From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 20 17:26:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3D310656E5 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34A98FC15 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-98-37.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.98.37]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD2850A89; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:26:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id m7KHQkdZ001703; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:26:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:26:46 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20080820192646.77fc5508.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20080820021724.GA45253@thought.org> References: <20080817220431.GA1187@thought.org> <20080818001426.0fb09ff7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20080817233006.GC3376@thought.org> <20080818020238.1a7a8013.freebsd@edvax.de> <1219020103.4994.21.camel@localhost> <20080818035732.56348313.freebsd@edvax.de> <1219098997.4994.151.camel@localhost> <20080820005959.39b121ce.freebsd@edvax.de> <20080820021724.GA45253@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: kde troubles.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:26:50 -0000 On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:17:25 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 12:59:59AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:36:37 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 03:57 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > > > On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:41:42 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 02:02 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > > > > > Yes, since I need to use FreeBSD 7 after an accident destroying all > > > > > > my data where fsck cannot help anymore, and FreeBSD 7 and it's > > > > > > software does not behave the way I think it should... :-( > > > > > > > > > > > > After my Nov., 1999 disk failure, I found that my 4G tape had > > > overwritten stuff; I lost 10 months of data files. .... . > > > > For me, it was July 2nd. The data is still there, but I can't > > access it because the inode at the entry to my home directory > > has died, and fsck_ffs says stupid things. :-) > > Can you connect with your network in any way? A couple years ago > I had an "Oh no" situation where I figured everything was lost, > but by booting single-user a network wizard somewhere nearby came > by and moved /home, /etc/ and /usr/local/etc to my Ubuntu > computer. It was voodoo to me. Still is. Suggest to hang on to > your drive and see if there is some net-wizard nearby you. What is a "net-wizard"? Terminology not clear to me... I have put the original defective harddisk aside and I'm toying around (sadly, it isn't more than that) with a dd image of the partition. Some time ago, I setup a FreeBSD 7 system on another harddisk which I am using right now. So I don't have general problems, it's just... all my data (programming, photography) is lost. :-( > Sometimes when I have many instantiations of kde-gnash going I > grind to a crawl, then to a near halt. This is with 7.0. I > didn't see that with 6.x. I'm just using plain Opera, no "Flash" stuff at all. I can open up eBay and middle-click some articles. Load goes up to 100% and Opera is inresponsive, up to the point when all pages have been loaded completely. > Have you posted to the kernel hackers? Can you borrow someone's > fast[er] hardware and duplicate your configuration? No, I don't have access to newer x86 stuff, only older stuff that runs faster (!) as I had mentioned. I cannot image this to be a kernel issue. I never had such problems from FreeBSD 4 up to 6. Maybe it's really... that my hardware is too old... > Unreal! My first thought would be to check out your faster > 2.0GHz hardware. I've got a CD that tests drives and said my two > drives on the Dell (2.4GHz) were okay. I cannot image this to be a drive problem (see the same stuff done on the same hardware, just with different FreeBSD versions); I know gcc does optimization, and that I can't compare FreeBSD 5 to FreeBSD 7. It's just magnitudes of time consumtion that do really irritate me. But I don't mind. Runs at night, next day it's done. The make times _were_ of the 2 GHz P4 machine. It compiles FreeBSD 7 as fast as the 300 MHz P3 did with FreeBSD 5. But as an explaination for better understanding: I'm not the guy who compiles his applications day by day. I setup a system, buildworld and buildkernel with KERNCONF, then install all stuff via pkg_add -r and just compile mplayer (because of flags to be set at compile time); after this, I _never_ touch the system anymore. (Exception: Servers I do maintain get their neccessary security updates, for example for system, SSH, Apache or MySQL; portupgrade is my tool of choice there.) > Is there any kind of > DOS/Win tool to check the microprocessor? I don't know such tools. "make buildworld" usually is my choice to see if a system is okay, and memtest live CD. I'm not sure if my hardware is still "Windows" compatible because I've got no "Windows" around. > It can't be fans > completely, but how many do you have. No, can't, fans run fine, xmbmon shows normal values. I should buy a new computer, shouldn't I? =^_^= > My 1998 Kayaks have three > fans keeping the 400MHz uproc cool. Same here, too, three fans. > Your data makes no sense whatsoever!! I'd like to try out what happens when I do install FreeBSD 5 again. In fact, I put in a FreeBSD 5 hard disk and... wow... how fast! > > I would never try this. StarOffice and OpenOffice 1 had precompiled > > packages for use with pkg_add -r, but this was years ago. > > > I'm running 2.4 (I think), I only use the word-processor, and > it's fine. ... . That's what I have LaTeX for. :-) But I have to admit that I did use StarOffice for some purposes, and it was a nice program. > Please do keep me and the rest of the list up to date regarding > your hardware problems. I hope I can find out some informations with a bit mor substance in order to formulate better questions that lead me to some advice that will change the situation. And I repeat: The maketime values are for real! -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...