From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 00:01:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C8D1746 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 00:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F4F82FC6 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 00:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-69-249.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.69.249]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 542573CC3F; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 02:01:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s73016KZ002456; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 02:01:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 02:01:06 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: permission problems w/ ordinary user .... Message-Id: <20140803020106.9696cf18.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53DD7AAD.4000902@hiwaay.net> References: <53DD742F.3020408@hiwaay.net> <20140803014039.75f4b2f9.freebsd@edvax.de> <53DD7AAD.4000902@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 00:01:08 -0000 On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 18:56:29 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 08/02/14 18:40, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 18:28:47 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> .... I have been trying to setup the regular user (me, non-root) on my > >> newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 box. I tried su-ing from tooy & ssh-ing in as > >> me from another box, both give weird results, see the following from my > >> syslog: > >> > >> [...] > >> Aug 2 18:23:01 kabini1 sshd[1252]: _secure_path: cannot stat > >> /home/wam/.login_conf: Permission denied > >> > >> > >> also, the home-directory keeps getting the 'x' permission bit set to off > >> by .... something .... > > I think you have described the reason for the problem: > > The x attribute for a directory means "enter and search" > > and should be _set_ for the user. If it's not, the user > > cannot enter his own home directory or access files > > within it. In this case, /home/wam/.login_conf cannot > > be read which seems to be neccessary for the login > > process. > > > > You need to find that "something" that created or altered > > /home/wam with the x attribute off. Login as root and > > correct the setting manually, so you should be able to > > login afterwards. > > > > This is how the resulting "ls -l /home" output it should > > look like for your user: > > > > drwx------ [...] wam wam [...] wam/ > > ^ > > > > (This is minimum permissions; drwxrwxr-x or drwxr-x--- > > are other common examples.) > > > > How did you introduce the user to the system? Did you > > use "adduser" or "pw add"? > > I used useradd as root, & the permissions were set correctly to begin > with. Okay, so a "problem upon initiation" does not occur. > I suspect that the failed logins are triggering the reset, but w/ > little proof .... This is _very_ strange. Do you have anything in your login scripts, like ~/.cshrc (or ~/.tcshrc), ~/.login or ~/.profile that looks "offending"? > I have reset the perms as root several times during > this exercise, & they keep getting unset after the login failure .... I'm not sure what part of the system could trigger that behavuiour, it just sounds totally wrong... However, you could run truss on an login attempt to see what the process does (invisibly), calling /bin/chmod via execve() or by chmod() or popen(). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 00:08:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE3B197C for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 00:08:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 606EA200A for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 00:08:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s73085n7046265; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 02:08:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4B2E2123F1; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 02:08:05 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 02:08:05 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.3 new install problems .... Message-ID: <20140803000805.GB34503@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <53DAFCF2.2070909@hiwaay.net> <53DB9797.1010702@hiwaay.net> <20140801164335.GA16376@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53DBF71D.3080807@hiwaay.net> <20140801232843.GB17393@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53DCF32A.30700@hiwaay.net> <20140802185442.GA28910@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53DD533D.7090700@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53DD533D.7090700@hiwaay.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 00:08:07 -0000 --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 04:08:13PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > I like ZFS, but I decided that my puny little 25W 1.3 ghz CPU was gonna > choke on checksums & not get anything else done, hence the switch back > to UFS. I came up w/ a slightly hairbrained solution. I created a stripe > of the 3 remaining 20 GB partitions, copied everything under /usr over > to it, & plan to mount it as /usr. 1 question: as of now, /usr is taking > up 1.1 GB out of 1.7 GB on my 20 GB root partition. With such a limited > root FS, I want every available byte available for duty. Is there any > way to delete what's under /usr on the fly before the mount of the /usr > stripe to recover that space back for the rest of the install ? I have > only done the base install as of now, will be installing X, XFCE, LXDE, > & who knows what else .... Probably the best way to go about that is to make dump(8)s of all filesyste= ms and save them on an external disk. The start a live-CD, and using gpart(8) delete the partitions you think are incorrectly sized, and create new ones with the correct sizes. If possible, leave the boot partition alone and use the same parition for the same filesystem as before. For sizes, I tend to use the following; / 500 MiB - 1 GiB /usr 20 GiB /var 3 GiB /tmp 20 GiB My /home partition gets the rest. Use newfs to create new filesystems, and then use restore(8) to put all data back. > P.S. sorry for me klutzy nomenclature, I am calling /dev/ada0p3 a > partition, when as you correctly observe it is a device .... my bad, & > maybe the source of confusion in my posts :-/ .... No, you are correct; ada0 is the device, ada0p3 is a parition. It is just t= hat gstripe is generally used on raw disks instead of partitions. (If you want = to tie partitions on one disk together it's probably better to re-partition). = But you can basically use any geom provider. 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Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: automount .... Message-Id: <20140803034908.f2588e88.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53DD79D3.9000900@hiwaay.net> References: <53DD79D3.9000900@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 01:49:13 -0000 On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 18:52:51 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > .... I am interested in using automount (amd) as both client & server on > my newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 box. Actually, the server part already .... > just works, automagically, however I can't figure out anything about > client operations. The man page is dense & a quart low on examples .... > Anyone have any clues, maybe some simple config files ? TIA .... I haven't been using amd automounts for a long time, but if I remember correctly, there is no client-side configuration needed. As soon as a resource is requested (via FTP, SFTP, NFS, CIFS, ...), amd will make the resource available. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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A plain LaserJet 2100 does not, Mine does, it's the 2100tn model, has native ps level-II http://people.virginia.edu/~cavcomp2/printers/hp/2100/2100.htm > Sorry, I don't understand the question. Well, my first question was: Why under the current filter setting does lpd = scrape or cut 4 lines from the top? I'm able to get the hard copy the way I= want it to look by increasing the top margin by 4 lines, save it as a ps f= ile, then lpr the file from command line. The ghostscript comment was referring to previous discussion - sorry for th= e confusion: If I want to print in r: 300 x 300, the only way that's going = to happen is by sending it through ghostscript, if I understand correctly? = How could I modify psif so that "lpr -Php2100 -r300 somefile.ps" would resu= lt in 1. check if ps 2. adjust for one of available resolution options (300= OR 600). I hope I was a bit better at explaining this time :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 08:11:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F02E599 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 08:11:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D18312B26 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 08:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s738BS6G023669 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 09:11:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=infracaninophile.co.uk DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s738BS6G023669 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1407053488; bh=56AZJBQQGdDZ+q8rwIksiXDu7dK4GQbO+4XqrN1xcvU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Sun,=2003=20Aug=202014=2009:11:15=20+0100|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20freebsd-questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20FreeBSD=20lists=20and=20DKIM|Refe rences:=20<1407011530.3895.84.camel@btw.pki2.com>|In-Reply-To:=20< 1407011530.3895.84.camel@btw.pki2.com>; b=eX0q7uSax+Tr2HX8IAE5LzsllLv3/bQqUiuRB6rEy0BC2fK7tZHTcJyJs01/YX0/M SI1e/81lbrAGBdjR9XqECk4Tjcwt1cbiEqcZDAtPW0+PrklflWR8L94GKb8zVK4an6 F6gLsdChQPJcwe6wsEhIHArZRjgLY09KeIsr0sjw= Message-ID: <53DDEEA3.4060702@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:11:15 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD lists and DKIM References: <1407011530.3895.84.camel@btw.pki2.com> In-Reply-To: <1407011530.3895.84.camel@btw.pki2.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 OpenPGP: id=E1ECF9BB Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kxCJIOFKXBrOGATVCEO2EtqCSCp8IqCN8" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 08:11:37 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --kxCJIOFKXBrOGATVCEO2EtqCSCp8IqCN8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/08/2014 21:32, Dennis Glatting wrote: > Mail coming through the FreeBSD lists often breaks messages signed > through DKIM. What is the policy to resolve this issue? >=20 > Turning off DKIM isn't an option. If there is a signature, such as > someone in the chain coming through gmail, it must validate or the > message is rejected. I understand this is a common problem for email > lists and there are patches available to reformat messages. >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6377 >=20 > The best general recommendation for dealing with MLMs is that the ML= M > or an MTA in the MLM's domain apply its own DKIM signature to each > message it forwards and that assessors on the receiving end consider= > the MLM's domain signature in making their assessments. (See > Section 5, especially Section 5.2.) If you're in charge of the systems *sending* the DKIM signed messages, then choose the set of mail headers the signature is based on carefully: avoid any headers that would tend to be re-written during processing by the mailing list software. On the receiving side: allow for mailing lists to add trailers to messages that pass. Don't base your acept/reject decisions entirely on whether the message passes or fails DKIM or other tests. The way Spamassassin handles such things is the way to go: DKIM, SPF, automatic white-listing all make a weighted contribution to calculating the score. The advice for the MLM to apply it's own signature to a message is problematic in that it magnifies the cpu load required to process messages quite a lot. At least with DKIM it is possible to do that: compare to what would be needed with SPF, where the MLM would be forced to resend the message as *originating* from the mailing list itself. Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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When run as root "pkg info" shows a few packages, but most not. This is fbsd 8.4, pkg version 1.3.3 on a diskless machine (9.1 as nfs server). Is there any recipe on how to proceed? I'd very much be willing to rebuild the sqlite database from zero but don't know how. Many thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 09:27:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26FF5698 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 09:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout07.plus.net (avasout07.plus.net [84.93.230.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B039823E7 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 09:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout07 with smtp id a9Ps1o006516WCc019PuNg; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 10:23:54 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=ANQ+opto c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=_gelNhxkGRwA:10 a=hwM1wLRBKg8A:10 a=Oeht2JMO8_wA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=nc1ycHfYPIojY-x0Jd8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.83) (envelope-from ) id 1XDs1A-00013U-AW; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 10:23:52 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 10:23:51 +0100 Message-ID: <2489109.sNVhnsNWVW@curlew.lan> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.5 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE-p17; KDE/4.12.5; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <53DD7B4D.90903@hiwaay.net> References: <53DD742F.3020408@hiwaay.net> <20140802234554.GA34503@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53DD7B4D.90903@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Subject: Re: permission problems w/ ordinary user .... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) Cc: "William A. Mahaffey III" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:27:05 -0000 On Saturday 02 August 2014 18:59:09 William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 08/02/14 18:45, Roland Smith wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 06:28:47PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: [snip] > >> I can ssh in as root no sweat > > > > Yikes. That is usually the first thing I'd disable! > > > > > > Roland > > I do that (easy root login) on purpose, my LAN is not internet > exposed (except when I'm browsing) You can make things a bit more secure by requiring ssh keys instead of a password for remote access. Use ssh-keygen to generate your keys then append your ~/ssh/id_rsa.pub to /root/.ssh/authorized_keys on the machine where you need root access. Then make these changes to /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the remote machine and restart sshd. --- /usr/src/crypto/openssh/sshd_config 2013-01-12 13:21:39.235909173 +0000 +++ /etc/ssh/sshd_config 2013-01-12 13:20:23.078909059 +0000 @@ -45,4 +45,5 @@ #LoginGraceTime 2m #PermitRootLogin no +PermitRootLogin without-password #StrictModes yes #MaxAuthTries 6 @@ -64,5 +65,5 @@ # Change to yes to enable built-in password authentication. -#PasswordAuthentication no +PasswordAuthentication no #PermitEmptyPasswords no NB. If you don't have physical access to the remote machine then be very careful not to make any mistakes which could lock you out of it. In particular make sure you have set up your keys and edited /root/.ssh/authorized_keys correctly before reconfiguring sshd. To be on the safe side confirm that you can make a successful remote login from another terminal window before closing your current remote session. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 09:44:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2276A97 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 09:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6ACA22573 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 09:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s739i21s025753 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 10:44:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=infracaninophile.co.uk DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s739i21s025753 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1407059043; bh=Nz1WFCtXhNaGAQ8zHIRekXM+Bj0UTS6TlkTdhlCngUE=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Sun,=2003=20Aug=202014=2010:43:54=20+0100|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20freebsd-questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20pkg:=20sqlite=20error=20while=20e xecuting=20PRAGMA=20user_version|References:=20|In-Reply-To:=20; b=h2oliaBY14ZjRQYM3UINSbAYAf/sn5ArXasejHtUiTLyYKqlIgbKU1OR2d6twoFUf 0te4qnhE9fjmyE2+Zb0VOGfnCVuRvN/27FyOCvtmUsA+2VHyDhG88mzy+LIUYlaoEj UyBffpwQEPwtnEgCb8ulooE5FMc6PyAuf0fLa81k= Message-ID: <53DE045A.7080009@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 10:43:54 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg: sqlite error while executing PRAGMA user_version References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 OpenPGP: id=E1ECF9BB Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hQ4RJo2EX9otcJgUKPGDhN3CX2c89i22j" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:44:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --hQ4RJo2EX9otcJgUKPGDhN3CX2c89i22j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/08/2014 10:16, Wolfgang Hukriede wrote: > I'm getting >=20 > host> pkg info > pkg: sqlite error while executing PRAGMA user_version; in file pkgdb.c:= 2284: database is locked >=20 > I already tried to reboot, rm /var/db/pkg/repo* to no effect. >=20 > When run as root "pkg info" shows a few packages, but most not. >=20 > This is fbsd 8.4, pkg version 1.3.3 on a diskless machine (9.1 as nfs > server). >=20 > Is there any recipe on how to proceed? I'd very much be willing to > rebuild the sqlite database from zero but don't know how. Using sqlite on an NFS mounted partition is unfortunately liable to various locking problems. pkg(8) should be NFS resistant, but it may not be resistant enough... Can you try this: # pkg shell SQLite version 3.8.5 2014-06-04 14:06:34 Enter ".help" for usage hints. sqlite> select * from pkg_lock ; 0|0|0 sqlite> select * from pkg_lock_pid ; sqlite> .quit That shows the expected output when there are no active locks in the system. If you system already shows that, then unfortunately it's a fundamental problem with trying to lock the database on NFS, and will require an updated version of pkg(8) to fix. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j65sm15565997qgf.22.2014.08.03.03.17.04 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Aug 2014 03:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com [76.182.104.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3hQynq2Ckvz3DlWm for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 06:17:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 06:17:02 -0400 From: Jerry To: User questions Subject: PC Not Visible On Other Machines Message-ID: <20140803061702.36b42de9@scorpio> Reply-To: User questions Organization: seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 10:17:06 -0000 Sun, 3 Aug 2014 06:14:32 -0400 FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p7 This is the first time this has ever happened that I am aware of. I tried Googling but found nothing related to it. Yesterday, my MTA, Postfix stop working because it could not get SASL authentication. That was because dovecot had failed to start. Dovecot failed to start because it could not find its “PEM” files. It could not find its “PEM” files because the “/etc/ssl” directory was gone. I have no idea how that happened. I recreated the directory and the “PEM” files and that fixed the Dovecot/Postfix problem. Now, I have another problem. My machine no longer shows up in the network listing on any of my Windows machines. I have one Win 8.1 and two Win 7 machines and on all of them, the FreeBSD machine is gone. I did a complete reboot of every one of them but the problem continues. I made sure that Samba was working so that does no appear to be the problem. If I manually enter the machine name in the address bar on a Windows machine; i.e., \\MyPC, I can access it. This makes no sense. Other than having to do a complete reinstall of FreeBSD, something I have had to do in the past when things got totally F/U, is there something I should check first? There is no firewall running on the FreeBSD machine presently, so I can rule that out. -- Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 11:10:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC22564E for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 11:10:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 767532F74 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 11:10:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s73BAmHi054987 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 13:10:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8B169123A8; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 13:10:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 13:10:48 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: User questions Subject: Re: PC Not Visible On Other Machines Message-ID: <20140803111048.GA44474@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: User questions References: <20140803061702.36b42de9@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140803061702.36b42de9@scorpio> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 11:10:59 -0000 --G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 06:17:02AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > Sun, 3 Aug 2014 06:14:32 -0400 >=20 > FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p7 >=20 > =EF=BB=BFThis is the first time this has ever happened that I am aware of= =2E I tried > Googling but found nothing related to it. >=20 > Yesterday, my MTA, Postfix stop working because it could not get SASL > authentication. That was because dovecot had failed to start. Dovecot fai= led > to start because it could not find its =E2=80=9CPEM=E2=80=9D files. It co= uld not find its > =E2=80=9CPEM=E2=80=9D files because the =E2=80=9C/etc/ssl=E2=80=9D direct= ory was gone. I have no idea how > that happened. I recreated the directory and the =E2=80=9CPEM=E2=80=9D fi= les and that fixed > the Dovecot/Postfix problem. Now, I have another problem. My machine no > longer shows up in the network listing on any of my Windows machines. I h= ave > one Win 8.1 and two Win 7 machines and on all of them, the FreeBSD machin= e is > gone. I did a complete reboot of every one of them but the problem contin= ues. > I made sure that Samba was working so that does no appear to be the probl= em. > If I manually enter the machine name in the address bar on a Windows mach= ine; > i.e., \\MyPC, I can access it. >=20 > This makes no sense. Other than having to do a complete reinstall of Free= BSD, > something I have had to do in the past when things got totally F/U, is th= ere > something I should check first? Directories do not just disappear. If you are sure you didn't accidentally delete them the directories in question, use e.g. sysutils/smartmontools to check the health of your harddisk, and do a full fsck on your filesystems. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT3hi4AAoJEED21dyjijPgetsQAMHFxJ/Am3LWivRXptr+fciz fiodHZIXjFacZUnmraMfgX/AhmXao7w2Z+1A95M3BHFAl50Cl911r4JUCYLYnBmd QKHTd9HZxT3FfNsr8cMhL+Oy1EcWSTOdmd+jRSv6RsunhfHwQ4xIE6XEDSamf9gS gnZvAWUcxvsjWZn++BFP0Yku0wLWGmawm0lWrX8MHQNvLN+xzwXcaxCXXji1RjXp wFOtniMWkSmdBy9aGzr72zqzefIyDfsYMRhiXLJFMny+4khEB70pr7LeqB16kya0 7fYW3bxbL9WV1iwnXCfNEkF11S0fsWZ1mNi4YFc0sAclmvNqTAgaosYlZJj9Yiup uo5fi2ob1TJPyOMYItr+75lAwh/aY4bRFf19ecFCcD0sDeCjJjwoP6uAJ85cXYR7 2BMGglgwXuXJocm9lQUiqoupbPo0WGFeJiEuBNmrdt1H2Wruu7/98d8MGGqoYoGJ 9NuQSyUnvwkCEy+kiS0b4+ptH0TBs9cKIFu/KNOzoE973TS8n43O1jPtH8lHo9fq ZlycRKbkhQe79yj/jxCcmajzaBK5kRA+DAAcGFc3gBhrQhExHl269TQtMn3GdAYB 2p3jb9yV3wXktyCap6aR+vDX2Uj5Ktka2Td9tIO6UaiV7x1tGh2jM4FBpdWwmnXF 39VWHWnKcife11quuc2C =hEUh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 11:38:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B28A7D53 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 11:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [198.71.6.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A74721CB for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 11:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sas1.nber.org (sas1.nber.org [198.71.6.185]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s73BKXvD048998 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 3 Aug 2014 07:20:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 07:20:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: automount .... In-Reply-To: <53DD79D3.9000900@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: References: <53DD79D3.9000900@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (LRH 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20140401 #7726142, check: 20140803 clean Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 11:38:53 -0000 On Sat, 2 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > .... I am interested in using automount (amd) as both client & server on my > newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 box. Actually, the server part already .... just > works, automagically, however I can't figure out anything about client > operations. The man page is dense & a quart low on examples .... Anyone have > any clues, maybe some simple config files ? TIA .... I am not sure what you mean by client and server in the context of amd, but I did write an amd on FreeBSD tutorial years ago, which still reads well: http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/amd.html Daniel Feenberg > > > -- > > William A. Mahaffey III > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. 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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t3sm25682777qak.18.2014.08.03.05.17.25 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Aug 2014 05:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com [76.182.104.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3hR1Sh17Gwz3DlWm for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 08:17:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 08:17:23 -0400 From: Jerry To: User questions Subject: Re: PC Not Visible On Other Machines Message-ID: <20140803081723.4a9c1ecf@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20140803111048.GA44474@slackbox.erewhon.home> References: <20140803061702.36b42de9@scorpio> <20140803111048.GA44474@slackbox.erewhon.home> Reply-To: User questions Organization: seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:17:26 -0000 On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 13:10:48 +0200, Roland Smith stated: {snip] >Directories do not just disappear. If you are sure you didn't accidentally >delete them the directories in question, use e.g. sysutils/smartmontools to >check the health of your harddisk, and do a full fsck on your filesystems. I have checked the drive and it appears to be fine. In any case, that would not explain why this PC is no longer being detected on other PC's. -- Jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 12:55:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D81A07CF for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 12:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3A7C2A12 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 12:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-216.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.216]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s73Ct8NL013698 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 07:55:08 -0500 Message-ID: <53DE32A3.3010606@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 08:01:23 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: permission problems w/ ordinary user .... References: <53DD742F.3020408@hiwaay.net> <20140803014039.75f4b2f9.freebsd@edvax.de> <53DD7AAD.4000902@hiwaay.net> <20140803020106.9696cf18.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140803020106.9696cf18.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:55:11 -0000 On 08/02/14 19:01, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 18:56:29 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 08/02/14 18:40, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 18:28:47 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> .... I have been trying to setup the regular user (me, non-root) on my >>>> newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 box. I tried su-ing from tooy & ssh-ing in as >>>> me from another box, both give weird results, see the following from my >>>> syslog: >>>> >>>> [...] >>>> Aug 2 18:23:01 kabini1 sshd[1252]: _secure_path: cannot stat >>>> /home/wam/.login_conf: Permission denied >>>> >>>> >>>> also, the home-directory keeps getting the 'x' permission bit set to off >>>> by .... something .... >>> I think you have described the reason for the problem: >>> The x attribute for a directory means "enter and search" >>> and should be _set_ for the user. If it's not, the user >>> cannot enter his own home directory or access files >>> within it. In this case, /home/wam/.login_conf cannot >>> be read which seems to be neccessary for the login >>> process. >>> >>> You need to find that "something" that created or altered >>> /home/wam with the x attribute off. Login as root and >>> correct the setting manually, so you should be able to >>> login afterwards. >>> >>> This is how the resulting "ls -l /home" output it should >>> look like for your user: >>> >>> drwx------ [...] wam wam [...] wam/ >>> ^ >>> >>> (This is minimum permissions; drwxrwxr-x or drwxr-x--- >>> are other common examples.) >>> >>> How did you introduce the user to the system? Did you >>> use "adduser" or "pw add"? >> I used useradd as root, & the permissions were set correctly to begin >> with. > Okay, so a "problem upon initiation" does not occur. > > > >> I suspect that the failed logins are triggering the reset, but w/ >> little proof .... > This is _very_ strange. Do you have anything in your login > scripts, like ~/.cshrc (or ~/.tcshrc), ~/.login or ~/.profile > that looks "offending"? Nothing I can see .... I am setting aliases & the like, but nothing fancy //// > > > >> I have reset the perms as root several times during >> this exercise, & they keep getting unset after the login failure .... > I'm not sure what part of the system could trigger that behavuiour, > it just sounds totally wrong... > > However, you could run truss on an login attempt to see what > the process does (invisibly), calling /bin/chmod via execve() > or by chmod() or popen(). I eventually noticed that the default ~/.login_conf had an entry, commented out. I uncommented it, reset the perms, logged in & out several times, & everything went AOK. Noob observation: that entry should be uncommented from the factory :-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 12:59:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70E72880 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 12:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CCC42A3A for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 12:59:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-216.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.216]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s73CxOFr018641 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 07:59:24 -0500 Message-ID: <53DE33A3.3020902@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 08:05:39 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: permission problems w/ ordinary user .... References: <53DD742F.3020408@hiwaay.net> <20140802234554.GA34503@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53DD7B4D.90903@hiwaay.net> <2489109.sNVhnsNWVW@curlew.lan> In-Reply-To: <2489109.sNVhnsNWVW@curlew.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:59:25 -0000 On 08/03/14 04:23, Mike Clarke wrote: > On Saturday 02 August 2014 18:59:09 William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 08/02/14 18:45, Roland Smith wrote: >>> On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 06:28:47PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III > wrote: > > [snip] > >>>> I can ssh in as root no sweat >>> Yikes. That is usually the first thing I'd disable! >>> >>> >>> Roland >> I do that (easy root login) on purpose, my LAN is not internet >> exposed (except when I'm browsing) > You can make things a bit more secure by requiring ssh keys instead of > a password for remote access. > > Use ssh-keygen to generate your keys then append your ~/ssh/id_rsa.pub > to /root/.ssh/authorized_keys on the machine where you need root > access. > > Then make these changes to /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the remote machine > and restart sshd. > > --- /usr/src/crypto/openssh/sshd_config 2013-01-12 13:21:39.235909173 > +0000 > +++ /etc/ssh/sshd_config 2013-01-12 13:20:23.078909059 +0000 > @@ -45,4 +45,5 @@ > #LoginGraceTime 2m > #PermitRootLogin no > +PermitRootLogin without-password > #StrictModes yes > #MaxAuthTries 6 > @@ -64,5 +65,5 @@ > > # Change to yes to enable built-in password authentication. > -#PasswordAuthentication no > +PasswordAuthentication no > #PermitEmptyPasswords no > > NB. If you don't have physical access to the remote machine then be > very careful not to make any mistakes which could lock you out of it. > In particular make sure you have set up your keys and edited > /root/.ssh/authorized_keys correctly before reconfiguring sshd. To be > on the safe side confirm that you can make a successful remote login > from another terminal window before closing your current remote > session. This (keyed access) is how I have every machine on my network setup, just haven't gotten there yet w/ this (very new) box. *High* on my TODO list .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. 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In the meantime I discovered that "pkg info" works on the diskless box when invoked as root. I then tried "pkg upgrade -n" and "pkg upgrade". This worked after some contortions. (It first said "locked", while the second or third attempt was ok.) Becoming somewhat more confident I tried a "pkg delete nnn", but interrupted that with control-c. This seems to have been a mistake, because now I get "database is locked" consistently and nothing works, while output for "select * from pkg_lock" is "1|1|0" and "select * from pkg_lock_pid" returns a number (A pid? But there's no process with that pid). Any way to remove to lock? Thank you! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 13:31:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C591578 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 13:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A5572EE0 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 13:31:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s73DUr61031293 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 3 Aug 2014 14:30:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=infracaninophile.co.uk DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s73DUr61031293 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1407072653; bh=92qeAbalkWSkeC/R9t/yPENIpvR4obNC8cCRK5YLc1w=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Sun,=2003=20Aug=202014=2014:30:44=20+0100|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20Wolfgang=20Huk riede=20,=20=0D=0A=20freebsd-questions@freebs d.org|Subject:=20Re:=20pkg:=20sqlite=20error=20while=20executing=2 0PRAGMA=20user_version|References:=20|In-Reply-To:=20; b=jgJ+b+WsUbkgIJAy+mry/BL64PYG3fNQkIxTT5wgCBdR3gNfLoVsVlszvhAXwHhWT +VLB1y0lpX56Ux+yUeQWSVUBGkdvR4xyeDe5N2BS9ruEMyBrrwfjXrtUb1+9593Z+n AAPKtQAcGjeBP+vSUwg/C5KJsXWuEVup3lStwalA= Message-ID: <53DE3984.1020405@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:30:44 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wolfgang Hukriede , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg: sqlite error while executing PRAGMA user_version References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 OpenPGP: id=E1ECF9BB Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sRkTXgkwnUeKnQ3tRWlv9vimSLHeAlb3A" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:31:01 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --sRkTXgkwnUeKnQ3tRWlv9vimSLHeAlb3A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/08/2014 14:09, Wolfgang Hukriede wrote: > Matthew Seaman wrote: >=20 > # pkg shell > SQLite version 3.8.5 2014-06-04 14:06:34 > Enter ".help" for usage hints. > sqlite> select * from pkg_lock ; > 0|0|0 > sqlite> select * from pkg_lock_pid ; > sqlite> .quit >=20 > Yes, this is what I get. >=20 > In the meantime I discovered that "pkg info" works on the diskless box > when invoked as root. I then tried "pkg upgrade -n" and "pkg upgrade". > This worked after some contortions. (It first said "locked", while > the second or third attempt was ok.) >=20 > Becoming somewhat more confident I tried a "pkg delete nnn", but > interrupted that with control-c. This seems to have been a mistake, > because now I get "database is locked" consistently and nothing works, > while output for "select * from pkg_lock" is "1|1|0" and "select * > from pkg_lock_pid" returns a number (A pid? But there's no process > with that pid). >=20 > Any way to remove to lock?=20 OK. This is unsupported and requires you to run SQL commands manually directly against your local package DB. Fat-finger this and you can cause catastrophic results. Use at your own risk. Slippery when wet. Beware of dog. Backup your database first. # pkg shell SQLite version 3.8.5 2014-06-04 14:06:34 Enter ".help" for usage hints. sqlite> update pkg_lock set exclusive=3D0,advisory=3D0,read=3D0 ; sqlite> select * from pkg_lock ; 0|0|0 sqlite> delete from pkg_lock_pid ; sqlite> select * from pkg_lock_pid ; sqlite> .quit We offer no guarantees that the sqlite schema will remain compatible in any future version of pkg(8). The locking system in particular has been seen to be in need of attention after recent pkg(8) releases. Good luck. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: permission problems w/ ordinary user .... Message-ID: <20140803135137.GA67311@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <53DD742F.3020408@hiwaay.net> <20140803014039.75f4b2f9.freebsd@edvax.de> <53DD7AAD.4000902@hiwaay.net> <20140803020106.9696cf18.freebsd@edvax.de> <53DE32A3.3010606@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53DE32A3.3010606@hiwaay.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:51:47 -0000 --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 08:01:23AM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> I have reset the perms as root several times during > >> this exercise, & they keep getting unset after the login failure .... > > I'm not sure what part of the system could trigger that behavuiour, > > it just sounds totally wrong... > > > > However, you could run truss on an login attempt to see what > > the process does (invisibly), calling /bin/chmod via execve() > > or by chmod() or popen(). >=20 >=20 > I eventually noticed that the default ~/.login_conf had an entry,=20 > commented out. I uncommented it, reset the perms, logged in & out=20 > several times, & everything went AOK. If you aren't using it, you can delete ~/.login_conf, then you'll get the default from /etc/login.conf. > Noob observation: that entry should be uncommented from the factory :-) .= =2E.. I don't think so. The settings in ~/.login_conf are an override to those in /etc/login.conf, so it shouldn't matter if it's empty. And this example (which comes from /usr/share/skel/dot.login_conf) sets your charset to iso-8859-1 and language to German. That might not be what you want... 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Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: automount .... References: <53DD79D3.9000900@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:01:27 -0000 On 08/03/14 06:20, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > > On Sat, 2 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> >> >> .... I am interested in using automount (amd) as both client & server >> on my newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 box. Actually, the server part already >> .... just works, automagically, however I can't figure out anything >> about client operations. The man page is dense & a quart low on >> examples .... Anyone have any clues, maybe some simple config files ? >> TIA .... > > I am not sure what you mean by client and server in the context of > amd, but I did write an amd on FreeBSD tutorial years ago, which still > reads well: > > http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/amd.html > > Daniel Feenberg Nice read, I notice that some of your info seems to be in the default amd setup now. I also notice that the man pages are a bit dated (Apr 21, 2006), Are there any plans to update that :-) ? I got amd running, it seems to work OK, except that it drops a mount after 5 min. active or not. I can't see anything to twiddle in the amd.conf file, any clues ? TIA .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 14:03:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5B82DD2 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 14:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A114E21F1 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 14:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-216.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.216]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s73E3aar021853 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 09:03:36 -0500 Message-ID: <53DE42AF.9030601@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:09:51 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: permission problems w/ ordinary user .... References: <53DD742F.3020408@hiwaay.net> <20140803014039.75f4b2f9.freebsd@edvax.de> <53DD7AAD.4000902@hiwaay.net> <20140803020106.9696cf18.freebsd@edvax.de> <53DE32A3.3010606@hiwaay.net> <20140803135137.GA67311@slackbox.erewhon.home> In-Reply-To: <20140803135137.GA67311@slackbox.erewhon.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:03:37 -0000 On 08/03/14 08:51, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 08:01:23AM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> I have reset the perms as root several times during >>>> this exercise, & they keep getting unset after the login failure .... >>> I'm not sure what part of the system could trigger that behavuiour, >>> it just sounds totally wrong... >>> >>> However, you could run truss on an login attempt to see what >>> the process does (invisibly), calling /bin/chmod via execve() >>> or by chmod() or popen(). >> >> I eventually noticed that the default ~/.login_conf had an entry, >> commented out. I uncommented it, reset the perms, logged in & out >> several times, & everything went AOK. > If you aren't using it, you can delete ~/.login_conf, then you'll get the > default from /etc/login.conf. > >> Noob observation: that entry should be uncommented from the factory :-) .... > I don't think so. The settings in ~/.login_conf are an override to those in > /etc/login.conf, so it shouldn't matter if it's empty. > > And this example (which comes from /usr/share/skel/dot.login_conf) sets your > charset to iso-8859-1 and language to German. That might not be what you > want... > > Roland Yeah, I reset it to 'en_EN' .... uncommenting that entry did seem to fix my problem, but who knows .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 14:07:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10E61EF1 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 14:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87E612222 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 14:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s73E7P5x061429 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 16:07:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9576B123BC; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 16:07:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 16:07:25 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: User questions Subject: Re: PC Not Visible On Other Machines Message-ID: <20140803140725.GB67311@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: User questions References: <20140803061702.36b42de9@scorpio> <20140803111048.GA44474@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20140803081723.4a9c1ecf@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140803081723.4a9c1ecf@scorpio> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:07:35 -0000 --TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 08:17:23AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 13:10:48 +0200, Roland Smith stated: >=20 > {snip] >=20 > >Directories do not just disappear. If you are sure you didn't accidental= ly > >delete them the directories in question, use e.g. sysutils/smartmontools= to > >check the health of your harddisk, and do a full fsck on your filesystem= s. >=20 > I have checked the drive and it appears to be fine. In any case, that wou= ld > not explain why this PC is no longer being detected on other PC's. At a guess, I'd say that there was something wrong with either Samba or whatever is acting as primary domain controller. Make sure that /usr/local/etc/smb.conf and (if you are using the smbpasswd) /usr/local/etc/samba/smbpasswd still exist and are accessible. If you enabled the swat option when building samba, you can also go to http://localhost:901 to see what samba thinks its configuration it. 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No way to backup the database: # pkg backup -d /var/db/pkg/db-backup pkg: sqlite error while executing PRAGMA user_version; in file pkgdb.c:2284: database is locked Ok, leave that for later... Continue with # pkg shell SQLite version 3.8.5 2014-06-04 14:06:34 Enter ".help" for usage hints. sqlite> update pkg_lock set exclusive=0,advisory=0,read=0 ; sqlite> select * from pkg_lock ; 0|0|0 sqlite> delete from pkg_lock_pid ; sqlite> select * from pkg_lock_pid ; sqlite> .quit Okay, but still: # pkg info pkg: sqlite error while executing PRAGMA user_version; in file pkgdb.c:2284: database is locked I then removed local.sqlite.lock/ by hand. Good, "pkg info" works again! Then I tried to relax permissions on /var/db/pkg with the idea to make "pkg info" work for non-root users. "pkg" nicely detects and defeats this: > pkg info pkg: /var/db/pkg permissions (0775) too lax So, that's impossible. Anyways, I seem to remember that NFS lockfiles should go to /tmp/ or /var/tmp/ ? Many thanks! 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What could be causing it? This is just a few of the hundreds that are in the file. Aug 2 21:12:28 scorpio kernel: pid 2306 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Aug 2 21:51:40 scorpio kernel: pid 2373 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Aug 2 21:52:06 scorpio kernel: pid 2374 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Aug 2 21:52:25 scorpio kernel: pid 2375 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Aug 2 21:53:10 scorpio kernel: pid 2376 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Aug 2 22:50:30 scorpio kernel: pid 2492 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Aug 2 22:50:54 scorpio kernel: pid 2493 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Aug 2 22:51:12 scorpio kernel: pid 2494 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Aug 2 22:51:59 scorpio kernel: pid 2495 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal 11 --=20 Jerry --Sig_/x/zNEcP827_017yDQhT=eGT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT3lGfAAoJEElTsHIJnX8epF8H/07GIcozPOdLgbYu61DGQnD2 NOT3XfEQ58jRnC/HmslWx+w/MhaJRS+epRwR4DtOeOuoWpBh+3VKCfPEuPyRJ6Wu HAOAzWlGcxLFTel5K5jkL/p10MFQRDnOD0QLoTsUHiKlFNGsoGVmpMcbq+Hggxw4 p2L5ffy56SW83HUzcu/FnZUZuD3IAt7lU/JELlrlJ8nFZKssU/1TQ264uJxe1dsY 2OA4PeY1lNzqcpy5hpMIda89Ej5pTxvvgUp6736i48xN3ImexD+1yJSvCOsTze01 4f6EmftrPxzEYE02rWGkm+nRdJfSRnN/OVPsclf2/R6g9DtlCEZqP4A8oXMeGQQ= =8WJ2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/x/zNEcP827_017yDQhT=eGT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 15:24:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AA6185A for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 15:24:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E13B92A49 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 15:24:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s73FO7kn007514; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 17:24:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F365F123C9; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 17:24:06 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 17:24:06 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: automount .... Message-ID: <20140803152406.GA67677@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <53DD79D3.9000900@hiwaay.net> <53DE422C.9030406@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53DE422C.9030406@hiwaay.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 15:24:17 -0000 --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 09:07:40AM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 08/03/14 06:20, Daniel Feenberg wrote: >=20 >=20 > > > > > > On Sat, 2 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> .... I am interested in using automount (amd) as both client & server= =20 > >> on my newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 box. Actually, the server part already= =20 > >> .... just works, automagically, however I can't figure out anything=20 > >> about client operations. The man page is dense & a quart low on=20 > >> examples .... Anyone have any clues, maybe some simple config files ?= =20 > >> TIA .... > > > > I am not sure what you mean by client and server in the context of=20 > > amd, but I did write an amd on FreeBSD tutorial years ago, which still= =20 > > reads well: > > > > http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/amd.html > > > > Daniel Feenberg >=20 >=20 > Nice read, I notice that some of your info seems to be in the default=20 > amd setup now. I also notice that the man pages are a bit dated (Apr 21,= =20 > 2006), Are there any plans to update that :-) If the software is mature, there usually aren't that many changes to the manual page. And I wonder how many people are actually using NFS these days. In offices, SMB/CIFS seems paramount these days. > ? I got amd running, it seems to work OK, except that it drops a mount af= ter > 5 min. active or not. =46rom the amd(8) manual: File systems are automatically unmounted when they appear to be quiesce= nt. It seems you and amd have a difference of opinion about what active/quiesce= nt means... > I can't see anything to twiddle in the amd.conf file, any clues ?=20 > TIA .... The `cache_duration` parameter is the one you're looking for, I think. After entries are dropped from the cache due to inactivity, amd tries to unmount them. See also `dismount_interval`. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT3lQWAAoJEED21dyjijPgns0P/0cZhrKE6lwwTJ/UEbC0jYCn cIMDkSpouyp7myV+2Ze4GfmTfABK9dsNPvz1cDG6K01lP8gSNogrXZusn4thDZlq u6kFGpp0Tow9MxBXt+est5xzQIJkrTRbXuBKLBztD5RxDuCYQM1sMRdxH5FPpNRj wQ8AJYehFvt0oWb7OFxDRoovQjc0RRgn3rO7VVEcdI4HW/wQ3ILVkYmhv6621htd xj54hFkulichO4yPth9aIhCHtLL8QvXWAcADQQBDv6BhXI8Nd6wAtUdbRPBDWm24 i+eEWxv5rMiy17ERlL65g5CznO3yvWxYg+rXKPQIrXvjKCd6OF7s+7gj2xVRiUiC 1Y0AZ3DASSZ3VUMDIHlCQ4eZLJXaEkcn5kOJSAjH8nu+OzaUiQ0/UWP6GTEb0uBp kj9yMholVU9+pKL6FVhsHh2iC/Png2Im4eyYNTwVjJ/BdghH1Qm7NEDOc1mvSWF4 b1tk1skF37dqBLG2XmFuXo7up86QcuPy5zhvF5CSEGNCyPYQsziN7ZjEFTz27YhK HQ8s1d01n26VdZxNRy454xlVHkS6M5azfAPBUMrQcuRw9++a3XsqTdArUF3AaMQ1 qfONQVrXeAOPw0UGmZF9y9wxwO8wEfMVRll7XhKpFNUDNoyhyzAGtwnd8N9SYBQ3 VlBS5JTTUKh8qipTOrbz =pbQK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 15:30:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A07CCD6B for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 15:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38AA62AA5 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 15:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s73FUEFq084831 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 17:30:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CBD76123C9; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 17:30:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 17:30:14 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: User questions Subject: Re: sshd exited on signal 11 Message-ID: <20140803153014.GB67677@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: User questions References: <20140803111317.3b763340@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MW5yreqqjyrRcusr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140803111317.3b763340@scorpio> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 15:30:17 -0000 --MW5yreqqjyrRcusr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 11:13:17AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > Sun, 3 Aug 2014 11:09:51 -0400 >=20 > My "/var/log/messages" log file has been filling up with these messages f= or > days now. What could be causing it? This is just a few of the hundreds th= at > are in the file. >=20 > Aug 2 21:12:28 scorpio kernel: pid 2306 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal = 11 > Aug 2 21:51:40 scorpio kernel: pid 2373 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal = 11 > Aug 2 21:52:06 scorpio kernel: pid 2374 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal = 11 > Aug 2 21:52:25 scorpio kernel: pid 2375 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal = 11 > Aug 2 21:53:10 scorpio kernel: pid 2376 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal = 11 > Aug 2 22:50:30 scorpio kernel: pid 2492 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal = 11 > Aug 2 22:50:54 scorpio kernel: pid 2493 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal = 11 > Aug 2 22:51:12 scorpio kernel: pid 2494 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal = 11 > Aug 2 22:51:59 scorpio kernel: pid 2495 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal = 11 Something is causing sshd to crash with a segmentation violation. And after that it is probably restarted by inetd. Maybe an attacker is forcing sshd to crash to gain access? Are there any connection attempts logged? What happens if you start sshd from the command line? Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --MW5yreqqjyrRcusr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT3lWGAAoJEED21dyjijPgjXoP+wRIjxBrd/KkUbk0BToa1uif 7urxOqcFsOk4Yi94PjfWTShKKrHWDJ1KiUdBGaGEfUyswQdJGW+1Unmf66Y9eSO7 hpjefWdSBd6QGAfGbRltu7jPirmRGycy59u2l9qaYaYWQdPe+v5NOUGeroRJFhD7 AoUO52aa0td7vGrjmOmXYyB5GAOg8b+svIWt2W9rDBry9mtd1LwV87k3FJznvNBo /izKtoFQBB1I7jGWz0n8tMwd2rNlX983c0/nJWD5yVeWlvEWoHCMAie1wDeSOWog iMRCsXxm4m7EEqdS/ztgHHseKx8vabz3bu14jG/h4WLFLwNciXNHxjQqcYDeW72J bZrnr5YjYAoUz4HL84aomMXX5W+pqXWRDODms+9BEjYTzCR5az/ekHyIkf64lvYU q+t3eWD+vvC1MR7fRoVqMe4pVM3vCKGo/KlorzK486/4EFtmvHVGGlgwXWD1cYrA j5JPGPb7qp0GH2R7wZXYFZOUbD5pzttM32OpWDZEpoeOnntO0p956AuakkExltUJ htTUWxGCIZ9Jw5ay8gfhA7UfPgyiZlgZkE9T6LVJNDGFcVQHokxFY2v7tGt5jKlj IuoXlZ2wxIdmaHEKbvo1S9GjExdhEMWOdXBHYCiKVeQEObjs6wOB9oia4HAPIJ7o NSrk/chVV7nz6T6ylpUE =JQLS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MW5yreqqjyrRcusr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 15:33:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE375F36 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 15:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BCC92B95 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 15:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s73FWxNG002120 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 17:32:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7872C123C9; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 17:32:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 17:32:59 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: User questions Subject: Re: sshd exited on signal 11 Message-ID: <20140803153259.GC67677@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: User questions References: <20140803111317.3b763340@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="E13BgyNx05feLLmH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140803111317.3b763340@scorpio> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 15:33:07 -0000 --E13BgyNx05feLLmH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 11:13:17AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > Sun, 3 Aug 2014 11:09:51 -0400 >=20 > My "/var/log/messages" log file has been filling up with these messages f= or > days now. What could be causing it? This is just a few of the hundreds th= at > are in the file. >=20 > Aug 2 21:12:28 scorpio kernel: pid 2306 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal = 11 > Aug 2 21:51:40 scorpio kernel: pid 2373 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal = 11 > Aug 2 21:52:06 scorpio kernel: pid 2374 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal = 11 > Aug 2 21:52:25 scorpio kernel: pid 2375 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal = 11 > Aug 2 21:53:10 scorpio kernel: pid 2376 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal = 11 > Aug 2 22:50:30 scorpio kernel: pid 2492 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal = 11 > Aug 2 22:50:54 scorpio kernel: pid 2493 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal = 11 > Aug 2 22:51:12 scorpio kernel: pid 2494 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal = 11 > Aug 2 22:51:59 scorpio kernel: pid 2495 (sshd), uid 0: exited on signal = 11 Forgot to mention; The crash can also happen in the sshd that is forked to handle each new connection. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --E13BgyNx05feLLmH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT3lYrAAoJEED21dyjijPgJT0QAIcdWatZOPG3t8b2VpqGUXKP nCGyXd6QXnfWQz6y2Fu80zaBzA00uQhsC0v6KEtdTAhXqh+xFWDv+JDr/RyjFDuA fzooMlFguqcDcm/JIHdysdr6OjcLLGR409WL3JVMV5Lu2Mr5Lw0yS9K4GRVyw3KK RkimpC7p21zV2mPWPWKfSCw+IfeqC8ym9mSsExDWhS2T7G4TCP4aTkvXa1FmoqTm IAWa53S5kNNw/7sMJcONCAQg69Mq+KeBJ2+rS1xRQjigwKCdtNezunJL4enYIGDs NSPNO1TXsJUjTogwn6/6sVjnqUPwx4XaDqtsp+sTUKxgy1U9xHfWx4NzEXgC09Gw Zlk/tFADXhtp6yL1C90zwCZVDkNkKdBF/ixptvIfdcDOuEoi1lQ42rLDZ0kCAHw1 GbpMsFLRvn6RpdxZ2JAl+skC/0U+/ruhcrzgOO//5gCu519KVhiiX5oQRNQbn1ak RFj7U7xHowv/HexkizUgKXeCLh65fpu9S5+91TzmB6P3zcr8o9Qn1bM0+Qi53pPT Smy8SUDDxTSWeFq1Fc1avKdlv3TScmFFsZQjk+FGZxAA1IP6aPDV74Ge1oXVR2CI M2pjKRNOeAFlQYzIKv6qcaJwSAGIGY/4Qq0yLGYydkrvCh/f8TIHP8ppGbY8qf5Q Cevpp/7HfkP1FrlLkKbh =bFZP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --E13BgyNx05feLLmH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 16:09:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 221DFFC0 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 16:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x233.google.com (mail-wi0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2DF02031 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 16:09:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id f8so3731228wiw.12 for ; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:09:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=pLVawBY8FiVodj6t67BdjMsYBL8O7mUbAbB3NSuvNvo=; b=pqNkWZztZw9GwBogTcJvSzlNFa+G3nCzN4y9XyWH+kEGsI83NL7YILsN59FZhkPaY2 SjaObMqbn8jA+R6c9jMTWj4Vb7unZelCnTYKeaYJYvTxfGWOYL1jFmRIpYxFk2lo0GNZ fASUZlRsbfoer0Utwl/N8Y2CklkKVBMW4PE3LUyWXR1Mv6uOsQ2hm4dsIyYH1HnsYm43 FfnobmcaSZyIZvNhqgzBO7h9usNI6pJCuOCl5hLwbmr6wmvKm69ch5oUpmzLBiLeTH1M ao1wZzL1SZKRJcXF+5V/LMe5HVKGje8IpBRpzs1pkNNF5U6Lc3uB+02YLmUf12BIs59n JBSQ== X-Received: by 10.180.94.5 with SMTP id cy5mr22214347wib.11.1407082174054; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 09:09:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.219.42 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 09:09:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Goran Tepshic Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 18:09:03 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Best VPS setup To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 16:09:36 -0000 I'd like to know what would be the most reasonable setup for VPS hosting 20 domains. Separate jail for each domain with Apache/PHP/MariaDB instance in each of them (*sounds somewhat overkill*) or just Apache with virtual hosts or maybe a jail with apache and multiple vhosts? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 18:06:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF43ED86 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 18:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 899DD2B91 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 18:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-216.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.216]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s73I6S3k010525 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 13:06:28 -0500 Message-ID: <53DE7B9B.5010308@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:12:43 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: automount .... References: <53DD79D3.9000900@hiwaay.net> <53DE422C.9030406@hiwaay.net> <20140803152406.GA67677@slackbox.erewhon.home> In-Reply-To: <20140803152406.GA67677@slackbox.erewhon.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 18:06:35 -0000 On 08/03/14 10:24, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 09:07:40AM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 08/03/14 06:20, Daniel Feenberg wrote: >> >> >>> >>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> .... I am interested in using automount (amd) as both client & server >>>> on my newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 box. Actually, the server part already >>>> .... just works, automagically, however I can't figure out anything >>>> about client operations. The man page is dense & a quart low on >>>> examples .... Anyone have any clues, maybe some simple config files ? >>>> TIA .... >>> I am not sure what you mean by client and server in the context of >>> amd, but I did write an amd on FreeBSD tutorial years ago, which still >>> reads well: >>> >>> http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/amd.html >>> >>> Daniel Feenberg >> >> Nice read, I notice that some of your info seems to be in the default >> amd setup now. I also notice that the man pages are a bit dated (Apr 21, >> 2006), Are there any plans to update that :-) > If the software is mature, there usually aren't that many changes to the > manual page. > > And I wonder how many people are actually using NFS these days. In offices, > SMB/CIFS seems paramount these days. Yeah, if you are cursed w/ a plethora of M$FT boxen on your network .... none on mine, only VM's .... > >> ? I got amd running, it seems to work OK, except that it drops a mount after >> 5 min. active or not. > From the amd(8) manual: > > File systems are automatically unmounted when they appear to be quiescent. > > It seems you and amd have a difference of opinion about what active/quiescent > means... Indeed, except that I was midstroke on a large cp of files onto the FreeBSD box from its soon-to-be predescessor, I thought that would qualify as activity .... > >> I can't see anything to twiddle in the amd.conf file, any clues ? >> TIA .... > The `cache_duration` parameter is the one you're looking for, I think. > After entries are dropped from the cache due to inactivity, amd tries to > unmount them. See also `dismount_interval`. > > Roland -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 18:27:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 102BB470 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 18:27:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8BC42F15 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 18:27:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s73IQtwn010649; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 11:26:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dg@pki2.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=pki2.com; s=pki2; t=1407090416; bh=d1GMNgI2mTKFtMvIzZFn0RwPpkE41qWNAcckEB6w9as=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=eWeKHmMWwIeYV2RYvRr+6+68ZDunXrIfFgZmXhTU2klE3HcKEn2rT/ClXamltKAZd IxAycBosWjp6lqp9XZQYhdkrNC6gzPsRTb47Obr+slALfRkaK9qSNpqXIJ1E8e2d2q j8HCfLzbOW8JPCpRAvvyG7Yo6Uh1bVb995vx9JQkPlS1x8igqpr2DTWgINY5dvIWg9 nv0sZ97oxtOuFADZMIjwucbJvxBojazRtn7DjIi4f/4odWLzhWxD+IilmUGG8nzqAV rv7OSsnZYx8/OGp1WTOYK3Qodo8y+RkVDI4azctQXU0hhQv08ORJ3YfviDmujkwK1h lrMu0sO1EV3PQ== Subject: Re: FreeBSD lists and DKIM From: Dennis Glatting To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <53DDEEA3.4060702@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <1407011530.3895.84.camel@btw.pki2.com> <53DDEEA3.4060702@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 11:26:55 -0700 Message-ID: <1407090415.3895.113.camel@btw.pki2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner-ID: s73IQtwn010649 X-SoftwareMunitions-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: dg@pki2.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 18:27:09 -0000 On Sun, 2014-08-03 at 09:11 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 02/08/2014 21:32, Dennis Glatting wrote: > > Mail coming through the FreeBSD lists often breaks messages signed > > through DKIM. What is the policy to resolve this issue? > > > > Turning off DKIM isn't an option. If there is a signature, such as > > someone in the chain coming through gmail, it must validate or the > > message is rejected. I understand this is a common problem for email > > lists and there are patches available to reformat messages. > > > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6377 > > > > The best general recommendation for dealing with MLMs is that the MLM > > or an MTA in the MLM's domain apply its own DKIM signature to each > > message it forwards and that assessors on the receiving end consider > > the MLM's domain signature in making their assessments. (See > > Section 5, especially Section 5.2.) > > If you're in charge of the systems *sending* the DKIM signed messages, > then choose the set of mail headers the signature is based on carefully: > avoid any headers that would tend to be re-written during processing by > the mailing list software. > > On the receiving side: allow for mailing lists to add trailers to > messages that pass. Don't base your acept/reject decisions entirely on > whether the message passes or fails DKIM or other tests. The way > Spamassassin handles such things is the way to go: DKIM, SPF, automatic > white-listing all make a weighted contribution to calculating the score. > > The advice for the MLM to apply it's own signature to a message is > problematic in that it magnifies the cpu load required to process > messages quite a lot. At least with DKIM it is possible to do that: > compare to what would be needed with SPF, where the MLM would be forced > to resend the message as *originating* from the mailing list itself. > That's not my experience. I operate five email servers: two in, two out, and one in/out; servicing about 1,000 users. Although relatively small, we're using 2048 bit keys on the outbound side and see negligible load increase on these 8-16 core servers. These servers are also doing AV, DNS, custom MILTER daemons, IPS daemons, and other services. On the incoming side, the verification load is next to nothing compared to MailScanner/SpamAssasin/AV/DKIM/DMARC/RBL, and other loads. I also see a lot of broken stuff including bad keys (e.g., CostCo), small keys (typically 512 bits), and forgeries/spam but signed with invalid keys/signatures. What I am finding useful is DMARC reports. They are interesting although I can't do anything about forgeries (typically from China). However, these go into the quarterly roll-up justifying my existence, meager as it is. There are two fundamental problems with ignoring broken signatures. The first is obvious -- you might as well not have them. The second is large email providers are imposing DMARC (p=reject) and other providers are honoring it. Consequently, I argue, NOT fixing signatures in an email list increasingly limits it breadth. https://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaster/yahoo-dmarc-policy-sln24050.html Regardless, I'd like to know the FreeBSD lists policies. I don't see them posted anywhere but that could just be me. I can insert exceptions but @freebsd.org isn't enough. -- Dennis Glatting From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 19:01:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B62D9C57 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 19:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C1D12260 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 19:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s73J1fOJ095093; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 21:01:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A8E7712359; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 21:01:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 21:01:41 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: automount .... Message-ID: <20140803190141.GA68431@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <53DD79D3.9000900@hiwaay.net> <53DE422C.9030406@hiwaay.net> <20140803152406.GA67677@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53DE7B9B.5010308@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53DE7B9B.5010308@hiwaay.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 19:01:44 -0000 --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 01:12:43PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > And I wonder how many people are actually using NFS these days. In offi= ces, > > SMB/CIFS seems paramount these days. >=20 > Yeah, if you are cursed w/ a plethora of M$FT boxen on your network ....= =20 > none on mine, only VM's .... Fortunate soul. I'm mostly stuck with 'doze at work. :-( > >> ? I got amd running, it seems to work OK, except that it drops a mount= after > >> 5 min. active or not. > > From the amd(8) manual: > > > > File systems are automatically unmounted when they appear to be qu= iescent. > > > > It seems you and amd have a difference of opinion about what active/qui= escent > > means... >=20 > Indeed, except that I was midstroke on a large cp of files onto the=20 > FreeBSD box from its soon-to-be predescessor, I thought that would=20 > qualify as activity .... You would think that, yes. But maybe there was an underlying NFS error? For a one-time copy I tend to use tar with its output piped into netcat, and the reverse on the receiving side. No complicated setup and it's pretty fas= t; I've seen it saturate a 100 Mbit link. For distributing regular updates, you cannot beat rsync, IMO. And it still requires less setup effort than nfs and amd. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT3ocVAAoJEED21dyjijPgJ6AP/RJHCYRArfBpQMtyh8iYoqvw qeyrvlx8zeB4FXDZT5PM4K5j9Ti5FnVysNkNr+eLVDEGnHlhGlLKWMAsF36naklD lbhs3xsvLW1hSHwsmzEo30e1zy273TnMqdh1tSR9XfNpxPb+fZ/ygKX4j5YGoaVU D/biZ+JwwDDDUKPzN3tV+Ru4nHF3e4ybVscM6yFu7L501phfoHtKXfwnVFkepgWm 6LHp9tAeekc2K0HwCh58UcgLZlChbiH8FUUUcD8P2AAn/K16O9uKIbFDEyMYy78M kj+v9zatjdTbsUN53BC5Zk8iLtpQCpQYy1hLSaIuXw4jrGWaIkPIkbiJE1/O9QCs Zlgu3IVNL7KYECcpfcgliVCAWok6JmUyuT1VBWmqQx5qUS6KmBhW2zFiAIBIxuv/ ZPuq0nZewILuMa3GCal7Dz69f0GuDe1vdBp8Lyi7nMyuCuAvcl/yAGyOZXQ6lOLn LS2RmQoh0zQG2GNWrgcADTUxkyFFx055P/wYSpvgxvkASloICIwICoja4ojlZykH AUAT//fH3lIs7dH+/aLaEuviV6jzrrn/su56kg1jw6L8nZN9dbgkQQq+dL6uvINj bX8fGLt6T6LlIs3Rn8vu+wAzXufLKoFO4xZj+1rQRtYtwigsqZktxrMTZFwY0Vq4 jOOjYK99ei9872QuY+9U =qvzz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 19:19:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26350EF6 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 19:19:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0DA0246F for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 19:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) by bucksport.safeport.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s73JJNi8000511 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 15:19:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 15:19:23 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pkg repository question Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]); Sun, 03 Aug 2014 15:19:24 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 19:19:33 -0000 I was building an old 9.1 system to check something out. It was convenience to use a 9.1-rc3 a DVD. I got an error saying there were no repositories for non releases. Perfectly understandable, so I updated to 9.1-rel and all is well. That prompted two questions: first, is there a way to have forced the use of a 9.1 repository; and secondly how long will old repositories be available? _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 19:26:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5533BAE for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 19:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2032B2527 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 19:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id wm4so4003764obc.27 for ; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:26:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KCRsPYRD8d7XPkaNeEZCjStjDKYYCkMmnXPZIwSp1ks=; b=SZvwS8+0usqChqIHNJ1sGZrPzJ5/jmr4qgS+HrohuFyirUB7oXTYxnhmM1Tae/b9Jh TXdEdDdSrSHcI8Hf0oY9emaXKAoQ++XcrqzIcHbVwXuM/7zOR95+EBwtqyRD34h+dSqO 08YKHTggowY5y2KmuCjS+iJ4Hlvq/lDlWVwKEL/H6WwEjuVaZUcawq5Wh5PS/M7ecBEG b6qTBL0fSHkenBytjMMxBnFQo1rZFgm3VH9VhK86UcCGtxp07QYPVL7RXvIEGb6Vol2g EcE97QCR/d7BZNaik8iELC1x61zciqNahiPugFutuFhxFA/7PCqsgzaWykVFvTo0oQ3p 2G6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlgDuDMtRLeXiUOg/uQDZw5bsoh0pVgSd1ep5WMYofOhrQ5u+r/4eP+MJglsMJi0m1ifp45 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.133.233 with SMTP id pf9mr26560098oeb.30.1407093978831; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 12:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.120.37 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 12:26:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 12:26:18 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkg repository question From: Michael Sierchio To: doug@safeport.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 19:26:26 -0000 On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 12:19 PM, wrote: > ... how long will old repositories be available? Who knows? Need packages for 4.11-RELEASE (for example)? http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/4.11-RELEASE/packages/All/ You get the idea. - M From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 19:40:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 096E878A for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 19:40:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C1EA26CD for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 19:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s73JeU2X004038 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 3 Aug 2014 13:40:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s73JeUxw004035; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 13:40:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 13:40:30 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Beeblebrox Subject: Re: printcap configuration problem In-Reply-To: <20140803083513.47e21f3b@rsbsd.rsb> Message-ID: References: <1405676044178-5929730.post@n5.nabble.com> <53C919E0.6070008@bananmonarki.se> <20140718183958.1864052a@rsbsd.rsb> <20140727221419.35efb9b0@morena.maps.net> <1406966714419-5934110.post@n5.nabble.com> <1406986762673-5934162.post@n5.nabble.com> <20140803083513.47e21f3b@rsbsd.rsb> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:40:30 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 19:40:35 -0000 On Sun, 3 Aug 2014, Beeblebrox wrote: >> Both cases are for use with a printer that understands PostScript >> natively. A plain LaserJet 2100 does not, > Mine does, it's the 2100tn model, has native ps level-II > http://people.virginia.edu/~cavcomp2/printers/hp/2100/2100.htm > >> Sorry, I don't understand the question. > > Well, my first question was: Why under the current filter setting does > lpd scrape or cut 4 lines from the top? I'm able to get the hard copy > the way I want it to look by increasing the top margin by 4 lines, > save it as a ps file, then lpr the file from command line. lpd does not mess with the input file, although the filter might. I suspect that this just means you need to supply some margin settings for enscript in the psif filter. See enscript(1). > The ghostscript comment was referring to previous discussion - sorry > for the confusion: If I want to print in r: 300 x 300, the only way > that's going to happen is by sending it through ghostscript, if I > understand correctly? No, that's not necessary. PostScript can be told what resolution to use. A filter would have to append that to the start of the PS program, similar to the way duplex can be set. See this thread for an example: https://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?&t=40651 I have some additional filters on my list of things to add to the Handbook, but no idea when I can work on them. > How could I modify psif so that "lpr -Php2100 -r300 somefile.ps" would > result in 1. check if ps 2. adjust for one of available resolution > options (300 OR 600). -r is already used by lpr. Actually, I have not experimented with passing through options that way, and don't know if it can be done. I'd just define two printers, one for 300DPI and one for 600DPI. The header code is probably going to be <> setpagedevice or <> setpagedevice That might be different on a printer as old as the LJ2100. It can be tested in plain PS files sent directly to the printer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 19:49:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E73996B for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 19:49:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC67D272F for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 19:49:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s73JnfKh041290 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 20:49:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s73JnfKh041290 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s73JnfKh041290; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral Message-ID: <53DE924C.7080402@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 20:49:32 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg repository question References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7SKKfgRp2Wktg8fuWwRwhLRvV9JI3WXae" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 19:49:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --7SKKfgRp2Wktg8fuWwRwhLRvV9JI3WXae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/08/2014 20:19, doug@safeport.com wrote: > I was building an old 9.1 system to check something out. It was > convenience to use a 9.1-rc3 a DVD. I got an error saying there were no= > repositories for non releases. Perfectly understandable, so I updated t= o > 9.1-rel and all is well. This sounds suspiciously like the behaviour of the old pkg_tools stuff. I can't remember for sure if 9.1 came with pkg(8) as standard or not -- I don't believe it did. Are you sure you weren't inadvertently trying to install some old-style packages? > That prompted two questions: first, is there a way to have forced the > use of a 9.1 repository; and secondly how long will old repositories be= > available? With pkg(8), there is no such thing as a '9.1' repository -- at least, not anything officially supplied by the FreeBSD project. There are repositories for eg, freebsd:9:x86:64 which are suitable for any version of FreeBSD with a major version of '9'. Although for best results, you should be running a version (9.x-STABLE, 9,x-RELEASE) at least as new as the oldest supported release with a 9.x version number. Currently that's 9.1-RELEASE. Updated packages for 9.x release will be provided for as long as there are still supported versions of 9.x available. The packages will be built on the earliest still-supported 9.x-RELEASE, which will be 9.3-RELEASE towards the end of 9.x lifetime in December 2016[*]. These should probably still work on earlier releases, but no guarantees. Cheers, Matthew [*] http://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html#sup --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --7SKKfgRp2Wktg8fuWwRwhLRvV9JI3WXae Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJT3pJUXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkAT4gIQAIg2odJqTu1Jgb3N1/9s6zx0 MfXf2rnPDzRa731cCh6wEP9rtCU4k/D6RmddpsbP6JjiVwy4cRzUEgNrsUbkQlpE qlZ84gEOyJ8OKCCMmj6afOsu8qb+moFX+9kWEo8TjimqgcEOmbZOC5bjyPBOLTWv oBWrmTRCcgo66cEcSCqKw65IRXB0jKj6UXPGOKGJXms8KYBkeaIRDrVfWPnlrJws 6lFBWL7lyvsZrvbQzH5m5GTtFxYMnJCc5JoXzMmEllt9XKanWidHCO/CjuPJMut9 ozo6tVKea0CdBZChcwQB0ZwST/QEiO7WlzkcLNPsZfvF0RiHfN1leFeKRx0ExHJ4 kSIfM6a029kwjZ5jfrSfGjiaQ9TkwyvYZwvCOecmy5BVFAQySaRfWZI4Ur9DNcWJ kJIO2iwXq6Z7QVrhncdte5vM/scVH+hIulBxiOnGgD5D/2G9MUAjZeDSaSK5frpl +w4ZEjOzvJbmE/11Q0B81uPzIIsKugGrk/VqXMXIRgk/jCQX4COFousW2AugrQcG 5AFb4tlDpaHigxowTcrg6hg13SzWeTm1m0Np7uYYZcrZ6ixQr9bRVUt0hF7uQxRO HTt5UPcyAigVihQHt7/MQ0YxZbxpRSPmendBRjgIhUfTWMzYXLc3x2a9zH/WhrFZ MelEIa780AcBAWZharLA =aIKG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7SKKfgRp2Wktg8fuWwRwhLRvV9JI3WXae-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 20:13:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1931F3E for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 20:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7068529E2 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 20:13:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) by bucksport.safeport.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s73KDiHo001742; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 16:13:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 16:13:44 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: Michael Sierchio Subject: Re: pkg repository question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]); Sun, 03 Aug 2014 16:13:45 -0400 (EDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 20:13:46 -0000 On Sun, 3 Aug 2014, Michael Sierchio wrote: > On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 12:19 PM, wrote: >> ... how long will old repositories be available? > > Who knows? Need packages for 4.11-RELEASE (for example)? > > http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/4.11-RELEASE/packages/All/ Yea and I used that to go back to 7.0. I just wanted to know if there was an 'offical' policy. _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 20:17:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1E6078 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 20:17:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from miucha.iecc.com (abusenet-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:1126::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "miucha.iecc.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 618672A18 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 20:17:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 92965 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2014 20:17:44 -0000 Received: from miucha.iecc.com (64.57.183.18) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 3 Aug 2014 20:17:44 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=14bb1.53de98e7.k1408; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=dusoE5ChrHqfci+w+IWDQkbc9UK47xM53njipYnH7cM=; b=MLPY8rwCMZE4Sip7jcK7UyN1fZOh44Yj7iayScRNdWbEnYt7cwLw3f0MiyAf6u9p2Sjol1Z1bMEx6YYHIkKh5lhQs/R+/Hip2jVSK5WSHBo8qjpcsRPuLdoPRCuGJq9t+FXKbWizuhKAanYj4N8ZJ8Q9Zyri9pT9319IjRKxZ30OA8yURGHAc3Sz0m8GgZ/9QCV5P1MiHKNN9J/RfAiLkLKs7+/UG1I1iKI+4GwCameRuKPMEiIEC03/5ofHgn/l Date: 3 Aug 2014 20:17:21 -0000 Message-ID: <20140803201721.84912.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD lists and DKIM In-Reply-To: <53DDEEA3.4060702@infracaninophile.co.uk> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 20:17:45 -0000 >On 02/08/2014 21:32, Dennis Glatting wrote: >> Mail coming through the FreeBSD lists often breaks messages signed >> through DKIM. What is the policy to resolve this issue? That is not a bug, as has been established in endless discussions at the IETF and elsewhere. Many people who do not understand DKIM claim otherwise, but they are wrong. (RFC 6377 is not helpful, since despite its confusing title, it's purely speculative advice that had never been implemented at the time it was published.) >The advice for the MLM to apply its own signature to a message is >problematic in that it magnifies the cpu load required to process >messages quite a lot. Speaking as someone who has run his own list servers for 20 years, I can promise you that the incremental load to add DKIM signatures when you're already running a list manager like Mailman or Majordomo or Sympa is down in the noise. There is a different problem with a new system called DMARC. Due to a series of unfortunate actions at AOL and Yahoo, mail from aol.com and yahoo.com senders sent through lists tends to vanish when received at large ISPs including Hotmail and Comcast. More info here: http://jl.ly/Email/aoldmarc.html Options for working around DMARC damage: http://wiki.asrg.sp.am/wiki/Mitigating_DMARC_damage_to_third_party_mail R's, John PS: It sure would be nice if the FreeBSD lists did what every other list in the world does, and limit postings to subscribers, rather than allowing random spam through. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 20:18:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E028912C; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 20:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27EE2A29; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 20:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B8E046B1A; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 16:18:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s73KIb56072320; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 16:18:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s73KIbxY072317; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 16:18:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 16:18:37 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: pkg repository question In-Reply-To: <53DE924C.7080402@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <53DE924C.7080402@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 03 Aug 2014 16:18:38 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 20:18:39 -0000 On Sun, 3 Aug 2014, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 03/08/2014 20:19, doug@safeport.com wrote: >> I was building an old 9.1 system to check something out. It was >> convenience to use a 9.1-rc3 a DVD. I got an error saying there were no >> repositories for non releases. Perfectly understandable, so I updated to >> 9.1-rel and all is well. > > This sounds suspiciously like the behaviour of the old pkg_tools stuff. > I can't remember for sure if 9.1 came with pkg(8) as standard or not -- > I don't believe it did. Are you sure you weren't inadvertently trying > to install some old-style packages? I do not think so. What I meant to do (and think I did) was to portsnap, build pkg, run pkg2ng (even though is/should not be required) and then do a pkg to install a package. This is a VM system so its easy to shake things out. I just want to learn how it all fits together before September >> That prompted two questions: first, is there a way to have forced the >> use of a 9.1 repository; and secondly how long will old repositories be >> available? > > With pkg(8), there is no such thing as a '9.1' repository -- at least, > not anything officially supplied by the FreeBSD project. > > There are repositories for eg, freebsd:9:x86:64 which are suitable for > any version of FreeBSD with a major version of '9'. Although for best > results, you should be running a version (9.x-STABLE, 9,x-RELEASE) at > least as new as the oldest supported release with a 9.x version number. > Currently that's 9.1-RELEASE. > > Updated packages for 9.x release will be provided for as long as there > are still supported versions of 9.x available. The packages will be > built on the earliest still-supported 9.x-RELEASE, which will be > 9.3-RELEASE towards the end of 9.x lifetime in December 2016[*]. These > should probably still work on earlier releases, but no guarantees. With the old package system the package directory systems seem to hang around for much longer periods. Will the initial release of the pkg packages be on the release dvd set? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 21:00:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50E81850 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 21:00:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE0812F2A for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 21:00:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s73L0ExZ042997 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 3 Aug 2014 22:00:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s73L0ExZ042997 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s73L0ExZ042997; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral Message-ID: <53DEA2D5.7080701@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 22:00:05 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doug@safeport.com Subject: Re: pkg repository question References: <53DE924C.7080402@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="iRNTUkGob5rraO4AlbROLULk1oW2oaWWa" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 21:00:22 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --iRNTUkGob5rraO4AlbROLULk1oW2oaWWa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/08/2014 21:18, doug wrote: > With the old package system the package directory systems seem to hang > around for much longer periods. Will the initial release of the pkg > packages be on the release dvd set? I'm not sure what the intentions are towards archiving old sets of packages / repository images once the OS versions concerned have gone out of support. Try asking on freebsd-ports@..., or if that fails to elicit a satisfactory response try asking portmgr@... I do know that the last sets of old-style packages are being preserved on the FTP servers for longer than they otherwise might be in order to smooth over the transition to pkg(8) for later adopters. pkg_tools are not officially dead and buried until September. DVD sets will contain a limited selection of some of the more popular packages -- basically the same sort of provision as was made with the old-style packages. There's simply not enough room on any feasible installation media to provide a complete set of packages though. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd"...(no debugging symbols found)... (gdb) run -dddd upgrade Starting program: /noback/ports64/ports-mgmt/pkg/work/pkg-1.3.4/src/pkg-static -dddd upgrade Updating repository catalogue pkg-static: http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/freebsd:10:x86:64/latest/meta.txz: Not Found pkg-static: repository FreeBSD has no meta file, using default settings FreeBSD repository is up-to-date All repositories are up-to-date Checking for upgrades: 39% llvm~devel/llvm32 has no direct installation candidates, change it to llvm32~devel/llvm32 [Y/n]: llvm~devel/llvm32 has no direct installation candidates, change it to llvm32~devel/llvm32 [Y/n]: Checking for upgrades: 100% Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x0000000000714a6b in strlen () (gdb) where #0 0x0000000000714a6b in strlen () #1 0x00000000004523ba in pkg_solve_add_universe_variable () #2 0x000000000044e9d6 in pkg_solve_add_universe_item () #3 0x000000000044c9b3 in pkg_solve_jobs_to_sat () #4 0x00000000004326e0 in pkg_jobs_solve () #5 0x0000000000410331 in exec_upgrade () #6 0x0000000000409e14 in main () Grrr.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 21:20:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30BA8BBB for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 21:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F020420BA for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 21:20:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-216.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.216]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s73LK2n4002961 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 16:20:02 -0500 Message-ID: <53DEA8F9.9050900@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 16:26:17 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: automount .... References: <53DD79D3.9000900@hiwaay.net> <53DE422C.9030406@hiwaay.net> <20140803152406.GA67677@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53DE7B9B.5010308@hiwaay.net> <20140803190141.GA68431@slackbox.erewhon.home> In-Reply-To: <20140803190141.GA68431@slackbox.erewhon.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 21:20:04 -0000 On 08/03/14 14:01, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 01:12:43PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> And I wonder how many people are actually using NFS these days. In offices, >>> SMB/CIFS seems paramount these days. >> Yeah, if you are cursed w/ a plethora of M$FT boxen on your network .... >> none on mine, only VM's .... > Fortunate soul. I'm mostly stuck with 'doze at work. :-( > >>>> ? I got amd running, it seems to work OK, except that it drops a mount after >>>> 5 min. active or not. >>> From the amd(8) manual: >>> >>> File systems are automatically unmounted when they appear to be quiescent. >>> >>> It seems you and amd have a difference of opinion about what active/quiescent >>> means... >> Indeed, except that I was midstroke on a large cp of files onto the >> FreeBSD box from its soon-to-be predescessor, I thought that would >> qualify as activity .... > You would think that, yes. But maybe there was an underlying NFS error? > > For a one-time copy I tend to use tar with its output piped into netcat, and > the reverse on the receiving side. No complicated setup and it's pretty fast; > I've seen it saturate a 100 Mbit link. > > For distributing regular updates, you cannot beat rsync, IMO. And it still > requires less setup effort than nfs and amd. > > Roland What I think may have happened is slow enough I/O off of this machine that it looked quiescent to the new box. I tried the cp again from the server that rsyncs this box nightly & the cp completed. The server is 1Gbit ethernet, & my LAN is gigabit switched, but this box is a troll, AMD Athlon64X2 3800+ based, 2 GB RAM, 20 GB root drive (91+ % full), 160 GB SATA home drive, 97+ % full, & 100 mbit ethernet. That's why it's getting replaced :-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 3 22:02:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7B67E11 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 22:02:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D70125C3 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 22:02:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s73M1rNb044738 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 23:01:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s73M1rNb044738 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s73M1rNb044738; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral Message-ID: <53DEB14F.8010408@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 23:01:51 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg segfault References: <53DEA664.4030204@hesiod.org> In-Reply-To: <53DEA664.4030204@hesiod.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bx6lf2LSTjeax0BkRjNHgUtAIMkxUTVfa" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 22:02:01 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --bx6lf2LSTjeax0BkRjNHgUtAIMkxUTVfa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/08/2014 22:15, Jeff Anton wrote: > So I just upgraded my 9.2 amd64 to 10.0 via src build... > pkg upgrade (1.3.3) then seg faulted. >=20 > updated my ports > built pkg 1.3.4 > still seg faults >=20 > under gdb > atlas.hesiod.org:root[162]: gdb pkg-static > GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] > Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and yo= u > are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain > conditions. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for deta= ils. > This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd"...(no debugging > symbols found)... > (gdb) run -dddd upgrade > Starting program: > /noback/ports64/ports-mgmt/pkg/work/pkg-1.3.4/src/pkg-static -dddd upgr= ade > Updating repository catalogue > pkg-static: http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/freebsd:10:x86:64/latest/meta.txz: > Not Found > pkg-static: repository FreeBSD has no meta file, using default settings= > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date > All repositories are up-to-date > Checking for upgrades: 39% > llvm~devel/llvm32 has no direct installation candidates, change it to > llvm32~devel/llvm32 [Y/n]: >=20 > llvm~devel/llvm32 has no direct installation candidates, change it to > llvm32~devel/llvm32 [Y/n]: > Checking for upgrades: 100% >=20 > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > 0x0000000000714a6b in strlen () > (gdb) where > #0 0x0000000000714a6b in strlen () > #1 0x00000000004523ba in pkg_solve_add_universe_variable () > #2 0x000000000044e9d6 in pkg_solve_add_universe_item () > #3 0x000000000044c9b3 in pkg_solve_jobs_to_sat () > #4 0x00000000004326e0 in pkg_jobs_solve () > #5 0x0000000000410331 in exec_upgrade () > #6 0x0000000000409e14 in main () >=20 > Grrr.... Can you raise an issue via Github https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues please? The output of 'bt full' from your gdb session would be useful. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1576894771-1407112840=:28907 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Okay, I duplicated my earlier attempt. Last time I ran freebsd-update, did a portsnap, and built pkg. This time I skipped all that and just did the bootstrap as in the handbook. built the system: uname -a FreeBSD odin.boltsys.com 9.1-RC3 FreeBSD 9.1-RC3 #0 r242324: Tue Oct 30 00:58:57 UTC 2012 root@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 My steps: boot pkg pkg2ng pkg install -x perl5 Updating repository catalogue No valid repository found. I have attached the output of the above. This was the point I decided I had to update to 9.1-release and it all worked. This time around, I can tell I do not have pkg installed properly as 'pkg help ' does not work. 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/08/2014 01:40, doug@safeport.com wrote: > Okay, I duplicated my earlier attempt. Last time I ran freebsd-update, > did a portsnap, and built pkg. This time I skipped all that and just di= d > the bootstrap as in the handbook. >=20 > built the system: uname -a > FreeBSD odin.boltsys.com 9.1-RC3 FreeBSD 9.1-RC3 #0 r242324: Tue Oct = 30 > 00:58:57 UTC 2012 > root@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >=20 > My steps: > boot pkg > pkg2ng > pkg install -x perl5 > Updating repository catalogue > No valid repository found. >=20 > I have attached the output of the above. This was the point I decided I= > had to update to 9.1-release and it all worked. This time around, I can= > tell I do not have pkg installed properly as 'pkg help ' does > not work. Any help gives 'No manual entry for pkg-' >=20 > Clearly something is wrong here, but I do not know what I did. Do you have /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf ? What do you have matching /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/*.conf ? pkg -vv should show at least one repository listed at the end of the output. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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[86.130.25.215]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ex2sm38345872wic.24.2014.08.04.01.22.28 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Aug 2014 01:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53DF42C2.1000707@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 09:22:26 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Determining Video Hardware For "WITH_NEW_XORG" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 08:22:34 -0000 Hi Having looked at dmesg output and the information provided by FreeBSD devs about supported video hardware for WITH_NEW_XORG compilation knob, I would like to ask if you can confirm what I have determined my video hardware is: from dmesg: agp0: Intel Q45 SVGA controller from pciconf: vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x304817aa chip=0x2e128086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller' class = display subclass = VGA vgapci1@pci0:0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x304817aa chip=0x2e138086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller' class = display So my graphics hardware is codename 'Eaglelake' with device id 2e12. Does this mean this hardware is too old and therefore unsupported by the new xorg software and necessary components? As I use KDE4 - version 4.10.5 currently - will I have to stick with the pkg(8) url "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/release/0" for upgrading and installing packages? Or, can I still build the software on the machine using poudriere and specify 'WITHOUT_NEW_XORG' in order to benefit from the latest releases of KDE et al? If anyone is able to clarify those few things I'd be very grateful. Thanks for your time. Jamie. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 08:29:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4319C14 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 08:29:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A381E242A for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 08:29:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-69-249.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.69.249]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F6312761A; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 10:29:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s748TfZV004183; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 10:29:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 10:29:41 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jamie Griffin Subject: Re: Determining Video Hardware For "WITH_NEW_XORG" Message-Id: <20140804102941.a9881347.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53DF42C2.1000707@gmail.com> References: <53DF42C2.1000707@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 08:29:51 -0000 On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 09:22:26 +0100, Jamie Griffin wrote: > Hi > > Having looked at dmesg output and the information provided by FreeBSD > devs about supported video hardware for WITH_NEW_XORG compilation knob, > I would like to ask if you can confirm what I have determined my video > hardware is: > > from dmesg: > agp0: Intel Q45 SVGA controller > > from pciconf: > vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x304817aa chip=0x2e128086 > rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller' > class = display > subclass = VGA > vgapci1@pci0:0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x304817aa chip=0x2e138086 > rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller' > class = display > > > So my graphics hardware is codename 'Eaglelake' with device id 2e12. > > Does this mean this hardware is too old and therefore unsupported by the > new xorg software and necessary components? Ask X what it thinks about it. Run # Xorg -configure and see /root/xorg.conf.new as well as /var/log/Xorg.0.log for what driver X has chosen and loaded. It's possible that you need to install an additional driver, e. g. xf86-video-intel for your integrated graphics). > As I use KDE4 - version 4.10.5 currently - will I have to stick with the > pkg(8) url "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/release/0" for upgrading > and installing packages? > > Or, can I still build the software on the machine using poudriere and > specify 'WITHOUT_NEW_XORG' in order to benefit from the latest releases > of KDE et al? As far as I know, the pkg packages use the "traditional" X.org, so if you require "new" X.org, you need to set WITHOUT_NEW_XORG (which is probably even the default, in opposite to WITH_NEW_XORG which explicitely enables the "new" X.org) especially in combi- nation with building KDE from source. The pacakges of KDE however might be configured differently. I'm not a KDE user anymore so I can't be more specific. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 08:35:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7FF8EF9 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 08:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AD3325DD for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 08:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-69-249.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.69.249]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6E1D27606; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 10:35:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s748ZjKY004222; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 10:35:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 10:35:45 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jamie Griffin Subject: Re: Determining Video Hardware For "WITH_NEW_XORG" Message-Id: <20140804103545.93538db5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53DF42C2.1000707@gmail.com> References: <53DF42C2.1000707@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 08:35:47 -0000 On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 09:22:26 +0100, Jamie Griffin wrote: > As I use KDE4 - version 4.10.5 currently - will I have to stick with the > pkg(8) url "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/release/0" for upgrading > and installing packages? > > Or, can I still build the software on the machine using poudriere and > specify 'WITHOUT_NEW_XORG' in order to benefit from the latest releases > of KDE et al? An addition: http://ximalas.info/2014/03/13/without_new_xorgyes-true/ https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics/WITH_NEW_XORG Check Intel GPU and driver in relation to KMS. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[193.239.202.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id q2sm39127752wia.19.2014.08.04.02.56.03 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Aug 2014 02:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53DF58B1.1020309@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 11:56:01 +0200 From: Andrei Brezan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Skype from ports error connecting to server Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 09:56:06 -0000 Hi all, Is anyone running Skype from ports having issues connecting? I get a "Sign in failed, Server connect failed" message. I am able to connect with Android, Windows clients so it's not a password, user account issue. I'm running 10.0-RELEASE-p6, and skype 2.1.0.81_1,1. Thanks, -- Andrei From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 10:01:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42A42816 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 10:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x229.google.com (mail-oa0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F2C1209B for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 10:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id j17so4874471oag.28 for ; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 03:01:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=0WbGMyHBeMrveob2Gr3BsxAIg8BJ1R7AhcVFXs2oJLo=; b=lcELgYCNg/aq9MdpGa/tLUgBUNMrYG6vWR5Pb3UzZbAeGxaewVZ7bIN7HwDvy14fUF QybLKvf/TnGkyEXrBdrarnD00ul6UQx3CC7F4BfmIiMNKSppjpV1VHPXo4HnId7l8mX0 YjTSPGP4usI7dxa2p2JjrzexOEAgEw6s9cAKSLJMV7HfAe8RL3y59ENOVoUBvaru1axX k7LKCNzMx9ePHcfPo6qgOwJFyaJfkqEN4b/5W6HHRBOBrpoWOL+l8/wbelH0NS5Xi4rb x8vz2j5uPWg/9yddoGvN5N7OCSqW91j+347+02l0Ho4m7oTUTZN0lCb0AmXFk/OVstrm BF3Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.91.4 with SMTP id ca4mr30938169obb.26.1407146465814; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 03:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.202.75.15 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 03:01:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53DF58B1.1020309@gmail.com> References: <53DF58B1.1020309@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 12:01:05 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Pal6LfPxBWO_mPLNc7EjEUYNVWE Message-ID: Subject: Re: Skype from ports error connecting to server From: CeDeROM To: Andrei Brezan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 10:01:07 -0000 Skype announced recently that some versions are outdated and needs to be upgraded. Maybe this is the issue? -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 11:47:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 700DCE10 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 11:47:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relaygateway01.edpnet.net (relaygateway01.edpnet.net [212.71.1.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADC92F13 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 11:47:41 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al0GAAjX3FNNbXB9/2dsb2JhbABZgw1SV4J4yRuIUxd3hC0zXxMOAhEFJRiIZZ93jyuREIZPjn5rgmM2gRwFnAQBlF+DTzsv X-IPAS-Result: Al0GAAjX3FNNbXB9/2dsb2JhbABZgw1SV4J4yRuIUxd3hC0zXxMOAhEFJRiIZZ93jyuREIZPjn5rgmM2gRwFnAQBlF+DTzsv X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,798,1400018400"; d="scan'208";a="267962953" Received: from 77.109.112.125.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net (HELO mordor.lan) ([77.109.112.125]) by relaygateway01.edpnet.net with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 04 Aug 2014 13:17:26 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:46:28 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: switch serial connection Message-ID: <20140804114628.GA74890@mordor.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 11:47:42 -0000 --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I have an old switch (Planet GSW-1200S) with a serial port to which I'm trying to connect, it seems to work with: $> sudo cu -l /dev/ttyU0 -s 38400 when I execute this command and power on the switch I have the following: https://dpaste.de/iEOr The problem is that when I press Enter it hangs, it seems that the key is never "sent" on the wire .. 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I am able to=20 > connect with Android, Windows clients so it's not a password, user=20 > account issue. > I'm running 10.0-RELEASE-p6, and skype 2.1.0.81_1,1. Same problem here on 10.0-STABLE r267961: #v+ tlhscd@leo:~ $ pkg info skype\* skype-devel-2.2.0.35_1 #v- --=20 regards, Maciej Suszko. --Sig_/vu2Exv+9sWTpov9EHihJ3cL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlPfhi4ACgkQCikUk0l7iGoPhQCdGsFAgvwkHxdeK9tAvfzRBco5 r0EAniS7sqzSSq5kGWKDdCguHoblFGya =TVlD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/vu2Exv+9sWTpov9EHihJ3cL-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 13:15:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F77AF0D for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:15:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.mcwinter.org (mail.mcwinter.org [176.31.181.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.mcwinter.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C87192B45 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from doppio.is.ed.ac.uk (doppio.is.ed.ac.uk [129.215.200.91]); by mail.mcwinter.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 01c99080; TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:09:00 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <53DF85EC.4090501@raveisking.de> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 14:09:00 +0100 From: Jan Winter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andrei693@gmail.com Subject: Re: Skype from ports error connecting to server References: <53DF58B1.1020309@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <53DF58B1.1020309@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 13:15:43 -0000 On 08/04/14 10:56, Andrei Brezan wrote: > Hi all, > > Is anyone running Skype from ports having issues connecting? > I get a "Sign in failed, Server connect failed" message. I am able to > connect with Android, Windows clients so it's not a password, user > account issue. > I'm running 10.0-RELEASE-p6, and skype 2.1.0.81_1,1. > > Thanks, > I have the same problem on my freebsd box. On another box with linux, I get the same error as well. Maybe a skype problem? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 13:38:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1275C80A for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x22d.google.com (mail-wi0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EE0F2F0E for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:38:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id f8so5075205wiw.0 for ; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 06:38:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=f3IYwBepzE8h16YfHSVFLL5uCXUJjESP25FKoAYwRf4=; b=0X7s6eqyMkoZtqLhGE6FOpzhdt2JL0wS7wY2J6eJYZ5T5/QbkyVMSYuF3KFb6Xy9a6 sj5wxGl6ekijEatetbuQRvGFTwU68QcjYoyoI8DtsKc9dx9HNSEnb8eM27uRspIAPF/5 1i+olWgKnCVLzPvHJogMXx7V0cPulBrwrmUonDSlPCsP7C6l/ILjq/hoaZebHZ1frxE7 tUl5kbAUXWS6EI4vXotxXIyXXotS3wDUM97VeVmxuFZbWQ2JSwEPQvT5nLu2wp5yf+L2 kNloa1W9lAGTVHijW7sX77TjyZgME4NITA0/5iKrDppYWvmotln0tALaR+/o7RwzAslH iwmg== X-Received: by 10.194.109.71 with SMTP id hq7mr4984312wjb.114.1407159529398; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 06:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from t510.bsoft-company.ro (remote.ezwim.com. [193.239.202.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h3sm43615305wjz.48.2014.08.04.06.38.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Aug 2014 06:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53DF8CE6.2050103@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 15:38:46 +0200 From: Andrei Brezan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Winter Subject: Re: Skype from ports error connecting to server References: <53DF58B1.1020309@gmail.com> <53DF85EC.4090501@raveisking.de> In-Reply-To: <53DF85EC.4090501@raveisking.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 13:38:54 -0000 On 08/04/14 15:09, Jan Winter wrote: > On 08/04/14 10:56, Andrei Brezan wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Is anyone running Skype from ports having issues connecting? >> I get a "Sign in failed, Server connect failed" message. I am able to >> connect with Android, Windows clients so it's not a password, user >> account issue. >> I'm running 10.0-RELEASE-p6, and skype 2.1.0.81_1,1. >> >> Thanks, >> > > I have the same problem on my freebsd box. On another box with linux, > I get the same error as well. > Maybe a skype problem? Most likely something to do with Microsoft not wanting older clients to connect. What version are you using on linux? -- Andrei From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 13:40:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0393B9CC for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from iprslrsmtp2msp.cpwnetworks.com (rslrsmtp2.opaltelecom.net [62.24.128.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BC62FC2 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:40:54 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtoEABGM31M+GID9/2dsb2JhbABasx0DAwUBbgGgfIMRCgGBJHeEBAEFOEARCxgJEwMPCQMCAQIBRRMIAQGIQsUcF4V8iQ5JFoQ1AQSjKY08g06BcQ X-IPAS-Result: AtoEABGM31M+GID9/2dsb2JhbABasx0DAwUBbgGgfIMRCgGBJHeEBAEFOEARCxgJEwMPCQMCAQIBRRMIAQGIQsUcF4V8iQ5JFoQ1AQSjKY08g06BcQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,798,1400022000"; d="scan'208";a="490373891" Received: from wmsmtp.opaltelecom.net (HELO rslr-smtp-2.cpwnetworks.com) ([62.24.128.253]) by iprslrsmtp2msp.cpwnetworks.com with ESMTP; 04 Aug 2014 14:39:47 +0100 Received: from [92.27.146.104] (helo=imac.local) by rslr-smtp-2.cpwnetworks.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1XEIUM-0003tt-22 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 14:39:46 +0100 Message-ID: <53DF8D1C.9090903@rakupottery.org.uk> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 14:39:40 +0100 From: Martin Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Skype from ports error connecting to server References: <53DF58B1.1020309@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 13:40:56 -0000 On 04/08/2014 11:01, CeDeROM wrote: > Skype announced recently that some versions are outdated and needs to > be upgraded. Maybe this is the issue? > Yes this is the case, all platforms are affected and only the most recent version will work, of course it is now owned by M$. -- Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 13:42:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E97D9B54 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:42:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta005.mxout.tbr.inty.net [91.221.168.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DC0F2FEE for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (unknown [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta005.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B90A64FC8 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:30:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6965384089; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 12:57:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7885D38407C; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 12:57:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.254.7] (unknown [80.177.21.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 12:57:45 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <53DF8C3B.6090207@sliderule.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 14:35:55 +0100 From: Steve Burton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julien Cigar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: switch serial connection References: <20140804114628.GA74890@mordor.lan> In-Reply-To: <20140804114628.GA74890@mordor.lan> X-MDF-HostID: 4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 13:42:15 -0000 On 04/08/2014 12:46, Julien Cigar wrote: > Hello, > > I have an old switch (Planet GSW-1200S) with a serial port to which I'm > trying to connect, it seems to work with: > > $> sudo cu -l /dev/ttyU0 -s 38400 > > when I execute this command and power on the switch I have the > following: https://dpaste.de/iEOr > > The problem is that when I press Enter it hangs, it seems that the key > is never "sent" on the wire .. Any idea what the problem could be .. ? > > Thanks, > Julien > perhaps ^J instead of enter? Steve. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 13:56:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1B24AF for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.mcwinter.org (mail.mcwinter.org [176.31.181.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.mcwinter.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F8E8218B for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from doppio.is.ed.ac.uk (doppio.is.ed.ac.uk [129.215.200.91]); by mail.mcwinter.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id e8190230; TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:56:49 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <53DF9121.8040903@raveisking.de> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 14:56:49 +0100 From: Jan Winter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrei Brezan Subject: Re: Skype from ports error connecting to server References: <53DF58B1.1020309@gmail.com> <53DF85EC.4090501@raveisking.de> <53DF8CE6.2050103@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <53DF8CE6.2050103@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 13:56:54 -0000 On 08/04/14 14:38, Andrei Brezan wrote: > > On 08/04/14 15:09, Jan Winter wrote: >> On 08/04/14 10:56, Andrei Brezan wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Is anyone running Skype from ports having issues connecting? >>> I get a "Sign in failed, Server connect failed" message. I am able >>> to connect with Android, Windows clients so it's not a password, >>> user account issue. >>> I'm running 10.0-RELEASE-p6, and skype 2.1.0.81_1,1. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >> >> I have the same problem on my freebsd box. On another box with linux, >> I get the same error as well. >> Maybe a skype problem? > > Most likely something to do with Microsoft not wanting older clients > to connect. What version are you using on linux? > on Linux it is 4.2.0.11 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 14:03:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50FD2219 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.mcwinter.org (mail.mcwinter.org [176.31.181.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.mcwinter.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2655229E for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from doppio.is.ed.ac.uk (doppio.is.ed.ac.uk [129.215.200.91]); by mail.mcwinter.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 2004b758; TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:03:46 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <53DF92C2.6050109@raveisking.de> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 15:03:46 +0100 From: Jan Winter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrei Brezan Subject: Re: Skype from ports error connecting to server References: <53DF58B1.1020309@gmail.com> <53DF85EC.4090501@raveisking.de> <53DF8CE6.2050103@gmail.com> <53DF9121.8040903@raveisking.de> In-Reply-To: <53DF9121.8040903@raveisking.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 14:03:49 -0000 On 08/04/14 14:56, Jan Winter wrote: > > On 08/04/14 14:38, Andrei Brezan wrote: >> >> On 08/04/14 15:09, Jan Winter wrote: >>> On 08/04/14 10:56, Andrei Brezan wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Is anyone running Skype from ports having issues connecting? >>>> I get a "Sign in failed, Server connect failed" message. I am able >>>> to connect with Android, Windows clients so it's not a password, >>>> user account issue. >>>> I'm running 10.0-RELEASE-p6, and skype 2.1.0.81_1,1. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>> >>> I have the same problem on my freebsd box. On another box with >>> linux, I get the same error as well. >>> Maybe a skype problem? >> >> Most likely something to do with Microsoft not wanting older clients >> to connect. What version are you using on linux? >> > on Linux it is 4.2.0.11 I update on the linux box skype to version 4.3.037 and it work again. So looks like version <4.2 is not supported any more. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 14:14:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B99DD4CE for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:14:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout02.plus.net (avasout02.plus.net [212.159.14.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534B324BF for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:14:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([83.149.9.154]) by avasout02 with smtp id aeAl1o0013KQSUb01eAp7c; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 15:10:51 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=TvdohVnh c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=kjf+q44YGXnN+C5f4jYxYA==:117 a=kjf+q44YGXnN+C5f4jYxYA==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=kE1_mjCYUwYA:10 a=DLOXeewSUy8A:10 a=fMZFIrYQL60A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=nc-iQ_gqAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=m_E6aFvhBIqezRLzl_QA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 X-AUTH: kevrog:2520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: BlackBerry Email (10.2.1.3247) Message-ID: <20140804141048.5865617.77177.3985@totalise.co.uk> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 15:10:48 +0100 Subject: Re: Skype from ports error connecting to server From: Kevrog In-Reply-To: <53DF85EC.4090501@raveisking.de> References: <53DF58B1.1020309@gmail.com> <53DF85EC.4090501@raveisking.de> To: Jan Winter , andrei693@gmail.com, "William A. Mahaffey III" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 14:14:01 -0000 Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. =A0 Original Message =A0 From: Jan Winter Sent: Monday, 4 August 2014 14:15 To: andrei693@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Skype from ports error connecting to server On 08/04/14 10:56, Andrei Brezan wrote: > Hi all, > > Is anyone running Skype from ports having issues connecting? > I get a "Sign in failed, Server connect failed" message. I am able to=20 > connect with Android, Windows clients so it's not a password, user=20 > account issue. > I'm running 10.0-RELEASE-p6, and skype 2.1.0.81_1,1. > > Thanks, > I have the same problem on my freebsd box. On another box with linux, I=20 get the same error as well. Maybe a skype problem? _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 14:29:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 596FEC40 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x232.google.com (mail-ob0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 125B6266D for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id nu7so4575300obb.23 for ; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 07:29:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hien.info; s=hien; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=uzlIsCqlEfODS98i8WzAbQyOxIjmH3inv3+2GDHaSas=; b=SwyLJig2aRTEC4v+eiIOJVE33gDLp7AgYzFZ4qnebRVR2w5bRLgejU/pP54iaKb3NE B5ZdJcB3RF4G1dh5apO1dMjJzbuklKEvxxBHnSCMqInkWusxGUZ4bejmrisPimXEORcT /gI2Y3IrT+9R2LTeBOl4VYYvFKTnS+1GgTVzo= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=uzlIsCqlEfODS98i8WzAbQyOxIjmH3inv3+2GDHaSas=; b=U6d7lghc4+74u0LCW/q0olo550yqjUvvX+S00eI1lnW4gMMdntNQqLmzMqTqF9I0y1 B4ntXAwNIxNZAZDdgCUUAgTCtRby8eNiz2E8auwoQBZZIpHNaTzWiJXkf6EPrF7+bdSP 9DUA96VgAIpeVXM7vYPdJoVWi7bUtKV6uTxHAHO5LmA+y9KQXeInLyP3WuCYxwnrlx1R fyPO2sy27cwP6rP4vY2bywLddbOONykq2rYrb6ToNQTTw/J7thxplZFOHEn+JLbB25yz YAp/1FGsYci93kGxC06ceEepjWsiqcnoHtkV1Ngd1IPFtc8+VEyZkCXFuOHSS43eSWSa CiyA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=uzlIsCqlEfODS98i8WzAbQyOxIjmH3inv3+2GDHaSas=; b=W7Xbb3+/ZjrZjknEtSLAdg/FDcL9Koy7t9VFPzSe7DqOkNme77bm9CAB7UqB/5h+S+ guUEh/uJ5wSLx3mTLoHrU/cxAwlcANFy0psxJ4tEDVmnI5zWfRPjyJ/NfKK0SNBOliVp G044/IllUg7b6WcNOEdhsXUk9+4R9+nBh5Vk11PfTWpm85Sx05YOSpCfw8lrD1HhNr9Q LXbCFL7kdwLwodIO9rW2XSmN1RXiQyc6rSA7Ux5/LIlO62OUuASH8aH7ueyk7Q39M1Ag qStVkW/g8EZr5tPVAsjobxEhvalHvSkz5aLTrhGM0CcqRHdoi0cwYHGxDX4xyaWwEMwg m5MQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlMQNwPCb5QteXOxNat9G2BUChYyLnR7gs+9/BGA7Jlk838wrdion37HdS+Hua6f0knlAXW MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.24.65 with SMTP id s1mr32265994obf.31.1407162560271; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 07:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Sender: hien@hien.info Received: by 10.76.89.139 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 07:29:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [183.80.209.109] In-Reply-To: <20140804141048.5865617.77177.3985@totalise.co.uk> References: <53DF58B1.1020309@gmail.com> <53DF85EC.4090501@raveisking.de> <20140804141048.5865617.77177.3985@totalise.co.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 21:29:20 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Mpd9lB1rU-bOT7UzVgfupgIG1qY Message-ID: Subject: Re: Skype from ports error connecting to server From: Hien Phan To: Kevrog Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, andrei693@gmail.com, Jan Winter , "William A. Mahaffey III" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 14:29:23 -0000 Hello, I faced same problem yesterday on Linux box, seems Skype 4.2 can not connect to skype's server anymore. Upgraded to Skype 4.3 and fixed problem. HTH. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Kevrog wrote: > > > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. > Original Message > From: Jan Winter > Sent: Monday, 4 August 2014 14:15 > To: andrei693@gmail.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Skype from ports error connecting to server > > On 08/04/14 10:56, Andrei Brezan wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Is anyone running Skype from ports having issues connecting? > > I get a "Sign in failed, Server connect failed" message. I am able to > > connect with Android, Windows clients so it's not a password, user > > account issue. > > I'm running 10.0-RELEASE-p6, and skype 2.1.0.81_1,1. > > > > Thanks, > > > > I have the same problem on my freebsd box. On another box with linux, I > get the same error as well. > Maybe a skype problem? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 15:22:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C59F157 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gromit.dlib.vt.edu (gromit.dlib.vt.edu [128.173.49.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gromit.dlib.vt.edu", Issuer "Chumby Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03B452EE9 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pmather.tower.lib.vt.edu (pmather.tower.lib.vt.edu [128.173.51.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gromit.dlib.vt.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ABF4927C for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 11:22:19 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: Unable to create ZVOL error since upgrading to 9.3-RELEASE From: Paul Mather In-Reply-To: <72AA3F10-C5A2-45F6-BC4B-B214A16EEEB6@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 11:22:19 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <72AA3F10-C5A2-45F6-BC4B-B214A16EEEB6@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 15:22:27 -0000 On Jul 30, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Paul Mather = wrote: > I have a nightly backup job that creates a snapshot of my ZFS pool,=20 > mounts the snapshot file sets appropriately under /backup, and then=20 > rsyncs that hierarchy to another system. This worked fine under=20 > 9.2-RELEASE and before. >=20 > Since upgrading to 9.3-RELEASE, I get the following error in the daily=20= > security run output for that machine: >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > redmine kernel log messages: > +++ /tmp/security.6itlEbCD 2014-07-30 03:01:10.401183488 -0400 > +ZFS WARNING: Unable to create ZVOL sys/SWAP/swap@backup (error=3D17). > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > I have swap on a ZFS ZVOL: sys/SWAP/swap. I create the snapshot via=20= > "zfs snapshot -r sys@backup" ("sys" is the name of my ZFS pool). >=20 > Does anyone know why I should be getting this error now? The same=20 > script running on the same machine gave no problems under 9.2-RELEASE. = =20 > I started getting this message as soon as I upgraded to 9.3-RELEASE. >=20 > Did some sysctl default change between 9.2-RELEASE and 9.3-RELEASE = that=20 > changed the behaviour of ZVOLs and snapshots? >=20 > The message isn't fatal, but it is annoying to have it appear every = day=20 > in the security run output. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Paul. I didn't get any responses to this, but, as a followup, I decided to=20 upgrade that system to 10.0-RELEASE-p7 and now the problem no longer=20 occurs. So, I figure this must be something peculiar to 9.3-RELEASE. Cheers, Paul. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 16:20:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FCB5EB3 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 16:20:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from geonosis.vindaloo.com (geonosis.vindaloo.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:26b:0:ac18:9026:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.vindaloo.com", Issuer "Vindaloo CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6A78259F for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 16:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.0.176] (c-24-60-164-175.hsd1.ct.comcast.net [24.60.164.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by geonosis.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C857CBCDF; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 12:19:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Hilton Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0E8D9687-6A05-48EC-A1D6-31DA9270543E"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 12:19:56 -0400 Subject: Can FreeBSD-amd64 cross compile FreeBSD-i386? To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-Id: <2225EE36-E0A1-4EA8-B9DC-E662A15F51DC@vindaloo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 16:20:01 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_0E8D9687-6A05-48EC-A1D6-31DA9270543E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Can I cross compile FreeBSD i386 from source on a FreeBSD amd64 box? I = use poudriere to manage my package repository and would like to do the = same with NFS exported /usr/{src,obj} trees. -- Chris --Apple-Mail=_0E8D9687-6A05-48EC-A1D6-31DA9270543E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT37KsAAoJEE2ar4QHIpj4hmEQAKI8kpTydjoXtCiMxB8eDrbd Ft+yNj/O1BYLXPKxUFhhBl/T/EUQZ+1Zo2EutPCgvIaaI5leYKSVquqAjoegLtEs bXkiF+MMVrcxMvZ58qcndHvYONTwoyh2YnC1fYI92o29hPpSOvswdZX2pXG3Unhq q9MzqIdCweirkrYdHxZh3F+kbFtfKDWB8PE/TlcNLdMat952Kmhitxjdem6c6pl4 Tv6v083EKEARAxSXQ8XKiQ14Wp7LA43ahq/zPDce7WAU4a1JNxLx0U/EBUhBSfUy a4LI0WwJsD7Q62HSIJHxniaVsdpEd/LFvuDcawCnkL9ukB5fH7H0BeOB679fUGN9 zeGAtLwv9zc1N2li6+0sopUbdL+ZTwojwAenfQmLQ05O27K3TN2aGS9fuZ8DSv0F XdzvLbLM9T/FsWTv0m5OY0o9/MXPvcon0Qm4l2HP94D9dhAbuA2Ip9t5+rvGNUBO 3cYhhfrOINgvgSDmFZltkyCiG9w+bAI3EUtygB3uQOC2rKl7ASVDg7i0XFO9d2uo sa8fFNlHUuTYtCkgbOwl/AQ6JspRN0VJFbvKJhc/S5X211uo/OfoQdTmdDpP4ttZ KLMx0X+wzrbFjLl8LC44jYgSvp05PJU6cDHPkHn+umYSrNr/84pMt+pmMgS0jBGW l7ua3wpSFeqCZq8JHZes =xMPg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_0E8D9687-6A05-48EC-A1D6-31DA9270543E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 18:13:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9903D62F for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 18:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from remote.thehowies.com (50-197-91-217-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.197.91.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "remote.thehowies.com", Issuer "RapidSSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBF5325D4 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 18:13:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PRIMARY.thehowies.local ([fe80::967:7eb6:ee49:3820]) by PRIMARY.thehowies.local ([fe80::967:7eb6:ee49:3820%11]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 11:12:36 -0700 From: John Howie To: Christopher Hilton , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD-amd64 cross compile FreeBSD-i386? Thread-Topic: Can FreeBSD-amd64 cross compile FreeBSD-i386? Thread-Index: AQHPr//2YimzeaS360ycftQBQkOoTZvAvzuA Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 18:12:35 +0000 Message-ID: References: <2225EE36-E0A1-4EA8-B9DC-E662A15F51DC@vindaloo.com> In-Reply-To: <2225EE36-E0A1-4EA8-B9DC-E662A15F51DC@vindaloo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.3.140616 x-originating-ip: [192.168.1.25] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <581B59F5E5B88D449CB085F1514E251B@thehowies.local> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 18:13:47 -0000 Hi Chris, Are you talking about kernel and world, or ports? If kernel and world, check out README in /usr/src, and Makefile, too, for details how to use TARGET=3D on the command line (you can also set an environment variable), and MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX environment variable. There are plenty of blogs and web-sites that cover cross compilation of FreeBSD kernel and world, that you can refer to for pointers and examples. Regards, John On 8/4/14, 9:19 AM, "Christopher Hilton" wrote: >Can I cross compile FreeBSD i386 from source on a FreeBSD amd64 box? I >use poudriere to manage my package repository and would like to do the >same with NFS exported /usr/{src,obj} trees. > >-- Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 18:58:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 030D85BD for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 18:58:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from geonosis.vindaloo.com (geonosis.vindaloo.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:26b:0:ac18:9026:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.vindaloo.com", Issuer "Vindaloo CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C74772A15 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 18:58:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.12] (173-162-242-174-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.162.242.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by geonosis.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 50D66BCDF; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:58:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD-amd64 cross compile FreeBSD-i386? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D6538F68-A6EA-4343-983E-2E4C0D185B62"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 From: Christopher Hilton In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:58:51 -0400 Message-Id: <5B2374A4-883A-42F3-9D2F-2A5AD1A60737@vindaloo.com> References: <2225EE36-E0A1-4EA8-B9DC-E662A15F51DC@vindaloo.com> To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Cc: John Howie X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 18:58:55 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_D6538F68-A6EA-4343-983E-2E4C0D185B62 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Aug 4, 2014, at 2:12 PM, John Howie wrote: > Hi Chris, >=20 > Are you talking about kernel and world, or ports? If kernel and world, > check out README in /usr/src, and Makefile, too, for details how to = use > TARGET=3D on the command line (you can also set an environment = variable), > and MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX environment variable. >=20 > There are plenty of blogs and web-sites that cover cross compilation = of > FreeBSD kernel and world, that you can refer to for pointers and = examples. Thank's, I'll look into the README. I knew that this was something = NetBSD did but I didn't realize that FreeBSD had similar support. My apologies for the question that could be answered with Google. -- Chris --Apple-Mail=_D6538F68-A6EA-4343-983E-2E4C0D185B62 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT39fsAAoJEE2ar4QHIpj4SGkQALQaF+hwNAeXgGWZJ9bLlMCl MoyMfjcZnAWxK2up+xMP8PIvuN7Emd/qVpNAR4U8A5bzmZI6JD9n7zHeB2AQo5tH wIfceADBePhCtnBxvSSlxGbbPr1zInpvQcbBP8yIsG/mkmapTqiNyh1RD5aIphFT s+Curi2SmFnyN1FRM3HG0+4Z5P/r9sQGgAzG8LwVuGQ9EeapCctQYSH6JoeMHWTn uRebBv7BMUNlaHuW78waXOtgrEcyUMaRc1kh2jj1/jFAyisgDKV4aafGmYFgBt8f wYes8+h964O5IKkQmd0JnA1EFXJw8A17f4kG/IV+qs067ekkXkQ+KnmSmJnWmPlz VRJEc3pEFGlFmFE9Gs0205b0vjwcbBBGsh88YfuTGea6nuF3NTNLm8CkXHE/oEmH KOgkRaMKDGgfmOYlZItxi84R2wgvk/ImC6dZTtCJgmmBOoidQ6Fpme6dQA/obW97 r/9wq+/HAJ3Re34kEgx3gdJlmPWmLL+GI6WaDK5j59oEoS53lL0ciqlBZ4Ilgf7h u9rzm8bNLjXiBSm+28QKm5YeKd6Pm36mx1ojy7Er68ekXDIHUoPM4oX87q3+BLlX MapJdR8LzfcdiyjJ+KnaIW8tWRhF5qLNEcBOUBWPG0GHSlO9GqsQDMSO41RG1khu b8VQ2y48CZZvPjk9othm =U9Mv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_D6538F68-A6EA-4343-983E-2E4C0D185B62-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 4 20:18:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA19360D for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 20:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5823124FF for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 20:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s74KIKCI018741 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:18:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s74KIKnq018738; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:18:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:18:20 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Jamie Griffin Subject: Re: Determining Video Hardware For "WITH_NEW_XORG" In-Reply-To: <53DF42C2.1000707@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <53DF42C2.1000707@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 Aug 2014 14:18:20 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 20:18:28 -0000 On Mon, 4 Aug 2014, Jamie Griffin wrote: > Hi > > Having looked at dmesg output and the information provided by FreeBSD devs > about supported video hardware for WITH_NEW_XORG compilation knob, I would > like to ask if you can confirm what I have determined my video hardware is: > > from dmesg: > agp0: Intel Q45 SVGA controller > > from pciconf: > vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x304817aa chip=0x2e128086 > rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller' > class = display > subclass = VGA > vgapci1@pci0:0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x304817aa chip=0x2e138086 > rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller' > class = display > > So my graphics hardware is codename 'Eaglelake' with device id 2e12. Really, it's easier to tell based on which processor. The Q45 is Core2, I think. > Does this mean this hardware is too old and therefore unsupported by the new > xorg software and necessary components? No, as far as I know only the very newest is not yet supported: the Haswell chips and maybe the weird video in the new Atoms. > As I use KDE4 - version 4.10.5 currently - will I have to stick with the > pkg(8) url "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/release/0" for upgrading and > installing packages? > > Or, can I still build the software on the machine using poudriere and specify > 'WITHOUT_NEW_XORG' in order to benefit from the latest releases of KDE et al? Again, as far as I know, you can use the latest Intel KMS driver. 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[86.130.25.215]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w7sm4909102wiy.6.2014.08.05.00.14.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Aug 2014 00:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53E08444.2010908@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 08:14:12 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Determining Video Hardware For "WITH_NEW_XORG" References: <53DF42C2.1000707@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 07:14:27 -0000 On 04/08/2014 21:18, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 4 Aug 2014, Jamie Griffin wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Having looked at dmesg output and the information provided by FreeBSD >> devs about supported video hardware for WITH_NEW_XORG compilation >> knob, I would like to ask if you can confirm what I have determined >> my video hardware is: >> >> from dmesg: >> agp0: Intel Q45 SVGA controller >> >> from pciconf: >> vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x304817aa >> chip=0x2e128086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 >> vendor = 'Intel Corporation' >> device = '4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller' >> class = display >> subclass = VGA >> vgapci1@pci0:0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x304817aa >> chip=0x2e138086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 >> vendor = 'Intel Corporation' >> device = '4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller' >> class = display >> >> So my graphics hardware is codename 'Eaglelake' with device id 2e12. > > Really, it's easier to tell based on which processor. The Q45 is > Core2, I think. My processor is a "Pentium" with 2 cores. Not i[357], just Pentium. It's a fairly low-end machine. > >> Does this mean this hardware is too old and therefore unsupported by >> the new xorg software and necessary components? > > No, as far as I know only the very newest is not yet supported: the > Haswell chips and maybe the weird video in the new Atoms. > >> As I use KDE4 - version 4.10.5 currently - will I have to stick with >> the pkg(8) url "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/release/0" for >> upgrading and installing packages? >> >> Or, can I still build the software on the machine using poudriere and >> specify 'WITHOUT_NEW_XORG' in order to benefit from the latest >> releases of KDE et al? > > Again, as far as I know, you can use the latest Intel KMS driver. Thank you for clarifying, it is a bit of a relief to know that. I've waited ages before upgrading everything until I could be sure it's not going to be in vain and have to revert back to older software. 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[86.130.25.215]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pj6sm2198156wjb.21.2014.08.05.00.24.59 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Aug 2014 00:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53E086C1.2010306@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 08:24:49 +0100 From: Jamie Paul Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Determining Video Hardware For "WITH_NEW_XORG" References: <53DF42C2.1000707@gmail.com> <20140804103545.93538db5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140804103545.93538db5.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Polytropon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 07:25:04 -0000 On 04/08/2014 09:35, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 09:22:26 +0100, Jamie Griffin wrote: >> As I use KDE4 - version 4.10.5 currently - will I have to stick with the >> pkg(8) url "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/release/0" for upgrading >> and installing packages? >> >> Or, can I still build the software on the machine using poudriere and >> specify 'WITHOUT_NEW_XORG' in order to benefit from the latest releases >> of KDE et al? > An addition: > > http://ximalas.info/2014/03/13/without_new_xorgyes-true/ > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics/WITH_NEW_XORG > > Check Intel GPU and driver in relation to KMS. Do you happen to know if the pkg url ending with .../release/0 can be used for a long time going forward or is it just a temporary facility? I had to use it to get my desktop back on my machine so I didn't have to compile it all but a lot of the packages now need updating so it seems i'm either stuck with out-of-date software or have to go ahead with changing to the WITH_NEW_XORG stuff. 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[193.239.202.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 10sm3419335wjx.26.2014.08.05.04.02.29 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Aug 2014 04:02:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53E0B9C5.4090403@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:02:29 +0200 From: Andrei Brezan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Identify disk on HighPoint RocketRaid HBA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 11:02:34 -0000 Hello list, I have a HPT HBA (Rocket 2720SGL) with 7 disks attached to it. One of the disk is experiencing issues, I can see it as da6. My problem is that I can't tell which disk this one is via smartctl. I'm running 10.0-RELEASE-p4, this is the output from dmesg: % dmesg | grep hpt | grep -v probe hpt27xx0: mem 0xf7d40000-0xf7d5ffff,0xf7d00000-0xf7d3ffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 hpt27xx: adapter at PCI 1:0:0, IRQ 16 hpt27xx: Attached device index 00 (Path 00 | Target 00 | E0/Sff) 00000000 hpt27xx: Attached device index 01 (Path 01 | Target 00 | E0/Sff) 00000000 hpt27xx: Attached device index 02 (Path 02 | Target 00 | E0/Sff) 00000000 hpt27xx: Attached device index 40 (Path 04 | Target 00 | E0/Sff) 00000000 hpt27xx: Attached device index 41 (Path 05 | Target 00 | E0/Sff) 00000000 hpt27xx: Attached device index 42 (Path 06 | Target 00 | E0/Sff) 00000000 hpt27xx: Attached device index 43 (Path 07 | Target 00 | E0/Sff) 00000000 hpt27xx0: [GIANT-LOCKED] da0 at hpt27xx0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 da1 at hpt27xx0 bus 0 scbus0 target 1 lun 0 da2 at hpt27xx0 bus 0 scbus0 target 2 lun 0 da3 at hpt27xx0 bus 0 scbus0 target 3 lun 0 da4 at hpt27xx0 bus 0 scbus0 target 4 lun 0 da5 at hpt27xx0 bus 0 scbus0 target 5 lun 0 da6 at hpt27xx0 bus 0 scbus0 target 6 lun 0 (da6:hpt27xx0:0:6:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 01 12 90 1a 00 00 01 00 (da6:hpt27xx0:0:6:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (da6:hpt27xx0:0:6:0): SCSI status: OK hpt27xx: Device error information 0x1000000 hpt27xx: Task file error, StatusReg=0x51, ErrReg=0x40, LBA[0-3]=0x12d8987,LBA[4-7]=0x0. (da6:hpt27xx0:0:6:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 00 01 2d 89 80 00 00 0d 00 (da6:hpt27xx0:0:6:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (da6:hpt27xx0:0:6:0): SCSI status: OK I can do: % sudo smartctl -i -d hpt,1/n/1 /dev/hpt27xx for n=1,2,3,5,6,7,8 I also tried: % sudo camcontrol devlist at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0) at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,da1) at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 (pass2,da2) at scbus0 target 3 lun 0 (pass3,da3) at scbus0 target 4 lun 0 (pass4,da4) at scbus0 target 5 lun 0 (pass5,da5) at scbus0 target 6 lun 0 (pass6,da6) Still no clue what disk da6 actually is. The server does not have led indicators for disks so I can't identify it with dd. % pciconf -lv | grep hpt hpt27xx0@pci0:1:0:0: class=0x010400 card=0x00001103 chip=0x27201103 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'HighPoint Technologies, Inc.' class = mass storage subclass = RAID Any ideas how to find out which disk is causing these errors? Thanks, -- Andrei From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 12:18:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DC9FAA9 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 12:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50B9620ED for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 12:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s75CImnN052932 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Aug 2014 06:18:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s75CImn9052929; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 06:18:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 06:18:48 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Jamie Paul Griffin Subject: Re: Determining Video Hardware For "WITH_NEW_XORG" In-Reply-To: <53E08444.2010908@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <53DF42C2.1000707@gmail.com> <53E08444.2010908@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 05 Aug 2014 06:18:49 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 12:18:51 -0000 On Tue, 5 Aug 2014, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > On 04/08/2014 21:18, Warren Block wrote: >> On Mon, 4 Aug 2014, Jamie Griffin wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> Having looked at dmesg output and the information provided by FreeBSD devs >>> about supported video hardware for WITH_NEW_XORG compilation knob, I would >>> like to ask if you can confirm what I have determined my video hardware >>> is: >>> >>> from dmesg: >>> agp0: Intel Q45 SVGA controller >>> >>> from pciconf: >>> vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x304817aa chip=0x2e128086 >>> rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 >>> vendor = 'Intel Corporation' >>> device = '4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller' >>> class = display >>> subclass = VGA >>> vgapci1@pci0:0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x304817aa chip=0x2e138086 >>> rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 >>> vendor = 'Intel Corporation' >>> device = '4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller' >>> class = display >>> >>> So my graphics hardware is codename 'Eaglelake' with device id 2e12. >> >> Really, it's easier to tell based on which processor. The Q45 is Core2, I >> think. > > My processor is a "Pentium" with 2 cores. Not i[357], just Pentium. It's a > fairly low-end machine. Right, but the Q45 chipset was part of the Core2 generation. They had Pentiums and Celerons as part of that family. There are Pentiums and Celerons from the current generation. Intel is terrible at making these distinct. I actually have a P45 motherboard that is very similar. If it is in usable condition, I might be able to test it. >> Again, as far as I know, you can use the latest Intel KMS driver. > > Thank you for clarifying, it is a bit of a relief to know that. I've waited > ages before upgrading everything until I could be sure it's not going to be > in vain and have to revert back to older software. Keep in mind that even if the onboard video did not work, a cheap Radeon card could be added. Any from the 4000-6000 series ought to work,along with many earlier ones. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 12:42:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D603922C for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 12:42:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C9A8252D for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 12:42:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-61.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.61]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s75Cge8O004799 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 07:42:41 -0500 Message-ID: <53E0D2B7.9060402@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 07:48:55 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: pkg question .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 12:42:48 -0000 .... is there a way to get pkg to list all available packages for installation ? 'yum -y list available' works nicely under RH linux distros .... Also, I type in 'pkg info' & all I get back is 'pkg-1.3.3 Package manager' .... I expected a list of all packages installed so far (just the base install for me at the moment) .... -- William A. 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References: <53E0D2B7.9060402@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <53E0D2B7.9060402@hiwaay.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pSrobQdTnxxNKmQMnfA2APx1EpVqCvHDk" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,RDNS_NONE,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:08:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --pSrobQdTnxxNKmQMnfA2APx1EpVqCvHDk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/05/14 13:48, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > .... is there a way to get pkg to list all available packages for > installation ? 'yum -y list available' works nicely under RH linux > distros .... Also, I type in 'pkg info' & all I get back is 'pkg-1.3.3 > Package manager' .... I expected a list of all packages installed so fa= r > (just the base install for me at the moment) .... >=20 pkg search -x . is one way to do it. There are a number of others. Cheers, Matthew --pSrobQdTnxxNKmQMnfA2APx1EpVqCvHDk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJT4NdYXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQxOUYxNTRFQ0JGMTEyRTUwNTQ0RTNGMzAw MDUxM0YxMEUwQTlFNEU3AAoJEABRPxDgqeTnp8QQAI5fChJkzgId9DdGu0N6LxRC 3hmizbuPHd7+J7+OGn6SZfwOB/WSU92UQ0eYqjIUvQupP2wluC5zHOrDXg+zpFA/ 7Bb5uDZgm2Xickb3146+YZ023p+mbfXE5kmMTx54Y3tb0Fho7GfslEgF/XyGMFHL 6Tq73ERVNjTl07hfbThuq2WooqnPE/ooCZQfw0I/Zw2Ux9HjlN95U8FMeNgfIEKc Bd4Mv2XzavjFq4RC0rvo7LuSbYq9Cdp1+whgFEq/BiVA+XYcfVCKRw7Gr7SNetIr Zi8DlAahNUMtjpSXOczOPeEeZpsVnNOu3DLC8op+nLkbBHFs/QGlZhs+x32wcRjy b5gP565+UDoSjUyCXb+lCIqYNTkTv82oZcsoj6Atf5h8utmWFWDz1Ls4u6DvbuZo vlOJqK+DAkECZ97SPtMas2U5VXQnWKv1Lhldzzr0WWkEnK4bHHv9jo8d6lWk1/TE Qr8Yetw14bqSJu3E+zcxQ2GxnWFvKJ3u9ktB0W1kwm7TeQi9oycvu1t0jrOnhJta Q6z1/WR6Zoo9VZVEAlmxoObLjWzaxnbEXXzMA2y92EVutxNbtPkwbThIiG2GRbVx pqr6LM34oNo0dxOwahkYZmV/VewKQ2jdWUQlANTgjowhzet7NjgtsgR39h3aMrjz zReY+uWFEQOSOaeQr5qw =LnpQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pSrobQdTnxxNKmQMnfA2APx1EpVqCvHDk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 13:15:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5FC6F5D for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C9CD2910 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s75DFucK079414 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Aug 2014 07:15:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s75DFudJ079411; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 07:15:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 07:15:56 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Andrei Brezan Subject: Re: Identify disk on HighPoint RocketRaid HBA In-Reply-To: <53E0B9C5.4090403@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <53E0B9C5.4090403@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 05 Aug 2014 07:15:57 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:15:58 -0000 On Tue, 5 Aug 2014, Andrei Brezan wrote: > % sudo smartctl -i -d hpt,1/n/1 /dev/hpt27xx > > for n=1,2,3,5,6,7,8 But that does not show the drive serial number? If the disk is accessible as /dev/da6: smartctl -i /dev/da6 >From "da6 at hpt27xx0 bus 0 scbus0 target 6 lun 0": camcontrol identify 0:6:0 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 13:18:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A209E1B8 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:18:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from archeo.suszko.eu (archeo.unixguru.pl [IPv6:2001:41d0:1:f47a::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FFCD2979 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:18:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from archeo (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by archeo.suszko.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49829C38FF; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 15:18:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at archeo.local Received: from archeo.suszko.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by archeo (archeo.local [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id iPa2TpJ7MPn8; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 15:18:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from helium (gate.grtech.pl [195.8.99.234]) by archeo.suszko.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A8A90C38FE; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 15:18:38 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=suszko.eu; s=dkim; t=1407244718; bh=6KPpNXCdTbP0S4JlcgiWK7R6gl15k9vExmDP593cXMA=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=ohxoWPYBY2ElnfhOn8CAGfiCLXT/ixLsCMCNhZvEUoV5H3RZ3hVhef9L9tJdhD/hy 5tUL/vVXDeXz6uIDqmfdDjCUjehBRQC+oDacPGYO/dLKmYdLmqO+liYH4IpbdeZPPE 9QW0dbUbjpk9ey7toNSAfKVlgZMRUrujtcVCSUrg= Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 15:18:32 +0200 From: Maciej Suszko To: Andrei Brezan Subject: Re: Identify disk on HighPoint RocketRaid HBA Message-ID: <20140805151832.0fa53e55@helium> In-Reply-To: <53E0B9C5.4090403@gmail.com> References: <53E0B9C5.4090403@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/MMVY=+KSF4F0DBba+a/NBBg"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:18:42 -0000 --Sig_/MMVY=+KSF4F0DBba+a/NBBg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:02:29 +0200 Andrei Brezan wrote: > Hello list, >=20 > I have a HPT HBA (Rocket 2720SGL) with 7 disks attached to it. One of=20 > the disk is experiencing issues, I can see it as da6. My problem is > that I can't tell which disk this one is via smartctl. I'm running=20 > 10.0-RELEASE-p4, this is the output from dmesg: [...] > Still no clue what disk da6 actually is. The server does not have led=20 > indicators for disks so I can't identify it with dd. >=20 > % pciconf -lv | grep hpt > hpt27xx0@pci0:1:0:0: class=3D0x010400 card=3D0x00001103 > chip=3D0x27201103 rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x00 > vendor =3D 'HighPoint Technologies, Inc.' > class =3D mass storage > subclass =3D RAID >=20 > Any ideas how to find out which disk is causing these errors? Hi, Have you tried camcontrol identify da6 command? --=20 regards, Maciej Suszko. --Sig_/MMVY=+KSF4F0DBba+a/NBBg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlPg2asACgkQCikUk0l7iGoaSACdElnHLQHffCDyTxLahhqeGkxV cAgAn0w8jO/6EBgA9ZrFo9vXDf+6nllD =nnvy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/MMVY=+KSF4F0DBba+a/NBBg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 13:19:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 762C8250 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:19:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1blp0190.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F3122991 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:19:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:e806:9aa:f68a:db81] (2601:2:4780:2fd:e806:9aa:f68a:db81) by BY1PR0301MB0839.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.193.145) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.995.14; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:18:56 +0000 Message-ID: <53E0D9BB.3050709@my.hennepintech.edu> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 08:18:51 -0500 From: Andrew Berg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subject: Re: pkg question .... 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Mahaffey III wrote: > Also, I type in 'pkg info' & all I get back is 'pkg-1.3.3 > Package manager' .... I expected a list of all packages installed so far > (just the base install for me at the moment) .... If all that you have installed beyond the base system is pkg, then all you should expect to see there is pkg. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 13:19:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC6EB2F1 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:19:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D1522999 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:19:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s75DJA6l078242; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 15:19:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8B9AE123BC; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 15:19:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 15:19:10 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: pkg question .... Message-ID: <20140805131910.GA72939@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <53E0D2B7.9060402@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53E0D2B7.9060402@hiwaay.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! 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I expected a list of all packages installed so far= =20 > (just the base install for me at the moment) .... The base install doesn't exist in packages. Packages are only for ports. So it shows exactly what it should. 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[193.239.202.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fs3sm7720055wic.20.2014.08.05.06.25.59 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Aug 2014 06:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53E0DB67.9060802@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 15:25:59 +0200 From: Andrei Brezan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Identify disk on HighPoint RocketRaid HBA References: <53E0B9C5.4090403@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:26:03 -0000 On 08/05/14 15:15, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 5 Aug 2014, Andrei Brezan wrote: > >> % sudo smartctl -i -d hpt,1/n/1 /dev/hpt27xx >> >> for n=1,2,3,5,6,7,8 > > But that does not show the drive serial number? > > If the disk is accessible as /dev/da6: > > smartctl -i /dev/da6 > > From "da6 at hpt27xx0 bus 0 scbus0 target 6 lun 0": > camcontrol identify 0:6:0 Hi, "smartctl -i -d hpt,1/1/1 /dev/hpt27xx" shows me all information about the device but I don't know which one is da6. % sudo smartctl -i /dev/da6 smartctl 6.2 2014-02-18 r3874 [FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p4 amd64] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Vendor: HPT Product: DISK 0_6 Revision: 4.00 User Capacity: 1,000,204,886,016 bytes [1.00 TB] Logical block size: 512 bytes Device type: disk Local Time is: Tue Aug 5 15:17:05 2014 CEST SMART support is: Unavailable - device lacks SMART capability. So no luck here, and: % sudo camcontrol identify 0:6:0 camcontrol: ATA ATAPI_IDENTIFY via pass_16 failed Tried camcontrol identify da6 as Maciej sugested, same output as above. Really out of ideas. -- Andrei From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 13:50:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91568BE8 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 428A22F3B for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:50:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-61.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.61]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s75Do2br025266 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 08:50:02 -0500 Message-ID: <53E0E281.9030306@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 08:56:17 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: pkg question .... References: <53E0D2B7.9060402@hiwaay.net> <20140805131910.GA72939@slackbox.erewhon.home> In-Reply-To: <20140805131910.GA72939@slackbox.erewhon.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:50:04 -0000 On 08/05/14 08:19, Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 07:48:55AM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> .... is there a way to get pkg to list all available packages for >> installation ? 'yum -y list available' works nicely under RH linux >> distros .... > pkg rquery -a '%n-%v' > > Assuming you have the FreeBSD repo set up in /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD.conf: > > FreeBSD: { > url: "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/${ABI}/latest", > mirror_type: "srv", > enabled: yes > } > >> Also, I type in 'pkg info' & all I get back is 'pkg-1.3.3 >> Package manager' .... I expected a list of all packages installed so far >> (just the base install for me at the moment) .... > The base install doesn't exist in packages. Packages are only for ports. > So it shows exactly what it should. > > Roland OK, very well. I just installed XFCE, rxvt, & samba 3.6, When I do an 'apropos xfce', is says 'xfce: nothing appropriate' .... I did a 'makewhatis -av' & still nothing .... surely there are some man pages ?!?!?! -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 14:34:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 906AED73 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 14:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E74F25DF for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 14:34:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s75EYmWQ017696 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Aug 2014 08:34:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s75EYl73017693; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 08:34:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 08:34:47 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Andrei Brezan Subject: Re: Identify disk on HighPoint RocketRaid HBA In-Reply-To: <53E0DB67.9060802@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <53E0B9C5.4090403@gmail.com> <53E0DB67.9060802@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 05 Aug 2014 08:34:48 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 14:34:50 -0000 On Tue, 5 Aug 2014, Andrei Brezan wrote: > % sudo smartctl -i /dev/da6 > smartctl 6.2 2014-02-18 r3874 [FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p4 amd64] (local build) > Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org > > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === > Vendor: HPT > Product: DISK 0_6 > Revision: 4.00 > User Capacity: 1,000,204,886,016 bytes [1.00 TB] > Logical block size: 512 bytes > Device type: disk > Local Time is: Tue Aug 5 15:17:05 2014 CEST > SMART support is: Unavailable - device lacks SMART capability. > > So no luck here, and: > > % sudo camcontrol identify 0:6:0 > camcontrol: ATA ATAPI_IDENTIFY via pass_16 failed > > Tried camcontrol identify da6 as Maciej sugested, same output as above. > > Really out of ideas. Maybe the card BIOS will show it. Most are accessible at boot through a hotkey. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 16:17:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA229F1B for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:17:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baobab.bilink.net (baobab.bilink.net [212.45.144.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7534622B7 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:17:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3hSLV416QkzCy1q for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:08:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mcs.it Received: from baobab.bilink.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (baobab.mcs.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 11027) with ESMTP id ZxzkcTrlgxkk for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:08:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermes.mcs.it (hermes.mcs.it [192.168.132.21]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3hSLV360lWzCy1m for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:08:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mordeus (unknown [192.168.44.6]) by hermes.mcs.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69851B757D for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:08:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:07:31 +0200 From: Luciano Mannucci To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Realtek SD Card reader X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) X-Face: 4qPv4GNcD; h<7Q/sK>+GqF4=CR@KmnPkSmwd+#%\F`4yjKO3"C]p'z=(oWRnsYBQGM\5g:4skqQY0NnV'dM:Mm:^/_+I@a"; [-s=ogufdF"9ggQ'=y MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 16:17:32 -0000 Hello, do we have a driver for the Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS5229 PCI Express Card Reader? I have an HP Pavillion running 10.0-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD and I see nothing through dmesg if I insert an SD Card in the reader's slot. Maybe I'm missing something, I'm new to FreeBSD... Cheers to all, Luciano. -- /"\ /Via A. Salaino, 7 - 20144 Milano (Italy) \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN / PHONE : +39 2 485781 FAX: +39 2 48578250 X AGAINST HTML MAIL / E-MAIL: posthamster@sublink.sublink.ORG / \ AND POSTINGS / WWW: http://www.lesassaie.IT/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 16:34:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12CAD6AF for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x22b.google.com (mail-we0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A43912591 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:34:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f171.google.com with SMTP id p10so1349970wes.2 for ; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 09:34:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=CgJ/MLZXPdTCoDSDLIH7WAgt1t/gNB7RsK/Q600lHqU=; b=MEEOttzXGke+98lYxZ1aEud+sLYIFAcClokrTKQK+tEH2IQWv4MH+SNICjX5flCW+S sJxwAfrmele1y+sFspZ26H8q5bsLPDopQ/BFb19tjvfdx6ChtjRQvs9WeIcPOlsgzti4 AvP2hgfmbM+dEkIkjWHkOx3aUckccs6E1A/vRvp3d9mS9CS3pRdWinKM+UYz/BXeWryi DERVxUxJpnQN9d9Y4ESU3Ay6AudbVPPGb+ZrRsA02jgC2ETRLVJoM1y+pYIVAG5GUGVl 3pYcCxxhn6zjnubrDvCdiuViIzOI6r88rQE8v3FiDCcKjBQZptLNHKlygToR+/K6xmg3 JxDg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.10.167 with SMTP id j7mr7768647wjb.100.1407256478688; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 09:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.24.165 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 09:34:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140805161736.511B2F88@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20140805161736.511B2F88@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:34:38 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Realtek SD Card reader From: =?UTF-8?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=C3=ADa?= To: Luciano Mannucci Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: User Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 16:34:42 -0000 On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > > Hello, > > do we have a driver for the Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS5229 PCI Express > Card Reader? > > I have an HP Pavillion running 10.0-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD and I see nothing > through dmesg if I insert an SD Card in the reader's slot. > > Maybe I'm missing something, I'm new to FreeBSD... After inserting the card, try: true > /dev/da0 and substitute da0 for whatever applies in your case. See if that way, the card reader is brought up. Cheers. > > Cheers to all, > > Luciano. > -- > /"\ /Via A. Salaino, 7 - 20144 Milano (Italy) > \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN / PHONE : +39 2 485781 FAX: +39 2 48578250 > X AGAINST HTML MAIL / E-MAIL: posthamster@sublink.sublink.ORG > / \ AND POSTINGS / WWW: http://www.lesassaie.IT/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 16:45:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3144CA5F for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baobab.bilink.net (baobab.bilink.net [212.45.144.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD7326A0 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:45:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3hSMK86ZdrzCy1q for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:45:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mcs.it Received: from baobab.bilink.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (baobab.mcs.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 11027) with ESMTP id y1P1qq8GVGAq for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:45:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermes.mcs.it (hermes.mcs.it [192.168.132.21]) by baobab.bilink.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3hSMK84J9QzCy1m for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:45:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mordeus (unknown [192.168.44.6]) by hermes.mcs.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F971B757D for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:45:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:44:52 +0200 From: Luciano Mannucci To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Realtek SD Card reader In-Reply-To: References: <20140805161736.511B2F88@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) X-Face: 4qPv4GNcD; h<7Q/sK>+GqF4=CR@KmnPkSmwd+#%\F`4yjKO3"C]p'z=(oWRnsYBQGM\5g:4skqQY0NnV'dM:Mm:^/_+I@a"; [-s=ogufdF"9ggQ'=y MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 16:45:34 -0000 On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:34:38 +0200 Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa wrote: > After inserting the card, try: >=20 > true > /dev/da0 >=20 > and substitute da0 for whatever applies in your case. Well, the problem is that I see no /dev/daX appearing after inserting the card. Thats the reason why I think I may have one driver missing. Thanks anyway, Luciano. --=20 /"\ /Via A. 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dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral Message-ID: <53E119F3.6030804@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 18:52:51 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg problem after upgrade pkg on 10.0 References: <942dafe6-a6d6-4a6c-a559-0b5947bdcbaa@email.android.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kmI4OG77WMLvBG6D8kGv7lRgLd42LptOQ" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 17:53:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --kmI4OG77WMLvBG6D8kGv7lRgLd42LptOQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/08/2014 18:00, Radek Krej=C4=8Da wrote: >> I think you would not have to remove the repro, pkg does everything >> itself by using pkg update. Maybe it helps to reinstall pkg. >> Commands: >> # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg >> # make deinstall >> # make >> # make install clean >=20 > [Radek Krejca]=20 >=20 > Hello, thank you. But its still the same: >=20 > pkg update > Updating repository catalogue > pkg: http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/freebsd:10:x86:64/latest/meta.txz: Not Foun= d > pkg: repository FreeBSD has no meta file, using default settings > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date > All repositories are up-to-date After updating from pkg-1.2.7 to pkg-1.3.x I've been finding it necessary to delete the repository catalogues and sometimes to clear out any cached packages: # rm -i /var/db/pkg/repo-* /var/db/pkg/*.meta # pkg clean -a You should then find that pkg will update its catalogues and start behaving more sensibly. Don't worry about the warning about 'no meta file' -- that is /only/ a warning and doesn't stop pkg(8) from working. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --kmI4OG77WMLvBG6D8kGv7lRgLd42LptOQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJT4Rn7XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATZHsQAKhw+88U2M593c4BFWXT3BwP 5JOGi+Mz/GRQJh9A/f6WHcgDyv99AejhBhNYkvNvg4T+mkhyVl1AvdTWyf6DRLnz liCGx6vyf2ik0fhq1sUMbkOvAlNYWJbXkYBkj4ptDQxlZFHah8DvvmFfO1ZJ3/M7 lJOYxDRaLTpA6BuRBLb0RfdWqFrvcB9h1RKc6fcYhTnuWdxL5opUCHnPkhcJmGkX JfpHFCxg5qCq+Jw+RnOp6AEUp7ixHKI6LYU2JJV9uQOaiHGFEOnlJAVP1pbndBKu N+XXE3PxqI7IfK2f9YOfeHOdDHEqSEmca/L5xgu9lzoRmCCOh5/rUVqwVrDjbOuh aHuyMDffelHCC0XBnV8Ky/Z06nbnEAdY+NdblcwGxud+/RzFTEFsR8O3192vE5nS n6xGKlUQbHUM0B0pZS8c/GgHkhVrqkYYhRXy2ORN7ZYuwiimLmRVcINXpHkcL54J fJo1O+XptqVyIR3qJnZPjylCKsQQvpF5XWGw1CmAi46GiJmC3auV/UGd/BmCl9i0 N7jm8aiw07hwfbRixlzZgNgAeHjnRJf7MuGWrUuqcPQ3RkM8nX3jO/qirK8zQYxk ttab0IXmYkx6u0hVElY7oFNDPLtQr62f7A+wWVY/p+NjVtORHmadhmO/bUwPwvp+ gKHDQ+RJwNq6ii9EnO29 =+ZaL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kmI4OG77WMLvBG6D8kGv7lRgLd42LptOQ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 19:35:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4C18281 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 19:35:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relaygateway01.edpnet.net (relaygateway01.edpnet.net [212.71.1.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9C12BD7 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 19:35:21 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApUGAHwx4VNNbXB9/2dsb2JhbABbgw1SV4J3yHuHTAGBFRd3hAMBAQQBIzMjEAsYCRMOAgIPBSUkiE0MrGORCYYMF45+TgeCeTaBHAWVKoZiAZRhg087Lw X-IPAS-Result: ApUGAHwx4VNNbXB9/2dsb2JhbABbgw1SV4J3yHuHTAGBFRd3hAMBAQQBIzMjEAsYCRMOAgIPBSUkiE0MrGORCYYMF45+TgeCeTaBHAWVKoZiAZRhg087Lw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,807,1400018400"; d="scan'208";a="268197299" Received: from 77.109.112.125.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net (HELO mordor.lan) ([77.109.112.125]) by relaygateway01.edpnet.net with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 05 Aug 2014 21:05:34 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 21:34:41 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: Steve Burton Subject: Re: switch serial connection Message-ID: <20140805193441.GB74890@mordor.lan> References: <20140804114628.GA74890@mordor.lan> <53DF8C3B.6090207@sliderule.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8GpibOaaTibBMecb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53DF8C3B.6090207@sliderule.demon.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 19:35:23 -0000 --8GpibOaaTibBMecb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 02:35:55PM +0100, Steve Burton wrote: > On 04/08/2014 12:46, Julien Cigar wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have an old switch (Planet GSW-1200S) with a serial port to which I'm > > trying to connect, it seems to work with: > > > > $> sudo cu -l /dev/ttyU0 -s 38400 > > > > when I execute this command and power on the switch I have the > > following: https://dpaste.de/iEOr > > > > The problem is that when I press Enter it hangs, it seems that the key > > is never "sent" on the wire .. Any idea what the problem could be .. ? > > > > Thanks, > > Julien > > > perhaps ^J instead of enter? nop :( doesn't work, the screen just "hangs" .. is there a tcpdump-like tool to debug a serial connection? Thanks, Julien >=20 > Steve. --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --8GpibOaaTibBMecb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAABCgAGBQJT4THRAAoJEAi2KiTKQR5pGRoP/2x3TwH7OZq/q14S4ksXIwi5 rj1cRMDhwCyJCCmuLMcm8UQeEpbTL0AyyNX683rxwv9sLP7fmbfOKEyUOJD7FwW+ V+FHS4/B7cjxjc8+yjIy3yHTnzqd0dnQpX7PeHkIgk2GaPiS6QkwU3WrvXjhq5Jj IO9gsrOcLQ9ITmiUhiUSCED4hFK4I3K2hp7JKUYYPYC8Lr+y4wM2MPf8YDqCDJKn fmjOT5kygODzh646+AySveqHEDu9PrRvwtbiaCGsPO0cI7sO1bzwkPJVeRNSEICk qsYTagKegzAp6t5UMgdRt2eD0goUzuUHnOUOyebmy+Zp2HLJL/BFljUH1sxByB+P Ip8L9F5BF03I+hd+mJjmLBJoFV/Lh6Fcc3bCEIn2CiWOtOK8AL7o9FIk7dcgvAc2 D+W7ngjBZGi+dGrHGqmqER8hQCOmKo3DhwB5jN0O2QDLKwRomoRAUP7W8cTzi14D biMB/jgX3rHeoi0hsLKemFe41k74cFj+hxjDujLxMXxIjDfVLTekVv6JPRa2+yAw lJmbcCmWk0XmdU+0O84UijlBk6xn9DVLhAnd293W/t1CCWCba0nhgpzlQlHCEBJZ x5Jmnq04ZWP+Ag3wH5xTEK5ViXw7qBFyBcQ8WCYPNJ7BJMlqGTypCPlzHlGdg8F+ 0qgHoR4v3Qj5bnCEqA6E =L0/V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8GpibOaaTibBMecb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 20:06:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6754198D for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 20:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1.bway.net (smtp1.bway.net [216.220.96.27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4247C200D for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 20:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gecko3.bs.net (host-216-220-115-104.dsl.bway.net [216.220.115.104]) (using SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mfv@bway.net) by smtp1.bway.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FE1D95854 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:06:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:06:06 -0400 From: mfv To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg problem after upgrade pkg on 10.0 In-Reply-To: <53E119F3.6030804@FreeBSD.org> References: <942dafe6-a6d6-4a6c-a559-0b5947bdcbaa@email.android.com> <53E119F3.6030804@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 20:06:15 -0000 On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 18:52:51 +0100 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 05/08/2014 18:00, Radek Krej=C4=8Da wrote: > >> I think you would not have to remove the repro, pkg does everything > >> itself by using pkg update. Maybe it helps to reinstall pkg. > >> Commands: > >> # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg > >> # make deinstall > >> # make > >> # make install clean > >=20 > > [Radek Krejca]=20 > >=20 > > Hello, thank you. But its still the same: > >=20 > > pkg update > > Updating repository catalogue > > pkg: http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/freebsd:10:x86:64/latest/meta.txz: Not > > Found pkg: repository FreeBSD has no meta file, using default > > settings FreeBSD repository is up-to-date > > All repositories are up-to-date >=20 > After updating from pkg-1.2.7 to pkg-1.3.x I've been finding it > necessary to delete the repository catalogues and sometimes to clear > out any cached packages: >=20 > # rm -i /var/db/pkg/repo-* /var/db/pkg/*.meta > # pkg clean -a >=20 > You should then find that pkg will update its catalogues and start > behaving more sensibly. Don't worry about the warning about 'no meta > file' -- that is /only/ a warning and doesn't stop pkg(8) from > working. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Matthew >=20 Hello, The reason that the file "meta.txz" is not found is that it does not exist, except on http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/freebsd:11:x86:32/latest/meta.txz -- and=20 http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/freebsd:11:x86:64/latest/meta.txz -- My guess is that since release 11 is the leading edge of development it is being used for testing purposes. I suppose if the tests work out then this file and the purposes for which it exists will be back ported. Some other person who is more knowledgeable than myself could comment on the need for meta.txz. I am running pkg-1.3.4 on release 9.1 and the same message appears when I run "pkg update" or "pkg upgrade". Nevertheless, both parameters to pkg work as intended. I've been using the new pkg program since it was first released and except for a few minor hiccups with no data loss it has worked quite well. Kudos to the developers. Carpe Diem __o _.\<,_ Marek (+)/ (+) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 20:51:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0030B22D for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 20:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B538124B4 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 20:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BD973CD3C; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 22:51:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s75Kp7O2001998; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 22:51:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 22:51:07 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: pkg question .... Message-Id: <20140805225107.ccf9944a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53E0E281.9030306@hiwaay.net> References: <53E0D2B7.9060402@hiwaay.net> <20140805131910.GA72939@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53E0E281.9030306@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 20:51:18 -0000 On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 08:56:17 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > When I do an > 'apropos xfce', is says 'xfce: nothing appropriate' .... I did a > 'makewhatis -av' & still nothing .... surely there are some man pages ?!?!?! Please understand that "modern" software does not come with manpages anymore. Documentation, _if_ it actually exists, is scattered across the web. You'll find it in discussion forums, blogs, user home pages, and wikis. Sometimes, there's something in /usr/local/share, but don't bet your money on it... :-) No, seriously: Most desktop environments don't have manpages. Few programs have, because nobody reads them. Still there are some exceptions, like "man opera", "man openoffice", "man xmms" or "man gmplayer". On the other hand, try "man firefox", "man kde" or "man grip". On one of my older systems where I have XFCE 3 installed, when I type "man xfce", do you know what happens? A manpage appears! You can see: Sometimes, someone made a decision not to maintain manpages anymore and instead concentrate on software features, look & feal, following the most recent Linux development and just coding along. This is a _valid_ decision, even though a minority of 0.01% of the users might not appreciate it. ;-) PS. Don't even think about asking for _localized_ manpages in a non-english language! :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 20:57:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A7AD554 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 20:57:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C0A82594 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 20:57:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BDC73CCE1; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 22:57:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s75KvnfS002112; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 22:57:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 22:57:49 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Julien Cigar Subject: Re: switch serial connection Message-Id: <20140805225749.cb80370a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140805193441.GB74890@mordor.lan> References: <20140804114628.GA74890@mordor.lan> <53DF8C3B.6090207@sliderule.demon.co.uk> <20140805193441.GB74890@mordor.lan> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 20:57:52 -0000 On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 21:34:41 +0200, Julien Cigar wrote: > is there a tcpdump-like tool to debug a serial connection? You should at least be able to < and > and | od -x at the involved serial device files, parallel to your cu program. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 21:13:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14DCE954 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 21:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A03C32746 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 21:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s75LDABw098450; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 23:13:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4B3CE123C9; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 23:13:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 23:13:10 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: pkg question .... Message-ID: <20140805211310.GA77763@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <53E0D2B7.9060402@hiwaay.net> <20140805131910.GA72939@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53E0E281.9030306@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53E0E281.9030306@hiwaay.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 21:13:21 -0000 --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 08:56:17AM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > OK, very well. I just installed XFCE, rxvt, & samba 3.6, When I do an=20 > 'apropos xfce', is says 'xfce: nothing appropriate' .... I did a=20 > 'makewhatis -av' & still nothing .... surely there are some man pages ?!?= !?! Odd. If you look at /etc/man.conf, does it contain the following line? MANPATH /usr/local/man You did run makewhatis as root, right? And there are xfce manpages in /usr/local/man, yes? At the first glance though, XFCE doesn't seem to have all that many manpage= s; :~> find /usr/ports/ -type d -name '*xfce*' -exec grep -H 'man/man.*\.[1-9]= \.gz' \{\}/pkg-plist \; /usr/ports/x11/xfce4-screenshooter-plugin/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-screensh= ooter.1.gz /usr/ports/x11/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-popup-whis= kermenu.1.gz /usr/ports/x11/xfce4-terminal/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-terminal.1.gz /usr/ports/sysutils/xfce4-power-manager/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-power-mana= ger.1.gz /usr/ports/sysutils/xfce4-power-manager/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-power-mana= ger-settings.1.gz /usr/ports/textproc/xfce4-dict-plugin/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-dict.1.gz /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-session/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-session-logout.1.gz /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-session/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-session.1.gz /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-desktop/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfdesktop.1.gz /usr/ports/audio/xfce4-mixer/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-mixer.1.gz /usr/ports/deskutils/xfce4-notifyd/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-notifyd-config.= 1.gz (Of course this only found those ports that have a pkg-plist.) Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT4UjmAAoJEED21dyjijPgm4sQAJxb8CKRwhPfxZZxcIu5Wiym S2CkaoaDeHmE+sVAyDQljgurYyA8iBpgeU9l8YHlNKIua1ijVucbomO5DoB3jeed f4qTxhbO9g89AHoKFvay8D45rpSlj3wswIGrD3x8lNdLvC4DiWySSyYm/WqSeF24 wiQ2+42k/QtvBL4RSRYIbEgV7VIFp0leHtOihZvefbe8JuhXolHo1kCxI9QX6CKr KfoBSj2x0UXrY6V1EYT1L2M+PA6DmYR4NTnXGH2XUdd5MIDmirK8iOR8fdho9gOr 6vkLa8tlWRkryQP516wBMTbnWJ/tb8kIri8XMAG+AlN6HoUiFuakEU43oBHQ2osJ C5arA1mzZnIIp3atUXZudtExqBZ5X8MKiztWzRaloZXSQeI8yWBYsTx40gnvBL9P 0qkc8UPU6Gzm77ghZh4bHL4RRSrbKNg5z17PYJVf5CRLaAuvZuoRiQ8cGss9IkdK UsVZr3HhOTWb0itdza8tmyil4sRc77MOB3kIY0bMeQJxi3+QTpOxewl0KorFLiqR 1HTUMlcjsUzk8/kbb+t69/ESplo5Ri8VLzXTDhnNGViC2mVwbJJJHCdmDllgdy1O 6SBZT30QOmTD5a/PPpo2uixRmR2ST67s96Cnw+Vw00O8Rozxt0Q0WuHW+uuAl7cG wtwORHzDMt8ZysN0BG2r =+N9Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 21:46:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3634FFD4 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 21:46:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C743F2A6F for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 21:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s75LkaAR002778; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 23:46:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 63706123C9; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 23:46:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 23:46:36 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Luciano Mannucci Subject: Re: Realtek SD Card reader Message-ID: <20140805214636.GB77763@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Luciano Mannucci , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20140805161736.6F6C2F96@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140805161736.6F6C2F96@hub.freebsd.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 21:46:40 -0000 --R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 06:07:31PM +0200, Luciano Mannucci wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > do we have a driver for the Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS5229 PCI E= xpress > Card Reader? >=20 > I have an HP Pavillion running 10.0-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD and I see nothing > through dmesg if I insert an SD Card in the reader's slot. >=20 > Maybe I'm missing something, I'm new to FreeBSD... There is only one driver for SD cards, AFAIK: sdhci(4). Looking at the sour= ce code in /usr/src/sys/dev/sdhci/sdhci_pci.c, there doesn't seem to be an ent= ry for your chip in the sdhci_devices array. So it is probably not supported. There is a Linux driver for this chip, but it looks so different from sdhci= that I don't have a clue if it could be ported. 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Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 23:17:41 -0000 Is it not possible to run both a caching lookup server using Unbound (in FreeBSD 10) and an authoritative server using NSD (installed from ports) on the same box? BIND used to perform both functions as I remember, provided you configured it as such. Does NSD also do caching? We have a /27 so I could configure one or the other to listen on a different IP, but only if I really have to. I got: service local_unbound start Performing initial setup. Extracting forwarders from /etc/resolv.conf. /var/unbound/forward.conf created /var/unbound/unbound.conf created /etc/resolvconf.conf created original /etc/resolv.conf saved as /etc/resolv.conf.20140805.185119 Starting local_unbound. [1407279079] unbound[7957:0] error: bind: address already in use [1407279079] unbound[7957:0] fatal error: could not open ports /etc/rc.d/local_unbound: WARNING: failed to start local_unbound ------------------------------------------------------------------------- shot through the heart ooh baby do you know what that's worth and you're to blame ooh heaven is a place on earth darling you give love they say in heaven love comes first a bad name we'll make heaven a place on earth ORBITAL "Halcyon Live" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 01:06:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06B5729B for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 01:06:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-f173.google.com (mail-vc0-f173.google.com [209.85.220.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B88ED21E9 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 01:06:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id hy10so2970505vcb.18 for ; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 18:06:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+PS1+sFTriAh9g3G4Bl1uILPk/GdMVmV4GG3ZXLWZGI=; b=Fn6RQL+HQfxDPveM0y2sUqTAWODhEJk2Mk4hwalZHyY+oMSPD0jeIVvqEJnJdgRj/B 7v+3cMU0OzFS57RpuUO09llxZmJ61zrgVJ1l1qIE28t1+nep3vhBkUhXWKQ4GydMCJyW OSHG0K3gA9jI9oMU+1ZDJZljg50PiF4WO4et5xH0wpF1DGK/eckGtBQjtEXobd67K/Vf TZGSU2lAcrysJ8tT1dswRB2U/4ZG/1R7eQqx86lQ+KgspuKgq1id2pQPcyqgGuGwPqTP /qLKv2Vr5BnjiE+is+c/mMHvqo80AnvP1gCDW1xF/+Kpx3eN1udpHDL06A2Tvi7/x2ko r8eQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkpnHTy0elSmfmOzbAUjy9TCSP2fdb5bO2g3fG5jml3oXOqa17J8tBxNtV4yOMTnSojQVVV MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.221.38.4 with SMTP id tg4mr6362334vcb.44.1407287176567; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 18:06:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.208.227 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:06:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [164.109.52.243] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 11:06:16 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Best VPS setup From: Anders Jensen-Waud To: Goran Tepshic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 01:06:24 -0000 Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:09 AM, Goran Tepshic wrote: > I'd like to know what would be the most reasonable setup for VPS hosting 20 > domains. > Separate jail for each domain with Apache/PHP/MariaDB instance in each of > them (*sounds somewhat overkill*) or just Apache with virtual hosts or > maybe a jail with apache and multiple vhosts? > that depends on the configuration and level of flexibility needed for each web site. If each web site simply needs the same Apache/PHP/MariaDB version, then I would recommend starting out with one Jail with 20 vhosts. Should there be a need to branch out from the standard setup then you can always clone the jail, make the necessary amendments (e.g. MySQL instead of MariaDB or an older/newer PHP version) and easily move the vhosts to that Jail. Starting out with a base Jail means that you get the flexibility "baked-in" for free without additional overhead. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 01:19:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 355FA63B for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 01:19:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay-h22.telenor.se (smtprelay-h22.telenor.se [195.54.99.197]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABF512433 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 01:19:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipb5.telenor.se (ipb5.telenor.se [195.54.127.168]) by smtprelay-h22.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7167C7AC for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 02:55:25 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [83.227.225.121] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoGAMV74VNT4+F5/2dsb2JhbABAGoMNUlfLfAcaCoZ1gWMXd4QEAQEBAwEBAUsIGAsQCxgJFBEPBRMBBQQIJQcHBAEcBIglAQg2wjIXjnsBAYQFgRwBBJUqg2+CcwGBVJMNg087LwEGgQY X-IPAS-Result: ApoGAMV74VNT4+F5/2dsb2JhbABAGoMNUlfLfAcaCoZ1gWMXd4QEAQEBAwEBAUsIGAsQCxgJFBEPBRMBBQQIJQcHBAEcBIglAQg2wjIXjnsBAYQFgRwBBJUqg2+CcwGBVJMNg087LwEGgQY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,808,1400018400"; d="scan'208";a="738099132" Received: from ua-83-227-225-121.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO ymer.thorshammare.org) ([83.227.225.121]) by ipb5.telenor.se with ESMTP; 06 Aug 2014 02:55:25 +0200 Received: from ymer.thorshammare.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ymer.thorshammare.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s760tCVt023949 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Aug 2014 02:55:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from admin@ymer.thorshammare.org) Received: (from root@localhost) by ymer.thorshammare.org (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id s760t76L023948; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 02:55:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from admin) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 02:55:07 +0200 From: Charlie Root To: freebsd@fongaboo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NSD & Unbound on same box? Message-ID: <20140806005507.GA23913@ymer.thorshammare.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at mailhub3.thorshammare.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 01:19:27 -0000 --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 07:09:50PM -0400, freebsd@fongaboo.com wrote: >=20 > Is it not possible to run both a caching lookup server using Unbound (in= =20 > FreeBSD 10) and an authoritative server using NSD (installed from ports)= =20 > on the same box? >=20 > BIND used to perform both functions as I remember, provided you configure= d=20 > it as such. Does NSD also do caching? >=20 > We have a /27 so I could configure one or the other to listen on a=20 > different IP, but only if I really have to. >=20 >=20 > I got: >=20 > service local_unbound start > Performing initial setup. > Extracting forwarders from /etc/resolv.conf. > /var/unbound/forward.conf created > /var/unbound/unbound.conf created > /etc/resolvconf.conf created > original /etc/resolv.conf saved as /etc/resolv.conf.20140805.185119 > Starting local_unbound. > [1407279079] unbound[7957:0] error: bind: address already in use > [1407279079] unbound[7957:0] fatal error: could not open ports > /etc/rc.d/local_unbound: WARNING: failed to start local_unbound >=20 >=20 > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > shot through the heart ooh baby do you know what that's wo= rth > and you're to blame ooh heaven is a place on ea= rth > darling you give love they say in heaven love comes fi= rst > a bad name we'll make heaven a place on ea= rth > ORBITAL "Halcyon Li= ve" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" ------------------------------------------------ Hello. Same IP, but different ports will work. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nsd /Hasse Hansson --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIbBAEBAgAGBQJT4XzrAAoJEAqrEhCvk86fOYEP92bkL6l8qYviJ6J7r6jckY2t uL0i2N1tue4Kd5lJWgS0dqgOONuRibkHZ7KfEo0Z2vnF7T1uqG/H5fxBIKH6wvWE HDin2eAu1vIOkBxfit1wGiJ1deXUxqsPZ1E13BznhwD7PS3+TdsfNbRgS9WsMIDH p9146TebrrnYTpU5vZmIKjSecATLrLdYL76XEvTGz6BpxAN6RL6M11U03PHq6LhZ r5VdAQaOMzrYNlos0lZx/hdRnV5QcMTIxS8jA8A/7uTgZUgXWRUPltT02G7g05xB Ac4FV3Sav+QsaIVFguyWF/x/tChKEiuvzyatDkjUujN3lXoqgNA8My2nAaxo0wSC aY0b4GSnehLE22H1DUQdA7d5TDjp0WVuxL6Q6AoN7rYyt5Vy14mIiWXT1rwoQebe QQYHblCZc+pMsW3ofMPhjNyY0eF5qXwVE5U/LWrPgl6zOQbcnpZihOGFFObexhrN RaWTv8QAU7IsaeM5QvlOSqiQlhw589kdwsMAeg+XOyJdTLBXncFVuZTB4nbyFE6X DqzqnHql2VF1zUj98zofpeDzDhvsZ4j1s62TbzTylJWF68a/2VatDxzhXgPYDV+b oynEsIdtqPfX4i3lVXYf15FpG2+LzDklADDVfyY8bChBnC2oc2lN3lOWClm5Udwk yMNF+uKkvAHX2LI6N0A= =C+W6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 01:19:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73A896CB for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 01:19:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-f54.google.com (mail-qg0-f54.google.com [209.85.192.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DD1E2443 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 01:19:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id z60so2015139qgd.13 for ; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 18:19:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Nci78v64cqedQDr71LpZr87JFTyDXBPoOQQIETxsSN8=; b=gRVN4FspqL7ZRfSAChuNp/XQ97iYpqYRlKaXqCEvBYDXHxU1JQ07Yg6Oho7IJO4Bjk RzY4PIJnnBVzsxUYGDQNGWCTXGihdEVQxZreUczu36hWGpkePNlagGy4ub+Po21TfstZ UNkR9GWYEqcLZ51few7JQp4rVQ+xN0d+TeY4s6sWQ8b9zNXGtvir8MHWxcGeqomEA948 UvRGXj4RwOphFpToXp7+DSuhQUxtAB2PE0a6zmFmJjQHhVcpkOE6ojbjPPTt0qXx+YFS c0epACcFVxfzBBGzbmiS3gldlYTO8BRrQINYvAfg35NrETz7Y2sxq426fp4lgIbumKjV gSRQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQll6I8RtVY/rbKvI01uEHBgT1WsJ1cSLgbTdihhTpBdNNXaRzGYHEktzkKP0k3wXvFt2Lt5 X-Received: by 10.140.92.235 with SMTP id b98mr10685998qge.97.1407287984070; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 18:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.127] (c-71-234-255-65.hsd1.vt.comcast.net. [71.234.255.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p12sm3684391qga.0.2014.08.05.18.19.43 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Aug 2014 18:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: ZFS under FreeBSD failure modes From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <20140802213848.GC77128@neutralgood.org> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 21:19:41 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <53DAFCF2.2070909@hiwaay.net> <53DB9797.1010702@hiwaay.net> <20140801164335.GA16376@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53DBF71D.3080807@hiwaay.net> <20140801232843.GB17393@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53DCF32A.30700@hiwaay.net> <20140802185442.GA28910@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53DD533D.7090700@hiwaay.net> <20140802213848.GC77128@neutralgood.org> To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 01:19:53 -0000 On Aug 2, 2014, at 17:38, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > I'd be careful running ZFS on a machine that lacks ECC memory. Lots of > people do it, but I'd be worried that ZFS would get itself into a = state > where you couldn't access anything. I am startring to see comments like this on a more frequent basis. What = is the failure mechanism you expect to run into here? > UFS I believe handles some kinds of > damage better than ZFS. Can you please be specific. I reed asking this question in another = thread and just received snide comments back. What *specific* failure = modes, and I am looking for technical details here, does UFS handle = better than ZFS and why? What is it about ZFS that does not handle that = failure? > When was the last time anyone heard of a UFS file > system being so damaged that it couldn't be recovered? Anecdotal evidence at best. I have plenty of anecdotal evidence that ZFS = never looses data. I don=92t claim it as fact.=20 In the early years of ZFS (and in the early years of ZFS under FreeBSD) = it was much more picky about how you did things. One example; an = absolute rule of mine was to never, ever relocate drives from an = IMPORTED zpool. I had seen too many reports of zpools being corrupted or = otherwise rendered unable to be mounted when drives were moved around. = Both the ZFS code and the underlying device driver code is much better = today, so it is much less of an issue (but I still try to avoid it, I = EXPORT the pool before I make any hardware changes). -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 01:40:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47CCDCAE for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 01:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 083362659 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 01:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10CAB24C42; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 03:40:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s761eR02001982; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 03:40:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 03:40:27 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Benfell Subject: Re: pkg question .... Message-Id: <20140806034027.ced302b2.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140806012926.GA98597@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <53E0D2B7.9060402@hiwaay.net> <20140805131910.GA72939@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53E0E281.9030306@hiwaay.net> <20140805225107.ccf9944a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140806012926.GA98597@home.parts-unknown.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 01:40:37 -0000 On Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:29:26 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > I think Debian enforces a policy of including man pages in its > packages. These would then get incorporated with at least some > packages in Debian-based distributions of Linux, like Ubuntu and Mint > Linux. In some cases, "man something" just redirects you to "info something". And even excellent software like TSK has moved its documentation on-line, leaving just a sad reminder in /usr/local/share/doc... :-( This situation is especially annoying when you do not have Internet connection (e. g., in environments that enforce a very strict security policy, and you're happy about "man mencoder" providing the information you need). > So man pages might be among the documents to be found on the web. But > I'll hesitate to suggest just how useful they might be for FreeBSD. The more "OS dependent" they are, the less helpful they'll probably be. And it's not that manpages are exclusive to command line utilities. For example, there's "man opera", but no "man firefox". So it _is_ possible, but developers don't seem to be interested in devoting time to create actually useful manpages when they can leave that task to the users. :-) Writing a manpage technically isn't hard, but _really_ writing it... can be. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 01:52:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B527FA4 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 01:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ssimicro.com (mail.ssimicro.com [64.247.129.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ssimicro.com", Issuer "RapidSSL CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98A7127E5 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 01:52:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from markhams-MacBook-Pro.local (rageous.ssimicro.com [64.247.134.200]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.ssimicro.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s761k5Gq085241 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 19:46:05 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <53E188DD.1030101@corp.ssimicro.com> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 19:46:05 -0600 From: markham breitbach User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best VPS setup References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 01:52:09 -0000 Personally, I prefer the security of jails to apache/mysql shared hosting. I setup a system based on our in-house implementation of jails that allows us to create virtual hosts based on a single "instance" of apache/php/mysql. In essence the instance is mounted into each jail by the host as a read-only file system. All the configs/logs/etc are setup as symlinks back to a local config directory that is mounted read/write for each jail, and the home directory is also RW. This has the advantage that even if apache/php is exploited it is impossible for the attacker to mess with the base system, and this also gives me the advantage that I can update or patch all 20 (in my case is more like 80) jails at the same time. -Markham On 2014-08-05, 7:06 PM, Anders Jensen-Waud wrote: > Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:09 AM, Goran Tepshic wrote: > >> I'd like to know what would be the most reasonable setup for VPS hosting 20 >> domains. >> Separate jail for each domain with Apache/PHP/MariaDB instance in each of >> them (*sounds somewhat overkill*) or just Apache with virtual hosts or >> maybe a jail with apache and multiple vhosts? >> > that depends on the configuration and level of flexibility needed for each > web site. > > If each web site simply needs the same Apache/PHP/MariaDB version, then I > would recommend starting out with one Jail with 20 vhosts. > > Should there be a need to branch out from the standard setup then you can > always clone the jail, make the necessary amendments (e.g. MySQL instead of > MariaDB or an older/newer PHP version) and easily move the vhosts to that > Jail. > > Starting out with a base Jail means that you get the flexibility "baked-in" > for free without additional overhead. > > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 02:23:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E784065E for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 02:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1blp0186.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.186]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B69F2AFC for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 02:23:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:e806:9aa:f68a:db81] (2601:2:4780:2fd:e806:9aa:f68a:db81) by BY1PR0301MB0840.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.193.146) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.995.14; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 02:23:34 +0000 Message-ID: <53E191A1.6010603@my.hennepintech.edu> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 21:23:29 -0500 From: Andrew Berg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subject: Re: ZFS under FreeBSD failure modes References: <53DAFCF2.2070909@hiwaay.net> <53DB9797.1010702@hiwaay.net> <20140801164335.GA16376@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53DBF71D.3080807@hiwaay.net> <20140801232843.GB17393@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53DCF32A.30700@hiwaay.net> <20140802185442.GA28910@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53DD533D.7090700@hiwaay.net> <20140802213848.GC77128@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: [2601:2:4780:2fd:e806:9aa:f68a:db81] X-ClientProxiedBy: BN3PR0301CA0018.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.180.156) To BY1PR0301MB0840.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.193.146) X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID: X-Forefront-PRVS: 02951C14DC X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(199002)(51704005)(24454002)(189002)(54356999)(110136001)(89122001)(92566001)(50986999)(77096002)(87266999)(99396002)(50466002)(76176999)(107886001)(93886004)(74502001)(74662001)(2351001)(107046002)(65816999)(92726001)(85306004)(64706001)(101416001)(76482001)(83506001)(79102001)(59896001)(77982001)(81542001)(20776003)(81342001)(105586002)(33656002)(47776003)(19580395003)(19580405001)(86362001)(42186005)(23676002)(80316001)(102836001)(87976001)(83322001)(83072002)(4396001)(31966008)(75432001)(88552001)(46102001)(85852003)(21056001)(65956001)(65806001)(106356001)(95666004)(80022001)(3826002); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BY1PR0301MB0840; H:[IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:e806:9aa:f68a:db81]; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; LANG:en; X-OriginatorOrg: my.hennepintech.edu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 02:23:45 -0000 On 2014.08.05 20:19, Paul Kraus wrote: > On Aug 2, 2014, at 17:38, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > >> I'd be careful running ZFS on a machine that lacks ECC memory. Lots of >> people do it, but I'd be worried that ZFS would get itself into a state >> where you couldn't access anything. > > I am startring to see comments like this on a more frequent basis. What is the failure mechanism you expect to run into here? The idea is that a bad block in RAM will get written to disk and ZFS will not know it is bad and then create a checksum based on it and call it good. However, UFS and other filesystems would be just as incapable of detecting and correcting the error. Yes, ECC RAM is always better than non-ECC RAM, but ZFS is still going to be better equipped to detect errors than UFS. Not having ECC RAM is more reason to use ZFS, not less. >> When was the last time anyone heard of a UFS file >> system being so damaged that it couldn't be recovered? > > Anecdotal evidence at best. I have plenty of anecdotal evidence that ZFS never looses data. I don’t claim it as fact. The thing to remember is that ZFS is far more capable of finding data corruption than UFS and it will complain loudly whether it can correct the situation or not. To the person unfamiliar with ZFS, this can make it seem like ZFS causes more problems when in fact ZFS is just finding problems that were already there that another filesystem would miss. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 02:39:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 703857E8 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 02:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from miucha.iecc.com (abusenet-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:1126::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "miucha.iecc.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED1CB2C6D for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 02:39:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29690 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2014 02:39:38 -0000 Received: from miucha.iecc.com (64.57.183.18) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 6 Aug 2014 02:39:38 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=1278.53e19569.k1408; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=MKXDUatAiSGXXvgerQg6EFB8CmlkHMJZ/SxP4GIXp0c=; b=MqwsViGO/IcJogrO96OTytjaXyLgbLQlv3mJHplsWSY4XdYKiV8GlT0xi8HhCU/5dVsVXJYQUsRKitQpP9x2eqM5ElkLuJ6rbGgAEWUSkKHP1GbZo3DTJFvXBDT31xtvPMFxQODYmxzNaTYCq7LgPBP1oc2a0H3UvP3+xrfjGDPwmHWFeAonHEd2v6P3dtgOpa5F+8FhdezOmHUjImT100xbegzwN+ZlAc7+A01R/vNCOxE1Ep76zwS9c/jJyUI3 Date: 6 Aug 2014 02:39:14 -0000 Message-ID: <20140806023914.4727.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NSD & Unbound on same box? In-Reply-To: <20140806005507.GA23913@ymer.thorshammare.org> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 02:39:41 -0000 >> Is it not possible to run both a caching lookup server using Unbound (in >> FreeBSD 10) and an authoritative server using NSD (installed from ports) >> on the same box? Yes, but not on the same port and the same IP. The usual way to do this is to run them both on port 53 on different IPs. I suppose you could run unbound on a different port, but configuring the clients is painful. 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/de6/9k= --b1_9ae2c5cd5b2e313ba2b1e017de702475-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 02:54:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD642A99 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 02:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AADBE2EDA for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 02:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-61.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.61]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s762sUSe010356 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 21:54:30 -0500 Message-ID: <53E19A5D.1000109@hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 22:00:45 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: pkg question .... References: <53E0D2B7.9060402@hiwaay.net> <20140805131910.GA72939@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53E0E281.9030306@hiwaay.net> <20140805211310.GA77763@slackbox.erewhon.home> In-Reply-To: <20140805211310.GA77763@slackbox.erewhon.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 02:54:32 -0000 On 08/05/14 16:13, Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 08:56:17AM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> OK, very well. I just installed XFCE, rxvt, & samba 3.6, When I do an >> 'apropos xfce', is says 'xfce: nothing appropriate' .... I did a >> 'makewhatis -av' & still nothing .... surely there are some man pages ?!?!?! > Odd. If you look at /etc/man.conf, does it contain the following line? > > MANPATH /usr/local/man No .... > > You did run makewhatis as root, right? Yes .... > And there are xfce manpages in /usr/local/man, yes? No .... > > > At the first glance though, XFCE doesn't seem to have all that many manpages; > > :~> find /usr/ports/ -type d -name '*xfce*' -exec grep -H 'man/man.*\.[1-9]\.gz' \{\}/pkg-plist \; > /usr/ports/x11/xfce4-screenshooter-plugin/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-screenshooter.1.gz > /usr/ports/x11/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-popup-whiskermenu.1.gz > /usr/ports/x11/xfce4-terminal/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-terminal.1.gz > /usr/ports/sysutils/xfce4-power-manager/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-power-manager.1.gz > /usr/ports/sysutils/xfce4-power-manager/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-power-manager-settings.1.gz > /usr/ports/textproc/xfce4-dict-plugin/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-dict.1.gz > /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-session/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-session-logout.1.gz > /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-session/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-session.1.gz > /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-desktop/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfdesktop.1.gz > /usr/ports/audio/xfce4-mixer/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-mixer.1.gz > /usr/ports/deskutils/xfce4-notifyd/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-notifyd-config.1.gz > > (Of course this only found those ports that have a pkg-plist.) > > Roland -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 03:25:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B946FB3 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 03:25:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7ABF32229 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 03:25:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D47643CCE1; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 05:25:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s763PMCP003388; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 05:25:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 05:25:22 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: pkg question .... Message-Id: <20140806052522.b6c10548.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53E19A5D.1000109@hiwaay.net> References: <53E0D2B7.9060402@hiwaay.net> <20140805131910.GA72939@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53E0E281.9030306@hiwaay.net> <20140805211310.GA77763@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53E19A5D.1000109@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 03:25:26 -0000 On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 22:00:45 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 08/05/14 16:13, Roland Smith wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 08:56:17AM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> OK, very well. I just installed XFCE, rxvt, & samba 3.6, When I do an > >> 'apropos xfce', is says 'xfce: nothing appropriate' .... I did a > >> 'makewhatis -av' & still nothing .... surely there are some man pages ?!?!?! > > Odd. If you look at /etc/man.conf, does it contain the following line? > > > > MANPATH /usr/local/man > > No .... Maybe OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/local/man instead? However, /usr/local/man is a _default_ path and should be reflected as such in this file. > > And there are xfce manpages in /usr/local/man, yes? > > No .... Maybe they got deselected when building and installing Xfce? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 05:48:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB53A4C4 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 05:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8ACB02222 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 05:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:bennett@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s765mEfm016409 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Wed, 6 Aug 2014 05:48:15 GMT Received: (from bennett@localhost) by sdf.org (8.14.8/8.12.8/Submit) id s765mEQr007372; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 00:48:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201408060548.s765mEQr007372@sdf.org> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 00:48:14 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, wblock@wonkity.com Subject: Re: gvinum raid5 vs. ZFS raidz References: <201408020621.s726LsiA024208@sdf.org> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Paul Kraus X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 05:48:29 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > On Sat, 2 Aug 2014, Scott Bennett wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 12:01:36 -0400 Paul Kraus > > >> ZFS parity is handled slightly differently than for traditional > >> raid-5 (as well as the striping of data / parity blocks). So you > >> cannot just count on loosing 1, 2, or 3 drives worth of space to > >> parity. See Matt Ahren?s Blog entry here > >> http://blog.delphix.com/matt/2014/06/06/zfs-stripe-width/ for > >> (probably) more data on this than you want :-) And here > >> https://docs.google.com/a/delphix.com/spreadsheets/d/1tf4qx1aMJp8Lo_R6gpT689wTjHv6CGVElrPqTA0w_ZY/edit?pli=1#gid=2126998674 > >> is his spreadsheet that relates space lost due to parity to number of > >> drives in raidz vdev and data block size (yes, the amount of space > >> lost to parity caries with data block, not configured filesystem > >> block size!). There is a separate tab for each of RAIDz1, RAIDz2, and > >> RAIDz3. > >> > > Anyway, using lynx(1), it is very hard to make any sense of the > > spreadsheet. > > Even with a graphic browser, let's say that spreadsheet is not a paragon > of clarity. It's not clear what "block size in sectors" means in that > context. Filesystem blocks, presumably, but are sectors physical or > virtual disk blocks, 512 or 4K? What is that number when using a Sounds like that documents the situation no better than the gcache(8) man page regarding the use of gcache(8) with graid3(8). :-( > standard configuration of a disk with 4K sectors and ashift=12? It > could be 1, or 8, or maybe something else. > > As I read it, RAIDZ2 with five disks uses somewhere between 67% and 40% > of the data space for redundancy. The first seems unlikely, but I can't > tell. Better labels or rearrangement would help. > > A second chart with no labels at all follows the first. It has only the > power-of-two values in the "block size in sectors" column. A > restatement of the first one... but it's not clear why. I wish I knew a way to get these drives to admit to the operating system that they really use 4k sectors, rather than wasting kernel time supervising eight 512-byte I/O operations for each real 4096-byte I/O operations. :-{ > > My previous understanding was that RAIDZ2 with five disks would leave > 60% of the capacity for data. That was the way I had understood it, too. I have nowhere found any explanation of his reference to "padding" either. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at sdf.org *xor* bennett at freeshell.org * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 05:56:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB39E5C7 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 05:56:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1F8A23FA for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 05:56:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:bennett@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s765uKc5002335 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Wed, 6 Aug 2014 05:56:21 GMT Received: (from bennett@localhost) by sdf.org (8.14.8/8.12.8/Submit) id s765uKJA026937; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 00:56:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201408060556.s765uKJA026937@sdf.org> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 00:56:20 -0500 To: wblock@wonkity.com, freebsd@qeng-ho.org Subject: Re: gvinum raid5 vs. ZFS raidz References: <201408020621.s726LsiA024208@sdf.org> <53DCDBE8.8060704@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <53DCDBE8.8060704@qeng-ho.org> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: paul@kraus-haus.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 05:56:30 -0000 Arthur Chance wrote: > On 02/08/2014 11:25, Warren Block wrote: > > On Sat, 2 Aug 2014, Scott Bennett wrote: > >> On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 12:01:36 -0400 Paul Kraus > > > >>> ZFS parity is handled slightly differently than for traditional > >>> raid-5 (as well as the striping of data / parity blocks). So you > >>> cannot just count on loosing 1, 2, or 3 drives worth of space to > >>> parity. See Matt Ahren?s Blog entry here > >>> http://blog.delphix.com/matt/2014/06/06/zfs-stripe-width/ for > >>> (probably) more data on this than you want :-) And here > >>> https://docs.google.com/a/delphix.com/spreadsheets/d/1tf4qx1aMJp8Lo_R6gpT689wTjHv6CGVElrPqTA0w_ZY/edit?pli=1#gid=2126998674 > >>> is his spreadsheet that relates space lost due to parity to number of > >>> drives in raidz vdev and data block size (yes, the amount of space > >>> lost to parity caries with data block, not configured filesystem > >>> block size!). There is a separate tab for each of RAIDz1, RAIDz2, and > >>> RAIDz3. > >>> > >> Anyway, using lynx(1), it is very hard to make any sense of the > >> spreadsheet. > > > > Even with a graphic browser, let's say that spreadsheet is not a paragon > > of clarity. It's not clear what "block size in sectors" means in that > > context. Filesystem blocks, presumably, but are sectors physical or > > virtual disk blocks, 512 or 4K? What is that number when using a > > standard configuration of a disk with 4K sectors and ashift=12? It > > could be 1, or 8, or maybe something else. > > > > As I read it, RAIDZ2 with five disks uses somewhere between 67% and 40% > > of the data space for redundancy. The first seems unlikely, but I can't > > tell. Better labels or rearrangement would help. > > > > A second chart with no labels at all follows the first. It has only the > > power-of-two values in the "block size in sectors" column. A > > restatement of the first one... but it's not clear why. > > > > My previous understanding was that RAIDZ2 with five disks would leave > > 60% of the capacity for data. > > Quite right. If you have N disks in a RAIDZx configuration, the fraction > used for data is (N-x)/N and the fraction for parity is x/N. There's > always overhead for the file system bookkeeping of course, but that's > not specific to ZFS or RAID. I wonder if what varies is the amount of space taken up by the checksums. If there's a checksum for each block, then the block size would change the fraction of the space lost to checksums, and the parity for the checksums would thus also change. Enough to matter? Maybe. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at sdf.org *xor* bennett at freeshell.org * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 06:02:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 963A46D3 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 06:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E03824C3 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 06:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:bennett@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7662BtZ014011 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Wed, 6 Aug 2014 06:02:11 GMT Received: (from bennett@localhost) by sdf.org (8.14.8/8.12.8/Submit) id s7662BeH008841; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 01:02:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201408060602.s7662BeH008841@sdf.org> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 01:02:11 -0500 To: kpneal@pobox.com Subject: Re: gvinum raid5 vs. ZFS raidz References: <201408020621.s726LsiA024208@sdf.org> <20140802212259.GA77128@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20140802212259.GA77128@neutralgood.org> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 06:02:20 -0000 kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 01:21:54AM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: > > [Ouch. Trying to edit a response into entire paragraphs on single lines > > is a drag.] > > I use mutt and have it use vi for editing. In my ~/.exrc file I have: > map # !}fmt 72 > > With this I can then, in vi's command mode, hit the # key to reformat > paragraphs. Easy. Thanks for the tip! I'll give it a try. But I still think people should use editors, rather than word processors, to post to mailing lists. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at sdf.org *xor* bennett at freeshell.org * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 06:23:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9177998 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 06:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C91F226B3 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 06:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:bennett@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s766NZIf006855 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Wed, 6 Aug 2014 06:23:36 GMT Received: (from bennett@localhost) by sdf.org (8.14.8/8.12.8/Submit) id s766NZ64028954; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 01:23:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201408060623.s766NZ64028954@sdf.org> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 01:23:35 -0500 To: Daniel Staal Subject: Re: gvinum raid5 vs. ZFS raidz User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 06:23:45 -0000 On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 18:33:38 -0400 Daniel Staal wrote: >--As of August 2, 2014 1:21:54 AM -0500, Scott Bennett is alleged to have >said: > >>>> Does not support migration to any other Does not support migration >>>> RAID levels or their equivalents. between raidz levels, even by >>> >>> Correct. Once you have created a vdev, that vdev must remain the same >>> type. You can add mirrors to a mirror vdev, but you cannot add drives or >>> change raid level to raidz1, raidz2, or raidz3 vdevs. >> >> Too bad. Increasing the raidz level ought to be not much more >> difficult than growing the raidz device by adding more spindles. Doing >> the latter ought to be no more difficult that doing it with gvinum's >> stripe or raid5 devices. Perhaps the ZFS developers will eventually >> implement these capabilities. (A side thought: gstripe and graid3 >> devices ought also to be expandable in this manner, although the resulting >> number of graid3 components would still need to be 2^n + 1.) > >--As for the rest, it is mine. > >There actually is a semi-simple way, even if it's not direct... > >You can 'send' a ZFS filesystem to a backup drive, and then 'receive' it >back to a new pool. It will keep all file and volume level options when >you do that, but the pools can be set up differently. It's not something >you can do in-place, but it's not hard either. Right, and that's why it is actually *not* a way. A "grow" operation, as implemented in gvinum(8), is done in place. > >(Basically, it's a simplified 'backup and restore to new setup', but it is >majorly simplified.) > That would mean having/buying enough more space to be able to do that. Further, one would probably want to set up a new raidzN on those devices to hold all that output, so that one would not risk corrupting/losing one's data during the process. And if one is going to do that, then why copy it back? Growing it in place would eliminate that space requirement, perhaps saving the owner a considerable amount of money. The only additional spindles needed would be the new ones to increase the space or raidz level. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at sdf.org *xor* bennett at freeshell.org * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 06:31:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2123B1D for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 06:31:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relaygateway02.edpnet.net (relaygateway02.edpnet.net [212.71.1.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4873B278D for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 06:31:29 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApYGAAvK4VNNbXB9/2dsb2JhbABZgw1SV4J3yS2HTAGBDBd3hAMBAQQBIzMjBQsLGAkTDgICDwUlN4g6DKtvkHyGDBeOfk4HFoJjNoEcBZUqhmIBlGGDTzsv X-IPAS-Result: ApYGAAvK4VNNbXB9/2dsb2JhbABZgw1SV4J3yS2HTAGBDBd3hAMBAQQBIzMjBQsLGAkTDgICDwUlN4g6DKtvkHyGDBeOfk4HFoJjNoEcBZUqhmIBlGGDTzsv X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,810,1400018400"; d="scan'208";a="258827478" Received: from 77.109.112.125.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net (HELO mordor.lan) ([77.109.112.125]) by relaygateway02.edpnet.net with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 06 Aug 2014 07:59:00 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 08:30:17 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: g.lister@nodeunit.ch Subject: Re: switch serial connection Message-ID: <20140806063017.GE74890@mordor.lan> References: <20140804114628.GA74890@mordor.lan> <53DF8C3B.6090207@sliderule.demon.co.uk> <20140805193441.GB74890@mordor.lan> <6jn6tz.n9vd53.1hge13n-qmf@nodeunit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Dzs2zDY0zgkG72+7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6jn6tz.n9vd53.1hge13n-qmf@nodeunit.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: steve@sliderule.demon.co.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 06:31:30 -0000 --Dzs2zDY0zgkG72+7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 05:12:38AM +0000, g.lister@nodeunit.ch wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Tue Aug 05 2014 21:34:41 GMT+0200 (CEST), Julien Cigar wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 02:35:55PM +0100, Steve Burton wrote: > > > On 04/08/2014 12:46, Julien Cigar wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I have an old switch (Planet GSW-1200S) with a serial port to which= I'm > > > > trying to connect, it seems to work with: > > > > > > > > $> sudo cu -l /dev/ttyU0 -s 38400 > > > > > > > > when I execute this command and power on the switch I have the > > > > following: https://dpaste.de/iEOr > > > > > > > > The problem is that when I press Enter it hangs, it seems that the = key > > > > is never "sent" on the wire .. Any idea what the problem could be .= =2E ? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Julien > > > > > > > perhaps ^J instead of enter? > >=20 > > nop :( doesn't work, the screen just "hangs" .. > > is there a tcpdump-like tool to debug a serial connection? >=20 > Is this the correct speed (baud rate) for the connection? Yes (if I can trust the manual..) > Cheers. > George >=20 > >=20 > > Thanks, > > Julien > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Steve. > >=20 > > --=20 > > Julien Cigar > > Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) > > PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 > > No trees were killed in the creation of this message. > > However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. > > >=20 > --=20 --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --Dzs2zDY0zgkG72+7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAABCgAGBQJT4ct5AAoJEAi2KiTKQR5pM/QQALuascaoqCfaMTLjszzR7fj4 xuHdPWqso0FMKd9TWqAeiS4GAnI5B5IT1dcDfCZBLkCdIeLdjCdqd3IbDkuTlr30 dUrEUk27Vv2CRX/vT9IdW6V2sjt9a7/yyJHlVWmgB+yIKpBniCt1tg4+P2oZ3d1V gtIx1bBykEJdpaICu3Kqhn/2wYnr6dD+kWcCfUCJxeINnE8VReKB/ATx5w/3Ue4K JirTXmt2vKQIT7ZkkJWJruPNLklWejOxo/9Y6kPhhpHvBvO3BJEY/u+0MVBgn+v7 H4zk2iSlW+NzmUCDmy+ZSIibYCAofXcuQXailPS3a7HzsqOC5YuwriwYg1igB8kq uYpgLAd+ND2jOhvyXnpZzAGGGnjJJhykVjOM1QIckoaN7Sf6WK9sa4PkXQwlYt2I MjF0O1x6mopctaKLR1HqVd/ofzkqBsrREb2DXLaye8sYLjigoumGwgILEf1c5UCa D7YvgkUVeZN6SueZ5K24zFZ/v9M1YXf49F5VWg173DGH9GHpcG3DPuWhhPMhZJYO 8k29k0cYCLiayO5UwzVk/TNmOR3yitxjJxnEqGZiFm9B+0WIzLqO2dfQWVGkvavx TrM4ignt1KvObhvVqeQGQiXcy3APxpzYxLIIbXAarymtnNV9bnr0eW5RtdVy26GD 4UCAkrwpx6/y6wUkP34v =09/8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Dzs2zDY0zgkG72+7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 07:32:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 474644F4 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 07:32:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C5872EAE for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 07:32:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:bennett@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s767Wl7C011454 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO) for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 07:32:47 GMT Received: (from bennett@localhost) by sdf.org (8.14.8/8.12.8/Submit) id s767WlPP027322 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 02:32:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201408060732.s767WlPP027322@sdf.org> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 02:32:47 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: some ZFS questions User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 07:32:57 -0000 I have a number of questions that I need answered before I go about setting up any raidz pools. They are in no particular order. 1) What is the recommended method of using geli encryption with ZFS? Does one first create .eli devices and then specify those .eli devices in the zpool(8) command as the devices to include in the pool? Or is there some way to create the pool first and then encrypt the pool? Or maybe "zfs create -V size volname" and then "geli init /dev/zvol/volname" and "newfs /dev/zvol/volname.eli"? 2) How does one start or stop a pool? From what I've read, it appears that ZFS automatically starts all the pools at once. If there is a problem after a crash that causes ZFS to decide to run some sort of repairs without waiting for a go-ahead from a human, ZFS might create still more problems. For example, if a set of identically partitioned drives has a pool made of one partition from each drive and another pool made from a different set of partitions, a rebuild after a failed/corrupted drive might start on both pools at once, thereby hammering all of the drives mercilessly until something else, hardware or software, failed. Having a way to allow one to complete before starting another would be critical in such a configuration. Also, one might need stop a pool in order to switch hardware connections around. I see the zpool(8) command has a "reopen" command, but I don't see a "close" counterpart, nor a description of when a "reopen" might be used. 3) If a raidz2 or raidz3 loses more than one component, does one simply replace and rebuild all of them at once? Or is it necessary to rebuild them serially? In some particular order? 4) At present, I'm running 9-STABLE i386. The box has 4 GB of memory, but the kernel ignores a bit over 1 GB of it. The ZFS documentation recommends building a kernel with "options KVA_PAGES=512" for use with ZFS. What impact would that have on the rest of my system? Would the default, which is in my currently running kernel as modified from GENERIC, suffice for low- intensity use until I can upgrade to amd64? (Low-intensity here means copying the data from other file systems into the pools, followed by occasional reading or writing. I am currently the only human user. The machine is mostly used for number crunching and as a tor relay.) 5) When I upgrade to amd64, the usage would continue to be low- intensity as defined above. Will the 4 GB be enough? I will not be using the "deduplication" feature at all. 6) I have a much fancier computer sitting unused that I intend to put into service fairly soon after getting my current disk and data situation resolved. The drives that would be in use for raidz pools I would like to attach to that system when it is ready. It also has 4 GB of memory, but would start out as an amd64 system and might well have another 2 GB or 4 GB added at some point(s), though not immediately. What problems/pitfalls/precautions would I need to have in mind and be prepared for in order to move those drives from the current system to that newer one? Depending upon the answers to the above, I may well have further questions, but those are the most worrisome to me at the moment. Any information/suggestions would be most welcome. Thanks much in advance for any you can offer. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at sdf.org *xor* bennett at freeshell.org * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 08:49:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7D1532D for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 08:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1lp0144.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 701F1264F for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:e806:9aa:f68a:db81] (2601:2:4780:2fd:e806:9aa:f68a:db81) by BY1PR0301MB0837.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.193.143) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.995.14; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 08:49:43 +0000 Message-ID: <53E1EC21.3050306@my.hennepintech.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 03:49:37 -0500 From: Andrew Berg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subject: Re: some ZFS questions References: <201408060732.s767WlPP027322@sdf.org> In-Reply-To: <201408060732.s767WlPP027322@sdf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [2601:2:4780:2fd:e806:9aa:f68a:db81] X-ClientProxiedBy: BN3PR0301CA0010.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.180.148) To BY1PR0301MB0837.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.193.143) X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID: X-Forefront-PRVS: 02951C14DC X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(51704005)(24454002)(189002)(199002)(86362001)(50466002)(81542001)(21056001)(110136001)(65816999)(107046002)(47776003)(20776003)(64706001)(80316001)(83322001)(107886001)(2351001)(65806001)(81342001)(33656002)(80022001)(79102001)(65956001)(87266999)(50986999)(76482001)(74502001)(59896001)(31966008)(89122001)(74662001)(46102001)(54356999)(88552001)(99396002)(77982001)(76176999)(101416001)(77096002)(42186005)(83506001)(105586002)(23676002)(92726001)(75432001)(4396001)(92566001)(87976001)(83072002)(106356001)(85306004)(3826002); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BY1PR0301MB0837; H:[IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:e806:9aa:f68a:db81]; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; LANG:en; X-OriginatorOrg: my.hennepintech.edu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 08:49:52 -0000 On 2014.08.06 02:32, Scott Bennett wrote: > I have a number of questions that I need answered before I go about > setting up any raidz pools. They are in no particular order. > > 1) What is the recommended method of using geli encryption with > ZFS? > Does one first create .eli devices and then specify those > .eli devices in the zpool(8) command as the devices to include > in the pool? This. > 2) How does one start or stop a pool? That depends on what you mean by 'start' and 'stop'. I am guessing by what you described that you mean 'import' and 'export'. I'm not sure how to prevent automatic import for pools that were imported on the same system and not exported prior to shutdown, but I am sure it can be done. Resilvering does not mercilessly thrash disks; standard reads and writes are given higher priority in the scheduler than resilver and scrub operations. > 3) If a raidz2 or raidz3 loses more than one component, does one > simply replace and rebuild all of them at once? Or is it necessary > to rebuild them serially? In some particular order? AFAIK, replacement of several disks can't be done in a single command, but I don't think you need to wait for a resilver to finish on one before you can replace another. > 5) When I upgrade to amd64, the usage would continue to be low- > intensity as defined above. Will the 4 GB be enough? I will not > be using the "deduplication" feature at all. It will be enough unless you are managing tens of TB of data. I recommend setting an ARC limit of 3GB or so. There is a patch that makes the ARC handle memory pressure more gracefully, but it's not committed yet. I highly recommend moving to 64-bit as soon as possible. > 6) I have a much fancier computer sitting unused that I intend to > put into service fairly soon after getting my current disk and data > situation resolved. The drives that would be in use for raidz > pools I would like to attach to that system when it is ready. It > also has 4 GB of memory, but would start out as an amd64 system and > might well have another 2 GB or 4 GB added at some point(s), though > not immediately. What problems/pitfalls/precautions would I need > to have in mind and be prepared for in order to move those drives > from the current system to that newer one? It should be pretty painless to move pools from system to system. Exporting a pool from the old system is recommended before moving, but not necessary. 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[86.171.147.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ft6sm2351727wic.0.2014.08.06.02.47.53 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Aug 2014 02:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53E1F9C9.2030606@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:47:53 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Determining Video Hardware For "WITH_NEW_XORG" References: <53DF42C2.1000707@gmail.com> <53E08444.2010908@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 09:47:59 -0000 On 05/08/2014 13:18, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 5 Aug 2014, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > >> >> On 04/08/2014 21:18, Warren Block wrote: >>> On Mon, 4 Aug 2014, Jamie Griffin wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> Having looked at dmesg output and the information provided by >>>> FreeBSD devs about supported video hardware for WITH_NEW_XORG >>>> compilation knob, I would like to ask if you can confirm what I >>>> have determined my video hardware is: >>>> >>>> from dmesg: >>>> agp0: Intel Q45 SVGA controller >>>> >>>> from pciconf: >>>> vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x304817aa >>>> chip=0x2e128086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 >>>> vendor = 'Intel Corporation' >>>> device = '4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller' >>>> class = display >>>> subclass = VGA >>>> vgapci1@pci0:0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x304817aa >>>> chip=0x2e138086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 >>>> vendor = 'Intel Corporation' >>>> device = '4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller' >>>> class = display >>>> >>>> So my graphics hardware is codename 'Eaglelake' with device id 2e12. >>> >>> Really, it's easier to tell based on which processor. The Q45 is >>> Core2, I think. >> >> My processor is a "Pentium" with 2 cores. Not i[357], just Pentium. >> It's a fairly low-end machine. > > Right, but the Q45 chipset was part of the Core2 generation. They had > Pentiums and Celerons as part of that family. There are Pentiums and > Celerons from the current generation. Intel is terrible at making > these distinct. I actually have a P45 motherboard that is very > similar. If it is in usable condition, I might be able to test it. > >>> Again, as far as I know, you can use the latest Intel KMS driver. >> >> Thank you for clarifying, it is a bit of a relief to know that. I've >> waited ages before upgrading everything until I could be sure it's >> not going to be in vain and have to revert back to older software. > > Keep in mind that even if the onboard video did not work, a cheap > Radeon card could be added. Any from the 4000-6000 series ought to > work,along with many earlier ones. Just an after-thought: if I point pkg(8) to the with_new_xorg repository will it be able to upgrade packages from that as well as the regular repo? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 10:11:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0883D838 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2BA3214A for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:11:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s76ABhpB014917; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 11:11:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <53E1FF5F.1050500@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 11:11:43 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Bennett , wblock@wonkity.com Subject: Re: gvinum raid5 vs. ZFS raidz References: <201408020621.s726LsiA024208@sdf.org> <53DCDBE8.8060704@qeng-ho.org> <201408060556.s765uKJA026937@sdf.org> In-Reply-To: <201408060556.s765uKJA026937@sdf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: paul@kraus-haus.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:11:55 -0000 On 06/08/2014 06:56, Scott Bennett wrote: > Arthur Chance wrote: >> On 02/08/2014 11:25, Warren Block wrote: >>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2014, Scott Bennett wrote: >>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 12:01:36 -0400 Paul Kraus >>> >>>>> ZFS parity is handled slightly differently than for traditional >>>>> raid-5 (as well as the striping of data / parity blocks). So you >>>>> cannot just count on loosing 1, 2, or 3 drives worth of space to >>>>> parity. See Matt Ahren?s Blog entry here >>>>> http://blog.delphix.com/matt/2014/06/06/zfs-stripe-width/ for >>>>> (probably) more data on this than you want :-) And here >>>>> https://docs.google.com/a/delphix.com/spreadsheets/d/1tf4qx1aMJp8Lo_R6gpT689wTjHv6CGVElrPqTA0w_ZY/edit?pli=1#gid=2126998674 >>>>> is his spreadsheet that relates space lost due to parity to number of >>>>> drives in raidz vdev and data block size (yes, the amount of space >>>>> lost to parity caries with data block, not configured filesystem >>>>> block size!). There is a separate tab for each of RAIDz1, RAIDz2, and >>>>> RAIDz3. >>>>> >>>> Anyway, using lynx(1), it is very hard to make any sense of the >>>> spreadsheet. >>> >>> Even with a graphic browser, let's say that spreadsheet is not a paragon >>> of clarity. It's not clear what "block size in sectors" means in that >>> context. Filesystem blocks, presumably, but are sectors physical or >>> virtual disk blocks, 512 or 4K? What is that number when using a >>> standard configuration of a disk with 4K sectors and ashift=12? It >>> could be 1, or 8, or maybe something else. >>> >>> As I read it, RAIDZ2 with five disks uses somewhere between 67% and 40% >>> of the data space for redundancy. The first seems unlikely, but I can't >>> tell. Better labels or rearrangement would help. >>> >>> A second chart with no labels at all follows the first. It has only the >>> power-of-two values in the "block size in sectors" column. A >>> restatement of the first one... but it's not clear why. >>> >>> My previous understanding was that RAIDZ2 with five disks would leave >>> 60% of the capacity for data. >> >> Quite right. If you have N disks in a RAIDZx configuration, the fraction >> used for data is (N-x)/N and the fraction for parity is x/N. There's >> always overhead for the file system bookkeeping of course, but that's >> not specific to ZFS or RAID. > > I wonder if what varies is the amount of space taken up by the > checksums. If there's a checksum for each block, then the block size > would change the fraction of the space lost to checksums, and the parity > for the checksums would thus also change. Enough to matter? Maybe. I'm not a file system guru, but my (high level) understanding is as follows. Corrections from anyone more knowledgeable welcome. 1. UFS and ZFS both use tree structures to represent files, with the data stored at the leaves and bookkeeping stored in the higher nodes. Therefore the overhead scales as the log of the data size, which is a negligible fraction for any sufficiently large amount of data. 2. UFS doesn't have data checksums, it relies purely on the hardware checksums. (This is the area I'm least certain of.) 3. ZFS keeps its checksums in a Merkel tree (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkle_tree) so the checksums are held in the bookkeeping blocks, not in the data blocks. This simply changes the constant multiplier in front of the logarithm for the overhead. Also, I believe ZFS doesn't use fixed size data blocks, but aggregates writes into blocks of up to 128K. Personally, I don't worry about the overheads of checksumming as the cost of the parity stripe(s) in raidz is dominant. It's a cost well worth paying though - I have a 3 disk raidz1 pool and a disk went bad within 3 months of building it (the manufacturer turned out to be having a few problems at the time) but I didn't lose a byte. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 10:17:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B967C9FE for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:17:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com (mail-wi0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47C0A21AD for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:17:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id hi2so8591729wib.16 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 03:17:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=nz9tdW5alBvdvmFOM9afXzxNKi2gEwyPbKy1EADKnoE=; b=X3DaKZq/mTBwBh0ltgs/bCmRCDpt284Rw120jj408SLTOC5aRGvYwNLZk4tRea5GK4 msNfG2I1GF/q6RqKbuO7VMWd+1YUYTE8UX23uTBqxbpHpC8wwacuvhiU6OwuOd3oP7vQ zHI5E2RyEgSgo4iaLXwysyIXxqVkQ2cdpBcVGPfjYtLYnTS48lACsypDTJn9aiFHHWGB eBuXZtwG4zwNIhTHOzyRe0FyyKQTJdSaQ4J4wkwoxUbnpVsVvxnAoFIV5eHJrAn5WhAC 7RyEGKsTD4ND/YR6k3TAzqZDJ2KDxM04ogzAHsVOH/UAxA2njwNiUBaqzJ2lNwIYVXZC azqQ== X-Received: by 10.195.11.234 with SMTP id el10mr14586214wjd.95.1407320246474; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 03:17:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.219.42 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 03:16:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53E188DD.1030101@corp.ssimicro.com> References: <53E188DD.1030101@corp.ssimicro.com> From: Goran Tepshic Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:16:56 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Best VPS setup To: markham breitbach , anders@jensenwaud.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:17:28 -0000 Sounds good. I just made first, default jail I'm going to clone and noticed that *mod_rewrite* and *mod_proxy* have some issues and are filling up Apache logs. When i disable them Apache starts normally. These are error logs excerpts: *mod_rewrite error:* [rewrite:crit] [pid 43447] (13)Permission denied: AH00666: mod_rewrite: > could not init rewrite_mapr_lock_acquire in child *mod_proxy error:* [proxy:crit] [pid 43447] (13)Permission denied: AH02479: could not init > proxy_mutex in child Could anyone shed some light on this issue? Is it working in your jails? On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:46 AM, markham breitbach < markhamb@corp.ssimicro.com> wrote: > Personally, I prefer the security of jails to apache/mysql shared hosting. > > I setup a system based on our in-house implementation of jails that > allows us to create virtual hosts based on a single "instance" of > apache/php/mysql. > > In essence the instance is mounted into each jail by the host as a > read-only file system. All the configs/logs/etc are setup as symlinks > back to a local config directory that is mounted read/write for each > jail, and the home directory is also RW. This has the advantage that > even if apache/php is exploited it is impossible for the attacker to > mess with the base system, and this also gives me the advantage that I > can update or patch all 20 (in my case is more like 80) jails at the > same time. > > -Markham > > > On 2014-08-05, 7:06 PM, Anders Jensen-Waud wrote: > > Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:09 AM, Goran Tepshic > wrote: > > > >> I'd like to know what would be the most reasonable setup for VPS > hosting 20 > >> domains. > >> Separate jail for each domain with Apache/PHP/MariaDB instance in each > of > >> them (*sounds somewhat overkill*) or just Apache with virtual hosts or > >> maybe a jail with apache and multiple vhosts? > >> > > that depends on the configuration and level of flexibility needed for > each > > web site. > > > > If each web site simply needs the same Apache/PHP/MariaDB version, then I > > would recommend starting out with one Jail with 20 vhosts. > > > > Should there be a need to branch out from the standard setup then you can > > always clone the jail, make the necessary amendments (e.g. MySQL instead > of > > MariaDB or an older/newer PHP version) and easily move the vhosts to that > > Jail. > > > > Starting out with a base Jail means that you get the flexibility > "baked-in" > > for free without additional overhead. > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 10:44:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 488D72C6 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [83.161.133.58]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cloudzeeland.nl", Issuer "PositiveSSL CA 2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08A682557 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (ceto.cloudzeeland.nl [10.10.10.30]) by ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61C347B7944 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:44:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.0.72] (unknown [46.44.159.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A60C747B783A for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:44:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <53E20808.709@webrz.net> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 12:48:40 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: sftp bug? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on ceto.cloudzeeland.nl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:44:31 -0000 If I use sftp and the user has a questionmark in his password, the password is not accepted. Can I bypass this in a configuration file? Thanks, Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 10:51:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 913674BD for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 52FBA264B for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 227083CCB1; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:51:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s76ApeOr006136; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:51:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:51:40 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jos Chrispijn Subject: Re: sftp bug? Message-Id: <20140806125140.f6cf5163.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53E20808.709@webrz.net> References: <53E20808.709@webrz.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:51:44 -0000 On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 12:48:40 +0200, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > If I use sftp and the user has a questionmark in his password, the > password is not accepted. Maybe an issue related to keyboard layout? The '?' is a valid character for a password like everyone else. :-) Question: Is the password supplied with a command line? In this case, it might be that the shell is trying to evaluate this special character: % sftp bob:my?password@ftp.example.com would be such a case. You could try using \? or maybe enclosing the password in 'single' quotes (to tell the shell not to try to interpret _anything_ in this string). > Can I bypass this in a configuration file? The (unsafe) FTP program (ftp) accesses a file called ~/.netrc (see "man ftp" for details), surely sftp can do the same. In this file, passwords can be stored. But keep in mind: Those passwords are in _clear text_ inside this file, so make sure permissions are tight! By completely avoiding passwords and instead relying on keys the problem could probably be cured. So no password has to be stored as plain text in a regular file. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 11:48:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83BF7D9F for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 11:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [83.161.133.58]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cloudzeeland.nl", Issuer "PositiveSSL CA 2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 423372C6C for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 11:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (ceto.cloudzeeland.nl [10.10.10.30]) by ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7CE47B7939; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:48:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.0.72] (unknown [46.44.159.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by ceto.cloudzeeland.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DED6047B7848; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:48:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <53E21725.2010704@webrz.net> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 13:53:09 +0200 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon , Jos Chrispijn Subject: Re: sftp bug? References: <53E20808.709@webrz.net> <20140806125140.f6cf5163.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140806125140.f6cf5163.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on ceto.cloudzeeland.nl Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 11:48:54 -0000 Polytropon: > Maybe an issue related to keyboard layout? The '?' is a > valid character for a password like everyone else. :-) That is exactly what I thought! > Question: Is the password supplied with a command line? I have created a putty session and work in that session from the command prompt. All login's work, except if I use sftp - then password is not recognized as being valid. What I then tried is using a password that doesn't have this '?' and that works perfectly. I do use the sftp commandline, but without the password option (which I try to add after I get asked for it by sftp). > In this case, it might be that the shell is trying to > evaluate this special character: > > % sftp bob:my?password@ftp.example.com > > would be such a case. You could try using \? or maybe > enclosing the password in 'single' quotes (to tell the > shell not to try to interpret _anything_ in this string). What I could imagine is that putty does something with it... BR, Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 13:54:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19776D4 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:54:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from oneyou.mcmli.com (oneyou.mcmli.com [IPv6:2001:470:1d:8da::100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "oneyou.mcmli.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA4D62CFF for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:54:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sentry.24cl.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:558:6017:a2:a860:3073:4c46:6ac9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "sentry.24cl.com", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by oneyou.mcmli.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3hSvTl1NDzz1DNq for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 09:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BigBloat (bigbloat.24cl.home [10.20.1.4]) by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3hSvTk1Pq5z1BwZ for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 09:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <201408060954470000.0052E531@smtp.24cl.home> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 09:54:47 -0400 From: "Mike." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NSD & Unbound on same box? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 13:54:55 -0000 On 8/5/2014 at 7:09 PM freebsd@fongaboo.com wrote: |Is it not possible to run both a caching lookup server using Unbound (in |FreeBSD 10) and an authoritative server using NSD (installed from ports) |on the same box? ============= An excerpt of my rc.conf has the following: ifconfig_em1="inet 10.20.1.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" ifconfig_em1_alias0="inet 10.20.10.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" NSD listens on 10.20.10.1, and unbound listens on 10.20.1.1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 13:58:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 539882A8 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (smtp-int-m.obspm.fr [145.238.187.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.obspm.fr", Issuer "TERENA SSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2BC52D54 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pcjas.obspm.fr (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by smtp-int-m.obspm.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/SIO Observatoire de Paris - 07/2009) with ESMTP id s76DsNMV008258 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:54:24 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:54:23 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: upgrade to 10 for zfs ? Message-ID: <20140806135423.GC98168@pcjas.obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-Miltered: at smtp-int-m.obspm.fr with ID 53E2338F.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 53E2338F.000/145.238.184.233/pcjas.obspm.fr/pcjas.obspm.fr/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 13:58:19 -0000 Hi everybody, I've (in production) a file server running FreeBSD 9.1-p8. The only thing this server does is file-server. Not event through nfs just keep all file. All data file system is using ZFS. I got pretty big (or let's say not small) pool (150To) and the server got 48Go of Ram. Since we using zfs send/received from a another server I got daily a zfs core dump. I failed to find which process make this core-dump but it's definitvly zfs : pid 23943 (zfs), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) pid 70462 (zfs), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) pid 71042 (zfs), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) I check every zfs file system and don't find any corup data. One of the zfs sender is running FreeBSD 10 the other linux/Debian. What's you advise ? Should I upgrade to FreeBSD 10. ? Regards JAS -- Albert SHIH DIO btiment 15 Observatoire de Paris 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex France Tlphone : +33 1 45 07 76 26/+33 6 86 69 95 71 xmpp: jas@obspm.fr Heure local/Local time: mer 6 ao 2014 15:49:33 CEST From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 14:31:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2498AA2F for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:31:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from luigi.brtsvcs.net (luigi.brtsvcs.net [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:1f00::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03734244A for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (c-73-37-112-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net [73.37.112.64]) by luigi.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A2692D4F9F; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 07:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2601:7:2280:38b:baca:3aff:fe83:bd29] (unknown [IPv6:2601:7:2280:38b:baca:3aff:fe83:bd29]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6FA7531F; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 07:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53E23C4E.5090702@bluerosetech.com> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 07:31:42 -0700 From: Darren Pilgrim Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd@fongaboo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NSD & Unbound on same box? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 14:31:51 -0000 On 8/5/2014 4:09 PM, freebsd@fongaboo.com wrote: > Is it not possible to run both a caching lookup server using Unbound (in > FreeBSD 10) and an authoritative server using NSD (installed from ports) > on the same box? > > BIND used to perform both functions as I remember, provided you configured > it as such. Does NSD also do caching? > > We have a /27 so I could configure one or the other to listen on a > different IP, but only if I really have to. If the NSD is serving a public zone, yes, you have to. Disabling recursion is part of BCP for public authoritative nameservers. If it's a private zone, you can configure unbound with a stub zone referring to the private NSD instance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 14:40:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 871CEF4D for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C0FC24E8 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-19-48.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.48]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s76EeDe0027580 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 09:40:13 -0500 Message-ID: <53E23FC4.5000205@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 09:46:28 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: ipfw config .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 14:40:20 -0000 .... I am trying to get ipfw up & running on my newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 workstation .... To that end, I added the following to my rc.conf & typed in 'service ipfw start', & the ssh connection I was/am working over hung/crashed .... rc.conf: firewall_enable="YES" firewall_type="/etc/ipfw.conf workstation" firewall_quiet="NO" firewall_logdeny="YES" firewall_myservices="NFS,SSH,NTP" I'm fairly sure the 1st line needs to be there, guessing about the rest. I can't find out where logged messages are going (some come to the screen, a few to /var/log/messages, anything else: ????). Any clues appreciated :-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 15:07:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0E7EB38 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:07:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x234.google.com (mail-we0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E15727E8 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:07:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f180.google.com with SMTP id w61so2784421wes.39 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 08:07:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=zm0n2yUW01AbYRslJuws2YcrW8zVCbHhSMpO2BB1NHU=; b=mHnDDSvPotWjFiFvmws9SOBuchyrZcsyCPX+XVVOAV4nj1w056OEjuF1DCxIyt53AY DE1+Vd04SPzr6u6pdttirtIzAz3A7e/SYWU9nIsEPgySEVj+JVLNDk/JNg5ip7ebYjFy Rh8nLB5+1lgBa27IMy4pc6bIwOUP/nfhcK7FdgpCJpsQbVWAlxLCENbwtlXRmPaasN2L BQar6RIDFEu0RB+miqIi9WQIFaICBfn2f7mDuXy4b6ujqYlQSxppunfmke3lu3qxiWyI N0lVRRug396hibHMJon2kmFIUcI4RMMLpDsZPMVO3B+RQUSwiLyNFPf3+BqksHYb7WOv ZZXA== X-Received: by 10.180.189.139 with SMTP id gi11mr13658465wic.51.1407337633341; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 08:07:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.57.180 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 08:06:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Frisbie Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 08:06:53 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Error in 3.3. Buffer Overflows To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 15:07:15 -0000 Hello, I believe there's a small error in the document http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/secure-bufferov.html For "realpath(char *path, char resolved_path[])" the description is "May overflow the path buffer". I believe it should read: "May overflow the *resolved_*path buffer" based on the definition of realpath() found here: http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/realpath.html Cheers, -Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 15:41:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E757613 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 029F22CF5 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:41:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-19-48.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.19.48]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s76FfBpp017087 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:41:12 -0500 Message-ID: <53E24E0E.6060502@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:47:26 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: ipfw config .... References: <53E23FC4.5000205@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <53E23FC4.5000205@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 15:41:14 -0000 On 08/06/14 09:46, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: Never mind, I got this fixed, sorry for the noise ..... > > > .... I am trying to get ipfw up & running on my newly minted FreeBSD > 9.3 workstation .... To that end, I added the following to my rc.conf > & typed in 'service ipfw start', & the ssh connection I was/am working > over hung/crashed .... > > rc.conf: > > firewall_enable="YES" > firewall_type="/etc/ipfw.conf workstation" > firewall_quiet="NO" > firewall_logdeny="YES" > firewall_myservices="NFS,SSH,NTP" > > I'm fairly sure the 1st line needs to be there, guessing about the > rest. I can't find out where logged messages are going (some come to > the screen, a few to /var/log/messages, anything else: ????). Any > clues appreciated :-) .... > > -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 15:41:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8D46693 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:41:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alisocreek.buildingonline.net (alisocreek.buildingonline.net [204.109.62.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F9D2CFC for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:41:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by alisocreek.buildingonline.net (Postfix, from userid 58) id 7068BBCA3EF; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 08:41:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on alisocreek.buildingonline.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from Whistler.local (busarow [206.127.77.66]) (Authenticated sender: dan@dpcsys.com) by alisocreek.buildingonline.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 73198BCA3DE for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 08:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53E24C9A.5030903@buildingonline.com> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 09:41:14 -0600 From: Dan Busarow Organization: BuildingOnline.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw config .... References: <53E23FC4.5000205@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <53E23FC4.5000205@hiwaay.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 15:41:22 -0000 firewall_type should be firewall_type="workstation" and you also need to specify the IPs that can access firewall_myservices firewall_allowservices="1.2.3.4" or firewall_allowservices="any" Dan -- Dan Busarow BuildingOnline.com http://www.BuildingOnline.net/ 888-496-6648 ext 218 On 8/6/14, 8:46 AM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > .... I am trying to get ipfw up & running on my newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 > workstation .... To that end, I added the following to my rc.conf & > typed in 'service ipfw start', & the ssh connection I was/am working > over hung/crashed .... > > rc.conf: > > firewall_enable="YES" > firewall_type="/etc/ipfw.conf workstation" > firewall_quiet="NO" > firewall_logdeny="YES" > firewall_myservices="NFS,SSH,NTP" > > I'm fairly sure the 1st line needs to be there, guessing about the rest. > I can't find out where logged messages are going (some come to the > screen, a few to /var/log/messages, anything else: ????). Any clues > appreciated :-) .... > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 15:45:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 120DD7CE for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:45:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.rsle.net (mx1.rsle.net [IPv6:2607:ff40:b0b::4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A316C2D6D for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:45:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CLASSIFIED (CLASSIFIED [IPv6:2607:ff40:b0b::3:1415]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx1.rsle.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s76Fjdgh029118 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 11:45:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@rsle.net) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at antivirus.rsle.net Message-ID: <53E24D9E.6060202@rsle.net> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 11:45:34 -0400 From: "R. Scott Evans" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw config .... References: <53E23FC4.5000205@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <53E23FC4.5000205@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mx1.rsle.net [IPv6:2607:ff40:b0b::2]); Wed, 06 Aug 2014 11:45:40 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 15:45:54 -0000 On 08/06/14 10:46, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > .... I am trying to get ipfw up & running on my newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 > workstation .... To that end, I added the following to my rc.conf & > typed in 'service ipfw start', & the ssh connection I was/am working > over hung/crashed .... > > rc.conf: > > firewall_enable="YES" > firewall_type="/etc/ipfw.conf workstation" > firewall_quiet="NO" > firewall_logdeny="YES" > firewall_myservices="NFS,SSH,NTP" > > I'm fairly sure the 1st line needs to be there, guessing about the rest. > I can't find out where logged messages are going (some come to the > screen, a few to /var/log/messages, anything else: ????). Any clues > appreciated :-) .... Firewall type can only be one value. You have both /etc/ipfw.conf & workstation. If you use /etc/ipfw.conf, then the rest of the options other than firewall_enable are not needed as you will configure your own rules directly in the ipfw.conf file. However if you use type workstation instead, then to enable the myservices, then you also need is firewall_allowservices which tells it what IP network(s) are allowed to access the myservices. You can have more than one IP network listed, but you separate each with a space and not a comma. Likewise, the myservices are separated by spaces, not commas. firewall_enable="YES" firewall_type="workstation" firewall_quiet="NO" firewall_logdeny="YES" firewall_allowservices="192.168.0.0/23 172.16.1.0/24" firewall_myservices="NFS SSH NTP" I don't use the logging to much myself so I may be missing something but I believe the places to look would be /var/log/security and or execute "ipfw show" depending on what info you're looking for. