From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 14 01:49:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BC616A4CE; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 01:49:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3988343D2F; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 01:49:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior-wifi.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBE1q4Dh043585; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:52:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <41BE4691.9080104@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:49:05 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040929 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <200412060827.iB68RAmE058040@repoman.freebsd.org> <20041213191239.GB19680@dragon.nuxi.com> <200412131416.54087.peter@wemm.org> <20041214013304.GB3352@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: <20041214013304.GB3352@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=3.8 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on pooker.samsco.org cc: Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav cc: src-committers@freebsd.org cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org cc: Peter Wemm cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/pci pci_cfgreg.c X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 01:49:27 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 02:16:53PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > >>On Monday 13 December 2004 01:47 pm, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: >> >>>"David O'Brien" writes: >>> >>>>At the moment I don't know of anyone with an AMD64 PCI Express >>>>motherboard. >>> >>>The Celestica A8440 has dual onboard PCI-X NICs and two PCI-X slots. >>>Surely someone in the project should be able to get their hands on >>>one? I for one would love to have one for the tinderbox... >>> >>>DES >> >>Just for clarity, we were talking about PCI-Express, not PCI-X. >> >>BTW, I think it is amusing that the only machines readily available that >>have PCI-Express to run FreeBSD/amd64 on are Intel systems... > > > Why? > Today there is zero benefit to PCI-Express vs. AGP 8x or PCI-X 133mhz. > There is a benefit from the new generation of devices that are coming out for only PCI-Express and have features and performance that will not be matched in their PCI-X counterparts. While it's always fun for FreeBSD to be chronically behind the curve in device support, I'd like to experiment with breaking that feature and seeing if anyone has a heart attack when their bleeding edge NIC or storage card works the day that they buy it, instead of months/years later. Scott