From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 21 02:19:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8890C1065679 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:19:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unixmania@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8768FC13 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:19:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unixmania@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q2so233452uge.37 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:19:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Xvsfpg8DZy387I9hkXZua7hYaw/GwLLOLi7Umnp6dVA=; b=m1Ed36IyRRuQTHwp5f5xHfbu+3HLesUSPgEVe7bdGnmDc3JqsMu5+6htgrNg0nyOdX nare/4QbrH8WOS+AsEQe54rFXCnTsX2C8N8KjSpVhmk3xvxdoU0t38TbnYklxoych6tu g9bTlO90J72miNFXYF0Yq/eFXSy0FJdo8A4/M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Wf6zjFsijeOpRt1DcVIgCB7bt+1rQruJfNx3/RzfeL6fT3bB7f/MpKL7SYrs2eEMuN sbR9IrJW/eQEKO20+kUH/7YnghKIUu1LQnEIH2YwFQ69NKkAVgqatYwhpeFpH7yBwHgY 0o1nsNsK1iugh8UCf/QeTYYnTthuKcrHMAj04= Received: by 10.67.116.8 with SMTP id t8mr1290999ugm.57.1216605301518; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.31.16 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:55:01 -0300 From: "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" To: "Mehmet Erol Sanliturk" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation of FreeBSD . X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:19:38 -0000 On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > The installer may be allowed to make an installation diskette or USB stick > to store installation options . > When a new installation is tried on the same machine or in another similar > machine ( especially for multiple installations ), > allow user to use such an aid to use input of options . > As an example : Mandriva Free 2008 . The sysinstall(8) utility already automatic installation (though it could be improved). Nothing prevents you also from installing FreeBSD on a thumb drive and create some custom installation script. [...] > I am not fluent in C/C++ as much as Pascal and actually I am not using them. > This means that I am not able to suggest any solution about mentioned > improvements at present other than > inform you about problems . I doubt you would need C/C++ or Pascal. Shell scripting would suffice. > I copied "/boot/defaults/loader.conf "as "/boot/loader.conf ". The loader already reads /boot/defaults/loader.conf so you only need to add to /boot/loader.conf the things that you want to change. > I have changed the following parameters : > > usb_load="YES" > ukbd_load="YES" > ums_load="YES" > umass_load="YES" > umodem_load="YES" > uscanner_load="YES" > > > After these changes when started to boot FreeBSD , it is locked in detecting > ( or probing ) keyboard controller . I guess you are attempting to load ukbd with the GENERIC kernel, that already includes the driver. [trimmed stuff] > There is no any rescue CD ( let's say ) to repair the above mentioned parts > ( configuration files ) . > > I think this is a very important point to consider . ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/7.0/7.0-RELEASE-i386-livefs.iso > During installation , if a list of ports collection is selected , it is > continuously asking interchange of CD's . [trimmed stuff] > There no DVD *.ISO files for installations . If it is NOT diifcult to > generate DVD *.ISO files , > it may solve this CD interchanging difficulty . This was also lengthly discussed before too. Consider the option of installing packages from network. If an installation DVD is required then look at FreeBSD Mall: http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm > The above points show that installation steps of FreeBSD should be > re-considered carefully > when compared to other operating system installations . They are already being considered. Please follow the discussion lists for a while. [discussion about installation, GUI-based installation, et cetera] There are several ongoing projects attempting to address this. Take a look at PC-BSD and DesktopBSD: http://www.desktopbsd.net/ http://www.pcbsd.org/ -- If you think things can't get worse it's probably only because you lack sufficient imagination.