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 15:49:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 104E288A for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8C02E90 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3hSy2L4Jvkzh2 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 11:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 11:49:46 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gvinum raid5 vs. ZFS raidz Message-ID: <6186BEB32D362AFE65F1A798@[192.168.1.50]> In-Reply-To: <201408060623.s766NZ64028954@sdf.org> References: <201408060623.s766NZ64028954@sdf.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 15:49:53 -0000 --As of August 6, 2014 1:23:35 AM -0500, Scott Bennett is alleged to have said: > That would mean having/buying enough more space to be able to do > that. Further, one would probably want to set up a new raidzN on those > devices to hold all that output, so that one would not risk > corrupting/losing one's data during the process. And if one is going to > do that, then why copy it back? Growing it in place would eliminate that > space requirement, perhaps saving the owner a considerable amount of > money. The only additional spindles needed would be the new ones to > increase the space or raidz level. --As for the rest, it is mine. Agreed. ;) But I've seen it mentioned on pages talking about moving to new datasets (there are other reasons - notably the *other* way to grow a zfs pool, by adding vdevs, doesn't spread the IO across all the disks without it: writes go to the *empty* vdev by preference), and you can do things like store the zfs stream at a cloud provider for the duration of the exchange. So I thought it was worth mentioning in this context, even if it wasn't exactly the same thing. Daniel T. 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This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 16:38:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 597F5598 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 16:38:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCF4250A for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 16:38:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F213246B3F; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:38:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s76Gcvn2058864; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:38:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s76GcvsE058860; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:38:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:38:57 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: pkg with 9.1RC3 In-Reply-To: <53DF1CCB.5070507@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <53DF1CCB.5070507@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 06 Aug 2014 12:38:57 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 16:38:59 -0000 On Mon, 4 Aug 2014, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 04/08/2014 01:40, doug@safeport.com wrote: >> Okay, I duplicated my earlier attempt. Last time I ran freebsd-update, >> did a portsnap, and built pkg. This time I skipped all that and just did >> the bootstrap as in the handbook. >> >> built the system: uname -a >> FreeBSD odin.boltsys.com 9.1-RC3 FreeBSD 9.1-RC3 #0 r242324: Tue Oct 30 >> 00:58:57 UTC 2012 >> root@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >> >> My steps: >> boot pkg >> pkg2ng >> pkg install -x perl5 >> Updating repository catalogue >> No valid repository found. >> >> I have attached the output of the above. This was the point I decided I >> had to update to 9.1-release and it all worked. This time around, I can >> tell I do not have pkg installed properly as 'pkg help ' does >> not work. Any help gives 'No manual entry for pkg-' >> >> Clearly something is wrong here, but I do not know what I did. > > Do you have /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf ? What do you have matching I had to build another system to test this. This dir/file was not created on RC3 but is present on 9.1-release > /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/*.conf ? there is no pkg/repos/ dir on either system. Both have identical pkg.conf files. > pkg -vv > > should show at least one repository listed at the end of the output. pgk -vv shows the error. On the RC3 system output ends with: : LOCK_WAIT = 1; LOCK_RETRIES = 5; SQLITE_PROFILE = false; WORKERS_COUNT = 0; On the system updated to 9.1-release: : LOCK_WAIT = 1; LOCK_RETRIES = 5; SQLITE_PROFILE = false; WORKERS_COUNT = 0; Repositories: FreeBSD: { url : "pkg+http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/freebsd:9:x86:64/latest", enabled : yes, mirror_type : "SRV", signature_type : "FINGERPRINTS", fingerprints : "/usr/share/keys/pkg" } From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 16:45:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72EB38BF for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 16:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2159B25E6 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 16:45:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s76Gjbdx072782 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:45:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s76GjaZ4072772; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:45:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:45:36 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Julien Cigar Subject: Re: switch serial connection In-Reply-To: <20140806063017.GE74890@mordor.lan> Message-ID: References: <20140804114628.GA74890@mordor.lan> <53DF8C3B.6090207@sliderule.demon.co.uk> <20140805193441.GB74890@mordor.lan> <6jn6tz.n9vd53.1hge13n-qmf@nodeunit.com> <20140806063017.GE74890@mordor.lan> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:45:38 -0600 (MDT) Cc: steve@sliderule.demon.co.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, g.lister@nodeunit.ch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 16:45:40 -0000 On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, Julien Cigar wrote: > On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 05:12:38AM +0000, g.lister@nodeunit.ch wrote: >>> >>> nop :( doesn't work, the screen just "hangs" .. >>> is there a tcpdump-like tool to debug a serial connection? >> >> Is this the correct speed (baud rate) for the connection? > > Yes (if I can trust the manual..) Make certain both ends of the connection are expecting the same type of handshaking, either hardware or software. The cable may also be suspect, because requirements vary for how DTR/DSR and other signals are wired. The simplest is software handshaking and a three or four-wire cable. That cable might still need pins tied together on one or both ends, depending. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 19:36:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DB14930 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 19:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yk0-x231.google.com (mail-yk0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 056602A4A for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 19:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yk0-f177.google.com with SMTP id 79so2019850ykr.8 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 12:36:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xClct6+X4l+8UttUcn944VoZUpXkxAYBlXoJ6lza/Bg=; b=AcfV/0TEfV9xlBHys+pDzpri7MaGlYZ7B/KHBHK9MaqQ+hjUjLJqQyuPifPkJ6fFiC EeebOLIJE+9dddXMts0lXoN4bWXLdswef6AjwHkJNDSxXK/EQOgzONMqCvq+ulgIGWso dq5Sz7VBDxYNVO3i5rJtjd84jzjBfHapSXGC3kphlK9aACg0bnY5zLKl4vFGSnNefCnw bEvUYrYi2Ei+VvnB709c5PHfi93Z+KnwxQTC+hBY4BKULnAenqNSgBmbtX96LYaIPJ6g YUQdtNW8LK+oPdHPGdeH3UqbxgSMnI+708XMwfqclugWmXYys0CN/V1e1Kp5og0n1Dq8 Geww== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.85.10 with SMTP id t10mr19249617yhe.86.1407353809138; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 12:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.170.132.80 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 20:36:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: mount a local filesystem after zfs but before network is up From: krad To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 19:36:50 -0000 I have a small issue in that I want to mount a tmpfs file system under /var/$PATH at boot via the fstab Normally this is no problem, however the system is zfs and tmpfs is classed as a criticallocal filesystem in rc land and is therefore mounted before the zfs file systems are mounted, before the real multiuser var is mounted $ grep -i require: /etc/rc.d/zfs # REQUIRE: mountcritlocal Is there anyway around this other than hacking up rc, or putting /var on the root filesystem? extra_netfs_types is no use as i need it mounted before the network comes up I feel a lot of rc trawling maybe required tomorrow 8( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 19:48:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42B94E6E for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 19:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yk0-x22e.google.com (mail-yk0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07D992CA1 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 19:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yk0-f174.google.com with SMTP id q9so2023670ykb.33 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 12:48:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=EtfvQPbXjxcWltfox3yyI5f7Nadh1v6ndMgzWZC1cXM=; b=kYZV1hpDq40Hil5cWkfKBrK7he+EtLqPpxpMhzX6lnMRZndEte85OTzUzCLRamedt/ tOzE4fKwSxnsSZ3aQKYBm9jAnBwRL5nlpWANkCzmQm/0Kzxld5S5kL4it09mni57KPrq VRkFGl4HFanc1jxq4eUrtrPpNh2eCd3bxsW80hvKNXmzWplKDbQM4xc33k3rgkD1cCEW zWpZaws3putTpOL7fACbTtyAJ3iNJM1k0KtmB1aUiaEppS9GkjJi5DER/SbDQ+RIbN1F iCXALH+QKqy4OclW/nxdHPimqFv1VY1gLNn2oiCkQybgr6nLQP70UYFF0BjS2PqBC+wE nfzQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.227.230 with SMTP id d96mr20417277yhq.100.1407354508210; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 12:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.170.132.80 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:48:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 20:48:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: mount a local filesystem after zfs but before network is up From: krad To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 19:48:29 -0000 accomplished with a wrapper around dhclient. However it would good to be able to specify a file system that is mounted after zfs but before the network initialization On 6 August 2014 20:36, krad wrote: > I have a small issue in that I want to mount a tmpfs file system under > /var/$PATH at boot via the fstab > > Normally this is no problem, however the system is zfs and tmpfs is > classed as a criticallocal filesystem in rc land and is therefore mounted > before the zfs file systems are mounted, before the real multiuser var is > mounted > > $ grep -i require: /etc/rc.d/zfs > # REQUIRE: mountcritlocal > > Is there anyway around this other than hacking up rc, or putting /var on > the root filesystem? > > extra_netfs_types is no use as i need it mounted before the network comes > up > > I feel a lot of rc trawling maybe required tomorrow 8( > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 20:04:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6546C129 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 20:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from a0i179.smtpcorp.com (a0i179.smtpcorp.com [216.22.15.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 414392F70 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 20:04:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=smtpcorp.com; s=a0_1; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:To:From; bh=8SETYVrXt02gBDFCmVWZkYd9a8BUJZFMbacWLWh4PkY=; b=ZRTAgS2y+RDD3EKY5IezAfUQuTtaKoo9tSK/rbgkyUR//hFQcuH5RFIfNCc5GUIkuzT4A3ou+xKuSqVOlwpf8ZJpUbqeI/ZlamZNtE560NTt6Yp2DNuOXs/+jRXXEVhZZMJjnW66yUbDdlVMlQ7KpV5rV8KswOY2OL/H5ZKHvVQ=; From: Daniel Corbe To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 10Gbit NIC Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 15:58:11 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Smtpcorp-Track: 1bF7L-4gfHRF9-.4oMT738c6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:04:07 -0000 Anyone have good experience with 10Gbit in FreeBSD? Have you been able to forward at line rate? What cards give the best performance? -Daniel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 21:14:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7B696A2 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [198.71.6.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525142807 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:14:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sas1.nber.org (sas1.nber.org [198.71.6.185]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s76LEgUH070397 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:14:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:14:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg To: Daniel Corbe Subject: Re: 10Gbit NIC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (LRH 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20140401 #7726142, check: 20140806 clean Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 21:14:52 -0000 On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, Daniel Corbe wrote: > > Anyone have good experience with 10Gbit in FreeBSD? Have you been able > to forward at line rate? What cards give the best performance? > > -Daniel With 10GBE compatibility has not reached the point where one can worry about performance. We have used HP NC522SFP+ and NC523SFP+ NICs with good result for 10GBE over DAC. They work with any DAC cable. We found that we could transfer files over NFS at line rate (but those are large packets). We don't know if it could pass small packets at line rate. We have used Chelsio N310 for DAC, but PXE booting would not work with non-Chelsio cables, and Chelsio cables are not always available, even from Chelsio. Also, NFS seemed to hang from time to time (in Linux). We did not ever use our Brocade DAC card, we were unable to find a DAC cable that was accepted by the NIC at PXE boot time. We have used Intel X540-T1 with good result for twisted pair. With twisted pair the cable is completely standard. Cat 6A and 7 have both worked for us. PXE booting worked. We have never used FO. These experiences are mostly with Linux, but the HP and Chelsio cards have been used with FreeBSD for several years. In the future I expect to purchase only the Intel X540 cards. Daniel Feenberg > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 21:28:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 298ECDF0 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFBD929CB for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:28:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s76LSbd0068252; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 23:28:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CF1D7123C9; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 23:28:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 23:28:36 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: pkg question .... Message-ID: <20140806212836.GA40161@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! References: <53E0D2B7.9060402@hiwaay.net> <20140805131910.GA72939@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53E0E281.9030306@hiwaay.net> <20140805211310.GA77763@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53E19A5D.1000109@hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53E19A5D.1000109@hiwaay.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 21:28:40 -0000 --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 10:00:45PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 08/05/14 16:13, Roland Smith wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 08:56:17AM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> OK, very well. I just installed XFCE, rxvt, & samba 3.6, When I do an > >> 'apropos xfce', is says 'xfce: nothing appropriate' .... I did a > >> 'makewhatis -av' & still nothing .... surely there are some man pages = ?!?!?! > > Odd. If you look at /etc/man.conf, does it contain the following line? > > > > MANPATH /usr/local/man >=20 > No .... You might want to add that. > > And there are xfce manpages in /usr/local/man, yes? >=20 > No .... I should have been more precise; Is there anything in /usr/local/man/manX, where X is in the range 1-9? Did you install any of the ports mentioned below? > > /usr/ports/x11/xfce4-screenshooter-plugin/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-scre= enshooter.1.gz > > /usr/ports/x11/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-popup-= whiskermenu.1.gz > > /usr/ports/x11/xfce4-terminal/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-terminal.1.gz > > /usr/ports/sysutils/xfce4-power-manager/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-power-= manager.1.gz > > /usr/ports/sysutils/xfce4-power-manager/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-power-= manager-settings.1.gz > > /usr/ports/textproc/xfce4-dict-plugin/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-dict.1.gz > > /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-session/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-session-logout= =2E1.gz > > /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-session/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-session.1.gz > > /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-desktop/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfdesktop.1.gz > > /usr/ports/audio/xfce4-mixer/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-mixer.1.gz > > /usr/ports/deskutils/xfce4-notifyd/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-notifyd-con= fig.1.gz Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT4p4EAAoJEED21dyjijPgCqMP/Avz2zQizBgqEx7FoOGBzeMq oCeQCYfrXl2dOI/RBGyxX/yRWk17o61dfACwm22SmgNpQssav97JPL/jSWuKc9co hXFrsYqvVivsrU2GNfDmreqT9LMo3jn/bh62X6KQAcRbfO3nHEx1HeGpHCnaJK1q 5Idc4kD7a7Ptqt97GNCtuvSDM+KGoiuXtqvYX4CybJqOJnNy6oeZMyq72iAFKofD 1DAjjxYloHme9V77gV+pQn7ycT6ZE+zIBAkp+QrzSOvCnV+ZZmXrYfA/gBYT35Xe aY9g9gAPm16FNmgMx5K8MliEYWljCJ1At2CTJJBQqJrd1BJub0MZtyg9oqci0U3q DxzYPK9kbxk4JUHudi1DgcGmkLmbJi+n7Pigc8qqxM9k7HywPqYr66TDfhztAleP VSoO9+LubucUHqdrNlGDpHk9XKT2yokLcXTadnTmiSXz+kthKXB9znIR9/OAjilN 06AoVtMLLhpzV6aXRRJlokWiV3brExF+0hRIeZYt+hviNZdZkwqloDrUfFWol+xr 45xyFvfNQcN2Ldhi3fI30YCpiy56dfdCIJ3INZp5LV5Niu14qgOKgqfH/cCrdyGQ dv+NQW0qTW5oMYYCOjd2jwiFVIS8rqo3aStF7mz+jEstBb91nm7xXGu2/217OaUw 7BiMyLIBqheVM394c+3t =425F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 21:35:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CF0231E for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 553E82B49 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968C65A8B6BB for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 14:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 468B95A8B6C0; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 14:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 14:58:53 -0700 From: David Benfell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: he.net IPv6 tunnel Message-ID: <20140803215853.GH19791@home.parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KscVNZbUup0vZz0f" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 21:35:35 -0000 --KscVNZbUup0vZz0f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, It turns out my new ISP, the only one available here, doesn't do IPv6 (yet). So I've been trying to get a tunnel from he.net up. Here is the relevant snippet from rc.conf: ipv6_activate_all_interfaces=3D"YES" # IPv6-over-IPv4 tunnel supplied by he.net; ID 258129 ipv6_network_interfaces=3D"em0" ifconfig_em0_ipv6=3D"inet6 accept_rtadv" rtsold_enable=3D"NO" ipv6addrctl_policy=3D"ipv6_prefer" cloned_interfaces=3D"gif0" gifconfig_gif0=3D"50.250.218.161 64.62.134.130" ifconfig_gif0_ipv6=3D"inet6 2001:470:66:119::2 2001:470:66:119::1 prefixlen 128" ipv6_defaultrouter=3D"2001:470:66:119::1" Here is ifconfig -a: em0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3D4019b ether 44:39:c4:3a:d7:ea inet 50.250.218.161 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 50.250.218.175=20 inet6 fe80::4639:c4ff:fe3a:d7ea%em0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1=20 inet 50.250.218.162 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.162=20 inet 50.250.218.163 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.163=20 inet 50.250.218.164 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.164=20 inet 50.250.218.165 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.165=20 inet 50.250.218.166 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.166=20 inet 50.250.218.167 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.167=20 inet 50.250.218.168 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.168=20 inet 50.250.218.169 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.169=20 inet 50.250.218.170 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.170=20 inet 50.250.218.171 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.171=20 inet 50.250.218.172 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.172=20 nd6 options=3D23 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active lo0: flags=3D8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=3D600003 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128=20 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2=20 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000=20 nd6 options=3D21 gif0: flags=3D8011 metric 0 mtu 1280 inet6 2001:470:66:119::2 --> 2001:470:66:119::1 prefixlen 128=20 inet6 fe80::4639:c4ff:fe3a:d7ea%gif0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3=20 nd6 options=3D21 Here is ping6 ipv6.google.com: PING6(56=3D40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:66:119::2 --> 2607:f8b0:4010:801::1003 ping6: sendmsg: Network is down ping6: wrote ipv6.l.google.com 16 chars, ret=3D-1 ping6: sendmsg: Network is down ping6: wrote ipv6.l.google.com 16 chars, ret=3D-1 ping6: sendmsg: Network is down ping6: wrote ipv6.l.google.com 16 chars, ret=3D-1 When I used the example script that he.net supplies, it brought up enough IPv6 that I could ping out, and I could ping the two tunnel endpoints from inside or out. Now, after rebooting, I don't even have that. But I also need the routable addresses (I think I got a /64 block) associated with an interface so they can actually be used. And I don't see anything on how this is supposed to be done. Help? Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --KscVNZbUup0vZz0f Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT3rCdAAoJEBV64x4SNmArV0AP/1f78txJYMbggM/ogw6YiM+H 0zsJrJ0zSbjhnwLP4sItJFiT2r+hOyIVIHQNy3OrS6TvUA743qRqSwwzZlwpOU/v Vfhl/607ykovNHeMGtOOI2T6LmWVvCQptjUiGA5yR6Dx5NCsUf7QOvl24MEj7FBi sZY9Qh30nJWVmF2QpjrUF8aavJWDadYK4wQdj7hTeExlF8OCxHysh3Wfiez7YCex L6bTv0SJJfnttXNrHZTaN25R6wpIapnyeTtSsjcV7OW/o6hLyTtdYQzocUw2JpEL 22+D/sjoUQUgQp8XXmEFlYb+SrdWruAS/1jz2HGuTW573/TvhPrHcujOYk/vJhr4 Pwzyw9Zi19S2akthMDW4HJxtUJr/qSZ0ROUrJt5SKs5y9o8vdwKAu33R/vsbhzWd /TtMXfZ56EPF9+Lf+SSEDGEz/zj5QnAa/r33az61oKBWaOcYALTPoNz2Dwl/aqfH ShkSqm2+3Tjwvb+1UPRnQZI717zX4PrdZxcFSAbzAl6IKDroq+ucvTi1XdU7NThi fICfGiipAHxt3QWvcacZI3ydK8NM9TrCgCBT3ULA7HjsKPbWjiGh9B+DhIIiPEal UeyWByHHnOG2/7cbSXE2XVPYuVoDPlj0iB3lxC12MAY2hud7eTLlKXn0yKhmPiRh 3LwzV9aTC32ZLsAIIOGA =Ewys -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KscVNZbUup0vZz0f-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 21:35:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23891317 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 079732B43 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:35:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057445A8BB4F for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 15:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DBE8A5A8BB39; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 15:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 15:38:04 -0700 From: David Benfell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Touchpad issues Message-ID: <20140802223804.GA42137@home.parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 21:35:35 -0000 --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, This is on my Asus X202E. For me its touchpad (and every other touchpad I have ever encountered) is hypersensitive. The cursor moves erratically. It clicks when it wants to, which is often not when *I* want it to. It seems to regard the area of the buttons as area that should indicate cursor movement. When I put a finger on the surface to try to move the cursor, it some- times mistakes this for a click. I would prefer buttons to be buttons and not anything else, and cursor movement surface to be cursor movement surface and not anything else. I've posted my xorg.conf here: http://gw.gd/fVMO Notice the FingerHigh option on the Synaptics Touchpad section. It is orders of magnitude higher than I have seen in any example I've found on the net. Its behavior is somewhat improved but *still* somewhat erratic. My hunch is that I should be tweaking something else. I have also posted my Xorg.0.log here: http://gw.gd/S0Xt The touchpad is not, apparently, really a Synaptics. It also complains about other things such as finger width settings that I have no idea how to tweak. How should I be fixing this? Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT3WhMAAoJEBV64x4SNmArlJUP/3aY0UnXvjD+e8RPUCNN8oZ6 hH4/yNBprtNsCU93m5aYyCYwoCiOvqEj+tgxgjhyAHSl211XnuWHAZ8t7ssa3O5f lvEUU5+rMdlYhv1GiBCd1PLt8WyDfwB7J9Z7v+2i4NLrcqCutmxDMGFbJpiXokh8 NAd0b4bb6Zeg5gNOz7KWqyRmkAr3rydlYwMy3pqaw9EXO5lmSH3PYB9qlj8mC6In ziW+o0hGlF1WvWE4V2QJ/XcKBlIfuZeeKTWGy2WALd/JqLTENhTt9T9P4H83+MOL FfHFGfoobyr65t3t8mBpy6MVF3ct/cJdhr3iXgwk0kdYKvgwdzl4iEM0EGV7WYq2 yOmR+cBVkY6DNbikR33YecAxNgs+WAqegm+DFvjS5Scx6MqBsZjNwRUEpjeTyQ/x aJAhelhLLv4Gv2fZvKw9LSUfcJKHdNf2K+A+3/HHHnnTrxjVAgMZfvxQ54luL4cj xxuzcfk2F9RbFybhcPY+LBIwC9m5bEJMPcDc3HOAVi5NE7CNzb9M7LTgnbZ2Qxjd rMkf4eqYCzc7ZDZFRBr6Ux4nxq4O5NPDzIxtPS2j/no53QD1/rXlq/9Ng1cIg3Uh EQw+B3baLodlnwWQY40qx7pMOpmDp8hqmCTQSFK7zgsa3ZKIOYY1GL3Vb1Z21OMp mjjr/FeAbk7bCQn58poW =BR6s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 21:35:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2191C316 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 053532B41 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:35:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FBD5A8B6B5; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 11E5D5A8B69F; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 18:29:26 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Polytropon Subject: Re: pkg question .... Message-ID: <20140806012926.GA98597@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <53E0D2B7.9060402@hiwaay.net> <20140805131910.GA72939@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53E0E281.9030306@hiwaay.net> <20140805225107.ccf9944a.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140805225107.ccf9944a.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: "William A. Mahaffey III" , FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 21:35:35 -0000 --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 10:51:07PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 08:56:17 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > When I do an=20 > > 'apropos xfce', is says 'xfce: nothing appropriate' .... I did a=20 > > 'makewhatis -av' & still nothing .... surely there are some man pages ?= !?!?! >=20 > Please understand that "modern" software does not come with > manpages anymore. Documentation, _if_ it actually exists, is > scattered across the web. You'll find it in discussion forums, > blogs, user home pages, and wikis. Sometimes, there's something > in /usr/local/share, but don't bet your money on it... :-) >=20 I think Debian enforces a policy of including man pages in its packages. These would then get incorporated with at least some packages in Debian-based distributions of Linux, like Ubuntu and Mint Linux. So man pages might be among the documents to be found on the web. But I'll hesitate to suggest just how useful they might be for FreeBSD. --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT4YT1AAoJEBV64x4SNmArtsAP/2xC1CU31JIJBN/+V0S5UgHP Bom1VWrRGdenFQG/p+jNgNEcFA3J2GIXJsv55aalGV/B0YTH611W3GcAL5pXFEvF IzSUCK+5Yy80K+4YwJf3D9EqqhQ9MFqfu21DxqbUT9Tmj+1boH2J5fb8VJNGmo73 5+s9e+scTXOrq73AKQ5sQO3ITuD1/nVskzinLElT56pJf4K6JDIp1yBljV2q7Yhs xjKVkeS1ZRvKzTIgCmeNd5kPCivJK5e4iPVuqIgBIlOKYwo+31bMGrlAJAi7K6Is rUoKa8LuyDNQc+4ofLYQX+VYgYHbvfdQWe6HkncXxVKhIyDUFM6AVUOA5I8ao4ER FKfem8LisxOt+ccNtKWB/JMwGpQNohDJVSPe5Pd5koJZbC1PT3ToMsEMKIIH9ric CUeJv1huiS1ZW+P4Lx1DplSgnwBx03/yyV4K/LEMNTn4ZKUAbXqTFMzSF4jsbcRd N01O0qS8N5Hc/xjDNJTqHpG9ArAr4X+hC8y7jDI1dKC5iQhsTXqpik0AlAM3WxsT h4wzSgNUlB97sx8gQmXuD6ERB/n9JAsF14y4c0ukny3qCXCDDzC13BVBqLKu+eWa KzXfnP/cChIjkmbulfdTpgelZP6r6uo7KNOy76EYKzKfDRguwx753BdOOKTRJ0Lu cnznlGwa+i4pvicyg+2u =gKu+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 21:35:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B08B7324 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 833922B4C for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4041C5A8B6C3 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 03:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1F51F5A8B6C0; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 03:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 03:50:20 -0700 From: David Benfell To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: he.net IPv6 tunnel Message-ID: <20140804105020.GD94656@home.parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k4f25fnPtRuIRUb3" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 21:35:35 -0000 --k4f25fnPtRuIRUb3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, It turns out my new ISP, the only one available here, doesn't do IPv6 (yet). So I've been trying to get a tunnel from he.net up. Here is the relevant snippet from rc.conf: ipv6_activate_all_interfaces=3D"YES" # IPv6-over-IPv4 tunnel supplied by he.net; ID 258129 ipv6_network_interfaces=3D"em0" ifconfig_em0_ipv6=3D"inet6 accept_rtadv" rtsold_enable=3D"NO" ipv6addrctl_policy=3D"ipv6_prefer" cloned_interfaces=3D"gif0" gifconfig_gif0=3D"50.250.218.161 64.62.134.130" ifconfig_gif0_ipv6=3D"inet6 2001:470:66:119::2 2001:470:66:119::1 prefixlen 128" ipv6_defaultrouter=3D"2001:470:66:119::1" Here is ifconfig -a: em0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3D4019b ether 44:39:c4:3a:d7:ea inet 50.250.218.161 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 50.250.218.175=20 inet6 fe80::4639:c4ff:fe3a:d7ea%em0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1=20 inet 50.250.218.162 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.162=20 inet 50.250.218.163 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.163=20 inet 50.250.218.164 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.164=20 inet 50.250.218.165 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.165=20 inet 50.250.218.166 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.166=20 inet 50.250.218.167 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.167=20 inet 50.250.218.168 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.168=20 inet 50.250.218.169 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.169=20 inet 50.250.218.170 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.170=20 inet 50.250.218.171 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.171=20 inet 50.250.218.172 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.172=20 nd6 options=3D23 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active lo0: flags=3D8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=3D600003 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128=20 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2=20 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000=20 nd6 options=3D21 gif0: flags=3D8011 metric 0 mtu 1280 inet6 2001:470:66:119::2 --> 2001:470:66:119::1 prefixlen 128=20 inet6 fe80::4639:c4ff:fe3a:d7ea%gif0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3=20 nd6 options=3D21 Here is ping6 ipv6.google.com: PING6(56=3D40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:66:119::2 --> 2607:f8b0:4010:801::1003 ping6: sendmsg: Network is down ping6: wrote ipv6.l.google.com 16 chars, ret=3D-1 ping6: sendmsg: Network is down ping6: wrote ipv6.l.google.com 16 chars, ret=3D-1 ping6: sendmsg: Network is down ping6: wrote ipv6.l.google.com 16 chars, ret=3D-1 When I used the example script that he.net supplies, it brought up enough IPv6 that I could ping out, and I could ping the two tunnel endpoints from inside or out. Now, after rebooting, I don't even have that. But I also need the routable addresses (I think I got a /64 block) associated with an interface so they can actually be used. And I don't see anything on how this is supposed to be done. Help? Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --k4f25fnPtRuIRUb3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT32VrAAoJEBV64x4SNmArB90P/0+b7R5nzQJdKd0t2997PVLR xC46b6vYaRZIifXf91aB0gcraVtNcGUj4GXg09d4yi3arcNrV1L0ZfVOk+HjcW/Y WbPR5R5+aToWfM9zabqn3IxSzpveFVP52BDeeXDHrKhLnBxeRpCteAbZmhzDbbiB v8HUR6A+mdg5wVxxk7sY++b22ImNekfEmHyRaMI2SzQIxUm9s1x9ZFm9Pr6XyQu7 7vAmgb+devKLI9bZyAbBUKSlDSZHTcjfIDYy5sfqi4P8jqL6Q21x6knAfSKpT1bc /1ANyPJnuTbinHMmvgysUnFVQKSzT0xo7wn5xmhEZo7dUPLXyLAEbwu4E1MR4JBc 5QtfRGDVKJyXTLvAlzA17isYC2Ht4+T95NOqxLjwbeLpWthTJSk230Ta8fA41rCw pNx/LbafC4t2AjLl5FIdPvc0MTDNimRjtGmsa7tvRZgDMUwCe82D1FPH81bS0ZyN BIxpdsrlwhOrEdGXLEblNigp8ZObKGyOr8FbSumIfzzxytp3yuqRxR6NXWFs+MBB P6CSBJISH+2snTx2O3tiwAv5408sKim4/5N9e8ss2/xuUDxYdoJGcI4qDG/8Qtrl eplk1o4cDTzGErH36lEe0myeE0ry7vfV+vCsKjSDwIwr3O2lUkdvdqWxhUC3akS5 JsqJFkwMrz59kJWLydPB =jJBr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k4f25fnPtRuIRUb3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 21:59:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF9A4E49 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-f44.google.com (mail-qa0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB95B2F63 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id f12so3095698qad.17 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 14:59:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=dTWKUDcwHIXSq+3MMsrJA9X/20Y/UYi+4Ep/Ph1GSIA=; b=LQaumTOv93r/L1K1RPsDVqNBbhKHyz6uobdMMvVuZlFDzeFtTQHjcqDhIl/e71KNdS TY4XQmYTQE4zjkfeDa90/eAdmx2zL96nTCHvUp7DGmzVqaoQWcjAW9wZphCBH+qmuSeu KHeyrV0naKAwbrreBUxU2PmycYuqTe1hm1bhfeDuZ/dv3dAw51UCTHN5w/AWXX1DvJS4 Fi6Ty9QAxWvLjevU7Tz0iCFeAF44CzrRItDZ2mpaQMxX9Hv2oFxXpzye7oSS3nPaQIwF JZCKDpf31/QlhA1RxXZ4E5gQhJeSMs6YGSToVljLKppyA1EKTLASGWClBguAebdkEVMg mAcA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkREZbeI0vki1gx+1ZY3FSCibLFQYYM45awlGGpcAyc3u21DEOl/2g9YlmVmBD7yqNGqJ6+ X-Received: by 10.224.69.136 with SMTP id z8mr20893789qai.60.1407362349351; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 14:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.127] (c-71-234-255-65.hsd1.vt.comcast.net. [71.234.255.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w3sm3677710qap.37.2014.08.06.14.59.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Aug 2014 14:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Documentation WAS: pkg question .... Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <20140805225107.ccf9944a.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:59:07 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <10FF0A4F-F96E-4A68-BA25-56B57AFD4B2E@kraus-haus.org> References: <53E0D2B7.9060402@hiwaay.net> <20140805131910.GA72939@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53E0E281.9030306@hiwaay.net> <20140805225107.ccf9944a.freebsd@edvax.de> To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: Polytropon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 21:59:11 -0000 On Aug 5, 2014, at 16:51, Polytropon wrote: > Please understand that "modern" software does not come with > manpages anymore. Thank you for putting =93modern=94 in quotes. > Documentation, _if_ it actually exists, is > scattered across the web. And we know how much we can trust what we find =93on the web=94. > You'll find it in discussion forums, > blogs, user home pages, and wikis. Sometimes, there's something > in /usr/local/share, but don't bet your money on it... :-) And that was (and is) one the reasons I have chosen FreeBSD for my = production systems. And I mean that is a very positive way. The = documentation, all of it, not just the man pages, for FreeBSD is very = much supper to what one can find for many other =93modern=94 operating = systems . I originally cut my teeth on SunOS / Solaris (not counting the time I = spent with C/PM, Basic, Cromix, AmigaDOS, =85) where man pages were all = available but NOT part of the core installation, they were included in = the =93Developer=94 tier :-) So I am used to being able to type =93man = =94 and getting useful information (often way too much, = try `man sh` sometime). So I am spoiled in that regard. On concrete example of how the FreeBSD documentation beats the pants off = of Linux (I forget the distro right now). I had a server running FreeBSD = with VirtualBox for virtualization. I had both FreeBSD and Linux VMs. = There was a problem where the boot block on the VM was damaged. By = looking in the FreeBSD Handbook I was able to find the boot process = documented, this enabled me to reconstruct the boot block fairly = painlessly. I had the same issue happen with a Linux and VM and finding = the details of *how* the system boots was like pulling teeth. One = document just referred to another and round and round. The documentation = for GRUB, especially GRUB2, is particularly cryptic *if* something is = going *wrong*. Of course the short answer is always to just =93read the = source code=94, which, as anyone who is not intimately familiar with = that particular piece of code can tell you, is almost useless. In my opinion, documentation is one of the signs of professional, mature = software. Thank you to all the varied FreeBSD people who have = contributed to the stores of official (or at least semi-official) = documentation available. > No, seriously: Most desktop environments don't have manpages. > Few programs have, because nobody reads them. Still there are > some exceptions, like "man opera", "man openoffice", "man xmms" > or "man gmplayer". On the other hand, try "man firefox", "man kde" > or "man grip=94. There can be good reasons to *not* include a FULL man page for a = graphical tool, but at the very least the command line options and = arguments ought to be documented. Even if the man page is not more than = a glorified version of =97help. But putting the FULL = documentation in a man page is really silly (see my earlier reference to = the man page for sh; or bash, or see or awk or =85) There have been = entire *books* written on the use of sed, awk, and even sh (see the = O=92Reilly Nutshell books for great examples), putting *all* you can do = with sed in a man page is overkill. > On one of my older systems where I have XFCE 3 installed, when > I type "man xfce", do you know what happens? A manpage appears! > You can see: Sometimes, someone made a decision not to maintain > manpages anymore and instead concentrate on software features, > look & feal, following the most recent Linux development and > just coding along. This is a _valid_ decision, even though a > minority of 0.01% of the users might not appreciate it. ;-)=20 I understand that developers want to develop and not write manuals. And = since most of this is being done for fun, they concentrate on the fun = parts. I actually think that for many man pages the number of people who = use that function (program, configuration file, etc.) that would like a = good man page is much higher than your 0.01% number. I am thinking = mainly of system admin functions that most end users never even think = about, but let the automated install scripts handle for them. -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 22:26:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C918D789 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 22:26:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-f52.google.com (mail-qg0-f52.google.com [209.85.192.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83D78229D for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 22:26:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id f51so3549044qge.11 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 15:26:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=4IuzPhXMLDQ/7phASBjHA5LhyBsHX18lKx1Pcozlovs=; b=P15OimXIWXdKr+gVemzGxXo23Lqa7lz1xqkcvjS1I64zB1ZTGxttYBiR3mfZIRFUTl sWejG1mMRscZwlJAWESNxQ2du24/pjhnT7XTlh/mDrNop0OmLJDm3tsQCPEzNdspYo3b w8e/Kjw5W/Dd94zpJ58MsDGf9l3saKoDzGNif0FdSRB5jddmQg9Fm66GYXvYKMJ9lWo7 V12r+MfXpTrnkOCV1d2jWqe+cykcuqvlhl5pijj7QRlk/jasMHpvfKW1lh4tI16kKRaE C0ok8MhS3Jt8/T83Ue3CZMqUOvz52vfivW318v7mMmebB3bnwCJR9u5Ou0iQgi2QiGBM zBPA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl5BndKkxnP7mvUVJHnuFp7162ed7nFrLzeKPTVVB6Tyj5g03TXRdfEoGV/zY39q0gnAL1H X-Received: by 10.140.38.17 with SMTP id s17mr7416520qgs.40.1407364014132; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 15:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.127] (c-71-234-255-65.hsd1.vt.comcast.net. [71.234.255.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 63sm2397235qgy.41.2014.08.06.15.26.53 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Aug 2014 15:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: some ZFS questions From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <201408060732.s767WlPP027322@sdf.org> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 18:26:51 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <938511B1-128F-48AF-8D16-2C720B844847@kraus-haus.org> References: <201408060732.s767WlPP027322@sdf.org> To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 22:26:55 -0000 On Aug 6, 2014, at 3:32, Scott Bennett wrote: > 2) How does one start or stop a pool? I assume your question comes from other Volume Managers that need to = have a process (or kernel thread) running to manage the volumes. ZFS = does not really work that way (and at the same time it does). > =46rom what I've read, it > appears that ZFS automatically starts all the pools at once. The system will keep track of which zpools were active on that system = and automatically import them at boot time. ZFS records in the zpool = which host has last imported it to prevent automatically importing the = same pool on multiple systems at once. > If > there is a problem after a crash that causes ZFS to decide to > run some sort of repairs without waiting for a go-ahead from a > human, ZFS might create still more problems. Not likely. The =93repairs=94 you speak of consist of two different = mechanisms. 1. ZFS is transactional, so if a change has been committed to the = transaction log (know as transaction groups of TXG) but not marked as = committed, then at import time the TXG log will be played (re-played) to = insure that the data is as up to date as possible. Because ZFS changes = is Copy on Write and the changes are applied atomically the actual data = is always consistent, hence no need for an fsck-like utility. 2. If a device that makes up a zpool is missing (failed) or otherwise = unavailable *and* a hot spare is available, then ZFS will start = resilvering (the ZFS term for a sync-like operation) the new device to = substitute for the missing (failed) device. The resilver operation is = handled at a lower priority than real I/O so it has little impact to = operations. > For example, if > a set of identically partitioned drives has a pool made of one > partition from each drive and another pool made from a different > set of partitions, Not an advised configuration, but a permitted one (yes, I have done = this). > a rebuild after a failed/corrupted drive might > start on both pools at once, thereby hammering all of the drives > mercilessly until something else, hardware or software, failed. Yup, but just using I/O bandwidth that is not already being used for = production I/O. But, yes, the drives will be seeing the maximum amount = of random I/O that they can sustain. > Having a way to allow one to complete before starting another > would be critical in such a configuration. Avoid such configurations. > Also, one might need > stop a pool in order to switch hardware connections around. zpool export or zpool export -f if necessary. = Yes, you can do this while a resilver is running. It will start again = (depending on specific ZFS code, maybe at the point it left off) when = the zpool is next imported. > I > see the zpool(8) command has a "reopen" command, but I don't see > a "close" counterpart, nor a description of when a "reopen" = might > be used. I think you are looking for the zpool import and zpool export commands = here. >=20 > 3) If a raidz2 or raidz3 loses more than one component, does one > simply replace and rebuild all of them at once? Or is it = necessary > to rebuild them serially? In some particular order? I do not believe that you can replace more than one device at a time, = but if you issue a zpool replace = command while a resilver is running I believe that it will just re-start = the resilver writing data to *both* new devices at once. Note that since = you can have multiple top level vdevs, and each vdev can be a RAIDz, = this is *not* as ludicrous as might seem at first glance. The resilver = is really happening within a top level vdev. No need to replace failed devices in any particular order, unless your = specific configuration depends on it. You might have two failing devices = and one is much worse than the other. I would replace the device with = the more serious errors first, but you may have a reason to choose = otherwise. > 4) At present, I'm running 9-STABLE i386. The box has 4 GB of > memory, but the kernel ignores a bit over 1 GB of it. I would NOT run ZFS on a 32-bit system. > 5) When I upgrade to amd64, the usage would continue to be low- > intensity as defined above. Will the 4 GB be enough? ZFS uses a memory structure called the ARC (Adaptize Reuse Cache) and it = is the key to any kind of performance out of ZFS. It is both a write = cache and a read (and read ahead) cache. If it is not large enough = (compared to the amount of data you will be writing in any 30 second = period of time) then you will be in serious trouble. My rule of thumb is = to not use ZFS on systems (real or virtual) with less than 4GB RAM. I = have been running 9.2 on a systems with 8GB RAM with no issues, but when = I was testing 10.0 with 3GB RAM I occasionally had memory related hangs = (I was testing with iozone before my additional RMA arrived). > I will not > be using the "deduplication" feature at all. The reduplication in ZFS has a very small =93sweet spot=94 and it is = highly recommended that you run the deduce test before turning on deduce = to see the real effect it has (I am not near my systems right now or I = would include the specific zfs command). Also note that 1GB RAM per 1TB = of raw space under deduce is functionally mandatory for a functional = system.=20 > 6) I have a much fancier computer sitting unused that I intend = to > put into service fairly soon after getting my current disk and = data > situation resolved. The drives that would be in use for raidz > pools I would like to attach to that system when it is ready. = It > also has 4 GB of memory, but would start out as an amd64 system = and > might well have another 2 GB or 4 GB added at some point(s), = though > not immediately. What problems/pitfalls/precautions would I = need > to have in mind and be prepared for in order to move those = drives > from the current system to that newer one? You should be able to physically move the drives from *any* system to = *any* other that supports the ZFS version and features that you are = running (using). ZFS was even designed to even handle endien differences = (SPARC to INTEL for example). I would caution you you to EXPORT the = zpool when removing the drives and IMPORT it fresh on the new system. = Technically you *can* do a `zpool import -f`, but from years of reading = horror stories on the ZFS list, I *always* export / import if moving = drives (if I can). -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 22:45:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36964BCA for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 22:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-f49.google.com (mail-qg0-f49.google.com [209.85.192.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E958C2577 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 22:45:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id j107so3451897qga.36 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 15:45:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=KULdwE3c+BtQvNHiFWRoGgoaybugNBJWgr4/Zsp1mJ4=; b=IEsjnh7NJkA2mfWcqS4+w6ufQqlhp1X72cJk350+yBPbM29OJh2sSM6FqDTESejH36 3FvBCJtNRQJgTgsjwui7KG/8p3X5T0HPfhkk2jIWMmaXvP/04ikEsDStdWweHV6Me+vD 1Ytk1VAUtshCd8pgbHbb5HSQ0j2SoAf8gnOOfI2DQdt4P4HCerAPX2/axVWLMK2vVkYf BoPkRdwpe5ZAB8HjlSX0uYov4a2Tn0nl0jL4tafWE4y1oaObHuW026nknVDf7YEFpICH mo6DhYtTl8rIWmpNoh+t7RV1Adi1t073k7G4SjrD+dCM/R3sz25eJf2Yy1TDEiMPz//U IKbg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmt1VS+r8dl4sBwNmyCCXw2hkd+PAZhRDTjJXsIWWb9zK8XcyQeoxZTtdBcUAexEHSbMJxa X-Received: by 10.224.68.65 with SMTP id u1mr21786418qai.9.1407365125341; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 15:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.127] (c-71-234-255-65.hsd1.vt.comcast.net. [71.234.255.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g3sm3863423qaf.35.2014.08.06.15.45.24 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Aug 2014 15:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: upgrade to 10 for zfs ? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <20140806135423.GC98168@pcjas.obspm.fr> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 18:45:23 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20140806135423.GC98168@pcjas.obspm.fr> To: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: Albert Shih X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 22:45:27 -0000 On Aug 6, 2014, at 9:54, Albert Shih wrote: > Since we using zfs send/received from a another server I got daily a = zfs > core dump. I failed to find which process make this core-dump but it's > definitvly zfs :=20 >=20 > pid 23943 (zfs), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) > pid 70462 (zfs), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) > pid 71042 (zfs), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) >=20 > I check every zfs file system and don't find any corup data.=20 >=20 > One of the zfs sender is running FreeBSD 10 the other linux/Debian.=20 Start by halting the zfs send / zfs recv from one of the two senders. = See if you still get the core dump. Since zfs send is based on a = snapshot, just make sure you do not remove the snapshot. Then restart = the first and a stop the second. In other words, determine for sure which of the two zfs send hosts is = sending the stream that is crashing zfs. If the zfs send from the = FreeBSD 10 box is causing the crash, then updating to 10 is likely to = fix the problem. If the cause is the Linux box, then all bets are off as = to whether updating will help. -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 23:18:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 299A4686 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 23:18:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from miucha.iecc.com (abusenet-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:1126::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "miucha.iecc.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB848285B for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 23:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22406 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2014 23:18:05 -0000 Received: from miucha.iecc.com (64.57.183.18) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 6 Aug 2014 23:18:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=342b.53e2b7aa.k1408; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=90au2fowYlz9FCqEt1zxHW8pbwdIHq597LL2j+dKPAc=; b=j8MevYbiPsTPwEtk83dasbsABCWpq9OXERBAPXN3dvGUz3fSX2OXGo8WxxMAEdtMUrtOodalNGBY8k7lYB9YJSQU7+Zm+IZW5HDKjbOhUiU+q2kBp0uVCP8J/GAlxFAgvE2AduVYBlKTrN80fs5l1lyM1OKALooeeRGxSxG+aNSungngkv2BKaeSeUO/88FkKSbYFlQojYDXlfG+BsEJ4mvJTQLw2Ydk9P7YJScDKT3BJA3wPqhTj2alEiKFeTrm Date: 6 Aug 2014 23:17:38 -0000 Message-ID: <20140806231738.13354.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: he.net IPv6 tunnel In-Reply-To: <20140804105020.GD94656@home.parts-unknown.org> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Cc: benfell@parts-unknown.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 23:18:07 -0000 This works for me, routing a /64 from HE through a tunnel onto my LAN. The IPv6 addresses are all from what HE gave me. Note that the /64 prefix on the tunnel addresses on gif0 are different from the one for the addresses on my LAN. ---------------------------------------- # ipv6 V6NETNUM="2001:470:1f07:1126" ipv6_enable="YES" # v6 tunnel gif_interfaces="gif0" gifconfig_gif0="64.57.183.18 209.51.161.14" ipv6_ifconfig_gif0="2001:470:1f06:1126::2 2001:470:1f06:1126::1 prefixlen 128" ipv6_defaultrouter="2001:470:1f06:1126::1" # route on my LAN ipv6_gateway_enable="YES" rtadvd_enable="YES" rtadvd_interfaces="bce0" # Interfaces rtadvd sends RA packets. # all the other addresses ifconfig_bce0_ipv6="inet6 $V6NETNUM::2 prefixlen 64" ------------------------------------------------------ I also have a bunch of aliases on bce0 for local v6 web sites and such, e.g.: ifconfig_bce0_aliases="$ifconfig_bce0_aliases inet6 $V6NETNUM:0:0:4945:4343 prefixlen 64" # an alias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 6 23:30:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79D3BB40 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 23:30:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-f48.google.com (mail-qa0-f48.google.com [209.85.216.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34B5E2A03 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 23:30:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id m5so3275476qaj.35 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 16:30:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=fQ63qkCy7JZfg5U/0cee5KPB3hr1l8v9DB17eHbpnzA=; b=HtCWE72rGe9i2zoG6P2ePB/mu3Nk6BJUG/ZCO6zYrHKf8RyZGVSq3PVb4F6Ur/1wMf sMyJlFxyp0SFenLOwEm0TFnvDgJIYqLFBt7VWS53HnDpeoZiSdPoMfyHGq9+nz7euxtH mtjWFX75uoYzAsX9Ri7/5DHA/zM9ekX9lEe1MycPXilpRXThuOjTUf9L2Wi3flo+6GaO FcftitMmZS8grqsyyK6/cxlSkgDUpeo3GhEtrM98RhpOTMM9yTJ+1qkNJcJQNB0WuAMK Ibsqh35s/lg+xmrtPvcBMVQnGIzRs/aguUPT15x4c3z6zoLfbzDguLeWKHs7aFpm6qO7 Suow== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlB9ZEEMaZB7yz9umPrcJKpH0F3LUXel6n/WJh93JYxWkJrpY7Lp9/EzIt45UfizngxIsTW X-Received: by 10.140.23.37 with SMTP id 34mr8829603qgo.2.1407367853439; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 16:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.127] (c-71-234-255-65.hsd1.vt.comcast.net. [71.234.255.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id x9sm4052264qas.26.2014.08.06.16.30.52 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Aug 2014 16:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: ZFS RAIDz space lost to parity WAS: raid5 vs. ZFS raidz Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <201408060556.s765uKJA026937@sdf.org> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 19:30:50 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <201408020621.s726LsiA024208@sdf.org> <53DCDBE8.8060704@qeng-ho.org> <201408060556.s765uKJA026937@sdf.org> To: Scott Bennett , FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: freebsd@qeng-ho.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 23:30:55 -0000 On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:56, Scott Bennett wrote: > Arthur Chance wrote: >> Quite right. If you have N disks in a RAIDZx configuration, the = fraction=20 >> used for data is (N-x)/N and the fraction for parity is x/N. There's=20= >> always overhead for the file system bookkeeping of course, but that's=20= >> not specific to ZFS or RAID. But ZFS does NOT use fixed width stripes across the devices in the = RAIDz vdev. The stripe size changes based on number of devices and = size of the write operation. ZFS adds parity and padding to make the = data fit among the number of devices.=20 > I wonder if what varies is the amount of space taken up by the > checksums. If there's a checksum for each block, then the block size > would change the fraction of the space lost to checksums, and the = parity > for the checksums would thus also change. Enough to matter? Maybe. Nope, the size of checksum does NOT vary with vdev configuration. Going back to Matt=92s blog again (and I agree that his use of the term = =93n-sector block is confusing). http://blog.delphix.com/matt/2014/06/06/zfs-stripe-width/ Read the blog, don=92t just look at the charts :-) My summary is below = and may help folks to better understand Matt=92s text. According to the blog (and I trust Matt in this regard), RAIDz does NOT = calculate parity per stripe across devices, but on a write by write = basis. Matt linked to a descriptive chart: = http://blog.delphix.com/matt/files/2014/06/RAIDZ.png =85 The chart = assumes a 5 device RAIDz1. Each color is a different write operation = (remember that ZFS is a copy on write, so every write is a new write, no = modifying existing data on disk). The orange write consists of 8 data blocks and 2 parity blocks. Assuming = 512B disk blocks, then you have 8KB of data and 1KB of parity. This is = an 8KB write operation. The yellow write is a 1.5KB write (3 data blocks) and 1 parity. The green is the same as the yellow, just aligned differently. Note that all columns (drives) are NOT involved in all write (and later = read) operations. The brown write is one data block (512B) and one parity. The light purple write is 14 data blocks (7KB) and 4 parity. Quoting directly form Matt: A 11-sector block will use 1 parity + 4 data + 1 parity + 4 data + 1 = parity + 3 data (e.g. the blue block in rows 9-12). Note that if there = are several blocks sharing what would traditionally be thought of as a = single =93stripe=94, there will be multiple parity blocks in the = =93stripe=94. RAID-Z also requires that each allocation be a multiple of (p+1), so = that when it is freed it does not leave a free segment which is too = small to be used (i.e. too small to fit even a single sector of data = plus p parity sectors =96 e.g. the light blue block at left in rows 8-9 = with 1 parity + 2 data + 1 padding). Therefore, RAID-Z requires a bit = more space for parity and overhead than RAID-4/5/6. This leads to the spreadsheet: = https://docs.google.com/a/delphix.com/spreadsheets/d/1tf4qx1aMJp8Lo_R6gpT6= 89wTjHv6CGVElrPqTA0w_ZY/edit?pli=3D1#gid=3D2126998674 The column down the left is filesystem block size in disk sectors (512B = sectors), so it goes from 0.5KB to 128KB filesystem block size = (recordsize is max you set when you tune the zfs dataset, zfs can and = will write less than full records). The column across the top is number of devices in the RAIDz1 vdev (see = other sheets in the workbook for RAIDz2 and RAIDz3). Keep in mind that the left column is also the size of the data you are = writing. If you are using a database with an 8KB recordsize (16 disk = sectors) and you have 6 devices per vdev, then you will loose 20% of the = raw space to parity (plus additional for checksums and metadata). The = chart further down (rows 29 through 37) show the same data but just for = the powers of 2 increments. So, as Matt says, the more devices you add to a RAID vdev, the more net = capacity you will have. At the expense of performance. Quoting Matt=92s = opening: TL;DR: Choose a RAID-Z stripe width based on your IOPS needs and the = amount of space you are willing to devote to parity information. If you = need more IOPS, use fewer disks per stripe. If you need more usable = space, use more disks per stripe. Trying to optimize your RAID-Z stripe = width based on exact numbers is irrelevant in nearly all cases. and his summary at the end: The strongest valid recommendation based on exact fitting of blocks into = stripes is the following: If you are using RAID-Z with 512-byte sector = devices with recordsize=3D4K or 8K and compression=3Doff (but you = probably want compression=3Dlz4): use at least 5 disks with RAIDZ1; use = at least 6 disks with RAIDZ2; and use at least 11 disks with RAIDZ3. Note that you would ONLY use recordsize =3D 4KB or 8KB if you knew that = your workload was ONLY 4 or 8 KB blocks of data (a database). and finally: To summarize: Use RAID-Z. Not too wide. Enable compression. -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 01:27:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF0195D5 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 01:27:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8D6828CB for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 01:27:57 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=gPTxuN2g0USSsEjWAnWTMGIm17jqquEALcjch34yTa0=; b=sVR3kg02DhE7TaNwhFD8Ub8SHdyMnxsoOidnXW2igR5lPM/bTeAlnicflhRIcen6RTXQgho+UzdC88iZ/RHq+DO9sxI0poW3B7ajI0lUx09WPU1VdDyi+T2VxetgaGIAAn/XF/wt0FBNSxj3NxwpzFoUfkU6b4D1C1/LXosahqo=; Received: from [114.121.164.46] (port=44933 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XFCUg-0001p2-GE; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 19:27:51 -0600 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 09:27:45 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Albert Shih Subject: Re: upgrade to 10 for zfs ? Message-ID: <20140807092745.396ba482@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20140806135423.GC98168@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <20140806135423.GC98168@pcjas.obspm.fr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 01:27:57 -0000 Hi, On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:54:23 +0200 Albert Shih wrote: > One of the zfs sender is running FreeBSD 10 the other linux/Debian. I would upgrade for a different reason. I try to have all machines always on the same version so I can use only a single machine for building and then distribution of the binaries. > > What's you advise ? Should I upgrade to FreeBSD 10. ? I would do for a different reason. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 02:52:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7022565 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 02:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 918B921C9 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 02:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-81.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.81]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s772qt5V007092 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:52:56 -0500 Message-ID: <53E2EB7E.4000304@hiwaay.net> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 21:59:10 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: pkg question .... References: <53E0D2B7.9060402@hiwaay.net> <20140805131910.GA72939@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53E0E281.9030306@hiwaay.net> <20140805211310.GA77763@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53E19A5D.1000109@hiwaay.net> <20140806212836.GA40161@slackbox.erewhon.home> In-Reply-To: <20140806212836.GA40161@slackbox.erewhon.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 02:52:58 -0000 On 08/06/14 16:28, Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 10:00:45PM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 08/05/14 16:13, Roland Smith wrote: >>> On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 08:56:17AM -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> OK, very well. I just installed XFCE, rxvt, & samba 3.6, When I do an >>>> 'apropos xfce', is says 'xfce: nothing appropriate' .... I did a >>>> 'makewhatis -av' & still nothing .... surely there are some man pages ?!?!?! >>> Odd. If you look at /etc/man.conf, does it contain the following line? >>> >>> MANPATH /usr/local/man >> No .... > You might want to add that. actually, there is no /etc/man.conf file at all .... > >>> And there are xfce manpages in /usr/local/man, yes? >> No .... > I should have been more precise; Is there anything in /usr/local/man/manX, > where X is in the range 1-9? Yes, just nothing xfce .... > > Did you install any of the ports mentioned below? > >>> /usr/ports/x11/xfce4-screenshooter-plugin/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-screenshooter.1.gz >>> /usr/ports/x11/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-popup-whiskermenu.1.gz >>> /usr/ports/x11/xfce4-terminal/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-terminal.1.gz >>> /usr/ports/sysutils/xfce4-power-manager/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-power-manager.1.gz >>> /usr/ports/sysutils/xfce4-power-manager/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-power-manager-settings.1.gz >>> /usr/ports/textproc/xfce4-dict-plugin/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-dict.1.gz >>> /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-session/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-session-logout.1.gz >>> /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-session/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-session.1.gz >>> /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4-desktop/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfdesktop.1.gz >>> /usr/ports/audio/xfce4-mixer/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-mixer.1.gz >>> /usr/ports/deskutils/xfce4-notifyd/pkg-plist:man/man1/xfce4-notifyd-config.1.gz > Roland terminal, session, desktop .... -- William A. 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Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 04:10:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 601F3EBF for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 04:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4430A2933 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 04:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACDF5A8B69F; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1CB9A5A8B695; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:10:23 -0700 From: David Benfell To: John Levine Subject: Re: he.net IPv6 tunnel Message-ID: <20140807041023.GA1656@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140804105020.GD94656@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140806231738.13354.qmail@joyce.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gKMricLos+KVdGMg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140806231738.13354.qmail@joyce.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 04:10:30 -0000 --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi John, On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 11:17:38PM -0000, John Levine wrote: > This works for me, routing a /64 from HE through a tunnel onto my LAN. > The IPv6 addresses are all from what HE gave me. Note that the /64 > prefix on the tunnel addresses on gif0 are different from the one for > the addresses on my LAN. >=20 > ---------------------------------------- > # ipv6 > V6NETNUM=3D"2001:470:1f07:1126" > ipv6_enable=3D"YES" >=20 > # v6 tunnel > gif_interfaces=3D"gif0" > gifconfig_gif0=3D"64.57.183.18 209.51.161.14" > ipv6_ifconfig_gif0=3D"2001:470:1f06:1126::2 2001:470:1f06:1126::1 prefixl= en 128" > ipv6_defaultrouter=3D"2001:470:1f06:1126::1" >=20 > # route on my LAN > ipv6_gateway_enable=3D"YES" > rtadvd_enable=3D"YES" > rtadvd_interfaces=3D"bce0" # Interfaces rtadvd sends RA packets. >=20 > # all the other addresses > ifconfig_bce0_ipv6=3D"inet6 $V6NETNUM::2 prefixlen 64" > ------------------------------------------------------ >=20 > I also have a bunch of aliases on bce0 for local v6 web sites and such, e= =2Eg.: >=20 > ifconfig_bce0_aliases=3D"$ifconfig_bce0_aliases inet6 $V6NETNUM:0:0:4945:= 4343 prefixlen 64" # an alias Oh, I'm having a hard time with this. I think part of my problem is that the necessary syntax keeps changing, and I'm not sure that the documentation is keeping up to date. Including, importantly, the rc.conf man page. So one thing that seems important to say is that this is FreeBSD 10/STABLE. I see messages that some rc.conf variables above are "obsolete." So I've tried to update them. Here's what I've got, and in terms of results, it isn't as far as I'd gotten. I'm including the IPv4 stuff for reasons which will be apparent: ifconfig_em0=3D"inet 50.250.218.161 netmask 255.255.255.240" ifconfig_em0_alias0=3D"inet 50.250.218.162 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_alias1=3D"inet 50.250.218.163 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_alias2=3D"inet 50.250.218.164 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_alias3=3D"inet 50.250.218.165 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_alias4=3D"inet 50.250.218.166 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_alias5=3D"inet 50.250.218.167 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_alias6=3D"inet 50.250.218.168 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_alias7=3D"inet 50.250.218.169 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_alias8=3D"inet 50.250.218.170 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_alias9=3D"inet 50.250.218.171 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_alias10=3D"inet 50.250.218.172 netmask 255.255.255.255" defaultrouter=3D"50.250.218.174" #ipv6_enable=3D"YES" (apparently deprecated) ipv6_activate_all_interfaces=3D"YES" # IPv6-over-IPv4 tunnel supplied by he.net; ID 258129 V6TUNNUM=3D"2001:470:66:119" V6NETNUM=3D"2001:470:67:119" V4TUNSERVER=3D"64.62.134.130" V4TUNCLIENT=3D"50.250.218.161" V6TUNSERVER=3D"${V6TUNNUM}::1" V6TUNCLIENT=3D"${V6TUNNUM}::2" ipv6_network_interfaces=3D"em0" #gif_interfaces=3D"gif0" (apparently deprecated) cloned_interfaces=3D"gif0" gifconfig_gif0=3D"${V4TUNCLIENT} ${V4TUNSERVER}" ipv6_ifconfig_gif0=3D"inet6 ${V6TUNCLIENT} ${V6TUNSERVER} prefixlen 128" ipv6_defaultrouter=3D"${V6TUNSERVER}" # I don't have a LAN, but this would route on my LAN #ipv6_gateway_enable=3D"YES" #rtadvd_enable=3D"YES" #rtadvd_interfaces=3D"em0" # Interfaces rtadvd sends RA packets. # all the other addresses ifconfig_em0_ipv6=3D"inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::2 prefixlen 64" #ifconfig_em0_alias11=3D"inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::3 prefixlen 64" #ifconfig_em0_alias12=3D"inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::4 prefixlen 64" #ifconfig_em0_alias13=3D"inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::5 prefixlen 64" #ifconfig_em0_alias14=3D"inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::6 prefixlen 64" #ifconfig_em0_alias15=3D"inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::7 prefixlen 64" #ifconfig_em0_alias16=3D"inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::8 prefixlen 64" #ifconfig_em0_alias17=3D"inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::9 prefixlen 64" #ifconfig_em0_alias18=3D"inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::10 prefixlen 64" #ifconfig_em0_alias19=3D"inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::11 prefixlen 64" #ifconfig_em0_alias20=3D"inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::12 prefixlen 64" #ifconfig_em0_alias21=3D"inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::13 prefixlen 64" #ifconfig_em0_alias22=3D"inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::14 prefixlen 64" Here are the examples in the rc.conf man page: ifconfig_ed0_ipv6=3D"inet6 2001:db8:1::1 prefixlen 64" ifconfig_ed0_alias0=3D"inet6 2001:db8:2::1 prefixlen 64" Notice that the original interface address assignment variable has _ipv6 on the end of it, but the alias assignment variables do not. (Smells boobytrap, moves on.) Since the IPv6 alias assignment variable is the same as the IPv4 alias assignment variable, I figure I need to pick up the numbering where the IPv4 aliases left off. Also, it seems weird to me that aliases in IPv4 should be fully netmasked while the prefixlen in IPv6 is the same as the original. But this is all magic to me anyway. The aliases seem to be extremely problematic, which is why I've commented them out. With your suggested syntax, they didn't appear at all. When I tried the documented syntax, I lost the route, and I haven't been able to get it back. Ack!!!! With what's above: home% ifconfig -a em0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3D4019b ether 44:39:c4:3a:d7:ea inet 50.250.218.161 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 50.250.218.175=20 inet6 fe80::4639:c4ff:fe3a:d7ea%em0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1=20 inet6 2001:470:67:119::2 prefixlen 64=20 inet 50.250.218.162 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.162=20 inet 50.250.218.163 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.163=20 inet 50.250.218.164 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.164=20 inet 50.250.218.165 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.165=20 inet 50.250.218.166 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.166=20 inet 50.250.218.167 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.167=20 inet 50.250.218.168 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.168=20 inet 50.250.218.169 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.169=20 inet 50.250.218.170 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.170=20 inet 50.250.218.171 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.171=20 inet 50.250.218.172 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.172=20 nd6 options=3D21 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active lo0: flags=3D8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=3D600003 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128=20 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2=20 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000=20 nd6 options=3D21 gif0: flags=3D8011 metric 0 mtu 1280 inet6 fe80::4639:c4ff:fe3a:d7ea%gif0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3=20 nd6 options=3D21 home% ping6 2001:470:67:119::2 PING6(56=3D40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:67:119::2 --> 2001:470:67:119::2 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::2, icmp_seq=3D0 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.084 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::2, icmp_seq=3D1 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.038 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::2, icmp_seq=3D2 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.043 ms ^C --- 2001:470:67:119::2 ping6 statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev =3D 0.038/0.055/0.084/0.021 ms I have an IPv6 address associated with em0. But I lost the tunnel: home% ping6 2001:470:66:119::2 ping6: UDP connect: No route to host This is also apparent from the ifconfig output. It shows endpoints when it's working. And for that brief moment when I had it working, I was able to ping out. Is the feeding of the preferred (non-deprecated) variables different =66rom the obsolete (deprecated) variables? Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT4vwuAAoJEBV64x4SNmAr36AQAIiovyKV/czoOwoSxGcFHx7Y HkrADSSETvwlmLEVbL+D3InUKwoLToUHIpGQLFStkp+ArDNDF4yhvfX9RN/XLk9z 6nBGq7lJCrP/ocYm9sdNApQWYPMl21AYqY6nYReS9WFNlbvYI28LjSN4BL2K/V1R u5cPPX7g8CUeIZeRf00GJ1RDEEYYWET4hYRGImW/m4ubml+RWvSQHWW7UN31EzvP XjSVIAClTDDomZ9iOzZ6w+efnHlO8qKfjYNv+CILNGGrRvq7llICcaW9kzrgHcww ulrJzkUc0bzA0Eh6nAwqFzW3B9HUMNjVZUw+QAiHuMZm/BqRYnZyewDzuUi32/3G IpDmj4wfMmYuHAQ3fhp2aSepA8SI4RSAWBdhv4NqYttsTMSxlKVHhcKDMxYVALMY 5TFsYISQ7YyEK1nC2o40mi35j69vn2hid8hANPAwcPf4BYZbxgVD6zF8usTn6HvF QSmeMY8vM/87UQYFyejm/HDu/Bi6Tj4oqjs/J0cOoW4u/XOMZ38Fp/9iIlNtTh7d APO9LVcmNfeNNDLTK5HXsZKXUmVs5peYQMiuBuluwOiENZ9jHvF4ik1RLdJln1g1 yy+SGUyvCSFoGY/ISDbAYrI/htW6M44dKE0eDKIBTAMJCHVT0I+1oVsBCELHc0RG dbVBfvxhQWy5T4b7fzNs =AmDH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gKMricLos+KVdGMg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 04:35:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E29C3251 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 04:35:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from miucha.iecc.com (abusenet-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:1126::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "miucha.iecc.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E6BB2C64 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 04:35:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 60486 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2014 04:35:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent; s=ec45.53e3022a.k1408; bh=30X9CNXgxXAVZlepPh2W6IJhwRXe8FvTOduEMPNPXnE=; b=E8C4Vnbnb78STg15GMPmIxhfgNFde75Mihc90q/y5CBkbVW0MNHa+jNn24h9JxO8IEggxwZq+b+1OTnSBJ2So+yA0u+vTS92NR+EgmtrYoPo5dOIG0YYX/aFXw/COzd/GkwHeyGp20L2e6tQMAa/T7KNHJg0I5V4e1Awxx8uh2AhH98/InOySJSrRW4eYuedwDV+l6QTP1C4Hlg2RqwTtiW9PHVRJLgV1s7YPiUTqMx1cQzZU8Nbx+E2Rh771jDB Received: from localhost ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.0/X.509/SHA1) via TCP6; 07 Aug 2014 04:35:54 -0000 Date: 7 Aug 2014 00:35:50 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "David Benfell" Subject: Re: he.net IPv6 tunnel In-Reply-To: <20140807041023.GA1656@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140804105020.GD94656@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140806231738.13354.qmail@joyce.lan> <20140807041023.GA1656@home.parts-unknown.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 04:35:57 -0000 > ifconfig_em0="inet 50.250.218.161 netmask 255.255.255.240" > ifconfig_em0_alias0="inet 50.250.218.162 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_em0_alias1="inet 50.250.218.163 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_em0_alias2="inet 50.250.218.164 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_em0_alias3="inet 50.250.218.165 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_em0_alias4="inet 50.250.218.166 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_em0_alias5="inet 50.250.218.167 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_em0_alias6="inet 50.250.218.168 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_em0_alias7="inet 50.250.218.169 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_em0_alias8="inet 50.250.218.170 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_em0_alias9="inet 50.250.218.171 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_em0_alias10="inet 50.250.218.172 netmask 255.255.255.255" Numbering the aliases is obsolete. Now we glom them into one big string like this: NMASK="netmask 0xffffff00" ifconfig_bce0_aliases="inet6 fe80::2 prefixlen 64" ifconfig_bce0_aliases="$ifconfig_bce0_aliases inet $NETNUM.100 $NMASK" ifconfig_bce0_aliases="$ifconfig_bce0_aliases inet $NETNUM.101 $NMASK" ifconfig_bce0_aliases="$ifconfig_bce0_aliases inet $NETNUM.102 $NMASK" > # all the other addresses > ifconfig_em0_ipv6="inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::2 prefixlen 64" > #ifconfig_em0_alias11="inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::3 prefixlen 64" > #ifconfig_em0_alias12="inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::4 prefixlen 64" If you don't want to route the v6 addresses on your LAN, put them on the loopback lo0 rather than a real interface. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 04:48:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E68613A7 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 04:48:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95A0E2D3A for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 04:48:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s774mUqs050420 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Aug 2014 22:48:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s774mU4n050405; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 22:48:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 22:48:30 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Paul Kraus Subject: Re: Documentation WAS: pkg question .... In-Reply-To: <10FF0A4F-F96E-4A68-BA25-56B57AFD4B2E@kraus-haus.org> Message-ID: References: <53E0D2B7.9060402@hiwaay.net> <20140805131910.GA72939@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53E0E281.9030306@hiwaay.net> <20140805225107.ccf9944a.freebsd@edvax.de> <10FF0A4F-F96E-4A68-BA25-56B57AFD4B2E@kraus-haus.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 06 Aug 2014 22:48:31 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 04:48:42 -0000 On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, Paul Kraus wrote: > I understand that developers want to develop and not write manuals. Documentation should be seen as part of developing. It is not an optional extra. A program without documents is incomplete. Documentation does not have to be perfect, any more than the program itself. But it should answer the basic questions: What is this? What are the requirements? How is it used? In that last part: good, useful examples can make the difference between a successful application and one that is abandoned because people can't figure out how make it work. Finally, FreeBSD developers and users should be aware that the FreeBSD documentation team can provide assistance with creating man pages or DocBook documentation like the Handbook. People interested in that help can post on the freebsd-doc mailing list. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 05:16:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC1096EF for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 05:16:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4636020A4 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 05:16:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AD462510A; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:16:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s775GIKJ003996; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:16:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:16:18 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Subject: Re: Documentation WAS: pkg question .... Message-Id: <20140807071618.11dc548a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <53E0D2B7.9060402@hiwaay.net> <20140805131910.GA72939@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53E0E281.9030306@hiwaay.net> <20140805225107.ccf9944a.freebsd@edvax.de> <10FF0A4F-F96E-4A68-BA25-56B57AFD4B2E@kraus-haus.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 05:16:28 -0000 On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 22:48:30 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, Paul Kraus wrote: > > > I understand that developers want to develop and not write manuals. > > Documentation should be seen as part of developing. It is not an > optional extra. A program without documents is incomplete. Traditional understanding of "development" (traditional term: "programming") contains more than just _coding_. As you said, documentation is an essential part, but so is planning, testing, debugging - nobody would disagree. Today's "modern" understanding of "app dev" probably focuses on coding, marketing, and raising money by the billions. :-) Documentation isn't just manpages. It's also useful (!) comments in the code, and the code also is documentation. It's READMEs, comment headers, and other files that are easy to locate and read. Required skills are: language, reading, writing, thinking. And: No, those are not "common knowledge" anymore. :-( As with all aspects of development, writing documentation costs time, and because "time is money", money. But it's a very good investment in usability, sustainability, and success of software. It's just that you don't get a 100x return the next day. > Documentation does not have to be perfect, any more than the program > itself. But it should answer the basic questions: > > What is this? > What are the requirements? > How is it used? > > In that last part: good, useful examples can make the difference between > a successful application and one that is abandoned because people can't > figure out how make it work. This is actually very important. From my (very individual) point of view as a developer, I can say that I've seen myself "doing it wrong" several times: a script that does something important and clever, but not even a comment header about what it exactly does and how it should be configured and invoked. :-) Regarding manpages: They are a reference manual, not a user's manual covering _all_ parts of the software, which whould make them too huge, especially in regards of GUI programs. But the few aspects you've mentioned should be covered; "man opera" is a good example: it's not an "entire heap of all the documentation", but it states what the program is, what command line options it provides, and how it can be configured. Everything else is found in the online help system. This is better than nothing (compare "man firefox"). Software without documentation is fine as long as it works (and you're not interested in how or why it works). As soon as problems arise, you are happy about any documentation that you can easily access, even if you have to work under the worst imaginable circumstances (no Internet, only text mode access). I don't say this happens all the time, but at least it happens. That's something I can say from my own experience. > Finally, FreeBSD developers and users should be aware that the FreeBSD > documentation team can provide assistance with creating man pages or > DocBook documentation like the Handbook. People interested in that help > can post on the freebsd-doc mailing list. The OS installation itself provides templates for manpages of different sections, as well as the sources for the DocBook kind of documentation which itself is well documented and makes it easy to derive your own documentation. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 05:20:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABACC7B9 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 05:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D6542151 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 05:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9B65A8B6AD; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 22:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2CD855A8B689; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 22:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 22:20:54 -0700 From: David Benfell To: "John R. Levine" Subject: Re: he.net IPv6 tunnel Message-ID: <20140807052054.GA1791@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140804105020.GD94656@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140806231738.13354.qmail@joyce.lan> <20140807041023.GA1656@home.parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 05:20:55 -0000 --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 12:35:50AM -0400, John R. Levine wrote: >=20 > Numbering the aliases is obsolete. Now we glom them into one big string= =20 > like this: >=20 > NMASK=3D"netmask 0xffffff00" > ifconfig_bce0_aliases=3D"inet6 fe80::2 prefixlen 64" > ifconfig_bce0_aliases=3D"$ifconfig_bce0_aliases inet $NETNUM.100 $NMASK" > ifconfig_bce0_aliases=3D"$ifconfig_bce0_aliases inet $NETNUM.101 $NMASK"= =20 > ifconfig_bce0_aliases=3D"$ifconfig_bce0_aliases inet $NETNUM.102 $NMASK" >=20 With a change in the variable name. That's actually a good thing. And now I see it in the man page in the discussion of IPv4 address configuration. >=20 > > # all the other addresses > > ifconfig_em0_ipv6=3D"inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::2 prefixlen 64" > > #ifconfig_em0_alias11=3D"inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::3 prefixlen 64" > > #ifconfig_em0_alias12=3D"inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::4 prefixlen 64" >=20 > If you don't want to route the v6 addresses on your LAN, put them on the= =20 > loopback lo0 rather than a real interface. I think I do want them on a real interface. They need to be addressable from the outside world. Am I misunderstanding aliasing? I just don't have a LAN relative to the server. It has only a cable modem between it and the Big Bad Internet (TM), so I think of it as being on a WAN. There is a wireless router at 50.250.218.173. Nothing behind it now has IPv6 access, so it would actually be really cool to offer that. Can I use the configuration bits you had for bce0 on my em0? And if I do, is there a way to set it up so I'm only being nice to that wireless router rather than the whole Big Bad Internet? Back to the original problem, however. I still have lost my tunnel. Here is the revised configuration from rc.conf: ifconfig_em0=3D"inet 50.250.218.161 netmask 255.255.255.240" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"inet 50.250.218.162 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet 50.250.218.163 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet 50.250.218.164 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet 50.250.218.165 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet 50.250.218.166 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet 50.250.218.167 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet 50.250.218.168 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet 50.250.218.169 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet 50.250.218.170 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet 50.250.218.171 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet 50.250.218.172 netmask 255.255.255.255" defaultrouter=3D"50.250.218.174" #ipv6_enable=3D"YES" (apparently deprecated) ipv6_activate_all_interfaces=3D"YES" # IPv6-over-IPv4 tunnel supplied by he.net; ID 258129 V6TUNNUM=3D"2001:470:66:119" V6NETNUM=3D"2001:470:67:119" V4TUNSERVER=3D"64.62.134.130" V4TUNCLIENT=3D"50.250.218.161" V6TUNSERVER=3D"${V6TUNNUM}::1" V6TUNCLIENT=3D"${V6TUNNUM}::2" ipv6_network_interfaces=3D"em0" #gif_interfaces=3D"gif0" (apparently deprecated) cloned_interfaces=3D"gif0" gifconfig_gif0=3D"${V4TUNCLIENT} ${V4TUNSERVER}" ipv6_ifconfig_gif0=3D"inet6 ${V6TUNCLIENT} ${V6TUNSERVER} prefixlen 128" ipv6_defaultrouter=3D"${V6TUNSERVER}" # I don't have a LAN, but this would route on my LAN #ipv6_gateway_enable=3D"YES" #rtadvd_enable=3D"YES" #rtadvd_interfaces=3D"em0" # Interfaces rtadvd sends RA packets. # all the other addresses ifconfig_em0_ipv6=3D"inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::2 prefixlen 64" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::3 prefixlen 64" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::4 prefixlen 64" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::5 prefixlen 64" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::6 prefixlen 64" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::7 prefixlen 64" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::8 prefixlen 64" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::9 prefixlen 64" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::10 prefixlen 64" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::11 prefixlen 64" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::12 prefixlen 64" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::13 prefixlen 64" ifconfig_em0_aliases=3D"${ifconfig_em0_aliases} inet6 ${V6NETNUM}::14 prefixlen 64" It works except for the tunnel: em0: flags=3D8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3D4019b ether 44:39:c4:3a:d7:ea inet 50.250.218.161 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 50.250.218.175=20 inet6 fe80::4639:c4ff:fe3a:d7ea%em0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1=20 inet6 2001:470:67:119::2 prefixlen 64=20 inet 50.250.218.162 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.162=20 inet 50.250.218.163 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.163=20 inet 50.250.218.164 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.164=20 inet 50.250.218.165 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.165=20 inet 50.250.218.166 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.166=20 inet 50.250.218.167 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.167=20 inet 50.250.218.168 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.168=20 inet 50.250.218.169 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.169=20 inet 50.250.218.170 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.170=20 inet 50.250.218.171 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.171=20 inet 50.250.218.172 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 50.250.218.172=20 inet6 2001:470:67:119::3 prefixlen 64=20 inet6 2001:470:67:119::4 prefixlen 64=20 inet6 2001:470:67:119::5 prefixlen 64=20 inet6 2001:470:67:119::6 prefixlen 64=20 inet6 2001:470:67:119::7 prefixlen 64=20 inet6 2001:470:67:119::8 prefixlen 64=20 inet6 2001:470:67:119::9 prefixlen 64=20 inet6 2001:470:67:119::10 prefixlen 64=20 inet6 2001:470:67:119::11 prefixlen 64=20 inet6 2001:470:67:119::12 prefixlen 64=20 inet6 2001:470:67:119::13 prefixlen 64=20 inet6 2001:470:67:119::14 prefixlen 64=20 nd6 options=3D21 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT ) status: active lo0: flags=3D8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=3D600003 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128=20 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2=20 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000=20 nd6 options=3D21 gif0: flags=3D8011 metric 0 mtu 1280 inet6 fe80::4639:c4ff:fe3a:d7ea%gif0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3=20 nd6 options=3D21 No endpoints are listed for gif0 and while I can ping my original IPv6 address and its aliases.... home# for i in $(gseq 2 14) do ping6 -c 3 "2001:470:67:119::${i}" done PING6(56=3D40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:67:119::2 --> 2001:470:67:119::2 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::2, icmp_seq=3D0 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.048 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::2, icmp_seq=3D1 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.044 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::2, icmp_seq=3D2 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.049 ms --- 2001:470:67:119::2 ping6 statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev =3D 0.044/0.047/0.049/0.002 ms PING6(56=3D40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:67:119::3 --> 2001:470:67:119::3 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::3, icmp_seq=3D0 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.046 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::3, icmp_seq=3D1 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.046 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::3, icmp_seq=3D2 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.048 ms --- 2001:470:67:119::3 ping6 statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev =3D 0.046/0.047/0.048/0.001 ms PING6(56=3D40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:67:119::4 --> 2001:470:67:119::4 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::4, icmp_seq=3D0 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.053 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::4, icmp_seq=3D1 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.059 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::4, icmp_seq=3D2 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.070 ms --- 2001:470:67:119::4 ping6 statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev =3D 0.053/0.061/0.070/0.007 ms PING6(56=3D40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:67:119::5 --> 2001:470:67:119::5 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::5, icmp_seq=3D0 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.069 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::5, icmp_seq=3D1 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.068 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::5, icmp_seq=3D2 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.075 ms --- 2001:470:67:119::5 ping6 statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev =3D 0.068/0.071/0.075/0.003 ms PING6(56=3D40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:67:119::6 --> 2001:470:67:119::6 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::6, icmp_seq=3D0 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.073 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::6, icmp_seq=3D1 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.092 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::6, icmp_seq=3D2 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.078 ms --- 2001:470:67:119::6 ping6 statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev =3D 0.073/0.081/0.092/0.008 ms PING6(56=3D40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:67:119::7 --> 2001:470:67:119::7 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::7, icmp_seq=3D0 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.088 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::7, icmp_seq=3D1 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.068 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::7, icmp_seq=3D2 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.064 ms --- 2001:470:67:119::7 ping6 statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev =3D 0.064/0.073/0.088/0.010 ms PING6(56=3D40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:67:119::8 --> 2001:470:67:119::8 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::8, icmp_seq=3D0 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.072 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::8, icmp_seq=3D1 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.062 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::8, icmp_seq=3D2 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.064 ms --- 2001:470:67:119::8 ping6 statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev =3D 0.062/0.066/0.072/0.004 ms PING6(56=3D40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:67:119::9 --> 2001:470:67:119::9 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::9, icmp_seq=3D0 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.070 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::9, icmp_seq=3D1 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.053 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::9, icmp_seq=3D2 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.058 ms --- 2001:470:67:119::9 ping6 statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev =3D 0.053/0.060/0.070/0.007 ms PING6(56=3D40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:67:119::10 --> 2001:470:67:119::10 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::10, icmp_seq=3D0 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.057 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::10, icmp_seq=3D1 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.070 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::10, icmp_seq=3D2 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.041 ms --- 2001:470:67:119::10 ping6 statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev =3D 0.041/0.056/0.070/0.012 ms PING6(56=3D40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:67:119::11 --> 2001:470:67:119::11 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::11, icmp_seq=3D0 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.042 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::11, icmp_seq=3D1 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.044 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::11, icmp_seq=3D2 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.049 ms --- 2001:470:67:119::11 ping6 statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev =3D 0.042/0.045/0.049/0.003 ms PING6(56=3D40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:67:119::12 --> 2001:470:67:119::12 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::12, icmp_seq=3D0 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.054 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::12, icmp_seq=3D1 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.062 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::12, icmp_seq=3D2 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.051 ms --- 2001:470:67:119::12 ping6 statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev =3D 0.051/0.056/0.062/0.005 ms PING6(56=3D40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:67:119::13 --> 2001:470:67:119::13 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::13, icmp_seq=3D0 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.058 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::13, icmp_seq=3D1 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.057 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::13, icmp_seq=3D2 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.059 ms --- 2001:470:67:119::13 ping6 statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev =3D 0.057/0.058/0.059/0.001 ms PING6(56=3D40+8+8 bytes) 2001:470:67:119::14 --> 2001:470:67:119::14 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::14, icmp_seq=3D0 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.066 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::14, icmp_seq=3D1 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.076 ms 16 bytes from 2001:470:67:119::14, icmp_seq=3D2 hlim=3D64 time=3D0.068 ms --- 2001:470:67:119::14 ping6 statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/std-dev =3D 0.066/0.070/0.076/0.004 ms I cannot ping the tunnel endpoints: home# for i in $(gseq 1 2)=20 do ping6 -c 3 "2001:470:66:119::${i}" done ping6: UDP connect: No route to host ping6: UDP connect: No route to host There's no IPv6 default route, which I suppose makes sense given that gif0 seems not to be up: home# netstat -rn Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire default 50.250.218.174 UGS em0 50.250.218.160/28 link#1 U em0 50.250.218.161 link#1 UHS lo0 50.250.218.162 link#1 UHS lo0 50.250.218.162/32 link#1 U em0 50.250.218.163 link#1 UHS lo0 50.250.218.163/32 link#1 U em0 50.250.218.164 link#1 UHS lo0 50.250.218.164/32 link#1 U em0 50.250.218.165 link#1 UHS lo0 50.250.218.165/32 link#1 U em0 50.250.218.166 link#1 UHS lo0 50.250.218.166/32 link#1 U em0 50.250.218.167 link#1 UHS lo0 50.250.218.167/32 link#1 U em0 50.250.218.168 link#1 UHS lo0 50.250.218.168/32 link#1 U em0 50.250.218.169 link#1 UHS lo0 50.250.218.169/32 link#1 U em0 50.250.218.170 link#1 UHS lo0 50.250.218.170/32 link#1 U em0 50.250.218.171 link#1 UHS lo0 50.250.218.171/32 link#1 U em0 50.250.218.172 link#1 UHS lo0 50.250.218.172/32 link#1 U em0 127.0.0.1 link#2 UH lo0 Internet6: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire ::/96 ::1 UGRS lo0 ::1 link#2 UH lo0 ::ffff:0.0.0.0/96 ::1 UGRS lo0 2001:470:67:119::/64 link#1 U em0 2001:470:67:119::2 link#1 UHS lo0 2001:470:67:119::3 link#1 UHS lo0 2001:470:67:119::4 link#1 UHS lo0 2001:470:67:119::5 link#1 UHS lo0 2001:470:67:119::6 link#1 UHS lo0 2001:470:67:119::7 link#1 UHS lo0 2001:470:67:119::8 link#1 UHS lo0 2001:470:67:119::9 link#1 UHS lo0 2001:470:67:119::10 link#1 UHS lo0 2001:470:67:119::11 link#1 UHS lo0 2001:470:67:119::12 link#1 UHS lo0 2001:470:67:119::13 link#1 UHS lo0 2001:470:67:119::14 link#1 UHS lo0 fe80::/10 ::1 UGRS lo0 fe80::/64 link#1 U em0 fe80::4639:c4ff:fe3a:d7ea link#1 UHS lo0 fe80::/64 link#2 U lo0 fe80::1 link#2 UHS lo0 fe80::/64 link#3 U gif0 fe80::4639:c4ff:fe3a:d7ea link#3 UHS lo0 ff01::/32 fe80::4639:c4ff:fe3a:d7ea U em0 ff01::/32 ::1 U lo0 ff01::/32 fe80::4639:c4ff:fe3a:d7ea U gif0 ff02::/16 ::1 UGRS lo0 ff02::/32 fe80::4639:c4ff:fe3a:d7ea U em0 ff02::/32 ::1 U lo0 ff02::/32 fe80::4639:c4ff:fe3a:d7ea U gif0 What did I miss? Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT4wy2AAoJEBV64x4SNmArUGMP/0237ciqWoW8XKhUKRvOPssd yEH7Pk6UKh9DOG1ESqisDjhUX1+W8/AG2+ezPoq4G2pyOujeARpo/76pAgUZFpzU Aj4kYGc4iIUcM40aN0/38yUQGWuuIqtYpzFBgjSNltTsnLowBlv4eiUVvv7cbDNy isE1P/prGKhuwrXvWZYruvZmkcpEl60tZMhIkzXPx3FvVA+5rKdClZcv9yykTdY1 6rP0yJnz/DXdCEQc3e/13RTxqnT99GiEfrfaagZDC3hdo0IW3cvS3pJ6kXvIYiVY K5HjLjnnf0c/N+cLmJq8eWtYWuKYx/YN//Hd20nCXSPweYwMA0EHlKVqhW9LQHSL xtQ9yYFbQT3qmndNz3PYBjP0eUhfhv/56DFaFnKSBuUq/i/gt44FmNvzDWQNsdGq 9LjLIn3fBc7KQnOODPCoNS14DgG2NUN5IVImxVmlpctUhk5cBoYVHr/UmAD/a7ss RUokwXR1tAo/zj31am+lIx34uX6+Gw403CzOARoUV1MghyQ4x+a+fqjOX8b2Puej RvyfozrtIYg7198DnsY7MRGr7pRRdGrXKmofVzg73zUY81z6eno1pLNz0nXMOrIs 5FHMF8YZIEg0Xt/vh5EUFt4H98vmRyLryB/9vqxw8eRjwg69rpSud6VLFKP8aNvS iULSQlqVArNRaz0DtWEW =3zH9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 05:29:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5942C996 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 05:29:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eina.andersenit.dk (eina.andersenit.dk [87.238.248.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE453218E for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 05:29:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bernholm.dk [109.56.235.174] (127.0.0.1 [127.0.0.1]) by eina.andersenit.dk (Eina) with ASMTP id TNH29134 for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 07:26:34 +0200 Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 07:26:33 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Kenneth Bernholm" Subject: Investigating passwd, group and setuid diffs in status mails Message-ID: <3651ef748410db561b04fe10796b8e65@bernholm.dk> X-Mailer: IceWarp Mailer 10.3.5 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 05:29:04 -0000 I have found a couple of worrying messages in the FreeBSD (10) status = mails and I'm not sure how to interpret the information. Both mails came = in a 03:11 last night where I for the first time had left my workstation = (zork) on. I have other FreeBSD 10 machines (servers) in the same LAN = which are always on and they've reported nothing. Below is the daily run output mail. I'm worried about the passwd and group = diffs as I have not changed any groups or passwords for a while. My = questions is: how do I investigate these diffs properly and are there any = obvious explanations or reasons that I should know about? Removing stale files from /var/preserve: Cleaning out old system = announcements: Removing stale files from /var/rwho: Backup passwd and = group files: zork passwd diffs: 34a35 > = logcheck:(password):915:915::0:0:Logcheck system = account:/var/lib/logcheck:/usr/local/bin/bashzork group diffs: 41a42,43 > = ssmtp:*:916:> logcheck:*:915:Verifying group file syntax: /etc/group is = fine Backing up mail aliases: Disk status: Filesystem Size Used = Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ada0p2 140G 25G 105G 19% / = devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/da0p1 451G = 22G 393G 5% /usbdisk Network interface status: Name Mtu = Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Idrop Opkts Oerrs Coll = Drop em0 1500 90:e2:ba:6a:c0:dc 247366 0 0 = 227852 0 0 0 em0 1500 192.168.1.0 zork = 239442 - - =20 226920 - - - lo0 16384 = 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 lo0 16384 localhost ::1 = 0 - - 0 - - - lo0 16384 = fe80::1%lo0 fe80::1 0 - - 0 - - = - lo0 16384 your-net localhost 0 - - = 0 - - - Local system status: 3:01AM up 22:21, 2 users, load = averages: 0.24, 0.33, 0.25 Mail in local queue: mailq: Mail queue is empty = Mail in submit queue: mailq: Mail queue is empty Security check: = (output mailed separately) Checking for rejected mail hosts: Backing up = pkgng database: -- End of daily output -- My other worry is the daily security run output mail from the same = wokstation (see below). There's a couple of setuid diffs and then a dump = of old log file entries. My question is again: how do I investigate these = diffs and what could cause them? Also - why the dump of the old log = entries? Checking setuid files and devices: zork setuid diffs: --- = /var/log/setuid.today 2014-05-21 03:07:00.000000000 +0200 +++ = /tmp/security.kNUKUHM3 2014-08-07 03:06:29.000000000 +0200 @@ = -32,13 +32,15 @@ 7704735 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 22376 Jan 16 = 23:41:02 2014 /usr/bin/ypchpass 7704735 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel = 22376 Jan 16 23:41:02 2014 /usr/bin/ypchsh 7704601 -r-sr-xr-x 2 root = wheel 8296 Jan 16 23:41:09 2014 /usr/bin/yppasswd -7791699 = -r-xr-sr-x 1 root smmsp 676064 Jan 16 23:41:34 2014 = /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail +7791952 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root smmsp = 676064 Jun 26 06:30:49 2014 /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail 7707857 = -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 32824 Jan 16 23:40:38 2014 = /usr/libexec/ssh-keysign 7707853 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6000 = Jan 16 23:40:05 2014 /usr/libexec/ulog-helper 8268343 -r-sr-xr-x 1 = root=20 wheel 1819872 Apr 15 05:47:39 2014 /usr/local/bin/Xorg +8269540 = -rwxr-sr-x 1 root wheel 18064 Jun 26 06:34:34 2014 = /usr/local/bin/lockfile 8266420 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mail 11392 = Apr 6 12:40:12 2014 /usr/local/bin/mutt_dotlock 8268183 -rwsr-xr-x 1 = root wheel 20072 Apr 15 05:43:54 2014 /usr/local/bin/pkexec = -8268086 -rwsr-x--- 1 root messagebus 280784 Apr 15 05:41:41 2014 = /usr/local/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper +8269542 -rwsr-sr-x 1 root = wheel 98224 Jun 26 06:34:34 2014 /usr/local/bin/procmail +8269658 = -rwsr-x--- 1 root messagebus 270896 Jul 1 12:14:01 2014 = /usr/local/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper 8268207 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root = wheel 12152 Apr 15 05:43:54 2014 = /usr/local/libexec/polkit-agent-helper-1 8268125 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root = polkit 19736 Apr 15 05:42:07 2014 = /usr/local/libexec/polkit-explicit-grant-helper=20 8268126 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root polkit 17712 Apr 15 05:42:07 2014 = /usr/local/libexec/polkit-grant-helper @@ -47,6 +49,7 @@ 8268129 = -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8472 Apr 15 05:42:07 2014 = /usr/local/libexec/polkit-resolve-exe-helper 8268130 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root = polkit 21328 Apr 15 05:42:07 2014 = /usr/local/libexec/polkit-revoke-helper 8268131 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root = polkit 22032 Apr 15 05:42:07 2014 = /usr/local/libexec/polkit-set-default-helper +8269530 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root = ssmtp 32360 Jun 25 10:26:12 2014 /usr/local/sbin/ssmtp 7707669 = -r-sr-sr-x 2 root authpf 24160 Jan 16 23:41:18 2014 = /usr/sbin/authpf 7707669 -r-sr-sr-x 2 root authpf 24160 Jan 16 = 23:41:18 2014 /usr/sbin/authpf-noip 7707607 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root daemon = 55584 Jan 16 23:41:27 2014 /usr/sbin/lpc Checking negative group = permissions: Checking for uids of 0: root 0 toor 0 Checking for passwordless accounts: Checking login.conf permissions: zork = kernel log messages: +++ /tmp/security.GuJvYr8G 2014-08-07 = 03:11:32.000000000 +0200 +FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p6 #0: Tue Jun 24 07:47:37 = UTC 2014 +vgapci0: port 0x2220-0x2227 mem = 0xf0100000-0xf017ffff,0xe0000000-0xefffffff,0xf0000000-0xf00fffff irq 16 = at device 2.0 on pci0 +em0: = port 0x2100-0x211f mem 0xf0180000-0xf019ffff,0xf01a4000-0xf01a4fff irq 19 = at device 25.0 on pci0 +uhci0: port = 0x2120-0x213f irq 20 at device 26.0 on pci0 +uhci1: port 0x2140-0x215f irq 21 at device 26.1 on pci0 +uhci2: = port 0x2160-0x217f irq 22 at device = 26.2 on pci0 +uhci3: port = 0x2180-0x219f irq 20 at device 29.0 on pci0 +uhci4: port 0x21a0-0x21bf irq 21 at = device 29.1 on pci0 +em0: port 0x1100-0x113f mem 0xf0200000-0xf021ffff,0xf0220000-0xf023ffff = irq 20 at device 4.0 on pci7 +em0: Ethernet address: 90:e2:ba:6a:c0:dc = +atapci0: port = 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x21e0-0x21ef,0x21f0-0x21ff irq 18 at = device 31.2 on pci0 +atapci1: port = 0x2238-0x223f,0x2250-0x2253,0x2240-0x2247,0x2254-0x2257,0x2200-0x220f,0x22= 10-0x221f irq 18 at device 31.5 on pci0 +Timecounter "TSC-low" frequency = 1163772879 Hz quality 1000 +ugen3.2: at usbus3 +ugen1.2: = at usbus1 +ukbd0: on usbus1 +ums0: on usbus1 +uhid0: on usbus1 zork login = failures: zork refused connections: Checking for packages with security = vulnerabilities: dbus-1.8.4 firefox-30.0_1,1 nss-3.16 -- End of security = output -- Of course my main concern is if my system has been compromised. All inputs = on the situation are greatly appreciated. Kenneth Bernholm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 05:33:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5408BA60 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 05:33:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1.tre.se (smtp1.tre.se [IPv6:2a02:aa0:0:1c::5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Fortinet", Issuer "Fortinet" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB489223A for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 05:33:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zork (109.56.235.174.mobile.3.dk [109.56.235.174]) by smtp1.tre.se with ESMTP id s775XqM4009924-s775XqM6009924 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:33:54 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:33:52 +0200 From: Kenneth Bernholm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Investigating passwd, group and setuid diffs in status mails Message-ID: <20140807053352.GA20057@zork> References: <3651ef748410db561b04fe10796b8e65@bernholm.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3651ef748410db561b04fe10796b8e65@bernholm.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 05:33:59 -0000 I'm terribly sorry for the formatting failure in my initial mail. Obviously the cut and paste in my webmail client left out the newlines. Here's the data once more (hopefully more readable): The daily run output mail: Removing stale files from /var/preserve: Cleaning out old system announcements: Removing stale files from /var/rwho: Backup passwd and group files: zork passwd diffs: 34a35 > logcheck:(password):915:915::0:0:Logcheck system account:/var/lib/logcheck:/usr/local/bin/bash zork group diffs: 41a42,43 > ssmtp:*:916: > logcheck:*:915: Verifying group file syntax: /etc/group is fine Backing up mail aliases: Disk status: Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ada0p2 140G 25G 105G 19% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/da0p1 451G 22G 393G 5% /usbdisk Network interface status: Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Idrop Opkts Oerrs Coll Drop em0 1500 90:e2:ba:6a:c0:dc 247366 0 0 227852 0 0 0 em0 1500 192.168.1.0 zork 239442 - - 226920 - - - lo0 16384 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 lo0 16384 localhost ::1 0 - - 0 - - - lo0 16384 fe80::1%lo0 fe80::1 0 - - 0 - - - lo0 16384 your-net localhost 0 - - 0 - - - Local system status: 3:01AM up 22:21, 2 users, load averages: 0.24, 0.33, 0.25 Mail in local queue: mailq: Mail queue is empty Mail in submit queue: mailq: Mail queue is empty Security check: (output mailed separately) Checking for rejected mail hosts: Backing up pkgng database: -- End of daily output -- The daily security run output mail: Checking setuid files and devices: zork setuid diffs: --- /var/log/setuid.today 2014-05-21 03:07:00.000000000 +0200 +++ /tmp/security.kNUKUHM3 2014-08-07 03:06:29.000000000 +0200 @@ -32,13 +32,15 @@ 7704735 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 22376 Jan 16 23:41:02 2014 /usr/bin/ypchpass 7704735 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 22376 Jan 16 23:41:02 2014 /usr/bin/ypchsh 7704601 -r-sr-xr-x 2 root wheel 8296 Jan 16 23:41:09 2014 /usr/bin/yppasswd -7791699 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root smmsp 676064 Jan 16 23:41:34 2014 /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail +7791952 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root smmsp 676064 Jun 26 06:30:49 2014 /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail 7707857 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 32824 Jan 16 23:40:38 2014 /usr/libexec/ssh-keysign 7707853 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6000 Jan 16 23:40:05 2014 /usr/libexec/ulog-helper 8268343 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1819872 Apr 15 05:47:39 2014 /usr/local/bin/Xorg +8269540 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root wheel 18064 Jun 26 06:34:34 2014 /usr/local/bin/lockfile 8266420 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mail 11392 Apr 6 12:40:12 2014 /usr/local/bin/mutt_dotlock 8268183 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 20072 Apr 15 05:43:54 2014 /usr/local/bin/pkexec -8268086 -rwsr-x--- 1 root messagebus 280784 Apr 15 05:41:41 2014 /usr/local/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper +8269542 -rwsr-sr-x 1 root wheel 98224 Jun 26 06:34:34 2014 /usr/local/bin/procmail +8269658 -rwsr-x--- 1 root messagebus 270896 Jul 1 12:14:01 2014 /usr/local/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper 8268207 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 12152 Apr 15 05:43:54 2014 /usr/local/libexec/polkit-agent-helper-1 8268125 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root polkit 19736 Apr 15 05:42:07 2014 /usr/local/libexec/polkit-explicit-grant-helper 8268126 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root polkit 17712 Apr 15 05:42:07 2014 /usr/local/libexec/polkit-grant-helper @@ -47,6 +49,7 @@ 8268129 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8472 Apr 15 05:42:07 2014 /usr/local/libexec/polkit-resolve-exe-helper 8268130 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root polkit 21328 Apr 15 05:42:07 2014 /usr/local/libexec/polkit-revoke-helper 8268131 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root polkit 22032 Apr 15 05:42:07 2014 /usr/local/libexec/polkit-set-default-helper +8269530 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root ssmtp 32360 Jun 25 10:26:12 2014 /usr/local/sbin/ssmtp 7707669 -r-sr-sr-x 2 root authpf 24160 Jan 16 23:41:18 2014 /usr/sbin/authpf 7707669 -r-sr-sr-x 2 root authpf 24160 Jan 16 23:41:18 2014 /usr/sbin/authpf-noip 7707607 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root daemon 55584 Jan 16 23:41:27 2014 /usr/sbin/lpc Checking negative group permissions: Checking for uids of 0: root 0 toor 0 Checking for passwordless accounts: Checking login.conf permissions: zork kernel log messages: +++ /tmp/security.GuJvYr8G 2014-08-07 03:11:32.000000000 +0200 +FreeBSD 10.0-RELEASE-p6 #0: Tue Jun 24 07:47:37 UTC 2014 +vgapci0: port 0x2220-0x2227 mem 0xf0100000-0xf017ffff,0xe0000000-0xefffffff,0xf0000000-0xf00fffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 +em0: port 0x2100-0x211f mem 0xf0180000-0xf019ffff,0xf01a4000-0xf01a4fff irq 19 at device 25.0 on pci0 +uhci0: port 0x2120-0x213f irq 20 at device 26.0 on pci0 +uhci1: port 0x2140-0x215f irq 21 at device 26.1 on pci0 +uhci2: port 0x2160-0x217f irq 22 at device 26.2 on pci0 +uhci3: port 0x2180-0x219f irq 20 at device 29.0 on pci0 +uhci4: port 0x21a0-0x21bf irq 21 at device 29.1 on pci0 +em0: port 0x1100-0x113f mem 0xf0200000-0xf021ffff,0xf0220000-0xf023ffff irq 20 at device 4.0 on pci7 +em0: Ethernet address: 90:e2:ba:6a:c0:dc +atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x21e0-0x21ef,0x21f0-0x21ff irq 18 at device 31.2 on pci0 +atapci1: port 0x2238-0x223f,0x2250-0x2253,0x2240-0x2247,0x2254-0x2257,0x2200-0x220f,0x2210-0x221f irq 18 at device 31.5 on pci0 +Timecounter "TSC-low" frequency 1163772879 Hz quality 1000 +ugen3.2: at usbus3 +ugen1.2: at usbus1 +ukbd0: on usbus1 +ums0: on usbus1 +uhid0: on usbus1 zork login failures: zork refused connections: Checking for packages with security vulnerabilities: dbus-1.8.4 firefox-30.0_1,1 nss-3.16 -- End of security output -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 08:16:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C719B35B for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:16:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96DB22279 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:16:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:bennett@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s778G9h9025408 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:16:10 GMT Received: (from bennett@localhost) by sdf.org (8.14.8/8.12.8/Submit) id s778G9ug015988; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 03:16:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201408070816.s778G9ug015988@sdf.org> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 03:16:09 -0500 To: Andrew Berg Subject: Re: some ZFS questions User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 08:16:27 -0000 On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 03:49:37 -0500 Andrew Berg wrote: >On 2014.08.06 02:32, Scott Bennett wrote: >> I have a number of questions that I need answered before I go about >> setting up any raidz pools. They are in no particular order. >> >> 1) What is the recommended method of using geli encryption with >> ZFS? > >> Does one first create .eli devices and then specify those >> .eli devices in the zpool(8) command as the devices to include >> in the pool? >This. Oh. Well, that's doable, if not terribly convenient, but it brings up another question. After a reboot, for example, what does ZFS do while the array of .eli devices is being attached one by one? Does it see the first one attached without the others in sight and decide it has a failed pool? > >> 2) How does one start or stop a pool? >That depends on what you mean by 'start' and 'stop'. I am guessing by what you >described that you mean 'import' and 'export'. I'm not sure how to prevent Oh. Okay. At least there is some way to accomplish the same thing. >automatic import for pools that were imported on the same system and not >exported prior to shutdown, but I am sure it can be done. Resilvering does not Maybe someone else will say how it can be done. >mercilessly thrash disks; standard reads and writes are given higher priority >in the scheduler than resilver and scrub operations. If two pools use different partitions on a drive and both pools are rebuilding those partitions at the same time, then how could ZFS *not* be hammering the drive? The access arm would be doing almost nothing but endless series of long seeks back and forth between the two partitions involved. When you're talking about hundreds of gigabytes to be written to each partition, it could take months or even years to complete, during which time something else is almost certain to fail and halt the rebuilds. > >> 3) If a raidz2 or raidz3 loses more than one component, does one >> simply replace and rebuild all of them at once? Or is it necessary >> to rebuild them serially? In some particular order? >AFAIK, replacement of several disks can't be done in a single command, but I >don't think you need to wait for a resilver to finish on one before you can >replace another. That looks good. What happens if a "zpool replace failingdrive newdrive" is running when the failingdrive actually fails completely? > >> 5) When I upgrade to amd64, the usage would continue to be low- >> intensity as defined above. Will the 4 GB be enough? I will not >> be using the "deduplication" feature at all. >It will be enough unless you are managing tens of TB of data. I recommend >setting an ARC limit of 3GB or so. There is a patch that makes the ARC handle 3 GB for ARC plus whatever is needed for FreeBSD would leave much room for applications to run. Maybe I won't be able to use ZFS if it requires so vastly more page-fixed memory than UFS. :-( >memory pressure more gracefully, but it's not committed yet. I highly recommend >moving to 64-bit as soon as possible. I intend to do so, but "as soon as possible" will be after all this disk trouble and disk reconfiguration have been resolved. It will be done via an in-place upgrade from source, so I need to have a place to run buildworld and buildkernel. Before doing an installkernel and installworld, I need also to have a place to run full backups. I have not had a place to store new backups for the last three months, which is making me more unhappy by the day. I really have to get the disk work *done* before I can move forward on anything else, which is why I'm trying to find out whether I can actually use ZFS raidzN in that cause while still on i386. Performance will not be an issue that I can see until later if ever. I just need to know whether I can use it at all with my presently installed OS or will instead have to use gvinum(8) raid5 and hope for minimal data corruption. (At least only one .eli device would be needed in that case, not the M+N .eli devices that would be required for a raidzN pool.) Unfortunately, ideal conditions for ZFS are not an available option for now. Further, the real memory on the system will not change by converting to amd64, although at least the kernel should ignore somewhat less of that real memory than it does in i386. > >> 6) I have a much fancier computer sitting unused that I intend to >> put into service fairly soon after getting my current disk and data >> situation resolved. The drives that would be in use for raidz >> pools I would like to attach to that system when it is ready. It >> also has 4 GB of memory, but would start out as an amd64 system and >> might well have another 2 GB or 4 GB added at some point(s), though >> not immediately. What problems/pitfalls/precautions would I need >> to have in mind and be prepared for in order to move those drives >> from the current system to that newer one? >It should be pretty painless to move pools from system to system. Exporting a >pool from the old system is recommended before moving, but not necessary. One thing I ran across was the following from the zpool(8) man page. "For pools to be portable, you must give the zpool command whole disks, not just slices, so that ZFS can label the disks with portable EFI labels. Otherwise, disk drivers on platforms of different endian- ness will not recognize the disks." If I have one raidzN comprising .eli partitions and another raidzN comprising a set of unencrypted partitions on those same drives, will I be able to export both raidzN pools from a 9-STABLE system and then import them into, say, a 10-STABLE system on a different Intel amd64 machine? By your answer to question 1), it would seem that I need to have two raidzN pools, although there might be a number of benefits to having both encrypted and unencrypted file systems allocated inside a single pool were that an option. Also, I would like to use 100 - 200 GB on each drive for other purposes that might well not involve ZFS, although there may be ways I could avoid putting those functions onto the raidzNs' drives. Thanks for your answers. I am beginning now to fill in some of the pieces to the puzzle, though that process still has some way to go. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at sdf.org *xor* bennett at freeshell.org * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 08:31:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76F13B60 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 558EE25CF for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:31:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:bennett@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s778VhGa004559 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:31:44 GMT Received: (from bennett@localhost) by sdf.org (8.14.8/8.12.8/Submit) id s778VhJc015365; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 03:31:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201408070831.s778VhJc015365@sdf.org> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 03:31:43 -0500 To: freebsd@qeng-ho.org Subject: Re: gvinum raid5 vs. ZFS raidz References: <201408020621.s726LsiA024208@sdf.org> <53DCDBE8.8060704@qeng-ho.org> <201408060556.s765uKJA026937@sdf.org> <53E1FF5F.1050500@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <53E1FF5F.1050500@qeng-ho.org> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 08:31:56 -0000 Arthur Chance wrote: > On 06/08/2014 06:56, Scott Bennett wrote: > > Arthur Chance wrote: > >> > >> [stuff deleted --SB] > > I wonder if what varies is the amount of space taken up by the > > checksums. If there's a checksum for each block, then the block size > > would change the fraction of the space lost to checksums, and the parity > > for the checksums would thus also change. Enough to matter? Maybe. > > I'm not a file system guru, but my (high level) understanding is as > follows. Corrections from anyone more knowledgeable welcome. > > 1. UFS and ZFS both use tree structures to represent files, with the > data stored at the leaves and bookkeeping stored in the higher nodes. > Therefore the overhead scales as the log of the data size, which is a > negligible fraction for any sufficiently large amount of data. > > 2. UFS doesn't have data checksums, it relies purely on the hardware > checksums. (This is the area I'm least certain of.) What hardware checksums are there? I wasn't aware that this sort of hardware kept any. > > 3. ZFS keeps its checksums in a Merkel tree > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkle_tree) so the checksums are held in > the bookkeeping blocks, not in the data blocks. This simply changes the > constant multiplier in front of the logarithm for the overhead. Also, I > believe ZFS doesn't use fixed size data blocks, but aggregates writes > into blocks of up to 128K. > > Personally, I don't worry about the overheads of checksumming as the > cost of the parity stripe(s) in raidz is dominant. It's a cost well > worth paying though - I have a 3 disk raidz1 pool and a disk went bad > within 3 months of building it (the manufacturer turned out to be having > a few problems at the time) but I didn't lose a byte. > Good testimonial. I'm not worried about the checksum space either. I figure the benefits make it cheap at the price. Of more concern to me now is how I'm going to come up with at least two more 2 TB drives to set up a raidz2 with a tolerably small fraction of the total space being tied up in combined ZFS overhead (i.e., bookkeeping, parity, checksums, etc.) Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at sdf.org *xor* bennett at freeshell.org * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 08:33:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 711E6C0A for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C12A125E2 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:33:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s778XAhS036556 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:33:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s778X9pY036553 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:33:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:33:09 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: some ZFS questions In-Reply-To: <201408070816.s778G9ug015988@sdf.org> Message-ID: References: <201408070816.s778G9ug015988@sdf.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 08:33:16 -0000 On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 03:16-0500, Scott Bennett wrote: > On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 03:49:37 -0500 Andrew Berg > wrote: > >On 2014.08.06 02:32, Scott Bennett wrote: > >> I have a number of questions that I need answered before I go about > >> setting up any raidz pools. They are in no particular order. > >> > >> 1) What is the recommended method of using geli encryption with > >> ZFS? > > > >> Does one first create .eli devices and then specify those > >> .eli devices in the zpool(8) command as the devices to include > >> in the pool? > >This. > > Oh. Well, that's doable, if not terribly convenient, but it brings up > another question. After a reboot, for example, what does ZFS do while the > array of .eli devices is being attached one by one? Does it see the first > one attached without the others in sight and decide it has a failed pool? > > > >> 2) How does one start or stop a pool? > >That depends on what you mean by 'start' and 'stop'. I am guessing by what you > >described that you mean 'import' and 'export'. I'm not sure how to prevent > > Oh. Okay. At least there is some way to accomplish the same thing. > > >automatic import for pools that were imported on the same system and not > >exported prior to shutdown, but I am sure it can be done. Resilvering does not > > Maybe someone else will say how it can be done. > > >mercilessly thrash disks; standard reads and writes are given higher priority > >in the scheduler than resilver and scrub operations. > > If two pools use different partitions on a drive and both pools are > rebuilding those partitions at the same time, then how could ZFS *not* > be hammering the drive? Why would you place multiple pools on the very same drives? The only real world example I can think of is having separately mirrored boot and root pools using the same drives. E.g., bootpool using ada0p2 and ada1p2 as its mirrors, and rootpool using adap0p3 and ada1p3 as its mirrors, with ada0p1 and ada1p1 being the gpt boot partitions, and possibly with swap partitions on ada0p4 and ada1p4. > The access arm would be doing almost nothing but endless series of > long seeks back and forth between the two partitions involved. > When you're talking about hundreds of gigabytes to be written to > each partition, it could take months or even years to complete, > during which time something else is almost certain to fail and halt > the rebuilds. > > > >> 3) If a raidz2 or raidz3 loses more than one component, does one > >> simply replace and rebuild all of them at once? Or is it necessary > >> to rebuild them serially? In some particular order? > >AFAIK, replacement of several disks can't be done in a single command, but I > >don't think you need to wait for a resilver to finish on one before you can > >replace another. > > That looks good. What happens if a "zpool replace failingdrive newdrive" > is running when the failingdrive actually fails completely? > > > >> 5) When I upgrade to amd64, the usage would continue to be low- > >> intensity as defined above. Will the 4 GB be enough? I will not > >> be using the "deduplication" feature at all. > >It will be enough unless you are managing tens of TB of data. I recommend > >setting an ARC limit of 3GB or so. There is a patch that makes the ARC handle > > 3 GB for ARC plus whatever is needed for FreeBSD would leave much room > for applications to run. Maybe I won't be able to use ZFS if it requires > so vastly more page-fixed memory than UFS. :-( > > >memory pressure more gracefully, but it's not committed yet. I highly recommend > >moving to 64-bit as soon as possible. > > I intend to do so, but "as soon as possible" will be after all this > disk trouble and disk reconfiguration have been resolved. It will be done > via an in-place upgrade from source, so I need to have a place to run > buildworld and buildkernel. Before doing an installkernel and installworld, > I need also to have a place to run full backups. I have not had a place to > store new backups for the last three months, which is making me more unhappy > by the day. I really have to get the disk work *done* before I can move > forward on anything else, which is why I'm trying to find out whether I can > actually use ZFS raidzN in that cause while still on i386. Performance > will not be an issue that I can see until later if ever. I just need to > know whether I can use it at all with my presently installed OS or will > instead have to use gvinum(8) raid5 and hope for minimal data corruption. > (At least only one .eli device would be needed in that case, not the M+N > .eli devices that would be required for a raidzN pool.) Unfortunately, > ideal conditions for ZFS are not an available option for now. > Further, the real memory on the system will not change by converting > to amd64, although at least the kernel should ignore somewhat less of that > real memory than it does in i386. > > > >> 6) I have a much fancier computer sitting unused that I intend to > >> put into service fairly soon after getting my current disk and data > >> situation resolved. The drives that would be in use for raidz > >> pools I would like to attach to that system when it is ready. It > >> also has 4 GB of memory, but would start out as an amd64 system and > >> might well have another 2 GB or 4 GB added at some point(s), though > >> not immediately. What problems/pitfalls/precautions would I need > >> to have in mind and be prepared for in order to move those drives > >> from the current system to that newer one? > >It should be pretty painless to move pools from system to system. Exporting a > >pool from the old system is recommended before moving, but not necessary. > > One thing I ran across was the following from the zpool(8) man page. > > "For pools to be portable, you must give the zpool command whole > disks, not just slices, so that ZFS can label the disks with portable > EFI labels. Otherwise, disk drivers on platforms of different endian- > ness will not recognize the disks." > > If I have one raidzN comprising .eli partitions and another raidzN comprising > a set of unencrypted partitions on those same drives, will I be able to > export both raidzN pools from a 9-STABLE system and then import them > into, say, a 10-STABLE system on a different Intel amd64 machine? By your > answer to question 1), it would seem that I need to have two raidzN pools, > although there might be a number of benefits to having both encrypted and > unencrypted file systems allocated inside a single pool were that an option. > Also, I would like to use 100 - 200 GB on each drive for other purposes that > might well not involve ZFS, although there may be ways I could avoid putting > those functions onto the raidzNs' drives. > Thanks for your answers. I am beginning now to fill in some of the > pieces to the puzzle, though that process still has some way to go. > > > Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG > ********************************************************************** > * Internet: bennett at sdf.org *xor* bennett at freeshell.org * > *--------------------------------------------------------------------* > * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * > * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * > * -- a standing army." * > * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * > ********************************************************************** -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestl, | Trond Endrestl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 08:35:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D498FCC3 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6041025FD for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:35:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s778ZaSh036600 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:35:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s778Zadk036597; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:35:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:35:36 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Scott Bennett Subject: Re: gvinum raid5 vs. ZFS raidz In-Reply-To: <201408070831.s778VhJc015365@sdf.org> Message-ID: References: <201408020621.s726LsiA024208@sdf.org> <53DCDBE8.8060704@qeng-ho.org> <201408060556.s765uKJA026937@sdf.org> <53E1FF5F.1050500@qeng-ho.org> <201408070831.s778VhJc015365@sdf.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: freebsd@qeng-ho.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 08:35:41 -0000 On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 03:31-0500, Scott Bennett wrote: > Arthur Chance wrote: > > > On 06/08/2014 06:56, Scott Bennett wrote: > > > Arthur Chance wrote: > > >> > > >> [stuff deleted --SB] > > > I wonder if what varies is the amount of space taken up by the > > > checksums. If there's a checksum for each block, then the block size > > > would change the fraction of the space lost to checksums, and the parity > > > for the checksums would thus also change. Enough to matter? Maybe. > > > > I'm not a file system guru, but my (high level) understanding is as > > follows. Corrections from anyone more knowledgeable welcome. > > > > 1. UFS and ZFS both use tree structures to represent files, with the > > data stored at the leaves and bookkeeping stored in the higher nodes. > > Therefore the overhead scales as the log of the data size, which is a > > negligible fraction for any sufficiently large amount of data. > > > > 2. UFS doesn't have data checksums, it relies purely on the hardware > > checksums. (This is the area I'm least certain of.) > > What hardware checksums are there? I wasn't aware that this sort of > hardware kept any. To quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_sector: In disk drives, each physical sector is made up of three basic parts, the sector header, the data area and the error-correcting code (ECC). > > 3. ZFS keeps its checksums in a Merkel tree > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkle_tree) so the checksums are held in > > the bookkeeping blocks, not in the data blocks. This simply changes the > > constant multiplier in front of the logarithm for the overhead. Also, I > > believe ZFS doesn't use fixed size data blocks, but aggregates writes > > into blocks of up to 128K. > > > > Personally, I don't worry about the overheads of checksumming as the > > cost of the parity stripe(s) in raidz is dominant. It's a cost well > > worth paying though - I have a 3 disk raidz1 pool and a disk went bad > > within 3 months of building it (the manufacturer turned out to be having > > a few problems at the time) but I didn't lose a byte. > > > Good testimonial. I'm not worried about the checksum space either. > I figure the benefits make it cheap at the price. Of more concern to me > now is how I'm going to come up with at least two more 2 TB drives to set > up a raidz2 with a tolerably small fraction of the total space being tied > up in combined ZFS overhead (i.e., bookkeeping, parity, checksums, etc.) > > > Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG > ********************************************************************** > * Internet: bennett at sdf.org *xor* bennett at freeshell.org * > *--------------------------------------------------------------------* > * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * > * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * > * -- a standing army." * > * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * > ********************************************************************** -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestl, | Trond Endrestl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 09:37:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 168E9CA3 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 09:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E76062CF4 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 09:37:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:bennett@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s779alOS002276 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Thu, 7 Aug 2014 09:36:48 GMT Received: (from bennett@localhost) by sdf.org (8.14.8/8.12.8/Submit) id s779akMv017524; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 04:36:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201408070936.s779akMv017524@sdf.org> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 04:36:46 -0500 To: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no Subject: Re: gvinum raid5 vs. ZFS raidz References: <201408020621.s726LsiA024208@sdf.org> <53DCDBE8.8060704@qeng-ho.org> <201408060556.s765uKJA026937@sdf.org> <53E1FF5F.1050500@qeng-ho.org> <201408070831.s778VhJc015365@sdf.org> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd@qeng-ho.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 09:37:51 -0000 Trond Endrest?l wrote: > On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 03:31-0500, Scott Bennett wrote: > > Arthur Chance wrote: > > > On 06/08/2014 06:56, Scott Bennett wrote: > > > > Arthur Chance wrote: > > > >> > > > >> [stuff deleted --SB] > > > > I wonder if what varies is the amount of space taken up by the > > > > checksums. If there's a checksum for each block, then the block size > > > > would change the fraction of the space lost to checksums, and the parity > > > > for the checksums would thus also change. Enough to matter? Maybe. > > > > > > I'm not a file system guru, but my (high level) understanding is as > > > follows. Corrections from anyone more knowledgeable welcome. > > > > > > 1. UFS and ZFS both use tree structures to represent files, with the > > > data stored at the leaves and bookkeeping stored in the higher nodes. > > > Therefore the overhead scales as the log of the data size, which is a > > > negligible fraction for any sufficiently large amount of data. > > > > > > 2. UFS doesn't have data checksums, it relies purely on the hardware > > > checksums. (This is the area I'm least certain of.) > > > > What hardware checksums are there? I wasn't aware that this sort of > > hardware kept any. > > To quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_sector: > > In disk drives, each physical sector is made up of three basic parts, > the sector header, the data area and the error-correcting code (ECC). That's interesting, and I know it was true in the days of minicomputers. However, it appears to be out of date, based upon 1) the observed fact that corrupted data *do* get recorded onto today's PC-style disk drives with no indication that an error has occurred, no parity bits are present in the processor chips, memory cards, motherboards, PATA/SATA/SCSI/etc. controllers, nor 2) the disk drives themselves, as confirmed by the technical support guy I spoke with about it at Seagate/Samsung recently. That guy said that there is *no parity-checking* of data written to/read from the disks and that some silent errors are now considered to be "normal" on disks whose capacities exceed 1 TB. > > [remainder deleted --SB] Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at sdf.org *xor* bennett at freeshell.org * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 09:48:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AD37AB for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 09:48:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay06.ispgateway.de (smtprelay06.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.104]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ADB72F0A for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 09:48:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [78.35.131.203] (helo=fabiankeil.de) by smtprelay06.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (SSLv3:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1XFKIu-0008TR-Ko for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 11:48:12 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 11:48:18 +0200 From: Fabian Keil To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrade to 10 for zfs ? Message-ID: <4b25f41c.28bdc275@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: <20140806135423.GC98168@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <20140806135423.GC98168@pcjas.obspm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/iG8CqmL5+dGRX9T/0scrvHn"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Df-Sender: Nzc1MDY3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 09:48:22 -0000 --Sig_/iG8CqmL5+dGRX9T/0scrvHn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Albert Shih wrote: > I've (in production) a file server running FreeBSD 9.1-p8. The only thing > this server does is file-server. Not event through nfs just keep all > file. >=20 > All data file system is using ZFS. I got pretty big (or let's say not > small) pool (150To) and the server got 48Go of Ram.=20 >=20 > Since we using zfs send/received from a another server I got daily a zfs > core dump. I failed to find which process make this core-dump but it's > definitvly zfs :=20 >=20 > pid 23943 (zfs), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) > pid 70462 (zfs), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) > pid 71042 (zfs), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) >=20 > I check every zfs file system and don't find any corup data.=20 >=20 > One of the zfs sender is running FreeBSD 10 the other linux/Debian.=20 >=20 > What's you advise ? Should I upgrade to FreeBSD 10. ?=20 Note that receiving zfs processes may also crash on FreeBSD 11: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2014-July/019814.html The cause hasn't been analysed yet and from your description it's not clear to me if it's the same assertion that's being triggered, but in my case the problem is reproducible, so you could look for receiving datasets that are missing snapshots that should have been received already. If no snapshots are missing, it's probably an unrelated issue. Obviously checking the backtrace wouldn't hurt either. Fabian --Sig_/iG8CqmL5+dGRX9T/0scrvHn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlPjS2IACgkQBYqIVf93VJ082gCfYzSbrOrtAfyx/olW8geRT9Vn WgUAn2lak7U9p5gXSsrZqr+wnmThDKXM =sYy8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/iG8CqmL5+dGRX9T/0scrvHn-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 10:37:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8255FE99 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no", Issuer "Fagskolen i Gj??vik" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27BFA24B0 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:37:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s77AauFH037484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:36:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s77AauOr037481; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:36:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:36:56 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: Scott Bennett Subject: Re: gvinum raid5 vs. ZFS raidz In-Reply-To: <201408070936.s779akMv017524@sdf.org> Message-ID: References: <201408020621.s726LsiA024208@sdf.org> <53DCDBE8.8060704@qeng-ho.org> <201408060556.s765uKJA026937@sdf.org> <53E1FF5F.1050500@qeng-ho.org> <201408070831.s778VhJc015365@sdf.org> <201408070936.s779akMv017524@sdf.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on mail.fig.ol.no Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: freebsd@qeng-ho.org, FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 10:37:02 -0000 On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 04:36-0500, Scott Bennett wrote: > Trond Endrestl wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 03:31-0500, Scott Bennett wrote: > > > Arthur Chance wrote: > > > > On 06/08/2014 06:56, Scott Bennett wrote: > > > > > Arthur Chance wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> [stuff deleted --SB] > > > > > I wonder if what varies is the amount of space taken up by the > > > > > checksums. If there's a checksum for each block, then the block size > > > > > would change the fraction of the space lost to checksums, and the parity > > > > > for the checksums would thus also change. Enough to matter? Maybe. > > > > > > > > I'm not a file system guru, but my (high level) understanding is as > > > > follows. Corrections from anyone more knowledgeable welcome. > > > > > > > > 1. UFS and ZFS both use tree structures to represent files, with the > > > > data stored at the leaves and bookkeeping stored in the higher nodes. > > > > Therefore the overhead scales as the log of the data size, which is a > > > > negligible fraction for any sufficiently large amount of data. > > > > > > > > 2. UFS doesn't have data checksums, it relies purely on the hardware > > > > checksums. (This is the area I'm least certain of.) > > > > > > What hardware checksums are there? I wasn't aware that this sort of > > > hardware kept any. > > > > To quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_sector: > > > > In disk drives, each physical sector is made up of three basic parts, > > the sector header, the data area and the error-correcting code (ECC). > > That's interesting, and I know it was true in the days of minicomputers. > However, it appears to be out of date, based upon 1) the observed fact that > corrupted data *do* get recorded onto today's PC-style disk drives with no > indication that an error has occurred, no parity bits are present in the > processor chips, memory cards, motherboards, PATA/SATA/SCSI/etc. controllers, > nor 2) the disk drives themselves, as confirmed by the technical support guy > I spoke with about it at Seagate/Samsung recently. That guy said that there > is *no parity-checking* of data written to/read from the disks and that some > silent errors are now considered to be "normal" on disks whose capacities > exceed 1 TB. I guess I stand corrected. It's been some years since I had any CS/CE education, and maybe my professor's knowledge were also a bit dated back then (1999-2002). However, some, if not all, enterprise graded disks uses 520 bytes blocks, giving 8 bytes extra compared to the usual 512 bytes blocks, possibly to be used for ECC, etc. Though, as proved above, I can be equally wrong about the ECC used in enterprise graded disks. It seems modern day consumer electronics are being manufactured way too brittle. :-/ -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestl, | Trond Endrestl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 11:07:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D93FF41B for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 11:07:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9D052764 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 11:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:bennett@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s77B6K9r013235 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Thu, 7 Aug 2014 11:06:20 GMT Received: (from bennett@localhost) by sdf.org (8.14.8/8.12.8/Submit) id s77B6JCI005742; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 06:06:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201408071106.s77B6JCI005742@sdf.org> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 06:06:19 -0500 To: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no Subject: Re: gvinum raid5 vs. ZFS raidz References: <201408020621.s726LsiA024208@sdf.org> <53DCDBE8.8060704@qeng-ho.org> <201408060556.s765uKJA026937@sdf.org> <53E1FF5F.1050500@qeng-ho.org> <201408070831.s778VhJc015365@sdf.org> <201408070936.s779akMv017524@sdf.org> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd@qeng-ho.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 11:07:23 -0000 Trond Endrest?l wrote: > On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 04:36-0500, Scott Bennett wrote: > > Trond Endrest?l wrote: > > > On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 03:31-0500, Scott Bennett wrote: > > > > Arthur Chance wrote: > > > > > On 06/08/2014 06:56, Scott Bennett wrote: > > > > > > Arthur Chance wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> [stuff deleted --SB] > > > > > > I wonder if what varies is the amount of space taken up by the > > > > > > checksums. If there's a checksum for each block, then the block size > > > > > > would change the fraction of the space lost to checksums, and the parity > > > > > > for the checksums would thus also change. Enough to matter? Maybe. > > > > > > > > > > I'm not a file system guru, but my (high level) understanding is as > > > > > follows. Corrections from anyone more knowledgeable welcome. > > > > > > > > > > 1. UFS and ZFS both use tree structures to represent files, with the > > > > > data stored at the leaves and bookkeeping stored in the higher nodes. > > > > > Therefore the overhead scales as the log of the data size, which is a > > > > > negligible fraction for any sufficiently large amount of data. > > > > > > > > > > 2. UFS doesn't have data checksums, it relies purely on the hardware > > > > > checksums. (This is the area I'm least certain of.) > > > > > > > > What hardware checksums are there? I wasn't aware that this sort of > > > > hardware kept any. > > > > > > To quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_sector: > > > > > > In disk drives, each physical sector is made up of three basic parts, > > > the sector header, the data area and the error-correcting code (ECC). > > > > That's interesting, and I know it was true in the days of minicomputers. > > However, it appears to be out of date, based upon 1) the observed fact that > > corrupted data *do* get recorded onto today's PC-style disk drives with no > > indication that an error has occurred, no parity bits are present in the > > processor chips, memory cards, motherboards, PATA/SATA/SCSI/etc. controllers, > > nor 2) the disk drives themselves, as confirmed by the technical support guy > > I spoke with about it at Seagate/Samsung recently. That guy said that there > > is *no parity-checking* of data written to/read from the disks and that some > > silent errors are now considered to be "normal" on disks whose capacities > > exceed 1 TB. > > I guess I stand corrected. It's been some years since I had any CS/CE > education, and maybe my professor's knowledge were also a bit dated > back then (1999-2002). > > However, some, if not all, enterprise graded disks uses 520 bytes > blocks, giving 8 bytes extra compared to the usual 512 bytes blocks, > possibly to be used for ECC, etc. Even just as parity bits, those would amount to only one bit per eight bytes, which seems inadequate. OTOH, the 520 bytes thing is tickling something in my memory that I can't quite seem to recover, and I don't know (or can't remember) what else those eight bytes might be used for. In any case, at the time I spoke with the guy at Seagate/Samsung, I was unaware of the server grade vs. non-server grade distinction, so I didn't know to ask him anything about whether silent errors should be accepted as "normal" for the server grade of disks. > > Though, as proved above, I can be equally wrong about the ECC used in > enterprise graded disks. As just noted above, I can't comment about server/enterprise grades of disks either. However, I do not that many server motherboards can use, or even require, ECC memory. Whether the parity information from the ECC memory is also reflected in extra data bus lines in the CPU, I/O controllers, or peripheral devices of any kind is another matter. > > It seems modern day consumer electronics are being manufactured way > too brittle. :-/ > I agree completely. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG P.O. 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John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 12:12:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8464766A for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:12:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FF172001 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:12:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id wm4so2813001obc.41 for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 05:12:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8zL3hs3FfImvhk0dPcFGotcaq1N4GFpaaBsAxa+8ebw=; b=UVcFN/Ja9W9FnfEM00ZNHXYz+oqJZEtgpVKekQlP0RCBnS+32I5YQQsHiBN+pP2r2O La4g26BzT51ylgnop4Vd+zaKbSMheo+iRHwX04w0Hj3rx+zcG5ziBkD0Jcxyu/f8MzEB G+8RMeECNRxt86D1GvJVi4r55RH9N+oFqYtIcPWCEclJIOnNGBTMumx6LtGfKnzyu5Fj Jm1xSpra8mOWH1kwoQnwBJsZWydMuVPq119XeeF7U8NI2WtTvKvqkLbM32DLJU6XOO2v vDt0UsKNmtzjErj302x0mi9P+Fd4OQe13tNhuZPmkyS+oOfGPkesKZUgazsCfxbF3CGp Ekxg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQncAKpOKRGEbXEWag6eOG9omOgNl0ggc3ke6i85/wJ7C2NR+Duy4GedimmxnE4tiFOHQWJo MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.65.65 with SMTP id v1mr23015754obs.58.1407413557208; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 05:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.68.230 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 05:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 13:12:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: correctly configuring PF with jailed environments From: Norman Khine To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 12:12:44 -0000 hello, i have a web application running 3 jail environments one for Nginx Web server, one for MongoDB/Redis and one for my Node.js application this is my current pf.conf file https://gist.github.com/nkhine/d03ea23a749c47bcc4d0 this works, as there is no access to my node app nor any of the dbs from public interfaces. the rules come out as # pfctl -s rules scrub out log on igb0 all random-id min-ttl 15 set-tos 0x1c fragment reassemble scrub in log on igb0 all min-ttl 15 fragment reassemble scrub in all fragment reassemble i find that on my webserver i get timeouts and the applicationd does not load up quickly! also, are there any improvements i can make to this as to ensure a more secure environment? any advice much appreciated -- %>>> "".join( [ {'*':'@','^':'.'}.get(c,None) or chr(97+(ord(c)-83)%26) for c in ",adym,*)&uzq^zqf" ] ) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 12:53:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA23F150 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from miucha.iecc.com (abusenet-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:1126::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "miucha.iecc.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 868CC24E2 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23017 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2014 12:53:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent; s=59e8.53e376df.k1408; bh=yRnp80/t+ui6R1O5IXL0gQ4YuMU3XkGtaDZdF2IhrV8=; b=HjXVrSvq4XbIJSXRsNM8ZWcLLdEHnxvaWDj6QuP5rv1LAxJ4bZPz4IvDXuMzIvtahVhO4Mq7fGAhTLXRZ6vjeslUJvbuYtiYz+ihn+HfRJwuguQUOdt/Pys8/XWO3jPKGxSmqX98XV/UthyZQKJUdyHPOx4XzLCnZwGWeXMnHGtG8oQDYuJqesAd5LUMuIChOyJGCp2zme3+Bzx0JMmnL4Hu/invO1FKs++A8r9yFrEi24yaxFXNy6FSgldv6XQS Received: from localhost ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.0/X.509/SHA1) via TCP6; 07 Aug 2014 12:53:50 -0000 Date: 7 Aug 2014 08:53:45 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "David Benfell" Subject: Re: he.net IPv6 tunnel In-Reply-To: <20140807052054.GA1791@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140804105020.GD94656@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140806231738.13354.qmail@joyce.lan> <20140807041023.GA1656@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140807052054.GA1791@home.parts-unknown.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 12:53:53 -0000 >> If you don't want to route the v6 addresses on your LAN, put them on the >> loopback lo0 rather than a real interface. > > I think I do want them on a real interface. They need to be > addressable from the outside world. Am I misunderstanding aliasing? The traffic comes in via the tunnel, not via your LAN, so there's no point in putting them on a LAN interface. > Can I use the configuration bits you had for bce0 on my em0? And if I > do, is there a way to set it up so I'm only being nice to that > wireless router rather than the whole Big Bad Internet? Yes, it's just a different kind of Internet. > gif0: flags=8011 metric 0 mtu 1280 > inet6 fe80::4639:c4ff:fe3a:d7ea%gif0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 > nd6 options=21 > > No endpoints are listed for gif0 and while I can ping my original IPv6 > address and its aliases.... This says there's a bug and suggests a workaround: https://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=44747 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 15:40:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 860242FC for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 15:40:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x231.google.com (mail-pa0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 585E82B0E for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 15:40:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id hz1so5534478pad.8 for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 08:40:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=9Nukrpu2si5+uVjM9GobmU/rRrYAtKY7LCI2C8K9c5g=; b=bZgLASMeaF0bval9i3Zkt2qBEkYdTta9pkAkTaAW7NwRvhSyPy9ESUD7LXejbdCZdO FGAabhRcxPDhkIz1QCSHQID8EVwolQXEBEn99EU02QMoiuq+GuTfXtkZqQ5n1T1opav3 9/1mvHoftE4CCXTThd7RGv+Oz3ZYAk2JRU1F2rSwHMBKlCUkg6OEji/NxKq8BLVrnRX4 kAPKNjDDueR9Zrt080ks75zTn6y9FqooLUxdJLQx3YggqEwC63yiXwSFtr5P8ZoKpmc7 wGmwVevPgA5fbxdToAhSBR9Bkd9uDM90+F5fLJa0kYRTk+LDMVH0xr1ISESGkwieKIDk Jjtg== X-Received: by 10.70.101.201 with SMTP id fi9mr6462422pdb.125.1407426017875; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 08:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.76] (75-63-29-182.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. [75.63.29.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id kt2sm200672pbc.83.2014.08.07.08.40.16 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Aug 2014 08:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: 10Gbit NIC From: aurfalien In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:40:14 -0700 Message-Id: <351C2D21-C16B-4DCF-A296-3C2ADE36E3CB@gmail.com> References: To: Daniel Feenberg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: Daniel Corbe , questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 15:40:18 -0000 Solarflare here. Works great. - aurf "Janitorial Services" On Aug 6, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Feenberg wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, Daniel Corbe wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> Anyone have good experience with 10Gbit in FreeBSD? Have you been = able >> to forward at line rate? What cards give the best performance? >>=20 >> -Daniel >=20 > With 10GBE compatibility has not reached the point where one can worry = about performance. >=20 > We have used HP NC522SFP+ and NC523SFP+ NICs with good result for = 10GBE over DAC. They work with any DAC cable. We found that we could = transfer files over NFS at line rate (but those are large packets). We = don't know if it could pass small packets at line rate. >=20 > We have used Chelsio N310 for DAC, but PXE booting would not work with = non-Chelsio cables, and Chelsio cables are not always available, even = from Chelsio. Also, NFS seemed to hang from time to time (in Linux). >=20 > We did not ever use our Brocade DAC card, we were unable to find a DAC = cable that was accepted by the NIC at PXE boot time. >=20 > We have used Intel X540-T1 with good result for twisted pair. With = twisted pair the cable is completely standard. Cat 6A and 7 have both = worked for us. PXE booting worked. >=20 > We have never used FO. These experiences are mostly with Linux, but = the HP and Chelsio cards have been used with FreeBSD for several years. >=20 > In the future I expect to purchase only the Intel X540 cards. >=20 > Daniel Feenberg >=20 >=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 15:42:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BECC52A for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 15:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x232.google.com (mail-we0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 055132BD3 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 15:42:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f178.google.com with SMTP id w61so4481967wes.9 for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 08:42:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:message-id:date :to:mime-version; bh=yS8GUvBKsanvUr7lY4eZRzCY+58M7wwBCHybqtRvF5o=; b=IxT2ij/rQjUiSsb43xSEavQoTvStO8RaLZk2E3UDuAlPIR8T19T1yVZcCGqWLycq1l afJ9LRHCanMGBMLkof6Ie5+AEdkVJJtYiUBegsMzsgjnlkZllNLbCPaslPqhPbaPXqTS +E6fhKZxjt/wGhGzhhIi77BwYIGZklZ7Yr/OT3Lc/FthaGDIUyoji+UyptDP3nN5DjJk DBFKbAjpsACjx5JrNFVS2qzR6J7M00UMNxAD3jX9GfmUHiE5oSO1qXCiRfuQ8rdnjjHL eH7v86V0ni5xO3SVZQol2rPff5XRoIKYJDlqkrRIOskJowvuHN5Y+tu0vlONIEcfEdaZ mkMg== X-Received: by 10.194.222.5 with SMTP id qi5mr24959045wjc.62.1407426169288; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 08:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hollewijn.internal (8d690a59.ftth.concepts.nl. [141.105.10.89]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id je17sm715514wic.22.2014.08.07.08.42.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Aug 2014 08:42:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Alban Hertroys Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: How to set up wired+wireless using isc-dhcpd&bind9 so that IP's are in the same subnet? Message-Id: <1FE21504-EAA2-4814-A371-25039EA405EB@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 17:42:47 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 15:42:51 -0000 Hi all, I currently have a setup at home where I have a FreeBSD 9-STABLE gateway = with both an em0 and an ath0 adapter (and a 3rd adapter to the = internet). Wired devices such as the Mac, the A/V receiver, the playstation and the = TV are configured in one subnet (=93wired=94) with IP-ranges in = 10.0.0.0/24. Wireless devices such as the iPad and the mobile phone are configured in = another subnet (=93wireless=94) in IP-ranges 10.0.1.0/24. That works like a charm, except=85 Apps on the iPad to control the TV or = the playstation _insist_ that both devices are on the same subnet. = Apparently they aren=92t, as those apps can=92t find my wired devices. I have been trying to fix that, but I can=92t seem to wrap my head = around how to do that. * I currently have 2 bind9 zone files: wired.db & wireless.db and their = reverse files: wired.rev & wireless.rev. To achieve what those apps seem = to want I suppose I need to merge both zone-files into a single zone, = such that the domain names are the same between both networks (assuming = that domains and zones are equivalent). * My (isc-)dhcpd.conf currently has 2 subnets. I am under the impression = that I need to keep it that way, as either subnet requires its own = gateway and DNS server addresses - they are on different = interfaces/routes. I=92ll probably have to do something with the inet = addresses and masks to make both subnets look like a single one from the = outside, but how? My attempts so far have mostly caused errors about = overlapping ranges from dhcpd or broke networking entirely. I=92ve been trying to merge both subnets under 10.0.0.0/24 as subnets = 10.0.0.0/25 + 10.0.0.128/25. That didn=92t work, probably because it = breaks broadcasts since the =93wired" subnet won=92t have broadcast = address 10.0.0.255 in its range, or if it does, it probably translates = to the =93wireless=94 subnet and goes to the wrong gateway/DNS. I=92ve also been trying to find information how to set up bind zone = files for C-level domains, as with such a setup my two IP-ranges should = fall within the same domain, which should achieve the same thing = (provided those apps are willing to accept a C-level domain range, I = imagine they might not for security considerations). I can=92t be the first to attempt something like this, but Google seems = to disagree. I=92d appreciate some help, or better yet, a working = similar configuration that I can compare mine against as I=92m obviously = a bit out of my league here. Regards, Alban Hertroys -- If you can't see the forest for the trees, cut the trees and you'll find there is no forest. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 16:22:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 621B270A for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 16:22:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x22c.google.com (mail-wg0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F224E2420 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 16:22:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id m15so4338297wgh.3 for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 09:22:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jKH4n9S0NuRzngMy96Ytc8DxWKCvrCjLaSa4asqXw6s=; b=yQS66tlTvjGsWU6OIYGb3LzEi7MU2Fl6V+P68Us7WynDKy/iB+B1kNk/manlWqZ3MU skJgawR7qqW8U1AQgREuaJzGvvsg0ZV4drNTqjE+qT0sD5WsyaQYnWDn5G9aW1LV3eN5 +/ulJN9iZrgGxv/tzvU8EGFkCSmEZd8ER0qmhS4l2cj1NySuLnoVTGUUcIEbCfNutMoI okCnw9C5CxU7i5PX6fTUlUHJe2GiJleJL2rUXRrq0tuRM+CJsHaNDzChW0r3P59jFfjC dNkIFoA5APyNGw3Mg/SQ8UeW/MFNo2j2k9oAiKxA4ZKZQcDlJKY8OND5llogJJi36YQ1 523A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.38.39 with SMTP id d7mr25083281wik.24.1407428554308; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 09:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.186.196 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 09:22:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140802223804.GA42137@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140802223804.GA42137@home.parts-unknown.org> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:22:34 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Touchpad issues From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: David Benfell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 16:22:36 -0000 On 2 August 2014 18:38, David Benfell wrote: > Hi all, > > This is on my Asus X202E. For me its touchpad (and every other > touchpad I have ever encountered) is hypersensitive. The cursor > moves erratically. It clicks when it wants to, which is often > not when *I* want it to. It seems to regard the area of the > buttons as area that should indicate cursor movement. When I > put a finger on the surface to try to move the cursor, it some- > times mistakes this for a click. I would prefer buttons to be > buttons and not anything else, and cursor movement surface to > be cursor movement surface and not anything else. > > I've posted my xorg.conf here: http://gw.gd/fVMO > > Notice the FingerHigh option on the Synaptics Touchpad section. > It is orders of magnitude higher than I have seen in any example > I've found on the net. Its behavior is somewhat improved but > *still* somewhat erratic. My hunch is that I should be tweaking > something else. > > I have also posted my Xorg.0.log here: http://gw.gd/S0Xt > > The touchpad is not, apparently, really a Synaptics. It also > complains about other things such as finger width settings that > I have no idea how to tweak. > > How should I be fixing this? > I strongly dislike xorg taking over the kernel r=C3=B4le of mediating hardware, so I don't have a HAL-ified xorg, & I have hw.psm.synaptics_support=3D1 in my /boot/loader.conf & I use the old, simple "Driver" "mouse" with /dev/sysmouse (Options "Protocol" "auto"). Letting moused(8) handle the plugging & unplugging of USB mousies works fine & everything I need does what I need. I'm not saying this is the best way to handle it, but it does give edge scrolling & such, & a bunch of tunables under hw.psm that I've never fiddled with. It's a bit touchy for my taste, but dropping your wrists while typing is a bad habit anyway. I also don't know how well moused(8) works with a HAL- ified xorg & hot-plugging USB mousies, I don't care to test it. --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 16:24:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4653F7A4 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 16:24:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (dns-bn1lp0143.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.143]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E51AC2435 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 16:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:e806:9aa:f68a:db81] (2601:2:4780:2fd:e806:9aa:f68a:db81) by CY1PR0301MB0841.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.163.147) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.995.14; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 16:24:28 +0000 Message-ID: <53E3A836.9080904@my.hennepintech.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 11:24:22 -0500 From: Andrew Berg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Bennett Subject: Re: some ZFS questions References: <201408070816.s778G9ug015988@sdf.org> In-Reply-To: <201408070816.s778G9ug015988@sdf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [2601:2:4780:2fd:e806:9aa:f68a:db81] X-ClientProxiedBy: BY2PR03CA061.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.141.249.34) To CY1PR0301MB0841.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.163.147) X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID: X-Forefront-PRVS: 029651C7A1 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(24454002)(189002)(199002)(51704005)(65956001)(74502001)(83506001)(77096002)(31966008)(20776003)(64126003)(54356999)(65806001)(19580405001)(83322001)(80316001)(59896001)(77982001)(65816999)(85306004)(110136001)(88552001)(47776003)(87266999)(19580395003)(80022001)(76176999)(86362001)(101416001)(64706001)(95666004)(23676002)(74662001)(107046002)(50986999)(79102001)(46102001)(42186005)(50466002)(92726001)(87976001)(76482001)(4396001)(21056001)(85852003)(102836001)(89122001)(83072002)(81542001)(106356001)(33656002)(92566001)(75432001)(105586002)(99396002)(81342001)(89472002)(3826002); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:CY1PR0301MB0841; H:[IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:e806:9aa:f68a:db81]; FPR:; MLV:nov; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; LANG:en; X-OriginatorOrg: my.hennepintech.edu Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 16:24:31 -0000 On 2014.08.07 03:16, Scott Bennett wrote: > On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 03:49:37 -0500 Andrew Berg > wrote: >>On 2014.08.06 02:32, Scott Bennett wrote: >>> I have a number of questions that I need answered before I go about >>> setting up any raidz pools. They are in no particular order. >>> >>> 1) What is the recommended method of using geli encryption with >>> ZFS? >> >>> Does one first create .eli devices and then specify those >>> .eli devices in the zpool(8) command as the devices to include >>> in the pool? >>This. > > Oh. Well, that's doable, if not terribly convenient, but it brings up > another question. After a reboot, for example, what does ZFS do while the > array of .eli devices is being attached one by one? Does it see the first > one attached without the others in sight and decide it has a failed pool? Once you bring the .eli devices back online, zpool will see them and your pool will be back online. Before then, it won't really do anything but tell you the disks are not available and therefore, neither is your pool. The status of the pool is 'unavailable', not 'faulted'. >>mercilessly thrash disks; standard reads and writes are given higher priority >>in the scheduler than resilver and scrub operations. > > If two pools use different partitions on a drive and both pools are > rebuilding those partitions at the same time, then how could ZFS *not* > be hammering the drive? A good reason not to setup your pools like that. >>> 3) If a raidz2 or raidz3 loses more than one component, does one >>> simply replace and rebuild all of them at once? Or is it necessary >>> to rebuild them serially? In some particular order? >>AFAIK, replacement of several disks can't be done in a single command, but I >>don't think you need to wait for a resilver to finish on one before you can >>replace another. > > That looks good. What happens if a "zpool replace failingdrive newdrive" > is running when the failingdrive actually fails completely? Assuming you don't trigger some race condition (which would be rare if you're using decent controllers), nothing special. A disk doesn't need to be present and functioning to be replaced. >>> 5) When I upgrade to amd64, the usage would continue to be low- >>> intensity as defined above. Will the 4 GB be enough? I will not >>> be using the "deduplication" feature at all. >>It will be enough unless you are managing tens of TB of data. I recommend >>setting an ARC limit of 3GB or so. There is a patch that makes the ARC handle > > 3 GB for ARC plus whatever is needed for FreeBSD would leave much room > for applications to run. Maybe I won't be able to use ZFS if it requires > so vastly more page-fixed memory than UFS. :-( 3GB is the hard limit here. If applications need more, they'll get it. The only reason to set a limit at all is that the ARC currently has issues giving up memory gracefully. As I said, there's a patch in discussion to fix it. > One thing I ran across was the following from the zpool(8) man page. > > "For pools to be portable, you must give the zpool command whole > disks, not just slices, so that ZFS can label the disks with portable > EFI labels. Otherwise, disk drivers on platforms of different endian- > ness will not recognize the disks." Well, that is kind of confusing since slices != partitions and partitions aren't mentioned. Using slices is also something someone would generally not do with GPT. I'll look at that part of the man page and maybe bring it up on the doc and fs MLs. > If I have one raidzN comprising .eli partitions and another raidzN comprising > a set of unencrypted partitions on those same drives, will I be able to > export both raidzN pools from a 9-STABLE system and then import them > into, say, a 10-STABLE system on a different Intel amd64 machine? By your > answer to question 1), it would seem that I need to have two raidzN pools, > although there might be a number of benefits to having both encrypted and > unencrypted file systems allocated inside a single pool were that an option. Having any physical disk be a part of more than one pool is not recommended (except perhaps for cache and log devices where failure is not a big deal). Not only can it cause thrashing as you mentioned above, but one disk dying makes both pools degraded. Lose two disks, and you lose both pools. If you need only some things encrypted, perhaps something that works above the FS layer such as PEFS would be a better option for you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 21:13:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 920DEA3F for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 21:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (shellworld.net [69.60.117.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7114C27F5 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 21:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server1.shellworld.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307F3228B0 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 17:07:53 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Legacy Images MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <39528.1407445673.1@server1.shellworld.net> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 16:07:53 -0500 From: "Martin G. McCormick" Message-Id: <20140807210753.307F3228B0@server1.shellworld.net> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 21:13:51 -0000 All of our production servers are FreeBSD9.1 and will soon be upgraded to 9.3 but they are not there yet. We like to run the same versions of bind and DHCP. I am presently replacing a 9.1 server that may be having hardware issues with a brand new server that probably should still run FreeBSD9.1 like it's work mate for now. Can I still get an AMD64 USB stick image that will get me to as close to FreeBSD9.1 as possible? Thank you. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 21:26:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2172BC9E for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 21:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f179.google.com (mail-ob0-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E10D628EB for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 21:26:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id wn1so3439042obc.10 for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 14:26:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=MYF5EqzyVkZ8rs0d6WsuKEQOkbG1kVRSRekADBgBqCI=; b=k5A04/bRuayB3zhH3M3fa8EteopYQBZQHzFtAzcwpzcKCvS0dqV3INO2OMlNapkTRX Z9FVed3CXoE/GBirNa6UvoaA0ygxJP/cy7Jyc3KRdUiXycfuPi80NEKgnIl9Cu1UXjoB UOvSfecGIBK/9Hrw4ZWmhhhT6h3ObHIZrid4N5tf5eS4KiBxLwB86gCigRxWJfklcYSN ph2uPtXsqneyGZmBb4dHht8Dm33WIsFmdq4s+nJMMswXYxy3z3zUkMU0FBvofddcfIWQ MaCLeEMvh3fA94fQaNidIazo4SC2lJ468c+xGvhRtzXthR1AUrFPDjaZUKiSyIx2NzpP F4rA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnZ/EDyWUGZE71/O76Dcpq08W6Xj2C5vgd42w/sX+e7aFRATCQKt2Muqxz0G95Igmx69KV5 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.44.65 with SMTP id c1mr6181463oem.83.1407446797199; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 14:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.120.37 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:26:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140807210753.307F3228B0@server1.shellworld.net> References: <20140807210753.307F3228B0@server1.shellworld.net> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:26:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Legacy Images From: Michael Sierchio To: "Martin G. McCormick" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 21:26:44 -0000 On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > ... Can I still get an AMD64 USB stick image that will > get me to as close to FreeBSD9.1 as possible? http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/9.1/ - M From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 22:03:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4144EFB for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 22:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7A82DD0 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 22:03:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout08 with smtp id by071o005516WCc01y08hZ; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 23:00:09 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=TaoYtHgh c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=_gelNhxkGRwA:10 a=EjTdRnRuEwcA:10 a=gmDM-f-NuEcA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=qYC4LuZ3ev7KbkXlJ4wA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.83) (envelope-from ) id 1XFVjD-0000zq-BF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 23:00:07 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 23:00:05 +0100 Message-ID: <2566923.NYjNegQDVj@curlew.lan> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.5 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE-p17; KDE/4.12.5; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Subject: Errors upgrading 9,1-RELEASE to 9,3-RELEASE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 22:03:19 -0000 The following messages appeared when I ran freebsd-update to upgrade fron 9,1-RELEASE to 9,3-RELEASE. Is this any cause for concern? Installing updates...install: ///usr/src/contrib/bind9/libtool.m4 exists but is not a directory install: ///usr/src/contrib/bind9/libtool.m4/libtool.m4: Not a directory install: ///usr/src/contrib/bind9/libtool.m4/ltoptions.m4: Not a directory install: ///usr/src/contrib/bind9/libtool.m4/ltsugar.m4: Not a directory install: ///usr/src/contrib/bind9/libtool.m4/ltversion.m4: Not a directory -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 22:29:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 076E9758 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 22:29:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from IMAIL5.netenterprise.net (imail5.netenterprise.net [64.29.90.