From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 14:45:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D5EEC87 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 14:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EAAB2885 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 14:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-64-166.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.64.166]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22C4E27616; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 16:45:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s5LEjG2q007234; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 16:45:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 16:45:16 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Mayuresh Kathe Subject: Re: freebsd on a laptop : only console use Message-Id: <20140621164516.bcdc0306.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20140621142655.GA1094@h61.kathe.in> References: <20140621131504.GA895@h61.kathe.in> <20140621153727.e8469ee2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140621135301.GA982@h61.kathe.in> <20140621160542.d5aa979c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20140621142655.GA1094@h61.kathe.in> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 14:45:19 -0000 On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 19:56:55 +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 04:05:42PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Jun 2014 19:23:02 +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > > > > is freebsd ready for laptops? > > > > > > > > Depends on the particular laptop. :-) > > > > > > yeah, i'm really worried about support. > > > maybe i should just give up the thought of going for a laptop. > > > > No, just don't pick the newest and shiniest thing you can > > imagine. > > yes, that would be a wise approach. > but, then again, the vendors out here, believe in selling *only* > the newest and shiniest stuff. :( Luckily, you can still buy used and refurbished devices which will sometimes work much better. Or if you can verify that a laptop is compatible, even some new laptops will work - after that, you can buy it. Some vendors are still interested in selling devices to a wide range of customers, and they therefore care about compatibility. With "modern" laptops, this is a problem, especially those with "Restricted Boot" and mangled UEFIs. Many new wireless parts also have problems. :-( That being said, _I_ felt much happier using used business (!) laptops which I could acquire for few money, and all the componentes were well documented and supported. And if the builtin wireless doesn't work, there's still the option to use a PCCARD or USB based extension. Yes, that doesn't sound "right", but it solves the problem. I have learned to buy things that _work_ as _I_ wish, and being able to test them _before_ putting the money on the counter is a big advantage. I know that this is not always possible, but as long as you exercise your right of choice, you have the chance to get an _excellent_ device for a low price which will maybe last even longer as some of today's cheap throw-away crap... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...