From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 15 20:01:14 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E36246F6B for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 20:01:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic314-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic314-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.177.146]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48Kh2d2VKYz3JQG for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 20:01:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: KpIfza4VM1mxtIoRsS2XY0YWIkD1VWtpfP_zjsp2pON.ajjyEoUhQX7ScOHdZPT Wa_ho8wzZPgblDhP_JoRuCkjJERrkY6Z0aqn_8rD_DKBxM7kewQJFGHcL3Uc6rTyylOt0KpWepsm 0OEuAuHkd5VXcF06WrGmoe_fhYBLNBZkyx7u7UUl1qU4TJqr5_HAnEyDssnPhXTF5Mr6KAOz5Ipg 2Z6eKzq5pR.9TAobjzgX2NSwMCxTsdmRGdvxiXmUQoHf9wJpEH.Y9mK8RGrAXBuSUF7XG3snnq8J z3tvJU.aZgb3ECyp6IMSqBMCzSgYZlwDGGULwchq_EspXTC3oRchCXTWfG1h_pyINqqg3OXU4p7T t8jcmbyy6UIfj6n5mGuY56zRRTCoIs1V15.mBtekejDm7A0ux3L4RQC7uluvK72dAmgSnyPzsI5W Mgbe7NfGT6GwwYTEol.ZKz0ZH_557W7api0Lwb7P.Kqe.4kbkEhWaZg7ToGbH68sJfIn0n1huYbw Q6HI_fVtYKwIqW9sVQqj3A6VOF2ImWId9oGiJO9662HE8aV4jIK9lwryzP5xoDCtiVCrkat8f3gE ta21xoiYmfB39L4HIMQN8pmX5m2GiCoucPKQd_om3nZOwxfMLxyP4lgj8YAOZHYnEIxqEZ9G40.P Sy_7frwiH0gcI6fNpa6KB7Vjd5aTR2he.jN1kQ0qlGBrRva_AGUDug5th9nLwqHgYb6KwwausPOR Qd2Irk2vTNod8P5jH1SjXf5xokUXHmku70gmDW7JtI7JmkvQupGBRVpGWQVrF_e2d8P_w6RgvCCZ yYwegBkBdpScDL5so3nynFL3iwJo5ZjZTKkBzQzlogm0ZgAXp.WcR3L2caZA2_MzzCxSW3V3v8Jq 9YXS8Mgofr0bcHIVwho1KFJuSPynwqXIJKe6PdStqA1NlcYJtslXuFEvKqMpVIubRziRbPW2shJI E1oDn02LE2YNoJZ0aRlSXBK.ZYqNaGKaHzmnnt9JWpqHaXJy1ytrVi5FnFi.tQ38Yqu1BiT2qxBj ykoz8.Xs1yx2P9ISnYUZHX.V9wJOMDLJtrh7Ec2k7VhtUYLFVEMmhs0fy8X3LlWmyFhdmC5mkP9k gKxv0.ocK9h4yIQfbGfYKZ70wvedT0P.FCK1IGNhcAzAHLJKlXY7AxtSo2d2TcHIqzVt314srJVH gUmIurQtoBz.DKmqbKp.J7LrgXTYIBmP93B1Jv7wmAnQLZF5DDQX_.9F4LZyAluVDFxefxcps_sV D6rQrxMnangy5mgVDAdHd7rerVQakcvFSyu0dhYVkHEB7da4dE9eDG8THw4RuC3uSGmqpLyNUAVt rflNrBTu6iVodvi8FOnwU3vgCe1B3YPXOhx4taSOoFk5gEYxvSq8rSb.S4O8ULO_CLHNVeTPq_c6 Z1nlIf0qOzTZhXsFh Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic314.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 20:01:10 +0000 Received: by smtp403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 4a8730afb602e1a5d19c7cfa6fa0f052; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 20:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 21:01:06 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Technological advantages over Linux Message-ID: <20200215210106.5a593e0a@archlinux> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48Kh2d2VKYz3JQG X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.44 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.17)[-0.167,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.78)[-0.782,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[146.177.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (3.17), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.16), asn: 34010(1.70), country: GB(-0.07)]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[146.177.238.77.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 20:01:14 -0000 On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 12:23:37 +0100, Vincent DEFERT wrote: >Simply stated, the behavior of a machine under the control of systemd >is no longer predictable, you have to forget standards and RFCs and >learn the systemd way. That's wrong, you need to learn either to use workarounds to outmanoeuvre unwanted systemd behaviour and/or to learn how to set up systemd correctly the way you want it to behave. Systemd doesn't declare RFCs null and void. The most used Linux init system nowadays indeed makes a technological difference between FreeBSD and Linux. It could be a valid reason to prefer FreeBSD over Linux or vice versa. Because it does make an important difference, it's very important to mention real, important differences between the init processes that are related to the original poster's use case. It's a pity that the original poser didn't mention a use case.