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA08B20BF for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 22:29:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ponolei.intra.net [72.235.61.32] by IMAIL5.netenterprise.net with ESMTP (SMTPD-12.3.0.100) id 89840004b0aab561; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:29:49 -1000 Message-ID: <53E3FDD3.5000501@hdk5.net> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 12:29:39 -1000 From: al plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: al plant , Warren Block , alplant@att.net, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: switch to DCHP from static ip (Success) References: <53DC43AA.8080509@hdk5.net> <53DC4D2D.8010501@hdk5.net> <20140802080340.GA18971@slackbox.erewhon.home> In-Reply-To: <20140802080340.GA18971@slackbox.erewhon.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 22:29:57 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 04:30:05PM -1000, al plant wrote: > >> Warren Block wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2014, al plant wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Aloha, >>>> >>>> The Telcom here in Honolulu has brought in FiberOptic lines in my >>>> neighborhood since the old copper was really bad speed. Cost was >>>> reduced and speed is now excellent. >>>> >>>> I need a how-to for moving an APSfilter print server on my static IP >>>> lan to working with a DHCP network. The Telcom installed a PACE >>>> wireless and told me I can add as many computers as I need using a >>>> Netgear Gigabit switch. >>>> >>>> I have installed one desktop on the switch and it has worked fine so >>>> far. >>>> >>>> I never ised DHCP befor so any help would be appreciated. >>>> >>>> /etc/rc.conf >>>> ------------- >>>> lpd_enable="YES" >>>> FreeBSD 8.* hostname="mano.intra.net" >>>> ifconfig-re0="192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0" >>>> >>>> -------------- >>>> For desktop I used > >>>> ifconfig-re0="DHCP" to replace IP address. I seems to find the >>>> network fine. Now I cant find any information about putting a print >>>> server on the lan. >>>> > > >>> Summary: continue to use a static IP address for the print server. >>> Just make sure that address is inside the same netblock as the DHCP >>> addresses, but preferably outside the range of dynamic addresses. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >>> > > >> The PACE box is on 192.168.200.1. >> >> I will check with Hawaii telcom for instructions on this unit. The mfg's >> website is very unhelpful. >> >> > > Home routers generally have a web server running on their internal network. > You can use it to check and change (parts of) the configuration such as DHCP. > So try pointing your browser to 192.168.200.1. More often than not the default > login name / password combination is admin / admin. > > Roland > ### Thanks to all for suggestions and guidance and examples. I have the hardwired FreeBSD printer and a couple of boxes up and working off the Pace Router. (along with 3 wireless "I pads" and MS lap top and 1 pc. ### Al ~ Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 ~ Supporting FreeBSD - UNIX Computer O/S email: noc@hdk5.net ."All that's really worth doing is what we do for others" - Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 01:54:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C620BFFC for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 01:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (shellworld.net [69.60.117.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4ECD25B6 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 01:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server1.shellworld.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server1.shellworld.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECF422957 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 21:54:56 -0400 (EDT) To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Legacy Images MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <48766.1407462895.1@server1.shellworld.net> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 20:54:56 -0500 From: "Martin G. McCormick" Message-Id: <20140808015456.0ECF422957@server1.shellworld.net> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 01:54:57 -0000 Michael Sierchio writes: > http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/9.1/ Thanks. I thought there was an archive so this is just what I needed to know. I would have found it eventually, but thanks for the help in finding it faster. Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 02:23:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6AA9269B for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 02:23:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x242.google.com (mail-pa0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FF362891 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 02:23:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f66.google.com with SMTP id lf10so3028815pab.5 for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 19:23:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject :message-id:date:to; bh=Mum2oWJ0TNJOLjDVFag8gXOg/KtnvXyiPBsu/rzHtDo=; b=tL/IuA/beAj6pQ4w50hVcYnJb3S7jG+0dSvDidSy4ySAxE/8ElxtyeAUP37pKUuXcH t4qU5c3WXRKFvbccrOuQcxRAFJpOTGMZSaKvM8rlmMsUGfLix1QCwImq0zK/x3Atfocs 9BnOCgoltC0nzhWujlQg/utGDdaycuA62q9RUbZCtKfcD78dcPITUmzyBrYtifN27R55 hsa4WP+MD6FkoLb11cHQpbPDX7mLjfKR6/STBGeLO07t3wQY3nRLkJ6KcerxsIbthHcu sGjcznCWooHbOwCMIgNVRX9fTl83/geq/SEIzQUxrG/qhapDHP/YfSyfPHZSEhw1vR/6 CAYw== X-Received: by 10.70.35.207 with SMTP id k15mr21151397pdj.5.1407464627816; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 19:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.103.145.246] (pw126255222071.9.panda-world.ne.jp. [126.255.222.71]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id kl1sm1218799pbd.31.2014.08.07.19.23.46 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Aug 2014 19:23:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve N Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Virtio_pci Problems Message-Id: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:23:45 +0900 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D257) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 02:23:48 -0000 Dear Experts,=20 I set up virtualized environment using Free BSD 9.2 as a guest OS on Linux H= ypervisor as a host and attempted to communicate using virtio_pci.=20 I have a couple of questions on this environment. 1) I'd like to know the degree of completion of virtio_pci driver. Are any p= roducts already offered in markets? If you know an example of some products i= n the marketplace using virtio_pci working on virtualized Free BSD with Linu= x hypervisor.=20 2) When I measured a transmission speed under the environment above, I got t= he results of 904 Mbps for TCP and 327 Mbps for UDP. I'd like to isolate the= cause of this issue. I mean this is caused either by my environment or by d= river's well-known problem. Have you ever experienced such a case that the p= erformance of UDP is much worse than that of TCP?=20 Thank you in advance for your support.=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 03:47:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57022912 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 03:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 385F5223B for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 03:47:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E78598CDC8; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 20:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8413A598CDB5; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 20:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 20:47:55 -0700 From: David Benfell To: "illoai@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Touchpad issues Message-ID: <20140808034755.GA98543@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140802223804.GA42137@home.parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 03:47:58 -0000 --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 12:22:34PM -0400, illoai@gmail.com wrote: >=20 > I strongly dislike xorg taking over the kernel r=F4le of > mediating hardware, so I don't have a HAL-ified xorg, > & I have > hw.psm.synaptics_support=3D1 > in my /boot/loader.conf > & I use the old, simple "Driver" "mouse" with /dev/sysmouse > (Options "Protocol" "auto"). Letting moused(8) > handle the plugging & unplugging of USB mousies > works fine & everything I need does what I need. >=20 > I'm not saying this is the best way to handle it, but it > does give edge scrolling & such, & a bunch of tunables > under hw.psm that I've never fiddled with. It's a bit > touchy for my taste, but dropping your wrists while > typing is a bad habit anyway. >=20 > I also don't know how well moused(8) works with a HAL- > ified xorg & hot-plugging USB mousies, I don't care to > test it. >=20 Do you allow hald to run at all? If so, how do you tell it to ignore the mouse? If not, am I overestimating the difficulty of dealing with hot-plugged USB devices? When I am on the road, I will sometimes plug a trackball mouse into the thing. It's *much* easier to deal with than the touchpad and it's USB. As for sensitivity, that's my problem. If my wrists are within six inches of that touchpad, horizontally, vertically, or diagonally, it's liable to move the cursor and sense a click. Text winds up getting typed in completely the wrong places--which is a real problem when you're a Ph.D. student writing 20-plus page tomes. To maybe--only maybe--limit this, I would have to type with my hands held vertically, which is unlikely to be healthier or preferable technique to letting your wrists drop. ;-) thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT5EhrAAoJEBV64x4SNmAr/6gP/0iwQasTHkTbHS+t5LovUugi xmr8EhTFIzcpFjpBFXAh7MGdViv7W+KHkUf0IVehlSMYl8D6P2SJXamufMbBDYKm 4Bdegn4/lZafNqW1Pe+y24L/Yc3/0VG/QNaadZLsDzk7ereZtEvrUSxP78shy2Sh m9ip0nyYbKX3scYwWsb+t1yAiWw7YvoUGKr1h2jYd+v5DSyLxn6N7pGJQoUhZ74O pPpn2+sAG+OLTkSDxq/BbWvxSUCZ3YCXv66OOQtv6U0YEnZ01c/bdexDlFr9QYv/ j1wEVCvyV3qYHTN90Md24G+r/3alsOS6/FwI+XBZG49oSc2lu2uZLGzgXvRpgT8g Ejbitr4BjWV3l6t1cxTZUcb1ruFSa6EFbaY9xOjjapzPqYStRnPqRjqqinwV+Wpw dm/o5ZDK0m/2vS6in8y5bAFkQm3AVgw4LCJ3OvaqM/20g+/2n7Vn0byiaBjHyPF6 hxhGmrHGF8W6hlL2sBEJ85bykkeAkJHFtuxCUth5DsQnGwWCFekLk3WCPC2k+5eh Tcv+VoWX4VSr/+6j2AJQVT/ND8jkopouSSARFjRNFn2d9c+OfspbS9D9la5eopkt wzeXgeBp/To9LgdB7HOTCNnq35sitnjI+bQEmSilkXfP6LIbsTvKEV8JTDSsyeVz pSCEnpzj29GjfXpbVth/ =ftAt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 04:59:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6512D692 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 04:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nlpiport08.prodigy.net.mx (nlpiport08.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6982887 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 04:59:38 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,822,1400043600"; d="scan'208";a="70228869" Received: from nlpiport04.prodigy.net.mx ([148.235.52.112]) by nlpiport08.prodigy.net.mx with ESMTP; 07 Aug 2014 23:54:29 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuEGAA9X5FO9qp2K/2dsb2JhbABagw2BKa14AQEBAgEGoGuFKAoBgRAXd4QEAQVWMwshExIPKh4ZiETEGReFfIlXFoQ1BYsWkQQBlHCDdx0v Received: from dsl-189-170-157-138-dyn.prod-infinitum.com.mx (HELO morena.maps.net) ([189.170.157.138]) by nlpiport04.prodigy.net.mx with SMTP; 07 Aug 2014 23:54:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 21:54:49 -0700 From: Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printcap configuration problem Message-ID: <20140807215449.135fac2d@morena.maps.net> In-Reply-To: <1406986762673-5934162.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1405676044178-5929730.post@n5.nabble.com> <53C919E0.6070008@bananmonarki.se> <20140718183958.1864052a@rsbsd.rsb> <20140727221419.35efb9b0@morena.maps.net> <1406966714419-5934110.post@n5.nabble.com> <1406986762673-5934162.post@n5.nabble.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; i386-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 04:59:39 -0000 El Sat, 02 Aug 2014 06:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Beeblebrox escribi=F3: >=20 > hp2100:lp:rm=3D192.168.1.9:rp=3Draw:\ > :if=3D/usr/local/libexec/filters/psif:\ > :lf=3D/var/log/lpd-errs:af=3D/var/spool/lpd/acct:\ > :sd=3D/var/spool/lpd/hp2100:\ > :mx=3D0:sh: >=20 If you are going to use foomatic, I recommend this entry in your /etc/printcap hp2100|lp|HP LaserJet 2100TN (foomatic):\ :tty.device=3D:remote.host=3D192.168.1.9:remote.queue=3Draw:\ :filt.input=3D/usr/local/bin/foomatic-rip:\ :spool.log=3D/var/spool/lpd/hp2100/filter-errors:\ :acct.file=3D/location/of/file/HP_LaserJet_2100.ppd:\ :spool.dir=3D/var/spool/lpd/hp2100:\ :max.blocks=3D0:banner.disable: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 06:02:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2B6DC24 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 06:02:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nlpiport16.prodigy.net.mx (nlpiport16.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A804F2EEE for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 06:02:17 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,823,1400043600"; d="scan'208";a="1003562181" Received: from nlpiport03.prodigy.net.mx ([148.235.52.111]) by nlpiport16.prodigy.net.mx with ESMTP; 08 Aug 2014 00:57:09 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuYGAE9l5FO9qp2K/2dsb2JhbABaFoJ3UleteAEBAQIBBp5VghaFKQkBgRAXd4QEAQQBVjMLIRMSDyoeBgESiDoKC8QcF4V8iVeESwWLFoodhmcBgVSTHIN3HS8B Received: from dsl-189-170-157-138-dyn.prod-infinitum.com.mx (HELO morena.maps.net) ([189.170.157.138]) by nlpiport03.prodigy.net.mx with SMTP; 08 Aug 2014 00:57:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 22:57:29 -0700 From: Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Beeblebrox Subject: Re: printcap configuration problem Message-ID: <20140807225729.69db80ef@morena.maps.net> In-Reply-To: <20140803083513.47e21f3b@rsbsd.rsb> References: <1405676044178-5929730.post@n5.nabble.com> <53C919E0.6070008@bananmonarki.se> <20140718183958.1864052a@rsbsd.rsb> <20140727221419.35efb9b0@morena.maps.net> <1406966714419-5934110.post@n5.nabble.com> <1406986762673-5934162.post@n5.nabble.com> <20140803083513.47e21f3b@rsbsd.rsb> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; i386-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 06:02:18 -0000 El Sun, 03 Aug 2014 08:35:13 +0300 Beeblebrox escribi=F3: > > Both cases are for use with a printer that understands PostScript=20 > > natively. A plain LaserJet 2100 does not, > Mine does, it's the 2100tn model, has native ps level-II > http://people.virginia.edu/~cavcomp2/printers/hp/2100/2100.htm >=20 If your printer support PS, you are 90% ready,most of the programs produce PS at the moment to print What are you printing? =46rom what program? >=20 > The ghostscript comment was referring to previous discussion - sorry > for the confusion: If I want to print in r: 300 x 300, the only way > that's going to happen is by sending it through ghostscript, if I > understand correctly? How could I modify psif so that "lpr -Php2100 > -r300 somefile.ps" would result in 1. check if ps 2. adjust for one > of available resolution options (300 OR 600). >=20 Careful, the command lpr -Php2100 -r300 somefile.ps might erase the file "somefile.ps", read the man of lpr -r Remove the file upon completion of spooling or upon completion of printing (with the -s option). It does not have a option for resolution LPR take a file and send to LPD and LPD spool the job in the spool directory, start the FILTER to process the job and send to the printer Since LPR only give the file to LPD LPD only handle the queue (spool) The FILTER is the only that can modify the job (file printed) To send options to the filter, you can use the option -Z of lpr -Z daemon-options Some spoolers, such as LPRng, accept additional per-job options using a `Z' control line. When -Z is specified, and -p (pr(1)) is not requested, the specified daemon-options will be passed to the remote LPRng spooler. But the filter need to take options from LPD control file (till here my explanation, since my point is, you need to read lpr manual to know what options can be used with lpr) If you make a program that understand 300dpi option, you can use the command lpr -Php2100 -Z300dpi somefile.ps You specify your filter (program) in the printcap file as if=3D/usr/local/libexec/filters/psif You should try apsfilter (is in ports), but I don remember that apsfilter accept option for resolution I am working in a input filter for LPR/LPD that accept most of CUPS options, if you want to try, let me know -HTH Martin Paredes From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 07:01:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43800F99 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 07:01:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x22a.google.com (mail-lb0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4589262E for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 07:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f170.google.com with SMTP id l4so1596317lbv.1 for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 00:01:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=fT7atPSIsdUFVrxhoqD2r5hQkHyYayIi6bRoVm2oftQ=; b=iF3QGqfsBgO7BGmnZoHxob8qQXuQX0AjNN2eTUJz+aPk9EU5PWkN9m9UM20jJVnh03 TuZ/AL9raM4vHNgFaFAjCYnz1Ey+fqfd602W3uVqhEQfOdiv3ec98g6V3D5h3soKitPr JJFgaYcR3mkWYEwETnD5avS4BC3WAE1NCjoFQiv86VnGlYvBvAIJBlseurj18L6OrK4b 1xzZ2Yxl336mgqleLuzEol8sjCdnEmUOtM/z0QwCFWuww4QT3WgUFLfPigMPSB73lmDc dOR9g7blT/RSJGKyA7FZl8gVHBX0r18F8ibkVr7jCruZI15s3y58Q77b12QewlXI3sAH 2igA== X-Received: by 10.112.198.34 with SMTP id iz2mr288390lbc.96.1407481274738; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 00:01:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.136.136 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 00:00:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 10:00:34 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: TCP/IP on the way out? To: questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 07:01:17 -0000 I trust that all is well with everyone. I have seen this article which sounds much like a dream, but seems true. http://www.networkworld.com/article/2459286/why-tcp/why-tcp/ip-is-on-the-way-out.html I'd love to hear the views of those who understand the network stack. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 07:06:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A174630 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 07:06:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69CA2268E for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 07:06:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:bennett@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s78765ua021725 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Fri, 8 Aug 2014 07:06:06 GMT Received: (from bennett@localhost) by sdf.org (8.14.8/8.12.8/Submit) id s78765xs022311; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 02:06:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201408080706.s78765xs022311@sdf.org> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 02:06:05 -0500 To: aberg010@my.hennepintech.edu Subject: Re: some ZFS questions References: <201408070816.s778G9ug015988@sdf.org> <53E3A836.9080904@my.hennepintech.edu> In-Reply-To: <53E3A836.9080904@my.hennepintech.edu> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 07:06:20 -0000 Andrew Berg wrote: > On 2014.08.07 03:16, Scott Bennett wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 03:49:37 -0500 Andrew Berg > > wrote: > >>On 2014.08.06 02:32, Scott Bennett wrote: > >>> I have a number of questions that I need answered before I go about > >>> setting up any raidz pools. They are in no particular order. > >>> > >>> 1) What is the recommended method of using geli encryption with > >>> ZFS? > >> > >>> Does one first create .eli devices and then specify those > >>> .eli devices in the zpool(8) command as the devices to include > >>> in the pool? > >>This. > > > > Oh. Well, that's doable, if not terribly convenient, but it brings up > > another question. After a reboot, for example, what does ZFS do while the > > array of .eli devices is being attached one by one? Does it see the first > > one attached without the others in sight and decide it has a failed pool? > Once you bring the .eli devices back online, zpool will see them and your pool > will be back online. Before then, it won't really do anything but tell you the > disks are not available and therefore, neither is your pool. The status of the > pool is 'unavailable', not 'faulted'. Okay. That's good. > > >>mercilessly thrash disks; standard reads and writes are given higher priority > >>in the scheduler than resilver and scrub operations. > > > > If two pools use different partitions on a drive and both pools are > > rebuilding those partitions at the same time, then how could ZFS *not* > > be hammering the drive? > A good reason not to setup your pools like that. Well, I need space for encrypted file systems and for unencrypted file systems at a roughly 1:3 ratio. I have four 2 TB drives for the purpose already, but apparently need at least two more. If zvol+geli+UFS is not the way and using multiple slices/partitions is not the way either, then how should I set it up? > > >>> 3) If a raidz2 or raidz3 loses more than one component, does one > >>> simply replace and rebuild all of them at once? Or is it necessary > >>> to rebuild them serially? In some particular order? > >>AFAIK, replacement of several disks can't be done in a single command, but I > >>don't think you need to wait for a resilver to finish on one before you can > >>replace another. > > > > That looks good. What happens if a "zpool replace failingdrive newdrive" > > is running when the failingdrive actually fails completely? > Assuming you don't trigger some race condition (which would be rare if you're > using decent controllers), nothing special. A disk doesn't need to be present > and functioning to be replaced. I see. I had gathered from the zpool(8) man page's two forms of the "replace" subcommand that the form shown above should be used if the failing disk were still somewhat usable, but that the other form should be used if the failing disk were already a failed disk. I figured from that that ZFS would try to get whatever it could from the failing disk and only recalculate from the rest for blocks that couldn't be read intact from the failing disk. If that is not the case, then why bother to have two forms of the "replace" subcommand? Wouldn't it just be simpler to unplug the failing drive, plug in the new drive, and then use the other form of the "replace" subcommand, in which case that would be the *only* form of the subcommand? In any case, that is why I was asking what would happen in the mid-rebuild failure situation. If both subcommands are effectively identical, then I guess it shouldn't be a big problem. > > >>> 5) When I upgrade to amd64, the usage would continue to be low- > >>> intensity as defined above. Will the 4 GB be enough? I will not > >>> be using the "deduplication" feature at all. > >>It will be enough unless you are managing tens of TB of data. I recommend > >>setting an ARC limit of 3GB or so. There is a patch that makes the ARC handle How does one set a limit? Is there an undocumented sysctl variable for it? > > > > 3 GB for ARC plus whatever is needed for FreeBSD would leave much room ^not > > for applications to run. Maybe I won't be able to use ZFS if it requires > > so vastly more page-fixed memory than UFS. :-( > 3GB is the hard limit here. If applications need more, they'll get it. The only > reason to set a limit at all is that the ARC currently has issues giving up > memory gracefully. As I said, there's a patch in discussion to fix it. Oh, okay. I misunderstood. I can deal with it being just an upper bound. However, no one seems to have tackled my original question 4) regarding "options KVA_PAGES=n". Care to take a stab at it? > > > One thing I ran across was the following from the zpool(8) man page. > > > > "For pools to be portable, you must give the zpool command whole > > disks, not just slices, so that ZFS can label the disks with portable > > EFI labels. Otherwise, disk drivers on platforms of different endian- > > ness will not recognize the disks." > Well, that is kind of confusing since slices != partitions and partitions > aren't mentioned. Using slices is also something someone would generally not do > with GPT. I'll look at that part of the man page and maybe bring it up on the While you're at it, take a gander also at the gpart(8) man page, wherein the list of partition types includes "freebsd", in which one uses bsdlabel(8) to create subpartitions (e.g., ada0p1b, where the bsdlabel could specify that as having a "swap" subpartition type or a pointless "vinum" subpartition type (see next), "freebsd-vinum", which is useless because gvinum(8) and GPT partitioning are mutually incompatible, "freebsd-zfs", which the man page says is for a "FreeBSD partition that contains a ZFS volume" (not a zpool!), and "mbr", which can then be subdivided into slices and the slices further subdivided by bsdlabels (think adap1s1b :-). > doc and fs MLs. > > > If I have one raidzN comprising .eli partitions and another raidzN comprising > > a set of unencrypted partitions on those same drives, will I be able to > > export both raidzN pools from a 9-STABLE system and then import them > > into, say, a 10-STABLE system on a different Intel amd64 machine? By your > > answer to question 1), it would seem that I need to have two raidzN pools, > > although there might be a number of benefits to having both encrypted and > > unencrypted file systems allocated inside a single pool were that an option. > Having any physical disk be a part of more than one pool is not recommended > (except perhaps for cache and log devices where failure is not a big deal). Not > only can it cause thrashing as you mentioned above, but one disk dying makes > both pools degraded. Lose two disks, and you lose both pools. If you need only If ZFS has no way to prevent thrashing in that situation, then that is a serious design deficiency in ZFS. > some things encrypted, perhaps something that works above the FS layer such as > PEFS would be a better option for you. Hmm. That doesn't look like PEFS will suffice. 1) It is not part of the FreeBSD base system and therefore, for something as fundamental as a file system, must be considered experimental. 2) Its documentation is even thinner that that available for ZFS. 3) What documentation I did find seems to suggest that PEFS may not conceal things like the fraction of the space currently in use, the directory structure (though the names are encrypted), and possibly some other things (e.g., file owner, group, permissions, size). Does that then leave me with just the zvol+geli+UFS way to proceed? I mean, I would love to be wealthy enough to throw thrice as many drives into this setup, but I'm not. I can get by with using a single set of drives for the two purposes that need protection against device failure and silent data corruption and then finding a smaller, cheaper drive or two for the remaining purposes, but devoting a whole set of drives to each purpose is not an option. If ZFS really needs to be used that way, then that is another serious design flaw, one nearly as bad as gvinum's insistence upon writing its entire configuration at the end of the physical disk instead of at the end of the GEOM device node given to it. Once again, thank you for the information you've provided. I'll get to the bottom of this stuff eventually with help from you and others on this list, I'm sure. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ********************************************************************** * Internet: bennett at sdf.org *xor* bennett at freeshell.org * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * * -- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 08:34:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03679362 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [108.92.93.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04D32086 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:34:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (static-71-177-216-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.177.216.148]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s788SLcW057375 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Aug 2014 01:28:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: TCP/IP on the way out? From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 01:28:20 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <94DD6882-7A24-443B-85BF-090416562120@lafn.org> References: To: Odhiambo Washington X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 08:34:20 -0000 On 8 August 2014, at 00:00, Odhiambo Washington = wrote: > I trust that all is well with everyone. >=20 > I have seen this article which sounds much like a dream, but seems = true. >=20 > = http://www.networkworld.com/article/2459286/why-tcp/why-tcp/ip-is-on-the-w= ay-out.html >=20 > I'd love to hear the views of those who understand the network stack. A quick reading indicates that the protocol is almost identical to the = IMP protocol used by ARPANET. It is more efficient of bandwidth and = redundant paths. However, TCP/IP won out simply because it is a very = simple protocol that works well and can be easily implemented in very = small devices. What the article doesn't address is the path = determination process. That is where the bulk of the code and overhead = will be found. ARPANET used a static network structure that required = re-loading of all IMPs when the network changed in order to keep the = overhead down to something manageable. IPv6 is somewhat of a compromise = in that area, but it still incurs significantly more overhead than IPv4. = IPX was much worse yet. We never could get a LAN with 100 workstations = to be useable, where we could easily put 200 on a LAN using IPv4. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 08:47:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE8F1706 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-x22f.google.com (mail-ie0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF75721AD for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id x19so5848085ier.6 for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 01:47:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=gGJQDiXUZR+YIKV+tdbi2K3zdG9dQZB09DMQTPdg2Rw=; b=DT4WbZEeK+DiY1W4jrU7KPKktEJtxPSRduzhtx95gypUEIBgSmK+5OSagMpPI/8IoR ewwFb28ytgpmSA/0KBqPxvN6e7C/kBpBmW/k9syVGwgXBCoxanpxInVyJFco9QG/GXKD 7hb65grgYXBGmQ/Xh4ZziUdK9BR6r7eD1UUaUz/dmhIvEz8ZF+ne7t0g0765TXbXTtv6 Me98yaDEyF7lnrP8+wKytCJDqv/txDvDSiJGIJid5xYtNMXJboaDuZ1oWnNHBnD0ZM6m qYWMNQyjvuOcnE4elQOhN+qEySBW/PG34bsOTOxoHxMoVD+H8I6NZwrYwJ+zGZSqFZRI Gzkw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.107.7 with SMTP id gy7mr2985778igb.15.1407487642080; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 01:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Sender: olivier2553@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.156.143 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 01:47:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 15:47:21 +0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: FfiwhRWazW5hGtRXJcQ5ea7aDcA Message-ID: Subject: Re: TCP/IP on the way out? From: Olivier Nicole To: Odhiambo Washington Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 08:47:23 -0000 Odhiambo, Well, on a first thought, if you get rid of TCP/IP, you get rid of Internet. Now one could conceive something to replace TCP, new protocols appears all the time. But IP is Internet, you can hardly get rid of it... or it will take ages to have some compatible solution, some bridges, etc. Until only the new solution is in use: think about all the existing routers, they use IP and are not compatible with any new system, so compatibility will have to be there for the next 10 or 20 years. See the example of IPv6: it has been there for 20 years or so, but is it being used? See the example of OSI? Never take off. Bests, Olivier On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I trust that all is well with everyone. > > I have seen this article which sounds much like a dream, but seems true. > > http://www.networkworld.com/article/2459286/why-tcp/why-tcp/ip-is-on-the-way-out.html > > I'd love to hear the views of those who understand the network stack. > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 09:05:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1B60E0E for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 09:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta005.mxout.tch.inty.net [91.221.169.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67C4E247C for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 09:05:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (unknown [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29F418D1A2 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 09:58:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta009.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta009.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5C81280CC; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 09:58:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta009.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta009.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D79D128089; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 09:58:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.254.7] (unknown [80.177.21.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta009.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 09:58:11 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <53E49129.2020806@sliderule.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 09:58:17 +0100 From: Steve Burton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Odhiambo Washington , questions Subject: Re: TCP/IP on the way out? References: In-Reply-To: X-MDF-HostID: 22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 09:05:10 -0000 On 08/08/2014 08:00, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I trust that all is well with everyone. > > I have seen this article which sounds much like a dream, but seems true. > > http://www.networkworld.com/article/2459286/why-tcp/why-tcp/ip-is-on-the-way-out.html > > I'd love to hear the views of those who understand the network stack. > > My favourite part of the article is: "The key to the process, they say, is a network coding and decoding element called RLNC, or Random Linear Network Coding. RLNC is the technology that they've patented and wrapped into C++ software at Steinwurf called Kodo. Steinwurf plans to sell its technology to hardware makers." Steve. 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Thanks, Julien --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --g7w8+K/95kPelPD2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAABCgAGBQJT5K2EAAoJEAi2KiTKQR5pq/kP/RgN/yFD8cQyEpEvNY6Vc551 MPgtiXL91fQoIBrSes6G9hmUTqU99/w6K1bVYGIOcsu4T138Cl+p8oU3o3nTJM1D bpgRV7q/dAU0SLj/eptB6EJmMndFXrpszvl6KK2x8UKHK0bxGzNnxuF7cvBrCsyN IXysYHAwt7HjB6gtsIwyLLjbt9hOlkuhRsNF1aKmEBgBkR+yodVmnR/9Bs2M+YIF rG+b0F/5jYBBZ/3L22lDjqgAQtG/AA8ADuHep8C4B2IjSY9cEv9nZi9MEHlDjofC Da8t4fyBnHyrgkNanr/3+O7XNwWzLKX0YAtkjNXn+NJiHhzAsFChAkIxuB6nJ53A 5IHT8d+JHB9QMQOcYJqnW9nZxc/hm1xkmwKLUCjwf+ra/giGKvkHVyjBA6F8rep0 P/4c6lxRiPrK2TgVJy0QXHDSrEhVx83ItRuxzM5oCQj5GDZJKatk7vojkiT5pl2p vv2HluJmjl8GegUHL2dQCu2svpZFgOORxrvDkOeZxyiwqL8UeWs6vxX7gdMbRuED KJDIjQuh7zIJa8y/mA3xtc2C0VtpU8doxaKaGTHWNC7feBnCEv3PTX7DqtKvCWcy YNxDTsS5cOoPnhRuy5l0YrWQ4ZZBc0ai4jGjrAp0/p3NVSKlm3eypicR/Y7CvPki 1tj0pFkWPiUnbSu0Sep5 =ErZL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --g7w8+K/95kPelPD2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 11:16:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E62E705 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:16:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAB6522C6 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s78BFuf2004358; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:15:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <53E4B16C.2070109@qeng-ho.org> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 12:15:56 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Burton , Odhiambo Washington , questions Subject: Re: TCP/IP on the way out? References: <53E49129.2020806@sliderule.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <53E49129.2020806@sliderule.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 11:16:07 -0000 On 08/08/2014 09:58, Steve Burton wrote: > On 08/08/2014 08:00, Odhiambo Washington wrote: >> I trust that all is well with everyone. >> >> I have seen this article which sounds much like a dream, but seems true. >> >> http://www.networkworld.com/article/2459286/why-tcp/why-tcp/ip-is-on-the-way-out.html >> >> >> I'd love to hear the views of those who understand the network stack. >> >> > My favourite part of the article is: > > "The key to the process, they say, is a network coding and decoding > element called RLNC, or Random Linear Network Coding. RLNC is the > technology that they've patented and wrapped into C++ software at > Steinwurf called Kodo. Steinwurf plans to sell its technology to > hardware makers." If anyone writing an application wants something like this they can probably code up their own transport protocol using raptor codes over UDP and get 90% of the benefits without having to persuade people that replacing the network stacks of 8-10 billion(*) devices connected to the net is a good idea, economically feasible and can be achieved in a way that doesn't fragment the network for months or years on end. It's rarely the technology that decides anything, it's the economics and politics. That's a lesson most techies seem to have to learn the hard way. (*) Figure taken from http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2013/01/07/how-many-things-are-currently-connected-to-the-internet-of-things-iot/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 11:54:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0F349F2 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8065E2751 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:54:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:bennett@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s78BrYbc019909 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:53:34 GMT Received: (from bennett@localhost) by sdf.org (8.14.8/8.12.8/Submit) id s78BrXoX011819; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 06:53:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201408081153.s78BrXoX011819@sdf.org> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 06:53:33 -0500 To: Trond Endrest?l , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 531, Issue 6 References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 11:54:46 -0000 On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:33:09 +0200 (CEST) Trond Endrest?l wrote: >On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 03:16-0500, Scott Bennett wrote: >> On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 03:49:37 -0500 Andrew Berg >> wrote: >> >On 2014.08.06 02:32, Scott Bennett wrote: >> >> >> >> [much deleted --SB] >> >> >> >> 2) How does one start or stop a pool? >> >That depends on what you mean by 'start' and 'stop'. I am guessing by what you >> >described that you mean 'import' and 'export'. I'm not sure how to prevent >> >> Oh. Okay. At least there is some way to accomplish the same thing. >> >> >automatic import for pools that were imported on the same system and not >> >exported prior to shutdown, but I am sure it can be done. Resilvering does not >> >> Maybe someone else will say how it can be done. >> >> >mercilessly thrash disks; standard reads and writes are given higher priority >> >in the scheduler than resilver and scrub operations. >> >> If two pools use different partitions on a drive and both pools are >> rebuilding those partitions at the same time, then how could ZFS *not* >> be hammering the drive? > >Why would you place multiple pools on the very same drives? Because I need about 1/4 of my usable data space on those drives to be encrypted and the other 3/4 to be unencrypted, I need (according to another respondent) to build my raidzN pool from .eli components and the rest from unencrypted components. > >The only real world example I can think of is having separately >mirrored boot and root pools using the same drives. See above. > >E.g., bootpool using ada0p2 and ada1p2 as its mirrors, and rootpool >using adap0p3 and ada1p3 as its mirrors, with ada0p1 and ada1p1 being >the gpt boot partitions, and possibly with swap partitions on ada0p4 >and ada1p4. > Those low-space-requiring uses are also good examples of why a multiterabyte drive might need to be divided into different partitions with only some of them dedicated to ZFS. I had hoped to put some small partitions in between the large ones for other uses, too. Scott Bennett, Comm. 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John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 12:14:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A55D41F3 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relaygateway01.edpnet.net (relaygateway01.edpnet.net [212.71.1.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C02F296B for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:14:19 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Am0GALy95FNNbXB9/2dsb2JhbABagw1SV4J3yXKHTAGBFRd3hAMBAQQBIwQvMwsYCRMOAgIPBSWIcQyvSZBjhSAXj1MWgmM2gRwFlTeGbQGUcoNZOy8 X-IPAS-Result: Am0GALy95FNNbXB9/2dsb2JhbABagw1SV4J3yXKHTAGBFRd3hAMBAQQBIwQvMwsYCRMOAgIPBSWIcQyvSZBjhSAXj1MWgmM2gRwFlTeGbQGUcoNZOy8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,824,1400018400"; d="scan'208";a="268586630" Received: from 77.109.112.125.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net (HELO mordor.lan) ([77.109.112.125]) by relaygateway01.edpnet.net with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 08 Aug 2014 13:44:56 +0200 Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:14:12 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: pf redirection Message-ID: <20140808121412.GE53032@mordor.lan> References: <20140808105916.GD53032@mordor.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vmttodhTwj0NAgWp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140808105916.GD53032@mordor.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 12:14:20 -0000 --vmttodhTwj0NAgWp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 12:59:16PM +0200, Julien Cigar wrote: > Hello, >=20 > With the following: https://dpaste.de/f5XY/raw , any idea why my telnet > doesn't work (timeout) .. ? it seems to work with an additional NAT rule: nat on $int_if from $localnet to $localnet -> $int_if >=20 > Thanks, > Julien >=20 > --=20 > Julien Cigar > Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) > PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 > No trees were killed in the creation of this message. > However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. 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Fri, 08 Aug 2014 05:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.186.196 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 05:36:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140808034755.GA98543@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140802223804.GA42137@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140808034755.GA98543@home.parts-unknown.org> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:36:35 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Touchpad issues From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: David Benfell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 12:36:38 -0000 On 7 August 2014 23:47, David Benfell wrote: > On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 12:22:34PM -0400, illoai@gmail.com wrote: >> >> I strongly dislike xorg taking over the kernel r=C3=B4le of >> mediating hardware, so I don't have a HAL-ified xorg, >> & I have >> hw.psm.synaptics_support=3D1 >> in my /boot/loader.conf >> & I use the old, simple "Driver" "mouse" with /dev/sysmouse >> (Options "Protocol" "auto"). Letting moused(8) >> handle the plugging & unplugging of USB mousies >> works fine & everything I need does what I need. >> >> I'm not saying this is the best way to handle it, but it >> does give edge scrolling & such, & a bunch of tunables >> under hw.psm that I've never fiddled with. It's a bit >> touchy for my taste, but dropping your wrists while >> typing is a bad habit anyway. >> >> I also don't know how well moused(8) works with a HAL- >> ified xorg & hot-plugging USB mousies, I don't care to >> test it. >> > Do you allow hald to run at all? If so, how do you tell it to ignore > the mouse? If not, am I overestimating the difficulty of dealing with > hot-plugged USB devices? > > When I am on the road, I will sometimes plug a trackball mouse into > the thing. It's *much* easier to deal with than the touchpad and it's > USB. > > As for sensitivity, that's my problem. If my wrists are within six > inches of that touchpad, horizontally, vertically, or diagonally, it's > liable to move the cursor and sense a click. Text winds up getting > typed in completely the wrong places--which is a real problem when > you're a Ph.D. student writing 20-plus page tomes. > > To maybe--only maybe--limit this, I would have to type with my hands > held vertically, which is unlikely to be healthier or preferable > technique to letting your wrists drop. ;-) > No HAL at all (you have to build xorg-server from ports). I also have hald_enable=3D"NO" (& dbus_enable=3D"NO") set in /etc/rc.conf because I simply dislike those abominations. moused(8), handles USB mousies just fine for my purposes. Set up basically just like https://wiki.freebsd.org/SynapticsTouchpad The default min_pressure of 16 has worked okay for a couple of years, it only reacts when my palm actually brushes the touchpad. --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 12:39:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2723B7E for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:39:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x236.google.com (mail-we0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 700602BD4 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:39:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k48so5582753wev.41 for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 05:39:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=mcbyuOBuXoiznUiegnpXTaK3liTb9IP5ydXznR04pYw=; b=VZGl/6vfE3mGVVNLPmPM1NsRnjq5S0s+ciJopbKa7j58h3uWYBuU6Kl2FWilb01CtH FSFU7mF/M1rkKgxp0bMOdXYLmxOCkptBnO9xWHvIDtRmcqc/oAr9PiWHUnqqZRwJDvjt z8bKJMPrnza0v+L4EkyEBPDMkMxJT6BBR3zHd+QxyHi/j+UeFXb0g752diMXAbLdlXgN VNX6qfuPLSwtdxp8q62lE9VCbYFPe6vldOHXi9UjXimS+8kjVFREloTlUNETdPCBC2l4 zrmHS/n2aamRkQhQhjv/c9ZjDcKWU3khzxHJzAv+7gYue+N/z6Hot9Flhij3jQQ9Fy8w hEjQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.37.77 with SMTP id w13mr3919937wij.78.1407501574852; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 05:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.186.196 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 05:39:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:39:34 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: TCP/IP on the way out? From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Odhiambo Washington Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 12:39:36 -0000 On 8 August 2014 03:00, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I trust that all is well with everyone. > > I have seen this article which sounds much like a dream, but seems true. > > http://www.networkworld.com/article/2459286/why-tcp/why-tcp/ip-is-on-the-way-out.html > > I'd love to hear the views of those who understand the network stack. > IPX/SPX will revolutionize how you view LANs! -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 13:27:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 215FDF87 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 13:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0343A2270 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 13:27:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D1F598CDCF for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 06:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DF801598CDCC; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 06:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 06:27:35 -0700 From: David Benfell To: freebsd-questions Subject: it keeps crashing and I don't know why Message-ID: <20140808132735.GA2102@home.parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jRHKVT23PllUwdXP" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 13:27:43 -0000 --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, This is on my new server. I seem to have made a couple mistakes that I know about. First, I followed the default installation in only creating a 4GB swap partition. It has 16GB of memory. I'm not getting crash dumps. (Not that I have any idea how to deal with a crash dump once I have one.) Second, I went to 10/stable rather than sticking with 10/release. 10/stable seems fine (except for booting) on my notebook. But I have no idea why this server keeps crashing. It does not crash at predictable intervals. It will sometimes go several hours without crashing. Sometimes it only goes a few minutes. The network seems somehow involved. Sometimes--not always--it will hang rather than reboot. When it does this, it also hangs the network for everybody who's on it, not just the server itself. All I have to do is unplug the ethernet cable and plug it back in: Then it will--I guess--do its panic and reboot. But there is no clue that I know where to find in the logs. It's ugly. Databases get corrupted. Sometimes fsck needs to be run manually. Also, ipfw doesn't start properly and I have to run the script manually. This baby can't be left unattended. I'm thinking I need 1) to revert to release; and 2) increase the swap allocation. The latter would entail shrinking the root partition to allow for an increase in the swap partition (this is GPT). This requires a reinstallation, right? --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT5NBHAAoJEBV64x4SNmAr7+8QAIpFqHUiM/y4MTs9s5hZZFgv sbDbJAAMHk64TaZAagZVdS40MyAk6/yTnHgbwW3f+hfLUDSRKYoo7hD+Q6gITeUd /rYG8FuaGqaG25wAztN3ZJS2Gapuf58GTloolaUEyXQm3PreINdZwIjRle3gbzWf 8FVMKous1FmgMUrQfrpbqVA1tus0+QrSouf8VarJmQ0vGaIA2h6dSK46jMZ8UZfo A6N+i6StQq3HzTUtst79+3vhubksQa3RPVOhkffMxsrJY2/TocfEQ/xIPZUJ1FXs zGVvYpe0ErLmozMJtmhObVvlH6XhNbdynuTSyZyQK1qsdfpn6u3UYdfTU6vw+aU4 qnL/63Zj0JiPjhHUVJaqBv/3Zx5NWkyV1G4VcRfOUbMhozfIqktIEd8wGD8i/H1D gC8lAxQ12plEyL9EU5njtFfHLjc8+Dj1Rj4Th5oyM+td9LgKuewiSGHV8bj4nLqP nWT2MmrTmoRngbAxMg9A8t1m3DddBWGPShsAdaN+OaBLKqSRkMPyasghhZU3n6io ASgubSv4+dRep6CnfQDBwjqj66NdfB5HPUL3x9sZjAdj5o33Rrby7mmcAYsqJdjZ 6rR0VP+DXzV3cBk3+enFtDbujR84WOvKvVWSbR6vlM3ffpkIswIhYr7x5BBS/Ofa 2v/OSagCmCX1xu2wuIcu =dZdw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 13:35:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B65D0539; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 13:35:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay06.ispgateway.de (smtprelay06.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75DBB2459; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 13:35:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [80.67.16.112] (helo=webmail.df.eu) by smtprelay06.ispgateway.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1XFkJT-0005iZ-BP; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 15:34:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 15:34:31 +0200 From: Markus Hoenicka To: David Benfell Subject: Re: it keeps crashing and I don't know why In-Reply-To: <20140808132735.GA2102@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140808132735.GA2102@home.parts-unknown.org> Message-ID: <524f159823ff336519ca97c9b2b57bed@mhoenicka.de> X-Sender: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail X-Df-Sender: bWFya3VzLmhvZW5pY2thQG1ob2VuaWNrYS5kZQ== Cc: freebsd-questions , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 13:35:31 -0000 At 2014-08-08 15:27, David Benfell was heard to say: > Hi all, > > This is on my new server. I seem to have made a couple mistakes that I > know about. > > First, I followed the default installation in only creating a 4GB swap > partition. It has 16GB of memory. I'm not getting crash dumps. (Not > that I have any idea how to deal with a crash dump once I have one.) > > Second, I went to 10/stable rather than sticking with 10/release. > 10/stable seems fine (except for booting) on my notebook. But I have > no idea why this server keeps crashing. > > It does not crash at predictable intervals. It will sometimes go > several hours without crashing. Sometimes it only goes a few minutes. > > The network seems somehow involved. Sometimes--not always--it will > hang rather than reboot. When it does this, it also hangs the network > for everybody who's on it, not just the server itself. All I have to > do is unplug the ethernet cable and plug it back in: Then it will--I > guess--do its panic and reboot. > > But there is no clue that I know where to find in the logs. It's ugly. > Databases get corrupted. Sometimes fsck needs to be run manually. > > Also, ipfw doesn't start properly and I have to run the script > manually. This baby can't be left unattended. > > I'm thinking I need 1) to revert to release; and 2) increase the swap > allocation. The latter would entail shrinking the root partition to > allow for an increase in the swap partition (this is GPT). > > This requires a reinstallation, right? Are you sure the hardware is ok? I'd first stick in a live CD or thumb drive of whatever OS you can get hold of and see what happens before blaming FreeBSD for these failures. Bad memory may cause similar symptoms. just my 2cc Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 13:53:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1C8299B for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 13:53:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bein.link (unknown [IPv6:2a02:2770:3:0:21a:4aff:fee6:9061]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2F125E2 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 13:53:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from quad.localnet (unknown [172.16.32.6]) by bein.link (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7929040339; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 15:53:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Maxim V FIlimonov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: it keeps crashing and I don't know why Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 17:53:24 +0400 Message-ID: <5977479.X3zZlsES59@quad> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.5 (FreeBSD/10.0-RELEASE; KDE/4.12.5; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20140808132735.GA2102@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140808132735.GA2102@home.parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: David Benfell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 13:53:27 -0000 On Friday 08 August 2014 06:27:35 David Benfell wrote: > Hi all, > > This is on my new server. I seem to have made a couple mistakes that I > know about. > > First, I followed the default installation in only creating a 4GB swap > partition. It has 16GB of memory. I'm not getting crash dumps. (Not > that I have any idea how to deal with a crash dump once I have one.) > > Second, I went to 10/stable rather than sticking with 10/release. > 10/stable seems fine (except for booting) on my notebook. But I have > no idea why this server keeps crashing. > > It does not crash at predictable intervals. It will sometimes go > several hours without crashing. Sometimes it only goes a few minutes. > > The network seems somehow involved. Sometimes--not always--it will > hang rather than reboot. When it does this, it also hangs the network > for everybody who's on it, not just the server itself. All I have to > do is unplug the ethernet cable and plug it back in: Then it will--I > guess--do its panic and reboot. > > But there is no clue that I know where to find in the logs. It's ugly. > Databases get corrupted. Sometimes fsck needs to be run manually. > > Also, ipfw doesn't start properly and I have to run the script > manually. This baby can't be left unattended. > > I'm thinking I need 1) to revert to release; and 2) increase the swap > allocation. The latter would entail shrinking the root partition to > allow for an increase in the swap partition (this is GPT). > > This requires a reinstallation, right? I had a similar problem: it gave a kernel panic at random moments. Packages got corrupted and so on. I ran memtest86+ and it found that all of my memory was broken. So I recommend to check the memory as it was said above. if you happen to check the memory, please wait till test 7: it might give you most of the errors. -- wbr, Maxim Filimonov che@bein.link From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 13:53:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50296A25; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 13:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34A4125F0; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 13:53:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0721B598CDCC; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 06:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E0AB8598CDB5; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 06:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 06:53:57 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Markus Hoenicka Subject: Re: it keeps crashing and I don't know why Message-ID: <20140808135357.GA392@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140808132735.GA2102@home.parts-unknown.org> <524f159823ff336519ca97c9b2b57bed@mhoenicka.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <524f159823ff336519ca97c9b2b57bed@mhoenicka.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: freebsd-questions , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 13:53:59 -0000 --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 03:34:31PM +0200, Markus Hoenicka wrote: >=20 > Are you sure the hardware is ok? No, I'm not sure. But if (see below) you think the memory is bad, it seems to me that some Linux live CDs at least used to include a memory test. > I'd first stick in a live CD or thumb=20 > drive of whatever OS you can get hold of and see what happens before=20 > blaming FreeBSD for these failures. Bad memory may cause similar=20 > symptoms. Anything else I can reasonably test while I"m on that live CD? --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT5NZ1AAoJEBV64x4SNmArEoQP/0Al6KRSIQGJ+lyRdhnE2rLJ wcYFVb19uDTblKkumjhrCXq9/hb7Oc8/fc1PpICKkQkDoE/7h5QKVjiIs6u5fT0/ iEocKQ8FoeSqp+s5SoxyQ9Kj1MAFK6D0TBzTYElZnmhcRnAErcNpEPgsb2/S4Q6I m120vCKMz4Nt7G0tCad9j7dpcuNUvAr6Op62OBI8WIccANrjPhhU0ZRMm6kk/xR3 eMQA3m1DvsIKG1CXsdlTeI/EAbMQz9XMs3clgUjTLq8lJvkT8OHItDYJJTtBZ1m7 syvKG9tHL5kQZ0aqJhzQQtttMJF7LhxCslnH83Cklc5vfZpszhcCmLtQdtojGOuM WTX/eGXzxpdzAlDbHQZUR3w7iq28Qexr/tI/mVKlUwlCGN9Gi0DqH6oKQuIs2HfC srrTzM2iFtS3jZ3oDLdrYMigkHvi5ki46mANgwmKp/ylIEqklk34VRW3RD2l5cEN SqwTiVdQytkT2mhdrokmlPTRnh9Ek3RihEcvNMbCzf0Ims9Rz0AfX8bgteL//P4y o/iqoxFwdBUstZV1ntQoyMlIiAJ+iiZ+D1FNiNpsXV+CUpbY5Cf6IzuBquiHEgz5 zL077dJIgj5LMuXo8NI76ortacQeSL8RdRsvnix7WJdJ5kFhg8oWrgMzLFdj9dEG fC/KLOwEgC6EJpPD0MuB =gibG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 14:00:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3104CB15; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay06.ispgateway.de (smtprelay06.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.95]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E549D262E; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [80.67.16.112] (helo=webmail.df.eu) by smtprelay06.ispgateway.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1XFkib-0000wl-1y; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 16:00:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 16:00:29 +0200 From: Markus Hoenicka To: David Benfell Subject: Re: it keeps crashing and I don't know why In-Reply-To: <20140808135357.GA392@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140808132735.GA2102@home.parts-unknown.org> <524f159823ff336519ca97c9b2b57bed@mhoenicka.de> <20140808135357.GA392@home.parts-unknown.org> Message-ID: <809311aa7e3c0e025ffd98fc1bd0f209@mhoenicka.de> X-Sender: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail X-Df-Sender: bWFya3VzLmhvZW5pY2thQG1ob2VuaWNrYS5kZQ== Cc: freebsd-questions , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 14:00:32 -0000 At 2014-08-08 15:53, David Benfell was heard to say: > On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 03:34:31PM +0200, Markus Hoenicka wrote: >> >> Are you sure the hardware is ok? > > No, I'm not sure. But if (see below) you think the memory is bad, it > seems to me that some Linux live CDs at least used to include a memory > test. > >> I'd first stick in a live CD or thumb >> drive of whatever OS you can get hold of and see what happens before >> blaming FreeBSD for these failures. Bad memory may cause similar >> symptoms. > > Anything else I can reasonably test while I"m on that live CD? Well, if memory corruption is a possible source of your problems, you'd better run memtest as Maxim suggested. Some Linux live CDs contain it anyway, see e.g. Knoppix. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 14:20:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78AF22CF for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm40-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm40-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C24F288C for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm40.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2014 14:18:36 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.230] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Aug 2014 14:18:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1039.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 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Fri, 08 Aug 2014 07:18:36 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, SGF2ZSB5b3UgdHJpZWQgZGlzYWJsaW5nIGxvZ2dpbmc_wqAKQXQgbGVhc3QgaXQgY2FuIGhlbHAgcmVkdWNpbmcgdGhlIGxvYWQuCgoKT24gVGh1cnNkYXksIEF1Z3VzdCA3LCAyMDE0IDI6MTIgUE0sIE5vcm1hbiBLaGluZSA8bm9ybWFuQGtoaW5lLm5ldD4gd3JvdGU6CiAKCgpoZWxsbywgaSBoYXZlIGEgd2ViIGFwcGxpY2F0aW9uIHJ1bm5pbmcgMyBqYWlsIGVudmlyb25tZW50cyBvbmUgZm9yIE5naW54CldlYiBzZXJ2ZXIsIG9uZSBmb3IgTW9uZ29EQi9SZWRpcyBhbmQgb25lIGZvciBteSBOb2RlLmpzIGEBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.198.689 References: Message-ID: <1407507516.17973.YahooMailNeo@web160705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 07:18:36 -0700 From: Laszlo Danielisz Reply-To: Laszlo Danielisz Subject: Re: correctly configuring PF with jailed environments To: Norman Khine , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 14:20:57 -0000 Have you tried disabling logging?=A0=0AAt least it can help reducing the lo= ad.=0A=0A=0AOn Thursday, August 7, 2014 2:12 PM, Norman Khine wrote:=0A =0A=0A=0Ahello, i have a web application running 3 jail env= ironments one for Nginx=0AWeb server, one for MongoDB/Redis and one for my = Node.js application=0A=0Athis is my current pf.conf file=0A=0Ahttps://gist.= github.com/nkhine/d03ea23a749c47bcc4d0=0A=0Athis works, as there is no acce= ss to my node app nor any of the dbs from=0Apublic interfaces.=0A=0Athe rul= es come out as=0A=0A# pfctl -s rules=0Ascrub out log on igb0 all random-id = min-ttl 15 set-tos 0x1c fragment=0Areassemble=0Ascrub in log on igb0 all mi= n-ttl 15 fragment reassemble=0Ascrub in all fragment reassemble=0A=0Ai find= that on my webserver i get timeouts and the applicationd does not=0Aload u= p quickly!=0A=0Aalso, are there any improvements i can make to this as to e= nsure a more=0Asecure environment?=0A=0Aany advice much appreciated=0A=0A--= =0A%>>> "".join( [ {'*':'@','^':'.'}.get(c,None) or chr(97+(ord(c)-83)%26)= for=0Ac in ",adym,*)&uzq^zqf" ] )=0A______________________________________= _________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freeb= sd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail t= o "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 14:27:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64F3C54B for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:27:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E56228F9 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B749598CDCC; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 07:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6CC0D598CDB5; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 07:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 07:27:38 -0700 From: David Benfell To: "illoai@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Touchpad issues Message-ID: <20140808142738.GA99074@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140802223804.GA42137@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140808034755.GA98543@home.parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 14:27:39 -0000 --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 08:36:35AM -0400, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > On 7 August 2014 23:47, David Benfell wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 12:22:34PM -0400, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > >> > >> I strongly dislike xorg taking over the kernel r=F4le of > >> mediating hardware, so I don't have a HAL-ified xorg, > >> & I have > >> hw.psm.synaptics_support=3D1 > >> in my /boot/loader.conf > >> & I use the old, simple "Driver" "mouse" with /dev/sysmouse > >> (Options "Protocol" "auto"). Letting moused(8) > >> handle the plugging & unplugging of USB mousies > >> works fine & everything I need does what I need. > >> > No HAL at all (you have to build xorg-server from ports). I also have > hald_enable=3D"NO" (& dbus_enable=3D"NO") set in /etc/rc.conf because > I simply dislike those abominations. moused(8), handles USB mousies > just fine for my purposes. >=20 > Set up basically just like https://wiki.freebsd.org/SynapticsTouchpad > The default min_pressure of 16 has worked okay for a couple of > years, it only reacts when my palm actually brushes the touchpad. >=20 Okay, thanks! I will give all this a try. --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT5N5aAAoJEBV64x4SNmArzZoQAInddSkZdb0xP/syhT5En4BU m6ss7oPesu4TJk+muLHzMv7jfHsx9WsSsTKwmfTvft3lNQhGSbVk/CCNdpBlFp08 1Rf7xcOB+DJL4yyvT86x3s/UtLU063C97ZfT/OHEqQZuimV3yRT93iohPr7OMcGN pe69Lc50f3pfTDWOp5c2dEwoQv6Tj/U5pvmdaCxPzgnk3ng67AIOIZwSrkRt0QlN 3Uwzwqgvk8pzY9VccnFhsxNSN+5lTeIHPXEl0GdKsG+VqH714DshzT382rI3OYKU x6gd9jc6W7YIGcu8229w0uuiNXPmDPpAjBEEJuQYMTHqLazO1IaAg9OsdMqI+ReE L/drWBzATGgT9wVDnby0KhUOait/N18wH1O84EVLvvpdQGAtBsdEPymBk/2iPg1q UU56VRan4MK9HtJzln9XGczc313qHcFBpW1DG/+pkAOt/Y2O/cGQZhL415aijuXf 0RSv6z2u+6PJzmT+UW/ncWedjlPxLCrzqEpYhw0MHzzIwdV5cS0k5AATjBXbZmke nIOQAQSL4LZJjhdvdpGjv2WAhDL6UI8Wkjslhsss7hUZyykN17Wtofcc3Z9Bt8k0 /b2Jf6u3hlg3cAXFOmknWrEXPCFby/bG7bMq4UNUi3HGO+C4pRvkuoYTu63PQy7G 4Rz3Xscf2PvJOKCT2Ufq =GuYD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 14:31:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94256623; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75D3729DA; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81427598CDCC; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 07:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 67A96598CDB5; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 07:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 07:31:35 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Markus Hoenicka Subject: Re: it keeps crashing and I don't know why Message-ID: <20140808143135.GB99074@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140808132735.GA2102@home.parts-unknown.org> <524f159823ff336519ca97c9b2b57bed@mhoenicka.de> <20140808135357.GA392@home.parts-unknown.org> <809311aa7e3c0e025ffd98fc1bd0f209@mhoenicka.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <809311aa7e3c0e025ffd98fc1bd0f209@mhoenicka.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: freebsd-questions , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 14:31:36 -0000 --tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 04:00:29PM +0200, Markus Hoenicka wrote: >=20 > Well, if memory corruption is a possible source of your problems, you'd= =20 > better run memtest as Maxim suggested. Some Linux live CDs contain it=20 > anyway, see e.g. Knoppix. >=20 I think Maxim was pointing to something even more convenient. Memtester is a port, found in sysutils. I'm running it now. Maybe the system will stay up long enough for it to complete.... Thanks! --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT5N9HAAoJEBV64x4SNmAr8jEP/ijBhGj5fdzH35LEspauy9wS 7Ntrpbp9UPSWugWUFslUlr0v7AB1QNk2aN/avA3c9G4hn0Q6XAs/JXzwd+6IcCVx ro9HrlC1zgn0sZDUvkFry0I9vKYTWM9fmv+b+hYZs6iGZu65JkpIbRRPJSfIgTxy O0mey2wDDDO5L2elVIcbBHfHtU8iT7O+Ot0rtO8Pghc9edELH2yCxMki4MH/Ewv5 gHx2G42LzUr5D3s/ECcFpb0RajtkbBfpxzxvArNY4v1lr1HSDP7teH1cqdteiFCA 8pH+DZVeC0hfhrwlGgXSQm8ZkclLX0nVHzcM0NJuAhHsFcchV299SlaQyISiDhqn 1yVXttn/YRpWdP/g8CyL/MRIv8t5jxroZuYCA2NO4qArrdrPn4tehS5mfhBT7h6h AUFbtUNAJ1vxYVvg2oGoHqEe/OtCOR3nDAidNWZnpp9UpYaRp1n4MLbJFcJFBS8M WVAyBfre5Umaw38U1lKCpXgNLgrRnhtMbQF7bR9ZXtmikfKQkIF+9F7ldRjKOabO 2bQqaK/6Y9rreAwzJ5+JK8AhRLkftedBVAVN8eb0YfNwvOSvcH0hnbCIlUtNMsL6 cPD/42GHLS/TBSE+jorcP94H/bGyyTfNfBkPqVGred0OYhHyLStBq+JcFgFAweKj YKBqVxPp+cPH/JaZDOE4 =rht5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 14:32:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DFA56C2 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:32:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.pchotshots.com (mail.pchotshots.com [12.172.123.237]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36ABF29EF for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:32:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 33488 invoked by uid 89); 8 Aug 2014 14:31:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?12.172.123.228?) (bmettee@pchotshots.com@12.172.123.228) by mail.pchotshots.com with ESMTPA; 8 Aug 2014 14:31:43 -0000 Message-ID: <53E4DEB7.7070902@pchotshots.com> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 10:29:11 -0400 From: Brad Mettee User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Benfell Subject: Re: it keeps crashing and I don't know why References: <20140808132735.GA2102@home.parts-unknown.org> <524f159823ff336519ca97c9b2b57bed@mhoenicka.de> <20140808135357.GA392@home.parts-unknown.org> <809311aa7e3c0e025ffd98fc1bd0f209@mhoenicka.de> In-Reply-To: <809311aa7e3c0e025ffd98fc1bd0f209@mhoenicka.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 14:32:47 -0000 On 8/8/2014 10:00 AM, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > At 2014-08-08 15:53, David Benfell was heard to say: >> On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 03:34:31PM +0200, Markus Hoenicka wrote: >>> >>> Are you sure the hardware is ok? >> >> No, I'm not sure. But if (see below) you think the memory is bad, it >> seems to me that some Linux live CDs at least used to include a memory >> test. >> >>> I'd first stick in a live CD or thumb >>> drive of whatever OS you can get hold of and see what happens before >>> blaming FreeBSD for these failures. Bad memory may cause similar >>> symptoms. >> >> Anything else I can reasonably test while I"m on that live CD? > > Well, if memory corruption is a possible source of your problems, > you'd better run memtest as Maxim suggested. Some Linux live CDs > contain it anyway, see e.g. Knoppix. > > regards, > Markus > You can also download bootable versions of Memtest. Burn it to a CD or push the image to a flash drive. In either case, it contains a mini-os to make the media boot and run, without need for an actual OS to be present on the system. When I do testing, I use this one: http://www.memtest.org/ There is also another free one, based on same code but forked some time ago: http://www.memtest86.com/download.htm -- Brad Mettee PC HotShots, Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 14:37:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09D39A16; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:37:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay01.ispgateway.de (smtprelay01.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAEB02A39; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [80.67.16.112] (helo=webmail.df.eu) by smtprelay01.ispgateway.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1XFlGw-0002K9-KZ; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 16:35:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 16:35:58 +0200 From: Markus Hoenicka To: David Benfell Subject: Re: it keeps crashing and I don't know why In-Reply-To: <20140808143135.GB99074@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140808132735.GA2102@home.parts-unknown.org> <524f159823ff336519ca97c9b2b57bed@mhoenicka.de> <20140808135357.GA392@home.parts-unknown.org> <809311aa7e3c0e025ffd98fc1bd0f209@mhoenicka.de> <20140808143135.GB99074@home.parts-unknown.org> Message-ID: X-Sender: markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail X-Df-Sender: bWFya3VzLmhvZW5pY2thQG1ob2VuaWNrYS5kZQ== Cc: freebsd-questions , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 14:37:00 -0000 At 2014-08-08 16:31, David Benfell was heard to say: > On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 04:00:29PM +0200, Markus Hoenicka wrote: >> >> Well, if memory corruption is a possible source of your problems, >> you'd >> better run memtest as Maxim suggested. Some Linux live CDs contain it >> anyway, see e.g. Knoppix. >> > I think Maxim was pointing to something even more convenient. > Memtester is a port, found in sysutils. I'm running it now. > > Maybe the system will stay up long enough for it to complete.... > > Thanks! I don't know the innards of FreeBSD well enough to be sure, but I remember from the days of yore that memtest runs without an OS to be able to do whatever it likes. This was said (back then) to give more thorough results than if you allow the OS to interfere with memory access. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka http://www.mhoenicka.de AQ score 38 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 14:38:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FAE3ABB; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bein.link (vps-6159-8629.cloud.tilaa.com [37.252.124.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C0F2A56; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from quad.localnet (unknown [172.16.32.6]) by bein.link (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F1DBB40339; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 16:37:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Maxim V FIlimonov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: it keeps crashing and I don't know why Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 18:38:06 +0400 Message-ID: <1546738.DtsfkVfjkP@quad> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.5 (FreeBSD/10.0-RELEASE; KDE/4.12.5; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20140808143135.GB99074@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140808132735.GA2102@home.parts-unknown.org> <809311aa7e3c0e025ffd98fc1bd0f209@mhoenicka.de> <20140808143135.GB99074@home.parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Markus Hoenicka , David Benfell , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 14:38:10 -0000 On Friday 08 August 2014 07:31:35 David Benfell wrote: > On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 04:00:29PM +0200, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > > Well, if memory corruption is a possible source of your problems, you'd > > better run memtest as Maxim suggested. Some Linux live CDs contain it > > anyway, see e.g. Knoppix. > > I think Maxim was pointing to something even more convenient. > Memtester is a port, found in sysutils. I'm running it now. > > Maybe the system will stay up long enough for it to complete.... > > Thanks! Well, that's also an option, but the system might get a kernel panic or get the binaries or something broken. So if you manage to do that, it would be perfect, but I'd recommend to download a livecd with memtest. -- wbr, Maxim Filimonov che@bein.link From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 14:40:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76E68C56 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:40:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ssimicro.com (mail.ssimicro.com [64.247.129.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ssimicro.com", Issuer "RapidSSL CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 194BA2AFD for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 14:40:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from markham.ssimicro.com (markham.ssimicro.com [64.247.130.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.ssimicro.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s78EeKjd039581 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:40:21 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <53E4E154.40008@corp.ssimicro.com> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 08:40:20 -0600 From: markham breitbach User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions Subject: Re: TCP/IP on the way out? References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 14:40:29 -0000 I can think of many reasons why TCP/IP won't go away, and while this might find some very small niche markets, but the fact that it is patent encumbered will keep it from ever replacing TCP/IP. -M On 2014-08-08, 1:00 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I trust that all is well with everyone. > > I have seen this article which sounds much like a dream, but seems true. > > http://www.networkworld.com/article/2459286/why-tcp/why-tcp/ip-is-on-the-way-out.html > > I'd love to hear the views of those who understand the network stack. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 15:14:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2178ED4B; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 15:14:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 01606206B; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 15:14:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 343CE598CDCC; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 15CB4598CDB5; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:14:08 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Markus Hoenicka Subject: Re: it keeps crashing and I don't know why Message-ID: <20140808151408.GA679@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140808132735.GA2102@home.parts-unknown.org> <524f159823ff336519ca97c9b2b57bed@mhoenicka.de> <20140808135357.GA392@home.parts-unknown.org> <809311aa7e3c0e025ffd98fc1bd0f209@mhoenicka.de> <20140808143135.GB99074@home.parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: freebsd-questions , owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 15:14:09 -0000 --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 04:35:58PM +0200, Markus Hoenicka wrote: >=20 > I don't know the innards of FreeBSD well enough to be sure, but I=20 > remember from the days of yore that memtest runs without an OS to be=20 > able to do whatever it likes. This was said (back then) to give more=20 > thorough results than if you allow the OS to interfere with memory=20 > access. >=20 I think that'd be the version on a Knoppix (or other) live CD. A drawback to running under any operating system would be that it obviously can't do write tests to the memory in use by the OS. --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT5Ok/AAoJEBV64x4SNmArGiEQAKfNAFpvWGrlsx4vZvQfNUim l/Vq3TYwfF83cswMCf2Pgk4+EfbcfwoLwj5JntXvVTtY1gWTjfzHqsQc1Gptt0ro wQtQZsujEUqQWWTbbaOmBDgktXA4EP7svmQBQeXd2p2Oe9y+E41Jp7e4cYCJhiA9 bcUJCCpkQ+Qfk3KqmjwC9ZYf0zvNpskt8GYWkCYUHcK3ErnvuXBZvrYOG0B7Pu3L xPMjFZjBeOkYpB78Op2HM6O9XQqIQ2p4EQ+OeGT7ywf53dGbBVioW+J73yuHZK9f LiZ/IwOixv77IjTUmfkMUyf7+635A2aSq8UoSWmF/YPc4Wo7qsKF4Tg3Kg+pSDOx w80Ae5qMfuILm8Gk6rDJ1Mus8S10Ho255yhuoJw5MTQfOLa+k1WzX/viKZuojMPf fh6DkycdI+v4LBLHcB+sBsBce5UpViLCsn1IazW8dT4zL0Owdbl8KC6A9NCaJ+Wv hnEo+W9e9qWGqEOXg53Od9hRTtE3M/Jzu8CjWB/JjeJC9hbb+14SAMiS8Fdx8O+5 scHAe+gspP+mUleTpZN1J1J8qAyJDOy4R+CZEimLvDqM40NjUNfM628x5ILltqPX d6rrllKMTT6nlH31M+geoqcA/UtIA23UdCHiLSddDMfUZ/z/b0RDc5AeSGYytzEI 7K9sa8LgiU7Wme1J+iNm =V+yl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 15:27:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB0705FD for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 15:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from geonosis.vindaloo.com (geonosis.vindaloo.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:26b:0:ac18:9026:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.vindaloo.com", Issuer "Vindaloo CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DD6F21C0 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 15:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hadar.vindaloo.com (hadar.vindaloo.com [172.24.145.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by geonosis.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A5A46BE86; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:27:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Hilton Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5242AC90-F5F7-4B86-BAD0-0133E37E866E"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:27:40 -0400 Subject: FreeBSD amd64 + VirtualBox on Mac boot issues To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-Id: <2186C930-ED6A-49F8-984C-7A2CACB20B1A@vindaloo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 15:27:43 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_5242AC90-F5F7-4B86-BAD0-0133E37E866E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I think this is a VirtualBox problem but I'd like to see if anyone else = in the FreeBSD community has seen this problem. Maybe they even have a = fix or workaround.=20 Is anyone using VirtualBox 4.3.14 to host FreeBSD amd64 guests? I'm = doing this with VirtualBox on Mac OS X and I get one of three behaviors = when start the FreeBSD guest: o The FreeBSD Guest hangs as Booting=85 o The guest loads the kernel but panics before launching init and = userland. o The guest boots fine. I cannot correlate anything that I'm doing to the guest that makes = VirtualBox behave this way and If I reboot the guest enough times = eventually it starts. My machine is a Core 2 Duo Mac Mini with 8G of = RAM. The guest has 1G of RAM. It runs FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE. If you need more information please feel free to hit me off-list. Again, = I think this is a VirtualBox issue. -- Chris --Apple-Mail=_5242AC90-F5F7-4B86-BAD0-0133E37E866E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT5OxsAAoJEE2ar4QHIpj4W4kQAI4DKjPQdDloTHkRQK5LXjo9 YCmcjR+1A4cl5dg/He2DDY+g45ev9yicPHcl08fXz4OAIESvRv5qUhT8GN6duzFP 9Bl+TqpK2kC3GvMexFGmH/b0AyT/IDrpIHDHgR6KL9D83gjeF7FmqJG7G1tCNvW0 aK0V45sXPku26tihfWe0uRjUuGgkzMxUL6xmFOiBMc0/iy0cnb4UYTIiVwpxqtbg rDvCgdyjtiE+OaEQgI6930IlpmOSzo7VNYxk1nq82NuHDRphmkcM3Dt2Kpq9GLai Pbo/lWknq2aj2EiP6qBWJ9ZexgRbue40iScGhy+UAnKllSaPS081PVR9NSwF1Bn8 upKuO+AqAtlst5NlOgbMXnU9Pkq7vMeHqv1KDglYtx3el05GY98T1A8xUywQOt08 b0gzc8oPGMDzcLGMDlQghTKXA1p2XidQsJxrTXRI9fjJfTK/N92/D608La0i6rgJ bYVBctKV2eAyWZgNN3snuK+hAZVImFpvc129wIQ8oyCWC45Q8ukNTrHXDtEUkrao iCRvOGXv/2lapNbv1iCNSxqgsYFHWeeOZFgHhvba8v9v1f/mfHnYdxgTML+xr4Qo Y/fWwZcYweMqD809OK37OfwZ8gT4D7ObWqUq1O3Ds7TE3GXKkTlIZgCHH68SJcuZ u3bmVCTpBtOykXqbPm8x =S8i0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_5242AC90-F5F7-4B86-BAD0-0133E37E866E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 15:30:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6929F6BF for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 15:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-f47.google.com (mail-qa0-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2749421E0 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 15:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id i13so5514244qae.20 for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 08:30:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=9zfXaQn7UmxHEUr/bWxrj/bj05MuEZkOjMA3jYkyUFE=; b=VWj7CdC7PqnGe9Jklr83xNXGpOky4mY8YMe5yWVWX2QG8GVAAR+jSdCbyHmDWZgNDm HcviKMIF8oPTFLdRB+y1gYvjlCjaTR4MlLZB8SL59qqwke1TnGVrImjc8a4UBxR+XBYB 4mwLb/imuZ6IHtLpRJ3+nFm2ITRx5QvgBcGvc/Z/DJYLfcdjC/vMu88vwjeoAbFW3eD7 SezTyCPIhOX+h6NyQsNhWYoqhGrWCxqWk4T3mrTnUf9NleWxsu3S2q57J2e139fRxyf4 1iWKiQZycuc0OCQDtnXyp3L80DBu/1AOEuMH7VENihxA5qa0TkUbIlt5bP+W/YmMb52j hEFg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlSC7vdc5ELsufoXC0WKKtD2noSk05wM4JISDcsPZkhG8dG5qn6g+0tWjX/lqDlx6PhaiVL X-Received: by 10.224.156.194 with SMTP id y2mr19256444qaw.15.1407511820484; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 08:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.127] (c-71-234-255-65.hsd1.vt.comcast.net. [71.234.255.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w11sm6028160qax.30.2014.08.08.08.30.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Aug 2014 08:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: some ZFS questions From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <201408070816.s778G9ug015988@sdf.org> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:30:18 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <27DAA821-0303-4D51-ADA7-7780DB8FE85D@kraus-haus.org> References: <201408070816.s778G9ug015988@sdf.org> To: Scott Bennett , FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 15:30:22 -0000 On Aug 7, 2014, at 4:16, Scott Bennett wrote: > One thing I ran across was the following from the zpool(8) man = page. >=20 > "For pools to be portable, you must give the zpool command whole > disks, not just slices, so that ZFS can label the disks with portable > EFI labels. Otherwise, disk drivers on platforms of different endian- > ness will not recognize the disks.=94 Here is where understanding *why* helps you make better decisions. In = order for a zpool to be importable (is that even a word?) on a given = system, the underlying OS must be able to read the parse the partition = information. Since the *only* partition system that *all* the OSes that = support ZFS understand is EFI, you need to use that if you want to have = a truly portable zpool. I *think* you can manually create the EFI and = just put zpools in the various partitions, but I am not positive. If you only care about moving zpools between FreeBSD systems, and KNOW = that you will NEVER want to import this pool on, for example, a Solaris = system, then you can use any partition system FreeBSD understands. I = have used GPT and moved zpools around between FreeBSD systems without a = problem. The critical part is that the OS must understand the partitioning and be = able to present to the ZFS kernel module the data from within the = partitions. Each partition that contains a zpool top level vdev will = include 4 copies of the ZFS header, 2 at the start of the device and 2 = at the end (note that I am saying device here, that could be an entire = disk or a partition or even a file acting as a block device). So, if the = ZFS code can read all 4 labels from the device, it can import this vdev, = if it can import a sufficient number of vdevs that make up a zpool, it = can import the zpool. > If I have one raidzN comprising .eli partitions and another raidzN = comprising > a set of unencrypted partitions on those same drives, will I be able = to > export both raidzN pools from a 9-STABLE system and then import them > into, say, a 10-STABLE system on a different Intel amd64 machine? I am not familiar with FreeBSD .eli partitions, I assume at some layer = below the block device the OS is encrypting the data here. If that is a = valid assumption, then I=92ll take a stab at answering :-) If the OS can = read the data from the device and find the ZFS labels it can import that = vdev (and with enough vdevs it can import the zpool). > By your > answer to question 1), it would seem that I need to have two raidzN = pools, > although there might be a number of benefits to having both encrypted = and > unencrypted file systems allocated inside a single pool were that an = option. Oracle has done work on ZFS to permit native encryption within ZFS. I do = not know off the top of my head if that is on a zpool or dataset basis. = I expect that it is probably on a dataset basis, so you could have both = encrypted and unencrypted datasets within one zpool (just as we can have = both compressed and uncompressed datasets). -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 16:03:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A17DB8F2 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 16:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-f41.google.com (mail-qa0-f41.google.com [209.85.216.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DD002684 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 16:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id j7so5707536qaq.0 for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 09:03:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=9kJKHLTn0w4p1KdD97h4SBfElHopBDOmeC6j8l8HKLQ=; b=ADiJDLrW/yByhbMX9vYE6guF+Sv865Q3BBOMJz40Kq7EYUYdM8wxtcKdzaLw/QLg9P WHB/ct6kmkhkkXCvhR73JYQ9MuR1JMnDVnrTZHNb2mJOEP9q12HT/+hEGY9XmP/vCGYM QRX4p2vwSytPHfH7CvQCS3pnjyect70pQGCvPuS5aCfQYFPpp80ffNZ942ssz4YlwSmf p6PYxGJJjotHqpZsH2YRLySG4NdLdMrogbo5Z4vbytNv2slo0bZVsA7FMmkn79co6pTc 7qflKjSdV3x1jLjz+ELeVAo+SGKVFvWW5FzEG+c30+1nneWgdQKn2IAr71u5G1WacOhI 0Niw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmHG7COXchcxBa39vb54713zc4p5iYQMlNWrBfsTFLWlxTaGzWqe7NVDsfqTJhdMlQpfaPH X-Received: by 10.224.75.130 with SMTP id y2mr34296404qaj.72.1407513837629; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 09:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.127] (c-71-234-255-65.hsd1.vt.comcast.net. [71.234.255.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 80sm3952133qgr.38.2014.08.08.09.03.55 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Aug 2014 09:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: some ZFS questions Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <201408070816.s778G9ug015988@sdf.org> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:03:54 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <40AF5B49-80AF-4FE2-BA14-BFF86164EAA8@kraus-haus.org> References: <201408070816.s778G9ug015988@sdf.org> To: Scott Bennett , FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: Andrew Berg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 16:03:59 -0000 On Aug 7, 2014, at 4:16, Scott Bennett wrote: > If two pools use different partitions on a drive and both pools = are > rebuilding those partitions at the same time, then how could ZFS *not* > be hammering the drive? The access arm would be doing almost nothing = but > endless series of long seeks back and forth between the two partitions > involved. How is this different from real production use with, for example, a = large database? Even with a single vdev per physical drive you generate = LOTS of RANDOM I/O during a resilver. Remember that a ZFS resilver is = NOT a like other RAID resync operations. It is NOT a sequential copy of = existing data. It is a functionally a reply of all the data written to = the zpool as it walks the UberBlock. The major difference between a = resilver and a scrub is that the resilver is expecting to be writing = data to one (or more) vdevs, while the scrub is mainly a read operation = (still generating LOTS of random I/O) looking for errors in the read = data (and correcting such when found). > When you're talking about hundreds of gigabytes to be written > to each partition, it could take months or even years to complete, = during > which time something else is almost certain to fail and halt the = rebuilds. In my experience it is not the amount of data to be re-written, but the = amount of writes that created the data. For example, a zpool that is = mostly write once (a mead library, for example, where each CD is written = once, never changed, and read lots) will resilver much faster than a = zpool with lots of small random writes and lots of deletions (like a = busy database). See my blog post here: = http://pk1048.com/zfs-resilver-observations/ for the most recent = resilver I had to do on my home server. I needed to scan 2.84TB of data = to rewrite 580GB, it took just under 17 hours. If I had two (or more) vdevs on each device (and I *have* done that when = I needed to), I would have issued the first zpool replace command, = waited for it to complete and then issued the other. If I had more than = one drive fail, I would have handled the replacement of BOTH drives on = one zpool first and then moved on to the second. This is NOT because I = want to be nice and easy on my drives :-), it is simply because I expect = that running the two operations in parallel will be slower than running = them in series. For the major reason that large seeks are slower than = short seeks. Also note from the data in my blog entry that the only drive being = pushed close to it=92s limits is the new replaced drive that is handling = the writes. The read drives are not being pushed that hard. YMMV as this = is a 5 drive RAIDz2 and for the case of a 2-way mirror the read drive = and write drive will be more closely loaded. > That looks good. What happens if a "zpool replace failingdrive = newdrive" > is running when the failingdrive actually fails completely? A zpool replace is not a simple copy from the failing device to the new = one, it is a rebuild of the data on the new device, so if the device = fails completely it just keeps rebuilding. The example in my blog was of = a drive that just went offline with no warning. I put the new drive in = the same physical slot (I did not have any open slots) and issued the = resilver command. Note that having the FreeBSD device drive echo the Vendor info, = including drive P/N and S/N to the system log is a HUGE help to = replacing bad drives. >> memory pressure more gracefully, but it's not committed yet. I highly = recommend >> moving to 64-bit as soon as possible. >=20 > I intend to do so, but "as soon as possible" will be after all = this > disk trouble and disk reconfiguration have been resolved. It will be = done > via an in-place upgrade from source, so I need to have a place to run > buildworld and build kernel. So the real world intrudes on perfection yet again :-) We do what we = have to in order to get the job done, but make sure to understand the = limitations and compromises you are making along the way. > Before doing an installkernel and installworld, > I need also to have a place to run full backups. I have not had a = place to > store new backups for the last three months, which is making me more = unhappy > by the day. I really have to get the disk work *done* before I can = move > forward on anything else, which is why I'm trying to find out whether = I can > actually use ZFS raidzN in that cause while still on i386. Yes, you can. I have used ZFS on 32-bit systems (OK, they were really = 32-bit VMs, but I was still running ZFS there, still am today and it has = saved my butt at least once already). > Performance > will not be an issue that I can see until later if ever. I have run ZFS on systems with as little as 1GB total RAM, just do NOT = expect stellar (or even good) performance. Keep a close watch on the ARC = size (FreeBSD 10 makes this easy with the additional status line in top = for the ZFS ARC and L2ARC). You can also use arcstat.pl (get the FreeBSD = version here = https://code.google.com/p/jhell/downloads/detail?name=3Darcstat.pl )to = track ARC usage over time. On my most critical production server I leave = it running with a 60 second sample so if something goes south I can see = what happened just before. Tune vfs.zfs.arc_max in /boot/loader.conf If I had less than 4GB of RAM I would limit the ARC to 1/2 RAM, unless = this were solely a fileserver, then I would watch how much memory I = needed outside ZFS and set the ARC to slightly less than that. Take a = look at the recommendations here https://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSTuningGuide = for low RAM situations. > I just need to > know whether I can use it at all with my presently installed OS or = will > instead have to use gvinum(8) raid5 and hope for minimal data = corruption. > (At least only one .eli device would be needed in that case, not the = M+N > .eli devices that would be required for a raidzN pool.) Unfortunately, > ideal conditions for ZFS are not an available option for now. I am a big believer in ZFS, so I think the short term disadvantages are = outweighed by the ease of migration and the long term advantages. So I = would go the ZFS route. -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 16:08:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FD7C9CF for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 16:08:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5859726BC for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 16:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3hVBLh5mzrz10T for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:08:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 12:08:12 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: some ZFS questions Message-ID: <98315411DC9FD58E5A07BAF1@[192.168.1.50]> In-Reply-To: <201408080706.s78765xs022311@sdf.org> References: <201408070816.s778G9ug015988@sdf.org> <53E3A836.9080904@my.hennepintech.edu> <201408080706.s78765xs022311@sdf.