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[59.101.231.83]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y80sm7303989pfc.30.2019.09.21.17.53.38 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 21 Sep 2019 17:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: multi-volume archives To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190921063003.GA81956@admin.sibptus.ru> <05ca327a-2b01-54fd-016a-ba84584095a7@gmail.com> <20190921182250.GA15412@admin.sibptus.ru> From: MJ Message-ID: <63d66ddf-a3c6-77bc-bfce-befdd2e472a7@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 10:53:18 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190921182250.GA15412@admin.sibptus.ru> Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46bTTy3BHFz48R4 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=GbU4LY5J; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mafsys1234@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::632 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mafsys1234@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[83.231.101.59.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.6.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.57), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.64), asn: 15169(-2.20), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 00:53:43 -0000 On 22/09/2019 4:22 am, Victor Sudakov wrote: > MJ wrote: >>> Which is now the most convenient way to create multi-volume archives? To >>> fit an archive on a FAT32 flash drive, a volume size should not exceed 4g. >>> >>> I have traditionally used "tar | split" to pack, then "cat | tar" to >>> unpack. But split is very slow, and generally this way is clumsy. >>> >>> I don't want to use "zip -s" either, because I think zip does not >>> preserve symlinks, hardlinks, permissions... to cut a long story short, >>> I don't believe in zip as a Unix archiver. >>> >>> Any more ideas? >> >> Hi Victor, >> >> If you don't like zip, what about 7zip? It has volumes which allow you to break it up on the fly into parts > Hmm, maybe 7z in tar mode. It does not preserve permissions in 7-zip mode. Yes, I just looked at the less-than-useless manual page on it. It does state that. (The manual page comes from linux and should probably be replaced with "This page is intentionally blank", given such inanities as: "Do not use "-r" because this flag does not do what you think." but then proceeds to not disclose why! LOL). So, it seems you're trapped with using tar|split. Cheers, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 22 04:20:18 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1711FF382C for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 04:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46bZ4K1XMtz4KFl for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 04:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=gCosSistvyOBbGk9qkLANhu2UDPmPWV6nlZwQ1JM4aw=; b=mrYxtRSLfHD/mVzY/9sJcpUEHl FYoHftqYVp4D9JwJUPMsqloDdFFVQxIigKzawp8eeeW937R4jOekZb90JYqPDiXRTAd5wTaQqL+Eu jsD7C9QRSf6A01ltvpzP9cuokjmhnb9iqDklinp8PYBV0Hl0yWys95kI5ehX23ZWipSg=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.92.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1iBtM6-000Au2-KG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 11:20:14 +0700 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 11:20:14 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multi-volume archives Message-ID: <20190922042014.GA38319@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20190921063003.GA81956@admin.sibptus.ru> <05ca327a-2b01-54fd-016a-ba84584095a7@gmail.com> <20190921182250.GA15412@admin.sibptus.ru> <63d66ddf-a3c6-77bc-bfce-befdd2e472a7@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <63d66ddf-a3c6-77bc-bfce-befdd2e472a7@gmail.com> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) Sender: Victor Sudakov X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46bZ4K1XMtz4KFl X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=mrYxtRSL; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@mpeks.tomsk.su designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@mpeks.tomsk.su X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.75 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tomsk.su]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-3.15)[ip: (-9.76), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.88), asn: 20473(-1.08), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 04:20:18 -0000 --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MJ wrote: > >> If you don't like zip, what about 7zip? It has volumes which allow you= to break it up on the fly into parts > > Hmm, maybe 7z in tar mode. It does not preserve permissions in 7-zip mo= de. >=20 >=20 > Yes, I just looked at the less-than-useless manual page on it. It does st= ate that. >=20 > (The manual page comes from linux and should probably be replaced with "T= his page is intentionally blank", given such inanities as: >=20 > "Do not use "-r" because this flag does not do what you think." I've just checked and found out that 7z does store symlinks as symlinks (unless -l is given) but it does not store inode numbers, so all hardlinks become separate files after extraction. >=20 > So, it seems you're trapped with using tar|split. Looks like it.=20 --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJdhvZ+AAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0SrkH/2SB0M+Pys+sTWIoREBETLpO xWciCaxXeXRxy8r9OJCP5ddrK3avNchdBKjW/511KRuzqiWg/JggbP0EvQA6sklS z1bsdRSLStm4NxawExoMo22CiBMVifGBDGifjBN+oaJbWEv8VyIa/lVGt8574CVt LtKKD2BZjyvHQ8QQSOcH64OXlf7Le1wha295DixCn+2Yb3gCavL8cUsCu4oBd6IG ppMxuBrIPRSL4rJeMXitEQyrk+Ya6M5P1KVjy47gzbHX2fL73n9XgGg1IhPxKsoc R7p13nNrT7cByx7nE6B7wR0GXXAsshygVQqflhgtspd35cp5XAkCh42jlX3EkdY= =fnKH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 22 04:26:55 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A57F3C29 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 04:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46bZCz1dSfz4Kmb for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 04:26:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=unvO96RoIcRiJLLYxvI3i4Ff+7ordyGBHHg9cTtPZF8=; b=mF8kLE5G9rD470vZmdqExy/zCY +6Nxckkq4sF0F7xNjRAFPC5Fl9yBki5AUvelxttxlpvroQfrjmkJWGTX4GmZW0SBjGH9hO3BwD8q8 pL01MXMGXJQynz4wij9tKSV7B90y1KXStclhFnIShYZ28gSCUFu2VzTC9BJDlS91EhwI=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.92.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1iBtSX-000AyL-Ak for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 11:26:53 +0700 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 11:26:53 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multi-volume archives Message-ID: <20190922042653.GB38319@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20190921063003.GA81956@admin.sibptus.ru> <20190921093801.4638945715fe79eb6a99b36f@sohara.org> <20190921182558.GB15412@admin.sibptus.ru> <20190921195407.256410cee20741ef86f2c1e0@sohara.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dTy3Mrz/UPE2dbVg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190921195407.256410cee20741ef86f2c1e0@sohara.org> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) Sender: Victor Sudakov X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46bZCz1dSfz4Kmb X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=mF8kLE5G; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@mpeks.tomsk.su designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@mpeks.tomsk.su X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.76 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tomsk.su]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-3.16)[ip: (-9.76), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.88), asn: 20473(-1.09), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 04:26:55 -0000 --dTy3Mrz/UPE2dbVg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: [dd] > > However, this understanding of multiple volumes is not convenient for > > writing to a formatted flash drive. >=20 > You can use -L and perhaps the --new-volume-script option=20 Only if the --new-volume-script can change the archive name. > and a script to make it convenient for most purposes, but the default > prompt for a new volume approach should work fine - when you get the > prompt unmount the drive and mount another one in the same place hit > return and away you go. No, the drive should remain the same, no need for another :-) It just does not handle files over 4G, but it can accommodate lots of such files. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --dTy3Mrz/UPE2dbVg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJdhvgNAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0k2EH/iR28DirUkNKN8xe9u5wB/U7 htWrithbRu9weJ2+osaEPMIISUnM8os6r6oR2bAg3osSwIGV/Kc4OD+pQjy8/sWu eSKnyQIMN6C01A1zbgSYVqFWEEduNSSwvFNv6yexoudQJT9WghWoLfjnNz3aTjuS qtv4emRh+qjiNR007v/r4pCrILJqduNa3MQPlueT5g/tJSNBPgnqoFtzNVr4JTYM RUxFRoNg5t0gwjLVUzMclek3WWBV5wxBslrwyXBU7KgvwZEmFLyPywL96kv6f3AZ ssKH/E6ACwWiF3RTNn/jDeHKiFFHzUnso3qjZRKY82YL7Jl7sVPFprQfNkSeHCo= =hL4q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dTy3Mrz/UPE2dbVg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 22 06:50:32 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F032F6C54 for ; 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FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 06:50:32 -0000 On Sun, 22 Sep 2019 11:26:53 +0700 Victor Sudakov wrote: > Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > [dd] > > > > However, this understanding of multiple volumes is not convenient for > > > writing to a formatted flash drive. > > > > You can use -L and perhaps the --new-volume-script > > option > > Only if the --new-volume-script can change the archive name. 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X-Mailer: VM undefined under 26.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin14.5.0) Reply-To: hartzell@alerce.com X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46bvv13Kjsz42QW X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=alerce.com header.s=dkim header.b=neQv/YXZ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=alerce.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of hartzell@alerce.com designates 206.125.171.163 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=hartzell@alerce.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.53 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[alerce.com:s=dkim]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[hartzell@alerce.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[alerce.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[alerce.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.53)[ip: (-7.87), ipnet: 206.125.168.0/21(-4.46), asn: 25795(-0.30), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:206.125.168.0/21, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 17:43:26 -0000 I've been happily using portshaker to merge my "personal" ports tree [1] with the standard tree, then building things with poudriere. Up until today the things in my tree were additions. Today I tried replacing the standard copy of audio/logitechmusicserver with a customized version that includes my SSL patch [2] and I suspect I'll also need something like the Perl 5.30 patch [3]. I'm getting a confusing error when I try to merge the trees: ``` hartzell@corvid:/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio % sudo portshaker -M make: "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk" line 32: Cannot open /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk make: "/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver/Makefile" line 87: Malformed conditional (${ARCH} == "i386") make: "/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver/Makefile" line 94: Malformed conditional (${ARCH} == "amd64") make: "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk" line 32: Cannot open /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk make: Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue[: make: stopped in /usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver: bad number make: "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk" line 32: Cannot open /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk make: "/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver/Makefile" line 87: Malformed conditional (${ARCH} == "i386") make: "/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver/Makefile" line 94: Malformed conditional (${ARCH} == "amd64") make: "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk" line 32: Cannot open /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk make: Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue[: make: stopped in /usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver: bad number [: make: stopped in /usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver: bad number hartzell@corvid:/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio % ``` Interestingly, adding `PORTREVISION= 1` to my copy of the port gives a shorter version of the same error message: ``` hartzell@corvid:/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio % sudo portshaker -M make: "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk" line 32: Cannot open /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk make: "/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver/Makefile" line 88: Malformed conditional (${ARCH} == "i386") make: "/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver/Makefile" line 95: Malformed conditional (${ARCH} == "amd64") make: "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk" line 32: Cannot open /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk make: Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue[: make: stopped in /usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver: bad number hartzell@corvid:/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio % ``` Everything works fine if I rename my customized port to e.g. `gh-logitechmusicserver`, but I thought that one of the goals of portshaker was to override local ports. I can live with just giving my port a custom name, but I'd like to understand where my disconnect is (am I doing it wrong, or misunderstanding something, or ...). Thanks for any insights, g. [1]: https://github.com/hartzell/freebsd-ports [2]: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=235468 [3]: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2403971 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 22 18:53:58 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9552412968A for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 18:53:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from pyroxene.sentex.ca (pyroxene.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:3::18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "pyroxene.sentex.ca", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46bxSP49QSz45ll for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 18:53:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from [192.168.43.26] (saphire3.sentex.ca [192.168.43.26]) by pyroxene.sentex.ca (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x8MIrtZ2012100; Sun, 22 Sep 2019 14:53:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Subject: Re: multi-volume archives To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190921063003.GA81956@admin.sibptus.ru> <20190921093801.4638945715fe79eb6a99b36f@sohara.org> <20190921182558.GB15412@admin.sibptus.ru> <20190921195407.256410cee20741ef86f2c1e0@sohara.org> <20190922042653.GB38319@admin.sibptus.ru> From: Mike Tancsa Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=mike@sentex.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQENBEzcA24BCACpwI/iqOrs0GfQSfhA1v6Z8AcXVeGsRyKEKUpxoOYxXWc2z3vndbYlIP6E YJeifzKhS/9E+VjhhICaepLHfw865TDTUPr5D0Ed+edSsKjlnDtb6hfNJC00P7eoiuvi85TW F/gAxRY269A5d856bYrzLbkWp2lKUR3Bg6NnORtflGzx9ZWAltZbjYjjRqegPv0EQNYcHqWo eRpXilEo1ahT6nmOU8V7yEvT2j4wlLcQ6qg7w+N/vcBvyd/weiwHU+vTQ9mT61x5/wUrQhdw 2gJHeQXeDGMJV49RT2EEz+QVxaf477eyWsdQzPVjAKRMT3BVdK8WvpYAEfBAbXmkboOxABEB AAG0HG1pa2UgdGFuY3NhIDxtaWtlQHNlbnRleC5jYT6JATgEEwECACIFAkzcA24CGwMGCwkI BwMCBhUIAgkKCwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEJXHwM2kc8rX+sMH/2V6pTBKsQ5mpWWLgs6wVP2k BC+6r/YKNXv9Rw/PrC6+9hTbgA+sSjJ+8gxsCbJsOQXZrxF0x3l9oYdYfuKcwdwXFX1/FS8p HfBeDkmlH+dI709xT9wgrR4dS5aMmKp0scPrXPIAKiYVOHjOlNItcLYTEEWEFBepheEVsgmk GrNbcrHwOx/u4igUQ8vcpyXPyUki+BsftPw8ZQvBU887igh0OxaCR8AurJppQ5UQd63r81cX E1ZjoFoWCaGK/SjPb/OhpYpu5swoZIhOxQbn7OtakYPsDd5t2A5KhvjI8BMTnd5Go+2xsCmr jlIEq8Bi29gCcfQUvNiClevi13ifmnm5AQ0ETNwDbgEIALWGNJHRAhpd0A4vtd3G0oRqMBcM FGThQr3qORmEBTPPEomTdBaHcn+Xl+3YUvTBD/67/mutWBwgp2R5gQOSqcM7axvgMSHbKqBL 9sd1LsLw0UT2O5AYxv3EwzhG84pwRg3XcUqvWA4lA8tIj/1q4Jzi5qOkg1zxq4W9qr9oiYK5 bBR638JUvr3eHMaz/Nz+sDVFgwHmXZj3M6aE5Ce9reCGbvrae7H5D5PPvtT3r22X8SqfVAiO TFKedCf/6jbSOedPN931FJQYopj9P6b3m0nI3ZiCDVSqeyOAIBLzm+RBUIU3brzoxDhYR8pz CJc2sK8l6YjqivPakrD86bFDff8AEQEAAYkBHwQYAQIACQUCTNwDbgIbDAAKCRCVx8DNpHPK 1+iQB/99aqNtez9ZTBWELj269La8ntuRx6gCpzfPXfn6SDIfTItDxTh1hrdRVP5QNGGF5wus N4EMwXouskva1hbFX3Pv72csYSxxEJXjW16oV8WK4KjKXoskLg2RyRP4uXqL7Mp2ezNtVY5F 9nu3fj4ydpHCSaqKy5xd70A8D50PfZsFgkrsa5gdQhPiGGEdxhq/XSeAAnZ4uVLJKarH+mj5 MEhgZPEBWkGrbDZpezl9qbFcUem/uT9x8FYT/JIztMVh9qDcdP5tzANW5J7nvgXjska+VFGY ryZK4SPDczh74mn6GI/+RBi7OUzXXPgpPBrhS5FByjwCqjjsSpTjTds+NGIY Organization: Sentex Communications Message-ID: Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 14:53:53 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; 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My question is what is the need of dot after inverted commas (i.e. ". /usr )? What will happen if it is done this way? % echo ". /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc" > ~/.xinitrc % echo ". /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc" > ~/.xsession From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 23 13:36:43 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A02F51E7 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 13:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46cQMt4V3rz42Dg for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 13:36:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 864DE33C2F; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 09:36:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Mrityunjoy Ghosh Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clarification about creating .xinitrc file for xfce References: Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 09:36:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Mrityunjoy Ghosh's message of "Mon, 23 Sep 2019 18:19:48 +0530") Message-ID: <44a7avqgm5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46cQMt4V3rz42Dg X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org has no SPF policy when checking 23.30.133.173) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.09 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.92)[-0.917,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.94)[-0.943,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ilk.org]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:23.30.0.0/15, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.13)[ip: (0.15), ipnet: 23.30.0.0/15(0.58), asn: 7922(-1.35), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 13:36:43 -0000 Mrityunjoy Ghosh writes: > Section 5.7.3 for creating .initrc and .xsession file for xfce written as > given below. My question is what is the need of dot after inverted commas > (i.e. ". /usr )? What will happen if it is done this way? > > % echo ". /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc" > ~/.xinitrc > > % echo ". /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc" > ~/.xsession The dot is equivalent to the keyword "source". 