From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 28 21:40:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332FD16A4CE for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.tele-kom.ru (mx.tele-kom.ru [213.80.148.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D51C743D2F for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:40:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doublef@tele-kom.ru) Received: (qmail 49884 invoked by uid 555); 29 Apr 2004 08:40:40 +0400 Received: from shark (213.80.149.183) by t-k.ru with TeleMail/2 id 1083213639-49859 for cpressey@catseye.mine.nu; Thu, 29 Apr 08:40:39 2004 +0400 (MSD) Received: by shark (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5201327A; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:39:54 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:39:54 +0400 From: Sergey Zaharchenko To: Dag-Erling =?utf-8?B?U23QrHJncmF2?= Message-ID: <20040429043953.GC5872@Shark.localdomain> References: <20040426115842.GA4144@Shark.localdomain> <20040427160737.GA1325@Shark.localdomain> <20040428023920.GA382@Shark.localdomain> <20040428163104.GA10537@Shark.localdomain> <20040429022937.GB351@Shark.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UPT3ojh+0CqEDtpF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: Rahul Siddharthan cc: Sergey Zaharchenko cc: Chris Pressey cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Beginning C++ in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 04:40:43 -0000 --UPT3ojh+0CqEDtpF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 06:34:46AM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm=D0=ACrgrav probably wrote: > Sergey Zaharchenko writes: > > Consider the following situation. You have to write a plugin for some > > already existing program (and that program uses dlopen() on UN*X-like > > systems and something appropriate on Windoze and etc to load the shared > > library). Are you going to persuade the author to `consider they system > > as a whole' and link it statically to their program or what? >=20 > This has nothing to do with Turing-completeness. >=20 But it does have something to do with your (in?)ability to write such plug-ins in portable C. It wasn't me who spoke about Turing for the first time. --=20 DoubleF Machines certainly can solve problems, store information, correlate, and play games -- but not with pleasure. -- Leo Rosten --UPT3ojh+0CqEDtpF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAkIcZwo7hT/9lVdwRAissAJ9sWvCDp5ni6CpFV+kD84HfSgOFlACffe3D ZksIV9ok8wooXG7BD8/GL5Q= =0GCQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UPT3ojh+0CqEDtpF--