From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 13:23:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9D816A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:23:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EA743D46 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:23:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0IDNfG33220; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:23:41 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:23:41 -0600 From: John To: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> Message-ID: <20050118072341.A33032@starfire.mn.org> References: <200501112100.10680.imoore@picknowl.com.au> <20050117124900.B28640@starfire.mn.org> <20050117180915.B30253@starfire.mn.org> <200501180726.16836.4711@chello.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200501180726.16836.4711@chello.at>; from 4711@chello.at on Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 07:26:16AM +0100 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd problems since upgrading to 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:23:46 -0000 On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 07:26:16AM +0100, Christian Hiris wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tuesday 18 January 2005 01:09, John wrote: > > > This is what goes into the log: > > Jan 17 18:04:29 pearl ntpd[838]: ntpd 4.2.0-a Sun Jan 9 10:58:59 CST 2005 > > (1) Jan 17 18:04:29 pearl ntpd[838]: bind() fd 7, family 2, port 123, addr > > 0.0.0.0,in_classd=0 flags=8 fails: Address already in use > > I can reproduce this, it only happens if you try start more than one > ntp-daemons on the same interfaces. Better start this via rc. > > # killall ntpd > # /etc/rc.d/ntpd start > Starting ntpd. > # /etc/rc.d/ntpd start > ntpd already running? (pid=68961). > # /etc/rc.d/ntpd stop > Stopping ntpd. Thank you, Christian, but I have confirmed that ntp is not running before the attempt that generates that message. # ps ax | grep ntp # killall ntpd No matching processes were found # ntpdc -c peers ntpdc: read: Connection refused So, I think we can be pretty sure at this point that ntpd is NOT running. Then.. I can't use the script to start ntp, because the config parameters are to not start it, so # ntpd Boom! I immediately get the error message that I gave above! If it were already running, I could understand, but my point is that I've been pretty thorough in determining that it is my first attempt to run it that gets this error message. I have also tried running "ntpdate" before starting ntpd, or not doing it. If I do it, it works correctly, indicating that ntpd is not running, becuase ntpdate will fail if ntpd is running. I have also NOT run ntpdate first (after a reboot) just to prove to myself that there's nothing "residual" it could leave that would make ntpd complain about this. It's very puzzling! -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG