From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 21 02:00:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D21A131 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 02:00:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@speakeasy.net) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545A220BC for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 02:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.42]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B457C1EE4FA5 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 21:42:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28441 invoked from network); 21 Oct 2013 01:42:26 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 95, pid: 19475, t: 0.2022s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from s6.stradamotorsports.com (HELO w16.stradamotorsports.com) (jcw@[64.81.163.124]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 21 Oct 2013 01:42:26 -0000 Message-ID: <52648681.1090109@speakeasy.net> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 18:42:25 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130812 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: SVN RELEASE_9_2_0 References: <524A0FE5.6010808@speakeasy.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on mail3.sea5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=8.0 tests=RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD autolearn=disabled version=3.0.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 02:00:03 -0000 Today I tripped over another package that had broken dependencies even thought It was supposedly a package that was from 9.2-RELEASE release process. It was celestia, installed from 9.2-release packages, which depended on libpangox.so.1. I tried to roll my own. The build was broken too. My question still stands. Is FreeBSD now building packages prior to the actual tagging of the ports tree as RELEASE_9_2_0? It seems like this is the case since the dates of the packages in the FTP archive pre-date the release date. For many many releases now I have run only unmodified -release with the equivalent ports. And it was good. Now I'm having issues with the quality of the ports. I am concerned that it is due to a failure in the release process. I might be wrong. If I'm not, then my request is to not put the cart before the horse and ship ports labelled in the FTP archive as -release when they are really just a snapshot of a point in time close the release date. That's very unFreeBSD like. i.e.: freeze it build it fix it build it no errors? no changes? tag it ship it It seems like we skipped freeze it, fix it, and check for errors. We just built it and shipped it, then later we tagged it for release. Or maybe we never did the above and I personally just got lucky for 4 major versions. I do seem to recall things like "ports freeze" on the RE schedule. Regards, Jason C. Wells