From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 1 04:40:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C49C1065670 for ; Sat, 1 May 2010 04:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E7D8FC12 for ; Sat, 1 May 2010 04:40:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.3] ([202.69.173.106]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:40:26 -0700 Message-ID: <4BDBB0B7.4080609@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 12:40:23 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4BD97BAF.8080002@a1poweruser.com> <4BDA4EF5.7050703@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <4BDA4EF5.7050703@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2010 04:40:27.0249 (UTC) FILETIME=[6BD26E10:01CAE8E8] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: Re: How To create msdosfs on HD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 04:40:27 -0000 Fbsd1 wrote: >>> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 09:29:35 -0300, Fbsd1 wrote: >>> >>>> I know mount_msdosfs command is used to mount a HD formated with >>>> fat, but >>>> I could not find a FBSD command to create a msdos file system on a hard >>>> drive. Native dos fdisk/format is no good because it's not USB >>>> aware. Is >>>> there any FBSD command or port I can use to reformat the UFS hard >>>> drive with >>>> msdosfs? >>> >> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=512k count=10 >> fdisk -i /dev/da0 >> newfs_msdos -F32 /dev/da0s1 >> > > Thank you very much. > Thats the answer I was hoping for. > > > > For the archives here is a detailed explanation. Create MS/Windows file system on a Hard Drive so it will be recognized on an MS/Windows system. The goal here is to initialize a hard drive that was previous initialized with a non-Microsoft Windows file system, with a single active partition populated with Microsoft Windows 32 bit FAT (LBA) file system. So this hard drive will be recognized as containing a valid MS/Windows file system when used on a Microsoft Windows system. I have an old IDE 3.5” hard drive with FBSD Release 7.0 on it. I want to use it as external USB attached disk on XP. I bought a 'CD-r king' hard drive to USB adapter cable. It will work with 2.5” & 3.5” IDE drives and SATA drives. When I plug the USB end of the cable into a FBSD system I can mount the 3.5” IDE 7.0 HD's da0s1a, da0s1d, da0s1e and da0s1f file systems with no problem. But when I plug the same drive into a XP system the USB drive shows in “control panel/system/hardware/devices/hard drives” as there, but “windows explorer” does not assign a drive letter for it so I can not reformat it. All PC’s running a MS/Windows system inspect sector 0 of the hard drive for the partition/slice table to determine the sysid of each partition/slice. If the sysid value is 12 then it’s a valid Microsoft Windows file system and gets assigned a drive letter in “windows explorer”. Any other sysid value means non-Microsoft Windows file system and the device is seen in “control panel/system/hardware/devices/hard drives” as there but “windows explorer” does not assign a drive letter to it. There are 2 ways to initialize ((2.5” or 3.5”) (IDE or SATA)) hard drives with a valid MS/Windows file system. Using the Microsoft “fdisk” program or the FreeBSD “fdisk” program. The Microsoft “fdisk” program defaults to sysid =12. The FreeBSD “fdisk” program defaults to sysid = 165, but has alternate way to assign any sysid value you want. Microsoft method. Replace the 2.5” hard drive in your laptop with the 2.5” hard drive containing the FreeBSD system. If 3.5” hard drive then open your desktop PC, remove the data cable ribbon and power connection from the existing hard drive and attach them to the 3.5” hard drive containing the FreeBSD system. Put the Microsoft XP, Vista, or Windows7 install CD in the cdrom drive and boot. Select fdisk option from the install menu to populate the hard drive with official ntfs file system. No need to continue with the install after fdisk complete. FreeBSD method. You need a PC with a running FreeBSD system and USB hardware to attach the 2.5” or 3.5” IDE or SATA hard drives with. A USB external hard drive housing will work fine for 3.5” IDE and SATA drives. For 2.5” IDE or SATA drives you will need a USB adapter cable. The 'CD-r king' hard drive to USB cable I purchased works with 2.5” & 3.5” IDE drives and SATA drives, cost $10 USA. If you have a 3.5” IDE or SATA hard drive and FreeBSD is running on a desktop PC, you could open it up and add it as a second hard drive on the data ribbon. Attach the hard drive to the USB equipment and plug into USB port on the PC running FreeBSD. Best if you are logged in as “root”. You will see the USB console messages as the USB hard drive is connected. In most cases the USB drive will be assigned da0 as the device name. The following instructions are for initializing the hard drive as a single MS/Windows partition occupying the whole hard drive. Wipe clean the sector 0 slice table # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 count=2 The following is what you would do if the initialized msdosfs hard drive will only be used on a FreeBSD system. The slice table is populated with the sysid of 165, which means FreeBSD is using this slice, but the slice contains a MSDOS FAT32 file system. The newfs_msdos command is really acting like the msdos format command. The larger your hard drive the longer this command will take to complete. #fdisk -BI /dev/da0 #newfs_msdos -F32 /dev/da0s1 This creates the sector 0 slice table and loads the default bios boot code and activates a single slice covering the entire disk. If at this point you un-plugged the USB cable from the FreeBSD system and plugged it into a Microsoft Windows PC. The USB drive would be un-accessible by “windows explorer” because no drive letter gets assigned. That’s because Window’s see this hard drive as a non-windows drive. Which is really true because the slice sysid contains the 165 value. To make the hard drive accessible to a Microsoft Windows PC, the sysid has to be set to a value of 12. This time use the fdisk flag lower case “i” which clears all existing slice entries and puts you in interactive slice table update mode. # fdisk -Bi /dev/da0 Select default “n” for everything except for the following prompts. (Changing partition1 which you answer “y”. When prompt ( Supply a decimal value for "sysid (165=FreeBSD)" [165] ) enter the value of 12. Then at prompt (Are we happy with this entry? [n] ) enter value of y for yes. And at the end you get prompt (Should we write new partition table? [n] ) enter value y for yes. #fdisk /dev/da0 Will now show that partition 1 is marked active and has sysid or 12 for (DOS or Windows 95 with 32 bit FAT (LBA)) # newfs_msdos -F32 /dev/da0s1 Will format the slice 1 partition for MSDOS file system. Elapse running time is dependent on hard disk size. If at this point you un-plugged the USB cable from the FreeBSD system and plugged it into a Microsoft Windows PC. The USB drive would be accessible by “windows explorer” because a drive letter gets auto-assigned. That’s because Window’s now sees this hard drive as a windows drive. Which is really true because the slice sysid contains the 12 value.