From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Mar 9 13:12:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from xylan.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA84314C2F for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:12:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com by xylan.com (8.8.7/SMI-SVR4 (xylan-mgw 2.2 [OUT])) id NAA25124; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:11:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from utah.XYLAN.COM by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id NAA18117; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:10:59 -0800 Received: from softweyr.com by utah.XYLAN.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (xylan utah [SPOOL])) id OAA07875; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:10:52 -0700 Message-ID: <36E58E68.C1F691D@softweyr.com> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 14:11:04 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brett Glass Cc: Bill Fumerola , Brett Taylor , Adam Turoff , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ports References: <4.1.19990302163944.00a1e620@localhost> <4.1.19990308213030.03ea5c80@localhost> <4.1.19990309092847.04176b50@localhost> <4.1.19990309130444.0416d5c0@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brett Glass wrote: > > At 12:09 PM 3/9/99 -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > > >You seem to have a different view of professionalism than anyone else. Show > >me another software company that supports their out-of-date products. > > This one's gonna hurt, I reckon: Microsoft. Patches, fixes, and new software > for Windows 95 are still available on their Web site. And the damned thing still crashes daily, and when, after 3 weeks of trying, you do actually get a live human being on their developer support line, they tell you they've assigned an engineer to the case and he will get back with you in 3 to 6 weeks. Then he tells you you're stupid, it's not supposed to do that, and closes the bug, so he can get on to the next of 104,000 bugs in his queue alone. Sure, Microsoft supports their products. Been there, done that, got the rectal fissures to show for it. > It shouldn't require even as much effort as picking up a bag of rocks. > The problem here seems to be systemic. Yeah: people keep asking for freebies without wanting to contribute back. -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters +1.801.915.2061 Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message