From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 7 23:28:29 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994DD2E89C8 for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 23:28:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd36.google.com (mail-io1-xd36.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d36]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49J8lw4vDvz3PsT for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 23:28:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd36.google.com with SMTP id i19so5697753ioh.12 for ; Thu, 07 May 2020 16:28:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=NlEbmOXYPviEwXnQI9Qchkm1aJ0vyb5t2JWTMN+Fq7M=; b=InyTUWaEEbpjT8ZNxVrL7tIHLQkhI5D6hHK/Rw+7Q44w0NKxdDkOK0fG8XCslV/BtV 737W+zH45GkbahEAcwASv8N2PFYa2ko1aaHGdpt8Rm++g+xnf/3l/iMB8HjNUBVoqyJ1 XqQljFm80tq7XvSI+fYSo2klfPjDb22n0R9dR+76OBSiFYAdGtAJrFuYh3/M4XvT51cM AaOWguwEuMcMc8uJifYc7OZEOBRiuZ6o6nOVV+yY9MAlKU0xt9eUAFO3QcQY3QJntaMS yysIwVbFQ2m5sQQbYfEjzNISod1Foshcqj3UBVsWHJR0EDuPVR2MIxRSQaJ9F2Q1v4yz 9yug== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=NlEbmOXYPviEwXnQI9Qchkm1aJ0vyb5t2JWTMN+Fq7M=; b=qJRfAMMd5xgvDOu+ndcTrrMiZBbOEhfiDqB9TYej6Slhtl56mOwNx7mFaU02zQqEp7 DIZEV+rtsBTuVN4gcEwocQks/GjfYwoAeeDrg4Jf+2XhZVL+p1YgzERUP2J5IZEUudhI eApHvRLRPi659vm01/FDCPDzoczmoqXaD1zgnXv5QkZnESlq9woRxuhlEls+ZaTRkL5/ D3RSgFv5kZSHtBC8hPIdMQzI522P65p83j3acznyX+kWaDnG+bT0K/7dCcZP3svSd/ji ZA/UET0/PZJPAwwSFHVi8+xLVjaKbEUzc+IiCiuE0ey/t5RtVdyJCRmc2sAVSJMcGyMU dw3w== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PubDhqtYHVvQTb5tqLG/8HOB5vPf6uKVl2vpWmRAD0oazo5fAQj1 b0uZ+Po5QXladDyXGoAfdIIH09ThdPZA3CEUwgM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJha8HeNDZNdpyH2QpSQvV+Di9xHv3SN5fXaEXQPqMgDMgSm+w8AJZde5MEm+k6OacB1l7dZj5tD2Skm6yGOEQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6602:2f8a:: with SMTP id u10mr16327230iow.83.1588894107638; Thu, 07 May 2020 16:28:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200505203456.8b85330a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200505211848.b6d81e98.freebsd@edvax.de> <8577cb33-9a32-a0f7-01ab-e18d4e19296d@gmail.com> <20200506115719.afb73ae0.freebsd@edvax.de> <6a6e1fc3-7c31-dc7b-6059-3552fd6036e4@nethead.se> <685ad11b-0490-df46-77ad-f62878459f0c@kicp.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 19:28:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bsd install To: Brandon helsley Cc: Valeri Galtsev , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49J8lw4vDvz3PsT X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=InyTUWaE; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d36 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[15]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[hotmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-6.53), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.30 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2020 23:28:29 -0000 On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 7:03 PM Brandon helsley wrote: > I have heard no bad news ever. Nothing but good, just a little paranoid. > Almost everyone on the list is willing to help, but at the same time some combinations of "help" are oil and water. What I mean is while we are all helpful there are certain pairs of people who just hate each other. Valerie is one half of such a pair and even though I don't hold any malice towards Val they seem to hold it towards me. Each to otheir own I guess. > Sent from Outlook Mobile > ________________________________ > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org < > owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> on behalf of Valeri Galtsev < > galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> > Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 3:16:14 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: bsd install > > > > On 5/7/20 4:01 PM, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > > On 2020-05-06 11:57, Polytropon wrote: > > [...] > >> In my opinion and experience, the FreeBSD community is one > >> of the friendliest (!) I have encountered so far. Where does > >> the reputation of being unfriendly come from? I'm not asking > >> this in any kind of impolite tone, I'm really interested in > >> who thinks and says this community is unfriendly... > > > > +1 > > +1 > > No only the community is the friendliest, the mail lists are such that > almost ask: please, abuse me. And in fact they sometimes are abused, and > that could be what was perceived by someone as "unfriendly", as the > lists do not fence off abusers, and hence abusers may be perceived as > part of community. Just a wild guess. > > Valeri > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Valeri Galtsev > Sr System Administrator > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > University of Chicago > Phone: 773-702-4247 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Aryeh M. 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