From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 28 16:42:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27151 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:42:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27079 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:42:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul7.u.washington.edu (root@saul7.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.2]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA21326; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:42:13 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul7.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA25526; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:32:01 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu To: Frank Pawlak cc: "Jason C. Wells" , Gary Kline , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does it's true? In-Reply-To: <980628232217.ZM939@darkstar.connect.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Frank Pawlak wrote: *** snipped a bunch about weapons and design *** >turned into hamburger on the spot. This is strictly an assault weapon, that >does not belong in the hands of any civilains for any reason, just by nature of >design. I did not comment on the design of firearms but I do know the difference between semi and fully automatic. You will see other comments in this thread that I make about semiauto weapons. I agree totally. I am in complete agreement with the Federal Firearms act of 1934 which prohibits the ownership of fully automatic weapons and other weapons of mass destruction. On the causes of crime and the effect punishment has there can be much debate because it is such an obtuse subject. I might in turn argue that Saudi Arabia has a low crime because of it's terrible punishments. I might argue that Switerzland has low crime because everyone is armed. I think such comparisons must be considered carefully. The US is not Switzerland or Saudi Arabia. This still leaves us with how to end murderousness in the US. I do not think the death penalty will achieve this. Nor do I propose to abolish the death penalty. What I do believe is that mutual repsect for fellow citizens and for the law can reduce murderousness. How I would achieve this respect is difficult, but it includes a huge dose of education. Perhaps I have strayed from the "gun" issue here, but I think this statement follows from my fundamental position of "human" responsibilty. I don't believe in the "gun" problem but I do believe in the "human" problem. If we can "fix" the human condition then perhaps we may have peace. Catchya Later, | UW Mechanical Engineering Jason Wells | http://weber.u.washington.edu/~jcwells/ | 206-633-5994 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message