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GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 15:19:41 -0000 On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 21:50:55 +0200, Michael Schuster wrote: >> Perhaps this is outdated: I seem to remember having to enable something in >> /etc/ttys... Maybe that's still the case? > > No, this isn't needed for desktop environments that have their > own _enable flag for /etc/rc.conf (same for display managers). > In ye olden days, /etc/ttys contained a line like > > ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure > > to start xdm. Things like gdm or slim do not require this anymore. > And probably nobody (except maybe me) uses xdm nowadays... ;-) And me, so there are at least two of us. :) No extra dependencies Slim should be named [noso]slim IMO. A few xorg's ago I had some rebooting issues with xdm and tried both. Neither helped with whatever was my issue. 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It doesn't happen on the same server every time. I run FreeBSD stable compiled on 2 September 2019 but it did happen with = previous versions too and if I remember correctly it did happen with = FreeBSD 11 too. I don't have /usr/lib/debug/kernel files (I delete them to save some = space) but I can recompile a new kernel / userland if it's needed. Any idea what the issue is? kgdb /boot/kernel/kernel ./vmcore.0 GNU gdb (GDB) 8.3 [GDB v8.3 for FreeBSD] Copyright (C) 2019 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later = This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type "show copying" and "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "x86_64-portbld-freebsd12.0". Type "show configuration" for configuration details. For bug reporting instructions, please see: . Find the GDB manual and other documentation resources online at: . For help, type "help". Type "apropos word" to search for commands related to "word"... Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/kernel... (No debugging symbols found in /boot/kernel/kernel) 0xffffffff80bff56a in sched_switch () (kgdb) bt #0 0xffffffff80bff56a in sched_switch () #1 0xffffffff80bd9be2 in mi_switch () #2 0xffffffff80c29175 in sleepq_catch_signals () #3 0xffffffff80c28caf in sleepq_wait_sig () #4 0xffffffff80bd960a in _sleep () #5 0xffffffff80c64e02 in solisten_dequeue () #6 0xffffffff80c6c763 in kern_accept4 () #7 0xffffffff80c6ca40 in accept1 () #8 0xffffffff810a48b4 in amd64_syscall () #9 #10 0x0000000800ad68ca in ?? 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I find that the current setting makes it difficult for me to get a window expansion cursor without a lot of back and forth or an extremely slow deliberate movement of the mouse until I get the exact edge to display the resize cursor. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 23 18:24:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5DEFBE6D; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 18:24:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from corvid.alerce.com (corvid.alerce.com [206.125.171.163]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46cXmR59mTz4LRZ; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 18:24:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from postfix.alerce.com (76-226-160-236.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [76.226.160.236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corvid.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C4E1A515FA; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 11:24:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alerce.com; s=dkim; t=1569263086; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=n9Df9x9RuzbkenArrIxR+ictZ6MkU6rR639K1cnrmaw=; b=Ed5nEo14Pvo1WMolfSLdlRooSoQdtTJa2BMPRIUHt940hswFeH5zuf0ojSwUWaA8FJE6NX hm3nYeqmaviGzy74xG4XTAZiuKnIjIl/UT2TrZgudpp9J5jE8lBPzN1AN51IukIKy0aSFM nFfPgbc1cALWpjKACS9YefIB73kW8p6WdMm20NeV6cy58uFfVj4hCSaCdSzKOX15EFs+ZK ie3FAfSm/ZJRmluElV/PTNJcdbftZUZpX2Jg1DPu+iaYWshevQgE0rW0mhAoAKM3XpfEtp NSZWAVK3SvI1BzFsWz/epqaSPoZfKWNzRAXwG3VeXd7XiemHxdV2ib8nXUbMoA== Received: by postfix.alerce.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 19AB320125F060; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 11:24:47 -0700 (PDT) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <23945.3567.44900.631073@alice.local> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 11:24:47 -0700 To: hartzell@alerce.com Cc: freebsd-ports , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Problem overriding ports with portshaker. In-Reply-To: <23943.45748.104392.96450@alice.local> References: <23943.45748.104392.96450@alice.local> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 26.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin14.5.0) Reply-To: hartzell@alerce.com X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46cXmR59mTz4LRZ X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=alerce.com header.s=dkim header.b=Ed5nEo14; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=alerce.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of hartzell@alerce.com designates 206.125.171.163 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=hartzell@alerce.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.61 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[alerce.com:s=dkim]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[hartzell@alerce.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[alerce.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[alerce.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.61)[ip: (-8.22), ipnet: 206.125.168.0/21(-4.49), asn: 25795(-0.31), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:206.125.168.0/21, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 18:24:56 -0000 George Hartzell writes: > > I've been happily using portshaker to merge my "personal" ports tree > [1] with the standard tree, then building things with poudriere. Up > until today the things in my tree were additions. > > Today I tried replacing the standard copy of audio/logitechmusicserver > with a customized version that includes my SSL patch [2] and I suspect > I'll also need something like the Perl 5.30 patch [3]. I'm getting a > confusing error when I try to merge the trees: > > ``` > hartzell@corvid:/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio % sudo portshaker -M > make: "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk" line 32: Cannot open /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > make: "/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver/Makefile" line 87: Malformed conditional (${ARCH} == "i386") > make: "/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver/Makefile" line 94: Malformed conditional (${ARCH} == "amd64") > make: "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk" line 32: Cannot open /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > make: Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue[: make: stopped in /usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver: bad number > make: "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk" line 32: Cannot open /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > make: "/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver/Makefile" line 87: Malformed conditional (${ARCH} == "i386") > make: "/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver/Makefile" line 94: Malformed conditional (${ARCH} == "amd64") > make: "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk" line 32: Cannot open /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > make: Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue[: make: stopped in /usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver: bad number > [: make: stopped in /usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver: bad number > hartzell@corvid:/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio % > ``` > > Interestingly, adding `PORTREVISION= 1` to my copy of the port gives a > shorter version of the same error message: > > ``` > hartzell@corvid:/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio % sudo portshaker -M > make: "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk" line 32: Cannot open /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > make: "/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver/Makefile" line 88: Malformed conditional (${ARCH} == "i386") > make: "/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver/Makefile" line 95: Malformed conditional (${ARCH} == "amd64") > make: "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk" line 32: Cannot open /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > make: Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue[: make: stopped in /usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver: bad number > hartzell@corvid:/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio % > ``` > > Everything works fine if I rename my customized port to > e.g. `gh-logitechmusicserver`, but I thought that one of the goals of > portshaker was to override local ports. > > I can live with just giving my port a custom name, but I'd like to > understand where my disconnect is (am I doing it wrong, or > misunderstanding something, or ...). > > Thanks for any insights, Answering my own question, the issue seems to be that I didn't have /usr/ports populated. Since I'm doing all of my builds and etc via poudriere I have no need of wasting the disk space, but populating it via portsnap has "fixed" the problem. g. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 23 19:19:23 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6FDFCF57 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 19:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46cYzG0h4Sz4PFt for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 19:19:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.227.216]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue108 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MXY6b-1igXCH3EYZ-00YxDn; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 21:19:14 +0200 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 21:19:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Mrityunjoy Ghosh Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clarification about creating .xinitrc file for xfce Message-Id: <20190923211913.dee65a38.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:C4bGHbJj2itcaBFylUZh9OyZlMdtgoHuZfLywvyjlEbhq7vQsFW dzmxokCvD0AENSt/BjVYZsJRH51ChGEIOUGZvgTCoR/Z0PHHtTyBAWkcIB5XWKuBdPeZHK8 Zc1I/L7KyTIcGISli7DATCSak+Uts67s+oOl+7prjVQ3cW2NvMtylZB+w+72CxQ9z23MFBc aiVBuJk4YQQa25+7woumg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:WpO57wQfS2I=:npk3IYTAehKgvCrhQG9k31 J171kdy1upxi/pXbxZhiMzlBrvVOJeVwDBGq9JVZsnAsoY+P0IXpzAq16i9K9LHStxNR7fAzf zMim25zsEINulYLM1FTGE4PHdkdgx043AS3S85slOthZlTJnraAsD91t4Gt/87fChKiXk5Dn5 1j5GBqRma0YtkFeSlOQATT19vZoxO1alKKkbaEgvJmtOib/w2xuSGb65G5fC5lqI9zBWzcnR3 I6QYfEsAbkfnnt7f0PXIS1kQ9IXIHp3GGUNuIOlgL711YivMFuBVMXatEP0c6ede44PWa/psO ie6e6U7drGC6gEDctvRNRaN6PinFntos265oR6iFj3F61/dRg7sgsOSLLnLGUkRLPnbdxqEYp KeUe+qIHqW54b127eIk5nGcQ9IAb932MsW2xUmkrrUvOPMkmUcZDwdIVQ7a45t44AQS61LO9I 1AQg6UErmPqvASoNRGlgNuWQYfu/cw6IT0sVqcEMYWajbO8usvgO0a9kovMW4Lx7NNwftYggp MzB2TSBjlKzMd8R+LmA8JmGVOhgMALYVFPCVrYwq456rlJv/85cNuL4k2EBNsPq569TzRV0U7 21OOJy1Dfe2+lfBq9ESAyGOhkEpg622YjuNs6nWdAucxTF73ir3aqJD/303mlovl0OQ35jR6z fpju1RLpVdJxwv9a/AiSYe3o/XzJT/48CmBcpff3nuvgvWuuF1cslzCgJ0KJ3GcMJOOUF2eNP ubm+blWgvnxLkMmQOreI2E8ajI97JZw8SSwrrMu4K2LlF1OIfzPWJjAZ/d5i2awVoorpyTdEM KzeCfjMLZLQNjNQTtdCrOx1eDWQa0T+09AgtUVp+sMakj4AiBxvKC/wIeC93R6qC5txsm+po5 NbZV4MKZbaE8/1hJRRKFrOKIht5usCV9y8Mpq9B44= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46cYzG0h4Sz4PFt X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 217.72.192.73) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.06 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[216.227.5.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.15)[0.152,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.98)[0.977,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[73.192.72.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.53)[ip: (0.30), ipnet: 217.72.192.0/20(0.25), asn: 8560(2.13), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 19:19:23 -0000 On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 18:19:48 +0530, Mrityunjoy Ghosh wrote: > Section 5.7.3 for creating .initrc and .xsession file for xfce written as > given below. My question is what is the need of dot after inverted commas > (i.e. ". /usr )? What will happen if it is done this way? > > % echo ". /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc" > ~/.xinitrc > > % echo ". /usr/local/etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc" > ~/.xsession The sh shell command ". " inputs the specified file at the current position. You can find a typical use at the top of /etc/rc.bsdextended or at the end of /etc/defaults/rc.conf where external files are included. The C shell's equivalent it "source ". See "man sh" for details. Note: File .xinitrc is used by startx, .xsession is used by display managers such as xdm or slim. Both are ignored by gdm. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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[59.101.184.221]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x6sm15684333pfd.53.2019.09.23.15.21.29 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Sep 2019 15:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.0p10 - Mate-1.22.1 window border To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2c085f1837cfd77d4ee631e86dda40ec.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> From: MJ Message-ID: <9e283775-042d-69cc-a8ca-957030e5c3c9@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 08:21:02 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2c085f1837cfd77d4ee631e86dda40ec.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46cf1V0h8hz4cPY X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=M8lKiHPC; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mafsys1234@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::634 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mafsys1234@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[221.184.101.59.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.3.6.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.04), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.64), asn: 15169(-2.20), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 22:21:35 -0000 On 24/09/2019 3:24 am, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > Is there any way to increase the active border width of desktop > windows in Mate? I find that the current setting makes it difficult > for me to get a window expansion cursor without a lot of back and > forth or an extremely slow deliberate movement of the mouse until I > get the exact edge to display the resize cursor. > Yes! What is with these tiny borders and even tinier event points for windows?!? I think, if I recall, you can hold down alt + right click to grab the window. Cheers Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Sep 23 22:50:53 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E23D122DAF for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 22:50:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46cfgJ1YBXz4dNG for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2019 22:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.227.216]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MBUuV-1iKX7v0M3T-00CxtR; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 00:50:40 +0200 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 00:50:37 +0200 From: Polytropon To: MJ Cc: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-12.0p10 - Mate-1.22.1 window border Message-Id: <20190924005037.5512d843.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <9e283775-042d-69cc-a8ca-957030e5c3c9@gmail.com> References: <2c085f1837cfd77d4ee631e86dda40ec.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <9e283775-042d-69cc-a8ca-957030e5c3c9@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:+qerDZtlwhGVtQ6SCnvDEk+2FFV59HTI0Q7hTFUo/mvZaUxnXJb tHuAbDZA9mjf5mFCuHXsZQl2rvrxWnD2ZisYc/34571UpVVN9+/nItn9EHRtLdm3c64QQcM 8oAF1C5WG2B/Kl5bgoVfK79oBcrIUk+4B9gjzI1bxhPKxpeuscYF9hp4ol4tBvpXDDApjsT ze/nr+1Xih0WdITncOUqQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:49QHm00ojVU=:iHKSj2smlC0acZuziuHiTF 1CBbRbEGTNy7o/cvpR3EyUbdDZEsWwtf/8fCQmckpsY6cbABiYP4M4p5ZsUd1KwrPunTlOKE+ danf8FkgBuqoLPgM28K/G0/V8ycqinKw4IXNJMbAhsZf0Awn+PfplHdO8Okj7hso3QpL+3XL8 ueLepNTUDBxLUm9uBpqq6KbHEai6mycxZz/WFpvQrX9/GcL3mmHgT0d22GLGNjE0+2gD6Gflx aHJMr9kZ4fIU/C6Shol+QpXeo+iiwbEu/VDVW/9cTTmD2RqL9MVtL++LosbdRGkOiAW6xf53q iQCzHD8M/M9VHVD1+MTV7zAplKzt54n72xuNO/Xoaz1w6ziubAMuYWcVCkAg5Foo6B01kzW+D p1rQAqJCj8A/0pc2Snus9cwqKrYNA/CwJdYw5KVcinCc0k21nIL8F+i6DCmGGBgPPwK2+b/2u 05KD2cuHQ7PMHMLtIULszHMuFUb8fockeYzIpP5JOfuvA4eoaErlm5nRhbkHi4dc/AQB70lZF bypwiJA9Bn+bh2tF5/YTwCMpe+nIlqzC7cZUi18f0ZptXfJqJKIWN6X+DOeaHosGOCBAdpI8t DA4lUBpsgvEYkVuxIImsCjnVvGWn+wqvc0vZ8ya9Xu7ZunErpEcgJpVAOBQpfLgvJPRCH8xQN uTJ4F75mUjZK9Y+NbCF9UAjc4XkWjPrjQ1T/aUmEpZo6yeACrjBzvNaBdM8raGYdirucg1AXd kv6CsOt/yWlnTf5qrT3+CpMuoh14hJ7XXIKSTmDGdtIKjRa5TBKbiSPI3XJ/ZAuSyxzJsBVmC 1u0ZkEVcbWmZcAG90NutJ/oxKLxnW7Ly5fCEwMS43s9JjrgNLutsj0AYTGbJcI0SIxqAKKbax gVGRvCAy11nBAFSZUM2l/Wkn96dN+xIdBovE/V9WY= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46cfgJ1YBXz4dNG X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.187) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.89 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[216.227.5.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.56)[-0.558,0]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.80)[0.800,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.24)[ip: (0.46), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.36), asn: 8560(2.13), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 22:50:53 -0000 On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 08:21:02 +1000, MJ wrote: > > On 24/09/2019 3:24 am, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > > Is there any way to increase the active border width of desktop > > windows in Mate? I find that the current setting makes it difficult > > for me to get a window expansion cursor without a lot of back and > > forth or an extremely slow deliberate movement of the mouse until I > > get the exact edge to display the resize cursor. > > > > Yes! > > What is with these tiny borders and even tinier event points for windows?!? That's currently considered "modern", and consistent with the single-computer single-user single-program single-window single-task mentality... > I think, if I recall, you can hold down alt + right click to grab the window. Usw Alt + left mouse button to drag the window around. Use Alt + right mouse button to change the window's size. Pretty standard. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 24 08:09:35 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E77FCD98; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 08:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from igorr@pochta-mx.canmos.ru) Received: from pochta-mx.canmos.ru (pochta-mx.canmos.ru [89.107.127.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46cv3y4KCpz49Pk; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 08:09:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from igorr@pochta-mx.canmos.ru) Received: from pochta-mx.canmos.ru (pochta-mx.canmos.ru [89.107.127.240]) by pochta-mx.canmos.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F0862DBBB1A; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 11:15:11 +0300 (MSK) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2-pochta_20190408 (2011-06-06) on pochta.canmos.ru X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2-pochta_20190408 X-Spam-Report: * -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] Received: from pochta-mx.canmos.ru (pochta-mx.canmos.ru [89.107.127.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by pochta-mx.canmos.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 11:15:11 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 11:15:11 +0300 (MSK) From: "Igor V. Ruzanov" X-X-Sender: igorr@pochta.canmos.ru To: Christos Chatzaras cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , freebsd-stable Subject: Re: help with crash dump In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-GPG-PUBLIC-KEY: 1024D/F433BDD5 2009-06-17 Igor V. 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(show the list via kldstat) |Randomly every few weeks / months one of the servers I manage gets a panic. It doesn't happen on the same server every time. | |I run FreeBSD stable compiled on 2 September 2019 but it did happen with previous versions too and if I remember correctly it did happen with FreeBSD 11 too. | |I don't have /usr/lib/debug/kernel files (I delete them to save some space) but I can recompile a new kernel / userland if it's needed. | |Any idea what the issue is? | |kgdb /boot/kernel/kernel ./vmcore.0 |GNU gdb (GDB) 8.3 [GDB v8.3 for FreeBSD] |Copyright (C) 2019 Free Software Foundation, Inc. |License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later |This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. |There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. |Type "show copying" and "show warranty" for details. |This GDB was configured as "x86_64-portbld-freebsd12.0". |Type "show configuration" for configuration details. |For bug reporting instructions, please see: |. |Find the GDB manual and other documentation resources online at: | . | |For help, type "help". |Type "apropos word" to search for commands related to "word"... |Reading symbols from /boot/kernel/kernel... |(No debugging symbols found in /boot/kernel/kernel) |0xffffffff80bff56a in sched_switch () |(kgdb) bt |#0 0xffffffff80bff56a in sched_switch () |#1 0xffffffff80bd9be2 in mi_switch () |#2 0xffffffff80c29175 in sleepq_catch_signals () |#3 0xffffffff80c28caf in sleepq_wait_sig () |#4 0xffffffff80bd960a in _sleep () |#5 0xffffffff80c64e02 in solisten_dequeue () |#6 0xffffffff80c6c763 in kern_accept4 () |#7 0xffffffff80c6ca40 in accept1 () |#8 0xffffffff810a48b4 in amd64_syscall () |#9 |#10 0x0000000800ad68ca in ?? () |Backtrace stopped: Cannot access memory at address 0x7ffffffee648 |_______________________________________________ |freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list |https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions |To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" | From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 24 08:59:12 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B100FE07F for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 08:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@cretaforce.gr) Received: from relay1.cretaforce.gr (relay1.cretaforce.gr [195.201.253.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.cretaforce.gr", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46cw9C1CPxz4Ctw for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 08:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@cretaforce.gr) Received: from server1.cretaforce.gr (server1.cretaforce.gr [138.201.248.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.cretaforce.gr", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by smtp1.cretaforce.gr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C348F1F477 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 11:59:08 +0300 (EEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cretaforce.gr; s=cretaforce; t=1569315548; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=vszOrI0T+mSHRRrRPuCBn0uQsfh2obaQzCoWNaLrGLk=; b=cdAeTmepDamRygLfNMOfF4Oryqoem3cp0nEzxDgzPuVAw5gakHYfEjdfqmFxG0/CTVbmSZ fRWUnyboQJV7pc+fRFCyohmRSdIe60/Y6VpCKRCY2/FOBLR7VLY70xkDp/2U5xqgEuzV89 e8OpKUGIfuJ2rvAfYTJSM0MN/JOv2do= Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [83.235.111.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: chris@cretaforce.gr) by server1.cretaforce.gr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7B7E12732E; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 11:59:08 +0300 (EEST) From: Christos Chatzaras Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: help with crash dump Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 11:59:07 +0300 References: To: freebsd-stable , FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46cw9C1CPxz4Ctw X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cretaforce.gr header.s=cretaforce header.b=cdAeTmep; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of chris@cretaforce.gr designates 195.201.253.145 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=chris@cretaforce.gr X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.13 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cretaforce.gr:s=cretaforce]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:195.201.253.145]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cretaforce.gr]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[cretaforce.gr.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cretaforce.gr:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-1.03)[ipnet: 195.201.0.0/16(-3.37), asn: 24940(-1.78), country: DE(-0.01)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[145.253.201.195.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:195.201.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 08:59:12 -0000 Id Refs Address Size Name 1 12 0xffffffff80200000 2446480 kernel 2 1 0xffffffff82648000 281e0 geom_mirror.ko 3 1 0xffffffff82a21000 88e8 tmpfs.ko 4 1 0xffffffff82a2a000 258f8 ipfw.ko 5 1 0xffffffff82a50000 acf mac_ntpd.ko 6 1 0xffffffff82a51000 2940 nullfs.ko > On 24 Sep 2019, at 11:15, Igor V. Ruzanov = wrote: >=20 > What kernel modules do you load with this kernel? (show the list via=20= > kldstat) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 24 09:37:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55EDFEF67; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 09:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from igorr@pochta-mx.canmos.ru) Received: from pochta-mx.canmos.ru (pochta-mx.canmos.ru [89.107.127.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46cx1Q1R7Qz4FcT; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 09:37:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from igorr@pochta-mx.canmos.ru) Received: from pochta-mx.canmos.ru (pochta-mx.canmos.ru [89.107.127.240]) by pochta-mx.canmos.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65DE2DBC388; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 12:43:13 +0300 (MSK) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2-pochta_20190408 (2011-06-06) on pochta.canmos.ru X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2-pochta_20190408 X-Spam-Report: * -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] Received: from pochta-mx.canmos.ru (pochta-mx.canmos.ru [89.107.127.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by pochta-mx.canmos.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 12:43:13 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 12:43:13 +0300 (MSK) From: "Igor V. Ruzanov" X-X-Sender: igorr@pochta.canmos.ru To: Christos Chatzaras cc: freebsd-stable , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: help with crash dump In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-GPG-PUBLIC-KEY: 1024D/F433BDD5 2009-06-17 Igor V. Ruzanov X-GPG-FINGERPRINT: 5030 C793 4238 FAFF 827F 0E99 FDCE 63DD F433 BDD5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46cx1Q1R7Qz4FcT X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=canmos.ru (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of igorr@pochta-mx.canmos.ru has no SPF policy when checking 89.107.127.240) smtp.mailfrom=igorr@pochta-mx.canmos.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.78 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.94)[-0.940,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(0.06)[ipnet: 89.107.120.0/21(0.15), asn: 39821(0.12), country: RU(0.01)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:39821, ipnet:89.107.120.0/21, country:RU]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[canmos.ru : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 09:37:31 -0000 Is your kernel custom and you were compile it? If yes, could you please send kernel config to here? |Id Refs Address Size Name | 1 12 0xffffffff80200000 2446480 kernel | 2 1 0xffffffff82648000 281e0 geom_mirror.ko | 3 1 0xffffffff82a21000 88e8 tmpfs.ko | 4 1 0xffffffff82a2a000 258f8 ipfw.ko | 5 1 0xffffffff82a50000 acf mac_ntpd.ko | 6 1 0xffffffff82a51000 2940 nullfs.ko | | | | |> On 24 Sep 2019, at 11:15, Igor V. Ruzanov wrote: |> |> What kernel modules do you load with this kernel? (show the list via |> kldstat) | |_______________________________________________ |freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list |https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions |To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" | From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 24 10:08:18 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722AA121012 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 10:08:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@cretaforce.gr) Received: from relay1.cretaforce.gr (relay1.cretaforce.gr [195.201.253.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.cretaforce.gr", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46cxhx10JJz4HFW for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 10:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@cretaforce.gr) Received: from server1.cretaforce.gr (server1.cretaforce.gr [138.201.248.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.cretaforce.gr", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by smtp1.cretaforce.gr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6685C1F4B8 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 13:08:14 +0300 (EEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cretaforce.gr; s=cretaforce; t=1569319694; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=wALRHEvrJ5VdATj3nt9P5tmvjkuO4HMcF3z8l0n9SII=; b=f10yQ9++Vgx1oSg2V0Vd1ZUJIDSbdm/K54ag+PnQReMX3c+7rksxsrrzfrfxH/dxGFxRsY ETlw9M9lHv50i+iq++jPD1oXdlJ0xacFePdmoun9+yBxIrQepr8EZtvsO1L7Ega/xzq8lV cPYPGTm0DU+QOkDEeSgyERS0p0m8Ppw= Received: from [192.168.2.2] (unknown [83.235.111.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: chris@cretaforce.gr) by server1.cretaforce.gr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1AFF42732E; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 13:08:14 +0300 (EEST) From: Christos Chatzaras Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: help with crash dump Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 13:08:12 +0300 References: To: freebsd-stable , FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <1B731F7D-12EA-48E7-9D75-BA83990FE785@cretaforce.gr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46cxhx10JJz4HFW X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cretaforce.gr header.s=cretaforce header.b=f10yQ9++; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of chris@cretaforce.gr designates 195.201.253.145 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=chris@cretaforce.gr X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.13 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cretaforce.gr:s=cretaforce]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:195.201.253.145]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cretaforce.gr]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[cretaforce.gr.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cretaforce.gr:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-1.04)[ipnet: 195.201.0.0/16(-3.39), asn: 24940(-1.78), country: DE(-0.01)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[145.253.201.195.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:195.201.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 10:08:18 -0000 > On 24 Sep 2019, at 12:43, Igor V. Ruzanov = wrote: >=20 > Is your kernel custom and you were compile it? If yes, could you = please=20 > send kernel config to here? The kernel is from 12.0-STABLE r351639. I use the GENERIC config to compile the kernel but with custom src.conf: cat /etc/src.conf WITHOUT_AUTHPF=3Dyes WITHOUT_AUTOFS=3Dyes WITHOUT_BHYVE=3Dyes WITHOUT_BLUETOOTH=3Dyes WITHOUT_BOOTPARAMD=3Dyes WITHOUT_BOOTPD=3Dyes WITHOUT_BSDINSTALL=3Dyes WITHOUT_CCD=3Dyes WITHOUT_CTM=3Dyes WITHOUT_CUSE=3Dyes WITHOUT_CXGBETOOL=3Dyes WITHOUT_DEBUG_FILES=3Dyes WITHOUT_FLOPPY=3Dyes WITHOUT_FREEBSD_UPDATE=3Dyes WITHOUT_GCOV=3Dyes WITHOUT_HAST=3Dyes WITHOUT_HTML=3Dyes WITHOUT_HYPERV=3Dyes WITHOUT_I4B=3Dyes WITHOUT_IPFILTER=3Dyes WITHOUT_LPR=3Dyes WITHOUT_MLX5TOOL=3Dyes WITHOUT_MODULE_DRM=3Dyes WITHOUT_MODULE_DRM2=3Dyes WITHOUT_NCP=3Dyes WITHOUT_NDIS=3Dyes WITHOUT_OBJC=3Dyes WITHOUT_PF=3Dyes WITHOUT_PMC=3Dyes WITHOUT_PPP=3Dyes WITHOUT_PROFILE=3Dyes WITHOUT_RADIUS_SUPPORT=3Dyes WITHOUT_RBOOTD=3Dyes WITHOUT_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD=3Dyes WITHOUT_SHAREDOCS=3Dyes WITHOUT_SYSINSTALL=3Dyes WITHOUT_TESTS=3Dyes WITHOUT_TFTP=3Dyes WITHOUT_TIMED=3Dyes WITHOUT_USB_GADGET_EXAMPLES=3Dyes WITHOUT_WIRELESS=3Dyes WITHOUT_WPA_SUPPLICANT_EAPOL=3Dyes WITHOUT_ZFS=3Dyes= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 24 11:09:45 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950B212267F; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 11:09:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from igorr@pochta-mx.canmos.ru) Received: from pochta-mx.canmos.ru (pochta-mx.canmos.ru [89.107.127.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46cz3r3Rqyz4Knk; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 11:09:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from igorr@pochta-mx.canmos.ru) Received: from pochta-mx.canmos.ru (pochta-mx.canmos.ru [89.107.127.240]) by pochta-mx.canmos.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521912DBC386; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 14:15:27 +0300 (MSK) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2-pochta_20190408 (2011-06-06) on pochta.canmos.ru X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2-pochta_20190408 X-Spam-Report: * -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] Received: from pochta-mx.canmos.ru (pochta-mx.canmos.ru [89.107.127.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by pochta-mx.canmos.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 14:15:27 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 14:15:27 +0300 (MSK) From: "Igor V. Ruzanov" X-X-Sender: igorr@pochta.canmos.ru To: Christos Chatzaras cc: freebsd-stable , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: help with crash dump In-Reply-To: <1B731F7D-12EA-48E7-9D75-BA83990FE785@cretaforce.gr> Message-ID: References: <1B731F7D-12EA-48E7-9D75-BA83990FE785@cretaforce.gr> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) X-GPG-PUBLIC-KEY: 1024D/F433BDD5 2009-06-17 Igor V. Ruzanov X-GPG-FINGERPRINT: 5030 C793 4238 FAFF 827F 0E99 FDCE 63DD F433 BDD5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46cz3r3Rqyz4Knk X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=canmos.ru (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of igorr@pochta-mx.canmos.ru has no SPF policy when checking 89.107.127.240) smtp.mailfrom=igorr@pochta-mx.canmos.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.58 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.89)[-0.887,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.988,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(0.19)[ip: (0.68), ipnet: 89.107.120.0/21(0.15), asn: 39821(0.12), country: RU(0.01)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:39821, ipnet:89.107.120.0/21, country:RU]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[canmos.ru : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 11:09:45 -0000 Please try to remove 'WITHOUT_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD' option and recompile the kernel to see if it will be stable in your context. The modern FreeBSD releses (12.0 for example) is with reproducible build enabled now. As quck check, tell uname -a and you will give the following output: FreeBSD xxx.yourdomain.tld 12.0-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p10 #0: Mon Oct 24 18:49:24 UTC 2016 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 And without WITHOUT_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD you should see the ident: FreeBSD xxx.yourdomin.tld 12.0-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE-p10 GENERIC amd64 | |> On 24 Sep 2019, at 12:43, Igor V. Ruzanov wrote: |> |> Is your kernel custom and you were compile it? If yes, could you please |> send kernel config to here? | | |The kernel is from 12.0-STABLE r351639. | |I use the GENERIC config to compile the kernel but with custom src.conf: | |cat /etc/src.conf | |WITHOUT_AUTHPF=yes |WITHOUT_AUTOFS=yes |WITHOUT_BHYVE=yes |WITHOUT_BLUETOOTH=yes |WITHOUT_BOOTPARAMD=yes |WITHOUT_BOOTPD=yes |WITHOUT_BSDINSTALL=yes |WITHOUT_CCD=yes |WITHOUT_CTM=yes |WITHOUT_CUSE=yes |WITHOUT_CXGBETOOL=yes |WITHOUT_DEBUG_FILES=yes |WITHOUT_FLOPPY=yes |WITHOUT_FREEBSD_UPDATE=yes |WITHOUT_GCOV=yes |WITHOUT_HAST=yes |WITHOUT_HTML=yes |WITHOUT_HYPERV=yes |WITHOUT_I4B=yes |WITHOUT_IPFILTER=yes |WITHOUT_LPR=yes |WITHOUT_MLX5TOOL=yes |WITHOUT_MODULE_DRM=yes |WITHOUT_MODULE_DRM2=yes |WITHOUT_NCP=yes |WITHOUT_NDIS=yes |WITHOUT_OBJC=yes |WITHOUT_PF=yes |WITHOUT_PMC=yes |WITHOUT_PPP=yes |WITHOUT_PROFILE=yes |WITHOUT_RADIUS_SUPPORT=yes |WITHOUT_RBOOTD=yes |WITHOUT_REPRODUCIBLE_BUILD=yes |WITHOUT_SHAREDOCS=yes |WITHOUT_SYSINSTALL=yes |WITHOUT_TESTS=yes |WITHOUT_TFTP=yes |WITHOUT_TIMED=yes |WITHOUT_USB_GADGET_EXAMPLES=yes |WITHOUT_WIRELESS=yes |WITHOUT_WPA_SUPPLICANT_EAPOL=yes |WITHOUT_ZFS=yes |_______________________________________________ |freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list |https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions |To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" | From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 25 00:49:17 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54547F68A9 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 00:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@oxu.publicvm.com) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46dKFT11pCz4D9K for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 00:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@oxu.publicvm.com) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 214E9F68A8; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 00:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FEE7F68A7 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 00:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@oxu.publicvm.com) Received: from oxu.publicvm.com (oxu.publicvm.com [179.43.149.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46dKFS08rhz4D9J for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 00:49:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@oxu.publicvm.com) Received: from WIN-1Q1E6E5L3S2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by oxu.publicvm.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id x8P0m2hs030898 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2019 20:48:02 -0400 Message-ID: <03e269a3-43733-82830751103935@win-1q1e6e5l3s2> Reply-To: "Aiysha Asuman" From: "Aiysha Asuman" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: I have emailed twice Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 01:47:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46dKFS08rhz4D9J X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of info@oxu.publicvm.com designates 179.43.149.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=info@oxu.publicvm.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.60 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[asumanaiysha9@gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+a]; REPLYTO_DN_EQ_FROM_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_X_PRIO_THREE(0.00)[3]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-0.13)[ip: (-1.26), ipnet: 179.43.128.0/18(-0.33), asn: 51852(0.93), country: CH(0.01)]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:51852, ipnet:179.43.128.0/18, country:CH]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.85)[-0.855,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.92)[-0.920,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FREEMAIL_REPLYTO(0.00)[gmail.com]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[oxu.publicvm.com]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; RBL_SENDERSCORE(2.00)[176.149.43.179.bl.score.senderscore.com]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 00:49:17 -0000 Hello questions@freebsd.org I have tried to email this your questions@freebsd.org mail account twice but I got no response, please if you have seen this message I need you to revert back to me, I have an important matter to discuss. 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Does freebsd current and freebsd stable 12 fully support all features of AMD Radeon RX 5700, Vega and RX 500 series including the hardware video decoding features? 2. From website, https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics#AMD_Graphics, it says "Update drm-stable to Linux 4.16 for FreeBSD 12.0". Does it mean freebsd hardware support or drivers are copied or translated from linux kernel codes? 3. How are freebsd hardware support really developed? In linux kernel mailing list, there are over 2,000 emails per day from hardware vendors such as Intel, AMD, Huawei, Samsung, Sony submitting patches or hardware drivers. What about BSD? I did not find any such equivalence in freebsd after googling. Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 25 04:23:23 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF17CFA5B6; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 04:23:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from romain@blogreen.org) Received: from marvin.blogreen.org (blogreen.org [88.161.59.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46dQ0W06Cxz4NHX; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 04:23:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from romain@blogreen.org) Received: by marvin.blogreen.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2949CC38E5; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 06:16:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 06:16:45 +0200 From: Romain =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tarti=E8re?= To: George Hartzell Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Problem overriding ports with portshaker. Message-ID: <20190925041645.GA11443@blogreen.org> Mail-Followup-To: George Hartzell , FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-ports References: <23943.45748.104392.96450@alice.local> <23945.3567.44900.631073@alice.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <23945.3567.44900.631073@alice.local> X-PGP-Key: http://romain.blogreen.org/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46dQ0W06Cxz4NHX X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of romain@blogreen.org designates 88.161.59.228 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=romain@blogreen.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.96 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[romain@freebsd.org,romain@blogreen.org]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12322, ipnet:88.160.0.0/12, country:FR]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[romain@freebsd.org,romain@blogreen.org]; IP_SCORE(-0.96)[ipnet: 88.160.0.0/12(-2.84), asn: 12322(-1.94), country: FR(-0.00)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 04:23:24 -0000 --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Problem overriding ports with portshaker. On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 11:24:47AM -0700, George Hartzell wrote: > > hartzell@corvid:/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio % = sudo portshaker -M > > make: "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk" line 32: Cannot open /usr/ports/Mk/b= sd.port.mk > > make: "/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmed= iaserver/Makefile" line 87: Malformed conditional (${ARCH} =3D=3D "i386") > > make: "/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmed= iaserver/Makefile" line 94: Malformed conditional (${ARCH} =3D=3D "amd64") > > make: "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk" line 32: Cannot open /usr/ports/Mk/b= sd.port.mk > > make: Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue[: make: stopped in /= usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver: bad= number > > make: "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk" line 32: Cannot open /usr/ports/Mk/b= sd.port.mk > > make: "/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmed= iaserver/Makefile" line 87: Malformed conditional (${ARCH} =3D=3D "i386") > > make: "/usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmed= iaserver/Makefile" line 94: Malformed conditional (${ARCH} =3D=3D "amd64") > > make: "/usr/share/mk/bsd.port.mk" line 32: Cannot open /usr/ports/Mk/b= sd.port.mk > > make: Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue[: make: stopped in /= usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audio/logitechmediaserver: bad= number > > [: make: stopped in /usr/portshaker/github_hartzell_freebsd-ports/audi= o/logitechmediaserver: bad number Can you try setting PORTSDIR to your target ports tree, e.g. % sudo env PORTSDIR=3D/usr/local/poudriere/ports/default portshaker -M My guess is that since Mk/bsd.port.mk was not found, ARCH is not set and the Makefile is malformed. If you confirm it fixes your issue, I'll commit something to do this automagically. 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Does freebsd current and freebsd stable 12 fully support all features > of AMD Radeon RX 5700, Vega and RX 500 series including the hardware video > decoding features? > AMD Radeon support is probably the weakest of the three main GPU providers, but someone else may be able to confirm the status of those particular units. You would be far more likely to get information on X related issues by sending to the x11@freebsd.org mailing list. > > 2. From website, https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics#AMD_Graphics, it says > "Update drm-stable to Linux 4.16 for FreeBSD 12.0". Does it mean freebsd > hardware support or drivers are copied or translated from linux kernel > codes? > They are derived with minimal changes from the Linux code. FreeBSD has kernel modules that provide kernel support. These modules are not part of FreeBSD. They are GPL licensed, so are built as a port, drm-kmod and a group of slave ports that are for specific kernel versions. > > 3. How are freebsd hardware support really developed? In linux kernel > mailing list, there are over 2,000 emails per day from hardware vendors > such as Intel, AMD, Huawei, Samsung, Sony submitting patches or hardware > drivers. What about BSD? I did not find any such equivalence in freebsd > after googling. > Only Nvidia provides any significant support for its products on FreeBSD and, as a result, almost all other X code is identical or very nearly identical to the Linux code. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 25 08:09:52 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C80BFEA4E for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 08:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@sdf.org) Received: from mx.sdf.org (ol.sdf.org [205.166.94.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx.sdf.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46dW1q31gWz4XtM for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 08:09:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mayuresh@sdf.org) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:mayuresh@sdf.lonestar.org [205.166.94.16]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id x8P89nTp025770 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO) for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 08:09:49 GMT Received: (from mayuresh@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id x8P89nR7000099 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 08:09:49 GMT Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 08:09:49 GMT From: Mayuresh Kathe Message-Id: <201909250809.x8P89nR7000099@sdf.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: developers handbook : how to make a pdf? 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To: Mayuresh Kathe , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201909250809.x8P89nR7000099@sdf.org> From: MJ Message-ID: <6918d7ca-08a1-aed5-146e-2fba533e9c39@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 19:04:50 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201909250809.x8P89nR7000099@sdf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46dXFv2Hqnz4bpk X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=raswemiR; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mafsys1234@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::535 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mafsys1234@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[19.123.101.59.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.5.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.33), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.62), asn: 15169(-2.19), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 09:05:24 -0000 On 25/09/2019 6:09 pm, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > i would like to have a printable 'pdf' of the whole document > at https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/x86.html > how do i get it? > ____________________ It depends on what you want to use. Libreoffice has a "save as" option. 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To: Mayuresh Kathe Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46dXdJ4N0Cz4cwV X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=keDm4Zhw; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rolandwells@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::42c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rolandwells@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.20), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.91), asn: 15169(-2.19), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[c.2.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 09:22:13 -0000 On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 10:10 AM Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > i would like to have a printable 'pdf' of the whole document > at https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/x86.html > how do i get it? > try here: https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/book.pdf or various other languages / formats here: https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/doc/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 25 14:28:51 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6843D128C01 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:28:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46dgR62X7Sz3y9f for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:28:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C3B6E4E660 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 09:28:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: The support for AMD graphics and how freebsd hardware support To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190925034746.GA2312@whitehouse.gov> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 09:28:49 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46dgR62X7Sz3y9f X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.80 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.90)[-0.900,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.986,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:28:51 -0000 On 2019-09-25 01:04, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:56 PM wrote: > >> developed >> Reply-To: >> X-Priority: 1 >> Importance: high >> Disposition-Notification-To: >> X-Confirm-Reading-To: >> Return-Receipt-To: >> Hello, >> 1. Does freebsd current and freebsd stable 12 fully support all features >> of AMD Radeon RX 5700, Vega and RX 500 series including the hardware video >> decoding features? >> > > AMD Radeon support is probably the weakest of the three main GPU providers, > but someone else may be able to confirm the status of those particular > units. You would be far more likely to get information on X related issues > by sending to the x11@freebsd.org mailing list. > >> >> 2. From website, https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics#AMD_Graphics, it says >> "Update drm-stable to Linux 4.16 for FreeBSD 12.0". Does it mean freebsd >> hardware support or drivers are copied or translated from linux kernel >> codes? >> > > They are derived with minimal changes from the Linux code. FreeBSD has > kernel modules that provide kernel support. These modules are not part of > FreeBSD. They are GPL licensed, so are built as a port, drm-kmod and a > group of slave ports that are for specific kernel versions. > >> >> 3. How are freebsd hardware support really developed? In linux kernel >> mailing list, there are over 2,000 emails per day from hardware vendors >> such as Intel, AMD, Huawei, Samsung, Sony submitting patches or hardware >> drivers. What about BSD? I did not find any such equivalence in freebsd >> after googling. >> > > Only Nvidia provides any significant support for its products on FreeBSD > and, as a result, almost all other X code is identical or very nearly > identical to the Linux code. My impression, however, has always been that NVIDIA never provides substantial specifications of internals of their hardware (thus there is no way to write decent open source driver), and they provide only binary drivers which are accompanied by source code (to a degree kernel specific) of interface between binary driver and kernel (the last is what you compile against your kernel). Am I wrong or awfully outdated with my understanding? Thanks. Valeri > -- > Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com > PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 25 15:07:54 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A485129C23; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 15:07:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CSO@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46dhJ865Jbz41cD; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 15:07:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CSO@riseup.net) Received: from bell.riseup.net (bell-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F411E1A0A8C; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 08:07:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1569424071; bh=cVGCwg7QtHHbw9euiB7YzWSRIPbTR3QtIh9O2NNWxeU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=DRemoz5t0VBiLgewl2XgZXY/6DFZmkxDcOzY/sCJUvpc0qxVGs4dsl0GcqL9g4LtS WN4L7E+GLQcsdjCBCJhLK5IRs8PPuSIi025TaKqwerEE1kyQ6sDamks2KnZr0jGHYN PZQMu6rIEOEPXhDoWIefRljQQ6t2v5Yveomj1EIY= X-Riseup-User-ID: 15FC0006803D9A979A6CF3F37ED08D50D678762F0152F486EA1CC7F3A82015A9 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bell.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 759882255F7; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 08:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 15:00:03 +0000 From: CSO@riseup.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The support for AMD graphics and how freebsd hardware support Message-ID: <20190925150003.GA28054@whitehouse.gov> References: <20190925034746.GA2312@whitehouse.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 1 Importance: high X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46dhJ865Jbz41cD X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=DRemoz5t; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of CSO@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=CSO@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.51 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-3.41)[ip: (-8.96), ipnet: 198.252.153.0/24(-4.48), asn: 16652(-3.58), country: US(-0.05)]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[129.153.252.198.