From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Mar 26 3:29:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from iquest3.iquest.net (iquest3.iquest.net [209.43.20.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 53A3E14D5B for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 03:29:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (qmail 17675 invoked from network); 26 Mar 1999 11:29:34 -0000 Received: from dyson.iquest.net (198.70.144.127) by iquest3.iquest.net with SMTP; 26 Mar 1999 11:29:34 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA08569; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 06:29:33 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199903261129.GAA08569@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Linux vs. FreeBSD: The Storage Wars In-Reply-To: from "unknown@riverstyx.net" at "Mar 26, 99 02:45:08 am" To: unknown@riverstyx.net Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 06:29:33 -0500 (EST) Cc: dyson@iquest.net, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > > IMO, it is *silly* that Linux doesn't support large files correctly. If > > it doesn't support large files on an X86, then it doesn't support large > > files. There was alot of pressure from the user and developer base when > > FreeBSD didn't properly support large files, and I am surprised that > > either the Linux base hasn't pressured for proper support for large files, > > or the Linux developers can't figure out how to do it. (I sure hope that > > it isn't arrogance on their part that it isn't "needed.") > > Don't be intentionally ignorant. As I stated above, there are patches. > Logically, one might take that to mean that Linux developers can indeed > figure out how to do it. Fanaticism is soooo irritating. > Well, why isn't it in the distribution? Why has it taken soooo long? The key is that I listened to the user base, and did some seriously grungy programming. There was little elitism, but simply to do what was needed. Of course, they know how to do it :-), and of course the user base has wanted it (look at the mailing lists/netnews over the last several years.) The humor is in the attitude that has kept the right thing from happening. Fanaticism with regards to using an OS whose developers won't do what is needed is also irritating. Maybe they are now coming aware with real applications being used now. FreeBSD users exposed the issue almost right away, and therefore the problem had to be fixed. There was no choice, and no arrogance. FreeBSD (in general) should be proud about the consideration that the developers had given to the user base. From that viewpoint, it is not bad that the developers should feel happy about the long term decisions made, and FreeBSD development being mired in short term expediency. In fact, the FreeBSD solution has been being discussed on the Linux mailing lists, and wonder if they looked at what we did? It is much easier to copy a design, than to actually think... It seems that fanaticism is where an inferior decision is being made, whilst a correct solution already exists :-). A little verbal sparring is nowhere near the insanity of wasting effort with reimplementation. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message