From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 30 17:05:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA33E37B404 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 17:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from noisebox.cypherpunks.to (adsl-208-201-229-163.sonic.net [208.201.229.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0933343FCB for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 17:05:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shamrock@cypherpunks.to) Received: from VAIO650 (adsl-208-201-229-160.sonic.net [208.201.229.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by noisebox.cypherpunks.to (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3B310B; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 17:05:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lucky Green" To: "'Brad Knowles'" Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 17:05:25 -0700 Message-ID: <007401c30f75$5e4227d0$6601a8c0@VAIO650> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: RE: 5.0 newbies: FreeBSD's future [was: Re: Tracking -CURRENT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 00:05:30 -0000 Brad Knowles wrote: > At 4:00 PM -0700 2003/04/30, Lucky Green wrote: [...] > Are you writing this as a member of -core? Is this the > official > policy of the FreeBSD project? I am neither a member of FreeBSD -core nor am I a committer. I have no official status with the FreeBSD project of any kind. I am merely a user who happened to notice certain patterns that I suspect may not yet be universally recognized. > > Early-adopters are trying 5.0-RELEASE. It tends to soon > become clear > > to them that 5.0-RELEASE does not meet their expectations for > > stability. > > Not surprising. But this is not -STABLE, so if they > want to try > 5.x, they need to be willing to read and follow the -current mailing > list, and they should be willing to demonstrate the proper use of the > appropriate search tools and archives of -current and -cvs, before > posting to this list with a problem. It may not be surprising to you that an official release version of FreeBSD is not stable. Nor may this be surprising to the regular readers of -current. I can assure you, in case this isn't clear from the question this list has seen over the last few months, that this fact can come as a surprise to some users that have utilized 4.x FreeBSD in the past, but are new to 5.0. I am simply appealing to folks to please go easy on recent 5.0 users. If it weren't for the fact that FreeBSD just had a major version release, those questions would go to -stable, or perhaps even -questions. But since neither -stable nor -questions presently are lists on which questions about 5.0 tend to find answers, -current is seeing posts from those that otherwise would not even consider posting to -current. --Lucky Green