From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 16:45:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F07F1775 for ; Fri, 9 May 2014 16:45:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shepard.synsport.net (mail.synsport.com [208.69.230.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C82969C7 for ; Fri, 9 May 2014 16:45:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.20] (unknown [130.255.19.191]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shepard.synsport.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F18438EB for ; Fri, 9 May 2014 11:44:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <536D05E6.10905@marino.st> Date: Fri, 09 May 2014 18:44:22 +0200 From: John Marino Reply-To: marino@freebsd.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unable to use ports on 8.3 or earlier since r352986 References: <495738D66545411BA78B31A6615EFA48@multiplay.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 May 2014 16:45:02 -0000 On 5/9/2014 18:33, Steven Hartland wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Big Lebowski" > > >> Well, the EoL was announced in January, and it is what its name is: >> end of >> life. There have been changes waiting to happen just for the 8.3 to go >> away, so when the day was reached, they've been applied. This doesnt seem >> very bad, but instead, just about time, since there was no reason to hold >> them off any longer. > > In an ideal world everyone would have migrated off, but its not an ideal > world so being friendly to our users and not breaking everything in ports > at the first available opportunity would be nice. I'll stress the previous point again. The change that broke this was desired 8 months ago. It was applied as soon as it was legal to do so. Anyone who knowingly chose not migrate off before the EOL pretty much is getting a lesson about why that was an unwise decision. That lesson is not specific to FreeBSD. > Users may well be quite happy to port the small number of OS security fixes > until they have completed their upgrades, I know thats something we plan to > do here. Ports on the other hand is a different matter, as the number of > fixes / changes is much higher so makes it impractical. They were supposed to have completed their upgrades prior to the EOL. >> From what I've read there doesn't seem to be a must have reason for this > change, if this is indeed the case is there any reason not to consider > users? > > One example that springs to mind is the release version of pfsense is still > 8.3 so being to still compile updated ports with fixes for that is very > useful. I don't know anything about pfsense, or why it needs to compile ports, but I think you should asked them why they haven't had a release prior to 8.3 EOL. That's probably an excellent question. John