From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 15 22:43:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA14421 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:43:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles312.castles.com [208.214.167.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA14412 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:43:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00764; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:47:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199810160547.WAA00764@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" cc: Mike Smith , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Karl Pielorz , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: R-Day, 15th October, 1998 (BST or similar ;-) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:39:59 CDT." <3.0.3.32.19981014233959.010725dc@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:47:26 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > At 07:08 PM 10/14/98 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > >Actually, Jordan's load is currently split between testing (where most > >of my effort right now is) and trying to have something ready for the > >Alpha at about the same time. > > Alpha? It looks like there will be a snapshot of FreeBSD/Alpha at about the 3.0-RELEASE level, out at about the same time. I don't think it will be described as RELEASE quality (we're not a Linux vendor after all). > >To the very best of my knowledge, it will not be sprung on the > >unsuspecting 3.0 release. Instead, it will probably be turned on as the > >default a couple of weeks after the release, so that people tracking 3.0 > >will transition, but those using 3.0 flat will not. > > OK, I'm still a bit unclear. There have been dozens of messages concerning > the loader et all w/wo an ELF kernel. > > So, for 3.0 will sysinstall install the new loader and boot blocks _or_ > will this have to be done manually. The new loader will be installed. The new boot blocks will be available, but will not be installed. The new loader will not be *used* by default. > Further will 'make world'/'make buildworld' automagically install the new > load on 3.0 if the sysinstall does not? Yes. > And then all hell breaks loose after the freeze. 8-O The principal goals for the next few months will be to complete the current development push and stabilise the existing feature set. We'll branch before 3.0.5 or whatever it's called in February or so, at which point aggressive development will move to the 3.1 branch and the -stable tag will transition to the 3.0.x branch. As Jordan has already expounded, the 3.0-RELEASE is meant to put the mostly-complete current feature set out to a wider audience; to get it used in real-world conditions and on the radar screens of commercial vendors, etc. It holds much of the shape of things to come in many ways, even though it is in and of itself not a complete thing. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message