From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 2 11:17:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434B8106566C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 11:17:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6218FC1A for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 11:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q52BH8t8044229; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:17:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q52BH7kc044226; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:17:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:17:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Thomas Mueller In-Reply-To: <2D.EC.32214.0EBE9CF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> Message-ID: References: <2D.EC.32214.0EBE9CF4@smtp01.insight.synacor.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:17:08 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Mario Lobo , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 11:17:14 -0000 > I suppose if it ain't broke, don't fix it. > > I have FreeBSD 8.2_RELEASE i386 on an old computer, pinched for disk space and only 256 MB RAM, won't try upgrading in place. > > On the new computer, after not being able to boot NetBSD most of the time and never getting to a graphical interface, FreeBSD 9.0-BETA1 was released, and I downloaded and installed that: a dream compared to NetBSD which didn't really like the new hardware. I used NetBSD after using linux and before FreeBSD. Since v 1.6 and definitely since 2.0 NetBSD turned into bloatware, as well as crashware and slowware. Exactly as i predicted when new company were created and started "sponsoring" NetBSD too much. It is useless now. FreeBSD fortunately doesn't go that route, every new release is actually better, and bloatware required to get enough sponsoring is clearly separated from the real part, having no effect on base system if you don't use it. > I never used the old computer as a server. i do. Old computers for small scale server (small office, few users), New for larger. > > For a server, you don't need a lot of fancy stuff such as Adobe Flash and do you need this for a non-server? Adobe don't want us (FreeBSD users) to use their closed-source software. And i respect their will and don't use it. Which resulted in much easier browsing by the way :) > and other multimedia functionality, nor do you need a lot of RAM. depends what you run. Add spamassassin, clamav, squid and 512MB is quite a minimum, 256MB bearable with max few users and quita a bit of paging. Anything NEW, like cheapest dell poweredge server you can buy, is enough for even large office unless you do stupid things, or use virtualbox heavily.