From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 14:24:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37E61065679 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:24:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbbit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D088FC1D for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:24:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so3226996wwf.31 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:24:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+6w5/L3yNnFI4S9KOE9g+i0ZvmMBuyshK/3aBIf4xd4=; b=L613P+Q7t/+Ug/6j/9uPA6PQBvXQzg+OkEnKu5HN5wgP787a17lXcDdsYfc2E8tpX9 ah8CR6WQHeR5tZk/ELA23gBrYQUa/mrsWbIRDgL9dikT911E2rhSkCKbTHEyVorrUxpf lUC/qwqKbgRTqLH3cCB1JrNi6ETeoj4m0TlqE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=BRcL98k96dZeKCKKC2I99f9Pz9hhLAvt0QYcdeNs6woAJ3cakslfVq59H8JS4FFnmo T9d3NpX1b0LfX8ydg2cHgNq4eNbKWRXwZ8EArG/3euQkebbbR5MwTpGoSHOtOzwiaNvj MDTn4Zt/csC7WsK4haiIgwsiCsY8XW1wEL5Pw= Received: by 10.227.151.65 with SMTP id b1mr2702617wbw.163.1296224653658; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:24:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.168.58.223] ([212.183.128.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f35sm12730774wbf.2.2011.01.28.06.24.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:24:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D42D185.9050707@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:24:05 +0000 From: elbbit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101208 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201101281228.p0SCSm1q090264@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201101281228.p0SCSm1q090264@mail.r-bonomi.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:24:16 -0000 On 28/01/11 12:28, Robert Bonomi wrote: Thank you for taking the time to reply Robert. I value your opinion. >>>>> elbbit wrote: >>>>>> I held off writing back because I have just launched a new >>>>>> website at: http://www.tibble.net/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Wait! Don't go! This isn't spam! Please! Just listen! >>>>> Yes, it looks very spammy to me.... >>>> I sent similar emails to other lists and was promptly scalded >>>> for being so uncouth. I thank those who encourage me to stop >>>> spamming for teaching me humility. However, I think the >>>> importance of global self awareness is too important to worry >>>> about whether or not we like to know about the problems. This >>>> is the equivalent of a hit-and-run, in my opinion. I am here >>>> to stay, I am not going anywhere and the world will become >>>> self-aware in my presence. It is why I have been born. >>> >>> You are a delusion dipshit, and a bad liar. >> >>> If you feel so righteous about your cause, why did you hijack >>> another thread without changing the subject? >> With all the respect that is due to you, and all others who >> frequent these mailing lists, I feel the topic of global voting is >> too important to worry about whether or not my particular message >> fits into a defined category. > > And you think it's OK to *STEAL* other people's resources to get > "your" message out, apparently. Hmm. Stealing. Taking without consent. Consent from whom? The network operator? According to the Debian website: "There are many world-open mailing lists, meaning anyone can read everything that is posted, and participate in the discussions. Everyone is encouraged..." - Under the heading Introduction: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ Hmm. I assumed the service was being offered to me. If I am wrong, I would like more people to confirm if Robert is right. > The people who run the mailing lists _pay_ for that equipment and Pay... with money... which is a made up idea... > network connectivity, and provide it to others for a specific use. ...in this case, communication... which we are doing :-) > You _are_ a thief, and as already stated "a bad liar, and a > delusional dipshit." My opinion is that according to the instruction provided to it, your computer did all it can to send me your information. I did not steal it. You gave it to me. You offered, you know - where you make a motion towards me? > Doing what you did is *expressly* against The AUP of your hosting > services provider, Webfusion, Ltd. > Yes. Words. Somehow, it is commonly accepted that just because something is written in words that it is "right." My emails challenge that. > That said, you've _made_ your rules, and now *you8 get to live by > them. I do not understand this statement. Please clarify. > Since _you_ believe it is "OK" to inflict your 'important' message on > those you do not know, and who have _not_ consented to hear it, you > =cannot= object if the 'world' decides to do the same to _you_ and > your mailbox. I agree, with everything that is me. But does this also not apply to you, also? I think you have made an error by joining a "world-open mailing list" if you are unable to tolerate other people's words. > Russian brides, pharmaceutcals, watches, lottery winnings, money > sharing, and whatever else people decide is 'too important' for > _you_ not to be informed of. You see, the people who raise awareness of their product or service are after one thing - to increase the number which is displayed on their ATM machine. I do not want money. I do not promote a service or product. In fact, I promote an IDEA - the notion that we can abandon money altogether. > Annoying people who *run* mail-servers is a _really_ stupid thing to > do. Unfortunately, any one who is part of the growing movement realises that ridicule, torture or even certain death are requirements of changing the world. John F. Kennedy, one of your own president's, paid dearly simply for saying some words. I say some words, and you too, want to kill me. I forgive you for being so misguided. > But, then, you're a spammer. Try not to think of me as someone different. I am someone the same. I have two arms, two legs, two eyes, I breathe air, I eat food, I use the toilet, I have sex - I do all the normal thing you do too. You and I are not as different you think. The only major difference between us all is how we spend our time. Hence, I do not think of people in "groups" or stereotypes. I see that some people choose to learn about the world around them, and others do not. Some people take the word of others to be the absolute truth - because they trust them. Who do you trust? You certainly don't trust me - and with good cause. The idea I suggest (abandoning money) is too big for your brain to comprehend... not because you lack the processing ability to deal with it, but because you refuse to think about a world without money. Try it. You and I are probably never going to meet in all this random stuff which is going on in the world. But just imagine... no money? Working in co-operation? Just like open-source? How about an open-source world, and not just limited to software? Can you imagine that? I know you can, we all can. And some of us already do. > And have just re-proven the validity of Rule #3, and Kruegers > Corrolary thereunto, of the "Rules of Spam". Rules. Laws. All pointless. You see, if a car is travelling a road and it hits another car, the operator of the vehicle is blamed, and then a public outcry occurs. The people standing up saying "this can not be tolerated, something must be done" which is when they turn to someone looking to lead them. Up steps a politician, who takes your authority and says "hmm, yes, we make a rule that all cars must not exceed XX speed." The problem with rules and laws is that they are often ignored. Why don't we just harness technology, using our abilities that we have TODAY to just enable cars to have radar as part of their on board computers to stop collisions occurring? Why don't we do this? Because of the money? What, that made-up-idea again? Please! This is insanity! > see: I removed the "d". Not too sure about the flying kids, looks a bit porno-related to me. Hmm, I think it's biased too. This is just my opinion though. > So, I guess, it's not _all_ that surprising. No, it's not all that surprising that we could have a different world. The solution is that everyone must decide to stop using money and create a better world. Simple. You have to choose to make it better. Don't scared. The fact you include my address does not scare me. I'm not scared of anyone. I am not living in fear (like you) I am living in love - and I have nothing but love for all humans. I love you, and your words, and every one, and if you wonder how this came to be, just start searching Google for yourself. The answers are out there. How are you going to spend your time from now on? With the kindest of regards from, Simon Tibble 74 Park Street Mountain Ash CF45 3YL GREAT BRITAIN EUROPE THE PLANET EARTH THE MILKY WAY THE UNIVERSE ^^^ Don't you see .... we share this planet. Let's work together to make it a better place :-) > > > > > email: simon@tibble.net > > Domain name: TIBBLE.NET > > Registrant: Simon Tibble 74 Park Street Penrhiwceiber Mountain Ash, > Rhondda Cynon Taff CF45 3YL GB 07767650385 Fax: 07767650385 > > Registration Service Provider: services@123-reg.co.uk 08712309525 > > > > -- elbbit