From owner-freebsd-chat Fri May 21 11: 5:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD194159C8 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:05:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:05:36 -0700 From: "David Schwartz" To: "G. Adam Stanislav" Cc: Subject: RE: GPL alternatives Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:05:35 -0700 Message-ID: <001701bea3b4$864bfc00$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19990520233107.F255@whizkidtech.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright * notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the * documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. It is not enough that you indemnify the author. You must force your customers to do so as well. > > I have serious problems with the BSD license. My biggest > one is that it > > requires you to foist a disclaimer on your customer. > > Does it? All it asks is that you give credit to the original > author for his > part of the work, and that you indemnify him for his work. No, it is not enough that you indemnify him. Read above. > > This makes it intolerable for companies like mine who take > responsibility for > > their software. > > You can still take full responsibility for your own work. You are > just asked not > to sue the original author (although nothing can actually stop > you from suing > him :). You cannot take responsibility. How can you when you are required to force your customers to indmenify the original author? Suppose you write a library under the BSD license, and I decide to use it in a commercial product. How do I take responsibility when I am required to force my customers to indemnify someone? > > I wish the BSD license allowed you two options: > > > > 1) You indemnify the author and make no representations > about the original > > author, or > > > > 2) You make your customers indemnify the author, and you accurately > > credit/blame the code on the original author. > > > > However, the BSD license only permits the second option. > > Hmmm... The way I read it, you can do either. Read it again. DS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message