From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 22 19:52:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562BA37B400 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:52:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from cc602670a ([24.0.114.133]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010123035230.NLYP8664.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cc602670a>; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:52:30 -0800 Message-ID: <000501c084ef$e89e42f0$85720018@cc602670a> From: "Jeff" To: "Greg Lehey" , "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: "'Steve M'" , References: <20010122065047.29559.cpmta@c004.sfo.cp.net> <010d01c08451$f39c5460$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <20010123135322.H414@wantadilla.lemis.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs linux (some venting) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:52:29 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just my 2 cents worth - I send this from within Windows 2000 and have two other boxes getting set up with FreeBSD and I have Mr. Lehey's book as well - IMHO both the book and FBSD are probably the best documented OSs' around - I could take a complete computer novice and between the man pages and "The Complete FreeBSD" have them able to do most of the basic operations within several hours to no more than several days (I know as I have done just that) and not because I am so great but simply because of the documentation that is available. Only Solaris seems to be as well documented, that is have documentaion easy to get at and easy to use. It makes me wonder what is supposed to be "sufficient" leaving out of course hand-holding and a blanket to clutch-No insults intended but did "Steve M" really get around to using what already exists? Jeff Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Lehey" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: "'Steve M'" ; Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 19:23 Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs linux (some venting) > On Monday, 22 January 2001 at 1:01:47 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Steve M wrote: > >> > >> The *nix OS' lack sufficient documentation for the average > >> user. I'm a little above the average user so I've > > > > What an insult! What about my book that was just released? And > > what about Greg's book "The Complete FreeBSD" that has been out > > longer than that? What is lacking in those efforts? And, the > > bookstores are stuffed with Linux books!! > > I wouldn't call that an insult. First, your book has really *only* > *just* hit the bookstands, and secondly there's the little word > "sufficient" in the original. That's pretty much an objective > viewpoint. It would be better to ask what's missing. > > > Your not going to get a manual, bound and all that, for the $30 > > distribution cost of the CDs! For that matter you don't get a > > manual with Microsoft's products either unless you spend $150 for > > the Resourse Kit > > > >> I'm not a geek nor do I profess to be one, I just dont have the > >> time to putz around with a minor thing as compared to MS's way of > >> doing something. > > > > If you took someone who has never seen, never touched a computer > > before and sat them in front of a FreeBSD system, I wager it would > > take just as long to train them to use it as to train them to > > use Windows. MS's way only seems easier because you learned it > > first. > > Indeed. That's my problem with your book :-) You assume that people > already know Microsoft. > > Greg > -- > When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. > If you don't, I may ignore the reply. > For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message