From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 22 15:28:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B762616A4CE; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:28:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from khavrinen.csail.mit.edu (khavrinen.csail.mit.edu [128.30.28.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520F843D55; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:28:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu) Received: from khavrinen.csail.mit.edu (localhost.csail.mit.edu [127.0.0.1]) j3MFSFc5062091 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK CN=khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu issuer=SSL+20Client+20CA); Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:28:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.csail.mit.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j3MFSFv5062088; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:28:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) From: Garrett Wollman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17001.6159.521697.442481@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:28:15 -0400 To: Brian Fundakowski Feldman In-Reply-To: <20050422150835.GM1157@green.homeunix.org> References: <20050419160900.GB12287@stack.nl> <20050419161616.GF1157@green.homeunix.org> <20050419204723.GG1157@green.homeunix.org> <20050420140409.GA77731@stack.nl> <20050420142448.GH1157@green.homeunix.org> <20050420143842.GB77731@stack.nl> <20050420152038.GI1157@green.homeunix.org> <20050420153528.GC77731@stack.nl> <20050420155233.GJ1157@green.homeunix.org> <16998.37222.529748.205885@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <20050422150835.GM1157@green.homeunix.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 17) "Jumbo Shrimp" XEmacs Lucid X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (khavrinen.csail.mit.edu [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 22 Apr 2005 11:28:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.83/848/Thu Apr 21 15:37:33 2005 on khavrinen.csail.mit.edu X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on khavrinen.csail.mit.edu X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:58:07 +0000 cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS client/buffer cache deadlock X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:28:20 -0000 < said: > Can you find any evidence that it's acceptable to interleave multiple > writers that are doing O_APPEND? At best, to do what you're asking, > they could be kept from being interleaved from the context of one > specific NFS client host... As far as POSIX goes, the standard says that applications are expected to handle serialization. It makes no exception for O_APPEND. -GAWollman