From owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 27 11:31:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: bugs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE3A10656C2; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:31:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3EB28FC17; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:31:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl76-178.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.123.178]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id m7RBVXbT012384 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:31:39 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m7RBVW2c003907; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:31:32 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m7RBVVl3003904; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:31:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Jerry McAllister References: <87abf487wg.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87abezx5yr.fsf@kobe.laptop> <871w0bpyqh.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20080826172030.GB24840@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:31:30 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20080826172030.GB24840@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> (Jerry McAllister's message of "Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:20:31 -0400") Message-ID: <87d4juwv71.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m7RBVXbT012384 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.834, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.56, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: bugs@freebsd.org, Redd Vinylene , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I can't make world without the "games" group? X-BeenThere: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:31:49 -0000 On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:20:31 -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: >> Making it easy to disable stuff in `src.conf' is sort of a >> middle-path approach. I can live with that for now. If someone else >> comes along and moves fortune(1) and the other src/games/ stuff in a >> port, I won't really object either :) > > I have wondered if it might be reasonable to put a bunch of (more) > of that sort of stuff in a select list during installation so a > user can choose right then if certain things will be retained or > dropped on the floor. Fortune and games and even the latest Perl > and some other things might be good candidates for that select list. The current installer already includes something "like" this. The various "collections" like "src", "games", "manpages", "info docs" and the other stuff that shows up in the custom installation menu are one way of selecting what to install and what to leave out. There's definitely a lot of value in making this selection a lot more fine-grained, but then we are very close to the old "everything should be a package, including the base system" bikeshed. I am not sure I want to go back there :)