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Fri, 23 Oct 2020 03:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ota@j.email.ne.jp) Received: from mail01.asahi-net.or.jp (mail01.asahi-net.or.jp [202.224.55.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CHV831Jn5z4nsZ for ; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 03:29:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ota@j.email.ne.jp) Received: from rv515.advok.com (cpe-184-152-96-96.nj.res.rr.com [184.152.96.96]) (Authenticated sender: NR2Y-OOT) by mail01.asahi-net.or.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0F8523D6 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 12:29:02 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 23:27:54 -0400 From: Yoshihiro Ota To: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20201022232754.853553fffa0494a0fc33aaa8@j.email.ne.jp> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i386-portbld-freebsd12.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4CHV831Jn5z4nsZ X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ota@j.email.ne.jp designates 202.224.55.13 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ota@j.email.ne.jp X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.31 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.27)[0.266]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.85)[-0.855]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[184.152.96.96:received]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[email.ne.jp]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:202.224.55.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.92)[-0.919]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:4685, ipnet:202.224.32.0/19, country:JP]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-users-jp]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[202.224.55.13:from] Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96645] =?iso-2022-jp?b?c2VhbW9ua2V5IBskQiQsPkMkNSRsJEY/b0osJEg3UCRBGyhC?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?GyRCJF4kOSQsGyhC?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 03:29:08 -0000 こんにちは、太田です。 FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE が間近です。 seamonkey が ports から消されて随分と経ちます。 私は firefox の UI があまり合わなくて、seamonkey を使い続けています。 seamonkey を愛用の方はいますでしょうか。 愛用の方はどの様に保持していらっしゃいますでしょうか。 私は 12.1-RELEASE の時は、消される前の ports から seamonkey を作り直しました。 半年くらい前に、今一度 2.49.5 を手元で何とか更新しました。 12.2-RELEASE に併せて、seamonkey も最新版に更新と思ったのですが、 思ったよりも手間が掛かってしまって億劫になってしまいました。 そこで、pkg でその他を更新した後に、seamoneky が使う動的ライブラリだけを取り戻す事にしました。 最近は NetBSD の pkgsrc で seamonkey だけを入れたら更新も楽なのか試してみようと 思い始めています。 ports から消えてしまうと色々と手間が掛かるので他の人がどの様にしているのかが 気になって投稿しました。 太田 From owner-freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org Fri Oct 23 10:41:13 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-users-jp@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56591442E0A for ; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 10:41:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kiri@truefc.org) Received: from kx.truefc.org (1.212.52.36.ap.yournet.ne.jp [36.52.212.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp", Issuer "smtp" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CHgkc0qL8z3yBR for ; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 10:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kiri@truefc.org) Received: from kx.truefc.org (kx.truefc.org [36.52.212.1]) by kx.truefc.org (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 09NAf2pt093065; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 19:41:02 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from kiri@kx.truefc.org) Message-Id: <202010231041.09NAf2pt093065@kx.truefc.org> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 19:41:02 +0900 From: KIRIYAMA Kazuhiko To: Yoshihiro Ota Cc: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20201022232754.853553fffa0494a0fc33aaa8@j.email.ne.jp> References: <20201022232754.853553fffa0494a0fc33aaa8@j.email.ne.jp> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL/10.8 MULE XEmacs/21.4 (patch 24) (Standard C) (amd64--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4CHgkc0qL8z3yBR X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kiri@truefc.org has no SPF policy when checking 36.52.212.1) smtp.mailfrom=kiri@truefc.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.09 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[kiri]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.64)[-0.640]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[truefc.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.57)[0.566]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.932]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:10013, ipnet:36.52.208.0/21, country:JP]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-users-jp]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[] Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96646] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?b?c2VhbW9ua2V5IBskQiQsPkMkNSRsJEY/b0osJEgbKEI=?= =?iso-2022-jp?b?GyRCN1AkQSReJDkkLBsoQg==?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 10:41:13 -0000 On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 12:27:54 +0900, Yoshihiro Ota wrote: > > こんにちは、太田です。 > > FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE が間近です。 > seamonkey が ports から消されて随分と経ちます。 > 私は firefox の UI があまり合わなくて、seamonkey を使い続けています。 > > seamonkey を愛用の方はいますでしょうか。 > 愛用の方はどの様に保持していらっしゃいますでしょうか。 > > 私は 12.1-RELEASE の時は、消される前の ports から seamonkey を作り直しました。 > 半年くらい前に、今一度 2.49.5 を手元で何とか更新しました。 > > 12.2-RELEASE に併せて、seamonkey も最新版に更新と思ったのですが、 > 思ったよりも手間が掛かってしまって億劫になってしまいました。 > そこで、pkg でその他を更新した後に、seamoneky が使う動的ライブラリだけを取り戻す事にしました。 > > 最近は NetBSD の pkgsrc で seamonkey だけを入れたら更新も楽なのか試してみようと > 思い始めています。 > > > ports から消えてしまうと色々と手間が掛かるので他の人がどの様にしているのかが > 気になって投稿しました。 基本的に全て github に入れてます [1]．時間があれば bugzilla に投稿しますが，最近のコミッターは保守的な人が多く，ちょっと でも ports-commiter の規範に反するコードを書くとリジェクトさ れますです ;-) [1] https://github.com/TrueFC/ports --- きりやま