12:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A58E8FC0A for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 04:12:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p2C4Bpgs007020; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:11:54 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: ALO Green Technologies Pte Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:13:50 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.5.4; amd64; ; ) References: <4D206791.9010001@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D206791.9010001@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201103121213.50729.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> Cc: Manish Jain Subject: Re: How to get Huawei USB modem to work ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 04:12:00 -0000 Hi, On Sunday 02 January 2011 19:54:57 Manish Jain wrote: > > Hello, > From a similar thread, I picked up some information that I should try > kldload'ing usba. But when I ran the command, I got an error message > that there is no such module. I searched under sys/modules and there > was no usba.ko > Can somebody please tell me how to get my Huawei USB dial-up modem to > work on FreeBSD 8.1 ? From dmesg, I have the following information : > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad8s2a > ugen0.3: at usbus0 > u3g0: on usbus0 > u3g0: Found 3 ports. > umass0: addr 3> on usbus0 > umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0000 > umass0:0:0:-1: Attached to scbus0 > cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 > cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device > cd0: 1.000MB/s transfers > cd0: cd present [16896 x 2048 byte records] > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:1): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 20 0 0 0 0 > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:1): CAM status: SCSI Status Error > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:1): SCSI status: Check Condition > (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:1): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not > present) > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 1 > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 1.000MB/s transfers > da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not > present > drm0: on vgapci0 > info: [drm] MSI enabled 1 message(s) > vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster > Any help would be greatly appreciated. if your modem is not supported out of the box, go to the file usbdevs and add an entry for it: I got last week a modem not supported by FreeBSD and just did this: product HUAWEI ETS2055 0x1803 CDMA modem 0x1803 is the ID of my modem. The ID is unknown to FreeBSD 8.2. Then add a line like the following to u3g.c: U3G_DEV(HUAWEI, ETS2055, U3GINIT_HUAWEI), Check the file for the other options like U3GINIT_HUAWEI you have. The chances are then pretty high that all will work The next problem will then your ppp.conf. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 05:54:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE160106566C for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 05:54:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogreentechnologies.com) Received: from alogreentechnologies.com (alogreentechnologies.com [67.212.226.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518218FC14 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 05:54:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amd620.ovitrap.com ([49.128.188.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by alogreentechnologies.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p2C5rtn6004635; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:54:03 -0700 From: Erich Dollansky Organization: ALO Green Technologies Pte Ltd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:55:50 +0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.5.4; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201103121355.50271.erich@alogreentechnologies.com> Cc: Ed Flecko Subject: Re: "Best practices" on upgrading, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 05:54:08 -0000 Hi, On Saturday 12 March 2011 05:03:22 Ed Flecko wrote: > > I have a production server running FBSD 8.1 (and I'm following the > errata branch) that works just fine, with no problems. > > I see that the "Production Release" of 8.2 is available. > > Obviously, 8.2 has features that 8.1 does not, but I guess my primary > questions is: > > 1.) If you have a production server that's running well (and is fully > patched, i.e. following the errata branch), is there a compelling > reason to upgrade or do most people do it because there are features just do use your words: if you have a running system which does not have any problems, wait at least for maybe a month before you install the upgrade. There have been times when even FreeBSD gave problems after an upgrade a few days after release. > in the new release that you want/need? I guess what I'm really asking > is if it makes more sense to take the "if it aint broke - don't fix > it" mindset or should you really consider upgrading when a new version > is released??? > I just upgraded to 8.2 on my workstation having a fully operating 8.1 installation on the second disk. > upgrade the ports If you upgrade only the minor version number, a portupgrade is normally not needed. At least my ports installed this January still work. It is different on a major version number chance. Anyway, I would suggest to stay with the 8.x branch for this machine until the 10 branch is reliable. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 08:35:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4817106566C for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 102118FC0C for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:35:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB074E8371; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:35:07 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=RFalQn2EJ6Fc BIX02PGe6SBubUY=; b=j9yFIyO2mb3soY2xW15ta+ZLkRaQlL+KP5y2Ngu06Ijn mOZjUOh/SG35TE8bwFr5gQw7DXZ3RuahokfJ98ydNRvHUEgkD5AJ3koNEBDPoZEB vZLMom9KX/D1iqH9EQsdLAzWnENvtZUUhOpdCqipdD3K47w2XFtnJmP+AbddE24= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=Tr8Bp2 MW0qhauKieIRzVU50VgIzV7ahTIiPQe1XfOWVRM4fjsoaYf7WvQAcSw6UMDy74j1 onuvpdheE+4vULhlDfihKXcsC1v79ISNRh0gncw0RPTokdFOXbH2t5Y71oZcZOr9 hCTm58quvpspskbsc3tOoaJEHKBcMkK3yAILU= Received: from unknown (client-86-31-236-253.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.31.236.253]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8F405E603D; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:35:07 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:34:42 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Brian Waters Message-ID: <20110312083442.0000143c@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8cvs9 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quick question about sound drivers (esp. snd_hda) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:35:09 -0000 On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:29:44 -0500 Brian Waters wrote: > It seems to me that under /dev, you can have the following > sound-related device files: > > dspX > dspX.Y > (among others) > > I'm having some trouble getting my sound to work (Dell Inspiron > E1705/Inspiron 9400 with Sigmatel STAC9220 codec). I've read the > manpages for snd and snd_hda (which is the appropriate driver), and > increased the verbosity of the drivers and read the kernel log and > /dev/sndstat, but I still can't quite wrap my head around everything. If the driver appears to load, then /dev/dsp should be created automatically when something tries to access it (e.g. cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp). -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 09:46:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7B3106566B for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2888FC13 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3696584bwz.13 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 01:46:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=kAVqfziIb0Ii5Be/hN1E3hrLVpymE0h6pucCqsyVn3E=; b=EPMQumCkWoX01obK0byeEaodbMHPcMSQtKm58gpIneN+xYSk990/8Nc0xtExkN+H+q lvFssoS6Zj0gp3+TjZi2snYZFGIMAzoGttbBnhe+bCp+2Us2FOskaEE841n+UvneuF/V ep6BXoziU32BJ3Iz2yS2zhCWddmqL2AZMKYxw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; b=c56Dx0Rx27mlHPLUhAFXChsqxK8etjyhbXLXGACHIN2fVONflxRPATidBIYDgyhPlX 34Az65HIeRFrvtkeHLOldVspqJH8pDxS1xkKunjigjWJQRwTvWmRL3c7H4JJWrTIk8Vd gYSfyoITg+G7ep7oun0Q+1dyAruNh0iaFNe9g= Received: by 10.205.24.12 with SMTP id rc12mr5588215bkb.199.1299923194238; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 01:46:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.173.194 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 01:46:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110312083442.0000143c@unknown> References: <20110312083442.0000143c@unknown> From: Chris Rees Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:46:04 +0000 Message-ID: To: Bruce Cran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Brian Waters , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quick question about sound drivers (esp. snd_hda) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:46:36 -0000 On 12 March 2011 08:34, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:29:44 -0500 > Brian Waters wrote: > >> It seems to me that under /dev, you can have the following >> sound-related device files: >> >> dspX >> dspX.Y >> (among others) >> >> I'm having some trouble getting my sound to work (Dell Inspiron >> E1705/Inspiron 9400 with Sigmatel STAC9220 codec). I've read the >> manpages for snd and snd_hda (which is the appropriate driver), and >> increased the verbosity of the drivers and read the kernel log and >> /dev/sndstat, but I still can't quite wrap my head around everything. > > If the driver appears to load, then /dev/dsp should be created > automatically when something tries to access it (e.g. cat /dev/random >> /dev/dsp). > An important point that I had trouble with recently; the dsp* files don't appear until they are read/written to! Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 12:02:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D79E10656A4 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:02:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485068FC0C for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.1-16-172-dyn.locolomo.org (unknown [172.16.1.127]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 613F61C0841 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:02:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D7B60F0.2030904@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:02:56 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Buildworld on flacky hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:02:59 -0000 Hi: I previously wrote about buildworld failure, it turns out to be flacky hardware. Since then I have tried to reboot on every failure and start building againg. It compiles fine for a 3-5 hours, then fails at different places. It seems that a new make buildworld does not pickup from where it failed, but deletes files at the beginning or something. Is there a way to split the buildworld target into sub targets such as to not restart every time? I know there is the -DNO_CLEAN option, but I'd prefer to build succesfully each subtarget rather than resume upon failure. Thanks, Erik -- Erik Nrgaard Ph: +34.666334818 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 16:17:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FE6106566B for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:17:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmfepi204.cox.net (fed1rmfepi204.cox.net [68.230.241.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694518FC08 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:17:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fed1rmimpo03.cox.net ([70.169.32.75]) by fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110312160711.IVKE21362.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:07:11 -0500 Received: from dell64 ([72.220.91.89]) by fed1rmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id JG7B1g00R1vgiKs04G7Bap; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:07:11 -0500 X-VR-Score: 30.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=+7g07FftAVK5SzfBDSzY8IJIWiAWL38p2qa3Op/8zMo= c=1 sm=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=oCktQfYhz6x+qcZZxX2gzg==:17 a=QWEs2HiFh4z9hfdfaQgA:9 a=99XMmWGbGh9BOGe1oiSYPekrU2cA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=oCktQfYhz6x+qcZZxX2gzg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:07:06 -0800 From: Robert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110312080706.2d98afb6@dell64> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Unable to umount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:17:25 -0000 Greetings On two separate systems running 8.2 Stable updated yesterday, I am unable to umount any USB thumb drives after mounting. I have tried both Fat32 and UFS formatted drives. I have tried with and without HAL enabled. I am running with all ports up to date and the latest XFCE4. This problem started with the upgrade of XFCE4 and Xorg. Here is how it looks [robert@dell64] ~> mount_msdosfs /dev/da6s1 Flash [robert@dell64] ~> ls -l Flash total 128 drwxr-xr-x 1 robert robert 32768 Jan 21 18:18 Android drwxr-xr-x 1 robert robert 32768 Jan 6 1980 LOST.DIR drwxr-xr-x 1 robert robert 32768 Jan 21 17:36 rosie_scroll drwxr-xr-x 1 robert robert 32768 Jan 21 16:53 rssreader [robert@dell64] ~> umount Flash umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy [robert@dell64] ~> umount /dev/da6s1 umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy If I log out of XFCE4 to the CLI, I can then umount normally. Is anyone else seeing this? TIA Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 16:26:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D70106566C for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB158FC16 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so4311075iyj.13 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:26:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.71.73 with SMTP id yj9mr4970523icb.484.1299947180060; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:26:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.144.202 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:26:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110312080706.2d98afb6@dell64> References: <20110312080706.2d98afb6@dell64> From: Chris Brennan Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:26:00 -0500 Message-ID: To: Robert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Unable to umount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:26:21 -0000 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Robert wrote: Greetings > > On two separate systems running 8.2 Stable updated yesterday, I am > unable to umount any USB thumb drives after mounting. I have tried both > Fat32 and UFS formatted drives. I have tried with and without HAL > enabled. > > I am running with all ports up to date and the latest XFCE4. This > problem started with the upgrade of XFCE4 and Xorg. Here is how it looks > > [robert@dell64] ~> mount_msdosfs /dev/da6s1 Flash > [robert@dell64] ~> ls -l Flash > total 128 > drwxr-xr-x 1 robert robert 32768 Jan 21 18:18 Android > drwxr-xr-x 1 robert robert 32768 Jan 6 1980 LOST.DIR > drwxr-xr-x 1 robert robert 32768 Jan 21 17:36 rosie_scroll > drwxr-xr-x 1 robert robert 32768 Jan 21 16:53 rssreader > [robert@dell64] ~> umount Flash > umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy > [robert@dell64] ~> umount /dev/da6s1 > umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy > > If I log out of XFCE4 to the CLI, I can then umount normally. > > Is anyone else seeing this? > > TIA > > Are you on the drive or do you have files open from the flash drive? Try this: lsof /home/robert/Flash or lsof /dev/da6s1 It will tell you what files are using the device, you should close all files before unmounting as well as making sure your not in /home/robert/Flash/ or some subdir of ~/Flash. -- Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward.... ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 16:33:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76667106564A for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:33:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (fed1rmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD8A8FC0C for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110312163322.JMNP22406.fed1rmfepo203.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net>; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:33:22 -0500 Received: from dell64 ([72.220.91.89]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id JGZL1g00u1vgiKs03GZNnS; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:33:22 -0500 X-VR-Score: -70.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=WtRarTlxVJ38pOpEoV/iO0An5zAk6Rp4dU44mOq+3B0= c=1 sm=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=oCktQfYhz6x+qcZZxX2gzg==:17 a=G0q-payyAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=7H2cQ70gt41AlTgEFdkA:9 a=CcNAMATt85hU35gQWzI-AiZjVYIA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=673AGJE-P7wA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=oCktQfYhz6x+qcZZxX2gzg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:33:15 -0800 From: Robert To: Chris Brennan Message-ID: <20110312083315.5f452796@dell64> In-Reply-To: References: <20110312080706.2d98afb6@dell64> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Unable to umount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:33:23 -0000 On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:26:00 -0500 Chris Brennan wrote: > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Robert wrote: > > Greetings > > > > On two separate systems running 8.2 Stable updated yesterday, I am > > unable to umount any USB thumb drives after mounting. I have tried > > both Fat32 and UFS formatted drives. I have tried with and without > > HAL enabled. > > > > I am running with all ports up to date and the latest XFCE4. This > > problem started with the upgrade of XFCE4 and Xorg. Here is how it > > looks > > > > [robert@dell64] ~> mount_msdosfs /dev/da6s1 Flash > > [robert@dell64] ~> ls -l Flash > > total 128 > > drwxr-xr-x 1 robert robert 32768 Jan 21 18:18 Android > > drwxr-xr-x 1 robert robert 32768 Jan 6 1980 LOST.DIR > > drwxr-xr-x 1 robert robert 32768 Jan 21 17:36 rosie_scroll > > drwxr-xr-x 1 robert robert 32768 Jan 21 16:53 rssreader > > [robert@dell64] ~> umount Flash > > umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy > > [robert@dell64] ~> umount /dev/da6s1 > > umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy > > > > If I log out of XFCE4 to the CLI, I can then umount normally. > > > > Is anyone else seeing this? > > > > TIA > > > > > Are you on the drive or do you have files open from the flash drive? > Try this: > > lsof /home/robert/Flash > > or > > lsof /dev/da6s1 > > It will tell you what files are using the device, you should close > all files before unmounting as well as making sure your not > in /home/robert/Flash/ or some subdir of ~/Flash. > Chris Thank you for the reply. As shown above, I mounted the drive and then tried to umount the drive. I did not access it other than the "ls" command. [robert@dell64] ~> lsof Flash [robert@dell64] ~> lsof /dev/da6s1 [robert@dell64] ~> [robert@dell64] ~> umount Flash umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy [robert@dell64] ~> umount /dev/da6s1 umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy [robert@dell64] ~> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 16:35:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6694A1065670 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393938FC08 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:35:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so4300764iwn.13 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.147.134 with SMTP id n6mr12306504icv.216.1299947745103; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:35:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.144.202 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:35:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110312083315.5f452796@dell64> References: <20110312080706.2d98afb6@dell64> <20110312083315.5f452796@dell64> From: Chris Brennan Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:35:25 -0500 Message-ID: To: Robert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Unable to umount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:35:46 -0000 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Robert wrote: Thank you for the reply. As shown above, I mounted the drive and then > tried to umount the drive. I did not access it other than the "ls" > command. > > [robert@dell64] ~> lsof Flash > [robert@dell64] ~> lsof /dev/da6s1 > [robert@dell64] ~> > [robert@dell64] ~> umount Flash > umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy > [robert@dell64] ~> umount /dev/da6s1 > umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy > [robert@dell64] ~> > For shgiggles, try and umount it as root, does that actually work? -- Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward.... ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 16:48:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7AAA106564A for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (fed1rmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8096B8FC27 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110312164846.KJPX16474.fed1rmfepo201.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net>; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:48:46 -0500 Received: from dell64 ([72.220.91.89]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id JGol1g00J1vgiKs03GolUE; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:48:45 -0500 X-VR-Score: -70.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=WtRarTlxVJ38pOpEoV/iO0An5zAk6Rp4dU44mOq+3B0= c=1 sm=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=oCktQfYhz6x+qcZZxX2gzg==:17 a=G0q-payyAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=appcob4qZIB3ghjZls8A:9 a=jIhfmOa6GkfqFLeQZSKY8yYDFgUA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=673AGJE-P7wA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=oCktQfYhz6x+qcZZxX2gzg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:48:40 -0800 From: Robert To: Chris Brennan Message-ID: <20110312084840.0c6de95c@dell64> In-Reply-To: References: <20110312080706.2d98afb6@dell64> <20110312083315.5f452796@dell64> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Unable to umount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:48:46 -0000 On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:35:25 -0500 Chris Brennan wrote: > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Robert wrote: > > Thank you for the reply. As shown above, I mounted the drive and then > > tried to umount the drive. I did not access it other than the "ls" > > command. > > > > [robert@dell64] ~> lsof Flash > > [robert@dell64] ~> lsof /dev/da6s1 > > [robert@dell64] ~> > > [robert@dell64] ~> umount Flash > > umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy > > [robert@dell64] ~> umount /dev/da6s1 > > umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy > > [robert@dell64] ~> > > > > > For shgiggles, try and umount it as root, does that actually work? > [robert@dell64] ~> umount Flash umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy [robert@dell64] ~> umount /dev/da6s1 umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy [robert@dell64] ~> Should have mentioned...been there, done that ...tried and failed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 17:06:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD461106567D for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (fed1rmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D508FC1D for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:06:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fed1rmimpo03.cox.net ([70.169.32.75]) by fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110312170640.KJEW21362.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net>; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:06:40 -0500 Received: from dell64 ([72.220.91.89]) by fed1rmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id JH6g1g0021vgiKs04H6gCV; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:06:40 -0500 X-VR-Score: -80.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=+7g07FftAVK5SzfBDSzY8IJIWiAWL38p2qa3Op/8zMo= c=1 sm=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=oCktQfYhz6x+qcZZxX2gzg==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=G0q-payyAAAA:8 a=wlZoUHfqKv8h5gNrsCwA:9 a=ZGPOmWuOYQUwnqLVcR2faaaAbe8A:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=673AGJE-P7wA:10 a=oCktQfYhz6x+qcZZxX2gzg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:06:34 -0800 From: Robert To: Robert Message-ID: <20110312090634.3c1ce3ed@dell64> In-Reply-To: <20110312084840.0c6de95c@dell64> References: <20110312080706.2d98afb6@dell64> <20110312083315.5f452796@dell64> <20110312084840.0c6de95c@dell64> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Chris Brennan Subject: Re: Unable to umount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:06:40 -0000 On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 08:48:40 -0800 Robert wrote: > On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:35:25 -0500 > Chris Brennan wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Robert > > wrote: > > > > Thank you for the reply. As shown above, I mounted the drive and > > then > > > tried to umount the drive. I did not access it other than the > > > "ls" command. > > > > > > [robert@dell64] ~> lsof Flash > > > [robert@dell64] ~> lsof /dev/da6s1 > > > [robert@dell64] ~> > > > [robert@dell64] ~> umount Flash > > > umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy > > > [robert@dell64] ~> umount /dev/da6s1 > > > umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy > > > [robert@dell64] ~> > > > > > > > > > For shgiggles, try and umount it as root, does that actually work? > > > [robert@dell64] ~> umount Flash > umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy > [robert@dell64] ~> umount /dev/da6s1 > umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy > [robert@dell64] ~> > > Should have mentioned...been there, done that ...tried and failed. Sorry. Sent the wrong copy & paste entry last time [root@dell64] ~# umount /dev/da6s1 umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy [root@dell64] ~# umount /home/robert/Flash umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy [root@dell64] ~# From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 17:34:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10A41065694 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:34:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (fed1rmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C608FC13 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fed1rmimpo03.cox.net ([70.169.32.75]) by fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110312173429.LGPV20516.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net>; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:34:29 -0500 Received: from dell64 ([72.220.91.89]) by fed1rmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id JHaU1g00c1vgiKs04HaUoB; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:34:28 -0500 X-VR-Score: -200.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=+7g07FftAVK5SzfBDSzY8IJIWiAWL38p2qa3Op/8zMo= c=1 sm=1 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=oCktQfYhz6x+qcZZxX2gzg==:17 a=3DW5ysfuAAAA:8 a=HHdnZQ_pAAAA:8 a=sPQPrPoyoNbnqVRpwe0A:9 a=lRI6p-DcXltPFu3IB9JC1f5_DNAA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=2SAumGWBsQEA:10 a=oCktQfYhz6x+qcZZxX2gzg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:34:23 -0800 From: Robert To: John Levine Message-ID: <20110312093423.2b8f9eba@dell64> In-Reply-To: <20110312172959.65728.qmail@joyce.lan> References: <20110312090634.3c1ce3ed@dell64> <20110312172959.65728.qmail@joyce.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to umount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:34:40 -0000 On 12 Mar 2011 17:29:59 -0000 John Levine wrote: > >> [robert@dell64] ~> umount Flash > >> umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy > > Try umount -f > > The problem is likely that HAL or one of its friends helpfully has the > device open just in case you might want to ask questions about it. > > Regards, > John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for > Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. > http://jl.ly That works! I did not have to do that before the recent updates to XFCE4 and Xorg but as long as I can umount, I'm happy. Thank you John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 17:51:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FE3106564A for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF518FC0C for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so4347623iwn.13 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:51:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.220.201 with SMTP id hz9mr4962027icb.15.1299952315046; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:51:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.144.202 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:51:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110312093423.2b8f9eba@dell64> References: <20110312090634.3c1ce3ed@dell64> <20110312172959.65728.qmail@joyce.lan> <20110312093423.2b8f9eba@dell64> From: Chris Brennan Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:51:35 -0500 Message-ID: To: Robert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: John Levine , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to umount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:51:56 -0000 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Robert wrote: On 12 Mar 2011 17:29:59 -0000 > John Levine wrote: > > > >> [robert@dell64] ~> umount Flash > > >> umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy > > > > Try umount -f > > > > The problem is likely that HAL or one of its friends helpfully has the > > device open just in case you might want to ask questions about it. > > > > Regards, > > John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for > > Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. > > http://jl.ly > > That works! > I did not have to do that before the recent updates to XFCE4 and Xorg > but as long as I can umount, I'm happy. > > Thank you John > > 'umount -f' is dangerous, while it worked in your case, truly, make sure you don't have any open files in the future, just to ensure no loss of files or filesytem corruption. -- Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward.... ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 17:56:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22A71065670 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:56:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=00453ea960=johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [64.57.183.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A988FC14 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:56:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20903 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2011 17:29:59 -0000 Received: from mail1.iecc.com (64.57.183.56) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 12 Mar 2011 17:29:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:vbr-info; s=100c1.4d7bad97.k1103; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=jOLs/SO4nI+3uLgEoffA6A2Q9Oc3HamU4b1UjKUsWjQ=; b=bltgxpqG/Pcw5kERFXIcS2MzWBpp/ZbFAjQ4Ti1miqNuJ4yxrG4VOX2VM+uTyDCGe8c0NMLxZZ4MnKD6C6wNl9+Olu+gPdH53XJqtnWxLJap4tTVB8fjAv5DJDC0lg+CRkvNQPg5aIILRUavXY4zGUXLCUkEwr0H+jQSeJVmQhI= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Date: 12 Mar 2011 17:29:59 -0000 Message-ID: <20110312172959.65728.qmail@joyce.lan> From: John Levine To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20110312090634.3c1ce3ed@dell64> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: traveling08@cox.net Subject: Re: Unable to umount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:56:42 -0000 >> [robert@dell64] ~> umount Flash >> umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy Try umount -f The problem is likely that HAL or one of its friends helpfully has the device open just in case you might want to ask questions about it. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 20:11:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F721065672 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 20:11:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DEF8FC0A for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 20:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 16295 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2011 20:11:45 -0000 Received: from s5.stradamotorsports.com (HELO w16.stradamotorsports.com) (jcw@[64.81.163.123]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Mar 2011 20:11:45 -0000 Message-ID: <4D7BD381.4020404@speakeasy.net> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:11:45 -0800 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110120 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Brennan References: <20110312090634.3c1ce3ed@dell64> <20110312172959.65728.qmail@joyce.lan> <20110312093423.2b8f9eba@dell64> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: John Levine , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Subject: Re: Unable to umount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 20:11:46 -0000 On 03/12/11 09:51, Chris Brennan wrote: > 'umount -f' is dangerous, while it worked in your case, truly, make > sure you > don't have any open files in the future, just to ensure no loss of files or > filesytem corruption Run sync before umount -f to flush write caches. Later, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 20:15:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C181065670 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 20:15:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bluethundr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A248FC1C for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 20:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so4445181iyj.13 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:15:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ht0qDage4DLB/OrRt+YLtyLudVjtzVFupYNB32CxNTM=; b=eK2dFZ2oO8yOCRmtBcNsDeFTsaLdGX1kZiFkAfJURoap6ebm9ns4QlZkGUDEzyf1Ie eQV3uuE+c22QVoKOmduExG6Ykr8sHYoOAHDiXtw4/lX+c9PPzzxbMsSbdGxgBaU+8qUe jGrIb+x/xCqftGF3Zl2qP0rGeOZ5do69b3FPY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aQNaQ3stESIbXibm1f9ZfLSda7a02inmrILsppDj4u5wXMqq71t2v6+X/bsc1NQOE4 LxL6KM5d0FDdq0F2OPZS0mH+6w2vcpQkZKUrZEMuUBW3Tz8nj9cibIhBdR7YT6Lle0dV kVN5wNKr5TaPgNPhbP3ktyC91Ac0rCZloHXeU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.220.70 with SMTP id hx6mr2395246icb.322.1299960931030; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:15:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.239.138 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:15:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20110312080706.2d98afb6@dell64> <20110312083315.5f452796@dell64> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:15:30 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tim Dunphy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Unable to umount X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 20:15:32 -0000 > [robert@dell64] ~> umount Flash > umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy > [robert@dell64] ~> umount /dev/da6s1 >umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy have you tried lazy unmount? umount -l /dev/da6s1 if you have root access you should su/sudo to that before trying this comma= nd. regards, tim On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Chris Brennan wrot= e: > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Robert wrote: > > Thank you for the reply. As shown above, I mounted the drive and then >> =A0tried to umount the drive. I did not access it other than the "ls" >> command. >> >> [robert@dell64] ~> lsof Flash >> [robert@dell64] ~> lsof /dev/da6s1 >> [robert@dell64] ~> >> [robert@dell64] ~> umount Flash >> umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy >> [robert@dell64] ~> umount /dev/da6s1 >> umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy >> [robert@dell64] ~> >> > > > For shgiggles, try and umount it as root, does that actually work? > > -- > > Did you know... > If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, > but what's worse is when you play it forward.... > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0...it installs Windows 2000 > =A0 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > --=20 GPG me!! gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys F186197B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 20:31:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4C4106564A for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 20:31:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51DC18FC18 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 20:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so2288101fxm.13 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:31:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mOBmdnl4Zyhl+2xav/2eJ4Rqkc+4GMBGf8R+gVP6H9c=; b=DUko/V83M915O20dWH1Q6tmDX+CymaqOCd7jnVtk5Y7Gis0T9cWXs3TNoz7LKOvRmT L81L3t7GqSJeDXY3NeAJPM9GUZ7Ypkr+UAc/AsZOmdxwC2c4l9cA4JpdSRYJvH9pClPO Pk/PY9YEM3UDPu/KJHelcJLeEWckeDGq3xhEQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=KV2J3rVi8ZX7lpGbiEHPhlJLEZIVyWnv8a9AoUmLcgTHe9oxVZjafg8Yz64p/jKP+W eVdt9RkrMcFdw7TX83ZnaLKcc85JzB3kSW8UC3+FHTs4deIJbMvMouRa49bOwTBQmjG6 8JRgBfnhPhbEE75arJgqzDrfmbnl8PS/VnofA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.86.200 with SMTP id t8mr8862941fal.26.1299960479095; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:07:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.74.133 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:07:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:07:59 -0600 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Character shortcuts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 20:31:10 -0000 Dear FreeBSD experts, There has been something that I find hard to do, I would like to find a CTRL + KEY combination, or ALT + KEY combination to input special characters like (=F1) [ALT + 164 or ALT + 0241 in Mr. Gates OS]. http://www.forlang.wsu.edu/help/keyboards.asp accents other symbols like copyright, euro, etc. I would like to do the same(have a special key combination) to get the characters in FreeBSD too, but googling have not found something that works. I even tried to run a litte program in the shell to generate the characters to use for cutting + pasting to no avial. But the characters after 127 are not printable :( using the pr-ascii script= from http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/wrapper.html u + 00F1 is the =F1,but I don't know which key combination gives the same results as above. A script/program(C,C++) that would generate the characters would be nice, but if there is a key combination that could be used to generate the special letters. Thanks in Advance, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 21:27:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647B4106566C for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:27:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (asmtp4.