From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 27 16:04:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A931065697 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4978FC17 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:04:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so2803935ewy.19 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:04:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EDB85WS9mrmCTaA1BEjHPxdri32IkzN1wLU+ljC7sGQ=; b=D355LM1fBKZlzvsHCfwmJq35lE2+dbbiYVfSyFEz/KNGe74XrezyIOW5sgEpYEcNr6 4lNRIjC07V4507vKeTTYwDfCE+7SIursJK2P1/noILlUrg1j2swK+b46UNakYY0H3hzz TQun9AWFctUXx5SYrNZ1+UtfGWnSuJWVWqbXI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PMVV6Jie6vdPmD2I+fqLv7D6wxjIMUrgZpj8omx2WlwycDLMF3ie2r3KalLJZt8CDJ KLvq5C25ABSl6ce+U7Xa8p9bf6RLrbfSdukpu1N9vruaiJsszGy5tYutzrCULPSnVkyv fJ7CUfWyqTRlxIYGRd5B0yKjFReKub016esEE= Received: by 10.210.28.4 with SMTP id b4mr1962798ebb.120.1233072279372; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:04:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z40sm31068454ikz.13.2009.01.27.08.04.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:04:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:04:34 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090127160434.74f04bef@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090126150019.387d538b.freebsd@edvax.de> <92bcbda50901260702h503648b6gc5c17b1ae9f211e@mail.gmail.com> <200901270831.24856.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <1233039375.1202.24.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:04:43 -0000 On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:56:15 +1000 Da Rock wrote: > I'm also ashamed that they released it in a hurry to compete in this > condition to a very sceptical Window$ crowd. People have to use KDE4 in significant numbers for it to mature. The real problem was not that they released it, but that Linux distributions rushed to make it the default version, or in some cases the only version, in their packaging systems. From what I've read, many people in the KDE4 project were not happy about this. If most distributions had either followed the Debian approach of keeping KDE3 as the default, or the FreeBSD approach of leaving it up to the user there wouldn't have been such a problem. One of the worst aspect of OSS is the pervasive attitude that software is either bleeding-edge, or it's obsolete. BTW, I don't think it's really fair to suggest that KDE4 is trying to ape Vista, it looks to me as if the've both just borrowed a lot from OS-X, A lot of the other stuff in KDE4, has been under development for a long-time.