From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 1 22:01:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D24C16A401 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 22:01:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327A113C4B2 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 22:01:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn05.u.washington.edu (hymn05.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.184]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l11M1DgX016158 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 14:01:13 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn05.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l11M1Dph025602 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 14:01:13 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.1] by hymn05.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:01:13 PST Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 14:01:13 -0800 (PST) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <013801c74601$2bbd0cf0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.2.1.134933 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='SUPERLONG_LINE 0.05, NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CP_MEDIA_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: FreeBSD Torrent Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 22:01:14 -0000 On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeremy Faulkner" > To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" > Cc: "Eric Hildebrandt" ; > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:34 PM > Subject: Re: FreeBSD Torrent Server > > >> On 1/31/07, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> >>> Why? >>> >>> FreeBSD isn't commercial software, there's no need to go through >>> all the hocus pocus to conceal the uploader so the RIAA doesen't >>> sue him. Standard FTP works perfectly fine at any of the mirror sites, >>> and you will get your ISO no slower. >>> >>> Ted >> >> Bittorrent does nothing to conceal the uploader's identity. >> >> The RIAA (Recording Industry Association of Amarica) doesn't give a >> damn about the piracy of commercial software, the RIAA cares about the >> piracy of music distributed by their member companies. The >> RIAA exists to be the bully for their member companies and to draw the >> negative public relations away from those member companies. >> > > Which is exactly why I cannot understand why anyone would want to > use bittorrent to legitimately distribute anything. Why use a service that > the RIAA is actively attacking, because such service is being used to > illegally distribute pirated music? Uhm, the RIAA / MPAA would be retards to track this sort of information--it only would reduce their efficiency. Thinking that torrents are being used solely to transmit illegal data is a misnomer and incorrect train of thought. There are a number of opensource projects that use torrents to distribute data, just because it exists and it's another means to distributing the data's end. > It's called guilt by association. No. That's your take on the situation and other group's take on the situation, which isn't always correct. > The FreeBSD Beastie was struck from his position as logo for FreeBSD > for some EXTREMELY minor controversy surrounding religions icons. > Well, using a Devil image didn't pirate anyone software or break a law. > Yet Beastie was axed for exactly the same "guilt by association" reasons. That's a different can of worms--the BSD symbol is religious symbolism vs whereas torrents and soft "ware" licenses are ethical issues. > It seems to be EXTREMELY hipocritical to on one hand, strike out Beastie > for some morons based on a guilt by association reason, then on the other > hand turn a blind eye to the guilt by association of using a service, > bittorrent, > that is extremely heavily used for distribution of pirated software and > music, > to distribute FreeBSD. Read above comments. -Garrett