From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 4 12:37:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7532816A403 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:37:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D547013C428 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:36:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so4819606uge for ; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 04:36:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=IFdYjO/bytdaaYtoz3zlCkDeXLRxp0O9pZVTW1+Co6Q2O++kQdPuCuKXmejMAc34OZ8+t3rbxsvNRtZqsv5nxnH8pbWPds5IntLiIlN9yX1e6r2isP6YRyt00WK+37L703bBRo2rHq7PvTpJrIPuImFPKCXG3byXhB7o5Jp4aDM= Received: by 10.78.146.11 with SMTP id t11mr3898445hud.1167914218534; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 04:36:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.164.20 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 04:36:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:36:58 +0300 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: "Robert C Wittig" In-Reply-To: <459CE4F2.2000108@sbcglobal.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070103211426.GA60153@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <459CE4F2.2000108@sbcglobal.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: b753e9ae47183e9b Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installer vs RedHat Linux Fedora Core Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:37:00 -0000 On 1/4/07, Robert C Wittig wrote: > Sunnz wrote: > > > Perhaps the stability of FBSD has led to the infrequent use of the > > installer for (re)installation. Think about it: if you are using the > > installer frequent enough to worry about how it look like, what are > > you doing? Reinstalling your OS every several months? > > > > Personally, I prefer the FreeBSD and OpenBSD installers to the more > GUI-type installers used by Microsoft. > > Initially, I had to do some Googling, and studying up, to learn the > installation procedures, the various options available, which options > were best for which types of installs, etc. > > After that was done, I had a nice little spiral notebook with a bunch of > hand-written notes, and a nice pile of URLs to refer to, as needed. > > This is the UNIX way... once the OS is installed, one is still going to > still have to understand the ins and outs of the operating system, the > LAN, TCP/IP, etc., and learn enough about C/C++, shell scripting, and > correct syntax in general, to edit their config files in vi, and > understand the man pages. > > Making the installer any 'easier' to use than the operating system > itself is to run and administer, seems pointless. I remember I had this official MS Windows 2000 beta CD. On its casing there was a picture of a would-be industry professional, sitting at his PC with one hand on the keyboard and the other one going through a thick reference manual. The picture was too small to make out what was there on his screen, but I bet the guy was a Unix newbie, working his way through the first installation in his life or whatever :-)