From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 10 08:03:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A4C16A403 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:03:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C89413C428 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:03:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so418291nfc for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:03:00 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gvIusv8NWXlsXiDcChAM+bDjMXYMD7cJwXWBF3zRW/3gWdNQATG3EhaYGGGqnDg7bjpzdTE35uH9NdTsWmZkIdxKK2NzqvgfjHD9ggt9OcJkTTqicCrl4+en4w0vf7GmlP3DsrY9uzIaRwd+K3857eiy6sGz9vlxKnFT2z8gV3Y= Received: by 10.78.170.17 with SMTP id s17mr24977hue.1168416180261; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:03:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.118.10 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:03:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 02:03:00 -0600 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Kris Kennaway" In-Reply-To: <20070110072838.GA32694@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45A2805E.7060000@ccstores.com> <20070109222558.GA75695@xor.obsecurity.org> <20070110003730.GA94711@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070110073106.89d726a8.coolzone@io.dk> <20070110072838.GA32694@xor.obsecurity.org> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:03:02 -0000 On 1/10/07, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 01:12:46AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > On 1/10/07, Rico Secada wrote: > > >On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:01:51 -0600 > > >"Nikolas Britton" wrote: > > > > > >> > FreeBSD is created and supported by volunteers. > > >> > Seems like you just posted a nice list of things > > >> > for you to get busy and contribute. > > >> > > > >> > > >> I don't have time to contribute work, I have a business to manage as > > >> well as other obligations that come first... I need this stuff to just > > >> work... so I can get real things done. > > > > > >So you need people to work freely, without any pay, to make things work > > >for you, so you can complain when something isn't working like you > > >want it to!? So you can get real things done!? > > > > > >If you have a business to manage, and just need this to work, made by > > >people who contribute for free, maybe its time you start to pay someone!? > > > > > > > Repost: > > I'm more then willing to pay real money to support the sub-projects > > that are of interest to me. I need to see some real progress being > > made in return though. Feel free to start working on any of the > > problems I listed. When you have something to show me I'll send some > > cash. Maybe core needs to make it easier to direct are funds to the > > sub-projects of are choice and still qualify it as a deductible > > expense. > > You know how unconvincing that sounds, right? What successful > projects have you paid the authors for after the fact, in the past? > Ok then. Start with a written plan with measurable goals and milestones. As far as passed sub-projects I've helped fund... not many as it's not tax deductible. And If I send money to the main project (this is tax deductible) I have no control over the distribution of my funds to the people or sub-projects I want to support. It's a no win situation. Solve it and you'll solve your funding problems. How does Linux handle these types of funding issues?