From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 16 04:09:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DC9722 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 04:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mi+thun@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51454873 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 04:09:54 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=L+6fspv8 c=1 sm=0 a=qeRvV3Pq7Nxew94SikMvAA==:17 a=d8Isu0L9vBEA:10 a=LbyY71X0eGoA:10 a=YNqtyO0l_hcA:10 a=LaogzpLLAAAA:8 a=FoeWSrC19yYA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=bNLRsoe4H6W9dZ7Hs3wA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=yD0e6-nzfSkA:10 a=g3jXOTbV4gx1gC7Y:21 a=TqZHskGHHNYFnqWx:21 a=vmWDw-zES_VPHdRb0WsA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Z71TGMKU8vI4jbwq:21 a=qeRvV3Pq7Nxew94SikMvAA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=mi+thun@aldan.algebra.com; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=mi+thun@aldan.algebra.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=anat; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: 71.187.31.131 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of aldan.algebra.com) Received: from [71.187.31.131] ([71.187.31.131:14484] helo=[192.168.1.8]) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPA id 4C/E7-09236-E860F115; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:09:52 -0500 Message-ID: <511F068C.8060503@aldan.algebra.com> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:09:48 -0500 From: "Mikhail T." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130209 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Lepore Subject: Re: ports include /etc/src.conf? i.e. graphics/libfpx References: <511B662C.7030602@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <511B874A.7080901@kbh.biglobe.ne.jp> <511BBDAD.1080806@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <511CD83C.107@aldan.algebra.com> <511CE2AD.8050506@aldan.algebra.com> <20130214143445.GA5414@straylight.m.ringlet.net> <511EB799.8090401@aldan.algebra.com> <1360973567.1164.13.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> In-Reply-To: <1360973567.1164.13.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 04:27:43 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: Tom Evans , Yamaya Takashi , Kimmo Paasiala , jmg@funkthat.com, Current FreeBSD , Ports FreeBSD , "O. Hartmann" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 04:09:54 -0000 15.02.2013 19:12, Ian Lepore ???????(??): > The src.conf manpage is not in error. The intent is that src.conf > applies only to the building of the freebsd world and kernel, that is, > the source that's usually located under /usr/src. If settings from > src.conf are leaking into other builds, the error is in the makefiles, > not in the manpage. > > Unambiguous evidence of this can be found in the email announcing the > new src.conf file and why it was created: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2006-March/061725.html > > I'm not an expert with the build system, and that goes double for ports, > so I can't say exact how or why it's broken, or when the breakage > happened (or even if it's been broken from the very beginning), but I > think that announcement email makes it clear the bug isn't the > documentation. Thank you, sir, for posting the link. Once I read it, however, I am puzzled. Because, contrary to what you are saying,it makes no statement about whether or not knobs in src.conf are (or are not) supposed to affect makefiles outside of /usr/src. The only paragraph mentioning the new file says: - Options can be passed on the make(1) command line or in the new /etc/src.conf (overrideable). The reason for the new src.conf is so we keep make(1) environment clean from these variables outside world/kernel builds (make.conf pollutes the environment as it's included by sys.mk). I fail to see, where in the above it says, that a private project's /home/ian/foo/BSDmakefile is not supposed to be affected by the system's /etc/src.conf. Do you? There may be other reasons for src.conf(5) to claim, what it claims about the file's "only purpose", but the e-mail you referred to is not one of them. -mi