From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 15 22:26:30 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5E524AC71 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 22:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic304-23.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic304-23.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.179.148]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48KlGF1qnnz3MbW for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 22:26:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: vaQt0M8VM1lcANS3h.Se1pR00oo05Uo.XyVgXhm0LmRtVw8.GCkrwCaF.xpmzIn bhMLma8LBZLp9RBj49.Fu8YIkJMOVsW4nwUxlq5CzVMYANt8sX8UeR0Bz7hF9gXm8AkQBs4UMcLW y5wWinrDwKr6XyqebUMgl4j9wIH_ZMY7BJocMr4zxThDGDmW2JwIloxG1iA4fitycTdeP1cETVpH vpnArctQBnUWsvsujgHQD51aPbk6U7zpq7wj0ixDQ7bMMVsucNC6xvK2PlhF2LMWfAM3dQUaV6pq XtaEpvrVvR0L5q4.NZmdbnTEQFXcje0JLaIr_UDVrExsc3KK8WJrVwKHgdleTky_s.Vpr4C3orP8 AYP92ukYni.T4s5uQuNZt564W12vriGEW6EM3w8cBpFepnf_YLeHXPds683fojJUHrEgxzv3sO_Y QtH8ukJF0.XQbqlObt8n7Zdaa88j30wiezdTa2yS2HQPMI9bntX9uL7Ocqp8426.h32XKw_y6vA_ Pdma.3TL9uASKTV2fmYnefIYPP99HbZvZ_emBZlYbKbm0f7A7XA81Zot.fHK1Lxj9BN7S6KbhjuP 7F_afABKLO7sPLMIrxVD7p4mvowQx0jc0v3W7C8.xBJnEuES3DzrcsQLzh81QqKWaMA1bTHHqTaq 2aMuD.lr7f_6TI2.uzlPBmB386igLIIEfqApiBLFCSsNBvmOmM.d1552Jfu5IxJceicdYgXi7MD1 8KJ.HDAaYhKXtm25q4nZBi_S1etl_aRbBi1snw1RxWYylgYrgu8OCz_W8ZlBy8JB20_dxdysjFEl yQKM9rluqEJqHx3V.GFBG1hT0MU9eHZRhdcs2PrkiG943ww6SVBKUqTBPnR1Pjlftn1.QEh48GMY yDztSszhJW2Dx9H.hpwRhoSFm7v5G1EvUKLUWauxQfby.VIA7FBjfz4sXVt_PPQ_AkADOYlqR59G FagV8qLm06Ho6nnmBQCZF217PGkapqDwgk5ENWfzXUTBdRXVLyfyAj.n29KvmSLSrtNodsMw6noK Gze3RrhvRbljz8xZCWrYRK8NVsFC5LWqpr8BvgFUkW2bsFKmbZPmpm3g5JVDp9dkMqmSV_NUG8q6 HoPOn2oDo_lzqQpsFIppaAv7mBX0XzEHyLcs7Knp1MqwmSSWXZEFmP4GE7.KHXoqDIuByl2l6aRP 45AFwRsXYKBkmgZ3It7aiEUtWzjVfdqodvN3OCNMSRye3eIcmGaKrPMfl4rMjjYxiaWhc1vChq17 s_UNmViDDFAdCS2ipsE3Hmj8BjU0VfgINYjWSuuFiEx9gfrpnHaR_sqYuLewC4bapXiyUI_hMWIS eLkIRWGO5XFPfSlag0WkJNw043bxvOh1RGYp5hReCh4QmnDg_TEZ3UtkPkcuZ8Vldn2_w.W2qZgn Kar1ceaJ2RsI1KT5s Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic304.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 22:26:26 +0000 Received: by smtp406.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 495a02426671a4b2c58709b57a530b82; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 22:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 23:26:23 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Technological advantages over Linux Message-ID: <20200215232623.7995b06e@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20200215223649.40196f37@archlinux> References: <20200214121620.GA80657@admin.sibptus.ru> <1848571509.3253011.1581719423989@mail.yahoo.com> <20200215195303.464e585a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200215202033.6c856b8f7639b304d96e68ce@sohara.org> <20200215215825.5d3c9a1a@archlinux> <20200215211542.e8cc2827fc4664ea4bcad918@sohara.org> <20200215223449.355a9ac9@archlinux> <20200215223649.40196f37@archlinux> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48KlGF1qnnz3MbW X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.12 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.67)[-0.669,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.04)[0.039,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[148.179.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (4.64), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.16), asn: 34010(1.70), country: GB(-0.07)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 22:26:30 -0000 Nobody actually knows, if most IoT devices, such as vacuum cleaners, refrigerators and sandwich toasters are using an embedded Linux or BSD. I fear that most of that crap does use Linux. While I prefer Linux over FreeBSD for my needs, this IoT crap could become a reason for me to migrate to FreeBSD, just to express opposition against a step into the wrong direction. There is no need for a sandwich toaster to know how much cheese is inside of the refrigerator and the vacuum cleaner doesn't need information about possible crumbs on the carpet, because the user likes to eat a toasted sandwich. That something is more used then something else, doesn't necessarily indicate that it's the best choice or that the usage is reasonable at all. I bet that more desktop computers on this planet run Windows, than FreeBSD or Linux for tasks, in domains that are better supported by FreeBSD or Linux.