From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 1 18:29:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDB516A4BF for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebsdgirl.com (daemonporn.com [66.36.228.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A5043FCB for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:29:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sektie@freebsdgirl.com) Received: from freebsdgirl.com (nat-66-223-56.interland.net [66.223.56.127] (may be forged)) by freebsdgirl.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h821UiB4069166; Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:30:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sektie@freebsdgirl.com) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:28:59 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) To: Bill Moran From: Randi Harper In-Reply-To: <3F53C171.1080700@potentialtech.com> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) cc: sub_0@netcabo.pt cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ugly Huge BSD Monster X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 01:29:06 -0000 On Monday, September 1, 2003, at 06:00 PM, Bill Moran wrote: > Mario Freitas wrote: >> On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 17:16, Bill Moran wrote: >>> Joao Schim wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:42:59 +0100 >>>> Mario Freitas wrote: >>>> >>>>> FreeBSD is not intended to be used as a desktop, >>> >>> Hey! I resent that. I've used FreeBSD as my desktop for 5 years >>> now. >>> >>> >>> >>>> I thought there was even a freebsd-gnome list around, and if gnome >>>> isn't >>>> desktop than i dont know what is.. >>> >>> If that's not good enough: >>> http://freebsd.kde.org >> I've used FreeBSD as my desktop for 4 years... >> And as a __last__ explanation on what I wanted to say is that, IMHO, >> "the main objective of FreeBSD" is not desktop but networking. >> OSX and MS. Windows is more desktop oriented(doesn't necessarily mean >> FreeBSD is worse for desktop than MS. Windows) >> Finally, Did you understand what I meant? > > Possibly, but if I understand you, I still disagree with you. > > There's considerable effort that goes into integrating FreeBSD with KDE > and Gnome and many other programs that make a spiffy Desktop. > > I wouldn't call the server role "the main objective" under any > circumstances. Personally, I would consider the main objective > to be a stable, secure, fast OS that's flexible enough to drop into > any role needed. But that's just my opinion. > Ya'll do realize that this is a pointless conversation that has taken place many times before, right? I understand if it's all for fun and just for the sake of arguing, but no one is ever going to agree or concede to anyone else's point. This is about as fruitless as the 'which OS is best?' question. FreeBSD can be a fabulous desktop _if you know how to use it as such_. FreeBSD can be a fabulous server as well, _if you know how to use it as such_. My toaster could be a fabulous server if I could just figure out how to make ipf filter out forks and spoons and only allow in bagels. C'mon now, people. ;) Randi Harper sektie@freebsdgirl.com http://freebsdgirl.com