From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 25 12:50:12 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F49C16A4CE; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:50:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-234.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4A543F75; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:50:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4AA8A66C55; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:50:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:50:09 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Matthew Dillon Message-ID: <20031125205009.GA38563@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20031125025621.453732A8FC@canning.wemm.org> <200311250311.hAP3BTCO075916@apollo.backplane.com> <20031125150700.GA48007@madman.celabo.org> <20031125201421.GB54467@madman.celabo.org> <200311252039.hAPKdBfq080963@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200311252039.hAPKdBfq080963@apollo.backplane.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: "Jacques A. Vidrine" cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: "M. Warner Losh" Subject: Re: 40% slowdown with dynamic /bin/sh X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:50:12 -0000 --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 12:39:11PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: > So, yes, I do think you guys are being lazy in that regard. If this > is the path you've chosen to go then you have an obligation not to > tear out major existing system capabilities, such as the ability to > generate static binaries, in the process. If this is what you think has happened, you're living in some parallel fantasy universe. > There is a lot of circular reasoning going on here... it's the same sort > of circular reasoning that John uses to justify some of the more esoteric > scheduling mechanisms in -current. A because of B because of A, and > to hell with anyone who wanted to use C. Keep the ad homenim attacks to yourself, buster! This was uncalled-for. Kris --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/w8CAWry0BWjoQKURAqU0AJ9i7BHrKyYJYPawsFEZTym49UIybgCeIRWw CrPU0GAEgCgOqbr0z2jS8Qo= =sllq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx--