From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 2 04:50:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495B516A4DA for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 04:50:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDCCC43D45 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 04:50:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (wm.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F36291B03; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:50:38 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 79488-03; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 04:50:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB22291AFC; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:50:38 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id 9458A5C451; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:50:38 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931C54AA42; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:50:38 -0300 (ADT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 01:50:38 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Nikolas Britton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060802014844.Y27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <871ws1v261.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060731220830.B27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801120058.O27679@ganymede.hub.org> <17615.30414.314802.792740@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20060801223754.U27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060801230301.Q27679@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Robert Huff , Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:50:41 -0000 On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 8/1/06, User Freebsd wrote: >> On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: >> >> > Ok.. lets start from the top, again. Why do we need uniqueness? >> >> We want to count each host reporting *once* ... without uniqueness per >> host, how are you going to know whether to update a hosts record, instead >> of add it as a new host? >> > > But no matter what you do you can never guaranty a hosts uniqueness... > What you want to do is akin to DRM and there is no way to do this in > the open source world. > > What is wrong with a total host count? If all hosts are reporting in > once per month then whats the problem?... just simple addition: > > DATA: > 6.1-STABLE i386 > 6.0-RELEASE i386 > 6.1-RELEASE-p2 AMD I guess I'm just trying to make it as accurate as possible, and fear someone "fetch bombing" just to artificially increase the #s ... but, then again, if they did do that, even with a unique value, it wouldn't take much to create a random one for that purpose ... So, ya, I guess a unique id would be pretty useless ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664