From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 27 21:46:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908F21065673 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B2B88FC1B for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:46:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19546 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jan 2011 21:46:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2011 21:46:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=WOc9y4KICsJG5M3+233A+pyW5O9eX1sJ+RcqwaizclrxPqo1poAHV5cPn/8AR+SR2wrnSph/UywuT7mJIRfT/A5thdWG7vVNWPEAG6v0L3KlKBmN+IP9jC/7Ur9hmgfO; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PiZfF-0007rP-1w for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:46:02 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:36:29 -0700 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:36:29 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD - Message-ID: <20110127213629.GA76332@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD - References: <4D2F606D.6090407@gmail.com> <20110113204525.GB3646@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <579FC70C-5B5B-43B4-9E71-D765887FAF6F@mac.com> <20110113210319.GD3646@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <1294955182.10908.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> <2062F50F-5D14-496C-A97A-FC4CDB3FDD3F@mac.com> <1294955858.10908.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20110127203928.GE75822@guilt.hydra> <1296162592.20060.41.camel@dt.vicor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1296162592.20060.41.camel@dt.vicor.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Date of a FreeBSD installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:46:03 -0000 --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 09:09:52PM +0000, Devin Teske wrote: > On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 13:39 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: >=20 > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 01:57:38PM -0800, Devin Teske wrote: > > >=20 > > > You're going to have to resort to things that aren't touched during a > > > system upgrade if you want to find out the `true' answer as to when t= he > > > box was first ... what? partitioned? newfs'd? clue me in here. > > >=20 > > > What _is_ the definition of "built" ??? When the hardware pieces were > > > coalesced into a single chassis? If that's the case, I'd be looking at > > > model numbers of internal parts. > >=20 > > I suspect that at this point you are just being pedantic, >=20 > Correct. I get paid to be pedantic. It's a staple of my tenure-track > position. Do you get paid to read carefully? I did not simply say you're being pedantic. I said you're *just* being pedantic, which is considerably less useful or respectable. >=20 > > and that you > > know what the question actually means >=20 > Correct. Going back to the OP's e-mail, he indeed clarified that he was > only interested in the install-date of FreeBSD. >=20 > > ; you just want to dismiss the >=20 > Incorrect and perceptually [unrightly] indignent. s/indignent/indignant/ (just being pedantic; pardon me) If that is not your intent, please enlighten me, because it *still* seems to be your intended meaning, and this only looks like backpedaling in the absence of any clarification of intended meaning. >=20 > The above statements (which you've taken out of context) were not to the > OP but a reply-thread between Chuck Swiger and myself. =2E . . and yet, they're on the public list, so (it seems) there must be some desire for them to be consumed by the general readership. If that desire is not rooted in an interest in publicly humiliating someone, the next most likely reason seems to be to make comments in the general context of the discussion thread hearkening back to the OP. A third most likely does not immediately spring to mind. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1B5V0ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWNegCgtbPJkuNsVy3fYmbaHINb+qER 24YAoNCzWrKYa0geNnQi6sChCNTDHsJN =cHRM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/--