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 16:08:20 -0000 --As of August 8, 2014 2:06:05 AM -0500, Scott Bennett is alleged to have said: >> > If I have one raidzN comprising .eli partitions and another raidzN >> > comprising a set of unencrypted partitions on those same drives, will >> > I be able to export both raidzN pools from a 9-STABLE system and then >> > import them into, say, a 10-STABLE system on a different Intel amd64 >> > machine? By your answer to question 1), it would seem that I need to >> > have two raidzN pools, although there might be a number of benefits to >> > having both encrypted and unencrypted file systems allocated inside a >> > single pool were that an option. >> Having any physical disk be a part of more than one pool is not >> recommended (except perhaps for cache and log devices where failure is >> not a big deal). Not only can it cause thrashing as you mentioned above, >> but one disk dying makes both pools degraded. Lose two disks, and you >> lose both pools. If you need only > > If ZFS has no way to prevent thrashing in that situation, then that > is a serious design deficiency in ZFS. ZFS groups IO into batches to try to help against thrashing (and to improve efficiency), which could help. But I'm not sure how it's supposed to work out when you give it two different devices that those are actually one device. While the normal 'preferred' setup for encrypting ZFS pools is to make the pool out of encrypted partitions, from your questions I'd argue that looking for ways to build the encryption on top of the zpool is probably the better route for you. (I think you should be able to do that with geli, though I can't say I've ever played with it.) Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. 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[71.234.255.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id y9sm6310063qaj.8.2014.08.08.09.36.10 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Aug 2014 09:36:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: some ZFS questions Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <201408080706.s78765xs022311@sdf.org> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:36:09 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <201408070816.s778G9ug015988@sdf.org> <53E3A836.9080904@my.hennepintech.edu> <201408080706.s78765xs022311@sdf.org> To: Scott Bennett , FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: Andrew Berg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 16:36:14 -0000 On Aug 8, 2014, at 3:06, Scott Bennett wrote: > Well, I need space for encrypted file systems and for unencrypted = file > systems at a roughly 1:3 ratio. I have four 2 TB drives for the = purpose > already, but apparently need at least two more. If zvol+geli+UFS is = not the > way and using multiple slices/partitions is not the way either, then = how > should I set it up? How much data do you need to store? With four 2TB drives I would setup either a 2x2 mirror (if I needed = random I/O performance) or a 4 drive RAIDz2 if I needed reliability (the = RAIDz2 configuration has a substantially higher MTTDL than a 2-way = mirror). How much does the geli encryption cost in terms of space and speed? Is = there a strong reason to not encrypt ALL the data? It can be in = different zfs datasets (the ZFS term for a filesystem). In fact, I am = NOT a fan of using the base dataset that is created with every zpool; I = always create addition zfs datasets below the root of the zpool. Note that part of the reason it is not recommended to create more than = one vdev per physical device is that load on one zpool can then effect = the performance of the other. It also means that you cannot readily = predict the performance of *either* as they will interact with each = other. Neither of the above may apply to you, but knowing *why* can help = you choose to ignore a recommendation :-) >=20 > I see. I had gathered from the zpool(8) man page's two forms of = the > "replace" subcommand that the form shown above should be used if the = failing > disk were still somewhat usable, but that the other form should be = used if > the failing disk were already a failed disk. I figured from that that = ZFS > would try to get whatever it could from the failing disk and only = recalculate > from the rest for blocks that couldn't be read intact from the failing = disk. > If that is not the case, then why bother to have two forms of the = "replace" > subcommand? Wouldn't it just be simpler to unplug the failing drive, = plug > in the new drive, and then use the other form of the "replace" = subcommand, > in which case that would be the *only* form of the subcommand? I suspect that is legacy usage. The behavior of resilver (and scrub) = operations changed a fair bit in the first couple years of ZFS=92s use = in the real world. One of the HUGE advantages of the OpenSolaris project = was the very fast feedback from the field directly to the developers. = You still see that today in the OpenZFS project. While I am not a = developer, I do subscribe to the ZFS-developer mailing list to read what = is begin worked on and why. > In any case, that is why I was asking what would happen in the > mid-rebuild failure situation. If both subcommands are effectively = identical, > then I guess it shouldn't be a big problem. IIRC, at some point the replace operation (resilver) was modified to use = a =93failing=94 device to speed the process if it were still available. = You still need to read the data and compare to the checksum, but it can = be faster if you have the bad drive for some of the data. But my memory = here may also be faulty, this is a good question to ask over on the ZFS = list. > How does one set a limit? Is there an undocumented sysctl = variable > for it? $ sysctl -a | grep vfs.zfs to find all the zfs handles (not all may be tunable) Set them in /boot/loader.conf vfs.zfs.arc_max=3D=93nnnM=94 is what you want :-) If /boot/loader.conf does not exist, create it, same format as = /boot/defaults/loader.conf (but do not change things there, they may be = overwritten by OS updates/upgrades). > However, no one seems to have tackled my original question 4) = regarding > "options KVA_PAGES=3Dn". Care to take a stab at it? See the writeup at https://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSTuningGuide I have not needed to make these tunings, so I cannot confirm them, but = they have been out there for long enough that I suspect if they were = wrong (or bad) they would have been corrected or removed. > If ZFS has no way to prevent thrashing in that situation, then = that is > a serious design deficiency in ZFS. Before you start making claims about =93design deficiencies=94 in ZFS I = suggest you take a good hard look at the actual design and the criteria = it was designed to fulfill. ZFS was NOT designed to be easy on drives. = Nor was it designed to be easy on any of the other hardware (CPU or = RAM). It WAS designed to be as fault tolerant as any physical system can = be. It WAS designed to be incredibly scalable. It WAS designed to be = very portable. It was NOT designed to be cheap. > Does that then leave me with just the zvol+geli+UFS way to = proceed? > I mean, I would love to be wealthy enough to throw thrice as many = drives > into this setup, but I'm not. I can get by with using a single set of = drives > for the two purposes that need protection against device failure and = silent > data corruption and then finding a smaller, cheaper drive or two for = the > remaining purposes, but devoting a whole set of drives to each purpose = is > not an option. If ZFS really needs to be used that way, then that is = another > serious design flaw, You seem to be annoyed that ZFS was not designed for your specific = requirements. I would not say that ZFS has a =93serious design flaw=94 = simply because it was designed for the exact configuration you need. = What you need is the Oracle implementation of encryption under ZFS, = which you can get by paying for it. -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 16:51:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D3AD91A for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 16:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F6122BB7 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 16:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564B2598CDCC; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 09:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 37512598CDB5; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 09:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 09:51:18 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Brad Mettee Subject: Re: it keeps crashing and I don't know why Message-ID: <20140808165118.GA1769@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140808132735.GA2102@home.parts-unknown.org> <524f159823ff336519ca97c9b2b57bed@mhoenicka.de> <20140808135357.GA392@home.parts-unknown.org> <809311aa7e3c0e025ffd98fc1bd0f209@mhoenicka.de> <53E4DEB7.7070902@pchotshots.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53E4DEB7.7070902@pchotshots.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 16:51:27 -0000 --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 10:29:11AM -0400, Brad Mettee wrote: >=20 > You can also download bootable versions of Memtest. Burn it to a CD or=20 > push the image to a flash drive. In either case, it contains a mini-os=20 > to make the media boot and run, without need for an actual OS to be=20 > present on the system. When I do testing, I use this one: > http://www.memtest.org/ So it looks like one gets a bootable Memtest86+ from the above site. I didn't try the second one (below).... > There is also another free one, based on same code but forked some time= =20 > ago: http://www.memtest86.com/download.htm >=20 So I booted off the ISO, it went straight to work--no formalities here--and crashed within 10 seconds. It reports CPU temperature at 45 degrees (I assume celsius). I let it reboot, and it crashed again, again within 10 seconds. It looks like you all were correct. --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT5QAGAAoJEBV64x4SNmArTyYP/2z7Q4HMuQlhTl7SqIObRjVz E5OEYaSLnsA2PfE6IMia91KXxG7K+f9nEr6LkbGuxuHLrqKLIVbh5ebtfDlL5Qug qxm0JLL2oBHzHGsGxQZLVnuPUawePwkSzeP8Hkh1Iz12MXG595x+svhUaGvEpmP3 WWYKVA3dEp9Apm5lbtHdAIabc2Vuxkg9bab+apwxnC2ezbbMw6uqiYl+3zKzPdKj ZMTIQHcYidd9vvr/pN59h/HOx+461oINC0Q2sG7Tiifnl218eeoXFWID4zNK1l9d 57213PrwejCYsqLMFBmNrUWC4h2tKZh66pPy9SXcKtkoNllmFLESEEpgV5tUhoT7 +Rv2XvWmUTuQ3hAXuOYA/bSks7Fa2caHHCisLfBLgtdbbAKobPgSST8MDWrzrtdW SJyIjFtW4jC/zt4s6vbqjueM7s4F4qWj8I6JTPnC75FotlSENYUOpG+2biVHs7LH biLTojKMnuVzETpIJkLiXpV410gP4BukRs2QwlBL6V8Hma3GYvuPsUdH0i5HmpmH v79pcwnRWBUWcsZ1v47HNTUV+NA6EKbh3h/zPN4grh/yWFZsto0z5YFb7PnB9Ysk X6bBZXjEnMXhbuinW+IOdOBIbxZz5sZ3L7adfBX9xnY3aE/+F1IgIR17iVheZ1Zv ROgptvbtpcVPneLRPUXW =Cjch -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 16:58:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE3ACAE6 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 16:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bein.link (vps-6159-8629.cloud.tilaa.com [37.252.124.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCBB2C99 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 16:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from quad.localnet (unknown [172.16.32.6]) by bein.link (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B5E6540339; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 18:58:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Maxim V FIlimonov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: it keeps crashing and I don't know why Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 20:58:40 +0400 Message-ID: <1843003.yuQaR7ryX4@quad> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.5 (FreeBSD/10.0-RELEASE; KDE/4.12.5; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20140808165118.GA1769@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140808132735.GA2102@home.parts-unknown.org> <53E4DEB7.7070902@pchotshots.com> <20140808165118.GA1769@home.parts-unknown.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Cc: Brad Mettee , David Benfell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 16:58:43 -0000 On Friday 08 August 2014 09:51:18 David Benfell wrote: > On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 10:29:11AM -0400, Brad Mettee wrote: > > You can also download bootable versions of Memtest. Burn it to a CD= or > > push the image to a flash drive. In either case, it contains a mini= -os > > to make the media boot and run, without need for an actual OS to be= > > present on the system. When I do testing, I use this one: > > http://www.memtest.org/ >=20 > So it looks like one gets a bootable Memtest86+ from the above site. = I > didn't try the second one (below).... >=20 > > There is also another free one, based on same code but forked some = time > > ago: http://www.memtest86.com/download.htm >=20 > So I booted off the ISO, it went straight to work--no formalities > here--and crashed within 10 seconds. >=20 > It reports CPU temperature at 45 degrees (I assume celsius). >=20 Both are way too low for the CPU to overheat. About 75=B0C would be rea= lly bad,=20 but 45=B0C is just fine. > I let it reboot, and it crashed again, again within 10 seconds. It > looks like you all were correct. Well, what we said right is that your issue is a hardware problem. --=20 wbr, Maxim Filimonov che@bein.link From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 17:30:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A4C9DD3 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 17:30:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-x231.google.com (mail-ob0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 463652138 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 17:30:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id wp18so4117158obc.36 for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 10:30:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ywsni8BrTrB1jOp2vvuUDzjzbvDzaQyxGdgyQv4Ioss=; b=VMIydCTRUgbsTn26cqpg63ZMNR0cMw5ClE8NXrya7jhnVKayKBBl3ShEyg/mVJHb4H oqGRupyMrhyoEk0+R/N7zkGeZ3lUV21ejtlYxJ6deLRi0OucsC/peBv/H4oLxefEbm2p g0rHUpQcOvtO/pggx/rUE0kHs8ClHZrOPuBb7pMDnVpF8qsRLedsXeGnS2YjTGW1ifZb y0O8Lv3p+0pbxzkYcJpm1In2Y80QLByBCna7yw3206zyKajc3JAiI9+9xe25g+r+774l ebcwYlUrbooDzDJBx7MsErQibUxkjOnxJj71bOmsEmbWQ4Ta13f/QkcZd1fWnoqkO8YK JvCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.158.8 with SMTP id wq8mr31885750oeb.40.1407519054616; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 10:30:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.93.102 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 10:30:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 19:30:54 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Information_needed_for_Dolch_386_portable_computer_1?= =?UTF-8?Q?985=C2=B4s_with_freeBSD_i386?= From: Kriszta Riho To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 17:30:55 -0000 Hi There, I inherited a vintage Dolch 386 portable computer 1985=C2=B4s which has fre= eBSD i386 on it and I would like to reset the computer for to use it. I do not want recover the information or data which is on it, only reset it, but now it asks me password and login and I do not have this information. Could you please, let me know who could help me or which programme I need to reset the portable computer? Thank you. Waiting for your earliest reply. 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[71.234.255.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id x5sm6594912qaj.42.2014.08.08.10.54.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Aug 2014 10:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: gvinum raid5 vs. ZFS raidz Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <201408071106.s77B6JCI005742@sdf.org> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 13:54:18 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5B99AAB4-C8CB-45A9-A6F0-1F8B08221917@kraus-haus.org> References: <201408020621.s726LsiA024208@sdf.org> <53DCDBE8.8060704@qeng-ho.org> <201408060556.s765uKJA026937@sdf.org> <53E1FF5F.1050500@qeng-ho.org> <201408070831.s778VhJc015365@sdf.org> <201408070936.s779akMv017524@sdf.org> <201408071106.s77B6JCI005742@sdf.org> To: Scott Bennett , FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: freebsd@qeng-ho.org, Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 17:54:22 -0000 On Aug 7, 2014, at 7:06, Scott Bennett wrote: > Even just as parity bits, those would amount to only one bit per > eight bytes, which seems inadequate. OTOH, the 520 bytes thing is > tickling something in my memory that I can't quite seem to recover, = and > I don't know (or can't remember) what else those eight bytes might be > used for. In any case, at the time I spoke with the guy at = Seagate/Samsung, > I was unaware of the server grade vs. non-server grade distinction, = so I > didn't know to ask him anything about whether silent errors should be > accepted as "normal" for the server grade of disks. Take a look at the manufacturer data sheets for this drives. All of the = ones that I have looked at over the past ten years have included the = =93uncorrectable error rate=94 and it is generally 1 in 10e-14 for = =93consumer grade drives=94 and 1 in 1e-15 for =93enterprise grade = drives=94. That right there shows the order of magnitude difference in = this error rate between consumer and enterprise drives. The reason no one even discussed it prior to the appearance of 1TB = drives is that over the life of a less than 1TB drive you are = statistically almost assured of NOT running into it. It was still there, = but no one wrote/read enough data over the life of the drive to hit it. On the other hand, I am willing to bet that many of the =93random=94 = systems crashes (and Windows BSOD) were caused by this issue. A hard = disk returned a single bit error in a bad place and the system crashed. Note that all disk drives include some amount of error checking, even as = far back as the 10MB MFM drives of the 1980=92s. Anyone remember having = to manually manage the =93Bad block list=94 ? Those were blocks that = were so bad that the error correction could not fix them. But, as far as = I can tell, the uncorrectable errors have always been with us, we just = did not not see them. -- Paul Kraus paul@kraus-haus.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 21:14:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE478881 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 21:14:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from IMAIL5.netenterprise.net (imail5.netenterprise.net [64.29.90.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0C22DD1 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 21:14:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ponolei.intra.net [72.235.61.32] by IMAIL5.netenterprise.net with ESMTP (SMTPD-12.3.0.100) id ac2f0004ee86f633; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:14:31 -1000 Message-ID: <53E53DB2.8040609@hdk5.net> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 11:14:26 -1000 From: al plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Benfell Subject: Re: Touchpad issues References: <20140802223804.GA42137@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140808034755.GA98543@home.parts-unknown.org> In-Reply-To: <20140808034755.GA98543@home.parts-unknown.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "illoai@gmail.com" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 21:14:34 -0000 David Benfell wrote: > On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 12:22:34PM -0400, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > >> I strongly dislike xorg taking over the kernel rle of >> mediating hardware, so I don't have a HAL-ified xorg, >> & I have >> hw.psm.synaptics_support=1 >> in my /boot/loader.conf >> & I use the old, simple "Driver" "mouse" with /dev/sysmouse >> (Options "Protocol" "auto"). Letting moused(8) >> handle the plugging & unplugging of USB mousies >> works fine & everything I need does what I need. >> >> I'm not saying this is the best way to handle it, but it >> does give edge scrolling & such, & a bunch of tunables >> under hw.psm that I've never fiddled with. It's a bit >> touchy for my taste, but dropping your wrists while >> typing is a bad habit anyway. >> >> I also don't know how well moused(8) works with a HAL- >> ified xorg & hot-plugging USB mousies, I don't care to >> test it. >> >> > Do you allow hald to run at all? If so, how do you tell it to ignore > the mouse? If not, am I overestimating the difficulty of dealing with > hot-plugged USB devices? > > When I am on the road, I will sometimes plug a trackball mouse into > the thing. It's *much* easier to deal with than the touchpad and it's > USB. > > As for sensitivity, that's my problem. If my wrists are within six > inches of that touchpad, horizontally, vertically, or diagonally, it's > liable to move the cursor and sense a click. Text winds up getting > typed in completely the wrong places--which is a real problem when > you're a Ph.D. student writing 20-plus page tomes. > > To maybe--only maybe--limit this, I would have to type with my hands > held vertically, which is unlikely to be healthier or preferable > technique to letting your wrists drop. ;-) > > thanks! > Aloha, I have a Linux HP net book and I cant go near the touchpad or it clicks. I contacted HP and they said they know this happens with some people. The small switch (iluminated white) above the pad can be depressed to deactivate the pad. They tell you to use a USB wireless logitech mouse. This works fine. ~ Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 ~ Supporting FreeBSD - UNIX Computer O/S email: noc@hdk5.net ."All that's really worth doing is what we do for others" - Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 23:28:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D235D766 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 23:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from IMAIL5.netenterprise.net (imail5.netenterprise.net [64.29.90.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926FA2BD7 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 23:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ponolei.intra.net [72.235.61.32] by IMAIL5.netenterprise.net with ESMTP (SMTPD-12.3.0.100) id f5d10004f796fc4d; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 13:28:46 -1000 Message-ID: <53E55D2F.9040409@hdk5.net> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 13:28:47 -1000 From: al plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?re=3A_Information_needed_for_Dolch_386_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?portable_computer_1985=B4s_with_?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 23:28:54 -0000 Kriszta Riho wrote: > Hi There, > > I inherited a vintage Dolch 386 portable computer 1985s which has > freeBSD > i386 on it and I would like to reset the computer for to use it. I do not > want recover the information or data which is on it, only reset it, > but now > it asks me password and login and I do not have this information. > Could you please, let me know who could help me or which programme I need > to reset the portable computer? > > Thank you. > > Waiting for your earliest reply. > > Regards, > Krisztina Riho > Spain > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" To change root passwd Type in : mount -u ( /this will mount root) mount -a (this will mount all the files) passwd root (enter a new root here) exit (to save) Then you can remove files or whatever you dont want and add your own. Al ~ Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 ~ Supporting FreeBSD - UNIX Computer O/S email: noc@hdk5.net ."All that's really worth doing is what we do for others" - Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 00:31:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D647E5C for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 00:31:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9CF12217 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 00:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s790VFWL010211; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 02:31:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9038B123BC; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 02:31:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 02:31:15 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Kriszta Riho Subject: Re: Information needed for =?utf-8?Q?Dolch?= =?utf-8?Q?_386_portable_computer_1985=C2=B4s?= with freeBSD i386 Message-ID: <20140809003115.GB22288@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Kriszta Riho , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5/uDoXvLw7AC5HRs" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 00:31:25 -0000 --5/uDoXvLw7AC5HRs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 07:30:54PM +0200, Kriszta Riho wrote: > Hi There, >=20 > I inherited a vintage Dolch 386 portable computer 1985=C2=B4s which has f= reeBSD > i386 on it and I would like to reset the computer for to use it. Wow, that's pretty old. > I do not > want recover the information or data which is on it, only reset it, but n= ow > it asks me password and login and I do not have this information. > Could you please, let me know who could help me or which programme I need > to reset the portable computer? It is normal for FreeBSD to ask for a username and password. It depends with what you mean by "reset". If you want to install an old version of MS-DOS or another operating system on it, you can just do that by booting from a floppy. That will remove the current software, of course. If you want to access the currently installed FreeBSD, read on. Probably the easiest way to gain access is to go through the papers that ca= me with the computer, if any. There is a good chance that the password for the administrator account (which has the username "root") are written down somewhere. It could even be on a sticker on the bottom of the computer. If not, you can try the username "root" (without the quotation mark) and an empty password, or the password "root". It is possible to reset the passwords, but the process is complicated, especially on hardware that is this old and runs an ancient version of FreeBSD. The machine will have to be booted from a floppy to get access to = the harddisk. Or the harddisk will have to be disassembled an put into a newer machine. I would therefore respectfully suggest that if you want to do that you seek contact with the Spanish user group (http://freebsdspain.blogspot.com/) and take the machine to a user group meeting. They can probably help you with it. Hope this helps, and good luck! Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --5/uDoXvLw7AC5HRs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT5WvTAAoJEED21dyjijPg+7EP/R0hZs2SxVa2PLKmEiHlVYhq 67cbHgPhKlFVh9iIR5Sy98yBtszQzaN6H5wyEzVLEywYwUIxOBKc1/dGuC4UdHzK aah+D9sYD1IF7g0I4TaXx1q13SoA7+vjkhQcpdZwg0KbvyH6dOn2/coI9RaDls7p xkk2uZb+LkKit4kzJjtHmzJWyRWGyZJqA8/XW/t7N2fExZgnwQ14Nc+cZSNE9Urm ZUYyWmjgyvP4XuWbrRxx05xZOmePxjKMWij9Bt6aw83LNax41qAok7d/AUYB23AM EkW0J1sJ70yYhKAH6D3p9FC6gCPHejkUrZ1/3xRB6CSWxD5k9ardaDsuu96RfZsg cg/92+yp+E3yaUw3USQD1k9Y5gWe1ornd0XKOEFh3Jjsj7HqzrHx9m5MsMjT6/Cp iIKw2LeKLfVVqIQk1wokncqmZCJUvUKU2ARQKNetyQPoGuNKZTnCAJVjZkSqUHAQ wHPoeIxSd8AAYttpHHUDYcbApUNwXrBsmIJ8qA8n6m2GQlgx3iDszHUcV2Pq6WNr 4YFYYzB7PFU4M64N5CsYG7vuiMrw7pJk65NNq4W6D5Aetg6aTRzLHLt+E6k8cyuC jlAMdBjyV+upmDcR4MbSuDO4dlD7+lq+odA4C59OGN9eNhu2tptdHuj9bGP68B6o Rq687nzyDEGMvJVsYa6d =HGGX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5/uDoXvLw7AC5HRs-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 00:40:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFFD9F38 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 00:40:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 996CE22D5 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 00:40:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=F8rn4oGX5D+nLkq3kEwEtX4t0kzWWY6uV4IJYcPT5dY=; b=SJerKSO9vNv8tQ9a6cbD2Ic6bdu+eyk7HNYqWGBz/QPEYdDb1xAdJjFUCFPs1mquMOPi7zBzqUCyEI4esztPpYIn4Tlv8oJD01VcpCE1fdz6wMkp/yaTKvLZ0/UgQeaCp3Mulcy2wSdN2hz2qnqQsulRfmF/26VPb11MmTZEWUw=; Received: from [114.124.5.49] (port=61011 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XFuhP-0007ZL-I3; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 18:39:56 -0600 Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 08:39:50 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Kriszta Riho Subject: Re: Information needed for Dolch 386 portable computer =?ISO-8859-1?Q?1985=B4s?= with freeBSD i386 Message-ID: <20140809083950.43f629a8@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 00:40:02 -0000 Hi, On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 19:30:54 +0200 Kriszta Riho wrote: > Hi There, >=20 > I inherited a vintage Dolch 386 portable computer 1985=C2=B4s which has > freeBSD i386 on it and I would like to reset the computer for to use > it. I do not want recover the information or data which is on it, > only reset it, but now it asks me password and login and I do not > have this information. Could you please, let me know who could help > me or which programme I need to reset the portable computer? >=20 you should be able to boot into single user mode and then change whatever you want. As it has a 80386 CPU, you will have to stick with an older FreeBSD version. The 32 bit version indicates to run on a i386 but it actually needs a 80486 CPU. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 01:03:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDAB12C0 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 01:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24DC925B5 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 01:03:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop3.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop3.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.185]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E551C27370; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 11:03:34 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <53E57366.6050300@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 11:03:34 +1000 From: R Skinner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Sam Fourman Jr." Subject: [solved - sort of]:Re: Anyone running IBM SPSS Statistical software on FreeBSD? References: <53C9CCB9.9010706@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: freebsd general questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 01:03:47 -0000 Well I have good news, and bad news. After several days of pulling this apart to make it work, I have some results. Good news is the linux version could (in theory) be made to work on FreeBSD - possibly even natively, as it uses java and python as far as I can see. With some work (and intense hacking) I believe it could be possible. Bad news is IBM couldn't really give a shit. Even their supposedly "supported" linux version (with the exception of probably their own) they couldn't give a straight answer to save their life. It was use the installer as is or take a hike. The installer is some ridiculous software to make a linux installation like a a windows install (why?). It runs java, and requires the genuine oracle java version. The packaged version is 64 bit, not 32 though, so it will never work. Use the script to get the environment variables, it will store that in a few places (and do the same job several times over). One file you need is env.properties, the other is temp.lax (installer property file). So this is the cmd line you're after: $actvm $options $lax_nl_java_launcher_main_class $propfname $envPropertiesFile $cmdLineArgs Where $actvm is the oracle java, $options is '-cp $CLASSPATH' which would be just what is in the install dir, $lax_nl_launcher_main_class is found in the properties files, $propfname is the temp.lax, $envPropertiesFile is the env.properties; there are no command arguments that I'm aware of - as far as IBM is too. Could be a silent version (no gui) but there is no way to really know without some serious looking through 3k+ lines of script. You also want to ensure that LANG=C and java home is set correctly before running. Having done that, the main piece of code you want is under disc1, which is a zip file. Inside that you will find a tar.gz that is what you really want as that is the actually app. The rest just sets up env and other stuff. Incidentally, it appears IBM has hardwired the java version in the script so that it can't be overridden by a preinstalled version - same with python in the java installer too (why?). And that is as far as I got. I ran out of time and steam to get this to go, but I did get the installer working up to the point where it started a script to install the app. Hope that helps someone else down the track :) Now I might just use the linux version under VBox or wine it. On 07/19/14 11:49, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > A few years back, I ran the windows version under wine and it worked fine. > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 8:41 PM, R Skinner > > wrote: > > The joys of study.... > > I'm in a course that requires the use of this IBM statistics > software (SPSS), and hooray for IBM - finally someone who gets the > real world of computing in this day and age! :-D - they have a > linux version. About time the course providers got it through > their heads that Winblows is on the way out... > > Anyway, the specs require linux 2.6.18 and GCC 4.3 and libc++ - > basically what I think might possibly run on FreeBSD (IBM seems to > think so too). Just wondering about any real world use though? Any > hiccups or problems? > > Cheers > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > > > > > -- > > Sam Fourman Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 01:28:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0873857A for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 01:28:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-x234.google.com (mail-ie0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1AA5272D for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 01:28:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id at20so7085361iec.25 for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 18:28:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=hJyb7OLVt5AfPp0WMfyKwvZIS/sfCCDI2PhGOVONkRM=; b=J3uOu+GXN7fO879cMrceuRuHdr7mMuvoyjV4k4DwLqmTjLonhPwuljOm2sXvHzwIW5 XjQz6raoDIB9N4wDYblWgwAnHfuemqF1azbmFevU8L82x/6LTr3Ckk3uAYc/wX3ywPT7 sb5tyi1/tqbu2bzlOAOq2YD7LEpLhzdlRqmFLO91cDYQYzUryhA3U8Wt3bZf4cfQD7ab TVm009SOU+qXLA0Q8RLF47C+P5/lWw4DANytnE16YycOV4U1fzWkhR9+y0ZM/oGqsmfA QKjsxfXesytJ5LoBVAMFtmUTxECJjXQ3WGL1tyof0pkvcPEnHSS3rIBPhgXN4aG4DpzQ eoUw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.143.73 with SMTP id sc9mr9945230igb.29.1407547697290; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 18:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.10.86 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 18:28:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53E55D2F.9040409@hdk5.net> References: <53E55D2F.9040409@hdk5.net> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 15:28:17 -1000 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Information_needed_for_Dolch_386_portable_comput?= =?UTF-8?Q?er_1985=C2=B4s_with?= From: Kent Kuriyama To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 01:28:18 -0000 Krisztina, Al Plant's advice works if you are able to boot into single user mode. When you boot your Dolch you should be given the option to boot either single or multi-user. Booting into single user will give you a shell prompt at which point you are 'root'. Mount the file system as Al advises and you can then reset the root password. If for some reason you can't boot into single user mode then you try booting a version of the FreeBSD CD ROM into 'repair mode' and then mount the Dolch's hard drive to reset the password. Old versions of FreeBSD are available at: http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/ISO-IM= AGES/ You should really question why you need to get into the existing FreeBSD installation of the Dolch. It only makes sense if you want to recover files. Kent On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 1:28 PM, al plant wrote: > Kriszta Riho wrote: > >> Hi There, >> >> I inherited a vintage Dolch 386 portable computer 1985=C2=B4s which has = freeBSD >> i386 on it and I would like to reset the computer for to use it. I do no= t >> want recover the information or data which is on it, only reset it, but >> now >> it asks me password and login and I do not have this information. >> Could you please, let me know who could help me or which programme I nee= d >> to reset the portable computer? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Waiting for your earliest reply. >> >> Regards, >> Krisztina Riho >> Spain >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > To change root passwd Type in : > > mount -u ( /this will mount root) > mount -a (this will mount all the files) > > passwd root > > (enter a new root here) > > exit (to save) > > Then you can remove files or whatever you dont want and add your own. > > Al > > ~ Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 ~ > Supporting FreeBSD - UNIX Computer O/S email= : > noc@hdk5.net > ."All that's really worth doing is what we do for others" - Lewis Carrol > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 02:35:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07D0BD26 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 02:35:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nlpiport16.prodigy.net.mx (nlpiport16.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83642D16 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 02:35:21 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,829,1400043600"; d="scan'208";a="1003920099" Received: from nlpiport21.prodigy.net.mx ([148.235.52.83]) by nlpiport16.prodigy.net.mx with ESMTP; 08 Aug 2014 21:35:11 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkwKAMCH5VO9qp2K/2dsb2JhbABagw2vPwEBAQaDcpx8hj4Xd4REHF8TISokiFegYqUqhXyIfwEBhSEFixiREAGUeIN3HYE9 Received: from dsl-189-170-157-138-dyn.prod-infinitum.com.mx (HELO morena.maps.net) ([189.170.157.138]) by nlpiport21.prodigy.net.mx with SMTP; 08 Aug 2014 21:35:11 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 19:35:10 -0700 From: Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Print using LPR/LPD from Chromium Message-ID: <20140808193510.64fe7f57@morena.maps.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; i386-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 02:35:22 -0000 Hi: I am trying to print from Chromium, but in the dialog, only appear one option Print to a file =46rom Claws Mail appear the option Print to LPR Thanks in advance Martin Paredes Hermosillo, Sonora Mexico From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 03:25:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F055537A for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 03:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3F3122A5 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 03:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FD1E2542D; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 05:25:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s793PBjg001969; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 05:25:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 05:25:11 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez Subject: Re: Print using LPR/LPD from Chromium Message-Id: <20140809052511.dd111b4b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140808193510.64fe7f57@morena.maps.net> References: <20140808193510.64fe7f57@morena.maps.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 03:25:23 -0000 On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 19:35:10 -0700, Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez wrote: > I am trying to print from Chromium, but in the dialog, only appear one > option > > Print to a file > > From Claws Mail appear the option > > Print to LPR Do you have a printer installed? It's possible that the two programs mentioned require CUPS for printing and won't work when just the system's printing service is installed. In worst case, use "print to file" from Chromium, for example to /tmp/chrprint.ps, and then "lpr /tmp/chrprint.ps". You can preview the file with a PS viewer (for example gv). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 05:37:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79E7C614 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 05:37:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nlpiport08.prodigy.net.mx (nlpiport08.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.52.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4579D2FEF for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 05:37:55 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,830,1400043600"; d="scan'208";a="70449666" Received: from nlpiport22.prodigy.net.mx ([148.235.52.109]) by nlpiport08.prodigy.net.mx with ESMTP; 09 Aug 2014 00:37:48 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0GAJqy5VO9qp2K/2dsb2JhbABZgw1SV64NAQEBAQEBBp5Sgh6FKAoBgQsXd4QDAQEEAVYjBQsLGAkTEg8qHhmIOgrFPxeFfIh/AQFPBxaENQWLGYojhm4BgVeTI4N8HS+BDg Received: from dsl-189-170-157-138-dyn.prod-infinitum.com.mx (HELO morena.maps.net) ([189.170.157.138]) by nlpiport22.prodigy.net.mx with SMTP; 09 Aug 2014 00:37:46 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 22:37:46 -0700 From: Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Print using LPR/LPD from Chromium Message-ID: <20140808223746.7517dc74@morena.maps.net> In-Reply-To: <20140809052511.dd111b4b.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20140808193510.64fe7f57@morena.maps.net> <20140809052511.dd111b4b.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; i386-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Polytropon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 05:37:56 -0000 El Sat, 09 Aug 2014 05:25:11 +0200 Polytropon escribi=F3: > On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 19:35:10 -0700, Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez > wrote: > > I am trying to print from Chromium, but in the dialog, only appear > > one option > >=20 > > Print to a file > >=20 > > From Claws Mail appear the option > >=20 > > Print to LPR >=20 > Do you have a printer installed? It's possible that the two > programs mentioned require CUPS for printing and won't work > when just the system's printing service is installed. Yes, I have a printer installed, a HP LaserJet 1018, I can print from CLI and from others programs > In worst case, use "print to file" from Chromium, for example > to /tmp/chrprint.ps, and then "lpr /tmp/chrprint.ps". Already doing this, but I was trying to optimize From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 05:44:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 775D16DA for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 05:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39CEA2088 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 05:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 335453CBE0; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 07:44:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s795i3cM002763; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 07:44:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 07:44:03 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez Subject: Re: Print using LPR/LPD from Chromium Message-Id: <20140809074403.a9658f69.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140808223746.7517dc74@morena.maps.net> References: <20140808193510.64fe7f57@morena.maps.net> <20140809052511.dd111b4b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140808223746.7517dc74@morena.maps.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 05:44:13 -0000 On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 22:37:46 -0700, Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez wrote: > El Sat, 09 Aug 2014 05:25:11 +0200 > Polytropon escribi=F3: > > On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 19:35:10 -0700, Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez > > wrote: > > > I am trying to print from Chromium, but in the dialog, only appear > > > one option > > >=20 > > > Print to a file > > >=20 > > > From Claws Mail appear the option > > >=20 > > > Print to LPR > >=20 > > Do you have a printer installed? It's possible that the two > > programs mentioned require CUPS for printing and won't work > > when just the system's printing service is installed. >=20 > Yes, I have a printer installed, a HP LaserJet 1018, I can print from > CLI and from others programs Okay, in this case you've probably met some of the (luckily few) programs that do not play well with system means for printing. For example, I know that I needed to install CUPS to be able to print from the Opera web browser (even though I actually have no need for CUPS). So a possible solution would be to first examine if the programs in question rely on CUPS, and then you go ahead and install it; make sure to disable system's LPR facility or have the CUPS installation process replace the system tools (check "make config" for the CUPS port). Others than that, I could imagine (NB: not tested!) that some programs check if $PRINTER is defined, which usually isn't when you use the default printer name "lp". I have installed my Laserjet (HP LJ4000 DN) printer with the name "Laserjet" and set $PRINTER accordingly. --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 05:52:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 523AC7D2 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 05:52:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org [192.94.73.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "SDF.ORG" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E16E213E for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 05:52:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:bennett@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.15]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.8/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s795qaq3022145 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Sat, 9 Aug 2014 05:52:36 GMT Received: (from bennett@localhost) by sdf.org (8.14.8/8.12.8/Submit) id s795qaQS027351; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 00:52:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <201408090552.s795qaQS027351@sdf.org> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 00:52:36 -0500 To: kpneal@pobox.com Subject: Re: gvinum raid5 vs. ZFS raidz References: <201408020621.s726LsiA024208@sdf.org> <53DCDBE8.8060704@qeng-ho.org> <201408060556.s765uKJA026937@sdf.org> <53E1FF5F.1050500@qeng-ho.org> <201408070831.s778VhJc015365@sdf.org> <201408070936.s779akMv017524@sdf.org> <201408071106.s77B6JCI005742@sdf.org> <20140808193032.GA42189@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20140808193032.GA42189@neutralgood.org> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 05:52:54 -0000 kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 06:06:19AM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: > > Even just as parity bits, those would amount to only one bit per > > eight bytes, which seems inadequate. OTOH, the 520 bytes thing is > > tickling something in my memory that I can't quite seem to recover, and > > Weren't those drives used on the AS/400? I never worked with the AS/400 and paid little attention to stuff about it, so I really don't know. I had assumed that they used the same disk drive lines that were used on the mainframes. IBM kind of abandoned sectored drives after the 1311 and switched to all count-data|count-key-data drives, so if the AS/400 used the drives being made at the time the AS/400 made its appearance in the market, then the 520 bytes stuff was in relation to non-IBM systems. OTOH, if IBM introduced a new line of drives for the AS/400, then they could have been sectored drives with 520-byte sectors. Scott Bennett, Comm. 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John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 07:51:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 440DA78E for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 07:51:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2B552B10 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 07:51:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home (slackbox.xs4all.nl [83.162.243.5]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s797pYSe098675; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:51:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1FA5F123C9; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:51:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:51:34 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Kent Kuriyama Subject: Re: Information needed for =?utf-8?Q?Dolch?= =?utf-8?Q?_386_portable_computer_1985=C2=B4s?= with Message-ID: <20140809075134.GA23565@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Kent Kuriyama , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" References: <53E55D2F.9040409@hdk5.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 07:51:43 -0000 --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 03:28:17PM -1000, Kent Kuriyama wrote: > Krisztina, >=20 > Al Plant's advice works if you are able to boot into single user mode. > When you boot your Dolch you should be given the option to boot either > single or multi-user. Booting into single user will give you a shell > prompt at which point you are 'root'. Mount the file system as Al advises > and you can then reset the root password. >=20 > If for some reason you can't boot into single user mode then you try > booting a version of the FreeBSD CD ROM into 'repair mode' and then mount > the Dolch's hard drive to reset the password. Old versions of FreeBSD are > available at: That machine probably doesn't have a CD-ROM drive. As far as I could tell It has a 5.25" floppy as standard equipment, and a 3.5" floppy as an option. We're talking seriously ancient hardware here. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT5dMGAAoJEED21dyjijPgXjYQAMZ+pyGkBGLLeq5AgMd5nhJP 5Mak1qJ8QKHae8U8d0+A5wvbTyPsTE4sYV7ZKXqQgnViiOFmamwRgWwIcgrGTRoR avX9iEFCGEZ29Yv3gKdqcTUxwBtwT4fUL1lY3WkkRhW5K39LAnH33oUhDxUN76sd Q+4oYa1PcWxgIrzrDD1hXm9EsjLC0F1nTi66N0gi1Lawp18hjqKVCB1hXaXdIDIx QSJPtiGOW9tWmVPDugfoYVT4QVl5xOuAbuyaMi3c/t4vCAIWbhEQGLuiXx/Qoqt0 btyMqRVwVsgNxn7AXjnT6wgi9gQ4sZ2Q7vk2MzpZNVnBbJ4t6tlS/HAw7SI40e0N XHHICxpJnsiISgRdvYqb/NZk9riiQ3h8eD4XMg7N8uDOEj3qRPFYHdfQOgGLLhS8 /vKapzg+2vsGV8yIVvj/2egm7ic64Yx01JxwsaYhqKm0FYfV+tTBNAgVhP8b79GH 1v3iJYqiZ+JFN1moe59wtU1qEeO/dRxFLpEvCB5mxPK3v24lZaoDdS8248/xAbdI sCGm1ppC7F1xVOJrZPo151+AA8R8A208jQCbl4g3xnr0KwTdJ/mdabkpBAqmftzb zAZa825w7/x5z+2vZ2d7bS0Duw0ZoCulTce5y5L74BHj1ua/It5uzKvGKqHtIuF6 VGP8kESQvmB7EoWlOUd6 =ED+f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 07:54:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D10C92E for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 07:54:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFCD42B31 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 07:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9392759918D5; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 00:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7692959918D4; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 00:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 00:54:55 -0700 From: David Benfell To: al plant Subject: Re: Touchpad issues Message-ID: <20140809075455.GB50165@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140802223804.GA42137@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140808034755.GA98543@home.parts-unknown.org> <53E53DB2.8040609@hdk5.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cmJC7u66zC7hs+87" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53E53DB2.8040609@hdk5.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: "illoai@gmail.com" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 07:54:58 -0000 --cmJC7u66zC7hs+87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 11:14:26AM -1000, al plant wrote: > David Benfell wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 12:22:34PM -0400, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > > =20 > >> I strongly dislike xorg taking over the kernel r=F4le of > >> mediating hardware, so I don't have a HAL-ified xorg, > >> & I have > >> hw.psm.synaptics_support=3D1 > >> in my /boot/loader.conf > >> & I use the old, simple "Driver" "mouse" with /dev/sysmouse > >> (Options "Protocol" "auto"). Letting moused(8) > >> handle the plugging & unplugging of USB mousies > >> works fine & everything I need does what I need. > >> > I have a Linux HP net book and I cant go near the touchpad or it clicks. > I contacted HP and they said they know this happens with some people.=20 > The small switch (iluminated white) above the pad can be depressed to=20 > deactivate the pad. > They tell you to use a USB wireless logitech mouse. > This works fine. >=20 The non-hal solution seems to work tolerably. It's no worse than what I had. The one thing I notice is that moused doesn't seem quite as stable as however it is a hal-ified xorg manages it. On the other hand, and this is the part that seems a win to me, the recovery is simple. One can simply go to a tty--what do you call those things anyway that are prior to xorg and accessible with ?--and issue: service moused restart If something like that happens with the hal version, you have to restart xorg, which could be a lot more disruptive. --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --cmJC7u66zC7hs+87 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT5dPPAAoJEBV64x4SNmArTMkP/01W5BIapIpVC7A/jItvkpaL vZcFnPBrdTVaTl/hhGvWKNz/VgZwqANJRaEyC2HOfMKE0BqhAzhPIUVh6VIMzKwD 4BKl9zteeoFuc0QW0saV4q+nj71gDWspwrb1hHBdg2y7RiTUB3q87bg5Nn6METgn TAq3V4mUUMYtyeN+gVjSIpNSteS2tzBNZ93lSRCGPhr2zNpxB2TQ3Ol/g1JtUpAj 3Ib8TYYEqP0RsMzwqWZSeTqHpjDeOXUxv7kX40wWnL0X9qEI653l1btFoOVNzjqg ahhj3l7gDc64UCTMztwjbuhQt6tI8g9CrHfyAKm6YQU0Qr0OeE6GdZ7F1vgAFOyp bdEcDGEFcoosPJnu0JLncOLq0uZCeyPJzkNfibd1Tsi/6jaJj93qMDlRO6QuavET 8hgerXbagq83UAy9MrSPMvta9oDZBXnXTfyaYNw1IDQhIa/QLxhrSp75BSxjcghP 3GS6L5hxKNR+MsuCYn0ym9LnSkFXffsUyjtfuJ/Stec8snsHJ066i5F4MjO8C6U0 B2xfcWFA62c4t9SuYhDs35Dgv8UY+9cjtMN3Un+ym/MIHNqZv0pmZsuz5XoAbp6+ HMk5kOZgN2QOx3duPsPK+FcK8hOPcl8AWrqHakeLgO0TxKIoMUbqEfAtjfg2Z6X1 gGtWHYt3ee5R7J2BGFe0 =GUwE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cmJC7u66zC7hs+87-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 07:59:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 495269FC for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 07:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (home.parts-unknown.org [50.250.218.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 289572B4D for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 07:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.parts-unknown.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC4B59918D5; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 00:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.parts-unknown.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8DB5259918D4; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 00:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 00:59:43 -0700 From: David Benfell To: Maxim V FIlimonov Subject: Re: it keeps crashing and I don't know why Message-ID: <20140809075943.GD50165@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140808132735.GA2102@home.parts-unknown.org> <53E4DEB7.7070902@pchotshots.com> <20140808165118.GA1769@home.parts-unknown.org> <1843003.yuQaR7ryX4@quad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0IvGJv3f9h+YhkrH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1843003.yuQaR7ryX4@quad> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on home.parts-unknown.org Cc: Brad Mettee , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 07:59:44 -0000 --0IvGJv3f9h+YhkrH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 08:58:40PM +0400, Maxim V FIlimonov wrote: >=20 > Well, what we said right is that your issue is a hardware problem. >=20 The outcome of this seems indeed that one of two memory cards has some sort of catastrophic failure that prevents memtest from completing. Fortunately, I have more than one memory card, and, fortunately, FreeBSD is much more efficient with memory than Linux, so I'm back in full operation with just the one memory card. I'll be okay for the length of time it takes to exchange the bad one. Thanks everyone for your help on this. --=20 David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 if you don't understand the attachment. --0IvGJv3f9h+YhkrH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJT5dTvAAoJEBV64x4SNmAroX4P/33MtUdfduugom+0ynUBHgZO gTrlM73XpZLzP40vSH40nBqErf6fVgFe6k+l6+CRxO5gWvMbykC6tdJUSOXdlo75 BIiPufSIzQEsQCyIR4rldQI5m6dK5RkH/CfW3HfOu6ET2UNBUJfHjgfjZD3nIZaT iAvo9OtFaixdWAoblnBuHRKy6oHYAFA84aVtpJwS88TRfjfmepKi8aLSezbyG3z9 ktcWQQH0qw90IcwN+OpHRNAXDQdoR7ixZkeIMDQHc32mC4vb2hX4M/iVEAYmBoT6 cBIg49ir78K+thexzdexRmmsgNEysdEbiiFaybCZbTX60z8mWJ4H5kqYQH4AJhwq OAGRzS3MJ//do/ps5/pxHlLD3srQC1tOWTwQ/uhBwWfeZOt8eGBPVsxU3jkb9dwN U5Bbvv5h2OGThg5tJObyffbhnjxyYcCWFcEs9agDmOehh57qWbxiY6NSpYShwz5v vZTQfrPcSuiSzDqaSjRGxUNh0bnoNyzxoVHXcflAsZfv/tT2ZImDpjdaMoj2///X l6P1ZdhAr0Es+i8cKtBljWUArUDXA3fWCzWAaZBZdDHoTHsZgzlfwDRNygDIeKFa 27Ynngm0mtKQ9RHuXy+Fd6dzNM0+6+mcC/nIONqYxvz/uLCGOzU7tUi0q3EgiZp4 wcCzBlnULX47dWUke80M =MOQo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0IvGJv3f9h+YhkrH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 09:02:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6E01890 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:02:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x22b.google.com (mail-wg0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FEF3222F for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:02:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id l18so6370608wgh.2 for ; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 02:02:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SrnxXATiLo4BvTa5a+z/Q4L46yBvD4GiHdnS0k8p0/g=; b=OPSfOPvUOetkX5pw7t7Mq7tueefpRTcS1AxDhzygeGrtpGuzxLL9GYEi5lfHPID2T1 E8Nc0HUg1w/R/d0LMuR6nwS6G8V80yKcLO969gKwN4yvR7ppC3/qhu8zxLgXYFiIhJ3e /F0/htq/KSoGd0T8c0BlE4VKuhVcaGupf7OMMX9I+D3b8PTQQnlS5sgMxTKuZ0VLrcuy hpFeZeSF6157XznyIXV6820JTqrlP1g/dVi8JJfQS/nTO6QYfVBN8evqH+ZCFTANy/Aw diAmlsWgn13W2+MlJ3zPFFHXs6KslUd/JDdSTM7vPXli4clBASrum+XiMHNV7dOGzOF1 wb3w== X-Received: by 10.194.8.35 with SMTP id o3mr37303121wja.3.1407574962716; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 02:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (host86-139-236-94.range86-139.btcentralplus.com. [86.139.236.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d2sm16757058wiy.13.2014.08.09.02.02.39 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Aug 2014 02:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53E5E3AC.80306@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:02:36 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: pkg upgrade xorg versions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 09:02:44 -0000 Hi, I've added the WITH_NEW_XORG repo to pkg(8) config. Just running pkg upgrade now so my kde4 desktop will get upgraded; however, I've just noticed xorg-server is being upgraded from 1.7.7_11 to 1.7.7_13, I'm wondering if it will need to be upgraded to version 1.12.x to support WITH_NEW_XORG and the new KDE4 environment. Is this correct, or do I need to intervene at some stage to change it? Jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 09:12:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57A06DA4 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x22c.google.com (mail-we0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E327B2419 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f172.google.com with SMTP id x48so6629118wes.3 for ; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 02:12:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ydpWitBJYucPbjWs8xsLUFFtHOzId3DrPw7Uge4cYag=; b=YD8q8EVjr+tP1y+s9V/VvK28GqyHV7FjTgY7yBEIMWdzwmMKFyPDPjEcq0SWMjsmlF OwYxDcnY/dgg9rs7cgAboCHTLmEGyHfKbQvr7dqZknFtb0ZD/ZAAKxscOXJqYIN2YZIO UY8u2o7pCnHMWaVr8ZdRC62dbYMugbLh8zw/nytKx5l2nCTEFAEgH8dHYsBPUPKbmcU0 gzJEAULUkKMdGBvgMuLwh8JW5klIoAqYvNWrFD4UlfGiop09uvmWxgssv8d/rP96aUyl Q4vigkeY69AXRPdrvJqrez5bsjIrPZ5M5M+sNzbMdcfhDLyYxR4JxZmzAXXupYu6OvWr qX6Q== X-Received: by 10.180.20.14 with SMTP id j14mr6799508wie.48.1407575527167; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 02:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (host86-139-236-94.range86-139.btcentralplus.com. [86.139.236.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z5sm23257441wje.49.2014.08.09.02.12.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Aug 2014 02:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53E5E5E2.9030603@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:12:02 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: pkg upgrade xorg versions References: <53E5E3AC.80306@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <53E5E3AC.80306@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 09:12:09 -0000 On 09/08/2014 10:02, Jamie Griffin wrote: > Hi, > > I've added the WITH_NEW_XORG repo to pkg(8) config. Just running pkg > upgrade now so my kde4 desktop will get upgraded; however, I've just > noticed xorg-server is being upgraded from 1.7.7_11 to 1.7.7_13, I'm > wondering if it will need to be upgraded to version 1.12.x to support > WITH_NEW_XORG and the new KDE4 environment. > > Is this correct, or do I need to intervene at some stage to change it? > > Jamie Just wanted to add: some KDE packages are being upgraded from the regular FreeBSD repo, others are being upgraded from WITH_NEW_XORG repo; for example: kde-workspace: 4.10.5_1 -> 4.11.9 [FreeBSD_new_xorg] kdelibs: 4.10.5_2 -> 4.12.5_3 [FreeBSD] As you can see, there looks like a version mis-match as well. I feel nervous about this upgrade, do you think there are going to be problems? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 11:44:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 111B67DD for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 11:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout08.plus.net (avasout08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC9E20E5 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 11:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout08 with smtp id cbjs1o002516WCc01bjtlq; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 12:43:54 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=TaoYtHgh c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=_gelNhxkGRwA:10 a=C9nOxMg0ZsAA:10 a=ZTb9aqGL9YkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=wnGFCj8CiLgHszbaNTUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.83) (envelope-from ) id 1XG53v-0001Df-P5; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 12:43:52 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 12:43:50 +0100 Message-ID: <19024519.SaFIUbSTh0@curlew.lan> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.5 (FreeBSD/9.1-RELEASE-p17; KDE/4.12.5; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <53E5E5E2.9030603@gmail.com> References: <53E5E3AC.80306@gmail.com> <53E5E5E2.9030603@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Subject: Re: pkg upgrade xorg versions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) Cc: Jamie Griffin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 11:44:04 -0000 On Saturday 09 August 2014 10:12:02 Jamie Griffin wrote: > Just wanted to add: some KDE packages are being upgraded from the > regular FreeBSD repo, others are being upgraded from WITH_NEW_XORG > repo; for example: > > kde-workspace: 4.10.5_1 -> 4.11.9 [FreeBSD_new_xorg] > kdelibs: 4.10.5_2 -> 4.12.5_3 [FreeBSD] > > As you can see, there looks like a version mis-match as well. Those are the latest versions. I'm using KDE here with those versions built from ports without problems. curlew:/home/mike% pkg info kde-workspace kdelibs kde-workspace-4.11.9 kdelibs-4.12.5_3 Well, not exactly problem free, I do have an issue with desktop search not functioning correctly but I think that's an unrelated nepomuk or virtuoso issue. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 13:56:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FE54F0C for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 13:56:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04AC62D1E for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 13:56:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-236.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.236]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s79Du4N0018749 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 08:56:05 -0500 Message-ID: <53E629EB.7050604@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 09:02:19 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: install xorg question .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 13:56:13 -0000 I am rying to install xorg-7.7 under FreeBSD 9.3 apparently needed by XFCE. I get the following: [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:56:00am] 353 % pkg install xorg-7.7 Updating repository catalogue FreeBSD repository is up-to-date All repositories are up-to-date The following 131 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): New packages to be INSTALLED: xorg: 7.7 xorg-libraries: 7.7_1 . . . xf86-input-keyboard: 1.8.0_2 The process will require 98 MB more space 37 MB to be downloaded Proceed with this action [y/N]: y Fetching xorg-apps-7.7.txz: 100% of 2 kB pkg: xorg-apps-7.7 failed checksum from repository [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:56:19am] 354 % I had already fetched the 1st part of the list. How do I work around this :-/ ? -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 14:09:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 585593D0 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 14:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DCB92E52 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 14:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-236.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.236]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s79E9KY5029366 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:09:20 -0500 Message-ID: <53E62D07.2030703@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 09:15:35 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: ipfw question .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 14:09:22 -0000 Why is there a limit on the # of logged denials by ipfw ? Aug 6 18:52:20 kabini1 kernel: ipfw: limit 500 reached on entry 65500 -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 14:15:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03695574 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 14:15:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FB022FE4 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 14:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s79EF7Hu037266 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:15:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s79EF7Hu037266 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s79EF7Hu037266; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral Message-ID: <53E62CE0.6040807@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:14:56 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw question .... References: <53E62D07.2030703@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <53E62D07.2030703@hiwaay.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8LSDqagda1vhaPPLScTUJSBUcFOJ7C5Ni" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 14:15:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --8LSDqagda1vhaPPLScTUJSBUcFOJ7C5Ni Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/08/2014 15:15, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > Why is there a limit on the # of logged denials by ipfw ? >=20 >=20 > Aug 6 18:52:20 kabini1 kernel: ipfw: limit 500 reached on entry 65500 Because otherwise someone could DoS you by causing ipfw to fill up a partition with log messages simply by sending a stream of packets at you over the network. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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Mahaffey III" , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: ipfw question .... References: <53E62D07.2030703@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <53E62D07.2030703@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.74 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 14:15:39 -0000 On 8/9/2014 10:15 AM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > Why is there a limit on the # of logged denials by ipfw ? The limit is there to prevent conditions where syslog would be overwhelmed with hits, as in the case for example of a DoS. You can change it as discussed in the man pages If net.inet.ip.fw.verbose is set to 1, packets will be logged to syslogd(8) with a LOG_SECURITY facility up to a maximum of logamount packets. If no logamount is specified, the limit is taken from the sysctl variable net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit. In both cases, a value of 0 means unlimited logging. Once the limit is reached, logging can be re-enabled by clearing the logging counter or the packet counter for that entry, see the resetlog command. ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 14:26:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BE9A7FF for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 14:26:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C64F420CB for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 14:26:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s79EQUOl037586 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:26:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=infracaninophile.co.uk DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s79EQUOl037586 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1407594392; bh=/w0s9ZUCRNM940xPuNZ62byr4bZ6x2o3rduMn6acyZw=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Sat,=2009=20Aug=202014=2015:26:25=20+0100|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20freebsd-questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20install=20xorg=20question=20....| References:=20<53E629EB.7050604@hiwaay.net>|In-Reply-To:=20<53E629 EB.7050604@hiwaay.net>; b=AH84FZKVX0QLT7IeW+jdiVBsH10S23URYbEgG7uwUlRnhspUjY6HqDIqyh0WziXfJ 0TSH/UUtWXQ95KKrlNNPO7OVcJPXyec3XTelIWpkEasXwMUP+wf/G4aw9FQu/5MebY UhnEPIy67bIgqUnMWF5y/tIaHwHRmHkig6qRfOLw= Message-ID: <53E62F91.8020100@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:26:25 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: install xorg question .... References: <53E629EB.7050604@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <53E629EB.7050604@hiwaay.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 OpenPGP: id=E1ECF9BB Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eKgcScul6sV6IK4eq8rDc4nFUUVeHrHlU" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 14:26:39 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --eKgcScul6sV6IK4eq8rDc4nFUUVeHrHlU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/08/2014 15:02, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > I am rying to install xorg-7.7 under FreeBSD 9.3 apparently needed by > XFCE. I get the following: > [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:56:00am] 353 % pkg install xorg-7.7 > Updating repository catalogue > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date > All repositories are up-to-date > The following 131 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): >=20 > New packages to be INSTALLED: > xorg: 7.7 > xorg-libraries: 7.7_1 > . > . > . > xf86-input-keyboard: 1.8.0_2 >=20 > The process will require 98 MB more space > 37 MB to be downloaded >=20 > Proceed with this action [y/N]: y > Fetching xorg-apps-7.7.txz: 100% of 2 kB > pkg: xorg-apps-7.7 failed checksum from repository > [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:56:19am] 354 % >=20 >=20 > I had already fetched the 1st part of the list. How do I work around > this :-/ ? This is quite possibly a bug that occurs when upgrading from pkg-1.2.7 to pkg-1.3.5.1. The solution is to run: # pkg clean -a # pkg update -f That will delete everything you've got in your package cache and force pkg to refetch all the catalogues from the repositories you're using. Oh -- depending on your hardware, you might want to use the new-xorg repository. See https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics/WITH_NEW_XORG http://daemon-notes.com/articles/desktop/kde Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk --eKgcScul6sV6IK4eq8rDc4nFUUVeHrHlU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJT5i+VXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkAT1TMQAIWgYVLp9o58mpuW6vUpPKDA Nf45RQmnYNptd3S4GsKhRlAuauoubinCHCFO4zigJWMwaNnRIhqbr+cyVm+xFyMg d0RiV2OzN382a5oUJBrELJspSqIixw/gMXUQmvIaBd3x2EKlDlBbRPQhFCrBZn3H PqoaS7WL3yYYArIAugjJikMJBo1aTOIwHMcfXafML6TxlpqU5ZrQ/AWBTb2V3Y+/ wnfVYun1l7DaCa+ulpHnTKURSDKrNLGjCSwEvM0i7dkQgGzHeZWfgn+gXz5ys7EY CwouWPaAuTeauIw8ovdC9VDVB7PLHFpFgeWiHUlZj37Vj+p3qAxFZo50IUPaoica E0Zw7gEgQg8e0EU2tOMIPi8h4srx61lOzUkwwQOTWrTEOQqdIxg9LG4XEbhcSk4X QVunTFbrXsxFAGvCbd2UMY+HfXvwYe+nC6ib9TF71goiyVh5ordjKErWYyA3uhAi QjLKuDVIDEAxUlG1//hnSNQT7TOE6AfwaEjhQfxKWdCutTe5oZmwI2fsc2Jr79n7 dwV44LzUpuCH+TNyB2CynjYiHoUB6D2lNc8tX73BBbIpQYle4VMh4UEOa3Xqth8T eW6Ga3z4xq2NflL7Vq6TMGNcOlEs8r3YHxKibetbOrq8nJT05SdiW/yygUSfJxSV ApefqLR12ZrQVM8yyuwt =zDcJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eKgcScul6sV6IK4eq8rDc4nFUUVeHrHlU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 14:33:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 626AC931 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 14:33:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FD5B2194 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 14:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-236.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.236]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s79EX0ge009008 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:33:00 -0500 Message-ID: <53E63293.3090901@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 09:39:15 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: ipfw question .... References: <53E62D07.2030703@hiwaay.net> <53E62CEE.7060202@sentex.net> In-Reply-To: <53E62CEE.7060202@sentex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 14:33:02 -0000 On 08/09/14 09:15, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 8/9/2014 10:15 AM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> >> Why is there a limit on the # of logged denials by ipfw ? > > The limit is there to prevent conditions where syslog would be > overwhelmed with hits, as in the case for example of a DoS. You can > change it as discussed in the man pages > > > If net.inet.ip.fw.verbose is set to 1, packets will be logged to > syslogd(8) with a LOG_SECURITY facility up to a maximum of logamount > packets. If no logamount is specified, the limit is taken from the > sysctl variable net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit. In both cases, a value > of 0 means unlimited logging. > > Once the limit is reached, logging can be re-enabled by clearing the > logging counter or the packet counter for that entry, see the resetlog > command. > > ---Mike > > Hmmmm .... OK, sounds good. I would like a bit more granularity on deciding what to log & what to not log. For example, 99% of the time, I would drop denials from my LAN, except when I am trying to figure out why I can't get NFS working, for example. I'd like to be able to choose that when I (re)start ipfw. I am using the default rc.firewall located in /etc, BTW. I might like to specify denial-logging by protocol *and* port #, rather than just port # .... Is there a way to implement any of this ? Thanks & TIA .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 14:41:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D829C81 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 14:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B1BD21ED for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 14:41:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-236.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.236]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s79EfnqI012917 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:41:49 -0500 Message-ID: <53E6349B.7070900@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 09:47:55 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: install xorg question .... References: <53E629EB.7050604@hiwaay.net> <53E62F91.8020100@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <53E62F91.8020100@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 14:41:51 -0000 On 08/09/14 09:26, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 09/08/2014 15:02, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> I am rying to install xorg-7.7 under FreeBSD 9.3 apparently needed by >> XFCE. I get the following: >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:56:00am] 353 % pkg install xorg-7.7 >> Updating repository catalogue >> FreeBSD repository is up-to-date >> All repositories are up-to-date >> The following 131 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): >> >> New packages to be INSTALLED: >> xorg: 7.7 >> xorg-libraries: 7.7_1 >> . >> . >> . >> xf86-input-keyboard: 1.8.0_2 >> >> The process will require 98 MB more space >> 37 MB to be downloaded >> >> Proceed with this action [y/N]: y >> Fetching xorg-apps-7.7.txz: 100% of 2 kB >> pkg: xorg-apps-7.7 failed checksum from repository >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 8:56:19am] 354 % >> >> >> I had already fetched the 1st part of the list. How do I work around >> this :-/ ? > This is quite possibly a bug that occurs when upgrading from pkg-1.2.7 > to pkg-1.3.5.1. The solution is to run: > > # pkg clean -a > # pkg update -f > > That will delete everything you've got in your package cache and force > pkg to refetch all the catalogues from the repositories you're using. > > Oh -- depending on your hardware, you might want to use the new-xorg > repository. See > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics/WITH_NEW_XORG > http://daemon-notes.com/articles/desktop/kde > > Cheers, > > Matthew > Thanks, worked like a champ !!!!! -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 14:54:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8481FDA for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 14:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39A5D245B for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 14:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-236.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.236]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s79Esj32023098 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:54:45 -0500 Message-ID: <53E637AC.3010008@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:01:00 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: ps question .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 14:54:46 -0000 .... is there a way to get ps to show me *everything* running ? 'ps -elf' works nicely under Fedora 14 .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 15:01:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7990A4A7 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:01:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E037251A for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:01:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C0943CC07; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 17:01:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s79F1oGd001976; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 17:01:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 17:01:50 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: ps question .... Message-Id: <20140809170150.0b1c9486.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53E637AC.3010008@hiwaay.net> References: <53E637AC.3010008@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:01:56 -0000 On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:01:00 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > .... is there a way to get ps to show me *everything* running ? 'ps > -elf' works nicely under Fedora 14 .... What about "ps aux"? See "man ps" for details. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 15:08:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 970C0939 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CF4256A for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:08:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 36269186 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 22:08:16 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s79F8GJZ065845 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 22:08:16 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id s79F8G5J065844 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 22:08:16 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 22:08:16 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd-update to 9.3 from 9.2 Message-ID: <20140809150815.GA65785@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <4CA0146F-BD4E-4613-9050-DB0C1FDB7EA4@lafn.org> <53C8B7A2.1060504@my.hennepintech.edu> <494D0D9E-ED60-4187-ABCF-8E18CDEAB911@lafn.org> <53C8E2A7.6000000@my.hennepintech.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53C8E2A7.6000000@my.hennepintech.edu> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:08:18 -0000 Andrew Berg wrote: > The best thing to do since you need to build world and kernel is to > just use svn and do all updates via source. freebsd-update does > nothing for you. Grab a completely new copy of the 9.3 source with > svn and then build and install it. Would it be safe to use freebsd-update to install binary security patches after upgrading a system from source? -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 15:11:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20771A1F for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C85D02612 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:11:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-236.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.236]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s79FBr4s031912 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 10:11:53 -0500 Message-ID: <53E63BB0.2080700@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:18:08 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: ps question .... References: <53E637AC.3010008@hiwaay.net> <20140809170150.0b1c9486.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140809170150.0b1c9486.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:11:55 -0000 On 08/09/14 10:01, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:01:00 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> .... is there a way to get ps to show me *everything* running ? 'ps >> -elf' works nicely under Fedora 14 .... > What about "ps aux"? See "man ps" for details. > > > Thanks, I forgot about the different behavior w/ & w/o the minus sign :-/ .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 15:22:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1371CEBC for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAE7C26EA for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-111-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.111.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DBC73CC32; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 17:22:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s79FMdp0002132; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 17:22:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 17:22:39 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: ps question .... Message-Id: <20140809172239.ae877c88.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <53E63BB0.2080700@hiwaay.net> References: <53E637AC.3010008@hiwaay.net> <20140809170150.0b1c9486.freebsd@edvax.de> <53E63BB0.2080700@hiwaay.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:22:42 -0000 On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:18:08 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 08/09/14 10:01, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:01:00 -0500, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> > >> .... is there a way to get ps to show me *everything* running ? 'ps > >> -elf' works nicely under Fedora 14 .... > > What about "ps aux"? See "man ps" for details. > > > > > > > > > Thanks, I forgot about the different behavior w/ & w/o the minus sign > :-/ .... As far as I can tell, there is no difference in behaviour. The commands % ps aux and % ps -aux as well as % ps -a -u -x produce the same output. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 15:37:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EE712C2 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:37:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02BC7280D for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:37:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-236.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.236]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s79FbmJv013779 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 10:37:48 -0500 Message-ID: <53E641C3.4040409@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:44:03 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: X11 setup .... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:37:50 -0000 .... I am following the instructions at [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.h tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through everything up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail, bit didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD Jaguar Kabini based, quad core, 1.3 GHz, 25W, gfx on die: Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU) xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]" The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the screen, w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse, & it moves around, although click-&-drag does nothing, & I might have the grid, although it is pixel-by-pixel, not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting page is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. References 1. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 16:17:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3FEBD78 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:17:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3181F2B9F for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:17:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPSA id 36269614 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 23:17:45 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s79GHjHg066326 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 23:17:45 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id s79GHjLh066325 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 23:17:45 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 23:17:45 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cpio and hard links Message-ID: <20140809161745.GB65785@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <13472.1406495024@server1.tristatelogic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <13472.1406495024@server1.tristatelogic.com> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:17:48 -0000 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > > Given a directory "tmp" which contains two files, "foo" and "bar", > both of which are merely hard links to one another, the following > command will, apparently, produce an archive of the directory in > question which contains only a single instance of the actual file > contents: > > tar cvf tmp.tar tmp > > The resulting tmp.tar file can later be unpacked, using tar, resulting > in a directory structure which exactly mirrors the original "tmp" > directory, including preservation of the hard link(s). > > I note however that, given the same original directory structure, the > following command generates an archive file containing two complete > instances of the file data: > > find tmp -depth -print | cpio -ovm > tmp.cpio > > For the the cpio program that is part of FreeBSD, is there any option > which would have the effect of causing cpio to only archive a single > instance of the data associated with each unique inode... as tar apparently > does, by default? Try 'cpio -H ustar'. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 16:21:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE463E8A for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:21:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-x22e.google.com (mail-ig0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 817692D01 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:21:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f174.google.com with SMTP id c1so2414805igq.13 for ; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 09:21:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Xzcf9ik7MyiB8os/boxS/ZfncyMRPXSV2tugFvDZimU=; b=yMWOFab8vhUvnd52ByMCt0EYi0XD2mwHozWoIdMh6GmYFGfs2734nbnk2PnTzTN+L6 A8olUFv2iGkz5P96wLg8+hIQWiqnBU54nHNf/XXGj3LjTR3ZRtSuyVJeMiRf6owgBNxo CaIvGnfb4bEtQoF3ZV//l4OFnW9hgoE4TvjkmAXTmyx7jr//ii6KgosuE8u+q43PMLzT Ehpv2tmhn6i3lHDr+a5Bk0Xd1iygZt6U/ufAEMM96m6Xk3lj1nIRS0TkhUMMmyw7CCLH V8GzzHjCRgVDlb4n9mdzQwHhMqXFdKcDY31oM1TILRZx53Aa9gELY8LGEq8ssLcYjPbw MKYw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.107.7 with SMTP id gy7mr14657155igb.15.1407601290878; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 09:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.28.211 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:21:30 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: pkg schema upgrade? From: Patrick To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:21:31 -0000 I'm getting the following warning/error with pkg on FreeBSD 10 (since it self-updated to 1.3.5.1: pkg: Repo FreeBSD needs schema upgrade from 2006 to 2010 but it is opened readonly pkg: need to re-create repo FreeBSD to upgrade schema version It sure would be nice if in addition to saying what needs to happen, it said how to make it happen. I don't see anything in the man page that talks about this, and my Google-fu is failing me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 16:43:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D2712AF for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:43:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0086F2EB8 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:43:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s79Gh77j040832 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 17:43:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s79Gh77j040832 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s79Gh77j040832; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none; dkim-atps=neutral Message-ID: <53E64F8E.7080401@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 17:42:54 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg schema upgrade? References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="m3kDxl32x3sEJF8qUs34KDLvw2ogPnciC" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:43:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --m3kDxl32x3sEJF8qUs34KDLvw2ogPnciC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/08/2014 17:21, Patrick wrote: > I'm getting the following warning/error with pkg on FreeBSD 10 (since i= t > self-updated to 1.3.5.1: >=20 >=20 > pkg: Repo FreeBSD needs schema upgrade from 2006 to 2010 but it is open= ed > readonly >=20 > pkg: need to re-create repo FreeBSD to upgrade schema version >=20 >=20 > It sure would be nice if in addition to saying what needs to happen, it= > said how to make it happen. I don't see anything in the man page that t= alks > about this, and my Google-fu is failing me. # pkg clean -a # pkg update -f should restore sanity. