From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 23 07:18:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6C076E4 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 07:18:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net (114.179.70.115.static.exetel.com.au [115.70.179.114]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DAFC25FF for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 07:18:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pandora.internal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5566133CFB; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 15:18:48 +0800 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at calorieking.com Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net ([127.0.0.1]) by pandora.internal (pandora.internal [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7TeRAWW2W5Xt; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 15:18:36 +0800 (WST) Received: from egeria.internal (egeria.internal [192.168.2.111]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 04F3B33CF9; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 15:18:36 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <53A7D4CB.1020606@calorieking.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 15:18:35 +0800 From: Gregory Orange User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Victor Sudakov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: binary upgrade of a remote box References: <20140620122400.GA26444@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> In-Reply-To: <20140620122400.GA26444@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 07:18:51 -0000 Hi Victor et al, I am fascinated by what you've said, because noone near me uses FreeBSD, and because I've built up how I administer it in one noticeably different way to you. On 20/06/14 20:24, Victor Sudakov wrote: > I am comfortable with the "make world" method and have done this > remotely before, but those boxes are too weak to compile their own > world, and the disks are too small. Mounting /usr/{src,obj} from a > remote host is not an option because of relatively slow and unreliable > WAN links. I have never done any of this, and as such certainly couldn't say I feel comfortable with it... > I am very uncomfortable with "freebsd-update upgrade", at least it's > not something I would risk remotely. whereas I do this regularly. I use 'freebsd-update cron' every night for update checks, and have recently embarked on upgrading a fleet of 8.3 machines to 8.4 using 'freebsd-update -r 8.4-RELEASE upgrade', with flawless results so far. So, my question. Is one of the above (make world or freebsd-update) considered by the community to be safer, more standard, or recommended? Cheers, Greg.