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[174.109.231.236]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s124sm4296610qke.40.2020.06.18.15.44.45 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 18 Jun 2020 15:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (hp-envy.seibercom.net [192.168.1.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49nxp305Xxz24xD for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 18:44:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 18:44:38 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Update 11.3 > 11.4 Message-ID: <20200618184438.00003f41@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <941386f3-ce71-6cf6-005c-ab9c159ce998@heuristicsystems.com.au> References: <20200617134146.00004ce8@seibercom.net> <20200617165853.000070ca@seibercom.net> <20200617195705.000069f0@seibercom.net> <20200618071456.00004fdd@seibercom.net> <20200618134732.48b4c316.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200618083645.00001afc@seibercom.net> <941386f3-ce71-6cf6-005c-ab9c159ce998@heuristicsystems.com.au> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49nxpS1F75z4BlG X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=Jjbh2eLC; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::82a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.04 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.57)[-0.575]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[174.109.231.236:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.95)[-0.947]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.93)[-0.934]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::82a:from]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,meta]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 22:45:05 -0000 On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 08:19:12 +1000, Dewayne Geraghty commented: >Jerry, > >Aryeh's suggestion of determining the cause of the problem would be >beneficial as the PR >https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=237666 >appears to be caught in a non-reproducability trap. Eg "I have an X on >version Y and no bug" will not allay anyone's concerns. > >Also reply 103 asserts that this problem doesn't exist on 11 (ie prior >to 11.4). Perhaps pulling the iso's for 11.4 and using on a machine >that reproduces the bug with 12.1 might be a more efficient path? It doesn't exist on 11.x at ll. If you read through the comments, etcetera, it was mentioned that it is most likely a regression problem. Regression bugs have a nasty habit of spreading. >Hans is clearly doing his best to address the issue but needs helpful >information from our active community. This bug has existed since at least 2019-04-30 04:22:45 EDT when it was first reported. >Regards, Dewayne