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --m3kDxl32x3sEJF8qUs34KDLvw2ogPnciC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJT5k+ZXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkAT4rEP/jrbrOT5jd6ofRJfqqDvh6UY f1pTLmjRV0q7jB9PSw46KEw4vAJCt5xJhuDz8CqttNkXiG5S71xuMFj6Oei2zT2w UnvRLdpoicRbUb8Njm8YYp8oWdgl6XIH1GbuNLXy2Z7w6xomYf4JZd9Yq5/ybj3y 4WeIqnT1MHaxYsInFxxt1FENCNCi650NQhaceqbnOHxOfy+b948hEwdABKoFzWA5 gDJfZ0VYCVo3wj/2Z47zMCKT1aDcOEOjxgUWYTKS5IkDgcmHBAREczb0Dwz7UIIs ebeW7Tm4GS4hdmfVPjTEIR2naHYeV/cvmkLRbFLCOyCWyoc6P23A5xdUZjFfixsy YwHhzRXj9iFTxQmRTfytZ5h9XKJ0jUpRgmG03VEIsStBKyxxNVU38SZFdzhs79r3 4Rw+iA8njVqwzuYYU5vRLpi6sJMkh2AHBrpFYuS/tbvLue8oTS2Wy43yg/Yo5xci /XQr87FX0fpNAL/4KBb9Z0RVH5DwFpPqgN8cohe3bv6BG8U7fQ1Dj02uI+CaLwC2 zUqcTo5z/yzVJCHSJCwbdqVnAcOtf1g/4KzCiX/0idL9NS7LZ2Z1n1BbtpiAa8wu Ynch4cs5qistXAar8cYn8X7V9B45Pczu0yOm5V7TYKA6QZ6qa92RCqijBd/5f1Hi AflJHxHIvKY/wuHgUJMW =57rP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --m3kDxl32x3sEJF8qUs34KDLvw2ogPnciC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 17:03:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59EBE57A for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 17:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD7B2126 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 17:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1C4346B42; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 13:03:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s79H3KrC027602; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 13:03:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s79H3KCd027599; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 13:03:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 13:03:20 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: X11 setup .... In-Reply-To: <53E641C3.4040409@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: References: <53E641C3.4040409@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 09 Aug 2014 13:03:20 -0400 (EDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 17:03:21 -0000 On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > .... I am following the instructions at > [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.h > tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through everything > up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail, bit > didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD Jaguar > Kabini based, quad core, 1.3 GHz, 25W, gfx on die: > Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with > Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU) > xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]" > The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the screen, > w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse, & it moves around, although > click-&-drag does nothing, & I might have the grid, although it is > pixel-by-pixel, not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting page > is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA .... > -- Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you know a lot about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe to the X11 mailing list or just search the archives of that list. You can see if you are good to go by trying startx. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 17:39:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCEBFA69 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 17:39:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EE442496 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 17:39:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bucksport.safeport.com (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]) by bucksport.safeport.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s79HdgAL042308 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 13:39:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 13:39:42 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pkg-register question Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (bucksport.safeport.com [198.74.231.101]); Sat, 09 Aug 2014 13:39:42 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 17:39:49 -0000 I think this was a user error. I have been making & killing systems (vmware is cool) to figure out pkg and how to use freebsd-update to update jails. So I am fuzzy on things I did not actually document along the way. Anyway I was checking a system that had pkg, subversion, and ezjail. All were registered except ezjail. I could tell from /usr/ports that I had build it so I must have done so before adding 'WITH_PKGNG=yes' to make.conf. I assumed one would fix this with 'pkg register' but after man and google I decided to use 'pkg check -r -v -a'. This [seemingly] worked. The logical thing would seem to be 'pkg register -x ezjail'. Except no such syntax exists. Does 'pkg register metadatafile' mean use the full name? _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 18:16:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB91C150 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 18:16:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6AC0279B for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 18:16:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-131.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.131]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s79IGP4N012134 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 13:16:26 -0500 Message-ID: <53E666F0.809@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 13:22:40 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: X11 setup .... References: <53E641C3.4040409@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:16:28 -0000 On 08/09/14 12:03, doug wrote: > On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> .... I am following the instructions at >> [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.h >> tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through everything >> up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail, bit >> didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD Jaguar >> Kabini based, quad core, 1.3 GHz, 25W, gfx on die: >> Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with >> Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU) >> xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]" >> The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the screen, >> w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse, & it moves around, although >> click-&-drag does nothing, & I might have the grid, although it is >> pixel-by-pixel, not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting page >> is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA .... >> -- > Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you > know a lot about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe to > the X11 mailing list or just search the archives of that list. > > You can see if you are good to go by trying startx. > Thanks. My question was poorly articulated, should have been 'am I OK for XFCE ?' .... I plunged on & started XFCE, & it works mostly pretty good, but the gfx is definitely spotty, lotta flickering, background on desktop looks a bit dicey, window frames are granular & flickery. I just looked through /var/log/Xorg.0.log & there are *no* errors (no '(EE)'s) .... what now :-/ .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 18:20:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 250B84E0 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 18:20:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDF3C27CC for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 18:20:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-131.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.131]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s79IKvrH015010 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 13:20:57 -0500 Message-ID: <53E66800.8000005@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 13:27:12 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: tcsh login question .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:20:59 -0000 .... when I shell into my newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 desktop, or login w/ a console login, everything under tcsh gets initialized AOK. I then activated xdm to manage logins (I like it that way), the /ect/csh.login file clearly does *not* get sourced. I have many aliases, prompt setting, & other goodies which are absent. The tcsh manpage clearly says it will be sourced at login, what gives ? -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 18:26:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6794D809 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 18:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smarthost.sentex.ca", Issuer "smarthost.sentex.ca" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FD012892 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 18:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a] (saphire3.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s79IQqYS058052; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 14:26:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <53E667D2.7070601@sentex.net> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 14:26:26 -0400 From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William A. Mahaffey III" , "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: ipfw question .... References: <53E62D07.2030703@hiwaay.net> <53E62CEE.7060202@sentex.net> <53E63293.3090901@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: <53E63293.3090901@hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.74 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:26:58 -0000 On 8/9/2014 10:39 AM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >> >> If net.inet.ip.fw.verbose is set to 1, packets will be logged to >> syslogd(8) with a LOG_SECURITY facility up to a maximum of logamount >> packets. If no logamount is specified, the limit is taken from the >> sysctl variable net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit. In both cases, a value >> of 0 means unlimited logging. >> >> Once the limit is reached, logging can be re-enabled by clearing the >> logging counter or the packet counter for that entry, see the resetlog >> command. >> >> ---Mike >> >> > > > port #, rather than just port # .... Is there a way to implement any of > this ? Thanks & TIA .... It there in the man pages of ipfw how to do it on a per rule basis. logamount can be set on a per rule basis. ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 18:39:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32863D84 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 18:39:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B32D229B1 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 18:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s79IdgbK043426 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 19:39:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=infracaninophile.co.uk DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s79IdgbK043426 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1407609583; bh=gGD/MVD2On6pf6nSzzE9EQ1G3giMJj5x2lrELXB8cR4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Sat,=2009=20Aug=202014=2019:39:32=20+0100|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20freebsd-questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20pkg-register=20question|Reference s:=20| In-Reply-To:=20; b=fREUPtkGZjLVsk3mom92PuBj+D5HHITzIHkXq3Xii2cxPPpP6dkLsVe/ovZqJOsnM 5cf+UfTaiVraJRxjo+at8jz3A/IPpmTGDTsDtt3p6YURGsrCpZNycI1VWH7or3txvh 3vBg/cnZGmlLQJM0Z8Q1bkNDJL29+7zagVQchjJk= Message-ID: <53E66AE4.7040004@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:39:32 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg-register question References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 OpenPGP: id=E1ECF9BB Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cswq6iPdNr8Nlx4BdcbepEhntlD4dI7vp" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:39:51 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --cswq6iPdNr8Nlx4BdcbepEhntlD4dI7vp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/08/2014 18:39, doug@safeport.com wrote: > I think this was a user error. I have been making & killing systems > (vmware is cool) to figure out pkg and how to use freebsd-update to > update jails. So I am fuzzy on things I did not actually document along= > the way. >=20 > Anyway I was checking a system that had pkg, subversion, and ezjail. Al= l > were registered except ezjail. I could tell from /usr/ports that I had > build it so I must have done so before adding 'WITH_PKGNG=3Dyes' to > make.conf. >=20 > I assumed one would fix this with 'pkg register' but after man and > google I decided to use 'pkg check -r -v -a'. This [seemingly] worked. > > The logical thing would seem to be 'pkg register -x ezjail'. Except no > such syntax exists. Does 'pkg register metadatafile' mean use the full > name? That's not really the intended use for pkg-register. It takes a previously written +MANIFEST which describes some software that has already been installed on a system and inserts the data from the +MANIFEST plus checksums etc it calculates from the installed files into the package database. The +MANIFEST is the 'metadatafile' the man page is talking about. Before staging, this was the way the ports operated. Now, with staging, you use the very similar pkg-create to build a package from the staging area, and then simply install that package. Not sure what the long term plans are for 'pkg register' but making it obsolete in the future probably should not be discounted. What you probably wanted was 'pkg convert' -- or in fact, the pkg2ng script which is basically a wrapper around pkg convert. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk --cswq6iPdNr8Nlx4BdcbepEhntlD4dI7vp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJT5mrtXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2NTNBNjhCOTEzQTRFNkNGM0UxRTEzMjZC QjIzQUY1MThFMUE0MDEzAAoJELsjr1GOGkATweYP/RIkWKxI6cUa4sgKnoFsOgw6 7VkxbBIRmLWQOOqPjIxPBRCs9ydBkcUEoWYAJqEZVZGaKzgad7L6joPz7L+6NtfN e/I0vIdT3NH2NnmANkuX2AOM3FcQQJbS2gSmAVkpAKBn6aCsvbuAEKCg+blWOK4E 8Ejqcxceooe6B6lCfwauTPFu0eZkRIRq2LXqLQSrX7zCRByHEUq8o/EvDsuDlMUq WijsNYmaU94jkTpsYkyV7eHwRcLZ9zgvh7gf/5xh4szeiXXBec4OOa+XKFclgBJ8 qkUz2BfSlKstYTV08/hjakfINdIhGMGEJ0jrl2Yf/tq/p0eZ0QUVM480YKxl6z0g AwHrDL8sRP3yJaKvIuQ3eHybwwaZL+ThWORS0HENOY5Af/J3+rQ8qUB0OuindA8h 9eVi0u3EKc3NlD7Di0UlPw8yS938mBKD3eBUotqOOueq7wOCOLeHySMUX5IRnF+B MUAIzUtofyQTQQalwjUEHtoAFxsW7UNiMCQzIyobN/ujLKFWEaROcb+gkKK8O1Cm pNzRejFL00oD1aNgaYypTabBVkE8MpLJSZVc4G93+KrllmhZEOHefOf1CdlmKYJx Fq6jPCWBYjIMsG00aRKMk3uFVrUwEqssYQkL42UjQImhQ0RU0RQWbtQUO296ZMUc +ROvBVIPbeNtcRBBImIp =QdBM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cswq6iPdNr8Nlx4BdcbepEhntlD4dI7vp-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 19:48:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E45FC0A for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 19:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x22b.google.com (mail-wg0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 079D620AF for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 19:48:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id l18so6777611wgh.2 for ; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 12:48:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1koiJF+TnJAc7cb1d62YB4I+uupxtuI5OUg/YRinh7s=; b=Fy5gilPsZxvp4ciZIiWgDVdvrahRz+yZF8wQaFJhBXoSQRZ05wZboGLKDekio0Ci1V ayu0uI2AE5yvRbDk1WI0zutm0bfPSY7mASEvwqld8MpjmrsqwXVP0dShocKgbCKQGjvL WDqqG5POp5sp3u+ajUR6LIB0raeSTVbBDFJO54Vtnjtwf8T0A06kBsL1OFJzm2bWQqGQ nf1XmCcDRE679QPKfyQ5Ba1v+l5ZR4WwhQfMh8sE6ODZs2X6b9dnu53E7fATtswiaDJ6 y4KdaxH5wXtCxxE+yLMtopqRbBSYMymw2lsVfhN3sqCmeRV29rqApYii8R4KnmI/8uEe NpJQ== X-Received: by 10.180.212.113 with SMTP id nj17mr6749597wic.46.1407613714342; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 12:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (host86-139-236-94.range86-139.btcentralplus.com. [86.139.236.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gl4sm22296288wib.19.2014.08.09.12.48.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Aug 2014 12:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53E67B0F.2010500@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 20:48:31 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: pkg upgrade failed again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:48:36 -0000 Just waited 9 hours for all the new packages to download to find this happens: Checking for upgrades: 100% Assertion failed: (var == elt->var), function pkg_solve_sat_problem, file pkg_solve.c, line 508. Child process pid=5148 terminated abnormally: Abort trap When with a problematic package qt4-qtestlib conflicting with qt4-testlib, pkg upgraded itself to 1.3.3 first, I thought the solver was supposed to sort things like this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 19:55:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBC41164 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 19:55:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from iprslrsmtp2msp.cpwnetworks.com (rslrsmtp2.opaltelecom.net [62.24.128.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABD42191 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 19:55:49 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhAFAPR75lM+GID9/2dsb2JhbABYhCCuSgEBAQEBAQUBbgGdXYh2d4RCQD0TAxgDAgECAVgIAQGIQqBOpEgXhXyJbYQ2BaNWjVSDXQ X-IPAS-Result: AhAFAPR75lM+GID9/2dsb2JhbABYhCCuSgEBAQEBAQUBbgGdXYh2d4RCQD0TAxgDAgECAVgIAQGIQqBOpEgXhXyJbYQ2BaNWjVSDXQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,833,1400022000"; d="scan'208";a="492464517" Received: from wmsmtp.opaltelecom.net (HELO rslr-smtp-2.cpwnetworks.com) ([62.24.128.253]) by iprslrsmtp2msp.cpwnetworks.com with ESMTP; 09 Aug 2014 20:55:42 +0100 Received: from [92.27.146.104] (helo=imac.local) by rslr-smtp-2.cpwnetworks.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1XGCju-0006QY-4j for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 20:55:42 +0100 Message-ID: <53E67CB8.5050000@rakupottery.org.uk> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 20:55:36 +0100 From: Martin Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: watchdog timeout msk0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:55:51 -0000 I am just installing 10.0 onto a Vaio VGN-SR41N and am getting watchdog timeout on the built in msk0, the system does not seem to recognise an expresscard startech EC1000S which has a realtek chip. I remember the watchdog timeout from years ago on older systems, though not on this machine, can someone remind me and point me in the right direction, cheers -- Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 20:37:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD5A4CE1 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 20:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9C725CB for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 20:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17AE646B0C; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:37:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s79Kbts6046755; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:37:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s79KbtNU046752; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:37:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:37:55 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: X11 setup .... In-Reply-To: <53E666F0.809@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: References: <53E641C3.4040409@hiwaay.net> <53E666F0.809@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:37:55 -0400 (EDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 20:37:57 -0000 On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 08/09/14 12:03, doug wrote: >> On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >>> .... I am following the instructions at >>> [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.h >>> tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through everything >>> up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail, bit >>> didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD Jaguar >>> Kabini based, quad core, 1.3 GHz, 25W, gfx on die: >>> Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with >>> Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU) >>> xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]" >>> The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the screen, >>> w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse, & it moves around, although >>> click-&-drag does nothing, & I might have the grid, although it is >>> pixel-by-pixel, not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting page >>> is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA .... >>> -- >> Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you know a >> lot about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe to the X11 >> mailing list or just search the archives of that list. >> >> You can see if you are good to go by trying startx. > > Thanks. My question was poorly articulated, should have been 'am I OK for > XFCE ?' .... I plunged on & started XFCE, & it works mostly pretty good, but > the gfx is definitely spotty, lotta flickering, background on desktop looks a > bit dicey, window frames are granular & flickery. I just looked through > /var/log/Xorg.0.log & there are *no* errors (no '(EE)'s) .... what now :-/ > .... Ah - my desktop of choice. The X11 list might help. I excel at choosing PCs whose video card are not supported. However flickering and worse in my experience has meant driver errors. Have you tried the vesa driver? You will not get the full use of the card but if that driver does not work it may mean hardware issues. If you have a windows partition, it is good to test the hardware. I am afraid this one is above my pay grade :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 20:46:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27AAA295 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 20:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE320269E for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 20:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8719846B0C; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s79KkwiX047927; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:46:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s79KkvtZ047924; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:46:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:46:57 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: pkg-register question In-Reply-To: <53E66AE4.7040004@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <53E66AE4.7040004@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 20:46:59 -0000 On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, Matthew Seaman wrote: [cut] > That's not really the intended use for pkg-register. It takes a > previously written +MANIFEST which describes some software that has > already been installed on a system and inserts the data from the > +MANIFEST plus checksums etc it calculates from the installed files into > the package database. The +MANIFEST is the 'metadatafile' the man page > is talking about. > > Before staging, this was the way the ports operated. Now, with staging, > you use the very similar pkg-create to build a package from the staging > area, and then simply install that package. Not sure what the long term > plans are for 'pkg register' but making it obsolete in the future > probably should not be discounted. Thank you that was exactly the information I was seeking > What you probably wanted was 'pkg convert' -- or in fact, the pkg2ng > script which is basically a wrapper around pkg convert. Excellent - thanks again From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 21:00:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D3095E9 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 21:00:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2lp0207.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.207]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AF7C27B1 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 21:00:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:e806:9aa:f68a:db81] (2601:2:4780:2fd:e806:9aa:f68a:db81) by BN3PR0301MB0835.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.154.145) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1005.10; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 21:00:03 +0000 Message-ID: <53E68BD0.5090209@my.hennepintech.edu> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:00:00 -0500 From: Andrew Berg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subject: Re: Freebsd-update to 9.3 from 9.2 References: <4CA0146F-BD4E-4613-9050-DB0C1FDB7EA4@lafn.org> <53C8B7A2.1060504@my.hennepintech.edu> <494D0D9E-ED60-4187-ABCF-8E18CDEAB911@lafn.org> <53C8E2A7.6000000@my.hennepintech.edu> <20140809150815.GA65785@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> In-Reply-To: <20140809150815.GA65785@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [2601:2:4780:2fd:e806:9aa:f68a:db81] X-ClientProxiedBy: BN3PR0301CA0008.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.180.146) To BN3PR0301MB0835.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (25.160.154.145) X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;UriScan:; X-Forefront-PRVS: 02981BE340 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(51704005)(24454002)(189002)(199002)(65816999)(2351001)(107046002)(64126003)(107886001)(33656002)(89122001)(99396002)(106356001)(23676002)(87976001)(105586002)(50466002)(87266999)(50986999)(54356999)(80316001)(76176999)(102836001)(74662001)(83322001)(31966008)(95666004)(74502001)(93886004)(65956001)(88552001)(110136001)(81542001)(101416001)(76482001)(83072002)(85852003)(79102001)(4396001)(42186005)(65806001)(80022001)(46102001)(64706001)(92726001)(77096002)(83506001)(92566001)(86362001)(85306004)(59896001)(20776003)(47776003)(77982001)(81342001)(21056001)(75432001)(89472002)(3826002); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BN3PR0301MB0835; H:[IPv6:2601:2:4780:2fd:e806:9aa:f68a:db81]; FPR:; MLV:nov; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; LANG:en; Received-SPF: None (protection.outlook.com: my.HennepinTech.edu does not designate permitted sender hosts) Authentication-Results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=aberg010@my.HennepinTech.edu; X-OriginatorOrg: my.hennepintech.edu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 21:00:20 -0000 On 2014.08.09 10:08, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Andrew Berg wrote: >> The best thing to do since you need to build world and kernel is to >> just use svn and do all updates via source. freebsd-update does >> nothing for you. Grab a completely new copy of the 9.3 source with >> svn and then build and install it. > > Would it be safe to use freebsd-update to install binary security patches > after upgrading a system from source? Since you have your own changes, no. IIRC, there are instructions in the announcements for building only what has changed so that you do not need to rebuild the entire world and kernel. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 21:12:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DC66A6D for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 21:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x22a.google.com (mail-wi0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8E322918 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 21:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f170.google.com with SMTP id f8so3953507wiw.1 for ; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 14:12:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6Y0Se7WZA1/5N6N37jzRNpAqg4BzZG59IqsqYhb2veY=; b=C6NgYzqzD5h4996SFZeXrRCGzTIvTYAL+1ONrQgynq/hjPbIueOKpRiuQcYN4FjftT FTUSW8fzX9Z606S33Tak5PqZTMlMStqWN+kOy5VFELY/gQYXN8Zjf5zRl9nnOizSw6sh Gss5gd0msdhJxO9/PXpLn4guIW68RFWgAayokaD7sPFPqkELJrx1qMoBu2+MsQqpxOBz 1pqD+AZmpiQq2nVop7UnrjkSFDIb0Uy6lb2iaLoBmvcseKhIP/rrf2s0XE+AL7xrOy4i OD0FB+pJc72wrZGBq8KSx4kfhLGsdd61ijzpHz5zwz51YvAh2Slqs5kgsAgKadcTlQWb clHg== X-Received: by 10.180.186.3 with SMTP id fg3mr6853685wic.78.1407618769896; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 14:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kontrol.kode5.net (host86-139-236-94.range86-139.btcentralplus.com. [86.139.236.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fp6sm23043783wic.11.2014.08.09.14.12.48 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Aug 2014 14:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53E68ECF.3070006@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 22:12:47 +0100 From: Jamie Griffin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: seriously hacked off!! Re: pkg upgrade failed again References: <53E67B0F.2010500@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <53E67B0F.2010500@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 21:12:52 -0000 On 09/08/2014 20:48, Jamie Griffin wrote: > Just waited 9 hours for all the new packages to download to find this > happens: > > Checking for upgrades: 100% > Assertion failed: (var == elt->var), function pkg_solve_sat_problem, > file pkg_solve.c, line 508. > Child process pid=5148 terminated abnormally: Abort trap > > When with a problematic package qt4-qtestlib conflicting with > qt4-testlib, pkg upgraded itself to 1.3.3 first, I thought the solver > was supposed to sort things like this? Once again pkg has completely f**ked up my packages and i'll have to remove everything and start over. That's the second time in as many months. Why are these things released when they cause so many problems for people. I actually dread upgrading FreeBSD now because I know it's going to involve stress. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 21:26:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7810E8 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 21:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A34C12A37 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 21:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-131.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.131]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s79LQBbr026702 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:26:11 -0500 Message-ID: <53E6936A.900@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:32:26 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: Re: X11 setup .... References: <53E641C3.4040409@hiwaay.net> <53E666F0.809@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 21:26:13 -0000 On 08/09/14 15:37, doug wrote: > On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> On 08/09/14 12:03, doug wrote: >>> On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>> >>>> .... I am following the instructions at >>>> [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.h >>>> >>>> tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through >>>> everything >>>> up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail, bit >>>> didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD >>>> Jaguar >>>> Kabini based, quad core, 1.3 GHz, 25W, gfx on die: >>>> Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with >>>> Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU) >>>> xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 >>>> Series]" >>>> The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the >>>> screen, >>>> w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse, & it moves around, although >>>> click-&-drag does nothing, & I might have the grid, although it is >>>> pixel-by-pixel, not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting >>>> page >>>> is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA .... >>>> -- >>> Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you >>> know a lot about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe >>> to the X11 mailing list or just search the archives of that list. >>> >>> You can see if you are good to go by trying startx. >> >> Thanks. My question was poorly articulated, should have been 'am I OK >> for XFCE ?' .... I plunged on & started XFCE, & it works mostly >> pretty good, but the gfx is definitely spotty, lotta flickering, >> background on desktop looks a bit dicey, window frames are granular & >> flickery. I just looked through /var/log/Xorg.0.log & there are *no* >> errors (no '(EE)'s) .... what now :-/ .... > Ah - my desktop of choice. The X11 list might help. I excel at > choosing PCs whose video card are not supported. However flickering > and worse in my experience has meant driver errors. Have you tried the > vesa driver? You will not get the full use of the card but if that > driver does not work it may mean hardware issues. If you have a > windows partition, it is good to test the hardware. > > I am afraid this one is above my pay grade :( > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > It's already on the vesa driver, & the 'gfx card' is on die w/ the CPU .... No sweat, I figured I might have a few glitches w/ such new hardware .... When you say X11 list, do you mean the FreeBSD/X11 list, or X.org ? Thanks :-) .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 21:41:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B0BD21D for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 21:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FEF52BA0 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 21:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (rbn1-216-180-76-131.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.131]) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id s79LfE57031026 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:41:14 -0500 Message-ID: <53E696F1.9050102@hiwaay.net> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:47:29 -0500 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: BIOS monitoring goodies .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 21:41:15 -0000 .... Linux has myriad tools, utilities, apps, etc. (hddtemp, lmsensors, jwclock, etc.) for monitoring info from the BIOS &/or OS hardware info .... Surely there must be some such for FreeBSD, could someone point me to them :-) ? TIA .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 22:13:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FC015FA for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 22:13:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E4312EC5 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 22:13:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id s79MDk3b095698 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:13:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.14.2/Submit) with UUCP id s79MDkYQ095697; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:13:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from fbsd81 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA07235; Sat, 9 Aug 14 14:37:49 PDT Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 14:38:11 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) To: odhiambo@gmail.com Subject: Re: TCP/IP on the way out? Message-Id: <53e694c3.Z9pgoYYlNshz0fcD%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 22:13:57 -0000 Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I have seen this article which sounds much like a dream, but seems true. > http://www.networkworld.com/article/2459286/why-tcp/why-tcp/ip-is-on-the-way-out.html > I'd love to hear the views of those who understand the network stack. I haven't read the article -- the page crashed Firefox -- but the idea of anything replacing TCP/IP reminds me of: They who do not understand TCP are doomed to reinvent it, poorly. I think that quote may have originated with Henry Spencer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 22:55:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA0103A9 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 22:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609942406 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 22:55:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4E0946B1A; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 18:55:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s79MtI4m059149; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 18:55:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s79MtIxq059146; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 18:55:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 18:55:18 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Subject: Re: X11 setup .... In-Reply-To: <53E6936A.900@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: References: <53E641C3.4040409@hiwaay.net> <53E666F0.809@hiwaay.net> <53E6936A.900@hiwaay.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:55:18 -0400 (EDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 22:55:19 -0000 On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > On 08/09/14 15:37, doug wrote: >> On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> >>> On 08/09/14 12:03, doug wrote: >>>> On Sat, 9 Aug 2014, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >>>> >>>>> .... I am following the instructions at >>>>> [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.h >>>>> tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through everything >>>>> up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail, bit >>>>> didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD Jaguar >>>>> Kabini based, quad core, 1.3 GHz, 25W, gfx on die: >>>>> Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with >>>>> Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU) >>>>> xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]" >>>>> The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the screen, >>>>> w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse, & it moves around, although >>>>> click-&-drag does nothing, & I might have the grid, although it is >>>>> pixel-by-pixel, not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting page >>>>> is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA .... >>>>> -- >>>> Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you know >>>> a lot about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe to the X11 >>>> mailing list or just search the archives of that list. >>>> >>>> You can see if you are good to go by trying startx. >>> >>> Thanks. My question was poorly articulated, should have been 'am I OK for >>> XFCE ?' .... I plunged on & started XFCE, & it works mostly pretty good, >>> but the gfx is definitely spotty, lotta flickering, background on desktop >>> looks a bit dicey, window frames are granular & flickery. I just looked >>> through /var/log/Xorg.0.log & there are *no* errors (no '(EE)'s) .... what >>> now :-/ .... >> Ah - my desktop of choice. The X11 list might help. I excel at choosing PCs >> whose video card are not supported. However flickering and worse in my >> experience has meant driver errors. Have you tried the vesa driver? You >> will not get the full use of the card but if that driver does not work it >> may mean hardware issues. If you have a windows partition, it is good to >> test the hardware. >> >> I am afraid this one is above my pay grade :( >> > > It's already on the vesa driver, & the 'gfx card' is on die w/ the CPU .... > No sweat, I figured I might have a few glitches w/ such new hardware .... > When you say X11 list, do you mean the FreeBSD/X11 list, or X.org ? Thanks > :-) .... > "FreeBSD X11 mailing list" is the one I follow. I am hoping for a solution to the console switching issue. Either list is probably okay for this issue. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 23:07:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93CB05C3; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 23:07:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-x22d.google.com (mail-ie0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5ABEB24DB; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 23:07:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id tr6so8110128ieb.32 for ; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:07:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ZiJcidcLew1UxHG5xTztzi+jmQzZUB+tVk5JDgziTpA=; b=bDCcACnLTYEFohztKBmesowbL0c+6h+P/49OwJjo7lYRu9smQNLuaDFPK25Cg+clk0 5Bf1WVkcGVjJlOMsUnJSXNDtP7TW6RQiKnnPDoecxwKiI0UuMf416o+kUmk2yJZ+7PA5 yZgnazIBth3V9EBiRCJMkV191h4B1hGg8E1jVuw92LKiLM+kYY+D+UeF8EHnmYnPPX+E Hji5aoZnG+6k1Fc+sMM50eG7mHQhZ817o/kEQCQzBjujaoRbQoKVwAky1e4A3pollteR v1kDmvonT2TWhnOuYxaf8QmYmBJFS7bzGF3TbHixQFBfFGvN2lvusP8bcbo8vhlP/4b5 pHyA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.80.116 with SMTP id q20mr17507867igx.22.1407625629784; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.28.211 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:07:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53E64F8E.7080401@FreeBSD.org> References: <53E64F8E.7080401@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:07:09 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkg schema upgrade? From: Patrick To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 23:07:10 -0000 On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 09/08/2014 17:21, Patrick wrote: > > I'm getting the following warning/error with pkg on FreeBSD 10 (since it > > self-updated to 1.3.5.1: > > > > > > pkg: Repo FreeBSD needs schema upgrade from 2006 to 2010 but it is opened > > readonly > > > > pkg: need to re-create repo FreeBSD to upgrade schema version > > > > > > It sure would be nice if in addition to saying what needs to happen, it > > said how to make it happen. I don't see anything in the man page that > talks > > about this, and my Google-fu is failing me. > > # pkg clean -a > # pkg update -f > > should restore sanity. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Thanks, that did the trick. Can I ask how you knew to do that? Should pkg have done this automatically after it upgraded itself, or is there some sort of maintenance I should be doing that's not part of normal periodic(8) operations? Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 9 23:20:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BCC07B6 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 23:20:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU004-OMC4S27.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s27.hotmail.com [65.55.111.166]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B42FD2630 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 23:20:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU181-W56 ([65.55.111.137]) by BLU004-OMC4S27.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:20:28 -0700 X-TMN: [gRAA2gHGKA+pEN91eVIhxIVSmhkypP0N] X-Originating-Email: [tracy_sw_au@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: Tracy Williams To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Help Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:20:27 +1000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2014 23:20:28.0263 (UTC) FILETIME=[81932770:01CFB428] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 23:20:36 -0000 Could you please unsubscribe me. I tried to do it online but I don't have a= clue what my password isThank you Kind reagrds Tracy=20 > From: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org > Subject: freebsd-questions Digest=2C Vol 531=2C Issue 10 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 22:55:24 +0000 >=20 > Send freebsd-questions mailing list submissions to > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >=20 > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web=2C visit > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > or=2C via email=2C send a message with subject or body 'help' to > freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org >=20 > You can reach the person managing the list at > freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org >=20 > When replying=2C please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of freebsd-questions digest..." >=20 >=20 > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. install xorg question .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 2. ipfw question .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 3. Re: ipfw question .... (Matthew Seaman) > 4. Re: ipfw question .... (Mike Tancsa) > 5. Re: install xorg question .... (Matthew Seaman) > 6. Re: ipfw question .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 7. Re: install xorg question .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 8. ps question .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 9. Re: ps question .... (Polytropon) > 10. Re: Freebsd-update to 9.3 from 9.2 (Victor Sudakov) > 11. Re: ps question .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 12. Re: ps question .... (Polytropon) > 13. X11 setup .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 14. Re: cpio and hard links (Victor Sudakov) > 15. pkg schema upgrade? (Patrick) > 16. Re: pkg schema upgrade? (Matthew Seaman) > 17. Re: X11 setup .... (doug) > 18. pkg-register question (doug@safeport.com) > 19. Re: X11 setup .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 20. tcsh login question .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 21. Re: ipfw question .... (Mike Tancsa) > 22. Re: pkg-register question (Matthew Seaman) > 23. Re: tcsh login question .... (kpneal@pobox.com) > 24. pkg upgrade failed again (Jamie Griffin) > 25. watchdog timeout msk0 (Martin Smith) > 26. Re: X11 setup .... (doug) > 27. Re: pkg-register question (doug) > 28. Re: Freebsd-update to 9.3 from 9.2 (Andrew Berg) > 29. seriously hacked off!! Re: pkg upgrade failed again > (Jamie Griffin) > 30. Re: X11 setup .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 31. BIOS monitoring goodies .... (William A. Mahaffey III) > 32. Re: TCP/IP on the way out? (Perry Hutchison) > 33. Re: X11 setup .... (doug) >=20 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Message: 1 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 09:02:19 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" > Subject: install xorg question .... > Message-ID: <53E629EB.7050604@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 >=20 >=20 > I am rying to install xorg-7.7 under FreeBSD 9.3 apparently needed by=20 > XFCE. I get the following: >=20 >=20 > [root@kabini1=2C /etc=2C 8:56:00am] 353 % pkg install xorg-7.7 > Updating repository catalogue > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date > All repositories are up-to-date > The following 131 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): >=20 > New packages to be INSTALLED: > xorg: 7.7 > xorg-libraries: 7.7_1 > . > . > . > xf86-input-keyboard: 1.8.0_2 >=20 > The process will require 98 MB more space > 37 MB to be downloaded >=20 > Proceed with this action [y/N]: y > Fetching xorg-apps-7.7.txz: 100% of 2 kB > pkg: xorg-apps-7.7 failed checksum from repository > [root@kabini1=2C /etc=2C 8:56:19am] 354 % >=20 >=20 > I had already fetched the 1st part of the list. How do I work around=20 > this :-/ ? >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 2 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 09:15:35 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" > Subject: ipfw question .... > Message-ID: <53E62D07.2030703@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 >=20 >=20 > Why is there a limit on the # of logged denials by ipfw ? >=20 >=20 > Aug 6 18:52:20 kabini1 kernel: ipfw: limit 500 reached on entry 65500 >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 3 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 15:14:56 +0100 > From: Matthew Seaman > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: ipfw question .... > Message-ID: <53E62CE0.6040807@FreeBSD.org> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >=20 > On 09/08/2014 15:15=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > Why is there a limit on the # of logged denials by ipfw ? > >=20 > >=20 > > Aug 6 18:52:20 kabini1 kernel: ipfw: limit 500 reached on entry 65500 >=20 > Because otherwise someone could DoS you by causing ipfw to fill up a > partition with log messages simply by sending a stream of packets at you > over the network. >=20 > Cheers=2C >=20 > Matthew >=20 > --=20 > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA=2C D.Phil. > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey >=20 >=20 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 1036 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > URL: >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 4 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 10:15:10 -0400 > From: Mike Tancsa > To: "William A. Mahaffey III" =2C "FreeBSD Questions > !!!!" > Subject: Re: ipfw question .... > Message-ID: <53E62CEE.7060202@sentex.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3Dwindows-1252=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On 8/9/2014 10:15 AM=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > > > > Why is there a limit on the # of logged denials by ipfw ? >=20 > The limit is there to prevent conditions where syslog would be=20 > overwhelmed with hits=2C as in the case for example of a DoS. You can=20 > change it as discussed in the man pages >=20 >=20 > If net.inet.ip.fw.verbose is set to 1=2C packets will be logged to=20 > syslogd(8) with a LOG_SECURITY facility up to a maximum of logamount=20 > packets. If no logamount is specified=2C the limit is taken from the=20 > sysctl variable net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit. In both cases=2C a value o= f=20 > 0 means unlimited logging. >=20 > Once the limit is reached=2C logging can be re-enabled by clearing the=20 > logging counter or the packet counter for that entry=2C see the resetlog= =20 > command. >=20 > ---Mike >=20 >=20 > --=20 > ------------------- > Mike Tancsa=2C tel +1 519 651 3400 > Sentex Communications=2C mike@sentex.net > Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net > Cambridge=2C Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 5 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 15:26:25 +0100 > From: Matthew Seaman > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: install xorg question .... > Message-ID: <53E62F91.8020100@infracaninophile.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >=20 > On 09/08/2014 15:02=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > I am rying to install xorg-7.7 under FreeBSD 9.3 apparently needed by > > XFCE. I get the following: >=20 > > [root@kabini1=2C /etc=2C 8:56:00am] 353 % pkg install xorg-7.7 > > Updating repository catalogue > > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date > > All repositories are up-to-date > > The following 131 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): > >=20 > > New packages to be INSTALLED: > > xorg: 7.7 > > xorg-libraries: 7.7_1 > > . > > . > > . > > xf86-input-keyboard: 1.8.0_2 > >=20 > > The process will require 98 MB more space > > 37 MB to be downloaded > >=20 > > Proceed with this action [y/N]: y > > Fetching xorg-apps-7.7.txz: 100% of 2 kB > > pkg: xorg-apps-7.7 failed checksum from repository > > [root@kabini1=2C /etc=2C 8:56:19am] 354 % > >=20 > >=20 > > I had already fetched the 1st part of the list. How do I work around > > this :-/ ? >=20 > This is quite possibly a bug that occurs when upgrading from pkg-1.2.7 > to pkg-1.3.5.1. The solution is to run: >=20 > # pkg clean -a > # pkg update -f >=20 > That will delete everything you've got in your package cache and force > pkg to refetch all the catalogues from the repositories you're using. >=20 > Oh -- depending on your hardware=2C you might want to use the new-xorg > repository. See >=20 > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics/WITH_NEW_XORG > http://daemon-notes.com/articles/desktop/kde >=20 > Cheers=2C >=20 > Matthew >=20 > --=20 > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA=2C D.Phil. >=20 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk >=20 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 1036 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > URL: >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 6 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 09:39:15 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" > Subject: Re: ipfw question .... > Message-ID: <53E63293.3090901@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On 08/09/14 09:15=2C Mike Tancsa wrote: > > On 8/9/2014 10:15 AM=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> > >> > >> Why is there a limit on the # of logged denials by ipfw ? > > > > The limit is there to prevent conditions where syslog would be=20 > > overwhelmed with hits=2C as in the case for example of a DoS. You can= =20 > > change it as discussed in the man pages > > > > > > If net.inet.ip.fw.verbose is set to 1=2C packets will be logged to=20 > > syslogd(8) with a LOG_SECURITY facility up to a maximum of logamount=20 > > packets. If no logamount is specified=2C the limit is taken from the=20 > > sysctl variable net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit. In both cases=2C a value= =20 > > of 0 means unlimited logging. > > > > Once the limit is reached=2C logging can be re-enabled by clearing the= =20 > > logging counter or the packet counter for that entry=2C see the resetlo= g=20 > > command. > > > > ---Mike > > > > >=20 >=20 > Hmmmm .... OK=2C sounds good. I would like a bit more granularity on=20 > deciding what to log & what to not log. For example=2C 99% of the time=2C= I=20 > would drop denials from my LAN=2C except when I am trying to figure out=20 > why I can't get NFS working=2C for example. I'd like to be able to choose= =20 > that when I (re)start ipfw. I am using the default rc.firewall located=20 > in /etc=2C BTW. I might like to specify denial-logging by protocol *and*= =20 > port #=2C rather than just por > t # .... Is there a way to implement any of=20 > this ? Thanks & TIA .... >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 7 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 09:47:55 -0500 > Fro > m: "William A. Mahaffey III" > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: install xorg question .... > Message-ID: <53E6349B.7070900@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On 08/09/14 09:26=2C Matthew Seaman wrote: > > On 09/08/2014 15:02=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> I am rying to install xorg-7.7 under FreeBSD 9.3 apparently needed by > >> XFCE. I get the following: > >> [root@kabini1=2C /etc=2C 8:56:00am] 353 % pkg install xorg-7.7 > >> Updating repository catalogue > >> FreeBSD repository is up-to-date > >> All repositories are up-to-date > >> The following 131 packages will be affected (of 0 checked): > >> > >> New packages to be INSTALLED: > >> xorg: 7.7 > >> xorg-libraries: 7.7_1 > >> . > >> . > >> . > >> xf86-input-keyboard: 1.8.0_2 > >> > >> The process will require 98 MB more space > >> 37 MB to be downloaded > >> > >> Proceed with this action [y/N]: y > >> Fetching xorg-apps-7.7.txz: 100% of 2 kB > >> pkg: xorg-apps-7.7 failed checksum from repository > >> [root@kabini1=2C /etc=2C 8:56:19am] 354 % > >> > >> > >> I had already fetched the 1st part of the list. How do I work around > >> this :-/ ? > > This is quite possibly a bug that occurs when upgrading from pkg-1.2.7 > > to pkg-1.3.5.1. The solution is to run: > > > > # pkg clean -a > > # pkg update -f > > > > That will delete everything you've got in your package cache and force > > pkg to refetch all the catalogues from the repositories you're using. > > > > Oh -- depending on your hardware=2C you might want to use the new-xorg > > repository. See > > > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics/WITH_NEW_XORG > > http://daemon-notes.com/articles/desktop/kde > > > > Cheers=2C > > > > Mat > thew > > >=20 >=20 > Thanks=2C worked like a champ !!!!! >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 8 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 10:01:00 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" > Subject: ps question .... > Message-ID: <53E637AC.3010008@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 >=20 >=20 > .... is there a way to get ps to show me *everything* running ? 'ps=20 > -elf' works nicely under Fedora 14 .... >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 9 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 17:01:50 +0200 > From: Polytropon > To: "William A. Mahaffey III" > Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! > Subject: Re: ps question .... > Message-ID: <20140809170150.0b1c9486.freebsd@edvax.de> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DUS-ASCII >=20 > On Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 10:01:00 -0500=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >=20 > >=20 > > .... is there a way to get ps to show me *everything* running ? 'ps=20 > > -elf' works nicely under Fedora 14 .... >=20 > What about "ps aux"? See "man ps" for details. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg=2C Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe=2C Mousa=2C ... >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 10 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 22:08:16 +0700 > From: Victor Sudakov > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Freebsd-update to 9.3 from 9.2 > Message-ID: <20140809150815.GA65785@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3Dus-ascii >=20 > Andrew Berg wrote: > > The best thing to do since you need to build world and kernel is to > > just use svn and do all updates via source. freebsd-update does > > nothing for you. Grab a completely new copy of the 9.3 source with > > svn and then build and install it. >=20 > Would it be safe to use freebsd-update to install binary security patches > after upgrading a system from source? >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Victor Sudakov=2C VAS4-RIPE=2C VAS47-RIPN > sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 11 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 10:18:08 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" > Subject: Re: ps question .... > Message-ID: <53E63BB0.2080700@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On 08/09/14 10:01=2C Polytropon wrote: > > On Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 10:01:00 -0500=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> > >> .... is there a way to get ps to show me *everything* running ? 'ps > >> -elf' works nicely under Fedora 14 .... > > What about "ps aux"? See "man ps" for details. > > > > > > >=20 >=20 > Thanks=2C I forgot about the different behavior w/ & w/o the minus sign=20 > :-/ .... >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 12 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 17:22:39 +0200 > From: Polytropon > To: "William A. Mahaffey III" > Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! > Subject: Re: ps question .... > Message-ID: <20140809172239.ae877c88.freebsd@edvax.de> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DUS-ASCII >=20 > On Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 10:18:08 -0500=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > On 08/09/14 10:01=2C Polytropon wrote: > > > On Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 10:01:00 -0500=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote= : > > >> > > >> .... is there a way to get ps to show me *everything* running ? 'ps > > >> -elf' works nicely under Fedora 14 .... > > > What about "ps aux"? See "man ps" for details. > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > >=20 > > Thanks=2C I forgot about the different behavior w/ & w/o the minus sign= =20 > > :-/ .... >=20 > As far as I can tell=2C there is no difference in behaviour. > The commands >=20 > % ps aux >=20 > and >=20 > % ps -aux >=20 > as well as >=20 > % ps -a -u -x >=20 > produce the same output. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg=2C Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe=2C Mousa=2C ... >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 13 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 10:44:03 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" > Subject: X11 setup .... > Message-ID: <53E641C3.4040409@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" >=20 > .... I am following the instructions at > [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.= h > tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through everything > up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail=2C bit > didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD Jaguar > Kabini based=2C quad core=2C 1.3 GHz=2C 25W=2C gfx on die: > Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with > Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU) > xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]" > The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the screen= =2C > w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse=2C & it moves around=2C although > click-&-drag does nothing=2C & I might have the grid=2C although it is > pixel-by-pixel=2C not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting pag= e > is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA .... > -- >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 > References >=20 > 1. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.= html >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 14 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 23:17:45 +0700 > From: Victor Sudakov > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: cpio and hard links > Message-ID: <20140809161745.GB65785@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3Dus-ascii >=20 > Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > >=20 > >=20 > > Given a directory "tmp" which contains two files=2C "foo" and "bar"=2C > > both of which are merely hard links to one another=2C the following > > command will=2C apparently=2C produce an archive of the directory in > > question which contains only a single instance of the actual file > > contents: > >=20 > > tar cvf tmp.tar tmp > >=20 > > The resulting tmp.tar file can later be unpacked=2C using tar=2C result= ing > > in a directory structure which exactly mirrors the original "tmp" > > directory=2C including preservation of the hard link(s). > >=20 > > I note however that=2C given the same original directory structure=2C t= he > > following command generates an archive file containing two complete > > instances of the file data: > >=20 > > find tmp -depth -print | cpio -ovm > tmp.cpio > >=20 > > For the the cpio program that is part of FreeBSD=2C is there any option > > which would have the effect of causing cpio to only archive a single > > instance of the data associated with each unique inode... as tar appare= ntly > > does=2C by default? >=20 > Try 'cpio -H ustar'. >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Victor Sudakov=2C VAS4-RIPE=2C VAS47-RIPN > sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 15 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 09:21:30 -0700 > From: Patrick > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: pkg schema upgrade? > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DUTF-8 >=20 > I'm getting the following warning/error with pkg on FreeBSD 10 (since it > self-updated to 1.3.5.1: >=20 >=20 > pkg: Repo FreeBSD needs schema upgrade from 2006 to 2010 but it is opened > readonly >=20 > pkg: need to re-create repo FreeBSD to upgrade schema version >=20 >=20 > It sure would be nice if in addition to saying what needs to happ > en=2C it > said how to make it happen. I don't see anything in the man page that tal= ks > about this=2C and my Google-fu is failing me. >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 16 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 17:42:54 +0100 > From: Matthew Seaman > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: pkg schema upgrade? > Message-ID: <53E64F8E.7080401@FreeBSD.org> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >=20 > On 09/08/2014 17:21=2C Patrick wrote: > > I'm getting the following warning/error with pkg on FreeBSD 10 (since i= t > > self-updated to 1.3.5.1: > >=20 > >=20 > > pkg: Repo FreeBSD needs schema upgrade from 2006 to 2010 but it is open= ed > > readonly > >=20 > > pkg: need to re-create repo FreeBSD to upgrade schema version > >=20 > >=20 > > It sure would be nice if in addition to saying what needs to happen=2C = it > > said how to make it happen. I don't see anything in the man page that t= alks > > about this=2C and my Google-fu is failing me. >=20 > # pkg clean -a > # pkg update -f >=20 > should restore sanity. >=20 > Cheers=2C >=20 > Matthew >=20 > --=20 > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA=2C D.Phil. > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey >=20 >=20 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 1036 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > URL: >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Messa > ge: 17 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 13:03:20 -0400 (EDT) > From: doug > To: "William A. Mahaffey III" > Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! > Subject: Re: X11 setup .... > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN=3B charset=3DUS-ASCII=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >=20 > > .... I am following the instructions at > > [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config= .h > > tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through everythin= g > > up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail=2C bi= t > > didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD Jagua= r > > Kabini based=2C quad core=2C 1.3 GHz=2C 25W=2C gfx on die: > > Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with > > Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU) > > xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]" > > The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the screen= =2C > > w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse=2C & it moves around=2C although > > click-&-drag does nothing=2C & I might have the grid=2C although it i= s > > pixel-by-pixel=2C not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting pa= ge > > is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA .... > > -- > Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you know= a lot=20 > about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe to the X11 maili= ng list=20 > or just search the archives of that list. >=20 > You can see if you are good to go by trying startx. >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 18 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 13:39:42 -0400 (EDT) > From: doug@safeport.com > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: pkg-register question > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN=3B format=3Dflowed=3B charset=3DUS-ASCII >=20 > I think this was a user error. I have been making & killing systems (vmwa= re is=20 > cool) to figure out pkg and how to use freebsd-update to update jails. So= I am=20 > fuzzy on things I did not actually document along the way. >=20 > Anyway I was checking a system that had pkg=2C subversion=2C and ezjail. = All were=20 > registered except ezjail. I could tell from /usr/ports that I had build i= t so I=20 > must have done so before adding 'WITH_PKGNG=3Dyes' to make.conf. >=20 > I assumed one would fix this with 'pkg register' but after man and google= I=20 > decided to use 'pkg check -r -v -a'. This [seemingly] worked. >=20 > The logical thing would seem to be 'pkg register -x ezjail'. Except no su= ch=20 > syntax exists. Does 'pkg register metadatafile' mean use the full name? >=20 > _____ > Douglas Denault > http://www.safeport.com > doug@safeport.com > Voice: 301-217-9220 > Fax: 301-217-9277 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 19 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 13:22:40 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" > Subject: Re: X11 setup .... > Message-ID: <53E666F0.809@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On 08/09/14 12:03=2C doug wrote: > > On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > >> .... I am following the instructions at > >> [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.= h > >> tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through everythi= ng > >> up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail=2C b= it > >> didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD Jagu= ar > >> Kabini based=2C quad core=2C 1.3 GHz=2C 25W=2C gfx on die: > >> Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with > >> Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU) > >> xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series]= " > >> The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the screen= =2C > >> w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse=2C & it moves around=2C although > >> click-&-drag does nothing=2C & I might have the grid=2C although it = is > >> pixel-by-pixel=2C not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting p= age > >> is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA .... > >> --=20 > > Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you=20 > > know a lot about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe to= =20 > > the X11 mailing list or just search the archives of that list. > > > > You can see if you are good to go by trying startx. > > >=20 >=20 > Thanks. My question was poorly articulated=2C should have been 'am I OK=20 > for XFCE ?' .... I plunged on & started XFCE=2C & it works mostly pretty= =20 > good=2C but the gfx is definitely spotty=2C lotta flickering=2C backgroun= d on=20 > desktop looks a bit dicey=2C window frames are granular & flickery. I jus= t=20 > looked through /var/log/Xorg.0.log & there are *no* errors (no '(EE)'s)=20 > .... what now :-/ .... >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 20 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 13:27:12 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" > Subject: tcsh login question .... > Message-ID: <53E66800.8000005@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 >=20 >=20 > .... when I shell into my newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 desktop=2C or login w/= =20 > a console login=2C everything under tcsh gets initialized AOK. I then=20 > activated xdm to manage logins (I like it that way)=2C the /ect/csh.login= =20 > file clearly does *not* get sourced. I have many aliases=2C prompt=20 > setting=2C & other goodies which are absent. The tcsh manpage clearly say= s=20 > it will be sourced at login=2C what gives ? >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 21 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 14:26:26 -0400 > From: Mike Tancsa > To: "William A. Mahaffey III" =2C "FreeBSD Questions > !!!!" > Subject: Re: ipfw question .... > Message-ID: <53E667D2.7070601@sentex.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3Dwindows-1252=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On 8/9/2014 10:39 AM=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> > >> > >> If net.inet.ip.fw.verbose is set to 1=2C p > ackets will be logged to > >> syslogd(8) with a LOG_SECURITY facility up to a maximum of logamount > >> packets. If no logamount is specified=2C the limit is taken from the > >> sysctl variable net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit. In both cases=2C a valu= e > >> of 0 means unlimited logging. > >> > >> Once the limit is reached=2C logging can be re-enabled by clearing the > >> logging counter or the packet counter for that entry=2C see the resetl= og > >> command. > >> > >> ---Mike > >> > >> > > > > > > port #=2C rather than just port # .... Is there a way to implement any = of > > this ? Thanks & TIA .... >=20 >=20 > It there in the man pages of ipfw how to do it on a per rule basis.=20 > logamount can be set on a per rule basis. >=20 > ---Mike >=20 >=20 > --=20 > ------------------- > Mike Tancsa=2C tel +1 519 651 3400 > Sentex Communications=2C mike@sentex.net > Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net > Cambridge=2C Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/ >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 22 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 19:39:32 +0100 > From: Matthew Seaman > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: pkg-register question > Message-ID: <53E66AE4.7040004@infracaninophile.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >=20 > On 09/08/2014 18:39=2C doug@safeport.com wrote: > > I think this was a user error. I have been making & killing systems > > (vmware is cool) to figure out pkg and how to use freebsd-update to > > update jails. So I am fuzzy on things I did not actually document along > > the way. > >=20 > > Anyway I was checking a system that had pkg=2C subversion=2C and ezjail= . All > > were registered except ezjail. I could tell from /usr/ports that I had > > build it so I must have done so before adding 'WITH_PKGNG=3Dyes' to > > make.conf. > >=20 > > I assumed one would fix this with 'pkg register' but after man and > > google I decided to use 'pkg check -r -v -a'. This [seemingly] worked. > > > > The logical thing would seem to be 'pkg register -x ezjail'. Except no > > such syntax exists. Does 'pkg register metadatafile' mean use the full > > name? >=20 > That's not really the intended use for pkg-register. It takes a > previously written +MANIFEST which describes some software that has > already been installed on a system and inserts the data from the > +MANIFEST plus checksums etc it calculates from the installed files into > the package database. The +MANIFEST is the 'metadatafile' the man page > is talking about. >=20 > Before staging=2C this was the way the ports operated. Now=2C with stagi= ng=2C > you use the very similar pkg-create to build a package from the staging > area=2C and then simply install that package. Not sure what the long ter= m > plans are for 'pkg register' but making it obsolete in the future > probably should not be discounted. >=20 > What you probably wanted was 'pkg convert' -- or in fact=2C the pkg2ng > script which is basically a wrapper around pkg convert. >=20 > Cheers=2C >=20 > Matthew >=20 > --=20 > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA=2C D.Phil. >=20 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk >=20 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 1036 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > URL: >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 23 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 15:43:02 -0400 > From: kpneal@pobox.com > To: "William A. Mahaffey III" > Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! > Subject: Re: tcsh login question .... > Message-ID: <20140809194302.GA62677@neutralgood.org> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3Dus-ascii >=20 > On Sat=2C Aug 09=2C 2014 at 01:27:12PM -0500=2C William A. Mahaffey III w= rote: > >=20 > >=20 > > .... when I shell into my newly minted FreeBSD 9.3 desktop=2C or login = w/=20 > > a console login=2C everything under tcsh gets initialized AOK. I then=20 > > activated xdm to manage logins (I like it that way)=2C the /ect/csh.log= in=20 > > file clearly does *not* get sourced. I have many aliases=2C prompt=20 > > setting=2C & other goodies which are absent. The tcsh manpage clearly s= ays=20 > > it will be sourced at login=2C what gives ? >=20 > That file doesn't get sourced because tcsh is not run as a "login shell" > when run from whatever that gets run by xdm. This is correct since loggin= g > into an X11 session is not the same as logging into a shell session. >=20 > It sounds like you need to move a good chunk of your /etc/csh.login file > into the /etc/csh.cshrc file instead. > --=20 > Kevin P. Neal http://www.pobox.com/~kpn/ >=20 > "Nonbelievers found it difficult to defend their position in \=20 > the presense of a working computer." -- a DEC Jensen paper >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 24 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 20:48:31 +0100 > From: Jamie Griffin > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: pkg upgrade failed again > Message-ID: <53E67B0F.2010500@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > Just waited 9 hours for all the new packages to download to find this=20 > happens: >=20 > Checking for upgrades: 100% > Assertion failed: (var =3D=3D elt->var)=2C function pkg_solve_sat_problem= =2C=20 > file pkg_solve.c=2C line 508. > Child process pid=3D5148 terminated abnormally: Abort trap >=20 > When with a problematic package qt4-qtestlib conflicting with=20 > qt4-testlib=2C pkg upgraded itself to 1.3.3 first=2C I thought the solver= =20 > was supposed to sort things like this? >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 25 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 20:55:36 +0100 > From: Martin Smith > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: watchdog timeout msk0 > Message-ID: <53E67CB8.5050000@rakupottery.org.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > I am just installing 10.0 onto a Vaio VGN-SR41N and am getting watchdog=20 > timeout on the built in msk0=2C the system does not seem to recognise an= =20 > expresscard startech EC1000S which has a realtek chip. > I remember the watchdog timeout from years ago on > older systems=2C though=20 > not on this machine=2C can someone remind me and point me in the right=20 > direction=2C cheers >=20 > --=20 > Martin >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 26 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 16:37:55 -0400 (EDT) > From: doug > To: "William A. Mahaffey III" > Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! > Subject: Re: X11 setup .... > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN=3B charset=3DUS-ASCII=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >=20 > > On 08/09/14 12:03=2C doug wrote: > >> On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >> > >>> .... I am following the instructions at > >>> [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config= .h > >>> tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through everyth= ing > >>> up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail=2C = bit > >>> didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD Jag= uar > >>> Kabini based=2C quad core=2C 1.3 GHz=2C 25W=2C gfx on die: > >>> Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with > >>> Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU) > >>> xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Series= ]" > >>> The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the scree= n=2C > >>> w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse=2C & it moves around=2C although > >>> click-&-drag does nothing=2C & I might have the grid=2C although it= is > >>> pixel-by-pixel=2C not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting = page > >>> is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA .... > >>> --=20 > >> Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you k= now a=20 > >> lot about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe to the X1= 1=20 > >> mailing list or just search the archives of that list. > >>=20 > >> You can see if you are good to go by trying startx. > > > > Thanks. My question was poorly articulated=2C should have been 'am I OK= for=20 > > XFCE ?' .... I plunged on & started XFCE=2C & it works mostly pretty go= od=2C but=20 > > the gfx is definitely spotty=2C lotta flickering=2C background on deskt= op looks a=20 > > bit dicey=2C window frames are granular & flickery. I just looked throu= gh=20 > > /var/log/Xorg.0.log & there are *no* errors (no '(EE)'s) .... what now = :-/=20 > > .... > Ah - my desktop of choice. The X11 list might help. I excel at choosing P= Cs=20 > whose video card are not supported. However flickering and worse in my=20 > experience has meant driver errors. Have you tried the vesa driver? You w= ill not=20 > get the full use of the card but if that driver does not work it may mean= =20 > hardware issues. If you have a windows partition=2C it is good to test th= e=20 > hardware. >=20 > I am afraid this one is above my pay grade :( >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 27 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 16:46:57 -0400 (EDT) > From: doug > To: Matthew Seaman > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: pkg-register question > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN=3B charset=3DUS-ASCII=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C Matthew Seaman wrote: > [cut] > > That's not really the intended use for pkg-register. It takes a > > previously written +MANIFEST which describes some software that has > > already been installed on a system and inserts the data from the > > +MANIFEST plus checksums etc it calculates from the installed files int= o > > the package database. The +MANIFEST is the 'metadatafile' the man page > > is talking about. > > > > Before staging=2C this was the way the ports operated. Now=2C with sta= ging=2C > > you use the very similar pkg-create to build a package from the staging > > area=2C and then simply install that package. Not sure what the long t= erm > > plans are for 'pkg register' but making it obsolete in the future > > probably should not be discounted. >=20 > Thank you that was exactly the information I was seeking >=20 > > What you probably wanted was 'pkg convert' -- or in fact=2C the pkg2ng > > script which is basically a wrapper around pkg convert. >=20 > Excellent - thanks again >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 28 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 16:00:00 -0500 > From: Andrew Berg > To: > Subject: Re: Freebsd-update to 9.3 from 9.2 > Message-ID: <53E68BD0.5090209@my.hennepintech.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3D"UTF-8" >=20 > On 2014.08.09 10:08=2C Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Andrew Berg wrote: > >> The best thing to do since you need to build world and kernel is to > >> just use svn and do all updates via source. freebsd-update does > >> nothing for you. Grab a completely new copy of the 9.3 source with > >> svn and then build and install it. > >=20 > > Would it be safe to use freebsd-update to install binary security patch= es > > after upgrading a system from source? > Since you have your own changes=2C no. IIRC=2C there are instructions in = the > announcements for building only what has changed so that you do not need = to > rebuild the entire world and kernel. >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 29 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 22:12:47 +0100 > From: Jamie Griffin > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: seriously hacked off!! Re: pkg upgrade failed again > Message-ID: <53E68ECF.3070006@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3Dwindows-1252=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 >=20 > On 09/08/2014 20:48=2C Jamie Griffin wrote: > > Just waited 9 hours for all the new packages to download to find this=20 > > happens: > > > > Checking for upgrades: 100% > > Assertion failed: (var =3D=3D elt->var)=2C function pkg_solve_sat_probl= em=2C=20 > > file pkg_solve.c=2C line 508. > > Child process pid=3D5148 terminated abnormally: Abort trap > > > > When with a problematic package qt4-q > testlib conflicting with=20 > > qt4-testlib=2C pkg upgraded itself to 1.3.3 first=2C I thought the solv= er=20 > > was supposed to sort things like this? > Once again pkg has completely f**ked up my packages and i'll have to=20 > remove everything and start over. That's the second time in as many=20 > months. Why are these things released when they cause so many problems=20 > for people. I actually dread upgrading FreeBSD now because I know it's=20 > going to involve stress. >=20 > Thanks. >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 30 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 16:32:26 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" > Subject: Re: X11 setup .... > Message-ID: <53E6936A.900@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On 08/09/14 15:37=2C doug wrote: > > On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > > >> On 08/09/14 12:03=2C doug wrote: > >>> On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >>> > >>>> .... I am following the instructions at > >>>> [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-confi= g.h=20 > >>>> > >>>> tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through=20 > >>>> everything > >>>> up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail=2C= bit > >>>> didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD=20 > >>>> Jaguar > >>>> Kabini based=2C quad core=2C 1.3 GHz=2C 25W=2C gfx on die: > >>>> Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU with > >>>> Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU) > >>>> xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3=20 > >>>> Series]" > >>>> The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the=20 > >>>> screen=2C > >>>> w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse=2C & it moves around=2C although > >>>> click-&-drag does nothing=2C & I might have the grid=2C although i= t is > >>>> pixel-by-pixel=2C not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshooting= =20 > >>>> page > >>>> is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA .... > >>>> --=20 > >>> Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you= =20 > >>> know a lot about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe=20 > >>> to the X11 mailing list or just search the archives of that list. > >>> > >>> You can see if you are good to go by trying startx. > >> > >> Thanks. My question was poorly articulated=2C should have been 'am I O= K=20 > >> for XFCE ?' .... I plunged on & started XFCE=2C & it works mostly=20 > >> pretty good=2C but the gfx is definitely spotty=2C lotta flickering=2C= =20 > >> background on desktop looks a bit dicey=2C window frames are granular = &=20 > >> flickery. I just looked through /var/log/Xorg.0.log & there are *no*=20 > >> errors (no '(EE)'s) .... what now :-/ .... > > Ah - my desktop of choice. The X11 list might help. I excel at=20 > > choosing PCs whose video card are not supported. However flickering=20 > > and worse in my experience has meant driver errors. Have you tried the= =20 > > vesa driver? You will not get the full use of the card but if that=20 > > driver does not work it may mean hardware issues. If you have a=20 > > windows partition=2C it is good to test the hardware. > > > > I am afraid this one is above my pay grade :( > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to=20 > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >=20 >=20 > It's already on the vesa driver=2C & the 'gfx card' is on die w/ the CPU= =20 > .... No sweat=2C I figured I might have a few glitches w/ such new=20 > hardware .... When you say X11 list=2C do you mean the FreeBSD/X11 list= =2C=20 > or X.org ? Thanks :-) .... >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 31 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 16:47:29 -0500 > From: "William A. Mahaffey III" > To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" > Subject: BIOS monitoring goodies .... > Message-ID: <53E696F1.9050102@hiwaay.net> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3DISO-8859-1=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 >=20 >=20 > .... Linux has myriad tools=2C utilities=2C apps=2C etc. (hddtemp=2C lmse= nsors=2C=20 > jwclock=2C etc.) for monitoring info from the BIOS &/or OS hardware info= =20 > .... Surely there must be some such for FreeBSD=2C could someone point me= =20 > to them :-) ? TIA .... >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 32 > Date: Sat=2C 09 Aug 2014 14:38:11 -0700 > From: perryh@pluto.rain.com (Perry Hutchison) > To: odhiambo@gmail.com > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: TCP/IP on the way out? > Message-ID: <53e694c3.Z9pgoYYlNshz0fcD%perryh@pluto.rain.com> > Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3Dus-ascii >=20 > Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > I have seen this article which sounds much like a dream=2C but seems tr= ue. > > http://www.networkworld.com/article/2459286/why-tcp/why-tcp/ip-is-on-th= e-way-out.html > > I'd love to hear the views of those who understand the network stack. >=20 > I haven't read the article -- the page crashed Firefox -- but the > idea of anything replacing TCP/IP reminds me of: >=20 > They who do not understand TCP are doomed to reinvent it=2C poorly. >=20 > I think that quote may have originated with Henry Spencer. >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Message: 33 > Date: Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014 18:55:18 -0400 (EDT) > From: doug > To: "William A. Mahaffey III" > Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! > Subject: Re: X11 setup .... > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN=3B charset=3DUS-ASCII=3B format=3Dflowed >=20 > On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >=20 > > On 08/09/14 15:37=2C doug wrote: > >> On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >>=20 > >>> On 08/09/14 12:03=2C doug wrote: > >>>> On Sat=2C 9 Aug 2014=2C William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> .... I am following the instructions at > >>>>> [1]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-conf= ig.h > >>>>> tml to get my newly installed xorg setup. I stepped through every= thing > >>>>> up to the 'Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro' which didn't fail= =2C bit > >>>>> didn't behave quite like it was supposed to .... Machine is AMD J= aguar > >>>>> Kabini based=2C quad core=2C 1.3 GHz=2C 25W=2C gfx on die: > >>>>> Aug 9 10:23:34 kabini1 kernel: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) 3850 APU wit= h > >>>>> Radeon(tm) R3 (1297.59-MHz K8-class CPU) > >>>>> xorg detects it as: BoardName "Kabini [Radeon HD 8280 / R3 Seri= es]" > >>>>> The above test is supposed to give a black & grey grid on the scr= een=2C > >>>>> w/ an X-mouse. I have the mouse=2C & it moves around=2C although > >>>>> click-&-drag does nothing=2C & I might have the grid=2C although = it is > >>>>> pixel-by-pixel=2C not finitely sized grid .... The troubleshootin= g page > >>>>> is little help .... Am I good to go or not :-/ ? TIA .... > >>>>> --=20 > >>>> Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Errors are somewhat esoteric unless you= know=20 > >>>> a lot about X11 but they are clearly marked. You can subscribe to th= e X11=20 > >>>> mailing list or just search the archives of that list. > >>>>=20 > >>>> You can see if you are good to go by trying startx. > >>>=20 > >>> Thanks. My question was poorly articulated=2C should have been 'am I = OK for=20 > >>> XFCE ?' .... I plunged on & started XFCE=2C & it works mostly pretty = good=2C=20 > >>> but the gfx is definitely spotty=2C lotta flickering=2C background on= desktop=20 > >>> looks a bit dicey=2C window frames are granular & flickery. I just lo= oked=20 > >>> through /var/log/Xorg.0.log & there are *no* errors (no '(EE)'s) ....= what=20 > >>> now :-/ .... > >> Ah - my desktop of choice. The X11 list might help. I excel at choosin= g PCs=20 > >> whose video card are not supported. However flickering and w > orse in my=20 > >> experience has meant driver errors. Have you tried the vesa driver? Yo= u=20 > >> will not get the full use of the card but if that driver does not work= it=20 > >> may mean hardware issues. If you have a windows partition=2C it is goo= d to=20 > >> test the hardware. > >>=20 > >> I am afraid this one is above my pay grade :( > >>=20 > > > > It's already on the vesa driver=2C & the 'gfx card' is on die w/ the CP= U ....=20 > > No sweat=2C I figured I might have a few glitches w/ such new hardware = ....=20 > > When you say X11 list=2C do you mean the FreeBSD/X11 list=2C or X.org ?= Thanks=20 > > :-) .... > > > "FreeBSD X11 mailing list" is the one I follow.= I am=20 > hoping for a solution to the console switching issue. Either list is prob= ably=20 > okay for this issue. >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > Subject: Digest Footer >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" >=20 > ------------------------------ >=20 > End of freebsd-questions Digest=2C Vol 531=2C Issue 10 > ************************************************** =