From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Nov 2 3:42:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506EB37B401; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 03:42:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com (mailout10.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271F143E6E; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 03:42:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 187wfJ-0005Ti-00; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 12:42:09 +0100 Received: from jhs.muc.de (520006753247-0001@[217.235.114.85]) by fmrl01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 187wf8-1doUiWC; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:41:58 +0100 Received: from flip.jhs.private (flip.jhs.private [192.168.91.24]) by jhs.muc.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2BheH24956; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:43:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from flip.jhs.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flip.jhs.private (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2Bh8s91584; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:43:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@flip.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200211021143.gA2Bh8s91584@flip.jhs.private> To: webmaster@freebsd.org Cc: "Eric Anderson" , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, "Oliver Fromme" Subject: Re: To Do list / Goals In-Reply-To: Message from Eric Anderson of "Fri, 01 Nov 2002 08:54:18 CST." <3DC2959A.4@centtech.com> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 12:43:08 +0100 From: "Julian H. Stacey" X-Sender: 520006753247-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG webmaster@freebsd.org, cc advocacy@, Oliver, Eric etc, > From: Oliver Fromme > To: jhs@berklix.com (Julian Stacey) > Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 11:22:54 +0200 (CEST) > > I noticed that the link to your "consultants index" on > the following page is broken: > http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/consulting.html#Julian_Stacey > From: Eric Anderson > Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 08:54:18 -0600 > To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG > > - master list of major BSD vendors/consultants -> this is a GREAT idea. > Maybe a list by area, with contact info There are already Two FreeBSD commercial consultants lists ! http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/consulting.html - Alphabetic by name of person or company, (EG I'm under `J' for Julian), most useful if you already know who you want. - Has a Broken Link http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/consultants.html to my latest http://berklix.com/jhs/consultants.html http://berklix.com/jhs/consultants.html - Indexed geographicaly, sorted by continent, country, region, town, ideal to search for someone nearby, who you don't yet know. - Tabulated, no free text. - Split into full timers & part timers. - ( The freebsd.org list started after mine, but grew faster, but both are at least several years old.) The 2 pages should be merged, to merge & maintain, one would need: - agreement from webmaster@freebsd.org - commit bit to maintain the CVS'd freebsd.org web version, Work: - Strip (or comment out) descriptions from freebsd.org page, as there's no room in a table for all of this, & the info either grows stale or presents an extra update burden, the info is better updated by the consultant himself on his own page. Retain geographic location & contact URL's. - Reverse geographic index the whole thing. - Merge freebsd.org entries into my [or similar] tabular format. - Merge in all my entries, - Convert to SGML, - CVS commit, to replace both existing pages. - Maintain forever. I volunteer to do the work if freebsd.org restore my freebsd.org/~jhs/ (which was removed when someone wrongly thought it was not used). > so techies pushing FreeBSD > have a "local"ish person they can ask for tips, etc. Both commercial lists are not appropriate for people looking for free help (there's web & email for free help). For a tabulated list one could add an asterisk column if free help was also offered. Not sure how keen consultants would be to tick "Yes". PS Oliver (& other consultants), while I remember: send a _pre-formatted_ HTML entry for http://berklix.com/jhs/consultants.html & I'll add you, assuming you'd like to be. > - a "bsd vs linux" table, with factoids and references Someone may want to integrate http://people.freebsd.org/~murray/bsd_flier.html & other info into a printable leaflet format such as at: http://bim.bsn.com/leaflet/ If anyone does that please mail me the URL, thanks. Julian Stacey jhs @ berklix.com Computer Sys. Eng. & Unix Consultant, Munich Ihr Rauchen = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz ! Schnupftabak probieren. FreeBSD-4.7 just out - free with 7650 programs - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message