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A9E8FC13 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2CLRnNA005775; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:27:50 GMT Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2CLRnrn005768; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:27:49 GMT Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 21C4933C1F; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:27:49 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:27:49 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Antonio Olivares Message-ID: <20110312212749.GB38813@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="61jdw2sOBCFtR2d/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Character shortcuts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:27:52 -0000 --61jdw2sOBCFtR2d/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 02:07:59PM -0600, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > Dear FreeBSD experts, >=20 > There has been something that I find hard to do, I would like to find > a CTRL + KEY combination, or ALT + KEY combination to input special > characters like (=F1) [ALT + 164 or ALT + 0241 in Mr. Gates OS]. >=20 > http://www.forlang.wsu.edu/help/keyboards.asp >=20 > accents other symbols like copyright, euro, etc. I would like to do > the same(have a special key combination) to get the characters in > FreeBSD too, but googling have not found something that works. I even > tried to run a litte program in the shell to generate the characters > to use for cutting + pasting to no avial. >=20 > But the characters after 127 are not printable :( using the pr-ascii scri= pt from > http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/wrapper.html >=20 > u + 00F1 is the =F1,but I don't know which key combination gives the > same results as above. A script/program(C,C++) that would generate > the characters would be nice, but if there is a key combination that > could be used to generate the special letters. >=20 > Thanks in Advance, >=20 > Antonio You can get those characters (digraphs) using vim. :help dig in (g)vim. E.g Ctl-k n ~ =F1 Ctl-k C o =A9 There's a note about using the Euro sign in the vim helpfile. (Depends on the encoding of the font you're using.) You could also make macros for these digraphs in vim. Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --61jdw2sOBCFtR2d/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk175VQACgkQHduKvUAgeK5TXACdG38cBcu3O4h3GhwnGNMviC1R IlEAn1Wwm5T0dX7PvPTvMtjGwjM8oKhp =t/b5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --61jdw2sOBCFtR2d/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 21:40:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44F61065672 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:40:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69088FC13 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 6C68E47184C for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:40:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34AB3865B4 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:40:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from W500.Go2France.com [72.48.240.99] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id A85010A501A0; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:40:32 +0100 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:40:03 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad In-Reply-To: <201103112331.AA2596602004@mail.Go2France.com> References: <201103112331.AA2596602004@mail.Go2France.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <201103122240713.SM06140@W500.Go2France.com> Subject: Re: syslog-ng logging stopped X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:40:15 -0000 >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: Iñigo Ortiz de Urbina >Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:12:49 +0100 > >>Whats in dmesg and /var/log/? You shared extensive and excellent >>troubleshooting info but didnt spot none of these. >> >>Keep us updated im sure im not the only one puzzled :) >> >>On 3/11/11, Len Conrad wrote: >>> uname -a >>> FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE >>> >>> syslog-ng --version >>> syslog-ng 2.0.10 >>> >>> change date on syslog-ng.conf is "Apr 20 2009" >>> >>> syslog-ng been running untouched for that long. Millions of lines/per day >>> log from 10 source machine. >>> >>> about 00:20 today Friday, all syslogging to syslog-ng stopped. >>> >>> sockstat -4 shows udp/tcp 514 listening >>> >>> chkrootkit shows nothing wrong >>> >>> stop syslog-ng >>> >>> then pkg_delete, and then >>> >>> cd /usr/ports/sysutils/syslog-ng2 >>> >>> make && make install >>> >>> start it, >>> >>> no change >>> >>> I rebooted the syslog server. no change >>> >>> trafshow -i bce0 -n >>> >>> then filter 514 >>> >>> ... shows 100KBs arriving from our syslog clients. >>> >>> tshark capture "port 514" on syslog-ng box shows plenty of traffic arriving >>> with untouched pf rules active, >>> >>> pfctl -d no change so pfctl -e >>> >>> df shows plenty of disk space for /var >>> >>> suggestions? >>> >>> Len >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> >>-- >>Iñigo Ortiz de Urbina Cazenave >>http://www.twitter.com/ioc32 > >============= > >dmesg -a | less showed nothing > >/var/log/console.log showed nothing > >/var/log/messages showed nothing btw, I later replaced syslog-ng with syslogd, listening UDP:514. no lines in messages, maillog. Len >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 21:43:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF9E106566C for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:43:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAED88FC13 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-114-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.114.16]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6A91E297; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:43:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p2CLhbYp002140; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:43:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:43:36 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Antonio Olivares Message-Id: <20110312224336.ade79718.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Character shortcuts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:43:40 -0000 On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:07:59 -0600, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Dear FreeBSD experts, > > There has been something that I find hard to do, I would like to find > a CTRL + KEY combination, or ALT + KEY combination to input special > characters like (ñ) [ALT + 164 or ALT + 0241 in Mr. Gates OS]. > > http://www.forlang.wsu.edu/help/keyboards.asp > > accents other symbols like copyright, euro, etc. I would like to do > the same(have a special key combination) to get the characters in > FreeBSD too, but googling have not found something that works. I even > tried to run a litte program in the shell to generate the characters > to use for cutting + pasting to no avial. Depending on your keyboard and language settings, many characters can be generated by Alt+Letter. There is also a COMPOSE key on some keyboards - and those that don't have it can be told to do so by xmodmap. Using the COMPOSE approach, you combine a letter with an accent or any other symbol, and if there is a matching result in your character set (or font), it will be displayed. Here are some examples: Compose a a -> å (svedish a-circle) Compose s s -> ß (german Eszett ligature) Compose U " -> Ü (german U Umlaut, capital) Compose L / -> Ł (polish L-stroke, capital) Compose a , -> ą (polish a-comma) Compose o / -> ø (danish o-stroke) Compose k k -> ĸ (greek kappa) Compose n ' -> ń (n with accent grave) And of course: Compose n ~ -> ñ. Depending on how characters like `, ´, ^ or ~ are handled (single character immediately output, or combination character that waits for the next letter to automatically construct a new one), Compose may be needed or not. On the default german keyboard setting, 'e gives é, ~n gives ñ and ^a gives â immediately without using Compose. My ~/.xmodmaprc contains (along with other lines): add mod4 = Multi_key keycode 117 = Multi_key You can find out the keycodes using the "xev" program. Your keyboard settings maybe sets other characters than can be created with Alt+letter or AltGr+letter (the german keyboard's right Alt key is labeled AltGr, or Alt Graph on my Sun keyboard), e. g. ¬¹²³¼½¬{[]}\ @ł€¶ŧ←↓→øþþ¨ æßðđŋħjĸł˝^ «»¢“”nµ·, and with Shift ¬¡⅛£¤⅜⅝⅞™±°¿¿˛ ΩŁ€®Ŧ¥↑ıØÞ˚ ƧЪŊĦJ&Ł˝ˇ ¦<>©‘’Nº×÷. So instead of memorizing arbitrary numbers as in MICROS~1 land, you can see a relation between the letter and the key you need to press in order to generate it. You can also rearrange them if you feel a need for that. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 21:57:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A369A106564A for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FC68FC08 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:57:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so2319413fxm.13 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:57:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rl56yvhRZxvRptGIHzNL2d4fNHww67KK4qzG7LhIJOg=; b=JjOunnJHyb07hFmhYlZH1M7rBpx8TRlhXYk3OJE9oxzTPPtwGLBnjUnYmBSkl7oGrh qRUytEY7XcbQI7ne72DQNjR2g7BBvak9B/kUes+9/ugcChWG6o4O7kgNK52UDziY+/4T IqAE1v43W2jF7+atGtGhzduiVxYjWOdVml2OQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pU+IkmtZsxfmDa0xrx6WalbKljJo8FksaAySrzsgAdpyrskg2Sw2NcK3nIpi1fiFfQ /PusrTgqekX8M/fneIa/kfg+kek8sfUpEdf9/x39XLiCaYgIUOPPs8S1/XtP7OZpmfQ5 kLWEdnL1fJ9jJt8LYyCfADF/8O8DAimr7fZ4Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.145.143 with SMTP id d15mr5997987fav.45.1299967051487; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:57:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.74.133 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:57:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110312224336.ade79718.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20110312224336.ade79718.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:57:31 -0600 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Character shortcuts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 21:57:34 -0000 On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:07:59 -0600, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> Dear FreeBSD experts, >> >> There has been something that I find hard to do, I would like to find >> a CTRL + KEY combination, or ALT + KEY combination to input special >> characters like (=C3=B1) =C2=A0[ALT + 164 or ALT + 0241 in Mr. Gates OS]= . >> >> http://www.forlang.wsu.edu/help/keyboards.asp >> >> accents other symbols like copyright, euro, etc. =C2=A0I would like to d= o >> the same(have a special key combination) to get the characters in >> FreeBSD too, but googling have not found something that works. =C2=A0I e= ven >> tried to run a litte program in the shell to generate the characters >> to use for cutting + pasting to no avial. > > Depending on your keyboard and language settings, many > characters can be generated by Alt+Letter. There is also > a COMPOSE key on some keyboards - and those that don't > have it can be told to do so by xmodmap. Using the > COMPOSE approach, you combine a letter with an accent > or any other symbol, and if there is a matching result > in your character set (or font), it will be displayed. > > Here are some examples: > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Compose a a -> =C3=A5 (svedish a-circle) > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Compose s s -> =C3=9F (german Eszett ligature) > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Compose U " -> =C3=9C (german U Umlaut, capita= l) > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Compose L / -> =C5=81 (polish L-stroke, capita= l) > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Compose a , -> =C4=85 (polish a-comma) > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Compose o / -> =C3=B8 (danish o-stroke) > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Compose k k -> =C4=B8 (greek kappa) > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Compose n ' -> =C5=84 (n with accent grave) > > And of course: Compose n ~ -> =C3=B1. > > Depending on how characters like `, =C2=B4, ^ or ~ are handled > (single character immediately output, or combination > character that waits for the next letter to automatically > construct a new one), Compose may be needed or not. On the > default german keyboard setting, 'e gives =C3=A9, ~n gives =C3=B1 > and ^a gives =C3=A2 immediately without using Compose. > > My ~/.xmodmaprc contains (along with other lines): > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0add mod4 =3D Multi_key > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0keycode 117 =3D Multi_key > > You can find out the keycodes using the "xev" program. > > Your keyboard settings maybe sets other characters than > can be created with Alt+letter or AltGr+letter (the > german keyboard's right Alt key is labeled AltGr, or > Alt Graph on my Sun keyboard), e. g. =C2=AC=C2=B9=C2=B2=C2=B3=C2=BC=C2=BD= =C2=AC{[]}\ > @=C5=82=E2=82=AC=C2=B6=C5=A7=E2=86=90=E2=86=93=E2=86=92=C3=B8=C3=BE=C3=BE= =C2=A8 =C3=A6=C3=9F=C3=B0=C4=91=C5=8B=C4=A7j=C4=B8=C5=82=CB=9D^ =C2=AB=C2= =BB=C2=A2=E2=80=9C=E2=80=9Dn=C2=B5=C2=B7, and with Shift > =C2=AC=C2=A1=E2=85=9B=C2=A3=C2=A4=E2=85=9C=E2=85=9D=E2=85=9E=E2=84=A2=C2= =B1=C2=B0=C2=BF=C2=BF=CB=9B =CE=A9=C5=81=E2=82=AC=C2=AE=C5=A6=C2=A5=E2=86= =91=C4=B1=C3=98=C3=9E=CB=9A =C3=86=C2=A7=C3=90=C2=AA=C5=8A=C4=A6J&=C5=81=CB= =9D=CB=87 =C2=A6<>=C2=A9=E2=80=98=E2=80=99N=C2=BA=C3=97=C3=B7. > > So instead of memorizing arbitrary numbers as in MICROS~1 > land, you can see a relation between the letter and the > key you need to press in order to generate it. You can > also rearrange them if you feel a need for that. :-) > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... Thanks Frank & Polytropon for your input. I have students that bug me with how to put the characters on their responses to their instructors on the web pages via email. I tell them to open OpenOffice and insert Special Character and then select the n with the tilde for the Spanish work. But they wanted an easier way sort of the way BILL GATES OS has it. And I told them I would ask so they could do it also in FreeBSD and Linux land. One student told me that it mattered which ISO Header were used? ISO 8*? but I told him you gotta be kidding me. There has to be an easier way. The keyboards are standard US all using English keyboards. I know how to do it in \LaTeX{} or \TeX{}, \~n, \' but it does not matter for me, it is for them. They have to write to their spanish instructors in dual enrollment credit. I tell them then to open another page with the special letter and highlight them and copy+paste them and they boo my answer :( Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 22:06:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D450A106566C for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [81.255.84.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954718FC08 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VirusGate.MEIway.com (virusgate.meiway.com [81.255.84.76]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id BDC8947184C for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:06:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [81.255.84.73]) by VirusGate.MEIway.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF133865B6 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:06:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from LConrad@Go2France.com) Received: from W500.Go2France.com [72.48.240.99] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id AE6610EF01A0; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:06:30 +0100 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:06:04 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad In-Reply-To: <3E21B80B-7386-4B4F-9B50-E87AA8D843DA@boosten.org> References: <201103112331.AA2596602004@mail.Go2France.com> <201103122240713.SM06140@W500.Go2France.com> <3E21B80B-7386-4B4F-9B50-E87AA8D843DA@boosten.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <201103122306135.SM06140@W500.Go2France.com> Subject: Re: syslog-ng logging stopped X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:06:12 -0000 At 03:52 PM 3/12/2011, you wrote: >That probably means that it's not syslog-ng causing the problems. right >Maybe some firewall rule? I run pf. pfctl -d didn't allow logging to start. trafshow and tshark showed all the traffic hitting port 514, not being blocked. Len From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 22:12:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D7F1065678 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 620F48FC1E for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.149] (helo=smtp17.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq2.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PyWjt-00039n-DH; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:52:45 +0100 Received: from 541980a1.cm-5-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([84.25.128.161] helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp17.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PyWjq-0004B3-Oc; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:52:42 +0100 Received: from [192.168.13.34] (peters-ipod.egypt.nl [192.168.13.34]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C22639865; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:52:42 +0100 (CET) References: <201103112331.AA2596602004@mail.Go2France.com> <201103122240713.SM06140@W500.Go2France.com> Message-Id: <3E21B80B-7386-4B4F-9B50-E87AA8D843DA@boosten.org> From: Peter Boosten To: Len Conrad In-Reply-To: <201103122240713.SM06140@W500.Go2France.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPod Mail (7E18) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 7E18) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:52:23 +0100 X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1PyWjq-0004B3-Oc X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-0.842, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -1.90, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98, SPF_PASS -0.00, TW_HK 0.08) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: peter@boosten.