From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 07:57:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C460540B for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2014 07:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6421D2BE6 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2014 07:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s5F7vA2e037700 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2014 08:57:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s5F7vA2e037700 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s5F7vA2e037700; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <539D51CE.3050900@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 08:57:02 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port Changes FAQ References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sVklTHux4Gu7hMEAe8CcqbpSoOKoMiTwV" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 07:57:17 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --sVklTHux4Gu7hMEAe8CcqbpSoOKoMiTwV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15/06/2014 00:53, Chris Maness wrote: > I have not been keeping up with all of the changes going on with > FreeBSD. I received a couple of end of life notices, so I have > upgraded and I am good till fall. Is there a place where I can find > out all the changes that are happening so that I am not asking the > same question that might have already been asked many times here? There is a lot going on in the ports at the moment. We're removing some things that have caused a logjam in ports development for many years, and consequently running to catch up on a lot of ports system infrastructure changes which ideally would have happened long ago and at a more gradual pace. An important date is this September, which is when pkg_tools will finally reach EoL. Removing pkg_tools support is going to enable a lot more modernization in the ports tree. pkg-1.3 should be out sometime this summer too, and that has some significant changes to do with solving dependency requirements, which will make a big difference to end users. As polytropon said else-thread, the new pkg(8) stuff basically adds state-of-the-art binary package management. It most certainly doesn't take away the ability to use the ports to build from source. However, pretty intimately connected with pkg(8) there is also poudriere(8) which gives you the best of both worlds: the control and customizability of building everything from source and the speed and convenience of maintaining your live systems by installing binary packages. It's well worth giving poudriere a spin, even if you've only got a few machines to maintain. How to keep up current with all these changes? You can pick up a lot by reading the /usr/ports/CHANGES file, but that's a bit bare of context. The most effective method is probably to follow the ports@... mailing list -- but that involves wading through a lot of other traffic to pick out the bits that might interest you. The ports-announce@... list is good too, but doesn't necessarily carry everything relevant. The quarterly reports should provide a reasonable overview of activities, but they only show up every 3 months. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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