From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 01:43:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F8B1065672 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 01:43:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4AE8FC15 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 01:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iakl21 with SMTP id l21so6157406iak.13 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:43:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nan9V62XWityb0F20QmPOIBn0oeuXe9rKrFmX9StCsM=; b=CdyQcwE17mt0Zf6zRyyjNrBE1fzuN2rZBtGg1IktFwRCfM9EXOqIV4emBEtDv6fenz GJAVmbckGCA13RhtBZl8pqR4fMOWtwQBTLmUFpUcUHPf5z5Ce7F1i/6jkfZVCbj/pCiw M/FrvqvCuu9UPBtALdDMmIj9eXCm9B6f+w+Y4= Received: by 10.68.34.67 with SMTP id x3mr11020607pbi.100.1321147031034; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:17:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm43370425pbj.18.2011.11.12.17.17.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:17:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EBF294D.6060306@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:19:57 -0800 From: Edward Martinez User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.2.20) Gecko/20110804 Thunderbird/3.1.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: apps to display cpu temp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 01:43:01 -0000 Hi, I have a Pentium 4 and i have been trying to get "coretemp" and "sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature" to display my Cpu temperture , however i have not had any luck using them Are there any other apps perhaps from ports that reports CPU temp? thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 02:01:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087EE106566B for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 02:01:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17C98FC08 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 02:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id pAD212CM071863 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:01:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id pAD2121v071862; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:01:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA25042; Sat, 12 Nov 11 17:48:41 PST Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:48:29 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: cpghost@cordula.ws Message-Id: <4ebf845d.Juuq2+mavLhMWmF6%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4EBE2D07.8080005@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Unix.Hacker@comcast.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What are the technical differences between Linux and BSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 02:01:06 -0000 "C. P. Ghost" wrote: > On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Allen wrote: > > ... > > Linux uses System V style Init. It's BASED on SunOS. Linus > > Torvalds said that when he started working on Linux, his reason > > for doing so, was that he wanted to run on HIS computer, the > > same thing he had been using at the University, which, was > > SunOS. He said his early inspiration for Linux was SunOS. > > > > Just because it uses System V init doesn't mean it's actually > > based on it... > > Yes, but I guess that Linus probably used early versions of SunOS 4 > which were not only BSD-based, but also not yet SysV-ied. If the inspiration for Linux was SunOS, it had to have been one of SunOS 3.x, SunOS 4.x aka Solaris 1.x, or SunOS 5.x aka Solaris 2.x. * SunOS 3.x and 4.x are ports of BSD 4.2 and/or 4.3 to Sun hardware. * SunOS 5.x is a port of System V Release 4 to Sun hardware -- and SVR4 was supposed to be the integration of BSD with the AT&T code base (although there's wide belief that BSD got the short end of the stick). Either way that leaves Linux as inspired by BSD, directly or indirectly. Whatever the inspiration, my understanding is that the detailed _specification_ came from SysV -- the original Linux having been Linus' independent reimplementation of the System V Interface Definition -- and that's the reason for it having used the SysV initialization approach. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 02:02:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8EF1065670 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 02:02:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA9F8FC12 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 02:02:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.16]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7173CD53; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 03:02:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id pAD22pCM003598; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 03:02:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 03:02:51 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Edward Martinez Message-Id: <20111113030251.ed94d59f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4EBF294D.6060306@gmail.com> References: <4EBF294D.6060306@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: apps to display cpu temp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 02:02:54 -0000 On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:19:57 -0800, Edward Martinez wrote: > Hi, > > > I have a Pentium 4 and i have been trying to get "coretemp" and > "sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature" to display my Cpu temperture , > however i have not had any luck using them > Are there any other apps perhaps from ports that reports CPU temp? I've been using the port "xmbmon" for that, in combination with device smbus device iicbus device iicsmb device iicbb device iic in the kernel configuration file - on a Pentium 4 system. I haven't tried the sysctl method, because xmbmon did work out of the box. :-) You can also use mbmon for text output. Here's an example from ~/.xinitrc calling xmbmon: xmbmon -g 150x100+0+897 \ -tmin 20.0 -tmax 70.0 \ -cmtmb CPU -cltmb blue \ -cmtcpu CS -cltcpu cyan \ -cmtcs SYS -cltcs green \ -vmin 2.0 -vmax 3.0 -cmvc V -clvc red & Depending on the sensor installation of your particular system, check if the different values do match the hardware. Maybe check from within your CMOS setup for reference values. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:54:24 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.325013 Message-ID: <1321152864.63708.YahooMailNeo@web122210.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:54:24 -0800 (PST) From: masayoshi To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: How to login to my jail from host itself (normal user) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: masayoshi List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 02:54:25 -0000 Hi,I am masayoshi.=0AIf you have enough time, please answer my question.=0A= =0AI must adduser Ayumi as normal user.=0AAfter adding her in jail, I add h= er in host.=0AThen I type the following command:=0A=0A# ln -s /usr/jails/ww= w/home/ayumi=A0 /home=0A=0AWhen she logins, she is in /usr/jails/www/home/a= yumi.=0ABut if she uses "cd" command, she can move directory.=0A=0AI would = like to keep her in jail because she is reckless.=0AI would like to know ho= w to login to my jail as normal user from host itself when login prompt app= ear.=0AIf possible, could you tell me how to do it?=0A=0AThanks in advance.= =0A=0A=0A=0A%uname -r=0A8.2-RELEASE-p4=0A=0A%pkg_info | grep ezjail=0Aezjai= l-3.1=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 A framework to easily create, manipulate a= nd run FreeBSD=0A=0A=0A%ifconfig em0=0Aem0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu 1500=0A=A0=A0=A0 options=3D219b=0A=A0=A0=A0 ether= 00:19:d1:1e:1c:72=0A=A0=A0=A0 inet 192.168.0.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcas= t 192.168.0.255=0A=A0=A0=A0 inet 192.168.0.20 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast = 192.168.0.20=0A=A0=A0=A0 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX )=0A=A0=A0=A0 status: active=0A=0A%jls=0A=A0=A0 JID=A0 IP Address=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 Hostname=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0 Path=0A=A0=A0=A0=A0 1=A0 192.168.0.20=A0=A0=A0 www=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 /usr/jails/www=0A= =0A=A0=0A---=0AInexperienced FreeBSD user: Level 3=0Amasayoshi & Ayumi Kino= shita=0Ahttp://tinyurl.com/63zg3op From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 06:31:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C9C106566B for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:31:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saeedeh.motlagh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273D08FC08 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:30:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws11 with SMTP id 11so6444719vws.13 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:30:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jTvx4VHRhNpJMego53hLMT743W+KozMJGDC3rZihNww=; b=NFj72fPFMrO2FToAV3JSABOGz+inv6b/oC3IZuJNUjw55zitkRSfiIj5I32p7HB+bF Qr0IVZbsJgRBaFw0rYbDEeijsz7tVkR8tcLJZ35ItXKwabQiFTzf/vhEEdla2mOt/MNP yqMckgrmEKQa4JRlWNTBUgTDsjzOvGNI0U6bA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.27.72 with SMTP id r8mr28879353vdg.71.1321165859373; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:30:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.115.65 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:30:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EBE5435.5030306@otenet.gr> References: <4EBC4EF3.3080404@otenet.gr> <4EBE5435.5030306@otenet.gr> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:00:59 +0330 Message-ID: From: saeedeh motlagh To: Manolis Kiagias Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: changing baud rate without recompiling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:31:00 -0000 sure, thanks. On 11/12/11, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > On 12/11/2011 1:02 =EC=EC, saeedeh motlagh wrote: >> thanks for your reply >> it's good but includes recompiling again. i don't want to recompile in >> any way. is there any other solution for doing that? i don't think >> so:(. are you sure recompiling is the only way to change the baud >> rate? >> thanks for your attention >> > > Like you, everything else I tried simply did not work. If you do find > something that works I'd be pleased to hear it. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 09:24:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A96F106564A for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:24:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2A78FC08 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pAD9O4aa019636 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:24:05 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk pAD9O4aa019636 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1321176245; bh=X83A9i5fI6FsxfjuZUAT62USNQqTDU/1ysnjhXn+RpA=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=z70sG8Yf52uygEHHIfGasA1V5/VctbjUUMVsMEv42Vqft4Q6GRVWus7IGi3aCSAoM qNPuWyY7He0mxH1o94Fc+vtNqwQsLRjgxRDSR6mHnP8HOLDehM+aQkhRhKW7iAIX18 IC/cwBX3Q7C3sECOsE165PxdBPvxbE6T0YzBTkaA= Message-ID: <4EBF8CAD.8000003@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:23:57 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: masayoshi References: <1321152864.63708.YahooMailNeo@web122210.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1321152864.63708.YahooMailNeo@web122210.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8A2557824EC6A5DE5E39092E" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to login to my jail from host itself (normal user) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:24:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8A2557824EC6A5DE5E39092E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13/11/2011 02:54, masayoshi wrote: > I must adduser Ayumi as normal user. > After adding her in jail, I add her in host. > Then I type the following command: >=20 > # ln -s /usr/jails/www/home/ayumi /home >=20 > When she logins, she is in /usr/jails/www/home/ayumi. > But if she uses "cd" command, she can move directory. >=20 > I would like to keep her in jail because she is reckless. > I would like to know how to login to my jail as normal user from host i= tself when login prompt appear. > If possible, could you tell me how to do it? >=20 > Thanks in advance. >=20 I assume simply using a restricted shell like rbash is unsuitable? And that you cannot simply give your user an unprivileged login account -- without root access, while they may be able to chdir around the system, there's not much damage they can do accidentally. (Although users are endlessly inventive when it comes to breaking things...) When you say 'login' do you mean at the console? That's going to be fairly tricky to enforce. However if you mean logging in over the net by eg. ssh then to confine the user to a jail is pretty easy. Enable sshd in the jail -- usually this means configuring sshd the host to bind to specific IP numbers rather than '*'. See jail(8) for more details. Then you give the user a working login and password in the jail and not on the host system. Either delete the account in the host or set the login shell to /sbin/nologin and lock the password. Now, if you want to support console based logins direct to a jail. As far as I know, this is not possible with the FreeBSD console. It would be a really cool thing to be able to do though. Dedicate one of the console vty's to the jail... Unfortunately I don't think that's going to be impossible without code changes to the OS. The problem is init(8) -- the master process on the system, and the process that controls each of the getty(8) programs that watch for login attempts on the various terminals -- that program would require modification so that it knew how to associate a particular vty with a jail, and then manage the login process to create a new login session within the jail. About the only way I can think of doing this for a console login is to use X and set up xdm(8) to enable its remote login capability, in which case you get a pull-down on the login screen to allow you to choose which host to log into. But I've never tried to set up a system like this, so I can't really say if its possible or not. My educated guess is that it should work, but it's quite an ambitious project for a beginne= r. It would be nice if you could just force the login process on the host to run something like 'jexec -U $USER 1 /bin/tcsh' but that's a command you need root privilege for, so scratch that. Also, it's pretty dodgy to assume that the jail you want is always going to be running with JID=3D= 1. If you can rely on your user to follow instructions, then you can just tell them to 'ssh jailhost' immediately they login to the host, and set up sshd in the jail as described above. This means they will have to have a working login on the host system, but you can make that be an unprivileged account without root access or access to anything else sensitive. Their account in the jail can have root there, no problem. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig8A2557824EC6A5DE5E39092E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6/jLQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIz9RgCeOjU10jMu7eEmLDe63RJW8gMD bOYAoJN4TyRcf/QMca9vuNY1w3CXdgBU =PUPX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8A2557824EC6A5DE5E39092E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 10:45:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD7A1065674 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:45:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo103.cox.net (eastrmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCC58FC0A for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo110.cox.net ([68.230.241.223]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111113104502.MQPM28068.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net> for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 05:45:02 -0500 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.86.236]) by eastrmimpo110.cox.net with bizsmtp id wal11h00F55wwzE02al2aS; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 05:45:02 -0500 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020208.4EBF9FAE.0043,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=12 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ZOt2FDQ+mrVVVxgXRKzf5SW5Jh1jLT8p/GDSgGTHel4= c=1 sm=1 a=RWe5u1kQBc0A:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=rdbVvl8t2-9q8vPmoKAA:9 a=ZxBX8hNBQkvqEv6WBewA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pADAj1ka094411 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:45:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:44:56 -0600 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111113044456.431cb4b2@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <20111023192515.5c3da303@cox.net> References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> <44vcrtohej.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20111013162524.GA75476@freebsd.org> <44wrc8iz09.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20111018195712.GA18773@freebsd.org> <4E9F7899.6070401@centurytel.net> <20111020051902.1d120865.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111023153829.216f1a49@cox.net> <20111023192515.5c3da303@cox.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD (or any other media now) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:45:08 -0000 On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:25:15 -0500 "Conrad J. Sabatier" wrote: > On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:38:29 -0500 > "Conrad J. Sabatier" wrote: > > > > No, it seems that there's a severe level of "brokenness" that has > > been introduced into the source tree with regards to CD devices. > > I've been exploring this issue on my own system the last couple of > > days, and am no closer to arriving at a solution than when I first > > started. > > > > None of the CD-related apps I have installed are working. cdcontrol > > will read an audio CD OK, it seems, but playback is useless, since, > > like most newer machines, I have no direct connection between the CD > > drive and the audio device. > > > > Apps such as kscd, xmcd, etc. report no disc or no device found. > > grip (using cdparanoia) will detect an audio disc and even fetch the > > correct cddb info, but ripping fails completely. xmms reports "no > > appropriate ioctl for device". > > > > This is progress? > > OK, I've made a little headway here. At least, I've managed to get > cdrtools to work once again, after rebuilding/installing the port and > setting the default device to the SCSI address (1,0,0) of cd0 instead > of the device name. Grip is now working with cdda2wav. > Hallelujah! :-) > > Still can't seem to get plain old audio CD playback working with > anything, though. :-( > Ah-ha! After plowing through a ton of ports and docs tonight, I finally had a "Eureka!" moment. It seems that it's quite possible to fashion a "poor man's" CD player app (script) out of the following cdda2wav command options (got this example from the man page): cdda2wav -q -e -t4 -d0 -N In this case, "-t4" means to play track 4. Using "-B" instead, would play the whole disc. The command simply sends the data to the soundcard (/dev/dsp) as it's being ripped. In combination with a few other cdda2wav options to obtain the CDDB info for the disc, one could fairly easily whip up a little CD player script. I'm a man on a mission now! :-) I *will* be "rolling up my sleeves" and hacking together some shell code in the days to come. May even wind up submitting the finished product as a new port for the benefit of other folks out there still struggling to play their CDs since the CD infrastructure changed not too long ago. Light! I see light at the end of the tunnel! :-) -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 12:32:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C5510657C3 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:31:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81958FC0A for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (exit1.ipredator.se [93.182.132.100]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 77A475AAF for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:57:07 +0400 (MSK) Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:31:33 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111113102449.GA16065@external.screwed.box> References: <1321152864.63708.YahooMailNeo@web122210.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4EBF8CAD.8000003@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4EBF8CAD.8000003@infracaninophile.co.uk> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: How to login to my jail from host itself (normal user) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:32:01 -0000 Hello. 2011/11/13 09:23:57 +0000 Matthew Seaman => To masayoshi : MS> On 13/11/2011 02:54, masayoshi wrote: MS> > I would like to keep her in jail because she is reckless. Wow! MS> Now, if you want to support console based logins direct to a jail. As MS> far as I know, this is not possible with the FreeBSD console. It would MS> be a really cool thing to be able to do though. Dedicate one of the MS> console vty's to the jail... Unfortunately I don't think that's going MS> to be impossible without code changes to the OS. The problem is init(8) MS> -- the master process on the system, and the process that controls each MS> of the getty(8) programs that watch for login attempts on the various MS> terminals -- that program would require modification so that it knew how MS> to associate a particular vty with a jail, and then manage the login MS> process to create a new login session within the jail. I'd find it obvious to try to launch getty by mean of jexec by setting the command in /etc/ttys? Something like that: ttyv0 "/usr/sbin/jexec `cat /var/run/some_jail.id` /usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 12:41:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202371065673 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6798FC08 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:41:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk3 with SMTP id k3so7677264ggn.13 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:41:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.175.4 with SMTP id y4mr7890415yhl.128.1321188091000; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f14sm25971169ani.8.2011.11.13.04.41.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:41:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3ShF3D1ggQz2CG4m for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:41:28 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:41:27 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111113074127.6a21b784@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20111113044456.431cb4b2@cox.net> References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> <44vcrtohej.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20111013162524.GA75476@freebsd.org> <44wrc8iz09.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20111018195712.GA18773@freebsd.org> <4E9F7899.6070401@centurytel.net> <20111020051902.1d120865.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111023153829.216f1a49@cox.net> <20111023192515.5c3da303@cox.net> <20111113044456.431cb4b2@cox.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD (or any other media now) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:41:33 -0000 On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:44:56 -0600 Conrad J. Sabatier articulated: > On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:25:15 -0500 > "Conrad J. Sabatier" wrote: > > > On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:38:29 -0500 > > "Conrad J. Sabatier" wrote: > > > > > > No, it seems that there's a severe level of "brokenness" that has > > > been introduced into the source tree with regards to CD devices. > > > I've been exploring this issue on my own system the last couple of > > > days, and am no closer to arriving at a solution than when I first > > > started. > > > > > > None of the CD-related apps I have installed are working. > > > cdcontrol will read an audio CD OK, it seems, but playback is > > > useless, since, like most newer machines, I have no direct > > > connection between the CD drive and the audio device. > > > > > > Apps such as kscd, xmcd, etc. report no disc or no device found. > > > grip (using cdparanoia) will detect an audio disc and even fetch > > > the correct cddb info, but ripping fails completely. xmms > > > reports "no appropriate ioctl for device". > > > > > > This is progress? > > > > OK, I've made a little headway here. At least, I've managed to get > > cdrtools to work once again, after rebuilding/installing the port > > and setting the default device to the SCSI address (1,0,0) of cd0 > > instead of the device name. Grip is now working with cdda2wav. > > Hallelujah! :-) > > > > Still can't seem to get plain old audio CD playback working with > > anything, though. :-( > > > > Ah-ha! After plowing through a ton of ports and docs tonight, I > finally had a "Eureka!" moment. > > It seems that it's quite possible to fashion a "poor man's" CD player > app (script) out of the following cdda2wav command options (got this > example from the man page): > > cdda2wav -q -e -t4 -d0 -N > > In this case, "-t4" means to play track 4. Using "-B" instead, would > play the whole disc. > > The command simply sends the data to the soundcard (/dev/dsp) as it's > being ripped. In combination with a few other cdda2wav options to > obtain the CDDB info for the disc, one could fairly easily whip up a > little CD player script. > > I'm a man on a mission now! :-) I *will* be "rolling up my sleeves" > and hacking together some shell code in the days to come. May even > wind up submitting the finished product as a new port for the benefit > of other folks out there still struggling to play their CDs since the > CD infrastructure changed not too long ago. > > Light! I see light at the end of the tunnel! :-) I applaud your enthusiasm. I actually tend to try and reinvent the wheel from time to time myself. Not so much because I feel the wheel has an inherent flaw but rather because I just like a good challenge. While such endeavors might prove useful from strictly a theoretical research point of view, in practice they can seriously reduce productivity. I often wonder what happened to the premise that computers should make man's life easier, not harder. Why should users be force to go to these extremes to just play an audio CD when other OSs all ready have that capability sans ruminating for such a simple task. Again, good luck. I won't be partaking of your research since I have other PCs near me that are fully capable of preforming the relatively simple task of playing an audio CD. However, if you do get some free time perhaps you could invest it in some really socially advantageous work such as find a cure for cancer. Now that would be something that all could appreciate. -- Jerry вњЊ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 12:54:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE327106564A for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F598FC13 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:54:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (tor3.anonymizer.ccc.de [80.237.226.73]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E20835A80 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:19:48 +0400 (MSK) Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:53:49 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111113125349.GB21911@external.screwed.box> References: <44vcrtohej.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20111013162524.GA75476@freebsd.org> <44wrc8iz09.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20111018195712.GA18773@freebsd.org> <4E9F7899.6070401@centurytel.net> <20111020051902.1d120865.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111023153829.216f1a49@cox.net> <20111023192515.5c3da303@cox.net> <20111113044456.431cb4b2@cox.net> <20111113074127.6a21b784@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111113074127.6a21b784@scorpio> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD (or any other media now) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:54:46 -0000 Hello. 2011/11/13 07:41:27 -0500 Jerry => To FreeBSD : J> I often wonder what happened to the premise that computers should make J> man's life easier, not harder. Why should users be force to go to these But probably it's easier to plug the wire from cd drive to a sound card? That way one should get a mixer's separate "CD" volume regulator at no cost... But sure this makes impossible the any processing like this: cdda2wav | tee /some/file > /dev/dsp Either way has its advantages and drawbacks. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 13:04:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2D4106564A for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:04:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767F68FC18 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:04:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pADD4kNI022477 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:04:46 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk pADD4kNI022477 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1321189486; bh=mG9ewZc+kcCEzJZc1y5pcMKSy3+J/GHnAklKhJbumgw=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=SAyOET9ovgHibMjd27De8H/UaOsF/5387xPkJokq/bo9OV2Ks5GfD9KpZ7wvDU2Pe G5QVbH61+LwbQ544W5fREmlLPqTo3cZobkjFC36QFcMCiMe6KvNoqTFRO+WWbgaYYc oPLJmybuKUTCY9bN0BBCRb4aEJEneNC6+dBUi0e4= Message-ID: <4EBFC064.9040205@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:04:36 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1321152864.63708.YahooMailNeo@web122210.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4EBF8CAD.8000003@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20111113102449.GA16065@external.screwed.box> In-Reply-To: <20111113102449.GA16065@external.screwed.box> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7926672EF8B23B33C78E8CF2" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: How to login to my jail from host itself (normal user) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:04:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7926672EF8B23B33C78E8CF2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13/11/2011 12:31, Peter Vereshagin wrote: > I'd find it obvious to try to launch getty by mean of jexec by setting = the command in /etc/ttys? >=20 > Something like that: >=20 > ttyv0 "/usr/sbin/jexec `cat /var/run/some_jail.id` /usr/libexec/g= etty Pc" cons25 on secure >=20 That might work. Needs testing though -- when someone logs in does init in the host system recognize that the jailed login has taken over the vty from the jail? Or does it just keep spawning new getty processes? Lets see... lucid-nonsense:/etc:# diff -u ttys.save ttys --- ttys.save 2011-11-13 12:49:28.868350588 +0000 +++ ttys 2011-11-13 12:50:10.609176357 +0000 @@ -38,7 +38,7 @@ ttyv4 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv5 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv6 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure -ttyv7 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure +ttyv7 "/usr/sbin/jexec 1 /usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure # Serial terminals # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc. lucid-nonsense:/etc:# kill -HUP 1 lucid-nonsense:/etc:# jexec 1 ps -ax | grep getty 22182 v7 Is+J 0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv7 Looking good so far... Wanders into the other room and logs in on the console -- vty7, which identifies itself as the jail. lucid-nonsense:/etc:# ps -auxwww | grep v7 root 22182 0.0 0.0 21700 1676 v7 IsJ 12:50PM 0:00.06 login [pam] (login) matthew 22293 0.0 0.0 10312 2524 v7 IJ 12:53PM 0:00.07 -tcsh (tcsh) matthew 22299 0.0 0.0 9372 1668 v7 S+J 12:53PM 0:00.11 top root 22362 0.0 0.0 9124 1192 1 S+ 12:56PM 0:00.00 grep v= 7 Seems to work nicely. Now, does logout work properly? Logs out of the jail lucid-nonsense:/etc:# ps -auxwww | grep v7 root 22390 0.0 0.0 6916 1028 v7 Is+J 12:59PM 0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv7 Yep. All works nicely. That's really cool. Definitely needs care to make sure the jail ID matches up to the intended jail. Using mm@freebsd.org's updated jail init stuff from the sysutils/jailrc port and enabling persistent jails probably the way to go there. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig7926672EF8B23B33C78E8CF2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6/wG0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIymdACfdcRJ1ueCvp0UCIlwXLxQr+cx XT0AnijK1HKp8ADzzzpOw5P9qiVCPoQ4 =X+dI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7926672EF8B23B33C78E8CF2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 13:06:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B129D106566C for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:06:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.harrisons@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463A88FC14 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so4035299wyf.13 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 05:06:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=oFw3WwE7PiLlE4+EIVJWlS/LfJUBypu0URBG+a2Uhao=; b=lnMueGzXfDyPkePu/KA0WnsI9tNtXqA2g2DzQFh6OgltpUfxmcJWf0m8uEPl4Jp+oU LIGsGKw9I0jUbQXI/sC8eDS37wM5plvuLBCbJQgsSOuFmD/0MdO/hKv8F30Jqvf8D8V4 BvgrCMccztiMhbgrqrtjp8DjN279DA+1q5sgI= Received: by 10.180.92.163 with SMTP id cn3mr21038180wib.26.1321187836492; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:37:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.12] (client-81-97-73-18.mcr-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net. [81.97.73.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id en10sm13285732wbb.0.2011.11.13.04.37.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:37:16 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Harrison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:37:14 +0000 Message-Id: <83F75606-8C2C-45E6-A408-FC11C7306A06@googlemail.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: Subject: Default Samba port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:06:50 -0000 Hello list, Can anyone advise me the appropriate Samba port to install - the = handbook refers to samba34, but I see samba35 and samba36 in in ports. = This is for a home server, so I'm not necessarily looking for production = standard, but something that "just works" on RELEASE-8.2 amd64. Thanks, Peter Harrison.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 15:02:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC96106564A for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:02:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB8F8FC13 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl11 with SMTP id l11so452841yen.13 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:02:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6Gk899oCCm5yHD6zQshf7u/7xJJrvht2fUsxLPaZjQ8=; b=pbILyMi5e9jfGfAeTjn7pRodIC54ac2egO4pH6akQAgor6SlZ3cHhUAhYI3EyUVho3 kYgX79vtIYbk7vR4MUCWpZkkToDZGTqJRNUiMwpB0TXX3XRByxjoZ1rpwip+PxRxHrAU qAJm5gTT7+HHqr/czK/hKJQ/Lx8szFjmQrA3E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.179.2 with SMTP id g2mr8498818yhm.27.1321195152791; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.69.195 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:39:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83F75606-8C2C-45E6-A408-FC11C7306A06@googlemail.com> References: <83F75606-8C2C-45E6-A408-FC11C7306A06@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:39:12 -0800 Message-ID: From: pete wright To: Peter Harrison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default Samba port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:02:46 -0000 On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 4:37 AM, Peter Harrison wrote: > Hello list, > > Can anyone advise me the appropriate Samba port to install - the handbook= refers to samba34, but I see samba35 and samba36 in in ports. This is for = a home server, so I'm not necessarily looking for production standard, but = something that "just works" on RELEASE-8.2 amd64. > your best bet may be to install a prebuilt package via: pgk_add -r samba that is unless you need some non-standard knobs tuned. -pete --=20 pete wright www.nycbug.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 15:36:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776F11065670 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:36:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396028FC0A for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywe9 with SMTP id 9so2546277ywe.13 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:36:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aP9VMH2uL2yMKTT6tlqL/HnHuup10jmtBB0XlOndLAI=; b=PFqPTuj2s7RA8+NsiYeOZGoRCAey6WRBHNItLPAL32Wvxl8jxZslHkJk7RH5tOXbi5 2hAVjLKJID29RBerHYSQpCDrNS+RQi6qcDC+6zLrrDl/uIM1SwJdSY0Znu831nxh3WMi kCX29eoAVD1q1nHdK2/VckpWYImG/N0Q0VAXI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.197.9 with SMTP id s9mr8968347yhn.71.1321198600563; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:36:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.138.9 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:36:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83F75606-8C2C-45E6-A408-FC11C7306A06@googlemail.com> References: <83F75606-8C2C-45E6-A408-FC11C7306A06@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:36:40 -0500 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Default Samba port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:36:41 -0000 On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Peter Harrison wrote: > Can anyone advise me the appropriate Samba port to install - the handbook= refers to samba34, but I see samba35 and samba36 in in ports. This is for = a home server, so I'm not necessarily looking for production standard, but = something that "just works" on RELEASE-8.2 amd64. samba36 is the current stable version. The other two are kept for legacy compatibility. 35 and 34 are the last version in those branches. Don't worry about them. The handbook has not been updated for two major revisions of samba. This is a comment for the others on the list, not directly at you: maybe ports like this should have a directory samba that always points to the most recent stable version. Then the handbook would not need to be updated to reflect version changes like this. It would only need to be updated if the actual instructions change or become outdated? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 16:05:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1375E106564A for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:05:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23248FC08 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:05:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iakl21 with SMTP id l21so6994040iak.13 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:05:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GZQeuJLZeDNiUftUoqq269ND5mehnjddKzLSf+nDIVE=; b=C9QKopba/ap+fR1G6wpeDZaz1X8uzBMS6ko65gPX8b0lvgtYL/yYvWIsucingB2tCU k5PjaAlzpWATc5EvUmaPfXy7oDomoyU9rtFHpYvfAh2EcpQTkIowg+Sd4MlkkLfzE2jG ZXmvC9TJiGQPCmyDR4pUhfAe8EuxLI1BaL7G4= Received: by 10.231.6.102 with SMTP id 38mr4459084iby.62.1321198668726; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:37:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (c-98-212-197-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.212.197.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n30sm26084906ibl.4.2011.11.13.07.37.46 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:37:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EBFE438.8060403@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:37:28 -0600 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EBF294D.6060306@gmail.com> <20111113030251.ed94d59f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20111113030251.ed94d59f.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: apps to display cpu temp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:05:57 -0000 On 11/12/2011 8:02 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:19:57 -0800, Edward Martinez wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> I have a Pentium 4 and i have been trying to get "coretemp" and >> "sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature" to display my Cpu temperture , >> however i have not had any luck using them >> Are there any other apps perhaps from ports that reports CPU temp? > > I've been using the port "xmbmon" for that, in > combination with > > device smbus > device iicbus > device iicsmb > device iicbb > device iic > > in the kernel configuration file - on a Pentium 4 > system. I haven't tried the sysctl method, because > xmbmon did work out of the box. :-) You can also > use mbmon for text output. > > Here's an example from ~/.xinitrc calling xmbmon: > > xmbmon -g 150x100+0+897 \ > -tmin 20.0 -tmax 70.0 \ > -cmtmb CPU -cltmb blue \ > -cmtcpu CS -cltcpu cyan \ > -cmtcs SYS -cltcs green \ > -vmin 2.0 -vmax 3.0 -cmvc V -clvc red& > > Depending on the sensor installation of your > particular system, check if the different values > do match the hardware. Maybe check from within > your CMOS setup for reference values. > > > > For amd, I use dev.cpu.0.temperature. For some reason, it's 15 degrees off compared to the bios and linux. I used benchmarks/stress along with setting specific frequencies to figure out where linux and where freebsd would hit a temperature limit. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 18:43:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F18106564A for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3C98FC14 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws11 with SMTP id 11so6712931vws.13 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:43:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=aBF4hEcJeBswJ5au1KYytc1sLs+cTbdegLlB6/y0Ja8=; b=SdNp6W7IwnPUxmI2B6h69XxTdJOqC1n8LHrGwMkVW9mLk4SH5IEF271x0S2j3qQhNz JsdUKjqWWKrFTL4VxBQnguswtouxCLypqzM5KwwtU3RzvyTmD3lsuyVO++FsPJP3zfoW daEy0kD9VuomoEbkcUwIaemhEMAw8vKpNhzuc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.72.227 with SMTP id g3mr31539936vdv.10.1321208131208; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:15:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.101.132 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:15:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EA5FCCE.9030402@centurytel.net> References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> <44vcrtohej.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20111013162524.GA75476@freebsd.org> <44wrc8iz09.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20111018195712.GA18773@freebsd.org> <4E9F7899.6070401@centurytel.net> <20111020051902.1d120865.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111023153829.216f1a49@cox.net> <20111023192515.5c3da303@cox.net> <4EA4BFBF.6090400@centurytel.net> <20111024132403.0b72724b@cox.net> <4EA5FCCE.9030402@centurytel.net> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:15:31 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: "Michael D. Norwick" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "Conrad J. Sabatier" , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD (or any other media now) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:43:31 -0000 On 10/25/11, Michael D. Norwick wrote: > Setting these environment variables had no effect on my machine. > $cdcontrol play 1 still produces drive activity but no sound. The > graphical apps I am trying such as Abraca, or MPlayer, still do not seem > to recognize an audio CD. Gnome Audio CD Extractor - Sound Juicer - > still errors with 'No CD-ROM drives found' even though Metallica is in > the drive. mplayer needs to be compiled with libcdio to support playing cdda:// & cddb:// Then you only need to give -cdrom-device argument to mplayer. But you do not need that, something like this will work just fine (from mplayer manual page): mplayer [cdda|cddb]://track[-endtrack][:speed][/device] [options] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 19:18:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C48F1065672; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6607C8FC0A; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:18:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so4252220wyf.13 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:18:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=f90tR+WrWlCniuZdV7AfwJghiIn2WXXVXoRNQXbHNCo=; b=g8BfgNZvOuIPhdHBQPhtNn5Yv6O5o+PglTagWU6PAGb/s67Ob8M/8sq7RzSb8e2VFW DsXdvceo9Wlc7WEUhg5P2uCNW8Ga7K8WSn27Tj0NEA2o4v5x8YQ1Yz+8GjLmTgvUbwTu jr1jZAio6gqWNxtPyFOc7sVeTPxkZr24vu4kU= Received: by 10.216.9.204 with SMTP id 54mr713253wet.1.1321211895543; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:18:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.dg (41-132-93-69.dsl.mweb.co.za. [41.132.93.69]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e7sm22003315wbh.12.2011.11.13.11.18.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:18:14 -0800 (PST) From: David Naylor To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:18:04 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-RC2; KDE/4.7.1; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1542121.jgvgO9sxss"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201111132118.08133.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.32 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:18:19 -0000 --nextPart1542121.jgvgO9sxss Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.3.32 have been uploaded to mediafire [2]. =20 These packages include the patch (first version) from bug report 27653=20 (http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D27653). This fixes logging in fo= r EVE=20 Online. =20 There is a known UDP related problem with wine (see=20 http://markmail.org/message/i7rtfz7uxd5s4fvl for details). Also, there are= =20 many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled world (help in=20 fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a few users). =20 The patch [3] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run on= =20 installation (if the relevant files are accessable). Please read the=20 installation messages for further information. =20 Regards, David [1]=20 MD5 (freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.3.32,1.tbz) =3D 4e05528f6e26004b4bcd3e1dafb5e= 821 MD5 (freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.3.32,1.txz) =3D 7951f88480723aee516fe211ad5a6= 950 [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 [3] The patch is located at /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh --nextPart1542121.jgvgO9sxss Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAk7AF/AACgkQUaaFgP9pFrKpcgCZATJ+4v/Wjtm/vVf/czHXETTc IfwAn0j6ODsr/qWvDV3ONLoPDg3QWzu/ =U00j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1542121.jgvgO9sxss-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 20:50:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D5F1065678 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 20:50:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dario@dariobossi.com) Received: from firefly.c1.site5.com (firefly.c1.site5.com [174.120.98.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DFF8FC13 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 20:50:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by firefly.c1.site5.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAEFCA6DCE for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:35:49 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at firefly.c1.site5.com Received: from firefly.c1.site5.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (firefly.c1.site5.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2dNUAmA7B4eK for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:35:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from 192.168.0.100 (unknown [195.72.221.133]) by firefly.c1.site5.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D7037A60C4 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:35:48 -0600 (CST) From: "Dario Bossi" To: "freebsd-questions" Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:35:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20111113205055.94D5F1065678@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Nuovo messaggio X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 20:50:55 -0000 Ciao, firma anche tu l'appello per il reato di omicidio stradale: http://omicidiostradale.it/ saluti, Dario Bossi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 22:52:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C77106566B for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:52:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eirnym@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083668FC14 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:52:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywe9 with SMTP id 9so2766225ywe.13 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:52:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=zZfKtS5rojXHCIaRpTM05Jkq018bFmJhWVLB9uyAmzk=; b=BWSBr1JbV6lk4v7WTrbAowlz4vX5EBTDoZvqdfUKZez8f0IsWWqFQ6FYvqAFwRaZMD W7XF1X5gjEtr+lZv6LKwiHLYmZFRZGJynIzALAIgGPa/Msg/SPp1xQnDiVuWmu/I4kIK INI7Vi3MX0MX78GRZhnYo4AQotW4LKrMcar1U= Received: by 10.182.50.65 with SMTP id a1mr345711obo.17.1321224773093; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:52:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.28.227 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:52:29 -0800 (PST) From: Eir Nym Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:52:29 +0400 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Mail Lists Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Subject: What is current VINET status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:52:54 -0000 I don't see it in NOTES for LINT and amd64/i386 arch, but it's possible to turn it on. Can I consider that this option is currently experimental and shouldn't be used critical places? -- Eir Nym From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 22:53:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131311065677 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eirnym@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCFBF8FC1F for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:53:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk3 with SMTP id k3so7978645ggn.13 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:53:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=ImkZeVTOzwn8lrA568zE9ynwZB6h1Xqb6xsWrQ4PGIo=; b=JV3p5dn1wJd/SJSQMFcs30/jn39/Wmb45UWZ69G3aF/WuzKPOcnu3A/kroSCzOjkSq ndQeCzYQBdc6/s17Iw3OTJsH2KaEfgQOO3O+kEsBjFPG2pbzhOpBRbFcxrYSis9qB/yT 28UQY2YLZivATKYUKHcHTFi9be4z4eVc2/Cok= Received: by 10.182.216.105 with SMTP id op9mr4476973obc.57.1321224833098; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:53:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.28.227 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:53:32 -0800 (PST) From: Eir Nym Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:53:32 +0400 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Mail Lists Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Subject: Re: What is current VIMAGE status? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:53:54 -0000 I'm sorry it's about VIMAGE option. -- Eir Nym On 14 November 2011 02:52, Eir Nym wrote: > I don't see it in NOTES for LINT and amd64/i386 arch, but it's > possible to turn it on. Can I consider that this option is currently > experimental and shouldn't be used critical places? > > -- Eir Nym > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 23:25:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDADE106564A for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:25:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2C18FC14 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:25:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id pADNPDOk099329 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:25:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id pADNPDx8099322; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:25:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA28690; Sun, 13 Nov 11 15:03:06 PST Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:02:53 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk Message-Id: <4ec0af0d.Jvu/Cnyj86sUAYPW%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <1321152864.63708.YahooMailNeo@web122210.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4EBF8CAD.8000003@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4EBF8CAD.8000003@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rockstar01@y7mail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to login to my jail from host itself (normal user) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:25:15 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > If you can rely on your user to follow instructions, then you > can just tell them to 'ssh jailhost' immediately they login to > the host ... Might it work equally well, and avoid the dependency on following instructions, to put exec ssh jailhost in this user's .login on the real host? 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Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:01:40 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.325013 References: <1321152864.63708.YahooMailNeo@web122210.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4EBF8CAD.8000003@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4ec0af0d.Jvu/Cnyj86sUAYPW%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Message-ID: <1321232500.30592.YahooMailNeo@web122205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:01:40 -0800 (PST) From: masayoshi To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <4ec0af0d.Jvu/Cnyj86sUAYPW%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: How to login to my jail from host itself (normal user) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: masayoshi List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:01:41 -0000 ----- Original Message -----=0A=0A> From: "perryh@pluto.rain.com" =0A> To: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk=0A> Cc: rockstar01@y= 7mail.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Sent: Monday, 14 November 2011= 3:02 PM=0A> Subject: Re: How to login to my jail from host itself (normal = user)=0A> =0A> Matthew Seaman wrote:=0A> = =0A>> If you can rely on your user to follow instructions, then you=0A>> = can just tell them to 'ssh jailhost' immediately they login to=0A>> the ho= st ...=0A> =0A> Might it work equally well, and avoid the dependency on fol= lowing=0A> instructions, to put=0A> =0A> =A0 exec ssh jailhost=0A> =0A> in = this user's .login on the real host?=0A=0A=0AFor me, as I am newbie, it is = simple,easy,very very cool idea.=0ANormal user can damage my computer in il= legal way.=0AThey want to have root authority without permission.=0A=0AShe = might kill even people. <3=0AThanks you for your advice.=0AI can keep her i= n jail on my host computer.=0A=0A=0A=A0=0A=0A=0A---=0AInexperienced FreeBSD= user: Level 3=0Amasayoshi & Ayumi Kinoshita=0Ahttp://tinyurl.com/63zg3op From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 01:17:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4F51065673 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:17:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (asmtp3.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F81A8FC0C for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:17:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAE1HNTq009221; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:17:23 GMT Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (host-92-22-130-66.as13285.net [92.22.130.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAE1HNa1009214; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:17:23 GMT Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1907633C1F; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:17:23 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:17:23 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Traiano Welcome Message-ID: <20111114011723.GA6965@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20111110193048.GD96452@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD make buildworld fail: cc: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:17:28 -0000 --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:51:29AM +0000, Traiano Welcome wrote: > > >Another question worth asking: how much memory/swap does the machine > >have? If FreeBSD runs short of memory, it will start killing > >processes. > > Hi Frank >=20 > As follows: >=20 > Mem: 96M Active, 286M Inact, 224M Wired, 213M Buf, 1368M Free > Swap: 4094M Total, 4094M Free >=20 > Note that this is FreeBSD system is installed in a Vmware VM. No swap > partition is configured as I expected the system to run entirely with RAM > as managed by the Vmware hypervisor and resource management technology. > Note that this machine is currently doing nothing else other than my > attempts at make buildworld. >=20 Hi Traiano, That looks OK. The only other thing I can think of is testing your memory with sysutils/memtest. It's unusual for it to die with SIGKILL though. Still it's worth ruling it out. Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk7AbCIACgkQHduKvUAgeK7PdwCfarH7TLxLnRj+v/upg2ukedh6 sAIAniQom5jGHtghm6SJXesSqiu+NAuO =xvT/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 07:42:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37101065673 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1238FC0A for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:42:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iakl21 with SMTP id l21so8020663iak.13 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:42:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xsZ1a7kmBUWC5Lucs1GFY4nkx76muRS8v5kZf1hgx/M=; b=vm1wcVJfdmk/BcYH8C3lYJUtc3+pyANbC3Ebe4Yz8R3D6aM2rFJs7uEFZfw5DP/c4h 0g1VLyL0eXy8QArlNB1c9/yO50asZygv0fe8yQK/izJMjfScWXf/o0U0GpVX6F4y2FeU v4B05A7jF2zj+JSgzOTesUdS1uZFVTrUFdoaw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.72.135 with SMTP id o7mr21783531icj.45.1321256521745; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.178.200 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:41:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1320670086.1756.2.camel@crashalot.rainbow-runner.nl> References: <1320670086.1756.2.camel@crashalot.rainbow-runner.nl> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:41:58 +0100 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Koop Mast Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: poppler-qt-0.16.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:42:02 -0000 Hi, Has anything been done to fix this? I don't believe it was already done: nothing changed in /usr/ports/UPDATING, also no instructions for portupgrade yet. I still get # pkg_version -VIL= poppler-qt-0.16.7 ! Comparaison failed # pkgdb -F Stale origin: 'graphics/poppler-qt': perhaps moved or obsoleted. (as last week..) 2011/11/7 Koop Mast > On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 12:28 +0100, n dhert wrote: > > Some changes where done about poppler-* > > There is an entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING about poppler-gtk (which I > > don't > > have), but I do have poppler-qt (nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING) ... > > # pkgdb -F > > gives > > Stale origin: 'graphics/poppler-qt': perhaps moved or obsoleted. > > Skip this for now? [yes] > > To skip it without asking in future, please list it in HOLD_PKGS. > > > > Is there a similar instruction for poppler-qt > > and for portupgrade (not postmaster which I don't have) ? > > > > poppler-qt is used here: > > # pkg_info -R poppler-qt-0.16.7 > > Information for poppler-qt-0.16.7: > > Required by: > > kdegraphics-3.5.10_9 > > > > Oops, I accidently wrote graphics/poppler-qt3 instead of poppler-qt, I > fix that thanks. The poppler support in kdegraphics3 has been disabled > so there isn't any problems. > > -Koop > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 09:23:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC71B1065670 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 09:23:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCEF8FC12 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 09:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwg14 with SMTP id 14so5925186wwg.31 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:23:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.185.204 with SMTP id u54mr32539wem.62.1321262615287; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:23:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm635496wby.5.2011.11.14.01.23.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:23:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC0DE12.2090800@my.gd> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:23:30 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD make buildworld fail: cc: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 09:23:36 -0000 On 11/11/11 11:43 AM, Traiano Welcome wrote: > > Most recent suggestions from Damien Fleuriot: > > [root@snmp-proxy02 /usr/src]# cat /etc/make.conf > > SUP_UPDATE= yes > SUP= /usr/bin/csup > SUPFLAGS= -zgL 2 > SUPHOST= cvsup2.za.freebsd.org > SUPFILE= /etc/cvsup/stable-supfile > PORTSSUPFILE= /etc/cvsup/ports-supfile > DOCSUPFILE= /etc/cvsup/doc-supfile > ENABLE_SUID_K5SU=YES > # added by use.perl 2011-11-09 12:33:48 > PERL_VERSION=5.10.1 > > > > > I see the same compile issue with both variants of my make.conf. > > To clarify, my suggestion has to do with the way you run your updates. These variables in /etc/make.conf allow you to forgo the manual use of "csup [args]" , and instead use: cd /usr/src ; make update It is not intended as a fix to your build issues and should have no effect on them whatsoever. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 09:25:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB65D106567D for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 09:25:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B018FC17 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 09:25:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so4777278wyf.13 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:25:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.80.71 with SMTP id j49mr1060284wee.23.1321262722526; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:25:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fw16sm24168521wbb.13.2011.11.14.01.25.21 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:25:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC0DE80.3060507@my.gd> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:25:20 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EBBCEEA.4040604@my.gd> <20111111115321.31fcf3ec.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20111111115321.31fcf3ec.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD make buildworld fail: cc: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 09:25:24 -0000 On 11/11/11 11:53 AM, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:45:15 +0000, Traiano Welcome wrote: >> And I don't seem to have a src.conf anywhere on my filesystem ... Hmmm. > > You'll have to create it yourself (just like /etc/make.conf). > See "man src.conf" for details. > I can't see any odd variables in your /etc/make.conf I would suggest trying to update from 8.0 to 8.1 first, instead of 8.0 -> 8.2 Please try this and see if you can successfully build the world. If you still can't, try "updating" from 8.0 to 8.0 (yes, I'm serious). See if you can build the world. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 10:00:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FD1106566B for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:00:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Traiano.Welcome@mtnbusiness.co.za) Received: from smtprelay01.ops.mtnbusiness.co.za (smtprelay01.ops.mtnbusiness.co.za [41.181.93.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED168FC12 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:00:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [196.30.97.135] (helo=CPT-EXCH01.int.mtnbusiness.net) by smtprelay01.ops.mtnbusiness.co.za with esmtp (ULTRA Special SMTP Internal Alpha) (envelope-from ) id 1RPtKo-000PuI-Bf; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:00:14 +0200 Received: from CPT-EXCH01.int.mtnbusiness.net ([196.30.97.135]) by cpt-exch01 ([196.7.22.110]) with mapi id 14.01.0218.012; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:59:32 +0200 From: Traiano Welcome To: Damien Fleuriot , freebsd questions Thread-Topic: FreeBSD make buildworld fail: cc: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1) Thread-Index: AQHMorQbvhZtt/A6X02/tQjlQOumww== Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 09:59:32 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4EC0DE80.3060507@my.gd> Accept-Language: en-US, en-ZA Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.0.0.100825 x-originating-ip: [196.30.72.139] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <0872C62291BD0A45A33067C5617E6FC6@int.mtnbusiness.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD make buildworld fail: cc: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:00:20 -0000 On 2011/11/14 11:25 AM, "Damien Fleuriot" wrote: > >On 11/11/11 11:53 AM, Polytropon wrote: >> On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:45:15 +0000, Traiano Welcome wrote: >>> And I don't seem to have a src.conf anywhere on my filesystem ... Hmmm. >>=20 >> You'll have to create it yourself (just like /etc/make.conf). >> See "man src.conf" for details. >>=20 > > > >I can't see any odd variables in your /etc/make.conf Me neither. This is a standard config I've used for hundreds of bsd machines (vms and real tin) so I doubt this has anything to do with ... Of course, source may change, requiring make.conf to change, but I'm spculating here :P > > >I would suggest trying to update from 8.0 to 8.1 first, instead of 8.0 >-> 8.2 Currently testing this ... > > >Please try this and see if you can successfully build the world. > > >If you still can't, try "updating" from 8.0 to 8.0 (yes, I'm serious). >See if you can build the world. > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 10:05:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1FB106567A for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:05:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from avasout06.plus.net (avasout06.plus.net [212.159.14.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996CF8FC1A for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout06.plus.net with smtp id wy5h1h00E516WCc01y5inb; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:05:42 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=BMsxXSsG c=1 sm=1 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=rLpCYgkgFLgA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=HrJerRfjSvb7KUThRnMA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1RPtQ5-0001JZ-Dd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:05:41 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:05:41 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <1320670086.1756.2.camel@crashalot.rainbow-runner.nl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201111141005.41304.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: poppler-qt-0.16.7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:05:45 -0000 On Monday 14 November 2011, n dhert wrote: > Has anything been done to fix this? > I don't believe it was already done: nothing changed in > /usr/ports/UPDATING, also no instructions for portupgrade yet. > I still get > # pkg_version -VIL=3D > poppler-qt-0.16.7 =A0 =A0 =A0 ! =A0 Comparaison failed > # pkgdb -F > Stale origin: 'graphics/poppler-qt': perhaps moved or obsoleted. Just pkg_delete poppler-qt-0.16.7 and everything will be fine providing=20 you've updated kdegraphics3. It was a bit more of a problem for me. I'm using portmaster and it=20 refused to continue with the rest of the upgrade until I'd deleted=20 poppler-qt. =2D-=20 Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 10:39:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5332F106566B for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:39:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 26D1A8FC14 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.61] by nm7.