From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 24 10:40:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from everest.wananchi.com (everest.wananchi.com [62.8.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8CD37B405 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 10:40:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wash@wananchi.com) Received: from wash by everest.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.31 #5) id 15P6Aa-000GfH-00; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 20:40:32 +0300 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 20:40:32 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: make world from across the globe Message-ID: <20010724204032.D90847@everest.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5p8PegU4iirBW1oA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 8:32PM up 4 days, 2:54, 1 user, load averages: 0.18, 0.12, 0.18 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --5p8PegU4iirBW1oA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Kevin Golding [20010724 20:24]: writing on th= e subject 'make world from across the globe' Kevin> I'm planning an upgrade from 4.2 -> 4.3 release but there's a couple= of Kevin> things I'm a bit uncertain about. Kevin>=20 Kevin> The problem is that I have no direct access to the machine in questi= on, Kevin> I usually just connect with ssh and for day to day stuff that serves= me Kevin> just fine, but from the stuff I've read about upgrades I should drop Kevin> down to single user mode for the final stages like make installworld. Kevin>=20 Kevin> Now to my knowledge this makes remote logins a problem. Kevin>=20 Kevin> I've thought about setting /etc/ttys to insecure and then just dropp= ing Kevin> down but I'm not exactly confident that'll work. Kevin>=20 Kevin> I've also read on.demon.co.uk/FreeBSD/make-world/make-world.html > which looks like= I Kevin> might be able to avoid dropping to single user if I'm *very* careful, Kevin> prepared and desperate. Kevin>=20 Kevin> I'm therefore hoping someone can point me in the direction of either= i) Kevin> a way to login across the Internet or ii) a way to do a source upgra= de Kevin> without dropping to single user Hi Kevin, I do upgrades on a daily basis on 5 servers while logged in remotely, and these are our main production servers. The single user mode issue(I think) was meant for those slow machines without enough processing power, because then the server services are not running. With fast boxes I think that step is unnecessary. I do upgrades here while the servers are running (http, Proxy, POP, SMTP, radius...name them) and my only concern ever has been when I have to reboot so that I have a kernel in sync with userland. That is normally after the mergemaster stuff - but I always do it because it takes me 5 minutes MAX to reboot. What I do: cvsup make world (I don't split it into buildworld/installworld) make kernel mergemaster reboot I think the only concern would be if the box failed to boot back into server mode because of a little error but you can have some dumb guy at the other end help you do things by you shouting commands on the phone. I've never been that unlucky though. The tricky part is mergemaster. PS: I stand corrected though. -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Wananchi Online Ltd., wash@wananchi.com 1st Flr Loita Hse. Tel: 254 2 313985 Loita Street., Fax: 254 2 313922 PO Box 10286,00100-NAIROBI,KE. The USA is so enormous, and so numerous are its schools, colleges and=20 religious seminaries, many devoted to special religious beliefs ranging fro= m=20 the unorthodox to the dotty, that we can hardly wonder at its yielding a mo= re=20 bounteous harvest of gobbledegook than the rest of the world put together.= =20 -Sir Peter Medawar=20 --5p8PegU4iirBW1oA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7XbMQn7LIsuxjem8RAuXDAJ46ROuCzzkl3yXddj9Zpa9dS9Xp5QCbBHll eCU4C/orNa+PmZzJZdV80as= =GRIe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5p8PegU4iirBW1oA-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message