From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 23 15:53:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9389416A726 for ; Tue, 23 May 2006 15:53:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Received: from mx5.roble.com (mx5.roble.com [206.40.34.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A7D43D46 for ; Tue, 23 May 2006 15:53:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 08:53:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Roger Marquis To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20060523120100.37D2B16A54F@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20060523083944.H96736@eboyr.pbz> References: <20060523120100.37D2B16A54F@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: FreeBSD Security Survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 15:53:04 -0000 Peter Jeremy wrote: > One of the major problems with unattended/automatic updating is > that it is hard to filter them. It's hard to make a good case for automatic updates when manual updates are so easy. The main area this could be improved on would be in a daily report, emailed to root, detailing which installed ports are out of date. We do this with a shell script . One issue with identifying out-of-date installed ports is the port-version number. We usually ignore port-version-only updates because it's difficult to tell what was changed and few changes aren't detailed in /usr/ports/UPDATING. Another issue has to do with policy regarding -release, -rc, -alpha versioning. Too many ports maintainers think nothing of using -pre-release versions that are usually not appropriate on -release systems. All that said FreeBSD's ports are still the reference implementation, head-and-shoulders better than up2date, yum, rpm, apt-get, or anything else out there. -- Roger Marquis Roble Systems Consulting http://www.roble.com/