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2011 10:39:04 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.29] by tm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2011 10:39:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2011 10:39:04 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 625162.65977.bm@omp1029.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 56459 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Nov 2011 10:39:04 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1321267144; bh=/ukR82wtOExLPrgcdSZPwnxNiTrdARm/FQGb/OYXWIE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=juARaC00LQIY1DcVVLvxCO/SYfoQiQJlTCwggR7HgO9ayFofR5JIr3m5YMDE9vl33ESZix0PSvUjDEc++hGZroNpAwAKFl7sT5rIpp9ULHwT3fGYMEgSeIQTPEfQhXvm4blJbUP82msy4CzyrdM+o1U5eKfId0W02FiaQmVSgk4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=smzSjYq7h7UonLeHO9wjLKw5H9pxRERF0MGD7gZWmCSjeXjC9iyle58Pi2gDQHc6EltwJC1/zPMnaaz9+goABkn2P1G97z/8/z/sT+bp+2qVU4U4l/14sCtJgEqAtLQFNh0cl8YdersfzV8eqhUCbVR2KsUKXJQ1Iv/l1wBhrdk=; X-YMail-OSG: Zoolm2QVM1m.vDWgzKQVBYUqn9kyWdbruUhDaGIq_uuHkOl nq58In3bqURC3iCi07gzS77_UJEe3QMq5sYJCs53dsOAcYIlUAIlHkAPpsQm zCeBXbFx1msOukOIlgH1ZVCengl3WwAIypo9XUWgo8OllgfqS45uTzAbDUc_ T8OdYmVurARJ51AQws2A.Z4eJtNFscvk1bIL4gSdW5RViJcsjh47of.kKH3N yT4LnJVzGRZtdKK79WzzwK8v5nCA47L3xzUYAL3hkuerDbKcbCl4vG1TxANX umfBX8N9PAx2n6e0rH.JwzJ5u5okfto2.ypqc4rBAdFViKKMZxER4wx8j6jc xrrzPDfWc7Mmw5vwqIwkI2SBxExf2epNTz6ZgONrqZYSrn88uAKyzsDdu8pm 0.9BPKvVwUFNIaXuQgdmnWYyutmzW7SEvLIX2BNrd4I3VcVp9qE9PSxHmS27 YI.qkfpTm Received: from [98.203.44.66] by web36502.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:39:03 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.325013 References: <83F75606-8C2C-45E6-A408-FC11C7306A06@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <1321267143.51532.YahooMailNeo@web36502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:39:03 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Tillman To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Default Samba port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bill Tillman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:39:05 -0000 =0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom: Robert Simmons =0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Sunday, Novem= ber 13, 2011 10:36 AM=0ASubject: Re: Default Samba port?=0A=0A=0AOn Sun, No= v 13, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Peter Harrison=0A wro= te:=0A> Can anyone advise me the appropriate Samba port to install - the ha= ndbook refers to samba34, but I see samba35 and samba36 in in ports. This i= s for a home server, so I'm not necessarily looking for production standard= , but something that "just works" on RELEASE-8.2 amd64.=0A=0Asamba36 is the= current stable version.=A0 The other two are kept for=0Alegacy compatibili= ty.=A0 35 and 34 are the last version in those=0Abranches.=A0 Don't worry a= bout them.=A0 The handbook has not been updated=0Afor two major revisions o= f samba.=0A=0AThis is a comment for the others on the list, not directly at= you:=0Amaybe ports like this should have a directory samba that always poi= nts=0Ato the most recent stable version.=A0 Then the handbook would not nee= d=0Ato be updated to reflect version changes like this.=A0 It would only=0A= need to be updated if the actual instructions change or become=0Aoutdated?= =0A_______________________________________________=0Afreebsd-questions@free= bsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-qu= estions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@f= reebsd.org"=0A=0AI second the motion. Then when you do something like where= is samba, it=0Awon't come back empty and force you to search in /usr/ports = for the desired=0Aport directory.=0A=0AAs for the original question, I'd in= stall samba36, which is the latest port. The=0Aconfiguration is still the s= ame as previous releases so go for the latest one.=0A=0ASamba has some secu= rity issues but it rocks as a file server for *nix machines.=0AI've used it= with great success to allow M$ clients to share files. I do not use=0Ait f= or print services however, only file sharing.=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 10:43:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9D4106564A for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:43:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wafula@bitlink.co.ke) Received: from mail.bitlink.co.ke (mail.bitlink.co.ke [212.49.76.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9988FC08 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:43:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bitlink.co.ke (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC1068248 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:25:08 +0300 (EAT) Received: from mail.bitlink.co.ke ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.bitlink.co.ke [127.0.0.1]) (maiad, port 10024) with ESMTP id 51726-05 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:25:08 +0300 (EAT) Received: from bitpc01 (unknown [192.168.2.2]) (Authenticated sender: wafula@bitlink.co.ke) by mail.bitlink.co.ke (Postfix) with ESMTPA id ECA8C678DC for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:25:07 +0300 (EAT) From: "Evalyn" To: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:25:06 +0300 Message-ID: <005301cca2b7$add11f20$09735d60$@co.ke> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcygxmvV30wXCZgtTPmdpgs5/mmUdgBz40VwAAhna+A= Content-Language: en-gb Subject: RE: 8.2-RELEASE-p4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:43:11 -0000 It touches the kernel but you need to do make builkernel/make installkernel before uname -a shows "8.2-RELEASE-p4". Regards, Evalyn -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Seaman Sent: 12 November 2011 02:03 To: Robert Simmons Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.2-RELEASE-p4 On 11/11/2011 21:03, Robert Simmons wrote: >> Note that if a security update is just to some userland programs, >> > freebsd-update won't touch the OS kernel, so the reported version >> > number doesn't change even though the update has been applied. In >> > these sort of cases, it's not necessary to reboot, just to restart >> > any long running processes (if any) affected by the update. The >> > security advisory should have more detailed instructions about >> > exactly what to do. (The -p2 to >> > -p3 update was like this, but the -p3 to -p4 update definitely did >> > affect the kernel so a reboot was necessary.) > I'm not confident that you are correct here. See above. Either p3-p4 > did not touch the kernel, or the OP has a legitimate question. Interesting. I based what I said on the text of the security advisories: http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-11:04.compress.asc http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-11:05.unix.asc Specifically the 'Corrected:' section near the top. I think it's clear that FreeBSD-SA-11:04.compress (Corrected in 8.2-RELEASE-p3) doesn't involve anything in the kernel but FreeBSD-SA-11:05.unix (Corrected in 8.2-RELEASE-p4) is entirely within the kernel code. Except those advisories aren't telling the whole story. Lets look at r226023 in SVN. That's the revision quoted in the 11.05 advisory. The log for newvers.sh in http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/releng/8.2/sys/conf/newvers.sh?view=log&pathr ev=226023 says that the patches in RELEASE-p4 were not actually the security fix -- rather they fixed a problem revealed by the actual security fix, which was applied simultaneously with the patches in FreeBSD-SA-11:04.compress. 11.05 was committed in two blobs spanning -p3 and -p4. So, the good news is that if you have at least 8.2-RELEASE-p3 then you don't have any (known) security holes. However if you don't have the patches in 8.2-RELEASE-p4 then linux apps run under emulation will crash if they use unix domain sockets. The flash plugin for FireFox being the most prominent example as I recall. Now the updates for -p4 certainly should have touched the kernel, and certainly should have resulted in an updated uname string[*]. There should also be a note about -p4 in /usr/src/UPDATING. Starting to wonder if the -p4 patches are actually available via freebsd-update(8) -- could they have been omitted because it wasn't actually a security fix? Odd that no one would have commented in a whole month if so. Cheers, Matthew [*] strings /boot/kernel/kernel | grep '8\.2-' should give the same results as uname(1): if it's different then the running kernel is not the same as the one on disk... -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 11:14:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BC2106566B for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:14:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.harrisons@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19BF8FC19 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so4897650wyf.13 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:14:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:cc:subject:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=ccLcr+Btk7skAKeHGhmNV0o/hGRTA+lTnYx5en7O+jE=; b=VO9JeKSGnDa1gjorxbJoxtQ+MhLGznPGVNu+1Qn2ocEnupELz6at1c4Upm0aqeN5sg Ge5KfMyHk3ieHXSAxTxQkDlffnDLByl5LSiQvI1LEfh9QwiMrmUqc/ACVc8GwdwxjZHr 8ERluz+4+fnN0Lq8AQ5RyK4gwrNgcOBkrCAPk= Received: by 10.180.4.167 with SMTP id l7mr21156347wil.51.1321269258826; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:14:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.palm.com ([82.132.211.9]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id em4sm24462192wbb.20.2011.11.14.03.14.16 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:14:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ec0f80a.04c6e30a.29e4.515b@mx.google.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:14:17 +0000 From: "Peter Harrison" To: "pete wright" X-Mailer: Palm webOS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_=_Boundary_=_1321269256" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default Samba port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:14:20 -0000 --Multipart_=_Boundary_=_1321269256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sorry for top posting - my 'phone makes it awkward. Thanks for the s= uggestion. What default package would be delivered in this way on 8.2-R? -- Peter Harrison _________________________________________________________________ On 13 Nov 2011 14:39, pete wright wrote: On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 4:37 AM, Pe= ter Harrison=0D wrote:=0D > = Hello list,=0D >=0D > Can anyone advise me the appropriate Samb= a port to install - the handbook refers to samba34, but I see samba35 and s= amba36 in in ports. This is for a home server, so I'm not necessarily looki= ng for production standard, but something that "just works" on RELEASE-8.2 = amd64.=0D >=0D =0D your best bet may be to install a prebuilt p= ackage via:=0D pgk_add -r samba=0D =0D that is unless you need som= e non-standard knobs tuned.=0D =0D -pete=0D =0D =0D -- =0Dpete wright=0D www.nycbug.org=0D --Multipart_=_Boundary_=_1321269256-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 11:44:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5B91065677 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from four.harrisons@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9613B8FC08 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwg14 with SMTP id 14so6096632wwg.31 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:44:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type; bh=yLbad1rfAe1AHYcalXtkkHRVsT4EqK9AbnPJN4nnrGU=; b=YewbIZeOF+rmWt1T9yxQPnMVwrJaHrEJ8L0jCXNUwzki6PNvzLRHhVk9rgnRY7wFSQ 62vi49iI2RLK638H+kPYu35qPtNEXuBv0FPSyf7WpmWHH+wZVA3DCnQC9WVgu+mVxmqx dSnsUsvbX3ED2wd2hP/JFmKR1cz0MykUQ7MFY= Received: by 10.216.137.143 with SMTP id y15mr3939892wei.20.1321269383658; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:16:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.palm.com ([82.132.211.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c2sm2848525wbo.3.2011.11.14.03.16.21 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:16:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ec0f886.8265e30a.51ce.5c3c@mx.google.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:16:22 +0000 From: "Peter Harrison" To: "Robert Simmons" , X-Mailer: Palm webOS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_=_Boundary_=_1321269381" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Default Samba port? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:44:23 -0000 --Multipart_=_Boundary_=_1321269381 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sorry for top posting - curse you 'phone mail client! OK that's exac= tly what I needed to know. Thanks. -- Peter Harrison _________________________________________________________________ On 13 Nov= 2011 15:37, Robert Simmons wrote: On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Peter Harrison=0D wrote:=0D > Can anyone advise me the appropriate = Samba port to install - the handbook refers to samba34, but I see samba35 a= nd samba36 in in ports. This is for a home server, so I'm not necessarily l= ooking for production standard, but something that "just works" on RELEASE-= 8.2 amd64.=0D =0D samba36 is the current stable version. The other t= wo are kept for=0D legacy compatibility. 35 and 34 are the last version= in those=0D branches. Don't worry about them. The handbook has not be= en updated=0D for two major revisions of samba.=0D =0D This is a c= omment for the others on the list, not directly at you:=0D maybe ports l= ike this should have a directory samba that always points=0D to the most= recent stable version. Then the handbook would not need=0D to be updat= ed to reflect version changes like this. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 13:47:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267F71065672 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:47:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28768FC14 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:47:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyd5 with SMTP id 5so6859437gyd.13 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:47:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.189.231 with SMTP id gl7mr24118353igc.44.1321278469251; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:47:49 -0800 (PST) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.33.68 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:47:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1321152864.63708.YahooMailNeo@web122210.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1321152864.63708.YahooMailNeo@web122210.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:47:49 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5A936HMw1TC3gP2jsHZ6Tk51mHA Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: masayoshi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to login to my jail from host itself (normal user) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:47:51 -0000 On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:54 PM, masayoshi wrote: > Hi,I am masayoshi. > If you have enough time, please answer my question. > > I must adduser Ayumi as normal user. > After adding her in jail, I add her in host. > Then I type the following command: Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you are confusing FreeBSD Jails with a Jail Shell. The name FreeBSD Jail is confusing because it's based on advanced chrooting but it's really not intended for jailshailing but rather pseudo-virtualization. Maybe you should look at jailkit or something like that. The other option is to create a FBSD Jail only for her, but again I think this is not the right tool for the job. Jail Shell is what you're looking for. -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 16:11:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A9AD106564A for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomc@bio.umass.edu) Received: from marlin.bio.umass.edu (marlin.bio.umass.edu [128.119.55.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C188FC14 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.30.55.86] (neutopia.bio.umass.edu [128.119.55.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by marlin.bio.umass.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pAEFnB4l005969 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:49:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4EC13877.3070704@bio.umass.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:49:11 -0500 From: Tom Carpenter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110922 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <005301cca2b7$add11f20$09735d60$@co.ke> In-Reply-To: <005301cca2b7$add11f20$09735d60$@co.ke> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (marlin.bio.umass.edu [128.119.55.19]); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:49:15 -0500 (EST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 128.119.55.19 Subject: Re: 8.2-RELEASE-p4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:11:35 -0000 Do you anticipate the release of an fix/update that will allow systems to be patched to -p4 or later via freebsd-update? -Tom Carpenter On 11/14/2011 05:25 AM, Evalyn wrote: > It touches the kernel but you need to do make builkernel/make installkernel > before uname -a shows "8.2-RELEASE-p4". > > Regards, > Evalyn > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Seaman > Sent: 12 November 2011 02:03 > To: Robert Simmons > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: 8.2-RELEASE-p4 > > On 11/11/2011 21:03, Robert Simmons wrote: >>> Note that if a security update is just to some userland programs, >>>> freebsd-update won't touch the OS kernel, so the reported version >>>> number doesn't change even though the update has been applied. In >>>> these sort of cases, it's not necessary to reboot, just to restart >>>> any long running processes (if any) affected by the update. The >>>> security advisory should have more detailed instructions about >>>> exactly what to do. (The -p2 to >>>> -p3 update was like this, but the -p3 to -p4 update definitely did >>>> affect the kernel so a reboot was necessary.) >> I'm not confident that you are correct here. See above. Either p3-p4 >> did not touch the kernel, or the OP has a legitimate question. > Interesting. I based what I said on the text of the security advisories: > > http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-11:04.compress.asc > http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-11:05.unix.asc > > Specifically the 'Corrected:' section near the top. I think it's clear that > FreeBSD-SA-11:04.compress (Corrected in 8.2-RELEASE-p3) doesn't involve > anything in the kernel but FreeBSD-SA-11:05.unix (Corrected in > 8.2-RELEASE-p4) is entirely within the kernel code. Except those advisories > aren't telling the whole story. > > Lets look at r226023 in SVN. That's the revision quoted in the 11.05 > advisory. The log for newvers.sh in > > http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/releng/8.2/sys/conf/newvers.sh?view=log&pathr > ev=226023 > > says that the patches in RELEASE-p4 were not actually the security fix > -- rather they fixed a problem revealed by the actual security fix, which > was applied simultaneously with the patches in FreeBSD-SA-11:04.compress. > 11.05 was committed in two blobs spanning > -p3 and -p4. > > So, the good news is that if you have at least 8.2-RELEASE-p3 then you don't > have any (known) security holes. However if you don't have the patches in > 8.2-RELEASE-p4 then linux apps run under emulation will crash if they use > unix domain sockets. The flash plugin for FireFox being the most prominent > example as I recall. > > Now the updates for -p4 certainly should have touched the kernel, and > certainly should have resulted in an updated uname string[*]. There should > also be a note about -p4 in /usr/src/UPDATING. Starting to wonder if the > -p4 patches are actually available via freebsd-update(8) > -- could they have been omitted because it wasn't actually a security fix? > Odd that no one would have commented in a whole month if so. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > > > [*] strings /boot/kernel/kernel | grep '8\.2-' should give the same > results as uname(1): if it's different then the running kernel is not the > same as the one on disk... > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 19:57:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14DD106564A for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:57:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward4.mail.yandex.net (forward4.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:602::4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFCE8FC0A for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:57:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp3.mail.yandex.net (smtp3.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.103]) by forward4.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 04A3E50302D for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:57:28 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1321300649; bh=tU7rH6mY04I8YOAKfEvzcNXTp8yGkBaaIzz56tCaqNU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UFW4qpzRgRmHSL0WzEJW2WzbshMoHNDtER0cpQeKaIhAqy0RU9+Fw15/ZmcEcoF7+ 7O5i5voSUUTHnYilbcaweVWipDhLJxgK4kTrT7mL/F3XXtviqYZ1m+8VvCkio/uL0E 1AeDT4CrMEbSyN0zhf+C53jNVS+dTr9mWs2jM3jA= Received: from smtp3.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id D5D411BA0212 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:57:28 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1321300648; bh=tU7rH6mY04I8YOAKfEvzcNXTp8yGkBaaIzz56tCaqNU=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ruVLpyi0xhqa5rekSE9CH2tVSTEsVHzftYDicHR+xkqOvdb0CkTw8H1gA7LKWJZLL /hPmCgh8qeAd/ISfsAl5O2JJS+GetzW30WQ7g1l3J4781kHDezQH5TBH8XUJVB24UG 0PMB/CnjWSDDE/WJd51dz9D96xDh351t3lff2kbA= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp3.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id vSFWsAUx-vSF8iHYb; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:57:28 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:57:28 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1274456846.20111114215728@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: geli + journal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:57:31 -0000 hi Is it possible to create journaled FS which is crypted with geli? I can create crypted or journaled FS, but it is complicated to me to create both in time, can you help me clue? -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 20:00:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB92106572F for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:00:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from ns2.bafirst.com (ns2.bafirst.com [97.67.198.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19BF8FC22 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ns1.encontacto.net ([189.251.170.241]) by ns2.bafirst.com with esmtp; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:50:10 -0600 id 000DA80E.4EC170F2.0000CFAE Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by ns1.encontacto.net with local; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:50:54 -0600 id 000CF01E.4EC1711E.00017525 Received: from dsl-189-251-170-241-dyn.prod-infinitum.com.mx (dsl-189-251-170-241-dyn.prod-infinitum.com.mx [189.251.170.241]) by econet.encontacto.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:50:54 -0600 Message-ID: <20111114135054.1555270hw8a9d2xw@econet.encontacto.net> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:50:54 -0600 From: eculp To: freebsd-questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (5.0-cvs) X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/6.0.2 X-IMP-Server: 189.251.170.241 X-Originating-IP: 189.251.170.241 X-Originating-User: eculp@encontacto.net Subject: Stuck between current and 9 release. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:00:23 -0000 I was running current (before 10) last month, had a health emergency =20 and when I could check the server current was 10. I ereased all =20 sources and switched all my csup files to release and begin building a =20 new world daily with no problems to be sure all was well. ( probably a =20 mistake ). Port upgrades were building fine with portmaster so I just =20 decided to reboot to see if all was well.( Dumb ) it wasn't, =20 (Murphy's Law), the machine won't boot. Rather than a spinning slash =20 (/) a single one and it hangs. I have been looking for an amd 64 version of a release snapshot and =20 haven't found anything close. I have no idea why it doesn't even try =20 to boot. I have tried all the loader options and get nowhere. I =20 could use any suggestions especially since I don't even have a amd64 =20 snapshot other than old ones to do a reinstall especially if there is =20 a problem with the release. Thanks, ed P.S. If this should be on another list please let me know. If there =20 is an AMD RELEASE 9 snap somewhere other than what is in the handbook. =20 Anything would be great. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 20:39:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335E4106564A for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crtb@cape.com) Received: from mrelay1.cape.com (mrelay3.cape.com [216.237.97.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD318FC0A for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:39:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tomato (209-213-65-25.meganet.net [209.213.65.25]) by mrelay1.cape.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8588B2800B; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:39:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:39:10 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Bacon X-X-Sender: crtb@tomato.local To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Chuck Bacon Subject: 9.0-RC1 Perl tests fail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:39:12 -0000 Thanks again for info about disabling 1394 :-) Easy. Now here's a harder one: Installing any version of Perl; I found I can install perl5.8, but my 8.2-RELEASE has a perfectly good Perl5.10. Each of my 9.0 Perl attempts perl5.10, 13 and 14 has Failed tests. Such a vast number of tests with so little info as to which feature my 98 or so failed tests comes from! CPAN shows its latest release as perl5-0.08 ! I suspect the Perl versions I've tried may be uniquely numbered for FreeBSD. Any help? Thanks for any help! Chuck Bacon -- crtb@cape.com ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 20:51:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802BF106566B for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0B68FC16 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:51:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so5700832wyf.13 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:51:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PRFd56yRgJGNPXmsVCozTBQs9pFJf7sQoYdlvLbQLJs=; b=a4Z9wIjqAJ9/vI0v//6bG7zN63nFjGcdSJ37UWwFtiP+rQRWSInuh4v4FszSCzNkFG FBh2/5edEDm6EMqfsQ8JDp2yi3U75D5beCnHwiusr9/Cqggx7MUwHcS1SvquUWv0yIwG xUEF8QcnYkwVgIawpkwOoPMTEt5L2e7qv5CnM= Received: by 10.227.207.205 with SMTP id fz13mr16262703wbb.0.1321303906929; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:51:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ep13sm20697761wbb.8.2011.11.14.12.51.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:51:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:51:41 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111114205141.2bf80ae1@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <1274456846.20111114215728@yandex.ru> References: <1274456846.20111114215728@yandex.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: geli + journal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:51:48 -0000 On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:57:28 +0200 Коньков Евгений wrote: > hi > > Is it possible to create journaled FS which is crypted with geli? > > I can create crypted or journaled FS, but it is complicated to me to > create both in time, can you help me clue? You have to encrypt first and then create the gjournal device on the .eli device so you end-up with device that ends in .eli.journal. However, FreeBSD 9 supports journaled soft-updates which is much faster than full data journalling, and it can be enabled on existing filesystems. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 22:06:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DFD106564A for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:06:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward18.mail.yandex.net (forward18.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1402::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3396E8FC08 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp19.mail.yandex.net (smtp19.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.19]) by forward18.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id A25EB1782D4E; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:06:00 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1321308360; bh=R2OeasZ1kL1gN64nY/+L7YJ4pGhA+Nvy7Rx5jNi92Xw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZmB/tp22y05jes7GXoRd31Hrq1yLZ2oJrJzq+NTVDS8e16GJbJuY3ktJc1hu2VDJm 8/ollMHLPNqNlaV1m1DeNw7SIhf7uZy0V9pi32eTYJckFf2VrIuKU3vYeBDvkDYeAz HA/qFG8t92z+oPMwP9bRcYGQkJhdJF5g9qqzhe4E= Received: from smtp19.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp19.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 7F863BE031D; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:06:00 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1321308360; bh=R2OeasZ1kL1gN64nY/+L7YJ4pGhA+Nvy7Rx5jNi92Xw=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZmB/tp22y05jes7GXoRd31Hrq1yLZ2oJrJzq+NTVDS8e16GJbJuY3ktJc1hu2VDJm 8/ollMHLPNqNlaV1m1DeNw7SIhf7uZy0V9pi32eTYJckFf2VrIuKU3vYeBDvkDYeAz HA/qFG8t92z+oPMwP9bRcYGQkJhdJF5g9qqzhe4E= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp19.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id 601K7VxS-601i4WnT; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:06:00 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:06:00 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <908814265.20111115000600@yandex.ru> To: RW In-Reply-To: <20111114205141.2bf80ae1@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <1274456846.20111114215728@yandex.ru> <20111114205141.2bf80ae1@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: geli + journal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:06:02 -0000 R> On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:57:28 +0200 R> Коньков Евгений wrote: >> hi >> >> Is it possible to create journaled FS which is crypted with geli? >> >> I can create crypted or journaled FS, but it is complicated to me to >> create both in time, can you help me clue? R> You have to encrypt first and then create the gjournal device on R> the .eli device so you end-up with device that ends in .eli.journal. R> However, FreeBSD 9 supports journaled soft-updates which is much faster R> than full data journalling, and it can be enabled on existing R> filesystems. I catch idea, but some question: in this situation .eli.journal journal device will not be encrypted? can you describe how data flow will be? -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 14 22:14:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B44106564A for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:14:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423778FC0A for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:14:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl11 with SMTP id l11so2143257yen.13 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:14:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Vzyz6UX4wOk+lMyITcQCWmfKIWRwz/JksxpsHeCZOts=; b=dthjkoCChFfMgtJsLiDmoblA4xROoRG/C9lJvQiSwncj93Y8JBh5ThbAO+tCeA+UDM 77fxtcaT7fMCh1B1psQ3hzfmsJCbXsCeA4eXiko+K4iBlzCagOKIq30y+IBmD6yuqwFD IAvUHRl1nVsGnBtgNeUnfEVkY+jYo8delHTMU= Received: by 10.68.16.135 with SMTP id g7mr52682992pbd.65.1321308840850; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:14:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f2sm31267722pbg.14.2011.11.14.14.13.59 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:13:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC1A161.1080109@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:16:49 -0800 From: Edward Martinez User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.2.20) Gecko/20110804 Thunderbird/3.1.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4EBF294D.6060306@gmail.com> <20111113030251.ed94d59f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20111113030251.ed94d59f.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: apps to display cpu temp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:14:04 -0000 On 11/12/11 18:02, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:19:57 -0800, Edward Martinez wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> I have a Pentium 4 and i have been trying to get "coretemp" and >> "sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature" to display my Cpu temperture , >> however i have not had any luck using them >> Are there any other apps perhaps from ports that reports CPU temp? > I've been using the port "xmbmon" for that, in > combination with > > device smbus > device iicbus > device iicsmb > device iicbb > device iic > > in the kernel configuration file - on a Pentium 4 > system. I haven't tried the sysctl method, because > xmbmon did work out of the box. :-) You can also > use mbmon for text output. > > Here's an example from ~/.xinitrc calling xmbmon: > > xmbmon -g 150x100+0+897 \ > -tmin 20.0 -tmax 70.0 \ > -cmtmb CPU -cltmb blue \ > -cmtcpu CS -cltcpu cyan \ > -cmtcs SYS -cltcs green \ > -vmin 2.0 -vmax 3.0 -cmvc V -clvc red& > > Depending on the sensor installation of your > particular system, check if the different values > do match the hardware. Maybe check from within > your CMOS setup for reference values. > > > > Thanks!, Even though mbmon is about 10 degrees off from what the BIOS is reporting. I'm still a happycamper. I have a question, is it supposed to be "device iichsmb" or "device iicsmb" like you have listed? 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[87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ep16sm22091291wbb.21.2011.11.14.15.50.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:50:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:50:54 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111114235054.7c1e96c3@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <908814265.20111115000600@yandex.ru> References: <1274456846.20111114215728@yandex.ru> <20111114205141.2bf80ae1@gumby.homeunix.com> <908814265.20111115000600@yandex.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: geli + journal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:51:02 -0000 On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:06:00 +0200 Коньков Евгений wrote: >catch idea, but some question: > in this situation .eli.journal journal device will not be encrypted? > can you describe how data flow will be? The journal is encrypted unless you choose to put it on a separate non-encrypted device. In principle the data is encrypted into the journal, decrypted from the journal and then re-encrypted into its final location. In practice I've found that in file copying between disks, writing uses about twice as much cpu time as reading, so maybe the decryption from the journal can be avoided by caching. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 15 01:23:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581AE1065783 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:23:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9578FC0C for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:23:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.16]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B00B24AF3; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:23:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id pAF1NFoj001912; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:23:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:23:15 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Edward Martinez Message-Id: <20111115022315.eee098f3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4EC1A161.1080109@gmail.com> References: <4EBF294D.6060306@gmail.com> <20111113030251.ed94d59f.freebsd@edvax.de> <4EC1A161.1080109@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: apps to display cpu temp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:23:17 -0000 On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:16:49 -0800, Edward Martinez wrote: > Thanks!, Even though mbmon is about 10 degrees off from what the > BIOS is reporting. I'm still a happycamper. I had a similar observation with my P4 system: CPU temp would always "flatline" at 60 deg. C. > I have a question, is it supposed to be "device iichsmb" or "device > iicsmb" like you have listed? The example listed is from my kernel configuration of that particular P4 system, where it _worked_ properly. I had inserted "device iicsmb" as per kernel configuration notes. The OS in question was 7-STABLE. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 15 08:56:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094CB106564A for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from goshik@binep.ac.ru) Received: from mx0.binep.ac.ru (mx0.binep.ac.ru [77.236.36.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B283B8FC19 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:56:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx0.binep.ac.ru (localhost.binep.ac.ru [127.0.0.1]) by mx0.binep.ac.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE3E114A4 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:39:17 +0300 (MSK) Received: from tech05.binep.ac.ru (tech05.binep.ac.ru [77.236.36.11]) by mx0.binep.ac.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5286B1143F for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:39:17 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:36:35 +0400 From: "Igor B. Bykhalo" Organization: BINEPCP RAS X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1091139602.20111115123635@binep.ac.ru> To: FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: Subject: RELENG_7 build fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Igor B. Bykhalo" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:56:46 -0000 Good day. I have a couple of rather old amd64 boxes planned to upgrade from RELENG_7, but for now we needed just to quickly rebuild them (because of new tzdata). gate# uname -a FreeBSD gate.binep.ac.ru 7.3-STABLE FreeBSD 7.3-STABLE #50: Mon Jun 7 12:10:28 MSD 2010 goshik@gate.binep.ac.ru:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GATE amd64 But after csupping with RELENG_7 tag we got buildworld failure: [...] cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I. -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcclibs/include -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcclibs/libcpp/include -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcclibs/libdecnumber -g -DGENERATOR_FILE -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/genconditions.c cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I. -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcclibs/include -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcclibs/libcpp/include -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcclibs/libdecnumber -g -DGENERATOR_FILE -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include -L/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/lib -o genconditions genconditions.o rtl.o read-rtl.o ggc-none.o vec.o min-insn-modes.o gensupport.o print-rtl.o errors.o libiberty.a -lm ./genconditions /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/config/i386/i386.md > gencondmd.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/config/i386/sse.md:4448: invalid decimal constant "UNSPEC_PSHUFB" /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/config/i386/sse.md:4448: following context is `))]' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Deleting /usr/obj before build doesn't help. Any thoughts? I have a feeling I'm missing something almost obvious... 8-) Igor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 15 11:34:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B56106566C for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:34:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Traiano.Welcome@mtnbusiness.co.za) Received: from smtprelay01.ops.mtnbusiness.co.za (smtprelay01.ops.mtnbusiness.co.za [41.181.93.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827908FC14 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [196.30.97.135] (helo=CPT-EXCH01.int.mtnbusiness.net) by smtprelay01.ops.mtnbusiness.co.za with esmtp (ULTRA Special SMTP Internal Alpha) (envelope-from ) id 1RQHHM-00017Y-E2; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 13:34:16 +0200 Received: from CPT-EXCH01.int.mtnbusiness.net ([196.30.97.135]) by cpt-exch01 ([196.7.22.110]) with mapi id 14.01.0218.012; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 13:33:33 +0200 From: Traiano Welcome To: Damien Fleuriot , freebsd questions Thread-Topic: FreeBSD make buildworld fail: cc: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1) Thread-Index: AQHMo4pn4BDsV3KdiUCjgCcHVVikpw== Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:33:32 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, en-ZA Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.0.0.100825 x-originating-ip: [196.30.72.139] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <0F7BC2BBB814BB4397361E887D122D6D@int.mtnbusiness.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD make buildworld fail: cc: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:34:22 -0000 Ok, I've taken the coward's way out and installed a fresh system from CD, upgrading according to the manual's best practice recommended method :-) I've kept the VM images of the failed upgrade system, when I have some time I'll dig a bit further for the actual reason make buildworld failed. Thanks for all the suggestions! Traiano On 2011/11/14 11:59 AM, "Traiano Welcome" wrote: > > >On 2011/11/14 11:25 AM, "Damien Fleuriot" wrote: > >> >>On 11/11/11 11:53 AM, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:45:15 +0000, Traiano Welcome wrote: >>>> And I don't seem to have a src.conf anywhere on my filesystem ... >>>>Hmmm. >>>=20 >>> You'll have to create it yourself (just like /etc/make.conf). >>> See "man src.conf" for details. >>>=20 >> >> >> >>I can't see any odd variables in your /etc/make.conf > > >Me neither. This is a standard config I've used for hundreds of bsd >machines (vms and real tin) so I doubt this has anything to do with ... Of >course, source may change, requiring make.conf to change, but I'm >spculating here :P > > > >> >> >>I would suggest trying to update from 8.0 to 8.1 first, instead of 8.0 >>-> 8.2 > > >Currently testing this ... > > > >> >> >>Please try this and see if you can successfully build the world. >> >> >>If you still can't, try "updating" from 8.0 to 8.0 (yes, I'm serious). >>See if you can build the world. >> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 15 10:33:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E292106564A for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:33:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@passap.ru) Received: from forward11.mail.yandex.net (forward11.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3CE8FC0A for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:33:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp13.mail.yandex.net (smtp13.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.68]) by forward11.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id D7B2BE82861; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:33:10 +0400 (MSK) Received: from smtp13.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp13.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id BBAC1E40405; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:33:10 +0400 (MSK) Received: from 87.249.28.58.tel.ru (87.249.28.58.tel.ru [87.249.28.58]) by smtp13.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id XAqmRdLg-XAq0BMPj; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:33:10 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Message-ID: <4EC23FE6.5060809@passap.ru> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:33:10 +0400 From: Boris Samorodov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111003 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eculp References: <20111114135054.1555270hw8a9d2xw@econet.encontacto.net> In-Reply-To: <20111114135054.1555270hw8a9d2xw@econet.encontacto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:08:20 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Stuck between current and 9 release. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:33:15 -0000 14.11.2011 23:50, eculp пишет: > I have been looking for an amd 64 version of a release snapshot and > haven't found anything close. Seems that you need this: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/ -- WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 15 12:46:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8C5106566B for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983B58FC0A for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.113.121.8] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de.) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQIOo-0003Sz-W3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 13:46:05 +0100 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de. (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de. 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(8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id pAFCfGth001502 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 13:41:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de.: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 13:41:15 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111115124114.GA1482@tiny> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o" Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 82.113.121.8 Subject: problems in ppp negotiating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:46:08 -0000 --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello, I'm using ppp(8) to connect my netbook to my UMTS ISP, which works reasonable well; from time to time I encounter the situation that it is unwilling to negotiate with the peer, it stops with: Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: Too many IPCP REQs sent - abandoning negotiation this is for any attempt during some minutes (or even hours) and then it connects without any change on my ppp.conf; I'm attaching a log of ppp.bad and one of ppp.good; any ideas what I could do in my config? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ppp.good" Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: bundle: Establish Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: Connected! Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Phone: *99*1# Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: deflink: Dial attempt 1 of 1 Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Send: AT^M Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Expect(5): OK Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: AT^M^M Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: OK^M Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Send: ATZ^M Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Expect(5): OK Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: ATZ^M^M Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: OK^M Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Send: AT+CFUN=1^M Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Expect(5): OK Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: AT+CFUN=1^M^M Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: OK^M Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Send: at+cpin=4708^M Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Expect(5): O Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: at+cpin=4708^M^M Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: +CME ERROR: operation not allowed^M Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Send: AT+COPS=0^M Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Expect(5): OK Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: AT+COPS=0^M^M Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: OK^M Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Send: AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","pinternet.interkom.de"^M Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Expect(5): OK Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","pinternet.interkom.de"^M^M Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: OK^M Nov 15 12:28:52 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Send: ATDT*99*1#^M Nov 15 12:28:54 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Expect(40): CONNECT Nov 15 12:28:54 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: ATDT*99*1#^M^M Nov 15 12:28:54 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: CONNECT^M Nov 15 12:28:54 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: dial -> carrier Nov 15 12:28:55 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: /dev/cuaU0.0 doesn't support CD Nov 15 12:28:55 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: carrier -> login Nov 15 12:28:55 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: login -> lcp Nov 15 12:28:55 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport Nov 15 12:28:55 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed Nov 15 12:28:55 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Stopped Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: LayerStart Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(3) state = Stopped Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0xed29985d Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(3) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP 0x05) Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x0a97f2dc Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(3) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP 0x05) Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x0a97f2dc Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(3) state = Ack-Sent Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0xed29985d Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: State change Ack-Sent --> Opened Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: LayerUp Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: bundle: Authenticate Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: his = CHAP 0x05, mine = none Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: RecvDiscardReq(4) state = Opened Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: Chap Input: CHALLENGE (16 bytes from UMTS_CHAP_SRVR) Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: Chap Output: RESPONSE (fonic) Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: Chap Input: SUCCESS Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Using trigger address 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: deflink: LayerStart. Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: MPPE: Not usable without CHAP81 Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Closed Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: DEFLATE[4] win 15 Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: PRED1[2] Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: lcp -> open Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: bundle: Network Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: LayerStart. Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(17) state = Closed Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: RecvProtocolRej(5) state = Opened Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: -- Protocol 0x80fd (Compression Control Protocol) was rejected! Nov 15 12:28:56 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Stopped Nov 15 12:28:57 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(17) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:57 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:57 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:57 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:57 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:57 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:57 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:57 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:57 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:57 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(18) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:57 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:57 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:28:57 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:57 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:58 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(18) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:58 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:58 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:58 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:58 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:58 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:58 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:58 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:58 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:58 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(19) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:58 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:58 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:28:58 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:58 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:59 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(19) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:59 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:59 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:59 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:59 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:59 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:59 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:59 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:59 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:59 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(20) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:59 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:59 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:28:59 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:59 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:00 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(20) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:00 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:00 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:00 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:00 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:29:00 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:00 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:29:00 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:00 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:00 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(21) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:00 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:29:00 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:29:00 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:00 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:01 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(21) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:01 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:01 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:01 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:01 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:29:01 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:01 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:29:01 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:01 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:01 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(22) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:01 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:29:01 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:29:01 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:01 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:02 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(22) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:02 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:02 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:02 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:02 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:29:02 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:02 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:29:02 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:02 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:02 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(23) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:02 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:29:02 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:29:02 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:02 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:03 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(23) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:03 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:03 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:03 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:03 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:29:03 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:03 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:29:03 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:03 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:03 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(24) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:03 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:29:03 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:29:03 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:03 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:04 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(24) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:04 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:04 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:04 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:04 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:29:04 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:04 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:29:04 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:04 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:04 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(25) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:04 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:29:04 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:29:04 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:04 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:05 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(25) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:05 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:05 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:05 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:05 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:29:05 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:05 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:29:05 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:05 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:05 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(26) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:05 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:29:05 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:29:05 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:05 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:06 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(26) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:06 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:06 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:06 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:06 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:29:06 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:06 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:29:06 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:06 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:06 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(27) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:06 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:29:06 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:29:06 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:06 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:07 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(27) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:07 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:07 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:07 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:07 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:29:07 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:07 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:29:07 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:07 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:07 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(28) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:07 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:29:07 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:29:07 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:07 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:08 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(28) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:08 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:08 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:08 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:08 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:29:08 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:08 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:29:08 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:08 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:08 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(29) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:08 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:29:08 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:29:08 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:08 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(0) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: [EMPTY] Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigNak(0) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 10.64.64.64 Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigRej(29) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(30) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: [EMPTY] Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(1) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: [EMPTY] Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(30) state = Ack-Sent Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 10.36.89.8 Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] changing address: 0.0.0.0 --> 10.36.89.8 Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 193.189.244.225 Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 193.189.244.206 Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 193.189.244.225 Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 193.189.244.206 Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(31) state = Ack-Sent Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 10.36.89.8 Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 193.189.244.225 Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 193.189.244.206 Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(31) state = Ack-Sent Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 10.36.89.8 Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 193.189.244.225 Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 193.189.244.206 Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: State change Ack-Sent --> Opened Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: LayerUp. Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: myaddr 10.36.89.8 hisaddr = 10.64.64.64 Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Warning: 0.0.0.0/0: Change route failed: errno: No such process Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Warning: ff01:2::/32: Change route failed: errno: Network is unreachable Nov 15 12:29:09 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Warning: ff02:2::/32: Change route failed: errno: Network is unreachable --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ppp.bad" Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1365]: Phase: Using interface: tun6 Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1365]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1365]: tun6: Command: umts: set device /dev/cuaU0.0 Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1365]: tun6: Command: umts: set speed 230400 Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1365]: tun6: Command: umts: set dial ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 "" AT OK-AT-OK ATZ OK AT+CFUN=1 OK at+cpin=4708 O AT+COPS=0 OK AT+CGDCONT=1,\"IP\",\"pinternet.interkom.de\" OK \dATDT\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1365]: tun6: Command: umts: set logout ABORT BUSY ABORT ERROR TIMEOUT 30 "" +++ATH O ATH OK Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1365]: tun6: Command: umts: set phone *99*1# Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1365]: tun6: Command: umts: set authname fonic Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1365]: tun6: Command: umts: set authkey ******** Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1365]: tun6: Command: umts: set timeout 300 Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1365]: tun6: Command: umts: set ifaddr 0.0.0.0/0 10.64.64.64/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1365]: tun6: Command: umts: add default HISADDR Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1365]: tun6: Command: umts: enable dns Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1365]: tun6: Command: umts: disable ipv6cp Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: PPP Started (auto mode). Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: bundle: Establish Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: Connected! Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Phone: *99*1# Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: deflink: Dial attempt 1 of 1 Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Send: AT^M Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Expect(5): OK Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: AT^M^M Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: OK^M Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Send: ATZ^M Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Expect(5): OK Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: ATZ^M^M Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: OK^M Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Send: AT+CFUN=1^M Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Expect(5): OK Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: AT+CFUN=1^M^M Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: OK^M Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Send: at+cpin=4708^M Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Expect(5): O Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: at+cpin=4708^M^M Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: +CME ERROR: operation not allowed^M Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Send: AT+COPS=0^M Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Expect(5): OK Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: AT+COPS=0^M^M Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: OK^M Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Send: AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","pinternet.interkom.de"^M Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Expect(5): OK Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","pinternet.interkom.de"^M^M Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: OK^M Nov 15 12:28:22 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Send: ATDT*99*1#^M Nov 15 12:28:24 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Expect(40): CONNECT Nov 15 12:28:24 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: ATDT*99*1#^M^M Nov 15 12:28:24 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: CONNECT^M Nov 15 12:28:24 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: dial -> carrier Nov 15 12:28:25 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: /dev/cuaU0.0 doesn't support CD Nov 15 12:28:25 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: carrier -> login Nov 15 12:28:25 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: login -> lcp Nov 15 12:28:25 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport Nov 15 12:28:25 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed Nov 15 12:28:25 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Stopped Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: LayerStart Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Stopped Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0xf5aafe38 Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(0) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP 0x05) Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x0a977cff Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(0) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: AUTHPROTO[5] 0xc223 (CHAP 0x05) Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x0a977cff Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigAck(1) state = Ack-Sent Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0xf5aafe38 Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: State change Ack-Sent --> Opened Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: LayerUp Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: bundle: Authenticate Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: his = CHAP 0x05, mine = none Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: RecvDiscardReq(1) state = Opened Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: Chap Input: CHALLENGE (16 bytes from UMTS_CHAP_SRVR) Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: Chap Output: RESPONSE (fonic) Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: Chap Input: SUCCESS Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Using trigger address 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: deflink: LayerStart. Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: MPPE: Not usable without CHAP81 Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Closed Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: DEFLATE[4] win 15 Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: PRED1[2] Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: lcp -> open Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: bundle: Network Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: LayerStart. Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Closed Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 255.255.255.255 Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: RecvProtocolRej(2) state = Opened Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: -- Protocol 0x80fd (Compression Control Protocol) was rejected! Nov 15 12:28:26 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Stopped Nov 15 12:28:27 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(1) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:27 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:27 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:27 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:27 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:27 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:27 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:27 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:27 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:27 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(2) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:27 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:27 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:28:27 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:27 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:28 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(2) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:28 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:28 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:28 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:28 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:28 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:28 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:28 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:28 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:28 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(3) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:28 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:28 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:28:28 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:28 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:29 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(3) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:29 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:29 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:29 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:29 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:29 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:29 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:29 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:29 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:29 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(4) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:29 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:29 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:28:29 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:29 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:30 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(4) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:30 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:30 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:30 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:30 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:30 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:30 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:30 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:30 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:30 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(5) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:30 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:30 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:28:30 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:30 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:31 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(5) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:31 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:31 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:31 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:31 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:31 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:31 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:31 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:31 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:31 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(6) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:31 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:31 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:28:31 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:31 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:32 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(6) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:32 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:32 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:32 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:32 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:32 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:32 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:32 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:32 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:32 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(7) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:32 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:32 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:28:32 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:32 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:33 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(7) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:33 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:33 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:33 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:33 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:33 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:33 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:33 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:33 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:33 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(8) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:33 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:33 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:28:33 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:33 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:34 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(8) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:34 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:34 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:34 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:34 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:34 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:34 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:34 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:34 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:34 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(9) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:34 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:34 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:28:34 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:34 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:35 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(9) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:35 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:35 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:35 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:35 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:35 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:35 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:35 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:35 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:35 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(10) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:35 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:35 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:28:35 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:35 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:36 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(10) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:36 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:36 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:36 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:36 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:36 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:36 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:36 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:36 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:36 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(11) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:36 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:36 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:28:36 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:36 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:37 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(11) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:37 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:37 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:37 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:37 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:37 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:37 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:37 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:37 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:37 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(12) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:37 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:37 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:28:37 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:37 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:38 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(12) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:38 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:38 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:38 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:38 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:38 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:38 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:38 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:38 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:38 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(13) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:38 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:38 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:28:38 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:38 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:39 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(13) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:39 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:39 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:39 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:39 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:39 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:39 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:39 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:39 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:39 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(14) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:39 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:39 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:28:39 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:39 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:40 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(14) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:40 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:40 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:40 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:40 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:40 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:40 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:40 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:40 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:40 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(15) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:40 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 Nov 15 12:28:40 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression Nov 15 12:28:40 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:40 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvConfigNak(15) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRIDNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECDNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: PRINBNS[6] 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 130 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: SECNBNS[6] 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: MS NBNS req 132 - NAK?? Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Primary nameserver set to 10.11.12.13 Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Secondary nameserver set to 10.11.12.14 Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: Too many IPCP REQs sent - abandoning negotiation Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: SendTerminateReq(16) state = Req-Sent Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Closing Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: RecvTerminateAck(16) state = Closing Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: LayerFinish. Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: Connect time: 15 secs: 0 octets in, 0 octets out Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: 0 packets in, 0 packets out Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: total 0 bytes/sec, peak 0 bytes/sec on Tue Nov 15 12:28:26 2011 Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: State change Closing --> Closed Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: bundle: Terminate Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Closed Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: CCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Initial Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: LayerDown Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: SendTerminateReq(2) state = Opened Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: State change Opened --> Closing Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: open -> lcp Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Warning: 0.0.0.0/0: Change route failed: errno: No such process Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Warning: ff02:2::/32: Change route failed: errno: Network is unreachable Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: IPCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Initial Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: RecvTerminateAck(2) state = Closing Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: LayerFinish Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: State change Closing --> Closed Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Initial Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: lcp -> logout Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Send: +++ATH^M Nov 15 12:28:41 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Expect(30): O Nov 15 12:28:42 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: ^M Nov 15 12:28:42 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: NO CARRIER^M Nov 15 12:28:42 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Send: ATH^M Nov 15 12:28:42 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Expect(30): OK Nov 15 12:28:42 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: ATH^M^M Nov 15 12:28:42 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Chat: Received: OK^M Nov 15 12:28:42 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: logout -> hangup Nov 15 12:28:42 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Nov 15 12:28:42 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 20 secs: 759 octets in, 691 octets out Nov 15 12:28:42 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: 23 packets in, 21 packets out Nov 15 12:28:42 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: total 72 bytes/sec, peak 135 bytes/sec on Tue Nov 15 12:28:31 2011 Nov 15 12:28:42 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: deflink: hangup -> closed Nov 15 12:28:42 tiny ppp[1370]: tun6: Phase: bundle: Dead --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 15 17:14:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D3E106566C for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:14:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darcsis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f44.google.com (mail-pz0-f44.google.com [209.85.210.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C1E8FC08 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33so32051470pzk.3 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:14:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:organization:references:user-agent :x-envelope-to:mail-followup-to:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; bh=KiB6lRYKR0GF2ZUQTYz6wIZJenUbuQKv4SyJFvtYbK4=; b=qofctCWVxbwbBNMCBJEKljZGzgjC6FUnVocueJX8ipT5czRJznBmMMLECzipLernBp 1s+nz5gqndo55v9MVjpHPdqV/uzUWISkSMASV3sP8uIMQe+++krz/Y226A6l+vIHZZ1p JoAXrT4Th5Gu8iOl5RpEOE/4B8qLul5eglk8U= Received: by 10.68.14.132 with SMTP id p4mr36061077pbc.31.1321377293000; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:14:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([123.117.57.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id km16sm66394804pbb.9.2011.11.15.09.14.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:14:51 -0800 (PST) From: darcsis@gmail.com (Denise H. G.) To: Matthias Apitz In-Reply-To: <20111115124114.GA1482@tiny> (Matthias Apitz's message of "Tue, 15 Nov 2011 13:41:15 +0100") Organization: Pluto The Planet References: <20111115124114.GA1482@tiny> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) X-Envelope-To: guru@unixarea.de Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:14:42 +0800 Message-ID: <8739dpwbnh.fsf@pluton.xbsd.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems in ppp negotiating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:14:53 -0000 Hi What is in your /etc/ppp.conf? To better locate your problem, you'd better show us the config file. Regards! -- Hindsight is an exact science. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 15 17:33:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CC4106564A for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from ns2.bafirst.com (ns2.bafirst.com [97.67.198.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF4B8FC0C for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ns1.encontacto.net ([189.251.170.241]) by ns2.bafirst.com with esmtp; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:33:48 -0600 id 000DA80E.4EC2A27C.00011333 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by ns1.encontacto.net with local; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:34:32 -0600 id 000CF00B.4EC2A2A8.00012201 Received: from dsl-189-251-170-241-dyn.prod-infinitum.com.mx (dsl-189-251-170-241-dyn.prod-infinitum.com.mx [189.251.170.241]) by econet.encontacto.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:34:32 -0600 Message-ID: <20111115113432.41171y0ir6r7p0pw@econet.encontacto.net> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:34:32 -0600 From: eculp To: Boris Samorodov References: <20111114135054.1555270hw8a9d2xw@econet.encontacto.net> <4EC23FE6.5060809@passap.ru> In-Reply-To: <4EC23FE6.5060809@passap.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (5.0-cvs) X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/6.0.2 X-IMP-Server: 189.251.170.241 X-Originating-IP: 189.251.170.241 X-Originating-User: eculp@encontacto.net Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Stuck between current and 9 release. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:33:52 -0000 Quoting Boris Samorodov : > 14.11.2011 23:50, eculp =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > >> I have been looking for an amd 64 version of a release snapshot and >> haven't found anything close. > > Seems that you need this: > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/ > > --=20 > WBR, Boris Samorodov (bsam) > FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve > Thanks Boris. You are a life saver. Hopefully the Handbook will be =20 updated. The current one has the following: Acquire the Memory Stick Image The memory stick image can be downloaded from the ISO-IMAGES/ directory from ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/arch/arch/ISO-IMAGES/version/Free= BSD-9.0-RELEASE-arch-memstick.img. Replace arch and version with the architecture and the version number which you want to install, respectively. For example, the memory stick images for FreeBSD/i386 9.0-RELEASE are available from =20 ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/i386/ISO-IMAGES/9.0/FreeBSD-= 9.0-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img. Thanks again. ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 15 18:00:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D26106566B for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:00:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f44.google.com (mail-pz0-f44.google.com [209.85.210.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AAA18FC16 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:00:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk33 with SMTP id 33so32260114pzk.3 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:00:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lS5MIw90+1f561I4sCqRLvWt5FUBqvqTnmd9Rj5CRSA=; b=GXwS+fnEYFWjipcoYQIz405piZZQgrZvRyCTm2xS3UnaxpEE9s4a3WNy7XjbaDb3GO XKmFa0QkxQ4dCOEenzY1XaMOiv2hq2nZar3Ys0R1/CSH9Ze1A4nU85RcoYNzsfrBH95g 8vPIAb3K4HYHtVXYCyjX9eidOR7foY2nyHhbg= Received: by 10.68.39.193 with SMTP id r1mr16009324pbk.75.1321380040557; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:00:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s4sm66666670pbq.8.2011.11.15.10.00.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:00:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC2B782.6090204@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:03:30 -0800 From: Edward Martinez User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.2.20) Gecko/20110804 Thunderbird/3.1.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4EBF294D.6060306@gmail.com> <20111113030251.ed94d59f.freebsd@edvax.de> <4EC1A161.1080109@gmail.com> <20111115022315.eee098f3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20111115022315.eee098f3.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: apps to display cpu temp X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:00:41 -0000 On 11/14/11 17:23, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:16:49 -0800, Edward Martinez wrote: >> Thanks!, Even though mbmon is about 10 degrees off from what the >> BIOS is reporting. I'm still a happycamper. > I had a similar observation with my P4 system: CPU temp > would always "flatline" at 60 deg. C. > > > >> I have a question, is it supposed to be "device iichsmb" or "device >> iicsmb" like you have listed? > The example listed is from my kernel configuration of that > particular P4 system, where it _worked_ properly. I had > inserted "device iicsmb" as per kernel configuration notes. > The OS in question was 7-STABLE. > > > h Thanks again. mbmon is still staying somewhat parallel to what the BIOS reports. I was bit confused because i've only have read about "ichsmb" previously. However I've learned something new: "iicsmb" http://www.gsp.com/cgi-bin/man.cgi?section=4&topic=ichsmb http://www.unix.com/man-page/FreeBSD/4/iicsmb/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 15 18:33:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFA0106564A for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:33:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward20.mail.yandex.net (forward20.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1402::5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581A88FC14 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:33:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp19.mail.yandex.net (smtp19.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.19]) by forward20.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id C77DB10436B3; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 22:33:22 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1321382002; bh=VUlW1QG9mCBQOi9bEQYpLS/1iM0k2f12mD5APXVYebA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=sUqlTCKfPe7aCBqnSEe3OhuPwCLAzj2IrvIBT2T9YgOZwYc+GbV7+w5or1zmNBq33 Qr+WtXPB4Gqnta6CkzuriouAxRrycxgsaUuthQeXBYQMnDoXmOJXQbCMyLSbk5grGJ BLQTM0n+fzmVnrdrsYJRIRemQt7JK/zUz9WbQCro= Received: from smtp19.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp19.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id A5A52BE0341; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 22:33:22 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1321382002; bh=VUlW1QG9mCBQOi9bEQYpLS/1iM0k2f12mD5APXVYebA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=sUqlTCKfPe7aCBqnSEe3OhuPwCLAzj2IrvIBT2T9YgOZwYc+GbV7+w5or1zmNBq33 Qr+WtXPB4Gqnta6CkzuriouAxRrycxgsaUuthQeXBYQMnDoXmOJXQbCMyLSbk5grGJ BLQTM0n+fzmVnrdrsYJRIRemQt7JK/zUz9WbQCro= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp19.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id XM1idR3o-XM1KkC1p; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 22:33:22 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:33:21 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1858421324.20111115203321@yandex.ru> To: RW In-Reply-To: <20111114235054.7c1e96c3@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <1274456846.20111114215728@yandex.ru> <20111114205141.2bf80ae1@gumby.homeunix.com> <908814265.20111115000600@yandex.ru> <20111114235054.7c1e96c3@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: geli + journal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:33:24 -0000 Здравствуйте, RW. Вы писали 15 ноября 2011 г., 1:50:54: R> On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:06:00 +0200 R> Коньков Евгений wrote: >>catch idea, but some question: >> in this situation .eli.journal journal device will not be encrypted? >> can you describe how data flow will be? R> The journal is encrypted unless you choose to put it on a separate R> non-encrypted device. R> In principle the data is encrypted into the journal, decrypted from R> the journal and then re-encrypted into its final location. In practice R> I've found that in file copying between disks, writing uses about R> twice as much cpu time as reading, so maybe the decryption from the R> journal can be avoided by caching. Are there differences between .eli.journal or .journal.eli? -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 15 19:25:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC0F1065677 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:25:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CAB78FC0C for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:25:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.155.28] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de.) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQOcy-0001ji-8w for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:25:07 +0100 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de. (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de. 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(8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id pAFJPK37001136 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:25:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de.: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:25:20 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111115192519.GA1086@tiny> References: <20111115124114.GA1482@tiny> <8739dpwbnh.fsf@pluton.xbsd.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <8739dpwbnh.fsf@pluton.xbsd.name> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 89.204.155.28 Subject: Re: problems in ppp negotiating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:25:09 -0000 El dнa Wednesday, November 16, 2011 a las 01:14:42AM +0800, Denise H. G. escribiу: > Hi > > What is in your /etc/ppp.conf? To better locate your problem, you'd > better show us the config file. Hello, I was thinking in this, but then I realized that the ppp.bad file contained it, even the SIM PIN; anyway, here it is: # default: set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command umts: set device /dev/cuaU0.0 # device name in CURRENT set speed 230400 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \ \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATZ OK \ AT+CFUN=1 OK \ at+cpin="4708" O \ AT+COPS=0 OK \ AT+CGDCONT=1,\\\"IP\\\",\\\"pinternet.interkom.de\\\" OK \ \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" set logout "ABORT BUSY ABORT ERROR TIMEOUT 30 \"\" +++ATH O ATH OK" set phone *99*1\# set authname "fonic" set authkey "fonic" set timeout 300 set ifaddr 0.0.0.0/0 10.64.64.64/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 add default HISADDR # Add a (sticky) default route enable dns disable ipv6cp -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 15 20:30:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1043106564A for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unix.hacker@comcast.net) Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472D78FC0C for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xYTo1h00A0SCNGk54YW22h; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:30:02 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([68.43.224.227]) by omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xYW11h0114uzdYs3VYW2jQ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:30:02 +0000 Message-ID: <4EC2CBC9.30002@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 15:30:01 -0500 From: Allen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4EBE2D07.8080005@comcast.net> <20111112232241.19243c95.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20111112232241.19243c95.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: What are the technical differences between Linux and BSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:30:03 -0000 On 11/12/2011 5:22 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:23:35 -0500, Allen wrote: >> I'm going to go ahead and agree with the other replies on here and say >> you should REALLY get some History books on Unix / Linux / BSD, and read >> them. I'd recommend "Just for Fun", "A Quarter Century of Unix" and also >> the DVD "25 Years of Berkeley Unix", and a few others mentioned already. > > For more details about SysV and explaination of historical > contexts I may append: > > The magic garden explained. > The internals of UNIX System 5 release 4. > by Benny Goodheart& James Cox. Ja Wohl! There's a BUNCH of books that explain the Historical aspect to Unix, Linux, and BSD in general, and currently, I've got quite a few. Just for Fun was the one I was talking about where Linus said he basically wanted it to be....Well, I guess what FreeBSD is now. The Documentary "Revolution OS" is another thing to add to the list of what you can watch to learn about this. I have Revolution OS and it's a great documentary for learning how the Linux and FOSS side of things got started. The BSD part of things, has a GREAT speech by "Kirk" who is currently on the FreeBSD Core, so, between the fact that he's a core member, and of course the fact that he shared an office with Bill Joy, and, was one of the first people porting things for BSD while he was still at Berkeley, I think he's got a very Unique ability to tell the story. You can watch the DVD "20 Years of Berkeley Unix" which you can order from his web site, as well as from BSDmall. I have it on DVD too, and it's wonderful. He starts out talking about the History of Multi User systems, and then goes into the History of Unix a little, and then, gets the History of BSD going. He then takes questions from the Audience and answers them. He's got a GREAT sense of Humor, and my Wife and I watch this all the time. He's really funny, and makes you want to watch it. So, basically, for Documentaries, you have Revolution OS, and the DVD by Kirk, and then in the books area, you have "Just for Fun" and "A Quarter Century of Unix" that will explain basically every aspect of the Historical side of things. I'd recommend both books, and both videos to anyone. I'm interested in History, so these were obvious buys for me. Also of interest, is "The Complete FreeBSD" by Greg Lehey. He does a wonderful job with those books. I have the Third edition I got when I bought "The BSD PowerPak" from a Best Buy Electronics store which came with FreeBSD 4.0, and the Tool Kit CDs, and then I bought the 4th Edition Book by itself from FreeBSDMall, and they go into some decent detail on Unix, BSD, and even some info about DOS. Buy those if you can. The books are a bit pricey, but well worth it. -Allen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 15 20:38:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB1C106566C for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:38:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unix.hacker@comcast.net) Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235638FC14 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:38:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xYdt1h0080cZkys54Yeiiw; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:38:42 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([68.43.224.227]) by omta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xYeh1h01h4uzdYs3WYeidJ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:38:42 +0000 Message-ID: <4EC2CDD1.6040201@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 15:38:41 -0500 From: Allen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000001cc90c0$a0c16050$e24420f0$@org> <20111024180745.N45635@crusader.bac.edu> In-Reply-To: <20111024180745.N45635@crusader.bac.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Breakin attempt X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:38:42 -0000 On 10/24/2011 6:08 PM, William Myers wrote: > I'm seeing the same thing from the same IP adresses. > > William Myers > Associate Professor, Computer Studies > 100 Belmont-Mount Holly Road > Belmont Abbey College > Belmont, NC 28012-1802 > (704) 461-6823 > FAX: (704) 461-5051 > myers@crusader.bac.edu > > On Sat, 22 Oct 2011, Admin ValhallaProjectet wrote: > >> Hello all >> >> >> >> FreeBSD odin.thorshammare.org 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Sat >> Oct 22 >> 10:14:48 CEST 2011 hasse@odin.thorshammare.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ODIN >> i386 >> >> Firewall PF. >> >> Blocking China and some other related countries in that region. >> Disabled ssh root logins >> >> >> >> Apparently, I'm under some kind of attack, for the last 3 days. >> >> Lots of attempts to ssh in as root from many different IP addresses. >> >> No bruteforce attempts. >> >> This just puzzles me. Using all these resources ? To achieve what ? >> >> Below is a one hour snip from my auth.log >> >> Nothing unusual in pflog >> >> Appreciate all ideas of how to proceed with this mather. >> >> >> >> Best regards Hasse *SNIP* I wouldn't worry much about this personally; It looks like bots. Have you patched everything? Have you considered moving SSH and other known ports to different ports? Most canned exploits are going to use common methods. Therefore, if you patch your system, and move all services running to a non standard port, a lot of things no longer work. It's sort of like changing your system around in Windows to kill off most viruses that are coded in a manner that, simply moving directories around, completely disables their ability to work. Basically; Patch your system, and keep it updated with security and bug fixes; Change the Ports used by services to non standard ones. Don't ever allow root to log in remotely, and keep your filters running. Once you change the ports; Most exploits and bots cease to function, so you don't really have to worry much about it. I know of some people who actually just block all traffic except what they want allowed, and even then, they've got it running on none standard ports, and they block all of China, and even though I consider it a little racist to do that, they say it works well. -Allen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 15 20:46:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173A3106564A for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB4F8FC12 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:46:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so7416512wyf.13 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:46:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sd8JHkxMSkGkceWrL2rBnE6vT5Ghufza6sn8B5eVBJQ=; b=RX7CxTCbwS7LKcIMoJH/SHzrTPsdp6gMuHnUf5JtNAmnrAuQxwlRoslKrjBzS5On3A hYO0SV3K34/B8BayxfHkShsEcxmX2HeY3XqPEFBt/NXsOW9AguPEEH4aQ+O8Y6KXY35Z 7nu0zFsaG+wizncba2e/rEhGEmflh8bg9yBpQ= Received: by 10.180.104.35 with SMTP id gb3mr13610065wib.11.1321389973383; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:46:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dn5sm15110673wib.4.2011.11.15.12.46.11 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:46:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:46:09 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111115204609.42d6ca9e@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <1858421324.20111115203321@yandex.ru> References: <1274456846.20111114215728@yandex.ru> <20111114205141.2bf80ae1@gumby.homeunix.com> <908814265.20111115000600@yandex.ru> <20111114235054.7c1e96c3@gumby.homeunix.com> <1858421324.20111115203321@yandex.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: geli + journal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:46:15 -0000 On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:33:21 +0200 Коньков Евгений wrote: > Are there differences between .eli.journal or .journal.eli? AFAIK it only works one way round From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 15 21:04:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8361065672 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unix.hacker@comcast.net) Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9D98FC13 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:04:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xZ451h0080Fqzac54Z4ymC; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:04:58 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([68.43.224.227]) by omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xZ4y1h00D4uzdYs3UZ4yWM; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:04:58 +0000 Message-ID: <4EC2D3FA.3040804@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 16:04:58 -0500 From: Allen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E900B3F.9010400@comcast.net> <20111008191614.27d9e7b0@cox.net> <201110090933.41543.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <20111010131351.4b452741@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <20111010131351.4b452741@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: pkg_upgrade seems to try server that isn't right X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:04:58 -0000 On 10/10/2011 2:13 PM, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 09:33:41 +0100 > Mike Clarke wrote: > >> On Sunday 09 October 2011, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: >> >>> I assume you mean "pkg_upgrade" (not "upgrade_pkg")? >>> >>> See the "ENVIRONMENT" section of the man page. All of the pkg_* >>> tools are consistent in how they reference these variables. Thanks. I'll look into this. It took me a while to reply I know, I've been busy the last few weeks and haven't really had much time to do much so, sorry about taking forever to reply. I appreciate any help given. >> There isn't a pkg_upgrade in the base system and I'm not aware of one >> in ports either but I'm open to correction. There is a python script, >> pkgupgrade, developed by Michel Talon which might meet the OP's needs >> . Alternatively the OP could use >> either portmaster or portupgrade from ports, both of these can be >> forced to use packages instead of building from source by using the >> -P or -PP options. >> > > Whoops. My mistake: > > $ pkg_which `which pkg_upgrade` > bsdadminscripts-6.1.1_1 Yea, that's one of the things I've installed. I in general have a very distinct way I install FreeBSD, and, really, ANY OS I use, which is basically the Net Install CD. I've been using Net Install for some time now because I like it, and I first started doing this when I realized one day during a Debian install, that I REALLY didn't feel like downloading 14 CDs, when in reality, I only wanted a certain number of Packages, so, I looked around, and saw that the Net Installer was not only a fairly small CD, but ONE CD, and I could tell it what I wanted to do exactly. Debian's fairly similar to FreeBSD in that respect; It has the Net Installer Option, and, the APT system with apt-get install, is a lot like FreeBSD's pkg_add -r option, and I like that a lot. So basically, after I downloaded the ISO file for the Net Installer, I booted from it, installed, and then, I loaded up a Terminal, and started adding exactly what I wanted to install. I installed some normal stuff, like Gnome, KDE, Enlightenment, E-Term, and a few others, and once I had all that going, I started just adding what I actually wanted. When I started downloading a new version of FreeBSD, I noticed that it too had this option the entire time, and after feeling a little bit stupid for not realizing it sooner, I started using it right away. I haven't downloaded an entire set in some time. Basically, I like very much how FreeBSD and Debian share a common ground in this respect. I usually grab a CD for FreeBSD, then, once I've booted from the CD, I tell it to use an FTP Server for installation, and I install the Base system only. This came from me wanting to install FreeBSD, and the Ports Collection, and then, realizing that the FreeBSD Installer, does NOT have an option to skip anything. I got stuck in an infinite loop while it tried, over and over again, to install a certain couple of Ports that were required, and I couldn't get it to skip that Port. I'd Love it if FreeBSD started doing this, as it would be a lot easier. I mean if you have a Dependency that doesn't want to install, or fails to install period, it would be nice for it to ask you "Would you like to skip this for now, and all required ports that depend on it?" But, it doesn't. So, for now, I just do a Net Install, get the Base System done, and once I finish with that, I boot up, log in, and once I finish logging in, I either use pkg_add -r, or, I load sysinstall, and then I select the Ports / Packages I want to install, usually in a batch kind of style; I'll select one section of them categories, and start selecting what I want, then let it install. Once that finishes up, I'll load up /etc/rc.conf and add Linux BASE and all that, and then grab the Packages for that and a few other things. In general I want to have a selection of text editors, and I use both VI, Vim, and Emacs, and a few others, and then of course Window Maker and so on, and once I finish up, I have my system exactly how I want it. I've written multiple installation HOWTOs for FreeBSD, Linux, and dual booting with FreeBSD, Linux, and Windows, and of course, one file I did for AntiOnline, which was titled "FreeBSD for Linux users" which was pretty popular actually; I wrote a HOWTO, and posted it, and it wasbasically meant to sort of help explain how things work in FreeBSD compared to Linux, like getting sound working, getting locate going, and a bunch more, and asked anyone who'd like to, to add in their own data, and it was actually pretty nice. Sorry about rambling on, but I haven't been around for weeks heh. Anyway, I will be checking into that, and I've saved all the mails sent about this so I can go over them. Thanks again very much, -Allen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 15 23:31:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD52106566B for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:31:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpistanbulbilisim@setrow.com) Received: from mgw04-07.relay04.setrow.com (mgw04-07.relay04.setrow.com [212.252.24.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904C18FC0A for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:31:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mgw04-07.relay04.setrow.com (PowerMTA(TM) v3.5r15) id hobr6812p1c0 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:31:28 +0200 (envelope-from ) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:31:26 +0200 To: questions@freebsd.org From: =?utf-8?Q?=C4=B0stanbul_Bili=C5=9Fim?= Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Setrow Importance: Normal Precedence: bulk X-MAIL-INFORMATION: 45578464-7931-270-Tr-0-questions@freebsd.org-1 Delivered-To: =?utf-8?Q?=C4=B0stanbul_Bili=C5=9Fim_?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: =?utf-8?q?Teknolojiyi_bizimle_ya=C5=9Fay=C4=B1n?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:31:49 -0000 Size =C3=B6zel b=C3=BClteni g=C3=B6rmek i=C3=A7in a=C5=9Fa=C4=9F=C4=B1daki = linke t=C4=B1klay=C4=B1n=C4=B1z:=20 T=C4=B1klay=C4=B1n=C4=B1z=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 16 00:15:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0159106566B for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 00:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crtb@cape.com) Received: from mrelay1.cape.com (mrelay3.cape.com [216.237.97.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14728FC0C for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 00:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tomato (209-213-65-25.meganet.net [209.213.65.25]) by mrelay1.cape.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C622800B; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:15:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:15:01 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Bacon X-X-Sender: crtb@tomato.local To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Over His Head Subject: Build options built by dialog(1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 00:15:04 -0000 I stumbled into a problem trying to get xorg up on my current 9.0-RC1. I selected an intolerable choice, notable PTH. Now the choice of Python causes the build to fail, and I can't find the output of dialog(1). Question: How can I restart the build with a new dialog(1)? Put another way, where are the various build variables kept? Once again, this old 650-704-7070-PDP4-KA/KI/KL/KS-CTSS- Convex-IBMPC-3B1 warrior needs help :-} Chuck Bacon -- crtb@cape.com ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 16 00:51:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17B7106564A for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 00:51:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (mail1.sourcehosting.net [74.205.51.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F9E8FC13 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 00:51:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 68-189-245-235.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.245.235] helo=imac.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.73 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1RQTJF-000ENQ-Mp; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:25:09 -0500 Received: from imac.entropy.prv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imac.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7595DBDEBA7; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:25:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4EC302DE.6030008@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:25:02 -0500 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111103 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Bacon References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 68.189.245.235 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: glarkin@FreeBSD.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail1.sourcehosting.net X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_PBL, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL, RDNS_DYNAMIC, TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.sourcehosting.net) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Build options built by dialog(1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 00:51:57 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/15/11 7:15 PM, Chuck Bacon wrote: > I stumbled into a problem trying to get xorg up on my > current 9.0-RC1. I selected an intolerable choice, > notable PTH. Now the choice of Python causes the build > to fail, and I can't find the output of dialog(1). > Question: How can I restart the build with a new > dialog(1)? Put another way, where are the various > build variables kept? > Once again, this old 650-704-7070-PDP4-KA/KI/KL/KS-CTSS- > Convex-IBMPC-3B1 warrior needs help :-} > Chuck Bacon -- crtb@cape.com > ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY Hi Chuck, Check in /var/db/ports/*/options. You can also run "make config" or "make rmconfig" in a port directory to re-configure or remove the current configuration, respectively. HTH, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/cpucycle/ - Follow you, follow me -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7DAt4ACgkQ0sRouByUApBmFgCgnxZx1BaWyi1qwbLacLPysqnr bd0An30/VE3+nqLS5IkramZjeM4pXwJ2 =C4VN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 16 02:12:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9F3106566B for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:12:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231A28FC14 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-104-16.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.104.16]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6023D0DA; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 03:11:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id pAG2BwlR002091; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 03:11:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 03:11:58 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Chuck Bacon Message-Id: <20111116031158.94782274.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Build options built by dialog(1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:12:00 -0000 On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:15:01 -0500 (EST), Chuck Bacon wrote: > I stumbled into a problem trying to get xorg up on my > current 9.0-RC1. I selected an intolerable choice, > notable PTH. Now the choice of Python causes the build > to fail, and I can't find the output of dialog(1). > Question: How can I restart the build with a new > dialog(1)? Put another way, where are the various > build variables kept? The options are stored in /var/db/ports//options. The "Frontend" to access them is: # make config # make rmconfig # make config-recursive # make rmconfig-recursive The last two options are really helpful when the problems you're encountering are provided by a dependency port. See "man 7 ports" for details. Optional, in worst case, options can also be provided my a Makefile.local in the port's directory. Also note that /etc/make.conf as well as the configuration files of port management tools may contain options. > Once again, this old 650-704-7070-PDP4-KA/KI/KL/KS-CTSS- > Convex-IBMPC-3B1 warrior needs help :-} Impressive path! =^_^= -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 16 02:45:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4DE71065676 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001DE8FC08 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:45:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk3 with SMTP id k3so11671467ggn.13 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:45:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.217.195 with SMTP id pa3mr30825075igc.12.1321411500100; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:45:00 -0800 (PST) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.14.200 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:45:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20110811233804.GC6585@eggman.experts-exchange.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:45:00 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: JFQlX4N9HOnITrWyoklX941y8Gg Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: Jason Helfman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ports make search not working in jails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:45:10 -0000 On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Jason Helfman wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 11:05:14AM -0400, Alejandro Imass thus spake: >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Alejandro Imass wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, > [...] > Today I noticed something interesting... > [...] OK, so it happened to me again on a new server and here is the cause: When you initialize ezjail if you forget the -p to include ports you can actually fix this by re-initializing with ezjail-admin update -p -i and perhaps -P afterwards. The problem arises if you had already created a jail _before_ you realized you forgot the -p switch. When you try to fetchindex it will tell you the error I originally posted. All you have to do on those jails that you created before fixing it with -p is just create the directory /var/ports inside each one of those jails. >From then on, the fetchindex will work and everything else will work as well. I'm guessing this would fix itself if you install a first port without fetching the index, which is probably what happened to me before when it seemed to start working. For the thread history i must conclude my last post on this was wrong and the actual way to fix it is by creating the directory in the problematic jails. Best, -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 16 10:17:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7ED6106566B for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:17:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out9.libero.it (cp-out9.libero.it [212.52.84.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEED8FC1B for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:17:40 +0000 (UTC) X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B0209.4EC38D25.00AD,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-libjamoibt: 1555 Received: from soth.ventu (151.41.163.249) by cp-out9.libero.it (8.5.133) id 4EA2ECE1039E0E3F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:15:01 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pAGAEq6d063825 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:14:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4EC38D1C.30205@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:14:52 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; it-IT; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111110 Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.72 on 10.1.2.13 Subject: ATA trouble again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:17:41 -0000 Hello. This is a follow-up of a previous thread, which can be found here: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-July/232257.html I finally have two working WD Green drives: they have run severel times for more than a few days continuosly and I've run their full diags a few times over a span of some weeks, so I think I can be sure of that. Still I experience lot of troubles; however, trying different boxes, I found out that these depend heavily on the controller I use. A) A-Bit KV7 (featuring a VIA KT600) on 7.3 and 8.2/i386 With only one disk, I get some NID_NOT_FOUND errors, but I could almost say they can be ignored. With two disks, the NID_NOT_FOUND errors come frequently; rsync will work, but a "diff" will sooner or later fail. I tried Linux on this box: it frequently complains about errors and resets the ATA channels; this possibly will result in performance penalties, but it seems to work. Since then this box is dead, so I cannot do other tests. B) BioStar A785G3 with 8.1/i386: > # pciconf -lv > atapci0@pci0:0:17:0: class=0x010601 card=0x43911002 chip=0x43911002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'ATI Technologies Inc. / Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.' > device = 'SB700 SATA Controller [AHCI mode]' > class = mass storage > subclass = SATA This works flawlessly. C) Intel SC5400BRP with 7.3/i386: > atapci2@pci0:0:31:2: class=0x01018f card=0x34768086 chip=0x26808086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '631xESB/632xESB/3100 Serial ATA Storage Controller' > class = mass storage > subclass = ATA No way this will work: using two disk gives gobs of errors, until the whole box crashes. With only one disk it appears to work for a while, but will eventually panic over a few day. This same controller used to work with a single Hitachi drive. With two Seagates drives, I get READ_DMA48/WRITE_DMA48 timeouts, the disks will hang for minutes, but then they will start again; this does not happen as soon as I start using them, but will happen every some minutes after a few hours of usage. D) Intel SC5600BRP with 7.3/amd64: > atapci0@pci0:0:31:2: class=0x01018f card=0x34dc8086 chip=0x3a208086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = 'SATA2(4Port2) (ICH10 Family)' > class = mass storage > subclass = ATA > atapci1@pci0:0:31:5: class=0x010185 card=0x34dc8086 chip=0x3a268086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = 'SATA2(2Port2) (ICH10 Family)' > class = mass storage > subclass = ATA This works flawlessly, with every HD I could try (one or two). E) Promise PCI controller with 7.3/i386 and /amd64: > atapci0@pci0:7:2:0: class=0x018000 card=0x3d17105a chip=0x3d17105a rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Promise Technology Inc' > device = 'SATA 300 TX4 Controller (PDC40718-GP)' > class = mass storage This will give few errors if not none at all; however the box will sometimes reboot or just hang (phisical reset required). This happens on two different box with both WD Green and Seagate drives. So: altough a bit flaky, WD drives are not the main problem. I'll still appreciate some help WRT the third box (Intel SC5400BRP with 7.3/i386). Different BIOS settings did not help with WD drives, but I still have to test them with Seagate's. Possibly an OS upgrade would help? 8.x also has an AHCI driver that 7.3 is missing. I don't care that much for top of the chart performance, I just want this thing to work decently. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 16 11:18:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BCF106564A for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:18:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F030B8FC14 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:18:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RQdV5-000155-3M for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:17:55 +0100 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:17:55 +0100 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:17:55 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:17:42 +0100 Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <1274456846.20111114215728@yandex.ru> <20111114205141.2bf80ae1@gumby.homeunix.com> <908814265.20111115000600@yandex.ru> <20111114235054.7c1e96c3@gumby.homeunix.com> <1858421324.20111115203321@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig13F7A7F1F6745CBD90BE5C43" X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111004 Thunderbird/7.0.1 In-Reply-To: <1858421324.20111115203321@yandex.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Subject: Re: geli + journal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:18:03 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig13F7A7F1F6745CBD90BE5C43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15/11/2011 19:33, =D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BD=D1=8C=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B2 =D0=95=D0= =B2=D0=B3=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B9 wrote: > =D0=97=D0=B4=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B2=D1=83=D0=B9=D1=82=D0=B5= , RW. >=20 > =D0=92=D1=8B =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB=D0=B8 15 =D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=8F= =D0=B1=D1=80=D1=8F 2011 =D0=B3., 1:50:54: >=20 > R> On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:06:00 +0200 > R> =D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BD=D1=8C=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B2 =D0=95=D0=B2=D0=B3=D0=B5=D0= =BD=D0=B8=D0=B9 wrote: >=20 >>> catch idea, but some question: >>> in this situation .eli.journal journal device will not be encrypted?= >>> can you describe how data flow will be? >=20 > R> The journal is encrypted unless you choose to put it on a separate > R> non-encrypted device.=20 >=20 > R> In principle the data is encrypted into the journal, decrypted from > R> the journal and then re-encrypted into its final location. In practi= ce > R> I've found that in file copying between disks, writing uses about > R> twice as much cpu time as reading, so maybe the decryption from the= > R> journal can be avoided by caching. >=20 > Are there differences between .eli.journal or .journal.eli? Yes, UFS gjournal support will only work with .eli.journal. --------------enig13F7A7F1F6745CBD90BE5C43 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7Dm9YACgkQldnAQVacBciz4gCgx0du5VND2StcW4/Gdu/x9hqk Lo0An34epib8mkRvQwiDcpkjSsIVNyfT =Pebc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig13F7A7F1F6745CBD90BE5C43-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 16 11:24:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCEE106566B for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:24:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken@mthelicon.com) Received: from hercules.mthelicon.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:49f0:2023::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5458FC17 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:24:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PortaPegIII (hydra.fletchermoorland.co.uk [78.33.209.59]) (authenticated bits=0) by hercules.mthelicon.com (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAGBNrQb032366; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:23:54 GMT (envelope-from ken@mthelicon.com) From: "Pegasus Mc Cleaft" To: "'Andrea Venturoli'" , References: <4EC38D1C.30205@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <4EC38D1C.30205@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:23:53 -0000 Message-ID: <005601cca452$3a21f800$ae65e800$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcykSRzSWE/HFvDzS5e/Nst/XUvQLgABfzwQ Content-Language: en-gb X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=15.0 tests=BAYES_00,DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX, FSL_HELO_NON_FQDN_1 autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on hercules.mthelicon.com Cc: Subject: RE: ATA trouble again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:24:25 -0000 >Hello. > >This is a follow-up of a previous thread, which can be found here: > >> = http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-July/232257. >> html > > > >I finally have two working WD Green drives: they have run severel times >for more than a few days continuosly and I've run their full diags >a few times over a span of some weeks, so I think I can be sure of = that. >Still I experience lot of troubles; however, trying different boxes,=20 >I found out that these depend heavily on the controller I use. Hi Andrea,=20 I don=E2=80=99t know if this will help you or not, but it may lead you = to another possibility.=20 I had a similar problem on my box (I was running 9.0-Current and=20 Now 10.0-Current). I was also running under ZFS and would get TONS of=20 Errors across my SATA drives. The errors would be anything from = time-outs to physical locking of the drive (I would have to pull the drive to let the PHY on the controller reset and then plug the drive back in before it would communicate with the machine again). In particular this would happen when I was doing large writes to the drives. Read performance=20 also suffered. I then created a single drive pool and did a large transfer to the drive (about 800Gb) and the controller timed out again. I moved the drive to various ports on the machine and also various controllers in the machine. Some seemed to exabate the problem quicker but no port or drive was safe from this.