From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 20 15:34:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11706 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:34:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sumatra.americantv.com (sumatra.americantv.com [207.170.17.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11693 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:34:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jlemon@americantv.com) Received: from right.PCS (right.PCS [148.105.10.31]) by sumatra.americantv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13290; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:34:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from jlemon@localhost) by right.PCS (8.6.13/8.6.4) id RAA13416; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:33:29 -0500 Message-ID: <19981020173329.52764@right.PCS> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:33:29 -0500 From: Jonathan Lemon To: Alex Belits Cc: "Jasper O'Malley" , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Producing non-GPLed tools for FreeBSD References: <19981020162923.17640@right.PCS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.61.1 In-Reply-To: ; from Alex Belits on Oct 10, 1998 at 03:25:25PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Oct 10, 1998 at 03:25:25PM -0700, Alex Belits wrote: > On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Jonathan Lemon wrote: > > > > > The hypocrisy comes from misleadingly calling this "free". > > > > > > I don't think it's misleading at all. The software costs nothing, and the > > > source is available to anyone who wants it. Sounds pretty free to me. > > > > Hmm. Please note that this is the _same_ case as with any software > > that you obtain with an NDA: ``the software costs nothing'', and > > ``the source is available to anyone who wants it'', with the third > > line being ``as long as you agree to our terms''. > > > > So you could argue that the GPL is just another form of an NDA. > > I don't want to know, what do you smoke, but please, explain, what kind > of disclosure of the GPL'ed source is prohibited by GPL? Read what I wrote above. ``as long as you agree to our terms''. You can share NDA sources with other people, as long as they are NDA'd also. You can share GPL sources with other people, as long as they are GPL'd also. What is so hard to understand about this? To me, free means free. Not, ``with strings attached'', in whatever form the attachment is. > I find it disturbing that people don't see freedom unless they can trade > it for something else. I find it disturbing that people call restrictions ``freedom''. Yes, I understand the GPL. No, I don't condemn it, but I _do_ want to apprepriately label it what it is. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message