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: syslog-ng logging stopped X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:12:52 -0000 That probably means that it's not syslog-ng causing the problems. Maybe some firewall rule? Peter -- =20 HTTP://www.boosten.org On 12 mrt 2011, at 22:40, Len Conrad wrote: > > >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >> From: I=C3=83=C2=B1igo Ortiz de Urbina >> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:12:49 +0100 >> >>> Whats in dmesg and /var/log/? You shared extensive and excellent >>> troubleshooting info but didnt spot none of these. >>> >>> Keep us updated im sure im not the only one puzzled :) >>> >>> On 3/11/11, Len Conrad wrote: >>>> uname -a >>>> FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE >>>> >>>> syslog-ng --version >>>> syslog-ng 2.0.10 >>>> >>>> change date on syslog-ng.conf is "Apr 20 2009" >>>> >>>> syslog-ng been running untouched for that long. Millions of lines/=20= >>>> per day >>>> log from 10 source machine. >>>> >>>> about 00:20 today Friday, all syslogging to syslog-ng stopped. >>>> >>>> sockstat -4 shows udp/tcp 514 listening >>>> >>>> chkrootkit shows nothing wrong >>>> >>>> stop syslog-ng >>>> >>>> then pkg_delete, and then >>>> >>>> cd /usr/ports/sysutils/syslog-ng2 >>>> >>>> make && make install >>>> >>>> start it, >>>> >>>> no change >>>> >>>> I rebooted the syslog server. no change >>>> >>>> trafshow -i bce0 -n >>>> >>>> then filter 514 >>>> >>>> ... shows 100KBs arriving from our syslog clients. >>>> >>>> tshark capture "port 514" on syslog-ng box shows plenty of =20 >>>> traffic arriving >>>> with untouched pf rules active, >>>> >>>> pfctl -d no change so pfctl -e >>>> >>>> df shows plenty of disk space for /var >>>> >>>> suggestions? >>>> >>>> Len >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org=20 >>>> " >>>> >>> >>> >>> --=20 >>> I=C3=83=C2=B1igo Ortiz de Urbina Cazenave >>> http://www.twitter.com/ioc32 >> >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> >> dmesg -a | less showed nothing >> >> /var/log/console.log showed nothing >> >> /var/log/messages showed nothing > > btw, I later replaced syslog-ng with syslogd, listening UDP:514. no =20= > lines in messages, maillog. > > Len > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org=20 >> " > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org=20 > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 22:13:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE221065673 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C408FC16 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:13:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-114-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.114.16]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCB83D3A3; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:13:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p2CMDNc0002243; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:13:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:13:22 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Antonio Olivares Message-Id: <20110312231322.4e2f6f44.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20110312224336.ade79718.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Character shortcuts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:13:25 -0000 On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:57:31 -0600, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Thanks Frank & Polytropon for your input. I have students that bug me > with how to put the characters on their responses to their instructors > on the web pages via email. I tell them to open OpenOffice and insert > Special Character and then select the n with the tilde for the Spanish > work. That's a workaround, but unhandy for text production. > But they wanted an easier way sort of the way BILL GATES OS has > it. You mean... easy like memorizing arbitrary numbers? :-) > And I told them I would ask so they could do it also in FreeBSD > and Linux land. It's no big deal. > One student told me that it mattered which ISO Header > were used? ISO 8*? but I told him you gotta be kidding me. There are the ISO character sets ISO-8859-x. For example, the standard german ISO set is 8859-1, Poland prefers -2, if I remember correctly, and there are others. If you're already encoding stuff in Unicode / UTF-8, all the characters from the different sets should be in there. For example, I'm currently using the german ISO set. But I can enter ñ (tilde n), Ł (compose shift+L shift+7) or € (AltGr+E). So that doesn't seem to matter. Everything that is needed is a key combination for that character (or a similar way to input it per keyboard), and it has to be displayable by the respective font. How it gets transmitted is part of the encoding line, either ISO or UTF. > There > has to be an easier way. The keyboards are standard US all using > English keyboards. With the default keyboard mapping of X? > I know how to do it in \LaTeX{} or \TeX{}, > \~n, \' Correct. This method makes the document source readable and editable on ANY localization, e. g. Gr"u"se (where "u is short for \"{u}, and "s for \ss{}). > but it does not matter for me, it is for them. They have to write to > their spanish instructors in dual enrollment credit. I tell them then > to open another page with the special letter and highlight them and > copy+paste them and they boo my answer :( What happens if they just press the sequence tilde n? A ñ should appear, given the requirement that pressing ~ alone does NOT generate a ~ character. I assume that the generic 101 key layout for US should have many non-US characters mapped to a different level (Alt, Alt+Shift maybe), such as the characters I presented are not part of the regular german character set. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 22:20:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D67A106566B for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949BA8FC14 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [89.187.142.208]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 532F15A80 for ; Sun, 13 Mar 2011 00:56:12 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 01:19:31 +0300 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110312221929.GA5335@external.screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: 'Fast' fsck -p coredumps on GPT volume? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:20:07 -0000 Hey freebsd-questions don't wanna cause you pain but the big boys feel no sorrow! I have fsck -p -y coredump on every cold reboot. The only unusual things to cause this are: it's a GPT volume and the nullfs is used extensively. I think this is because of the the GPT because I can't geom_label on that UFS1+J volume, but I can use geom_label on an 'unjournalled' ad1p4 partition. Of course I use geom_label for / and it has no journal. The setup is: $ uname -a FreeBSD screwed.box 7.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.4-PRERELEASE #8: Thu Feb 17 13:03:24 MSK 2011 toor@screwed.box:/usr/local/obj/usr/local/src/sys/JUICY i386 # fdisk /dev/ad1 ******* Working on device /dev/ad1 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=155061 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=155061 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Media sector size is 512 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: sysid 238 (0xee),(EFI GPT) start 1, size 156301487 (76319 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1; end: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63 The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: # gpart show ad1 => 34 156301421 ad1 GPT (75G) 34 128 1 freebsd-boot (64K) 162 2999729 2 freebsd-ufs (1.4G) 2999891 7000000 3 freebsd-swap (3.3G) 9999891 146301564 4 freebsd-ufs (70G) # gjournal list Geom name: gjournal 1645160533 ID: 1645160533 Providers: 1. Name: ad1p4.journal Mediasize: 73832658432 (69G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 Consumers: 1. Name: ad1p4 Mediasize: 74906400768 (70G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 Jend: 74906400256 Jstart: 73832658432 Role: Data,Journal # dumpfs -m /usr/local # newfs command for /usr/local (/dev/ad1p4.journal) newfs -L mess00 -O 1 -a 16 -b 8192 -d 8192 -e 1024 -f 1024 -g 16384 -h 128 -m 8 -o time -s 144168960 /dev/ad1p4.journal # df -hi /usr/local Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on /dev/ad1p4.journal 67G 58G 3.1G 95% 2.0M 16M 11% /usr/local # wc -l < /etc/fstab 242 so it's enough to know that ad1p4.journal is an /usr/local. Should I place /tmp on a different volume for 'fast' fsck -p feature? It's a symlink by now: tmp -> var/tmp and var -> /usr/local/var I see nothing I can use for a guess about a fsck_ufs segfault. The dumps and a core are there: http://119out.smtp.ru/kdump.out http://119out.smtp.ru/ktrace.out http://119out.smtp.ru/truss.out http://119out.smtp.ru/_fsck_ufs.core.gz The cold reboot is caused by cpu overheating and I'm absolutely sure of other parts of hardware, especially the HDD. I just made a cpu more silent ( and sometimes hot ). But typically it happens when sound outputs from the c-media built-in. fsck -y has no problems and lost+founds are typically only a few inodes, may be 5. I tried with unionfs on a volume in a past but I believe I wiped the whiteouts out since then. The only fsck -p passed I saw after cold reboot were when I believe all of the files open on that volume were open read-only. Many thanks for any hints, clues and ideas on all of that. Should I file a PR better? 