=20 I later found out that the drives I was using were using 4096 Bytes per sector. When I recreated the zpool using 4096 byte sectors All the timeout errors disappeared and my data-rate has climbed Dramatically.=20 Are you using ZFS or do you know if the drives are using 4096 bytes Per sector? Ta Peg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 16 12:01:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B52106566B for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out7.libero.it (cp-out7.libero.it [212.52.84.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1E58FC22 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:01:23 +0000 (UTC) X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B0203.4EC3A612.006A,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-libjamoibt: 1555 Received: from soth.ventu (151.41.163.249) by cp-out7.libero.it (8.5.133) id 4E9539DD051B1C15; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:01:22 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pAGC1Ct7084953; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:01:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4EC3A608.8010905@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:01:12 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; it-IT; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111110 Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pegasus Mc Cleaft References: <4EC38D1C.30205@netfence.it> <005601cca452$3a21f800$ae65e800$@com> In-Reply-To: <005601cca452$3a21f800$ae65e800$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.72 on 10.1.2.13 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATA trouble again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:01:24 -0000 On 11/16/11 12:23, Pegasus Mc Cleaft wrote: > Are you using ZFS? No. I'm using gstripe. > or do you know if the drives are using 4096 bytes > Per sector? How do I find out without physical access to the box? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 16 12:52:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FE4106566B for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:52:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darcsis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDBAF8FC08 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iakl21 with SMTP id l21so788655iak.13 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 04:52:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:organization:references:user-agent :x-envelope-to:mail-followup-to:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1Y0ad4yLIgZvBisZKaUlfl1QzHeUkmsJkI2V7GK3LBs=; b=xLVLKqgKj2ZLakiwWtu+n4YoNt7PZqwg3Gf3CwP+AHKKHBJihNtXsgnTMzh/Bmypic W6l4Yr5oI+gmP0OU+caWfrMW7AL4Gch/uDEs36lGT8DV/NeIT+EcUBHtHG749Wj13uXA yP1dOvqbJBJVCa704bpdcrp2zhVSjcoRSTa84= Received: by 10.42.168.202 with SMTP id x10mr31327464icy.4.1321447929074; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 04:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([125.34.65.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z10sm44093542ibv.9.2011.11.16.04.52.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 16 Nov 2011 04:52:07 -0800 (PST) From: darcsis@gmail.com (Denise H. 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To: Matthias Apitz In-Reply-To: <20111115192519.GA1086@tiny> (Matthias Apitz's message of "Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:25:20 +0100") Organization: Pluto The Planet References: <20111115124114.GA1482@tiny> <8739dpwbnh.fsf@pluton.xbsd.name> <20111115192519.GA1086@tiny> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) X-Envelope-To: guru@unixarea.de Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:51:56 +0800 Message-ID: <87ehx8grgz.fsf@pluton.xbsd.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems in ppp negotiating X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:52:10 -0000 On 2011/11/16 at 03:25, Matthias Apitz wrote: >=20 > El d=EDa Wednesday, November 16, 2011 a las 01:14:42AM +0800, Denise H. G= . escribi=F3: >> Hi >>=20 >> What is in your /etc/ppp.conf? To better locate your problem, you'd >> better show us the config file. >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I was thinking in this, but then I realized that the ppp.bad file > contained it, even the SIM PIN; anyway, here it is: >=20 >=20 > #=20 > default: > set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command >=20 > umts: >=20 > set device /dev/cuaU0.0 # device name in CURRENT > set speed 230400 >=20 > set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \ > \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATZ OK \ > AT+CFUN=3D1 OK \ > at+cpin=3D"4708" O \ > AT+COPS=3D0 OK \ > AT+CGDCONT=3D1,\\\"IP\\\",\\\"pinternet.interkom.de\\\" OK \ > \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" >=20 > set logout "ABORT BUSY ABORT ERROR TIMEOUT 30 \"\" +++ATH O ATH OK" >=20 > set phone *99*1\# > set authname "fonic" > set authkey "fonic" > set timeout 300 > set ifaddr 0.0.0.0/0 10.64.64.64/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 The line above might be the problem. If you dial mode is NOT `auto', you don't need `set ifaddr' thing, according to the manual of `ppp(8)'. Or you are using `auto' mode to dial up, give it try to use: set ifaddr 10.64.64.64/0 10.64.64.64/0 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0 This part of the ppp configuration is about using IPCP protocal to negotiate IP address. And your attached ppp logs have IPCP errors. Anyway, I am not sure if this would help or not. Just give it try. Regards. > add default HISADDR # Add a (sticky) default route > enable dns > disable ipv6cp > --=20 > Matthias Apitz > e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ > UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) > UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 > ................=20 --=20 Hindsight is an exact science. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 16 15:12:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C09106564A for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jedwards@bsdftw.org) Received: from mail.bsdftw.org (a104-157.iglou.com [64.253.104.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321078FC12 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.bsdftw.org (unknown [64.253.104.155]) by mail.bsdftw.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BD57930 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:52:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from 75.149.97.29 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jedwards) by webmail.bsdftw.org with HTTP; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:52:48 -0500 Message-ID: <64528a300d8fad2c15268e7cc0b48d4a.squirrel@webmail.bsdftw.org> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:52:48 -0500 From: "James Edwards" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Serial console with incorrect terminal set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:12:03 -0000 Hi All, I have two servers currently colocated, one running FreeBSD 8.2/amd64 , and the other is a Sun Netra T1 that I am attempting to install FreeBSD 8.2 on, over serial. When the system booted up, I was presented with a list of console options and I chose the first option, I believe to be ANSI (I have a knack for never picking the right one). The keyboard mapping was a bit screwed up, but somehow I managed to get to the Fixit shell. In order to test that I had my secondary NIC setup correctly, I just ran 'ping 10.0.0.2' and now it wont stop. If I hit 'Ctrl+C', it keeps going. I tried 'Ctrl+Z' in order to attempt to suspend it so I can kill the process, but that brings up the 'Abort, Restart, Continue' screen, but it gets interrupted by ping. I tried sending a break command using '~#', but I can't get to the OpenFirmware to restart in attempt to pick the correct terminal settings. IIRC, the break is not supported without a kernel that supports it. It could be easier to call my ISP and have someone power down the machine for me, as the Netra has LOM. In a worse case scenario, I can swing by and do it myself after work. My question is, is there another way to either 1) Stop ping or 2) Get to the openfirmware console? Thanks, James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 16 16:23:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42477106564A for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0339C8FC13 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pAGGN49V054614; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:23:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id pAGGN3e4054611; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:23:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:23:03 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Andrea Venturoli In-Reply-To: <4EC3A608.8010905@netfence.it> Message-ID: References: <4EC38D1C.30205@netfence.it> <005601cca452$3a21f800$ae65e800$@com> <4EC3A608.8010905@netfence.it> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:23:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: Pegasus Mc Cleaft , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATA trouble again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:23:05 -0000 On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > On 11/16/11 12:23, Pegasus Mc Cleaft wrote: > >> Are you using ZFS? > > No. > I'm using gstripe. > > > >> or do you know if the drives are using 4096 bytes >> Per sector? > > How do I find out without physical access to the box? diskinfo -v /dev/ada0 Although it may lie about true sector size. Otherwise, get the model number from dmesg and search on it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 16 18:18:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D411065674 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:18:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crtb@cape.com) Received: from mrelay1.cape.com (mrelay1.cape.com [216.237.97.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9611B8FC0C for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:18:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tomato (209-213-65-25.meganet.net [209.213.65.25]) by mrelay1.cape.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654A42BEA0A; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:18:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:18:39 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Bacon X-X-Sender: crtb@tomato.local To: Greg Larkin In-Reply-To: <4EC302DE.6030008@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <4EC302DE.6030008@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Chuck Bacon Subject: Re: Build options built by dialog(1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:18:40 -0000 Bingo! The make {,rm}config looks like it. There's hope for 9.0-R* after all! On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Greg Larkin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/15/11 7:15 PM, Chuck Bacon wrote: >> I stumbled into a problem trying to get xorg up on my >> current 9.0-RC1. I selected an intolerable choice, >> notable PTH. Now the choice of Python causes the build >> to fail, and I can't find the output of dialog(1). >> Question: How can I restart the build with a new >> dialog(1)? Put another way, where are the various >> build variables kept? >> Once again, this old 650-704-7070-PDP4-KA/KI/KL/KS-CTSS- >> Convex-IBMPC-3B1 warrior needs help :-} >> Chuck Bacon -- crtb@cape.com >> ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY > > Hi Chuck, > > Check in /var/db/ports/*/options. You can also run "make config" or > "make rmconfig" in a port directory to re-configure or remove the > current configuration, respectively. > > HTH, > Greg > - -- > Greg Larkin > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve > http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. > http://twitter.com/cpucycle/ - Follow you, follow me > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAk7DAt4ACgkQ0sRouByUApBmFgCgnxZx1BaWyi1qwbLacLPysqnr > bd0An30/VE3+nqLS5IkramZjeM4pXwJ2 > =C4VN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 16 19:02:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFA11065673 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:02:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crtb@cape.com) Received: from mrelay1.cape.com (mrelay2.cape.com [216.237.97.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C3B8FC23 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:02:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tomato (209-213-65-25.meganet.net [209.213.65.25]) by mrelay1.cape.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99022DF935; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:02:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:02:49 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Bacon X-X-Sender: crtb@tomato.local To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20111116031158.94782274.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20111116031158.94782274.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Chuck Bacon Subject: Re: Build options built by dialog(1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:02:50 -0000 Thank you for a very complete way of saying "RTFM" - I confess a distaste for heavy lit, but man pages! I thank you again! Chuck Bacon -- crtb@cape.com ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:15:01 -0500 (EST), Chuck Bacon wrote: >> I stumbled into a problem trying to get xorg up on my >> current 9.0-RC1. I selected an intolerable choice, >> notable PTH. Now the choice of Python causes the build >> to fail, and I can't find the output of dialog(1). >> Question: How can I restart the build with a new >> dialog(1)? Put another way, where are the various >> build variables kept? > > The options are stored in /var/db/ports//options. > The "Frontend" to access them is: > > # make config > # make rmconfig > # make config-recursive > # make rmconfig-recursive > > The last two options are really helpful when the problems > you're encountering are provided by a dependency port. > > See "man 7 ports" for details. > > Optional, in worst case, options can also be provided > my a Makefile.local in the port's directory. Also note > that /etc/make.conf as well as the configuration files > of port management tools may contain options. > > > >> Once again, this old 650-704-7070-PDP4-KA/KI/KL/KS-CTSS- >> Convex-IBMPC-3B1 warrior needs help :-} > > Impressive path! =^_^= > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 16 20:15:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489A41065674 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:15:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45AC8FC16 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyd10 with SMTP id 10so1396635eyd.13 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:15:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8X1yhUcHVuaLcMAeaz3mFwgKT3tvTeu2P+JC0BHsG5g=; b=Sayz4JKTssATCbI3oFBxWVmhfiG7EHvm4NgZ6Ixvz4hIljZe87dMsMpep4vO1nnl0y 8+d6rugf92EnylRdh8d28pMxrspFTcD+rtpF5heSPXkCNQE31Q/yTnAOYql2aqE6yejR FuZedTEIIyDWA8SgRtUJ5knrS1SC49ae+88JU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.216.6 with SMTP id hg6mr21300597qab.95.1321473153369; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:52:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.82.66 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:52:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <64528a300d8fad2c15268e7cc0b48d4a.squirrel@webmail.bsdftw.org> References: <64528a300d8fad2c15268e7cc0b48d4a.squirrel@webmail.bsdftw.org> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:52:33 +0100 Message-ID: From: J65nko To: James Edwards Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial console with incorrect terminal set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:15:36 -0000 On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:52 PM, James Edwards wrote: > Hi All, > > I have two servers currently colocated, one running FreeBSD 8.2/amd64 , > and the other is a Sun Netra T1 that I am attempting to install FreeBSD > 8.2 on, over serial. > > When the system booted up, I was presented with a list of console options > and I chose the first option, I believe to be ANSI (I have a knack for > never picking the right one). =A0The keyboard mapping was a bit screwed u= p, > but somehow I managed to get to the Fixit shell. =A0In order to test that= I > had my secondary NIC setup correctly, I just ran 'ping 10.0.0.2' and now > it wont stop. > > If I hit 'Ctrl+C', it keeps going. =A0I tried 'Ctrl+Z' in order to attemp= t > to suspend it so I can kill the process, but that brings up the 'Abort, > Restart, Continue' screen, but it gets interrupted by ping. =A0I tried > sending a break command using '~#', but I can't get to the OpenFirmware t= o > restart in attempt to pick the correct terminal settings. =A0IIRC, the br= eak > is not supported without a kernel that supports it. > > It could be easier to call my ISP and have someone power down the machine > for me, as the Netra has LOM. =A0In a worse case scenario, I can swing by > and do it myself after work. > > My question is, is there another way to either 1) Stop ping or 2) Get to > the openfirmware console? You can stop ping with : $ pkill -TERM ping >From the ping man page: -c count Stop after sending (and receiving) count ECHO_RESPONSE packets. If this option is not specified, ping will operate until inter- rupted. So with something like "ping -c4 10.0.0.2" , it would stop after 4 pings. Good luck ;) Adriaan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 16 21:46:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5B41065672 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward8.mail.yandex.net (forward8.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:202::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3EA8FC08 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp6.mail.yandex.net (smtp6.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.56]) by forward8.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 790C6F67B6B for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 01:46:06 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1321479966; bh=QG3dKByT5IO6OMrKPFdMiQ9Ao0S8DPcdXrvIH5peTUo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VT7LG+FYJS5UswM4Xl3q1tzlsq3TpyAmbuYPMejKLeERQBOGG7GCuRaVd5RHXh7u3 sL2qIjKufAjtdwqZqlSSo0NoQRNQK6yoHcWAR5sMn4A57Nytdw3eugUGFx5bZai/ti a71xs32rts2W6d4Yh07xde145v/NjtSy8Lo+Plck= Received: from smtp6.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 6181516404BE for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 01:46:06 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1321479966; bh=QG3dKByT5IO6OMrKPFdMiQ9Ao0S8DPcdXrvIH5peTUo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VT7LG+FYJS5UswM4Xl3q1tzlsq3TpyAmbuYPMejKLeERQBOGG7GCuRaVd5RHXh7u3 sL2qIjKufAjtdwqZqlSSo0NoQRNQK6yoHcWAR5sMn4A57Nytdw3eugUGFx5bZai/ti a71xs32rts2W6d4Yh07xde145v/NjtSy8Lo+Plck= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp6.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id k51Ox8v5-k610ijvA; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 01:46:06 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:45:45 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1833661894.20111116234545@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: something wrong with interrupts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:46:08 -0000 Hi, system just rebooted. stay without load one day today, when I login I saw: #top -SIHP last pid: 88958; load averages: 0.99, 0.97, 0.92 up 1+05:27:18 23:45:42 109 processes: 6 running, 84 sleeping, 19 waiting CPU 0: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 97.6% interrupt, 2.4% idle CPU 1: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.2% idle CPU 2: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle CPU 3: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle Mem: 136M Active, 355M Inact, 217M Wired, 212K Cache, 112M Buf, 2211M Free Swap: 32G Total, 32G Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K CPU3 3 29.4H 100.00% idle{idle: cpu3} 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K CPU2 2 29.4H 100.00% idle{idle: cpu2} 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K RUN 1 29.3H 100.00% idle{idle: cpu1} 12 root -88 - 0K 160K CPU0 0 421:07 100.00% intr{irq16: atapci0} 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K RUN 0 22.3H 0.29% idle{idle: cpu0} why intr take all CPU time?? I do nothing! # vmstat -i interrupt total rate irq1: atkbd0 14 0 irq16: atapci0 240185057 2262 irq23: ehci0 ehci1 368174 3 cpu0:timer 438088141 4125 irq256: re0 145321 1 cpu1:timer 373026062 3513 cpu3:timer 57648330 542 cpu2:timer 43618662 410 Total 1153079761 10859 systat -v 1 users Load 0,96 0,96 0,92 16 ноя 23:48 Mem:KB REAL VIRTUAL VN PAGER SWAP PAGER Tot Share Tot Share Free in out in out Act 165920 5840 586612 7676 2264164 count All 278248 7756 2744244 17100 pages Proc: Interrupts r p d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt cow 18012 total 42 47k 1 116 9278 4021 1 1 zfod atkbd0 1 ozfod 9275 atapci0 16 0,0%Sys 25,0%Intr 0,0%User 0,0%Nice 75,0%Idle %ozfod 3 ehci0 ehci | | | | | | | | | | | daefr 4129 cpu0:timer ++++++++++++ prcfr 1 re0 256 12 dtbuf 40 totfr 4129 cpu1:timer Namei Name-cache Dir-cache 126612 desvn react 10 cpu3:timer Calls hits % hits % 90415 numvn pdwak 465 cpu2:timer 317 113 36 31651 frevn pdpgs intrn Disks ada0 da0 pass0 pass1 222376 wire KB/t 15,44 0,00 0,00 0,00 139736 act tps 5 0 0 0 363240 inact MB/s 0,08 0,00 0,00 0,00 212 cache %busy 0 0 0 0 2263952 free # iostat tty ada0 da0 pass0 cpu tin tout KB/t tps MB/s KB/t tps MB/s KB/t tps MB/s us ni sy in id 0 3 10.53 1 0.01 0.01 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 0 0 0 6 94 How to fix that? # uname -a FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0: Sat Nov 12 20:17:02 EET 2011 :/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KES_KERN_v10 i386 -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 16 22:24:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDB5106566B for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:24:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CAE8FC13 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywe9 with SMTP id 9so371826ywe.13 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:24:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.197.99 with SMTP id s63mr5032322yhn.14.1321482267972; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:24:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from papi.localnet ([177.98.48.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i50sm2670455yhk.11.2011.11.16.14.24.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:24:27 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:24:54 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.6.2; amd64; ; ) X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:24:28 -0000 My apologies to all for this, specially to those who already know about this and those who think too little of it. I am really worried about this: http://americancensorship.org/ If these rootless people get control of what goes through the root servers, we will loose the last free medium of expression and info exchange that is not owned by a corporation or anybody. I don't know if I should be worried or not, but if my worries are founded and this comes to pass, as far as I can see, it will be the end of this great tool as we know it today. There is a petition going on here: http://www.avaaz.org/en/save_the_internet/ There are a lot of Americans on this list that have a lot more power than the rest of us to change this. A LOT of people from all over the world is signing this petition. I hope at least some don't judge me to be over dramatic here but this situation sounds very much so. I hope that most of you (if not all) replicates this and that I don't get scalded for this post. I can only hope .... -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 16 22:31:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DC01065673 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:31:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jedwards@bsdftw.org) Received: from mail.bsdftw.org (a104-157.iglou.com [64.253.104.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6808FC13 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from webmail.bsdftw.org (unknown [64.253.104.155]) by mail.bsdftw.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8EF7990 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:31:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from 75.149.97.29 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jedwards) by webmail.bsdftw.org with HTTP; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:31:52 -0500 Message-ID: <4feb9a0257006826b0c54655b77f7b70.squirrel@webmail.bsdftw.org> In-Reply-To: References: <64528a300d8fad2c15268e7cc0b48d4a.squirrel@webmail.bsdftw.org> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:31:52 -0500 From: "James Edwards" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Serial console with incorrect terminal set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:31:53 -0000 On Wed, November 16, 2011 14:52, J65nko wrote: > You can stop ping with : > $ pkill -TERM ping > >>From the ping man page: > > -c count > Stop after sending (and receiving) count ECHO_RESPONSE packets. > If this option is not specified, ping will operate until inter- > rupted. > > So with something like "ping -c4 10.0.0.2" , it would stop after 4 pings. > > Good luck ;) > > Adriaan Hello Adriaan, Thanks for the response, but unfortunately, that's not really what I was looking for, as it was not feasible - I was unable to open another terminal in order to kill the ping process. I probably should have elaborated more, but I was running this from a fixit live cd, but do you know if it is possible to open more than one terminal over serial? I ended up having it powered off earlier today, and when I powered it back on, I made sure to have the correct console keyboard layout, and CTRL + C was working correctly. Thanks, James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 00:18:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9A7106564A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:18:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87B88FC14 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo110.cox.net ([68.230.241.223]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111117001800.XTLY3177.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo110.cox.net> for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:18:00 -0500 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.86.236]) by eastrmimpo110.cox.net with bizsmtp id y0J01h00655wwzE020J0Nr; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:18:00 -0500 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020205.4EC452B8.00E7,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ZOt2FDQ+mrVVVxgXRKzf5SW5Jh1jLT8p/GDSgGTHel4= c=1 sm=1 a=RWe5u1kQBc0A:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:17 a=AfEfcmvjAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=8NkBhgqrppJgU6jg1xcA:9 a=ayqITsOkJKbFDU1uaBkA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=2A2gPVWjU-cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pAH0HxEP048646 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:17:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:17:54 -0600 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111116181754.1fd53d3c@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <20111113074127.6a21b784@scorpio> References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> <44vcrtohej.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20111013162524.GA75476@freebsd.org> <44wrc8iz09.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20111018195712.GA18773@freebsd.org> <4E9F7899.6070401@centurytel.net> <20111020051902.1d120865.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111023153829.216f1a49@cox.net> <20111023192515.5c3da303@cox.net> <20111113044456.431cb4b2@cox.net> <20111113074127.6a21b784@scorpio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD (or any other media now) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:18:07 -0000 On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:41:27 -0500 Jerry wrote: > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:44:56 -0600 > Conrad J. Sabatier articulated: > > > > > Ah-ha! After plowing through a ton of ports and docs tonight, I > > finally had a "Eureka!" moment. > > > > It seems that it's quite possible to fashion a "poor man's" CD > > player app (script) out of the following cdda2wav command options > > (got this example from the man page): > > > > cdda2wav -q -e -t4 -d0 -N > > > > In this case, "-t4" means to play track 4. Using "-B" instead, > > would play the whole disc. > > > > The command simply sends the data to the soundcard (/dev/dsp) as > > it's being ripped. In combination with a few other cdda2wav > > options to obtain the CDDB info for the disc, one could fairly > > easily whip up a little CD player script. > > > > I'm a man on a mission now! :-) I *will* be "rolling up my > > sleeves" and hacking together some shell code in the days to come. > > May even wind up submitting the finished product as a new port for > > the benefit of other folks out there still struggling to play their > > CDs since the CD infrastructure changed not too long ago. > > > > Light! I see light at the end of the tunnel! :-) > > > I applaud your enthusiasm. I actually tend to try and reinvent the > wheel from time to time myself. Not so much because I feel the wheel > has an inherent flaw but rather because I just like a good challenge. > While such endeavors might prove useful from strictly a theoretical > research point of view, in practice they can seriously reduce > productivity. I totally agree. I'm the same when it comes to enjoying a good challenge. Call me masochistic if you will :-), but I do enjoy programming very much. Sometimes just to see if can actually do it. Learning new stuff, that sort of thing. > I often wonder what happened to the premise that computers should make > man's life easier, not harder. Why should users be force to go to > these extremes to just play an audio CD when other OSs all ready have > that capability sans ruminating for such a simple task. Again, totally agree. I really miss the /dev/acd0t${n} method of accessing audio tracks. That was truly a handy feature. > Again, good luck. I won't be partaking of your research since I have > other PCs near me that are fully capable of preforming the relatively > simple task of playing an audio CD. However, if you do get some free > time perhaps you could invest it in some really socially advantageous > work such as find a cure for cancer. Now that would be something that > all could appreciate. Well, if I had the skills, I'd try and fix the current problems associated with audio CD access. But I'm afraid that's just a bit beyond my abilities. I've looked at some source code, but wouldn't have the first clue where to begin. Now, as for curing cancer...I'll leave that to the experts as well. :-) Above all else, though (on a more serious note), I *will* resist the temptation I've sometimes given into in the past, and will *not* resort to taking up residence in the land of the penguin. Would much prefer to stick around here and see how things develop. -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 06:00:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6DA41065674 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538C88FC0A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:00:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so2127592wyf.13 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:00:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jyzeNUvPTTomV61jXgVrXpFvMiTW/gZ/CDe9bRGJSVw=; b=RKysdziUp0PJXXmcRLoWEDs5wp5at77KASM2kn4o3Go8CDSXOVbY+lmFJtBp0cEBxD sMZRcTWISKchdtAxMg/DAzyyDVyBuUhjojiu++R/toYxCk9Es7diqtPEwRhLqdrv4AQo X6qVaVBQKGv3IHb7KOdeNR1M6KbsY7TDzL9r4= Received: by 10.182.207.67 with SMTP id lu3mr7482522obc.79.1321507891162; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:31:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([223.190.236.84]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l7sm948444obo.0.2011.11.16.21.31.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:31:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC49C72.3080401@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:02:34 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: SSL server refusing connection : ECONNREFUSED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:00:10 -0000 Hello, I am new to openssl and trying to create a demo client and server which use SSL v3. But the server, for some reason I cannot figure out, always refuses connections with the client reporting errno as ECONNREFUSED. Can somebody please help me out with what might be the problem ? Relevant portions of sources for server and client are available below. Thank you & Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com //server SSL_METHOD * lpmethod = SSLv3_method(); SSL_CTX * lpctx = SSL_CTX_new(lpmethod); int result = SSL_CTX_use_certificate_chain_file(lpctx, CERT_FILE); assert(result > 0); result = SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file(lpctx, KEY_FILE, SSL_FILETYPE_PEM); assert(result > 0); result = SSL_CTX_check_private_key(lpctx); assert(result != 0); sockaddr_in addr; int sock = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0); sockaddr_in sin; int val = 1; memset((char *)&addr, 0, sizeof(addr)); addr.sin_addr.s_addr=INADDR_ANY; addr.sin_family = AF_INET; addr.sin_port = htons(PORT); setsockopt(sock, SOL_SOCKET, SO_REUSEADDR, &val, sizeof(val)); bind(sock, (sockaddr *) &sin, sizeof(sin)); result = listen(sock,5); std::cout << "listen returned " << result << std::endl; int new_sock = accept(sock, 0, 0); //client : SSL_library_init(); SSL_load_error_strings(); SSL_METHOD * lpmethod = SSLv3_method(); SSL_CTX * lpctx = SSL_CTX_new(lpmethod); int result = SSL_CTX_use_certificate_chain_file(lpctx, CERT_FILE); assert(result > 0); result = SSL_CTX_use_PrivateKey_file(lpctx, KEY_FILE, SSL_FILETYPE_PEM); assert(result > 0); result = SSL_CTX_check_private_key(lpctx); assert(result != 0); SSL_CTX_set_verify(lpctx, SSL_VERIFY_PEER, 0); sockaddr_in addr; memset((char *) &addr, 0, sizeof(addr)); addr.sin_addr.s_addr = inet_addr("127.0.0.1"); addr.sin_family = AF_INET; addr.sin_port = htons(8888); int sock = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, IPPROTO_TCP); assert(sock > 0); result = connect(sock, (struct sockaddr *)&addr, sizeof(addr)); From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 08:38:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FAB106566C for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971A28FC19 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:38:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (exit-01d.noisetor.net [173.254.216.69]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 022135A95 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:04:05 +0400 (MSK) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:38:26 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111117083825.GA5467@external.screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: realtime priority for subspawned process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:38:47 -0000 Hello. I want to have a realtime priority for the particular daemon process launched from X11 application. Daemon is: jackd and app is: audio/ardour. Previous ardour version(s) allowed me to go well with sox but no more for now. It tries to execute: jackd -d oss and the error is: cannot use real-time scheduling (FIFO at priority 10) [for thread 169873472, from thread 169873472] (1: Operation not permitted) It's ok though if i run the jack as a root. But I need not it like this for jack started from ardour. I tried to find a thing like 'realtime group': http://jackaudio.org/linux_rt_config but such a thing on a freebsd doesn't seem to exist. Or is it? I grepped for 'nice', 'rt', 'realtime' in login.conf but nothing like that so far. Thus I have to trick 'jackd' command in the path to use the sudo and run jackd with: nice(1), rtprio(1) or the user with the same uid but with nicer initial priority in a login.conf.db. Which of those 3 ways will work and will be the least evil? Am I missing something and there are more ways to get with ardour? Shall I file a gnats PR as the regular desktop user doesn't seem to be able to use the audio/ardour? Thank you. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 09:29:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA7C1065678 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remailer@dizum.com) Received: from smtp.zedz.net (outpost.zedz.net [194.109.206.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDE58FC08 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.zedz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D981AA4EB for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:10:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.zedz.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 69Vk1+TruRrq for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:10:19 +0100 (CET) Received: by smtp.zedz.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id E30EF1AA4F1; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:08:05 +0100 (CET) From: Nomen Nescio Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> Message-ID: <0ed6aef96e73b2a12620d088f4a3f6ce@dizum.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:08:05 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us [put down your coffee before reading] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:29:22 -0000 > If these rootless people get control of what goes through the root servers ^^^^^^^^ Thanks, I spewed coffee out of my nose when I read this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 11:09:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AE3106564A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5368FC1A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl11 with SMTP id l11so1314308yen.13 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:09:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.128.226 with SMTP id f62mr8029330yhi.104.1321528172263; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:09:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from papi.localnet ([177.98.48.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c10sm5474743yhj.2.2011.11.17.03.09.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:09:31 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:09:59 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.6.2; amd64; ; ) References: <0ed6aef96e73b2a12620d088f4a3f6ce@dizum.com> In-Reply-To: <0ed6aef96e73b2a12620d088f4a3f6ce@dizum.com> X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201111170809.59862.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us [put down your coffee before reading] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:09:34 -0000 On Thursday 17 November 2011 06:08:05 Nomen Nescio wrote: > > If these rootless people get control of what goes through the root > > servers > > ^^^^^^^^ > Thanks, I spewed coffee out of my nose when I read this. I hope the coffee wasn't too hot. I was just trying to convey meaning, not to be orthographically right. Just in case you're not a totally alienated individual, this means that I should not worry about the issue, right? By the way, I was at home, long past my working hours when I saw the article and posted the message. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 12:05:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0831065674 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:05:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9508FC13 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:05:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk5 with SMTP id k5so867266ggn.13 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:05:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.146.186.3 with SMTP id j3mr3944040yaf.2.1321531536433; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:05:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v5sm95554020anf.3.2011.11.17.04.05.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:05:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3Skh3w5fqPz2CG5m for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:05:32 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:05:32 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:05:37 -0000 On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:24:54 -0300 Mario Lobo articulated: > My apologies to all for this, specially to those who already know > about this and those who think too little of it. > > I am really worried about this: > > http://americancensorship.org/ > > If these rootless people get control of what goes through the root > servers, we will loose the last free medium of expression and info > exchange that is not owned by a corporation or anybody. > > I don't know if I should be worried or not, but if my worries are > founded and this comes to pass, as far as I can see, it will be the > end of this great tool as we know it today. > > There is a petition going on here: > > http://www.avaaz.org/en/save_the_internet/ > > There are a lot of Americans on this list that have a lot more power > than the rest of us to change this. A LOT of people from all over the > world is signing this petition. > > I hope at least some don't judge me to be over dramatic here but this > situation sounds very much so. > > I hope that most of you (if not all) replicates this and that I don't > get scalded for this post. > > I can only hope .... Sorry, but I totally disagree with you assessment of this bill. First of all, because I have not fully read it and secondly because I think it may in fact have merit. There are all ready too many scumbags who are illegally ripping off the works of others using a multitude of false pretenses. A developer, writer or what ever title you choose to assign to said individual has a right to protect his/her/their property. If you want to use a copyrighted or patented item you either get legal permission and pay a fee if required. Any attempt to use said item(s) without properly obtained the legal right to first is nothing more than common thrift and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The Internet was envisioned as a means of exchanging information, not pilfering it; although sadly enough it has rapidly developed into just that medium supported by socialists/fascists who would rather pilfer the works of another rather than obtaining the right to use said works. -- Jerry в™” jerry@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 12:28:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7250F106564A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:28:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3505B8FC19 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl11 with SMTP id l11so1439241yen.13 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:28:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.37.198 with SMTP id y46mr8972544yha.82.1321532910608; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:28:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from papi.localnet ([177.98.48.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r4sm4674624anl.5.2011.11.17.04.28.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:28:29 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:28:57 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.6.2; amd64; ; ) References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:28:31 -0000 On Thursday 17 November 2011 09:05:32 Jerry wrote: > Sorry, but I totally disagree with you assessment of this bill. First of > all, because I have not fully read it and secondly because I think it > may in fact have merit. > > There are all ready too many scumbags who are illegally ripping off the > works of others using a multitude of false pretenses. A developer, > writer or what ever title you choose to assign to said individual has a > right to protect his/her/their property. > > If you want to use a copyrighted or patented item you either get legal > permission and pay a fee if required. Any attempt to use said item(s) > without properly obtained the legal right to first is nothing more than > common thrift and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. > > The Internet was envisioned as a means of exchanging information, not > pilfering it; although sadly enough it has rapidly developed into just > that medium supported by socialists/fascists who would rather pilfer the > works of another rather than obtaining the right to use said works. My assessment is still being built so thanks for sharing your thoughts on this, Jerry The basis for my worries is the fact that historically, every time governments want to control everything, they begin with a step that seems honest and fair to everybody but soon enough, this is extented to whatever they think is right for them. By controlling the root servers, they could blacklist anything. Aren't there enough laws already to protect copyright? -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 12:55:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A381065673 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:55:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F8E8FC14 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl11 with SMTP id l11so1483281yen.13 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:55:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.197.103 with SMTP id s67mr9205362yhn.5.1321534505626; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:55:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k20sm95820826ann.15.2011.11.17.04.55.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:55:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3Skj9325NXz2CG5m for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:55:03 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:55:02 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:55:08 -0000 On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:28:57 -0300 Mario Lobo articulated: > Aren't there enough laws already to protect copyright? Laws to protect copyrighted or patented goods certainly exist. Unfortunately, they are poorly enforced. There is no universal "standard" for copyright infringement, etcetera. The best way to protect copyrighted material is stopping its pilferage at the source; ie, making every entity in the chain of its illegal usage responsible. Theft is theft no matter how a socialist/fascist tries to color it. -- Jerry вњЊ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 13:15:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34DE106566B for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodperson@rodperson.com) Received: from www6.pairlite.com (www6.pairlite.com [64.130.10.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D8C8FC1D for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (110-ccbh-135.ccbh.upmc.edu [128.147.110.135]) by www6.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B8BF7B803; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:00:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:00:04 -0500 From: Rod Person To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111117080004.00000179@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10cvs7 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jerry@seibercom.net Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:15:56 -0000 On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:55:02 -0500 Jerry wrote: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:28:57 -0300 > Mario Lobo articulated: > > > Aren't there enough laws already to protect copyright? > > Laws to protect copyrighted or patented goods certainly exist. > Unfortunately, they are poorly enforced. There is no universal > "standard" for copyright infringement, etcetera. The best way to > protect copyrighted material is stopping its pilferage at the source; > ie, making every entity in the chain of its illegal usage responsible. > > Theft is theft no matter how a socialist/fascist tries to color it. > So what you are saying then is that there should be roadblocks on ever street to make sure that all cars and drivers have proper documentation to make sure car theft does not occur? -- Rod From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 13:38:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE730106566C for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:38:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0628FC18 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywe9 with SMTP id 9so1572753ywe.13 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:38:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.77.232 with SMTP id d68mr9288023yhe.98.1321537134734; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:38:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c10sm5989129yhj.2.2011.11.17.05.38.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:38:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3Skk7Z13WYz2CG5m for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:38:50 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:38:49 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111117083849.288fa033@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20111117080004.00000179@unknown> References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> <20111117080004.00000179@unknown> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:38:56 -0000 On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:00:04 -0500 Rod Person articulated: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:55:02 -0500 > Jerry wrote: > > > On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:28:57 -0300 > > Mario Lobo articulated: > > > > > Aren't there enough laws already to protect copyright? > > > > Laws to protect copyrighted or patented goods certainly exist. > > Unfortunately, they are poorly enforced. There is no universal > > "standard" for copyright infringement, etcetera. The best way to > > protect copyrighted material is stopping its pilferage at the > > source; ie, making every entity in the chain of its illegal usage > > responsible. > > > > Theft is theft no matter how a socialist/fascist tries to color it. > > > > So what you are saying then is that there should be roadblocks on ever > street to make sure that all cars and drivers have proper > documentation to make sure car theft does not occur? Well, now we are into the "car" analogy which really doesn't scale well for this discussion. However, lets visit this concept. It is already required in the US and I would assume many other countries that a vehicle must process the proper tags and documentation to be operated on a public street. The operator of said vehicle must also process proper documentation that he/she is legally allowed to operate said vehicle. Neither of these two requirements is a handicap to the honest individual. Many states, including New York State now equip their police vehicles with devices that can scan the tags on vehicles as they are traveling and can ascertain whether the vehicle is properly insured and registered to be operated on the highway. This non intrusive method of law enforcement has resulted in hundreds of illegal vehicles being removed from the highway. At present, I know of no method to determine the legality of the driver without the police officer physically checking the drivers identification. It has been proposed that such devices be installed at regular intervals along federal highways in the US. As usual, the regular scumbags have instigated legal action to stall the use of such a system on a pseudo "invasion of privacy" concept. In essence, the only privacy that would be invaded would be those of the user of said illegally operated vehicle. So to answer you question, yes I believe in strict enforcement of laws and regulations. Only a felon has a reason to fear such enforcement. A non intrusive method of enforcement of said laws is a bonus. Only those who break laws have a reason to fear them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 13:41:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE061065672 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:41:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C2E8FC17 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:41:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio Connect 7.0.0 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:41:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: mikel king In-Reply-To: <20111117080004.00000179@unknown> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:41:30 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <33DA7AE1-FAFD-43CF-B64F-277CD721D88D@olivent.com> References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> <20111117080004.00000179@unknown> To: FreeBSD questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: jerry@seibercom.net, Rod Person Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:41:32 -0000 On Nov 17, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Rod Person wrote: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:55:02 -0500 > Jerry wrote: > >> On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:28:57 -0300 >> Mario Lobo articulated: >> >>> Aren't there enough laws already to protect copyright? >> >> Laws to protect copyrighted or patented goods certainly exist. >> Unfortunately, they are poorly enforced. There is no universal >> "standard" for copyright infringement, etcetera. The best way to >> protect copyrighted material is stopping its pilferage at the source; >> ie, making every entity in the chain of its illegal usage responsible. >> >> Theft is theft no matter how a socialist/fascist tries to color it. >> > > So what you are saying then is that there should be roadblocks on ever > street to make sure that all cars and drivers have proper documentation > to make sure car theft does not occur? > > > -- > Rod An interesting perspective of SOPA. Worth watching to the end. http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 13:54:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE54106566C for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:54:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A698FC0A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [80.217.64.49] (c80-217-64-49.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.64.49]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id pAHDsiV2035501; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:54:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <4EC51224.2050306@bananmonarki.se> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:54:44 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110202 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mario Lobo References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> In-Reply-To: <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:54:50 -0000 On 2011-11-17 13:28, Mario Lobo wrote: > > Aren't there enough laws already to protect copyright? > There is and they need to be changed radically to reflect peoples actions. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 14:02:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9E9106564A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodperson@rodperson.com) Received: from www6.pairlite.com (www6.pairlite.com [64.130.10.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E02B8FC14 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:02:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (110-ccbh-135.ccbh.upmc.edu [128.147.110.135]) by www6.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 889FCB803; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:02:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:02:39 -0500 From: Rod Person To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111117090239.00001a97@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20111117083849.288fa033@scorpio> References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> <20111117080004.00000179@unknown> <20111117083849.288fa033@scorpio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10cvs7 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jerry@seibercom.net Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:02:41 -0000 On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:38:49 -0500 Jerry wrote: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:00:04 -0500 > Rod Person articulated: > > > > Theft is theft no matter how a socialist/fascist tries to color > > > it. > > > > > > > So what you are saying then is that there should be roadblocks on > > ever street to make sure that all cars and drivers have proper > > documentation to make sure car theft does not occur? > > Well, now we are into the "car" analogy which really doesn't scale Sorry, it was suppose to be more of a right of free travel analogy, than a car thing. Or possibly analogy of traffic follow and bottlenecks created by the stopping and checking of every vehicle. > well for this discussion. However, lets visit this concept. It is > already required in the US and I would assume many other countries > that a vehicle must process the proper tags and documentation to be > operated on a public street. The operator of said vehicle must also > process proper documentation that he/she is legally allowed to > operate said vehicle. Neither of these two requirements is a handicap > to the honest individual. Many states, including New York State now > equip their police vehicles with devices that can scan the tags on > vehicles as they are traveling and can ascertain whether the vehicle > is properly insured and registered to be operated on the highway. > This non intrusive method of law enforcement has resulted in hundreds > of illegal vehicles being removed from the highway. At present, I > know of no method to determine the legality of the driver without the > police officer physically checking the drivers identification. It has > been proposed that such devices be installed at regular intervals > along federal highways in the US. As usual, the regular scumbags have > instigated legal action to stall the use of such a system on a pseudo > "invasion of privacy" concept. In essence, the only privacy that would > be invaded would be those of the user of said illegally operated > vehicle. > > So to answer you question, yes I believe in strict enforcement of laws > and regulations. Only a felon has a reason to fear such enforcement. A > non intrusive method of enforcement of said laws is a bonus. > > Only those who break laws have a reason to fear them. I do agree in the enforcement of existing laws. But I don't see the as non intrusive. If your going to check all packages coming through the root servers then there is going to be intrusion into your privacy. Otherwise how would they check you allowed to use the content? What happens in a case where someone has hacked you network and is using it to transfer the their stolen content, such as in the mp3 downloading cases? Then once a new law is on the books, the officials find ways to use the laws in way the were not intended as in the case of the "Patriot Act" were it's use is over 90 some percent of the time has nothing to to with terrorism. As someone that has been stop because of how I look and where I live, I find the 'only those that break laws have reason to fear them argument' extremely naive. -- Rod From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 14:46:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A3B1065672 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:46:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.spinella@rfc1925.net) Received: from mercy.rfc1925.net (host8-102-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it [87.12.102.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B4F8FC1C for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mercy.rfc1925.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercy.rfc1925.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4BE22CEC5A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:46:05 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rfc1925.net Received: from mercy.rfc1925.net ([127.0.0.1]) by mercy.rfc1925.net (mercy.rfc1925.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jECdnbzfL81x for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:46:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from LSD25.communicationvalley.it (unknown [194.246.127.224]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: a.spinella@rfc1925.net) by mercy.rfc1925.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9332B2CEC47 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:46:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EC51E4F.4090508@rfc1925.net> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:46:39 +0100 From: Alessandro Spinella User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111005 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:46:09 -0000 On 11/17/11 13:05, Jerry wrote: > > .... First of all, because I have not fully read it....... it mean that you does *not* agree because *your* partial-ignorance? and later you state <> is there any better arguments to support that point of view? if not : *that* felon will subscribe petition. Alessandro From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 14:58:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B561065672 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:58:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stas@legolasweb.nl) Received: from smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7128FC1D for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.139] (helo=smtp8.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RR2rb-0003IR-E4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:22:51 +0100 Received: from 5357e90f.cm-6-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([83.87.233.15] helo=homey.local) by smtp8.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RR2rb-0007ZH-48 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:22:51 +0100 Received: from homey.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homey.local (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pAHEMsFt049925 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:22:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stas@homey.local) Received: (from stas@localhost) by homey.local (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id pAHEMsBi049924 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:22:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stas) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:22:54 +0100 From: Stas Verberkt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111117142254.GA49527@homey.local> References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> <20111117080004.00000179@unknown> <20111117083849.288fa033@scorpio> <20111117090239.00001a97@unknown> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111117090239.00001a97@unknown> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Ziggo-spambar: / X-Ziggo-spamscore: -0.8 Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:58:16 -0000 --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 09:02:39AM -0500, Rod Person wrote: > As someone that has been stop because of how I look and where I live, I > find the 'only those that break laws have reason to fear them argument' > extremely naive. It is not just naive, it is not an argument. If we would pass anything under the idea of "nothing to hide", we could just drop all safeguards in, for example, the remote search legislation (hacking of suspects by the police). Or hand out search warrants for a complete neighbourhoud of its probable that there are stolen goods in the area. Its merely a comment, and I suppose its naive. Certainly in the light that privacy is about "being able to develop your personality freely" and thus does just concern what would happen if a country were to get a dictator, but also with people feeling free enough to develop their own ideas on society. Nevertheless, under European law, such legislation would probably not pass as it is not a "proportional" impact on "privacy" (a human right, article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights) and thus not "necessary in a democratic society". However, I'm not a law student and also not from the USA, so I don't know how this would work out in practice at the other side of the ocean.=20 Kind regards --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOxRi9AAoJEKBMSeL04vuLSyQP/2RQMOkz0v/95LW0mKUusT5/ dNTHRZL+Haf+ErX/E80z6Kj4uLQRDEI4NzUdPjc40txyOSmrJfyuhReJO2hm0atP i2ECR4qkl1+y+aZACQ9aDmY6oQYUnc54O5vLxX1sM0G01kYS/rWcfF1tEP0xGTHH j0iSGvuf9+TipZC48q++c2ST2hquUqrDRTvnWl0l4U14PDX/CJG5CDGZQnIav+mr J1wASujCNFe04R4mlVh1Es1QbSpkTOYM5+gwoJU00qyvEGpdMGF5LEq5/dkjFT/X 8G8rrUzBjsUgni+dmZzfWbF8bxYKNh66xez2nEZN4+IUcP5bc6YhLONRr1T6+mfr uP0A5CHKKEiF/vFIxn67uGRNXrl69mbyo17Mgu9cX8tY9hMOIM5dflQNoFv6QDjX dUphB/NLO/cr4RjsD6zT8EqPHj2IOrB8r5MZ238A/ZP3cUyWhYgrM1LkMlN2xnOH HT29RCVOHdWCffZSs0roep5OQFGD1LSXtUsjKeWOZgOnJMucF4IxuJGTg8p3VXo8 Y0o/gmJP4Tk7G1AM/OEYv+ztAIDvqJropdjSDn2BBWe02terncKbGDC+p/q3zZbv K5HQJzWv8LuG2GJAtkh3hNy9OfGYC8VVfBdDsyYGHKxhc8rXDuKgnPuM2PTTxugj x9hEmU9uRdD8m3/PY734 =fwGB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 15:17:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB391065673 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:17:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AB58FC18 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 10432939; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:17:10 -0500 Received: from [192.168.43.232] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 10432937 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:16:50 -0500 Message-ID: <4EC51752.6090907@radel.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:16:50 -0500 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> <20111117080004.00000179@unknown> <20111117083849.288fa033@scorpio> <20111117090239.00001a97@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20111117090239.00001a97@unknown> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:17:11 -0000 On 11/17/11 9:02 AM, Rod Person wrote: > > As someone that has been stop because of how I look and where I live, I > find the 'only those that break laws have reason to fear them argument' > extremely naive. > To put it mildly. Before you know it, records of what you've been up to on the Internet will be discoverable in your divorce proceedings when your soon-to-be-ex-spouse decides to go for the nuclear option. Now, not only will you have to pull the battery from your cell phone and pay cash at all toll plazas, but you'll have to hit a different "Internet Cafe" and pay cash every time you surf the web..... --Jon Radel jon@radel.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 15:25:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF6F1065676 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:25:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rodperson@rodperson.com) Received: from www6.pairlite.com (www6.pairlite.com [64.130.10.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172B68FC1D for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (110-ccbh-135.ccbh.upmc.edu [128.147.110.135]) by www6.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 508DDB803; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:25:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:25:02 -0500 From: Rod Person To: Jon Radel Message-ID: <20111117102502.000063f9@unknown> In-Reply-To: <4EC51752.6090907@radel.com> References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> <20111117080004.00000179@unknown> <20111117083849.288fa033@scorpio> <20111117090239.00001a97@unknown> <4EC51752.6090907@radel.