From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 16 08:56:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9035216A4CE for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 08:56:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.linkline.com (smtp2.linkline.com [64.30.215.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7B643D39 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 08:56:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sclements@linkline.com) Received: from samclementsde (host-66-59-225-129.lcinet.net [66.59.225.129]) by smtp2.linkline.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6532872; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 08:56:39 -0800 (PST) From: "Samuel Clements" To: "'Simon'" , "'Lanny Baron'" Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 08:56:40 -0800 Organization: linkLINE Communications, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <20040316071708.C765C43D39@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Thread-Index: AcQLJrxbcijYg+8NQ0WI8qN0WGRwIAAUIQ2Q Message-Id: <20040316165639.6532872@smtp2.linkline.com> cc: 'Artem Koutchine' cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Multiprocessor system VS one processor system X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: sclements@linkline.com List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:56:41 -0000 http://developer.intel.com/design/servers/technologies/Multi-Path_0317.pdf Here is a pdf of the marketing speak. I've seen this on all dual CPU Intel server boards since the PII boards. There is more info on Intel's server website (of course) or at http://developer.intel.com/design/servers/technologies/ . -Sam -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Simon Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:18 PM To: Lanny Baron Cc: Artem Koutchine; freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiprocessor system VS one processor system Sounds like a cool feature. What detects/monitors the CPUs to spot any problems and mark them offline at the next reboot? is this a feature of FreeBSD or motherboards you use? I have never heard of anything like this on Intel based servers, before. PS: then again, I never had a CPU fail after it passed DOA, maybe I haven't gone through enough CPUs, yet. -Simon On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 02:10:41 -0500, Lanny Baron wrote: >With our Servers (dual and quad), if a CPU becomes defective and causes >a crash, when the Server reboots, it will mark the CPU off-line and use >the other CPU. That makes it redundant. And that is, for anyone >considering their Server to be of prime importance, a hell of lot better >than waiting for a replacement of the same cpu with the same stepping. > >Lanny > >Simon wrote: > >> You keep comparing old dual CPUs to a new 2x faster single CPU >> server. Why don't you compare the latest dual CPU server to the >> latest single CPU server, and then tell us which one you think would >> be faster :-) Anyway, dual 500mhz server would be very close to single >> 1000Mhz CPU server, as long as everything else is the same. The >> idea is to take advantage of multiple CPUs using latest components, >> not just any 2 CPUs, but you keep missing this important point. >> >> PS: dual Xeon 3Ghz would be faster than single Xeon 3Ghz CPU >> and there is currently no Xeon 6Ghz CPU, so your only option is >> to have more than one CPU to make the server faster, thus SMP. >> Of course when Xeon (or whatever they name it) 6Ghz comes out, >> your dual Xeon 3Ghz server would be quite outdated and by then >> you could have dual 6Ghz server. >> >> -Simon >> >> On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 09:36:17 +0300, Artem Koutchine wrote: >> >> >>>>>of processes with short run periods you will get overal >>>>>perfomance somewhere near 5000Mhz. However, when i >>>>>subsituted two 500Mhz CPUs with 1500Mhz one (even with >>>>>less 2nd level cache) on a heavy loaded web server i notice >>>>>that sites started to load faster. So, it seems as >>>>>one 3X Mhz CPU is faster that two X MHz CPUs, at least >>>>>for web server with sql base and many perl scripts. >>>>> >>>> >>>>This is true as long there is no load until the CPU cache comes >>>>into the game. It also depends on how the CPUs are connected to >>>>the main memory. >>> >>> >>>Hm.. >>>Let me make up a case. >>>Two boxes: >>>1) Dual CPU X Mhz with Y KB of cache >>>2) Sinnge CPU with 2X Mhz and 2Y KB of cache >>> >>>Which one is faster under FreeBSD? I think the >>>second one, because SMP overhead is gone. >>> >>>Artem >>>_______________________________________________ >>>freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= >Lanny Baron >Proud to be 100% FreeBSD >http://www.FreeBSDsystems.COM >Toll Free: 1.877.963.1900 >=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= > > _______________________________________________ freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"