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; HAS_X_PRIO_ONE(0.00)[1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 15:07:54 -0000 On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 09:28:49AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > On 2019-09-25 01:04, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:56 PM wrote: > > > > > developed > > > Reply-To: > > > X-Priority: 1 > > > Importance: high > > > Disposition-Notification-To: > > > X-Confirm-Reading-To: > > > Return-Receipt-To: > > > Hello, > > > 1. Does freebsd current and freebsd stable 12 fully support all features > > > of AMD Radeon RX 5700, Vega and RX 500 series including the hardware video > > > decoding features? > > > > > > > AMD Radeon support is probably the weakest of the three main GPU providers, > > but someone else may be able to confirm the status of those particular > > units. You would be far more likely to get information on X related issues > > by sending to the x11@freebsd.org mailing list. > > > > > > > > 2. From website, https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics#AMD_Graphics, it says > > > "Update drm-stable to Linux 4.16 for FreeBSD 12.0". Does it mean freebsd > > > hardware support or drivers are copied or translated from linux kernel > > > codes? > > > > > > > They are derived with minimal changes from the Linux code. FreeBSD has > > kernel modules that provide kernel support. These modules are not part of > > FreeBSD. They are GPL licensed, so are built as a port, drm-kmod and a > > group of slave ports that are for specific kernel versions. > > > > > > > > 3. How are freebsd hardware support really developed? In linux kernel > > > mailing list, there are over 2,000 emails per day from hardware vendors > > > such as Intel, AMD, Huawei, Samsung, Sony submitting patches or hardware > > > drivers. What about BSD? I did not find any such equivalence in freebsd > > > after googling. > > > > > > > Only Nvidia provides any significant support for its products on FreeBSD > > and, as a result, almost all other X code is identical or very nearly > > identical to the Linux code. > > My impression, however, has always been that NVIDIA never provides > substantial specifications of internals of their hardware (thus there is no > way to write decent open source driver), and they provide only binary > drivers which are accompanied by source code (to a degree kernel specific) > of interface between binary driver and kernel (the last is what you compile > against your kernel). > > Am I wrong or awfully outdated with my understanding? > I think you are right. At least in Linux, the linux kernel 5.3 fully support all the above AMO GPU with built in open source driver. But NVIDIA GPU will not work or display properly without its closed source, proprietary drivers installed. But what is the current stage of freebsd stable and freebsd current' copy of linux drivers and when will linux kernel 5.3 drivers arrive in freebsd? The freebsd website should have had some real time update of such info in order for people to easily build computer system for freebsd. > Thanks. > Valeri > > > -- > > Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer > > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com > > PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Valeri Galtsev > Sr System Administrator > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > University of Chicago > Phone: 773-702-4247 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 25 15:09:22 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1B2129F3C for ; 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I doubt that it's different for FreeBSD, but I might be mistaken. --=20 =E2=80=9CAwards are merely the badges of mediocrity.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=95 Charles Ives From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 25 16:08:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518AE12B799; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 16:08:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johalun@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46djfD1VTcz45dJ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 16:08:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johalun@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [IPv6:2600:8800:6800:18:1265:30ff:fe82:52ff] (unknown [IPv6:2600:8800:6800:18:1265:30ff:fe82:52ff]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: johalun) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B63DBB2C3; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 16:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johalun@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: The support for AMD graphics and how freebsd hardware support To: CSO@riseup.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20190925034746.GA2312@whitehouse.gov> <20190925150003.GA28054@whitehouse.gov> From: Johannes Lundberg Message-ID: <9b571f3e-e193-fde5-fb87-b423c09bf40a@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 09:08:34 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190925150003.GA28054@whitehouse.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 16:08:36 -0000 On 9/25/19 8:00 AM, CSO@riseup.net wrote: > On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 09:28:49AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> On 2019-09-25 01:04, Kevin Oberman wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:56 PM wrote: >>> >>>> developed >>>> Reply-To: >>>> X-Priority: 1 >>>> Importance: high >>>> Disposition-Notification-To: >>>> X-Confirm-Reading-To: >>>> Return-Receipt-To: >>>> Hello, >>>> 1. Does freebsd current and freebsd stable 12 fully support all features >>>> of AMD Radeon RX 5700, Vega and RX 500 series including the hardware video >>>> decoding features? >>>> >>> AMD Radeon support is probably the weakest of the three main GPU providers, >>> but someone else may be able to confirm the status of those particular >>> units. You would be far more likely to get information on X related issues >>> by sending to the x11@freebsd.org mailing list. >>> >>>> 2. From website, https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics#AMD_Graphics, it says >>>> "Update drm-stable to Linux 4.16 for FreeBSD 12.0". Does it mean freebsd >>>> hardware support or drivers are copied or translated from linux kernel >>>> codes? >>>> >>> They are derived with minimal changes from the Linux code. FreeBSD has >>> kernel modules that provide kernel support. These modules are not part of >>> FreeBSD. They are GPL licensed, so are built as a port, drm-kmod and a >>> group of slave ports that are for specific kernel versions. >>> >>>> 3. How are freebsd hardware support really developed? In linux kernel >>>> mailing list, there are over 2,000 emails per day from hardware vendors >>>> such as Intel, AMD, Huawei, Samsung, Sony submitting patches or hardware >>>> drivers. What about BSD? I did not find any such equivalence in freebsd >>>> after googling. >>>> >>> Only Nvidia provides any significant support for its products on FreeBSD >>> and, as a result, almost all other X code is identical or very nearly >>> identical to the Linux code. >> My impression, however, has always been that NVIDIA never provides >> substantial specifications of internals of their hardware (thus there is no >> way to write decent open source driver), and they provide only binary >> drivers which are accompanied by source code (to a degree kernel specific) >> of interface between binary driver and kernel (the last is what you compile >> against your kernel). >> >> Am I wrong or awfully outdated with my understanding? >> > I think you are right. At least in Linux, the linux kernel 5.3 fully > support all the above AMO GPU with built in open source driver. But > NVIDIA GPU will not work or display properly without its closed source, > proprietary drivers installed. > > But what is the current stage of freebsd stable and freebsd current' copy of > linux drivers and when will linux kernel 5.3 drivers arrive in freebsd? Hi! We still have some minor issues with 5.0 that needs to be fixed and since it's all volunteer work, it's hard to say. I would expect that 5.0 is the latest we'll support until at least early next year. /Johannes (maintainer of kernel drm drivers) > > The freebsd website should have had some real time update of such info > in order for people to easily build computer system for freebsd. > >> Thanks. >> Valeri >> >>> -- >>> Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer >>> E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com >>> PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> -- >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Valeri Galtsev >> Sr System Administrator >> Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics >> Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics >> University of Chicago >> Phone: 773-702-4247 >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 25 16:18:46 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6618F12BE11; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 16:18:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from corvid.alerce.com (corvid.alerce.com [206.125.171.163]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46djsx3D9wz46jp; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 16:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from postfix.alerce.com (76-226-160-236.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [76.226.160.236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corvid.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A6537567ED; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 09:18:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alerce.com; s=dkim; t=1569428317; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=eXQ8P9MZ5zl3ZBURpIAOlaQOpzusOB9vT63P6S5FeuY=; b=Bdrq9s3cXNYjsHTqzclCUoPz46WBZEo/tf/X+ai5cNiwbKKeX5qv0w1TpuIo5qAu/GquLe 1yVnUWXvV6rZxziK2t8zv4+MWKkJhJyjZkirnGylfqS6+pVUog69SsKqDZJJBhyrKvG9fZ eZ0VA5LDIjCt23SXe5pXcdsLA7x5YqNVEDn6TKNYRtDBgTMhw9yxdWC6sGmDeqi7uJENbh 2HpSCu6H0VGfNgWYw03PJfsokC5mLP4syGsCRmgIg9W6xqRbAvDV88skG4Q3XRebltOyQ4 W4GnOlgzxVe4TDVU/ZWW2/j8JArwvX355Em9+5U2c2pfYDLTEI+8rufn/r4iog== Received: by postfix.alerce.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 05A9320126BE3B; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 09:18:36 -0700 (PDT) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <23947.37724.943422.207082@alice.local> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 09:18:36 -0700 To: Romain =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tarti=E8re?= Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Problem overriding ports with portshaker. In-Reply-To: <20190925041645.GA11443@blogreen.org> References: <23943.45748.104392.96450@alice.local> <23945.3567.44900.631073@alice.local> <20190925041645.GA11443@blogreen.org> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 26.3 (x86_64-apple-darwin14.5.0) Reply-To: hartzell@alerce.com X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46djsx3D9wz46jp X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=alerce.com header.s=dkim header.b=Bdrq9s3c; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=alerce.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of hartzell@alerce.com designates 206.125.171.163 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=hartzell@alerce.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.68 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[alerce.com:s=dkim]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[hartzell@alerce.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[alerce.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[alerce.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.68)[ip: (-8.50), ipnet: 206.125.168.0/21(-4.52), asn: 25795(-0.32), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:206.125.168.0/21, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 16:18:46 -0000 Romain Tarti=C3=A8re writes: > [...] > Can you try setting PORTSDIR to your target ports tree, e.g. >=20 > % sudo env PORTSDIR=3D/usr/local/poudriere/ports/default portshaker = -M Setting PORTSDIR fixes it for me (different directory, but it works). > My guess is that since Mk/bsd.port.mk was not found, ARCH is not set= and > the Makefile is malformed. Sounds right. > If you confirm it fixes your issue, I'll commit something to do this= > automagically. It does not really make sense to not set PORTSDIR to= the > target ports tree IMO=E2=80=A6 I wasn't aware of PORTSDIR, I'm a long time ports user but this is my first foray into not simply using the stock FreeBSD ports tree. I assumed (!!!) that portshaker knew everything that it needed to know about where the trees were and was doing all of the magic for me. Thanks for the help! g. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 25 17:19:22 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C2512D859; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 17:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from romain@blogreen.org) Received: from marvin.blogreen.org (blogreen.org [88.161.59.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46dlCs68pmz4BsQ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 17:19:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from romain@blogreen.org) Received: by marvin.blogreen.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D3281C3B18; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 19:19:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 19:19:16 +0200 From: Romain =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tarti=E8re?= To: George Hartzell Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-ports Subject: Re: Problem overriding ports with portshaker. Message-ID: <20190925171916.GA37113@blogreen.org> Mail-Followup-To: George Hartzell , FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-ports References: <23943.45748.104392.96450@alice.local> <23945.3567.44900.631073@alice.local> <20190925041645.GA11443@blogreen.org> <23947.37724.943422.207082@alice.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <23947.37724.943422.207082@alice.local> X-PGP-Key: http://romain.blogreen.org/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46dlCs68pmz4BsQ X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.02 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[blogreen.org:s=marvin]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[blogreen.org:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[blogreen.org,quarantine]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-1.02)[ipnet: 88.160.0.0/12(-3.16), asn: 12322(-1.94), country: FR(-0.00)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12322, ipnet:88.160.0.0/12, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 17:19:22 -0000 --GvXjxJ+pjyke8COw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Problem overriding ports with portshaker. On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 09:18:36AM -0700, George Hartzell wrote: > Setting PORTSDIR fixes it for me (different directory, but it works). Excellent! I released portshaker 1.0.18 which address your issue and updated the port accordingly. Thank you for reporting it. 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O haciendo click en el siguiente enlace: unsuscribe from this list From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 25 21:39:54 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C825134161 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 21:39:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marty.pressey@cgifederal.com) Received: from smtp2.cgifederal.com (SMTP2.CGIFEDERAL.COM [38.27.110.8]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.cgifederal.com", Issuer "GeoTrust RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46ds0S6sxTz4bVS for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 21:39:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marty.pressey@cgifederal.com) X-Sender-IP: 10.130.24.52 X-Sender-Reputation: None X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.64,549,1559534400"; d="scan'208,217";a="30133749" X-Amp-Result: SKIPPED(no attachment in message) Received: from unknown (HELO OP1-S-EX-A2.cgifederal.com) ([10.130.24.52]) by smtp2.cgifederal.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 25 Sep 2019 17:39:53 -0400 Received: from OP1-S-EX-A4.cgifederal.com (10.130.24.54) by OP1-S-EX-A2.cgifederal.com (10.130.24.52) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 17:39:52 -0400 Received: from OP1-S-EX-C5.cgifederal.com ([169.254.10.214]) by OP1-S-EX-A4.cgifederal.com ([10.130.24.54]) with mapi id 14.03.0408.000; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 17:39:52 -0400 From: "Pressey, Marty G (CGI Federal)" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: NIC Compatibility for 11.2 Thread-Topic: NIC Compatibility for 11.2 Thread-Index: AdVz6JJiw6LyWVVXSG+P7VMv8l9iRQ== Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 21:39:51 +0000 Message-ID: <1BB9A8B635A5E84EBAC902C3A01120D4013AB3B69A@OP1-S-EX-C5.cgifederal.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.128.130.131] x-cgifeddisclaimer: TRUE MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46ds0S6sxTz4bVS X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of marty.pressey@cgifederal.com has no SPF policy when checking 38.27.110.8) smtp.mailfrom=marty.pressey@cgifederal.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.22 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_XOIP(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cgifederal.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.54)[0.538,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; IP_SCORE(0.31)[asn: 174(1.61), country: US(-0.05)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.47)[0.467,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[8.110.27.38.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:174, ipnet:38.27.110.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 21:39:54 -0000 I have a question regarding Ethernet NIC compatibility. According to your c= ompatibility list at https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.2R/hardware.html#e= thernet, there are five (5) different Intel PRO/1000 MT NIC's listed. Howev= er, the 2 we are looking for are not on the list. Since the list is more th= an a year old, I'm wondering if there has been any additional testing to ve= rify compatibility of these NIC's or if you can tell me if FreeBSD will sup= port the use of these NIC's. I've included the two (2) we are using listed = below. The reason for my question is that we are using a 3rd party software produc= t that is using FreeBSD as its initial boot OS. Unfortunately, the vendor c= an't answer my question regarding compatibility. Intel PRO/1000 MT Network Connection Intel PRO/1000 MT Network Connection E1G60 Thanks, Marty Proprietary/confidential information belonging to CGI Federal Inc. or its a= ffiliates may be contained in this message. 