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10cvs7 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:25:04 -0000 On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:16:50 -0500 Jon Radel wrote: >=20 > On 11/17/11 9:02 AM, Rod Person wrote: >=20 > > > > As someone that has been stop because of how I look and where I > > live, I find the 'only those that break laws have reason to fear > > them argument' extremely naive. > > >=20 > To put it mildly. Before you know it, records of what you've been up > to on the Internet will be discoverable in your divorce proceedings > when your soon-to-be-ex-spouse decides to go for the nuclear option. > Now, not only will you have to pull the battery from your cell phone > and pay cash at all toll plazas, but you'll have to hit a different > "Internet Cafe" and pay cash every time you surf the web..... >=20 I thought this had already been done? Luckily, I don't have a cell phone - more so because I hate phones, for those wondering. :) --=20 Rod The club is like groceries, and I jus bag a bi@$&! =AD Santonio Holmes on the Twitter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 15:33:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5FD1065678 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:33:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9B88FC1B for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RR3xb-0000za-Pv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:33:07 +0100 Received: from c75-111-238-176.sangcmtk01.tx.dh.suddenlink.net ([75.111.238.176]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:33:07 +0100 Received: from jkotrla by c75-111-238-176.sangcmtk01.tx.dh.suddenlink.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:33:07 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: John Kotrla Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:32:31 -0600 Lines: 17 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c75-111-238-176.sangcmtk01.tx.dh.suddenlink.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111108 Thunderbird/8.0 Subject: re0: PHY read failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:33:09 -0000 this message is appearing hundreds of times. I don't use the device, so its more of a neatness thing but it also makes it difficult to use logs when this error pops up every single second. It doesn't begin at boot, usually after a few hours. But if I do plug it into my router instead of using WiFi, it connects and works. re0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x3656103c chip=0x813610ec rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' device = 'Realtek 10/100/1000 PCI-E NIC Family all in one NDIS Driver v5.728.0604.2009 06/04/2009 (Rtl8023)' class = network subclass = ethernet any suggestions? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 15:39:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28FD106566B for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nelson4088@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18D88FC12 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:39:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iakl21 with SMTP id l21so3256832iak.13 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:39:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VbL3k20svKTxcCmauU6johgFuLTO6K/a19TB80OyDaw=; b=CSG4LH4472XxuREolhtFdQbqp/3IEyrjrx1zcmfiOPVM7UhT1B+JDHpXoJCXlc8BHf pyGKhY5luJRFAncvrBSf6Hu3M8VkBrWak/GvqZXjuLHqRJVcUwKHopXnlhA3xTM1V2aV H4lsCgXwVlbEIwT2d4xgZL4oolABowIK+vGbA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.163.200 with SMTP id d8mr42896630icy.41.1321542518939; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.153.201 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:08:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.153.201 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:08:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:08:36 +0800 Message-ID: From: Nelson Leung To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Bad sector in journal area and the .journal device disappeared X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:39:29 -0000 Hi all, I've a FreeBSD 8.2-release amd64 running with a few harddisks (3 in UFS+journal, and 3 in zraid-3) for NAS. Yesterday I found the machine was having problems in I/O with multiple harddisks, so I shut it down but it failed to sync some of the harddisk. fsck worked except for 1 UFS+journal disk( WD Green 2T, named ad16) because the corresponding journal provider (ad16p1.journal) is not found. dmesg shows FreeBSD failed to read during boot: ad16: FAILURE - READ_DMA48 status=51 error=49 LBA=3907029134 Is it because there is a bad sector in the journal and FreeBSD failed to load the journal provider? Is there any tool to recover the journal? In the worst case I may just mount the data without the journal (ad16p1) and copy the data into the zpool. Do I still need to run a fsck on the data (ad16p1) in this case for data consistency? Any help/ suggestions are appreciated. Thank you. Nelson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 16:02:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B2B106564A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8708FC17 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:02:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl11 with SMTP id l11so1832572yen.13 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:02:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.145.165 with SMTP id p25mr10457392yhj.94.1321545590046; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:59:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from papi.localnet ([177.98.48.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w68sm6541597yhe.14.2011.11.17.07.59.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:59:49 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:00:17 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.6.2; amd64; ; ) References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117083849.288fa033@scorpio> <20111117090239.00001a97@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20111117090239.00001a97@unknown> X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201111171300.17046.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:02:31 -0000 On Thursday 17 November 2011 11:02:39 Rod Person wrote: > Then once a new law is on the books, the officials find ways to use the > laws in way the were not intended as in the case of the "Patriot Act" > were it's use is over 90 some percent of the time has nothing to to > with terrorism. > This is EXACTLY what I meant by "worry" in my original post. Thanks for putting it into words. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 17:10:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED431065672 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy8.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1BBAD8FC08 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:10:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7986 invoked by uid 0); 17 Nov 2011 17:10:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy8.bluehost.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2011 17:10:00 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=F7XTYciSxysVtzAAvEY71VgKjmcvdHQkO1GnKl7HuOc=; b=LUnETPJZElhQQuuWgTty/cbbuhWd01ue2PT1Cr0RynEvjhAaoaJicsRxF0/LpseyA4T6kf61a+IDGoAE3r9D6BGbDHmjpzsQgB/HCPjei/2IHviBChFuq+/br74dKP75; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RR5TL-0000RD-GY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:10:00 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:07:17 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:07:17 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111117170717.GA44779@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <0ed6aef96e73b2a12620d088f4a3f6ce@dizum.com> <201111170809.59862.lobo@bsd.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9amGYk9869ThD9tj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201111170809.59862.lobo@bsd.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us [put down your coffee before reading] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:10:01 -0000 --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 08:09:59AM -0300, Mario Lobo wrote: > On Thursday 17 November 2011 06:08:05 Nomen Nescio wrote: > >=20 > > Thanks, I spewed coffee out of my nose when I read this. >=20 > Just in case you're not a totally alienated individual, this means that I= =20 > should not worry about the issue, right? I think it means he found the wordplay humorous. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk7FP0UACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKV+3wCgwF+L/smz2fVlmfzfk2ZFcBxC PvQAoNrGxXyZcBI+NPyqUA6vvAEkdc5m =r2mJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9amGYk9869ThD9tj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 17:18:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF3D1065672 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:18:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150DC8FC0C for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id pAHHENaG074521 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:14:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id pAHHENfh074520 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:14:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:14:23 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111117171423.GB74447@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:18:12 -0000 On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 07:55:02AM -0500, Jerry wrote: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:28:57 -0300 > Mario Lobo articulated: > > > Aren't there enough laws already to protect copyright? > > Laws to protect copyrighted or patented goods certainly exist. > Unfortunately, they are poorly enforced. There is no universal > "standard" for copyright infringement, etcetera. The best way to > protect copyrighted material is stopping its pilferage at the source; > ie, making every entity in the chain of its illegal usage responsible. So, implementing yet another law that will be poorly enforced will help the problem??? This thing is a lawyers' bonanza, not a protection for content creators. Let the feeding frenzy begin - ???. ////jerry > > Theft is theft no matter how a socialist/fascist tries to color it. > > -- > Jerry ??? > jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net > > Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. > Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 17:20:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9886C106566B for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:20:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 585DE8FC15 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:20:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7486 invoked by uid 0); 17 Nov 2011 17:20:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2011 17:20:33 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=hVhTtCXNr+9NyORRjT4HRL5GQq/yWFXupWoETzR+XtE=; b=WSqXbtZuNJRMYdDG4l0tx4ySPRSvjpaT2abJk5r9BTNNdNB6FIrqXnK4MpKwqRf9BZXQhHabCxC9pjnKbWXpPdLtSX7tcKCQvOdG+AoBY9YrQeDeOjtqKoz+BnvjzF6S; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RR5dX-0006eo-Vi for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:20:33 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:17:50 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:17:50 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111117171750.GB44779@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="z6Eq5LdranGa6ru8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:20:33 -0000 --z6Eq5LdranGa6ru8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 07:55:02AM -0500, Jerry wrote: >=20 > Laws to protect copyrighted or patented goods certainly exist. > Unfortunately, they are poorly enforced. There is no universal > "standard" for copyright infringement, etcetera. The best way to > protect copyrighted material is stopping its pilferage at the source; > ie, making every entity in the chain of its illegal usage responsible. If there are problems with enforcement, creating new laws will not magically fix that. What SOPA and PIPA do is essentially let people with intrinsic commercial conflicts of interest to bypass the checks and balances of the legal system to have competitors and innocent bystanders shut down without due process or actual proof of wrongdoing. These aren't just poorly worded bills; they're poorly conceived bills. MasterCard opposes the bill because its executives and legal staff believe it will legally force them to cut off millions or billions in revenue generated by perfectly legal operations every year. Google opposes the bill because its executives, engineers, and legal staff believe it will require them to *spend* millions or billions every year in dealing with enforcement of spurious claims by parties with no actionable cause to make their claims. >=20 > Theft is theft no matter how a socialist/fascist tries to color it. Copyright infringement is copyright infringement -- and not theft -- no matter how hyperbolic your choice of phrasing. Castigate people for the unlawful act of copyright infringement if you want to, but please do not conflate two separate bodies of law by equating one illegal act with another. This abuse of terms is largely the fault of media conglomerates and their lobbying organizations (e.g. the RIAA and MPAA). The more you repeat these abuses of terminology, the more they are emboldened; I think it was the RIAA representative at the SOPA hearing yesterday who literally equated copyright infringement with *murder*. Don't be like that jackass. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --z6Eq5LdranGa6ru8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk7FQb4ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVVnACg5b3u7ZYOEm07LvjJIcORuotg 6EcAn3O9jksLM2Mxp/23/FHoh9vL2VEc =UmyN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --z6Eq5LdranGa6ru8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 17:29:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF91106564A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81858FC0C for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:29:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio Connect 7.0.0 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:29:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: mikel king In-Reply-To: <20111117171750.GB44779@guilt.hydra> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:29:13 -0500 Message-Id: References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> <20111117171750.GB44779@guilt.hydra> To: Chad Perrin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:29:17 -0000 On Nov 17, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 07:55:02AM -0500, Jerry wrote: >> >> Laws to protect copyrighted or patented goods certainly exist. >> Unfortunately, they are poorly enforced. There is no universal >> "standard" for copyright infringement, etcetera. The best way to >> protect copyrighted material is stopping its pilferage at the source; >> ie, making every entity in the chain of its illegal usage responsible. > > If there are problems with enforcement, creating new laws will not > magically fix that. > > What SOPA and PIPA do is essentially let people with intrinsic commercial > conflicts of interest to bypass the checks and balances of the legal > system to have competitors and innocent bystanders shut down without due > process or actual proof of wrongdoing. These aren't just poorly worded > bills; they're poorly conceived bills. MasterCard opposes the bill > because its executives and legal staff believe it will legally force them > to cut off millions or billions in revenue generated by perfectly legal > operations every year. Google opposes the bill because its executives, > engineers, and legal staff believe it will require them to *spend* > millions or billions every year in dealing with enforcement of spurious > claims by parties with no actionable cause to make their claims. > > >> >> Theft is theft no matter how a socialist/fascist tries to color it. > > Copyright infringement is copyright infringement -- and not theft -- no > matter how hyperbolic your choice of phrasing. Castigate people for the > unlawful act of copyright infringement if you want to, but please do not > conflate two separate bodies of law by equating one illegal act with > another. This abuse of terms is largely the fault of media conglomerates > and their lobbying organizations (e.g. the RIAA and MPAA). The more you > repeat these abuses of terminology, the more they are emboldened; I think > it was the RIAA representative at the SOPA hearing yesterday who > literally equated copyright infringement with *murder*. > > Don't be like that jackass. > > -- > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Thanks for sharing your perspective. I could not agree more. Cheers, Mikel King BSD News Network http://bsdnews.net skype: mikel.king http://twitter.com/mikelking From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 17:56:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BCA1065677 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:56:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458E78FC19 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywe9 with SMTP id 9so2066540ywe.13 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:56:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.9.36 with SMTP id 24mr11487188yhs.62.1321552569881; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:56:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 33sm82314206ano.1.2011.11.17.09.56.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:56:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3SkqrQ6r6cz2CG5m for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:56:06 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:56:06 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111117125606.1aaf3e79@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20111117171750.GB44779@guilt.hydra> References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> <20111117171750.GB44779@guilt.hydra> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:56:11 -0000 On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:17:50 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated: > Copyright infringement is copyright infringement -- and not theft -- > no matter how hyperbolic your choice of phrasing. Castigate people > for the unlawful act of copyright infringement if you want to, but > please do not conflate two separate bodies of law by equating one > illegal act with another. This abuse of terms is largely the fault > of media conglomerates and their lobbying organizations (e.g. the > RIAA and MPAA). The more you repeat these abuses of terminology, the > more they are emboldened; I think it was the RIAA representative at > the SOPA hearing yesterday who literally equated copyright > infringement with *murder*. > > Don't be like that jackass. Yes, you must be one of those scumbags that pilfers the property or intellectual rights of others sans payment or having acquired the legal rights to the property and then tries to hide behind some pseudo Divine-Right bullshit. You can fool yourself into believing that running someone over with a car and killing them is Vehicular manslaughter and not 1st degree murder; however, that does not change one iota the simple fact that the victim is dead. You can try an justify your illegal actions all you want; criminal attorneys make a living out of doing it in court everyday of the week. It amazes me how scumbags constantly attempt to justify their illegal actions. The simple fact is that a thief is a thief no matter how you try and sugar coat it. Now go back and play your pirated music, etcetera. I am sure you have all ready justified that practice to yourself. -- Jerry в™” Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Ralph Waldo Emerson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 18:01:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D702106564A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward17.mail.yandex.net (forward17.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1402::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6AF8FC16 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:01:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp16.mail.yandex.net (smtp16.mail.yandex.net [95.108.252.16]) by forward17.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 463E01064631 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 22:01:08 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1321552868; bh=Sq0uIyHLCL0siab/TSReN9w6vW+ykPwswPFUyOElwzE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bX4cwcEB7ORqvxmAQ5iyekJdCxvYecEuVdT10Kfl6aWgqRJg6/EC/chxhBcNlM1b9 Ck5a2pwmqtBfyV/3SMiiRuHjwBxm/V1+vaDKozte0wrKUB6NP8ByHdf1EhC2gC+Hz7 o1m9xydydDa3r9Z+y9lp30aMYiwF9yX+t+RMIH0k= Received: from smtp16.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp16.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 246B06A00F1 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 22:01:08 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1321552868; bh=Sq0uIyHLCL0siab/TSReN9w6vW+ykPwswPFUyOElwzE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bX4cwcEB7ORqvxmAQ5iyekJdCxvYecEuVdT10Kfl6aWgqRJg6/EC/chxhBcNlM1b9 Ck5a2pwmqtBfyV/3SMiiRuHjwBxm/V1+vaDKozte0wrKUB6NP8ByHdf1EhC2gC+Hz7 o1m9xydydDa3r9Z+y9lp30aMYiwF9yX+t+RMIH0k= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp16.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id 17n4FJuM-17nqecWm; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 22:01:07 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:00:52 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <255829341.20111117200052@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: process interrupts by multiply CPUs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:01:10 -0000 Hi Can I allow to process interrupts from re0 by multiples CPUs I get one CPU overload while other idle last pid: 14902; load averages: 1.92, 2.12, 1.96 up 0+17:47:31 19:59:04 226 processes: 12 running, 197 sleeping, 17 waiting CPU 0: 0.6% user, 0.0% nice, 1.2% system, 88.3% interrupt, 9.8% idle CPU 1: 1.8% user, 0.0% nice, 29.4% system, 0.0% interrupt, 68.7% idle CPU 2: 3.7% user, 0.0% nice, 30.7% system, 0.0% interrupt, 65.6% idle CPU 3: 3.1% user, 0.0% nice, 25.8% system, 0.0% interrupt, 71.2% idle Mem: 264M Active, 1641M Inact, 272M Wired, 832K Cache, 112M Buf, 1721M Free Swap: 4096M Total, 4096M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 12 root -92 - 0K 152K CPU0 0 354:30 96.78% {irq256: re0} 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K RUN 1 929:16 77.83% {idle: cpu1} 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K RUN 3 922:41 72.95% {idle: cpu3} 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K RUN 2 904:02 71.63% {idle: cpu2} 13 root -16 - 0K 32K CPU3 1 71:11 18.65% {ng_queue1} 13 root -16 - 0K 32K RUN 1 71:10 18.36% {ng_queue3} 13 root -16 - 0K 32K RUN 3 71:18 17.63% {ng_queue0} 13 root -16 - 0K 32K RUN 1 71:11 17.14% {ng_queue2} 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K RUN 0 682:25 10.55% {idle: cpu0} 55709 root 20 0 13408K 5840K select 2 15:50 1.71% snmpd 14902 cacti 33 0 11960K 3480K select 1 0:00 1.12% snmpget 14864 cacti 46 0 11116K 2836K piperd 3 0:00 1.12% perl5.10.1 14867 root 46 0 9728K 1956K select 3 0:00 1.12% sudo I have try to tune system how described on this: https://calomel.org/network_performance.html but that did not help. Can you advice me something, to allow process interrupts by all CPUs? -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 18:57:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E907106566B for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (cruwe.de [188.40.164.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB818FC0C for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruwe.de (unknown [127.0.0.4]) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FEF429AB1 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by cruwe.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 4C37B29AAF; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:57:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail.cruwe.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from dijkstra (p5B37AA26.dip.t-dialin.net [91.55.170.38]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EB7C829AAC for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:57:03 +0100 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111117215703.5ec3c6cc@dijkstra> In-Reply-To: <20111117125606.1aaf3e79@scorpio> References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> <20111117171750.GB44779@guilt.hydra> <20111117125606.1aaf3e79@scorpio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV on mail.cruwe.de using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:57:14 -0000 On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:56:06 -0500 Jerry wrote: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:17:50 -0700 > Chad Perrin articulated: > > > Copyright infringement is copyright infringement -- and not theft -- > > no matter how hyperbolic your choice of phrasing. Castigate people > > for the unlawful act of copyright infringement if you want to, but > > please do not conflate two separate bodies of law by equating one > > illegal act with another. This abuse of terms is largely the fault > > of media conglomerates and their lobbying organizations (e.g. the > > RIAA and MPAA). The more you repeat these abuses of terminology, > > the more they are emboldened; I think it was the RIAA > > representative at the SOPA hearing yesterday who literally equated > > copyright infringement with *murder*. > > > > Don't be like that jackass. > > Yes, you must be one of those scumbags that pilfers the property or > intellectual rights of others sans payment or having acquired the > legal rights to the property and then tries to hide behind some pseudo > Divine-Right bullshit. You can fool yourself into believing that > running someone over with a car and killing them is Vehicular > manslaughter and not 1st degree murder; however, that does not change > one iota the simple fact that the victim is dead. > > You can try an justify your illegal actions all you want; criminal > attorneys make a living out of doing it in court everyday of the week. > It amazes me how scumbags constantly attempt to justify their illegal > actions. The simple fact is that a thief is a thief no matter how you > try and sugar coat it. > > Now go back and play your pirated music, etcetera. I am sure you have > all ready justified that practice to yourself. > For christ's sake stop your crusade, please. I do not know if and if, who hurt you, but that issue is certainly not adressed by accusing possibly, or better, almost certainly, innocent people of illegal and/or criminal actions. Civil liberties are a protection of citizens against their state. Should you entertain the notion that states are by their very nature trustworthy, have a look at some failed states in the recent eighty years. States are represented by human beings who do, more often than one would wish to, succumb to the temptation of crime themselves. Should you require something more illustrating, viz., not theoretical, I fullheartedly suggest reading a most outstanding author, Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn, Archipelago Gulag. You might develop a more moderate approach to that "libertinistic scumbags" who demand protection from legislation which is increasingly becoming a loose cannon on the deck. BTW, using increasingly foul language against arguments people of different persuasion make is a telltale sign ... of Chekism. Feel free to stand for your point and oppose other's, but do that reasonably and respectfully. -- Christopher J. Ruwe TZ GMT + 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 19:13:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF361106564A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:13:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stas@legolasweb.nl) Received: from smtpq1.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D20C8FC19 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:13:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.150] (helo=smtp18.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RR6UY-00031F-WA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:15:18 +0100 Received: from 5357e90f.cm-6-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([83.87.233.15] helo=homey.local) by smtp18.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RR6UX-0001JV-OH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:15:17 +0100 Received: from homey.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homey.local (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pAHIFKqr053184 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:15:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stas@homey.local) Received: (from stas@localhost) by homey.local (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id pAHIFKTO053183 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:15:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stas) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:15:20 +0100 From: Stas Verberkt To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111117181520.GA52913@homey.local> References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> <20111117171750.GB44779@guilt.hydra> <20111117125606.1aaf3e79@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111117125606.1aaf3e79@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1RR6UX-0001JV-OH X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-4.718, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, PROLO_TRUST_RDNS -3.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98, SPF_SOFTFAIL 0.20) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: stas@legolasweb.nl X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:13:20 -0000 --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:56:06PM -0500, Jerry wrote: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:17:50 -0700 > Chad Perrin articulated: >=20 > > Copyright infringement is copyright infringement -- and not theft -- > > no matter how hyperbolic your choice of phrasing. Castigate people > > for the unlawful act of copyright infringement if you want to, but > > please do not conflate two separate bodies of law by equating one > > illegal act with another. This abuse of terms is largely the fault > > of media conglomerates and their lobbying organizations (e.g. the > > RIAA and MPAA). The more you repeat these abuses of terminology, the > > more they are emboldened; I think it was the RIAA representative at > > the SOPA hearing yesterday who literally equated copyright > > infringement with *murder*. > >=20 > > Don't be like that jackass. >=20 > Yes, you must be one of those scumbags that pilfers the property or > intellectual rights of others sans payment or having acquired the > legal rights to the property and then tries to hide behind some pseudo > Divine-Right bullshit. You can fool yourself into believing that running > someone over with a car and killing them is Vehicular manslaughter and > not 1st degree murder; however, that does not change one iota the simple > fact that the victim is dead. Well, if the driver was not planning to kill the victim, you're not fooling yourself. The driver may find a hard time living with himself, but will not be a murderer. For example, if the victim was attempting suicide, by jumping right in front of the car at the very last moment, it wouldn't even be manslaughter. The point is, these things are much more complex than "bad" and "good". You should not oversimplificate criminal law, but carefully take into account every detail of every situati= on. >=20 > You can try an justify your illegal actions all you want; criminal > attorneys make a living out of doing it in court everyday of the week. > It amazes me how scumbags constantly attempt to justify their illegal > actions. The simple fact is that a thief is a thief no matter how you > try and sugar coat it. First, music is a licensing thing. So, you do not "buy" music, you buy a license to play it. To illustrate this, if you bought a CD with a song, in the Netherlands you are allowed to download this song from the Internet, as you own the license to listen to it for private use. (As a matter of fact, downloading is legal in the Netherlands, and we pay taxes to the entertainment industry, but that is a whole different story, with it's own bad and good features. Also, distributing, thus, uploading is illegal.) The main problem is that there are no proportional solutions to the downloa= ding problem. This means that we may, for example, start filtering all online traffic, but this would be such an impact on the privacy (and thus human rights/democracy), that this is not an option. Therefore, solutions will have to rely on a factor of trust. Furthermore, we know in no way what illegal activities the former poster has been doing. Just pointing out the difference between copyright infringement and thieving (which is important to note) does not make you a so-called "scumbag". Also, be happy there are attorneys, every side of the argument has the right to be heard and every single citizen should be able to access the rule of law.=20 Kind regards --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOxU84AAoJEKBMSeL04vuLffkP/AxhD9p7TAyGo9n3EhYcLXyi SL3f88OCMRBlKt5sMaT15FDyWEQpBKvjeZDvATbB8SdruHQeSYnfjvS1Hy21eItn gJqwrf1lCF5a1az2DGwb5lqDk4x8m/NGlZyzCcxyGFmKWlRV8nNUMXlkX+o1gKmH o7JtXjnHZpw4tZpq/nbYPohsBe9nyHqqmDu9RUh8k+c1/LV6EgW/kTrNpq9zjWNC xg5/tnrBckRotXaFNb+IkRx13dkxodQ7x9JyC1W+1tdX7WHlgmj2ipeGMG0MrxJp pBP5AT1j7OgwFFCpUcM1b02tjZigRzGocP4lP/5AgfCctY1+VUw5J9drC+lLcOMe QKmOKL/4ZBVKkFhoDjvRqjDzchGhtQt+6S5a5RxjjILKkrp+2RRRq3Y6flh1N+gM +LLMZOv1NRGk1cGVuu/hxOuiim0ZqWggCgk4RaFR1ZnNRNk9yeNvpAitd0kZseJ1 t60giofHXUP3jHrwLM2sEzFchB+W0KrrOk902j+AwwFeiMGvfuZPpLqLZnJSL9aT ai4sCEsA8J1BGKlFyWdlstdaS+mwVFxxACVK+pz/qjaKXVjy+4ujpBCmNIhNxw+p TkWnI/N0SY0t5apKfKUxe0n5PvCSoCHT8U4qHN5BA+ABR/NyZ/YIDufXvAbGXbVh kYaLuFXGIQX/eQhMgQ+h =2OJ1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 19:44:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3F41065672 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy5-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy5.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE9E68FC12 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15808 invoked by uid 0); 17 Nov 2011 19:44:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2011 19:44:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=DnqmGOO4dV42WUaZIvO+7Cm40sGBHXvHasNbCb2YrSI=; b=kp803yNCh4ICRjVU1qwwBsfAnmcS6bpxcRJHAPYf6IhuQ4dBX+gHTGnMv9xw2ZG6klDmmHzJ1Wjr+ZLs1l8DG2jakEgalNND2TKJp1HroJo7rIC/GCkxkeAcmzggL8iR; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RR7sv-0004a4-E5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:44:34 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:41:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:41:51 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111117194151.GA45282@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> <20111117171750.GB44779@guilt.hydra> <20111117125606.1aaf3e79@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="17pEHd4RhPHOinZp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111117125606.1aaf3e79@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:44:35 -0000 --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:56:06PM -0500, Jerry wrote: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:17:50 -0700 > Chad Perrin articulated: >=20 > > Copyright infringement is copyright infringement -- and not theft -- > > no matter how hyperbolic your choice of phrasing. Castigate people > > for the unlawful act of copyright infringement if you want to, but > > please do not conflate two separate bodies of law by equating one > > illegal act with another. This abuse of terms is largely the fault > > of media conglomerates and their lobbying organizations (e.g. the > > RIAA and MPAA). The more you repeat these abuses of terminology, the > > more they are emboldened; I think it was the RIAA representative at > > the SOPA hearing yesterday who literally equated copyright > > infringement with *murder*. > >=20 > > Don't be like that jackass. >=20 > Yes, you must be one of those scumbags that pilfers the property or > intellectual rights of others sans payment or having acquired the > legal rights to the property and then tries to hide behind some pseudo > Divine-Right bullshit. You can fool yourself into believing that running > someone over with a car and killing them is Vehicular manslaughter and > not 1st degree murder; however, that does not change one iota the simple > fact that the victim is dead. That is an incorrect assumption. You have betrayed your tendencies toward argumentum ad hominem fallacy pretty clearly to this mailing list. Good job. =2E . . and now, slightly less directly than the jackass at the SOPA hearing, you too have equated copyright infringement with murder. I expect you'll probably equate it with rape or slavery soon enough. >=20 > You can try an justify your illegal actions all you want; criminal > attorneys make a living out of doing it in court everyday of the week. > It amazes me how scumbags constantly attempt to justify their illegal > actions. The simple fact is that a thief is a thief no matter how you > try and sugar coat it. There are no illegal filesharing actions occuring here at all. You are obviously incapable of reasonable discourse. >=20 > Now go back and play your pirated music, etcetera. I am sure you have > all ready justified that practice to yourself. Oh, of course -- "pirated", like the hundreds of CDs and audiocasettes and DVDs I have, though I've stopped consuming new music in any form from corporations that sue their own customers. I'd say you were in left field, but honestly, you're probably not even in the stadium. You *are* one of those jackasses, making accusations without any evidence that turn out to be patently false. I imagine your use of "theft" to refer to copyright infringement is not, as I initially treated it in the interests of keeping discussion civil, a mistake. Rather, it must be an intentional deception intended to smear people with whom you disagree so you can avoid having to think your arguments through and actually communicate with people. You deserve no further consideration from me. Enjoy the very small space within your mind without my company, jackass. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk7FY38ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKU6swCfS6zHggiZmQpKUUcFx/YL/6cq V5EAnjgQVAgF0AuwwgDbuFOwM9yxVKyb =YjMG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 19:59:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3568106564A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:59:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy4-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy4.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9185F8FC08 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:59:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29553 invoked by uid 0); 17 Nov 2011 19:59:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2011 19:59:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=PlYJ0ak53uPYt6SMqqwgfTrVLr5hh+kybE0qXOyEkBo=; b=nvOcZRHn0FIIYa87oiMO9TJNF3Sdg8AenxhPW44eNGzeunwl+12yVKUuTkkJ2nhCYM4eXTAYqjmZJpOramhBNnBI6Xzb21CUsgJo+3cj/ysTjdRw1ujzkE0lY87yJSX5; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RR877-0008GA-5Z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:59:14 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:56:31 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:56:31 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111117195631.GA45423@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> <20111117171750.GB44779@guilt.hydra> <20111117125606.1aaf3e79@scorpio> <20111117194151.GA45282@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111117194151.GA45282@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:59:14 -0000 --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:41:51PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: >=20 > Oh, of course -- "pirated", like the hundreds of CDs and audiocasettes > and DVDs I have, though I've stopped consuming new music in any form from > corporations that sue their own customers. clarification: Those are hundreds of CDs and audiocasettes and DVDs that I have purchased legally. I think the "purchased legally" part got accidentally deleted while I was trying to fix a typo (which somehow never ended up fixed; find it if you can). I think the only CD of music I've ever burned was a copy of an audiocasette I had bought twelve years earlier. I'd exhort readers to not take Jerry's absurd accusations and hostile attitude to anyone who doesn't just applaud his every effort as an indication that they should ignore the rest of what he says; in theory, some of it might actually be worth considering. As I've reread it, though, I see that all of it is tainted by (intentionally?) confusing terms such as "theft" and "copyright infringement", leveling baseless accusations against innocent parties, and generally engaging in fallacy by preference rather than actual reasoned argumentation, so there's nothing left to read and judge for oneself. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk7FZu8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXWjACfR9lAZD3+JWRgPq6pa88vkn4C 70kAn2vqDlUVzQ+vYhHTMCQOcc9BDEYi =CPih -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 20:15:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5853106564A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:15:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh1.interactivevillages.com (ca.2e.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.46.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B830F8FC0A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:15:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 184-78-197-203.war.clearwire-wmx.net ([184.78.197.203] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh1.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RR8Md-00018a-BN for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:14:52 -0800 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:15:15 -0800 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:15:15 -0800 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111117201515.GB12169@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> <20111117080004.00000179@unknown> <20111117083849.288fa033@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111117083849.288fa033@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh1.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:15:21 -0000 --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Jerry on Thursday, 17 November 2011: >=20 > Only those who break laws have a reason to fear them. That statement carries large assumptions about the wisdom and benevolence of government. --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOxWtTAAoJEIpckszW26+RrFgH/A1P4sSY2kAI01Tm1SGEj4tF AT93lXPEL9P8sbwheQjyzFU76+uSMfAtzZkKy5FVYv6mW6XmLB3wPL3MuRwRaq/v u41WbRpBlXdBeIuIikUCWeSyt7Ab0twM5EEXtUQ9k5JHI5MRFnfQCDCVVQkBkKn/ 2kXO+9IhA91Ohhln94EHdJ6ZtPJ3LLO0Vk11CIOnUWjPpYwZk/o+aRYAqrXmgxqD Jg9bf/8qRBmYdnZhtjHNx+/WweuI5baZ//NBp6LpJ/N9UZd2Ok2lcXBk6RRIVv07 I2nkpDhh/r/1c8cc2OinCfJBQMsG7ZcXwIF1++d96nldBHrKMx2GNhs68Bau8Mc= =SsDD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 20:20:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD5F106566C for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:20:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stas@legolasweb.nl) Received: from smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3518FC12 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:20:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.137] (helo=smtp6.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RR8Rb-0002iF-Q1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:20:23 +0100 Received: from 5357e90f.cm-6-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([83.87.233.15] helo=homey.local) by smtp6.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RR8Ra-0003j8-Tq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:20:22 +0100 Received: from homey.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homey.local (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pAHKKP1q054722 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:20:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stas@homey.local) Received: (from stas@localhost) by homey.local (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id pAHKKPU8054721 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:20:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stas) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:20:25 +0100 From: Stas Verberkt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111117202025.GA54183@homey.local> References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> <20111117171750.GB44779@guilt.hydra> <20111117125606.1aaf3e79@scorpio> <20111117194151.GA45282@guilt.hydra> <20111117195631.GA45423@guilt.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111117195631.GA45423@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1RR8Ra-0003j8-Tq X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-4.718, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, PROLO_TRUST_RDNS -3.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98, SPF_SOFTFAIL 0.20) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: stas@legolasweb.nl X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:20:25 -0000 --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:56:31PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > I'd exhort readers to not take Jerry's absurd accusations and hostile > attitude to anyone who doesn't just applaud his every effort as an > indication that they should ignore the rest of what he says; in theory, > some of it might actually be worth considering. As I've reread it, > though, I see that all of it is tainted by (intentionally?) confusing > terms such as "theft" and "copyright infringement", leveling baseless > accusations against innocent parties, and generally engaging in fallacy > by preference rather than actual reasoned argumentation, so there's > nothing left to read and judge for oneself. I just saw that, besides the already mentioned website by the EFF, there seems to be a letter to congres from several privacy and free expression organisations worldwide: https://s3.amazonaws.com/access.3cdn.net/ea0af5a75bcbfe15c4_v0m6bxvv4.pdf Or Mozilla: https://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2011/11/15/mozilla/ Kind regards --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOxWyJAAoJEKBMSeL04vuLWasQAIWC4HL6hVVN40Q9mQ29eJdK KugReHcdiksidvD0fGPd/4Qkbbs9OwiuigdSN4iKpWQROKBqmEIYlUE3XWlsuNsk rlNuNziF3WgYUdFZS3q9M3LfFGoUVC901r6a5MrI6snqqNoL3AjupXjrqy/RN9oO edBqBokNPWYbN9OBJCfb6diu9v+pZI3UvccY6JbdkJnz5UbFaZGuQImg0bihoNIe qLmk3mn1Ze7qvN0pmxlFmRTJudXXM3FMpijxwkcRHQ5SOj5LEpGqFP9aIQZmpWn9 gPeD6c++Z5tVNOyP7UR1ROkNKmk+ZvICR6YW1jTkXAMd3NH9RydmLDJDl+h71DuA VoukJzScnVzbystBkgTRmOF86L1ljQUlMiB70awfTY8pk8q9j+BffG3DH9kTVh64 cdYAxNEq48ycN2bFBhk17dP6XaxhTeJICt3qrOoU4iVDvGNUWumx8ATkKZ/4P+d/ o1sYsWuCQKcCkrzRyx/DIdUWtLClb7nmt81+2FUn3g7HimDXh2CbzAA/ZarwC61v hjRfjK3+4ekB7fvmDGUkCtTV6+t+SgtEfno2+Y3EDJuhYsOriMA+CTIcDyGvPbuk pQEmqfC5A9jdLW94lusrO7Hu63V1RHUpckzJ5iiKLrdqlGG/Umwr4U4a4It6WvhX +8qI1WIUVvMbKdUHdZfh =IIY2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 20:46:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6828106566C for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:46:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mixmaster@anonymitaet-im-inter.net) Received: from anonymitaet-im-inter.net (mail.anonymitaet-im-inter.net [78.31.67.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1A08FC12 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by anonymitaet-im-inter.net (Postfix, from userid 105) id 11F2A9E822C; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:28:39 +0100 (CET) From: Dave U. Random Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:28:39 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:46:36 -0000 > My assessment is still being built so thanks for sharing your thoughts on > this, Jerry Not that I paid attention to the proposal, because I decided a few decades ago governments were the root of all evil and nothing they do is for anybody's good. There isn't enough time in the universe to read and object to all the new draconian laws. The business of legislative bodies should be to constantly repeal bad laws instead of making new bad ones. But I digest... > By controlling the root servers, they could blacklist anything. They already p0wned the root servers. Look at the Microsoft case. The federales went into private server farms and set up their own boxes. You think anything goes through American backbones and the guys in black suits with no sense of humor don't know about it, and can't reroute it or DOS it or make funny things happen already? Wake up and smell the Constitution burning. The Homeland Insecurity fascists strip search innocent citizens not accused of any crime (to hell with the Bill of Rights) and they (DHS) have already taken over hundreds of domains because they (DHS) accused the domain owner of running a website that sells forgeries of legitimate products like handbags, iphones, etc. No court case, no grand jury, no due process. Just gimme gimme gimme. I'm the government, get out of my way or I'll kill you or I'll confiscate everything you own and then I'll kill you. > Aren't there enough laws already to protect copyright? There are too many laws now to protect anything. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 23:07:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC511065678 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DB88FC16 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:07:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywe9 with SMTP id 9so2582670ywe.13 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:07:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.210.20 with SMTP id m20mr153480anq.93.1321571243165; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:07:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from papi.localnet ([177.98.48.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i67sm8138476yhm.16.2011.11.17.15.07.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:07:22 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Lobo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:07:49 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.6.2; amd64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201111172007.49715.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:07:24 -0000 On Thursday 17 November 2011 17:28:39 Dave U. Random wrote: > They already p0wned the root servers. Look at the Microsoft case. The > federales went into private server farms and set up their own boxes. You > think anything goes through American backbones and the guys in black suits > with no sense of humor don't know about it, and can't reroute it or DOS it > or make funny things happen already? Wake up and smell the Constitution > burning. Yes but it isn't "legal" .... YET! > > Aren't there enough laws already to protect copyright? > > There are too many laws now to protect anything. I believe that this whole discussion boils down to one comment I just saw on ZDNET: "Yes, our government is trying to censor the web. So is the UK. Our corrupt officials have sold our government to the highest bidder, and it is now operated by the rich for the rich... and they fear an American Spring(**) like the ones now being celebrated throughout the middle east. After crushing the citizens under heel for so long, they see what open communications have brought in Arabian countries and fear the same here. Thus, the land of the free and it's free speech must become a thing of the past so that the rich can continue to get richer and the poor may be oppressed more easily. Perhaps I am becoming a cynical old man as I watch them disassemble my constitution, but these are sad times : sad times indeed. Regards, Jon" (**) which is already happening !! I think that this is what they want to stop. People are becoming aware of things, not through official statements, PBS, the State of the Union Address or mainstream media, but through each other! Fast and uncensored ! And from any point of the planet. Facts that would never come to public awareness otherwise.And this knowledge is empowering people to take to the streets knowing exactly why. Copyright, laws, intellectual property and legal jargons are nothing but smoke and mirrors. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 23:45:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C18106564A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:45:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357908FC0A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywe9 with SMTP id 9so2632767ywe.13 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:45:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=L0ah/iEy7irWGRUnyMX6KMFEqJZPYFXnyldbaIr206o=; b=O9+R1Stc0AH0OFcmXoqW1yDxXz9Kuze2cv8QMgjWxV98W/0GcNy8PY0z/PlLhQMiMw juSnI/23Ri/w29dOipvGZtNe15iZ/oMGGBWL9alVyt16sYMGLZCtYpwJe8f558P6joAw FH/ZDQkA0riTG0T1dIt6kYZbKcz3CtvPKCyN4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.146.91.10 with SMTP id o10mr133519yab.21.1321573557934; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:45:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.138.9 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:45:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:45:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:45:59 -0000 On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: > My apologies to all for this, specially to those who already know about this > and those who think too little of it. > > I am really worried about this: > > http://americancensorship.org/ > > If these rootless people get control of what goes through the root servers, we > will loose the last free medium of expression and info exchange that is not > owned by a corporation or anybody. > > I don't know if I should be worried or not, but if my worries are founded and > this comes to pass, as far as I can see, it will be the end of this great tool > as we know it today. > > There is a petition going on here: > > http://www.avaaz.org/en/save_the_internet/ > > There are a lot of Americans on this list that have a lot more power than the > rest of us to change this. A LOT of people from all over the world is signing > this petition. > > I hope at least some don't judge me to be over dramatic here but this > situation sounds very much so. > > I hope that most of you (if not all) replicates this and that I don't get > scalded for this post. > > I can only hope .... I too would like to appologize to all the ranters for going in a more technical direction with this discussion. But, it is my understanding that if passed this legislation would force ISPs to break DNSSEC, by tampering with signed DNS resolution, right? With all due respect to any view on the issue, isn't this a negative thing? Perhaps throwing the baby out with the bathwater? Plus, if congress thinks that there is only one set of DNS servers, they're sadly uninformed. If they want to break it, then people will just change over to a different set of servers to access The Pirate Bay, or scat porn, or stormfront.com, or the Libertarian Party website, or anything else the government wants to arbitrarily censor then change back to the broken one to get their government approved scrubbed squeaky clean intertube. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 01:56:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769891065673 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 01:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xyin@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1CCD48FC19 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 01:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 18 Nov 2011 01:56:44 -0000 Received: from pool-173-64-118-99.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net (EHLO jupiter) [173.64.118.99] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us006) with SMTP; 17 Nov 2011 20:56:44 -0500 X-Authenticated: #50283380 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Vjudm6y9VCpjv/NxF8+j7UEmtkUIrnJXiXaQWMy mysLjQuWxbg6vC Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:56:31 -0500 (EST) From: Xihong Yin To: FreeBSD Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: network problem on 8.2 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 01:56:46 -0000 Hi, I upgraded from 8.0 stable to 8.2 stable today. Now I can't connect to the network through the network adapter. I've set DCHP and SYNCDHCP in /etc/rc.conf and it worked in 8.0. It seems the dhclient problem. The ip address can't be obtained. When I run 'dhclient em0' manually, it shows that an ip address is leased. But actually it is not. The 'ifconfig em0' always shows an address of 0.0.0.0 with active status. $dhclient em0 DHCPREQUEST on em0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPACK from 192.168.3.1 bound to 192.168.3.39 -- renewal in 43200 seconds But $ifconfig em0 em0: flags=8802 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=389b ether 6c:62:6d:03:16:31 inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 255.255.255.255 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP ) status: active Any help would be appreciated. Xihong From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 02:20:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C42A1065678 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:20:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049ED8FC22 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:20:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywe9 with SMTP id 9so2818580ywe.13 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:20:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BoDp7Orxtl9StucI2kJFDOtK83LmyMdHuqkQxWjESYg=; b=H1edWxoexAQDb9/yiyQZTsJ9RWGhUtDrbAura7ryK334HixoDYskb7V0GgYhujINmg OpObB13WxdLqbgLUq6AOJ/rqcVIjMeIDzEQueQ0DSj3nX7XLmYtj0ULPwD03RNM90L5o 72v2/YFTEmjhl3QD9ElMT2BboPHNVILbmka1E= Received: by 10.50.169.33 with SMTP id ab1mr1210144igc.0.1321582344143; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:12:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eb23sm8799611ibb.2.2011.11.17.18.12.22 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:12:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC5CDC5.3000203@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:15:17 -0800 From: Edward Martinez User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.2.20) Gecko/20110804 Thunderbird/3.1.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xihong Yin References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: network problem on 8.2 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:20:25 -0000 On 11/17/11 17:56, Xihong Yin wrote: > The ip address can't be obtained. Have you tried rebooting FreeBSD and letting it obtain the IP itself? On some OSes that has actually worked. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 02:24:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDCC106564A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:24:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fritz-bounce@frell.theremailer.net) Received: from frell.theremailer.net (unknown [IPv6:2002:d527:d955:9:d087:6451:e79a:d030]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F348FC1C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:24:04 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=frell.theremailer.net; s=remailer; h=Date:Message-ID:Subject:Comments:From; bh=JkwxwC0yzHUKRLOyfc8svQpDL6LAwtja2c35Wwa9c+8=; b=Af9uTgO5oLocDA2XhvWPjCEL1CPbLY0FXxtzeakVgH4nhwFlFzeIJWX+VMa2nqfvlBWgIMSXtuoQ+LeOvssKEwIcGXp+PFqVEkyegkVO/UDvyRH2XbCsgVuUbs+b5n53LdKF8rwFwy5mD/mXdFzL1Zem0JRIVmoCb6j5Xlui8ToNIUofUPX0yoUhUe0KEgKdfU3THezbaagxKPyA4iIpwj4LLM+ATevvnfsVKFmuatYDTVrBhYzAgOd4FXOOVbhfnSssp8mE6WNlyFJNzQQ7OUldEPkrU2XEJ3uqxSacLm/pC4O/Lx/QIdferIWc76pIcq3g22MARg8dJ88SVsez+hE=; Received: by frell.theremailer.net with local (Exim) id 1RRE4q-0005Xb-VO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org envelope-sender fritz-bounce@frell.theremailer.net; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:21:16 +0100 From: Fritz Wuehler Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . Identifying the real sender is technically impossible. To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20111117083849.288fa033@scorpio> Message-ID: <170531a1b70b1da531b47a6a1d7ade08@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> Precedence: anon Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:21:16 +0100 Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:24:05 -0000 Jerry wrote: > Only those who break laws have a reason to fear them. That is a catastrophically incorrect view. Ask an attorney how much is spent by corporations and private citizens defending themselves against both wrongful lawsuits and wrongful prosecution. It's enough money to run a few other small countries. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 02:41:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49240106566C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xyin@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E31C68FC16 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 18 Nov 2011 02:41:20 -0000 Received: from pool-173-64-118-99.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net (EHLO jupiter) [173.64.118.99] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us001) with SMTP; 17 Nov 2011 21:41:20 -0500 X-Authenticated: #50283380 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+tZKY178OtLDV763WYuQQUiCSTv33FQKyS177P/2 RD7PBO2pkZwCJw Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:41:12 -0500 (EST) From: Xihong Yin To: Edward Martinez In-Reply-To: <4EC5CDC5.3000203@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4EC5CDC5.3000203@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: network problem on 8.2 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:41:22 -0000 I did reboot. It is the same thing. On Thu, 17 Nov 2011, Edward Martinez wrote: > On 11/17/11 17:56, Xihong Yin wrote: >> The ip address can't be obtained. > > > Have you tried rebooting FreeBSD and letting it obtain the IP itself? > On some OSes that has actually worked. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 03:27:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A7D106566B for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8BC8FC12 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iakl21 with SMTP id l21so4416731iak.13 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:27:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vWMak4FRSeX+R0gfeSnQrjzAds+qKtZrrKIpRDkFNGg=; b=sXBKkhi+oxmHvY4SvtV1RuPmIO25S8GM93ihp4w6fS7qdYIzjrmsKytxHcFTq/iixt 23rR5EjLkEmHSRVnuQkc15nvWy7cJZ5RjrOBZ/cm4zXaq+qVcmx/xRTYQGCi1PLV4l9I KzmuhYTuR7Mnk4hKje8rJC/nTRK/rcnuEDEVM= Received: by 10.42.158.3 with SMTP id f3mr1348702icx.7.1321586858942; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e2sm65755296ibe.0.2011.11.17.19.27.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:27:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC5DF68.8030700@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:30:32 -0800 From: Edward Martinez User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.2.20) Gecko/20110804 Thunderbird/3.1.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xihong Yin References: <4EC5CDC5.3000203@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: network problem on 8.2 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:27:41 -0000 On 11/17/11 18:41, Xihong Yin wrote: > > I did reboot. It is the same thing. > > On Thu, 17 Nov 2011, Edward Martinez wrote: > >> On 11/17/11 17:56, Xihong Yin wrote: >>> The ip address can't be obtained. >> >> >> Have you tried rebooting FreeBSD and letting it obtain the IP itself? >> On some OSes that has actually worked. >> > > Did you try configure the nic with sysinstall? I think FreeBSD 8.2 has a updated em driver. You may need to download the newest FreeBSD em driver from intel. http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=17509&keyword=%22em%22&DownloadType=Drivers&OSFullname=FreeBSD*&lang=eng From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 03:53:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2897A106564A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xyin@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-us.mail.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF5868FC0A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:53:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 18 Nov 2011 03:53:29 -0000 Received: from pool-173-64-118-99.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net (EHLO jupiter) [173.64.118.99] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us008) with SMTP; 17 Nov 2011 22:53:29 -0500 X-Authenticated: #50283380 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/p+uRbrNTp+t1qlB8pkSHEl93To85OtFCxULYqEk h/nQm4UnVJe/Fs Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 22:53:21 -0500 (EST) From: Xihong Yin To: Edward Martinez In-Reply-To: <4EC5DF68.8030700@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4EC5CDC5.3000203@gmail.com> <4EC5DF68.8030700@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: network problem on 8.2 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:53:31 -0000 I think the driver that comes with 8.2 stable just works fine. When I manually run dhclient em0, it says ip address obtained. but ifconfig em0 shows ip address of 0.0.0.0. And there is no default route in the 'netstat -r' output. On Thu, 17 Nov 2011, Edward Martinez wrote: > On 11/17/11 18:41, Xihong Yin wrote: >> >> I did reboot. It is the same thing. >> >> On Thu, 17 Nov 2011, Edward Martinez wrote: >> >>> On 11/17/11 17:56, Xihong Yin wrote: >>>> The ip address can't be obtained. >>> >>> >>> Have you tried rebooting FreeBSD and letting it obtain the IP itself? >>> On some OSes that has actually worked. >>> >> >> > Did you try configure the nic with sysinstall? I think FreeBSD 8.2 has a > updated em driver. You may need to download the newest FreeBSD em driver from > intel. > > http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=17509&keyword=%22em%22&DownloadType=Drivers&OSFullname=FreeBSD*&lang=eng > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 04:16:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07061106566C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:16:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC6C8FC08 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:16:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pAI4Gkan066724; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:16:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id pAI4Gk8U066721; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:16:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:16:46 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Xihong Yin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:16:46 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: network problem on 8.2 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:16:48 -0000 On Thu, 17 Nov 2011, Xihong Yin wrote: > Hi, > > I upgraded from 8.0 stable to 8.2 stable today. Now I can't connect to the > network through the network adapter. I've set DCHP and SYNCDHCP in > /etc/rc.conf and it worked in 8.0. It seems the dhclient problem. The ip > address can't be obtained. > > When I run 'dhclient em0' manually, it shows that an ip address is leased. > But actually it is not. The 'ifconfig em0' always shows an address of 0.0.0.0 > with active status. > > $dhclient em0 > DHCPREQUEST on em0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 > DHCPACK from 192.168.3.1 > bound to 192.168.3.39 -- renewal in 43200 seconds > > But > > $ifconfig em0 > em0: flags=8802 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=389b > ether 6c:62:6d:03:16:31 > inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 255.255.255.255 > nd6 options=29 > media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP ) > status: active > > Any help would be appreciated. The interface is down: no "UP" in the flags. What happens if you just do it manually: ifconfig em0 up From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 07:09:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A386E106564A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snoop@email.it) Received: from smtp-out06.email.it (smtp-out06.email.it [212.97.34.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EE38FC14 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:09:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-out06.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5CF12C003 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:09:07 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at email.it Received: from smtp-out06.email.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-out06.email.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id R4LIkHKXbP5L for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:09:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.0.0.59] (inhio.eu [84.242.85.251]) by smtp-out06.email.