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 23:11:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CC31065673 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:11:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041AB8FC14 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:11:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.95]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DAD6516B4AB; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:11:24 -0600 (CST) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:11:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:10:59 -0600 (CST) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.6dollardialup.com To: Antonio Olivares In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="21774345-1329690331-1299971459=:4714" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Character shortcuts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:11:28 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --21774345-1329690331-1299971459=:4714 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Sat, 12 Mar 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Dear FreeBSD experts, > > There has been something that I find hard to do, I would like to find > a CTRL + KEY combination, or ALT + KEY combination to input special > characters like (=F1) [ALT + 164 or ALT + 0241 in Mr. Gates OS]. > > http://www.forlang.wsu.edu/help/keyboards.asp Several (all?) shells (bash, for one) and many editors will allow you to enter character codes if you hold the ALT key down and enter three decimal digits using the numeric key pad with the number lock on (not the number keys in the row above the letter keys). The problem is that what character you see varies according to what font you are using and what character set you declare. Freebsd keymaps are fairly easy to understand, and characters you use frequently can be assigned to key combinations that are easy to remember if you wish -- but you will not get the results you expect unless the character is where you expect it to be in the screen font you are using= =2E For Western European languages, if you want the Euro, iso-8859-15 (aka Latin9) is perhaps your best choice. The Euro replaces the squashed bug from iso-8859-1. Both of these support, for example, Spanish. You can choose a Spanish keymap which will make available characters you are likely to want (tilde n and N, for examples) as single strokes on your keyboard. Of course it won'= t change the keycaps on a keyboard manufactured for US use, but you can learn the keys or paint over the keycaps if it is your own keyboard. For example, tilde N/n is often the key marked :/; on keyboards made for the US= =2E The problem with console (VGA, text) fonts is that hardware to support more than 256 characters AT ONE TIME is not generally available. To get more characters at one time you have to draw the characters graphically, which i= s to say, you have to use a GUI. This is why a Windows font (or Xorg) font can have many more characters - because they draw characters instead of setting them in the video card. DOS is just as limited as the FreeBSD console, so comparing Windows to the FreeBSD console is as unfair as comparing Xorg fonts to DOS. > accents other symbols like copyright, euro, etc. I would like to do > the same(have a special key combination) to get the characters in > FreeBSD too, but googling have not found something that works. I even > tried to run a litte program in the shell to generate the characters > to use for cutting + pasting to no avial. > > But the characters after 127 are not printable :( using the pr-ascii scri= pt from > http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/wrapper.html Because there are no ASCII characters above 127. ASCII is a seven-bit standard. 127 is the greatest number that can be expressed in seven bits. VGA supports 8-bit character sets, but no 8-bit character set is ASCII. > u + 00F1 is the =F1,but I don't know which key combination gives the > same results as above. ALT+241 should work in iso-8859-1 (does not have the Euro) and iso-8859-15 (has the Euro). Gui editors that support unicode generally allow you to select characters that are not on the keyboard from a grid. Those editors may or may not have short cuts for character you use frequently. > A script/program(C,C++) that would generate > the characters would be nice, but if there is a key combination that > could be used to generate the special letters. > > Thanks in Advance, > > Antonio > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > > --=20 Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 --21774345-1329690331-1299971459=:4714-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 23:36:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990151065670 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:36:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60C698FC19 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:36:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31951 invoked by uid 0); 12 Mar 2011 23:36:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2011 23:36:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=CoiuxKi7n4Io9hkhdRt89xpREggBcM6nQMXyVDE6tJeBWSrfWadm+XNKNmmTvNKrts2ES2eNfmW/PAq/Q7AQQfYIQeJd1SR64wCbeMQrgE3GjPOL4oqpaCG5pmkpR6c1; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PyYM5-0006bJ-LT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:36:18 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:24:49 -0700 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:24:49 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110312232449.GA91695@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Character shortcuts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:36:19 -0000 --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 02:07:59PM -0600, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Dear FreeBSD experts, >=20 > There has been something that I find hard to do, I would like to find > a CTRL + KEY combination, or ALT + KEY combination to input special > characters like (=F1) [ALT + 164 or ALT + 0241 in Mr. Gates OS]. >=20 > http://www.forlang.wsu.edu/help/keyboards.asp >=20 > accents other symbols like copyright, euro, etc. I would like to do > the same(have a special key combination) to get the characters in > FreeBSD too, but googling have not found something that works. I even > tried to run a litte program in the shell to generate the characters > to use for cutting + pasting to no avial. I wrote this about setting up a Compose key a while back: entering special characters in Xorg http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=3D814 --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk18AMEACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUWfwCg3lKLAAtN9taeaRuWPUAhLzR0 5RQAnjRsFK9MJaU8vJCwhNxrweqYijUQ =mcFe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 23:47:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9095C106566C for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:47:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228428FC15 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:47:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2CNlAY4028362; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:47:10 GMT Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p2CNl9IX028325; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:47:10 GMT Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AD50533C1F; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:47:09 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:47:09 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Antonio Olivares Message-ID: <20110312234709.GC38813@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20110312224336.ade79718.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="S1BNGpv0yoYahz37" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Character shortcuts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:47:13 -0000 --S1BNGpv0yoYahz37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 03:57:31PM -0600, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:07:59 -0600, Antonio Olivares wrote: > >> Dear FreeBSD experts, > >> > >> There has been something that I find hard to do, I would like to find > >> a CTRL + KEY combination, or ALT + KEY combination to input special > >> characters like (=F1) =A0[ALT + 164 or ALT + 0241 in Mr. Gates OS]. > >> > >> http://www.forlang.wsu.edu/help/keyboards.asp > >> > >> accents other symbols like copyright, euro, etc. =A0I would like to do > >> the same(have a special key combination) to get the characters in > >> FreeBSD too, but googling have not found something that works. =A0I ev= en > >> tried to run a litte program in the shell to generate the characters > >> to use for cutting + pasting to no avial. > > [snip] >=20 > Thanks Frank & Polytropon for your input. I have students that bug me > with how to put the characters on their responses to their instructors > on the web pages via email. I tell them to open OpenOffice and insert > Special Character and then select the n with the tilde for the Spanish > work. But they wanted an easier way sort of the way BILL GATES OS has > it. And I told them I would ask so they could do it also in FreeBSD > and Linux land. One student told me that it mattered which ISO Header > were used? ISO 8*? but I told him you gotta be kidding me. There > has to be an easier way. The keyboards are standard US all using > English keyboards. It depends on how the webpage handles things. Just cutting and pasting will end up with indeterminate results because the way a webpage handles a Euro is different to how email handles a Euro (only iso8859-15 has a Euro character IIRC) which is different to how an xterm handles it... etc. >=20 > I know how to do it in \LaTeX{} or \TeX{}, > \~n, \' I don't suppose for a minute that all your students use LaTeX or you could just ask them to send an attached pdf. >=20 >=20 > but it does not matter for me, it is for them. They have to write to > their spanish instructors in dual enrollment credit. I tell them then > to open another page with the special letter and highlight them and > copy+paste them and they boo my answer :( Antonio, if they're writing to their Spanish instructors using a web to email gateway then their characters are likely to get mangled. If the gateway accepts attachments, then a pdf is the best bet: you know special characters wont get mangled. Tell your idle scum^H^H...students to learn LaTeX and a decent text editor ;) >=20 > Regards, >=20 >=20 > Antonio Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --S1BNGpv0yoYahz37 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk18BfwACgkQHduKvUAgeK7P+QCgr5UYkJE4S4TGiwGGki+EZAYV NIAAoMRPfW2swmTuJpH6MN5Px15Qq26I =y+aG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --S1BNGpv0yoYahz37--