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You can find a lot of interesting environmental variables (among other helpful information) in "man 7 ports". :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 25 22:52:05 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93AFC13568E; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 22:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from corvid.alerce.com (corvid.alerce.com [206.125.171.163]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46dtbm4yxsz4fRs; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 22:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from [192.168.42.215] (76-226-160-236.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [76.226.160.236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corvid.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CE31857479; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 15:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: Problem overriding ports with portshaker. From: George Hartzell In-Reply-To: <20190926004936.e32f6d7a.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 15:52:01 -0700 Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-ports Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <23943.45748.104392.96450@alice.local> <23945.3567.44900.631073@alice.local> <20190925041645.GA11443@blogreen.org> <23947.37724.943422.207082@alice.local> <20190926004936.e32f6d7a.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Polytropon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46dtbm4yxsz4fRs X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=alerce.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of hartzell@alerce.com designates 206.125.171.163 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=hartzell@alerce.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-2.70)[ip: (-8.58), ipnet: 206.125.168.0/21(-4.53), asn: 25795(-0.32), country: US(-0.05)]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[alerce.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:206.125.168.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 22:52:05 -0000 Yes, thanks. Very good pointer, and been there. Should have emphasized that I=E2=80=99m new to the poudriere, multiple = trees, portshaker auto-merging world. Ports in general are not a new = thing, but e.g. PORTSDIR doesn=E2=80=99t come up with your ports tree = always lives in /usr/ports=E2=80=A6. ;) Thanks, g. > On Sep 25, 2019, at 3:49 PM, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 09:18:36 -0700, George Hartzell wrote: >> I wasn't aware of PORTSDIR, I'm a long time ports user but this is my >> first foray into not simply using the stock FreeBSD ports tree. >=20 > You can find a lot of interesting environmental variables (among > other helpful information) in "man 7 ports". :-) >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 25 22:58:32 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286E9135AB4 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 22:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46dtlB2f36z4g7M for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2019 22:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.12.35.138]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue012 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MW9zm-1ifCSR2xAo-00Xerm; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 00:58:25 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 00:58:25 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Pressey, Marty G (CGI Federal)" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: NIC Compatibility for 11.2 Message-Id: <20190926005825.edadd0fe.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1BB9A8B635A5E84EBAC902C3A01120D4013AB3B69A@OP1-S-EX-C5.cgifederal.com> References: <1BB9A8B635A5E84EBAC902C3A01120D4013AB3B69A@OP1-S-EX-C5.cgifederal.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:oFceMYR5pgNU3Jym4sqOuazUrTWX+2U1ZgYtR5f8bxXqaIrPD/U CSiVF5VcVHs5hOs1kuevcUyq6X7wJlqx2vp19bcL6L3vt/v4d52pOQgoMzTYy15eyUq7Z0a O8kWQp2fEkxyYQivZ7tkJX8qv/7wzE6iFS3rY8WXYnVFdmVAO9Zk61jMWsuJuNsTS05BnWw Ydnr0ydh2IJyE+bnHlTBg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Pdoiu0azPso=:Y1Zu3BLXCiQKidR335/mOc TmVliBBnD9hsqCv2Vq964HzLVdvSQOl6f+ihTgDPtALDCyRvGTel9VjaFgphnipvRXGeIyEwl LUM2j6FyVnBraWlLunTQqLTC5xiPm99p/G1zlKkt3TVcLrFD7rBsNn1YlgtVT7YR7WBVUMgEd b/L4wN4nxYElx9Ai/rzbv2oJVC24Y8TwAjK91RBtkbVCLOAhULn9y2PsKeA4iUUB8803PA9EA hmhAU7ydvqCzwl7zKelbQdXOO1qE45/BRzm7dTpTn2ZfI1pIHjNNRfwBgMFwTFoe9G74IUrRl +2R1jdRAEg1dJfRY96DWVklCS3dsrLxDAiXcwPTDe/6oaTr3OXMzv4czQGfs+gjBuv3aKYgdH /ASeaaEHeHzmz3LLp0xytHIIP7XF5pT69eLpxRy7Q55d1OnItrTdTGtHZdL/+jVY+vhGrMM8h 85iKbvZ6VXkYT7mQ3/DfUL+Z2iqZzoyPu4+hTlpFvlLkrf48jMOcyQIAXzEWLxCQ1z1yYg5bv 2rSQRdgHwBGacl4pYjkV7HEYYQPx1tGWbqwVPHD/kdwoIEDWxrwfUoEbAcr5IBuzA6zROUwKe a1qGh/2/JgvPFErIDjzMv0zuNTO51KS6EraQZsw3mRyStiSedaOyYAF3AGUfe7krMD1ptkZOd eoTkPtjsYlXBM14I+TupKIoCVdVEaPXudQNf33rTVlKD+jL3BNTr5QKA+35DH3ZSnziuVfUOl ns7pD9+x15teChazBqfCByeCnzVIywHH26QeD9tm19Y9/OvzVAKBe9mbSUR3uS0t8DcdXMm+x aNtYtsIgO8bdofNcXMxHF0j6QFZKlDfGMrES1a91Gze/XSKEQNhcxrhidA5dJewIyURIETGn+ MwYQNaOYKFiEs8AUaW2uSIQF54SaSMWbRg9mHJ0CM= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46dtlB2f36z4g7M X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.187) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.22 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[138.35.12.178.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.68)[0.685,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.90)[0.901,0]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[187.126.227.212.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.24)[ip: (0.45), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.37), asn: 8560(2.11), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 22:58:32 -0000 On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 21:39:51 +0000, Pressey, Marty G (CGI Federal) wrote: > I have a question regarding Ethernet NIC compatibility. > According to your compatibility list at > https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.2R/hardware.html#ethernet, > there are five (5) different Intel PRO/1000 MT NIC's listed. > However, the 2 we are looking for are not on the list. Since > the list is more than a year old, I'm wondering if there has > been any additional testing to verify compatibility of these > NIC's or if you can tell me if FreeBSD will support the use > of these NIC's. I've included the two (2) we are using listed > below. You can always look at the current version of the manual for the corresponding driver, in this case, the "em" driver: https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?em(4) Or on a FreeBSD system: "man 4 em". ;-) It seems that the list is identical. > The reason for my question is that we are using a 3rd party > software product that is using FreeBSD as its initial boot OS. > Unfortunately, the vendor can't answer my question regarding > compatibility. > > Intel PRO/1000 MT Network Connection > Intel PRO/1000 MT Network Connection E1G60 Yes, those are not on the list. However, this doesn't automatically imply that they don't work. If you have the option of "trial & error", test the cards. If they are recognized, the "em" driver gets loaded, and they should just work(TM). If not, return the cards. (Yes, I know, this isn't always possible, but if it is possible for you, give it a try.) I say this because several "PRO/1000 MT" models are listed, so it could be possible that except the naming is a little bit different, you're refering to one of them? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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However, this doesn't automatically > imply that they don't work. If you have the option of "trial & > error", test the cards. If they are recognized, the "em" driver > gets loaded, and they should just work(TM). If not, return the > cards. (Yes, I know, this isn't always possible, but if it is > possible for you, give it a try.) I say this because several > "PRO/1000 MT" models are listed, so it could be possible that > except the naming is a little bit different, you're refering to one > of them? In addition to matching the model id, you may also need to match the specific chip version - which is what actually counts. I have this unconfirmed memory that Intel has been known to use the same model id for multiple chip versions. Doesn't matter for Windows; for FreeBSD ... very much. Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 26 08:59:08 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79B5FF00E for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 08:59:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglist@diamondbox.dk) Received: from mailrelay4-2.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com (mailrelay4-2.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com [46.30.212.3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46f84C1C50z40GH for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 08:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglist@diamondbox.dk) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=diamondbox.dk; s=20140924; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:mime-version:date: message-id:from:references:to:subject:from; bh=ryyexoEg1MK0tPfvPcwSG881i5tK6+4i+RQz0rEM+dA=; b=jIn6pHweBNMFiN/zBpnipuh9Y8RVC3BXqccJ9WZHytMho/jC9/+Qlp3yqgdSmR64nQCn8A/Mfc7+U tIaHSYFRjWLO7+/bzokoOesqDm5H3clCKrZgnyN8mNgIciymyDZx2fhkjTWBj6K1EWoWRKAD770qvH TYw5AsGoDR5X9LCE= X-HalOne-Cookie: 4d2c3aa5ba8ffbc45eeb17d8813922c3cf5e726a X-HalOne-ID: a0f04466-e039-11e9-8286-d0431ea8bb10 Received: from diamond.diamondbox.dk (unknown [213.32.242.19]) by mailrelay4.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com (Halon) with ESMTPSA id a0f04466-e039-11e9-8286-d0431ea8bb10; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 08:42:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: NIC Compatibility for 11.2 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1BB9A8B635A5E84EBAC902C3A01120D4013AB3B69A@OP1-S-EX-C5.cgifederal.com> From: Nikolaj Thygesen Message-ID: <1da737f2-c990-087c-b61d-24b52a1495bb@diamondbox.dk> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 10:42:56 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1BB9A8B635A5E84EBAC902C3A01120D4013AB3B69A@OP1-S-EX-C5.cgifederal.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46f84C1C50z40GH X-Spamd-Bar: ++++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=diamondbox.dk header.s=20140924 header.b=jIn6pHwe; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mailinglist@diamondbox.dk has no SPF policy when checking 46.30.212.3) smtp.mailfrom=mailinglist@diamondbox.dk X-Spamd-Result: default: False [6.66 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(0.00)[diamondbox.dk:s=20140924]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[3.212.30.46.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_XBL(5.00)[19.242.32.213.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.4]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[diamondbox.dk]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.87)[0.873,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[diamondbox.dk:+]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,body]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.212.30.46.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.98)[0.984,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-0.19)[ipnet: 46.30.208.0/21(-0.54), asn: 51468(-0.41), country: DK(-0.02)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:51468, ipnet:46.30.208.0/21, country:DK]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Spam: Yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 08:59:08 -0000 ... this is what I have:     em0: mem 0xdf200000-0xdf21ffff at device 31.6 on pci0 ... and it has been working for years.     N :o) On 9/25/19 11:39 PM, Pressey, Marty G (CGI Federal) wrote: > I have a question regarding Ethernet NIC compatibility. According to your compatibility list at https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.2R/hardware.html#ethernet, there are five (5) different Intel PRO/1000 MT NIC's listed. However, the 2 we are looking for are not on the list. Since the list is more than a year old, I'm wondering if there has been any additional testing to verify compatibility of these NIC's or if you can tell me if FreeBSD will support the use of these NIC's. I've included the two (2) we are using listed below. > > The reason for my question is that we are using a 3rd party software product that is using FreeBSD as its initial boot OS. Unfortunately, the vendor can't answer my question regarding compatibility. > > Intel PRO/1000 MT Network Connection > Intel PRO/1000 MT Network Connection E1G60 > > > Thanks, > Marty > > > Proprietary/confidential information belonging to CGI Federal Inc. or its affiliates may be contained in this message. 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Cause I ran into it again :-( I wonder why no one else has a similar problem. I think my setup is very common. I made some tcpdumps during (very slow) package installation inside the VM.=20 tcpdump -i igb0 | grep pkg tcpdump -i igb0.4030 | grep pkg tcpdump -i bridge0 | grep pkg tcpdump -i tap0 | grep pkg the very long output is here https://pastebin.com/vM1VFziJ . For me it looks like very normal TCP traffic. seqs and acks ... thanks Ole Tue, 5 Feb 2019 15:05:22 +0100 - Ole : > Hello, >=20 > I discovered that virtio-net very slow with FreeBSD 12.0 Host. And > with very slow I mean 16 kBit/s. >=20 > I can't exclude that there is a problem in my setup. But I created two > very similar setups. One with FreeBSD 11.2 and one with 12.0. The > server with 11.2 has no problem. >=20 > Either I do something really wrong or there is a Bug in the > virtio-net. >=20 >=20 > Both Servers are connected to a switch, the IPs of the VMs are in the > vlan 4030. The Bhyve VMs are mangaed by vm-bhyve (master from > github).=20 >=20 > Bridges are created by rc.conf: >=20 > # Vlans > vlans_em0=3D"030" > ifconfig_em0_4030=3D"mtu 1400 up" >=20 > # Bridges > cloned_interfaces=3D"bridge0" > ifconfig_bridge0=3D"addm em0.4030 mtu 1400 up" >=20 > switch definition: >=20 > switch_list=3D"vm-net" > type_vm-net=3D"manual" > bridge_vm-net=3D"bridge0" >=20 > VM config: >=20 > loader=3D"bhyveload" > cpu=3D7 > memory=3D40G > network0_type=3D"virtio-net" > network0_switch=3D"vm-net" > disk0_type=3D"virtio-blk" > disk0_name=3D"disk0" > disk0_dev=3D"sparse-zvol" >=20 >=20 > vm creation: >=20 > vm create -t test-host -i FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-amd64.raw > test-example-com vm start test-example-com >=20 > Network setup (on the VM): >=20 > root@freebsd:~ # ifconfig vtnet0 xx.xx.xx.xx/28 mtu 1400 > root@freebsd:~ # route add default yy.yy.yy.yy >=20 > could someone help me to figure out if this is a Bug, and if yes > where it is? >=20 > Thanks > Ole --Sig_/53kM30TV56uzXdfgI5ZVFK3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEE60BGd7KVfL83NXCUJZaRRqjklFAFAl2Mq4EACgkQJZaRRqjk lFB9cw//XD2CTdNDDBf0UVLiR6YfyW7g7sWKxWg7pPmt+/csvKGuyhkSbb5geB2s 8N68oCam896XVG+jrmms4KBunEQMiJh0NFXfr7bsGKR5DLXIkh1tiZnzWicmL4CE uHpZ0RfZyxw42J+qh1XuPQy5Faz0W4OjkIgIYDSAWTpG/6v2Hen1OVAw0xJ9NQLI AsJXHn9ehc6EXESPNZZ+0VPdX6zY4ptsfBc2Iz8PgGsWKWn58/cYedpu0lU8/abf eOht6DkfjsjaxdK4+Rc8/n7gmMXmau70iaAbRZd+fHd/VikqVZG41kfYPh/69iBz V0J1xrZdoACZVTqVt7V4xGxEnFU2/LCxgpvnWcdY30IuVLnbJpCb9UQSTQgq17Wu Dh8q3mwA7ivy1EcmLalF8aZf+pTOvaMAsHnWbMNSF06hefE2sbbGbPGSzXI/bdKO RNiVfYlB/1kuUWwJOCwf4BvQ1ZwrzNV1eT0fGZcqWiJ/fRS9mCRM6zIrqOaJyzw0 ZviE2Xsx0MJoM25l1HXB4+eejAN3s/KXJDQx/DwhPjKhm/xEEtfGHZuSidd7ia5W VQ7dAEyCTLu2gp0NBa4ZNwfdxhFY+BihIjI9x2erBKkR1AR1a/eF1In4AsRAuaO4 svSDNCPObixOaQ/9kORTb9HPkRDRABCa5cCpEACSGNWANvTXSzo= =h4JO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/53kM30TV56uzXdfgI5ZVFK3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 26 15:12:23 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0DE129AE2 for ; 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Thu, 26 Sep 2019 11:12:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:12:16 +0100 From: tech-lists To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ports and packages installed on one system, how to make pkg only Message-ID: <20190926151216.GB4027@bastion.zyxst.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46fJLt2vrQz4Mml X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=zyxst.net header.s=fm3 header.b=JhCzwnF4; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm3 header.b=YNKPft5L; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tech-lists@zyxst.net designates 64.147.123.21 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tech-lists@zyxst.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.19 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[zyxst.net:s=fm3,messagingengine.com:s=fm3]; 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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Possibly a silly question -: There is a system that has a mix of ports installed via the traditional met= hod (local ports tree) *and* ports installed via pkg. I want the system to use pkg entirely for space and cpu reasons. Will pkg upgrade -f do what I want without having to go through each installed port? In other words, will pkg upgrade -f act upon the ports that have been compiled and installed via the local ports tree?=20 Or would portmaster be a better tool for this purpose? thnaks, --=20 J. --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8n3tWhxW11Ccvv9/s8o7QhFzNAUFAl2M1UgACgkQs8o7QhFz NAUC/xAAhaEj5PcEgnDogdUzWbZ3DZ/8CotmWQDr9zF9tEgQIBoDI1qvkOjGNzvN 7Ahl/tncyFmdbWQO5ogHfB27S2aPbSxx8E/N/fBDQjrKicjWr1TSoPl6Duwl3nnU ZWdpMTqzdrArRIwHUO2MTWgdeLUIpwngstsI3VRtc4pznR2eK5rfnwz6xC/m7maS KLE8qUhafcInLr/QSZCEscK4I75rk5H1pGfvN7j7blEzaaosFxWY3Hb15u3st06s i1+wp4Nq3MdQkIVCPvRygjadz8vXebkXEB7sro8ZMzH0Z69ePmWXfAeolHYpfXFV 9NlRLr2qN58zYtaHL1BDCE8BJDX2B+UVlSGUrE0RjhxEdqSYIFSy/WK65v5Ke7QT oJFs2cVyv2FGUOn/Agt9HghNntHxu+vXTHqqRyTBwbM/fUDEPPcldHF6tJxaSfjY Zy8gtVpkSA7hdudtQsFyfgEyg6LYko2hXYJRc0IVtCUROMwZ8R5TyIrlp6MvJund vrp2KeJE0khxhE8NZsjaGxYZ6FbOzusqD7o7/UQbgjgvLH8pjUufOkOEN+TDjJzD h9NageHZ1Z6hxToDpXk96hV07LRmiJ1pCZLrYE2ZifGnLE9wfTE8Htfl6JN1G7QF mf+YEx8tDqHe+moPLycoRN2Qjl4EBo2/4r4B+/6HeU6crOzwKSA= =A0rC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 26 15:59:44 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3C812B511 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 15:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46fKPX4BKXz4RWj for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 15:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: matthew/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 563E915505 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 15:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.212.184.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 77EE82162 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 15:59:42 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=FreeBSD.org Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/77EE82162; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: ports and packages installed on one system, how to make pkg only To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190926151216.GB4027@bastion.zyxst.net> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:59:27 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190926151216.GB4027@bastion.zyxst.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 15:59:44 -0000 On 26/09/2019 16:12, tech-lists wrote: > Possibly a silly question -: > > There is a system that has a mix of ports installed via the traditional > method > (local ports tree) *and* ports installed via pkg. > > I want the system to use pkg entirely for space and cpu reasons. > > Will pkg upgrade -f do what I want without having to go through each > installed port? In other words, will pkg upgrade -f act upon the ports that > have been compiled and installed via the local ports tree? > Or would portmaster be a better tool for this purpose? A pkg is what you get from compiling a port. Once the port is installed it's a pkg and there's no functional difference from a pkg installed from one of the package repositories. Or, in other words, just update your machine from the pkg repos. It will replace anything that's out of date, no problem. There's no particular need to force an update on all packages -- if it's already there and working OK, then my inclination would be to leave it be. 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Thu, 26 Sep 2019 12:29:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 17:29:27 +0100 From: tech-lists To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports and packages installed on one system, how to make pkg only Message-ID: <20190926162927.GC4027@bastion.zyxst.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190926151216.GB4027@bastion.zyxst.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="O5XBE6gyVG5Rl6Rj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46fL3y1vyFz4V6l X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=zyxst.net header.s=fm3 header.b=j5rq0A65; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm3 header.b=xpmx8kcg; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tech-lists@zyxst.net designates 64.147.123.24 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tech-lists@zyxst.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.18 / 15.00]; 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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Matthew, On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:59:27PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >A pkg is what you get from compiling a port. Once the port is installed >it's a pkg and there's no functional difference from a pkg installed >from one of the package repositories. > >Or, in other words, just update your machine from the pkg repos. It >will replace anything that's out of date, no problem. There's no >particular need to force an update on all packages -- if it's already >there and working OK, then my inclination would be to leave it be. What's of particular concern for me is that the machine had this in its /etc/make.conf when it was building it's own ports: DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=3Dpython=3D2.7 I've since removed it. Since then, the machine has been brought to 12R-p10 and I've made a poudrie= re instance for it on different hardware which has nothing special in its own= =20 make.conf. I fed it a ports list obtained on the client through=20 *portmaster --list-origins | sort -u | tee portslist.txt*, transferred that= to poudriere and it built the ports, and all the flavoured python ones were py= 36-* So, if I *pkg upgrade -f* on the client (which now knows to use my poudriere instance), would it be reasonable for me to expect all py27* to be upgraded= =20 to py36*, without stuff breaking? thanks, --=20 J. --O5XBE6gyVG5Rl6Rj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8n3tWhxW11Ccvv9/s8o7QhFzNAUFAl2M510ACgkQs8o7QhFz NAVspxAAn1Q8X/qD1qj02n6/2WV/kVHlPV7eTgtoAcwevCRbdF1IsN5bFsDLNRsh UE+5mFzxBGRqF45ZsXcWpbdxVptry2xc6SXPfPxuzrDR80ZcozbTH4JRYceLWFZt /kZX57P0Ahigbdv61/wqg0ll7zAlDppRUUZUdfIOfE+2tafCMFRF2AFfSQJVTa3J j7/PWr5PbYeolZgPc8+cL3pCY4V0xwiXQD3V+CRufpkMvCnQA1oSlHLLbkCeCrKq G+aCRRH3EJFSOaXnAh4x8Cvn7Nzkmf+Ris9J1ESV4odomvvHYBAcOCyPgeDRwzAd 5097UQjzPoaaoW7wN8JobGBHZU7osiXTo4cTvAOxS//5Ha726RhV7p+/FX4f+dtV F4k3rdkP/NJaomvI/j7yAmvP0bJx8p6U9lDnrd0imCfQIKbJAjuxKtpj5RUrClFq q75O2gpX0RvxaskCYVRnB/OdZPLMFkOGl1hEhTQxGMdRhreorUsOZBhyPaMY3/i2 I36F8CXr6iKSxjQKcaPRwqlZfWnjLEDx2NMi44pl1NEki+Lnm3TYu3QZn8bQhZvm w/CvWFIjtHO1cZWDfcwYTZgx8FGyUHIwdJzfeavtT8AlNgeQNdFj00ZxsO78ggqs o5/ZPf4Cv17ZdRxJcOYuYtIMXWxKFWlQcU3MFfnGTzIImPCx8C0= =zSYb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --O5XBE6gyVG5Rl6Rj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 26 17:00:32 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 261D812D2C5 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 17:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.32]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx32.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46fLlg28LBz4XTJ for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 17:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca (localhost [127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B37A1ABCA for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 12:51:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from mx32.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.32.1]) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (mx32.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.32.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vRGxKN_RUWcv for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 12:50:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (webmail.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.106]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx32.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C19DC1ABC1 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 12:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 13:00:24 -0400 Message-ID: <96b84667d0a2d19650183b09504e319c.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 13:00:24 -0400 Subject: Strange sha256 results From: "James B. 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Can anyone explain what is causing this? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 26 17:16:58 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF6212DC63 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 17:16:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46fM6d3PRFz4Ykm for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 17:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BD8954E606 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 12:16:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: ports and packages installed on one system, how to make pkg only To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190926151216.GB4027@bastion.zyxst.net> <20190926162927.GC4027@bastion.zyxst.net> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 12:16:56 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190926162927.GC4027@bastion.zyxst.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46fM6d3PRFz4Ykm X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.81 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.91)[-0.909,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.989,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-0.01)[country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[70.20.135.128.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 17:16:58 -0000 On 2019-09-26 11:29, tech-lists wrote: > Hello Matthew, > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:59:27PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> A pkg is what you get from compiling a port.  Once the port is installed >> it's a pkg and there's no functional difference from a pkg installed >> from one of the package repositories. Some of the ports are not in prebuilt pkg repository (maia will be the one I can name). >> >> Or, in other words, just update your machine from the pkg repos. except for ports that are not in pkg repository. Sometimes they have to be rebuilt, if the dependency changes (to the level of braking things). >>  It >> will replace anything that's out of date, no problem.  There's no >> particular need to force an update on all packages -- if it's already >> there and working OK, then my inclination would be to leave it be. > > What's of particular concern for me is that the machine had this in its > /etc/make.conf when it was building it's own ports: > > DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=python=2.7 > > I've since removed it. > > Since then, the machine has been brought to 12R-p10 and I've made a > poudriere Great, and that is my way too to deal with whatever needs configuration different from what pkg is built with (apache with LDAP authentication and mailman with postfix instead of sendmail can be examples). Valeri > instance for it on different hardware which has nothing special in its > own make.conf. I fed it a ports list obtained on the client through > *portmaster --list-origins | sort -u | tee portslist.txt*, transferred > that to > poudriere and it built the ports, and all the flavoured python ones were > py36-* > > So, if I *pkg upgrade -f* on the client (which now knows to use my > poudriere > instance), would it be reasonable for me to expect all py27* to be > upgraded to py36*, without stuff breaking? > > thanks, -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 26 18:42:10 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30EF131154 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 18:42:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46fP0x1bW2z3KHl for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 18:42:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1569523329; x=1572115329; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=mZPPiAlJpJSjBYUeris6WU8U9VVZ5PXG2VlyMo5fozc=; b=RtohyzMWmz/8Pusx+aKr2ksChssHyWVrM1k7G06rZXhoGPqA+HwCYOPFlQKjDzJ2gVJDmKELB4UfCFbfWKuGQwtKAGmB9Oi2AhSUfYTsDc/Z/o1tKx/a7o2i9M3ahBoJRj8aqr8sN38lyG3kuDAGM54NLXnKE+WaHrmeiG91Ua0= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xYzMwMDAwMDE5ZjJkNTguZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r3.us-west-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r3.us-west-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.190.3]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 26 Sep 2019 14:42:05 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r3.us-west-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 26 Sep 2019 14:42:03 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1iDYiH-000Amo-Fj; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 19:42:01 +0100 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 19:42:01 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: "James B. 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and packages installed on one system, how to make pkg only References: <20190926151216.GB4027@bastion.zyxst.net> <20190926162927.GC4027@bastion.zyxst.net> In-Reply-To: <20190926162927.GC4027@bastion.zyxst.net> --ZGAwZcxewo70OM59vp8IG8bXiYUQarKLb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 26/09/2019 17:29, tech-lists wrote: > Hello Matthew, >=20 > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:59:27PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >=20 >> A pkg is what you get from compiling a port.=A0 Once the port is insta= lled >> it's a pkg and there's no functional difference from a pkg installed >> from one of the package repositories. >> >> Or, in other words, just update your machine from the pkg repos.=A0 It= >> will replace anything that's out of date, no problem.=A0 There's no >> particular need to force an update on all packages -- if it's already >> there and working OK, then my inclination would be to leave it be. >=20 > What's of particular concern for me is that the machine had this in its= > /etc/make.conf when it was building it's own ports: >=20 > DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=3Dpython=3D2.7 >=20 > I've since removed it. >=20 > Since then, the machine has been brought to 12R-p10 and I've made a > poudriere > instance for it on different hardware which has nothing special in its > own make.conf. I fed it a ports list obtained on the client through > *portmaster --list-origins | sort -u | tee portslist.txt*, transferred > that to > poudriere and it built the ports, and all the flavoured python ones wer= e > py36-* >=20 > So, if I *pkg upgrade -f* on the client (which now knows to use my > poudriere > instance), would it be reasonable for me to expect all py27* to be > upgraded to py36*, without stuff breaking? >=20 > thanks, Actually, you'll probably not see everything upgrade completely smoothly.= The generic repos build both python-2.7 and python-3.6 flavours of python ports, so in that case many pkgs would just upgrade to the latest available for the py27 flavour. However, since you've built your own repo with only the py36 flavours, you might see two possible outcomes: i) Something else you have installed now has a python-3.6 dependency, so all of those dependent python-3.6 ports get installed alongside the existing python-2.7 equivalents. ii) pkg can't find a newer version of your python-2.7 packages so just leaves what you already have installed in place. In theory everything should still work, either as python-2.7 or python-3.6, but in practice it is distinctly possible that you'll run into some turbulence. In this case you can use eg. pkg version -vRL=3D to list all packages you have installed that aren't in your repo, and you should be able to delete any py27 packages from that list, and replace them with py36 equivalents. Also, if there are any other packages locally installed but not in your repo, you can simply add them, or delete them if nothing now has them as a dependency (pkg autoremove helps here) or else work out what options have changed between your two setups and sort out the inconsistencies that way. Converting everything wholesale from py27 to py36 will /probably/ just work, but no guarantees. As ever, test early and test often. Cheers, Matthew --ZGAwZcxewo70OM59vp8IG8bXiYUQarKLb-- --duySmOf10y1nOqLggw4DO6hUqwv0M3wxM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEEGfFU7L8RLlBUTj8wAFE/EOCp5OcFAl2NCIxfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDE5 RjE1NEVDQkYxMTJFNTA1NDRFM0YzMDAwNTEzRjEwRTBBOUU0RTcACgkQAFE/EOCp 5OfScQ/+Kf4YPzfwsTs22eTHCtARCt4yBQyw5Yc7a+RZXcDnNRMuEZvA/tApIfK6 MJcGhknMseFStnGFQHkh7o+7v0C7JA2DPz53GJQupCUnGXNba6PVC2+zx5e1NsVQ 3TdiSTFEYT5Rlhb+/kVZZGouVy6MD0acqedErG6F4UQXNNzNrRUdR4nwl5S6x9wZ 9nQkc1T6n042GKUTFUjZu5C7bM1u9Z4xETVAuKlfShd4o/G7pbzifM+se8FRoEPO ivR85H+XWwXg6qd9H23BsUHdMwZMkzRYiCe1yNDQRn0L/6f9wgqLmaRpqOrYTXcq dbXCDg0oSosb+Ggi8ANLjwbIcTkFtcJX+6jULsxCPbfacN5lNeS8nG/JvPDsdipp 7/Rh13FC9PG+V6xj0WrRWa313tohUKxc7tqq1gWZRJSpwuUnIhv5D0H7fkR7EJlN 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micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HuWAjSKXNOYE3OroblU5lqXClHIEX3VZE" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 18:53:44 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --HuWAjSKXNOYE3OroblU5lqXClHIEX3VZE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="prK8WbjVycQPHRcxzto8viFqefBcgxyIQ"; protected-headers="v1" From: Matthew Seaman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: ports and packages installed on one system, how to make pkg only References: <20190926151216.GB4027@bastion.zyxst.net> <20190926162927.GC4027@bastion.zyxst.net> In-Reply-To: --prK8WbjVycQPHRcxzto8viFqefBcgxyIQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 26/09/2019 18:16, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >=20 >=20 > On 2019-09-26 11:29, tech-lists wrote: >> Hello Matthew, >> >> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:59:27PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> >>> A pkg is what you get from compiling a port.=A0 Once the port is inst= alled >>> it's a pkg and there's no functional difference from a pkg installed >>> from one of the package repositories. >=20 > Some of the ports are not in prebuilt pkg repository (maia will be the > one I can name). The OP has his own poudriere setup: he can build whatever he wants in it.= >>> >>> Or, in other words, just update your machine from the pkg repos. >=20 > except for ports that are not in pkg repository. Sometimes they have to= > be rebuilt, if the dependency changes (to the level of braking things).= Anything missing can just be added to the list of what poudriere will bui= ld. 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There are an documentation ? What the best way ? Best Regard, White Wolf. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 27 09:07:48 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD6BFBEFA for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 09:07:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic305-19.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic305-19.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.177.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46fmCk67rQz4Y7h for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 09:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: Fk75ucQVM1mP4nvObCRn_FRbzbruQSHcD6d9aA1LJ9nIWmy9aAZsfVEeNqGgWK2 1wmNyCwi5urZjxTlf18k7ZrrKuXeq0Tk0WEjeaFEPyZbngYcJXc5Z9Vzwm0YXJ92R0z_qqijRm78 NUEsWVdrXDEiiAtv664DT7Ok873b9qg3PL8fOrBmzcIr7RkxDNbnFoIfp.by92.FnMZYikW7Wqkt uTiHuB5znmHoVwDxAdyxzJG2EwPu5SjLidNjWLvEsHzMAbbkfAxbMGxTciQCKrv8.j_DnO5J8uId .LZ2wBc6Yl061UJXML34zr0gwxi7MX8B.Ok34lTQOfmXa9T2JLOJJ6nIkswjpz6oxcynhF_3sp7D wn7spf3UwUmWxwZVwHEXpl2RIX8V7mk3chbvVBGG6GvyTUqCG4q.3hW5mHkpd2QXjKjeUyWD_.q2 b6Txhsh.lfJ9OlFWqDHDTjTiqbCviPWobfwVfovA7fPeNgGe4WMfpbgZ3ivyatTkla_XLLmFra5Q wQgfnnHX5kDyBgpwFGBWQZDCKd8LG66z1M8UqGWG2TRFs.9vsVJl9DWRfmrXjoH2LyJLO9vTa2iz ta6fay5WNOrgGO9tylgbPIDBA8zCfe6vYHW5R_mSbfYAIB92Npn2u2A7sbTUhjhhP7.LtolBXv2B yXwI9Lrg2w7GLvqJ.L0s.vTh4hMAQex6ZHZj.1.LfKBofxYtkdFZ.1vWRpLN06V6geawICcMvWG7 .QuhdIBlrFZEC60ts0cGe1Q0u4Q2bU7S2aTP6Pd.HDGtnitRT.UMd9RiwIGL.y3Fgo8JHePCUldo D1sINvk0.smM9rZn9Sb434lkJ1NMai.iEBQCgexIn8_mG_K.xCVyBiFYnSbkmm0sc.pXIVmFEhI4 ZN5WxSEd1WoMhjxIVsvTKv3DwK6Vu1FGAo1GuD0Zfr6SMwE8oUA..npI1sXqWc8NG.ftJTaNpHJ5 ENRL_5dO7.qWNUHDHRmUOhs0PKy40nHC6rccNyqFteKHrzJSaEDHl6_sjsU6SD_sUZ0ARNtUc6vq d9BSBw_rFTcbnyZCh1UApK3aRQYrdOLeFENKHPjpjvmX1VN.q3jEbSV_dLzRlOGLAdzvbVB58jXH fpe3WTsgsPa0kdBYikvo4VMyrKVL0hmNx2RaQkIThU5h1EHqmIlNq1tm9.Qxo6QI7gJraVja2wYk pmk95wkxzdRqv0KvKR2_6rdPMuYY_SpLK0TipoX2QsUjAo798xBCFieC4wn.hnAMoUdnxovUUQUA jw52G7fM3WMg1iU85UolPdxRQaMCRomGAS0TazPjkJ67ZZW54TUxfg.j_cg-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic305.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 09:07:44 +0000 Received: by smtp425.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 2db76d1e822d92bfc5b16dbb204ce083; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 09:07:43 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 11:07:41 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How Backup My 13-Current ? Message-ID: <20190927110741.04c04304@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <8dcb5dbfa700076d6d2c0744f95dae3f3c0d3ab1.camel@ovh.fr> References: <8dcb5dbfa700076d6d2c0744f95dae3f3c0d3ab1.camel@ovh.fr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46fmCk67rQz4Y7h X-Spamd-Bar: ++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.43 / 15.00]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (6.12), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.17), asn: 34010(1.72), country: GB(-0.08)]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.99)[0.986,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.93)[0.933,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[81.177.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[81.177.238.77.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 09:07:48 -0000 On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 11:00:53 +0200, White-Wolf wrote: >how can i backup my FreeBSD for not redo my work if it's crash ? > >There are an documentation ? https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/backup-basics.html --=20 =E2=80=9CAwards are merely the badges of mediocrity.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=95 Charles Ives From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 27 09:08:02 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C02FBF2A for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 09:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from white-wolf@ovh.fr) Received: from mo29.mail-out.ovh.net (mo29.mail-out.ovh.net [178.32.228.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46fmD12NM1z4Y9x for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 09:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from white-wolf@ovh.fr) Received: from he8.mail.ovh.net (he8.mail.ovh.net [5.135.57.187]) by mo29.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F23466B1 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 11:08:00 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ovh.fr; s=hostedemail; t=1569575280; bh=6VGNVDoRgMw3hpYwfcPx6/I2/PIohGxAYrqFtmrZa68=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:From; b=ywRzbAdaYEwqo2T8vLffFfsAivg+Si2epusoGDOqMZcDEKqDznpcKHScWWu6/M9Ao LQHcA7Q34rggcgYLH7KoG/VFcJIp9adV4h3mhJGfQo6vWpkMgdxmB1VrwcaeF3Ov33 wAXRzyo77u61NBXx8tyuwslcWXOQxdKIo2MDe0Rk= Received: from FreeBSD (unknown [92.95.141.83]) by he8.mail.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3C657831742 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 11:08:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4ea0f1a8ba005918828f0df64201cedf3cdd6cb7.camel@ovh.fr> Subject: Where justifying the Stabble version ? 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Witch difference between Stable an Release ? Take Care, White Wolf. 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On Fri, 2019-09-27 at 11:07 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 11:00:53 +0200, White-Wolf wrote: > > how can i backup my FreeBSD for not redo my work if it's crash ? > > > > There are an documentation ? > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/backup-basics.html > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 27 10:24:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73996FE0D4 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 10:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46fnwD3rY7z4f4K for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 10:24:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B2A66ED for ; 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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 07:50:52PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: >In this case you can use eg. > > pkg version -vRL=3D THIS ^^^^^ was very very helpful and gave me exactly the info needed to fix the issue. 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A system crash usually doesn't require you to retrieve a backup. But having a backup is always a good idea. The common way to do this on FreeBSD (and UNIX in general) is to use dump and restore. Dump to an external disk, usually initiated from a live system (or single-user mode - something where the disk will not be written to), and if you need, restore from that backup in a similar way (here a live system is highly suggested). > There are an documentation ? I recommend this summary (with examples) by Warren Block: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html You should also note the corresponding chapter in The FreeBSD Handbook: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/backup-basics.html > What the best way ? There is only one definite answer: It depends. :-) Next to classic dump and restore, there is file-oriented backup. Tools to do this are tar, rsync, or cpdup, just to name a few. And finally, there's the 1:1 method with dd, also called "cloning" where a complete disk (or partition) is written, with no aspects of files. What _you_ need depends on what kind of problem you want to solve, which in turn depends on what kind of problem you are expecting. There is no "one size fits all eierlegende Wollmilchsau" for this particular consideration. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 27 11:31:51 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C0BFF347 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 11:31:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46fqPy4PfNz3D2w for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 11:31:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.3.117]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N0Fh1-1hzZFW2GF5-00xGZv; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 13:31:45 +0200 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 13:31:43 +0200 From: Polytropon To: White-Wolf Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Where justifying the Stabble version ? 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You can compare it with a process where software is "refined": Development takes place in -CURRENT or -HEAD. This is experimental, sometimes crashes, sometimes won't even boot. Features can be added or removed. This is achieved by obtaining the most current sources, compiling them, and installing. Developers typically use this branch. Things that are found as stable will result in a snapshot in the -STABLE branch. THe word "stable" means that the ABI is stable across the whole branch. This also is done via source code. >From -STABLE, further things are made ready for realease, usually through -ALPHA, -BETA, -RC (release candidate), -PRERELEASE, and finally -RELEASE. This is what you find on installation media. Even though you can use the source code, using binary install methods is the typical way here. To allow -RELEASE installs to receive patches, freebsd-update can be used to add them in a binary way, i. e., without compining, also known as installing from source. A name of -RELEASE-pX (where X is the patchlevel number) indicates such an installation. The ports collection - 3rd party software that is not part of the FreeBSD OS - is independent. There is one tree, and it can be used to install the current (!) version of software available on -CURRENT, -STABLE, -RELEASE-pX, or -RELEASE (unpatched). This is of course simplified, but basically, that's what makes the difference between -RELEASE and -STABLE. You can find more information here (which also explains for whom a certain branch is primarily intended): https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html https://www.freebsd.org/releng/ -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, If I'm building ports on a poudriere and the jail I'm building for has say Host CPU: btver1 and the host running poudriere is Host CPU: sandybridge, is there any benefit or advantage in defining CPUTYPE?=3D in the jail's make.c= onf? If yes, which programs does it benefit? 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Notez que ce courrier a =C3=A9t=C3=A9 envoy=C3=A9 =C3=A0 questions@freebsd.= org http://gamenationpublishing.com/unsubscribe/4ad241a13b351e55c70cb14ddeddf80= 7/62e48b9bb52f82ada8125da0076b8bbe From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 27 18:09:54 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B9012913D for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 18:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46g0FF51Z5z4725 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 18:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2109F5A2E7; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 18:09:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x8RI9pKo034005; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 14:09:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x8RI9pXA034002; Fri, 27 Sep 2019 14:09:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 14:09:51 -0400 (EDT) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: tech-lists cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports and packages installed on one system, how to make pkg only In-Reply-To: <20190926151216.GB4027@bastion.zyxst.net> Message-ID: References: <20190926151216.GB4027@bastion.zyxst.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46g0FF51Z5z4725 X-Spamd-Bar: +++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of doug@fledge.watson.org has no SPF policy when checking 204.107.128.30) smtp.mailfrom=doug@fledge.watson.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [5.02 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[doug@safeport.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[watson.org]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.88)[0.884,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[30.128.107.204.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.992,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11288, ipnet:204.107.128.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(2.14)[ip: (5.69), ipnet: 204.107.128.0/24(2.85), asn: 11288(2.22), country: US(-0.05)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 18:09:54 -0000 On Thu, 26 Sep 2019, tech-lists wrote: > Hi, > > Possibly a silly question -: > > There is a system that has a mix of ports installed via the traditional method > (local ports tree) *and* ports installed via pkg. > > I want the system to use pkg entirely for space and cpu reasons. > > Will pkg upgrade -f do what I want without having to go through each installed > port? In other words, will pkg upgrade -f act upon the ports that have been > compiled and installed via the local ports tree? Or would portmaster be a > better tool for this purpose? I hesitate to chime in because you have been keeping advice from the expert in this. I will however share my experience. Since pkg I have stop using postmaster or any of the port managers other than poudriere. For my work stations I use pkg for everything except where non-pkg options are required/wanted. This needs to be done with care but there are enough controls to mostly avoid dependency conflicts. The only issues I have encountered center around mozilla and xfce. These seem to be largely solved by the port maintainers by FBSD 11. I am writing this on a 10.3 that I do not have time to update. I only thing I would like that I can not do is to install thunderbird. pkg help [command] and google are you friends. We run a number of servers and use poudriere for those. Out initial build probably got done over the weekend. If they had used poudriere in Jurassic park the sign on the mirrow would have said, this program is easier to use than it looks like. Even with that I forgot to build trafshow so I just used pkg to install it on the server where I needed it. 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Sat, 28 Sep 2019 08:16:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 13:16:24 +0100 From: tech-lists To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make.conf for a poudriere jail and CPUTYPE Message-ID: <20190928121624.GC49516@bastion.zyxst.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190927113336.GB49516@bastion.zyxst.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HG+GLK89HZ1zG0kk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190927113336.GB49516@bastion.zyxst.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46gSM05FRMz49j6 X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=zyxst.net header.s=fm3 header.b=TYp+4Kz/; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm3 header.b=iyJ0voV/; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tech-lists@zyxst.net designates 66.111.4.27 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tech-lists@zyxst.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.18 / 15.00]; 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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 12:33:36PM +0100, tech-lists wrote: >Hi, > >If I'm building ports on a poudriere and the jail I'm building for has say >Host CPU: btver1 and the host running poudriere is Host CPU: sandybridge, = is >there any benefit or advantage in defining CPUTYPE?=3D in the jail's make.= conf? > >If yes, which programs does it benefit? I guess maybe openssl thought I'd experiment. Seems setting CPUTYPE?=3Dbtver1 causes some ports to fail at the configure or build stage. python36 and lzo2 for example. 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RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(0.05)[ip: (-0.44), ipnet: 212.227.0.0/16(-1.37), asn: 8560(2.07), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 13:06:43 -0000 On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 13:16:24 +0100, tech-lists wrote: > thought I'd experiment. Seems setting CPUTYPE?=btver1 causes some ports to > fail at the configure or build stage. python36 and lzo2 for example. Unsure > why that should be (or where to ask???) Some ports are restricted in a way that they can only be built for specific architectures. Not everything is "cross-platform compatible". :-) For example, some ports will only work on i386 and amd64 because they contain assembly code that is only supported on those two architectures, and _not_ on, let's say, arm or ppc. Reference: https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ For https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo I'd say the best list to ask specific questions probably is the freebsd-ports mailing list. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Sat, 28 Sep 2019 09:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 14:35:52 +0100 From: tech-lists To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make.conf for a poudriere jail and CPUTYPE Message-ID: <20190928133552.GD49516@bastion.zyxst.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20190927113336.GB49516@bastion.zyxst.net> <20190928121624.GC49516@bastion.zyxst.net> <20190928150629.914bf447.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GpGaEY17fSl8rd50" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190928150629.914bf447.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46gV6h1jsQz4Dfn X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=zyxst.net header.s=fm3 header.b=XstzqXy5; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm3 header.b=AB8Cm83H; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tech-lists@zyxst.net designates 66.111.4.29 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tech-lists@zyxst.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.18 / 15.00]; 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charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 03:06:29PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 13:16:24 +0100, tech-lists wrote: >> thought I'd experiment. Seems setting CPUTYPE?=3Dbtver1 causes some port= s to >> fail at the configure or build stage. python36 and lzo2 for example. Uns= ure >> why that should be (or where to ask???) > >Some ports are restricted in a way that they can only be built >for specific architectures. Not everything is "cross-platform >compatible". :-) For example, some ports will only work on i386 >and amd64 because they contain assembly code that is only supported >on those two architectures, and _not_ on, let's say, arm or ppc. > >Reference: https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ > >For https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo I'd say the best >list to ask specific questions probably is the freebsd-ports >mailing list. OK I'll do that. I was wondering if it needed to go in -toolchain as btver1 and sandybridge are the same arch (amd64) just different cpus. 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FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 18:58:15 -0000 RE: " as btver1 and sandybridge are the same arch (amd64) just different cpus " I'm confused here: " *Sandy Bridge* is the codename for the microarchitecture used in the "second generation" of the Intel Core processors (Core i7, i5, i3) " " AMD Bobcat CPU (btver1)" " =E2=80=98btver1=E2=80=99 CPUs based on AMD Family 14h cores with x86-64 i= nstruction set support." " btver1 is a SSSE3/SSE4a only CPU - it doesn't have AVX and doesn't support XSAVE." On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 8:36 AM tech-lists wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 03:06:29PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > >On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 13:16:24 +0100, tech-lists wrote: > >> thought I'd experiment. Seems setting CPUTYPE?=3Dbtver1 causes some po= rts > to > >> fail at the configure or build stage. python36 and lzo2 for example. > Unsure > >> why that should be (or where to ask???) > > > >Some ports are restricted in a way that they can only be built > >for specific architectures. Not everything is "cross-platform > >compatible". :-) For example, some ports will only work on i386 > >and amd64 because they contain assembly code that is only supported > >on those two architectures, and _not_ on, let's say, arm or ppc. > > > >Reference: https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ > > > >For https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo I'd say the best > >list to ask specific questions probably is the freebsd-ports > >mailing list. > > OK I'll do that. I was wondering if it needed to go in -toolchain as btve= r1 > and sandybridge are the same arch (amd64) just different cpus. What do yo= u > think? > > thanks, > -- > J. >