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D8A2C020 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:09:07 +0100 (CET) From: Snoop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:09:06 +0100 Message-ID: <1321600146.37903.4.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: LAGG and Jails? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:09:09 -0000 Does anyone know if it's possible to configure lagg for network redundancy on a FreeBSD server containing jails? I'm having problems with that. I couldn't found much around therefore I'm not even sure it's "doable". Thanks in advance, any tip will be appreciated. -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: ING DIRECT Conto Arancio. 4,20% per 12 mesi, zero spese, aprilo in due minuti! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11921&d=18-11 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 07:49:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22EA1065678 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linda.messerschmidt@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578558FC15 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:49:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so4197550bkb.13 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:49:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=X/juXL0nyn7DuO70m1sRSf564DeTl3Y9VNrIO0+X944=; b=sXp5woiqPSyN70gj/gjsFeGAFC9U+SxLulltt5Q1nHtujvyppv3pP/iRZBsWY/kfN3 YsS1oDoF9FMV77vGRKLCVIhLfXQqOQBwDYzhNKXJv12FUXJ6sbaIsOL63KR7vicIhXwX p0kBLpvzy4TEx8RliCkKlKlbLM8McgE8ri+z4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.121.20 with SMTP id ga20mr2004952bkc.94.1321601046575; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:24:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.86.11 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:24:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:24:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: Linda Messerschmidt To: John Kotrla Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: re0: PHY read failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:49:03 -0000 On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:32 AM, John Kotrla wrote: > I don't use the device, > [=85] > any suggestions? Compile it out of your kernel. You should be able to do this by adding: nodevice re to your kernel config and rebuilding. As to the actual problem it sounds like it might be a hardware issue. (Good thing you're not using it.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 08:12:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC5D1065672 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D968FC08 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.113.99.128] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de.) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RRJYL-0007nH-9C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:12:06 +0100 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de. (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de. (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAI8CVZd001082 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:12:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de. (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id pAI8CUvw001081 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:12:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de.: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:12:30 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111118081229.GA1068@tiny> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 82.113.99.128 Subject: sendmail+saslauthd && verify=FAIL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:12:09 -0000 Hello, I have to use SMTP with AUTH to my ISP, and do this with sendmail+saslauthd as described in the FreeBSD handbook; it works fine for me in 9-CURRENT and now 10-CURRENT; while digging for some other problem in the /var/log/maillog I struggled about the line: STARTTLS=client, relay=smtp.1blu.de., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL se below; what does the FAIL means exactly? Thanks matthias Nov 18 08:53:30 caracas sendmail[10868]: pAI7rU7P010868: Authentication-Warning: caracas.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Nov 18 08:53:30 caracas sendmail[10868]: pAI7rU7P010868: from=guru@unixarea.de, size=62, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<201111180753.pAI7rU7P010868@caracas.Sisis.de>, relay=guru@localhost Nov 18 08:53:31 caracas sm-mta[10869]: pAI7rUNQ010869: from=, size=422, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<201111180753.pAI7rU7P010868@caracas.Sisis.de>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=Daemon0, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1] Nov 18 08:53:31 caracas sendmail[10868]: pAI7rU7P010868: to=guru@XXXXXX.org, ctladdr=guru@unixarea.de (1001/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=relay, pri=30062, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (pAI7rUNQ010869 Message accepted for delivery) Nov 18 08:53:32 caracas sm-mta[10871]: STARTTLS=client, relay=smtp.1blu.de., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA, bits=256/256 Nov 18 08:53:33 caracas sm-mta[10871]: pAI7rUNQ010869: to=, delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=relay, pri=30422, relay=smtp.1blu.de. [89.202.0.34], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK id=1RRJGf-0001DJ-Gv) -- Matthias Apitz e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 08:58:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780321065670 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:58:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416E48FC0C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:58:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iakl21 with SMTP id l21so4860980iak.13 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:58:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LQORHg+5yYFAY+Sg4wE0daF/6dw//KE3K/1qMO54pag=; b=pJnujH6Fo5puYQn5dTgTSBCD2v/PmTnpPgpFyt/CIcyomO/YrReNUtN0AVsZnb/CcE YfisENfukPrM/D8pgFLJBC9rN0/r1S+ZNSqeF/kDSCd+FvkIS0agdOhFqLsrRLSpx+Ek LLUI84PvdBUGa9DBt+KqrxK6Uk6OQWc/hYKFM= Received: by 10.50.100.194 with SMTP id fa2mr2010661igb.49.1321606682533; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:58:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e2sm537286ibe.0.2011.11.18.00.58.01 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:58:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC62CD8.7090305@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:00:56 -0800 From: Edward Martinez User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.2.20) Gecko/20110804 Thunderbird/3.1.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz References: <20111118081229.GA1068@tiny> In-Reply-To: <20111118081229.GA1068@tiny> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: sendmail+saslauthd && verify=FAIL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:58:03 -0000 On 11/18/11 00:12, Matthias Apitz wrote: > STARTTLS=client, relay=smtp.1blu.de., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL > > se below; what does the FAIL means exactly? > I have been reading on the subject and it appears you do not trust the certificate issuer for smtp.lblu.de. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 09:34:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2A4106564A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:34:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AEDA8FC08 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:34:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pAI9YoCE066435 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:34:50 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk pAI9YoCE066435 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1321608890; bh=NVF97mdBvuwWlltDohMrejDJDBPkLRYxaKF68MKeGFc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=zX4U7Fe/RvbrP9ikAsxkDLS+xdJpi7JXtNM9HYThoztUQrH+uI9F69kMN4HsPPGHk bwfuCAt2A8jeQy/sJzO02LKz7gmGQe29nz5yWrTNhwwDdQNNx11vka+R2UDps8pKap q8jySyfYm//IguI0HgncjcnKRQgAIosZ8IPNJNuQ= Message-ID: <4EC626B1.70506@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:34:41 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20111118081229.GA1068@tiny> <4EC62CD8.7090305@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EC62CD8.7090305@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig9CECCC504245D643350CF544" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: sendmail+saslauthd && verify=FAIL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:34:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig9CECCC504245D643350CF544 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 18/11/2011 10:00, Edward Martinez wrote: > On 11/18/11 00:12, Matthias Apitz wrote: >> STARTTLS=3Dclient, relay=3Dsmtp.1blu.de., version=3DTLSv1/SSLv3, verif= y=3DFAIL >> >> se below; what does the FAIL means exactly? >> > I have been reading on the subject and it appears you do not trust > the certificate > issuer for smtp.lblu.de. Which is pretty much normal for SSL certs used for mail transfer. Most mail servers use a self-signed certificate, because the important point is not to verify the identity of the other party but to protect the messages in transit against snooping. All that requires is a secure means of agreeing a symmetric session key between both parties, and the TLS handshake is the best available way of doing that. Verifying SSL keys between MTAs is mostly useful only within one organisation where the keys can be issued from one central authority, or between a group of tightly integrated organisations. With the advent of DNSSEC and things like the DANE project (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dane-protocol-12) that might change, but DNSSEC adoption is too patchy yet for it to be effective. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig9CECCC504245D643350CF544 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7GJrkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIx1BwCeP08rQ7SpMsljli0k0FtmvUig S3sAn2dEmtHD50KErRXow5U61Rjv2hlU =116Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9CECCC504245D643350CF544-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 12:37:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9011065672 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E0D8FC15 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:37:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so4548827bkb.13 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:37:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.9.204 with SMTP id m12mr3103588bkm.131.1321619854930; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c4sm568560bkk.13.2011.11.18.04.37.32 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:37:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC6518B.4030001@my.gd> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:37:31 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1321600146.37903.4.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> In-Reply-To: <1321600146.37903.4.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: LAGG and Jails? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:37:39 -0000 On 11/18/11 8:09 AM, Snoop wrote: > Does anyone know if it's possible to configure lagg for network > redundancy on a FreeBSD server containing jails? I'm having problems > with that. I couldn't found much around therefore I'm not even sure it's > "doable". > > Thanks in advance, any tip will be appreciated. > Show your ifconfig output, I'm curious about how you configure your lagg Also please post your uname -a output and rc.conf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 14:32:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CD9106564A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:32:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jherman@dichotomia.fr) Received: from mail.dichotomia.fr (hydrogen.dichotomia.net [91.121.82.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3018FC12 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:32:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.84] (unknown [178.208.2.9]) (Authenticated sender: kha) by mail.dichotomia.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D9B303DD069 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:10:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EC66850.2030008@dichotomia.fr> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:14:40 +0100 From: Jerome Herman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mail.dichotomia.fr); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:10:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: Geom Gate usage and perf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:32:53 -0000 Hello, Just wondering if anyone is using geom gate and could help me with huge perf issue I am having. Right now the set up is such : 3 drives on the same machine A, exported through geom gate and connected to machine B. On machine B I format the drives as freebsd-vinum and mount them in stripping+mirroring. The end goal is to have High Availability drives. The setup is working, but the perf are awfull. Thinking It was due to software stripping and mirroring slowing the process down I tried with only one drive with a standard UFS format. The perf are still horrible. When the drive is mounted locally on machine A and I copy data with rsync from machine B; I have a steady 12MB/s data transfer rate. When the same drive is mounted with geom gate on machine B, the copy rate is around 6KB/s to 25KB/s The drive was tested for I/O problems twice, and nothing was found. Any idea or suggestion as to where the problem might come from ? Thanks for your help. Jerome Herman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 14:57:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E96B106564A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay06.ispgateway.de (smtprelay06.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5E88FC18 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [78.35.81.42] (helo=fabiankeil.de) by smtprelay06.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1RRPsd-0005GU-Bj; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:57:27 +0100 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:57:06 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111118155706.72749e3b@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: <4EC66850.2030008@dichotomia.fr> References: <4EC66850.2030008@dichotomia.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/rWGxD0W2O5dT0gebI9.8IXd"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Df-Sender: Nzc1MDY3 Cc: Jerome Herman Subject: Re: Geom Gate usage and perf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:57:29 -0000 --Sig_/rWGxD0W2O5dT0gebI9.8IXd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jerome Herman wrote: > Just wondering if anyone is using geom gate and could help me with huge=20 > perf issue I am having. > Right now the set up is such : 3 drives on the same machine A, exported=20 > through geom gate and connected to machine B. > On machine B I format the drives as freebsd-vinum and mount them in=20 > stripping+mirroring. >=20 > The end goal is to have High Availability drives. >=20 > The setup is working, but the perf are awfull. Thinking It was due to=20 > software stripping and mirroring slowing the process down I tried with=20 > only one drive with a standard UFS format. >=20 > The perf are still horrible. When the drive is mounted locally on=20 > machine A and I copy data with rsync from machine B; I have a steady=20 > 12MB/s data transfer rate. > When the same drive is mounted with geom gate on machine B, the copy=20 > rate is around 6KB/s to 25KB/s >=20 > The drive was tested for I/O problems twice, and nothing was found. >=20 > Any idea or suggestion as to where the problem might come from ? I haven't used ggate in years, but if I remember correctly I had performance issues as well until I significantly increased the send and receive buffers for ggatec and ggated. I think I never reached the performance I had hoped for, but at least it got good enough to be usable. Fabian --Sig_/rWGxD0W2O5dT0gebI9.8IXd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk7GckoACgkQBYqIVf93VJ1rSQCdExTwoqW2Xx8EYzwmkFQhts41 orsAnRMUj6plvBu5ZXbvmaxnJ5kzhJM3 =BIHv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/rWGxD0W2O5dT0gebI9.8IXd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 15:34:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 788DF106566B for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:34:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (timevouch.com [IPv6:2001:470:a80a:1:afef:8961:1902:6204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1688FC16 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A203A8A12 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:34:25 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id STxiRdbpUfIy for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:34:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from roo.daycos.com (roo.daycos.com [10.45.12.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 69090A8A06 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:34:21 -0600 (CST) From: Kirk Strauser Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:34:18 -0600 Message-Id: <99414592-7FC7-4F24-8FEA-6F2F7B03551A@strauser.com> To: FreeBSD Questions ML Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: Shouldn't GNU tar be ignoring /proc with --one-file-system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:34:27 -0000 I use Amanda to make nightly backups of a bunch of servers using GNU = tar. However, gtar doesn't seem to respect its --one-file-system flag = with /proc. Amanda runs a variation of this command: # /usr/local/bin/gtar --create --file - --directory / = --one-file-system --sparse --ignore-failed-read --totals . > /dev/null /usr/local/bin/gtar: ./proc: file changed as we read it Before I file a bug report, can anyone think of a legitimate reason why = gtar would be touching /proc at all? Kirk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 16:13:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8889F1065670 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510038FC0C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:13:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk5 with SMTP id k5so3368796ggn.13 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:13:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.147.4 with SMTP id tg4mr826770obb.60.1321632814461; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:13:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.4.70 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:13:33 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.165.146] In-Reply-To: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:13:33 +0100 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Mario Lobo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:13:35 -0000 On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: > My apologies to all for this, specially to those who already know about this > and those who think too little of it. > > I am really worried about this: > > http://americancensorship.org/ Mario, I couldn't agree more and it's a very important topic. But PLEASE let's take this thread to freebsd-chat@. It *really* doesn't belong here. Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 16:41:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC33E1065675 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:41:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artemrts@ukr.net) Received: from ffe15.ukr.net (ffe15.ukr.net [195.214.192.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81CC78FC12 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:41:27 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ukr.net; s=ffe; h=Date:Message-Id:From:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; bh=h+FE+B27IsSUs9ouZsxYtiBMLVLAB7yyegx0Ra98kVM=; b=MK3gvp0Yu6i6wIk50EufqNbTDaNNw1SoSFsk82Rg6EQl2pIaRzsROqAWyzpYl8PcjL6XVPIm/twk0S5CV8k+Wc858Ukk55VKUxkp/6jb7Ihii53RVuuS7eS4IrnkZprB/VCqwub2Jh2ezPTporzn3h9NCOh4qSryVtZKfaY3RI4=; Received: from mail by ffe15.ukr.net with local ID 1RRRDI-0003cg-22 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:22:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: =?WINDOWS-1251?B?wujy4Ovo6SDC6+Dk6Ozo8O7i6Pc=?= X-Mailer: freemail.ukr.net 4.0 X-Originating-Ip: [195.200.251.66] Message-Id: <13098.1321633372.14359838929050533888@ffe15.ukr.net> X-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/8.0 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:22:52 +0200 Subject: net.isr.direct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:41:27 -0000 I am attempting to set below sysctls /boot/loader.conf net.isr.direct=1 net.isr.direct_force=1 but after rebut it still sysctl -a|grep isr net.isr.direct: 0 net.isr.direct_force: 0 Why it still zero? OS: FreeBSD-RC1 amd64 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 16:59:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5CD106564A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:59:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D688FC0C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.magehandbook.com (archersrock.info [192.168.1.100]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EA2F60 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:59:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from 152.121.16.254 (SquirrelMail authenticated user daniel) by www.magehandbook.com with HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:59:44 -0500 Message-ID: <6de19086dd1301d00679b0e51ca10a5b.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <99414592-7FC7-4F24-8FEA-6F2F7B03551A@strauser.com> References: <99414592-7FC7-4F24-8FEA-6F2F7B03551A@strauser.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:59:44 -0500 From: "Daniel Staal" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Shouldn't GNU tar be ignoring /proc with --one-file-system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:59:45 -0000 On Fri, November 18, 2011 10:34 am, Kirk Strauser wrote: > I use Amanda to make nightly backups of a bunch of servers using GNU tar. > However, gtar doesn't seem to respect its --one-file-system flag with > /proc. Amanda runs a variation of this command: > > # /usr/local/bin/gtar --create --file - --directory / > --one-file-system --sparse --ignore-failed-read --totals . > /dev/null > /usr/local/bin/gtar: ./proc: file changed as we read it > > Before I file a bug report, can anyone think of a legitimate reason why > gtar would be touching /proc at all? Just a guess, really but: /proc is a file on /. /proc/* are files on /proc. The former is still on the root filesystem (if only as a directory stub to be used as a mountpoint), so reading it isn't leaving that filesystem. Reading anything *in* it would be. Just a thought. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 17:18:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20817106564A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:18:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA768FC15 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:18:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwg14 with SMTP id 14so5399417wwg.31 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:18:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.229.234 with SMTP id h84mr521529weq.76.1321636711403; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:18:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.81.193 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:18:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6de19086dd1301d00679b0e51ca10a5b.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> References: <99414592-7FC7-4F24-8FEA-6F2F7B03551A@strauser.com> <6de19086dd1301d00679b0e51ca10a5b.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:18:31 -0800 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Daniel Staal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Shouldn't GNU tar be ignoring /proc with --one-file-system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:18:33 -0000 On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Daniel Staal wrote: > /proc is a file on /. =A0/proc/* are files on /proc. =A0The former is sti= ll on > the root filesystem (if only as a directory stub to be used as a > mountpoint), so reading it isn't leaving that filesystem. =A0Reading > anything *in* it would be. > > Just a thought. And a good one. Yes, that's it. It isn't crossing the mount point, but the mount point is part of the root filesystem. If you really want it to ignore the mount point itself, set the nodump flag and tell gtar to honor it: > chflags nodump /proc > gtar --nodump From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 17:21:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC576106564A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8A48FC18 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:21:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so4988793bkb.13 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:21:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.205.119.12 with SMTP id fs12mr4278481bkc.25.1321636866213; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:21:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cc2sm1259247bkb.8.2011.11.18.09.21.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:21:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC693FF.6020408@my.gd> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:21:03 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <13098.1321633372.14359838929050533888@ffe15.ukr.net> In-Reply-To: <13098.1321633372.14359838929050533888@ffe15.ukr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: net.isr.direct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:21:08 -0000 On 11/18/11 5:22 PM, Виталий Владимирович wrote: > > I am attempting to set below sysctls > > /boot/loader.conf > net.isr.direct=1 > net.isr.direct_force=1 > > but after rebut it still > > sysctl -a|grep isr > > net.isr.direct: 0 > net.isr.direct_force: 0 > > Why it still zero? > > OS: FreeBSD-RC1 amd64 I'm gonna assume you're running 9.0-RC1 Have you tried setting your vars in /etc/sysctl.conf and rebooting ? You never know. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 17:26:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C18A1065670 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:26:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1291A8FC0A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id pAIHR9XZ057564; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:27:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:27:09 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201111181727.pAIHR9XZ057564@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kirk@strauser.com In-Reply-To: <99414592-7FC7-4F24-8FEA-6F2F7B03551A@strauser.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Shouldn't GNU tar be ignoring /proc with --one-file-system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:26:06 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 18 09:36:09 2011 > From: Kirk Strauser > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:34:18 -0600 > To: FreeBSD Questions ML > Subject: Shouldn't GNU tar be ignoring /proc with --one-file-system? > > I use Amanda to make nightly backups of a bunch of servers using GNU tar. Howe > ver, gtar doesn't seem to respect its --one-file-system flag with /proc. Amand > a runs a variation of this command: Don't blame the software. It is just doing *exactly* what you told it to. :) > > # /usr/local/bin/gtar --create --file - --directory / --one-file-system --sparse --ignore-failed-read --totals . > /dev/null > /usr/local/bin/gtar: ./proc: file changed as we read it > > Before I file a bug report, can anyone think of a legitimate reason why gtar would be touching /proc at all? Yup. You (or more properly, Amanda) _told_ it to. See the output of 'mount(8)' for the names of all the mounted filesystems on your machine. *NOTE*WELL* that '/proc' is *not* a separate filesystem. It is merely a _directory_ with a bunch of 'special' files in it. The 'error message' is accurate -- but it is _just_ a 'warning', and -- in *this* circumstance -- _totally_ innocuous. If you want to suppress generation of that error, simply add an '--exclude' for /proc to the Amanda run. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 17:27:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33453106564A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:27:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EB68FC1B for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pAIHRDxS009530 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:27:14 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk pAIHRDxS009530 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1321637234; bh=cyb6qbgjJPg4+APOe4dwcn8KyRid+WGrBnClRkzEWsY=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=nEKKMa+TegUjJA7P22YaOPPQVJZbAwuy1B4aloa1jaC69CquCD/WYu8Te33IH+hCd XuB3G00KdANBRdVug98rWdt0DW43vMYueaZZD9Z5f1SnH7SMDAQEZN4BUT3GleJtT0 1xolh4PYFcy1I0NkBD6G/p0GYkT+k/FHohR5BB4E= Message-ID: <4EC69566.5060501@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:27:02 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <99414592-7FC7-4F24-8FEA-6F2F7B03551A@strauser.com> <6de19086dd1301d00679b0e51ca10a5b.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigEF6989F2670C4EAC106E5811" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Shouldn't GNU tar be ignoring /proc with --one-file-system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:27:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigEF6989F2670C4EAC106E5811 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 18/11/2011 17:18, Michael Sierchio wrote: > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Daniel Staal wrote: >=20 >> > /proc is a file on /. /proc/* are files on /proc. The former is st= ill on >> > the root filesystem (if only as a directory stub to be used as a >> > mountpoint), so reading it isn't leaving that filesystem. Reading >> > anything *in* it would be. >> > >> > Just a thought. > And a good one. Yes, that's it. It isn't crossing the mount point, > but the mount point is part of the root filesystem. I find it quite astonishing that /proc would deliberately behave differently to *every other* filesystem available. The mountpoint should belong to the filesystem mounted on it. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigEF6989F2670C4EAC106E5811 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7GlXAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzNrACfWc9HbQnQkIlBe6quIouWDf03 pUYAnj3G7TyCfif1KpJaH6ePodOQiikM =bTH6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigEF6989F2670C4EAC106E5811-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 17:32:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C44A1065670 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:32:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (timevouch.com [IPv6:2001:470:a80a:1:afef:8961:1902:6204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2AB8FC0C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313D4C28AE; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:32:18 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id qU8UgfgUohLU; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:32:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from roo.daycos.com (roo.daycos.com [10.45.12.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D904EC28A6; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:32:15 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Kirk Strauser In-Reply-To: <201111181727.pAIHR9XZ057564@mail.r-bonomi.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:32:14 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <92484812-3407-4A4B-B1BB-E0B5F3EDD06C@strauser.com> References: <201111181727.pAIHR9XZ057564@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: Robert Bonomi X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Shouldn't GNU tar be ignoring /proc with --one-file-system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:32:19 -0000 On Nov 18, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > See the output of 'mount(8)' for the names of all the mounted = filesystems on > your machine. =20 $ mount | grep proc procfs on /proc (procfs, local) >=20 > *NOTE*WELL* that '/proc' is *not* a separate filesystem. It is merely = a > _directory_ with a bunch of 'special' files in it. I'm confused here. In what way isn't /proc a separate filesystem? It's = even called "procfs". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 17:33:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC25106566C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:33:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from calomelopensourceresearch@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF158FC0C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:33:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vbbfa15 with SMTP id fa15so549293vbb.13 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:33:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:errors-to; bh=XJT2UyQHfzgVzjmnVnQT3VJhiSOG9v5KuOQ2mya2DTk=; b=MmWAYGQM3GlBsnaS8IDUCbtPQAUqY7kQjnOsERLVwTINs2c0fNVSj3v8w6z0C3W5MA C6ClgPxlXeJn8uUfQpk4t98x5rF61AMsg/kBHk9KmFgwYOQu+3f+AEn1/OAkM1KwjNpe wcrmUUE+uyf8vsbhKHiQhyDL26LlZawjmt9Dw= Received: by 10.52.33.140 with SMTP id r12mr4473609vdi.36.1321636223318; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:10:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from calomel.org (pool-74-103-3-35.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net. [74.103.3.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g9sm1647221vdw.20.2011.11.18.09.10.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:10:22 -0800 (PST) Sender: Calomel Org Received: from localhost (1000@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by calomel.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 475bd9f3; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:10:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:10:20 -0500 From: Calomel Org To: ??????? ??????? Message-ID: <20111118171020.GB14714@calomel.org> References: <1937306754.20111118091855@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1937306754.20111118091855@yandex.ru> Errors-To: infallibilismindefeasibility@calomel.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd tuning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Calomel Org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:33:46 -0000 Kes, First, understand that the Realtek (re0) cards have significant network problems when trying to saturate a network. If you have the ability try switching to a Intel card (em0) for a lot better performance, lower interrupts and less CPU usage. Why interrupts are not handled by more CPUs than one? This is probably the way the driver was built. It is a single processes which is using the "big lock" method. This keeps all activity for the drive bound to a single CPU core. or One CPU handle interrupts from one card, so I need two NICs?... Two nics would be a very good idea. You will see better performance a less IRQ splitting. Why it is lowered by twice? The CPU load is when the CPU is busy and can not be used by any other processes. This does _not_ mean that processing is going on, just that the CPU is unavailable. IRQ's are like locks and they keep the cpu from being use and hold on to the cpu. So, irq256 is holding onto the cpu, but not actually processing any data. This is not very efficient as you can see. Try changing cards to an Intel variety and use two nics in total; one for incoming connections and one for outgoing. On the network performace page we specify the cards we are currently using. Intel PRO/1000 GT PCI PWLA8391GT can be found on newegg for as little as $31 each. Hope this helps. -- Calomel @ https://calomel.org Open Source Research and Reference On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 02:41:15AM -0500, ??????? ??????? wrote: >Hi. > >FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #4: Fri Jun 10 01:30:12 UTC 2011 :/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PAE_KES i386 > > >I have some quiestions about FreeBSD tunig https://calomel.org/network_performance.html > >I have re0 Gigabit Ethernet NIC(NDIS 6.0) (RTL8168/8111/8111c) and core i3 2100 >and two vlans on it: the one for incoming and the other for outgoing packets. > >#top -SIHP >last pid: 14902; load averages: 1.92, 2.12, 1.96 up 0+17:47:31 19:59:04 >226 processes: 12 running, 197 sleeping, 17 waiting >CPU 0: 0.6% user, 0.0% nice, 1.2% system, 88.3% interrupt, 9.8% idle >CPU 1: 1.8% user, 0.0% nice, 29.4% system, 0.0% interrupt, 68.7% idle >CPU 2: 3.7% user, 0.0% nice, 30.7% system, 0.0% interrupt, 65.6% idle >CPU 3: 3.1% user, 0.0% nice, 25.8% system, 0.0% interrupt, 71.2% idle >Mem: 264M Active, 1641M Inact, 272M Wired, 832K Cache, 112M Buf, 1721M Free >Swap: 4096M Total, 4096M Free > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND > 12 root -92 - 0K 152K CPU0 0 354:30 96.78% {irq256: re0} > 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K RUN 1 929:16 77.83% {idle: cpu1} > 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K RUN 3 922:41 72.95% {idle: cpu3} > 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K RUN 2 904:02 71.63% {idle: cpu2} > 13 root -16 - 0K 32K CPU3 1 71:11 18.65% {ng_queue1} > 13 root -16 - 0K 32K RUN 1 71:10 18.36% {ng_queue3} > 13 root -16 - 0K 32K RUN 3 71:18 17.63% {ng_queue0} > 13 root -16 - 0K 32K RUN 1 71:11 17.14% {ng_queue2} > 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K RUN 0 682:25 10.55% {idle: cpu0} >55709 root 20 0 13408K 5840K select 2 15:50 1.71% snmpd >14902 cacti 33 0 11960K 3480K select 1 0:00 1.12% snmpget >14864 cacti 46 0 11116K 2836K piperd 3 0:00 1.12% perl5.10.1 >14867 root 46 0 9728K 1956K select 3 0:00 1.12% sudo > >as you can see irq256 take all CPU0 time and packets that travel >through router have a lose about 5-10%, CPU100% loaded when trafic >achive 400Mbit/s and then lower as twice > >Now questions >1. Why interrupts are not handled by more CPUs than one? > >2. or One CPU handle interrupts from one card, so I need two NICs?... > >3. Why it is lowered by twice? > >Thank you. > >-- >? ?????????, > ??????? mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 17:41:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE83B106564A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:41:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from esayre@olemiss.edu) Received: from umavas1.olemiss.edu (umavas1.olemiss.edu [130.74.120.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61598FC15 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:41:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from umavas1.olemiss.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 86740D0C352 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:23:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from ummail.ad.olemiss.edu (unknown [172.16.1.141]) by umavas1.olemiss.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF55D0C350 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:23:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from EXCHANGE.ad.olemiss.edu ([fe80::8961:a9d0:3764:594c]) by ummail.ad.olemiss.edu ([fe80::6dca:802d:73cd:45ad%14]) with mapi id 14.01.0289.001; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:23:26 -0600 From: Errol Sayre To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Thread-Topic: Webmail for local system mail Thread-Index: AQHMphbIxKFBPFdsh0qab4dkvNlydA== Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:23:26 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [130.74.129.101] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <0A12FD1614256442846B74C98C018750@calendar.olemiss.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2011.11.18.170914 Subject: Webmail for local system mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:41:35 -0000 Does anyone know of a webmail product that can provide access to local syst= em accounts? Even if it's just a script that runs /usr/bin/mail on behalf o= f the user. I'd like a simple way to access local system emails without having to forwa= rd them to an actual mailbox somewhere.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 17:47:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A7D1065670 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:47:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65DC98FC14 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:47:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwg14 with SMTP id 14so5446852wwg.31 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:47:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.4.102 with SMTP id j6mr4246218wij.38.1321638459374; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:47:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.81.193 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:47:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EC69566.5060501@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <99414592-7FC7-4F24-8FEA-6F2F7B03551A@strauser.com> <6de19086dd1301d00679b0e51ca10a5b.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> <4EC69566.5060501@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:47:39 -0800 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Shouldn't GNU tar be ignoring /proc with --one-file-system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:47:40 -0000 On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > I find it quite astonishing that /proc would deliberately behave > differently to *every other* filesystem available. =A0The mountpoint > should belong to the filesystem mounted on it. I have an idea what you mean by "belong to" in this case and - if I'm right, you're wrong :-) A mount point has an inode in the parent filesystem, right? Good, glad we cleared that up. Unless you set the 'nodump' flag, and tell tar/gtar/tarsnap/dump to honor the flag, the archive will have an entry for the mount point. The 'one-file-system' flags tells gtar not to traverse mount points, but it will certainly see the mount point and include it in the archive, along with its modes, flags, atime, mtime, etc. etc. If those changed between the time if took a peek at the directory and the time it attempted to include it in the archive, you'll see those advisory warnings (which may be ignored in this case). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 18:02:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0F7106564A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:02:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814DC8FC15 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:02:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so5046199bkb.13 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:02:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3GeS2GmboeFB4DPClL9Iwl/WLAZa+DL11IUitWx30Ek=; b=jnyE9dZxDzkUKbS8jg9jmcFF+rHR3KvkJK8Re/mskcLUbWCgc4EcYPXDlANyW5WGbi Olk9eveqXMi/s04eSI7BF5v/QSNVZMz0oNBeksZC+3wEY9rE4SnI2IYvjI50rpr424Fz 8c6bt4JBGP47cGLy7kAW1krZVsiW+8lviHQNo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.152.66 with SMTP id f2mr4333153bkw.137.1321639332216; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:02:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.88.72 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:02:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:02:12 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Errol Sayre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Webmail for local system mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:02:14 -0000 On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Errol Sayre wrote: > Does anyone know of a webmail product that can provide access to local > system accounts? Even if it's just a script that runs /usr/bin/mail on > behalf of the user. > > I'd like a simple way to access local system emails without having to > forward them to an actual mailbox > somewhere._______________________________________________ > sysutils/webmin will work without much configuration. Some of the other more traditional one like squirrelmail will work as well, but some extra config may be required. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 19:05:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344901065672 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:05:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artemrts@ukr.net) Received: from ffe8.ukr.net (ffe8.ukr.net [195.214.192.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC5958FC0C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:05:32 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ukr.net; s=ffe; h=Date:Message-Id:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; bh=lQP8VsXkQS0MdMKKA9i0R2ny3z9IFDN7MzSPv9eEQuo=; b=T5VO7mmVoz1TzagPOpBKDgPGY0CR9XwjKrDOxlpqo9ygy7t/i6yyS6PNWiHP6VxkRZCbZvct7OuLcgChJ240B1YZjsHWeFch0SyN/aER2sXY2ThcV/rQr/ezTx4xADI/MtBVfZuKAOdHfZsDsS7nia9E+eEQZNn/TCj+G2WP/ic=; Received: from mail by ffe8.ukr.net with local ID 1RRTkg-0006kT-Pb ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:05:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" In-Reply-To: <4EC693FF.6020408@my.gd> References: <4EC693FF.6020408@my.gd> <13098.1321633372.14359838929050533888@ffe15.ukr.net> To: "Damien Fleuriot" From: =?WINDOWS-1251?B?wujy4Ovo6SDC6+Dk6Ozo8O7i6Pc=?= X-Mailer: freemail.ukr.net 4.0 X-Originating-Ip: [195.200.251.66] Message-Id: <25766.1321643130.16663586447952576512@ffe8.ukr.net> X-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/8.0 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:05:30 +0200 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: net.isr.direct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:05:33 -0000 --- Original message --- From: "Damien Fleuriot" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: 18 November 2011, 19:22:36 Subject: Re: net.isr.direct? > On 11/18/11 5:22 PM, Виталий Владимирович wrote: > > > > I am attempting to set below sysctls > > > > /boot/loader.conf > > net.isr.direct=1 > > net.isr.direct_force=1 > > > > but after rebut it still > > > > sysctl -a|grep isr > > > > net.isr.direct: 0 > > net.isr.direct_force: 0 > > > > Why it still zero? > > > > OS: FreeBSD-RC1 amd64 > > > I'm gonna assume you're running 9.0-RC1 Yes. > Have you tried setting your vars in /etc/sysctl.conf and rebooting ? But this is not runtime vars. It set only in loader.conf See on Calomel.org web site. https://calomel.org/network_performance.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 19:30:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7547F106564A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:30:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artemrts@ukr.net) Received: from ffe2.ukr.net (ffe2.ukr.net [195.214.192.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272EF8FC0A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:30:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ukr.net; s=ffe; h=Date:Message-Id:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; bh=hHgRPd5YQfkwzVaP3bUXGWprCSNLlav8+fIMX8q8YzA=; b=iHorz5a0L1pCbiwQWiogl7VTeKgCQ7mOVxSRaGtDUIOMrdJD504Za4GaDy4SG1keYl0u/ArqZjr5fXYi1Jr/C00MxrWD/ZlFmbAy+vO7ODiFrBWEWOpVJ3SOeIU48YDefiEuVn9AVNtpoPEMhMIZHi82EkgCnplt39GB8mI1wVk=; Received: from mail by ffe2.ukr.net with local ID 1RRU90-000PPE-UP ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:30:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" In-Reply-To: <4EC693FF.6020408@my.gd> References: <4EC693FF.6020408@my.gd> <13098.1321633372.14359838929050533888@ffe15.ukr.net> To: "Damien Fleuriot" From: =?WINDOWS-1251?B?wujy4Ovo6SDC6+Dk6Ozo8O7i6Pc=?= X-Mailer: freemail.ukr.net 4.0 X-Originating-Ip: [195.200.251.66] Message-Id: <97539.1321644638.6253321637031116800@ffe2.ukr.net> X-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/8.0 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:30:38 +0200 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: net.isr.direct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:30:41 -0000 --- Original message --- From: "Damien Fleuriot" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: 18 November 2011, 19:22:36 Subject: Re: net.isr.direct? > On 11/18/11 5:22 PM, Виталий Владимирович wrote: > > > > I am attempting to set below sysctls > > > > /boot/loader.conf > > net.isr.direct=1 > > net.isr.direct_force=1 > > > > but after rebut it still > > > > sysctl -a|grep isr > > > > net.isr.direct: 0 > > net.isr.direct_force: 0 > > > > Why it still zero? > > > > OS: FreeBSD-RC1 amd64 > I think this is because I am testing on VirtualBox, not on the live hardware machine? -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 19:30:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114A11065677 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from esayre@olemiss.edu) Received: from umavas4.olemiss.edu (umavas4.olemiss.edu [130.74.120.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFBCF8FC19 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:30:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from umavas4.olemiss.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 9758B624CE; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:30:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from ummail.ad.olemiss.edu (unknown [172.16.1.141]) by umavas4.olemiss.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7323556E7D; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:30:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from EXCHANGE.ad.olemiss.edu ([fe80::8961:a9d0:3764:594c]) by ummail.ad.olemiss.edu ([fe80::6dca:802d:73cd:45ad%14]) with mapi id 14.01.0289.001; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:30:50 -0600 From: Errol Sayre To: Adam Vande More Thread-Topic: Webmail for local system mail Thread-Index: AQHMphbIxKFBPFdsh0qab4dkvNlydJWzUMwAgAAYwwA= Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:30:49 +0000 Message-ID: <720E1255-53D3-4353-94E4-B9FE0E5EDD1D@olemiss.edu> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [130.74.129.101] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2011.11.18.191814 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Webmail for local system mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:30:56 -0000 Are you sure SquirrelMail will do this? I was under the impression (from th= eir requirements page) that it needs an IMAP backend. On Nov 18, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Errol Sayre wrote: > Does anyone know of a webmail product that can provide access to local sy= stem accounts? Even if it's just a script that runs /usr/bin/mail on behalf= of the user. >=20 > I'd like a simple way to access local system emails without having to for= ward them to an actual mailbox somewhere.__________________________________= _____________ >=20 > sysutils/webmin will work without much configuration. Some of the other = more traditional one like squirrelmail will work as well, but some extra co= nfig may be required. >=20 > --=20 > Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 19:44:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1880C1065673 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpistanbulbilisim@setrow.com) Received: from mgw02-45.relay02.setrow.com (mgw02-45.relay02.setrow.com [212.252.24.252]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183838FC16 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mgw02-45.relay02.setrow.com (PowerMTA(TM) v3.5r16) id hoqqo612p1c0 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:44:00 +0200 (envelope-from ) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:43:52 +0200 To: questions@freebsd.org From: =?utf-8?Q?=C4=B0stanbul_Bili=C5=9Fim?= Message-ID: <5da1ffe5608233076d87ee789251f102@www.setrow.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Setrow Importance: Normal Precedence: bulk X-MAIL-INFORMATION: 46000863-8034-270-Tr-0-questions@freebsd.org-1 Delivered-To: =?utf-8?Q?=C4=B0stanbul_Bili=C5=9Fim_?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: =?utf-8?q?Siz_aramay=C4=B1n_biz_sizin_i=C3=A7in_buluruz?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:44:04 -0000 Size =C3=B6zel b=C3=BClteni g=C3=B6rmek i=C3=A7in a=C5=9Fa=C4=9F=C4=B1daki = linke t=C4=B1klay=C4=B1n=C4=B1z:=20 T=C4=B1klay=C4=B1n=C4=B1z=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 19:50:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A5F10656D7 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:50:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F158FC19 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.magehandbook.com (unknown [192.168.1.100]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94C92F2 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:50:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from 152.121.16.254 (SquirrelMail authenticated user daniel) by www.magehandbook.com with HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:50:17 -0500 Message-ID: <853b56708e2e21e90c48aad75d84aae5.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <720E1255-53D3-4353-94E4-B9FE0E5EDD1D@olemiss.edu> References: <720E1255-53D3-4353-94E4-B9FE0E5EDD1D@olemiss.edu> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:50:17 -0500 From: "Daniel Staal" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Webmail for local system mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:50:19 -0000 On Fri, November 18, 2011 2:30 pm, Errol Sayre wrote: > Are you sure SquirrelMail will do this? I was under the impression (from > their requirements page) that it needs an IMAP backend. In which case you'll want an IMAP server that can serve the local system accounts. Not hard to set up. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 19:55:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74475106566B for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:55:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034C58FC08 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:55:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (pD9FBE183.dip.t-dialin.net [217.251.225.131]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id pAIJtb8R077920; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:55:38 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAIJtQXq016903; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:55:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pAIJtEOD029128; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:55:20 GMT (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201111181955.pAIJtEOD029128@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Errol Sayre From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:23:26 GMT." Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:55:14 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Webmail for local system mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:55:41 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Errol Sayre > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:23:26 +0000 > Message-id: Errol Sayre wrote: > Does anyone know of a webmail product that can provide access to local system accounts? Even if it's just a script that runs /usr/bin/mail on behalf of the user. Did you try /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail ? (Needs apache) Runs OK here. > I'd like a simple way to access local system emails without having to forward them to an actual mailbox somewhere._______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ". Format: Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 20:12:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73880106566B for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomc@bio.umass.edu) Received: from marlin.bio.umass.edu (marlin.bio.umass.edu [128.119.55.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297FF8FC08 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.30.55.86] (neutopia.bio.umass.edu [128.119.55.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by marlin.bio.umass.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pAIKCV3s006992 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:12:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4EC6BC2F.5030907@bio.umass.edu> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:12:31 -0500 From: Tom Carpenter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110922 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <005301cca2b7$add11f20$09735d60$@co.ke> <4EC13877.3070704@bio.umass.edu> In-Reply-To: <4EC13877.3070704@bio.umass.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (marlin.bio.umass.edu [128.119.55.19]); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:12:35 -0500 (EST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 128.119.55.19 Subject: Re: 8.2-RELEASE-p4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:12:36 -0000 Is it not possible/not intended for kernels to be updated via freebsd-update? If kernels can be updated via freebsd-update will there be a release of an fix/update that will allow systems to be patched/updated to -p4 or later? -Tom Carpenter > On 11/14/2011 05:25 AM, Evalyn wrote: >> It touches the kernel but you need to do make builkernel/make installkernel >> before uname -a shows "8.2-RELEASE-p4". >> >> Regards, >> Evalyn >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Seaman >> Sent: 12 November 2011 02:03 >> To: Robert Simmons >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: 8.2-RELEASE-p4 >> >> On 11/11/2011 21:03, Robert Simmons wrote: >>>> Note that if a security update is just to some userland programs, >>>>> freebsd-update won't touch the OS kernel, so the reported version >>>>> number doesn't change even though the update has been applied. In >>>>> these sort of cases, it's not necessary to reboot, just to restart >>>>> any long running processes (if any) affected by the update. The >>>>> security advisory should have more detailed instructions about >>>>> exactly what to do. (The -p2 to >>>>> -p3 update was like this, but the -p3 to -p4 update definitely did >>>>> affect the kernel so a reboot was necessary.) >>> I'm not confident that you are correct here. See above. Either p3-p4 >>> did not touch the kernel, or the OP has a legitimate question. >> Interesting. I based what I said on the text of the security advisories: >> >> http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-11:04.compress.asc >> http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-11:05.unix.asc >> >> Specifically the 'Corrected:' section near the top. I think it's clear that >> FreeBSD-SA-11:04.compress (Corrected in 8.2-RELEASE-p3) doesn't involve >> anything in the kernel but FreeBSD-SA-11:05.unix (Corrected in >> 8.2-RELEASE-p4) is entirely within the kernel code. Except those advisories >> aren't telling the whole story. >> >> Lets look at r226023 in SVN. That's the revision quoted in the 11.05 >> advisory. The log for newvers.sh in >> >> http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/releng/8.2/sys/conf/newvers.sh?view=log&pathr >> ev=226023 >> >> says that the patches in RELEASE-p4 were not actually the security fix >> -- rather they fixed a problem revealed by the actual security fix, which >> was applied simultaneously with the patches in FreeBSD-SA-11:04.compress. >> 11.05 was committed in two blobs spanning >> -p3 and -p4. >> >> So, the good news is that if you have at least 8.2-RELEASE-p3 then you don't >> have any (known) security holes. However if you don't have the patches in >> 8.2-RELEASE-p4 then linux apps run under emulation will crash if they use >> unix domain sockets. The flash plugin for FireFox being the most prominent >> example as I recall. >> >> Now the updates for -p4 certainly should have touched the kernel, and >> certainly should have resulted in an updated uname string[*]. There should >> also be a note about -p4 in /usr/src/UPDATING. Starting to wonder if the >> -p4 patches are actually available via freebsd-update(8) >> -- could they have been omitted because it wasn't actually a security fix? >> Odd that no one would have commented in a whole month if so. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Matthew >> >> >> >> [*] strings /boot/kernel/kernel | grep '8\.2-' should give the same >> results as uname(1): if it's different then the running kernel is not the >> same as the one on disk... >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 20:13:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F30C1065675 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22D68FC1E for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:13:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber6.nber.org (nber6.nber.org [66.251.72.76]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pAIKDAZs030897; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:13:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from localhost (feenberg@localhost) by nber6.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id pAIKBQVS004740; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:11:26 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: nber6.nber.org: feenberg owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:11:25 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Feenberg X-X-Sender: feenberg@nber6 To: Kirk Strauser In-Reply-To: <92484812-3407-4A4B-B1BB-E0B5F3EDD06C@strauser.com> Message-ID: References: <201111181727.pAIHR9XZ057564@mail.r-bonomi.com> <92484812-3407-4A4B-B1BB-E0B5F3EDD06C@strauser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20111118 #5754440, check: 20111118 clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: Shouldn't GNU tar be ignoring /proc with --one-file-system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:13:14 -0000 On Fri, 18 Nov 2011, Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Nov 18, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > >> See the output of 'mount(8)' for the names of all the mounted filesystems on >> your machine. > > $ mount | grep proc > procfs on /proc (procfs, local) > >> >> *NOTE*WELL* that '/proc' is *not* a separate filesystem. It is merely a >> _directory_ with a bunch of 'special' files in it. > > I'm confused here. In what way isn't /proc a separate filesystem? It's > even called "procfs". I just went to an 8.1 system as root and did: umount /proc and /proc dismounted leaving an empty directory in route. I then went mount /proc and /proc was mounted again, using the parameters in /etc/fstab. Surely that means that going from / to /proc is "crossing a filesystem boundary". To me that suggests it is a separate filesystem, and typically /proc is filled with stuff that you wouldn't want to recurse through, so I wouldn't think it a good candidate for special casing as non-mounted. Daniel Feenberg NBER > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 20:46:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8740106566C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:46:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward7.mail.yandex.net (forward7.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:202::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4112C8FC12 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp8.mail.yandex.net (smtp8.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.54]) by forward7.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id A82891C5D27; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 00:46:48 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1321649208; bh=1b82ixEJQPJ1yVSMsQp1nuH0zHYwmo7bh5ZsnUiC2yI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cNu1VyU07R8Js/u98iWzowPY4PJGJqSVRub//UxbFGZ+DyhvIn/DSNv/XNx64UNXO 9BJiGf3f5v7WMlV3Ukop14vwCDRzQS/hq7xfFzB7LeQCVwpJw2huFANrD0lzxb5WjG hcqrunFdSZiLdUTgv5gkd+htebuNLB/4JmLtv2Bw= Received: from smtp8.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp8.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 7A9DB1B603C9; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 00:46:48 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1321649208; bh=1b82ixEJQPJ1yVSMsQp1nuH0zHYwmo7bh5ZsnUiC2yI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cNu1VyU07R8Js/u98iWzowPY4PJGJqSVRub//UxbFGZ+DyhvIn/DSNv/XNx64UNXO 9BJiGf3f5v7WMlV3Ukop14vwCDRzQS/hq7xfFzB7LeQCVwpJw2huFANrD0lzxb5WjG hcqrunFdSZiLdUTgv5gkd+htebuNLB/4JmLtv2Bw= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp8.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id klXqbaYu-kmXq2Nme; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 00:46:48 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:46:41 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <511199002.20111118224641@yandex.ru> To: =?windows-1251?B?wujy4Ovo6SDC6+Dk6Ozo8O7i6Pc=?= In-Reply-To: <97539.1321644638.6253321637031116800@ffe2.ukr.net> References: <4EC693FF.6020408@my.gd> <13098.1321633372.14359838929050533888@ffe15.ukr.net> <97539.1321644638.6253321637031116800@ffe2.ukr.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Damien Fleuriot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: net.isr.direct? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:46:50 -0000 Здравствуйте, Виталий. Вы писали 18 ноября 2011 г., 21:30:38: ВВ> --- Original message --- ВВ> From: "Damien Fleuriot" ВВ> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org ВВ> Date: 18 November 2011, 19:22:36 ВВ> Subject: Re: net.isr.direct? ВВ> >> On 11/18/11 5:22 PM, Виталий Владимирович wrote: >> > >> > I am attempting to set below sysctls >> > >> > /boot/loader.conf >> > net.isr.direct=1 >> > net.isr.direct_force=1 >> > >> > but after rebut it still >> > >> > sysctl -a|grep isr >> > >> > net.isr.direct: 0 >> > net.isr.direct_force: 0 >> > >> > Why it still zero? >> > >> > OS: FreeBSD-RC1 amd64 >> ВВ> I think this is because I am testing on VirtualBox, not on the live hardware machine? very similar to, because of I am using that on: CURRENT-10 and have no problem. See start time output to console and see errors why it can not set those. #/etc/syslog.conf # uncomment this to log all writes to /dev/console to /var/log/console.log console.info /var/log/console.log -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 20:50:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB344106566B for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:50:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790338FC08 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:50:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pAIKoLWq012788 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:50:21 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk pAIKoLWq012788 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1321649421; bh=VuGswpHEwq33P8sX1L5sglgsJWm17dyVVhjlWWyTyFQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=yHjrEGHPIv4EutY9/JQqGLcCeSYAXqSCvGumjKd4s0o+EIonFOnyxFUmu660NtPhh OCmQ6sLV8F3/F68BhIDu56jtFF9/YZ6rXQV43vgVXT9krj7iXq93EOemwSwCMclCJ6 Ali1a5dlljaZ896ALTXLi5qOvGGTVZQZd6HQUXDI= Message-ID: <4EC6C506.2090206@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:50:14 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <005301cca2b7$add11f20$09735d60$@co.ke> <4EC13877.3070704@bio.umass.edu> <4EC6BC2F.5030907@bio.umass.edu> In-Reply-To: <4EC6BC2F.5030907@bio.umass.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig925EE7951DDE7CC4A57D16BF" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: 8.2-RELEASE-p4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:50:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig925EE7951DDE7CC4A57D16BF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 18/11/2011 20:12, Tom Carpenter wrote: > Is it not possible/not intended for kernels to be updated via > freebsd-update? If kernels can be updated via freebsd-update > will there be a release of an fix/update that will allow systems > to be patched/updated to -p4 or later? freebsd-update will certainly update your kernel for you, so long as you are using a standard GENERIC kernel from the install media or from a previous freebsd-update iteration. If you compile your own kernel, then freebsd-update will patch the kernel sources, but leave you to rebuild and reinstall your customized kernel. I don't know about the -p4 update. By rights it should have involved updating the kernel by one or other of the two methods shown. So far however, we've seen two reports questioning that[*] and none saying that the -p4 update did in fact update the kernel. Which is suspicious, but hardly conclusive. Cheers, Matthew [*] Stranger things have happened than admins compiling their own GENERIC kernels and then mistakenly thinking they were actually using the standard one from the install media[+]. Seeing a positive "it updated for me" would settle the question definitively. 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(v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <89326678.20111118230445@yandex.ru> To: Calomel Org In-Reply-To: <20111118171020.GB14714@calomel.org> References: <1937306754.20111118091855@yandex.ru> <20111118171020.GB14714@calomel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: freebsd tuning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:04:50 -0000 CO> Kes, CO> First, understand that the Realtek (re0) cards have significant CO> network problems when trying to saturate a network. If you have the CO> ability try switching to a Intel card (em0) for a lot better CO> performance, lower interrupts and less CPU usage. I know that problems with realtek. CO> Why interrupts are not handled by more CPUs than one? This is probably CO> the way the driver was built. It is a single processes which is using CO> the "big lock" method. This keeps all activity for the drive bound to CO> a single CPU core. # sysctl net.isr net.isr.maxthreads: 3 net.isr.direct: 0 net.isr.direct_force: 0 # sysctl -a | grep HZ options HZ=4000 # sysctl -a | grep hz kern.clockrate: { hz = 4000, tick = 250, profhz = 8128, stathz = 127 } kern.hz: 4000 #top -SIHP last pid: 54308; load averages: 1.08, 1.43, 1.55 up 0+13:17:32 22:49:42 211 processes: 5 running, 187 sleeping, 19 waiting CPU 0: 4.8% user, 0.0% nice, 14.3% system, 22.2% interrupt, 58.7% idle CPU 1: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 6.3% system, 22.2% interrupt, 71.4% idle CPU 2: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 11.1% system, 20.6% interrupt, 68.3% idle CPU 3: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 9.5% system, 17.5% interrupt, 73.0% idle Mem: 242M Active, 1731M Inact, 200M Wired, 316K Cache, 112M Buf, 1725M Free Swap: 4096M Total, 4096M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K CPU1 1 539:41 80.71% {idle: cpu1} 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K RUN 2 541:42 79.39% {idle: cpu2} 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K CPU3 3 546:52 78.81% {idle: cpu3} 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K CPU0 0 532:04 77.39% {idle: cpu0} 12 root -72 - 0K 152K WAIT 1 184:33 24.56% {swi1: netisr 2} 12 root -72 - 0K 152K WAIT 2 281:46 22.07% {swi1: netisr 0} 12 root -72 - 0K 152K WAIT 3 89:43 13.96% {swi1: netisr 3} 12 root -92 - 0K 152K WAIT 0 112:43 13.67% {irq256: re0} 13 root -16 - 0K 32K sleep 1 50:04 4.93% {ng_queue3} 13 root -16 - 0K 32K sleep 1 50:01 4.93% {ng_queue2} 13 root -16 - 0K 32K sleep 3 49:59 4.93% {ng_queue1} 13 root -16 - 0K 32K sleep 2 50:02 4.88% {ng_queue0} 6989 root 21 0 13408K 5576K select 0 17:37 2.39% snmpd 5523 root 20 0 76928K 52252K select 2 11:31 0.05% {mpd5} in this case I get *all* cpu work. I will watch for it: will it can process speed over 400Mbit. Before that was limit. I think this notices will be usefull for people with this NIC CO> or One CPU handle interrupts from one card, so I need two NICs?... Two CO> nics would be a very good idea. You will see better performance a less CO> IRQ splitting. CO> Why it is lowered by twice? The CPU load is when the CPU is busy and CO> can not be used by any other processes. This does _not_ mean that CO> processing is going on, just that the CPU is unavailable. IRQ's are CO> like locks and they keep the cpu from being use and hold on to the CO> cpu. So, irq256 is holding onto the cpu, but not actually processing CO> any data. This is not very efficient as you can see. this router process 300Mbit ease, but when it rise to 400Mbit and hold about 5 min it fall to 200Mbit. At 200Mbit can work easy! but it is like hooked and still 100% loaded. other 3CPUs have many idle time. twice fall I think binded to TCP stack: it see loses and try to send data twice slower CO> Try changing cards to an Intel variety and use two nics in total; one CO> for incoming connections and one for outgoing. On the network CO> performace page we specify the cards we are currently using. Intel CO> PRO/1000 GT PCI PWLA8391GT can be found on newegg for as little as $31 CO> each. I have Intel, but I you say: it is unnecessary to buy expensive hard in many cases budged solution work very well. =) CO> Hope this helps. Thank you. Hope to see this notices in the article and will happy if that help to other peoples. Thank you again. CO> -- CO> Calomel @ https://calomel.org CO> Open Source Research and Reference CO> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 02:41:15AM -0500, ??????? ??????? wrote: >>Hi. >> >>FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #4: Fri Jun 10 01:30:12 UTC 2011 :/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PAE_KES i386 >> >> >>I have some quiestions about FreeBSD tunig https://calomel.org/network_performance.html >> >>I have re0 Gigabit Ethernet NIC(NDIS 6.0) (RTL8168/8111/8111c) and core i3 2100 >>and two vlans on it: the one for incoming and the other for outgoing packets. >> >>#top -SIHP >>last pid: 14902; load averages: 1.92, 2.12, 1.96 up 0+17:47:31 19:59:04 >>226 processes: 12 running, 197 sleeping, 17 waiting >>CPU 0: 0.6% user, 0.0% nice, 1.2% system, 88.3% interrupt, 9.8% idle >>CPU 1: 1.8% user, 0.0% nice, 29.4% system, 0.0% interrupt, 68.7% idle >>CPU 2: 3.7% user, 0.0% nice, 30.7% system, 0.0% interrupt, 65.6% idle >>CPU 3: 3.1% user, 0.0% nice, 25.8% system, 0.0% interrupt, 71.2% idle >>Mem: 264M Active, 1641M Inact, 272M Wired, 832K Cache, 112M Buf, 1721M Free >>Swap: 4096M Total, 4096M Free >> >> PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND >> 12 root -92 - 0K 152K CPU0 0 354:30 96.78% {irq256: re0} >> 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K RUN 1 929:16 77.83% {idle: cpu1} >> 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K RUN 3 922:41 72.95% {idle: cpu3} >> 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K RUN 2 904:02 71.63% {idle: cpu2} >> 13 root -16 - 0K 32K CPU3 1 71:11 18.65% {ng_queue1} >> 13 root -16 - 0K 32K RUN 1 71:10 18.36% {ng_queue3} >> 13 root -16 - 0K 32K RUN 3 71:18 17.63% {ng_queue0} >> 13 root -16 - 0K 32K RUN 1 71:11 17.14% {ng_queue2} >> 11 root 155 ki31 0K 32K RUN 0 682:25 10.55% {idle: cpu0} >>55709 root 20 0 13408K 5840K select 2 15:50 1.71% snmpd >>14902 cacti 33 0 11960K 3480K select 1 0:00 1.12% snmpget >>14864 cacti 46 0 11116K 2836K piperd 3 0:00 1.12% perl5.10.1 >>14867 root 46 0 9728K 1956K select 3 0:00 1.12% sudo >> >>as you can see irq256 take all CPU0 time and packets that travel >>through router have a lose about 5-10%, CPU100% loaded when trafic >>achive 400Mbit/s and then lower as twice >> >>Now questions >>1. Why interrupts are not handled by more CPUs than one? >> >>2. or One CPU handle interrupts from one card, so I need two NICs?... >> >>3. Why it is lowered by twice? >> >>Thank you. >> -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 21:07:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F48106566B for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:07:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from esayre@olemiss.edu) Received: from umavas4.olemiss.edu (umavas4.olemiss.edu [130.74.120.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74FB8FC19 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:07:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from umavas4.olemiss.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 074455606F for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:07:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from ummail.ad.olemiss.edu (unknown [172.16.1.141]) by umavas4.olemiss.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF7F563A4 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:07:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from EXCHANGE.ad.olemiss.edu ([fe80::8961:a9d0:3764:594c]) by ummail.ad.olemiss.edu ([fe80::6dca:802d:73cd:45ad%14]) with mapi id 14.01.0289.001; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:07:24 -0600 From: Errol Sayre To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Thread-Topic: Webmail for local system mail Thread-Index: AQHMpjYRuYgVy/g42Eigffw5/6DNzQ== Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:07:23 +0000 Message-ID: <02BA6FAF-84C7-43CC-AD1E-686F1A2C65A3@olemiss.edu> References: <201111181955.pAIJtEOD029128@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: <201111181955.pAIJtEOD029128@fire.js.berklix.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [130.74.129.101] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 5.6.1.2065439, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2011.11.18.205415 Subject: Re: Webmail for local system mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:07:28 -0000 On Nov 18, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Did you try /usr/ports/mail/openwebmail ? (Needs apache) Runs OK here. I didn't, but I think Webmin's Read Mail module will do all that I need, pl= us it has some other niceties. Thanks everyone!= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 21:10:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82D4106567C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomc@bio.umass.edu) Received: from marlin.bio.umass.edu (marlin.bio.umass.edu [128.119.55.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D988FC1B for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.30.55.86] (neutopia.bio.umass.edu [128.119.55.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by marlin.bio.umass.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pAILAYEw012448 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:10:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4EC6C9CA.1010105@bio.umass.edu> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:10:34 -0500 From: Tom Carpenter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110922 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <005301cca2b7$add11f20$09735d60$@co.ke> <4EC13877.3070704@bio.umass.edu> <4EC6BC2F.5030907@bio.umass.edu> <4EC6C506.2090206@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4EC6C506.2090206@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (marlin.bio.umass.edu [128.119.55.19]); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:10:38 -0500 (EST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 128.119.55.19 Subject: Re: 8.2-RELEASE-p4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:10:39 -0000 So, I've run freebsd-update fetch/install a few times since I posed my original question, but my system remains at 8.2-RELEASE-p3. Have I done all that I should to get word to those that would be able to correct the problem? Is there communication channel I should use to report this? On 11/18/2011 03:50 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 18/11/2011 20:12, Tom Carpenter wrote: >> Is it not possible/not intended for kernels to be updated via >> freebsd-update? If kernels can be updated via freebsd-update >> will there be a release of an fix/update that will allow systems >> to be patched/updated to -p4 or later? > freebsd-update will certainly update your kernel for you, so long as you > are using a standard GENERIC kernel from the install media or from a > previous freebsd-update iteration. > > If you compile your own kernel, then freebsd-update will patch the > kernel sources, but leave you to rebuild and reinstall your customized > kernel. > > I don't know about the -p4 update. By rights it should have involved > updating the kernel by one or other of the two methods shown. So far > however, we've seen two reports questioning that[*] and none saying that > the -p4 update did in fact update the kernel. Which is suspicious, but > hardly conclusive. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > [*] Stranger things have happened than admins compiling their own > GENERIC kernels and then mistakenly thinking they were actually using > the standard one from the install media[+]. Seeing a positive "it > updated for me" would settle the question definitively. > > [+] Not that I believe for one minute that anyone in this thread is > sufferring from that sort of memory lapse. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 21:16:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C7A106566B for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056F28FC0C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:16:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id pAILGmri042502 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:16:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id pAILGmfX042501; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:16:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA06578; Fri, 18 Nov 11 13:08:41 PST Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:08:23 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: kirk@strauser.com Message-Id: <4ec72bb7.60UNRXR3r2vSHeGC%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <201111181727.pAIHR9XZ057564@mail.r-bonomi.com> <92484812-3407-4A4B-B1BB-E0B5F3EDD06C@strauser.com> In-Reply-To: <92484812-3407-4A4B-B1BB-E0B5F3EDD06C@strauser.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com Subject: Re: Shouldn't GNU tar be ignoring /proc with --one-file-system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:16:50 -0000 Kirk Strauser wrote: > On Nov 18, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > > See the output of 'mount(8)' for the names of all the mounted > > filesystems on your machine. > > $ mount | grep proc > procfs on /proc (procfs, local) > > > *NOTE*WELL* that '/proc' is *not* a separate filesystem. It > > is merely a _directory_ with a bunch of 'special' files in it. > > I'm confused here. In what way isn't /proc a separate filesystem? > It's even called "procfs". It's Bonomi who is confused. I suspect he doesn't have procfs configured -- so of course its mountpoint is just a directory -- *on his system*. The OP _does_ have procfs configured, or the question wouldn't have arisen. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 21:16:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0578E106566B for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:16:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2478FC12 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id pAILGptN042525 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:16:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id pAILGpPW042524; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:16:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA06631; Fri, 18 Nov 11 13:11:03 PST Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:10:45 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: esayre@olemiss.edu Message-Id: <4ec72c45.hSiwNLKKW0mrpeHz%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Webmail for local system mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:16:53 -0000 Errol Sayre wrote: > Does anyone know of a webmail product that can provide access > to local system accounts? Even if it's just a script that runs > /usr/bin/mail on behalf of the user. > > I'd like a simple way to access local system emails without > having to forward them to an actual mailbox somewhere. Er, /var/mail/$USER _is_ "an actual mailbox". Depending on what mechanism the webmail client(s) use to access mailboxes, you might need to install a POP or IMAP server. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 20:50:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3949510656D3 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terrence@mediamonks.net) Received: from mail.mediamonks.net (mail.mediamonks.net [217.195.117.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5968FC1F for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:50:48 +0000 (UTC) X-CGP-Sophos: Scanned and found clean X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse reports about this email to abuse@mediamonks.net Received: from [145.99.104.70] (account terrence@mediamonks.com) by mail.mediamonks.net (CommuniGate Pro IMAP 5.4.1) with XMIT id 7978295; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:20:44 +0100 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:20:43 +0100 Organization: MediaMonks B.V. Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <6de19086dd1301d00679b0e51ca10a5b.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Thread-Topic: Shouldn't GNU tar be ignoring /proc with --one-file-system? Priority: Normal Importance: normal X-MSMail-Priority: normal X-Priority: 3 Sensitivity: Normal Thread-Index: AcymL4vxSc99wGyJQNmE8W9gF/GCxA== From: "Terrence Koeman" To: "Daniel Staal" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro MAPI Connector 1.52.54.6/1.54.0.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:28:54 +0000 Cc: Subject: RE: Shouldn't GNU tar be ignoring /proc with --one-file-system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:50:49 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Staal > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 18:00 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Shouldn't GNU tar be ignoring /proc with --one-file- > system? > > > On Fri, November 18, 2011 10:34 am, Kirk Strauser wrote: > > I use Amanda to make nightly backups of a bunch of servers using GNU > tar. > > However, gtar doesn't seem to respect its --one-file-system flag with > > /proc. Amanda runs a variation of this command: > > > > # /usr/local/bin/gtar --create --file - --directory / > > --one-file-system --sparse --ignore-failed-read --totals . > > /dev/null > > /usr/local/bin/gtar: ./proc: file changed as we read it > > > > Before I file a bug report, can anyone think of a legitimate reason > why > > gtar would be touching /proc at all? > > Just a guess, really but: > > /proc is a file on /. /proc/* are files on /proc. The former is still > on > the root filesystem (if only as a directory stub to be used as a > mountpoint), so reading it isn't leaving that filesystem. Reading > anything *in* it would be. > > Just a thought. > However, the file /proc on fs / should not be changing since a filesystem /= proc is mounted over it. The message "./proc: file changed as we read it" i= ndicates whatever /proc it is trying to read did change... -- Regards, T. Koeman, MTh/BSc/BPsy; Technical Monk MediaMonks B.V. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 21:49:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065FA106564A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:49:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from iamlegend.mr.itd.umich.edu (iamlegend.mr.itd.umich.edu [141.211.14.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9168FC13 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:49:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.14.81]) By iamlegend.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4EC6CDB9.C088E.25727 ; 18 Nov 2011 16:27:21 EST Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4EC6CDB8.26056.13468 ; Authuser web; 18 Nov 2011 16:27:20 EST Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:27:19 -0500 From: William Bulley To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111118212719.GE8967@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: where to ask about problems with bsdinstall in 9.0RC2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:49:45 -0000 I tried to install 9.0RC2 from the DVD ISO today. This defaults to using bsdinstall instead of the 8.x sysinstall. This process gave me an error, but I'm not sure in which forum to discuss this problem/error. Thanks in advance. Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 22:24:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07608106564A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:24:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83CE8FC15 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:24:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iakl21 with SMTP id l21so6193379iak.13 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:24:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=X50JtHQWt5pqNsyezINZFskm5IMrOqhmI9AJkzo57bE=; b=CCXkXaf6FXBa+3XNWPlXEgOhiwP3pIJ5u2+/ZiT295unRAhRNLt0cW9DGjREdsHBpv 45rmFZ2l7Hb70aFPgL61MAPC8fNV6Y+9ZHYCKxwy9D6pCfprSTyCkxzPnwv3Pl+vp1uh aRjIxFYlNWVDRLGL6sb7ppM60r808xJR9wKMY= Received: by 10.43.52.136 with SMTP id vm8mr3106233icb.26.1321655083253; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:24:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com. [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p16sm7973724ibk.6.2011.11.18.14.24.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:24:39 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:24:31 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.7.2; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201111181624.31285.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: FreeBSD 9.0 RC-2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:24:44 -0000 Hi! I had a problem with memory on y computer with 8.2 and there are some mess. I like to install "fresh" FreeBSD 9.0. Is it safe to install RC-2 or is better to wait to the final release, please? Thanks in advance. Mitja -------- http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 22:39:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD893106566C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:39:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E91B8FC12 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:39:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbg20 with SMTP id g20so1341279ghb.13 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:39:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.145.72 with SMTP id o48mr8166949yhj.86.1321655976962; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:39:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from papi.localnet ([177.98.22.143]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i50sm2742876yhk.11.2011.11.18.14.39.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:39:36 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Lobo To: "C. P. Ghost" Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:40:04 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-STABLE; KDE/4.6.2; amd64; ; ) References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> In-Reply-To: X-KMail-Markup: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201111181940.04179.lobo@bsd.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us (FINAL - moving to freebsd-chat) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:39:37 -0000 On Friday 18 November 2011 13:13:33 C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: > > My apologies to all for this, specially to those who already know about > > this and those who think too little of it. > > > > I am really worried about this: > > > > http://americancensorship.org/ > > Mario, I couldn't agree more and it's a very important topic. > But PLEASE let's take this thread to freebsd-chat@. It *really* > doesn't belong here. > > Thanks, > -cpghost. I'll re-post there. I wasn't subscribed to chat. Again, my apologies.. Best wishes, -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99% winblows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 22:42:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917BE106564A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F7A8FC1D for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:42:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pAIMfwU2014473 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:41:59 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk pAIMfwU2014473 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1321656119; bh=HQveDWN1fBdRHQvJQxdLiemEqfWlV/GEFCZDFcodTZo=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=I4aEmDxMkU2iReUrGaBeHcdWPkpV9QIwaym7wGZHK5+EyFZ2DAm2PAQQ03phup9bp ObYiPFxOHVD+jlgdKeBxf7vTxHg6Voi5+JK4Mg7TlXyxSm/4rTyWgml55R6xz11c6+ 8zhd4EqtU0eqlMy3x8nrkO+YgkLd7uohe931ygLM= Message-ID: <4EC6DF2B.90003@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:41:47 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20111118212719.GE8967@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> In-Reply-To: <20111118212719.GE8967@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1EC143E4AF5EA04F027D14B5" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: where to ask about problems with bsdinstall in 9.0RC2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:42:03 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1EC143E4AF5EA04F027D14B5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 18/11/2011 21:27, William Bulley wrote: > I tried to install 9.0RC2 from the DVD ISO today. This defaults > to using bsdinstall instead of the 8.x sysinstall. >=20 > This process gave me an error, but I'm not sure in which forum > to discuss this problem/error. Thanks in advance. freesd-questions@ is fine to talk about this sort of problem. At least, initially. Give us more detail on exactly what you did, what then happened, (and maybe why you think that was wrong) and we can probably help you get your system installed. If it turns out to be a bug in the new installer rather than operator error, then freebsd-current@ is the place to take it. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig1EC143E4AF5EA04F027D14B5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7G3zUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzx8ACfX51SID+AgRQ9EN5elr4eMgBy O+QAmwQnqRUMVTLQ7kLCucNYmVcY50kS =GYTO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig1EC143E4AF5EA04F027D14B5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 22:51:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52767106566B for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:51:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A168FC13 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:51:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pAIMpeJs014616 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:51:40 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk pAIMpeJs014616 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1321656700; bh=agm1CO2MJ0H7O71EcGzLhQsGkgoGZEZaTErLzNH9rVY=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=COVK2NFT/zeQM0x2uXKd+ll1WNCL3V8iUYrGjDgIYkiTRns7GUPokfPMzErcGZ9c9 Luw0OAxcDktgBajN+8Slvg0GNlHdtdetPL32yuk6Zk1gd0LaOF3LXbRgWYAoscR3gO IMTUVsvoJgslDYnojNA0EmZja596ILvZbx2654c8= Message-ID: <4EC6E17B.1080503@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:51:39 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201111181624.31285.lumiwa@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201111181624.31285.lumiwa@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBEBB4F352D5C7521A4E1421C" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.0 RC-2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:51:45 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBEBB4F352D5C7521A4E1421C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 18/11/2011 22:24, ajtiM wrote: > I had a problem with memory on y computer with 8.2 and there are some m= ess. I=20 > like to install "fresh" FreeBSD 9.0. Is it safe to install RC-2 or is b= etter=20 > to wait to the final release, please? 9.0-RC2 is (probably) going to be very similar indeed to the eventual 9.0-RELEASE. There will be some bug fixes yet to go in, but it is unlikely these will be show-stoppers. RC2 is not "unsafe" and there's no reason not to install it for learning or evaluation or development purposes. I wouldn't advise using it for anything your livelihood depends on though. Plan on upgrading to -RELEASE as soon as possible if you do play with -RC2. However, you're unlikely to have a pleasant experience if you've got dodgy RAM in your machine. All bets are off if the computer cannot rely on getting the correct data back from RAM. I wouldn't even try booting up a live CD unless the memory problems have been fixed. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigBEBB4F352D5C7521A4E1421C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7G4XwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyUOQCfc8MTVkf+acGZh8X+en0Coziw k3AAmwVVtjHyhjbOQUSbJ62LzYCT/z8U =pKJk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigBEBB4F352D5C7521A4E1421C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 23:00:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266EA106564A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.12.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53E38FC0A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4EC6E371.4684C.16730 ; Authuser web; 18 Nov 2011 18:00:01 EST Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:00:01 -0500 From: William Bulley To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20111118230001.GJ8967@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where to ask about problems with bsdinstall in 9.0RC2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:00:03 -0000 According to Matthew Seaman on Fri, 11/18/11 at 17:41: > On 18/11/2011 21:27, William Bulley wrote: > > I tried to install 9.0RC2 from the DVD ISO today. This defaults > > to using bsdinstall instead of the 8.x sysinstall. > > > > This process gave me an error, but I'm not sure in which forum > > to discuss this problem/error. Thanks in advance. > > freesd-questions@ is fine to talk about this sort of problem. At least, > initially. Give us more detail on exactly what you did, what then > happened, (and maybe why you think that was wrong) and we can probably > help you get your system installed. > > If it turns out to be a bug in the new installer rather than operator > error, then freebsd-current@ is the place to take it. Okay, here goes. :-) I was loading a decent but somewhat older Dell laptop with FreeBSD for a friend who bailed since he didn't want to bother configuring Xorg. Since this is fairly trivial these days, I said, "sure, I'd do that for you" - silly me... :-( Anyway, do to the user requirements, I found it necessary to load a version 9.x system on this laptop. I burned this version to DVD: FreeBSD-9.0-RC2-i386-dvd1.iso The laptop had no trouble booting from this DVD. Unfortunately, I forgot about the new bsdinstall program. I was dubious but it seemed to start out okay. I had some User Interface issues with the Manual disk partition screen, but that is a matter of taste or a feature request, and not the bug. Everything progressed just fine as the various *.txz files were loaded, checked and installed. Or so it seemed... As the progress bar moved to the right toward 100% completion, a window popped up telling me that it (bsdinstall) could not handle the base.txz (BTW, what does the suffix ".txz" mean?) - it could not uncompress it and said something about "unable to write" and the string was something like: "var/base.txz" (note the lack of a leading slash in front of "var"). It asked me if I wanted to continue or restart and I said "yes", but the bsdinstall started over from scratch and failed in the same manner. Unfortunately I had to bail on the attempt... :-( Prior to this, I had loaded and configured 8.2-RELEASE and had upgraded it to 8.2-STABLE. I csup'd the ports tree and built enough ports to run Xorg. And I got X11 running after a bit. But when I tried to upgrade again to 9.x (anything) I ran into problems there (slips my mind why at present) which led me to trying the FreeBSD-9.0-RC2-i386-dvd1.iso approach. What a mess... :-( Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 18 23:50:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4DD106564A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:50:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4398FC0C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:50:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbg20 with SMTP id g20so1407749ghb.13 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:50:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nWGWUcMtsPJbVDT9N40i2DOmT0l4htGOTyyAP/FVU84=; b=Wm324nZFcGON6JcISusgmXjwJ0xsBVomdzh76daWW/TckDnGQ5gUBwYOVUQT2PRlDM AefUJ2GeXZX4OKHpLnAoJTDcED4YNMwnavHWxoeRjZSlri+Yr3o4Q8rcAeIlDizZ/hwG nbnNJA2+6pHq4Dm0a4+USb+xWaXyDQo4oZfnY= Received: by 10.50.163.97 with SMTP id yh1mr5139874igb.37.1321660252099; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:50:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bu33sm8695450ibb.11.2011.11.18.15.50.50 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:50:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC6FE1A.2040207@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:53:46 -0800 From: Edward Martinez User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.2.20) Gecko/20110804 Thunderbird/3.1.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Bulley References: <20111118230001.GJ8967@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> In-Reply-To: <20111118230001.GJ8967@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: where to ask about problems with bsdinstall in 9.0RC2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:50:53 -0000 On 11/18/11 15:00, William Bulley wrote: > According to Matthew Seaman on Fri, 11/18/11 at 17:41: >> On 18/11/2011 21:27, William Bulley wrote: >>> I tried to install 9.0RC2 from the DVD ISO today. This defaults >>> to using bsdinstall instead of the 8.x sysinstall. >>> >>> This process gave me an error, but I'm not sure in which forum >>> to discuss this problem/error. Thanks in advance. >> freesd-questions@ is fine to talk about this sort of problem. At least, >> initially. Give us more detail on exactly what you did, what then >> happened, (and maybe why you think that was wrong) and we can probably >> help you get your system installed. >> >> If it turns out to be a bug in the new installer rather than operator >> error, then freebsd-current@ is the place to take it. > Okay, here goes. :-) > > I was loading a decent but somewhat older Dell laptop with FreeBSD > for a friend who bailed since he didn't want to bother configuring > Xorg. Since this is fairly trivial these days, I said, "sure, I'd > do that for you" - silly me... :-( > > Anyway, do to the user requirements, I found it necessary to load > a version 9.x system on this laptop. I burned this version to DVD: > > FreeBSD-9.0-RC2-i386-dvd1.iso > > The laptop had no trouble booting from this DVD. Unfortunately, I > forgot about the new bsdinstall program. I was dubious but it seemed > to start out okay. I had some User Interface issues with the Manual > disk partition screen, but that is a matter of taste or a feature > request, and not the bug. > > Everything progressed just fine as the various *.txz files were > loaded, checked and installed. Or so it seemed... > > As the progress bar moved to the right toward 100% completion, a > window popped up telling me that it (bsdinstall) could not handle > the base.txz (BTW, what does the suffix ".txz" mean?) - it could > not uncompress it and said something about "unable to write" and > the string was something like: "var/base.txz" (note the lack of > a leading slash in front of "var"). > > It asked me if I wanted to continue or restart and I said "yes", > but the bsdinstall started over from scratch and failed in the > same manner. > > Unfortunately I had to bail on the attempt... :-( > > Prior to this, I had loaded and configured 8.2-RELEASE and had > upgraded it to 8.2-STABLE. I csup'd the ports tree and built > enough ports to run Xorg. And I got X11 running after a bit. > > But when I tried to upgrade again to 9.x (anything) I ran into > problems there (slips my mind why at present) which led me to > trying the FreeBSD-9.0-RC2-i386-dvd1.iso approach. What a mess... :-( > > Regards, > > web... > Have you tried installing with "ACPI" disabled. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-install-trouble.html#Q3.10.2.1. this also may be of some help: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-partitioning.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 00:08:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1713D106564A for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 00:08:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.14.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66F78FC15 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 00:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4EC6F376.98A64.22427 ; Authuser web; 18 Nov 2011 19:08:22 EST Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:08:22 -0500 From: William Bulley To: Edward Martinez Message-ID: <20111119000822.GK8967@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Edward Martinez , FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: where to ask about problems with bsdinstall in 9.0RC2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 00:08:24 -0000 According to Edward Martinez on Fri, 11/18/11 at 19:53: > > Have you tried installing with "ACPI" disabled. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-install-trouble.html#Q3.10.2.1. > > this also may be of some help: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-partitioning.html Thanks. I will try disabling "ACPI" but this wasn't necessary for the install of 8.2-RELEASE from CD which, as I said, went in just as I expected. I would not think that much would have changed in 9.0RC2 in this area. Maybe I am wrong about that. The second URL describes the Manual vs. Guided install and partition section of bsdinstall. I had read this several days before the 9.0RC2 install attempt from DVD. It seemed pretty reasonable, but a little bit different from sysinstall. Was worth a try. What I saw when I selected Manual partitioning, was a complete tree: ad0 ad0s1 [FreeBSD Boot Manager from 8.2] ad0s1a xxxx [was my previous root partition] ad0s1d xxxx [was my previous swap partition] ad0s1d xxxx [was my previous /var partition] ad0s1e xxxx [was my previous /usr partition] or something very close to that, missing only my mount points from my previous 8.2-STABLE system. I added the mount points (this is the area where I thought bsdinstall had some weaknesses in the "User Experience") and went on after selecting "Finish". The problem occurred much later after I selected all four install files. When I said the equivalent of "Go", it began the process of loading them off the DVD, checking their checksums, and compressing them prior to installing them. It was while processing the first (base.txz) chunk that the popup appeared giving me the "unable to write" or "unable to uncompress" message. Can't recall the exact error now some hours later... :-( So the extraction step failed the first file, and I never made it to the Post-Installation phase, sigh... :-( Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 01:49:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B56D106566C for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 01:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FC28FC13 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 01:49:18 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=UqOFKX1L6EXQdVPAHL6XBNgsH/cDIRCLOtXz8cmp5C4=; b=JC3jJxvxZCzmx9KQtqCreCHLEIoWnlxqoi6bp2phqEDlZhDygeimk5cHkUbwcvZhgnmxr3dG8KWM5aJ2XD6po3WSKqy7zRM//opdZNMI+TM8WpVm/qeXdo9x8PBQABf5pIkiKEUzh6xLkca0Ak+DM5OhR3mmMM4CrebPYSpJxKc= Received: from [192.168.1.104] ([120.29.65.225]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:49:18 -0800 Message-ID: <4EC70B1A.2080907@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:49:14 +0800 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Snoop References: <1321600146.37903.4.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> In-Reply-To: <1321600146.37903.4.camel@blackfriar.inhio.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2011 01:49:19.0153 (UTC) FILETIME=[73C79210:01CCA65D] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LAGG and Jails? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 01:49:19 -0000 Snoop wrote: > Does anyone know if it's possible to configure lagg for network > redundancy on a FreeBSD server containing jails? I'm having problems > with that. I couldn't found much around therefore I'm not even sure it's > "doable". > > Thanks in advance, any tip will be appreciated. > > > > -- > Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f > > Sponsor: > ING DIRECT Conto Arancio. 4,20% per 12 mesi, zero spese, aprilo in due minuti! > Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11921&d=18-11 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > The host system controls the network not the jail. Running LAGG in a jail will not work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 02:02:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3ACB106566C for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 02:02:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75918FC0A for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 02:02:38 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; s=DKIM-NAME-SERVICES; d=a1poweruser.com; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:X-Sender:X-Envelope-From; l=500; bh=M48c/NhM3SY/txADgkByLYTM4OTtNnt4X612QBEE1F4=; b=DOJ11xLiuRCx6ukAqmllxc7c2wXelCE+THsYDwqE4yrOS+e/G2Ft8vIjKqRWCFoGVAjR84oCjgP1+0skO/k9ZFZb62MhZr9S2/s9uuEflk7JvPVTF+PNkV2l5dGg/m1a6ACdK1rvheW3p740A6t+paBL9n1Z8zwbaLtWYNA+kZ8= Received: from [192.168.1.104] ([120.29.65.225]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:02:38 -0800 Message-ID: <4EC70E3A.7010209@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:02:34 +0800 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edward Martinez , FreeBSD Questions References: <20111119000822.GK8967@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> In-Reply-To: <20111119000822.GK8967@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2011 02:02:38.0352 (UTC) FILETIME=[5023A900:01CCA65F] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Envelope-From: fbsd8*a1poweruser.com Cc: Subject: Re: where to ask about problems with bsdinstall in 9.0RC2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 02:02:38 -0000 William Bulley wrote: > According to Edward Martinez on Fri, 11/18/11 at 19:53: >> Have you tried installing with "ACPI" disabled. >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-install-trouble.html#Q3.10.2.1. >> >> this also may be of some help: >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-partitioning.html > > Thanks. > > I will try disabling "ACPI" but this wasn't necessary for the install > of 8.2-RELEASE from CD which, as I said, went in just as I expected. > > I would not think that much would have changed in 9.0RC2 in this area. > Maybe I am wrong about that. > > The second URL describes the Manual vs. Guided install and partition > section of bsdinstall. I had read this several days before the 9.0RC2 > install attempt from DVD. It seemed pretty reasonable, but a little bit > different from sysinstall. Was worth a try. > > What I saw when I selected Manual partitioning, was a complete tree: > > ad0 > ad0s1 [FreeBSD Boot Manager from 8.2] > ad0s1a xxxx [was my previous root partition] > ad0s1d xxxx [was my previous swap partition] > ad0s1d xxxx [was my previous /var partition] > ad0s1e xxxx [was my previous /usr partition] > > or something very close to that, missing only my mount points from my > previous 8.2-STABLE system. I added the mount points (this is the area > where I thought bsdinstall had some weaknesses in the "User Experience") > and went on after selecting "Finish". > > The problem occurred much later after I selected all four install files. > When I said the equivalent of "Go", it began the process of loading them > off the DVD, checking their checksums, and compressing them prior to > installing them. It was while processing the first (base.txz) chunk > that the popup appeared giving me the "unable to write" or "unable to > uncompress" message. Can't recall the exact error now some hours later... :-( > > So the extraction step failed the first file, and I never made it to > the Post-Installation phase, sigh... :-( > > Regards, > > web... > I think you have under sized /usr and the uncompress ran out of space during the install. Start over again, wipe the disk clean (ie: delete all slices)and re-allocate your slices with larger space allocations. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 03:07:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F3B106566B for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4FD18FC0A for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:07:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pAJ378s2008601; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:07:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id pAJ377J3008598; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:07:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:07:07 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Xihong Yin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:07:08 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: network problem on 8.2 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:07:09 -0000 On Fri, 18 Nov 2011, Xihong Yin wrote: > I set the adapter up. > > Here is the output of 'dhclient em0' > > DHCPREQUEST on em0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 > DHCPACK from 192.168.3.1 > bound to 192.168.3.41 -- renewal in 1800 seconds. > > 'ifconfig em0' output is > > em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > options=219b > ether 00:26:b9:9d:30:dc > inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 255.255.255.255 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > > 'netstat -r' show there is no default route > > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > 0.0.0.0 link#1 U 0 0 em0 > localhost link#14 UH 0 28 lo0 > > But I can set the adapter manually by > > $ifconfig em0 inet 192.168.3.41/24 > > and it works. > > The question is why dhclient can't get the ip address even a lease is > obtained. New to me. Does the machine have any unusual settings, like a non-default securelevel? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 02:24:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C7F106564A for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 02:24:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xyin@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-us.mail.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 252208FC14 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 02:24:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 19 Nov 2011 02:24:51 -0000 Received: from pool-173-64-118-99.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net (EHLO dell2) [173.64.118.99] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us008) with SMTP; 18 Nov 2011 21:24:51 -0500 X-Authenticated: #50283380 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1808ycKLlw0i6+ZmyqbV+PMI4Jw5DiJnTmm5Hxgo5 UZIsodN8tUw5rg Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:24:57 -0500 (EST) From: Xihong Yin To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:27:35 +0000 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: network problem on 8.2 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 02:24:53 -0000 I set the adapter up. Here is the output of 'dhclient em0' DHCPREQUEST on em0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 DHCPACK from 192.168.3.1 bound to 192.168.3.41 -- renewal in 1800 seconds. 'ifconfig em0' output is em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=219b ether 00:26:b9:9d:30:dc inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 255.255.255.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active 'netstat -r' show there is no default route Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 0.0.0.0 link#1 U 0 0 em0 localhost link#14 UH 0 28 lo0 But I can set the adapter manually by $ifconfig em0 inet 192.168.3.41/24 and it works. The question is why dhclient can't get the ip address even a lease is obtained. Thanks, On Thu, 17 Nov 2011, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2011, Xihong Yin wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I upgraded from 8.0 stable to 8.2 stable today. Now I can't connect to the >> network through the network adapter. I've set DCHP and SYNCDHCP in >> /etc/rc.conf and it worked in 8.0. It seems the dhclient problem. The ip >> address can't be obtained. >> >> When I run 'dhclient em0' manually, it shows that an ip address is leased. >> But actually it is not. The 'ifconfig em0' always shows an address of >> 0.0.0.0 with active status. >> >> $dhclient em0 >> DHCPREQUEST on em0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 >> DHCPACK from 192.168.3.1 >> bound to 192.168.3.39 -- renewal in 43200 seconds >> >> But >> >> $ifconfig em0 >> em0: flags=8802 metric 0 mtu 1500 >> options=389b >> ether 6c:62:6d:03:16:31 >> inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 255.255.255.255 >> nd6 options=29 >> media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP ) >> status: active >> >> Any help would be appreciated. > > The interface is down: no "UP" in the flags. What happens if you just do it > manually: > > ifconfig em0 up > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 04:26:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA06106564A for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 04:26:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xyin@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C978C8FC13 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 04:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 19 Nov 2011 04:26:43 -0000 Received: from pool-173-64-118-99.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net (EHLO jupiter) [173.64.118.99] by mail.gmx.com (mp-us002) with SMTP; 18 Nov 2011 23:26:43 -0500 X-Authenticated: #50283380 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+SWikM/k2SkmnfCuVLpT3/cwjOGDbLz5vpGUSCLf SmdwaGjYiiTk1n Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:26:30 -0500 (EST) From: Xihong Yin To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: network problem on 8.2 stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 04:26:45 -0000 > New to me. Does the machine have any unusual settings, like a non-default > securelevel? No. There are no unusual security settings. On Fri, 18 Nov 2011, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 18 Nov 2011, Xihong Yin wrote: > >> I set the adapter up. >> >> Here is the output of 'dhclient em0' >> >> DHCPREQUEST on em0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 >> DHCPACK from 192.168.3.1 >> bound to 192.168.3.41 -- renewal in 1800 seconds. >> >> 'ifconfig em0' output is >> >> em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 >> options=219b >> ether 00:26:b9:9d:30:dc >> inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 255.255.255.255 >> media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) >> status: active >> >> 'netstat -r' show there is no default route >> >> Routing tables >> >> Internet: >> Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire >> 0.0.0.0 link#1 U 0 0 em0 >> localhost link#14 UH 0 28 lo0 >> >> But I can set the adapter manually by >> >> $ifconfig em0 inet 192.168.3.41/24 >> >> and it works. >> >> The question is why dhclient can't get the ip address even a lease is >> obtained. > > New to me. Does the machine have any unusual settings, like a non-default > securelevel? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 04:30:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73161065672 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 04:30:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.12.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81CA98FC0A for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 04:30:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4EC730D2.880D2.17327 ; Authuser web; 18 Nov 2011 23:30:10 EST Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:30:10 -0500 From: William Bulley To: Fbsd8 Message-ID: <20111119043010.GL8967@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Fbsd8 , Edward Martinez , FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Edward Martinez Subject: Re: where to ask about problems with bsdinstall in 9.0RC2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 04:30:11 -0000 According to Fbsd8 on Fri, 11/18/11 at 21:02: > > I think you have under sized /usr and the uncompress ran out of space > during the install. Start over again, wipe the disk clean (ie: delete > all slices)and re-allocate your slices with larger space allocations. Thanks. While this is an older Dell laptop as I said earlier, it still has a decent sized drive. And I am following the guidelines in the handbook at the beginning of section 2.6.5 Creating Partitions Using Disklabel: / (root) is 4 GB swap is 4 GB /var is 4 GB /usr is the rest of the disk - in this case 99 GB Bottom line, I think this is sufficient - it was for 8.2-RELEASE and -STABLE. Plus the handbook says "at least 8 GB" for /usr. Oh, and this is a "dangerously dedicated" drive housing only FreeBSD. That is, I'm using the entire disk for FreeBSD. Thanks again. Or, perhaps you are saying 4 GB is insufficient for /var? Since it seems to be complaining about not being able to write to "var/xxxx". Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 08:15:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DA7106566C for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 08:15:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 056B98FC0A for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 08:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pAJ8F4mm030371 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 08:15:05 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk pAJ8F4mm030371 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1321690505; bh=+0vCPzvGf+uEG03ckUX/ZS5/qFnXFFULaLDBWrKhpVo=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc; b=Fxvta4Wy7tfv6SzLVdjLrOmWMH7RyY+/xjcgAWGra3xt9fY/S1E2bHpUv++k5rg1z dBCFGZl1ShtbPCvqD6rcqwJZhVUz09Dzfb3MFtn8pkvMfM6KY5qnnQp1y7XFRvw7Dr xcYv5Rus+1ujlOfpRU3e1u7iw2qLH2WkT/SdvXqQ= Message-ID: <4EC76580.7060204@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 08:14:56 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20111118230001.GJ8967@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> <4EC6FE1A.2040207@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EC6FE1A.2040207@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD6952B3AE52C98F3A59EEBD4" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: where to ask about problems with bsdinstall in 9.0RC2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 08:15:13 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD6952B3AE52C98F3A59EEBD4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 19/11/2011 00:53, Edward Martinez wrote: > As the progress bar moved to the right toward 100% completion, a > window popped up telling me that it (bsdinstall) could not handle > the base.txz (BTW, what does the suffix ".txz" mean?) - it could > not uncompress it and said something about "unable to write" and > the string was something like: "var/base.txz" (note the lack of > a leading slash in front of "var"). xz(1) is the latest compression program around. It usually gets better results than bzip2 so lots of usages are being switched to it. .txz is a tar archive compressed with xz. Hmmm.. I wonder if the base.txz file on your install media has become corrupt? If you've got a FreeBSD machine around (any supported 7.x or 8.x would do), you could just mount your 9.0 disk on it, find that file wherever it is in the disk, and see if 'tar -tvf base.txz' will show you the contents without errors. The other possibility is that you ran out of space in the partition you were trying to write to. You'ld have to open an emergency holographic shell to investigate (does the new installer even have that wording? It should...) One thing to check is not only space usage but inode usage too. There's an ongoing discussion about installing onto small drives and whether the bytes-to-inode ratio should be modified there. The lack of a leading '/' on the path you saw is normal -- your hard drive is mounted at something like /mnt while the system is installed onto it. The installer is just using paths relative to that mountpoint. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigD6952B3AE52C98F3A59EEBD4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7HZYgACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyi0wCeJeqibXOhUhY3uJAr5Rb9WMBH OA0An3qXoERnZv2wrM69udnqvuVyW5/d =o3hX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD6952B3AE52C98F3A59EEBD4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 11:11:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3D6106566C for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:11:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jau@jau.iki.fi) Received: from jau.iki.fi (ip193-64-26-117.cust.eunet.fi [193.64.26.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24498FC08 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:11:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jau.iki.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jau.iki.fi (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pAJAsIJR087099 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:54:18 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from jau@jau.iki.fi) Received: (from jau@localhost) by jau.iki.fi (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id pAJAsI9q087098 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:54:18 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from jau) Message-Id: <201111191054.pAJAsI9q087098@jau.iki.fi> To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:54:18 +0200 (EET) From: jau@iki.fi (Jukka A. Ukkonen) Sender: jau@iki.fi Latin-Date: dies Saturni XIX Novembrie a.d. MMXI Organization: Private person OS-Platform: FreeBSD Phone: +358-9-6215280 (home) / +358-500-606671 (gsm) Content-Conversion: prohibited X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25+pgp] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (jau.iki.fi [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:54:18 +0200 (EET) Cc: Subject: AMD64 with 9.0 PRERELEASE freezing/hanging without any messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jau@iki.fi List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:11:21 -0000 Hello, Has anyone else noticed a similar odd behavior with AMD64 and 9.0 prerelease (as well as RCs and betas)? On my 12 core (2*4162EE) the whole system just freezes quite often without any warning, without any messages being logged. Neither is there any panic message from the kernel. The system just suddenly hangs such that there is no alternative but to reboot using the reset button. At the moment I don't have any further info about the cause of the problem, but quite often the freeze has happened when there has been some network activity. Does anyone have an idea how to start tracking down such a problem? I mean anything in addition to this... http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug-options.html Cheers, // jau .--- ..- -.- -.- .- .- .-.-.- ..- -.- -.- --- -. . -. / Jukka A. Ukkonen, Oxit Ltd, Finland /__ M.Sc. 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[81.178.2.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fy13sm4349350wbb.18.2011.11.19.02.57.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Nov 2011 02:57:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC78BA6.1050107@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:57:42 +0200 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110927 Thunderbird/7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Syslog server not logging remote machines to file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:20:10 -0000 Hi, I've got a really strange problem which seems to either be a bug with the syslog server service or perhaps because I'm running jails on my system..... I can log my router syslog information but somehow the syslog server doesn't put the information into the designated file; which should be /var/log/cisco857w.log??? This is the syslog definition in my /etc/rc.conf file: { syslogd_enable="YES" #syslog_flags="" syslogd_flags="-d -b 192.168.1.120 -a 192.168.1.1/24:* -vv -C" } Additionally here is my /etc/syslog.conf file: { # $FreeBSD: src/etc/syslog.conf,v 1.30.2.1.2.1 2009/10/25 01:10:29 kensmith Exp $ # # Spaces ARE valid field separators in this file. However, # other *nix-like systems still insist on using tabs as field # separators. If you are sharing this file between systems, you # may want to use only tabs as field separators here. # Consult the syslog.conf(5) manpage. #+server.domain *.err;kern.warning;auth.notice;mail.crit /dev/console *.notice;local7.none;authpriv.none;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err /var/log/messages security.* /var/log/security auth.info;authpriv.info /var/log/auth.log mail.info /var/log/maillog lpr.info /var/log/lpd-errs ftp.info /var/log/xferlog cron.* /var/log/cron *.=debug /var/log/debug.log *.emerg * # uncomment this to log all writes to /dev/console to /var/log/console.log #console.info /var/log/console.log # uncomment this to enable logging of all log messages to /var/log/all.log # touch /var/log/all.log and chmod it to mode 600 before it will work #*.* /var/log/all.log # uncomment this to enable logging to a remote loghost named loghost #*.* @loghost # uncomment these if you're running inn # news.crit /var/log/news/news.crit # news.err /var/log/news/news.err # news.notice /var/log/news/news.notice !ppp *.* /var/log/ppp.log !* +192.168.1.1 *.* /var/log/cisco857w.log #local7.* /var/log/cisco857w.log #!* #+172.16.0.1 #*.* } uname -a shows this: { # uname -a FreeBSD server.domain 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 15:02:08 UTC 2009 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 } The odd thing about this is that I did the same thing on a non-jailed 32bit machine running FreeBSD 8.x and the system worked fine. In my research for the problem I have covered this material: { http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-syslogd.html http://forums.devshed.com/bsd-help-31/remote-syslog-question-router-to-freebsd-118652.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-syslogd.html http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=2968 http://bsd.dischaos.com/2009/02/25/logging-cisco-ios-messages-to-external-freebsd-syslog/ http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2007-02/msg00384.html http://plone.lucidsolutions.co.nz/networking/cisco/ios/logging-to-a-syslog-or-rsyslog-host-from-cisco-ios http://lists.nycbug.org/pipermail/talk/2007-April/010091.html http://www.freebsdonline.com/content/view/527/506/ } They all seem to say more or less the same thing that either putting the: { +192.168.1.1 *.* /var/log/cisco857w.log or local7.* /var/log/cisco857w.log } statements either at the top of the file or changing the syntax slightly using a + between machines should do the trick; however, non of the things I tried have worked from any of the material mentioned above! Here is my debug information: { # tcpdump -tlnvv -i em0 port 514 tcpdump: listening on em0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes IP (tos 0x0, ttl 255, id 337, offset 0, flags [none], proto UDP (17), length 122) 192.168.1.1.59189 > 192.168.1.120.514: SYSLOG, length: 94 Facility local7 (23), Severity debug (7) Msg: 10040: 010027: Nov 19 10:28:04.322: ISAKMP:(0): S[|syslog] IP (tos 0x0, ttl 255, id 338, offset 0, flags [none], proto UDP (17), length 122) 192.168.1.1.59189 > 192.168.1.120.514: SYSLOG, length: 94 Facility local7 (23), Severity debug (7) Msg: 10041: 010028: Nov 19 10:28:04.326: ISAKMP:(0): S[|syslog] IP (tos 0x0, ttl 255, id 339, offset 0, flags [none], proto UDP (17), length 142) 192.168.1.1.59189 > 192.168.1.120.514: SYSLOG, length: 114 Facility local7 (23), Severity notice (5) Msg: 10042: 010029: Nov 19 10:28:04.770: %SYS-5-CONFIG[|syslog] IP (tos 0x0, ttl 255, id 340, offset 0, flags [none], proto UDP (17), length 122) 192.168.1.1.59189 > 192.168.1.120.514: SYSLOG, length: 94 Facility local7 (23), Severity debug (7) Msg: 10043: 010030: Nov 19 10:30:30.672: ISAKMP:(0): S[|syslog] IP (tos 0x0, ttl 255, id 341, offset 0, flags [none], proto UDP (17), length 122) 192.168.1.1.59189 > 192.168.1.120.514: SYSLOG, length: 94 Facility local7 (23), Severity debug (7) Msg: 10044: 010031: Nov 19 10:30:30.672: ISAKMP:(0): S[|syslog] IP (tos 0x0, ttl 255, id 342, offset 0, flags [none], proto UDP (17), length 189) 192.168.1.1.59189 > 192.168.1.120.514: SYSLOG, length: 161 Facility local7 (23), Severity info (6) Msg: 10045: 010032: Nov 19 10:30:36.455: %DOT11-6-ASSO[|syslog] IP (tos 0x0, ttl 255, id 343, offset 0, flags [none], proto UDP (17), length 203) 192.168.1.1.59189 > 192.168.1.120.514: SYSLOG, length: 175 Facility local7 (23), Severity info (6) Msg: 10046: 010033: Nov 19 10:30:47.643: %DOT11-6-DISA[|syslog] -------------------------- # /etc/rc.d/syslogd restart syslogd not running? (check /var/run/syslog.pid). Starting syslogd. allowaddr: rule 0: numeric, addr = 192.168.1.0, mask = 255.255.255.0; port = 0 listening on inet and/or inet6 socket sending on inet and/or inet6 socket off & running.... init cfline("*.err;kern.warning;auth.notice;mail.crit /dev/console", f, "*", "+Server.domain") cfline("*.notice;local7.none;authpriv.none;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err /var/log/messages", f, "*", "+Server.domain") cfline("security.* /var/log/security", f, "*", "+Server.domain") cfline("auth.info;authpriv.info /var/log/auth.log", f, "*", "+Server.domain") cfline("mail.info /var/log/maillog", f, "*", "+Server.domain") cfline("lpr.info /var/log/lpd-errs", f, "*", "+Server.domain") cfline("ftp.info /var/log/xferlog", f, "*", "+Server.domain") cfline("cron.* /var/log/cron", f, "*", "+Server.domain") cfline("*.=debug /var/log/debug.log", f, "*", "+Server.domain") cfline("*.emerg *", f, "*", "+Server.domain") cfline("*.* /var/log/ppp.log", f, "ppp", "+Server.domain") cfline("*.* /var/log/cisco857w.log", f, "*", "+192.168.1.1") 4 3 2 3 5 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 X CONSOLE: /dev/console 7 5 2 5 5 5 6 3 5 5 X 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 X X FILE: /var/log/messages X X X X X X X X X X X X X 7 X X X X X X X X X X X FILE: /var/log/security X X X X 6 X X X X X 6 X X X X X X X X X X X X X X FILE: /var/log/auth.log X X 6 X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X FILE: /var/log/maillog X X X X X X 6 X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X FILE: /var/log/lpd-errs X X X X X X X X X X X 6 X X X X X X X X X X X X X FILE: /var/log/xferlog X X X X X X X X X 7 X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X FILE: /var/log/cron 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 X FILE: /var/log/debug.log 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 X WALL: 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 X FILE: /var/log/ppp.log (ppp) 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 X FILE: /var/log/cisco857w.log logmsg: pri 56, flags 4, from Server, msg syslogd: restart syslogd: restarted logmsg: pri 6, flags 4, from Server, msg syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Logging to FILE /var/log/messages syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel logmsg: pri 166, flags 17, from Server, msg Nov 19 12:33:34 Server syslogd: exiting on signal 2 cvthname(192.168.1.1) validate: dgram from IP 192.168.1.1, port 59189, name router.domain; accepted in rule 0. logmsg: pri 275, flags 0, from cisco857w, msg 10048: 010035: Nov 19 10:33:48.037: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by admin on vty0 (192.168.1.120) } As can be seen the server accepts the messages from the gateway but unfortunately doesn't log them to the file defined in /etc/syslog.conf? Can anyone help with this??? Am I missing something or is it a bug? These are the file permissions set to 600, as can be seen no data has been logged at all: { # ls -l /var/log/cisco857w.log -rw------- 1 root wheel 0 Nov 18 16:32 /var/log/cisco857w.log } Regards, Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 11:51:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897781065673 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:51:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FDA8FC14 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iakl21 with SMTP id l21so7130658iak.13 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:51:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=uXh+pPizwkME0CFkGMYkhTcz9FnAN+S7Ln6z7SbUSkI=; b=unWVoUTHHZXcSRk+R29shnPO1P9wbsf3era80JBycgnOCC/Mf2JHrqe7HXlfZh7o1M rHhL7WlvCDw7gJkEXc48apaV2mIZn1c2kTDmTww840nj+H2eMkBff7ol/2+ZuzcKUDce pvbcLYyMDFB2yg4+Zx9xCN8piKzfJhSUNYztA= Received: by 10.231.21.10 with SMTP id h10mr1547710ibb.69.1321703493892; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:51:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com. [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n30sm16046508ibl.4.2011.11.19.03.51.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:51:33 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 05:51:18 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.7.2; i386; ; ) References: <201111181624.31285.lumiwa@gmail.com> <4EC6E17B.1080503@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4EC6E17B.1080503@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201111190551.18914.lumiwa@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.0 RC-2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:51:35 -0000 On Friday 18 November 2011 16:51:39 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 18/11/2011 22:24, ajtiM wrote: > > I had a problem with memory on y computer with 8.2 and there are some > > mess. I like to install "fresh" FreeBSD 9.0. Is it safe to install RC-2 > > or is better to wait to the final release, please? > > 9.0-RC2 is (probably) going to be very similar indeed to the eventual > 9.0-RELEASE. There will be some bug fixes yet to go in, but it is > unlikely these will be show-stoppers. RC2 is not "unsafe" and there's > no reason not to install it for learning or evaluation or development > purposes. I wouldn't advise using it for anything your livelihood > depends on though. Plan on upgrading to -RELEASE as soon as possible if > you do play with -RC2. > > However, you're unlikely to have a pleasant experience if you've got > dodgy RAM in your machine. All bets are off if the computer cannot rely > on getting the correct data back from RAM. I wouldn't even try booting > up a live CD unless the memory problems have been fixed. > > Cheers, > > Matthew Thank you very much. Each school cost something ): Mitja -------- http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 11:54:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3650106566B for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:54:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8553E8FC08 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:54:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywe9 with SMTP id 9so4915869ywe.13 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:54:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=V7Ux0ButyG6iAZLHr4PfKb0PrECY7rJlOY5Cq3/6xbY=; b=vKvqfOawQSbiQAaabzR/ipPXJkDdfa87rAy5V12wMuxH7Ed/YYl+Yoyx7ZmKtX7ZZV PQZoqApDT1D7+dG5UeXGAEobykU/1akOf2wiVJalang2d8p1DA/MdE9jvlGaPYd+xQ94 El3EcNeexLWi05OVyY3iv5siMU8Z7dnjjRLMQ= Received: by 10.50.17.199 with SMTP id q7mr6913446igd.20.1321703697854; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:54:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com. [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g16sm16023767ibs.8.2011.11.19.03.54.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:54:57 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 05:54:49 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.7.2; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201111190554.49863.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: qt4-cups X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:54:58 -0000 I decided to install FreeBSD 9.0 RC-2. I like to have KDE4 as I have now and my question is: Do I need to have in the make.conf still QT4_OPTIONS=CUPS Thank you. Mitja -------- http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 12:09:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212CF106564A for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D595A8FC15 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl11 with SMTP id l11so4907578yen.13 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 04:09:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=ldq8dZectf9sYdjqcqtGpKeH8lIsSRa7vXcKo5gMeAs=; b=HVR1Y3748YAAz/CQuVanwXwzqDbUHC2Z4MqiQ8/HcUKdTk427hB9Aq6rofiIa6EXdt ThFnh4/2eUGfqe4m6syFcDjlLcYlB8AM2LksbWQndFqg/OEO5utIbIiiV7uUSGLCV2YP A968SkKJ8AeW8kk1d0F4HXjmXqdYfkfyPQERs= Received: by 10.50.12.131 with SMTP id y3mr6936156igb.39.1321704587884; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 04:09:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com. [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j1sm9057473igq.2.2011.11.19.04.09.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Nov 2011 04:09:47 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:09:39 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.7.2; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201111190609.40019.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: file system on 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:09:49 -0000 Hi! One more question before I start installing FreeBSD 9.0 RC-2. Now we have a new bsdinstall and as I red and if I understood correct there is also SU journaling file sistem. I will switch to the GPT partion. If I want to have SU-j file system is it enough that I just choose this option and voila? And another question is about ports. There is an option "ports tree" which is marked default. It is okay that I use this later with portsnap? Thanks in advance. Mitja -------- http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 12:29:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C795C1065670 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:29:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darcsis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC938FC13 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:29:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iakl21 with SMTP id l21so7174610iak.13 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 04:29:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:organization:references:user-agent :x-envelope-to:mail-followup-to:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; bh=nl4qV4gKnKtMCkmlsr72Md5BlfpyYs2zVw3iH/scZro=; b=nBTI2ZwZsJz1z06gXjQVFfgpOncEqjkavNwDW7Tk92JdfG8K3LbW7CH2f/80/642FW lmTxZe/fYbuChhluejYWXOfpyRLz0QWuM7sHQd/30AaUbDi2ztB9NFB8csL6vmp9bOjo pD/fcsEm31jxw967NWWkdrwx+gUboGRfYyK2w= Received: by 10.50.213.40 with SMTP id np8mr7045367igc.10.1321705792207; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 04:29:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([123.117.63.115]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jm11sm16496171ibb.1.2011.11.19.04.29.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Nov 2011 04:29:50 -0800 (PST) From: darcsis@gmail.com (Denise H. G.) To: ajtiM In-Reply-To: <201111190609.40019.lumiwa@gmail.com> (ajtiM's message of "Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:09:39 -0600") Organization: Pluto The Planet References: <201111190609.40019.lumiwa@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) X-Envelope-To: lumiwa@gmail.com Mail-Followup-To: ajtiM , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:29:40 +0800 Message-ID: <87bos8thvv.fsf@pluton.xbsd.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: file system on 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:29:53 -0000 On 2011/11/19 at 20:09, ajtiM wrote: > > Hi! > One more question before I start installing FreeBSD 9.0 RC-2. > Now we have a new bsdinstall and as I red and if I understood correct there is > also SU journaling file sistem. I will switch to the GPT partion. If I want to > have SU-j file system is it enough that I just choose this option and voila? Yes. I think so. 'options UFS_GJOURNAL' is present in GENERIC kernel config. If you use GENERIC kernel, it is there. > And another question is about ports. There is an option "ports tree" which is > marked default. It is okay that I use this later with portsnap? Sure. portsnap is designed to work with the ports tree. > > Thanks in advance. > > Mitja > -------- > http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa > ................ -- If you've got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 13:18:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A74F1065673 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 13:18:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BCC8FC0A for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 13:18:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwg14 with SMTP id 14so6720660wwg.31 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 05:18:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QOIFs0XHpakuvIqv4vrQAR1Kjw20t/3rs9DFD0AtF5c=; b=ckDtH7VD/1VDzEqjaBIjGx1Y8bFkrkq+saYVGo6nfdbWFwDpeFJcv+hh1/DNVqLdAE gJUoIazTStZFsrVDNvybSFniONTYgpG7WCZDxmVPXKYOnv1h0yVkz12C+apHDLxFhGUP Bbh9PyTd4X2tSGPGMjsVz7larWcfHX173xQu0= Received: by 10.227.198.140 with SMTP id eo12mr4588434wbb.20.1321708689177; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 05:18:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z5sm1938066wix.5.2011.11.19.05.18.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Nov 2011 05:18:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 13:18:04 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111119131804.4a475cb5@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <87bos8thvv.fsf@pluton.xbsd.name> References: <201111190609.40019.lumiwa@gmail.com> <87bos8thvv.fsf@pluton.xbsd.name> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: file system on 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 13:18:11 -0000 On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:29:40 +0800 Denise H. G. wrote: > > On 2011/11/19 at 20:09, ajtiM wrote: > > > > Hi! > > One more question before I start installing FreeBSD 9.0 RC-2. > > Now we have a new bsdinstall and as I red and if I understood > > correct there is also SU journaling file sistem. I will switch to > > the GPT partion. If I want to have SU-j file system is it enough > > that I just choose this option and voila? > > Yes. I think so. 'options UFS_GJOURNAL' is present in GENERIC kernel > config. If you use GENERIC kernel, it is there. UFS_GJOURNAL is for gjournal not soft-update journalling. A file system doesn't actually need to be created with either soft-updates or soft-update journalling- it's something that can be turned of and on. And yes enabling it in the installer should be sufficient. > > And another question is about ports. There is an option "ports > > tree" which is marked default. It is okay that I use this later > > with portsnap? > > Sure. portsnap is designed to work with the ports tree. There's no point in installing the default tree since portsnap has to do an initial "extract". In general I'd suggest starting portsnap on an empty ports directory just to eliminate any minor cruft. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 15:03:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D62106564A for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:03:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 016B28FC0A for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iakl21 with SMTP id l21so7348169iak.13 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 07:03:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=d8N6I9mYz4inQlwF54fR//QoFznsn4oGKOO9GHcfhHE=; b=vd4PLGmdIJkjIxhzZC0r7h+Q1IMqh8igqWSaaUJuN5awjRrfvQrJaOIhyLHAmH2BKB t6ILCoRfE/4yJVEh/5+K1uZXTHgsH1qciyxpS6tOTKHKxDosvqQS3wb5QRayKhVkH1Zc JEKY2N1kzk4NzfPiBZNgsqoc0c3lOMbp2NZZg= Received: by 10.42.173.71 with SMTP id q7mr2520365icz.43.1321714999659; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 07:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.wi.rr.com (cpe-184-58-138-79.wi.res.rr.com. [184.58.138.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g16sm17981530ibs.8.2011.11.19.07.03.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Nov 2011 07:03:19 -0800 (PST) From: ajtiM To: "Denise H. G." Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:03:09 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/8.2-RELEASE-p3; KDE/4.7.2; i386; ; ) References: <201111190609.40019.lumiwa@gmail.com> <87bos8thvv.fsf@pluton.xbsd.name> In-Reply-To: <87bos8thvv.fsf@pluton.xbsd.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201111190903.10083.lumiwa@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: file system on 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:03:20 -0000 On Saturday 19 November 2011 06:29:40 Denise H. G. wrote: > On 2011/11/19 at 20:09, ajtiM wrote: > > Hi! > > One more question before I start installing FreeBSD 9.0 RC-2. > > Now we have a new bsdinstall and as I red and if I understood correct > > there is also SU journaling file sistem. I will switch to the GPT > > partion. If I want to have SU-j file system is it enough that I just > > choose this option and voila? > > Yes. I think so. 'options UFS_GJOURNAL' is present in GENERIC kernel > config. If you use GENERIC kernel, it is there. > > > And another question is about ports. There is an option "ports tree" > > which is marked default. It is okay that I use this later with portsnap? > > Sure. portsnap is designed to work with the ports tree. Thank you and one more, please... Partitioning: if I choose guided than I got: freebsd-boot freebsd-ufs / freebsd-swap If I press "enter" on freebsd-ufs / than I got options to make moe partitions. Is it okay that I make /, /var, /tmp and /usr as I have now. Thank you very much for the help. Mitja -------- http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 15:06:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2881065672 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:06:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9318FC08 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id pAJF80H9065457; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:08:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:08:00 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201111191508.pAJF80H9065457@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: web@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <20111119043010.GL8967@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where to ask about problems with bsdinstall in 9.0RC2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:06:54 -0000 William Bulley wrote: > > According to Fbsd8 on Fri, 11/18/11 at 21:02: > > > > I think you have under sized /usr and the uncompress ran out of space > > during the install. Start over again, wipe the disk clean (ie: delete > > all slices)and re-allocate your slices with larger space allocations. > > Thanks. IIRC, the error message was "out of inodes". This means something was trying to put *lots* (where 'lots' is relative number, depending on the size of the filesystem :) of little files on the filesystem. You were _not_ out of 'free space' on the filesystem, just out of slots for file 'metadata'. Newfs, if not told specifically how many inodes to allocate, makes a 'guess' based on the size of the slice -- thus increasing the size of a partition will have an automatic 'side effect' of increasing the total number of inodes. However, by explicitly stating the number of inodes, or the inodes per unit of storage, when running newfs, one can get more (or fewer) inodew _without_ having to change partition sizes. Most significantly, one can do this -- change the number of inodes, that is -- *without* having to destroy/recreate any other partitions on the same physical device. SECONDLY, if this happened -during- the install, and the complaint was about "/var" -- as distinct from something like '/a/var', or '/mnt/var' Then the problem is *NOT* on the drives you are installing *ONTO*, but on the media you are installing _from_. At a guess, the installer is using /var -- probably /var/tmp -- to keep scratchpad files in, and there are not enough inodes for the installer. could it be unpacking tarfiles there, move/copy onto the 'target' media? You're installing from a memory stick right? You may need to rebuild the filesystem on the stick, _manually_ specifying a larger number of inodes for the filesystem that /var is part of. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 15:20:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83DA106566B for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:20:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DEB28FC08 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:20:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id pAJFLGAP065517; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:21:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:21:16 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201111191521.pAJFLGAP065517@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kayasaman@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4EC78BA6.1050107@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Syslog server not logging remote machines to file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:20:09 -0000 Kaya Saman wrote: > > Hi, > > I've got a really strange problem which seems to either be a bug with > the syslog server service or perhaps because I'm running jails on my > system..... > > I can log my router syslog information but somehow the syslog server > doesn't put the information into the designated file; which should be > /var/log/cisco857w.log??? > The -usual- 'gotcha' for this situation is that you have to _create_ the file FIRST, and then tell syslogd to reload it's configuration. (i.e. 'kill -HUP' the PID for syslogd) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 15:31:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F6B1065672 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:31:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745EC8FC0A for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:31:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwg14 with SMTP id 14so6866728wwg.31 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 07:31:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=62XTtkdDe0mOMDc+MCg+2UBomgCUuIt/R4AfqFwQzDc=; b=wBxyZSzM3hrTP3YPRvNim0S+QKZUJkUqg9cUaPxNRbGZ5+3NvWoVptehwh2gaA5Dyv mfjHe8+NjwbQjRZzPki4Hkuxvy5HIq0rgYJeiZIgr/Eghd64FTXA6qqaCxbQklbF+WTR YOBFXc0EEQ7K/uH500X44zSPiPuTdeKDB98Ac= Received: by 10.227.59.204 with SMTP id m12mr5880697wbh.14.1321716713494; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 07:31:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from Hp2230s.localhost (81-178-2-118.dsl.pipex.com. [81.178.2.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ff6sm5164652wbb.10.2011.11.19.07.31.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Nov 2011 07:31:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC7CBE6.8030509@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:31:50 +0200 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110927 Thunderbird/7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201111191521.pAJFLGAP065517@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201111191521.pAJFLGAP065517@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Syslog server not logging remote machines to file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:31:55 -0000 On 11/19/2011 05:21 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > Kaya Saman wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've got a really strange problem which seems to either be a bug with >> the syslog server service or perhaps because I'm running jails on my >> system..... >> >> I can log my router syslog information but somehow the syslog server >> doesn't put the information into the designated file; which should be >> /var/log/cisco857w.log??? >> > The -usual- 'gotcha' for this situation is that you have to _create_ the > file FIRST, and then tell syslogd to reload it's configuration. (i.e. > 'kill -HUP' the PID for syslogd) > > That's ok, however due to me running syslogd in debug mode anyway - ctrl + c should do that anyway..... I performed a: ps aux | grep syslog with no result other then my 'grepping' displayed. Meaning that the syslog daemon should have reloaded right? - I mean it's standard for everything else which works in that way! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 15:40:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFAF106566C for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:40:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rloefgren@forethought.net) Received: from mzpi5.forethought.net (mzpi5.forethought.net [216.241.36.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE4B8FC21 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:40:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 216-241-45-95.static.forethought.net ([216.241.45.95] helo=auden.jmla.com) by mz3.forethought.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RRn1t-0006S7-9M for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 08:40:33 -0700 Message-ID: <4EC7CDE6.7090504@forethought.net> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 08:40:22 -0700 From: Reed Loefgren User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110821 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201111191054.pAJAsI9q087098@jau.iki.fi> In-Reply-To: <201111191054.pAJAsI9q087098@jau.iki.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: AMD64 with 9.0 PRERELEASE freezing/hanging without any messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:40:34 -0000 On 11/19/11 03:54, Jukka A. Ukkonen wrote: > Hello, > > Has anyone else noticed a similar odd behavior with AMD64 and 9.0 > prerelease (as well as RCs and betas)? > On my 12 core (2*4162EE) the whole system just freezes quite often > without any warning, without any messages being logged. Neither is > there any panic message from the kernel. The system just suddenly > hangs such that there is no alternative but to reboot using the > reset button. > At the moment I don't have any further info about the cause of the > problem, but quite often the freeze has happened when there has been > some network activity. > Does anyone have an idea how to start tracking down such a problem? > I mean anything in addition to this... > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug-options.html > > > Cheers, > // jau > .--- ..- -.- -.- .- .- .-.-.- ..- -.- -.- --- -. . -. > / Jukka A. Ukkonen, Oxit Ltd, Finland > /__ M.Sc. (sw-eng& cs) (Phone) +358-500-606-671 > / Internet: Jukka.Ukkonen(a)Oxit.Fi > / Internet: jau(a)iki.fi > v > .--- .- ..- ...-.- .. -.- .. .-.-.- ..-. .. > + + + + My opinions are mine and mine alone, not my employers. + + + + > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I experienced this a rather long time ago with an AMD X2600 (Barton?) processor. The machine would freeze when I did some rapid mousing/clicking in and out of a window. Nothing in the logs. If I stayed out of X things were just fine but this was my home machine and why should I have to stay out of X? I figured FBSD dev was just running behind the Intel dev and time would fix it. Or Xorg dev would even up. In any case it went away in the next release. It was never *that* much of a problem; consistent but not often. Your freezing appears to be more frequent than was mine. At this point in the release cycle I think the only issues they find are for weird corner cases. Perhaps you have one. Or it's hardware :( Try a different NIC for a while. r From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 16:06:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B27106566C for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 16:06:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173888FC08 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 16:06:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87954D9 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:06:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:06:43 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <788196A576272A9B463EE70B@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <4EC76580.7060204@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <20111118230001.GJ8967@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> <4EC6FE1A.2040207@gmail.com> <4EC76580.7060204@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: where to ask about problems with bsdinstall in 9.0RC2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 16:06:57 -0000 --As of November 19, 2011 8:14:56 AM +0000, Matthew Seaman is alleged to have said: > On 19/11/2011 00:53, Edward Martinez wrote: >> As the progress bar moved to the right toward 100% completion, a >> window popped up telling me that it (bsdinstall) could not handle >> the base.txz (BTW, what does the suffix ".txz" mean?) - it could >> not uncompress it and said something about "unable to write" and >> the string was something like: "var/base.txz" (note the lack of >> a leading slash in front of "var"). > > xz(1) is the latest compression program around. It usually gets better > results than bzip2 so lots of usages are being switched to it. .txz is > a tar archive compressed with xz. --As for the rest, it is mine. Just as a quick digression... xz has only marginal improvements in compressed size over bzip2, and takes a lot more cpu/memory resources to compress. In most cases, I'd say it's the wrong choice for a compression format. However, the one place where it is unequivocally the *best* choice is one that will make it well known: Distributing archives. It does beat bzip2 by a small amount, and it's *decompression* time is *much* faster than bzip2 - on par with gzip. Plus decompression can be done in a fixed amount of RAM, regardless of the size of the files being uncompressed. For files that are compressed once and then decompressed many times on many different boxes - like a FreeBSD release - it's a definite win. But for files that will be compressed and uncompressed regularly, or compressed and usually never touched again, it's worth thinking about what's the best balance of resources. Daniel T. 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This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 16:58:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC031065670 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 16:58:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darcsis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 432828FC19 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 16:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iakl21 with SMTP id l21so7476191iak.13 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 08:58:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:organization:references:user-agent :x-envelope-to:mail-followup-to:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; bh=faT+vwC3R75OPL7DmcYI0URwg8jgHFYZGcktwaQbQYM=; b=PkCotN/mfPrwlany2ZMGpLL4zdHiNGSU8OZav/+08W44V1lWCZKPxYMBKBlFdUN8Ez LQUhL4C+aaSDEhLF35zwUNcSbTlcJQpsleQV/6Zb/0Evw2gp3TANz5qAF4HQn+pY1EPO 6rqvmEkNtbLsp2R9N6oZhiKnvyMMqzGqQcsgc= Received: by 10.50.216.167 with SMTP id or7mr7827011igc.22.1321721898733; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 08:58:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([123.117.63.115]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p16sm19175796ibk.6.2011.11.19.08.58.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Nov 2011 08:58:17 -0800 (PST) From: darcsis@gmail.com (Denise H. G.) To: RW In-Reply-To: <20111119131804.4a475cb5@gumby.homeunix.com> (RW's message of "Sat, 19 Nov 2011 13:18:04 +0000") Organization: Pluto The Planet References: <201111190609.40019.lumiwa@gmail.com> <87bos8thvv.fsf@pluton.xbsd.name> <20111119131804.4a475cb5@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) X-Envelope-To: rwmaillists@googlemail.com Mail-Followup-To: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 00:58:07 +0800 Message-ID: <874ny0dp7k.fsf@pluton.xbsd.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: file system on 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 16:58:19 -0000 On 2011/11/19 at 21:18, RW wrote: > > On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:29:40 +0800 > Denise H. G. wrote: > >> >> On 2011/11/19 at 20:09, ajtiM wrote: >> > >> > Hi! >> > One more question before I start installing FreeBSD 9.0 RC-2. >> > Now we have a new bsdinstall and as I red and if I understood >> > correct there is also SU journaling file sistem. I will switch to >> > the GPT partion. If I want to have SU-j file system is it enough >> > that I just choose this option and voila? >> >> Yes. I think so. 'options UFS_GJOURNAL' is present in GENERIC kernel >> config. If you use GENERIC kernel, it is there. > > UFS_GJOURNAL is for gjournal not soft-update journalling. > > A file system doesn't actually need to be created with either > soft-updates or soft-update journalling- it's something that can be > turned of and on. And yes enabling it in the installer should be > sufficient. > Thanks for clarifying. >> > And another question is about ports. There is an option "ports >> > tree" which is marked default. It is okay that I use this later >> > with portsnap? >> >> Sure. portsnap is designed to work with the ports tree. > > There's no point in installing the default tree since portsnap has to > do an initial "extract". In general I'd suggest starting portsnap on an > empty ports directory just to eliminate any minor cruft. Yes. the ports tree on the installation CD/DVD is always old and only takes longer time to install than without them. > ................ -- If you've got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow. 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[81.178.2.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ff6sm5423429wbb.10.2011.11.19.09.01.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:01:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC7E0CB.3020406@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 19:00:59 +0200 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110927 Thunderbird/7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201111191652.pAJGqHOM066166@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201111191652.pAJGqHOM066166@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Syslog server not logging remote machines to file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:01:03 -0000 On 11/19/2011 06:52 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> From kayasaman@gmail.com Sat Nov 19 09:33:08 2011 >> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:31:50 +0200 >> From: Kaya Saman >> To: Robert Bonomi >> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Syslog server not logging remote machines to file? >> >> On 11/19/2011 05:21 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: >>> Kaya Saman wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I've got a really strange problem which seems to either be a bug with >>>> the syslog server service or perhaps because I'm running jails on my >>>> system..... >>>> >>>> I can log my router syslog information but somehow the syslog server >>>> doesn't put the information into the designated file; which should be >>>> /var/log/cisco857w.log??? >>>> >>> The -usual- 'gotcha' for this situation is that you have to _create_ the >>> file FIRST, and then tell syslogd to reload it's configuration. (i.e. >>> 'kill -HUP' the PID for syslogd) >>> >>> >> That's ok, however due to me running syslogd in debug mode anyway - ctrl >> + c should do that anyway..... I performed a: ps aux | grep syslog with >> no result other then my 'grepping' displayed. >> >> Meaning that the syslog daemon should have reloaded right? - I mean it's >> standard for everything else which works in that way! > Well if ps -aux doesn't show any syslogd entry, then syslogd is -not- > running -- which would explain why it's not logging anything to the file :) > > If you're stopping and restarting syslogd, then, yes, that causes it to > re-read the configuration. > > This begs the question, however, *DOES* that file exist? syslog does _not_ > _create_ a missing logfile, just because it is mentioned in the syslog.conf > file. > g Robert, I can assure that syslogd is running, hence the logging posted within my first email to the list. When run with the -d and -vv flags set in /etc/rc.conf I need to use ctrl +c to break out of it as it logs directly to the tty. Just to go over it again, output from syslogd with -d and -vv flags set running in debug mode shows: { logmsg: pri 56, flags 4, from Server, msg syslogd: restart syslogd: restarted logmsg: pri 6, flags 4, from Server, msg syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Logging to FILE /var/log/messages syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel logmsg: pri 166, flags 17, from Server, msg Nov 19 12:33:34 Server syslogd: exiting on signal 2 cvthname(192.168.1.1) validate: dgram from IP 192.168.1.1, port 59189, name router.domain; accepted in rule 0. logmsg: pri 275, flags 0, from cisco857w, msg 10048: 010035: Nov 19 10:33:48.037: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by admin on vty0 (192.168.1.120) } The file is mentioned in syslogd config and seems to be loaded within the configuration: { cfline("*.* /var/log/cisco857w.log", f, "*", "+192.168.1.1") 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 X FILE: /var/log/cisco857w.log } The file *has* been created also under /var/log/ dir however self creation is possible using the -C flag within /etc/rc.conf file; and give 'appropriate' permission 600: { # ls -l /var/log | grep cisco857 -rw------- 1 root wheel 0 Nov 18 16:32 cisco857w.log } So after all this looks {**perfect**} what can this mysterious problem be?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 17:09:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3021065672 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:09:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darcsis@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1E48FC1F for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:09:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghbg20 with SMTP id g20so2038884ghb.13 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:09:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:organization:references:user-agent :x-envelope-to:mail-followup-to:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; bh=c/6B362Y6WBhwyov/YliYOEwrPdUtAWQfATl7VPdiVE=; b=nud8QQsaUId9xJtWG8tseohTsIR525VjU2rs2tqUwHZzQDbzQfmTRbYZpHvdyYTmLm Qp7jOEk+xWeX+5X0MTxaxwrueQOma/P0Ch5eeZO0lMwyReuXQdgEbEZWtPR2khWNR+DL CnwIfW+i9RMhbyfzGrHc3UwRWozwOciuZG2Mw= Received: by 10.50.207.99 with SMTP id lv3mr7876608igc.16.1321722539910; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:08:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([123.117.63.115]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ew6sm10818402igc.4.2011.11.19.09.08.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:08:59 -0800 (PST) From: darcsis@gmail.com (Denise H. G.) To: ajtiM In-Reply-To: <201111190903.10083.lumiwa@gmail.com> (ajtiM's message of "Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:03:09 -0600") Organization: Pluto The Planet References: <201111190609.40019.lumiwa@gmail.com> <87bos8thvv.fsf@pluton.xbsd.name> <201111190903.10083.lumiwa@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) X-Envelope-To: lumiwa@gmail.com Mail-Followup-To: ajtiM , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 01:08:49 +0800 Message-ID: <87zkfsca5a.fsf@pluton.xbsd.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: file system on 9.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:09:01 -0000 On 2011/11/19 at 23:03, ajtiM wrote: > > On Saturday 19 November 2011 06:29:40 Denise H. G. wrote: >> On 2011/11/19 at 20:09, ajtiM wrote: >> > Hi! >> > One more question before I start installing FreeBSD 9.0 RC-2. >> > Now we have a new bsdinstall and as I red and if I understood correct >> > there is also SU journaling file sistem. I will switch to the GPT >> > partion. If I want to have SU-j file system is it enough that I just >> > choose this option and voila? >> >> Yes. I think so. 'options UFS_GJOURNAL' is present in GENERIC kernel >> config. If you use GENERIC kernel, it is there. >> >> > And another question is about ports. There is an option "ports tree" >> > which is marked default. It is okay that I use this later with portsnap? >> >> Sure. portsnap is designed to work with the ports tree. > Thank you and one more, please... > > Partitioning: if I choose guided than I got: > freebsd-boot > freebsd-ufs / > freebsd-swap > > If I press "enter" on freebsd-ufs / than I got options to make moe partitions. > Is it okay that I make /, /var, /tmp and /usr as I have now. I strongly advise that /usr and /usr/local reside on different partitions. Furthermore, If you plan to run a desktop environment, your /usr/local should be big enough, say 8G - 10G, to hold all stuff you built from the ports. And putting /var on a separate partitiion is a good idea, I think. You can find detailed information on how to lay out and size your partitions in tuning(7) either locally or online. > > Thank you very much for the help. > > > Mitja > ................ Regards. -- If you've got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 18:29:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED801065670 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:29:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9163D8FC08 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:29:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id pAJITNTH074453; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 05:29:23 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 05:29:23 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: William Bulley In-Reply-To: <20111119120027.ACFC71065757@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20111120041235.R72022@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20111119120027.ACFC71065757@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Edward Martinez Subject: Re: where to ask about problems with bsdinstall in 9.0RC2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:29:27 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 389, Issue 8, Message: 6 On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:08:22 -0500 William Bulley wrote: > According to Edward Martinez on Fri, 11/18/11 at 19:53: > > > > Have you tried installing with "ACPI" disabled. > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-install-trouble.html#Q3.10.2.1. > > > > this also may be of some help: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/bsdinstall-partitioning.html > > Thanks. > > I will try disabling "ACPI" but this wasn't necessary for the install > of 8.2-RELEASE from CD which, as I said, went in just as I expected. I doubt that's your problem, going by my experiences with BETA1 and following the freebsd-current archives for a couple of months; others have described similar problems installing over existing slices, and in my mind it points to a relatively large deficiency in bsdinstall versus sysinstall (still available from 'Live CD' mode, at BETA1 anyway) > I would not think that much would have changed in 9.0RC2 in this area. > Maybe I am wrong about that. > > The second URL describes the Manual vs. Guided install and partition > section of bsdinstall. I had read this several days before the 9.0RC2 > install attempt from DVD. It seemed pretty reasonable, but a little bit > different from sysinstall. Was worth a try. Unfortunately that concentrates on creating a GPT layout, encouraging a Linux-like single (plus a boot) partition - forget using dump/restore - and says nothing much about installing over an existing setup with MBR partitioning and multiple slices, a not uncommon setup on many existing laptops .. eg here I want to install over a previous 7.2-RELEASE 60GB slice partitioned as I want it - 1GB /, 4GB /var, 16GB /usr and ~37GB /home. Further, I want to preserve /home as is, despite having backups. > What I saw when I selected Manual partitioning, was a complete tree: > > ad0 > ad0s1 [FreeBSD Boot Manager from 8.2] > ad0s1a xxxx [was my previous root partition] > ad0s1d xxxx [was my previous swap partition] > ad0s1d xxxx [was my previous /var partition] > ad0s1e xxxx [was my previous /usr partition] > > or something very close to that, missing only my mount points from my > previous 8.2-STABLE system. I added the mount points (this is the area > where I thought bsdinstall had some weaknesses in the "User Experience") > and went on after selecting "Finish". sysinstall's partitioning is more sophisticated; you get to specifically toggle on or off newfs'ing each partition, as well as specifying newfs options if you want. So it's clear whether you'll be newfs'ing / and which other partitions, and which you'll be leaving alone, eg /home. > The problem occurred much later after I selected all four install files. > When I said the equivalent of "Go", it began the process of loading them > off the DVD, checking their checksums, and compressing them prior to > installing them. It was while processing the first (base.txz) chunk > that the popup appeared giving me the "unable to write" or "unable to > uncompress" message. Can't recall the exact error now some hours later... :-( On BETA1 I recorded "Extract Error while extracting base.txz: can't set user=0/group=0 for /var/empty Can't update time for /var/empty .." which someone/s else also reported, which turned out to be misleading .. the basic problem is that the filesystem isn't empty, ie as after newfs. The workaround given then was to boot in Live CD (aka Fixit) mode, and newfs the appropriate partitions, manually or with SADE - in your case probably all of /, /var and /usr - and then rerun the install onto clear partition/s; it's not and never should be required to scrap existing partitioning. Something else not clearly evident to me is (or at least was) that if you don't supply a mountpoint for a partition, it won't be used; in my case I'd have to leave my /home partition unmentioned so it would be left alone .. after all, every partition on every slice is listed as a possible install target. I admit not having tried this again since, after feeling a bit lucky not to have destroyed my whole 7.2 slice, but that was BETA1 after all .. I haven't yet discovered whether or how bsdinstall handles setting boot0cfg for multi-boot systems, and I've seen no mention of boot0cfg or anything similar (apart from Linuxisms like GRUB) for GPT setups at all. > So the extraction step failed the first file, and I never made it to > the Post-Installation phase, sigh... :-( Yep. I'd hoped this might be fixed (or at least documented?) by now, but I think bsdinstall has to be considered still in development at this stage - ie, for 9.0 - except for such as installing to new systems, for which it appears to be working very well. Some have implied that the sort of installs we're attempting should require prior expertise, but even people who've been installing FreeBSD for a decade or so have been confused by this one, and you shouldn't need to read current@ to know how to deal with this sort of installation error, in my view. Fortunately sysinstall is still there, and while it can't handle GPT partitioning, should still be useful for partitioning and maintaining many existing systems. I've yet to install RC1, and here's RC2, but I'm encouraged to see the memstick.img has dropped GPT partitioning for MBR with a single provider (eg da0a) so it can be again used by sysinstall; in my case I'd rather use that than manually newfs needed partitions. I hope someone will correct any now-obsolete concerns I've expressed :) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 18:34:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8F9106566C for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:34:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward5.mail.yandex.net (forward5.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:602::5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D3B8FC08 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.mail.yandex.net (smtp2.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.102]) by forward5.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id D677612027E5; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:33:59 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1321727639; bh=7jF8fdbXOnRBBGWkxLsQwIOfy8hmz/b4gRbtehWfgX0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=LzJA3xv4+XF01/Hnf0ClGgLCE1XEFXMunPBXmsUatxAbYCw3rcwPLG21lXE5igsee oaNTlEJiJj/inRbHWiqjuVYO+/nUy0I6ArVB+tYHslemhZEwOVJ3ajZ/gF+eXTaqkN 5JRwz6vv9wvP8iJ+E8zsOxpdF/5TDZMQ6NkBwEDU= Received: from smtp2.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id B3F55E203D5; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:33:59 +0400 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1321727639; bh=7jF8fdbXOnRBBGWkxLsQwIOfy8hmz/b4gRbtehWfgX0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=LzJA3xv4+XF01/Hnf0ClGgLCE1XEFXMunPBXmsUatxAbYCw3rcwPLG21lXE5igsee oaNTlEJiJj/inRbHWiqjuVYO+/nUy0I6ArVB+tYHslemhZEwOVJ3ajZ/gF+eXTaqkN 5JRwz6vv9wvP8iJ+E8zsOxpdF/5TDZMQ6NkBwEDU= Received: from unknown (unknown [77.93.52.20]) by smtp2.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id Xx3OIJQt-Xx3aqo1B; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:33:59 +0400 X-Yandex-Spam: 1 Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:33:57 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 2 (High) Message-ID: <410246930.20111119203357@yandex.ru> To: tri@iki.fi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: BUG: scp -pr does not copy directories that have ':' sign in their names X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:34:02 -0000 HI, Tri. scp -pr * name@host:/home/dir does not copy files which have ':' sign in their names -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 21:12:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2F1106564A for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fquest@paz.bz) Received: from mail.qcislands.net (mail.qcislands.net [207.34.147.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9718FC14 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:12:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 100-236-53-209.qcislands.net ([209.53.236.100] helo=[192.168.1.4]) by mail.qcislands.net with esmtp (Exim 4.75) (envelope-from ) id 1RRrg9-0001kw-Lu; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800 Message-ID: <4EC813BA.1050408@paz.bz> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:38:18 -0800 From: Jim Pazarena User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-local_scan: locally submitted (100) Subject: radiusd-cistron X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:12:32 -0000 I recently switched from FBSD 7.0 i386 to FBSD 8.2 amd64 my radius only sees garbage in place of the password, so no one can authenticate. Since I changed both OS (7.0->8.2) AND platform (i386->amd64), I am unsure where to start looking for an encryption problem. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Yes, I could switch to freeradius, but would that change/help an encryption issue? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 22:15:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6069106564A for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:15:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.12.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C388FC13 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By tombraider.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4EC82A91.B6F04.2717 ; Authuser web; 19 Nov 2011 17:15:45 EST Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:15:45 -0500 From: William Bulley To: Ian Smith Message-ID: <20111119221545.GA13594@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Ian Smith , Edward Martinez , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Edward Martinez Subject: Re: where to ask about problems with bsdinstall in 9.0RC2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:15:47 -0000 According to Ian Smith on Sat, 11/19/11 at 13:29: > > I doubt that's your problem, going by my experiences with BETA1 and > following the freebsd-current archives for a couple of months; others > have described similar problems installing over existing slices, and in > my mind it points to a relatively large deficiency in bsdinstall versus > sysinstall (still available from 'Live CD' mode, at BETA1 anyway) Thanks. This makes me feel better and not so clueless. I had guessed that bsdinstall was ready for prime time, but evidently not. > Unfortunately that concentrates on creating a GPT layout, encouraging a > Linux-like single (plus a boot) partition - forget using dump/restore - > and says nothing much about installing over an existing setup with MBR > partitioning and multiple slices, a not uncommon setup on many existing > laptops .. eg here I want to install over a previous 7.2-RELEASE 60GB > slice partitioned as I want it - 1GB /, 4GB /var, 16GB /usr and ~37GB > /home. Further, I want to preserve /home as is, despite having backups. OMG! :-( > sysinstall's partitioning is more sophisticated; you get to specifically > toggle on or off newfs'ing each partition, as well as specifying newfs > options if you want. So it's clear whether you'll be newfs'ing / and > which other partitions, and which you'll be leaving alone, eg /home. I will have to "revert" to the "disc1" - but wait, there isn't one!?!?!?! I will have to use the "bootonly" solution, sigh... :-( > On BETA1 I recorded "Extract Error while extracting base.txz: can't set > user=0/group=0 for /var/empty Can't update time for /var/empty .." which > someone/s else also reported, which turned out to be misleading .. the > basic problem is that the filesystem isn't empty, ie as after newfs. Most assuredly the problem as my disk partitions were completely full of 8.2-STABLE and useable as such (and still are since the 9.0RC2 install failed). > The workaround given then was to boot in Live CD (aka Fixit) mode, and > newfs the appropriate partitions, manually or with SADE - in your case > probably all of /, /var and /usr - and then rerun the install onto clear > partition/s; it's not and never should be required to scrap existing > partitioning. This sucks as a workaround IMHO. I agree with you last sentence. > Something else not clearly evident to me is (or at least was) that if > you don't supply a mountpoint for a partition, it won't be used; in my > case I'd have to leave my /home partition unmentioned so it would be > left alone .. after all, every partition on every slice is listed as a > possible install target. I admit not having tried this again since, > after feeling a bit lucky not to have destroyed my whole 7.2 slice, but > that was BETA1 after all .. I did, in fact, supply mount points for /, /var and /usr (n/a to swap). However, as I said there was some ugliness in the User Experience with that phase of bsdinstall - there were only two writeable "textareas" for each partition and when I tried to give the mount point, I found that I was writing into the first "textarea" which was already filled in with "freebsd" as I recall. Moving to the second "textarea" to enter the mount point was successful, but there was no way to move to the "OK" or "cancel" buttons at the bottom of this "window". Fortunately, I was able to continue by entering the "return" key on my keyboard, which was not clearly documented. > I haven't yet discovered whether or how bsdinstall handles setting > boot0cfg for multi-boot systems, and I've seen no mention of boot0cfg or > anything similar (apart from Linuxisms like GRUB) for GPT setups at all. Don't have anything to say about those items... > Yep. I'd hoped this might be fixed (or at least documented?) by now, > but I think bsdinstall has to be considered still in development at this > stage - ie, for 9.0 - except for such as installing to new systems, for > which it appears to be working very well. Some have implied that the > sort of installs we're attempting should require prior expertise, but > even people who've been installing FreeBSD for a decade or so have been > confused by this one, and you shouldn't need to read current@ to know > how to deal with this sort of installation error, in my view. "Should require prior expertise"!?!?!?!?! I've been building (from source) and using FreeBSD since 2.1.5 back in around 1995 or 1996 as far as I can recall - and I have the CDROMs purchased from Walnut Creek to prove it! :-) And I agree about not having to subscribe to current either (which I don't). > Fortunately sysinstall is still there, and while it can't handle GPT > partitioning, should still be useful for partitioning and maintaining > many existing systems. I've yet to install RC1, and here's RC2, but I'm > encouraged to see the memstick.img has dropped GPT partitioning for MBR > with a single provider (eg da0a) so it can be again used by sysinstall; > in my case I'd rather use that than manually newfs needed partitions. > > I hope someone will correct any now-obsolete concerns I've expressed :) Thanks again. I think sysinstall is excellent and should be retained. I will try the "bootonly" approach _with_ sysinstall and see if I can get 9.0RC2 loaded "properly". :-) Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 22:25:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA644106566B for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.14.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DF68FC0A for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4EC82CDF.33E8C.20099 ; Authuser web; 19 Nov 2011 17:25:35 EST Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:25:34 -0500 From: William Bulley To: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <20111119222534.GB13594@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Robert Bonomi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where to ask about problems with bsdinstall in 9.0RC2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:25:36 -0000 According to Robert Bonomi on Sat, 11/19/11 at 10:08: > > IIRC, the error message was "out of inodes". > > This means something was trying to put *lots* (where 'lots' is relative > number, depending on the size of the filesystem :) of little files on the > filesystem. You were _not_ out of 'free space' on the filesystem, just out > of slots for file 'metadata'. Newfs, if not told specifically how many > inodes to allocate, makes a 'guess' based on the size of the slice -- thus > increasing the size of a partition will have an automatic 'side effect' of > increasing the total number of inodes. However, by explicitly stating the > number of inodes, or the inodes per unit of storage, when running newfs, > one can get more (or fewer) inodew _without_ having to change partition > sizes. Most significantly, one can do this -- change the number of inodes, > that is -- *without* having to destroy/recreate any other partitions on > the same physical device. > > SECONDLY, if this happened -during- the install, and the complaint > was about "/var" -- as distinct from something like '/a/var', or '/mnt/var' > Then the problem is *NOT* on the drives you are installing *ONTO*, but > on the media you are installing _from_. At a guess, the installer is > using /var -- probably /var/tmp -- to keep scratchpad files in, and there > are not enough inodes for the installer. could it be unpacking tarfiles > there, move/copy onto the 'target' media? > > You're installing from a memory stick right? You may need to rebuild > the filesystem on the stick, _manually_ specifying a larger number of > inodes for the filesystem that /var is part of. No that was not the error. The error was something along the lines of: "var/xxxx xxxx" but I don't recall the exact text of the error message - the main point of my previous messages was to point out the missing leading slash, not "/var", but just "var" - which at the time I thought was most unusual. This was happening during an "attempted" install of 9.0RC2 from DVD ISO as in: FreeBSD-9.0-RC2-i386-dvd1.iso and was not an attempt from a memory stick. Thanks for the reply, but based on another reply, I think my problem has stemmed from the use of bsdinstall which apparently doesn't do a very good job of installing a subsequent version of FreeBSD on top of an existing (prior) version of same. Had I been able to upgrade using the normal methods (buildworld and installworld) from 8.2-STABLE to 9.0RC1 or 9.0RC2 I would have, but during the kernel compile process I got a compile time error (that was trying to upgrade to RC1 just prior to the arrival of RC2) and there was no way I could deal with that. Interestingly enough, in looking around following that failed upgrade attempt, the RC1 ISOs and so forth were missing from ftp.freebsd.org which I thought was odd. Shortly thereafter RC2 was being seen around *.freebsd.org in various places, so I must have been making this attempt during the transition from RC1 to RC2 in all the distribution places. This convinced me to burn a new DVD (against the RC2 ISO) but then I got hammered by the not-ready-for-prime-time bsdintall program... :-( Thanks again. Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 22:27:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C768106564A for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:27:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.14.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA2B8FC15 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4EC82D46.58318.20796 ; Authuser web; 19 Nov 2011 17:27:18 EST Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:27:18 -0500 From: William Bulley To: Daniel Staal Message-ID: <20111119222718.GC13594@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Daniel Staal , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where to ask about problems with bsdinstall in 9.0RC2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:27:19 -0000 According to Daniel Staal on Sat, 11/19/11 at 10:06: > > --As for the rest, it is mine. > > Just as a quick digression... > > xz has only marginal improvements in compressed size over bzip2, and takes > a lot more cpu/memory resources to compress. In most cases, I'd say it's > the wrong choice for a compression format. > > However, the one place where it is unequivocally the *best* choice is one > that will make it well known: Distributing archives. It does beat bzip2 by > a small amount, and it's *decompression* time is *much* faster than bzip2 - > on par with gzip. Plus decompression can be done in a fixed amount of RAM, > regardless of the size of the files being uncompressed. For files that are > compressed once and then decompressed many times on many different boxes - > like a FreeBSD release - it's a definite win. > > But for files that will be compressed and uncompressed regularly, or > compressed and usually never touched again, it's worth thinking about > what's the best balance of resources. Thanks for that explanation! :-) Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 22:36:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F1D106566C for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:36:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@umich.edu) Received: from hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu (smtp.mail.umich.edu [141.211.14.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C86E8FC13 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: FROM itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu (itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu [141.213.135.249]) By hackers.mr.itd.umich.edu ID 4EC82F71.D2AC8.25609 ; Authuser web; 19 Nov 2011 17:36:33 EST Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:36:33 -0500 From: William Bulley To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20111119223633.GD13594@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where to ask about problems with bsdinstall in 9.0RC2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:36:35 -0000 According to Matthew Seaman on Sat, 11/19/11 at 03:14: > > xz(1) is the latest compression program around. It usually gets better > results than bzip2 so lots of usages are being switched to it. .txz is > a tar archive compressed with xz. Thanks. Then it is so new that I'd not heard about it while trying to manage my other responsibilities... :-) > Hmmm.. I wonder if the base.txz file on your install media has become > corrupt? If you've got a FreeBSD machine around (any supported 7.x or > 8.x would do), you could just mount your 9.0 disk on it, find that file > wherever it is in the disk, and see if 'tar -tvf base.txz' will show you > the contents without errors. Possible, but unlikely. Plus I doubt that 'tar -tvf base.txz' without a pipe having an "xzcat(1)" in front of the "tar(1)" command. Maybe there is an "xz" option for tar(1) during extraction mode, but my tar(1) man page doesn't list any, sigh... It does list -y and -z options for other compression/decompression modes, hmmm.... :-( > The other possibility is that you ran out of space in the partition you > were trying to write to. You'ld have to open an emergency holographic > shell to investigate (does the new installer even have that wording? It > should...) One thing to check is not only space usage but inode usage > too. There's an ongoing discussion about installing onto small drives > and whether the bytes-to-inode ratio should be modified there. As I have previously stated, my root, /var, and swap partitions are all 4 GB in size, and my /usr partition is 99 GB - likely plenty room in all. > The lack of a leading '/' on the path you saw is normal -- your hard > drive is mounted at something like /mnt while the system is installed > onto it. The installer is just using paths relative to that mountpoint. Well, now that is interesting! I hadn't thought of that possibility... Thanks again for your reply. Regards, web... -- William Bulley Email: web@umich.edu 72 characters width template ----------------------------------------->| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 22:59:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8FB106564A for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:59:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eam1edward@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB5E8FC0C for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:59:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnk5 with SMTP id k5so4758707ggn.13 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:59:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SYmkYu6q7tiSNyzHyK6e1nRseVi0PW+eUC0iBT6fFsU=; b=YBycBFDOC4vj5AKgz5D6/3uVnPDPj+tfEGLHvRavQ5gFxNWyMbuGVUMwYrj4GcRPSv soF8NlaU7mvFwFAko0xQiNeESWGHgL53Waqq3rYanPcoe8qlJjwWjV9HpMlpYwKEYKXs 9VNv64Ip2fRAeoGknhITpf+cUKgRbhgJAeIRQ= Received: by 10.50.197.167 with SMTP id iv7mr8516871igc.46.1321743558107; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:59:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([174.134.109.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jm11sm23000744ibb.1.2011.11.19.14.59.17 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:59:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC84386.1000007@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 16:02:14 -0800 From: Edward Martinez User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.2.20) Gecko/20110804 Thunderbird/3.1.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Bulley References: <20111118230001.GJ8967@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> In-Reply-To: <20111118230001.GJ8967@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: where to ask about problems with bsdinstall in 9.0RC2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:59:19 -0000 On 11/18/11 15:00, William Bulley wrote: > I had some User Interface issues with the Manual > disk partition screen, I got interested and downloaded it to try myself. I installed 9.0 in virtualbox using the guided option and it installed. just wondering if you tried installing with guided option instead of manual? Now I will try using manual and see what happens From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 23:09:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55EC6106566C for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 23:09:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72F48FC12 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 23:09:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe3 with SMTP id 3so3255934wwe.1 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:09:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JXDs1WlzDbgbpIr4x2jfJ/L/A47DICS4ELa1cRA0Mk4=; b=PDSGHL1pW1xPtaYXbdW48SXYBOnC1eXDpQ7YYglJxXNLuHHwdpi0SHyI9SROru4G6H d4dUjSg57iogb3Yy8kGPRgi+cr7JlOW/6X/A1NFtfh2/O8P2oomfRXbQ5zVXAczJzimy K2xd51ab6qvw+IVZD+1O+7PQnKsRZyMVveuFk= Received: by 10.180.80.98 with SMTP id q2mr8534109wix.53.1321744143684; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:09:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from Hp2230s.localhost (81-178-2-118.dsl.pipex.com. [81.178.2.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c2sm6477823wbo.3.2011.11.19.15.09.01 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:09:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC8370C.8010206@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 01:09:00 +0200 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110927 Thunderbird/7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201111191813.pAJIDB1S066601@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201111191813.pAJIDB1S066601@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Syslog server not logging remote machines to file? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 23:09:05 -0000 >> cvthname(192.168.1.1) >> validate: dgram from IP 192.168.1.1, port 59189, name router.domain; >> accepted in rule 0. >> logmsg: pri 275, flags 0, from cisco857w, msg 10048: 010035: Nov 19 >> 10:33:48.037: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by admin on vty0 >> (192.168.1.120) > If we take the 'priority' of that message at face value, > it is a facility value of 34 > and a logging priority of 3 > > On the machines I have access to, facility values stop at _24_. > > The message may be being discarded because of a 'nonsense' priority. I changed the 'facility' value within the IOS itself to kernel: (config)#logging facility kern - and now the generated message shows this: accepted in rule 0. logmsg: pri 15, flags 0, from cisco857w, msg 10146: 010133: Nov 19 23:05:54.538: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by admin on vty0 (192.168.0.53 still not logging to file though :-( ?? > >> The file is mentioned in syslogd config and seems to be loaded within >> the configuration: >> >> { >> >> cfline("*.* /var/log/cisco857w.log", f, "*", >> "+192.168.1.1") >> >> 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 X FILE: >> /var/log/cisco857w.log > _THAT_ lookks like only _24_ known 'facility' values. > >> # ls -l /var/log | grep cisco857 >> -rw------- 1 root wheel 0 Nov 18 16:32 cisco857w.log > And, I presume that when you are invoking syslogd in 'debug' mode, you > are running as superuser. Yep, that is correct! Am using: su - >> So after all this looks {**perfect**} what can this mysterious problem be?? >> > I'm _guessing_ that the apparent 'facility' value of 34 is a good candidate. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 23:26:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895A71065670 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 23:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A14E8FC08 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 23:26:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl11 with SMTP id l11so5302392yen.13 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:26:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pT6M3RIxzOHpmrz0063CVNewrmIj10XP3EH2i7Fq5wA=; b=ZIY3xSbfZLq7IFK4ou3BnSLRd0X/cPLApyB0eET4iosFkZEpV5AjhCJaU3prFJo3eW lNs5I6yjw2b/87ynVSJNL2uWbE3BYD7y3TDFP3D2AE1qUutztdKhUkUsqeTsbvYGmne9 afxE5q4kY3BJLM8Quypt3nBAsqLw5EhZB4F+k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.136.167 with SMTP id w27mr12571293yhi.65.1321745214602; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:26:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.138.9 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:26:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EC6C506.2090206@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <005301cca2b7$add11f20$09735d60$@co.ke> <4EC13877.3070704@bio.umass.edu> <4EC6BC2F.5030907@bio.umass.edu> <4EC6C506.2090206@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:26:54 -0500 Message-ID: From: Robert Simmons To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.2-RELEASE-p4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 23:26:55 -0000 On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > If you compile your own kernel, then freebsd-update will patch the > kernel sources, but leave you to rebuild and reinstall your customized > kernel. > > I don't know about the -p4 update. =A0By rights it should have involved > updating the kernel by one or other of the two methods shown. =A0So far > however, we've seen two reports questioning that[*] and none saying that > the -p4 update did in fact update the kernel. =A0Which is suspicious, but > hardly conclusive. Do you compile your own kernel, or do you have a machine that uses GENERIC? If you do, what is the output of uname -a on it?